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>New Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3645467
>Week 2 Twitch Drops - Temporal Lord's Portal Effect
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3591907

>Launch Live Updates
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3594080
>Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212

>Buy Early Access Key
https://pathofexile2.com/purchase
>FAQ
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981

>Trade Site
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2
>Ladder
https://pathofexile2.com/ladders
>Wiki
https://www.poe2wiki.net
>Game Database
https://poe2db.tw
>Ingame Chat Channel
/global 1488

old >>507040213
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just nutted to some asanagi i'm logging in
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why the fuck does bone soldier staff need strenght fucking dumb shit fucking retard game
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>>507066113
roguelikes have more novel interactions due to how rare some of them are but they are still easy to immediately make sense of. The systems in Path of Exile are unironically more complex. I have truly never felt the same aha moments when I solve a build problem in PoE than playing the hundreds of hours I have in ToME
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d4 bad
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Just got 600% mf and it's insane the currency drop rate
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>>507066492
TRVTH NVKE
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>>507066543
liar
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Poop

Of

Excrement

2

Debate me. You won't.
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>>507064859
>>507064895
>>507064940
>>507065053
So which one is it? Everyone saying different shit, seems like you just don't know yourselves
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Repostan. Just completed my first t16 map. I like the endgame, but it just feels like more of PoE 1 with larger maps. It doesn’t fit the vision of PoE2 completely. A t16 map retains the same difficulty and slowness of the PoE2 campaign with the floor effects and death effects and bullshit one shots of PoE1. The elements clash and it just doesn’t feel good. The bosses are really good however

I played an Infernalist witch and when I reroll, should I go warrior or monk?
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>>507066616
trialmaster shield + rarity find sockets bro, same with the chest that has billion sockets
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>in end game you have to copycat every streamer build to kill the bosses before they can do anything
>this is a good game design by the way
Retards will defend this shit.
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Does the % to rarity find work better in lower tier waystones?
What I mean is, wouldnt you be swimming in currency more with high magic find in a T4 with high level gear than in a T12 map since you can clear T4s faster?
Higher tier only seems to affect the weapons and armor but not the currency I think
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>>507066543
guarantee i get more drops being able to run giga-vaaled t18s than an mf stacker that has to run blue t15s
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mf is not real mf is not real mf is not real
mf is not real mf is not real mf is not real
mf is not real mf is not real mf is not real
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>>507066671
rarity affects currency in poe2, the tool tip literally says it you can read it in game. the more rarity you have the higher the chance regals turn into exalts and exalts turn into divines. rarity is absolutely fucking broken in poe2 it shouldn't exist it's objectively the best stat in the game.
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>>507066671
in poe 1 iir only worked on items, not currency, chests, div cards.
in poe 2 iir works on items and currency. idk if they've said anything about div cards yet, but i doubt it will have any impact.
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>>507066717
Monk is melee done right (semi ranged melee thoughever kek.)

>>507066671
Rarity affects currency drops. If it works like PoE 1 it won't affect waystone drops but you still need to stack it or you'll be poor.
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>tell streamers they can design their own div cards by opening the cuck box
>release the game with no div cards
lmao
no swords
no templar
no duelist
no div cards
no endgame
dead game
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will they have ladder reset in early access?
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They should've deleted rarity
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>>507066871
Yes but getting to the state of T18s to farm means getting lucky with waystones and having supremely godly items compared to just playing T15 maps where the investment is not as high
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I fucking hate this shit like you wouldn't believe
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>go through a huge shitstorm over MF in PoE1 last league
>repeat the same fucking mistake in PoE2 and make it EVEN WORSE
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>>507066150
Should probably stop calling 4 day old patch notes "new patch notes".
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HOLY POE2 LOOT EXPLOSION
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>new templar is young

excuse me? did i miss something?
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>>507067263
Yes there will be fresh starts as early access goes on.

>>507067305
Everyone in the entire world agrees except Chris (RIP) and Jonathan so we're stuck with the garbage we got.
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Nerf the trials
Get off christmas vacation and nerf the trials
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>>507067386
>grenades
Oh no no
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Any handheld bros here?
Can PoE 2 run on a steamdeck? I'm thinking of picking one up for myself as a kind of self-reward for making it through another year. Being able to relax on a hammock while doing a few maps would be cozy.
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>>507067417
bald retard learned his lesson but the haired one still has a long road ahead
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>>507067245
>release the game
?
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>>507067465
#lootget
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I honestly don't think this game will be done in less than 2 years. The end game system doesn't match the campaign playstyle at all
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>>507067656
THERE’S BLOOD IN THE BOX
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Great Game. But as a Casual Player, I’m done for now.

Endgame is where it lost me. After an amazing experience through the campaign I found myself growing uninterested as I started clearing maps. I was new so i was excited to get into the endgame, Seeing the new map layout and the atlas tree I was keen to get into it, but as I was clearing map after map, tier after tier I found the experience to be the total opposite of the campaign. It wasn’t engaging, it wasn’t fun and rewarding, instead it punished you more and rewarded you less. It felt like a true slog, clearing multiple tiers with these giant maps without any checkpoints and getting little to nothing but also when you die once and you lose XP, map progress, the waystone. Just didn’t feel like the punishment fit the crime and i’m told that it doesn’t get any better as you continue through to higher tiers.

So in saying that, that’ll be me for now. Again Loved the game, the foundation of it is incredible and so it’s only up from here. It’s only EA so i am excited for the future of this game and where they’re headed. I have to believe Endgame isn’t complete and they will be balancing the ratio between punishments and rewards or making the experience less of a slog making people want to play and jump into another map instead of sighing knowing not much is going to come of clearing those maps or dying and losing a bunch of stuff. Hoping more features and encouraging components are added and I trust that it will.

Thanks!

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>>507067526
IMO the 4th trial should be the difficulty of the 3rd trial. It's a core part of a character and not aspirational content. If you want to have aspirational rewards in that content have special drops for running uber hard versions of it.
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>rarity stackers
>dont get white bases to chance into 100div items
>more blue maps than white maps which uses more currency to roll well
>no high level white bases to essence
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>>507067739
why would they try to craft things when they can just make raw divine with rarity you fucking retard
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why do i, a fucking mage caster necromancer need STRENGTH to use a fucking BONE SUMMON STICK
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>change to ice monk
>game is fun now and im strong
yeah fuck lightning
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>>507067357
>rarity gear
>investment not as high
???
you only need life/res, the rarity stackers need god items
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>Alva dosent gamble in hideout
>gambling caps at 79
>A3 past vendors ilvl caps at 70
>hideout ilvl caps at 60
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>>507067817
Because scepters are in the STR/INT side and it turns out Templar/Druid is the REAL minion class
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>>507067662
If it releases in 2025 it will be a miracle. Possible winter release next year if they continue ignoring PoE 1 all of next year.
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how much hp do i need to facetank the act 3 monkey slam?

i can confirm that 950 hp + 538 es is not enough
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What the fuck is the point of the command minions button? Like if you press it ONCE they will run to the point and just afk. Like if you decide to use it you have to constantly spam it to make the minions follow you or else they stay afk million miles away
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>>507068013
How about you roll away?
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>>507067904
Does your tree or links change any from the conversion to cold?
I'm really not having a fun time with my lighting bell ringer, even if it does slaughter everything. I'll happily take a tradeoff of raw deeps in favor of qol
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>>507067904
Ice strike feels so fucking good to use with the low range flicker like effect.
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>>507067719
Despite being a reddit post, I agree. The endgame should be different from the campaign, but the difference in PoE2 is too much. The endgame should be “campaign, but more shit to do.” The endgame right now is “The campaign areas but it’s still just PoE1 all over again”
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Does anyone else's atlas lack connections? I'll be going in 1 direction, since apparently that's the best way to find citadels, and then there's a void without any more maps to go to unless I take like 20+ maps for a long way around. This happened to me three times now and it's too fucking annoying.
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>>507067812
you probably get less than one divine average daily with 500 rarity over somebody with no rarity
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>>507067719
Understandable.
flat -10% is omega dogshit.
It would be ok if xp progress wasn't that slow but desu it kinda ruins the will to push a character to lv100.
This game design is utterly fucking retarded.
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>>507068214
it must be nice being so ignorant
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>>507068013
hit space
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>t1
>surely it gets better in t2
>t1
>surely it gets better in t2
>t1
>surely it gets better in t2
>t1
>surely it gets better in t2
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Literally free third ascension, your complainers lost
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>>507067948
do we even have a list of modpools and required ilevels? 79 might be enough for some shit
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>>507067978
Yea, we're basically stuck with this beta access for a while.
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>>507067946
What about damage though?
Its always the weapon that is the hardest to get so you actually have a chance against those enemies
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>>507068310
LOL WTF
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>>507068168
They can use the same exact tree but i would say Ice wants way more attack speed.
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>>507068268
>>507068143
rolling away is for pussies
how much do i need to tank this fucker toe to toe
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>>507068386
>>507068310
4th one too, FREE
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>Spent all day mapping from level 66 to 75
>In T11s
>Feel like I made 0 fucking progress except for getting a new weapon
Bruh
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>>507067904
ice for engaging adrenaline gameplay
lightning is for min-maxing autist who like to absent-mindlessly sweep the whole map with storm wave like they're playing a janitor simulator
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>>507068310
>3th
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>>507068310
I'd pay 40ex for 4th ascendancy ngl. I don't care enough about this shit version of PoE to grind out a character that can do it.
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Does increased rarity effect gambling?
Is gambling just better than doing maps?
How do I minmax gold farming?
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>>507068602
this is not a human woman
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>>507068310
>saar very good 3th assand pasif points for you very fast only40 exal orb
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>>507068537
>>507068435
Oh dayum guess I'm gonna 4/4 after all.
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strongboxes take too long to do so I skip them
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>>507068602
big boobies :D
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>>507068310
>3th
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is there a way to get low lvl skill gems? or derank uncut ones?
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>>507068441
if you have gathered exalted or divine orbs then look for trading site to upgrade gear,. but mapping is a bit boring right now. they need to figure out it for full release make it more addicting and rewarding. like guaranteed unique drop 50% chance for each map, team pvp possibly, cow level type place etc
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At what point is a scammer scamming themselves?
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>>507068263
retard.
saw somebody do rarity stacking for a few days and they MAYBE got 1 more exalt than what i was doing per map. no divines, no crazy uniques, nothing special at all.
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>it has a great foundation, just needs more work
>it has great core endgame, just needs more endgame content
>moment-to-moment gamepley is so good, just needs balancing
>just needs time
these are all the exact same things people were saying about last epoch when it came out, and that turned out so well didnt it
its over before it even started
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>>507067882
Wtf is Anakin doing
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>>507068918
youre retarded and ignorant
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>>507068851
yes, the trade site
good luck
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anyone know where lower level spirit gems drop
I accidentally leveled up one of mine and can't take off some equipment due to requirements
looking for X-XII range spirit gems
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>>507068956
are you a bot? for how long are you going to post the same thing?
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>>507068956
no one gave 2 shits about last gaypox besides the people being paid to play it
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>>507068974
stop watching empyrian videos and pretending every solo player gets that much
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Huntress when? Need actual fun weapons to use. Maces are gay as fuck.
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>>507068297
you know you can skip t1 maps if you really want to?
just start running whatever tier map you want
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>>507068879
>+134% ele dmg!!
>no ele dmg roll on the weapon
please no one tells him
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blaze it, eheehehee
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>>507069217
youre gay retarded and ignorant
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>>507067973
Another thing I dont get is currently i have a scepter that gives me level 3 skeleton warrior but my skill gem is level 5 and that requires int. so do i even need the scepter at all? should i replace it with an energy shield thing?
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>>507069115
It's true though, everyone copes about early access and then years later the game is hardly changed.
Do you think rollslop is magically going to go away? Do you think the endgame won't turn into a carbon copy of poe1? What was the point of the rolling and slowed down "thinking mans" gameplay of the first act when the game turns into a zoomfest before you even get to maps?
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>frogposting bad

how to spot a poe 2 tourist
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this thread is filled with actual children with sub 80 IQ and you can't convince me otherwise
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>>507068967
Secret jedi training
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>>507068956
>moment-to-moment gamepley is so good

it's not really. the maps are too narrow in general. there arent diablo 2 type maps like act1, act2 or cow level that are full empty with mob packs and zero nawwor points

space bar rolling constantly and needing to keep moving all the time as a caster or ranger to avoid being hit by ranged mobs is bad gamepaly too. it would be more enjoyable to isntead shoot mobs at distance like in d2 amazon. they need to also zoom the camera out like 25%
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>>507069383
you're right, path of exile, the game that has famously never changed at all
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>>507069337
holy crap
but poeg told me the game was already dead and buried?
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>>507069337
only a 30% drop after two weeks.
That's pretty good.
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>>507069383
We already have definitive examples of PoE1 in early access vs PoE1 today.
The entire basis of your argument is flawed.
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>>507068873
>if you have gathered exalted or divine orbs then look for trading site to upgrade gear
My luck has been abysmal. I got exalts but nothing I can get with them is really any better than what I currently use. I can probably push on to T15s but it's kind of boring
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>>507069335
yes my eslfriend i will do no tells to him
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Has anyone ACKSHUALLY done a 0% rarity vs. 100%/200%/300% rarity test to see what the actual difference is? Fubgun and Snoobae usually do shit like that.
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>>507069427
>children with sub 80 IQ
They're just turdworld brownoids/slavs, most of them are pushing 40.
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>>507069647
i mean u can just watch fubgun doing max rarity
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>take 20 hp quest way back in act 1 without thinking about it
>character is now significantly worse
real fucking neato
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>>507069647
Not akchshually, but it seems to be incredibly overpowered.
All of my currency drops have improved significantly since building rarity.
The game right now is as bad as d2 mf
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>>507069515
>needing to keep moving all the time as a caster or ranger to avoid being hit
anon says that clicking more than 2 buttons to avoid being hit is too hard and thats bad gameplay
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>watching all the casuals turn on the game
>it's all the same complaints they were getting for a decade
Tick tock, Jonny boy. You can't hide away behind the holidays forever.
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>>507068956
The saddest trvth nvke is that Last Epoch is a far superior product to PoE 2 and yet it went extinct all the same. PoE 2 has more RMT company investment so it will last longer but if they don't improve it soon it's gonna fall back to PoE 1 levels of players.
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did they really remove tujen and gwennen's purposes? the fuck
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>unique boots drop
>inherent +10% movement speed
>100% more likely to be affected by ailments
>but +20% movement speed when affected by an ailment
>look at the boots I'm wearing
>+30% movement speed modifier with no downsides and good resistance rolls

Yeah somehow I'm not thinking this unique really has a niche
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>>507069427
Wait until the game is actually free lol it's going to get worse
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This game feels awful in SSF
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>>507066150
seamless switching when
I hate inventory fiddling with controller man
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>>507069515
>the maps are too narrow in general. there arent diablo 2 type maps
As someone new to poe this part boggles my mind. I always hear about how GGG was inspired by diablo and wanted to make their games in the spirit of diablo. And then I am asking why the fuck am I spending 70% of my time in tiny dark underground tunnels? This doesn't remind me of diablo in the least except for one small hellish area in act 2 that no one liked. Why is everything so cramped? Why can't we get the lush spread open green areas that I remember? I enjoy fighting monsters much more when I have room to move around. Why won't they let me do that?
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>>507070008
So don't play SSF
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>>507069835
Epoch died on release when they ignored beta player bug reports of gold duplication at the same time they released a gold-funded auction house.
It never recovered.
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>>507070008
Only if you play maps. It feels pretty cozy in campaign.
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even worse, they just made tujen like rog? idk
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OH GOD IM GUNAN STOOOOOSTAIN
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>>507069627
?
you need some refresher courses on english or something?
or maybe you burgers invented some new grammatical retardation that you now think is standard?
or maybe just pajeet idk
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>>507069567
people are legitimately playing this game. It has a bit of FOTM in it but all the people who ever played PoE 1 and enjoyed it but didn't come back for other leagues have come home to roost
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>>507069537
The game is only ever going to get easier and faster over time. There is no way they will commit to their vision they are already backtracking.
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>>507069337
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>>507070008
It really does. I'm trying to force it but the game is clearly balanced around it's massive playercount and the ability to trade. Do yourself a favor and play as the devs intended, with their tradesite available on alt+tab
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>>507070103
WOAH WHOLE 3! MAPS??
THAT MEAN 3 MORE EXALTS???
WOWIEE THANK YOU JOHN EXILE!
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>>507070102
no free divines for you
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>>507070303
its ok rog crafting still can be cool
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>>507070223
>The game is only ever going to get easier and faster over time
except when it didn't and chris literally stop interacting with the community because of the backlash
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>>507069382
The scepter gives you free minions and a bunch of spirit.
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>>507070048
just roll bro, why do you need wider maps?
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>>507070331
>armor/er
hope you are making some funky witchunter build, otherwise 1regal shard bwo
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>>507070408
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>>507070494
Ill give your mom 1 regal shard
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https://streamable.com/hkcjfm

Understandable, have a nice day.
T8 map with max resistances and 2k hp.
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>>507070601
now show us your chaos res
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>>507070601
multi proj is no joke with no pdr
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>>507070483
i still can't believe it's fucking real
true early access i guess
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I'm not a crossbowerer so I have no idea whats good about this, how much would this be worth?
I got like 40+ trade requests in the span of 10 seconds after putting this for trade
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>>507068432
>if you roll you need 0hp to survive!
>"NO"
ok
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there's no documentation on enemy resistances, what the fuck do the icons mean and which symbol means what?
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delete trade
delete magic find
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>>507069335
It says with attacks though
Aren't attacks basically anything that isn't a spell?
So it would work on your gems as long as they are not spells
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>>507070686
high phys and an open prefix.
i'm guessing an omen crafter could make a lot of currency from that.
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>>507070686
at least 3 divs
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>>507069835
I miss the skill trees, it felt like I had so much creative control over how my skills worked. The gems just don't feel as impactful, most of them barely do anything and so many of them punish you as if you need that because 25% attack speed would be soooo gamebreaking if it didn't cut out your kidney in trade.
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>>507070671
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>>507071050
>max res
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>>507070601
most defenses don't do anything in this game. you have to play as a glass cannon
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>>507070817
you people are so dumb. just do a little bit of critical thinking and you'll figure it out, champ
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>>507069930
They came up with the uniques on a napkin during a drunken new years party and just went with it. They are the most boring and uninspired shit I have ever seen. Unironically D4 mogs the shit out of them in that one area.
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i'm looking at this last epoch game and it looks like shit
no wonder it died
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>game is still #1 global top seller
how
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>>507071196
d4 bad
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>>507071196
If last epoch was in the PoE2 engine with PoE2 graphics, it would be the most successful ARPG.
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>>507071330
poe2 good
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>>507070804
literally no one in the thread can answer the question
you are ALL glass cannons
i'm going to figure it out and report back
and call you a bunch of pussies again
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>>507071369
It has no endgame. No bosses. And the gameplay itself feels janky and scuffed.
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>>507071486
Sounds like PoE2, except for the no bosses bit
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>>507070008
played through the campaign as ssf, loot is pretty rare though
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>>507071562
delusional little diablotard
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>>507070601
those are armor mobs btw
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>>507071196
I started hardcore on last epoch and never died once and got to level 80, it's just really simple and streamlined poe
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>>507071196
If the werebear form was just a bear and not temporary I'd still be playing
Hoping they let me stay shapeshifted in town when they introduce the skills to poe2
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>>507071149
then why were people telling me to get good and do a better build when i said i die in one hit to a boss
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>>507070601
playing melee taught me that running straight into an open room in an area with lots of ranged crap is going to end like this
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i wanna turn into a bear NOW
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>Pick areas of burning ground on a map
A grave mistake.
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If I corrupt a skill gem, can I increase its quality afterwards?
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Alva gamble and some slams. Could've been better of course but these are some nice stats.
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>>507071887
I want to play a woman melee character.
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>>507071990
Nyo you can't do anything except raising the level with uncut gems.
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Why are unique items so useless.
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>>507071330
We keep telling you, the content in EA was not made for poe1 players. It was made for casuals and soulsloppas who have never touched poe1 before in mind. That's why there is a disconnect between the posts here and the charts.
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>>507072025
just play melee sorc
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>>507066232
His mangas definitely inspired GGG when they designed Vaal
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BIG SHIT
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>gotten 2 perfect jeweller's in 24 hours
not bad
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>>507072025
>he can't make a good melee witch
skill issue
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>>507072161
DIE
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>No Roadmap of update releases
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>>507071794
because you're supposed to kill it before you die to it
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>>507071185
>Unironically D4 mogs the shit out of them in that one area.
doomies aren't even trying
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is this goob, it seems kinda bab
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>>507072254
Kinda shit. If you're a warrior you can easily get max block without it.
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a quick price checking tool would be nice but what's the problem with overwolf and why does everyone hate it
or at least reddit does
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>>507072217
>expecting this during Christmas break
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heard its the same game but slower bros, is this true?
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>>507072235
>no argument
I accept your concession.
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>>507072102
What skill?
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>>507066150
>Farming a previous zone to act 3 final boss because I need boots with movement modifier
>Barely 10 minutes in and it drops unique and rare boots at once unique with 10% extra speed and the rare with 20%
What were the chances?
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>>507072393
There's 2 other than overwolf that are much better
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time to get that fourth ascendency
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How is Bloodmage? I feel like playing one but I don't know what kind of build to make.
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>>507072442
It's d4 but not bad.
It's Last Epoch but not bad.
It's Grim Yawn but not bad.
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>>507072442
That's only true when playing the Campaign
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>11 energy shield
>Chance on bleeding to ignite yourself equal to your energy shield regeneration
>You cannot gain frenzy charges while under 32% mana
>Cold damage is now lucky on critical hits
>11% movement speed over chilled ground
>You have no fire resist
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>>507067494
I know it's hard for people to accept, but Templar took a vacation, found love and isn't coming back.
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>>507072393
its bloat/spyware nobody needs
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>>507072497
When you hit certain level thresholds certain stats drop more ofen
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>>507072082
>yo chat thats not cool alright? because my job depends on it
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>>507072442
Combat feels better
Bosses are a straight improvement
Nice graphics
Only downside is the oversimplifaction of some systems but I'm liking it more than 1.
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>>507072503
oh
would you please feed the baby?
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>>507072025
quin69 bleed witch
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>>507072464
the cool one
;)
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>>507072704
Pause faggot thinks he's playing hc properly
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>>507072792
It was a garbage glass canon build that got oneshot by a white mob in a white map.
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>>507072457
here is the d4 version of one of the most iconic uniques from diablo 2.
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>>507072820
Liek, the one that does colds damage u mena?
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>>507072792
>need 4 uniques
yeah....no
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>>507067948
what's even the point of gold in the endgame
I have a like a million gold but there's nothing to use it on
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Out of all the maps burial bog and sandpit is my favorite
It's the only one without any retarded corners, pretty much just a circle
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i want to play incinerate but the fact there isn't a single minute of endgame footage of it is worrying
i imagine if it was usable at least ONE (1) guy would have have uploaded a map clear or something
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RELEASE DUELIST NOW
FUCKING RETARD DEVS
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Im doing it. I refuse to grind like a slave.
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>>507072918
no i mean the one that you think is pretty cool
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>>507073110
>paying in some open beta
nigger, just give me the money
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>>507072897
It's amazing in d4, one of the most sought after pieces of gear that makes you much stronger.
There are no uniques in poe2 that even come close, 99% are useless trash. It's a fucking joke and anyone saying otherwise is just lying.
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>people complaining about not being able to sustain maps
>same people don't know you can just BUY maps from doritos man
>can reforge 3 of them to go up a tier up until red maps
why are people dumb?
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>>507073110
don't feed the chinks dude they ruin everything
also it's not worth it
but mainly don't feed the chinks
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>>507072760
Exiled exchange 2 and sidekick poe or something
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>>507072082
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY BASED
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I earnestly don't expect doomies to understand that uniques being niche and bad in most circumstances is infinitely better than uniques being generally strong but boring. You see it all the time where a 1c unique turns into a divine overnight because some streamer decided to make use of it.
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>>507073192
the only people who can't sustain maps just die in them over and over. it's entirely a skill issue
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>>507072926
uhhh that was an hcssf build
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>>507073219
>it's not worth it
this item is genuinely worth $400+
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>>507073012
paak hc was playing it in hcssf last week. i got the impression that it wasn't the best skill.
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Those vaal doryani elite archer fucks that set up clusters of electric balls that chain NEED TO FUCKING GO like yesterday

Every vaal factory has my heart going from 50 to 150bpm every other fight when my hp just disappears suddenly
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>>507073110
Yk it's useless once first wipe/league hits right
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>>507066660
When does this get funny? In 100 more threads?
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>>507066871
are we acting like juicded maps are hard? you dont lose that much stacking rarity, the endgame right now is just fitting rarity in your gear :)

Ingenuity + ventors rings then put 3 10% rarity soul cores in this bad boy and you get hundreds of mf already
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>>507072442
the game isn't slower at all during the endgame, you're just severely limited in your movement speed to move through the map
I onetap white packs with ice strike and 1shot rares in t8 with a falling thunder as monk
time spent in combat vs moving around is like 25-75 for me
gear I use isn't even valuable at all
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Do you play Staff or Wand+Focus with stormweaver?
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I love spamming trash maps, going in 1 direction on the atlas and hoping to find a citadel. I love this gameplay.
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>>507071869
I played titan before swapping to merc. Didnt look back since. Nades arent true range but they are still miles better than having to go within arms length of the mobs
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>>507073567
Wand+Shield for mapping. Having a shield is insanely strong for survivability.
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is there a good build you can do with this? i tried to do something myself, but some ways in it doesn't really feel good.
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>>507073270
There was a point in the game where this 5c unique was one of the most powerful items in the game, even with bad implicits
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I heard doing Balbala on Cruel and getting the coin can glitch you not being able to ascend for the 3rd time in Cruel? I dunno if that's true though
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does anybody have the Templar page of the art book?
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>fire spells like fireball have shit dmg conversion
>ignite support scattered randomly across the tree, impossible to build for
>almost every mob is fire resistant
why is this element and only this element so shit?
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>>507073182
based and truthnukepilled
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>>507072897
i played d4 beta rogue until lvl17 and it was so hilariously bad i uninstalled even though i was actually looking forward to buy the game, literally every aspect besides the cinematics was bad
played a lot of monk in d3 and since that is now in poe2 im happy
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>>507073852
it's on the melee side so it has to be punisehd
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no templar
no druid
no duelist
no shadow
no huntress

meleebros… when will it be our turn
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>>507071393
well i took my level 48 character to test the monkey and he doesn't do shit
like 500 damage on the 1/10 of slams he actually managed to hit
i guess there's both miss chance and damage reduction when you outlevel the mob by a lot
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>>507074135
Druid is hardly melee
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>>507073752
wait, i was supposed to ascend there (3rd asc)? i still have a quest open but it doesnt complete once i kill her or explore the area fully
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>>507073752
Your first ascendancy is around level 20.
Your second ascendancy is around level 35.
Your third ascendancy is around level 65.
Act 1 Cruel does not drop a level 65 coin but rather a level 40-50 coin.

It's intended behavior. You get your 3rd ascendancy when you're doing maps.
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Noob ranger here, how do I get frenzy charges? The tooltip tells me what they are but not how to get them nor do I know if I even have them.
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Requiring 100+ maps per citadel then offering only 1 try at them is one of the most insanely punishing things I've ever seen in a game. This just fosters the exact opposite of what they want with deliberate, slower combat. No one in their right mind should ever attempt one of these bosses if they don't have a build to 100-0 it within a single stun/freeze. If they don't change this, I know I won't ever "try" one again after failing the only one I've found. I will enter a citadel if and only if I have the millions of DPS needed to not interact with the boss what so ever. Which defeats the entire purpose of it being a souls-like, well built boss. No one will actually PLAY the boss in its intended fashion with the mechanics and the dodge rolling and the interesting things. It's just a DPS test and if you know you don't have the DPS you won't even try. Because the penalty of failure is WAY too high to risk anything.

In poe1 you can reliably farm (non-uber) boss attempts, even in SSF, without too much work. You can fight maven once every 12 maps or so if you can do the higher level invites which drop 3-4 crescent splinters. During those attempts you are at the same time getting fragments for sirus, elder and shaper. With the right atlas you also self-sustain these maps fairly well. So every 12 maps or so you might actually get more than 1 pinnacle fight. Once you're quite strong you're not that time gated to boss attempts. It feels pretty reasonable. And what we have currently in poe2 is just not reasonable.

Bosses should be hard to beat, not a GIANT grind to access. Last Epoch already learned this lesson with their first pinnacle boss was gated behind farming all 10 timelines to a very high level of corruption - a feat 90% of which you are already strong enough to fight the pinnacle boss but can't yet because you need to do a mindless grind to access. They have since made it a lot faster to farm different timelines and added some catchup mechanics and such.
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Anything I can do with this kuso unique in ssf?
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>>507070601
those spitters are genuinely overtuned too hell and back
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>>507074304
how come I can't travel to the trial in Cruel? Once I have the 60+ coin do i just go there on Normal difficulty?
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>>507071786
>Hoping they let me stay shapeshifted in town
GGG showed specifically that when showing off the druid awhile ago
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>>507071486
It objectively has more and better endgame than poe2.
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Is there any major changes I need to make going from tempest flurry to ice strike if i'm already into mostly crit damage / ES on the tree? My gear is added lightning/cold damage.
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>>507074742
>6 billion bears plus annoying glittery MTX and singing goblins
Great.
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>>507074725
yea
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>>507074304
So I'm gonna have to stay at a 3% max hp ascendancy until maps fuuuuug.
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>endgame is just do this map 10 times
>no bosses in-between that
>tried to progress expedition, didn't get any logbooks
>reach burning monolith
>lol no fighting, good luck finding 3 pieces in fuck-all who knows
i'm done, game isn't even that hard anymore just boring.
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>>507074880
you can avoid all that with one simple trick SSF
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>>507074929
well that's dumb lol. but i guess that's because Cruel is just a placeholder and this won't happen once the game releases
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>>507074446
You get them from a support gem on one of your skills
You can even put it on your auto attack if you want
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>>507074880
hell yeah im hyped for the little boney guys and their instruments
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>>507074880
can't be anymore annoying than warriors with time of need incessantly toggling
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>>507074725
Yeah.
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>>507073723
it's for leveling
qual it, rune it and spray frag rounds until level ~22
i put added cold, martial tempo and execute supports on frag rounds and took attack/skill speed in the tree
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Give it to me straight bros, how much damage am I losing as a minion army infernalist for not grabbing SRS + Flame Wall?
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>>507072082
Incredible the power a single word has over the world.
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>>507074789
not really
good attack speed is pretty nice, makes ice strike flow a lot smoother
big crit % (40%+) so either ice strike or charged staff will crit when you onetap a white mob to make it freeze and explode with HoI
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>>507075047
oh god the fucking tinkling
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why did the reforging bench only appear after i lost all my waystones
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>think I'm done playing until new content gets added
>doing something else
>suddenly think of a new build idea
>back on the beach
GET OUT OF MY MIND JONATHAN
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>>507075096
like over half your single target damage
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>>507074217
You need a coin that drops from area level 60 minimum to get your 3rd set of points. That's from mid A3 Cruel and into maps
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>>507069715
what do you mean? which act 1 choice was this?
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>>507075279
Fuck I guess I can spare the 30 spirit by dropping one reaver
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i don’t know about you but i like mapping, i love mmos and shit, wow, destiny, runescape, borderlands, whatever

i LOOOOOVE grinding mobs and bosses endlessly accumulating loot

i love poe 2
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Oh baby, 10% away from finally capping my chaos res.
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>>507075036
thank you
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Is there any ability that the single biggest damage increase isn't + skill level?
Maybe I'm wrong about this but it feels like if a piece of gear that can have it doesn't have it then it's bordering on worthless.
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Realistically when do you think we'll get our first bit of substantial new content?
New class, new weapon type/skills, new act, end game updates, etc?
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>>507075538
that is a lovely hat
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Playing SSF or HCSSF doesn't solve anything.

The game balance still revolves around trade and MF on gear
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>>507075618
i imagine theyll dripfeed us content updates at the same rate that they usually release leagues. so march is my guess.
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>look at my inventory and stash
>can't easily tell which items are rares, uncommons, or whites at a glance
>need to use some retarded programming language just to sort out rares and items that say "rare" in the text
why can't it just be something like this
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if crossbow has additional lightning damage does that apply to explosive grenades as well? Also, how do I check my crossbow physical dps?
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>>507075618
Hopefully we get end game updates that reduce the Citadel grind a lot and that give infinite boss portals
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>>507072967
gambling on rings and amulets
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>>507075604
it balloons your mana costs so it's better to get your DPS increase elsewhere if you can
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>>507073728
thats cool and all but show us the rest of the gear on your sparker anon
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>>507073110
do it, show the receipt
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>>507075678
the game is balanced around having more than 10 braincells.
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>>507074962
>200 hours of gameplay ssf
>level 92 deadeye
>found one citadel
>50 short of a breach stone
>250 short of a simul
>found one expedition book
yeah the end game needs some help, mapping feels like shit and with no consistent atlas strat it's really boring compared to poe1
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>”How does X thing in the game work?”
>”Have you tried reading the tooltip in the game with the dotted line where the developer for once spent like 150 words describing exactly how it works?”
>”No”
why is the so common on reddit/steam?
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Got my first one after 150 hours
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>>507075745
my guy it's in the name: physical damage per SECOND. take the average of ur physical range and multiply it by your attacks per second.
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>playing bone skills
>unlock corpse explosion
Fuck. It's so good. Is this d2 all over again, where I'll exist for the sole purpose of bone prison, killing a single mob, and spamming corpse explosion?
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Most fun class to go through maps with?
Merc is lame af
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>>507075618
Going to sound a bit doomerish here, but with Tencent involved I imagine whenever they have either
A) new mtx push
B) a specific active player number drops below acceptable levels.
I'm enjoying the game but I doubt that Tencent got involved without having some say or guidelines in the game.
Do wonder if it'll release before Ashes of Creation.
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>>507074072
why are u treating this like the game is fully released there isn't gonna be more endgame content until the game is done just stop playing for a year at this point
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>>507073110
things you can buy for $500
>2 weeks of salmon dinners
>10 other games
>1 pair of shoes in this fucking game's cosmetic shop
>bills
>home decor
>dumbbells
>clothes

what will anon spend it on
>illicit trade with chinks for a fucking single game item

you should be lynched faggot. you're a slave to having gay video game items and dressing up low impulse control monkey brain as some injustice being done to you that you don't have gay video game item
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>>507070008
Not feeling better in Trade, because it's very easy to slip off into currency farm for sake of trading and nothing else
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>can't complete a map because the last boss is in an unreachable location
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Is there some spreadsheet one of you nerds made that has all the potential affixes for each item slot and type?
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>>507075719
>picking up magic and rare items in d4
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>>507076050
i got 2 in 140 hours. 1 after 130, and then 10 hours later igot another one lol
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>>507075678
What does "balanced" mean in the end? That HC and SSF players will progress through the game slower and hit the ceiling earlier? Who cares? Just playing the campaign twice takes as much time as an average $70 vidya if not more.
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>>507076642
poe2db but it's down atm
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>>507074548
it's just a solid defensive chest piece you can put it on any evasion character basically
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What in the name of the racism is this
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I'm once again playing the game of "an item I want just got listed 1 minute ago but if I dm now they will price it higher". What's the best amount of to wait?
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>>507070008
it felt fine until I was farming t15s, now it feels awful not having enough tablets to chain league mechanics and only having found a single 4 floor sanctum that I failed before the nerf
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>>507076906
Retardation.
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>>507075538
Let's see Paul Allen's tiara.
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>>507076926
Did it after 6 minutes and there's no response. I can already see the reprice coming...
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>>507076926
If it's a niche item wait 5 minutes. If it's a colossally underpriced item just send the DM and hope for the bets.
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>>507077246
I just look for normal names, the second I whisper someone and see that it's in chinese or russian I just move on to the next listing
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>>507073270
So make them strong and exciting?
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Found these on my hc-ssf evasion/ES monk, good times.
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The game needs an auction house with anti-flipping measures. That's it. That's the solution to the game. Just do it. The current trade system was viable when this was just a small gamer base. It doesn't work anymore because the entire thing is just filled with fake sales.
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How do I target farm a unique in ssf? Do I go to act to farm bosses for uniques and then chance orbing?
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im going to die if duelist doesnt come out soon
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>>507077709
But the vision? The challenge? Diablo 2?
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>>507077709
the game needs to be balanced around ssf and forget trade ever existed
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>>507077879
D2jsp is how people traded in Diablo 2 and still do. And you can still trade that way here too. And AH wouldn't prevent it.
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Trial of Sekhemas is the least fun, and most obnoxious thing GGG has ever made. r

honour just straight needs to be removed from the trial.

It feels like im playing a No-hit run in Darksouls, cramped in a tiny room that keeps spawning ranged mobs and other mobs that burrow underground that you cant see. It feels entirely out of my hands whether i complete the trial or not.

i couldnt stand Sanctum in POE 1, and i know im not alone in this. i just cant fathom the decision to make it a core mechanic of the game.

im considering just quitting the game until GGG finds out how to make the game fun.

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>>507075678
>trade
nah I'm good thanks
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>>507077917
The entire point of an ARPG loot hunter is for trade. That's the end game. If you think the game doesn't have an end game it's because you don't understand ARPG loot hunters. If you want to play in a novelty way like SSF, that's fine but that's just a niche thing.
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>>507077709
But anon, you wouldn't feel the WEIGHT.
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>>507078092
>The entire point of an ARPG loot hunter is for trade
lol
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>Items go from 5 exalts to a divine on the trade site
video games
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Do I really have to go back to fucking firefox after a decace? This shit is unbrowseable without 4chanx working
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Instead of Trade, it should be Guild leagues
>can only trade with members of your guild
>if you choose to leave the guild or you get kicked, character is void
>>507077879
This will give Diablo 2 experience(smaller userbase) and will comply with the vision, while completely destroying the bots
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>>507078008
tfw I did it on ALL classes before the patch and had zero issues
literally git gud
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>>507078168
Laugh all you want, it always has been and always will. Newcomers like yourself won't be able to change it or pretend it away. Trade is the point of an ARPG loot hunter and has always been the end game.
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>find great item
>sike it's garbage because it has no rarity
I really fucking hate how they made rarity even more mandatory. If you're farming without enough rarity you're literally putting your balls in a vice and squeezing.
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>>507078092
this is literally not true of any arpg besides poe, not even d2. trade has and will always be a meme in every single arpg.
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Alright, Bonestorm for clear really does feel like shit.
Detonate dead or hexblast? I still want to bone the bosses tho.
Gonna drop the power charge nodes, but should I also respec from the phys bleed ones?
I feel neutered without PoB
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Who wrings Xesht dry after you kill him?
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>>507078272
>8 ascendancy points on all classes
doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt doubt
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>>507078223
>Giving some tranny the power to eliminate hundreds of hours of your effort
Yeah no
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>>507078349
D2 wouldn't have made it past a couple of years If it wasn't for D2JSP. Trade is what kept it alive for so long and what made D2 a cultural icon. Trade is the entire point of games like these. There are peripheral ways to play it like SSF, but that's all that ever will be.
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So I reach t3 maps in HCSSF and... is this the entire endgame? It's just doing maps, maps and more maps.
I remember everyone shat on last epoch because it had shit endgame... but it's pretty much identical to this.
So why does everyone praise the endgame in poe so much?
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>>507078572
i can not imagine ever being this delusional
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As a new Poe/Poe2 player, the current trading system is the worst I have seen in any game. Ever.

I understand how trading works, and have been trading for a little bit now, and have made a decent amount of money & gear for very little cost - but it is extremely predatory.

It is impossible to see what an item (of an EX value, not taking about DIV costs) is usually worth, because items that are higher in quantity have a ridiculous number of bots listing said items for 1 EX, and ignoring players - all while waiting for other players to list for 1 EX to snipe them ASAP to make a huge profit.

How did GGG combat this in POE1? We are in early access and it is already a really big problem. Why is there no Auction House, Grand Exchange - like system in game (outside of currency exchange, which is amazing.) that would completely take out the need of a third party like the website, and stop the spam that heavily manipulates prices?

I know this is obvious to most people, but to people like me who are new, if you are receiving more than 2 messages within 60 seconds, rethink your prices.

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>>507066150
ran out of honour again in trial
fuck this game
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>>507078737
Just to stop getting hit so much
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>normal stellar amulets go for several ex
lmao
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Ok im asking again, why do you have to go to a website outside of the game to trade
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>>507078737
nigga get some honour res
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>>507073553
>gear I use isn't even valuable at all
never ever trust a poe player when they say this
literally seen you niggas call builds that need mageblood to function budget and good league starters
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>>507078872
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2025870
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>>507078704
Name one thing he's wrong about.
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>>507078872
I imagine it's because they saw how popular D2JSP was for Diablo 2. And how convenient it would be to just be able to list things from your stash tab on the website. It worked for a very long time for a smaller community, but this one is too large for it to be viable. They need to go ahead and put an auction house in with some protections against flipping and price fixing which is very easy to do.
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WHY DOES THE SITE KEEP LOGGING ME OUT???
THIS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN POE!!
EVERY TWO HOURS I GET LOGGED OUT
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>507078445
>Banned by Administrator.png
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>>507078440
6 minimum on all
8 on two
it's easy as shit
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>mob bugged out and flew under the map terrain and now I can't complete it
fuck this game
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>>507078934
i genuinely never got the absolute fucking obsession with having mage blood in their build, after using it, it was cool obviously very strong but holy fuck did i not care for it ever again.
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>>507076308
Demonform witch. Just zoom zoom around the map.
You kinda need 3 uniques to make it work though,
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>>507079057
Did you purchase the login bundle?
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>>507079057
it's the same for everyone
probably anti bot/ddos measure
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Can I reforge low level Baryas into 3 floor ones?
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>>507079017
don't think you understand that they have already said if they add an auction house they are gonna reduce the drop rates of literally everything.
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>>507078963
chris is fat and bald
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>>507079291
>You can't
Damn that's fucking gay.
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>>507078963
i'm about to write a manifesto if i have to login to the trade site one more time
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>>507079291
In PoE there's never a way to raise item level, you have to drop it in an area of the right level in the first place
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What does +1 to skills do exactly? Does it count as the next tier of skill? Does it also come with the extra mana costs as well? Can't seem to find much info regarding this, but that's my initial assumption.
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>>507079605
...Why do people keep asking this? What the fuck do you think it would do if not that???
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>>507079326
Well, their ad decision with drop rates doesn't negate the need for an auction house. They should be held to account on drop rates. Either way, an auction house is needed. Jonathan already stated that they're working on a way to buy things out from your stash tabs.
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>>507079017
>they saw how popular D2JSP was for Diablo 2
Chris Wilson sold his near decade old collection of items and forum gold to help fund poe's development. He knows about it. Us not having an auction house is entirely intentional. He's gone on record as saying trade is bad enough for the game's health and streamlining it with an auction house would trivialize every aspect of the game permanently.
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>>507079128
same shit happened to me yesterday too. he could still damage me, of course
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>>507078589
because poe1 endgame has about 10 different chaotic mechanics to take advantage of, as well as like 15 endgame bosses who each have their own extreme difficulty mode as well.

poe2 has 2 of them. Breach. And even then it has only 1 boss versus 4 in poe1. And Delirium.
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>>507079680
Yet they have trade and you can trivialize the game at will all you want already and have been for many years. So might as well just make it not a clusterfuck of annoyance.
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>>507079254
And Ming's are expensive now
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>Warrior can only clear with Stampede now
That is the clunkiest and shittiest shit I've ever seen
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>>507079804
or they just stop working around trade cause it's a detriment to the game and always has been.
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>headhunter equipped
>progenesis allocated
>spamming detonate dead
ONE GAME
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>>507079865
and even then stampede got shat on so it's mediocre as well
warrior overall is extremely mediocre class, at least 90% of the kit is undertuned
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>>507079804
They added trade as a result of fan made trade sites crashing their servers constantly. By making it themselves they were able to fix the unintentional ddos attacks.
They really should stop balancing around a 200k concurrent playerbase though. I'd be all for a permanent SSF mode with increased rates. Then they could do whatever they want for the rest of the playerbase knowing their core game experience is fine in that game mode.
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>died to zarokh at 15% because a stun bomb spawned under me
i just want my fourth ascendency man
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if i mouse over towers while in my hideout i can't see the radius around the tower but it works when i'm in town
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tradefags are gonna trade no matter what the state of trading is they don't care all they want to do is sit in hideout and trade. they are a plague.
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Let's be real, if Blizzard released POE2 in this state they would have been crucified.


People give GGG way too much leeway, 5 years of development for.........this?

Maybe all the budget went to art and design and they ran out of money for actual game development and whoops early access is born.
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>>507079872
The entire point of an argpg loot hunter is trade. That's the endgame. If you don't like trade simply don't do it and live in your own SSF world. Don't bother traders.
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Why did I lose 30 spirit since the last patch?
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blizzard = bad
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>>507080690
t. tft moderator
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>>507079254
This is what I was initially thinking of doing from the start anyway
If I have to farm maps below T12 forever for the uniques I wouldn't mind if it means I can be fast and play with litte attention while I watch some asmr in the background
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>>507080462
What state? The game is very good. Lots of player retention. D4 was shit and still ineptly made.
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Dead game and dead thread.
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>>507078805
>>507078926
I think I'll come back after like level 80
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what does poe2 do better than poe1?
I'll give bosses to poe2. but I can't think of much else. I want to say the new skill system but then I realize that it's more restrictive than before and limits choice/builds unless you pick gemling legionnaire.
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>>507080690
d2 wasn't made around trading, it was just something that existed and people build something around it. arpgs are not made for trading, only poe is and chris himself says it's bad for trading to be this influential, not even the creator of the game agrees with you.
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>>507077813
this but marauder with berserker ascendency
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>>507080963
if you actually made a poe 1 build yourself you will see that they all basically work the same. the warcry build in poe2 has more moving parts than any poe 1 build combined.
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damn casting sparks with wands looks cool af no wonder people pay premium to play with wands
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>>507080690
you don't understand dood, when i'm playin my melee bonker toon the only lootz that drops should be melee bonker gear.
when i'm playin my fireball blaster toon the only lootz that drops should be fireball blaster gear.
ezpz broski.
i hate these faggots more than the retards who guy mindfucked by the harvest manifesto.
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>>507076926
This is partly why I buy into the idea that GGG makes money from either RMT of currency or gear.
Whether people listing a fake price trying to bait others into listing for massive loss or people just never responding, all the issues would be solved by putting the item on an auction of sorts and someone else using an in game menu saying I want that *click buy.
Sellers no longer have to leave maps, buyers no longer have to deal with nonsense. They could even make money by only giving say 3 item slots baseline and you having to MTX buy additional slots for selling.
But if they are already making a cut off RMT to not be shut down or whatever then whatever 1 time purchases the MTX would bring wouldn't match it.
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>>507080969
It doesn't matter what anyone says. Without trade, D2 would have been a niche game for a couple of years and then forgotten. Trade is what kept it alive for 20 plus years and inspired the genre. Every game made in its image relies on trade as the end game. ARPG loot hunters are all about trade.
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rupert miao has been vibeoff past couple of streams
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>>507081128
I have only ever made builds myself in both games and this is the most retarded take I've ever seen in this thread comparing the games yet. Builds have been wildly simplified for PoE2
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>>507081165
they probably make enough money without it these days
but they legitimately used to dupe items and sell it through 3rd party rmt sites
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>first t16 map with boss irradiation corruption and everything
>do map fine
>get to boss
>silver monke
>enter arena, dodge roll first attack, dont have time to roll second, he autoattacks and i die
is the monke actually bugged or do they expect me to somehow have some korean reaction time? how am i supposed to cast hotg for like 2s if i have to lmaododgeroll every second?
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>>507080963
Poe 2 is really just a more primitive poe 1. But that's why it's fun, really. It's kind of like if they released poe classic, only with a fuck ton of qol and updated visuals.
I'm just digging being able to play the game again knowing little about it. It's nice to be a noob again and not having the game already solved for every build imaginable.
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>>507079865
They need to go back to the cutting room floor with the entirety of the mace skill set. 90% of the skills are unreliable. Most builds so far depend on skills that are either fast or don't lock you in place for 4 seconds, and that pretty much rules out more than half the mace skills. I have no fucking idea what they were thinking by designing a game where they expect you to always be moving and dodging and then creating a weapon that keeps you locked in place most of the time.
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>>507078092
>>507078572
terminal brainrot
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>>507080462
The skills and combat of PoE2 is significantly better than D4 at release. The itemization is also significantly better than all the stupid fucking affixes D4 has. The only thing PoE2 needs is more endgame content and to adjust item drop rates.

D4 was $70. PoE2 is free to play. Yet PoE2 right now is in a much more playable and enjoyable state than D4 was at release.
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>>507069337
Grim, imagine playing this dogcrap of a game
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>>507081283
again this is just a wildly delusional take that only someone obsessed with trading can have, this is not based in reality what so ever. especially when the overwhelming vast majority of arpgs are popular with little to no trading. diablo 3 and 4 despite their quality are immensely successful games without trading (d3 ah was literally removed) being omnipresent, grim dawn is a successful game without trading being omnipresent and d2 was an immensely successful game not because of trading but because the game itself was an instant hit. you are fucking retarded these games are not built around trading LITERALLY only poe is, it's the fucking outlier.
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Welp. I really really hope i didn't just brick my boss atlas points progress
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>>507081437
that makes me think about how map bosses getting sped up in any way is not balanced for this type of gameplay. they need to remove hasting for bosses
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>>507081650
>PoE2 is free to play
Poe 2 is a $30 game. It will remain a $30 game for another year or so.
I agree with the rest of your post though. Just wanted to clarify it is not f2p.
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I can't even tell if the doomies are being serious anymore
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>>507081781
oof. don't die next time
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>>507080462
>5 years
Lol
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>>507081518
This poor naive anon will be hitting maps soon
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>>507066150
zaaaamnnn Bex looks like THAT??????????
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>>507081743
>>507081283
and i'm gonna be fucking real, poe2 is not the success hit that it is because of fucking trading no one truly gives a shit about trading, they just want a game where they kill monsters and get loot fuck you and fuck trade kill yourself.
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what the FUCK
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>>507081437
if you're not strong enough to kill a boss before it can do the mechanics, then you're just not strong enough to do that content
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So, are there any decent builds that don't take 20 divs to come online?
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>>507082158
KEK
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>>507081437
Welcome to Endgame. I hope your build has room to get 15-20k ES.
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>>507078008
the only "problem" sanctum has is that the time dude has a little too much hp, which is not that big of a deal honestly, its just funny because every other boss in the game could use more hp
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Diablo 4 2
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>low roll t1 garbage on everything
>finally roll a t7 in a garbage stat
>rest are t1
>shit from act 1 cruel is still better than anything i have found in t7 maps
they really want me to trade, dont they?
gear progression feels like ass
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>>507081602
immediate gratification doesn't make for a very engaging long term gameplay loop.
there is a reason why people who play d4 always complain that there is nothing to do at endgame, it's not because the pit is boring, it's because there is no fucking point in farming anything because the same shit drops endlessly.
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>>507069337
steamchart poster in SHAMBLES
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>>507082121
it's so small...
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>tradecucks complaining
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do you guys even have fun playing this game or is this just a second job to you
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>>507082121
socket and vaal it
hope for 16%+ increases
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where can i look up all the weapon bases?
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>>507069337
And we're back to surpassing marvel rivals by a 20k+ daily margin at that.
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How is your rarity geared stormweaver coming? Are you able to play real PoE2 yet?
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>>507082531
>second job
Uhm you are not one of those wagies right? This is a neet general.
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> Projectile indefinitely follows you
> You have to let it catch up and only then dodge roll
Who thought this is a good mechanic?
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>>507082531
i was having fun until i started playing crit wave monk and now i feel like a janitor sweeping a map and its aids

but if you die on a map, you die for real so i have to play this gay fucking safe faggoty joyless build
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>finally get to stone citadel after hours of tedious mapping in random directions
>save up a bunch of t15 maps because I figure I'll need them to retry the fight
>get in
>die to some off-screen instakill
>that's fine, I figured I wouldn't get it first try, I'll just restart and-
>you can't restart

Yeah alright that a sign for me to take a break from the game. I genuinely cannot imagine the amount of self-hatred you would have to have to search for a second citadel after failing once on the one you found.
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What exactly cause cast interruption? Is it all damage or only stuns?
It pisses me off so much how spellcucking is unplayable unless you use a spastic build with 6 millions casts a second.
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>>507079776
>muh mechanics
It's literally just about killing more mindless spawns
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I am constantly getting mad when I come up with a witch hunter build, start putting it together, then realize that either titan or deadeye would just do it way better.

Fucking hell I don't want to run that shitty campaign again.
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>>507082431
Sorc I made on launch had a level 26 weapon until I hit early/mid maps. That's how fucking garbage the system is
They might as well go back to poe1
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Just dawned on me that the Counts Manor is the tileset from Sanctum in PoE1, the 2nd floor (?). I guess it's obvious because the candle dude is the sanctum floor boss
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>>507081518
>>507081983
the endgame is where the discrepancy between poe1 and 2 glare.
not only does mapping progress feel aimless/non-existent, but the act of mapping reminds you why Poe1 became the way it did.
poe2 will go full circle since the "Philosophy of Slow" can only go ironically in one direction as the game progresses (hint: they won't be making the game slower in the future).
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>>507082545
how does the vaal divine work, does it take current vales and go from 75-125% (or whatever it is) or does it completely reroll the mods with extended roll ranges?
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>>507082530
SSF 4 LIFE

BEST GAME IN GENRE RIGHT NOW
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just get twink gear, why are all of you so fucking bad at this game
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are they gonna add more class and weapon before full release ?
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>bought game
>played for 20 hours
>try to log on today
>"your account does not have access to the beta :)"
>check pathofexile.com
>"your account does not have a beta key :)"
>But Steam says I have it, can't purchase it twice
???
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>>507082531
I played about 40 hours over last week, so yeah.
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>>507083023
thats the plan
like half the game is missing right now
perhaps even more than half
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>>507082121
you need to divine that shit man
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>>507080963
>I'll give bosses to poe2
The ubers are worse than PoE1's. PoE2 can't even make juiced up rare mobs that are threatening right now.
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>>507083023
huntress and druid early February no cap on a stacc frfr
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>>507067719
>it wasnt rewarded unlike campaign
nothing in campaign was rewarding
quests gave less shit than the quests in PoE1
bosses were either piss easy or cancer as fuck and dropped shit
there is nothing good about this campaign
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>>507083023
nope they've decided what we have is more than enough. they're releasing mid june
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does this actually count as thorns damage?
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>>507082530
they will always complain
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>>507082862
baby's first ARPG?
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>>507082431
Yeah I don't get it EVERYTHING fucking rolls t1 tats even when you're lvl 70
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>>507083152
I haven't found the pinnacle bosses yet. Lvl 91.
I can beat the 3+ difficulty t16 map bosses.
Kinda giving up looking for the citadels on the map.
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>>507083330
Get rarity on your gear retard.
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>>507081154
This guy gets it
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>>507083152
there were a lot of campaign bosses harder than the ubers in poe1, the only fight in poe1 that is remotely difficult anymore is uber uber elder and thats only literally because it's 2 niggas. the ubers in 2 just need way more hp
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>>507083416
But he can only get T1 rarity mods.
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>>507082443
Yup
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>>507082960
it can roll anything, so 5 to 16 is possible
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>>507082696
Are you questioning the vision?
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>started a ranger
>equip a bow with a storm rune
>"Hmm... shocking."
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>>507082957
>endgame mapping progress pointless non existent
its clear what you have to do to enter the citadel

i don't understand what you mean with slow this slow that
you can clear maps pretty fast for the game being in early access with only half the classes / skills availiable, even early endgame you can already clear maps in a couple of minutes depends only on what you do, or don't...
do you even play the game ?
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>>507083210
Tbh, if more bosses you killed rewarded stuff like +10% res or HP like the wax boss it would be rewarding.
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>>507083465
That's a start. Get a bunch of t1 rarity mods and a bunch of gear drops with better tiers of rarity mods.
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>>507082431
>>507083330
This is the main thing making loot so unsatisfying in this game. They need to tone down the RNG and make it scale better with level
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>>507083312
>ARPG
let's not kid ourselves, we're playing Vampire Survivors with literally more steps.
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i just finished a tier 13 map and didn't even die, im probably the best poe 2 player in the universe
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>>507083687
this is unironically what doomers and shitters think Path of Exile should be when they could just play Vampire Survivors instead
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>>507083590
>its clear what you have to do to enter the citadel
get lucky? I get that. but luck has no progress.
I said it here: >>507083375
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When will they add claws?
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>>507083687
me when i'm a reductionist
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>>507082531
>OMG you spend so much time training to climb mountains it's like a job to you
I don't think you understand how empassioned hobbies work.
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Monk or sorc?
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>>507083813
This is what PoE2 is like right now though, the second you hit Cruel it becomes DPS or get one hit by shit you can barely react to.
>Get more defenses
Same shit, the only defenses that matter are ES and reses, that's until they realize taking off Life nodes from the tree is retarded and chop off ES nodes as well.
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>>507083980
so whats the problem then?
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>>507083920
sounding a bit defensive there to me chief
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>>507083876
when shadow gets added most likely
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>>507083813
>they could just play Vampire Survivors instead
what do you think poe1 is for?
I'm pissed that resources went into this game instead of poe2.
>>507083889
I'm not wrong with the distillation.
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You retards told me deadeye was the meta, but I'm squishy as fuck and keep dying in high tier maps. Meanwhile infernalists are obliterating this shit. Fuck you.
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>>507079664
Because I also asked if you get the additional costs for those skills as well, something that is actually pretty damn important to consider. Let's also not pretend a ton of systems in this game are vague or barely explained at all.
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>>507084119
>what do you think poe1 is for?
why don't you just play Vampire Survivors? It's literally right there.
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>>507084034
the problem is you're a fag
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>>507084138
Stormweaver is the meta though. Deadeye is a meme.
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>>507084034
The problem is that GGG marketed the game as being more slow and methodical while reinventing the ARPG wheel.
>But it's Early Access
So fucking what, PoE1 was basically a beta test for PoE2 as well, where the fuck has all the experience they gained making that game gone?
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>>507084119
>instead of poe2.
poe1
coming out of heavy mazing
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>everyone and their dog doing pillar of the caged god and spark archmage builds
nice fucking build variety you fucking faggots!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>507083876
There's a non-functional claw tree on the upper left side of the passive tree so it seems to be the druid weapon. Which is odd since that implies it'll be STR/INT
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doomposters swap from poe2 is nothing like poe1 and poe2 is too much like poe1 every fucking day
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>>507084234
>The problem is that GGG marketed the game as being more slow and methodical
No they didn't. Jonathan stated multiple times you would be as fast as a poe 1 character in endgame. And who cares what they "marketed" the game as, did you not grow up in the 90s and 2000s where all marketing was bullshit? Are you retarded enough to believe in MARKETING
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>>507084138
Yeah, fuck evasion. It sucks, especially without any life pool. If you don't avoid the damage you just get 1 shot. Energy shield and armor/hp are significantly better and any class that relies on evasion is just fucked.
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>>507084378
You could've told me you were retarded in less words.
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>>507084138
how the fuck are you dying with 30% movement speed and 30% damage reduction
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How does the Infernalist Demon form interact with CI? Will I lose all hp immediately, not lose hp at all, or lose the written percentage?
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Any chance of a summoner type class that isn't a necromancer? I really like summoning builds and the Witch is cool, but I always liked summons having a bit of a wider range of designs than just "dead person"
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I'm taking absolute advantage of people on the market that stopped 1-2 slams short of a payday off items and I'm loving it
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>>507084195
beat the game. looking for something else to play that's fun that's like that.
you know what a spent force is? that game got spent. it was a fun tour-de-force: building builds, stopping mobs, getting loot, levelling up, progressing the game/meta till the end.
you think I'm evil for asking for a better game...
get fucked
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>>507084342
Hey, as long as it works
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>>507084234
>The problem is that GGG marketed the game as being more slow and methodical
they literally did not do this and have said the game will get crazier as time goes on. they just wanted something of a baseline instead of instantly diving into the powercreep
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>>507084309
I'm going to riot if claws are going to be tied to shapeshifting. I ain't looking to be no furry.
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>>507084138
Your bow sucks bro
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what am I supposed to pick up to sell for currency?
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what do people want 75-78 ultimatiums for?
>>507084526
is there a way to search for open prefix/suffic on the site? i don't see it anymore
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>>507084534
What so is PoE 2 literally Vampire Survivors or is it not?
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>>507084440
Because of the entropy retardation you get a guaranteed hit against you every two or three attacks whenever you are in a tight spot. Meanwhile energy shield builds can just parade through the crossfire without a care in the world.
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>>507083920
video gaming is an addiction, not a passionate hobby
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>>507084526
what's the rate at which the the slam hits the desired mod and tier?
1/8, 1/16, 1/80?
what's your jackpot:brick ratio?
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>>507084516
druid will have animal summons apparently. also warrior has ancestral spirits now, especially "warbringer" ascendency. with that build most damage comes from totems and totem damage is primarily based off of + weapon skills so its a relatively cheap build.
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The problem with doomies is that they lost their coordinated effort early on in PoE 2's success so now they all just say conflicting things. PoE 2 is too much like PoE 1. PoE 2 is not enough like PoE 1. 2 is too fast. 2 is too slow. 2 is too mindless. 2 isn't comfy grinding.

Hopechads won. Doomsissies lost.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0LWQo-7yZM
She's right. On death effects are mega cringe.
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>>507084342
>play campaign
>slowly plod along map winding up through animations and 2-3 skills to kill white mobs
>reach maps
>delete entire screen in one click
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>Finally get to play maps with my crew
>Super excited
>They hate it so much they stop playing
Solo man time
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>70+ resis
>66% evasion
>58% armor
>still die at ritual altars 60% of the time
i don't get this game somtimes
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>>507073270
Except in this case, they are weak and boring. Much worse than poe1 just like all notables and keystones. There are generally no interesting niche builds or interactions. This is all in the service of catering to the brainless console class that just wants actiony souls combat.

Remember what they took from you
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>>507085080
she's so real for that
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>>507085080
I agree. On death effects are the worst design wise. Once a monster is dead the threat should be over. It isn't fun for the player.
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>>507085006
>Hopechads won.
forever and always.
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>>507085265
You have chosen the two worst defensive layers in the game. What did you expect?
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>>507084832
Go ahead and explain the difference
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>>507085080
stop posting this disgusting cringe ass skirt wearing faggot
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>>507073553
>it isn't slower in end game
>except it is slower
Retard
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>>507084040
>You've provided a rational defense to my retarded position
Ok
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>>507084712
It follows the same loop.
Though biggest difference is in exploration: instead of you pathing around the map to find mobs, the mobs path to you. It saves steps. There's even some game modes that follow the Vampire Survivor wave mechanics like Blight, Simulacrum, Timeless Domain, Coward's Trial, where it feels like you're playing Vampire Survivor as mobs just spawn at you endlessly.
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>>507085006
Extremely based post.
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>>507085402
nah it's the best
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>>507085006
idk how anyone could doom on something that had half a million people on steam anyway
its too early
you doom when it gets below 10k and after some catastrophic, irreversible design decision or commitment to something by a dev that everyone fucking hates

>no pve in overwatch 2, the actual reason they released overwatch 2, along with removing free boxes and making everything cost a fortune
doom (and vindicated later when marvelslop literally stole the market)
>every single fucking thing blizzard did with wow for a decade
doom (vindicated, dead too)
>first descendant
doomed, that gluttony boss and season 1.5 is when every single person quit. not as doomed as first 2 things though probably but warframechuds won
>once human
doomed, way of winter was terrible to fucking play and the concept of rebuilding a house every 6 weeks proved to be a bad idea
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>>507084309
>>507084567
That's not for claws, it's shapeshifting nodes that just have the word claw in the name. All they do right now is add attack damage. The claws in the game files are all dex weapons so it's in the wrong part of the tree for it too.
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>kill group of monster
>wait 10 seconds for all the on-death effects and ground shit to dissipate
>move to kill new group of monster
>wait 10 seconds again
is this the vision?
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>>507085650
People aren't even dooming, they are just complaining that the endgame the devs added last second is shit. Which it is, they genuinely should've just focused on campaign for EA.
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seriously when the fuck are we getting duelist
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>>507085747
and the one time you dont wait will be the time it kills you.
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>>507085080
They would be fine if they weren't "another random one shot, splendid". D2 had fire enchantsand they were okay.
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>>507079865
I've been fine with boneshatter detonates.
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>>507085747
>rare mob has a million periodic explosions and lighting storm on it
>have to go ranged versus it to be okay
i love melee
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Part of the thrill in ARPGs is the hunt for loot and the satisfaction of finding good items. If players can easily trade for powerful gear, the sense of achievement is reduced, making the game feel less rewarding.

With trade, players can skip content through financial means rather than skill or time invested, complete content faster and lose interest if they can bypass the intended progression mechanics. The game feels like a marketplace rather than an adventure.

In POE2, trading also removes you from the confined space of the game. You want a second monitor with a trade website tab open, scanning for offers. Then, in a 'fourth wall-breaking moment,' you whisper someone with a bot-like message (translated to cyrillic or mandarin) to proceed with the trade. The whole operation feels like two bots interacting with each other rather than a meaningful community interaction.

GGG explicitly states that they want to reduce the game's overreliance on third-party websites, yet trading is the complete opposite of that.
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>>507086149
Or you can just simply use push back mechanics and corrupting cry.
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>>507085747
we're all kinda forced to do it or potentially lose a map
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Instead of having mapping as the endgame they should have fleshed out the trial of sehkmet more and turned it into the "endgame". It's the only piece of high level content that I actually find myself enjoying sometimes.
If they added a bunch more effects, rooms, bosses, ect I think it would be more than enough to keep people's attention, at least in this alpha state
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>>507086228
I did that once and still randomly got one shot after, so now I just storm wave from a distance
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>>507084629
items
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any good exploits
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>>507084440
armor gets penetrated or ignored by most actually dangerous mobs
energy shield is king though
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>>507086393
is there anything I can sell in bulk like in poe1?
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What's the absolute best map farming class in the game right now?
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>>507086546
Energy Shield being meta reminds me of that one time in PoE1 where everyone was running Shavronne's armor
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>died to invisible breach mobs again
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>Div went from 80 to 73
can an economist explain?
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>>507086770
some greedy chink botlord had to sleep
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>>507085830
yea that's the impression i get too
and fair
not game killingly awful but not amazing
i absolutely would have rathered the other acts be done but i guess the endgame is the big time sink, so it still makes sense to release it early just to give people something to do until they get bored
running act 4 or 5 over and over would have made people madder
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>>507083312
That doesn't change what I just said. Stop larping that this little casual game is deep. I'm tired of it.
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I juiced a fucking ritual map and it won't spawn in most of the rituals for me to interact with fuck they just stand there and don't let me touch them
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>>507086687
that the average chud could afford?
probably dedayy lightning arrow.
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>be lvl 70
>try 3rd ascendandy
>literally just go from 50% honour to 0% in 1s because of some flame spell enemy
ABSOLUTELY EPIK AND FUN
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>my campaign is bugged and I can't get the last 30 spirit from cruel act 3
gee thanks
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>>507086687
They're all great with enough currency pumped into the build. Game has a lot of build variety, it's just you need to git gud gear and sockets.
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2450hp, 32% armor, 67% evasion with acrobatics.
30% less dmg taken with max tailwind stacks, 5% phys as ele damage taken on tree, 50+ movement speed, 216 rarity on gear.
How to fix it without killing other builds?
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>>507078398
Get rid of all thr shit to the right. Path ou5 of the left side and grab the es and stun threshold wheel and crit modes to the left, as well as armor es block. Take minion health nodes. You won't need dual curse
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Why the F word is everything priced for a divine on the tr*de website
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>>507087405
Sort by exalts. Set a price cap.
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>>507085006
based
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>>507087405
China and scammers
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>>507087405
Just filter to only use exalts
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>>507081128
Lol, lmao
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I wanna play Templar bros
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>>507087248
cruel gives your +40, you must be missing the ones from normal
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>>507087998
It looks fucking stupid.
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>>507084492
You can't be a demon of you only have 1 hp
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>>507066465
there really hasn't been a traditional roguelike that's had anywhere near the resources of poe or any other big rpg though. you could make some insane roguelikes with a team of 20-30 people
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>>507088130
strength monk?
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>>507085830
>they genuinely should've just focused on campaign for EA.
absolutely insane take
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>>507088130
That's because you're wearing it on a little bitch
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>>507085404
>w-what's the difference between passion and addiction
t. addict
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Elon Musk streamed PoE 2 from someone elses account

Around 4 days ago Elon Musk streamed PoE 2 from a plane to showcase starlink, getting pretty much the entire poe section on twitch, including asmongold, to react to him struggling to kill +1 arbiter on stream.

Well turns out the character he played on isn't actually his, and is mostly played by someone else, playing from Asia.

List of evidence:

At 15:46 in the vod, we can see that his character name is MonkEBiznizz

Looking at the trade message when trying to buy items from his supposed account, you can see that both the stash tab name and message are in chinese, which is a telltale sign that the person is using the HK client.

Getting invited and going to his hideout to actually do the trade, you can see Elon is playing on Hong Kong realm, despite being in Florida and using the Texas realm on stream? Impressive for starlink to let you use a realm on the other side of the planet!

While i'd consider the evidence above conclusive, it is completely unnecessary. Its clear to anyone remotely familiar with the invoker playstyle that if Elon actually did play an invoker to level 93 AND farmed enough currency to have HoWA and 3 complete arbiter sets, he'd probably not struggle to do the most basic rotation on a stationary target, while walking into a stationary beam (15:20 in the vod, endgame boss spoiler warning.)

In conclusion Elon probably loaned the account from someone. Unless of course can read chinese, prefers higher ping and got very nervous and lost all mechanics as soon as he turned on the stream, maybe turbulence?

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>>507088231
Gemling.
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this thing is very balanced
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Having so many attacks/effects that target your location makes the game less fun. It just encourages you to be constantly moving around. Even after the enemy dies it's best to keep moving because of on-death effects.
Attacks that you have to actually consciously identify and avoid are so much more fun, and they're the best parts of all of the game's bosses.
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>>507066717
yeah and what poe1 mapping has over it is they're faster, have better loot (sans rarity stacking) and you can try again if you get exploded from bullshit
I know they'll end up changing a lot but mapping is very underwhelming so far
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>>507085080
On death effects should just be kinda wtf moments that scare you but don't actually kill your character. They'd be fine if they were like jump scares that did chip damage
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>>507088234
The endgame is just running through copy pasted corridors, one shotting or getting one shot by white mobs and hunting down rares at the other end of the Earth. All the maps are basically the same with little to no difference and you have to run like 300 of them to get to a Citadel.
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>>507088348
No one cares because everyone knows this is true
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>>507088348
did anybody believe he plays these games?
he had bis diablo 4 gear and max paragon
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>>507088414
I need more spirit
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>>507068214
>>507068918
people who get like 400 mf get a divine every 10 or so maps
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>>507085080
is this a man
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>>507088348
literally how the fuck are elonfags defending this?
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>>507088532
Releasing any ARPG without even a paper thin dumpster fire endgame is permanent death
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>>507088348
Elon here, can confirm it was my character. GGG gives me special drop rates and higher stats but It's my account.
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>tried trial of chaos at level 38
>couldn't beat it
>came back at level 44
>couldn't beat it
>back again at level 48
>still can't beat it
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>>507085080
Fine if you don't like it but fucking hell how hard is it to adapt... Just don't run up and loot immedietly.
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>>507088723
PoE1 was literally running the same campaign three times for a while, Anon
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>>507088348
Isn't that against ToS or something lmao?
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I just did a tier 1 map and realised I am way too squishy and my mob clear isn't great. Should I first focus on upgrading my armour and what should I be looking out for as a merc?
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A map boss dropped a green book but after using it I've realized that nothing actually happened. Is my account fucking bricked or am I missing something
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10 days since asmon streamed poe last
he played more d4...
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>>507088348
>billionaire RMT'd in an RMT game
yeah, no duh
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I'm very surprised poe2 is still beating marvel rivals on steam. poe2 is too good.
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>>507073182
there are strong endgame uniques though, it's just that ggg realizes it's retarded to have an item that's bis for every build
there's nothing interesting about that item either, it's just a stat stick with no interesting effects
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>>507088835
tell me when you think maps were in the game
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>>507088871
Banning him would be based, but GGG probably doesn't have the balls.
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I just completed the Iron Citadel. I was so scared but I deleted him. He didn't even do his cloud phase.
He gave me 2 fragments!?
Also, this map is so disgusting. Clean your castle, dud!
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>>507089003
Why would you expect someone to spend their entire life playing a demo? I'm sure he will play more when the game is actually completed if he is still alive at that point. Or if any of us are still alive. I heard there is a 40% chance the world will end in nuclear war in the next 10 years so there's a chance we'll never see po2 release date.
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>>507072897
d4 item design is so fucking bad. Yes poe2 needs to buff their uniques but we definitely don't need fucking blizz retardo designs.
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>>507089257
>I heard there is a 40% chance the world will end in nuclear war in the next 10 years
Did it come to you in a dream?
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>>507089129
There are no interesting uniques of equivalent strength in poopdeux.
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>>507088706
>>507089025
>billionaire RMTs to advertise streaming from a plane using his billion dollar internet company on his billion dollar social media site
>retards seething that it wasnt his account
seething faggots missing the point, its literally just an ad for his other shit.
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>>507089107
we had 100k more players last week lmao
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any blood mage bleed gamers?
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poe 2 is an unequivocal failure
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>>507089407
I have the nukes, I'm deciding on launching them on a coin flip.
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>>507081165
I think being able to turn your stash tab into a store makes the most sense.
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>>507068310
what do they do if you don't pay?
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>>507088795
You gotta pick the right mods my brother. Don't go overboardwith the mods that add shit to the ground. Go for things that are virtually harmless such as making the mobs have more resistance (they die anyway) or have the debuff you cast be shorter (you are constantly refreshing stuff already). the first trial of chaos is not hard man, your build just needs decent enough mobing capacity. Bosses are anedoctal (that cowardly gay chimera is annoying but not hard).
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>>507089253
I've done around 300 maps, at least half from t14+ and I've never seen a citadel
what a weird design choice
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>>507089585
They need to make it like ffxi where you stand around in town and your character becomes your own vendor that others can visit.
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>>507089253
I realized something. Does this mean that when the other Acts are finished, you'll have to do 6 fucking Citadels in the Endgame?
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>>507089693
are you branching out far? I just reached T15s recently and I've seen three citadels
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They REALLY need to make armor work against trash mobs, it's getting infuriating. generic archer mobs shots an arrow at me? 10 damage. generic archer charges a bit before shooting the arrow at me? 50% of my health chunked. Vaal Overseer attacks me normally, 30 damage. Vaal Overseer does a little spin before the swing, boom 70% of my health gone.
FUCK OFF.
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Is it true one of the big shareholders of GGG own RMT sites?
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>>507089550
Massive success, everyone(who matters) loves it and it's only a beta. The only people complaining are like super sweaty poe1 players who want it to be more of the same.
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remember when we said it would be uninterrupted 1m+ for weeks?
haha...
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is this pogchamp or dansgame
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>>507089829
I'm so far from the start I don't even know where it was
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>>507089693
You only get one attempt at them too lmao
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>>507087327
nerf tailwind mit, make OoS not chain to rods
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>>507088706
he helped get a 1500 page pork stuffed budget bill down to a 100 page not as pork stuffed bill
I really don't care what he does with a children's game
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>>507089917
it's dansgame
I'm level 80 and my best amulet is just a generic 12% all res 15% rare find
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>>507089896
It is but it's just spread across multiple platforms. Notice how the only games on steam that reach those numbers are games you can only play on steam. It's unfair to pretend that those non steam players don't exist.
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>>507089809
Are the people in this general just stupid? It's clear that the citadel system is a placeholder. It's literally just re-using bosses where there would otherwise be unique lieutenants like for Shaper, Elder, Sirius and even Exarch and Eater. It's clear that they are going to radically change endgame later when they have more than six months to build the entire thing.
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>melee is bad
no u
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>>507085080
>Game where you zoom around firing screen filling AoE's
>Game has to fill the screen with enemies so you can instakill them with your screen filling AoE
>Enemy life expectancy is 0.5 seconds
>"wow it sure sucks that this screen full of enemies who lived for 0.5 seconds can drop on-death effects which I can't see because I was too busy instakilling a screen full of enemies with my screen filling AoE
You made this bed and now you are lying in it. Nobody ever had this problem in Dark Souls
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>>507089841
>aaron
lmao
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>>507090096
>You made this bed
No, the devs did.
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>>507089917
That's a very nice amulet
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>>507088889
you probably want to focus on clear first, then work on defenses. you will die, but if you don't have clear it's going to be miserable and you will still die, just less so
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>>507090091
I wonder what you'll be saying when they finally nerf the bell
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>>507090091
>boss
who cares literally every build deletes bosses
I'm more scared of the average map rare than the bosses, bosses are actually consistent.
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>>507089003
Are you legitimately a schizo?
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>>507090049
Bro they just shrunk the font...
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Where is the Butcher tho?
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>touch breach
>hear the explosion, know my fate is sealed
>proceed to play like an absolute buffoon trying to kill the exploder before the endless bodies I'll cleave kill me
>fail miserably and die to corpse explosions.
Golly that sure don't feel very swell.
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i keep getting smoked by a monster named it that hates in breach
does anybody know what type of damage it does slash how hard it hits
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Endgame is just placeholder, they will nerf everything massively to slow it down.
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>>507090091
I'm glad they nerfed everything that made warrior viable
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>>507090260
>HUGE DAY DRAMA REACTS NEWS
fuck everyone with this shitty title
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>>507090260
>briefly turned it on for 5 minutes
>quit because he was bored
nah lil bro
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>SSF too hard
>I can't get my 3th ascend
>I played all day and haven't found one upgrade
>No one will trade with me
>I keep getting one shot and I don't know why when my armor is 57%
>warrior sucks
Can we have a poe2g thread for people who are actually good at the game and have a clue?
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>>507088457
and it actually makes the game more mindless. if there's several enemies that wind up attacks you have to pay attention so you don't end up where there attacks will land. if they follow you at all times you just have to keep moving without much though other than how close your character is to a pack that could surround it
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>>507090369
this is good btw, poe 2 is too fast
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>>507090369
You mean speed everything up so it's exactly like diarheea dribble 1.
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>>507090301
your damage could use some improvement
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>>507090250
i'll already be playing Druid by that point
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>>507090301
Don't stop moving and don't let yourself position into into a corner. The same applies to poe 1, but poe 2 has way more on death effects so it's even more applicable here
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>>507088835
that was 11 or 12 years ago right? the game market has changed drastically. there used to be a point where you could have looked at every game on steam. now you would have to be extremely dedicated to keep track of everything that comes out in a year. and sure, a lot of that is shovelware but every year good games come out, you can't release a title of Poe2's level that's barebones, it has higher expectations than some $2-20 indie game
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mages are tankier than warriors because energy shields are fucking busted and that's pretty funny
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>>507090501
I made this weapon about a week ago. Since then I've picked up, identified, and gone up to augment on every single staff.

Though obviously my build isn't that hot either.
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>>507090091
when they finally nerf the bell, I think the outcry and bitching will be even worse than the coc nerf

that shit is hard carrying so many builds right now, quarterstaff is unplayable without it
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>>507090091
i really liked doing that until i realized bosses actually don't even matter at all
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>>507090086
They had 5+ years lmao
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>>507089407
it depends on the build. you're right that there isn't some "best piece of gear for this slot no matter what your build is" item in poe2 because that's fucking retarded
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Is there anything I can grab that interacts with chills or chilling ground? I've been filling my entire screen with chilled ground but that's it. Is there any way I can add exposure, etc, to it?
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>>507090721
Mages are tankier than warriors because mages clear screens faster. That's it. Go play the full screen aoe warrior build and suddenly you're a god limited only by your movement speed.
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>>507090817
Forgot the weapon
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>>507089745
nah because then you're limited by who is in your instance, this isn't a single shard mmo where you can stand in a popular city and have the right people check you out. plus nobody is going to be hanging out in the endgame hub because they'll be in their hideout
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>>507090721
Same thing happened in Last Epoch, this game copied their endgame and builds it's pretty funny.
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How do you get more points on Boss Atlas tree? Is it pure RNG on T15 bosses or do you have to do Corrupted Irradiated Boss nodes?
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>>507090937
>hurr with the most broken build in the game it doesn't matter
that has nothing to do with what I said
when it comes down to it mages have more effective hp and will also have resistances, I wasn't talking about muh BiS screen clearing build
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>>507089917
imo that's poggers
good life roll, good resist, mf, +skills
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>>507090896
They only started working on the games systems a year and a half ago. The game hasn't been in proper development even half of the time it takes to make a AAA game. We won't see the full release until 2027 at the minimum.
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>>507091136
try reading
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>>507091150
Yeah energy shield is way too strong right now.
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>>507090120
lmao so this is the reason why drop rates are so low? They are literally in bed with RMT sites
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So i played this game for 140 hours lvl 88 on my witch, Really fucking good game i hope it dosent turn into POE1 being super zoomy with 300 systems but.. I think it will for now I put it down cuz just doing T15 maps is kinda boring after awhile.
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thoughts? as it stands this ring is better then what I have right now.

Real talk only please.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>tfw replacing my normal act 2 quarterstaff with a cruel act 2 quarterstaff
kino?
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Anyone just had the game freeze on them, and on relog, be rollbacked around 5 minutes back? Lost a map, the loot and half a level.
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>>507091415
>i hope it dosent turn into POE1 being super zoomy
uh anon..
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>>507088286
Still waiting for an answer
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>>507091107
>fagss
>not fagggs
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>>507091415
> i hope it dosent turn into POE1 being super zoomy
it already is, just with slightly slower movespeed
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>>507091470
it's useable but it has less rarity than rare rings and +6 spirit probably does literally nothing
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why hasn't this general died yet if no one likes the game
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>>507091697
wdym its great im just waiting for the actual release.
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>>507091697
We had a metal gear survive general that lasted for a year.
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Ok, so the game is actually shit, right?
>It doesn't tell you the most important things about how spells and skills and gems work, making it easy to fuck up and waste a valuable uncut gem
>It makes enemies "hard" by just cranking up their hp, speed, and damage and letting them spam CC so you spend more time dodging abilities than actually playing the game
>The bonuses are just as retardedly misleading as in PoE: "+10% crit! Oh boy! Aw, it's +10% of base crit so it's actually +0.5% chance to crit."
>Entire passive tree is so bloated it's obnoxious and it's shitty that every node is worth 0.01% improvement in power
Everything is designed to just stretch out extremely thin gameplay. The game itself, the world, the story, the characters, etc, are small, but the systems take forever to work through even after you figure them out
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>>507091286
Oh there is a tooltip, thanks.
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>>507091560
Only like 3 builds are like that and they are massive massive power gap between what others can hit. They will absolutely be nerfed through the ground
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>>507091697
What kind of twisted bubble do you live in that you think nobody likes this game?
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>>507091483
same thing happened to me. I found a replacement staff in normal act 3 but then corrupted my act 2 staff and couldn't find a better one until cruel act 2
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>>507091415
>Great game
>Quit and never touch it again

Pandering to souls niggers was a mistake
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>>507091873
cope shill
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>>507089841
>>507091318
They have been for years. Most of the stuff people buy from RMT sites is either directly from GGG or not. RMT sites day 3? of the Early Access had "999,999 in stock" of everything.
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>>507091415
Yeah agreed with everything you said, except I'm not bored yet I keep rerolling and trying shit.
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>15% chance to inflict bleed on crit
why is it a chance? shouldn't it just bleed on crit? why are some ascendancy options so weak
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>>507091936
Yes I get paid for shilling the game in a 4chud thread of people that are already playing it
Fuck off underage
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>>507092039
nah cope shill fuck off
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>>507092002
Some numbers on the passive skill nodes are just laughable.
>RECOVERS 2% HP AND MP WHEN YOU USE WARCRY
wow, a whole fucking 2%? I really gotta get that node.
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AHHHHHHHHH WHY ARE THESE SO MANY SHILLS IN THIS THREAD
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Everything but warrior feels like ass to me
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>>507091910
this is how I feel too after reaching maps, and figured it might be the case based on what I saw
normally the game gets even better in maps, here I'm pretty bored and not that interested in going further
I think they will change a lot over the next few months but not getting hooked now means I will probably just move to other games
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>>507091787
My only complaint is that there is no underlined explanation on MORE and INCREASED key words. I'm 100% sure new players and even old Poe players have no idea there is a difference.
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How the fuck do I refund my attribute nodes?
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>>507092310
>>507091415
Tell me you are running minions without telling me you are running minions.
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It just takes forever to get to something new in maps. You'll get to enter the super cool fire tower after you clear the 3 citadels... Where the fuck are the citadels? It's been 10 hours and there's none on the map yet.
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increased is additive with other increased damage sources, more is multiplicative over your overall damage
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>add a roll to game
>everyone now raging at "soulniggers"
>gw2 roll is a better comparison but nobody makes it
why are poe tards so touchy about actually hard games
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>>507092567
By refunding them? Sorry I don't get the question. You talk to the cloaked man or doryani later and say, I want to refund my passives.
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>>507091875
Its crazy how much more excited I was for this piece of gear then anything I got in trade league. SSF is the way to play, at least for me.
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>>507092648
The endgame is very unfinished, they rushed it out so the sweats had something to do, that's all really.
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>>507091979
>day 3? of the Early Access had "999,999 in stock" of everything
you realize that someone running a website like that could enter whatever they wanted, right? I've bought currency on other games before and the website would say "x amount in stock" and then I would be told there would be a delay because someone needed to farm the amount I bought on my server
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>>507092648
>super cool fire tower
it's 1 room with a boss in it that dies very quickly.
the rewards are NOT worth the time spent trying to find citadels.
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The time investment that GGG expect is unreasonable but there is a .01% of the population that is hyper autistic and ruin it for everyone
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>>507092759
the roll is the most nothingbuger thing ever
most actually dangerous situations you're fucked either way
it only works for bosses but I don't remember the last boss encounter that I actually had to dodge anything
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>>507092759
poe 2 is more comparable to enter the gungeon than darksouls or gw.
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>>507092798
Nevermind I was being tired and retarded, I didn't see that some of them were still linked to other parts of the tree and jewel sockets
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>>507092759
I hate souls-games, love poe2.
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>>507091936
>>507092109
don't you have better things to do that you would enjoy more? like self harm or hard drugs?
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>>507091787
I think it's a valid complaint that some systems aren't well explained, but otherwise, the passive tree is a matter of taste. I personally do like the idea of stacking dozens of small bonuses, and I prefer PoE2 tree to, say, D2 tree.
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>>507093024
okay yep you're paid
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apparently there are two invisible areas in the upper corners of the screen where if you move the cursor to you cannot attack or use skills
https://files.catbox.moe/kj4zc8.mp4
i don't even know what to say
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>>507092610
ice strike monk
it's okay, I'm just not getting enough from the game to get into a flow state
>loot isn't great
>rare hunting through big maps is a chore
>challenge is decent, but random oneshots kill the vibe
>so far I don't like the big map vs just completing an atlas of tiered maps
it's okay, just nowhere near as addictive as poe1 mapping is
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>>507093109
you're mentally ill
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>you're mentally ill
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>>507093109
copn'seed
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>>507092914
I see. Honestly, going blind I'm pretty sure what's going to happen is that I'm just gonna get insta gibbed by something randomly and then would have to farm for citadels for another 30 hours, really not feeling it.
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>>507093538
BAM
basedjak'd
gottem

>>507093440
pwned
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>>507093103
For example, I just portaled from the Count's checkpoint to swap out some gear in storage, only to find that my portal back didn't exist and now I have to fight my way back to his checkpoint again.
The game gives no reason whatsoever why this would happen and nothing like this has happened up to now. It's like every time I get over some annoyingly bad piece of design or some extremely vague mechanic, the game just throws another in my face.

>>507092382
Yeah, I can't say I know the difference off the top of my head.
This is the same stuff that stopped me from playing PoE 1 much after it launched. I was in the beta and played the hell out of it thinking they'd have everything polished by the time the game launched, but then they launched it and instead of fixing all of that garbage they just kept adding more systems and mechanics to kick new players in the nuts with.
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>>507093440
what are you doing you little goomba? What you're going to have a last word off with a person who is obviously trolling you. Don't respond to this post either. Stop being stupid.
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>>507093538
>what do you mean there's more interesting things to do in life than baiting for (you)s in a thread about a game I don't like
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>>507091697
There are plenty of generals about games people don't actually like or play very much.
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>what are you doing you little goomba? What you're going to have a last word off with a person who is obviously trolling you. Don't respond to this post either. Stop being stupid.
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audacious, bald-faced, barefaced, bodacious, brassy, brazen, brazen-faced, insolent shilling going on atm
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>>507088414
its kino
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>>507093638
As it currently stands the endgame, mapping, everything adjacent to it are fucking abysmal and not worth doing. One attempt at every boss after literal hours upon hours upon hours of grinding to get there, just to meet a mechanic that 1shots 99% of builds, isn't fun gameplay. It's not unique gameplay. It's not rewarding gameplay. It's cobbled together garbage.
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>never get disconnected while mapping
>never get disconnected while doing sekhema
>got disconnected TWICE IN A ROW trying to run some ultimatums
yeah
fuck this
not running those until they allow you to return to them
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>>507091910
this nigga played the average amount of time a person plays a league, he is literally a prime poe1 player.
>get to red maps
>quits
the overwhelming vast majority of poe1 players have never beaten ubers.
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>>507093683
>just portaled from the Count's checkpoint to swap out some gear in storage, only to find that my portal back didn't exist and now I have to fight my way back to his checkpoint again.
Well yes, that's absolute ass, I hate it.



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