Volkarin's Séance EditionFor all things Dragon Age.>Waifu pollhttps://strawpoll.com/LVyK21DKOZ0>post-Veilguard Solas pollhttps://strawpoll.com/XOgOV89Gon3>what DA games have you playedhttps://strawpoll.com/XmZRQDjAwgd>dagna booruhttp://dagna.booru.org/index.phpPrevious age: >>506691507
>>506949556Qunari anon how do you feel about VG's portrayal of the qunari
First for homo solavellan
CAN WOLF WAG TAIL? PLEASE EXPLAIN
The Maker will watch over you regardless of your cooperation. Bring the Light.
>>506949887get out stinky fujo
Solavellan supremacy Solavellan superiority
I believe in this thread. In all of us. So let’s get it done.
>>506950080>in reality, not a single fresco of quizzy was ever drawn
>>506949784Absolute disgust. Same goes with a lot of other things about this game. Resulting in utter wasted potential in its prior worldbuilding.
>>506950221where titties
>>506950303real and trve
>>506950223Buon fresco is not "drawn" you dope. But anyway as far as we know that's correct. It's a shame.
Wait a minute, what happened to Genlocks and Shrieks in Veilguard?
Are Titans just an allegory for dinosaurs? >Humans/elves can't develop society while they live>Exterminated by single cataclysmic event>Elves/humans use their blood to power up their bodies/mages/machinesNow this just makes it even lamer.
>>506950702replaced by improved darkspawn born from ground zists sweaty
>>506950702They made 3 enemy types and 300 reskins of them, what more do you want you greedy gamer?
>>506949986you think a solasfag would know wolves at least
>>506950702I noticed there's no Revenants either. The mob types that have a draw-in move, not those minibosses.
>>506951175They only know wolves from their suits.
>>506950964>>506951024If Ghil can just create darkspawn out of zits, then why not just mass produce ogres instead of the crappier darkspawn?
>>506951623diversity is their strength
>>506951623I do not want to fight 10 ogres at once
>>506952159But why doesn't Ghil want you to fight 10 at once?
>>506949986
>>506949627>Nah people get mad when the book is absolutely nothing like the movie lol.I watched the movie first then got into the books and thought the books were generally fairly good.There is also an anime that more accurate to the books.>>506950440>I'm too old for forgotten realms/Dragonlance/adjacent books, it's just slop to meHonestly?Thats a perception problem.There is very high chance that I am actually older than you and as I said before, I really enjoy pulp-fantasy because thats where a lot of roots for contemporary fantasy and video games lie.And here is another secret that zommers dont seem to get: You are allowed to like bad things.Personally I love the Drizzt-Books. Are the literary masterpieces? Of course not, they have lots of flaws but that doesn't stop me from enjoying them.I think the most important part is not to pretend that something is good/bad just because you like/dislike it. Dragon Age as a whole for example isnt good. But there are many parts of it that I like and find interesting and which suck me into the world.>already read the first book, it was fine, started the secondThats great!>and it became slop quicklyEeeeeeeeehhh?!>while I admit sci-fi is plagued by crap as well, there's still some things in there that are interesting to me like Blindsight, Greg Egan, EEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!?>the chink three body problem books...noooooooooooooooI thought it was so bad and overrated. I felt like Ive read multiple stories in the same vein in older scifi omnibuses and it felt like it was borrowing heavily from shortstories by Arthur C.Clarke
>>506952612namefag said he has a high paying job btw
>>506952867With a mere 11k bonus?
>>506953190how else are you gonna dab on anons
>>506953305With an actual sum, not change.
>>506951189>But generally I feel like nowadays people have a weird approach to lore where they feel they need to know every tidbit to understand the setting which isnt really necessary.My problem isn't with having to know every single bit of the lore, in fact I've never read all of the DA books for instance as I like keeping things just a little unfinished so that they keep a certain mystique for me, but that may just be my autism. My problem is with endless expansive self-contradictory lore written by dozens of authors over decades and decades, it's all so disjointed and it makes it impossible to create a living, breathing world that stands on its own legs if you're a simple casual who isn't getting into everything. DA does it best because it's a mix of continent-spanning epic narratives like DAO and self-contained, short story-esque single episodes like DA2. What I'm getting at is that I want the world to feel big but cohesive.>What do you want to know?Basically what I'm missing is some basic explanation about the world, like what is the history behind the different races and their beliefs/conflicts/prejudices, like what are the gith and the tieflings etc. I'm actually having a fun time not looking up anything, it gives me the same feeling as playing games blind before internet access and online culture was ubiquitous. >The Hugos and GRRM had a hand in killing contemporary fantasy and soreading "weird-fantasy" which has this weird seething hatred for anything Tolkien or inspired by Tolkien. It's actually fascinating to read all of these old books and realize that we're living in a kind of fantasy dark ages completely irony poisoned and devoid of any earnestness. The Witcher adaptation allegedly suffers from this, as the showrunners hate the books and the games, haven't read or played them and made mentioning TW3 on set was taboo. Why does everyone trying to make fantasy seem to hate fantasy? >hating Octavia ButlerSlanderous.
>>506952635>you are allowed to like bad things I know and I do like bad things, in fact I quite like the Menzoberranzan drizzt trilogy, however I physically can't enjoy 99% of those kinds of books. I think it's because they're meant for male adolescents. I'm better off enjoying some crappy high school shojo manga.Dragon Age and BG3 have the benefit of being an interactive medium and the same rules don't apply at least in my case. I'm able to immerse myself and ignore the bad aspects (up until veilguard, that is).>sci fiI read sci fi for the speculative aspect. Even if Egan or the chink are not the most classically skilled writers, the ideas they handle are interesting enough to me to make me enjoy their books. In Dune for example, and so far the Expanse first book as well, the sci fi component is just scenery. It's fantasy in space and I can only judge those kinds of books by the strength of the writing, plot and characters.
/dag/ book club
>>506955023The one Rook isn't invited to...
>>506952867bullshit job*
>>506955154Rook can't read ok
The best medieval fantasy out there is actually a 16th century epic poem okay
>>506952867what does >namefag have to do with anything? I was literally answering to an anonymous post retard. seek help for your obsessive fixation with a random solavellan from a mongolian basket weaving forum
>>506956104retard he's the one who asked if wolves wagged their tails
>>506956281ask her number already and shut the fuck up
>>506956560Please get his discord account >>506892372
>>506956281>he
>>506955413
Going to bed /dag/. I will keep the general alive during euro hours. Don't kill it while I'm gone
Please kill /dag/ already
>>506958845And then what?
>>506957924I think the mabari is smarter than Rook
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/yDd698>Before deciding to head to Weishaupt, this image explored a beleaguered stockade on the outer reaches of the Anderfels. This is also the very first image where we explored the idea of the griffons officially returning.>The second image is the first sketch of Weisshaupt fortress.>Nobody else seemed to like the "leper king" direction, but I thought it'd be cool.>The Hero of Ferelden has been putting off "The Calling". The Blight takes more each year, but there's still too much to do on the surface.
>>506954448>in fact I've never read all of the DA books for instanceI gave up a few pages into the Empress book.It was too schlocky even for me.Stolen Throne was meh.The Calling was okay-ish.>My problem is with endless expansive self-contradictory lore written by dozens of authors over decades and decades, it's all so disjointed and it makes it impossible to create a living, breathing world that stands on its own legsWell.. I regret to inform that this is indeed related to your autism.I have had the same issue with FR-Lore and then just stopped reading up on the lore past 3rd Edition.AD&D-Timeline for FR was the best one.I think the trick is to stop reading once you notice you stopped enjoying it.Which sure feels hypocritical in hindsight since I absolutly loathed DAI and Veilguard yet still wanted to finish them just to see where it goes.And now it sure feels like I am done with DA forever.> I want the world to feel big but cohesive.IMHO thats exactly what FR is until you get to the post 3rd Edition stuff.> behind the different races and their beliefs/conflicts/prejudices, like what are the gith and the tieflings eeeeeh depends on the Edition.When they first popped up in the Planescape Handbook they were basically people that were touched by the lower planes in some way. For example you might be an adventurer getting into the Abyss or one of the Hells for one reason or another and then got a woman preggers/got yourself and suddenly your kid was a weird demonic mutant. Or one of your ancestors got raped by a demon.Or made a deal with a demon.Essentially mysterious demonic radioactivity.
>>506960871Heres your beloved HoF
>>506954448>>506960937cont>GithNot sure what about them confuses you since you get a crashcourse of the lore during the game. One of the oldest slave-races to the Mindflayers, after they regained their freedom there was a schizm between those that thought they should temper themselves and be read if the Mindflayers ever rebuild their Empire (Githzerai) and the ones who wanted to grow in Strength via conquest and essentially became interdimensional pirates. (Githyanki)>It's actually fascinating to read all of these old books and realize that we're living in a kind of fantasy dark ages completely irony poisonedYep.>The Witcher adaptation allegedly suffers from this, as the showrunners hate the books and the gamesdefinetlyI couldnt make it past the 2nd or 3rd Episode while I devoured the books.>Why does everyone trying to make fantasy seem to hate fantasy? Talentless hacks trying to leave their mark on something in hopes that they might earn royalties.Its probably also the main reason why VG didnt bring back any of the old companions despite them essentially being worse versions of NPCs you had in your party before (Bellara and Merril), (Zevran and Lucanis) etc etc.>Slanderous.Oh please.I would have had more respect for her if she actually wrote about fried chicken and watermelons in space.>I know and I do like bad things, in fact I quite like the Menzoberranzan drizzt trilogy,Thats great! I love the books about that autistic little purple-eyed prick even if the character itself does nothing for me.I do think that the sidecast is pretty strong tho. Wulfgar, Regis, Bruenor and Catti-Brie, all of them feel like stereotypes but do have a touch of uniqueness to them to keep them fresh.> however I physically can't enjoy 99% of those kinds of books. I think it's because they're meant for male adolescents.Now that on the other hand is a shame.
>>506954673>I'm better off enjoying some crappy high school shojo manga.Sure, why not?I also have been diving into WNs and LNs with mixed results once it felt like western fantasy was starting to become stale.> the ideas they handle are interesting enough to me to make me enjoy their books.Thats another one where we disagree.Again, it feels like ideas themselves are from other better shortstories that have been stretched into full-fledged novels.
>>506960871>>506961542Pic relatedThat said>is somehere between 40 to 50>already hears the callingThats just silly.Especially when its never been established when exactly Wardens hear the calling and the book itself theorized that it might be between 35-65 depending on the the Warden.Why would it happen so early for HOF?
>>506960871They wouldn't fucking dare.
>>506962763>Why would it happen so early for HOF?Their punishment for not dying to the Archdemon
>>506962076Could be, I have read some books from Clarke but definitely not all his work. But I do think Egan's ideas are original, I definitely recommend something like Permutation City.About fantasy, I do enjoy Sapkowski, GRRM as well though that's a meme at this point and also I read a couple of the Malaz books and thought they were fine. In fact I should reread them in English because I'm an ESL, got them in my native tongue and I could tell the translation was awful.I have some Gene Wolfe in my to-read pile, I hope it's as good as they say.
>>506963081Based
Give it to me straight! How is the newest game?
>>506963081That said, the longer I look at it the more narrative potential does this idea have.Damn shame.In fact, It might have been pure, unfiltered KINO to have HoF still doing his job even blighted to this degree because there is still a job to be done.
>>506963583>I have some Gene Wolfe in my to-read pileOh, same >>506963689Not even worth the bandwidth it takes to get it on your computer. Unless you are a Solavellan.
>>506963689Bad if you like DA lore, world-building, rpg options. Okay if you like action gameplay
>>506963670And this is why I nailed you to the Veil forever, Solas.
>>5069636892/101 point for no bugs1 point for hair
In War; VictoryIn Peace; VigilanceIn Death; Sacrifice
>>506963689
>>506963583>I definitely recommend something like Permutation City.Havent read that and will put it on my list.>GRRM as well though that's a meme at this pointIts hard to pretend that Asoiaf isnt getting worse the longer it goes.I could barely make through the last two books and that was what.. a decade ago? >. In fact I should reread them in English because I'm an ESL, got them in my native tongue and I could tell the translation was awful.Which language?>Gene WolfeThats another name I havent heard in forever.Im trying to remember what Ive read by him but I think it was only 2 volumes of shortstories.
>HoF fags clinging to their oc donut self insert 15 years laterEw
>>506964936>frogposter
>>506963998ABSOLUTE CINEMA
>>506964936>solasfags still sperging out about DAO because deep down they realize everything after DAO was trash
>>506965070Morrigan doesn't remember you
>>506965345Neither does your family.
>>506965345Your deadname will be on your headstone.
>>506963998Why does Warrior Grey Warden have a tribal face tattoo if he’s supposed to be a nobleman?
Is this le problematic?
How are you holding up, /dag/?
>>506965975Yeah, did you see any nude elf slaves in Minrathous?
If you want good Forgotten realms novels, may I suggest (my) favourite.It's nice, low-stakes murder mystery in fantasy setting. The writing is slightly schlocky, but the teists are good
>>506965975DAV is Rook's safe space, so yes.
>>506966159Feeling kind of sad thinking about how Dragon Age is over now
>>506966250This is much worse, but is still plenty of nice if you like slightly immoral scoundrel protagonists
>>506966250>>506966481And this is imo better than the two, but it takes place in dragonlance. But it's rare one that happens before the metaplot begins; really made me change how I view that setting
>>506965720He got it at Ostagar
>>506966176No but I should have.
>>506964679I don't think asoiaf is getting finished. Funnily enough, the books started to go to the shitter when grrm lost his assistant writers, one of which is... The Expanse writer, and I definitely see the resemblance in the style.>language yurop spanish. the malazan translation was done cheaply and without care because why bother right? It's pulpy fantasy after all. thankfully I'm able to read English nowadays so I can skip that crap. On the other hand, we have quality translations for Witcher books unlike the anglosphere.
>>506966462Do you really want more installments akin to veilguard, really?
>>506967643No I want to go back to like, August. Before I knew how bad it would be.
>>506967968What expectations regarding the quality did you realistically have when they announced that Dreadwolf would be a live service game, then backed down multiple times until he hit a complete decade of development?
>>506968309I thought it would be action slop gameplay and full of woke shit but I kind of figured it would at least still be pretty Dragon Age-y. I knew veteran writers worked on it even if they had since been laid off and left in recent years. I really didn't expect to be so shocked at how butchered the story and characters are.
>>506968631If it is blatantly woke it cannot be Dragon Age-y. Just imagine an NPC brining up "I'm non-binary" up in a conversation.
Is /dag/ excited for KCD2 and/or Avowed?
>>506970868No and no. I played PIllars but I found it to be too dry and serious.
>>506970868Not particularly. I am curious at the very least. More so for KCD2, I haven't played the prior game. Nor have I played any of the PoE games.
>>506971638Solas looks like he wants some of that Qunari cock.
Can you seriously play a qunari grey warden in DATV?
>>506972883Yeah and there's a sidequest about the first Qunari Warden it's cringe as fuck
>>506972883Yes.
>>506972883Why not
>>506972883Theres no limitations on any of the backgrounds.
>Sten doesn't even know his own people's history of coming across the seathis meathead...
>>506974608How do you know that he is unaware of that?
>>506971227I loved KCD it's full of SOVL. Pillars 1 and 2 are very milquetoast, I can't really pinpoint anything extremely bad but they're not the kind of story or setting that enrapture you either. PoE2 had a collection of tier 2 companions without dialogue that were more interesting than 80% of the actual cast, it was really weird
>>506965975Public sex acts are a bit spicy imo. Noblelady is getting her pussy ate good for her
>>506966159Pretty good, made another discord server thats only rule was "respect each other" make a bunch of new rules because I talked about Elga'nan raping Emmrich while Rook helped.
>>506978967How did you notice that
>>506976649Because he says as much when you ask him where the Qunari come from and if they're native or not to their current home.
>>506979337I just think slavery is neat
>>506972883Yes, has some nice reactivity.
>>506978967God. What we could have had....that's so hot...
>>506978967Unfathomably based
>Clouds of demons flying through MinrathousI never noticed, nice touch.
>>506979432calm down epstein
>>506979131Why
>>506982317You know what's messed up is that when I was perusing the artbook and I saw that pic I had the same idea but I didn't look close enough to see that that was what was actually going on. I declare Matt Rhodes a genius because he had the same idea as me.
>>506983508Tbdesu the hand has the same color as the other elven slaves so I figured it was some elf guy being forced to eat human pusspuss. Imagine the smell...
>>506984630Her clothes and cushions in the palanquin probably smell like perfume and she was probably bathed in a rose petal bath before heading out....I need fics written about this concept art.
Muncher Slave or Orlesian butt-wiper, hmmm choices choices
>>506985303A venatori is probably cleaner than a Orlesian
I ported her for a Lucanis run but I don't think Harding approves.
I don't get the point of male sex slaves when men will jump at the chance for sex when offered
Ferelden my love
>>506985784And those men probably have weak dick
>>506985784Speak for yourself.
>>506985652>romancing Lucanis Harding knows where it's at
>>506985784You think a sex slave enjoys being a sex slave
Inquisition is just way too pretty
>>506986281I like this party comp. My other go-to is swapping Sera for Cole
>>506985991I know, I know..
>>506985652I hope you don't get jealous easily
>>506986534Growing up is realizing... Sera is one of the best DA characters.
>>506986864Nah, plus since I am playing a mage, I won't have her in my party anyway unless its for her missions.
>>506986281Emerald Graves my fav area
>>506987192I liked the scavenger hunt quest here. I love stuff like that
>>506987963Ah the virgin realization
I wanna bully him more.
>>506988378Sexually
Fenris is my slave.
>>506988957I wonder if Fenris would have liked pussy eating duty better than bodyguard
I'm so excited to make my elf Rook and Inquisitor in Veilguard
>>506988957Marian Hawke...
>>506989103The cc is ass
>>506989103That's my favorite vaseline it's so pretty
I still can't get over how lazy they were with the outfits here. Supposed to be Neve's servants but they got the uniform off dead venatori (we killed slaves?).The in-game description calls it grey-warden recruit armor.There was a slave outfit that got cut last minute surely?
>>506989379>saved Thank you
>>506989275Saaame. Which elven god is it associated with anyway?
>>506989619Mythal
>>506989619It's Mythal's.
>>506989097only if its hawkes
>>506990589>Epler said he should have been in VG. So why didn't you guys
>>506992064Laziness, incompetence, apathy.
>>506989417You're mercenary servants, not slave servants
>>506992064He can die
>Beautiful>Feminine>Classy>Sophisticated>Tevinter master raceHow can other women in Thedas even compete?
>>506995097True that may be. They still featured him in external material be it novels and comic books. Same goes for Alistair and Sten to name a few others.
>>506995097Tell that to Leliana lo. Also hes in the canon comics
>>506995717My queen. I wish they put more makeup on her to really make her cunty
Is Lavellan by definition an Alpha Widow?
>>506996271Leliana coming back to life got a lot of flack to the point they came up with that whole "really a faith spirit" thing in Trespasser if she died in Origins. They clearly want to avoid that in the future so the only characters appearing are ones that can't be killed.
>discovered the term 'fictoqueer'For you, /dag/nas
>>506998683Only attracted to Emmerich now, darling?
>>506998971Stinky fujo
>>506998971
>>506998971Why does peepaw have cheeks
>>506999925What did you think the Mournwatch's hiring requirements were?
>>506999925For a vegetarian. He's got more meat on his bones in areas I'd least expect.
>>506999528Stinky twink to you. Women aren't on the internet.>>506999925Padding so we don't shatter his pelvis
>>507000601sitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyfacesitonmyface
Does anyone have pdfs of the World of Thedas books?
Geralt of Rivain
>>506995717By not being pajeetas
>>506995717They don't
>>5070021671 - https://mega.nz/file/dgUyEJhQ#yaIm4sVeoakZl7zNJviAkDAlX_L1FYgG7DjIZEpMUxM2 - https://mega.nz/file/Fp8zCTwL#h-xIWTrZ6SjkxKS-fl_5Q2wrCAuTe2gJS4PTCsbiYnk
>>507004260Drawfag here, What do you want for your services.
How about The Art of Dragon Age: The Veilguard?
>>507004563Nevarran Empire of the Undead conquering weakened south
>>507004640Fuck alright I'll try.
>>507005301Bonus points for the Venatori chilling in Val Royeaux
>>507004575Will partial pdf suffice? (233/256 pages fetched from gbooks)
>>507006116Sounds good to me, thanks.
>>507006534https://mega.nz/file/gg0nARYQ#LSQJ8OzwEK3XlJOdIhhKfBY8MiSutkSUCrPuJjCK8HY
>>507007092Thanks again!
>>507004260thank you for the uploads anon!
>>506995717SAAR
>>506992064Thank God he wasn't. I don't want Epler and trannies touching Fenris.
>>506965975Why is Solas wearing a Diaper?
>>506966250>>506966481>>506966682Oh I remember those. Thats one of the things I always liked about FR that despite there technically being epic heroes and villains around you still get see how "normal" non-adventurers live and have their stories told.
>>506967513>I don't think asoiaf is getting finishedNeither am I.But I think it was around the last 3 or so books where I finally noticed that GRRM is just setting up mystery boxes, mystery boxes that he will have to adress at some point and where asoiaf is currently at in the last book it will impossible.Mystery-Box-Storytelling ist bad per se, but you run into the very real danger of the resolution being much weaker than what people imagined.Which you can also see through out Dragon Age.> It's pulpy fantasy after all. thankfully I'm able to read English nowadays so I can skip that crap. Im from the opposite corner of yurop but for some reason we never had the issue of bad translations.The first translations being done by Literature-Hobbyist-Circles even before the Iron Curtain fell and many western books being hard to come by.> On the other hand, we have quality translations for Witcher books unlike the anglosphere.Most translations for Witcher while not exactly bad are poor localized and outright missing a lot of innuendos and quirks of the original language.
>>506970868KCD2 yes, Avowed no.They already made it clear that Avowed will be full of wokisms and millenial writing.
>>506992064Because he was already forgettable in DA2 and the only people who liked him were fujos.
>>506995717Awful design and awful character that feels like it should have been in a different game.Add to it that each time she is on screen I feel like smell that sterotypical punjabi-stank,
>>507012728>each time she is on screen I feel like smell that sterotypical punjabi-stankI'm glad I do not live in a shithole which would induce these mental imageries.
>>507012237NTA but it's obvious GRRM lost steam for ASOIAF after ASOS, the story has been in hiatus for over 20 years in fact. I've long given up on having a resolution to the story especially knowing it's a zombie apocalypse saving the world kind of scenario, which might have been fresh in the 90s but now feels old and boring. Oh well. I'm only sad because he is a fellow degenerate incestfag. >WitcherI read the eng translation and I regretted it dearly, it was awful. I've been reading in English for so long it feels strange to read translations into any of the other languages that I speak, but maybe I should have done some research before. But I only read them so I could play the games anyway.On a similar note it's a shame ZAUM imploded because I quite liked their voice and style. Lots of good stuff coming out of Finland and Estonia recently.
>>507012615Fenris and is the only reason Astarion exists and is directly responsible for BG3 selling 15 gorillion copies. Sorry anon but if you neglect your female audience in current year you're just stupid, fujos spend the most money on media out of all other demographics. Japan knows this.
>>506970868>excited for KCD2Sure. Heinrichkino will carry 2025.
>>507015402>Fenris and is the only reason Astarion existswat
>>507015402>Fenris and is the only reason Astarion existsYeah wat
>redditor made Anders in VGBogged...
It makes me upset when people call Lucanis Italian. He doesn't even have an Italian accent. Americans are so uncultured and stupid.
>>507028805yep it's weird considering he can't stop repeating an european spanish swearing word
>>507029137Italians also aren't brown skinned like that, yes the tend to have dark hair but they're white. But of course in the US Italians are considered POC, it boggles the mind.
>>507029703stop giving mental space to murrican retardation, they're invasive enough as it is
You realize most of us didn’t play Origins at launch right. Or were too young to do so at the time.
>>507032692meant for >>506964936
Zoomies begone. Return to skibidifortnite general or roblox or wherever the fuck. Literally no one cares what you think about Dragon Age.
>>507033347It’s not my fault you are old. Or that my mother wouldn’t let me play a game with gore and sex in the 4th grade.
>>507030850>invasivehe says on the website created by a new yorker american
who let the broccoli hair in
>>507033854*copied by a new yorker american ftfy
>Ew you are YOUNG and PLAY VIDEO GAMES in your spare time
Reminder that our earliest examples of Antivans were this random bitch, and the Antonio Banderas elf
>>507029703Italians aren't white + Treviso is named after a city in Italy. You lost.>>507033539>4th gradebruh..... I think I was like 14 when DAO came out, I played it then.
>HAHA head in toilet so funny
>>507034326>Italians aren't white
>>507036247Just look at burgoid classification of convicts and you see how completely braindead they are.
>>507036247Yeah they aren't
>>507036543If DaQuawn Ramirez-Goldblattstein says it, it must be true.
>>507028805Are you the same fag who was claiming Lucanis Wasnt brown before launch and then that bearded male Rook from the trailer was white
>>507032692>most of usYou mean here? This place by now is mostly old people
In TN Lucanis says "merda" instead of "mierda" like he does in the game.
>>507034350>zoomers get out of my general!!
>>507033347>>507034350the oldest zoomers are 27 retards, skibidi toilet and fortnite is alpha slop.
>>507037876I am NOT a zoomer
>anyone older than 19 years old is basically 1 foot in the grave!Do you realize what a retarded fetus you sound like? Your brain is so undeveloped you don't even have the sense to lurk moar and fit in where you're not wanted.
>>507037976Are the 19 year olds in the room with us?
age wars are cringe and gay tbdesu
I'm 37
>ummmm excuse me sweaty, maybe you don't realize some of us attempting to discuss this game weren't even born yet when it came out? maybe try checking your priviledge?
>>507037736>Is that an empty hallway AAAAAAA I AM GOING INSANE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
Emmrich and Isabela are both in their 50s
>>507036817No kek
>>507034289>spanish accent>murderer>part of a gang>is a whorezevran is latinx coded
>>507037565Serious? VG devs really did not give a single fuck, it makes me sad.
>>507038847is it envy
Are spaniards white? I know portuguese are.
>>507038915>latinxWhenever someone uses this word I imagine somewhere in mexico is a fat gay disabled mongoloid tranny in a tutu who goes by "la tinx" as his stagename.
>>506995717her tits where did she lost them? How can I help to find those missing funbags?
>>506995717>Feminine>With that tranny voice
>>507039368good morning saar
>>507038987My bad it was not Lucanis but another Crow. However "mierda" is nowhere in the entire book.
>>507039570her va is a real lady. she just sounds like a gay man
>>506995717Neve is boring and thirsts after Lucanis anyway
>>507039572Good morning sir! As I said where can I find her bobs and vagene?
All this Neve slander
>>507039736you find many bob and vagene below juggernaut, do the needful saar
Neve does not have a tranny voice. It's just kind of husky, not nasally and faggoty sounding like Maevaris' voice.
>>507040110Isn't Maevaris voiced by a man?
>>507040261Exactly
>>507040360What is this post supposed to convey?
>>507040360ong
>>507040616>>507040858Posted in the wrong general. Don't mind me.
>>507038671i dont think any of you know what a zoomer is
>>507040918What is this level of disorganization?
>>507040918Cute
>>507041401
>>507041482bg3
>>507044825shit game
>>507045420better than vg
I read so much elgar'nan/rook fabfiction that almost said Da'len in during a hook up.
>>507046346So you see yourself as the Elgar'nan? Interesting
>>507046346DA fanfics cause brain rot? Good to know.
>>507046346For what reason would you say dalen
>>507046664Why be daddy when you can be the all-father?>>507047305He was giving good head and i wanted to praise him
>>507047549Elgarfags are gay??
>>507046664Stop giving men long hair its so gross
>>506955868Great taste, anon
>>507040110Neve has an awfully deep voice though. Like, I can't fault anyone for thinking it was a tranny.
>>507048470Women can have deep voices. I remember my 4th grade teacher had a deeper husky voiced and even at that age I recognized that men were kind of into it. Neve still sounds like a woman.
>>507047727Awful taste
>>507049018Are you into trannies?
>>507048198a fellow patrician... I hate what that nigga did to Astolfo, before he came along I always pictured him as a chad
Would you?
>>507054307Yes imagine the smell
>>507054307Would what? Let him live? No.
>>507054307That's basically lich Emmrich. The answer is obviously _no
>>507056656>>507056705Die
>>506995717by having boobs
>>507053945Yes
Feels like the Veil Ranger specialization doesn't belong in this game. Who has time to hang back and line up shots when enemy AI just constantly rushes you? Saboteur seems to be the actual archer spec.
Only canon games allowedNo Veilguard discussion beneath this line__________________________________
>>507060335I didn't specialize VR but ranged was my favorite way to play. AI rushing you is the challenge.
I used to be a huge Morriganfag but I've come to like Leliana more now that I'm replaying Origins. Maybe V*ilguard's version of Morrigan retroactively ruined her for me. What's the point in getting invested in her character and arc with the Warden when she just ends up becoming Flemmeth/Mythal's skinsuit anyway?
>>507060335There's a few creative ways to keep people far away from you - Storm's Path knocks people back for one but using companion abilities also help. Bellara's got that big rift ability that drags groups into one area couple that with the aforementioned Storm's Path not only do you hit them hard but knock them back a good bit so one can pick off the survivors.
>>507060335Use a warrior to get aggro or Neve to crowd control erm
>>507039686"Pezzo di merda" is a common Italian curse, it means "piece of shit". No idea why they went with Spanish for Lucanis - and they couldn't even be bothered to change his name, they kept the original Tevene name he had when he was still supposed to be a spy from Tevinter.
>>507060679I don't have an issue with ranged specifically, Saboteur focuses on bow shit and feels fun to play. It's just Veil Ranger feels so slow and unsatisfying in a face paced combat game like this.
>>507061013>Flemmeth/Mythal's skinsuit Tragic but true.
>>507062205Saboteur is actually what I ended up doing too and doing a necrosis-based build
>>507061852Was Lucanis not supposed to be his real name?
>>507061852He should be saying cazzo all the time instead of merda. Nobody talks like he does. It's like they did 0 research. Very sad after Gaider talking about how they tried their best to cast authentic accents for each region of Thedas
>>507063276They also had a rule about not using terms that originated in the 20th century upwards. Now look where that went.
>>507061852Lucanis's whole concept is a mess
>>507063972What was he like in TN?
>>507061852Tevene's base language is latin, so it makes sense for thedas' italian to have some influence from it, no? Even thought they aren't from neromenian group
>>507064671His story in TN is about him doing a hit on this Wigmaker magister with Illario at this big party he's throwing. When infiltrating his mansion he finds out that he has dozens upon dozens of slaves that he has variously dismembered/mutilated and forced fed with red lyrium that he uses to farm hair for his wigs. Upon finding this out Lucanis is so basically enraged at the sheer cruelty that instead of just doing the hit he wants vengeance on behalf of the victims. So what he does is destroy the elven artifact keeping the Veil intact since in that lab/workshop so much blood magic and death and despair was going on it would be basically wide open with out it, and unleashes demons that end up killing the mark and others at the party and he fights the Wigmaker personally. He doesn't get out without taking heavy damage and almost dying though. To me he seemed like a guy who did not really want to be an assassin but he was doing it out of a sense of obligation because of his family so he had basically decided to do it his own way to get some kind of personal satisfaction out of it. He did not want to become First Talon.
>>507054171Astolfo dressed up as a women, convincingly apparently. So a trap he gotta be in anime terms.
>>507048781>Women can have deep voices.Yes. But Neve sounds a tad too deep for my non-American ears.
>>507068670It has nothing to do with being American. If you had ever interacted with women you would probably know that there is really no mistaking an actual female voice for a male's no matter how deep it is.
>>507069279Granted that female didn't do HRT or whatever and unnaturally deepen her voice that way.
Neve sounds like a chain smoker.
>>507069279You have the same shitty voice don't you
>>507070919No just tired of you homosexual chud fucks acting like everything that isn't a screeching anime bimbo is actually a man.
>>507071382Vocaroo nao!
>>507069279It actually has a lot to do with the phonetics of the language.
>>507071653How lonely are you???
>>507066186"Lucanis" is no Italian word. Contrary to Latin every Italian word ends with a vowel. If he had a proper Italian name it would be Luca.
>>507054307Would you what? Kill him? I did.
>be me>play amell for hawke relation>find my oc donut to be a boring human and want to play surana instead because i prefer playing nonhumansUgh.
im a woman with an alto 2 voice so this conversation is kinda awkward
>>507073118>I deliberately did all of this and now I am mad. How could this happen to me?Anon pls.
>>507073118You again. Have you ever beat dao or start da2.
>>507073628I'm halfway through. Omw to brecilian forest, will save nonhuman playthrough for inquisition. Also stop stalking me >:(
>>507068469Lel I didn't even know that. Orlando Furioso is so good it's like one massive shitpost. I like the part with the island where all the women are warriors and the men are slaves and only the men that can defeat 10 of them are allowed to get a wife
>>507073950Sorry hehe
>>507071382There are good western voice actors, Neve's just isn't. No one ever whined about Morrigan's voice. No one ever called Flemeth's voice tranny-like. Think about it, if you are capable of that.
favorite part of playing redcliffe as an elf is accusing isolde of racism and watching her have a mental breakdown
>>507072531Did you even read the post?
>>507075010Tevene (Thedas Latin) and Antivan (Thedas Italian) are pretty much 1:1 Latin and Italian. There is no place for "influences". You can see it with the fact that every single Antivan character has an Italian name: Teia, Viago, Illario, even Zevran can pass since it's not uncommon for certain Italian words to end with "n", like Don. In this case they fucked up their own lore by giving him a Tevene name and making him swear in Spanish, no intentionality here.
>>507075637Did you even read the post?
>>507075637>every single Antivan character has an Italian name:
>>507074824>No one ever whined about Morrigan's voice.EA didn't even want her to have the job because her voice sounded not young and bright enough you stupid fucking faggot. No one was calling anything they don't like "tranny" and "woke" back then and that is literally the only reason why no one whined. Retard.
>>507078024>the 27 year old goth chick doesn't sound peppy enoughLol lmao thank God Claudia made it
>>507078370She's supposed to be like 19 in Origins thoughbeit
>>507078370>Morrigan >27
Reminder that Morrigan lusted for giant Qun Cock
>>507079807I would have jumped on Sten if they let me
>>507079807well obviously? After my first ever DAO playthrough 14 years ago romancing Alistair, clueless me immediately started another one fully intending to romance Sten. Ah, what a disappointment. BioWare has robbed us so much regarding qunari it's not even funny
>>507080251He's a soldier on a mission for the Arishok, not for getting his dick wet.
>>507080872that circumstance would've made the romance only hotter and more tragic (read: better), sillyI would've also romanced the shit out of any qunari including the arishok AND ketojan in DA2 with femhawke
>>507078563Really? Couldve sworn she was older.
>>507081768varric unrequited feelings for hawke is enough tragedy i think
>>507081768No it would just be totally out of character given how dedicated he is. Also the player must have a negative IQ for fucking someone who murdered an entire family when he was simply panicking.
>>507060335I see someone didnt notice how broken TAUNT is on Davrin and Trash.
>>507082335His fault
>tfw no antaam proper qun romance just abominations like Bull and Trash
>>507071382>acting like everything that isn't a screeching anime bimbo is actually a man.This is coming from someone who simps for a feminized twink version of a man.Have söme fuckign self-awareness you hypocrite.
>>507073118>i prefer playing nonhumansBut youre already a nonhuman IRL.
>>507083067OH SNAP
>>507078024>EA didn't even want her to have the jobWhat kind of argument is this even supposed to be? We all know EA is retarded.And from what I remember she was slated for it even before EA took over the project and buying Bioware.
why do you keep arguing with attention whores
>>507083614Tis amusing that's why.
>>507085824Morrigan.................
>>507085824You deserved the bullying you got in DAI
>>507083067>>507083228You say that but my autism-induced disconnection from humanity is probably related to that
>>507082520My Hawke would have said yes. I HATE YOU GAIDER!
>>507087861You are together now in the Fade
That reminds me how old is Leliana supposed to be in Origins?
>>507087420I wasnt joking.I can tell.Anyway, since the thread devolved into attentionwhoring: Last two digits of your post decide what sort of Harlot you are.
>>507088051>anders has to watch varric hawke spirit sex
>>507088542More like >Solas has to watch Varric and Hawke have spirit sex forever in Fade Prison
>>507088125Could have sworn she has a line about being older than she looks, but she is apparently like 22 during Origins. I know Alistair is 20 and HoF is probably 19.
>>507088542Man. Some cameos and references in VG so we can have a little bit of closure on companions or side characters would have went a long fucking way for me. I don't care about player worldstates. Just some acknowledgement of the legacy of this series. I think these devs really did not even like Dragon Age at all.
>>507011173Yeah, murder in Cormyr is really, really goodAnd holy shit the villain's plan is absolutely horrifying. Somehow the monstrosity of it hits harder when it's more mundane
>>507088542holy based
>>507089124Isn't it enough for you to know that Merrill made flash cards for Isabela? What more could you possibly want?
>>507088125They never say but she has to be way older. She saved Tabris's (city elf origin) mom and while Tabris was a child.
>>507091185>and while Tabris was a childTabris says their mom died when they were born so who the fuck knows what's going on with that family
>>507091185>>507092440I don't even know whether that DLC is even supposed to be canon given the inconsistencies.
>>507092440Tabris is schizo?
>>507093265Or maybe Lel is, since the story she tells you about her past doesn't match what happens in the DLC.
>>507093509She forgo
>>507082479>says the one who with 99% likelihood romanced an apostate swamp witch that regularly approves of gratuitous sadism and child sacrificeI feel way safer around Sten
>>507094810>whataboutism, strawmanning and assooming in a single sentenceAmazing.
>>507092440They learned how to fight because of Adaia. So that can't be true.Also, funny thing. Some origins push canon personalities on your character. Duncan is told that Tabris is "fiery" and Soris talks to Nelaros about how crazy you are.
>>507095545yet you didn't deny being a morriganfag, curious. in any case all LI in DAO with the exception of Alistair are literal scumbags so >bbbut sten killed innocents while panicking so he's LE BAD and you should romance himis a ridiculous non-argument
>>507096901I don't have to deny anything, the burden of proof is not on me, especially with these baseless assumptions.
>>507097353it's okay morrifag, you shouldn't romance her either but I understand why moids want toanyway, I just took a peek at DA r*ddit sub and there are hardly any threads about DAV anymore lmao, people went back to discuss DAO and DAI. It's dead Jim, this game literally kills itself alongside any drive from the player to keep interacting with it. It's like a game embodiment of a tranny.
>>507098206Sounds like here. VG has nothing to discuss
Reminder that Adaia was a nigger.
>>507098903Thats ok I made my Tabris brown
>>507098903A nigger with blond hair?
>>507099091Dyed
>>507098903my half black elven queen tabris
>>507096901>except Alistairwhat do you call refusing to fight the archdemon when there's like 3 wardens left in the entire country because of his idealist views of the wardens
>>507098206>it's okay morrifag, you shouldn't romance her either but I understand why moids want toWhatever you say schizo.
>>507096901>>507097353>>507098206He is an actual childkiller.He also killed the children for no reason.He killed the whole family.Even HE is ashamed of it yet somehow YOU arent.What is it with women simping for childmurderers/abusers?You keep going on about moids you disgusting subhuman fat whore yet not even childmurderers are off the table as long as you can schlick to it.Holy shit, your parents should out your ina bag and drowned you in a lake.
>>507098903>>507099091None of the Elves in DAO had negroid facial features.Brown Elf =/= Nigger
>>507103131Anon its fictional, calm down. VG has nice non-problematic companions if that makes you happy.
Drew cute stuff inbetween breaks from destorying my liver attempting to finish Inquistion.Two in now, time to make more attempts.
>>507103443>SuranaBased. Cuteeeee anon.
>>507103386Foids simping for mass murderers is unfortunately not fictional.
>alleged oldfags somehow forgot Jaheira and thinks brown skin=black
>>507103386Oh NOW its fictional again.You keep seething about "moids" and dudes liking Morrigan and Merril but when someone calls you out for being a completly broken, brainfucked hypocrite suddenly its fiction again.Fucking hell, I wish I could hate women out of existence.
>>507103807Remember that Japanese yandere girl or Jodi Arias even >>507103887Not even the anon you are seething about, its a game calm down !
>>507104053>Remember that Japanese yandere girl or Jodi Arias evenI have no idea what these words mean, I'm not a weeb.
>>50710380790% of violent criminals are moids, there isn't enough female serial killers for the reverse to be as common.>>507103443Your child Surana looks exactly how I imagined mine to look like, and I was like wtf did I draw that??
>>507104179Some jap girl tried to kill her bf and internet boys love her cause shes cute and SO anime!
>>507103131Morrigan would have approved.
>>507104259>90% of violent criminals are moids, there isn't enough female serial killers for the reverse to be as common.Unfortunately you are way too fucking fat to ever be targeted by them.To even kill you they would need oxygen-tanks and at least 2 experienced sherpas.
>>507104538I'm 115 pounds but I guess that's fat for someone who gets off to ozempic-poisoned egirls. >>507104053Same, I think romancing evil characters is fine idk what that other anon is talking about.
>>507104053>>507104345Remember when some anon made a profile on Tinder and took the picture of a male model and wrote in the description that he sexually abused children and is on the sexual offender registry and you retarded roasties still wanted to fuck him?Stop fucking embarrassing yourself.
>>507104715>Romancing evil charactersYeah I don't know why anons sperg out about that. What are you the morality police. Am I on rddit or tumblr.>>507104923Theres no women on 4channel why are you so mad?
>>507104715>>507105143Straight to pilpul again.gg no re
If liking Sten means I am a pedophile rapist Hitler I accept. Rather have him around than Harding.
>>507104923meanwhile moids will come out of the woodwork to congratulate a little boy for getting molested by a female pedo
>all this because someone said they want to romance stenSpecial ed class.
>>507103131>getting this mad about women discussing video game romanceslmao seek help, you're unhinged and sadly not fictional unlike Sten. imagine if your parents read the diarrhea your incel hands just typed
that reminds me of the time the solavellan femcel tried to shit on other femcels for romancing anders because he's "toxic"
The roastards are at it again I see.
>>507107021If you think this is bad you haven't seen the waifu wars in Hoyoverse generals
>>507107520I must confess that I have not, nor do I really feel the need to remedy the lack of said experience. There were waifu wars in /meg/ however, but they were more on the funny side.
>>507105560>>507105809women are cancer.Its like you have the reverse midas-touch, anything you get your grabby hands on turns to shit. Hobbies, Fandoms, anything really and whenever someone calls you out you start screeching about incels or modis or what the fuck ever in hopes that there enough white knights and Save-a-ho's around to agree with you.
no... I'm not allowed.... /dag/cel police told me so...
>>507108223NOT WOMEN IN MY MEDIA FRANCHISES!! SAVE MEEEEE!!!
You guys just hate Sten because he's a strong black bvll...
>>507108319Wow why do you condone mass child murder and slavery?
>>507108630That anon isn't Morrigan
Not women in my grimdark fantasy Canadian video game series with female writers that let you play as a female character, with unique female only lines and a female only romance
Stop talking about gender and instead talk about worship, love, obedience and kneeling.
>>507108319
>>507108223
>>507108223Most fandoms are female-dominated though, a few lorefag males will join the frey at most but the rest will just make porn.
>>507108896Are the fics tentacle sex
>>507108896Is that Mythal?
>>507109123sometimes.>>507109165Self insert rook as it should be.
>>507108921must resist the temptation... the sheer immorality of it, ahh...
>>507108481>>507108951Im gay tho so calling me an Incel - your go to reflex - aint working.
>>507109616Then why haven't you fucked Gaider yet?
>>507108973That's not true
>>507109616Did I use incel in my post retard. AAAA WOMEN RUINING MY SERIOUS BOYS CLUB FRANCHISES!!
>>507109616>I'm gay thoughFarquaad is back?
>>507109574>>507108921modded Sten ggrr
>>507109949Vanilla Sten is fucking cancer.
>>507109949DA2 qunari are the way they were meant to be since the beginning, they just couldn't get them done in DAO
>>507109698Because he sucks.>>507109779>umm ackshually I never said itSo now you are going to pretend to be retarded, got it.>>507109869Yeah I bet you wish little faggot mascot was back.
Why does everyone shit on Dalish warden? >HURR YOU DONT GET YOUR OWN SPECIAL STORY ARCSo? Tav doesn't get one in BG3 but Durge does. I don't see anyone bitching.
>>507110118No>>507110165Yeah but its just the enemy mook model. It feels wrong
Slathering pussy juices on Solas' bald head until it turns into a reflective globe.
>>507109616I'll assume you did not touch Zevran since he's an unrepentant murderer, so is your HoF actually celibate? Or did you mod your game to unethically erase straight characters?
>>507110214>story arcWhat do you mean. I never played Dalish origin past the prologue
>>507110438He would love that...
>>507110480Its the second. Faggots always rape Alistair (and Cullen).
>>507110313>NoYes.
>>507110635I know. They will forever and canonically be heterosexual and love pussy THOUGH!
>>507110494Mage gets reactivity in the tower and Redcliffe with Jowan's reunion Human Noble get the Howe fight I guess Dwarves get Orzammar contentDalish elves mainly just get punished Tamlen showing up at camp and suiciding himself into you
>>507110438this but Elgar'nan's tummy so it reflects the sun.
>>507110879Wrong, the Zathrian clan and the city elves also treat you way better.
4 drinks in and I'd rather do chores. Why can't I finish this shit>>507103697>>507104259Thanks. My autism likes to think a Alienage Neria had her hair made short by her mom's bitch shem employer to show off her ears. Later she grows a cut to hide them.
>>507110523I knew that would summon your ass
>>507110879>suiciding himself into youRomance is alive
>>507111029Eh yeah but that's mainly just elf things you have no connection to the clan
Its Joever.
>>507111060Well yes that is relevant to my interests, how clever of you.
I was at Target and saw 4 copies of Veilguard lined up in a row. A full horizontal row. I think some poor sucker took one of them because there was enough space for 5. >>507111332That's how you know sales are bad
>>507111060Bitch is programmable, like a Pavlov dog.
>>507111030Very cute
>>507111332I bought it on launch, I should have waited 2 months...
>>507111030i like her :)
What did you think of that Exodus game? It's being done by more BioWare devs than current BioWare games
>>507112305Its not out yet. Not even in early access
>>507111273The keeper said at the very beginning that they were about to fuck off to the north.
>>507112305Is there aliens
>>507112716Not that anon but apparently so. We haven't seen any of whom will be our companions. Just two Human companions so far.
>Listen to Mr Black Elf’s life story>He effectively told his Dalish clan that he was going out to buy a pack of smokes and never came back.
>>507113391Oh I like him
>>507113391I am interested now
>>507113550Looks wise he's quite handsome. I hope Tom and Elise aren't underwhelming like a good amount of ME's human companions were. Here's his description.>Tom Vargas is a charming rogue. He is lean and handsome. Tom has suffered extensive experimentation by an enemy military. Over ten years he traveled across the Centauri Cluster working as part of the crew on a variety of different missions. He learned to fight when the rest of his crew was killed, then on a routine delivery to Lidon, he met and bonded with other Travelers, who convinced Tom to stay in Persepolis. This was the beginning of his transition to becoming a Traveler.(He's the guy from the cinematic trailer)
>>507113613Is his face unique at all. Can a person make their Rook Viper.
>>507113613Why is he black?
>>507113965Hard to say if he's the type of guy I'd like or not but yeah he's at least handsome
>>507114193Is everyone with a pigment darker than snow black according to you?
I'm probably going to make a black girl Rook tbdesu.
>>507114321The game has good hair for it
>>507114321I made a black girl Rook and I used the fluffy ponytail hairstyle for a while
>>507113996>Can a person make their Rook Viper.I suppose? I do know there are npc swap mods of him. That switch his model with other companions like Davrin.
>>507114372True. Haven't decided on a background though. Anons suggest plz, since I might be stupid enough to buy this game.
Is Tarquin really trans? He looks like a normal dude.
>>507114271Same here. The charming rogue bit has me a bit iffy on him. I know a lot of people love the archetype of a dashing rogue. I just hope he isn't a simple retread. We've had our Han Solos, Spike Spiegels, etc.
>>507114436Is it the one with the blunt bangs? Looks kind of cute.
>>507114785>Is it the one with the blunt bangs?That's the one
>>507114680>Is Tarquin really trans?Yes. He's FtM (female to male).
>>507114542Uh depends on your race. Elf/human can be anything. Dwarf feels wrong for most of the factions. Qunari in the middle.>>507114680Yes he is. Tevinter has the best trans magic surgery.
>>507114837Wasn’t he in DA2? So he was already trans then?
>>507114907He appeared in one of the short stories but not in a previous game.
>>507114847Leaning towards Mourn Watcher or Shadow Dragons. Human because two black elves just feels out of place.
>>507113513Your Rook needs a black eye to complete the meme.
>>507115238Mourn Watcher has a unique mage and warrior subclass. It has different lines for mage and non-mage Rook. Shadow Dragon has a lot of unique dialogue (its what I picked). Only 1 subclass for mage.
>>507115550hmmm ill think about it. spellblade looks fun though
Thinking about it>Grey WardensThey take anyone. Qunari wardens have unique dialogue because dragon blood.>Veil Jumpers They said anyone can join but its the not-dalish elf elf faction. They even have the footfag elf armor. They are lame also. They get fake vaseline. >Mourn Watch Any. I've seen it has unique qunari and dwarf dialogue and there's the reaper warrior subclass if you don't want to be a mage. Not sure how Nevarra treats non-humans but racism has been defeated by VG's time.>Antivan CrowsElf, human. Qunari have invaded Antiva so it is plausible a qunari orphan could be taken to the Crows? But the Antaam are all male so actually I don't know. Dwarves midget bodies don't scream assassin to me.>Shadow DragonsHuman, elf. I do not know if a qunari could live in Tevinter. I saw people say dwarves shouldn't be able to choose this but its not mage only. There's a line about how your adoptive human family kept you at home if you weren't a human. >Lords of FortuneAny. You are a slave from Tevinter saved by the Lords I believe? There's qunari who live in Rivain separated from the qun already.
>warden rook pestering Morrigan about HoF's life details
>>507118012>Morrigan doesn't remember HoF
>Bellara telling human Rook she doesn’t want to have kids because they won’t look like her.
>>507120503they'll have perfectly pointy ears, you sour tart
Has your opinion on Taash changed?
>>507124850She's cringe but ok
>>507124850No, still think she's one of the most poorly and obnoxiously written characters I've come across in any game. We could've have finally gotten the hot Qunari gf we've all been waiting for but Weekes went full retard and instead we get this weird gender monster who we as players are forced to treat with kid gloves but it's okay for her to be an asshole to others. I know people go on about the Emmerich scene but there's another banter if you're in a romance Harding where she just comes off as a disrespectful piece of shit to Rook and all Rook can basically do is go "haha I'm right here you know..."
>>507125447What does she do about the Harding romance. Is she trying to cuck you?
>cassandra and the inquisitor never got married>meanwhile josephine straight up tells the inquisitor she plans to propose after all this is overThey did my girl dirty.
>>506960871Matt Rhodes is a retard with consistently shit ideas since the Mass Effect days. Bioware literally never listens to his ideas and for good reason. Ghoul HoF would've been absolutely despised by the fandom.
>>507117517>They even have the footfag elf armorThat's a plus. Since that's probably one of the few unique parts the DA elves got going.
>>506949556
shale that sounds very dirty
>>507124850The non binari part is literally the only part of them thats likable. They are just an awful person.
>>507133524>They are just an awful personIsn't that what everyone wants the companions to be
>>507134704Not me
>>507135016You are the minority, the people want argumentative dipshits that the MC needs to tardwrangle ala DA2 or Morrigan/Alistair
>here's your HoF bro
>>507138053I want him to infect everyone with his blight bussy.
>>507135743Interesting when they disagree with me or other companions. Awful when they are just bullying people and having a scream in a piss if anyone offends them
>>507138053I'd be okay with it if he got healed and reunited with Morrigan at the end.
>>507138053....so is that the state that Alistair and/or Loghain would be in by Veilguard or is it only HoF?
>>507110480Calm down, its fiction :)
>>507113391>>507113856I can already tell that this game will suck.The Starfield-Artstyle is a dead giveaway.
>>507114542>since I might be stupid enough to buy this game.I really think you should kill yourself.
>>507119484Yes just like the game in general doesnt remember how all the Elves supposedly left with Solas after Trespasser.>>507125180Are you high?Like, do you eat paint?>>507124850No, shes is the worst Character in DA after Tallis but before Solas.>>507133524>The non binari part is literally the only part of them thats likable.I am actually looking forward to you killing yourself.
>>507125858Cassandra was like 40 in Inquisition.The egg-carton is empty.And honestly, with how quickly she got over her dead boyfriend ist kinda well-deserved.Even Jaheira took longer to jump on Gorion's ward dick.
>>507127116>Ghoul HoF would've been absolutely despised by the fandom.The problem ist not that it would be despised because you shouldnt focus on the fans when you write a story.HOF coming back and still being able to get shit done and refusing the calling he gets things sorted out could be absolute cinema with a competent writer.however:>The Proulds video was 9 years ago>Rhodes releases his concept art just nowArtfags/writers are so predictable when it comes to what inspires them.
>>507114193Tanned skin/turquoise eyes seems to be pretty common among altuses (which are pretty much all related). Dorian is the same, except he has gray eyes iirc.
>>507113996Nope, he's a preset. Yes, you can.
>>507113391This looks kinda bad not gonna lie. Both of them are also ugly>le quirky teehee girl with a haircut worse than Sera>old and walled roidbeast mexican gardener looking mfIf I wanted ugly people in space I'd just watch the expanse. Shan't be buying.
>>507024086>>507026170What Astarion and Fenris have in common, is that they both took it up the ass against their will
Good game dev/exec's analysis on why VG was the way it is.https://youtu.be/dBDf9WtzgBE
>>507143252>Even Jaheira took longer to jump on Gorion's ward dick.Nah man, she gets horny like an hour after seeing his corpseat least cassandra waits a couple of days before reacting to the inquisitor
>>507144648The thing that surprises me is how people cannot tell by the artdirection alone that this will be ass.Its like my third eye opened and now I can perceive from announcements alone how a game will be slop.Its /pol/fags when they dont need to do an Early-Life-Check anymore can tell by the facial structure alone that someone is jewish but with games.
>>507144227Was Mae an Altus? Because if so there are some blondes, and paler families in the mix alongside the swarthier flamilies.
>>507145148>Was Mae>WasIts great that you instantly recognized his pronouns.
>>507145127I agree, especially after VG's first trailers where the environments and the art design were so bad and empty it looked like a mobile game. I don't get people who say Veilguard's environments looked good, they looked worse than Inquisition's for me. Exodus looks similarly ugly, grey and empty. Like, look at this boring grey room. Most of the trailer environments are like this. What is happening to art direction in video games? Is it like writing, where they just resent artists too now?
>>507146205Compare to something like Prey. Even Mass Effect had better art direction with its blue/orange/red colour scheme.
>>507146205>I don't get people who say Veilguard's environments looked good, they looked worse than Inquisition's for me. Exodus looks similarly ugly, grey and emptyWhat the actual fuck are you talking about, Veilguard is many things but empty grey and ugly isn't one of them
>>507146205Exactly.It looks like 10 other games in the past 6 years.You could tell me this is Mass Effect Andromeda and I would believe you in a heartbeat.The only game I am somewhat looking forward to is KCD2.
>>507146558>there are filters that means its good! ngmi
>>507146731keep moving that goal post, buddy
>>507146731You didn't play the game did you, anon?
>>507147242>you uh didnt uh play the game>posts screen full of brown and grayVGs smartest fans right here
>>507146558Those colours are repulsive. They're Concord-tier. Just because something is colorful and has filters doesn't mean it's not ugly. It's bad art. Weisshaupt was one long stretch of dark grey interrupted only by darkspawn pimple red.
>>507147090>filters means its good but now unironically!
>SD: grey, stark blue and stark red >VJ: brown and orange >LoF: stark blue, stark red and gold >MW: pale green and pale purple >Crow: purple and black >GW: dark blue, grey and brown But muh colorful game means it looks good!
Off-topic to DA but on-topic of multimillion dollar companies producing endless sludge:This is from the new jurassic park movie. I wrote shit like this when I was 13 after playing Dino Crisis and posted it on Gaia online.How is this reality?How did we get there?
>>507147412>one long stretch of dark grey>when weisshaupt constantly swaps from red, to yellow then blue from the flames near and distant, and the crackling lightning
>>507146558Nice try, 80% of that image is negative space and almost completely comprised of the colour orange, with very little value contrasts. Compare to a game with actual good art direction.
>>507147894appealing to the lowest common denominator and only dumb people pay for things so stuff made for smart people flops because it just gets pirated.
>>507148036Yeah this looks very good.
>>507148038>baldur's slop>good art direction
>>506960871Bruh...Part of this is actually not stupid because this avoids basically all existing problems with HoF returning, like the appearance, voice etc. but adds a new problem... like HoF being a fucking ghoul lol and not only a ghoul but apparently they were supposed to be depicted as kind of pathetic, making former protagonists pathetic is some retarded modern writing trend
>>507148459>the literal shadowlandsMy guy.
>>507149194>justifying slop
>>507147894There's Half Human dinos in nu jurassic park now?
Something about this and other things added to the game that prevented me from taking it seriously.
>>507155584>He's doing his bestOh how quirky!!! What a chungus!!!! This will definitely sell our game
>>507155584>>507159181Manfred is probably the least problem VG has.
>>507160862It's funny in retrospect, before the game came out it was one of the things that most bothered me about it. Manfred and the Scooby-Doo Darkspawn design. Turns out Emmrich and Manfred are the most non offensive part of the game.
>>507161998True, but by the point I reached Emmrich I was already completely zoned out while playing and just wanted to get over with it.
>there are people on their 5th playthrough of VG
>>507161998>Turns out Emmrich and Manfred are the most non offensive part of the game.It was Patrick Weekes idea to include Manfred in the game. I suspect he did it because he can't stand necromancy and wanted to tone that down even further.
>>507148749>but adds a new problem... like HoF being a fucking ghoulI don't see the problem.
>>507165461you don't see the problem or you're not considering it? a large portion of people wouldn't want their hof to be resemble a zombie. they would prefer that we could customize them like hawke/inquisitornot that any of this matters, the game's been scrapped
>>507154996I dunno what to tell you man.I have had the feeling they've been hiring people off Fanfiction.net for years now.Otherwise I have no idea how standards became this low.
>>507160862You missed the point by such magnitude that it must have been on purpose.Allow me to be your tardwrangler for a second:What anon meant is that Manfred is endemic of the issues the game has with how much of it feels like it was figuratively written by reddit and the other half by tumblr.Your welcome, I hope you will eventually find a way to live with your autism.
>>507163484How?Barely made it through the game once and I feel like I wasted a month of life because I just had to stop playing whenever something cringe and retarded happened that.
>>507168668How low is your IQ anon?
>tfw that one dockman, and Leliana keep unintentionally being really fucking racist to my elf WardenkekThere's something very funny about playing the outraged victim for a change.Shame about that one lolsorandom retard who lets suspicious armed folks enter the tower because CoOkIeS!?! stolen fresh from a random child by le stoic kitten loving qun man
>>507163484Gameplay is fun desuI can much more easily breeze through VG's first act than Origins and 2's bullshit
>>507148749>>507165461>>507165996..Do we have leak of gas around here that makes people retarded?Anon already explained the issue: >but apparently they were supposed to be depicted as kind of pathetic, making former protagonists pathetic is some retarded modern writing trend>HOF still fighting the blight long after his callingCool, lot of narrative potential and could be solid kino if handled well.>depicted as kind of pathetic, making former protagonists patheticThis is the opposite of handling it well, its just the typical millenial writing trend of character-assassination to make your new OC look good.
>>507168912Are your parents siblings?
>>507169315I'd Elgar'Daddy
>>507169338Answer the fucking question, you ESL turdie.
>>507145148Yeah. They are relatives with the Vesperians in fact, aka with Ashur. But maker knows how much of xer is fake.
>>507160862Hes barely in it so yes.
Which evanuris is which spirit/demon in your opinion?
>>507173673>Elgar fuckers want him to be a slutty demonThey already said he's tyranny. Is that not demonic
>>507173807SPIRIT OF AUTHORITY
>>507173673Elgar'nan is a brute. Subtly isn't his thing. Remember that codex about the slaves making his statue. I'd say he was a spirit of command or control.
doing a da2 playthrough, pick one>mage male hawke with merrill >warrior femhawke with fenris
>>507174296Second
>>507174296Both are the dom
>>507174296Warrior Male Hawke Merrill
>>507173673Nothing that he did was deceitful or subtle did this person even play the game?
>>507174553What did he even do other than going on a psychotic rampage?
>>507175334Be cute and nice towards Ghil and save her when she got in trouble at Weisshaupt
>>507174553Elgar'Daddy acts like one with how he always sweet talks people into worshipping him by promising and mindfucking them with their deepest desires.
>>507175745>Be cute and niceThat's what you want from your main villain.
>>507173673Also they're not literal demons just like they're no longer spirits. They became people who let biggest fault take over their lives until it ruined them.>>507175334He made that eclipse. That was kind of cool. He rallied the Venatori, he's clearly charismatic. I dont know. I've started like 3 newer playthroughs and not gotten very far in any of them so I'm pulling memories from the first.
Oh maybe Elgar'nan was a spirit of leadership
spirit of ugly, why this btch purple
>>507176791There's nothing wrong with it, it made him more interesting.
>>507174296First
>>507147894This can't be real.
>>507147894Imagine the potential to breed a giantess waifu
>>507181042Quarianfag is that you?
>>507168787Same anon, it took me a month to play it because it was such a chore. I couldn't play it for more than an hour at once because it was so tiresome and annoying. I've never played a game that felt like a chore, I didn't even feel this way with DA2 and its endlessly repeating levels.
I love Solavellan
>>507183368Yes. SolavellanSpuffyJinMaoChocoPBMy favorites
It's cute and nice to think about but in reality I actually think Solas would be against having children desu
>>507169448No, you answer the fucking question you inbred subhuman.
>>507147894This is some Saturday WB shit right here.
>>507173673>Elgernan>subtle deceitAre these people actually mentally retarded?
>>507187187Yes. They just want him to be their daddy demon degen.
>>507182332Your conscience was rejecting the game at every chance it got. It wanted the best for you. Our bodies are curious beings yes?
>>507182332Oh yeah.This is on point.Describes my experience of playing VG to a t.
>>507182332All the constant companion quests made me take forever to beat it. Every second these whores wanted to do something.
>>507186954Congrats. This sets you apart from your other peers.
>>507187713great now hes gonna tell us why
>>507186954I dont know. Seems like an eventuality given how fairy tale their relationship is and how caught up he gets in his feelings. I do feel like Josephine and Cullen would be the only two from Inq to embrace initially and the rest reluctantly or not at all. I think Sera would probably adopt some street rat orphan but would consider herself a older sister kind of person.
I ate some oysters and now I'm gonna barf
>>507190131Bharv. Post the DA one
>>507190131sounds like bad oysters. barf/vomit to get that shit out of your system
>>507168668there is nothing wrong with that statement you troglodyte
>>507190929>>507190948I think it's too late bros. Should have listened to Isabela and bharved. By the Maker I survive the night
>>507192557how about resting for the day?
>>507192557rip your insides
>>507192667Gonna lay down and fire up a game. Btw fun fact BioWare spent over 500k on Hans Zimmer, and that's just his base rate.
>>507194176you have to eat chicken noodle soup or any soup that has no strong solids in it anon. your stomach is sensitive as fuck, might have to also call in work if you're not feelin better before the day ends>BioWare spent over 500k on Hans Zimmerthey did'nt even know the theme/tone they wanted in veilguard so they hired hans. the dudes company made up some mass effect/super hero type of music. pathetic
>>507194176Which game?
>>507194176500k and the only good parts were Trevor Morris' music lmao
>>507194176Awful changes to Emmrich and Hans Zimmer didn't do anything that was his gay intern.
>>507190131Wash it down with Vodka.
>>507195148nah he should bingeeat pickles.
>>507195882only if when he vomited earlier that he removed all the parasites from the oysters from his stomach..yes. he may have solid foods
>>507195606Right? He pocketed that whole paycheck and delivered subpar music. And they probably paid even more than that since they also hired Lorne Balfe. So maybe around 1 mil for the OST? Check out this one.>>507195159Baldur's Gate 3. Though I'm depressed by how little companion reactivity there is. I feel like Geralt alone with my horse most of the time.
I care significantly less for the Inquisituon cast than I do the DAO and DA2 parties, and fir the VG cast not at all
>>507196552>1 mil for the OSTHorrendous doesn't deserve it at all. I hope Trevor Morris at least made bank for DAI.
>>507196552>I'm depressed by how little companion reactivity there isThey sacrificed most of that for their OC orgin stories and the multiplayer aspect.>>507196818>It's revealed to the whole team that the maker isn't real>Harding: WOW.....did we just, disapprove....the maker?!>Rook: We did.>moves on to the next topicJesus christ the companions sucked me out of the game kek. I can't get immerse in the setting by how everything is addressed and spoken of.
>>507196818I'd feel bad if any of the Origins or DA2 party members were raped. I'd feel indifferent if any of the Inquisition cast got raped, except maybe Josephine.I wouldn't even bother to support any of The Veilguard™ getting raped
>>507197391>the maker isn't realI really didn't understand that conclusion, can anyone explain? Do the ancient elves disprove the Maker? I mean, humans existed before ancient elves since they modeled their bodies on them. Who created humans?
>>507197391I like that none of them but Harding cared about the Maker. Fits the setting perfectly! >>507198696Cute art. We don't know where humans came from yet.
>>507198696As for what is described in the Chant of Light, Solas is the Maker. Humans aren't special and came about the same way any other creature on earth did barring the exceptions we already know about.
>>507199167>Solas is the Makercmon dude
Where did Humans come from? What were they like before the Veil?
>>507199167Interesting reddit comment on the subject I just found:>I've always found the stance to leave the Maker a mystery to be case of pretty obvious modern monotheistic bias among the development team.>They had no problem delving into the real truth of the polytheistic elven pantheon. Modern mainstream polytheistic belief in the real world is quite rare, and most people consider the ancient Greek, Egyptian, Norse, etc. pantheons to be obviously untrue mythology. So, going this route with the elven gods was seen as an obvious direction.>But, when it comes to a monotheistic creator deity, it feels like they've sort of defaulted to modern baseline that this is seen as more believable. Like, from very early on they've always said the Maker should remain a mystery, but my question is why is the Maker off limits when the elven pantheon was fair game?>Either they want the Maker to be the true god of Thedas, which to me shows the monotheistic bias, or perhaps they're afraid to disprove a monotheistic god in the way they weren't for the polytheistic pantheon, which also leans towards that bias. I get that they probably don't want to answer every mystery, but I'm disappointed in where they decided to draw those lines.This tracks with everyone being vaguely atheist. The devs are scared to explore religion in any meaningful way and ironically they come off as scared to offend if they ask the questions and imply that god doesn't exist.
>i had a super special mirror and dagger>i dont have either>i guess you better get busyHe's such a dick and I'm here for itAlso hate that I have to replay intro/tutorials when starting new games. Why is that a thing. Just take me from the cc to the first safe point.>>507198696Some of the chants attribute events to the Maker that we know Solas did.
Neve's a lucky woman.
>>507200871I can smell the faggotry rolling off this post.
>>507200871When was this post made? This person is retarded because it's made clear over and over again that the elven pantheon are not "Gods." Then it would stand to reason there are no actual "Gods" in the Dragon Age setting that have any actual godlike properties and abilities of creation like you'd find in the actual Bible or whatever. This person things there are "lines" drawn but there aren't.
>>507201010True, but that doesn't disprove him. Especially since humans have an indeterminate origin. Dwarves and Titans track as being the pillars of the earth, something that has always existed as the literal foundations of the earth. In that case, the Fade is just how the world is, so that one is also something that "has always existed". Now spirits I don't understand, because spirits are reflections of human emotions. Could spirits exist without humans or predate them? What do they look like in that case? We know that before the creation of the Veil Solas was already "a Wisdom spirit", so it wasn't the creation of the Veil that gave spirits their attributes. I guess they could also be the reflections of the emotions of the titans, since Harding says they can feel anger...
>Cassandra: I know my abilities do not come from the Maker, as I had once thought...>Solas: Your abilities declare the world real. Who, if not the Maker of this world, could grant such a gift?>Cassandra: You believe in the Maker?>Solas: I am always open to new ideas.So he was toying with him. Classic Solas.
>>507202587I agree that it's a sjw answer but the point raised on the lack of exploration over what these revelations mean for the Chantry and Andrastianism shows the devs lack intelligence and imagination. It's easy to "disprove" pluritheistic pantheons in a story because they're made of different kinds of people/gods with their own attributes that are easy to translate into a character (e.g. "Elgar is tyrannical, he looks like a mitilary commander", "Solas is prideful, he stands tall with his chest raised and arms behind his back"), as opposed to "disproving" or asking questions about monotheistic faiths where the creator figure is much less "human" in a sense and more an abstract concept.
>>507202726>Your abilities declare the world real.He's so cunty cuz the "real" world isn't even real to him. What everyone else considers "real" is gimped, broken, devoid of magic the way it was before the Veil.>>507203619>the devs lack intelligence and imaginationAnd I would same the same for players getting hung up on this point.
>>507202726>Cassandra: You believe in the Maker?>Solas: I am the Maker, bitch.
>>507202725The Chant claims he created the Fade and the spirits first in his image. Then took from the Fade "living flesh" and created the fixed world and humans. Then spirits create envy and take from the land to become greater gods.As you crave the earth, the earth shall beYour domain! Into the darknessI cast you! In tombs of immutable rockShall you dwell for all time." Describes the Evanuris being locked away. The demon gods. Though the Evanuris being locked in the Golden City I guess that would be more their dragons in the earth. With Solas' story about the feeling the Elgar'nan eradicated I'm not sure spirits would necessarily be created from emotions. Seems like it can go both ways. Otherwise why wouldn't that emotion exist again when it's something still being experienced.
>most foundational lore in the entire setting>delivered in the form of narrated pictures>exposition sitdown with your team right after just in case you were too stupid to get itgenius storytelling, Bioware
Interesting lore analysis post that goes into detail on the Maker and the lore revelations in VG>So if the Firstborn of the Chant refers to the elves or spirits that became elves, what do the elves have to say about the Maker? Obviously, they never actually mention the Maker by name, but that doesn't mean the Maker is absent from their religion. (...)>The sun, curious about the land, bowed his head close to her body, and Elgar'nan was born in the place where they touched.https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1h7eb6p/dav_all_spoilers_taking_a_closer_look_at_the/
>>507204246>>exposition sitdown with your team right after just in case you were too stupid to get itIt's even worse than that. It's a gossip circle where all the characters are John Epler's mouthpieces for his desperate attempts to make sure you really really really don't feel any empathy for Solas because that would ruin the whole game apparently.
>>507204489Shut the fuck up. Solas loving faggot
>>507204489And to make sure you understand that elves are at fault for everything and the Titans dindu nuffin.
>>507198696When DAO was written it wasnt as popular to shit on Christianity as it is now.Its that simple.I am sure one of the redditfags felt his fedoralust swell when he could shout from the heavens "a-a-ackshually the Maker doesnt exist, take that Andrastians!"And here is the confirmation:>>507200871>Ive always found the stance to leave the Maker a mystery to be case of pretty obvious modern monotheistic bias among the development team.See thats reddit in a nutshell.Someone should explain to them that there are older monotheistic faiths like Zoroastrianism or how unique it is with how its technically both monotheistic AND polytheistic at the same time based on which branch of the vesta you follow (parza or pahlavi) which are then either demons or spirits or are parts of Ahura Mazda that he shed (Angra Mainyu)As general rule of thumb reddit doesnt know what the fuck they are talking about.>>507199167Typical Solasfag-Seethe.I find this here more interesting: Avernus seemed to thing that the stronger the Calling got the more it felt like it was drawing him to the Black City.
>>507204768It's so bad>in case you were too stupid to get itI just wanted to come back to this point because if you listen to the companions you will actually be even more stupid than if you had just used your own brain because they say absolutely retarded and wrong things like>Solas told Mythal that there would be danger, he was agaisnt itThen THE brilliant genius NEVE GALLUS>Solas feels regret over this memory because he didn't forsee the dangerI think Epler wrote all these scenes personally.
>>507203828>>507203952This is on track with all the lame introduced lore how Elven Gods and Mystery Niggas are behind everything.
>>507204970I always thought it was interesting that the Calling draws Wardens underground while showing them the Black City, which is suspended "above" in the Fade. Would have been interesting if the location of the Black City was indeed underground, which tracks with the Chant.
>>507205190thats right sweaty.Its all one person that is to blame for everything.First it was Gaider, then Hamburger Helper and now its Epler.
>>507204970>Avernus seemed to thing that the stronger the Calling got the more it felt like it was drawing him to the Black City.It makes sense since the Evanuris are imprisoned there and the Calling is coming from them.
>>507205807>the Calling is coming from themIs it though? From my understand the Calling is coming from the Blight, which the Evanuris themselves are suffering from. Though since the origin of the Blight is sequestered in the Black City with them it doesn't really change anything.
>>507205582I wouldn't be harping on him so much if he wasn't so proud of his shitty ideas and retarded agenda for this game that he can't stop spewing them in interviews and AMAs. It seriously made so many things about the shitty writing make sense.
>>507204635>>507205582t. Epler
>>507206251Isn't the Calling the Call of the Old Gods? That would mean the Old Gods (Evanuris horcruxes) are broadcasting the Calling even before they're blighted.
>>507207312he has ADHD..pls understand. no but seriously, if they have his dumbass on the mass effect writing team he might push for them to have the characters repeat everything 5 times in one cutscene because of his.."what about us adhd people?? be inclusive!!1" talk no jutsu
>>507205807>the Calling is coming from them.Source?
>>507210508Well, I just assumed that's the case. Why else would the darkspawn obey them?
>>507210884NTA but why would the Blight call to the Old Gods instead of the Black City itself if what it wants is to come out? It's not like the Black City hasn't been breached before.
>>507211352I think it's the Evanrus who are directing the darkspawn to find the Old Gods and thus blight them. I don't think the Blight itself wants anything beyond mindless destruction, if it even has a consciousness.
>>507210884What would be the point though?
>>507212815What benefit to the Evanuris is blighting/freeing their dragons? Since from what we know they're mindless in their prisons. Their dragons are also the only thing sustaining their lifespan, and being discovered by the darkspawn is risky for them since it usually means being killed by a Warden, thus making the Evanuris mortal and making them succumb to the Blight.
>>507214352>>507214582A stepping stone to some plan to free them, I don't know. The Evanuris don't have many options after the disaster that happened when the magisters breached the Golden City and the worship of the Old Gods disappeared from Tevinter.
Man I love Imperial Chantry. Why is southern andrastianism so shit
>>507207312They are all the blame.If you read the fucking interviews about the writers pit you know its a teameffort to make the lore this shit and has been for years if not decades.He isnt to blame for Solas sucking, Solas already sucked in Inquisition.His plan makes no sense, it continues to make no sense in VG and their whole spiel how he is a mastermind and manipulator doesnt hold water with his retarded decisions.They keep telling you that he is but this is at odds with what the game shows us.You guys have such blind spot when it comes to Solas that its flabbergasting.>>507207760t. tranny fandrone
>>507205582I blame Weekes since he's lead writer now. At least Gayder said DA isn't meant to be soft safe space.
Bros I hope Inquisition will be good, the leaked gameplay looks pretty good and the stronghold capture feature looks very interesting! How lucky I am to share this golden age of Dragon Age fandom hype with y'all!
>These dialogue options scares Weekes and Elper
>>507219906have you seen the pax gameplay video??>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAAEUFjq2K4&t=505slook at how close the camera is to the character as they walk around. the spells look nice and the sword swinging has weight to it. boy i sure do hope they don't remove these features before the game comes out. HYPE
>>507220354>not posting RT ones
>>507220683Gawddamn that brings back memories
>>507219906New leaks just dropped bros
Epler is back to shit on bsky about how he gets bullied online lmao
>>507220354game?
>>507223457Can you provide screenshots? I want to see
>>507223796Just go see for yourselfAlso Gaider posted thishttps://bsky.app/profile/davidgaider.bsky.social/post/3lduhoxe4w224Interesting read
>Play DAI again>Think maybe I misremembered and Sra won't be so bad>She isPart of me just wants to tell her to fuck off
>>507224747She was right about everything
Sera is good you just have to not immediately write her off because her way of speaking is really obnoxious. It is challenging yet rewarding.
>>507225036I'm having difficulty considering her in place of Solas, Cassandra, or Varric.
>>507225641She is fun to have around with Blackwall they have fun sibling energy but what I liked about Sera more was the type of relationship she can have with the Inquisitor with high approval. She actually does start looking up to you and taking cues from you. It just felt cool seeing her respect you in her own way.
>>507127116They listened to him when he said a chantry faction would be boring
>>507227494Can you imagine Rook being a part of the clergy
My nigga actually believes he was caught in a catch-22 when in truth everyone is complaining because he's a shit writer
>>507124850How Ms "it sucks being a woman" is the only one that gets outfits that show off a lot of skin? Everything about this character feels like a contradiction.
>be clergy rook>quote chant of light with an uncanny precision regarding any event that happened and will follow, convincing everything that all is, in fact, the Maker's plan>press blessed be the maker in each and every dialogue>"yes, severing the titans from their dreams was a good thing, harding. Trust the plan">praise herald of andraste, double respect if he/she surrendered the troops to the chantry>seriously considering a crusade against nevarra>ashur is discreetly fanboying over the maker along with (you)
>>507221954>Dorian as Solas>Chevalier as DorianDamn I remember this
>>507223974Gaider please play Veilguard pleas...e>>507228985Im a big DA fan and the lore got raped and made more inconsistent. I can't imagine a new person getting into the lore from VG.
>>507228985What was OVER explained? I haven't heard that argument from anyone. I mean there's people mad that "it was elves all along" but those people are retarded and always have been.
>>507231938Is >it was spirits in lyrium shells all alongany better?
>>507232853Yes because people had figured out Solas was a spirit a decade ago.
>>507233037>>507232853I mean no it's not "better" because they're both only complaints people who don't pay attention to the lore would make so who cares about about their opinions when they have no idea what they're talking about in the first place?
>>507231938It's the same people who find gacha plots hard to comprehend and therefore skip them without a thought. Not something to pay attention to.Although, if the writing is actually good, and not a rubbish and meaningless, empty lines giving you no hope whatsoever that is VG, even the most devoted skippers stop at some line and get hooked. It's just how it works.
I've heard people theorize that Elf racemixing kids were always humans because the elves were originally spirits years before VG desu
>>507233430Everything was predicted before VG. It's been 10 years breh. But giving the answers isn't the issue, it's a) how it's done that matters, b) they gave us no new questions whatsoever. Which is, well. Expected, but disappointing.
>>507226413>constantly complains about elfy elves>gets people to search for lavellan's missing clan members anyway i cant hate her completely
>>507234005If you have high approval with Sera she genuinely cares about you. In Trespasser she asks if you are okay because Solas hurt you. Its nice.
>>507220354>in origins you could tell zevran that being bisexual isn't okay, call anora a bitch in front of the entire landsmeet, and tell morrigan her vagina smellswtf happened
>>507225036>Sera is good you just have to not immediately write her off because her way of speaking is really obnoxious. It is challenging yet rewarding.Yeah no she's way too annoying up front for me to bother wasting time with in hopes she gets slightly better down the line
>>507233851>no new questions whatsoeverWhat's the devouring storm and the thing the qunari ran away from What's up with that new voice and mind in the blight that's acting independently from Elgar'nan and GhilWhat's going to happen now with the dwarves with and the stone shaping mages reappearing especially in light on Orzammar burying their heads under the ground And so on
>>507233289You can pay attention to the lore and still dislike the "everything was muh ancient elves" approach.
>>507234165I love how she says it.>I'm sorry he left. Well...no, I'm sorry he left *you.*
>>507234235>tell morrigan her vagina smellsI need to hear this
>>507234472And no one gives a fuck. Jee, I wonder why.
>>507234490And when you explain your reasons for disliking it you're just going to reveal you're stupid and don't actually know much about the lore so, in the case of this game, no, not really. It wasn't an asspull it was planned from the beginning and there are clues all the way back in Origins. That's why lorefags fucking liked Dragon Age at all. The stuff they fucking tell you about the world actually had a point and a payoff up until VG.
>>507234472it's going to have to a different team to answer any lore questions from now on. i really did not like how vg answered them. they were answered in a very 'go down the list' type of way. no reactions from companions, no time to digest the information, no urgency
>>507234572https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1-lZnSak9o
So do we know what the pre Veil world was like now or did Veilguard half ass that like everything else?
>>507234879>REEEEE IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE YOU'RE STUPIDHow about you get some fresh air.
>>507235049That was explained pretty well in Trespasser I thought. You can get a good idea just from the stuff you read about in the Vir Dirthara.
>>507234974Didn't click it lame
>>507235559I think she responds with "I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that." or something along the lines.
>>507235165Go ahead and explain why it's bad making good and smart points. I have an open mind. It's just that I've never seen it before. And I have seen stupid people making that argument many times.
Morrigan is a stinky swamp witch, Leliana is French, Alistair slept in dog kennels, Sten was trapped in a cage for days, Oghren is Oghren. The DAO camp is stinky.
>>507237315There is a reason HoF ghosted them after DAO, and didn't even bother writing to anyone but the Inquisitor
>>507234307The thing that sold me on her as a character was the conversation you have once you get to Skyhold and she kind of challenges you with skepticism like "Do you think this 'Herald of Andraste' thing is all bullshit or not? What is your angle?" and it's more blunt than what say, Giselle says to you. And reveals that she is actually kind of shook up about it all and what she believes and how the ramifications of it all being real make her feel. I told her I need naysayers like her to keep me honest and she liked that.
>>507075637Amo', I don't know if you are Italian or not, but if you are, you're out of your mind. Viago and Teia are not Italian names; Illario is spelled wrong (it should be "Ilario", no idea why anglophones need to add more letters to everything); "Don" is not a name, but a title (it derives from "dominus"), and it was first used in Spain, influencing South Italy only later.Antiva has always been a weird mix between Spain and Italy: Spanish accents and Spanish names for people, but Italian names for places (see Rialto Bay and Treviso) and curses ("pezzo di merda", "stronzo" in the book). Bioware never bothered being more precise with it, while you can see Ferelden is clearly Scotland-inspired and Orlais is basically France + masks.Lucanis however is definitely Latin-sounding and we know that Tevinter and Antiva have nothing to do with each other. They are not the Roman Empire/Italy equivalent you believe they are, they're two distinct realities with very distinct cultures in Thedas, so him having that name doesn't make any sense. At most, he should have been called "Luca" like another anon said or "Luciano".
>>507241595Maybe his mom was a tevinter chuuni and wanted to give her son a vint name
The other thing about Sera that you may not have known is that you can get a lot of her vibe and character development from reading her book that's right by her spot. It updates throughout the game. It's like they didn't wanna have more scene and dialog allocation for her and she was written by Lukas Kristjanson who wrote all the codex entries so he was like fuck it I'll make her a diary I can update.
>>507242759anon, inquisition came out 9 years ago. what you're saying isn't anything new
>Both the elves and the dwarves claim that there was once a time when humans did not walk the land.[1] There is no mention of a time when the Veil didn't exist in human history.[2] The Chantry teaches that the Maker created the Veil before He created men.[3]>Some scholars believe that the first humans in Thedas came from the rainforests of Par Vollen many thousands of years ago, migrating south from the archipelago. The pyramids they built still stand to this day and are regarded by travelers to the region as true wonders.[4] Elven lore also states that humans first arrived in Thedas around -3100 Ancient[5] from Par Vollen to the north.[6]To be honest, I remember pretty clearly the games (especially Inquisition) implying that the humans appeared in Thedas when the elves were already weak due to the Veil. The Masked Empire also confirms they couldn't have survived in a world without Veil, so they must have landed on the continent only after its creation. Even the artbook confirms this: only spirits and dwarves existed at the beginning, with no human in sight. So either Bioware worded Solas' line incorrectly/not clearly (the infamous "I do not wish to look human" or something like that) or they forgot their own lore.
>>507243687I'm talking to the anons who have always hated Sera and never gave her a chance so for them this may actually be new information.
>>507243850>they forgot their own lore.Its probably this
>>507243850The magical and wonderful and based and genius thing about Dragon Age is that all the lore is given to you diagetically from biased, fallible and unreliable sources. Taking anything "claims" made by anyone about anything in the game at face value is foolish.
>>507244404By the way I'm not saying this to defend the "I do not wish to live as humans" thing. In that case I agree that Epler probably had no fucking idea that there was even a debate about when and how humans existed before the Veil and they probably didn't discuss it at all during development.
>>507234879>when you explain your reasons for disliking it you're just going to reveal you're stupid>>507236632>I have an open mind.Yeah, no. It's just a waste of time, you have already made up your mind.
>>507234307I hated Sera with a burning passion in DAI but I'd take her in a heartbeat over absolute shitty dumpsterfire characters like Bellara.
>>507246560Elper said that Bellara has ADHD just like him which is why she is like that. He essentially created his waifu with the character. so much like how taash is weekes' mouthpiece, so is bellara to elper
>>507246560Sera makes sense for the universe. A stupid ignorant city elf whos afraid of things she can't understand. Bellara is a mess of ideas shoved together.
Just started DAO, my character is a human white male noble rouge. Best skills for this class?
>>507247632Dual Wield first and second row. Specs Assassin and bard with Song of Courage or Duelist if you have Lel in the group all the time.
>>507237315Alistair canonically smelling like shit is really funny. Even Wynne jabs at him for it.
>>507245997Good excuse, good excuse
>>507245997>>507248004can't we all just get along?
>>507248245I honestly just think if he truly believed his idea was good it wouldn't matter what I thought and he would share it for everyone to judge.
Since Morrigan has Mythal in her, does that mean she now have romantic feelings for Solas. Is this another cucking?
>>507249243Mythal never had romantic feelings for Solas. Despite that, they still fucked.
>>507248245no
>>507249448And the dumbass egg never realized it?
What’s the appeal of Josephine exactly?
>>507251082Let me expand on my headcanon a bit. I personally think, in the interactions between them we see in memories and in present day, she did not have romantic feelings for him. If she ever had them at any time, I don't know and concede it's possible. What I think what happened is her taking advantage of his infatuation and feelings for her to manipulate him, and that would include with sex once he had a body. If he ever realized that in particular? I dunno, probably. It probably was hurtful but not as big a deal to him as her never supporting him ever in the things that actually mattered.
>>507249448lmao
>>507251117she is very nice to your inquisitor, her accent, lips, and style of dressing
>>507251117Shes very sweet and nice.
>>507251595>What I think what happened is her taking advantage of his infatuation and feelings for her to manipulate himTo what end?
>>507252445>To what end?For him to be an instrument of her will. Did you play the games or...?
>>507252632Ok let me rephrase, what was she planning to do with him?
>>507253276I don't know if she had any "plans" I just think she wanted a loyal companion
wrap it up boys
prevent blight, wrap it before you tap it
How can the IP be salvaged after Veilguard?
>>507257956Remaster of Origins that lets it run stable on modern machines. No content changes just texture and performance upgrades and maybe some tasteful QoL stuff. I don't think that will salvage the IP but it's the last thing they could do to take a bit of the bitter disgusting taste out of the mouths of fans before the IP dies forever. And I don't even think that is possible because they've already said as much. Anyone who had any clue about Origins technical details is long gone.
>>507257956pivot to tabletop with the Origins setting
>>507257956We can't get rid of EA so return the game to a real rpg with grit. Get new writers who understand the DA setting instead of whatever the current writers did with VG.
>>507257956Change genres. Tell stories from before the dragon age
>>507257956You can realistically squeeze one more game set in the gap between DAI and DATV.
>>507259207I always thought what were they going to once the dragon age is over. Blessed Age Origins my favorite game.
>>507258303They can't, no one at Bioware knows the Aurora engine lol.
We're at bump limit.
Somebody bake the next bread, I can't post images
>>507260584y, what u do
next loaf >>507260516
>>507260650ip range ban on images. its mega gay
>>507257956Take it away from Bioware
>>507226413>>507228985>>507231938>What was OVER explained? I haven't heard that argument from anyone. I mean there's people mad that "it was elves all along" but those people are retarded and always have been.The funny part here is that you are both extremes of the Bioware-Audience at the same time yet are too dumb to tell.
