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RELEASE DUELIST NOW

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Old >>507709931
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play hardcore
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>Five fucking days of noncstop ritual farming
>with the extra reroll passive
>with Precursors at every tower nearby,
>which I have to buy for retarded prices because they do not fucking drop. I can run one breach that happens to be in my maps and get 1 or 2 tablets every time, but I haven't seen a ritual tablet in at least 3 days
>and no Audience
>in five fucking days
>as someone whose primary source of money and xp in PoE1 was ritual every league
>I have not gotten a single thing I consider even remotely valuable in that time, let alone the Audience
>in five fucking days
Hey Jonathan
Kill yourself. Unironically just die. Let some Tencent gook take over
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can't wait for MF to be gutted, you faggots are going to cry so much.
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>no increased gold find on gear
What were they thinking
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>>507740970
Gladiator*
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>>507741151
MF % rolls are going to be lowered
any existing gear is just treated as legacy
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>>507740970
How do you guys search for good Time-Lost jewels? Even the trade site is in EA...
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>>507741224
lol this actually struck me as odd.
it really feels like d2 and man some gold find would be awesome for gambling.
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SLOM?
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Is this the best and cheapest emotion trait for melee?
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>>507741224
Mf affects gold
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GGG NEEDS TO GET OFF THEIR FAT FUCKING KIWI ASSES AND ADD DUELIST TO THE GAME
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Rarity is pretty poggers I must say bwos.
I've added a 42% ring and a 29 helmet and now I'm dropped rares left and right.
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>>507741539
This but bear
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you guys can do 1000% waystone maps with pen including ritual without dying...right?
surely you are stronger than a warrior?
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>>507741353
doesn't matter.
i played poe when the iiq gem still dropped.
i also played poe when i was getting a couple of magebloods a day in necropolis.
nothing matters, do what you find fun.
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>>507741652
Nice rarity and quant roll
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>>507741815
Well yeah brother
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>>507741652
i didn't know suffering until i ran a juiced map with CDR on my gas grenade witchhunter.
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>>507741224
gold has rarity too and mf would upgrade "small" gold stacks into beeg gold stacks
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>>507741623
The bear is going to suck.
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Where's the expedition locker?
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I don't play minion builds, is this good?
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>Haven't played poe in a couple months
>Try out my favorite character from settler's league for a couple maps
>Game is immediately more fun and enjoyable than the 100 hours I've had in poo2
If they don't fix poo2 by march I'm gonna say it
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>>507741996
no hammer or sunder was annoying but really rares die in like 2-3 stampedes anyway so whatever
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how well does this run on the steam deck?
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>>507742303
not really.
inc spirt and minion level are the two most important affixes.
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>>507742047
It should be two different stats.
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i just dunno how you're supposed to get anything if you're not already decked out and blasting t15 breaches, i've been sitting on a divine for days and i'm lucky to see an exalt a map. but my next big upgrade is probably a ryslatha's and i'll never get there
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>>507742234
it was removed to increase the weightfulness of the game.
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>>507742493
I see, thanks.
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>>507741493
Id roll life from death (triple greed) for 3% life on kill if you dont have the 4% life support

Parrying motion is good too ire fear ire
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HONESTLY?

Trials of Suggma is really fun
ONLY.. if you get the res + additional buy options and get a couple of boons up and running early
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>blocks your "50% increased effect of Small Passive skills" node
FOR WHAT PURPOSE, JONATHAN?
FOR WHAT PURPOSE?
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>>507742850
tax nodes have existed forever
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>dreadnought
>take 2 steps forward
>have to retread 50 feet back while kiting a million enemies coming out of nowhere
>rinse and repeat for 30 minutes
My build fucking sucks
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>>507741151
they could remove rarity from the game completely and fubgun would still have 10,000x more currency than the redditors crying about it and they'd just find some new game mechanic to blame instead
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>>507742850
Inventory slots are one of the best fucking traits you fucking faggot
During Wildwoods league when it was introduce, literally everyone ran it. I'd gladly take that over some of my lukewarm passive options. Especially when the passive increase thing is so fucking massive
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>>507742850
I don't mind a tax node when the quality of life is this good, except, it isn't, because when you mass identify items it misses the extra slots. And you can't ctrl+click transfer them or anything either or apply currency conveniently from there. It's bizarre how many functions the chest is just inexplicably missing.
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>>507742924
i like the idea of the dreadnought, but what a stupid layout. and all the leaping mobs, it's funny to think someone could look at that and then say 'ye it's like dark souls.'
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>>507743094
they had it right during affliction, idk how they fucked it up in poe2.
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>>507743094
>when you mass identify items it misses the extra slots
I mean that just sounds like a bug
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>>507743167
b-but the rolling!
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>>507742850
>he doesn't have a box that holds a stack of each crafting currency + wisdoms + the next 12 maps he's running
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>>507743094
>And you can't ctrl+click transfer them or anything either or apply currency conveniently from there.
The part about no identification doesn't phase me but this part legitimately ruffles my feathers.
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>>507742904
>>507743072
>>507743331
A fucking chest.
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>>507742850
I FEEL LIKE PUTTING QOL STUFF LIKE THAT BEHIND AN ASCENSION IS KINDA RETARDED

BUT THATS JUST MY TWO CENTS
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>>507742850
its basically a tax since that node is numerically very good.
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Do normal mobs count for delirium, or should I clear map first and then run Delirium?
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>>507743515
They count
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRWbc4XEJ04

>"Rarity is more broken than Quantity ever was in PoE1"

WOW!

GGG really messed up......
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>>507742850
it seems shit but it's unironically a massive QOL
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Many people are saying that they will stop playing POE 2 unless GGG adds Swords and Duelist to the game soon.
Is this true?
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>>507743702
>>507741539
I don't understand your obsession
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I don't care if Jonathan is the face of PoE2 I'm still blaming that bald retard for everything bad
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them not giving a currency page to f2p players is crazy after all these years
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should i buy it from steam or the ggg site?
also just the basic pack for muh 12 regular tabs i supose. there is no offer or anything better as far as I'm checking...
t. maxx value enthusiast aka poor.
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>>507743779
He's probably like me: We want a bleed block build and everything in the game sucks right now. How did they make retaliation skills so good in poe and immediately ditch them in poe2?
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>>507743779
A lesser man would never understand.
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I fucking hate how they implemented stun in this. Why do they need to take a step back?
I place my tempest bell all for nothing every other time because of the dumb stun.
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>>507743916
If you're trying to save some money, don't buy the tabs until they go in sale again.
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What does quality even do on rings?
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Alright Invoker bros, I've got 6 points to spend after stripping some stuff I didn't really need. What's the secret sauce?
I've tried:
>+1 to all res + ES in the top left
>+60% ES node above 25 int, then +85% recharge startup
>Immaterial/Shimmering ES/EV cluster
>16% damage to life as mana
>+6% movespeed with some EV/ES and pure EV
None felt like they particularly solved anything

Any hidden gems
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>>507744303
Just get 2 duh
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I need Lily to bounce on my dick. Never before have I wanted something so badly.
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>>507743575
so. much. this!
ignore picrel
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>>507743702
no, add harvest instead
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>>507743779
nta but melee just isn't the same without swords and axes + the skills and supports that go with them. Dual wield Giant's Blood Voidforge can't come soon enough
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>>507743575
everyone that complains about rarity is actually braindead retarded and incapable of having a logical thought

all feelings based and zero coherent arguments have been provided for why its bad
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how do i into ice strike leveling
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RskRFwgoQ5g&t=6945s
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Johnathan genuinely looks like some kind of alien creature. I don't trust him at all.
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>>507745194
put socket in 4 different bells
press ice strike bells are ready
press qwer
continue pressing ice strike
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>>507745154
still getting nerfed bro, sorry.
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AIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE WHERE ARE THE DOTTED LINES
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>>507745478
the weight... do you feel it?
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>>507739512
>2 weeks ago there wasn't enough loot
because they hadn't buffed it yet
>last week there was too much
because people finally got to end game and stacked rarity after the buffs
>in a few days it will be x is y
there is a lot of shit to complain about in the game, I imagine this will continue for some time as people find more and more things to be dissatisfied with. Anything else you'd like to add?
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>>507745478
you bricked yourself
congratulations
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>>507743575
unfortunately fubgun is like the most cringe kind of PoE streamer "the softcore jooocer", his opinion on a lot of things should be disregarded

>>507745154

heres my reasoning, if i want to get the most money possible, why shouldnt i do the hardest content possible, why is the path to the most rewards running t10 in 540% MF gear? If i could simultaneously get 540% MF gear and run t16s 100% delirious i agree, else no
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>>507745432
probably yes just to get everyone to stop bitching because gamers are retarded

>>507745642
>If i could simultaneously get 540% MF gear and run t16s 100% delirious i agree, else no

You can! Its just incredibly chase and rare to have gear to do all that!
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I realized something recently
I am the master of my own world. If I want to shit my pants, who can stop me?
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>>507745154
>lowercase redditspacing pajeet has tranny opinions and tranny takes
Imagine my shock!
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Does waystone level affect the Nameless Seer?
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>>507746191
Shitting your pants doubles your MF
Don’t let Johnathan know I told you
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>>507745580
the way i see it, anything that i'm not doing at any given moment is too overpowered and needs to be nerfed.
how the fuck is it fair some asshole can run through sanctum, kill a few bosses, and bam! chest worth dozens of divines.
fucking bullshit.
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>>507746191
in theory no one
but be truthfull, arent years of conditioning stopping you from doing it? are you truly able to shit your own pants right now and claim to be a master of your own world as you want to be?saying I could If I wanted to doesnt count, only actually doing it counts. and then if you actually managed to do it, was it really you, or was it me?
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I was thinking, i've probably spent more time here being negative than playing the game
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>>507746306
>still unable to provide an argument

wow interesting
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>>507746453
its literally this lol, people with fomo because they didn't find out magic find is incredibly good and now they are mad that they need to swap gear if they want to get some more mf
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>>507746492
One's thoughts are one's own. Even if you give me an idea, it's still up to my subconscious mind to weight thousands of options before making me shit my pants. To think about whether you 'thought for me' is nothing more than metacognition being a fag.
All of our thoughts and actions are inherently influenced by our surroundings, not purely of our own. But it's me who decided to shit my pants. I did it immediately, before even processing what you said.
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>>507746567
me too, but the more i think about playing the more i realize at the current state the game is just weapon archetype with 1 borken ability that you use and thats it, and some builds using broken/bugged interactions
in total, there are like 6 builds at the moment
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>>507746453
wonder how many temporalis will exist once people cant just delete the boss before it can move
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idk how to tell the difference between something worth 1 exalt or 10 divines
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Newsflash dumbasses, you dont need perfect rolled gear to do T10-T13s, you can sacrifice some power for magic find gear and you will be perfectly fine
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWoFiQknnQo
his right
watch it or dont
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I refuse to run MF because I'm accumulating good karma. Buddha is going to reward me for not being tempted. When Jonathan does the rollback on returning to the office, I alone will be protected.
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>>507746949
if you list something too low you'll get bombarded by whispers
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man the shilling for vids on this sub is insane.
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>>507746962
>grinding t10-t13s like a wagie trying to beat skyrocketing inflation by 50000% MF click to win map chinese bots where an item worth 1 div is now 10 div next week
>cucked out of 80+ content
Or just wait till they push the reset button
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>>507747178
fuck off pepe posting reddit retard
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>>507746801
a toddler can shit their own pants, only after they became masters over their anus they can stop
so i would say not being able to shit your pants is a sign of mastery, its just a mastery that alot of people managed to aquire.
think of something that you should be able to do that you should have mastered as a growing teenager but havnt, thats something to master for you in order to call yourself your own master
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is this any good? idk shit about casters
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Can someone explain how maps work

I'm supposed to be going up each time, right? Like 1 2 3 4 5? What happens if I die in one? What's the reason for going further? How many attempts do I have per map?
I did some maps and I'm 4/10 on Cataclysm's Wake but I'm not sure what I'm actually accomplishing by doing this
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>>507746801
>But it's me who decided to shit my pants. I did it immediately, before even processing what you said.
the master of his own world... a new breed of turbochad
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>>507747372
enjoy the endgame chud (im in the same boat)
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>>507747294
A toddler can shit their own pants, but upon growing, everyone learns not to. Most people would refuse to shit their own pants, but I can do it on a whim. I have achieved what others cannot. Toddlers do not consciously shit their own pants; they simply do. I consciously shit my pants. The average person is even less than the toddler I overcame.
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>>507747232
>grinding t10-t13s like a wagie

thats literally the entire game though
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>>507747558
I now get what TS elliot meant, truly inspiring, It start and end with shitting our pants
>We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time
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>55 MTX coins just fucking gone out of nowhere
Lol, thanks niGGGers. Glad I snagged the Stash Tabs on sale, but means fuckall is they're just gonna rob me of the remaining coins.
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>>507747354
>put item up for 1ex
>wait
>get spammed with whispers, adjust price else vendor
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>can't anoint on ammy
lol
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>>507747354
Think they want + to spell skills.
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I don't know how they will save warrior / maces. Maces seem so fucked skill wise. I like them but everyday I play, I see how ass they can be. Some fights are miserable if you aren't abusing hammer of the gods or shockwave totem. Supercharge slam feels so ass to use now as no boss is ever stunned long enough that you can stage 5 super charge slam. I just want to slam. However, it feels like I have to set myself up to deal damage while moving somehow otherwise I will die. I think that is where the warrior lacks if you play it normally. You can't move and do your slams.
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>>507746828
I agree with this. I can't play what i want. Maybe i'm just done with the game and the problem is me idk
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>>507747847
whats happening?
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Starting a Stormweaver, what are the best uniques for leveling?
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>playing infernal flame infernalist
>keep accidently blowing myself up
The real psyker experience
>>507747847
Relog. Happened to me too.
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>>507744351
oh yeah. I have enough tabs from poe1, I will hold the coins for sales / map stash when is out
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>>507748103
Goldrim
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>>507746059
Okay so ill phrase it the other way.

So why should the path to most currency be doing a t14 with 500% rarity than a t16+2 with 0?

its because the rewards for juicing up content is bad, also we have had this conversation since bisco got added. We have frequently had it be the best way to get gear was just doing low tier maps with rarity and quantity over high tier maps because of shit like div cards in the past
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>>507747120
in general all i know is triple elemental res is good to look for, 50 spirit on amulets, very high item rarity, skill levels, and sometimes damage mods. for some reason crit/crit damage is a bad stat in this game which is the inverse of every game i've every played.
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>>507748141
I thought the ideal playstyle was reaching a point where you can ignore the blowback from overcapping flame.
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>>507748245
Why do you care so much about what other people are doing
SSF is literally a singleplayer game
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>>507748372
Crit damage is literally the best stat for damage in this game. Crit damage is stronger here than in poe 1.
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>Run 6mod t15 breach deli
>Health never drops below 50%
>Run 6mod t15 breach deli
>2 seconds after loading, the 12-mod MurderKill The Unclean zooms over and 1shots me
ok
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Disenchant or sell for gold? Ive been selling if its high enough on gold and disenchanting others, dont know if I should go full on gold or disenchanting
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chat is this good?
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>>507748757
Pretty meh. Low Rarity, mana regen and accuracy are useless mods.
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>>507748651
unironically skill issue
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>>507726548
magma barrier is already insanely good but nobody uses it for some reason
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>>507748729
if you're lacking regals disenchant otherwise sell
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I had a ton of fun playing campaing and some maps, 150 hours now
but looking at pinnacle bosses it seems I have to invest 300 more hours of endless map grinding just to get 1 attempt at the pinnacle boss
or am i wrong? how hard is it to get those materials for endgame bosses?
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>>507748396
Burden of optimal play, look it up. PoE is also a multiplayer game
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>>507748245
>So why should the path to most currency be doing a t14 with 500% rarity than a t16+2 with 0?

because you would get more currency for T16+2 with 500%


you are trading off not getting as much exp by not doing max tier content, which they have kind of disincentivized chasing anyway because getting to max level is insane amount of time needed.


Again there is no reason the way it is done right now is bad except the fact people think that you NEED to be doing the max tier content at all times for good rewards, why are people mad that you dont have to be

The "nerf" is going to be making nothing but top tier content be good rewards and then everyone is going to bitch about that too anyway, the way the system is setup now gives SSF and tradies a viable way of actually farming currency for crafting their own gear without needing to do that hardest content just to interact with the crafting system
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>>507748381
I have not reached that point yet. Still leveling so I just explode.
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>>507749270
>PoE is also a multiplayer game
it is not.
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>>507745154
incorrect
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>>507749128
Sick. What's your build?
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>>507749271
>The "nerf" is going to be making nothing but top tier content be good rewards and then everyone is going to bitch about that too anyway,
110% this is exactly what is going to happen.
and it's not going to be fair because 'well they are able to do that content because they abused the magic find hack so they have better gear.'
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>>507745240
WHERE IS IT JONATHAN!?
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>>507744371
The big nodes near the start are good
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IS poe2 still full of random one shots when too many modifiers stack up on a rare creep?
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>>507746453
that is what we like to call a non sequitur. Just because you mock the other position with some retardposting doesn't mean you win
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What options do I have for support characters? Looking to play with friends.
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>>507749847
Doesn't even have to be a rare lol
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>>507749847
Its the V I S I O Nâ„¢. Deal with it.
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luckiest fucking drop of my life
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>>507746059
So you say it doesn't need to be nerfed, and let's just say for sake of argument I'll agree. Can you come with a good reason for why it SHOULD be in the game?
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>>507749797
Do you mean the 24% EV/ES stuff? If so I've already spent a point to grab that and respec a little at the start
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>evens I give the wife the meat monster
>odds I roll whatever the fotm shitcrow build is so I can finally see the endgame without a RIP in t10s for the fifth time
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>>507749858
>t. whiney nerf happy faggot
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>>507749847
A white mob will one shot you now
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>>507745478
Some retard said it's 1 in a million chance a few days ago
Guess what, if the map can generate nodes that aren't connected to anything it will eventually get cut off
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>>507749543
made a full guide the other day actually

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/7acb29a3-43bf-4d7b-ae81-d21c3afd6264/builds/9d214078-ca85-4b6a-9f5c-f45183dd3240
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so what
does this mean I have the Hideout now? how do I access it? just found one on the map and hit it
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>>507750203
talk to alva
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>>507750092
this is also not an argument
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Prowling Shades are the NIGGEREST of mobs they've ever put in poe
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>>507750043
its a choice for you to balance in regards to how much you are willing to sacrifice for more rarity, just like any other affix you want

if someone was to say "all stats on gear should only be related to combat effectiveness" then I would buy that philosophy of design but having it on gear isn't inherently wrong either
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>>507750361
Oh this is cool
Thanks!
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>>507750624
>sacrifice and choice XD
There's no sacrifice. Either you're a ranged character in which case defenses are option, or you're not. Fuck off.
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>>507750057
ok idk what to play but I'm committed, is it spark sorc or the gemling howa? LA? I can't afford howa so if it's that what do I play until I can buy it? Help me out br/o/thers
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>>507749858
so you counter my non sequitur with an ad hominem.
well played.
lets say they remove rarity from that game.
then what? the people who are more efficient than you are still going to farm more and have better shit.
maybe we should all be allotted a currency ration every day?
maybe the game should stop dropping currency once you find 10 exalts or 1 divine.
you are just a retard who got triggered by a youtube video lol.
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>>507750852
based
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i found 6 citadels but no seer or shrine hideout
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>>507750771
Once again requesting a T10+ blue magic find gear on a ranged character webm
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is there any way to automate crossbow load order? like shoot 2 ice walls, then switch to frag and then repeat it automatically, in game of course you could also have a macro to do it
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>>507751128
i dont think so but that should be a spirit support or something
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can someone explain what annoiting a trait on amulet means? how do you do it? I looked it up and there isnt much explanation besides you need an essence
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>>507751128
HAHA

No.
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>>507745154
It exacerbates build disparity by giving builds which have a lower priority in the prefix slot greater progression which can't be tuned for equality in the future. It incentivizes sacrificing optionns that improve gameplay in order to maximize rewards. What fucking possible reason could anyone have for wanting it to stay.
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>>507750417
what is the argument?
>i don't like that other people have something i don't have!
thats an argument a child makes.
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legit considering clearing my stash entirely and making a new character that is SSF. it feels like that is how the game is meant to be played. should I do it?
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>>507751337
I think the best option is HC trade, played like SSF where you only sell spare drops for currency to use on SSF gear.
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>>507750139
I fuckin hate the music on your video.
Make another one, don't use shit music, and show yourself killing a boss.
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>>507749847
i got one shot by a white mobs shockwave in a tier 5 map. i have 1500 life and 5500 energy shield and 25% or more to all resists.
I legit stared at the death screen for 2 minutes just baffeled. "How did I just get one tapped??"
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>>507751252
don't bother trying to ask shit in this general
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>>507751301
perfect builds sure, you dont need perfect builds to clear T10+ content
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>>507751475
it's youtube's royalty-free music, make your vid own if you dont like it
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>>507750624
It's a false choice for a large majority of builds. That's the problem with it. It is literally free for all of the powerful builds. There is no trade off presented. And since it is easier on the more powerful builds, it represents a widening of the gap between those builds, and other builds. ARPGs are games about acquiring gear through killing monsters. Having certain builds be more efficient at that means metas eventually devolve around certain archetypes. In D2 it was always the MF sorc. This sort of balancing makes gameplay incredibly stale, and it also undermines power acquisition by short circuiting the natural drop rates set by the devs.
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>>507749271
>Again there is no reason the way it is done right now is bad except the fact people think that you NEED to be doing the max tier content at all times for good rewards, why are people mad that you dont have to be

Actively gimping yourself for more rewards by doing easier content is better than making yourself stronger and doing harder content. Reaching the pinnacle then going for MF is much better but if you think your being a genius thinking yeah im gonna go farm lvl 75 cemetaries, its better than doing t16s that is a fundamental design issue..

The fact is rarity right now in its currrent state is something you never take off no matter what (i have been running 200% rarity since whenever they fixed res), and the fact rarity is also quantity and affects basically everything. It needs literally like an 80% effectiveness nerf IMO, its pretty fucking nuts atm, which is why it needs a nerf. In fact if you dont have a max possible rarity set your actively gimping yourself on blood shard gambling atm since its based on your equipped rarity

>>507750771

I would do it but finding blue gear is ass. Ive cleared t16s on a character on 0% all res but that was not fun and spooky.
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>6 maps and no waystone drops
>have all the waystone quantity nodes
it's a curse
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>>507750852
I didn't make an ad hominem. Would you care to point out what you think an ad hominem is ?
>slippery slope and non sequitur continue
Bro can you argue in good faith at all? Do you know the definitions of words? I'm trying to be generous here, but calling you a retard based on YOUR words isn't an ad hominem, it's pointing out your lack of IQ.
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>>507751252
https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Distilled_Emotion
have a distilled emotion, right click it to bring up the anointing window. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EXTRA DISTILLED EMOTIONS. if you leave your amulet in the window and close it you can't get your amulet back until you get more
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>>507751337
This game is a trading game, SC SSF is for vegans (HC SSF is also for vegans). HC trade is the only good option but nobody is on HC trade atm either since the streamer-men are avoiding it
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>>507750139
how much armour has your shield got? I really like magma barrier and I'm using those fire to cold gloves, it freezes quite reliably at which point I swap to frag shotgun to blow them up.
I feel like resonating shield is a bit lacklustre here when raise shield is just fine but the rage regen is nice. I tried working it into this current build for its armour shred properties but keep falling back to that same boneshatter armour explode stun combo and armour piercing rounds for bosses to setup my sunder
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>>507751317
this is the argument >>507751896
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I very distinctly remember Ziz asking Jonathan if he was afraid that PoE 2's endgame would be too slow for PoE 1 players and Jonathan saying "I expect players to be just as fast as you would be in PoE 1 endgame" so where did this slow and methodical thing come from
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>Last Epoch is going to get WASD movement
it's genuinely over for GGG...
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>>507750139
Much appreciated. I'm in the midst of running a super shield build that bashes enemies to death.

I obviously have absolutely no clue what it is that I am doing and the end of cruel rapidly approaching. This gives me a way to pivot into a real build.
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>>507752268
it came from jonathan lying about the actual game design
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>>507751896
>this sort of balancing makes gameplay incredibly stale,
the game is modeled after D2 and people still play D2 to this day lol
>>507751938
>Reaching the pinnacle then going for MF is much better
That is literally in the game right now if you desire

>Ive cleared t16s on a character on 0% all res but that was not fun and spooky.
Exactly my point
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>>507752096
>MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EXTRA DISTILLED EMOTIONS. if you leave your amulet in the window and close it you can't get your amulet back until you get more.

bravo GGG bra fucking VA
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>>507752397
and yet people are mad that temporalis makes you faster than you could currently be in PoE 1
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God I hate the red forest map, you just keep getting blocked by random shit, be it trees, rocks, or random cliff edges that were by 1deg too steep
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>>507752415
>the game is modeled after D2 and people still play it
this is not an argument
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I thought Cloak of Flame was useful, why is it so cheap?
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>>507752475
GIVE BACK FLAME DASH
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>>507752417
the weight... IT'S TOO MUCH
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>>507752074
awwww shit, little babby realized that he got gas lighted by the lispy norwegian homosexual and is going to pivot into
>i was le trolling.
unironically based.
you should save your effort lil babs, in a few days you are going to have a whole new current thing to seethe about.
>we need to talk about the arbiter
>is there a problem with move speed on boots? how come this guy is so fast?
>nerf the warrior!?!?! are totems that crazy!?!?!?!
don't forget to like and subscribe.
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>>507752638
i will NOT wear the dress
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>>507752456
>niche unique only a few people can get makes game fast (not as fast as poe1 at all looke up lighting warp tornado shot)
this is a whataboutism. Exceptions do not make the rule
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>>507752638
its cheap because even if you fucking x4 your total armor value, it doesnt change the fact that armor is dogshit.
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Should I just be doing all the nodes so there's no blue left or just tower rush?
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>>507752578
yes it is, you claimed it gets stale but people are perfectly fine with MF sorc being a thing lol
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I have faith that Duelist will be the next class released.
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>failed this one 3 times
>running out of tier 3 waystones
fug
is there any reason to not just buy them from doryani
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>>507752753
johnathan said dudu and javazon are up next.
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>>507752638
because it is super common, same for caged god. Doesn't matter how good an item is if it drops like candy then it's not worth shit
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>>507752723
what about people complaining that spark is a one button build that clears entire screens?
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>>507752753
I remember POE1 launch in, I think 2013 (fuck). I played Duelist.
Duelist was the worst class in the game back then.
I still had fun.
Surely, Duelist in POE2 will be chad tier no?
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>>507752840
Things change.
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New to the game
I wanted to make a battle mage so I went Sorc and ended up giving her a quarterstaff and realized I ended up just making a monk because I went down the tree to take the monk talents
Level 20 only
Should I just reroll to monk or is this not going to be so bad?
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i just realized the drowned city is the same as the one in the future. this is like my 9th time going through it.
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>>507752662
I wasn't trolling at all. Can you define what an ad hominem is? I don't think you know the meaning of the word.
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>>507752970
>go to the past
>same exact bosses exist as in the future
ebin
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>>507752301
>been asking for wasd in arpg games since 2010
>every forum post/feedback thread in every arpg game about it gets shunned
>"click to move is better anyway"
>"and if wasd is better that would suck because then everyoen would be forced to use it"
>endure years of paiin in my mouse hand
>wasd finally comes
>everyone agrees its the best thing and every arpg should have it
i'm gonna eternally seethe over this
>pic related is me learning scripts to fix it myself ages ago
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>>507752750
What people feel fine with in a niche title that only a few people still play is not a relevant point of discussion. It is not an ought or even a should claim, it is an appeal to popularity fallacy. It is exactly not relevant
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>>507753083
I still hate wasd
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>>507753148
So games should change to appeal to the largest demographic possible?
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>>507753083
Maybe you should have made your own good ARPG with WASD as an option and people would have adopted it sooner.
Well at least now that PoE2 has done it is likely that diablo 5 will have WASD too.
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>>507752879
What about spamming 1 button to kill things implies speed of gameplay? Do you know what speed is? It is a measure of distance/unit of time. That may help you formulate some sort of coherent thought
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>>507753305
Do you know how to read? Slow AND methodical. Idiot retard
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>>507753204
that's ok anon, luckily for you, click to move is still in the game, even favorable for some melee builds I would say, especially when it comes to 1 button grinding maps
my point being, ppl being against wasd because they preferd click to move and didnt want others to enjoy the game in a different way
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>>507753234
This is an appeal to popularity as well. Do you not know the definition ? Make a fucking logical argument, dullard.
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>>507752142
1.1k armour on my shield, havent tried it with freeze but that sounds interesting. the thing with magma barrier is that it hits so hard it never seemed necessary to have an ailment on it. resonating shield is just in my build to give utility, don't think you can put support gems into raise shield
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>>507753083
thats the average experience going into other games forum or reddit basically. i dont know these people just NEED to disagree with everything you say.
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>>507753503
You are literally saying this.
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I like click to move better because I played way too much D2 and mained ADC in League so it just works for me
But the option for WASD is objectively a good thing more options is always a good thing
Controller support next?
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>>507753421
You made an initial claim of slow and methodical, while only implicating methodical was incorrect. You failed to abide by your own standards, so why should I have bothered in my own rebuttal?
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>>507752998
why would i engage with someone who is just retardposting.
just say 'i was only trolling' and move on.
in a few days you are going to need to get outraged about the new current thing, save your energy for that. much more retardposting in your future.
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>130 hours
>2/3 keys to the tower
>0 upgraded essences
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>>507753148
D2 is not a niche title lol what

and its going to get nerfed in POE because of appeal to popularity, your argument is stupid
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I like my build, but after seeing the builds streamers are doing, fuck it, there's no point. There's no point to play anything but these few meta builds that blow up the entire screen with high mf. I'm done.
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why are you wannabe debatebros shitting up the thread. go back to destiny's discord you faggots
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>>507753602
I am not LITERALLY saying this. You are. An ad populum fallacy doesn't depend on the size of the population you are appealing to you fucking nigger. Would you care to make an actual argument?
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>>507751705
It's not just an end game problem. I levelled my second character maintaining rarity on the way for taste and he was dropping more currency in campaign than my yellow maps character was getting. It's fucking obscene in its current state and it's bound to warp any leagues it's present for. Maybe end game post inflation magic find pieces with great stats are going to be fifty divs weeks into a league but it costs like 10 exalts to get a magic find set with minimally capped resistances on a progressing character and the ones who don't need accuracy to do damage are going to sky rocket ahead.
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>>507753862
You are LITERALLY saying this.
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are ascendancy chests meant to be shit? not one good item
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>filter for exalts
Yep, its trading time....
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>>507742850
*Does nothing*
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>>507753739
why not press leap slam and stun him or big hammer and delete him
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>>507741539
You're so fucking retarded and annoying. Gladiator is shit both before and after the recent rework. Slayer no longer exists. Who fucking cares about shitty fucking duelist.
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>>507753826
I' in the exact same boat, I had a ton of fun playing the game, after finishing the campaign blind I looked up what other people were doing, sucked all the fun out of it for me.
Feels like they are playing with cheat engine and thats the intended way to play. It's like playing cookie clicker.
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Is howa stat-stacking just better than any conventional damage scaling for literally all attack builds? It sure seems that way.
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>>507753759
I'm still not retardposting, and you are still incorrect about the definition of an ad hominem. I accept your concession since you can seem to come up with no coherent argument

>>507753790
rarity should be nerfed because of the already outlined issues with it. That a large number of people seem to agree with these points is not an appeal to popularity. An appeal to popularity means that the only argument is "thing i like", do you understand?

Can you make an argument why rarity SHOULD NOT be nerfed?
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Licking the salty jungle sweat off of Alva
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>Have a lot of armor
>Get hit really hard
>Need that armor
>Don't have any armor
wow!
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>>507754089
You are a bad person.
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>>507753739
skill issue, unironically
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How are people doing Flicker Strike builds when
>you can only have 7 power charges at once
>you can't gain charges while using it
>you can't use it with bell without building combo for bell first
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>>507753906
Pretty much only the jewel chests (Royal?) are worthwhile
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>>507754146
Not 1 person has outlined a legitimate issue with it that isn't "thing I like" feels

Not 1 actual legitimate argument, every build is capable of building MF, the actual problem is the fucked builds that need to be nerfed, MF isn't the actual issue here
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>>507753582
I mean you are talking to fans of ARPGs and then telling them the way they have been playing the genre for decades is WRONG and they should completely change it.
That sounds batshit insane, even if he's right.
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>>507751947
first waystone after 7 maps (doing T14)
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>>507752415
>the game is modeled after D2 and people still play D2 to this day lol
First off not an argument, secondly your a fucking lunatic if you think because some autists special interest game is still their special interest 24 years later, means that we must now emulate it? D3 is still played to this day too (i actually played it a few months ago), that doesnt mean we need grifts in PoE2

>Exactly my point
Your point is that.... all stats are irrelevant?
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>>507754171
Eating the witches ass so she doesnt or does turn you into her undead slave

i need to read some fanfic of a powerful hero pretending to be weak so he can get dommed by the evil queen
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i think rewards should be tied to content difficulty and not a stat in the game :D
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>>507753641
>t. "I dont want wasd because then i wouldnt gain a advantage from using orbwalking scripts anymore"
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>>507745642
He's a huge asshole too. Fuck that guy and any retard sheep following him.
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>>507754238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w8eZR7QuUI
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>>507752415
>the game is modeled after D2 and people still play D2 to this day lol
PoE and PoE2 play absolutely nothing like D2, unless you count Project Diablo 2 which is intentionally trying to turn Diablo 2 into PoE
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>>507754546
>He's a huge asshole too
elaborate, i don't watch him
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>>507754146
>I'm still not retardposting
well your posts would indicate otherwise.
why not play a good game like diablo 4? no mf nonsense there. you play your toon and stuff for your build drops constantly. it's the perfect system!
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>>507747232
Deserved for being a tradiefag who has no idea how to actually play the game.
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>>507754459
If you think about it for a minute, these are one and the same
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>do trial of sekhema
>+50% trap speed
>flameshooty thing that shoots little fireballs oneshots me by permastunning me
...
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>>507754446
My point is that you wouldn't be doing T16s with zero defenses and be doing it efficiently, christ are you all actually stupid?

This isn't a competitive game, having imbalance in the economy does not matter at all, not one bit
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Is there an item class for all weapons or do I have to list all the basetypes and have my filter break when swords come out?
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>>507753873
notice how the faggot never responded to this post
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>>507754546
>>507754656
Yeah im interested too, i know empyrian has acted like a fucking twat in the past and isnt very interesting, i just assumed fubgun is the exact same
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get rekt
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>>507751301
everyone calling for an mf nerf sounds very emotional, like this is coming from drama-farming youtube vids, not personal experience
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Log in. Stash tab that had all my waystones and tab that had all the rings and amulets that I was hanging onto are both gone. Send email, but see people saying it has taken a week plus to get responses.
All my waystones bros.
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Why do I feel like life or resists or defense in general is completely worthless in POE2.
Or you have classes like Minion Witch where all your damage is from the passive tree and not gear (because your gear needs Spirit, a dogshit mechanic).
Meanwhile, you can play a Ranger, not invest in any defense, stack the highest damage nodes in the tree, stack all damage on gear and not even care about defense.
And guess who is one shotting Tier 15 maps while you struggle on Tier 5-8?
So POE2 is basically a game where being a Glass Cannon will win?
Why am I playing anything else then? Why do I care about knowing mechanics and on death effects, which enemies have deadly attacks, map and enemy knowledge, item knowledge, boss knowledge.
None of that matters if everything is dead as soon as I press my mouse button once.
The devs had the audacity to completely kill a build (Sorceress) which was good but NOT completely bonkers, and nerf minions and then go on holidays and leave Deadeye Ranger how it was.
So basically, I should just delete all my characters and make a glass cannon?
What sort of game is that? Even the new classes will be clunky dogshit with issues like the current ones.
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>>507754626
I see
I do not think my build is capable of anything remotely like that
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Blood mage is good and sexual!
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>>507754856
demon form is more sexual.
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Can I overwrite the instilled passive on an amulet?
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>>507754824
you have been freed from the burden of poe2 endgame
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Endgame? You mean doing the dock runs?
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>>507754921
yes
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One of the most 'affordable' leagues in terms of high end items being cheap was Affliction. This is also where Empyrian stated, as fact, that it was the richest his team ever was in PoE history. The idea that the rich getting richer actually makes it harder for players to get more powerful is not only stupid, it's provably false.
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>group players get so much loot it blocks out the sun

another case of autistic gamers being oppressed. shame GGG didnt do the right thing and give up a 40x loot function in accessibility options
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>>507754041
My turtle gives 5% block and is cute. Let me guess tho.... you need more?
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>>507754981
thank fucking god
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i don't want to hear peoples thoughts about magic find in the thread full of people that cried every fucking league launch about how they cannot make currency, non of you have magic fined you faggots couldn't even do the bare minimum and farm essences in white maps when you could, it's gay and retarded and archaic d2 shit.
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You are playing SSF right? You wouldn't dare be caught tr*ding... right?
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>>507754446
they talk about d2 constantly, they hired former d2 devs as consultants, they invited d2 devs to exilecon to participate in panels.
the first 3 acts of poe 2 mirror the first 3 acts of d2.
ggg want the first classes added to poe 2 to be the same 2 classes that were in the d2 expansion.
if poe 1 was the spirtual successor to d2, poe 2 is a straight up love letter to d2.
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The peak of the ARPG genre is
>Diablo 2 (offline/LAN)
>Torchlight 2
>Grim Dawn
>Last Epoch (circle of fortune)

PoE2 could easily fit into this list if they make SSF an actually enjoyable game mode instead of the miserable gacha sim it is right now
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Realizing another class ascendency can just do the build you're doing, but way better, feels pretty shitty.

Im just playing an inferior build at this point and wasting the existence of this character
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>>507755079
The gorilla really needs to be buffed. Or do fucking something. Getting that retard out of the ancestor slot machine always makes my heart hurt.
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POE 2 should add romanceable NPCs.
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>>507754997
Empy's group has been doing that shit for several leagues now.
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i just wanna play POE1 delve. this game is shit in comparison.
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>>507754997
>reddit leftists don't understand supply and demand
color me surprised
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i keep fucking dying
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honestly if you defend item rarity you deserve to have your throat slit
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>>507755021
the downside is you get one shot all the time because you can't see shit on your screen with all the effects
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>>507754997
everyone whines about the currency part but they also ignore the fact their quality of drops are also improved too and should see high tier drops worth a lot if they also stack magic find

people have zero ability to think properly

If you take away magic find class imbalance will still exist lol, the problem is not magic find
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>>507755127
GGG is too afraid to balance ssf seperately despite doing so with ruthless, they should keep trade faggotry in trade
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>>507755127
>Last Epoch peak
actually kill yourself
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>>507755197
The gorilla does something brother. He charges humanoid sized adds pushing them away from the totems. He also does it with some bosses. Antler ape is a retard.
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boss fight for anyone interested in magma barrier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ExDr-p0hNc
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You can't die if everything is already dead.
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Where do you think the items you buy come from? If there are fewer of those items because the people farming them are getting less loot, what do you think will happen to the price?
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>>507754656
>>507754785
In affliction league, someone in his chat called him out for saying he invented wearing that unique MF chest. Literally everyone wears that and always has. Instantly banned him and told him he was an idiot and other words. Probably many other cases. Such a faggot.
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>unironically advocating for trickle down economics (forma de PoE)
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>>507754825
>Why am I playing anything else then?
cuz ranged is fucking boring, thats why
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>trying desperately to farm 1 divine worth of currency to buy a really good legendary helm
>finally get 1 divine worth of currency
>the item in question has raised from 1 divine to 3-4 divines each
FUCKING CHINK RMT TRADE FAGGOTS. FUCKKKKKKKKKKK.
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>>507755418
if I see a single hammer of the gods I'm turning the video off
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>>507755265
Stop using armor
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>>507754740
>My point is that you wouldn't be doing T16s with zero defenses and be doing it efficiently, christ are you all actually stupid?

My character was in gear it had since lvl 1 at lvl 65 i did a t16 map, it wasnt smart nor wise but i completed it, so okay i guess mf is fine cause i dont need gear to clear maps.


>This isn't a competitive game, having imbalance in the economy does not matter at all, not one bit

What does the word economy imply. Your being intentionally dense atm
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>>507751337
Yeah, ssf is the way. We have very little endgame content at the moment, so anything you can do to squeeze out more gameplay is what you should be doing. Ssf may be artificial difficulty, but it adds a lot of extra time on the clock before your game is tapped dry.
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>>507755619
I had somebody thank me for selling something for "just" 1 divine.
I kind of feel bad for some of the items I don't sell for exalts. But I fucking need that money.
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>>507755279
why would they balance it separately?
you should only play ssf if you know how to play the game without relying on trade 24/7.
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>>507755321
not him but what is wrong with last epoch? I thought people liked it
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>>507755562
trickle down economics actually works btw. It's why salt is 2 dollars at the grocery store and you don't need to wage a war for it.
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ITEM RARITY JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
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I will:

RAVAGE
OBLITERATE
DEMOLISH
and
IMPREGNATE

the Lily pussy.
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>>507755418
Where does your aoe come from? I wrote that skill off because the aoe was tiny.
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>>507755785
Salt is cheap because of economics of scale, not trickle down economics.
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do i need capped resistances to play the fucking game? what the hell man i've died six times in the past half hour and i'm going fucking insane
i'm literally just at t3 maps
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>>507755785
please, unironically, kill yourself
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>>507754221
I'm right though. You're coping right now. It's fine. It takes time to accept.
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>>507755647
Best not watch any warrior bossing video then, Anon
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>equip 200% item rarity
>dont see any difference in loot
does it only work for tier 15?
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alright then fuck y'all I'ma nut
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>>507753575
yeah nice, I have a 850 armour shield which goes alright.
I leant into the fire>cold convert, it's a nice defensive layer. I'm gemling and I'm rolling around shooting regular grenades with cold infuse/more freeze supports and flash bang. if it gets frozen, it gets the shotgun. If it gets stunned, it gets boneshatter.
I definitely need more slots and felt ripped off that having 2 unset rings doesn't give you 2 xtra slots.
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>>507755785
>trickle down economics actually works btw
https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/
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>all these sissy """"""warriors"""""" wearing dresses
lmao
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>>507755879
Yeah
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help bros, my build is very shit so its very hard for me to even complete tier 1 maps. Also dont have any exalted cause i wasted them all on upgrading shit items. Am i bricked and should i just wait for the game to come out to create a new character? Would really appreciate any ideas cause i was really excited to start mapping but im pretty fucked
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Why are there gender locked classes?
I just want to be a cute girl wielding a big big fucking shield.
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Everyone is complaining. Everyone is saying the exact same thing over and over.

You FORGOT it's EA and not a complete game

You FORGOT they went on holiday.

You FORGOT that game development takes time.

You FORGOT that everyone has already posted about checks notes endgame, ascendancy, body blocking, map portals, or whatever your mind body blocks you into not being able to counter with the systems.

You also FORGOT that you are playing their creation, not yours. Let them cook!

Let's be positive, it is Christmas after all.

I got 90 hours out of an EA game and enjoyed every minute of it. I'm consumed with trophies and achievements and for this game to not have ANY and have me dump this much time into it, is quite a feat.

I say GOOD JOB GGG, if this is where early access started, we are in for the best arpg of all time.
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>>507755471
thin air

>>507755562
Its not trickle down economics to say if everyone has a gold mine in their backyard, then everyone has ton of gold to trade as long as you want to put in the work getting it

If you dont want to dig for the gold and bitch about prices thats your own fault
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>>507755920
>that bell

Yeah you do melee cuck, ranged chads can clear any content without any res
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>>507755886
you basically take every aoe node you can, titan ascendancy helps a lot
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>>507755920
>do i need capped resistances to play the fucking game
Unequivocally yes
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>>507751337
The game is not meant to be played SSF currently because there is no good way to craft at all outside of omens which are so fucking rare and expensive they might as well not exist.
PoE1 has shit tons of ways to craft that are very accessible (outside of the huge knowledge barrier) to everyone, this makes SSF in PoE1 very feasible and enjoyable because it truly tests your knowledge of the game mechanics.
However PoE2 basically has no crafting whatsoever, you are just gambling until you hit a good item randomly. It's fucking atrocious game design, the entire game falls apart without trade, yet trade is miserable as well especially with the fucked economy now. Like I genuinely wouldn't recommend playing past the campaign at all in this early access.

So basically PoE1 SSF is a very rewarding way of playing the game, while PoE2 SSF is basically just turning an already CBT system into even more misery.
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>>507754793
bitch stole my kill, she couldve at least said
>we killed him
cunt
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mf advocates unironically think game mechanics work in a vacuum and can't fathom the fact that if it was removed than ggg would just buff loot in other players, you know how they've done in the past and also have a literal manifesto of threatening the opposite in regards to easy trade
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>>507755920
>shocked ground
sis, just dont stand there and enemies wont hit you that hard
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>>507756238
So how do I get capped resistances? I'm this at level 70, and this is after trading for rings with better resistances
Do I need to put rune sockets on everything and slot resistances?
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>>507755920
75 resist is the minimum.
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>>507756292
The whole story is badly written, what do you want.
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>>507756151
get a loot filter
edit it to highlight items your character uses
pick a zone in act 2 or 3 you find easy with good density
farm it and pick up id all the bases you can use
check the vendors often
if your build is gigafucked look around online for people playing similar builds to see what pathing and gems they use
it's bad until it's better
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>>507756076
delete this
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>>507756226
I'm surprised it makes that much difference. It's cool that that build works I might mess around with it when my current one stalls out.
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>>507755920
Resistances are funny in how they're calculated for damage reduction. The game is balanced around the assumption that you have maxed, or over-max, resistances. Grab it and what would one-shot you before is suddenly only dealing 1/3 the damage.
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>>507756450
You need resistances on every piece of gear that it can roll on not just your rings. Preferably 20%+
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>>507756151
what's build, also you get like 10x as many exalts just doing t1 blue maps so may as well just blast them as long as your ascendancy has SOMETHING fun
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>>507754997
yeah bro quantitative easing and the fed money printer have been an absolute boon to the average american salary you are totally right
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>>507756450
lol
lmao
literally get gear that has +20% resist in them. try to get double resists.
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So when we go to Kauri land, will we be killing the not-polynesians or random monsters?
We will clearly kill Oriathans but are New Zealanders allowed to show anything resembling Polynesians in a bad light? Would that end up with some woman doing a dance in their office?
I'm not even really shit posting, this is something I'm actually curious about.
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Where the fuck are my hide effect MTXes
I was thinking about running Blasphemy but this purple ring makes me want to kill myself

How hard it is to import LITERALLY NOTHING. The absence of effects. What the fuck you hack devs, why are they not already in
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>>507756698
We will be killing random monsters and corrupted Karui people
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>>507756571
>>507756639
So what is that
>rings
>amulet
>belt
>boots
>body
?
My gloves slot is taken by a unique and afaik I can't do shit there
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dual herald with polcikern and the lightning jade amulet seems a bit overkill for maps
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>>507756824
If you're using uniques then you have to get better resist gear then. That's the tradeoff for using them.
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>>507754350
So why should MF stay?
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>>507756607
poe rewards are not built on a wage structure though lol, its almost as close as you can get to receiving compensation directly equal to your labor without any middle man
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>>507756607
this is actually true, the average American is 1000000000% richer than anyone else in the world. It's why they Doordash every single meal to their home with a personal butler and then get mad that groceries are slightly more expensive
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will they bring back the auric warriors? i played necromancer just to have an army of giant girls, i didnt even use minion skills i wasted a few skills just to have em around
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I don't want to add other minions but I probably should. Ae brutes cool? Don't really want arsonists.
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>>507756820
They didn't even port vanishing dye over to PoE 2 and that should effectively require nothing of the devs.
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>>507757017
We have bdsm farudic girls now
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>>507756292
you're just some jingakh
you're like one level above the caravan pullers in the maraketh hierarchy
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>>507756990
oh wow you just described the current poe economy
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Noob here if I take 40% increased damage with 2H weapons does that apply to all my skills or just the normal 2H weapon attack?
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>>507757232
all skills which use your weapon
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>>507753083
>transfer pain from pointer finger to three fingers in my left hand
My suffering has only grown over time. Thanks a lot fuckers.
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>>507756824
you need MF on your gear too so make sure you have
>life
>magic find
>x resistance
>x resistance
and possibly another resistance
make sure your boots also have move speed 30%
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Can someone tell me wtf the point of Witch Hunter is?
It feels like every build works better with something else
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The one true silver lining I can glean from all of this is that I can trust GGG with all confidence that they won't budge a single inch into letting casuals ruin their game
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>>507757017
dangerously based
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>>507757409
Can boots roll all of that at once?
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>>507757424
witch hunter doesn't really specialize in anything, it just generally buffs every playstyle you throw at it but in a game like PoE2 that means you are always better off with a build made around a specific ascendancy instead.
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>make zero arguments in favor of magic find
>accuse everyone who is against it of being an irrational monkey
>ignore every argument that walks through the logic of how magic find is stupid
>deny hard facts and evidence about the issues it creates
Magic find apologists are even more retarded than armour apologists and WH apologists.
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>>507757521
Yes
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>>507757521
hah yeah i was half joking but its possible. just aim for some resistance and movement speed on boots
i am ssf outside the unique helmet and its possible
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Remember that time they basically demolished party play loot, empyrian bitched a ton, and then all of Reddit started bitching too for some reason even though its exactly what they wanted lol
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what do at giant monkey, do i run for the door i just get one shotted
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>>507757687
that's gemling
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>>507757691
mf haters are tradetrannies
ALL tradetranny opinions should be discarded
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>>507757424
It's for pure damage on bosses and is otherwise a swiss army knife. But no one uses weapon swap and people run Heralds, so they feel less incentivized to run it
I personally don't see much wrong with it at all. Most ascendancies in PoE2 are mundane as fuck and it just gives a good amount of stats I wouldn't mind having
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>>507757773
overlevel him and come back desu
you need to kill him for skillpoints
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>>507757691
It's just RMT retards who bought into an early access league and expect things not to change at a drop of a hat, holding desperately onto their piles of divine orbs. I can see no other explanation for whiny "pls no change, pls pls" rhetoric that's come out of these subhumans.
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>>507757774
Witch hunter is the same.
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>>507757135
This is a conceptually wrong way to look at a video game protagonist.
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>>507757771
they are all just ready to jump on the bandwagon, doesn't matter what it is. they just want something to complain about.
most of these people have never and will never do higher tier content, their opinions are worthless.
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>>507743382
Yes, "a fucking chest." If you weren't around during Affliction, you'll never understand. Picked items by default go to the main inventory instead of the knapsack -- I mean chest. This means you can keep all your crafting mats in the chest and never have to mess with it. Here's hoping that they're doing this as a test balloon for making it default.
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>>507757424
In theory it actually holds up just fine mathematically and extremely smooth clear but it didn't work out at all in the actual game. People were calculating it as being able to run decimating, culling, and the concentration nodes and didn't realize that concentration couldn't actually be maintained in most encounters no matter how well you play or that culling strike was adjusted down from PoE1. It doesn't really do anything well because of how encounters are designed.

>>507757687
WH is actually anti-synergistic with quite a few damage modes. Like it really wants to play big hits and has really limited options in how to scale offense and defense.
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>>507757914
i play ssf and i do not like magic finds existence because the game is balance around it's inclusion.
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>>507757774
Completely fucking wrong, gemling specializes in stat fuckery builds, where you can use skills and equipment combos you have no fucking right being able to use on any other ascendancy. It's why the strongest build in the game right now is gemling going 1000+ points deep into int while using a quarterstaff and a skill tree that paths all the way to MoM despite merc being the literal farthest away from that keystone as physically possible.

Witch Hunter doesn't enable anything unique, it's a jack of all trades, sure it gives you a bit more damage, a bit more survability, a bit more clear etc but that also means it doesn't enable anything at all. For a blind build sure that works fine but if you are actually playing PoE2 to go endgame then witch hunter is easily the worst ascendancy because you can always find a way to play a build better with a different ascendancy purely because specializing into something is always going to be better than just going with the jack of all trades.
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>>507757135
I always feel hate-speeched by her when she says that at the beginning of her fight. It is said with such racial animosity
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>>507745642
>why is the path to the most rewards running t10 in 540% MF gear

Literally untrue, rarity doesn't even affect breach fragments, which are one of the best sources of income during mapping. 100 IIR runnin a deli stacked breach map with high rolls > 500 IIR farming basic t15's.

Even fubgun literally states he feels significant diminishing returns from going past 200%.
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>>507757765
Neat, I'm up to 24/69/46/20 with this and a new hat
Completely nuked my evasion though, down to 27%
I'm not sure whether to start carving runes in these or not
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>>507756173
same. legit just got done with act 1 with my boneshatter warrior and its AMAZING. i dont see why everyones complaining? like its a bit hard yeah but so is dark souls.
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where to trade? i have 2 extra flasks with charge regeneration every second
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>>507758792
Runes are basically free you should be using them at all times
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>>507758281
>getting personally offended over video game characters not jerking off your PC enough
self-insert fags are a bane on this industry
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>>507757773
You have to fight him in melee range and strafe around him. Dodge his swings.
Usually 3-4 regular swings before he does another 1 shot slam.
Also don't stand in front of him, or he will barrel roll and squish you.

He always opens with a 1 shot slam, so you gotta run directly at him and roll out of the way.
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>>507758792
if youre going evasion why are you using an ES base
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Odds Inferal
Evens Stormweaver
Dubs I kill myself
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>>507758450
>i play ssf and i do not like magic finds existence because the game is balance around it's inclusion.
It's obviously not, proved by all the times they have nerfed magic find and endgame loot and had not just improved the loot for everyone else too.
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>>507758290
>complaining about complainers while posting image claiming achievements clout
I assume you can post your lvl 100 hc ssf character?
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so have they fixed the weystone droprates yet
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>>507758861
Noted, I've been stingy with them outside of putting double irons on every weapon

>>507758882
ES/Evasion because I'm monk
I'm not particularly specced into one or the other and I don't have enough Exalteds to be picky 4 total
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>>507758792
>>507758861
yeah use runes but make sure you get the rest of your gear in line so you have a better idea what to fill out for the rest of your resistance

im 67/76/78/42 with my resistance but its all filled and now i have to figure out how to get chaos and fire up which requires me to replace my chest with a double resistance
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>>507758867
Akshually, shitty developera who resent their customers are the bain of the industry. As well as retards on the Internet who have no idea what they are talking about.
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>>507758456
It's honestly fine to be a suboptimal safe ascendancy but WH really isn't that. Culling strike goes dead on a lot of builds, decimating strike can be turned off by some set ups including most bafflingly, stacking gas grenades while a boss spawns in since there's a chance it'll get damage ticked by the poison clouds and you never get decimating strike off. Sorcery ward has a lot of rules you need to follow to make it a good defensive node since you need a way to fix your phys if you take it like cloak of flames, but a lot of options actually fuck it up. If you take say, increased evasion after a dodge roll or scavenged plating, your armor/ev value changing will actually reset the countdown on it and potentially reduce the uptime of the node.

It's not the worst ascendancy but no one should be playing it if they have another option.
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>>507758461
ha yeah
she's much more respectful to the sorceress
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>>507758450
SSF has never been balanced around MF, the fuck are you going on about.

The few times it has significantly affected SSF it trivialized SSF play, like Quin in affliction being able to run a T0 unique build to clear all ubers on hcssf.
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finished t15... now what..?
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>>507759339
Same when they just straight up give you loot like in Settlers, which also demolished SSF balance.
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>>507759274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAoOHe5dbjA
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>>507759006
i posted a factual statement back up by empirical data.
you kind of proved my point thougheverbeit.
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>>507759394
you're done. you can uninstall now
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>>507759394
you hunt for Ash or reroll
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>the most fun ssf leagues were actually le bad
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>>507758456
damn i feel stupid for going gemling when i wanted to just nade shit.
when in fact the class/ascendency is meant for end game whales with a lot of money to buy top gear which will be impossible now
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>>507758861
The fear of using runes is not running out of runes but putting a rune on a piece that might have a better use for a rune after your next gear upgrade. This shit needs to be replacable so that runes aren't one and done, give them market value for people who're going to be cycling through them and let us fucking fix resistances without replacing our entire gear loadout.
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>>507758586
dont use logic or facts with magic find haters, they can't comprehend it
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>>507758586

>Literally untrue, rarity doesn't even affect breach fragments, which are one of the best sources of income during mapping. 100 IIR runnin a deli stacked breach map with high rolls > 500 IIR farming basic t15's.

It was a slight hyperbole but, pretty sure you do everything at ML 78 because thats where logbooks drop/splinters drop etc. Pre sure 82 is the highest.

>Even fubgun literally states he feels significant diminishing returns from going past 200%.

See theres contradictary information about IIR (which even ziz mentioned i believe in the interview). I havent played heavily with the numbers yet, and really i cant think of anything more boring. Problem with ascertaining the value of rarity is you can low and high roll, which if you remember the slippery jim video kinda highlights that (convincing enough GGG had to check)
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>>507759487
>doesnt realize he is subject to the same criticism under his own logic
you're just another shitter until proven otherwise
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>>507749898
any minion build, that's genuinely about it. I'd expect more with Templar release but poo2's ally tag nerf is clearly intended to nerf group play
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act 2 end boss basically cured me of hc
>random sand attack
>skills me in 2 seconds
>seems unavoidable unless you have prior knowledge
>go fight him 2nd time in sc to try and figure out how to avoid the sand attack
>he doesnt do it, kill him first try
fucking stupid game for HC if random bullshit you need prior knowledge about can basically 1 shot you. I may as well play softcore if i need to read wiki before each boss to see if there is random bullshit that can kill me with no warning or intuitive counter play.
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>>507755418
wtf this looks better than my nigger stampede avatar of fire nigger who refuses to oneshot bosses even with 5x magnitude of ailments/ignite
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>>507759540
I picked gemling cause I wanted to do cast on shock with crossbows but then they nerfed that into the ground lol lmao
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>>507759693
>he didn't pausecore

ngmi (you didh't make it)
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how much evasion do enemies usually have?

because I have 100% estimated main hand chance to hit but it feels more like 80%
thinking about taking resolute technique
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>>507759693
>blind hc
you are a desperate clout chaser and a wannabe
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I stopped using MF because I keep running out of transmute orbs
I have hundreds of augments but like 17 transmutes

fuck mf
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>>507749898
Only minions right now and even then it comes with the caveat that your friends will have to put up with your fucking skeletons all over the screen. There should be more later because nodes exist on the tree for support builds that don't exist yet.

Honestly, you might be able to pull something off if you're creating right now by running Gemling and going into allies and ballista nodes...
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>>507759540
>>507759732
Kinda funny how there's a class that's just completely gimped if you don't whale hard

Or is utterly useless if you happen to playSSF
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Magic find isn't even a problem, the problem is builds are too fast and zoomy right now.

There is no reason to make your character stronger when fubguns pure rarity char does max difficulty arbiter in 6 seconds, and his double herald conversion explodes the screen with no other extra damage.

Yes its magic find meta right now, because there is literally 0 reason to make characters stronger when pure magic find characters are still instant phasing pinnacles and 1 button clearing screens.

Nobody is fucking running MF mapping with no resists or 2k max hit. Its a luxury stat past 100 because there is nothing else to add to a build to make it faster.

Nobody is gonna fucking run 0 ms boots or greeds embrace for MF, until shit like that starts happening its not an issue.
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>>507759665
>i don't like the message so i will attack the messenger
i have nothing to prove. i stated a fact. if would you like to rebuke that fact, you can try.
you will fail.
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doesnt rarity being easier to fit on gear make it easier for everyone to use it, you really don't have to sacrifice much to have a little rarity so whats the problem
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>>507759816
Why does hc make you so insecure?
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>>507759927
>There is no reason to make your character stronger when fubguns pure rarity char does...
what kind of logic is this?
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Have they stated what changed or why they changed their map generation?
I'm just doing a HCSSF run in Settlers right now and man the maps both campaign and end game feel so much better due to not being endless corridors. I know it's a common complaint but I don't understand why they moved away from bigger spaces to narrow hallways and streets.
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>>507759896
Gemling is still good without whale builds, it's just that it scales way better with the uber expensive uniques compared to everyone else.
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>>507759972
yep pretty much but that mind breaks anti-mf losers for some reason
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>>507759729
scaling damage with magnitude seems really weak currently, it seems like you can get way more damage just by making the ignite hit bigger
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>>507759693
I knew about the safe spot from browsing this thread, but it really feels like a cheap and unfun trick. Some other bosses have similar gotchas, GGG really likes the idea of one shotting you on your first try.
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>>507759972
only on certain classes (stormweaver) but on other classes like Warrior, there are certain stats that are essential (apart from the resists)
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>>507760128
>Have they stated what changed or why they changed their map generation?
idk man maybe because it's a new game and they practically reworked the engine to make this game work so a lot of things are done from scratch and need testing like the early access entails
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>>507760117
I can 1 shot the boss, do I add IIR or more damage?
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>>507760024
you got owned by jamanra bro i'm sorry
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>>507759972
Expensive to get going because people still hump for life/rarity/chaos/res rings which are incredible expensive , despite the massive map resistance nerf making it very easy to do. It's one of those "damage is already done" situations because the resistance nerfs fix in maps came way too late so the opinion is already set
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>>507760226
reminder that those same classes would still be fuck busted if you take away mf , thus proving mf isn't the issue with what everyone is bitching about
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>>507758870
>>507758136
nvm i cheesed him
ran around the center pile or rubble shooting ice walls and he just kept running into them, breaking them and doing himself damage, freezing and slowing down from cold damage
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WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
>WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
>WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
WHERE IS MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING

FUCK OFF JONATHAN
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>>507760226
str and life and regen are the only stats you need for warriors, i would know that was my league start, boneshatter warrior, you can fit in magic find, res is so fucking easy to forgo cause runes exist.
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>>507760131
issue is i shoulda just went like dead eye or something
oopsies. guess i can use more than one of the same gem hehe gemling POWER BABY
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downloading the game RIGHT NOW.

I wanna play some monk ice strikes shit, but... well...
IM GONNAAAA GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMLING
AAAAHGGHH IM GEEEEEEEEM
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>>507759927
Yes, many endgame builds are going to be nerfed into the ground. Two handed mace gets inherent 1.8 AoE damage, and that scales up hard with AoE talents, so you can effectively auto attack the entire screen as warrior. I seriously doubt the devs intend for that
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>>507760410
you can do that with gemling l0l
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>>507760131
what uniques other than howa are "uber" expensive for gemchuds?
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>>507760331
>if two things are bad then only one of those is actually bad
take your mental retardation back to /v/
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>>507760454
Good, it will be fun to find a new build.
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why do I see other peoples characters milling around in towns but not on the battlefield what purpose does this serve
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>>507760298
if you can 1 shot a boss why would fubgun bother playing?
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>>507760351
>tfw no cold damage buffs near crossbowmans starting point
well shit, ice wall is very cheese this fucking sucks that i cant buff it more
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>>507759928
>I dont like the message so i will attack the messenged
Ah, every accusation, an admission of guilt. Are you jewish perchance?
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>>507760595
Because its not a single player game and farming currency to play with t0 unique corruptions offers some gameplay past the first clear
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>>507759693
I'd mock you but she occasionally stops the protection entirely and you still get 2-3 full seconds of complete vulnerability to it so I guess chart that shit up to EA
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>>507760567
>>507760454
What gets nerfed for sure? Sparkchuds will for SURE.
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>>507760663
>phoneposter can't even quote right
/pol/'s not sending their best
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>>507759972
It's not easier for everyone to use it. The balance issue around MF is that certain builds have higher priority on certain prefixes and some have to sacrifice a much more significant amount of damage or survivability in order to enable magic find compared to others.

Rarity competes with other modifiers, so even if the value of economic value of rarity were equal to all other modifiers, and the balance of all builds was equal, the ones who have less of their power budget invested in the competing modifiers become stronger on merit of being able to farm resources faster than characters who need more power budget on the same slots to scale. And there isn't any possible way to fix this while the stat functions as the way it does because this issue still exists even if all other mechanics are perfectly balanced.

The idea that magic find is only an issue because of class imbalance is a complete lie that's obvious to anyone who's thinking about the game in terms of long term league play. Magic find will absolutely destroy build variety in league start like it had for years until it was nerfed last time.
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>>507740970
hey i bought poe2, and honestly the idea of having to start over in a few months\year kinda deflated me
since i dont mind buying it, can i just play poe1 while i wait for poe2 to be out?
i think i can just buy stashes there with the coins and they will move to poe2 as well, no?
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What's a fun build to play the video game Path of exile 2?
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>>507760663
are you mentally ill perchance?
what do i have to do with a collection of data that ggg published?
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2757540
here, go fucking sperg out at Natalia_GGG for posting it.
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Does Hulking form work for movement speed nodes?
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A big problem with PoE 2 is that for some reason people get really jealous of other people
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>>507754997
Trickle down economics doesn't work faggot.
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>>507760856
In theory it would apply to small speed nodes but I don't think there exists a single movement speed node in the entire game it applies to, so no.
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>>507760790
MF now rolls on either suffix or prefix

there now you can stop bitching
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>>507760740
yeah but if fubgun can kill the arbiter in 6 seconds why are you playing?
fr fr ong chat, i don't think this is real.
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>>507760521
thats the joke, I know gemling is better than monk >_>
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>>507760752
Archmage, Pconc (probably just loses the unarmed = bow attack bonus), howa interaction (maybe changing damage formula of flat added), possibly MoM with how popular CI MoM is.

Honestly howa is the worst offender, worse than archmage. Archmage is free OP as shit for every caster, but the problem is howa is now being run on EVERY attack based build, not just attribute stackers. Bow builds are just grabbing howa for added damage without even focusing on int stacking. Its completely oppressing attack based meta.
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>>507760975
Anon, it already does and it makes the problem even worse. Are you seriously arguing for magic find when you don't even know how it works.
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>>507760621
You do realize that all the elemental crossbow skills scale off of physical damage right? You don't need to get cold damage
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>>507760841
You implied that people complaining about certain facets of the game belonged to a specific group that you disliked. A completely unfounded association, and not even a direct attack against their arguments but a character assassination attempt.
>I dont like the message so i will attack the messenger
Fits your accusations perfectly well and makes you just as guilty of contrarian bandwagoning as the people you are supposedly commenting about
Care to tell me how it's not?
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>>507760856
it does
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Hulking form works on my dick lol
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>>507760975
then you would just target having both per piece of gear
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Name a single build that can't run MF without giving up a noticeable amount of power.
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>>507760975
that would be great at all if you have a crafting bench. but you don't so your equipment is most likely "ehh, good enough" or "this has mf but its missing x / the rolls suck).

Stormweaver does not have this problem. Its offense and defence are already built into the tree so its basically just looking for ES and MF in its gear.
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>>507760594
To make peoples 'work' feel validated so they don't correctly think they're playing a single player game.
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>>507761136
it doesnt make anything worse lol, now its an even playign field for everyone

nobody is limited by taking mf gear , not one build in the fucking game is limited

The margins of difficulty are not that tight that magic find is eating up so much power from gear that it invalidates complete classes in this game, everyone acting as such is either a liar or ignorant
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>>507756000
Fuck off with your reddit communist propaganda.
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I know they won't budge on players doing the campaign every season but looking at speedruns of it now, I doubt it will be any faster than 10 hours by even the fastest runners. That is nearly double the time of poe 1 campaign runs. Seems like something they should really address for at least alts
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>>507761446
the build of uninstalling PoE2 and reinstalling grim dawn, project d2, last epoch or even d4
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ci blood mage
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>>507761446
stormweaver. why do you think so many jumped to the bandwagon?>>507760226
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>>507761507
Thanks for the input!
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>>507761473
guess what you can farm so much fucking currency with MF gear that you can do a little extra crafting yourself and get hte perfect gear you want

the game is not bleeding edge difficulty Mythic tier raiding bullshit that every single stat matters lol
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>>507759927

>Magic find isn't even a problem, the problem is builds are too fast and zoomy right now.

Game is too easy yeah, i have no clue why spark made it to poe2 that skill is explicitely either useles or zoomy as all hell.

>Nobody is gonna fucking run 0 ms boots or greeds embrace for MF, until shit like that starts happening its not an issue.

Technically temporalis means you dont need MS on your boots though :^)

Um bro do u wanna reread what you just said btw. Greeds embrace isnt the best MFing chest its actually Morior Invictus which people DO run. You cant sacrifice rarity on boots because rarity is a suffix i believe. So then you must agree then that MFing is an issue by your own definition
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>>507759540
I picked Gemling because I wanted to jack of all trades use weird combinations (dual wielding maces, capable of using int gems, that kind of thing). I didn't expect it to become so gear dependent since gem synergy kinda sucks compared to expensive gear.
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>>507761446
Lightning invoker. MF is one of the reasons it fell off so hard to caster builds despite being a top performer at the start.
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>>507761145
i said the majority of people complaining have no experience with higher tier content, i posted a dataset from ggg that backs that up.
really all there is to it.
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anyone wanna group up and maybe become lifelong friends through multiple games?
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>>507759809
bump
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>>507761626
hahaha this proves my point that mf haters are retarded, you didn't understand what he asked
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>>507761643
Morior doesn't cripple your gameplay, that's the point.

If MF actually starts interfering with fast gameplay then people can start bitching, but if its just being sprinkled onto already instant screen clearing builds whats the issue.

MF being useful is nice right now because its not hurting player power in any noticeable way, as opposed to POE1 where you had to run dogshit uniques in every slot and were entirely reliant on a single expensive unique to allow you to barely clear maps (fulcrum chieftain, HH deadeye).
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WHERE IS IT JONATHAN
HAND IT THE FUCK OVER
NOW
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I think the devs have made a terrible mistake. People can accept things getting faster over time, that's just natural progression. But once you are used to a certain speed it is very psychologically frustrating to go slower. It is going to be much more difficult to create slow content and have the playerbase accept it than if it had started off too slow and they sped it up over time. They handed everyone a ferrari with training wheels (acts 1-3) and soon they are going to take it away and give us go carts. I am not looking forward to how people are going to take that.
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>>507761520
very based.
Currently playing chronicon which has magic find, but it's in a special free stat slot whose only competition is XP find.
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>>507761670
yeah seems like gemling is supposed to just be the fuckin clown but i didn't get that feeling at all when i picked it. i blame the artwork.

even if i managed to get my hands on the staff i might swap over. i already got the stat helmet.

but again i liked the idea of shootin nades but now i see the issues when im entering poe1 mob packs and waiting for detonation is actually pissing me off
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>>507762003
Avoiding that was literally the entire reason for creating PoE2
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>>507760816
>i think i can just buy stashes there with the coins and they will move to poe2 as well,
yes. stashes you buy are shared between both games.
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>>507761446
bloodmage DD cause they are an extremely spirit have build
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>>507761141
i dont read but good thing i ignored the other elements so far, so all in physical then and it just converts it sweet
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>>507761678
Why can't it run MF? 30% on each ring prefix *1.8 from ingenuity, then any rare armour slot can fit it.

The only builds I can think of that wouldn't be able to run a comfortable amount of MF right now assuming high budget is something that would literally require almost all uniques in every slot.
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>>507762003
That's why it's a new game and not a new patch
Either get used to it or don't play it. Temper your expectations and decide whether you like the game as they've presented. Don't be a fag who wants them to go back to a system people have already moved on from just because you don't like change

The logic used there would cripple the entire gaming industry's innovation if applied widespread
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>>507761682
You posted a statistic on the number of people with a certain number of achievements. You posted exactly zero evidence that any number of those people had or had not made any type of complaint in any fashion. Dumb bitch
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>just use mageblood lol
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>>507761989
prelaunch interview time is over
they'll be in silence mode for 2-3 months now, like always, till they prepared a big patch
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>>507759809
Why would she do that?
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When is the new grim dawn expansion dropping? I will just go back to playing runescape until that comes out
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>>507762240
>You posted exactly zero evidence that any number of those people had or had not made any type of complaint in any fashion
nta but where the fuck did you get this from
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>>507762108
Pretty sure bloodmage DD can just pick up the Mahuxotl shield with 3x rarity for mapping.

Its not like DD 1 shotting every boss is going to notice losing a focus/wand slot for dealing with map mobs.
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>>507762281
DON'T CARE I WANT MY AUDIENCE WITH THE KING
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>>507762272
Ingenuity is like 25 divs. I can make 3 divs an hour just from running ultimatums.
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>>507762305
2 weeks
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Give me genderswap MTX right now. I want to play a male Blood Mage
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>>507762324
where did i get what from? That he lacked evidence? His own fucking post
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>>507762187
I want it slow, the point is I loved the acts, but then they gave us zoom zoom slop end game and people are psychologically primed for speed now. If they try to slow everything down a lot of people will freak. I just wish they had been more thoughtful and not put themselves in this situation in the first place.
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>>507762057
pair explo grenades with explosive shot so they go off immediately or dont take the +1 nade perk. also the flashbangs actually do shitloads of damage in the campaign and go off instantly.
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>friend is bored of the game not because he ran out of content, but because he played Conduit Archmage and killed the Arbiter in .2 seconds
When will he learn that he does this shit every league and gets the same result
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>>507761632
>guys, other players producing huge amounts of great items and currency and throwing them around on the trade market is bad for me!
>because uhhhh look how much money a billion dollars is! and i hate rich people irl!
I personally hate that the game is balanced around trade league and high earners. but if you're in trade league and want to trade, it's definitely good for you that other players are productive.
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>>507762589
What he said here >>507758290 was that most of the people bitching would never do the high end shit, not that people doing high end shit never complained
According to the graph he posted that's objectively true
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>>507762057
Got the stat helmet too but when I go and see the prices for shit like Ingenuity, HoWA and Astramentis? Makes me regret choosing this fucking ascendency purely on aesthetic concerns.
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>>507762721
>>guys, other players producing huge amounts of great items and currency and throwing them around on the trade market is bad for me!
???
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>>507762694
>Game is either unfun because your build is ass or its unfun because your build is good
Lmao
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In one league the game is going to be back to zoom oneshot the entire screen meta. we're already like 70% of the way there.
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>>507762676
If that's what you meant, yeah, sure. I agree. The current endgame is dogshit but no one likes it this way after having played through an entirely different experience in the campaign.
They straight-up said they touched nothing after the campaign. So that the beta beta didn't die in 5 days after people clear it, they ported over buggier versions of swarm mechanics from PoE1 without doing anything to them. We're beta testing this but in no way should it be like this on release if they have any design to maintain their vision.
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>>507762240
>GGG is "trying" to balance game, nerfing here and there, and then they add metamorphs that basically one-shot you with 8k EHP, and you can't even dodge it.
>Metamorph league is hard :(
>Metamorph League - the worst POE Hardcore experience in ever.
>These 1 shot non-telegraphed rippy "mechanics" always seem to ruin any enjoyment I try to have in end-game in Path of Exile.
>I can't enjoy this league.
etc
not unique to that league of course, every league, since forever.
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>>507762129
It just has high stat weights on its prefixes, that's literally it. Builds have asymmetrical stat weights on different slots and modifiers even if they're otherwise perfectly balanced and invoker has heavy competition since it wants to scale more stats on prefixes than it even has prefixes before considering magic find. It has two relevant survivability prefixes and then up to four, maybe five relevant damage prefixes it's considering on the ring slot alone.
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>>507762721
That post was talking about IRL trickle-down, not the ingame economy
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there's nothing wrong with magic find
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How many times have you guys gone through campaign?
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>>507762956
Why is this male boy so angry?
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i have 280% rarity and honestly i feel like i cant tell, ive only found 1 divine today? is it overhyped?
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>>507762976
twice. starter was witchhunter, now in cruel act 3 for stormweaver.
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>>507762869
It's pretty easy to find the middleground if you don't just follow all the most bullshit meta streamer shit but also at least pay attention to what people play
I know what's cancer. I just don't pick it. Suddenly I can take a long time to play the game while also not dying on repeat
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>>507756161
it's gender locked ascendancies and start points on passive skill tree
you can be a huntress, witch or sorceress origin and still use big big fucking shield
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>>507762834
dont hit me with the ??? just because you didnt read the thread before replying with stupid commie links.
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>>507763109
can you point me to the grocery stores in poe2 bro
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>>507762898
What? Its not like every other build doesn't want mana/life/es prefixes. Its just that mapping is so fucking easy that giving up 200-400 life/ES/mana is unnoticeable.
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If I take all damage can shock, do I still need shock chance? Where do I get shock chance on a stormweaver?
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>you can only have 1 totem active at a time
>not one dark effigy, one shockwave and one ancestral
>1 total
>need to run overabundance to raise that limit to 2 totems total before unlocking the totem maxes on the passive tree
But why?
I'm running dark effigy + shockwave right now with overabundance, but why put a limit like that on the totems? They aren't that good.
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how much is a 4th ascendancy points carry now?
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made a new char and honestly act 1 is the best part of this game.
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>>507763064
you tell me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juhu0Z8mYtc
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>>507762692
i wear the grief hood so my gas nades detonate without me caring but again you still waiting on initial detonation which is 2 seconds. meantime im rollin around like a fuckin idiot that i took the node near the deadeye tree because of this.
then i watch some stupid shit like galv shards and they just melt things by staring at them while im rollin around on the ground in pigshit
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>>507762976
iv gone through up to around end of act 2 like 6 times because of hardcore.
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>>507763071
Why not just play a balanced arpg that isn't a complete mess, PoE2 will get way better if you wait
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>>507763257
got mine for 1 div. there were also offers for 2 divs
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>>507763257
It just costs 1 trial coin...?
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worth continuing as monk if i hate the bell?
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>>507762694
>>507762869
>>507763071
The solution is so easy. Take the SSF pill already. It makes the game very fulfilling.
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Why is it fully voice acted? Who gives a shit about the story
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>>507763257
you need to find or buy a trial coin and just do it
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>>507763332
i dont wait for detonation cause i put + projectiles on explo shot with 40% more area damage so i can kill tough enemies faster and the nades are just the AoE utility to clear up the big packs of white enemies.
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>>507763361
why not do the trial the boss isnt that hard
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>>507763416
>SSF in a game not balanced around it
Fuck no that's way worse
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>>507763478
shut the fuck up
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>>507763345
This isn't PoE2 exclusive. Every game has some blatant bullshit build compared to everyone else. I just don't pick that because I've played enough games to see what it'll be from a mile away. More importantly, I pick what's fun and make it work. I prefer taking offmeta weaker stuff and making it viable more than I enjoy playing ADHD simulator with the fastest boss killing shit retards thrive for in every single game ever made

>>507763416
I'm doing that right now with the occasionally currency exchange and it's miserable farming the same mechanics for 5 days and no results
I already maxed out Breach though, so there's no point in going back to it
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>>507763494
>>507763370
nah, fuck that
>>507763361
hmm
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>>507763064
i think the biggest problem right now is that there isn't a div/h strat for shitters to follow.
in poe 1 you could placate casuals with essence farming or whatever so they felt like they were getting something, even if it wasn't what the big boys were getting.
look at how happy they were with the beetle, even tho the beetle was easily outclassed by mapping.
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>>507763531
Is what I say when I have to hear the shitty VAs yes
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>>507759809
what was the point of her doing that
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I have a confession. Since EA launched, I've been saying the game is easy, everything is overtuned, and it's simply a skill issue to every post on here. I'm only at around tier 3 maps myself with hundreds of deaths. What are my next steps?
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>>507763271
act 2 bosses are OK for the most part. Hoenstly though if you really minmax your guy they are all too easy outside of random trial and error 1 shot mechanics.
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>>507763509
i mean it works but on controller, the aiming just does whatever the fuck it wants
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>>507762736
>according to the graph he posted that's objectively true
Where in that post does it say that people complaining exclusively come from the group of individuals that didn't have achievements? What correlation between people who make complaints and their number of achievements can you make from that data at all? Exactly 0

Now shut the fuck up
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>>507763634
yea im trying to farm breaches but it takes so long to set up towers and if you die on 1-2 of the maps its just all down the drain, desu the grind is quite grinding my gears tbdesuthougheverbeit
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>>507763634
Ideally they balance everything so it has relatively even levels and you just do what you find fun. Failing that, I hope no one has fun and everything is shit because it's gay as fuck when you're pigeonholed into a single farming method or falling behind.
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Armor is good actually
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>>507763517
i have a spare div and its quite cheap for the effort.
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The difference between a zdps shit build and a good build is incredible.
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>>507763768
its not a zero sum game retard , there is zero scarcity in the loot drops
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>>507763741
>What correlation between people who make complaints and their number of achievements can you make from that data at all?
Are you fucking retarded or 12?
Do you think that when you see something that says "survey says most people think X" do you think they literally asked every single person in the world?
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>>507763509
i wish there was a gem that caused things to detonate on impact like how oil nades work.
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>>507763783
it looks like it has potential if you take all the nodes that are like Gain X for Y % of armor and then stack armor like a fiend but i havent used it at endgame so i can only speculate. I might try and make a meme max armor thorns build.
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>>507763783
shut the fuck up
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>>507763853
There's no scarcity because we have 500% IR you have to contend with. When beetle fucked the economy, item rarity's value wasn't even widely known yet. The div/h shit people hunt for is exactly what kills the fun in the game; they don't suddenly have fun because they found the ideal method, they have fun because they know they won't fall behind. It's the concept of there being something so blatantly optimal that kills enjoyment. Not the other way around.
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>>507763184
Stat weights will be different between builds no matter how well balanced the builds are between each other. If we assume two builds are otherwise perfectly equal in speed, clear, survivability and bossing, the one who loses less stat weight from switching to magic find becomes stronger for progression. If we represent this by math, let's say that between the two classes, their three best prefixes are weighted at 33/33/33 and 45/45/10, then the second example benefits much more by accessing magic find on those slots.

Even if we assume it's a minor problem that doesn't hurt much, it's just demonstrably unhealthy for the game. The burden of proof shouldn't be on people who dislike magic find, no one who defends it has ever made any argument at all for keeping it and keeps deflecting the issue off.

If it's a minor issue then it's whatever but it's still an issue. And in the worst case scenario if it turns out to be a major issue in practice, we'll be seeing fucked up league start stats where tons of people are rolling the strongest MF starters in order to fund their actual builds later.
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>>507763412
You WILL ring ze bell.
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>>507763826
This is ultimately the fundamental problem and it's significant. It's particularly significant because GGG obviously wanted a more 'curated' experience this time but your experience is bad. In Poe1 you can just brute force your shit build and make it but you can't do that in Poe2 so you just end up getting chewed up.
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Delete trade and design the game around SSF, this makes the game better for everyone
>But muh chink bots and RWT economy!
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>play co-op
>one shotting slams every other pack
Rarity or not this shit isn't very fun
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>>507762330
You want the wand and a scepter otherwise you prob need some pretty cracked spirit rolls on gear

>>507761929

Unfortunately, you would never runs greeds embrace because a better option on an objective level. The issue with MF, its an issue in PoE1 and its an issue in PoE2. If MF is strong and powerful it should be confined to unique items, if its free and easy it shouldnt be as strong as it is now. Right now it feels like ventors + kalandra ring situation right now and it couldnt be more cringe as a result.

Im pretty sure the end outcome will either be a reversion to PoE1 rarity/removal and we get baseline 100% rarity, or they just lower the efficacy of rarity so that 500% feels like 200%, both outcomes will appease the community and i think both outcomes are better than what we have currently. That being said i think more juicing methods would also be appreciated by the community. Suprised wildwoods isnt in the game as a full mech

Also even if you dont wanna map, you need a full rarity set for the gamba vendor which is hilarious it even works like that.
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Bring back Blight
Bring back Delve
Let me slap a blighted modifier on my maps like Delirium
Change the scaling and stat arrays of the mobs in said map to be balanced for tower defense
Let me set up my Blight towers in the Delve mines

Your game will succeed if you do this Jonathan. Thank you
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>>507763783
It really is. Can't stand these kripp sheep and the toxicity kripp brings to the entire community.
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>>507764251
everyone knows this is true but they will never do it, despite GGG themselves always complaining about trade
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its fun knowing my 69% MF with decent resistance on tier 5 maps sometimes nets me 5 exalts because this feels much better but then i remember how much farther behind i am compared to the fat fucks farming this on better characters

but it does please my dopamine receptors
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>>507764302
>if its free and easy it shouldnt be as strong as it is now.
if it's free and easy, what is the problem?
is there an actual argument against magic find that isn't
>i don't like that someone else has better stuff than me
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>>507764539
do raritylets really get 5 exalts per map? I'm getting 5 from every rare
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>>507764027
Fuck you're so fucking retarded it hurts.
1. Beetle did nothing to the economy lmao. Everything would be the same now without that ever being a thing.
2. People knew about rarity during the beetle times. There were countless posts talking about running it in full rarity gear.
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>>507764680
hey i mean im ssf so it feels good. it just feels a lot fuckin better not having any.
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>>507764379
>go back to poe1
>do a blight map
>dopamine rush from the lootsplosion at the end
nothing will beat this
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>>507763634
I think thats all because theres no real atlas passives, and not alot of league mechs that can meaningfully affect your gear in this post slamming world
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>>507764379
Blight will never come back to poe 2. Jonathan's body language when DM asked about it said fuck blight it's not happening.
Delve is already in the game as the atlas. It's not coming back in its original form.
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whats the magic find sorceress of the game?
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>>507764137
My defense of magic find is that it provides a good chase statistic that doesn't hurt clear speed.

Rich should always get richer, that is and always will be the case no matter what happens with MF, but as it is now I don't have to make a fulcrum chieftain to AFK simulacrums on my side monitor while I map. Instead I can sprinkle some MF on my gear and feel better.

Currently we do NOT sacrifice map clear/difficulty for valuable MF, which is a good thing. Given infinite divines, every build can grab a shitton of MF and still instant clear maps, making it a good chase stat.

Gearing should not be easy to BIS every slot, and MF is the least offensive version. Would people prefer if instead of MF there was another resistance, death resistance, which you needed 100% to avoid instantly dying when zoning into a high difficulty map? Because if they remove MF on gear the devs need to add another useful stat to replace it.
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>>507764686
>Beetle did nothing to the economy
>literally the day the video came out the price of Div went up tenfold
>Beetle was nerfed 2 days after
Kill yourself you pseud faggot. You're larping like you know economics through what's current a lootbomb or starve simulator.
People knew about rarity during beetle. It wasn't widely known. I chose my wording carefully because I knew you were a strawmanning faggot looking to latch onto someone to make up for your dogshit knowledge.

Beetle fucked the economy to the point the devs nerfed it immediately. I can guarantee you don't know nearly as much as the cunts who literally have the numbers. Fuck off retard.
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>>507764686
>beetle did nothing to the economy

lmao. fucking proof nigger. even Ziz faggot was farming that shit to show how easy and profitable it is.
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>>507764903
Then Jonathan will be fired and a Tencent chink meleechad blight-enjoying miner will take over
When I said the game would succeed if they added those things, I didn't mean on a social level. I meant I would be this game's Robin Hood, obliterating saudis and funneling their money into PoE2's budget. Now I will spend that time giving Jonathan kidney stones if he doesn't give me Blight and Delve. This is not a negotiation.
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>single handedly fixes all the problems with arpgs
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>>507764686
>beetle gets farmed
>economy inflates
>beetle gets nerfed
>economy deflates for a day and then becomes stable
??????
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>>507764302
We already have insane juicing. Barely under affliction juicing desu.

A stacked tower cluster hitting multibreach with a 4 quant/rare/raremob prefix set and 3x deli oils will literally produce more valuable loot than 6 portals can even haul out of the map.
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>>507763872
Again, i'll ask you, what part of that data include information about complaints in any capacity?
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I still haven't made it out of act 1
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>>507765104
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>>507764686
>Beetle did nothing to the economy lmao
theres no way you actually believe this
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>>507765171
A simple "yes" would have sufficed.
https://www.statisticshowto.com/statistics-basics/
Hope this helps!
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>>507765045
It didn't fuck up trade like so many claim. This is just a skill issue. Wait until next reset and a week in everyone will be bitching stuff is so expensive yet again. Same as every fucking league even in poe 1 since the beginning. Baddies always want someone to blame instead of themselves.
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>>507764302
Why do you need the wand for mapping? 50% is fine considering a single DD clears the screen and you can cast on corpses while mapping, not just your summons.
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What is a fun leveling build
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Now that Power Siphon is shit I hope at least Kinetic Blast makes it into PoE 2 eventually.
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>>507765104
This game is so fucking bad besides a few good ideas. Beong unityslop doesn't help its case.
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Beetle was charity, for all the poors and weak builds being able to farm up currency to buy into strong builds.

Now we are in the 1%er stage, where BIS players have started stacking MF on top of their 200div builds. Poors already got charity with beetle, they shouldn't get anymore.
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>>507765241
It didn't. Any exalts farmed from it were already consumed. The only thing it did was make the start of maps easier for people in SSF abusing it. You just want anyone else to blame but yourself for not being able to produce currency to buy your way to success. You probably go straight to RMT.
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>>507761765
cute post
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>>507748049
At the very least, they need to:
- make armor not such ass (worthless against anything but small Physical Hits)
- remove animation lock (why do melee moves entirely root you in place when enemies are designed with the assumption that you can keep moving!?)

Other required changes are more complicated to address, like how actively blocking becomes mostly worthless by act 3 due to how numerous and lightning-fast enemies are
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Jonathan you will give me my Audience with the King on my next Ritual map. I'm not joking. You will give it to me. I will pretzel you if you do not.
>b-but my christmas b-br--
I will insert coal into your prostate.
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>>507765646
>It didn't. Any exalts farmed from it were already consumed
lol
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>>507765290
i accept your concession
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>>507765739
Seethe. You sound like a typical reddit commie who wants everything handed to them.
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>>507765646
Mr autismo economist strikes again, knowing exactly what people did with their currency and conveniently ignoring everything skyrocketing and dropping based on the beetle status.
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>>507765730
I havent gotten an audience in 300 rituals bro...Im growing weak...
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>>507762284
>>507763650
why wouldn't she do that? do you guys not do that ffs
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>>507765875
Holy shit you're retarded. It's going to be so great and entertaining seeing you whine about all the exact same things with the economy after the next reset.
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so is zarokh impossible without a movement skill
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I like diablo 4 because it's balanced around SSF instead of trade
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I'm solely pricing all good gear in 50 div increments just to fuck all the slow cucks that refuse to get MF gear and can't afford my scraps
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>>507765998
>I alone am he who dictates money
Okay retard
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>>507766001
No, but you should offhand blink just in case you get really bad rng.

No movement skill and bad RNG means you better have the 40% movespeed buff from merchant.
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>>507740970
this but Druid
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>>507765171
can't you just extrapolate the data you have at hand?
the majority of players don't do high tier content, that is a fact.
it's like necropolis league, countless people complained about the balance of meatsack farming, but according to ggg a few hundred people actually did the farm.
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>>507766050
nta but that's me and he's right
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>>507765908
Don't worry bro, our next maps will both have 3 Audiences or this will be Jonathan
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>>507766049
I can smell the poor on you retard, nobody is paying 50 div for rares outside of near mirror tier weapons considering temporalis is 200 div.
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>>507764027
>There's no scarcity because we have 500% IR you have to contend with. When beetle fucked the economy, item rarity's value wasn't even widely known yet.

this hurts to read. The beetle did not fuck the economy at all, and it was less exalts/h than just fucking mapping. The value of increased rarity was also widely known at this point, most streamers such as darkee was telling people about the 100% rarity breakpoint like day 2.

>>507764642
>if it's free and easy, what is the problem?

can you not read the next 3 words? genuine reading comprehension issue. Im saying that ****its power is disproportionately powerful compared to pretty much every other affix on gear except MAYBE movespeed**** When bisco collar got added it was THE item to run if you remember. It pretty much invalidated any farming/grinding you were doing without it on. Now the game will slowly get balanced around MF prices, and prices people out and lowers the overall quality of the game, for many many people. Rarity will be getting nerfed, its not a matter of IF its a matter of WHEN and how MUCH, so i dont get why people are trying to defend the current design of MF

>>i don't like that someone else has better stuff than me
My character personally is actually incredibly strong i have like 200divs.
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>>507766071
i saw like 7 merchants or something and no movespeeds offered then they spawned in opposite corners. his health is extremely high too compared to everything else. gay boss
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>>507766243
my private discord of all the high rollers are starting to do the same too

hope you have temporalis because its not going cheaper than 1500 div starting tomorrow
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>>507760212
i have fire dmg on rings already im not sure what else can i really do, swap to +6 dual wield maces with some phys, i guess ele dmg prefix on them would make some difference but this shit is expensive
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>>507766103
>the majority of players don't do high tier content
okay and?
Do the majority of players post on reddit? Do the majority of players make complaints? Which players make complaints? If you are just making inferences here it is just as likely that try hard sweaty retards are being the most vocal on forums. Casuals gamer dads probably give zero fucks and don't even know what posting on the official forums or the reddit site are.
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BURN OPRESSOOORS
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>>507766378
lmao go for it retardbro, I'm the one farming double relics off zarokh so any inflation to it just lines my pockets
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how much damage does burning patches in maps do
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>>507766292
Once again
>beetle talked about
>divs go to from 8 to 160
>divs nerfed
>divs half in price and keep going down
There's a correlation but you're apparently too wise to see it past your failing grades and toddler portfolio. Surely GGG just killed the beetle faster than they ever killed anything else in the history of PoE because it did nothing at all. Surely.
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>>507766443
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proportion
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>>507765336
Fair enough
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manifesto from GGG inc stating they are done dealing with trade autists and now the game is built around ssf, all becomes right in the world.
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>>507766292
MF costs me almost nothing besides divs. Shitty uniques that offer nothing but rarity is bad, but when you can have basically BIS gear that also happens to have rarity? That's fucking great for the game.

People getting priced out is literally just how the game goes, no matter what ever happens, nolifing early always wins.

Do you also think its bad that people who played 100 hours in the first week managed to stockpile 100 divs at 3ex per before beetleflation?
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>>507764903
I personally believe it will come back as a league for the cheap nostalgia pop it will get. We already have blighted druids and monsters in the game, so them bringing it back in some form even if not a 1 for 1 version isn't out of the question.
I'm easy to please but seeing a league announcement be a blighted mushroom that catches fire while we here Sister Cassia sing "and the unrighteous were burned to ash" would hype me up, only 2nd to what "ready exile" beastiary 2.0 will.
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>>507766524
It does a decent amount but the more annoying thing is constantly keeping you from regening ES and doing more than you'd expect it to do with capped fire res
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>>507766524
watch your hp and count it
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Bros I recently learned because that chocolate gives me hardcore constipation for multiple days straight and I can no longer eat the food people get me for Christmas bros please
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>tired of all these spiders
>look around the elemental tree for fire
>find the flamethrower in incinerate
>roll a pathfinder for movement speed while channeling
>use the support for more movement speed while channeling
>suddenly poe 2 became a twin stick run & gun
I kind of love it
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>>507766719
its like nobody has played a poe league before lol

which now that i think about it is probably why everyone is bitching, its all people new to poe and dont understand what the fuck is going on and are scapegoating magic find
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>>507766808
>>507766751
I mean is there a certain hp/s regen I need to outdo it at 75 fire res? or is it a % of my health per second?
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I am not using item find.
I am accumulating good karma.
When Buddha resets the economy I will be unaffected. He will personally escort me.
Prepare yourselves you heathens.
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>>507766551
prove your statement and stop referring to retarded shit. There's no data on the proportionality of people making complaints and their achievements in poe. Your shits getting old
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>>507766719
there is no such then as getting priced out when you can simply just farm essences and make as much div as you want with little to no effort in poe1.
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what do i play that involves spraying electricity out and has a mana shield?
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Grim Dawn: Fangs of Asterkarn won...
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i'm still getting the full system freeze on loading screen like once a week
shit fuckin' SUCKS
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>>507767140
ball lightning + lightning warp + CoS
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>>507767109
same thing except stack mf and do maps and get shit ton of exalts
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>>507767086
this is the last (You) you're getting from me, shitpostGPT
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>>507767198
Same thing in poe2 with ultimatum, 0 gear requirements, 0 cost of entry, consistent high profits.
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This game sucks ASS
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>>507766528
Correlation does not imply causation.
retard
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>do any other League mechanic as part of Ritual maps
>get their tablets, sometimes multiple, every time
>do 50 ritual maps
>no tablets, no Audiences, no bitches, no desire to live
I USED TO JUICE 30K RITUAL MAPS BEFORE. I AM BEYOND THIS
JONATHAN RIGHT NOW GIVE ME MY SHIT
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>>507767189
still chugging along with multiple crashes a day, sometimes several in a row. at least i got it to where it doesn't lock up my whole computer. i don't think we're ever getting a fix. this issue was supposedly happening with poe 1 too.
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>>507766292
>its power is disproportionately powerful compared to pretty much every other affix on gear except MAYBE movespeed
thats not true tho.
is it more powerful than str/int/dex? not if you need that shit to equip gear and gems.
is it more powerful than resists? no.
more powerful than life? no.
more powerful than light radius? probably.
no one is just picking up items and equipping them JUST because they have rarity.
assuming a 1h and off hand, a build has 60 affixes across their gear, 5 or 6 affixes for 80-100% rarity isn't the end of the world.
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>>507767439
never happened to me in years of poe1 so i'm pissy
crashing every day, now that would really set my shit off
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What happened to this place? It's getting as bad as r*ddit now.
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>>507767452
it's definitely more powerful than resists cause resists are plentiful
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>>507767372
It provides more evidence than your slothful inductions and fallacy-fallcies you fucking faggot. Provide the slightest fucking bit of iota of proof for literally anything you're saying, because you're surely not just basing your complete disregard for every change in the economy thus far out of pure belief and pulled-up bootstraps, right?
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>>507767540
Ok try mapping with one of your ele resists at 0 and see how it goes.
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wowza that looks like a party
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>>507767189
>>507767439
I read a post a while ago saying a bad hdmi/dp cable was causing it for them.
Otherwise, check the windows event monitor thing and see what errors are being throwing and if it relates to a piece of hardware.
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>>507766528
>There's a correlation

Yes that doesnt mean causation. Your the one claiming it was a causation.

> Surely GGG just killed the beetle faster than they ever killed anything else in the history of PoE because it did nothing at all. Surely.

GGG killed it at a pretty standard speed for GGG, why are you acting like this wasnt like 1/3rd the currency obtained by doing a single map?

>>507766719
>Do you also think its bad that people who played 100 hours in the first week managed to stockpile 100 divs at 3ex per before beetleflation?

Beetleflation isnt real if you think its real it tells me you werent mapping t15s at that time. The DIV inflation is because thats how it always goes, it has always and will always go up as time goes on as its the rarer rock, it has happened every single poe league since the beginning of fucking time.

>MF costs me almost nothing besides divs. Shitty uniques that offer nothing but rarity is bad, but when you can have basically BIS gear that also happens to have rarity? That's fucking great for the game.

Well apparently GGG doesnt agree with you cause they have every single instance nerfed free rarity, in the past.

>People getting priced out is literally just how the game goes, no matter what ever happens, nolifing early always wins.

Yes no shit, but also people dont get hardcore priced out like they do right now, since there arent unique niches in the game right now. In the past you could do sanctum for divs, you could do utlimatum for catas, you could do essence for essences, you could be a humble harvest farmer. These items always retain value because they are used on high level items. This isnt the case in fact outside of extremely lucky item drops, they dont have these exclusive niches in the current economy. Yes you could do 1000 rituals but you know who else is doing 10000 rituals? Everyone.
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>>507767635
what is this strawman that literally does not happen, even the most twinked out quanter in poe1 had capped res, you have so many avenues of getting and overcapping res in this game that you have extra to spare to get some rarity, which makes rarity the more desirable/powerful stat
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>>507767575
You have zero proof. A fucking rare farm isn't doing shit. I get more exalts/hour just running maps. All I see is the cries of a bad player who can't get anywhere because he was priced out of everything. Your brain got totally fucked in trade league.
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>>507767818
so it's the most powerful and desired stat... after every other stat that matters.
>once you get your life, mana, res, es and stats sorted, magic find is op!
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>>507767808
>retard speaks
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>>507767818
Ok but in POE2 you can actually fill every slot with rarity and make it impossible to cap resists.
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>>507767947
The proof is that GGG did the fastest nerf to anything they've done in their entire history to the beetle lmao. I'm sure they did that for no reason, and the economy's massive swing at the exact same time had nothing to do with it.
Fuck off you absolute mong.
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>>507767965
yes like in poe1 you handle the defenses first and then you slowly take away some to fit in the mf, thats how magic finding has always worked. you make a build around it.
>>507768041
ok but i never said that so idk what the point of this reply is, only having mf and that being the only stat is not a build that has ever existed in any game ever.
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>>507768226
Retard you are claiming that IIR is more important than every stat except movespeed.

Yet given the choice between 150 IIR and capped res or 600IIR and 0 ele resists I'd go with the first every single time.
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>>507768156
Not him, but they've issued faster nerfs before
Also friendly reminder we'll be seeing an armada of nerfs over the next few months. They've literally said to have fun with the broken mechanics while we can since they'll be nerfing them as they make themselves aware
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>>507768226
>you make a build around it.
after you sort out every other aspect of your build you mean?
you prioritize magic find, the most powerful and desired stat, after almost every other stat.
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>>507767452
>is it more powerful than resists? no.
Then why is this item in the game faggot?
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>>507768156
You're a retard revising history. Ziz was farming that for multiple days on stream and it was STILL working for several days after he stopped. It took them a while to get to it. They nerfed supercharged slam faster than they nerfed the beetle. So, you're flat out wrong. Nice try though.
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I'm beginning to understand why everyone takes CI. The only lethal shit in this game is chaos damage. On deaths are, the dumb blooms from cultist arrows, the volatile plants, the poison pools, the acid spit from snakes and snake people... The only thing off the top of my head that's chunked me like that that isn't chaos is the axe thrower packs through a door.

I have my resists almost capped... Except chaos of course. That's at 20%, so unless I want to lose all my other resists (70 ish) and go all in on chaos for like 50-60%...

They really need to diversify damage in this game, or make it so chaos doesn't do so goddamn much.
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>>507755418
This is what all the warrior whiners are crying about?
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>>507768346
if you had to pick between 2 helmets both with the same mod but one had rarity and a res, and the other had double res, i think most people would take the one with rarity and res
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>>507768475
Not if you needed the res to cap retard
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>>507768372
Because it is in the other game. They just ported it over along with a majority of the other uniques.
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>>507764910
>Currently we do NOT sacrifice map clear/difficulty for valuable MF
What makes you say this? In an ideal world maybe, but affix pressure varies from archetype to archetype pretty dramatically right now. The easiest example here to illustrate is that when you're playing a ranged character, Just Don't Get Hit is a real thing. If you're playing a strength based melee character - where a large portion of the power fantasy is in fact "I don't care if I get hit" - you're necessarily going to have a vastly different affix pressure. The cost for reaching 200% IIR or whatever you would want to use as a benchmark from one to the other is pretty different; for some archetypes, it may simply not be feasible.
That's fine in isolation - but when the ranged character is getting divs while the melee character is getting augs, its a different story entirely.
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>>507768372
literally gggs design philosophy, call it the vision, weight, friction.
in most cases they don't like the player getting something for nothing.
if resists don't matter then what point are you trying to make anyway?
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>>507768429
*xp
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>>507768407
Yep, same in poe 1. Nothing ever kills me in that game except for chaos damage. CI is easy mode. But to be fair, getting 60%+ chaos res in poe 1 also does the trick.
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>>507768541
i think people would simply look to cap that res with a another piece, if you were on ssf sure but you can simply just trade
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>>507768429
>no everlasting gaze
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>>507768556
Buddy the cost for reaching 200IIR is 2 ring prefixes and 1 ring suffix. Even if you somehow needed BOTH life and mana, 1-10 damage added to attacks isn't going to make or break any build in game.
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>>507755418
wtf this looks fun
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>>507766906
>>roll a pathfinder for movement speed while channeling
that actually works? it says skills and incinerate is a spell, i know skill can mean spell sometimes but wasnt sure if it applied. i was thinking of doing just that
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So does Crushing Impact for Titan basically make it twice as easy to get a stun?
once you hit 40% stun, the next hit you do stuns regardless?

So if i was doing 20% stun buildup per hit, instead of 5 hits its taking 3 hits to stun?
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>>507768557
>what point are you trying to make anyway?
That IIR is so powerful that you would give up significant amounts of resists for it. Do you actually have a disability?
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>>507755418
very nice, anon
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>>507768801
Yep, it's pretty rad. You're basically running while channeling.
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>>507768598
Rarity and res are available on every fucking piece you idiot, when you cap one you can seek rarity for the other.

Rarity is not item slot exclusive, its something you pursue after your resists are managed. No I don't want to play a fucking game where IIR doesn't exist and I have 100 overcapped resists doing fucknothing besides making me giga immune to expose/ele weakness.
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>>507768618
I can afford it but I'm playing self imposed SSF.
Used 3 chance orbs.
Also I figured out how to do these breaches. Just prefire sparks. Sorry low IQ.
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>>507767452

Okay so i need to spell this out for you.

>is it more powerful than str/int/dex?

yes, cant believe thats a question you get to choose these stats on your tree so they are easier to get than ever, unless your explicitely a stat stacker you will not have stat req issues

>is it more powerful than resists? no.

yes, its trivial to get the amount of resists you need

>more powerful than life? no.

Yes, in fact life is incredibly explicitely weak right now people build ES + CI so they can more comfortably build more rarity due to less affix pressure.

>a build has 60 affixes across their gear, 5 or 6 affixes for 80-100% rarity isn't the end of the world.

He thinks we are stopping at 100% rarity, its the best stat. Its not like oh get 100% rarity now its GG, you keep going and never stop.

>>507767965

Fulfill basic requirements and now its the best stat wow thats crazy!

>>507768372
Based
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im sharing a thread with people that are unable to cap res and get rarity at the same time even in the game with runes
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>>507768713
I went to go check poe2db because those numbers sound way better than anything I've so far - I hit 107% and I'm actually sacrificing quite a bit for it since unfortunately contrary to your description of how the mechanic ought to work, it is currently mandatory, not an optional goodie for over-performing builds.
Tier 1 on the ring is ~30% max roll on both the prefix and suffix if I'm reading this right. So two rings rolling max T1 prefix and suffix is 60%, so T1 prefix+suffix on both rings would come to only 120%. Am I making a dumb mistake here?
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>>507768860
Not the guy you're jerking off. You do know rarity doesn't scale infinitely, right? It has hard diminishing returns. Anything over 125 is hardly noticeable, and that's obtainable without any sacrifices in your gear
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>>507766109
>gee scoob I sure am glad we're out here and he's in there and we're in here and he's out there and
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>>507768860
you don't 'give up' the res, you 'make it up' elsewhere.
the original design intention of mf according to ggg was gimping your characters ability to do higher tier content while making lower tier content more rewarding.
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>>507768860
Its actually not though, you can get a rare ring with 75 IIR and 2 free prefixes/suffixes.

Nobody would use andivarius over a top tier rare ring except for the fact that its cheaper.
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>>507769013
Ingenuity belt should be a first purchase for basically every build in game.
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>>507760226
If your class has characters in the top 1000 it's viable.
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explain
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>>507769120
Should be or is?
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>>507768943
unironically retarded.
grats.
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>>507768872
but why would you do that? you don't need to get rarity everywhere for it to be impactful, theres no reason to stack rarity on every piece of gear, there is also no reason not to use any at all because forgoing some res won't break your caps cause you should have overcapped res to begin with, meaning rarity is often times more valuable than res.
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I used Neversink's filter on like day 3 and haven't updated since. Which is the best current filter for just "nah hide that shit fuck off"
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Is it ok if i make a meteor sorceress?
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>>507769020
>>507769057
>>507769060
https://youtu.be/AbUs7CzjmRY?si=vUcasDjJMHbT7HfU&t=436

Yeah I'm thinking IIR is the best stat without diminishing returns
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>>507769338
Rarity is more valuable than res when you have capped res yes. Pretty much every fucking stat is more valuable than res after you cap them, and prior to capping res they are the most important stats for every fucking build.

Also check the prices for an all res + max tier ele res breach ring vs the price for a double rarity ring. Turns out res is pretty fucking valuable.
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>>507768561
That boss is bugged.
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>>507769415
wtf I remember watching this nigger back in like abyss league
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>>507769415
does he have aids or something?
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>>507769415
woah a build made specifically for party play, from the top magic finding group in poe 1 and 2.
good job dumb fuck. whats next?
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>>507769415
this just makes me feel bad that I have no friends
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>>507769539
>prior to capping res
if you are playing trade, there is literally no reason to not already have capped res, idk what this post is even trying to say, no one is using rarity during the campaign, we are obviously talking about mapping which you need capped res to even do comfortably that is literally the default, you know like how it's always been in poe? so who the fuck cares about pre capped res.
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>>507769539
>Rarity is more valuable than res when you have capped res yes.
lmao no shit you fucking retard lol
what the fuck?
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>>507763634
>look at how happy they were with the beetle, even tho the beetle was easily outclassed by mapping.
That's kinda cute.
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>>507769738
Okay retard then stop claiming that rarity is more important than res.
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>>507768561
hot tip, dont take that "give bosses mods" keystone, there are too many shitcode interactions and the corrupted infusion/unstable energies nodes are better anyways
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>>507769285
map overlay
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>>507769581
probably. he doesn't even make any of the builds he shows off
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>>507769581
Ugly people should not stream with their camera on.
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Pokemon Pocket gave me 2 high rarity cards in 1 pack
My last 60 Rituals gave me an exalted orb
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>>507769236
Best post in this thread.
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>>507770067
>phoneslop vs pc 4a game
retard
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>>507767439
Switch to Vulcan.
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they finally stopped logging me out of the trade site every 3 minutes
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am i late to the melee mercenary kino and has it been nerfed?
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>>507770138
It's emulatorslop actually
It runs better than most maps
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>>507770030
But when they stream with a fursona avatar you call them tranny.
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>>507770287
The fucking what now
My melee mercenary sucks. Whats the secret tech?
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Does dying in Maps have any intrinsic negative trait outside of wasting your current Waystone? It's not like you get anything for actually clearing the map
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>>507767439
>>507767189
Do you have <= 4gb VRAM? PoE would sometimes nuke my old computer when VRAM got full, so I monitored that shit with MSI afterburner and restarted the game when it got close.
Peak scuff.
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>>507770356
Every time you die in a map you have to make a reddit post complaining about having died in a map
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>>507770332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0YFexBSEg

whatever this is
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>>507770356
-10% current level max XP - you can't delevel.
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>>507770436
>Its quarterstaff again
I sleep. At least its actually melee and not "melee" though.
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>>507770332
howa pillar stat stacker
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is there any actual point in building crit on monk
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>>507770559
yea, i too am bored af of quarter staff cause i already got a monk

a monk that just has hp instead of evade sounds good tho
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>>507741096
sup bro

daily reminder that if you play poe on softcore, you are not playing the real game.

this general used to gatekeep you shitbirds but i see its nothing but softcore players here
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>>507770643
>>507770643
>>507770643
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>>507769936
how the fuck do I get there
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>>507770559
Of course it's Quarterstaff again. It's the exact same thing as the last one because it's entirely dependent on one quarterstaff unique
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>>507764903
just bring back heist.
could care less about blight or harvest
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>no xmas mystery box for logging in
BFR has gone full jew
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>>507770236
i've already tried everything save downgrading OS version or a reformat. i'm not doing that shit because of some fault that isn't mine.
>>507770367
i have 8gb vram, the game runs like a breeze on max settings apart from the crashes.
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>>507770723
No one asked retard
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>>507770780
Switch to DX12.
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Is full recoup chronomancer decent at surviving?
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>>507769539
>all res + max tier ele res breach ring vs the price for a double rarity ring.

Anon did you forget ingenuity exists or something? Rings are the absolute most powerful items for getting any stat. I even had abit of a browse around shopping for rings.
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>>507769236
we need the parrot... we need the toucan
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>>507770651
>Cringfernalist
yikes!
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>>507770356
It wipes the map nodes as well, including aura modifiers from towers. Makes the node dead as fuck so you burn a shit map on it to move passed it to live maps.
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TAB SALE WHEN? AAAAAAAAAHHH



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