Visual Novel General #6760This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTLR+C and paste them with CRTL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png (https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>507253134
/vn/ Christmas party!
Any VNs like Clifford the Big Red Dog?
>>507325878I wanted to make Misaki thread, you stole my idea
>>507326060I'll make gingerbread and wassail
butas are brotas
>>507326103You can make the next one
>>507326281I wanted a Playstation you useless slut
No, I will NOT jerk off today Aokana posters.
>>507326674Are you sure?
>>507321332Synopsis says the heroine's half alien though, not a robot heroine. But I do see the similarities about taking place in a post-apocalyptic world.
>If they loved a dude, they would be mentally be a Homo… if they loved a woman, they would physically be doing YuriGe for this feel?
>>507326870...why even bother when the website is already translated?
Is Cafe Stella a winterge?
>>507327186Yes
>>507326373Why is she such a fucking slut?
>>507325878Akiha is here!
>>507327345She's hot and she knows it, best kind of a heroine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ysACP57zOs
>>507327834Does the cute blonde have a route?
>>507325878>Christmas Eve Edition>Dec 23??
>>507328006It's 3 am on December 24th.
It's not a winterge if there's no snow
Is Tokyo Necro a christmasge?
>>507326373child and a whore.
>>507328006It's 5 am sir
>>507328193It's kusoge.
>>507327945nobut she is a route invader in one of the routes and obviously you get to fuck her
>>507328193It's winter kamige.
>>507328193indians don't celebrate christmas
>Unavoidable Heroine RapeSfuck off
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, KONOHANAA LUCIAAA!!!!!
>Unavoidable Heroine RapeSPicked up.
>>507328193It takes place during an ice age, not winter.
>>507326736God, I love America.
what ge do you want to see blogposted?
>>507329194Hatsukoi 1/1, Runa's route
>hag>girl failureI thought I'd never see this combination. Super cute.
>>507329194Hikira
Make sure to drink copious amounts of whiskey this Christmas
>>507329194Rewrite
Nun heroine?
>>507326123show the underside
>>507329420
Bros, a manko is growing on my hand.
>>507329594My indian friend got this.
Why are 95% of western visual novel fans from South America?
>>507329650You could've just said "I got this". We didn't need to know what you are.
>>507329713I'm part of the 5% (ethiopian)
>>507329713because the us and canada have tranny propaganda that makes them massively sensitive to just about anything while us sudacas don't give a fuck, pretty much
>>507327402she sure is
>>507329912Your shitholes are full of trannies without any propaganda lmao
>>507329350I'll be reading and blogposting Rewrite sometime in January
>>507329983sorry for your upcoming loss
Don't open. Spooky.
>>507329293Explain the joke
>>507329981lol no, maybe argentina and chile, not so much for the rest
>>507329981But enough about France
>>507330218What joke? It's Qruppo's new kamige.
>>507330338the only ones that matter, brazil and argentina are tranny central
Can we not? Let's be jolly for one day
Still not buying JAST sloppa
Plotge doko...
>>507329983Based, enjoy the ride.
>>507330130bwo, your spoiler reps...
https://x.com/ErogeAreAlive/status/1871249467422515479
https://files.catbox.moe/6wj5xt.jpgWhy are they fucking on the floor instead of on the bed?>looks at (You)I'm picking up NTR vibes for some reason.>>507331429...
>>507331686Barely anything. What a shit year.
>>507331885Dead medium.
>>507331745>Why are they fucking on the floor instead of on the bed?
>>507331686What a lackluster year
>>507331686>Criminal Border made top 5Apologize
>>507331686Dead days doko?
>>507331686>sorting by number of votes>not scoreSelect Oblige got a 73, and Tsumugi no Hanayome got an 81, but isn't on the list because it only got 55 votes. Clown list for retards.
>NN announced the Reboot releasewhy didn't anyone tell me
>>507332248>Dead days doko?Fucking retar->Kirurin picI mean, based CHAD.
>>507332176I'll binge it after Life Sentence releases on 2026.
>>507329764He's not me though.
I love Karen
I love Saki
I love Rokuhara
sigh, thread is so boring when AIsir isn't here
I love /vn/
I love Kuonanon
I love Kanna
>>507332481We don't like you
I love oppai
I love whitenoise posts
I love lolis
>>507332784I love Saki but my gut wrenched when she said she wouldn't indulge my mommy fetish.
I love anal
>>507333545i didn't like her, the romance was too forced
>>507333626there is nothing much to do when you don't have common route and the VN is just a tinderthat's why ML is a bad VN
>>507333545I'm older than her so mommy shit is cringe to me
>>507333545Doesn't Mashiro also say a similar line? Mommyfags BTFO!
>>507330217me in the middle
>>507329194
single heroine games are superior
>>507334371only if you like the heroine
Post white women
>>507334562i don't save pictures of garbage heroines
>>507334562
i don't like mean girls
Mitcher is Grisaia's only saving grace
>>507334853Too retarded tbqh
>>507334853Sachi is better as a heroine and Makina is better as comic relief. Mitcher is outclassed on both fronts
So, uh, why didn't NekoNyan just release Tenshi Reboot outside of steam on January 2024, instead of holding it hostage for an entire year?
>>507334853Grisaia is kino and mitcher isn't even in the top 3 best girls.
I like how I wanted to have a conversation with Mei (who's an angel) and instead I quickly get railroaded into this trainwreck
>>507335228Because the plan said so
>>507335420>mfw I try my best attempt at a "customer service smile" as I dread another week of wageslaving
>>507335404She is in the top 5 Kajitsu heroines
>>507335420kek
>>507335420>Mei (who's an angel)Nobody tell him.
>>507335228Probably because they wanted to give it another shot on Steam, and it would be too weird to have a delayed Steam launch while it is already out on other websites
The AAF won.
What am i in for?
>>507336165Natsume as the only good heroine.
>>507336165Your standard run of the mill yuzuslop
>>507336165Side affects may include increased urge to buhi
>>507336165Kanna as the only good heroine and below average yuzuge
Everytime I've heard "this is the only good heroine" or "this route sucks" in a Yuzuge it's always been wrong
>>507335228Steam has so much influence on our PC games, it's unreal...
>>507336498pretty much every yuzu heroine is garbage
>>507336165Wishing you had a natsume gf
>>507336165NATSUMEEEEEEEEEE UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>invades Runa's route, only to break up with you>breaks up with you on her own route tooWhat was Yukino's problem?
>>507336954woman moment
>>507336954Shit writer
I can't help but like her confidence and energy.
>>507336165Kanna this, Natsume that.People need to start shilling Nozomi and the other girl too
>>507337429Nozomi is trash from the moment she first appears.
>>507337458You are just a buta blasted about that one line
>>507337429>>507337458We love Nozomi though?
>>507337576No, her personality is just boring and her design is ugly as shit.
>>507336831>>507336713
New plotkino from Ihanashi no Majo authors in 2025https://store.steampowered.com/app/3411510/Stellar_Code/TL is planned
>>507337784>You don’t need a background in science to enjoy this storyuh oh, brainlet kusoge
>>507337707I was the exact type of person in college who Natsume wouldn't like
>>507337909This, but unironically.
>>507330990what game
>>5073380522027newGOD.......
>>507337949She would've liked a yasashii ugly bastard like me
>>507333626>i didn’t like herWe know, Karenschizo
Fuck, this got me. Kikka's route suffers a bit from clearly not getting as much focus or budget as Ria's but still, I felt. And here I thought this VN was the forgettable step between Kinkoi and Ambitious Mission.
>>507334798they're great
saga SHITnets
>>507336165>>395092071I am the teacher of my poleNatsume is my body and alcohol is my bloodI have read over a thousand moegeAfraid of DeathAfraid of LifeHave withstood toxic environment to protect the kidsYet, this EMPTY SHELL will never break the barrier of realitySo as I pray, Unlimited Anon's Life!
>>507337784>another ghibli tier family shitno one cares. the term is charage anyway
>>507337949i highly doubt anyone posting in /vn/ was in a frat
>>507336165why does it seem like a bunch of anons are reading Cafe Stella at the same time? I'm in the middle of it too
>>507338447You just replied to one
>>507338350>>>395092071(Dead)>he's linking that pasta from a few months ago again>2 years agoslow down the time wtf is going on
>>507338441fried chicken has nothing to do with visual novels, obsessed retard. take your vitamins
>>507338235what oldge is that
>>507338480We're all prepping for January 24
Mugyu?
>>507337429>>507337458Nozomi is my favorite of the main heroines. She's second overall though, Suzune is first.
>>507338174yeah, it's a good route and she's a good girl that deserves her ending>here I thought this VN was the forgettable step between Kinkoi and Ambitious Missiononly the true route and Hibiki's route are worth remembering. Low IQ anons will say Riri too, but they've probably already forgot about her route details by now
>>507338774She's literally a teddy bear. Don't put your dick in her.
>>507338830You put sugar in the eggs again, didn't you?
>>507338632https://vndb.org/v1894Would recommend it if you like moege.
VNs where the heroine genuinely loves the MC, but the MC only likes her for the sex, and when she finds out she has a mental breakdown?
>>507339012Anon's Life
>>507339012Rance
>>507337597What did she mean by this?
>>507338985>Flat Tints Onlyyeah, no
>>507338760but the new chocochipge comes out a week later?
>>507339084No gook peepees for that fat ass, obviously
>>507339084
>>507339084AIIIIIIEEEEE KOREA BROS SHE'S DOING THE THING
VNs with lots of cuddling?
>>507338921Spoiler...
Is there a yuzuge in which all the routes are good?
>>507339557no lolgood luck finding a moege that good in the first place
>>507339110it has been 0 days since i have read that as>Flat Tits Only
>>507339557I have read most of them and.... uh.... no...only 2 routes are good in nearly all of them
>>507339557Senren Banka>inb4 some random anon disagreeing you're wrong
>>507339557Is there even a moege where all the routes are good?
>>507331686JOPs, give it to me straight. Are us EOPs going to get Unravel Trigger? That vampire princess looks pretty hot. She's also voiced by the VA of the kuudere in Amakano 2 and Arcueid in nu-Tsukihime.
>>507339818no lol
>>507339779No such thing
>>507338985>Role: Childhood Friend, Not a Virgin, Prostitue
In moege, butas determine route and heroine quality not on the writing or design, but on how much it makes them gosling
>>507339748Tell me how Mako being a different person during her route is a good thing
>>507340008HOLY FUCKING KINO
>>507340039yeah but you need writing and good design to do that in the first place
>>507340039That's the main reason people read moege, so I can't really hold it against them for ranking routes like that.
>>507340008>Personality TransmanFor me it's this one
>>507340069>Mako being a different personyour mistake started with thinking that a heroine's personality would be on full display during the common route
>Using science as an excuse to sexually harass the MC.This 18+4 hag is a danger to society.
>>507329194family project or any kf game
You must master the tea making for five years before we allow you to put the cream on the parfait.
>dominant heroine the entire common route and start of her route>she turns submissive moeblob after confessiondropped and rated 0
>yuzu hours We're so back
>>507340723If you can't appreciate gap moe I feel sorry for you
>>507340723happens IRL too
>>507339867Don't make me learn Japanese.
>>507338632Kamige.>>507338985Its not a moege. Its a charage, closer towards YMK
What is a charage
>>507341276It's a moege with too much drama.
>>507341276Fried chicken, but Japanese.
What do I have to do to get a cute JOP boyfriend that will teach me japanese and read moege with me?
>>507340723only have seen a single case where this is done well, the heroine acts like a massive cunt for the entirety of the game the only exception being her route, where we find out everything its an act, she admits its an act and only shows her true self to mc, she continues being a cunt to everyone else until the end and the only one who ever finds out about her truel self is mc.also her true self its cute as fuckwont mention the vn because its a spoiler and its a jopge
>>507339818>Are us EOPs going to get Unravel Trigger?I don't see any publisher except Shiravune picking it up but the developer's previous title currently has an ongoing fan translation so that might be a sign of hope for the future.
tsundere is the worst character trope in the medium btw
>>507341619Oops, meant to type deredere
>>507341619That would be deredere
>>507341619>>507341735it's actually COODERE
We love derederes here.
>>507341619RETARD
>>507341841Kuuderes are good tho?
>>507341619
Lucia is a miracle of the universe.
i only like tsunderes when they're imoutos
>>507341619Tsunderes are good if the protagonist is deliberately riling them up for fun.
tsundere is the best character trope in the medium btw
>>507342402buhiii'd that
The best heroines are smart, funny, and caring
Imoutos loves good knobbing.
>>507342995This
>>507343064By the bro character while the MC fucks the bro's older sister.
>>507343104That's a slut
>>507343237Smart, funny and caring slut, yes
>>507343114That's extremely gay.
>>507341619What a tsundere thing to say.
>>507343705I look like this
>>507343668
>>507343705
does/did Cafe Stella crash a bunch for you guys?
>>507343668>>507343864Subahibi peaked right here.
>>507344149No. Upgrade your PC, poorfag.
Subahibi peaked right here
>>507344110Melanin Yamato...
>>507342320I now want a ge where the protagonist knows the tsundere's feelings and instead of confessing he intentionally riles her up until she breaks and admits to her feelings first.
>>507343705>>507344110Average stroll through the Japanese countryside
>>507344149I thought so too, but I just fell asleep a couple of times.
>>507343104Really? Aokana just moved up on the backlog
>>507344573It's not worth it dealing with a pink mary sue childhood friend just to get in Misaki's pants
>>507344726I'll be the judge of that
As a cunnyfag I picked up Aokana for Mashiro only to end up liking Misaki and Asuka more than her. Shes a generic moeblob with almost no defining personality traits and worst of all she's a gaymer.
Misaki is a bro character. There is something wrong with you if you see her in a sexual way, desu.
Haha what?
VNs with a banger main theme?
>>507344213>Upgrade your PC, poorfag.rude faggot
>>507345187Waffles are better
>windows 11lol
>uses windows 11uwaaaaaaaaa
>>507345187Pancakes are not a normal breakfast item everywhere in the planet.The first time I ever saw a pancake was in my mid twenties.
>>507345381what are you using 28gb of ram for
plap plap murasame
>>507345580Ok but that's still weird to never have one until your 20s
>>507345595unused ram is wasted ram saar
>>507345342https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1CBeYUtRqI
>>507345619
>>507345480Do VNs run pretty well on Linux nowadays?
>>507345854they run extremely well on windows 10, i was not talking about linux
>>5073455954GB for Firefox, 4 GB for Chrome, other apps and windows stuff eating up the rest. I also have 1000+ tabs of doujin open
>>507345850You can't do that to a child...
Win11 is great.
should I bother with Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate if I read Aokana and didn't think it was very good?
>>507345936>windows 10lol
>>507346113No.>>507346015No.
>>507345996She's 500.
>>507346113koichoco is better than aokana so yes
Leaving operating system preferences aside, shouldn't you always update to the latest software version to plug security risks?
>>507326060nah, I don't follow jews or their made-up golem religions. keep that shit to yourself, judeocuck.
>>507346172Install LTSC version. It's unironically great.
>>507346113Read it for Satsuki.
>>507346260As long as you have a functioning brain, security risks don't exist.
>>507346113Yes
>>507346597Obviously you should be vigilant against phishing to being with. But in the event of a legitimate Day 0 vulnerability, you have no defense except to update to close to risk.
>>507346260Generally, yes. Sometimes upgrading can lead to worse features being installed though
>>507346191is it legal to marry a sword?
>luddites ITTabsoulute state.
>>507331686Hold up, there was a new VN by Aokana devs and nobody posts about it? Did sprite drop the ball and it's kusoge?
>>507347097It's an all-ages yurige (without yuri).
>>507347097>he doesn't know
>>507347097>nobody posts about ityou must be new or don't come around much
>>507346113Aokana and Koichoco are completely different VNs so there's no telling if disliking one will make you not like the other
I wonder if he served her shitty pancakes on purpose to bait her into the kitchen and recruit her. Big brain move if so.
>>507347224>>507347331I did a VN break between March and December roughly.>>507347219And the bad is...?
>>507346998Yes.
>>507346113do it for her
>>507347456If you have to ask, you should jump in front of a car on Christmas.
>>507347518I am going to offer her as a sacrifice to my gods this christmas.
>>507347456>March and Decemberfair enough. /vn/ was complaining about it every day up until a couple of weeks after its release because we wanted new Aokana content instead of yurikusoge
>>507347408this little pink shit ignited my desire for rough correction
UWOOGA YUZUSOFTOOO???
white woman birthday(Extra)
>garbage birthday
>>507347993for >>507332735
>>507347590advertiser-sama gomen....
VNs where you take all white women and throw them into the sun?
>>507348121wasn't arcued also a virgin in the OG tsukihime?
>>507347978>>507348121My smart white wife
which VN heroine shares your birthday
>>507348336Nice try.
>>507348336I can't think of any off the top of my head, is there a search feature for that?
When will moege get advanced enough to have a birthday event with your chosen heroine on the date you input?
>>507348161>read it as snowcute...
>>507348485majikoi and a lot of other ones did it 20 years ago newGOD
>>507325878why is she looking at the reader?
>>507348425>is there a search feature for that?https://vndb.org/c?f=eE4d&fil=&p=1&s=2
>>507348485Amakano
How are the Muv Luv body mod and tentacle scenes? Are they as good as the greats?
>>507348774It's ten seconds long
Are there any English translated non-nukige vns where one of the heroines is a loli that's physically 10 years old or younger? All the ges I've read so far that have a loli in it either make her a routelet, a lolibaba or a hebe.
>>507348846ctrlfag, you didn't read the VN
>>507348846Oh.
>>507348706If you gaze long at a heroine, the heroine also gazes at you
>>507349161>translatedNope.
>>507349161if spanish works for you, there is supremu candy i guess (mc waits until she's a jk to fuck her tho)
>>507349463>MC waitsFaggot nonsense. Sasuga scatji
royal kani!
>>507349161maitetsu?>non-nukigethis kind of fetish is usually reserved for nukige
>>507349728It's not a fetish.
i want tenshi for christmas
>>507349813ahh sorry, you're right. it's not a fetish, it's just being a pedo
>>507349930christmas was delayed for one month
>>507348282Prior to meeting Shiki, all she has ever done in her life is kill Dead Apostles and drink Roa's
>>507350070kill yourself
>>507348282she is not a virgin, she drinked another man bloodthat is like sex for vampires
>>507350098Drink Roa's what???
>>507350351Bodily fluids
The plan?
The pan?
>>507348336Ryan Gosling
>japanese VN count: 32885>same, with the LGBTQ issues tag: 24 (i.e. about 0.073%)>EVN count: 14778>same, with the LGBTQ issues tag: 359 (i.e. about 2.37%)Why westerners are 32 times more likely to make a VN with this shit?
We love lolis here.
>>507349135Literally me but I identify as jobfree rather than jobless
>>507350889>Why are westerners more likely to write about their real culture?
>>507350889Because we are indoctrinated throughout childhood in every aspect of society
>>507350889japanese culture usually lags behind western culture. Another 5 or 10 years you'll see even more LGBT focus in VNs
>>507351413in 10 years no one will make non-nukige anymore
>>507350889Weggers are more likely to tag that than others.
>>507350889More importantly why do so many vns that people uphold as kamige have this tag? Umineko, fat Morgan, sakuuta, nukitashi 2 and tokyo necro all have it.
>>507325878Is there a difference between used and damaged goods?
>>507351497Hopefully.
>>507351562Where's the kamige?
>>507351562because anyone can tag it? as a said, 1 vote can remove any of these tags, you can just go there and put -0.3 right now
>>507351969>being upset about real tags to the point of downvoting them so people won't make fun of your favorite VNpathetic
brb gonna make a Kamige tag
>>507352098A lot of tags get downvoted and upvoted daily. Some of them are just plain wrong, it's simply a matter of accuracy. People who created a VNDB account yesterday can just put a scat tag on the entire top 10 and others might only notice a year later because not everyone monitors tags daily.
>>507352106Already existshttps://vndb.org/g134
>>507351969Are you saying tagging those games as such is incorrect?
>>507351562Any game a Western queer or tranoid is likely to play has a much better chance of getting the tag.
>>507352554considering that it’s only one vote for that Tokyo Necro tag and he gave it 1.0 instead of 3.0... yeah, it’s debatable.
>>507352813Did you even play TN? It's not debatable. It's a part of the entire big twist of Ethica's route.
LB is okay, G is a discouraged, T is unacceptable in my ge
>>507350889Just a tagging issue. Considering the drags/trannies in Muramasa, it would technically be an accurate tag here too.
>>507353043kill yourself cordtranny
>>507352957Then the tag would have been there earlier, not because a single guy out of nowhere voted for it one month ago, eight years after the release.
>>507353043True, most VNs just aren't tagged that well. Maybe someone should see to that.
>>507353101Are you well, anon?
>>507353142>Then the tag would have been there earlieras if there's that many gigaautists going around tagging every little fucking detail the day the game comes outthere's old games that I've put in tags years after release too, this doesn't mean shit. You just didn't read TN.
Tagging properly is one of the most important aspects of VNDB. It’s what makes VNDB’s search functionality literally the best among any database site in any medium.
>>507353427Not really, I wasted 2000$ on gacha and want my money back.
>>507353902typemoonsister...
>>50735409728:25 mark for the lulz
>>507352474Tokyo Necro has only one vote for LGBTQ. Flowers 3 has only four.I guess it also depends on the tag.
>>507354234>lolicon's illegalkek
>>507354097>nyoooo le hecking ai generated loli cartooons youre evil scum get 50 years in jail uoooohim glad i live in the third world
>>507351562All of those games have queer characters, that's why. And yes, futas are gay and LGBTQ-coded.
>>507354570Umineko doesn't have any queer characters.
>>507354259>I guess it also depends on the tagIt definitely does. There's so many worthless tags; too many to reasonably keep track of.
>>507353839it really is a superb website
>>507354570>futas are gay and LGBTQ-coded.retardGOD... I kneel
>>507354465third world countries take a time for pushing agendas of first world countries
I live in a small town in a shit world country, no one will take my lolis away from me.
>>507354689https://youtu.be/UTmNGBn30B4?t=727
>>507352957what? does she turn out to be a troon or something? having a dyke protagonist qualifies for the tag anyway
Det-cuck will not tolerate this slander. Expect a new melty.
https://vndb.org/g4010https://vndb.org/g4011
>>507355227Her father made was in love with the male MC's father, so when he died, he used his own dna combined with the male MC's father to make Ethica.
What did we learn this year, anons?
>>507355227No, basically the twist is that both the male and female protagonists and half siblings because their fathers were gay lovers and did some DNA science shit to produce her and put her into her "mom"'s womb.
>>507355504Umineko have 7 votes for "that" tagSo let it sink
>>507355504Japanese
>>507355504I will never be happy
Absolute state of tokyo negro
>>507355418>>507355551Two males having children is something kino and would make "them" consider suicide because it’s impossible. "LGBT issues" in the Western sense are more about prejudice and coping, something Tokyo Necro doesn’t address.
>>507356052pathetic cope. shut the fuck up faggot
>>507356052fuck off Homoyasu
>>507356052>"LGBT issues" in the Western sense are more about prejudice and copingI don't know anything about this shit. That part of the plot being an issue involving faggots is enough to give it that tag.
>>507355504I learned that Key is the best VN company
>>507356169>>507356191>>507356235>mad and no argumentsConcession Accepted, I won.
>>507356282keep crying homono one will accept you here
>>507356282Having faggots means you got the tag. go make a vndb post crying to change it
>>507356374>>507356385you're the homo forcing this shit tag in ToKINO necro thoughever
>>507356454You didn't even read the VN you keep shilling here, retard
>>507355557>kuudere imouto who is secretly a deredere brocon
>>507356385>Having faggots means you got the tag. go make a vndb post crying to change itwhere is the tag for making lovers?
>>507356718go add it
>>507356807There will never be a better male VA.
>>507356807he's not gay.
>>507357004yeahjust a fambloyant noble menMuramasa only have a trap and a girl with a men's voicethus not eligible for "THAT" tag
Every single day some nigger brings up this same tedious, american topic, and every single time he can easily be baited into spamming/flooding by bringing up the same topics related to Muramasa.
>>507357176anons were not even discussing muramasa, the guy brought it out of nowhere because some faggot on vndb added his favorite VNs in a gay tag
>>507357154this, he just loves to wear makeup and dress like a faggot.The monk is gay, and the ninja dresses like a girl for the lulz.That's not gay bro.
why cant we have VNs like Shiki?https://youtu.be/QHPfAB3eDGY
>>507357349Anons were discussing the lgbt tag, which is eligible for Muramasa as well.The schizo just had a meltdown because he likes to make fun of other VNs but can't handle the same criticism when it backfires.
ge where MC insults the heroine for being a non-virgin despite the fact that he's the one who took her virginity?
>>507357397no, the ninja is a girl, according to the art bookher shinogi is voice deception, so she uses her powers to make that oyaji voice
VN where the MC keeps insulting the heroine for being a virgin to the point where she fucks random men to prove him wrong?
VNs are the best!
>>507357608headcanon samefagging with yourself is not what we discussion, det
>>507357795not this dogshit art that's for sure
>>507357868what's wrong with it?? it's pro level
>>507357608It's always the same faggot, not hard to figure out.
>>507356614tokyo homos got really silent after this posthttps://youtu.be/NZj2uMvPCYo?list=PLFIBwSYMckV_SyRJH-mL0d_5M4WyISm1T&t=170
>>507357795Fat schoolgirl ass
>>507356807Straight men can wear makeup too.
>>507357618My memory is a little hazy but I am pretty sure Maya keeps calling Yuuma a virgin for a while after fucking him in Hatsukoi
>>507357397Like you wouldn't try a body like this if you could
>>507358583No, I wouldn't.
>>507358583
>>507357559Sakurai died last year...
>>507357618
>>507358583>Still forcing the narrative
>>507358730ngmi
>>507359302>MTL>"I thought that she was like a female"
>>507359473EOP generalMTL gets to the point, but if you know japanese you can just read the artbook
>>507359629It's not like Det knows even english, since she keeps making headcanons to force trans lore in any VN she likes
>MC has a chill first day at his new school.>Imouto is the one who ends up being dubbed as a pervert by her female dormmates after a misunderstanding.I would pity her but that is just karma for calling her older brother by his first name.
>blondeshitinto the trash it goes
>>507359629Nothing in there implies that he's a girl.
>>507360086Also I'm blind.
If I move all the vns in my external hard drive to an internal hardrive and assign the old letter to the internal drive, will there be any issues?
>>507360460I don't know what any of this means
>>507358809Saku who?
>>507360086Translate the text and post here then
>>507360586Muramasa is untranslatable.
Why was there an NTRge exclusively featuring the white woman of Walkure Romanze 6 years later?
>>507360501Really?
>>507360638It's an artbook with NamanikuATK insights, not Narahara's prose.
>>507360759You think Namaniku's prose is translatable? lol, go ahead. Translate this.
>>507360460No and you don't need to assign the same letters
>>507360837It's a quote from Narahara
>>507360460Yes the drive will explode
>>507360460there shouldn't be
my perfect backstabber tomboy wife
>>507360837
>>507361027>>507360853Thanks.
Happy birthday and Merry Christmas, my lovely wife!!
>>507360051It's your duty as her onii-chan to protect your imouto's reputation
>>507361494>not fanartlol
>>507361280>I never believed that an endless life would be despairThis implies that the scientist wouldn't mind living forever if it were possible. Why did Moggy translate the opposite?
I have never been so betrayed before.I wonder if there is any heroine who actually keeps her pads a secret until you hit the hscene.
>>507361784He improved the original script because it fits better.
>>507361784moogy is hack leftist yurifag who ruined muramasa and the scientist
>>507358748Koutarou? More like FAGGOTarou KEK
KEK so much this KEK
>>507360540zoomzoom.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxUXZ04I8Pc
>>507361784>I never believed that an endless life would be despair>人生が終わらないなんて絶望、一度だって>信じたこたぁねぇよJOP sisters, is this true?
nothing good came out after 2009
kaicho eroii.. eroii sugeru
KEK WHAT A KWAB
>>507362097>when you can't rewrite yourself back
What are the cool kids reading on discord?
>trannager still talking to herselfWhat a sad christmas.
>>507357795
>>507362560>What a sad christmas.Good morning sir.
>>507362304>>507362643>>507362727Never ever
>>507362250If moogy can't translate, no way our n5 JOPs can.
>>507360729Jealousy of how perfect Celia was
Anus x loli
>>507362841Sekai will deliver
shota x loli anus
>>507362728kek
Anon x faceless muscleman
girls kissing girls
>>507362160>im supposed to know a random vocalist otherwise im a zoomerkill yourself retarded faggot
Me kissing traps
>>507363359>>507363437same guy
>>507362250Sigh. Looks like I have to explain it to you EOPbubbies.He says: I never believed in the despair that is a never ending life
>>507363309...during a ffm threesome
>>507362250>>507363518Fucking N5 retardsHe's clearly saying I feel hopeless that my life will never end. I never belived it even once.
>>507363751NaminikuATK clearly used a MTL
>>507362841
Which Madosoft ge is the best?
>>507363309good poster>>507363437poof poster
>>507363518I kneel
「英雄と聖人と愚者だけが己の不死を信じるという。君はそのうちどれなのだ?」「……へ。アホですか?あんた」「人生が終わらないなんて絶望、一度だってしんじたこたぁねぇよ」you need the first part, without context it's hard
>>507364012select oblige has the best art so
>>507364140That's the wrong interpretation
>>507360729Best girls get the NTR
>>507364369What is the right interpretation?
>>507364483He doesn't believe in immortality
>>507325878I saw a screenshot posted from a vn here like a year ago and I can't find it for the life of me even after searching the archives. The user said he just started the game and it opened with an H scene. The screencap he posted looked like a POV of some kind of business woman ontop of the protagonist. Does anyone know which one it is?
>>507364630I never belived it even once.
>>507364483
>>507364630Hikira
>>507360837>>507361280>>507361784>>507362250>>507363518>>507363751>>507363849>>507364140>>507364150>>507364698I still don't get it.
>>507364218I hope they bring them back for their next non-Hamidashi game
>>507364798You never be live (it) even once (1).
>>507364798The scientist when proposed with the idea of immortality, disregards it, because he knows that immortality is hell.
>>507364140The Ushiromiya's family motto
We need more VNs where someone gives the MC a blowjob under the table while he's talking to a different character. And they get caught.
>>507365204It needs to be heroine's brother under the table while MC talks to her.
The "I never believed it even once" is a reply to the white man question "Only heroes, saints, and fools believe in their own immortality. Which one of those are you?"
>>507365347>I never believed it even onceRetarded speedreader. He said "I never belived it even once"
I just want two things for Christmas
No one cares, you mongolian monkeys.
Fuck Ririna and her broscience.
>>507365592That pink is showing me her pantsu...!
Everyone cares, monkeyGODs.
>>507364730This one?>https://vndb.org/v1785It doesn't look like the right one to me.
>>507365347>Which one of those are you?I'm a demon.
>>507365347A scientist.
>>507365738>Fuck RirinaI'm trying
>>507365845No, Qruppo's new kamige.
>>507364630That could be a number of VNs, any other details?
>>507365910but they only made bad vns
>>507365985Hentai Prison is a 10/10 though.
>>507365821I said no.
>>507366049I don't think so, It's just a funny VN. Calling it a 10/10 is a stretch when a lot of other VNs had more impact on the medium.
>>507366276Plenty of "impactful on the medium" VNs are kusoge. Personal enjoyment is all that matters.
>>507366451trvke, popularity and influence aren't always good metrics.
Fate won, rewrite lost. A copy cannot surpass an original.
What vn would you recommend me?
belive is a real word that means to remainso it means he's a nomad who moves from one place to another
>>507366049maybe on ESL art planet
>>507367051Hikira
>>507367123>it's realwtf
>>507365971The lady was in a suit I think, and was the mature type with a giant rack. I think she might have also had long hair or a long ponytail. The poster also implied this was the opening scene or near it atleast. The art style also looked fairly modern. I really can't remember anything else.
>>507365897Isn't she an easy slut? You're not trying hard enough it seems.
I’m in pain and I can’t belive he’s gone.
>>507367051>>507367208seconding
>>507367364quof is still alive
>>507367332Get these hoes off me and my imouto
>>507367332Too many for harem. Two is the ideal size for ffm sex and marriage
Your imouto is gay and she is in love with your female childhood friend.
>>507367762that's fine. she can hide in the closet and watch us.
>>507367762that's fine. the childhood friend can stay locked in the closet watching us.
>>507367263Aoi Tori maybe? Can't remember many other VNs opening with an H-scene recently outside of random nukige.
>>507367762that's fine. ill hide in the closet and watch them.
female characters voice lines distract me because they sounds erotic even when talking about normal everyday stuff... because of that I have to play without headphones if I want to focus on plot 100%seeing girls simply wearing thigh highs also makes me distracted
>>507368402>they sounds erotic even when talking about normalno they dont>simply wearing thigh highs also makes me distractedsame for this though
>>507368402generally not that bad but I do get distracted by the sounds they make when kissing even if it's not an h scene
Gays hate lolis and love traps and knobs.
I'm liking all 4 main girls so far.Never read a yuzuge where I liked everyone before, well this is still chapter 1 so there is time for one or two to get annoying before common ends.
>>507367051OPM webcomic is pretty good.
>>507368937Nothing wrong with the girls, but the routes are pretty lukewarm. Ayase somehow wound up being my favorite in spite of being a disgusting pink.
>>507367762>>507367868>>507367962>>507368349All this.
>>507368937Hazuki best girl
>>507360853I tried moving a folder as a test and it fucked all of the shortcuts. Is there a way to prevent that?
>>507368937As anon said, All the girls are great but some of the routes do them an active disservice.
>>507369601Not really.
ge about NTRing an ojisan and seeing him cry like a little fat bitch?
>>507369645Bummer. I guess I'll just do it very gradually.
Justice for routelets
>>507367332fixed
>>507369771I'm weak to adults crying and retard tears, especially when it concerns their hobbies.
>>507369912based
I liked Hazuki's route because she was forced to choose between love and duty (something very dear to her) even though the stakes weren't very high, it was interesting drama.The other routes were extremely milquetoast.
>>507370239>>507370295watch your second anime
>>507370612on planet retard
>>507369601Just make new shortcuts or go into the shortcut properties and put the new filepath in
/a/sis, watch another anime.
>white noises hoursyay
ESL hours
I love reds
>>507370338I've watched a bunch of anime and death note is still one of the best
I'm liking cafe stella more than riddle joker so far
>riddle joker>no riddles>no jokers
>>507371368Cafe Stella is my favorite yuzuge and is good enough that it probably breaches somewhere into my top 20. The worst heroine of CS (Mei) would have been the star of a 7/10 game.
>Riddle Joker
make sure to give your sister a Christmas gift
>anons reading their yuzuge for the first timeI'm not jealous at all
Best title drop moment in VNs?
Huh?What do you mean?
I always alternate, one moege then one utsuge
>>507371627I bonk her head with a hammer to shorten that long neck
>>507371820Recommend me an utsuge and maybe I'll read it
When will there be a well-written utsuge?
Any more ffm ge like Uchikano?
>>507371932This is a prostitute btw
>>507371619>Cafe Stella is my favorite yuzugereally? usually anons pick SB or DR. CS is certainly is better than what anons usually say about it. Has a nice vibe to it>worst heroine of CS (Mei) would have been the star of a 7/10 gameyeah, she seems alright so far. Still mid-route for her
>>507372084gigolo*
>>507372084kino
>>507372329RJ is my favorite yet anons consistently keep talking it's their least favorite one.
>>507372329SB was a one-heroine game for me. Mako a cute. The other girls were meh. Maybe more importantly, the common route was not very interesting. I think yuzusoft does a better job writing a mostly slice of life story. Cafe Stella stayed in its lane for the most part. I just liked the common route for CS a lot more, and some of the routes were actually very interesting, which is more than what you can ask for from a yuzusoft game.It's been a long time since I played DR, but I don't remember much about it other than a few character quirks of the heroines and Azusa being a butt slut.
>enter girls route>other heroines appearctrl
>>507372329>SBSenren Banka? I'd have said Sanoba Witch was the most popular.Even if I think Senren is better just on rural country vibes alone.
>>507373116Wrong thread senp/a/i
>>507373026I think any other yuzuge did SoL a lot better than CS, even SB. Cafe settings and university students are extremely boring. The VN feels a lot more mechanical than usual for me.
just played/read tiny bunny. its really good and alisa is cute
>>507370693That's what I'm doing, yeah. It's still going to take a long ass time for me either way though.
More european yuzu heroine please
>>507372540RJ is very strong in a few areas (setting, character design, comedy), so I can see why someone would like it a lot. >>507373059>I'd have said Sanoba Witch was the most popularmight be. Usually anons only mention the Nene NTR joke or anti loli touko. I read SW way later than everyone else here probably
VN where you take the european heroines and throw them into the sea?
>>507371640same, yuzuge sucks dick and not in a good way
>>507373653>Usually anons only mention the Nene NTR joke or anti loli touko.That's a shame, Nene has a lot more going for her than her route's ending.
VN where the heroine gives you a present and you throw it away thinking she's not looking but she saw?
>>507373890Meguru moggs her with negative diff
>>507374076speak english faggot third worlder
>>507373116Wrong thread p/a/jeet
ge where you're having Christmas with your wife and children and you unwrap your present to find divorce papers?
slept only two hours because I was reading a vinnie and I've been reading it pretty much non stop for the whole daybeen a while since a vinnie got me this hooked
>>507373890Cute shortie in the background
>>507374139how can you post this without giving the name so I can add another game to my log
>>507374139What vinny?
>>507373653>forgetting wakana's kisses
>>507373808way to miss the point retard
>>507374107get with times, boomer
>>507374195>>507374187Hikira
I wish kuonanon was still our friend
>>507374176English release of her game never.
>doesn't poast the vinnie
>>507373026>SB was a one-heroine game for me. Mako a cute. The other girls were meh.You cannot be serious. You didn't like Murasame's route?>the common route was not very interestingyou're trolling me
>>507374257what you were actually unironic?
>>507373414>>507374114But I got the recommendation here.
>>507374348No, she's way too tiny. It felt like a gross route for pedophiles so I had to drop it and take a break before coming back and doing Mako.
>>507374348He liked Cafe Stella common route (the worst part of any yuzuge I have ever read). This guy is genuinely insane.
>>507325878im alone this Christmas. Recommend a visual novel to binge
>>507374495Oretsuba
>>507374495Marunomi.
shan't read vns.
>>507374495hikira
>>507374679Excuse me, but that's a...
>>507374214I didn't forget. Other anons forgot
>507374679baited retard
>>507374495Tokyo Necro
>>507374679You're actually disgusting. Just sick mentally, PLEASE get help before you hurt someone. I'll pray for you.
VNs that will make me feel like a criminal?
>>507374791Hikira
>>507373653>Usually anons only mention the Nene NTR joke or anti loli touko.Back when SW was newer, Meguru had a lot more fans and her "Poyayaaan" used to get posted a lot. Us Megurubros have unfortunately been on the decline
>>507374773Sorry, not interested in games where the father figures are literal homosexuals.
Do you guys start blind when reading moege or do you use walkthroughs and save the best or true routes for last?
>>507374902I do the girl I like then I drop itThere's no moege that ever has more than 1 heroine I like anyways
>>507374495Hollow Ataraxia
Imagine reading vns lol.
>>507374679Child
>>507375091this, lol. my gf just reads them out for me so I can just close my eyes and get a better experience
vns fags lost. AI chads won. Listening to vns by my AI bot.
>>507374834>Meguru had a lot more fans and her "Poyayaaan" used to get posted a lotThat totally makes sense. It's a cute meme face, and she's adorable.>Us Megurubros have unfortunately been on the declineit's been years now, so it makes sense. Newfags reading it and posting about it would bring back some relevance. I'll draw some of them next year when I get the chance
>>507375370she's ugly and annoying
>>507374834>>507375370Meguru is still the best Yuzuge route for me. I just prefer to read new things instead of being autistic about something daily
>>507373673kinkoi
seeeeeeeeeeeeeeenpai
>>507375420youre ugly and annoying
>>507375767im not meguru
AI bots are better than japs whores.
>>507375787of course not, meguru is cute and cool
>>507375896both are junk. for me it's visual novel
>>507374890Did I stutter?
>>507374679I just came...
>he is reading vnsLol, lmao even.
White whore vs pure jap heroine?
>>507376353both are whores thoughever
>>507376353Hikira
>>507374890Not a problem for the real Tokyo Necro MC
>>507374890why do you hate your father so much?
>>507376635If there's a route to skip there's no point reading the VN at all.
Alright say no more, I will do her first
>>507376730just stop self-inserting as the female GayGOD
>Nukige>Only boring vanilla h-scenesWho is this meant to appeal to?
>>507376915I haven't mentioned her own homosexuality a single time. If you can't properly read /vn/ posts I doubt you can properly read a VN either.
>>507376925me
>>507376860Godspeed anon
>>507376860read her and the black one, then you can drop the VN
>>507376730So you will never read your first VN?
Any comedic rapege besides Rance?
>>507377412Murmasa
>>507377438Sorry, not into VNs where others have sex with the girls instead of me.
>>507377550Why did you read Rance then?
>>507377590avoidable bad endings don't count
>>507377702yeah you don't even read the games you shitpost about lol
stop bringing other VNs in your falseflag shitpost war
>>507377702Dohna Donha bros won.
>>507374365/vn/ is not your personal blog
>>507376730Only the true route matters, the others are fluff to sell a more complete product at full price. This is true for TN, Musicus and most plotge.
God I hate Ryou.
>>507377702>main heroines get raped and mutilated>d-doesn't c-count!!Lol.
>>507341619Childhood friend bros, we are not the worst... Haha...
Every VN should just be linear.
>>507377773she https://vndb.org/u213846/ulist?vnlist=1 didn't read Rance
>>507374461The route for SB was dogshit. The setting? yeah, very interesting. Basically an isekai. Good music, BG, etc. but the route was awful.>CS route was badfixing up the cafe with your harem that hates you and/or thinks you are a pathetic loser and forcing them to accept you as being actually competent was kino
>>507378503that'd be great if it actually felt like anyone hated you
>>507378309no, flowchart good
>>507378274everyone dies and it's game over retard bro, if IX bad endings were canon there wouldn't be X.
>>507378594rape happens in good endings in the other games, retardbro
>>507378594still cuckshit for cucks
Nozomi's fat
>>507378720...getting chopped up, turned into mystery stew and thrown into the ocean
>>507378683cuckshit for people who go out of their way to see it
>>507376925oinks
VN where your little brother has sex with the heroine while she's pregnant with your baby
>>507374461>He liked Cafe Stella common route (the worst part of any yuzuge I have ever read)Personally I think Sanoba Witch's common route was the worst. I remember it being so boring that it was actually putting me to sleep
We need more VNs like Schatten where the heroines randomly just get raped in both canon and non-canon sex scenes out of nowhere during the story
Brocon imoutos are the best!
>>507378071Dohna Dohna rape defeat is kino. It appeals to both vanillafags for being non-canon and straight men for having hot scenes. More VNs should be like this.
>>507379573>third person shithomocuck shit
ge with avoidable rape where your vanilla h-scene dialogue with the heroine changes if you let her get raped before?
>>507379686this but she kills herself and the story moves on without her
VN where the protatonist wants to die but can't?
>>507379631Seeing a girl being drugged, raped, and puking is peak testosterone. Homos just can't understand anything beyond surface level vanillashit that 13y little twinks jerk off to.
why janny doesn't kill this retard spamming ge with? VNs where ?
>>507379949https://vndb.org/v8311
Why did maids die in vns?
>>507379573Amy vn with opitonal bad endigs or non-canon routes fit the bill. Yuka gangbang in GSS is super hot but she only belongs to MC in canon route.
lmao these outfits
>>507381173I can see their bare hips...
>>507381173Who is best walkure?
>>507381797the pit slut
>>507380640he did before
>>507326373I still say they're cowards for no threesome.
>>507381797Lisa
I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!
>fandisc includes a short story with all the heroines and OSTs from the past company moege worksIt's insane how high quality the heroines, voices, and songs from 2000s were. I think I'll only read oldge from now on.
>>507381797
>>507382413Brat...
>>507381797I don't know yet, I've only met one of them. I kind of have the hots for the cousin, though.
>>507382413i'll be honest, i dont really like lisa, and she really pissed me off in the part where her bitch (who i really want to correct btw) friend feeds her lies about mc (after they had already fucked once) and she buys it without a single doubt
>>507383128>cafe-cum-pub
>>507383363I find the romance and how it became to pretty believable, hence why I like her more than the other heroines
>>507383584at least top 3 yuzuge girls if not top 1
>>507383584She was better before.
https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1282692531.htmDoomer thread is up.
>>507380640They're on-topic.
So what the fuck was the point of Kyou cutting her hair? That made no sense.
>>507384291
>>507384753So much this. VNs for this feel?
>>507384020she didn't anal before
>>507384650dramatic hair cut used to be a trope, thankfully it died off
It's like they're twins or something!
>>507384650I kinda wanted to see a Kyou after story after seeing her in Clannad's after story
Then why did you fucking cut it in the first place!?
Any VNs where the heroine catches your imouto raping you in your sleep?
>>507385513women will go to great lengths to shit test a man
Only 10 more years until we get realistic AI companions.
>>507385820More like 30 years. I wish it'd come sooner
>>507364150JOP here and that is a wacko sentence don't even bother. I am sure it's from some chuunige
Moege. I'm thinking Marika, HoshiOri.
>>507385918it's from a moege
>>507385858For robot waifus, yeah. But I was thinking about a personal heroine that's inside your phone.
>>507384650>>507385123>>507385513She really got fucked over by her shit "route"And she won't get an after story either since apparently it's even more of an utsuge than Tomoyo's one
>>507386285so key is worthless garbage, got it
>>507386083Then that means the sentence can be quite literal, like from a vampire or something then it will make sense
>>507386327What ate you tlaking abuot?
>>507386285>apparently it's even more of an utsuge than Tomoyo's oneGo on...
>>507386327can you explain it for us? it's 2 guys talking
>>507386452They'res nothing pseciala abotu it. TIs just normal .
Should I reread Muramasa or read a random moege for Christmas?
>>507386782>rereadDoesn't even occur to me, unless it was like a decade ago
>>507386934yeah but I'm out of plotge
Is daemon tools still the chosen way to mount isos? Haven't really touched VNs since I was forced to upgrade to win10.
>>507387341ImgDrive
instead of rereading old stuff, you could be learning Japanese so that you can read more VNs
>>507387706im rereading in japanese though
>>507387828
0721
>>507388041hehes in jop
>>507388041idgi
>>507388369What? Why did you reply to me?
>>507386452MTL does it and it's not wacky because it is MTL, the sentence itself is funny.
>>507387828>Big sister?>Sakura... Your... Eye color... Is the same... As mine...!TL: in Korean culture, it is common to refer to people you're close to as family members, even if you're not actually related. So calling someone "big sister" doesn't necessarily imply a blood relation, but could simply mean that these characters are very close.
>>507388691
>>507388691But they are blood sisters and are close (at least after HF)
>>507388728sorry i only read Korean>>507388832no idea what you're talking about or what that comic is from. just wanted to translate it.
>>507346320i'm unsure if you're just reddit cool niggering, in which case you are now updooted, but christmas in the 21st century is more or less only about maintaining another specific holiday spirit, not practicing worship
>>507388961Any VNs similar to Gangnam Style?
>>507388961Gotcha, thanks anyway. Kind of rare to see someone who hasn't read Fate here
>>507388407I thought you'd get it
>>507389174moege general
>>507389212Much like you, he didn't get it.
Any VNs where you go on a roadtrip?
>>507389132This is basically Korean Danganronpa. On the surface, it's a murder-mystery, but the deeper "message" of the game is actually a commentary upon the Korean entertainment industry.
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>>507389387Highway Blossoms
>spoiling the most well known VN
>>507389418Thanks, backlogged.
>>507389220Fate is a moege
>>507389542damn this art looks like vomit
>>507389597you looks like vomit
>>507389597Maybe on planet blind
>>507389597for >>507385123>>507384650
I'm going to post a JOP thread!
>>507390053Hikira thread onegai...
>>507389542I like the art style from this time period. Not too hard to replicate
Goodbye
>>507390147>>507390147>>507390147
why the retard couldn't make a christmas edition
>>507390268no one gives a shit about your fake holiday
>>507390268It's not Christmas yet
>>507390312science'd that
>>507390312shalom>>507390338it is in places that matter
>>507389597Saber is the most beautiful person in Fate. You in comparison look like vomit
>>507391229garbage character in a garbage game with garbage artsimple as
>>507381797Celia by a mile