Angry Rabbit editionMarvel Rivals is a free to play 6v6 team-based, character-based third person shooter developed by Netease and published by Marvel Entertainment where the player can pick from Marvel heroes and villains from across the multiverse and battle it out in a myriad of PvP gamemodes, future characters, maps, balance patches and cosmetics are planned.>NewsLaunch Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QtF-z25nIASeason 0 Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCJbGUsUkcLeaked Upcoming Characters: http://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/12/05/the-8-leaked-marvel-rivals-heroes-that-will-join-the-33-launch-heroes/Latest Patch Notes: www.marvelrivals.com/m/gameupdate/20241216/41548_1200114.htmlChristmas Event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be5Err7ygLs>LinksWebsite: http://www.marvelrivals.com/Guides, tips, tricks and news: marvelrivals.gg/Tierlist rivalstracker.comSteam Store Page: store.steampowered.com/app/2767030/Marvel_Rivals/Gift Code for a free Ironman skin: nwarh4k3xqyPrevious Thread: >>507306198
Delete hela, hawkeye, luna and mantis or the game is dead in 2 months.
>>507343704Mantis thread!
i recoil physically when i hear luna ult
>>507343806Hela and Hawkeye are already permabannedLuna and Mantis get deleted by IronmanGame is healthy
>>507343908>game is healthy because there's characters with 200% ban rates in diamond comp where less than 2% of the playerbase is playing Please tell me you're not actually this delusional
*ruins your video game*
Sex with Mantis
Based Mantis OP
I wish his ult had a build up bar that told you how Overloaded it was actually getting. Twice now I've had a Punisher just spraying into my ult and it pops before I even notice
>>507344005QP is full of actual aiThe game was never alive in the first place
>>507344075>I wish his ult had a build up bar that told you how Overloaded it was actually getting.It does, it's just hard to see since it's on the lower part of your screen and white.
Healing for my frens!
>>507344034Is it just me, or does she look like Dafne Keen here?
>>507344034>AI slop
>get to diamond>my ability to play magik is falling apart because the enemy teams are too coordinated and concentratedthis was not in the contract
Our response, Thorsisters?
I AM GROOT
Imagine failing the VA audition for Groot
>5 dps team>dps complains about teami used to fill but at this point i don't care i'm just going to play what i want, why should i be the one to switch roles
<insert futa Magik copypasta here>
>>507344379comics are dumb
>>507344397Not since Yugoslavia was a thing, no. Why do you ask?
>>507344379everyone lift Mjolnir at this point
>>507344075it's right there blindbro...
>>507344443It is better to be the one forced to play healer than to force another to be healer.true and honest healgods understand this.
two schizos camping the bump limit every thread now
>>507344379If the symbiote is some God being thing or whatever why does Venom still have the Secret wars black Spiderman outfit design? On the outside looking in Venom seems so far removed from Spider-Man
>>507344010Mantis doesn't even have a season bonus and is ruining the game. >>507344438Groot has the best voice acting in the game. More words isn't better. Everything Galatica, Peni, Mantis, Luna and Scarlet Witch say sounds awful.
Only because the first schizo is.He didn't even make it correctly.Letting the other schizo win will do nothing but make standards slip.>off-topic image>wrong thread nameetc
>>507344657I'm only aware of the ai retard and the discord tranny.
>>507344605Nice
will you play him?
>>507344657the AI fag is a Multiversus refugee.
>Dagger>EmmaHopefully they add Gwen too
>>507344908yes
>7 game loss streak >in 5 of those there was a leaver(s)>after every 2nd/3rd loss there is a bot match at least I get to farm achievements, I guess
On a scale from 1 to 10 how fucked is Overwatch
>>507344798meant for >>507344657
>>507345093they're so desperate they had to give out 7 free skins
>I AM READY TO PUT ON A SHOW!!!
>>507344908>healerNope lol >>507345093OW doesn't need to put bots in it's quickplay games so not very I would guess.
>>507344908I'll be forced to sooner or later
>>507344729Short answer is Venom itself is still a super yandere stalker for Spidey so it keeps the look out of love/spite. Long answer is it was retconned to being the symbol for Knull himself, it's supposed to be a multi-legged space dragon, or something
>>507345093about as fucked as fortnite was when apex got big
>>507344443NetEase stated they have no plans for adding role queue, but made a game where you have over double the choices for DPS heroes compared to supports. Oh, and every team comp requires at least 2 supports :^) At least the tanks in this game aren't overpowerd like in OW.
>>507344908>Ultron>healerUnironically yes
>>507345201>"Jarvis, post "lol, lmao"">"Maximum PULSE"
>>507344908Definitely
>>507344908Yes but it's going to be hard week 1. Everyone is going to instalock him.
*1v6 and dies*
>>507344908He'll be my new one trick.
>>507345531>strange and magneto in that pilehearty kek. I'm in silver and already seeing it get cucked more often than not.
>>507345565but everyone is going to instalock The Human Torch instead
>>507345726>human torchLiterally who cares about that nerd
>>507345386>>Oh, and every team comp requires at least 2 supports :^)I don't think the game necessarily _needs_ rolequeue but it definitely needs to figure out a solution to this issue specifically. Min 1 max 3 doesn't fix it because solo heals is just infinitely worse than 2 healer. 0-4-2 is probably about 1000x more likely to win than any version of x-x-1 or x-x-0
>>507345029>blonde bitchRedheads have more fun
>>507344010>get used to play a character in a certain way>arbitrary season changes and now the character is useless/his counter is much strongerWho the fuck thought this was a good idea? This is insane.
I don't get why you guys say Hulk is weak, I've been playing him and he's insanely good
>>507345992>Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? This is insane.A chinese phone game company.
>>507344010thorbröthers.. its over
>>507346053He isn't weak, he's just niche.
>>507344379>>507344589comis are a race to the bottom with every cool concept or theme
What is the closest character to Winston? Hulk?
anyone else think this game will die out in february? whats so difficult about tuning down some numbers for certain heroes?
>>507345992to keep the game fresh
add her
>>507345029All made for superior Wakandan men
>people keep whining about role queue and needing specific lineups>when the most common lineup is 1-3-2, followed by 2-2-2 and 0-4-2
>>507346207probably venom>jump in>use defensive>annoy backline>jump (swing) away when low
>>507346242new content, maps and heroes keep the game fresh
>>507346207Venom. Jump in -> shield at medium/low hp -> try to get a kill -> jump outHe's much harder to play though because his gun doesnt autoaim and needs to headshot to kill squishies in 2 hits
>>507346236Devs are afraid of making big changes after overwatch
>>507346330the roles are now "2 supports" and "the rest"
>>507346430huh? overwatch literally died because a cancerous meta lasted way too long due to no changes
if you have 3+ in any role then you just know you're in a human lobby
>>507346053He isn’t weak he isn’t the best he gets banned literally just because of his synergy in higher elos which is kind of lame with how good strange is right now
>>507346330How is role queue and problem with that? Role queue doesn't mean every game is 2-2-2
>>507346236>paladins will cease support>overwatch is bleeding players and support is being reduced>yet somehow marvel rivals will die in february because anon is upset about current game balance
>>507346053everyone was playing the characters as generic tanks/dps/healers. it's also the devs fault because they didn't put things like how logan does damage in game
>>507346236The game feels like it's tapering off with the more I don't want to say serious but the "not literally 10 years old" audience. I suspect it's mostly down to the balance, matchmaking and lack of content like maps so the shiny new toy effect wears off quicker with adult audiences. Rivals doesn't really offer that much different than any other game. >>507346871>t's also the devs fault because they didn't put things like how logan does damage in gameeven if you understand how he works. he's basically useless solo queue and then you have characters like hawkeye and mantis who are just better tank killers anyway. bans aren't a viable solution for broken characters because a very small amount of people will be in diamond to even make use of them.
Imagine wanting to nerf Hela and Hawkeye when they're keeping Luna/Mantis in check
>>507346465??????How is that a problem. Depending on what heroes are released you could probably roll more tanks and fewers supports depending on their kit.Is tank/dps/healer structure bad? Yes. But the game has it and not having healers in most/all matches makes no sense.>>507346586>How is role queue and problem with that?Because it's not needed and wouldn't even allow 2-2-2 and 1-3-2, which are the two most common lineups.Crying about role queue as if 0-6-0 was super common is dumb. You want a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
I'm almost gold spamming wolverine and occasionally swapping to ironman or moon knight if they dont have 2 tanks
>>507347105Imagine thinking that's even true and even if it was also thinking people who want to nerf Hela don't also want to nerf Mantis.
>>507346291Dagger is already taken cat boi
>>507343704>Ignore Role Queue posters>Ignore Overwatch posters>Ignore Ded Game posters>Ignore Bots in Every Match postersThese people are not your friends. They are thread-terrorists.
>>507347405Same with discord-fags and people posting off-topic images in the OP
>>507347105and ironmanwithout hela ironman runs wild
>>507345852The devs basically followed OW's design, which was already stupid as fuck for a team shooting game. I feel like they're betting on good faith participants that will naturally fill roles as needed. But that only happens at the top of matchmaking. I've only played 5 comp matches, but I've already had a game where the other support swapped off to be the 4th DPS, leading to a lost match.
I can't believe they didn't add a baby Peni mode like dva, in the movie she uses her robot arm as as weapon after it's destroyed
>>507347405What ya think about me? Am I your friend? Anon?
>>507347405All posts like this does is invite bad faith posters to start bringing up those topics instead of the people who are actively trying to look towards solutions to problems the game has. If you want to go full no negativity in the dojo you might like the marvel rivals official discord more where they ban you for saying seasonal buffs are stupid.
>>507347676With benefits, sure.
>>507347405>>507347467Do your duty to thread and country>>507347692shut up faggot
>>507347578Whining about outliers as if they were the norm is dumb. In many cases those matches are still winnable and people do win them in games.In 6000 Dota 2 matches I can't even remember how many times I got some clown whining at the picking stage about not having the perfect lineup or only meta heroes, yet we still won. Most likely said clown will forget all about those matches and whine every single time, flame and possibly even give up at the picking screen.
>>507347074>Mantis>Tank killerNani
here's your meta shifting anti-heal champ
>>507347676You're a faggot
>>507347578>I feel like they're betting on good faith participants that will naturally fill roles as needed.That's not only stupid because that's never happened in any game ever (especially when there's going to be a natural surplus of DPS) but doubly stupid in a game that uses famous Marvel characters for it's heroes. I doubt the guy who downloaded the game because he saw he could play as Spider-Man or Punisher is going to be all that excited about the idea of playing whatever the hell a "Luna Snow" is. It's almost like the devs never even played one of these games before because they're making mistakes that like 20 other games already did and had to learn to deal with or die.
>>507347578>I've already had a game where the other support swapped off to be the 4th DPS, leading to a lost match.this happens way too often and i don't know what goes through their head thinking it would help and not learning that it never does
>>507347984Ignore the retarded shitters. They failed basic math.
>>507348036If she can kneecap Luna's ult, you'll be seeing her every game
>>507348036>gets 100% ban ratefun
>losing>pick hawkeye>winheh nothing personal
>>507348098They probably thought filling for 3+ selfish players wouldn't be an awful experience.
The only thing that Netease needs to do to maintain interest is give us a fucking release date for the next hero/map/patchI can't even count how many games would and have benefited from simply being open about their plans.
Top 3 girls?
>>507347579Because Hulk is the D.Va equivalent, Peni is actually closer to hamston
without luna and mantis ult it feels like whoever farms dps ults first wins
>>507348331my hotwife is best girlyou'll know who she is because she's the sluttiest of the bunch
>>507348331Luna
>>507348364Hulk isn't D.VAHe's more like a Doom jumping around the map and annoying everyone even his own team
What the actual fuck are you supposed to do against a halfway decent Magik, even as another brawler? She just dodges everything with her gay portals and even if you do manage to get some damage in, she recoups it in the form of bonus health from ability usage.
hurry up and release my main
>>507348331Magik, Psylocke and Storm
>>507348331Mantis MOGS all three.
>>507348410My diveslut hotwife has yours beat. UGH i know. Sorry!!
>>507348486>Stormnot with that godwaful haircut
>>507348371Most ults have counterplay. Even without strange. >>507348471You healbot whoever she's hitting until she runs out of portals basically.
Please buff the raccoon.
>>507348537but anon,,,, (You) are my hotwife...
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur On spawn you control Devil Dino with Moon Girl on his back. Biggest tank in the game but bulky with a very simple moveset including melee bites and swings, and the ability to pop off some ranged damage using Moon Girls bubble blaster.Shift ability let's Moon Girl jump off of Devil Dinosaurs back and skate around the map, continuing to damage with her blaster but also unlocking further damage and movement optionsWhile Moon Girl is separated from Devil Dino, DD is still able to capture the objective, deal damage with simplified automated melee attacks, and even follow a payload. He has an incredible health pool, but can also be killed by tracking down the Moon Girl, sending both back to respawn if you eliminate her.
>>507348486*upvoting this post*
>>507348371You can outplay a large amount of dps ults besides hela. You can’t outplay pressing q
Just hit the platinum rank today, is it good for someone who never touched hero shooters?
>>507348098>this is a loss so I might as well play someone fun instead of filling to try and win
>>507348331Little boys choose Magik, SG or LunaMen choose Wanda
>>507344908No I want to play Reed Richards.
>>507348606What's a "raccoon"?
>>507345386Just put a cap of 3 hero type per team, it still allows for more team comps like 1-3-2, 2-2-2, 1-2-3, etc. No more games of 4-5 dps and 1 healer
>>507348539Sorry bro but white outfit Storm is fine as hell even with the choice in cut
>>507346236It won't die out by February but I can see the playerbase halving by the 1st year anniversary. Just like >>507347074 said, the playerbase that's most likely to stick is kids/pre-teens, so expect a lot more 1-5 Iron Fists. It still has to compete against CoD, Fortnite, Valorant which are all games where you're less team dependent than Overwatch w/ capes.>>507348064That's exactly what happened with most of my friends>"oh cool Spider-Man is playable">Spider-Man ends with 2000 damage in a full match
>>507348318Season 1 starts early january. Obviously this will see bigger updates, since that's even when the game was originally supposed to be released.
>>507348717this also he is a vanguarddeal with it! :)
>>507348618Very cool thanks anon. I'm staying overtime at work today btw.
>>507348486>StormNobody plays Storm get outta here with that
I hate Luna Snow so fucking much
>>507344397Can't believe even the fucking talking tree is getting MeToo'd
It's so funny seeing people doom about Rivals player numbers as someone who's come from only playing fighting games with less than 2k people. Rivals having 25k players is more than enough. this shit isn't going anywhere.
Do people genuinely like the Fantastic 4 they're so fucking boring and only have dr. doom going for them
>>507348539>muh generic anime waifuget outta here with that trash
>>507344397You can't just say that! Yes! It DID happen and NO they did NOT "deserve it"!!
>>507348945remind me what your job is again, where do you work
>>507348786>CoD, Fortnite, ValorantCompletely different playerbases with barely any overlap.Even without MR I wouldn't touch any of them with a 10 foot pole and that's true for a lot of people.
>>507349035This
>>507348364I know, I don't like it.
>>50734903525k isn't that high when you need 12 people of similar skill though. Fighting games only needs 2 people and it's more normal to play with people with wildly different skill levels.
>>507349108Cleaning maid for rich ugly bastards. Marvel Rivals please give Magik's portals some vertical climb
>>507349065Yes
>>507349297okay i remember now, you also work part-time as an elementary teacher, a dog trainer, a homeless counselor and a stripper in the hoodi love my wife
>I am Groot>I am Groot>"I am Groot, I am Groot">I am Groot>"I AM GROOT, I AM GROOT!">I am Groot>I am Groot I am Groot?
>>50734906570s Fantastic Four is literally peak sci-fi. They have their moments outside of that too for sure.
>>507349065I like thing and mr.fantastic. the siblings have always been the weaker side of the 4
>>507349554Now i see what must be done. Thank You, Groot.
would you guys play inhouses if we started doing them?
>>507348539Need those lips around my dick
>>507349261>25k isn't that highThe fuck are you smoking.I'm so sick and tired of these doomposters. Before you shitters there were the tortanic posters that said for literally every single game being released they would flop and when they got 1/100 right they say hurr murrr told ya.It's nothing more than unfilitered shitposting. The lowest quality of posts.
>>507349261Rivals won't ever reach those numbers and even if it did they'd just expand the search pool if it became an issue.
>>507349538I will shit up the thread no further but those first three tell me you have excellent taste. Have a great day! <3
>Hitscan shurikens that shred both at range and close up>A damaging dash>Invisibility for superior positioning and peel>Ult that kills teams and makes her invincible during itDefend this kit. Fucking defend it.
Fantastic Four are carried by their villains
>>507349623what does sue even do aside from invisibility
>>507349860ngh...not even tag? or moving to the thread on THAT board?
>>507347405>1. wanting a feature that's not wanted by everyone >2. shitposting >3. shitposting >4. actual objective problem with the game based retard
>>507349869Shitters are too busy complaining about Hawkeye and Luna to care about Psylocke.
>>507349869She's cute and my wife so it's okay
>>507349869honestly the rest of her kit is whatever its her m1 thats insane to me
>people talking lat thread about fucking psylocke with posh british accent>watch movie>has a chinese girl speaking thick british accentwhat are the oods
>>507348836He was confirmed DPS
>>507348606>play RR on any map with stairs>he can't shoot up stairs because of some funky 3rd person viewmodel shitWho the fuck was testing this game??
>>507349869Nah you're right, the people who claim she's skillful are full of shit too. >>507349932Her main thing is force fields. The invisibility is just a side ability because of how her power works. She can make a protective bubble around her family and protect them from a nuclear bomb. She can also basically flatten things like a giant hydraulic press but that doesn't get brought up as often.
>>507349809WTF is Banana?
>>507350284>Who the fuck was testing this game??it was me sorry
>>507349698
>>507349809I fucking hate Steamcharts faggotry when it comes to fighting games. Especially now rollback and crossplay are common features.
>>507349297If Magik's teleport worked like Wanda's vanish I'd play her a lot more
>>507349869Her ult wouldn't be so bad if not for the HUGE range it has and she can move during it
>>507350284>Who the fuck was testing this game??I thought I was when I got in the beta but they didn't listen to none of that shit I said like incorrectly positioned camera or how rocket can't shoot over ledges (the red crosshair doesn't even show up.) Not to mention the obvious balance issues everyone identified like Luna ult, Hela in general, etc
>>507350295Reminder hulk shattered her barrier when she tried to suffocate him
Fanatsric Four haters GTFO
>>507349698What are those? I tried getting a group together once but no one replied. Let me know in advance and I can join.
>>507349974>actual objective problem with the game
there has to be an option to skip all of the cutscenes you have already seen
Psylocke 69 WIP https://files.catbox.moe/l04duv.png I want to get Mantis next but I dunno what outfit or scene, any help?
>>507350487>hulk has some retarded plot armor that makes no sense instance #589432
>The Fantastic Fourdidn't you guys chart in the 60s?
>>507350284>play squirrel>all her abilities bounce off random shit off the groundThe maps needs to be more simplified, as I've gotten stuck on various shit aswell
Why did Sue Storm give birth to a child God mode powers? Sue and Reed's son could solo Saitama and Superman prime with one hand tied behind his back
>>507351002The maps being really overdesigned is pretty classic of china. They can't make it good so they just add more shit to it like every map needing a gimmick. >>507351125Because comics
Why are we caring about player numbers when they've already solved that issue? That's what the bots in QP are for. Based NetEase for thinking of everything!
is it just me or are doctor strange and adam warlock hard to tell apart from mid-long range
Ironbros, I have a questionTony's F is pretty useless for the most part, only really used for destroying the environment. So if you could change his F, what would you change it to (weapon or otherwise)
>compared to strange cap's shield is smaller, weaker, takes longer to recharge, has a longer delay between being able to pull it out after putting it away and can't be used during a bunch of his moves, even though cap is the shield guy and strange is just a wizard that can do anything the devs wantedmake it make sense
If you hate on the Fantastic Four you just don't get the genre of superhero comics.
How would you design Quicksilver without making him absolute cancer?
gay sex with adam warlock
>>507351480make him a mix between iron fist and spider man, but give him thor's hammers? idk
>>507351480>how do you design someone who should be able to just 1-shot everyone instantly
>>5073490751: it's just storm with short hairstorm never had "black person hair" she always had straight hair she occasionally put in punk style.2: "generic" post a single anime character that looks like that.
>>507349297Do the dash at an angle, then use portals.
>>507350798dude he went from really angry to super mega angry. Anything is possible at that point
>>507351383Is his F his laser?
please please PLEASE let me filter out the koth gamemode
>>507350601yes, chinks put bots in their games to increase engagement with kids and mindbroken wagies
>>507351790They're halfway to controlling the mission area
>>507349932She's like a Green Lantern except instead of green hardlight it's invisible hardlight.
I literally cannot stop thinking about sex with psylocke
>We are getting The Thing before JuggernautWorst timeline
>>507351432ye but cap can deflect stuff so haha
>>507351463fantastic four comics are only interesting because of the characters and the wacky science shit, their actual fucking superpowers are almost never relevent outside of the odd "oh no I'm a freak =(" drama that nobody likes compared to "richards invents some insane shit to deal with some insane space thing that's going to destroy the earth, sidestory where ben shows how based he is"fantastic four would literally be improved if you removed the superhero stuff because then you don't have to constantly go "why doesn't reed richards just invent something that resolves the problem spiderman/xmen/avengers are having, is he incompetent or just evil?"and because of this, they're FUCKING BORING for a VIDEO GAME that exists entirely to slap action figures together with cool powers. there's a reason why they've never made a marvel vs capcom game
>>507351882This but Luna
i think the game wants me to play tank
>>507350762>default costume Fucking based
>>507351480Isn't the reason why the MCU killed off Pietro Maximoff was because his super speed was a Story-Breaker Power?
>>507351930Bro getting any of the F4 before 90% of Marvel's roster is a crime
>>507351742His F is his rockets
>>507350762not my cup of tea but I appreciate the fact we're getting some in-thread drawfags!
>>507351990Do you think her pubes are black and white?
>Ghost Rider is added>When he uses Penance Stare on you, you're shown your highlight from a match you gargled cock at
>>507350284This is how all 3rd person shooters are made. The projectiles spawn from the characters guns, not from the center of your screen.If you draw a line from the character to the crosshair location, that's how the projectiles travel.
Soon. And he will make you seethe.
>>507352173better question.Which eye is her actual eye color and which is the heterochromia?Is she black haired or white naturally?
>>507349698Yes but I'm eu and I assume 90% of thread is amerifriends like every other general
>>507351125Cosmic rays are a hell of a drug, son
I got the team wipe achievement :)
>>507352274ye once he gets here I'll probably be mad over how the game still doesn't have a fun tank
>>507352237>Penance Stare will just be a big fiery circular explosion that does a bajillion damage>When it could be a 1hko close range grabsad!>>507349698I might but the potential for people being mean to me is too high :(
Just bought the most expensive currencey and sploodged on a bunch of outfits. I still have some credits left over for future costumes
>>507352237Penance Stare will be a High Noon equivalent
>Playing Hulk>Have a pocket Jeff>Enemy team has a Hulk and his pocket Jeff>We clash at the objective and just wail on eachother while our Jeffs keep us topped up>Looks like a fucking slapstick comedy skitWhoever you were, Hulkbro, you're the man for sticking to the bit.
>>507352464thanks for keeping your blog updated! how do i subscribe
>>507351882This is what your Psylocke canonically looks like today.
>>507352464Which skins?The thread will decide your taste.Don't be a coward.
>>507352560not exactlyher japanese body is also alive and well and shes actually psylocke now
>started playing vanguard>start winningreally makes you think
>Dormammu, I've come to bargainYour response?
how many active jeff event missions can i have at a time? can i just let a dozen of them stack up?
>>507352541Hit that notification bell to be notified of my next blog.>>507352580Moon Knight suitClassic Psylocke GotG Mantis And Magneto paid skin
>>507352693I'M OPENING A PORTAL
>>507352560This is also Psylocke. Either way it doesn't matter since the one in game is Sai who never showed up past the Demon Days comics.
>>507351383Missiles (forma de lock on)
>>507351675this but spiderman
>>507352693CHAOTIC FLAMEBURN TO CINDERS
>>507352560put on the sexo outfit
>>507352693j.5S, land, 2L > 5M > 5H > 6H xx 214S, 9XX > 3XX xx j.5M > j.5H > j.5S (whiff), rejump, j.5M > j.5H > j.5S, rejump, j.5M > j.5H > j.5S, land, 5M > 5S sjc. j.5M > j.5M > j.5H > j.5S, land 623X xx 236XX
>>507352693>>507352893POWER OF THE POWER OF THE POWER OF THE
these are definitely the quests of all time
>>507352979https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScIu5qrMaxQ
>>507352981upvoted
>>507352412i got something you can wipe
>>507352693https://youtu.be/_6mDxjG49K8
>>507352774This is all so confusing. I'm glad they went with the Elseworld version of Psylocke.
>>507352958Rival's makes me want a MvC 4 so bad and I'm not even a MvC fan.
>>507352412same sister!
Everyone should have hitscan or everyone should have projectiles. This approach of some having projectiles and some having hitscan just makes people overuse the ones that feel better to play, and that's invariably the hitscan characters.
>>507351432I don't have an issue with Cap's design. It's one of the better ones in the game.He's a brawler that rushes in and his shield isn't even big. The most distinct aspect about his are his shield bounces, so much so other media even copied it after the Marvel movies.Cap only needs a slight boost to his damage. Maybe reducing the ricochet cone so you can more easily try to deflect projectiles back.
I think the battle pass not being FOMO is amazing. With the success of Rivals hopefully it'll become industry standard in other games.
>>507352765>>507352893>>507352958>>507352979>>507353120>Dormammu, I've come to bargainYour response?
For the people that want gwen. What exactly would be different about her to normal Spiderman gameplay wise? Even miles has a few different tricks
>>507352686I've been playing solo vanguard for like a week now and I'm in 9 game loss streak.
>>507352764Good taste.Why they made the red and purple for Magneto a paid skin I will never know.That'd be like forcing Ironman players to pay to have Red & Gold.>>507353383>Cap only needs a slight boost to his damage. Maybe reducing the ricochet cone so you can more easily try to deflect projectiles backidk bwo, he's the worst vanguard by a mile
>all the Star-Lord skins are the gayest shit everFUCK
Playing this game with my friends makes me want to say slurs
>>507353383You're telling me MCU invented the shield bounce for Cap?
>>507353431she could heal with symbiote
>>507349869When I personally play as psylocke I can't do shit so clearly she needs buffs, after all, there's no way I'm bad at the game!
>>507353524>Why they made the red and purple for Magneto a paid skin I will never know.i hate that his portrait is the white version
>>507353430You thought it was Dormammu, it was actually Loki.YOUR POWERS ARE MINE.Doctor Strange, I've come to bargain.Your response?
Game deserves to die in pain for not having Doom playable honestly
>>507353431The gwen I want would be nothing like spiderman
>>507353551Default should have been red with blue as the cheevo skin, not the other way around.
>>507353407it's still fomo
>>507353518Fucking this. I switched back to punisher and won with 30+ KO's
just ordered pizza, who should i play?
>>507353675I AM MY SCARS
>>507353569same, goddamnhow do 3 people instalock healer and then theres no heals
>>507353407It is fomo though? You have to buy it when it's current and the currency resets.
>>507353684Doom is weird.Everything, from the story to the lore to the roster to the interactions says Doom would either be in at release or as the first character and yet we know Ultron is the first post-release character with the Fantastic Four not far behind, presumably he is after the five I listed but Emma Frost already has abilities whereas we've seen nothing about Doom so he's probably not even being played in-house yet.
>>507345093Between this and TF2 absolutely shit stomping them with a comic release, it's dead, Jim
>>507353675
>>507353815The tmnt
I want her in the game for coomer reasons only. Never had a comic characters made me more diamonds than Cindy.
>>507353524>idk bwo, he's the worst vanguard by a mileAgain, his kit is fine, it's the numbers that are off.I could maybe see him getting some more CC outside of his Ult. But he really doesn't need much.>>507353573>You're telling me MCU invented the shield bounce for Cap?No, but popularized it and presented it visually in a good way that looks cool.
Storm bros, how long am I gonna have to wait to be able to play her in comp without getting accused of throwing?
>>507353407It's fomo still, it'll disappear if you don't buy it and the currency will reset to zero when the next BP releases
>>507353935It would make all the sense in the world to have Doom 2099 be the NPC only big bad who's putting the multiverse at risk and have Doctor Doom be the playable one
>>507354020TURTLES COUNT IT OFF
>>507353815spidey, duh
If Doom becomes playable he better have>FOOT-FOOTDIVE
What's your rank /mrg/
>>507353815ENTER
>>507352560>roman cape>futiristic space marine armor>no curvesAnd people wonder why manga is winning.
>>507353815The one and only
Any Psylocke mods?
>>507354302Gold 3 because I only played ranked for the Moon Knight skin and i've played quickplay ever since.
>>507354280Was silver 3 demoted to bronze 1 today
>>507354335HE STOLE THAT GUY'S PIZZA
>>507345992I like to think that, depending on how the buffs are, some might stick around and not get reverted. I really can't picture playing half the vanguards without their current HP and while Hawkeye is annoying, when he loses his damage bonus he's gonna really be a worse widow since he's shooting projectiles instead of hitscan
>>507353873>Solo healing>They're all ignoring the enemy iron fist and constantly LoSing me when Im trying to heal them>Someone zero damage when we have 4 dps>Punisher sits on his turret ignored by the entire team DESPITE VOICE COMMS until I shoot him myself for 20 minutes
>>507354302I don't play ranked
>>507354302bronzegod here
>>507354385Pizza Time!
>>507354512Unless you want to try out new champs, quick play is nigger dog shit with people disconnecting from the games, jeff ulting his wanda during ultimate and other shit that doesn't happen in ranked
>>507354636You forgot to remove your name from the bottom left
>bots are now suicide sharkingwtf Netease????
>>507354636>fellow CapchadKeep at it, soldier. Gold's still within reach
>>507347578>but I've already had a game where the other support swapped off to be the 4th DPS, leading to a lost match.Sometimes the healer is getting btfo by black panther and would be better off playing literally anyone else instead of just being dead. The swap is not why you lost. Whatever lead up to the swap is the actual reason.
Literally THE MOMENT i get in higher league in ranked i get paired with the biggest drooling retards to lose my points.
Reposting some undocumented hero melee damage numbers, in case people are wonderingMagneto = 40 dmg.Venom, Peni, Strange = 30 dmgGroot = 30 dmg + 30 dmg + 50 dmgHawkeye, Hela = 35 dmgMoon knight = 35 dmg (over 2 hits) + 35 dmg (over 2 hits) + 60 dmgSquirrel girl = 25 dmgWidow (with rifle) = 45 dmgScarlet witch = 40 dmgIron man = 25 dmg Unlisted Ranged DPS (incl. Psylocke) = 30 dmgRocket, Mantis, Luna = 30 dmgWarlock = 25 dmgDagger/Cloak = 40 dmg
i keep getting knocked as hulk and bird sounds come out i don't know who's knocking me down
>>507349065Their current ongoing run has been pretty fun, and Thing is a good character
Is Marvel Rivals good?
>>507348371Luna always gets her ult first somehow.
>jeff mode still giving me the stupidest orangutang jeets possible as teammatesI WANT MY SHARK SKIN DAMNIT
>>507354764I saw a mantis bot literally just fucking jump off the map for no reason mid fight so that's not even surprising if that's true. >>507355026Why the fuck isn't it just universal with only characters who hit multiple times like Groot being different? Fucking schizo devs
peek-a-boo
What's your dream team composition... For the OPPOSING team?
>>507354280he should be able to use namor's ult as a team up
>>507349869... those things are fucking hitscan? I take back every complement I've even given to Psylock players, she's as retard proof as Mantis and Luna
ENTER the shittiest and most useless passive in the game
>>507355417Yeah once you learn how to play her she's actually just training wheels genji
>>507355026what about magik? Her melee is different than her m1 (and can be used to cancel the m1 so it's relevant)
>>507355059Have you tried... hulking... OUT!!
>>507350762Very nice anon
Imagine playing ranked and seeing this at the end of your lost match.
>>507355295built for human men
>>507355648what rank
Why are people so bad in quick play?
>>507355648abby is my gf so back the fuck off?!
>>507350408>>507349809>playercountit's just SEAtards doing this
>>507355648yeah if i go like 30-2 that's usually the next game >>507355721those are bots
>>507355648>57% accuracy>3k damage?
>>507355721You are likely playing against actual children
>>507351480Make him scout from tf2 including a shotgun
>>507355203it's the closest thing they have to an elevator. the bots are chinese after all
>>507355721>qp>2-2-2 enemy teamyou played bots, sweetie.
>>507355648>Hela goes 0/7/0That's honestly impressive.
>>507355026Don't know what they were thinking with those special melee like Moon Knight or Groot, in every case m1 or m2 is the better option unless you're reloading 1 hit away from a kill (in this case a normal melee does the trick).
I can't... guys... these Marvel girls are too hot... skintight bodysuits... barely covered, perfectly round asses... tummies, tummies everywhere...
>>507354905You're actually right, it was the mediocre Star-lord who was the anchor.
>>507351383Where did you get this video of me?
>>507348763but what about,2-1-3
I fucking love make little corridors of web for Peni mines, it's so fun, and if reaching the enemy base and putting the corridor to their front door, even funnier
>>507355896you think that they are seeding quick matches with bots?
>>507351790>The enemy gets on point first>Chances of victory decrease to nearly zeroHow about the clock stops while the objective is being contested? This mode is turbo gay as it currently stands.
I either get MVP or end up with a neutral KDA when I play Penis Parker, no in-between. It's the true RNG hero, entirely dependent on whether the team setup is in such a way that the enemy can't/won't care about the mines or not.
>>507352447Name five fun tanks in any video game.
>>507356013It's just fortnite bro
>>507353383I think slight damage boost and or a cooldown reduction would put him in a comfortable role as a sort of Vanguard Duelist hybrid
>>507356228check the profiles of enemy team (and your healers too)you wont be able to, because they are bots
>>507356378You zoomers have some fine ass bitches, I'll give you that.
>>507356228im not really sure how it works, but if you lose 2 matches in a row. you are pretty much guaranteed to get a bot enemy team next match. just check their profiles in the history after game, you wont be able to see it because they dont exist.
>>507353873>stand right in front of the perma-nigger cloak and dagger for heals>ping 3 seconds later>still waiting 10 seconds>zero response>eventually die to enemy as i stand there in front of the retard>report after matchI normally go for healthpacks but jesus I really wanted to make a point
>>507356228>>507356487also some people claim they dont get bot matches after lvl 30 but i cant confirm it myself so idk.
>>507346145website?
It's amazing how much of an annoyance a good Spider-Man can be while still scoring barely any kills.
>>507356638https://rivalstracker.com
>Captain America ever being buffedYou lucky he even in game, filthy stinky gweilo
>>507354302>Gold III'm unironically gonna aim for plat/low diamond cause I think it'll look good on my profilebut it sucks diamond has pick and bans, would really help the enjoyment with rank games with the constant mirror hela/psylocke/hawkeye matchup games.and I can have fun playing my own mains rather than just magneto/mantis
>all the heroes I enjoy the most require me to have good aim>years of CRPGs have atrophied my aim to resemble a console playerDamn.
>>507356712KDA isn't everything, sometimes just being an annoying cunt making the enemy busy is good enough to win depending on your team's competency
My wife's soul is stunning
>>507354385PIZZA TIME
>curbstomping enemy team>wonder if they're bots>check names in middle of match>BBCBIGCHUNGUSoh okay
>>507354083>Voice chat: DisabledYou can play her Today.
>>507354636Nice uid bwo
Is it just me or is Black Widow dogshit and useless?
>>507356361SevarogThornGarnetLancerELC AMX
>>507354512>>507354636>>507356794how come you guys are at low ranks? the game gives you so many points you cant not climb even if you lose more games than you win
REDPILL ME ON MAGIX HOW DO I PLAY HERI heard you need to animation cancel? What ability and why?
>>507356613Oh you definitely still get bot matches after level 30Bots are littered in qp, it's retarded
>>507357172She's fine
>>507357382All of themShe has 3 fucking moves, figure it out dumbass
>>507357382press e
>>507357172She's ok at best.She requires high level positioning to pull off right or you get dove by a single dive character and die instantly
>>507354664>Hey did you guys know Doctor Doom is a total nerd who watches Star Trek?
>>507357306I got to silver 2 and then wanted to try dps for once so I'm playing quickplay nonstop since I don't want to burden a ranked team with my 15% accuracy
>>507357172easily the worst hero in the game
>>507357878the better the ass, the worse the hero
>>507357791it was alwasy obvious doom was a nerd, only sniveling nerds get obsessed over who is the "smartest" person.
>>507357306My work matters more than video games, so i'm always on and off and every role I play, I get cucked by the most literal sub-human team mates, maybe I should've played ranked during the first week where everyone thought Iron Fist was busted only for ppl to realized how fucked Luna/Mantis can make him irrelevant.And also now learned to never play on weekends , god how do you que up ranked whilst having shit ping and insta-locking dps and doing terrible, holy fuck
>black panther trying to jump behind us and take out our healers only to keep dying over and overBLUD thinks hes spiderman or iron fist!!
>>507357306i have ranked anxiety...
>>507357172watch dafran play black widow
>>507356929True, but nobody will ever thank you for it. In fact, most people will believe that you were a burden.
>HURRICANE INCOMING!
>>507355721Because there's a gorillion people playing at any given time and sometimes you just get matched against children
>>507348539Nigga you gay
>>507358280Literally fucking WHO
>>507358353
>>507357172You need god tier aim and a supernatural sense of positioning, then she's still a worse Hela/Hawkeye.
>>507355593>what about magik? Her melee is different than her m1 (and can be used to cancel the m1 so it's relevant)35 dmg.>>507355962No clue for the combos with MK and Groot. Probably mostly flavor.
I hit plat today while having 40% winrate, i can't tell whether i actually deserve it
Left to right is Quickplay, Ranked, Tournament.Top half is Pick Rate, bottom half is win rate.Main surprises are that Black Widow is actually less popular than Storm in ranked however Storm is the least popular character in the game in quickplay and tournaments.Again, despite very low pick rates, hulk has an excellent winrate in coordinated play showing that with mics and coordination his abilities and usefulness skyrocket despite his low pick rate.Surprisingly Storms story is much the same, her winrate and pickrate in quickplay and ranked are abyssmal but in tournaments she is a rare but strong pick, would anons say this is due to teamups or a secret tech that hasn't trickled down to ranked yet?The top 4 quickplay characters are strategists.Based on these statistics the overall three least played characters in the game are>Storm>Black Widow>WolverineIn that order, although it seems that Iron Fist falls off a cliff as soon as you get into a tournament setting, implying that he is only a good pick when against unorganised randoms and quickly hits a ceiling the second mics are involved.Moon Knight appears to be a comfort pick in ranked and competitive.Groot is the most balanced character in the game, being middle of the pack in pick rate and in the top half in win rate.It is extremely concerning that there are 3 characters in the top 5 in 4 of the 6 categoriesFurther proof that tournaments are a whole different game is that all of the top winrate characters are considered niche or bad by the majority of players.Also Magik, despite getting a lot of complaints that she is bad, is only beaten by Mantis in ranked winrate.An interesting thing is that Magneto is very unpopular and actually middle of the pack for winrate in quickplay but shoots up the list as soon as we look at ranked.
>>507358353I want a Halle Berry skin so much bros, that was my favorite look for her
>>507358353>>507358538>I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING!https://youtu.be/pvy9km7g6fw?si=ULOVopyYTI9VLedu
bronze all the way up to gold has bots
>>507343704 discord gg C79puxVq
>>507358697>40% winratewtf is it actually that easy to rank up? And how is plat higher than 94% of players
>>507358717It should also be noted that Squirrel Girl, despite being the face of Marvel Rivals Blender animations is actually very bad and also not popular at all.This implies that the obsession with her that the community has is pure pornbrained bandwagoning.
She'd be fine if her fire rate was higher when not ADS, so she could actually kill something. And why does she need to bolt the rifle again after the kick? Plus, what's the point of her ultimate zooming in and having a channel time? It's not just you—she's dogshit.
>>507352447Tanks wont be fun until something is done about Hela and Hawkeye. They are extremely oppressive to the point that not picking Dr. Strange is asking to get two shot from 50m without any counterplay.
>>507359117Essentially I've been getting 30 points per win and losing 20 per lose, more or less, then you have the shield that doesn't take your points away every few matches, so you're bound to rank up. >how is play higher than 94% of playersIt takes into account everyone, even people who don't play ranked (because everyone is officially put into bronze regardless whether you play ranked or not). I wish it wasn't like that, I want to know what the actual ranked percentage is
>>507359273she's very popular in /fgg/
>>507359273>thinks porn popularity or who you find hot/cute ever has anything to do with how popular to play or good a character is
HEY TEAMENJOY THE AMPLIFIER
>>507359117most people don't play ranked v
Which character is the most fun to play?
>>507359534There's also the fact that the game's still barely a few weeks old. Those numbers won't truly reflect reality for a few more months, I'd say
>>507354385"PIZZA TIME"
>>507359117nta but I get more points for winning than losing. So if I keep playing I will rank up even if my win rate is negative. They are either grading my performance or blatantly boosting ranks.
gooning to Venom
>>507348627Lamest character.
>>507359840cooming to Luna
>>507359598he says hey didi
>die to Jeff ults you weren't even close to: the game mode
>>507359663Spider-Man, not even kidding. Sadly you need god-like coordination skills to make him shine, since every button you press moves him into a random direction at lightning speed.
>>507359663I enjoy Wolverine the most but I only pick him in very specific situations>gamemode is payload>enemy team has 2 tank>we have 1 tank and 2 supps
https://files.catbox.moe/zrkaje.jpg
>>507359902Sorry didn't mean to reply.
>>507359273My porn brain and my gameplay brain are the same brain anon.
>>507360061>Coal&BurnerNo thanks.
>>507360061Cloak fucks that?
>>507360061god i wish i was her so much...
>lose 20 to 70-80% in Jeff Wars
>>507358030hey, Doom only snivels sometimes
WHO THE FUCK IS BUCKY
>>507360236winter soldier
>>507360236I forgot AGAIN
>>507357672Tell me something she can do that Moon Knight can't
>>507359663Obviously it's Tony
>when you ever so slightly miss that one important hit during the climax of an intense match that you know would turn into a massive clutch and win you the game, edging your name into the annals of history as a peerless hero for all time, but instead you're now a useless buffoon and your team hates you
>>507359712I wonder if the current silver will be gold in one year's time because now good people are at lower ranks, or if the game is actually going to get tougher because people will get better
>>507352412>>507353271Same
>>507360236James Buchanan "Bucky" Barnes
>>507360201Marvel Soilennials are letting their children play the funny shark game. I guarantee it.
>>507360236One of the OG kid sidekicks from Caps original comics waaaaay back in the 40s. He's since become his own character but that translates to "make him edgy and dark" to Marvel
I wouldn't mind Luna's ult so much if it didn't last forever. Mantis is annoying too, but at least hers is over relatively quickly.
>>507360547her ult is pretty long too. its 8 secs. i think both should 6 secs max.
>>507360120>>507360137there's no nig in the pic and the first thing that came to mind when you saw the white female pawg was the nig. the brainwashing those trannies did on you was a success.
>>507360364>Enemy Hela is one tap>I miss my Squirrel nut>She clicks on me>HEL UNLEASHED
>>507360236>>507360278I feel like Winter Soldier is mostly know by his actual name then his superhero name.
>>507348627That thing, Kamala Khan, Riri Williams and Miles Morales are the four horsemen of the shittydeicalypse and embody everything wrong with Marvel nowadays. If netease wants to destroy any goodwill built, they will add them as playable, skin, emotes, etc.
>>507360690You can't have Dagger without Cloak, seethe
Peni is too much fun.
>>507360364Nothing enrages me more than having 2-3 enemies in front of me with like 5% HP each and none of them end up dying.
I just got ALL the achievements on Steam. 175 hours later.What are the chances they'll add more achievements with every new hero?
>>507360796I think it's mostly because while Winter Soldier is his title he doesn't get called it in the movies aside from the main one and Bucky is better short form for callouts and such. Not to mention he's also been Cpt America and White Wolf or whatever the other one was.
>>507356934i will impregnate it
>>507360061cloak is so lucky. glad he's a bro
>>507360916people repeatedly walking into the mines is hilarious
>even asmon is playing hela and doing welldont ever tell me hela is a skill hero that requires aim ever again
>>507361002Post proof.
>p1 on enemy team and gm3 on my team in my diamond gamesthat can happen??
i want to be an alien symbiote and use underage girls as my host so bad
>>507361054Asmon is a huge retarded shitter but he always had good aim. It's literally his only quality from a gameplay perspective.
Picking Jeff should be autoban. The shittiest champ in the game.
>try magik after spamming wolverine>she's S tier
>this one anon (probably a green nigger) is going to piss and moan for eternity over C&D, baiting blacked trannies/racists (because they are cut from the same cloth) into posting blacked /polgbtq/ shit.grim
>>507359051what is this?
>>507360902I can, if you can't you really should take a break from this site or filter everything related to it, there's still time to undo what they've done to your mind, believe me fren.
>>507361041Not only that, but just the fact that you existing causes mayhem and can slow down pushes and how you can contribute without even being involved or having amazing aim.It's great.
well who the fuck do i play as support then if luna and mantis are banned in high elo
>>507361217Is it weird I also want to master melee heroes in a hero shooter, too?
>>507361054>doing well>running down mid>doesn't use escapes and dies the moment someone looks at himHe can aim a little but has absolutely no game sense and you can tell he 's like that in every game
>>507361330adam
>>507361330WarlockLokiRocketC&D
>>507361330loki is an 11/10 support if you aren't playing dive/getting fucked over by groot/don't have any flying on your team
>>507361330You can play anyone else without losing to the opposing healer pressing Q.
>>507361392nah shooters are a dime a dozen I love melee in all games
how does one win a Groot mirror?>>507361330Stats say Adam but fun says Rocket or Loki
>>507361074Sorry I'm cyka blyat, IDK how to change language on Steam.
THIS WEIGHS MORE THAN ME
Madelyne Pryor Aka. Goblin Queen next season, print this post.
>tank walks past you >entire screen gets blocked they need to add a fucking see-through when allies are too close
does magik slash charge up damage if you hold it longer
>>507361606Rocket is the most boring, most braindead support you could ever play>Throw down respawn beacon>Hold m2 the entire game>Dash away when dove>Pop ult the moment a team fight happens>Rinse and repeat
>playing Rocket>both tanks keep asking me "where are the heals?">I'm actually firing healing balls non stop
>>507361330I main Adam warlock and don't have
>>507343704last thread
>>507345269>>507346270>>507348036>>507348481sexo!!!!
>>507361759Yes it does, and you can use the practice range instead of asking these questions you retard.
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGENDARRRYYY
>>507361862Don't listen to them, look at the stats in the end. If you did just as good as the other healers - you did good.
>>507348036gonna ruin the game if they add anti heal
>>507361862>>507362068Rocket has zero burst heals so he feels awful to play with
>>507345852allowing people to have goofy team comps is part of the fun, and if teams want to win, then yeah they'll switch up or they won't and they will lose. you cant control human nature, and thats kind of part of the core experience. who is willing to swap for the betterment of others in a group of randoms? building a team comp with randos is genuinely part of the game
>>507361862Rocket's heals are awkward.>Fire balls at team>Balls just fly past them and become uselessThey should explode on impact or something. Perhaps only one bounce before they explode and heal people.
>>507362036venom ass
>>507362068I did have good healing amount, it's just that I feel Rocket is the only healer that is just there to top up people instead of keeping them alive during a fight and that's a huge disadvantage compared to others.
>>507362249>need to heal teammates>I myself am also damaged>ball doesn't arrive on time because I have lost 10 health so it slows to a crawl and doesn't reach the tank in time>lose
>>507362207It's actually not fun having 5 DPS only players on 1 team against a real comp.
>>507362046I just left it and didnt want to enter again
>>507362285Rocket actually heals for 60hps in an aoe which isn't too terrible, he's just not a bursty healer which people are used to.
>>507362391That's super annoying. The only way to fire balls to save your teammates if you're at half health is to walk backwards out of their AOE range.
>>507361862>>507362249>fire ball at dying teammate>im low on health so the ball slows down to heal me instantly>it never gets to them>they die>I die
another Blushy Spicy epic win!he's really enjoying the hype of the game to draw more Rivals girls
I'm Peni main. What are some other characters I should play more? I want to master me a second main.
>>507362553blushy is a girl..
>peni most popular character in /mrg/ as per the polls>ctrl+f peni>13 results???
>>507362612Just learn Strange
>>507362553She looks like she fucks landsharks
>>507362553this bitch is so generic i forget she exists as soon as i turn the game off
>>507350762Upside down 69 is an extremely hot position and isnt drawn enough, doing gods work
>>507362407im sure the enemy team was having fun though. and if your 5 dps were good and hitting every shot, surely they would have outdamaged the other team right? again, character draft and willingness to swap for the sake of capping or winning a round is part of working as a team with people you dont know. if you are looking for an environment where more people are likely to care about the match over hopping on and getting a few kills as their fav hero, the competitive matchmaking is available to you
>>507362553Me at the back.>>507362612Strange is a must right now, he's the best jack-of-all-trades tank in the game with Magneto as a second.Groot might be more your style though due to coming from Peni
>>507362726I don't like him. And for me Penis is the best tank. I feel like when his shield is down it's almost like I don't do anything.
>>507362893>scott fucks thiswhy is he so jean obsessed again?
Feel better, fight better!
Post some psylocke cosplays for me to jack off to
>>507362285every healer has its niche rocket is consistent aoeloki is burst aoe mantis is h.o.t. adam is spread-burst not sure how to classify the remaining 3
>>507362870>im sure the enemy team was having fun though.No I personally don't find it fun to steamroll an enemy team because they decided to pick the 4 worst possible DPS + thor + rocket >and if your 5 dps were good and hitting every shot, surely they would have outdamaged the other team right?Not in this game where jeff who's considered the worst healer in the game does more hp/s without using any CDs than most DPS do damage with CDs.
>>507363043why not ask in your pisscord, an anon already linked it itt, better to goon in there than ruin the thread.
>>507362670>>peni most popular character in /mrg/?? who decided that? Peni fags don't even like her design on MR, they post 90% loli Peni. It's as if they were in eternal seethe for theyy having aged her and made her a generic tier B D.va
>OH NO I'M WOUNDED WHO WILL HELP
>>507363023Bad taste.
>estimated time: 5 minutesdead game.
>>507363230best combat line in the game contender for best overall
>>507362870if you think people dont go 4+ DPS in ranked you clearly have never played this game or you're just fucking lying
>>507363213>who decided that/mrg/ did, just under 12 days ago.
>person says Magnetos ult sucks >Ask if they've been letting it absorb before throwing it>"Absorb what"Every time
>>507363265what rank?
>>507363457That's diamond anon
>>507363457anon..
>>507363230I don't even know who says this.
>Captain America players
>>507363554mantis
>>507363554mantis after taking 5hp of damage
Literally how am I meant to win when 3 retards who can’t aim insta lock DPS every single game? And invariably one of them will rage quit after going 1 kill 11 deaths
>>507363383you know that you can easily vote more than once in these polls on this site using opera vpn and cell phones that have different ip, right?
>>507363604I mentally tune her out. I hate her.
Should I get reported if I want to play a "bad" character like Venom?Let's assume all roles have been reasonably filled (obviously not going venom if we already have a tank and there's not healers.)
>>507363595Cap's ult needs some tweaks but I understand that it's meant to give him some more staying power on point.It also speeds up your allies, so you just basically do circles on point.
>Be plat 1 playing whatever I want>Get stonewalled from Diamond by Hela mains on the opposite teamIts not fair. I want to ban people too.
>>507363694mantis can top frag, and strange can also win matches, why not play them?
nigga what the FUCK happened why is EVERYONE playing fucking iron man
>>507363421Absorb what? Unironically>>507363554They should fix voicelines, it's always too loud no matter who said that
>>507363753You should play Venom and force other people to adjust to your pick.
>>507363753>going Venom when your team has no tank that won't be diving the enemyTHAT is throwing.
>>507363874his ult succs all projectiles and gives it more damage
>>507363857tony fever
>45 takedowns>16 deathsdid I play good or bad
>>507363857good survivability and solid ability to pick healers if there isn't a good hawkeye/hela on the enemy team
>>507359273>This implies that the obsession with her that the community has is pure pornbrained bandwagoning.I would be maining the fuck out of squirrel girl and would rather be playing her if her ult wasnt trash and she had a slightly faster projectile speed.
>>507363857Gamma beam = Win.
>>507363857streamers found out iron man is good especially with hulk because his counters are always banned and people are now copying it since nobody looks up ever
>>507363421>absorb Your ult gets destroyed if it receieves too much damage, if it was the case I could eat Punisher's ult
>>507363753>Be good at bad character>Great Job Venom, ive never seen a good one before>Be bad at bad character>lol VenomIts not any worse than being shit at a good character except people start sucking your dick when you actually win.
>>507363973But what if no one's shooting
Why aren't you playing Adam Warlock right now anons?
>>507364171then its shit!
SW needs more lewd/porn content!
Because Mantis is cuter!
I want to like Moon Knight, but it feels like you have no options if someone pushes you.
10 minutes in MS Paint
>>507363857requires the enemy team to know how to lead their shots properly, solid class for fighting tards
>>507364284>grapple away>stealth if you have cloak>double jump from the hg youre on to lg while gliding for heals
>>507364284thats why you have batons
>>507364213Because he collapses in an unorganized game and people are chronically averse to bunch up in solo q
>>507364284that's his weakness
1 loss away from Bronze 2. Solo queue is so shit.
>>507363936a fair point.I use strange instead when we need a tank that plays defense.Venom is my goto as he is simple and I like being a distraction.
>>507364284He has a lot of mobility options to get away
>>507363857>Luna tries to put on a show>MAXIMUM PULSEI have been saying this since launch but people get shot down one too many times and pussy out of playing Iron Man.
>>507364373batons do fuck all t. 5 hours on moon knight
>>507364121There's a handy little meter you can look at right on the reticle to know when to toss it before it gets overloaded
>>507363848What fucking difference is that going to make when they can’t secure kills and one of them rage quits? The game needs role queue
>>507343704>Get killed by Hela>Replay shows her blatantly miss the headshot by like a foot and my character still moving before dropping deadwot
Is Iron Man actually voiced by Downey Jr. or did the VA try really hard to imitate him?
>>507364284He is actually good 1v1 but some heroes (blackP) can aoe down your ankh making you useless
>>507364332>class
>>507364453>Less than 40% winrate>In fucking bronzeSolo queue isn't the main problem here.
>>507364284Play him like he's just a sniper, stay away, be sneaky
>>507363753I hate venom, not as an offtank I think hes actually just fine in that regard so long as you have a primary tank, but I hate him because he encourages one of the dps to go spiderman and you wind up fighting 5v6 the whole game. 3 tank scenarios are also common with him when someone wants to switch to peni for the venom buff, I hate that a little less though.
>>507364284he sucks, dont play him. he is basically the next step after scarlet witch.
>>507364628They don't sound similar at all lol, but the voice actor nails the Iron Man character
>>507364416Why does everyone act like Adam Warlock is REALLY DIFFICULT to play effectively? Just spam right clicks around corner peeks and press E when someone is wounded. Press shift when getting dived or when an offensive ult is used. Press ult behind cover when someone dies and return to battle. If you die just respawn. This hero is gay baby mode incarnate. You dont even have to aim your heals.
>>507364610EOMM
>>507344908swapping between him n loki
>>507364734I guess the point is at what point is it reasonable to report someone for "throwing".I want to know what's the threshold so im not opening up myself to punishment inadvertently.
>>507364453Just play your main, fuck the other guys, If they make you play someone you can't play
>Team is winning >but somehow they are still complaining
>>507344908sounds like a shit version of mantis
>Leave throwing to me
>>507364568if your team can't hold up against the enemy team, thats just called getting outplayed. and yes, choosing a poor matchup and sticking with that poor matchup against the enemy teams character choices is also part of being outplayed
>>507345201
>93 out of 100 to next rank>next match has a guy go 0-10>match after that has a leaver>match after that has 2 people barely doing anything and we almost lose but by some miracle our hawkeye is going 34-2, iron man gets a triple pulse, and I get 2 agomotto pentakills near the end, it literally took that much to overcome the intended loss>end the day 96/100are there still people retarded enough not to realize that this type of matchmaking is intentional
>>507365035>Winning the game>Uh can you swap to y, x isn't workingI want to strangle these people
>>507365078only cap is a throw pick
for once my crotch picked a good character
>>507364862That's correct but shitters expect you to literally babysit them running down mid and get upset in chat when you don't
>>507365082So I just have to hope I’m not playing with retards instead of the game having non retarded devs who will add a role queue. Kill yourself faggot
>>507344908Why would you need to fall slowly?
>>507364468>a lot of mobility options>a double jump on a cooldown and a grapple
>>507365035>>507365209>barely winning with 1 healer>"hey this wouldn't even be close if we had 2 healers">one of them switches and the enemy team can't leave their spawn room
>>507364171Then you stopped the enemy team from shooting for 5 seconds and should easily win the fight from there
>>507364915No one is going to report you for throwing as long as you don't actually throw, like intentionally playing like shit or being a huge asshole to people in your team.
Is hulk good?
>>507344908my friend is a massive robot autist so I'll permanently have a healer in my team after this guy comes out
>>507364915picking any tank or healer is not a throw. having only one tank or healer and not picking the most optimal of those selections (strange/mantis) is a throw but its collaboratively a throw between you and your team for being unable to draft properly. although sometimes interesting choices and offpicks can win just fine
>>507365232I have an 80% wr with him and 33% with Hulk though.
>>507365192The matchmaking is intentional, it's optimized for engagement aka making you frustrated enough to play more. To actually escape elo hell you have to be much better than your rank
>>507365487No.He exists to feed ult charge and to make those "take damage" challenges go real fast with his 1k total health between him and Banner.
>>507364676Bronze and silver are unironically the most difficult ranks
>>507365330What makes you think people won't ragequit or be retarded if they add role queue?
>>507363857bc people are forced to play 2 tanks and tanks suck at dealing with him
>>507365487people are starting to realize that the answer is yes
>>507347579>Make a baby peni skin>will need to make a dozen more>will never actually use them in game Must suck being the guy that makes the skins
>>507363973yeah but everyone just stops shooting
Does Magik need a buff?
>>507365770No
>>507365770Yes
>>507348331Psylocke, Black Widow, Magik
>>507365770maybe
>>507365649holy fucking braindead
>>507365330Role queue is retarded and killed Overwatch
>>507365649just go hela and go 50-6 every gamei tried filling when i first started ranked but after seeing the 3-4 instalock dps' skill in these ranks i instalock hela and never switch and i've only lost 1 game since
>>507365330>I just have to hope I’m not playing with retardswelcome to mulitplayer vidya, devs can't give your team better aim or better positioning, neither can nor should devs bother to give people who were going to lose anyway a means to make the game have less variety
Black Widow is kinda uhhhhhhhhhhhhabysmal dogshit
>>507365770Her Ult needs a redo. It's just terrible.
>>507365657I don’t care as long as it’s not possible for 5 people to pick DPS. Fuck off retard
>>507365770Absolutely not she already can play into what should be terrible matchups. The only thing really stopping her is she sucks for solo queue and Hela and Mantis exist.
>>507365192>me 1 week ago going from bronze 3 to silver 2 and back to bronze again in a day and crying itt because it was rigged
>>507365487He's the best Vanguard in the game with Dr. Strange. Ironman becomes completely nuts with him.
>>507361607Alright, proof accepted. Well done mate.
insane cope about the game never getting role queue
>>507365770whatever happens she is getting nerfed because shes is losing her seasonal buff in season 1 hahaha
>>507364628It's Josh Keaton, the Spectacular Spider-Man
>>507348539Fucking femcel haircut lol
>>507365939hela and hawkeye are the classes that reward aim, play them instead
>get stuck solo healing on adam>still winbros..
>>507363049Strictly speaking of their differences as healers, not counting ults.Rocket has a wide footprint because he can bounce his balls around corners, on ceilings and such so he can heal your team when no other healer could.Mantis is the best at healing multiple scattered targets at once, because her heals are fire and forget, auto targeted, instant and not cooldown based in the normal way.Luna is more about sustain with no cooldown or strong burst especially when grouped up. Loki has strong no cooldown aoe heal and a very strong panic heal button. But is more conditional since his healing can be severely reduced depending on the angle he's trying to heal based on where his illusions are. Healing potential is also lost if clones are destroyed. But also the least mobile because he needs to plant down his illusions and stay with them to heal well.Jeff is a short distance but highly mobile healer. Not good at healing a spread out team or far away from him, so works best with a team that stays closer together.C&D is sort of similar to Jeff in that she works best at healing more grouped up teams where multiple people can be hit by veil or benefit from dagger storm. Mediocre ranged healing.Warlock is good at keeping teams alive during heavy fire from enemies with his strong nuke heal and sould bond. Can also sometimes hit allies at odd angles or hidden behind stuff with his bounces.
DON'T MESS WITH THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN
Hawkeye is such a faggot character
I like playing hela not because she's strong, but because she's hitscan, every other shooter is dogshit to play in comparison
>>507365903Please kill yourself
>MAXIMUUUUUUUM PULSE>my shield is off CD
>>507365192This. But to overcome the forced loss is practically impossible. I get healers and dps who can't even break 4k damge/heals while I'm sitting at 20k
>>507363265>night leading into christmas eve for eu>"why are fewer people playing"
>>507349065To me they're OK but feel too dated, and not in a classic way like Superman. Just kinda boring
>>507366172>solo warlockmasochism is a disease, find help
I know nothing about your game other than the fish. Tell me about the character who can use ult and kill their entire team. That seems pretty funny
>>507363857Turns out having a beam that does 180 damage/sec (220 if green) with 50% uptime is very good.
>>507348331 Galacta
>>507365861Prove me wrong
>>507365523>See Captain America main>Pick Thor so you can do damageDo us proud Cap
>>507351383Just give him the TF2 Pyro's airblast so I can actually play the game if there's an angry Spodermun or Iron Fist after me. Also netease please add a skin where the mvp animation is just the 2nd op of the iron man animated series, thanks.
>be me>melee hero>get slept for 5 seconds any time i go to the backlinenot cool
>>507366306t. 0-84 Spiderman Timmy
>>507366336>THE MOON HAUNTS YOU
>>507364676Only reason I got silver 3 was teaming up with randoms and going on a streak
>>507366638t.ie a noose around your neck faggot
>>507364453I had the same thing happen. Every time I'd climb to the point of being 1 win away from silver, then suddenly losing streak. I'm far from a great player, but I know how to pull my weight ingame. It's just the luck of the draw wether you get a team that knows what they're doing or not. The higher you get, the more likely it is but it will never stop happening from what I read.
>>507366648kek
>>507361330You should be playing Loki regardless.
>>507366459i did not lose a single match from bronze to gold, how hard is it to pick hela and win?
>>507366715lol!Keep trying champ, you'll get it eventually
>>507366594sleeeeep
>>507351480Make him the fastest character in the game that can cross the map in 3 seconds but it's all in real time
>>507365667>bc people are forced to play 2 tanksStop doing this. 2-2-2 brainrot is real. Ive had matches where duelist mains feel like they have to pick tank and complain they can't tank. But nobody even asked them to play tank in the first place, we already have one.
>>507367098overtime would never end
>>507365192Yea you have no idea how many times I was 1 match from diamond only to be given impossibly bad people until I fell to plat 3
>>507366990Dilate tranny
Is there a soundtrack rip anywhere? I'm interested in Klyntar map BGM. Have a Peni in return.
>>507367043We love Mantis here.
Buff Mantis
>>507367287i just want a cute skin..
>>507366594just ban mantis you dummy
>>507363213Her design is neat though not all of us like the character for being a loli.I like Spidey stuff and her kit is by far the most fun to use, which is nice since I'll never get to play dps.
>>507352069The only thing stopping Speedsters is bad writing.
>>507365942I have resigned myself to only activating Darkchild when Luna or Mantis are ulting so I dont explode.
>>507367242I wish we had this Peni
>>507353129It's only confusing because some fag at marvel was like "erm she took over a Japanese woman's body, that's problematic. Time to destroy her character"
Where's Drax and Gamora?
>>507367242>AI peniworthless...
>>507367357Real boomers remember the best parts of early Smallville were the super speed scenes.
>>507367170Yes.Also he does 5 damage per punch
Is it worth doing a kamikaze attacks just to destroy a penis mine factory? How fast does she get it back?
>>507365942It just needs to fully charge her passive shield on activation
>>507367438Wasn't it even worse originally? She had her appearance altered with mad science?
>>507356934That makes me hard I need to screenshot more souls.
>>507343704does anybody else love how hot the asses are in this game?based chinks
>>507364453Literally how? It took me a dozen games to get to silver
>don't play comp>profile still shows as being the lowest rankWhy do they do this instead of showing no rank at all? I don't even want to touch comp until they do some sort of balancing.
>>507352069All you have to do is NOT do the stupid time stop scene.That's all you have to do, NOT make them faster than time.Then its easy to write for speedsters.You have a lot of leeway in how fast they actually are as long as you avoid things like that that define their speed as stupid.
>>50736765615 seconds if she doesn't pop it early.
>>507365770Only buff she needs is to make the hit box for her dash more forgiving or just give her 2
Peni
How good is Strange?I feel like he can get rushed down easily with zero escape and is only good when a team is around him
>>507367656>Is it worth doing a kamikaze attacks just to destroy a penis mine factoryNo. The floor is a lava, stay away from her and her toys! She's very territorial
>>507367776is to make silver players feel good when it says they are above 90% of playerbase kek
>>507367886doro
>>507367547>best parts of early Smallville were the super speed scenesi wouldn't put that as my number one, but they were fun.
>>507367897Best Tank in the game. Can also team wipe with his ult and fully charged blast.
>>507365770>second highest winrate in comp / highest winrate duelistWhy is she only considered 'B' tier? Is it relative to their pick rate or something?
Lokigods I petition you to share your wisdom!
>>507367897He's very good but he's the most mind numbingly boring tank, pretty much Reindhart in terms of enjoyment. Wolverine is unironically one of your biggest threats on Payload.
>>507347315>physically impossible for him to have sex with her>he gave up their ability to have two bodies just to save her>now he has to be inside her body and feel her pleasure while she has sex with spider-man and venom and every other self insertblack bros we did it! we got our white woman!
>>507367449>Tank Drax>DPS Gamora>the Guardians of the Galaxy team is 2-2-2>while the Avengers are 3 Tanks and 3 DPS
>>507367897Why the fuck would you want to escape? You want to be close so you can hit them with the ol' Eye of Agamoto
>>507368009spider mine
>>507367897one of the only tanks in the game
>make DPS the only class that’s actually fun to playBravo Nolan
>>507367897You can always shift and put your shield down and become practically invulnerable for a couple seconds. If you still die after that you were in the middle of fucking nowhere and deserve to go back to spawn.
>>507368029Chloe sexo.
>>507367728Mad science made her take over her body I think.Either way all they needed to do was just rewrite her so she's an Asian woman that grew up in England. Instead they just dropped the ball completely and split Betsy from the Psylocke persona like retards. Thankfully nobody cares about Marvel comics anymore. I'll give DC some credit, at least some of their modern comics aren't complete ass. Everything Marvel does just butchers their characters
>>507367897He's a tank, play him like one.
>Ranked>Play Mantis>Our team has alright balance but we're losing>17k heals after first round defense(cart push)>Psylocke types in chat>"more heal please">They're Ace and make sure to let everyone know>They're never on objective>Even then his lead is not that big>Tank switches to healer>I switch to tank>Still focus objective>Proceed to steal his Ace next round>We lose but I wonPsylocke corrected.
>>507368179Guardians Movies have always been better than Avengers. Its only natural that their team synergy would also be better.
What is the most embarrassing thing for your main?For me, Peni, it's when I miss the screaming witch with my web and she ults successfully
>>507367897he's the best tank in the gamenot the most exciting onebut the most efficient one
>>507368103If you're asking unironically, win rate is never useful in a vacuum and needs to be compared alongside pick rate. The less people play a character, the more heavily it will be skewed in one direction or another simply because the sample size is smaller.
>>507364328NOW HULK GOOOOON
Andddd I've been demoted to bronze 2 after an 8 loss streak. That's me done for the day lads. There's always tomorrow.
>>507368515Why? Is it literally just the shield?
>>507368456GotG are top tier but Infinity War and Endgame are the best movies in the Marvel cinematic slopverse, fight me.
>>507368493When I edge my ultimate for too long as Magneto and the cum ball explodes in my hands.
>>507368634that and the ulthis ult is the strongest tank ult
>>507368634His ult + Portal which is basically a second ult
>>507365667most teams don't have two tanks
>>507368634He does good dmg in team fights while having a shield that regens fast
>>507368358Source?
>>507368290magneto and loki are pretty fun
>>507367328how about they nerf the duration by 1.5s no reason at all to leave it so fucking long.same thing with jeff ult it should be increased speed but decreased duration
>>507368131Nah, Reinhardt has a funny pin and ult. Strange has nothing fun besides trolling with the portal sometimes
>>507368456Guardians 3 fucking sucked and I'll die on this hill>Quill is just some drunk guy in it, where the fuck are the mask and the rocket boots?>Every joke is ran down into the ground and they aren't good jokes to begin with>weird obsession with gore and violence>Adam Warlock was less in it than Gunn's literal who friendBut all of those are par for the course for MCU slop
>>507368634>Best tank ult>Portal shenanigans>Very good damage for a tank between his E and alternating M1/meleeBut yeah it's mostly because of the giant pizza shield
>>507350306indian or chinese bots farm it for trading cards and then sell the trading cards on steam marketplace. i think
Why do people so stubbornly refuse to switch characters in a genre where counter swapping is an intended mechanic the devs want you to use?
>>507368493For me it's also with Peni when I place my spider nest and the stage transforms destroying it instantly. Happens on Hydra sometimes. Random walls just floating in and deleting my nest.
>>507368954>where the fuck are the mask and the rocket boots?This, why the fuck didn't he have them? Would have helped a ton when he got stuck in the fucking vacuum of outer space again.
>>507369121most people are dumb
>>507369121one tricks are mentally ill
>>507367897the le best tank but Unfournately the most boring to play
>>507367656no, she can turn it off if she spots you and you'll probably get killed
>>507368634It's a gigantic shield that lasts forever, has as much health as a tank, blocks all projectiles and allows teammates to shoot through it
>>507369121I play Mantis who is supposedly a must-pick so why would I swap
Who should I be targeting as Strange? I never know who the fuck to shoot and I don’t want to steal kills from DPS trying to to build ult
>>507369403>I don’t want to steal kills from DPS trying to to build ultmost beta thing i read, are you sure you should be locking in support?
>>507367897>when you tell your team you can portal behind the enemies but the game mechanics dont allow for staircase zoning
>>507369291Well obviously it does not apply to everyone, everytime and everywhere you goof.
>>507369121Most people just want to play one character. Not even one per role, just the one character. Even catch some of my friends doing this.
>>507369403>I don’t want to steal kills from DPS trying to to build ultFuck'em, think about your busted Ult instead. Shoot whoever got the lowest hp and is close to you.
>>507369501No I’m just trying to not fuck up the game for my team
>cap doing his autistic run up to me>freeze him>this happens like 3 more times>dance on his body
Bump limit reached!>>507343632>>507343632>>507343632Move when ready!
>>507369403anon kills are more important than your dps' ult charge. You're thinking about stuff that I guarantee won't matter at the level you play at. Play the objective, group up and shoot the biggest threat.
I'm genuinely shocked that the DPS on Raccoon's gun is nearly the same as Punisher's rifle and about 50% higher than Mantis and Luna, makes me want to start using him morehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/142kmKd5SWhjHQXhh7B5CxbdKZgVwaWgN/edit?gid=1095498324#gid=1095498324
>>507369662Her ass does not look good.
someone make a real thread
>>507369686why do you faggots keep using off topic images for the OP every few threads?
>>507369691The damage dropoff means you'll only do good damage when you're up in someone's face (you don't want that).
>>507369662I love Serinide bros
>>507369403dude if you can kill someone that's better than giving DPS ults, which are there to get kills
>>507369829Ur gay
Do not use the aisloppa thread for no other reason than the number is wrong>>507370031>>507370031>>507370031Move when ready.
>>507368029What are they doing to my nigga Clark!?
>>507370079autism kys
>>507369662fat whore
>>507370158rape
>>507369589>friend insists on only playing psylock>goes 0-10 every game and never tries to flank or anything
I managed to climb all the way to Plat with Rocket as a Solo Fag. It's crazy that I can keep up with other healers despite Rocket's seasonal buff being a measly 5% to his healing. Imagine if he got a 20% buff like the others.The Groot Combo would be worth using if it protected both Rocket and Groot from headshots. As it is, it's better off used as a third Rocket Dash to move around the map.
>goddess boost lighting Now if only it actually did some damage, i get the intent of it being an anti diving tool but it goes off way too infrequently.
>starting on defense>they're running magick, panther, wolverine>All I can do is go huik and play tower defenese for my supportWould've been a fun match, we held them on second, but then we had a leaver. Gotta love how you have a leaver and it still counts against you as if it were a normal match, idk how anyone is retarded enough to take ranked games seriously when there's so much blatantly poorly designed bullshit like that in play
>>507356417I keep mine private cause I dont want my coworkers to see how much I playedd this game
>>507349869Her being a "melee character" with a spammable m1 ranged attack is retarded, melee risk and reward is the only reason i don't really hate good BP or magik players