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At the Tree Edition
Previous thread: >>520535348

Life is Strange (LiS) is an episodic narrative game from developer Don't Nod (DN). Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Max Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to rewind time.

Life is Strange: Before the Storm (BtS) is an episodic narrative game from developer Deck Nine (D9). A prequel set three years before the events of the first LiS. A troubled, isolated sixteen-year old Chloe Price forms an unlikely friendship with Rachel Amber, a popular girl with her own hidden demons.

Life is Strange 2 (LiS2) is an episodic adventure game developed by DN. The game's plot features brothers Sean and Daniel. Sean must make crucial decisions that will lead to different branches in the storyline, while serving as a surrogate parent for Daniel.

Life is Strange: True Colors (TC) is a narrative game from developer D9. Protagonist Alex Chen is a young woman with the astonishing supernatural power. While Alex’s power will lead to moments of great joy, it also brings her into the orbit of violent anger, world-altering sadness, and irrepressible fear.

Life is Strange: Double Exposure (DE) is an episodic adventure game developed by D9, it is the controversial sequel to LiS (2015). The plot focuses on an older Max Caulfield.

Lost Records: Bloom & Rage (LR) is a game from developers of the original LiS, DN. Some consider it a spiritual successor to Life is Strange.

>Steam:
Life is Strange - http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630
Life is Strange: Before the Storm - http://store.steampowered.com/app/554620
Life is Strange 2 - https://store.steampowered.com/app/532210
Life is Strange: True Colors - http://store.steampowered.com/app/936790
Life is Strange: Double Exposure - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1874000
Lost Records: Bloom & Rage - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1902960
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I love my wife Kat!
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>>520866474
At least all the franchise games are in the OP, but LR isn’t a franchise game, get it out.
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>>520867051
Lets see how many times you'll repeat it this thread.

You have schizophrenia and should kill yourself.
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>>520867051
Gonna tell you the same thing I told the anon who complained I included DE last time I baked, bake yourself next time
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>>520866529
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>520866474
OP why did you remove the part where it says Sean and Daniel are hispanic?
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>>520877986
because pricefield is racist
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>>520877986
>>520878214
It's weird since he bothered to add LiS2 but had to remove that specifically, as if he wanted to erase brown people.
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>>520879081
They’re totally fixated on Hispanic and Indigenous people. Makes you wonder what went down to leave that kind of mark, lol
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>>520877986
just call 'em beaners
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>>520867482
Why do you keep using this word? I don't think it means what you think it means
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>>520879081
Jesus Christ, how do you manage to survive every day while being this deluded?
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>>520888841
GOBLIN!!!!!
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>>520890796
GOBLIN!!!!!!
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What was the last good year of /lisg/? I want to say 2017, though it was pretty slow for a while before the BtS leaks
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>>520891793
2024
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KNEEL BEFORE YOUR QWEEN
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>>520895103
>>520895420
GOBLIN!!!!!!
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>>520866474
Almost great, but I really dont understand why anon insist in including all games like that corporate fanfiction called DE. There's no need to be anal about it
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>>520896065
I vote for excluding DE because it brings nothing of value to the conversation or franchise and is so damaging, that it should be forgotten.
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>>520891793
Weren't people disappointed at BTS though?
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>>520896435
it was a cashgrab with the fanservice episode at the end. a corporate fanfiction basically and, in my opinion, the game that ruined it all. it used the same setting as the first game but the magic was already gone
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>>520891793
Any time before DE was announced.
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>>520897924
What was a shame was how active all of the fan spaces were before DE was published. It was a really active fandom again. And then it just came crashing down, and I kind of think it got killed. Because there is no way people will be back for the sequel.
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>>520897924
I agree that it was underwhelming.
Thumbs up for fleshing out Rachel so that I can understand what the hell was her problem.

But beside that - inconsistencies, not very amusing storyline, terrible antagonists...

I barely made it to the end, even though I am a big fan of the first game.
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>>520899884
It also gave birth to the dumbest part of the fandom. AmberPrice people. Those people do not know how to read
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>>520899884
>I barely made it to the end
i didn't. this and TC are the only two LiS games i have never been able to finish
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>>520900424
What do you mean with them being the dumbest people?
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>>520903235
I think this anon mean people not understanding the subtext and how Rachel manipulates Chloe.
The Tempest scene seems nice and sweet but is it really?
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>>520904225
I guess it is though. Rachel was honest AT THAT POINT.

I am more surprised that people seem to miss the "don't be surprised if one day I'm out of here" scene.
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>>520901457
The gremlin aura is strong with this one
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>>520907106
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>520907116
Might get some considerable traction, moreso if he plays Tape 2 as well
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>>520907116
Lmao. But it's a good sign to have someone like him to give the game a try and boost its visibility
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>>520908323
He might as well, given Tape 2 relases in a few days anyway
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>>520877986
Their race doesn’t really matter desu
>>520896065
>>520896348
Cry about it and bake yourselves next time, they all get discussed here so why not include it in the OP
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>>520909981
>Tape 2 relases in a few days anyway
> managed to get time off during that day
Sweet.
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>>520910508
>cry about it

Lmao, without DE you would have nothing to be edgy about, fuck off to candy crush or something
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>>520910659
LRfags whine when DE is in the OP, LRantis/DEfags when LR is in the OP, at least this way you both get what you want even though you’ll both complain
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>>520911047
Fun fact - I'd like both to be gone from this thread and I don't care if this makes someone sad
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>>520911598
Lost Records stays, regardless of what you think of it
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>>520911598
your absence won't make anyone sad either
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both DE & LR should be in the opening.
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>>520912007
It does. As far as it helps to reduce pricefield content
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>>520912007
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>520911598
Kinda based honestly
>>520912301
But I do agree, they are the most frequently discussed games here I really don’t care if their fans bitch the other shouldn’t be there
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>>520912381
Just because we like Kat and Nora doesn't mean that Pricefield is gone, we will still post stuff if new things are produced.
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>>520867051
>>520896065
>>520896348
Do you retards not have anything better to discuss than the OP? Who gives a fuck what’s in it.
>>520909981
What day does it release?
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>>520915316
Oh yeah sure "who gives a fuck".

Some people should start having some standards, such a foreign concept
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Another proof that people cannot talk about DE without getting angry lol
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>>520917429
That's natural, given how much of a slop the game is
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>>520891793
2015 flood of leaks
love how there was a legit qa tester in the thread and we got to see early alien wheelchair chloe too
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>>520915316
>What day does it release?
April 15
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>>520917429
That's natural, given how deranged cultists are
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>>520918818
You sound like a broken disk. And you can keep calling us cultists as much as you want, but it won't change the reality of DE being a soft reboot cashgrab that failed and flopped.
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>>520915661
>standards
If this general actually had standards regarding games in the OP, only the first one would be in it.
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>>520919128
>You sound like a broken disk.
"Broken record" is the term you are looking for, and yes they do, they're literally insane and repeat the same thing every thread like a bot.
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And that's all the pages she has updated so far, be sure to follow her on her main Shitter and Bluesky accounts for more fluffy, SoL post storm Pricefield
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>>520928616
It could've been like this huh. Oh well, thanks for the storytime anon.
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>>520928201
"Nothing to stay for"

OOF, that must have hurt David
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>>520936458
we could've had open world lis if Baqir wasnt fired
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>>520936458
>open world
kind of, yeah
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>>520936823
I remember a survey where they asked if we were interested in an open world LiS.
Seeing the whole town they made for nothing (for now?) for DE, I wonder what was the plan there.
What a waste.
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>>520937242
I looked out of bounds, that back area's almost finished & they did run out of budget when making the main campus as seen by the never replaced bts statue
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>>520937321
>bts statue
what statue?
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>>520937321
How do they run out of money? You probably know in advance how much you have. So, they just made a bunch of stuff that was never used with no clear plan. Any anon with knows something about making games that can explain that one?
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>>520937660
The usual stuff like salaries, mocap, VAs, unions and outsourcing dries up the well really fast
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>>520938087
I'll bet. Which is why you make a plan, based on your budget
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>>520936458
I love how literally any screenshot from this game sets off a wave of whining over nothing.
What a bunch if cucks this fandom is
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>>520937530
the overlook from bts statue
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>>520937660
dont forget Baqir leaking the maze sequence & outright stating that it never got finished due to tight deadlines & budget

then SE warned his ass resulting in that website's section being nuked (I really hope the maze shows up in DE2 at least if you stir the pot SE)
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>>520938601
>website's section being nuked
I'm sure you have the screenshot
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>>520938253
But do we know how "frivolous" D9 spends their budget? That's another factor; probably blown it out on catering and stuff that makes them a fun studio, that kind of stuff. Don't want to be that guy but maybe consultant studios like sweet baby inc encroaching on their budget, a chunk used to market it at tgs etc.
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>>520938423
this one?
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>>520938601
Oh shit, did they asked him to remove it? Man Square really must have their hands deep into D9's asshole
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>>520939131
He's just making stuff up. Everything Baqir posted is still out there.
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>>520939402
its out there because retarded vinh stans that steal content reposted it, check his website instead of opening your mouth you retard
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>>520939402
Yet during the Adnan's interview he had a hefty NDA and didn't even mention it when asked about the "boss segment". Even so Adnan warned us in the beginning of the interview that he's behind a tight NDA, so it's funny that you think SE doesn't have DE on NDA shackles still.
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>>520938334
You are right. Too bad!
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>>520939974
>>520939402

https://www.baqirshah.com/lisde

Checking up his site and the whole labyrinth section has been fully removed. In that part he mentioned how the budget was tight and he was then laid off afterward. But yes, the Vinh stans have been grateful enough to screenshot his page.

https://www.tumblr.com/mal3nko/774596681226420224/cut-content-from-double-exposure?source=share
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>>520939823
Again, what exactly went missing from there? Screenshot? Photo? Map? Everything’s still there, just like it was

>>520939974
Rregular NDA. He can't say anything about the plot except for pre-approved stuff, and Adnan's an idiot who loves to exaggerate
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>>520941440
Could you show the link for the screenshot? Because on his site, the labirynth boss section was removed and unfortunately isn't accessible with the internet archive
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>>520941440
>Again, what exactly went missing from there?
There was a section on his site showing the cut labirynth section, which has then been deleted from his site, and was supposed to be the "boss section" before he got laid off in 2023.
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>>520941748
In what section of /lisde you think it was?
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>>520939018
I doubt consulting takes that money away, but given what we know of D9 and the specific production of DE (a fucking mess) it's not surprising they wasted a lot of the budget through rewrites and delays.

Pic related, Baqir mentioned to Adnan how he was laid off during paternity leave, and we have confirmation here. I'm curious if more bad anonymous reviews have been added after the December 2024 layoffs as well
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>>520942852
The Chapter 3 section. It had screenshots of early stage build and mentioned how budget, deadlines and his layoff resulted into the section being cut
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>>520943280
sounds just like every workplace i.e. Hell. A real shame the game suffered for it
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>>520941240
Interesting. Maybe it will be relevant for the next game
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>>520939823
>retarded vinh stans
easy there, clown, these people did something really important
>steal content
you mean they saved what was publicly available and had no restrictions on downloading or sharing?
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>>520943521
>The Chapter 3 section
Do you mean /icypond? Because the earliest version of this page available is dated January 15, 2025, and it has the exact same stuff as now

Also, was this screenshot part of that page as well?
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>>520946157
Correct, it was one of the screenshots there
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>>520945897
Vinh fans are thankfully a minority of a minority, but even in rare circumstances they can be useful.

>>520944467
It likely won't. Baqir had the talent of making decent level designs and telling Stauder and co. to put LiS1 references, or how to make the scene more interesting when it wasn't, but since he was laid off all that talent is gone and it shows.
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>>520946410
Ok, I'll let you know if I find the rest
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You know what would be useful? If someone had saved that screenshot in which Cada bragged about talking to Aysha, and she gleefully admitted about DE part 2. I'm sure I can trace it back, but the archives stopped working for some reason
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>>520941240
where's that even? that road's so weird
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>>520946927
>It likely won't. Baqir had the talent of making decent level designs and telling Stauder and co. to put LiS1 references, or how to make the scene more interesting when it wasn't, but since he was laid off all that talent is gone and it shows.

he didn't say he was laidoff, he says he went on a paternal leave & never got back to d9 during the Adnan interview, it's odd, literally he rolls his eyes when d9 is mentioned & throws several sighs.....
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>>520946157
it wasnt /icypond it was /lisde at last section where it had the most details:
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>>520950904
How did you managed to retrieve it?
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>>520951004
I archived it myself when it appeared back then
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>>520951092
Great work anon, hope you have more archived stuff to show, like >>520948261 or even the Bluesky posts made by Aysha
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>>520951410
>https://youtu.be/zTAbJggAmEQ
desu there isn't much, here's an earlier unfinished version of ep2 cutscene (look how bad the coat clips & how the lighting is swapped between dead world/alive world), DE's still in hotwaters as SE likes to put it which is sad, wish we would know wtf the train & Vinh killer was about
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>>520950904
see, sometimes even a pricefield idiot can be useful
gotta believe in people
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>>520951671
one day we will see all the DE meme gifs SE forced D9 to make (this is where the budget went btw)
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>>520952653
I hate Neil Cuckmann for starting this entire vidya meme gifs trend.
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>>520952653
Didn't even know this shit existed in the first place, why is it popping out at this time?
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>>520952653
All these gifs waiting to celebrate the 1M sales.
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>>520952653
Michel, I still hope you are stalking the thread and you will convince the team to make meme gifs with GOBLIN!!!!! as well.
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>>520953643
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>520953643
Did they fix Kat holding the knife backwards yet? It bothered me a ton in this scene.
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Still thinking about that time the psycho katfag wrote me poetry. Dude was unraveling. I hope he pulled himself together.
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>>520953408
Its not a bad idea, but they work mostly with Sony properties like TloU and God of War, specifically because those last two have good stories and memorable enough characters that can be enjoyed by the community. Square trying to ape them doesn't work mostly because DE is crap, the characters are lacking and it only highlights how unoriginal and desperate they are to attract a new rebooted fanbase.

>>520953806
Kek. Wonder how many of those they made, because this is the first time in all the time DE was relased I was made aware of their existance.
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>>520958950
>Dude was unraveling
Kek, yet you can't get over it. Would you like me to write you some more pussy?
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whether its canon or not

max kissing warren is clearly illegal and pedophilia as she is 18 and he is 16
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>>520962587
I didn't read them before, and I won't read them again. But if you think writing more will prove how non-crazed you are, then be my guess.
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>>520963627
Unraveled by Le Détaché

This stranger once wrote me poetry
And no one in my life has ever cared so much for me
I pretend it didn't get to me
But here I am, thinking about it, days later

I like to pretend I'm over it
And that the people that make fun of me are at wits end
But in reality I'm obsessed with it
And I've got no friend, or love, on which I can depend

Unraveling, yes they're unraveling
They're unhinged, deranged, insane
It's not my sanity that is fraying
It's theirs
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Lazy. Chat GPT tier work.
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>>520963360
arrest that bitch
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>>520963798
Everyone's a critic, lets see your 5 minute poetry wise guy.
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>>520963839
Since when is kissing sex
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>>520963912
Everything I write is already poetry. It all goes over your head.
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>>520959482
Square is always late following trends and failing at it.
They need a good shakeup, particularly in London.
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>>520964091
Kek, this fart huffer thinks he's smart and yet he's arguing with people he thinks are crazy on /vg/.

Get your head checked retard.
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>>520963986
if a 21 year old kissed an 8 year old youd have a problem with it, meaning kissing is still bad
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>>520964452
There is a difference between that and a 16 and 18 year old
>also how is warren 16 if he's in max's grade
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>>520964452
Speak for yourself

>>520964563
Perhaps he skipped a grade, but anyway, Romeo and Juliet laws exist for a reason and are logical.
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>>520964563
the point is not the ages, the point is you saying kissing is not sexual
clearly kissing can be sexual
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>>520964256
You're the one writing poetry.
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>>520964791
>kissing can be sexual
CAN be, but not always is, would you object to a mom kissing her eight year old? There are chaste kisses, and it's perfectly normal in a lot of places.
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>>520964924
Yes, I like writing poetry moron. If you're trying to imply that poetry is only for fart huffers then you're just an uncultured brainlet.
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>>520965134
>Poetry is "culture"
LMAO. Get real. You're just talking weirdly.
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Hello is this the circus?
I'd like to report some complete tomfoolery on this 4chan thread call /lisg/.
(I'm still lernding blender)
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>>520964959
depends on where she kissed her, on the mouth? thats fucked up
even tom brady kissed his son on the lips and it was bad
kissing on the cheek or forehead or anywhere else that isnt your genitals? mostly fine
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>>520965518
Next you'll tell me you dislike music too (lyrics are poetry). You're embarrassing yourself, you're an uncultured fucking monkey. You're a subhuman, wouldn't surprise me if you weren't human at all.

You should kill yourself (;
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>>520965606
>on the mouth? thats fucked up
Repressed American line of thought.
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>>520965584
GOBLIN!!!!!
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>>520965821
I've never been good at following lyrics, honestly. I just vibe with the tone of their voices. Maybe if they say something catchy, I'll latch onto it. But I'm not taking song lyrics to heart. What does a psychopath even feel from lyrics anyway? Words are the most meaningless method at conveying feelings. Information? Certainly. But a feeling? Words are not the vehicle for that.
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>>520966195
>Words are the most meaningless method at conveying feelings.
Damn, you're a literal autistic retard aren't you?

You should kill yourself.
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>>520966406
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>>520966379
Anyone can say they feel a way. That doesn't make it true or genuine.
I love you.
See?
Meaningless. You prove with every post that everything you say is meaningless.
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>>520964563
According to D9, he was also in Chloe's class photograph in 2010.
Stauder would be proud at how D9 make canon flexible.
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>>520966781
>You prove with every post that everything you say is meaningless.
Good, now stop replying to me. I hate to use such a boring buzzword, but you've proven yourself to be an NPC, a nonhuman entity. I've no respect for you and I hope that death finds you quickly if you continue to refuse to do the world a favour by killing yourself.

Si habes animam, misereatur tui deus.
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>>520967261
>Si habes animam, misereatur tui deus.
I'm not translating that, LOL.

You stop replying to me. You replied to me first. You didn't have to. And you can stop at any time.
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>>520967495
You have schizophrenia and should kill yourself.
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>>520967049
Now that I think about it, DE is like a compilation of all the flaws they had between BtS and True Colors, but significantly worse.
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>>520967549
You write poetry.
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>>520967894
How observant you are.
You're so observant you should go observe the ground rushing up to meet you after you jump off of a sufficiently tall building to end your miserable life.
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>>520965584
Wish this model had better faceposing.
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>>520968117
You're doing way to much. Tone it down.
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>>520968185
Watch your tone pussy, when you're talking to me you should use "Sir" and my full handle since I'm your better.

Also you should kill yourself.
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>>520968474
Are you some lesbo pervert?!
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>>520968634
Why would a dike want to be called "Sir"? What kind of retarded response is that?
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>>520968634
I mean, they are a pissfielder
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>>520968738
You can't even keep your psychopaths straight in your retarded monkey brain.
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>>520968931
The psycho Katfag pretends not to be a pricefielder, but he is. It makes it too obvious, despite his best efforts.

>>520968728
It's "dyke".
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>>520968738
yup, the mentally ill one
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>>520969173
Yes, I am a Pricefielder. So what?
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>>520969356
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>520969173
Kek, your schizo head canon doesn't matter to me retard. I've said from the start that them being lesbians or not means fuck all to me, you don't believe it since you're literally insane and think everyone that isn't on your side is an enemy in disguise.

>>520969219
Refer to my earlier poetry pissbaby.
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>>520969356
No wonder you're constantly pushing LR
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>>520969530
>I've said from the start that them being lesbians or not means fuck all to me,
Saying you don't care about lesbians, doesn't mean you don't care about their relationship. Two different matters entirely.
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>>520970406
I've also said I do indeed care about rekindled friendship, which is different from gaysex. I don't know how the fuck you can be in this thread and think LiS1 is any good and not care about Chloe/Max's friendship/relationship at all. Why did you like the first fucking game if that meant nothing to you?

I'm going to watcha movie with my homie, feel free to explain what you liked about the first game if you hated that pillar of it.
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>>520969659
And I won't stop.ì, so suck it.
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>>520970703
>I don't know how the fuck you can be in this thread and think LiS1 is any good and not care about Chloe/Max's friendship/relationship at all.
Where did you get the idea that I don't care about their relationship?
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>>520970703
>I'm going to watcha movie with my homie
Anon, there's no homie. Seek medical attention immediately
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>>520971128
Kek
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>>520972084
This works so well.
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>>520972084
That vixen is a little too smug!
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>>520972084
Love it!
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>>520967049
"Dates are just numbers maaaan, who cares"
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Does anyone have some good Pricefield pics for phone wallpaper to share?
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>>520975486
I liked this one
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>>520975210
They "resolved" that in DE by hiding almost every dates and never commit to a timeline.
Considering they were constantly rewriting things, I guess it was easier
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>>520952653
Holy fucking based
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NEW LR SONG FROM TAPE 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAFIwYEcARI
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>>520985990
This is the ending song to Tape 1 if you play in streamer mode. The lyrics are very fitting.
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>>520985990
She's very pretty
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>>520952653
I'm curious, where this gif comes from?
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>>520988380
Re-skinned scene from shaun of the dead.
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Man, all the LR theories have already been said and there isn't much point in looking harder because tape 2 is out in a week.

Anyone got any good LR artwork to share(not screenshots but actual artwork)?
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>>520970905
So, let me get this straight. You care about the Chloe/Max friendship, but when it comes to them potentially fucking you lose your mind?
You realize it's incredibly pathetic to be foaming at the mouth about what is basically the default ship right? I don't care for it, but it doesn't bother me either. And being so against it just makes you seem like a homophobe, which is a really funny thing to be as a LiS fan.

>>520971128
We watched Breakfast at Tiffany's, it was pretty shit. Charade is a much better Audrey Hepburn movie.
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>>520989201
>when it comes to them potentially fucking you lose your mind?
No. Where did you get that idea? Honestly. Are any of your ideas based on anything tangible? Or do you just make stuff up in your head and roll with it?
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>>520989590
Are you not the faggot calling me a pricefielder? Why are you talking to me at all?
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>>520989707
Yes, I'm the anon calling you(the psycho Katfag) a pricefielder. I never stated, implied, or hinted at any problem with Max and Chloe being in a romantic relationship. Where did you even get that idea?
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>>520989947
Well, you're wrong retard.
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>>520989997
No, I'm right. It's evident in how hard you twist everything around to defend pricefield. While simultaneously trying to pretend you don't care. You just tossed out 2 completely baseless accusations at me to try and deflect from the fact that you're a pricefielder.
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>>520990514
>you twist everything around to defend pricefield
>I never stated, implied, or hinted at any problem with Max and Chloe being in a romantic relationship
kek, kill yourself.
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>>520990680
>Thinks he's found a contradiction
>It's actually not a contradiction at all
Retard
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>>520988996
No, in which account they shared this from?
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>>520990848
You're actually insane, kill yourself.
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>>520990981
>Sees contradictions where there are none
The insane one here is you.
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>>520991484
Kill yourself
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>>520968474
>>520968185

>Holy shit, is this some fucking mental asylum going on here?
>Bring the popcorn bucket Max, there's neurons flying all over the walls!
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>>520991632
Make me.
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>>520991967
You'll do it sooner or later, I know it.
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>>520990897
ah fuck, i've no clue.
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>>520992083
pff. fat chance I'm suiciding before the psycho poet.
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>>520992375
You will baby, I'll wait.
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>>520992439
See you in hell.
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>>520992562
Cya baby
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>>520992716
Maybe someone will buy your poetry down there.
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>>520992848
It's for pleasure.
Kill yourself.
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>>520992562
This is not a curse... it's a LOVE song!

Heh, stupid boy!
I'll put you under my spell! You'll be my slave!
I'll be your QUEEN and you'll be the slave!
IN HELL!
My slave in that motel!
Yeah I can't get you out of my head, boy!
Cause I actually love you and want you all for myself!
So take me back to the internal motel, I know you love me more than my bitch sister!
Whoooaoooo!
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>>520992935
lol, that's what every ngmi artist says.
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>>520993184
Nigga, you misplaying like crazy, you really think I'm some aspiring poet?
Legit retard
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>>520993496
>Nigga
You're not black.

>you really think I'm some aspiring poet?
Yes. You relate to Kat, because she's a little poetic psycho too. Well, she's not *really* a psycho. But close enough still for you to relate to.
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>>520993895
Yeah, I'm not a nigger, how could you tell? lol
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>>520994029
You have major Stamper vibes. That's how I could tell.
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>>520994617
That was a rhetorical retard.
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>>520994765
I know. It was funnier to answer it though. Stamper... Get it? The methed out and washed up artist, who calls everyone "nigga", because he's a white boy with some weird black culture fetish? It's funny.
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>>520995149
Are you that actual 40yo nigger from the other day?
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>>520995276
Don't pretend you don't know exactly what I'm talking about, Stamper. Who else could pull such references so deftly.
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>>520995946
Yeah, I have no idea who that is schizo.
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>>520996042
He's your future. Like, in the Lost Records sense, he could play your future self. You're practically the same person. Except I think he actually likes Black people. While you don't. I wonder what happened between 1995 and 2022 to make you turn racist. lol
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>>520996315
>I wonder what happened between 1995 and 2022 to make you turn racist. lol
Or the other way around, rather. What happened to cure you of your racism?
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>>520996315
Interacting with niggers will do that, easy.
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Jesus fuck, are you guys going to fill this thread with such pointless bullshit and bickering? Get a fucking grip and cut all of this
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>>520996893
Super sad Chloe said we should stop arguing. What do you say? Truce? I'll agree that I'm... well I'm not anything. But you? Let's agree that you're a sad little man, and go our separate ways.
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>>520998684
Kill yourself nigger.
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>>520998854
Truce.
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>>520999004
Never, kill yourself.
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>>520999039
Why not? D: Was it something I said?
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>>520999414
Kill yourself
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>>520999559
ok. I'll give you the last word. You're not being fun anymore. Go ahead, Katfag. Say the line.
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>>521000363
Love you baby, see you next thread.
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>>520995946
>such references so deftly.
What references exactly? I'm curious about what your schizo notepad looks like when it comes to "data" you've collected. I'm also curious about how you verify authenticity of data, you can't keep the psychopaths straight so do you just do it by feeling?
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>>520995946
I'm neither of these two anons. Who the hell is this guy?
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>>521004680
I had to google it and I was the one accused of being him, apparently it's some random internet psychopath. I guess he saw similarities somehow and that was enough for him to go with it.
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>>521004832
I assumed he was somehow related to life is strange. Like he was gonna be some dude who stalked a developer or something.
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>>521004680
>>521004609
>>521001153
--> >>521000363
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>>521005261
Not that I can see, it's a really odd one to accuse a random anon of being, but that fucking guy is legit insane (probably more so than I am). He's like keeping notes on me (half of which are wrong) it's pretty cute.

>>521005401
I want to start it again, we finished our second movie.
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>>520990897
the scary SE/D9 leaker
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>>521030750
link?
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>>520976875
>>520989175
>>520990119
>>520991118
>>520992547
>>520992942
>>521002537
>>521010805
GOBLIN!!!
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>>521032827
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>521034153
Love that contrast.
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>>521021232
>>521021521
>>521021864
>>521022241

comfy
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>>521035217
Thanks. They're fun to make
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>>521022241
>>521021864
>>521021521
>>521021232
Souless and flat
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>>521036136
lis 1 remake should be done by dontnod not slop9
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>>521036302
you seethe
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>>521021232
Wish this game had a photo mode to play around with
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>>521037774
too bad lis 1 had it in android and deck nine removed it for the remaster
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>>521037943
Amazing. What a great studio
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>>521037234
I don't know if D9 could fuck up even such a simple task

Most probably
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>>521039857
>Pls understand, Square gave us a tight budget and deadlines
>And why did you not fight back or argue for better contracts?
>...
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>>521037234
Flop Records has shown DN is completely useless by now. They had 10 years to prove otherwise and all we ended up with is Orange Man Bad game and Troon Mirrors
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>>521040517
Wow, such an edgy special boy we have here. Do you want a medal for that?
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>>521040964
GOBLIN!!!!!
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>>521040139
with people like Felice posting her recommendation letter from d9 on linkedin, I am not surprised that they dont have a voice
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>>521041129
What did they say?
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>>521040139
I don't even know how to comment on that.
Well done D9, you never change
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>>521040964
I mean, they’re not wrong. DN and D9 haven’t produced a success in years and they’re desperate to create something that’s successful like LiS1 yet consistently fail as they can never reach that same quality.
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>>521047589
Lost Records is actually good but suffers from bit too much slow pacing in the first part, and its nice they are trying different stuff. D9 is in a much more precarious situation because DE flopped, and the sequel is going to flop too unless they scrap it and change it from the bottom up
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>>521047736
Nah, LR isn’t good. To me it’s just like TC, a mediocre game with no real plot. I was bored to death playing, it is massively overrated on /lisg/.
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To summarise - everything D9 and DN made and will make after LiS1 will be forever in the shadow of the first game success
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>>521048117
proper lis 1 remake with proper budget & dn working on it, would deliver
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>>521047951
Unironiclly this
I had the same feelings when I tried playing it
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>>521049457
How do you imagine such remake?
Except for switching to UE5 because this is what obviously would happen?
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the only true LiS 1 sequel is the one I made in The Sims
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>>521050148
Where they attended the funeral that was posted recently?
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>>521050016
- new endings that Michel wanted to do but never got to
- more Vicky character development
- more outfits for all npcs/Max/Chloe,
- photo mode
- reworked camera mechanic similar to Swann's
- better puzzles
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>>521050530
GOBLIN!!!!!
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>>521051146
fanservice
will flop even harder, since the costs will be higher
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>>521051782
didnt seem to me that tlou 1 remake and until dawn remake flopped, SE's jumping on this wagon because of tlou booming all over again thanks to the shitty tv show
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>>521051146
I think it's too late to record new dialogue even though I'd love more Victoria content. Unless you're thinking of an entire re-recording of dialogue, which I think wouldn't go over well.

They didn't add any new content in the last visual remaster thing right?

>>521051882
>until dawn remake
That was most certainly a flop. TloU remake did well, but you can't really compare that game to LiS when it comes to popularity.
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>>521051146
Would retooling BtS into that remake be a good idea? An updated Rachel model would probably be the only good thing from it
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>>521051882
tlou is a totally different type of game
a remake of LiS, especially the way you described it, won’t bring in new fans and a lot of the old ones won’t come back either
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>>521052323
This, and the popularity for trajectory for LiS vs TLoU is really different. LiS got a lot of interest for the first game and then the popularity plummeted afterwards. TLoU got tons of popularity and maintained it for a long while, TLoU 2 did a lot of harm but it never dropped to LiS levels of low popularity, the show brought back a lot of popularity too.

Until Dawn was a much better comparison, a niche movie game that had some popularity once upon a time, but couldn't maintain it. The Until Dawn remaster was a strange and certainly not very profitable call, I sure as hell wouldn't have greenlit it if I was in charge.
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TV series + remake is a given if they don't kill the IP.
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>>521052181
bts remake would only ever work if Zak was back & given proper budget too, else it will be a lame project
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>>521053076
check the lis tiktok account, they aint letting it go
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>>521055427
Also, he has over 1,800 viewers right now. What do you think this will translate into sales-wise?
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If such a remake would arrive actually well made and would even expand on the first game greatness, then it might sell very well. I refuse to believe that fans wouldn't be interested.

If it doesn't sell well, then it means that franchise is officially murdered and there is nothing to scavenge.
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>>521055534
0, check out reflectstudios's outrage over twitter about how people always watch youtubers play his games but said viewers never buy them
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>>521062881
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>521059742
I looked up his games instead, and saw they there all low effort asset flip horror games. His work is not comparable to Dontnod's at all. He makes jumpscare games for streamers to clipfarm. Dontnod makes works of art.
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>>521070054
Thank you for putting into comparison
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>>521071581
You get what I mean, right? When a streamer's audience looks at the low effort asset flip, they don't see anything that they want to experience themselves. They just want the thrill that the streamer brings. But when they look at a Dontnod game, they see beauty. It's something they want to experience.
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>>521055025
>lis tiktok
I looked it up. And they post a lot of Chloe stuff, and Max and Chloe. TikTok seems to be run by a different person.
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>>521070054
you'd be surprised, but it isn't asset flip, you are missing out bwo on his streams
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>>521074540
"bwo"?
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>>521072438
I wonder if that is due to damage control post - DE.
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>>521075372
LiS TikTok seems all about the original game, and Max and Chloe. It posts very little Double Exposure stuff. That's why I said it seems to be run by a different person. Because this person clearly loves Chloe. One Chloe clip has 5 million views. Wtf.
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>>521076083
Wasn't the account at some point going in full swing to pander DE to youngsters and all?
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>>521047951
>>521049753
I really like LR so far but these are perfectly valid complaints, especially when compared to LiS 1 where you see a tornado, someone gets shot, and you rewind time within the first like 15 minutes of the game. Hopefully Tape 2 will properly answer all the mysteries set up in Tape 1 but it's definitely a slow burn and nobody would blame you for quitting.

I think most people who enjoy it are people like me who really enjoyed LiS 1 and found that LR has been pretty good at hitting a lot of the same themes and tones that LiS 1 had. It's hard to explain but basically I'm the four girls' story in much the same way I enjoyed Max and Chloe's story. And I haven't gotten that playing BtS or TC, even though I did enjoy those when I played them. LR is just hitting me in much the same way that LiS 1 did. I don't know how they did it. If they don't fuck up Tape 2, LR could become my favorite over LiS 1.
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>>521079423
>I think most people who enjoy it are people like me who really enjoyed LiS 1
But I loved LiS, I just think LR sucks, it’s so slow and boring.
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>>521080996
If I were you I'd wait for Tape 2 and then see what people are saying about it. It could unironically be a "trust me bro it gets good 1000 hours in" type of game. I also thought LR was slow and boring in the beginning but it did hook me a few hours in.
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>>521079423
The slow burn is a valid complaint, and it seems like they obviously wanted the story to be quite different from LIS1 approach of loading the big mistery in the front.

There was an interview I read somewhere in which either Luc or Michel claimed the game was originally early planned to be a single relase, but then opted for a two part approach. With this context, it makes a lot more sense if the slow pacing was conceived into the view of a story with no episodical format, but once it is separated it doesn't work in the same way.
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>>521081702
Huh. Would the slow pace been very different if the game was released in one go? I'm not so sure about that. I think regardless of one tape or 2, the slow pace is intentional and it could be that they wanted to be different from LiS1 like you said.

Either way, it's shaping up to be my favorite of these games. Tuesday can't come fast enough. I already got the day off work. I didn't play LiS1 at launch so I missed out on all the discussions and mysteries. I'm glad to be around for this one.
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>>521082587
>the slow pace is intentional and it could be that they wanted to be different from LiS1 like you said
Likely so, as Michel Koch said they specifically said the name of the two parts are tied to the emotions and feelings you get going through them. And after playing tape 1, it makes sense it is called Bloom as it shows mainly Swann bonding with the girls and cozy slice of life with the mistery/supernatural slowly creeping into the story as it goes foward.

So I'm expecting Rage to be the most intense part of the game, and it wouldn't work if we did not have the relationship growth beforehand.
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>>521081702
I think I read that or a different one but one of them did mention binge culture and how it doesn't really have a lasting impact nowadays since you just move on to the next thing. I'm ambivalent about "drip feed" releases but I'm grateful that it did give space for discussions and theories to flourish, albeit sometimes sparse in these threads and other places
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>>521081702
If they edited out all of the awkard pauses in Autum and Swann's dialogue, they could reduce playtime by 30 minutes.
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>>521083820
Agree. The constant back and fourth betwenn '95 and Swann and Autumn in 2022 is what to me kills the pacing. If they just reduced that until Nora arrives and kept the '95 section a bit longer, it would have been slighty better for the overall pacing.
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>>521084072
One of the theories I saw thrown around is that this is intentional because you are actually creating the events of the past as you talk about it during the present, which would explain those parts with the constant jumps between past and present. Some people said this could be relevant to the book that adult Swann is writing.
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>>521084348
I had the idea they are going to pull some sort of Alan Wake like scenario with the Abyss materializing Swann wishes or something, but it's hard to see how something like that would be implemented.
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>>521084072
We're not on the same page. Because I'm ok with the scenes being there.

I... Just wish... they.... didn't talk like.... this.
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>>521085018
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>521085018
>Yee jeans
lol
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>>521084751
I think it's realistic, it's been 27 years after all. Felt like they were walking on eggshells the first hour of their reunion but one problem is they still talk that way after a few drinks, even when you choose for Swann to be an alky
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Eternal.
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>>521086046
Baesed and truthpilled
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>>521086046
Preach!
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>>521086046
brutal
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>>521085634
Stopping and starting a line here and there can be used to good effect. But when it's done too often, it stands out.(like Christopher Walken) It's like when you become aware that you're breathing, so you start manually breathing. Like sure you can say "it's realistic, you need to breathe to live". But it's also incredibly awkward to be so aware that you're breathing. Someone in the director's booth needed to tell the VAs to stop stalling in the middle of every line. Or at least get multiple takes, one with and one without gaps, and then edit the gap ones in where it's not so distracting.
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>>521086046
Fixed it for you
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>>521090553
That isn't accurate though. She has that abomination of a letter and her flirting with Victoria.
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>>521090553
Kek

also, that pricefielder samefagging was pathetic
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>>521092538
I think it’s hilarious Chloe would hook up with Victoria of all people
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>>521092538
I think they were just meant to be friends, but the way it was written felt strange and ambiguous
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>>521092538
She's not in the game

>>521092697
>pricefielder samefagging
Yup
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>>521086046
Truth!
>>521092697
>>521093308
Take your pills freak
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These vids of Hannah Telle eating candies, it's so weird.
Sure, she's the only one left who can promote LiS but why now? Is something coming soon?
LiS will live or die with Max it seems.
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>>521093540
cry more
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>>521093891
She was featured in the candy-eating clips, the one where she listens to FF music, and she’s been spotted in both London and Colorado. I think it’s one of two things: either they’re wrapping everything up and giving her a bit of extra work before canceling future plans, or they’re keeping her involved because something new is coming soon.
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>>521090553
brutal
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>>521093540
You know people write "forever" in memorials too?
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>>521094275
To have a new game coming this soon would be suicide given all the negative reception and flop DE took, not to mention how the next game is most likely being a rushed piece of shit hold together by ducktape and AI crap

pic very related
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>>521095210
Kek
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>>521095210
Get lost loser. They have posted stuff like that for 10 years. They made the game and are Pricefielders
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>>521094275
I think it's the first time I see a fanbase so scared about the announcement of a new game.
I lurked a bit in different fan spaces and the feeling was mostly shared.
I'm not as invested in this franchise (love the first one) but I think I understand fans and it's truly interesting. All the behind the scenes drama is captivating.
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>>521095737
>They have posted stuff like that for 10 years
Yeah, eveytime they need to sell a new game they post something like this
>are Pricefielders
Michel said himself he'd never choose sacrifie AB ending
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>>521096226
A pricefielder can still pick bay, Chloe literally asks for it.
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>>521097732
No wonder she dumped Max after Bae, Max didn’t respect her wishes
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>>521097891
I've not played anything past LiS1, does Joyce 100% die in bae? In Chloe's place I'd probably be somewhat grateful to not die because of Max's choice, but that choice killing my mother would mean I'd probably never forgive Max for ignoring my wishes.
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>>521098603
>does Joyce 100% die in bae?
Yes
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>>521096226
Source
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>>521098752
Max the parent destroyer, first it was William and then it was Joyce, absolute savage making Chloe an orphan.
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>>521098603
>In Chloe's place I'd probably be somewhat grateful to not die because of Max's choice, but that choice killing my mother would mean I'd probably never forgive Max for ignoring my wishes.
You hit the nail on the head about this and this is partly why they broke up, but their hardcore shippers say that it wouldn’t make sense when it does
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>>521087952
its effect is somewhat exacerbated too because almost every line by them is so "breathy". Gus', Pam's and Corey's VAs are more composed I guess and got better direction imo. Still good performances all around so far
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>>521098603
>>521100137
Chloe also says that whatever choices Max makes, she will respect it, including not using the photo to jump back, because ultimately she understands how much the rewind mechanic is hurting Max by using it, and she doesn't know if going back and letting Chloe die will solve anything.

And plus, Chloe is aware than Joyce is going to die in the storm, but she also wants to die because she had suicidal thoughs and depression in the past. It's not that black and white like "Max doesn't respect Chloe wishes" as you make it out to be. And D9 actively retconned the smile she does to Max with stupid shit like "she never looked at me the same when we found out Joyce died", when in the original game she already is aware of it, and smiles to console Max post storm.
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>>521096226
>Michel said himself he'd never choose sacrifie AB ending
And yet he's the first one to at least advocate for Bae and the respect of the ending he wouldn't personally choose, which is a chad move IMO
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>>521095737
>>521096226
Max and Chloe are soulmates. However, soulmates doesn't always mean lovers. They can be friends and still be soulmates. "Stating Max + Chloe Forever", doesn't necessarily mean they're pushing a romantic relationship.
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>>521102464
He never said that. He is too smart to give him opinion about the ending like that.
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>>521102892
comments like that are definitely gonna make pfs seethe
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>>521101616
I'm reminded of the audio book for Cradle. Most of the audiobooks in the series came out great. But then at like book 8 or something, suddenly there's this weird style of editing. Where there's a long pause inbetween certain sentences. Not all sentences, but every now and again, you'll notice a long pause. It would seem as though some editor thought he could better pace the dialogue by adding these pauses in. That's only a guess, but I can't imagine what else might have caused it.

The narrator was informed of this, and stated that he had no idea what caused it, but he was going to investigate. The next audiobook didn't have those awkward pauses.
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>>521102892
>>521103727
You are in the wrong fandom
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>>521103785
And who are you to decide?
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>>521094275
More likely the latter, she was in Colorado not long ago, so it checks out.
especially as we know she was in Colarado recently.
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>>521104540
Are they really going to push DE2 out knowing its going to bomb if none of the feedback for Flop Exposure is taken into account? Feel like a suicide move, unless they are actively reshooting the story
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>>521102892
Oh yeah, maybe she'll even start cheering Max on to make out with Amanda
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I knew things would have gone to shit once DE entered the conversation. I swear that trash cashgrab flop has done irreparable damage to the community more than BtS and LiS2 could ever do
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>>521077701
A whole bunch of DE marketing was definitely aimed at Tiktok kids with no attention span.
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>>521104893
True, unless they actually listened to feedback from the surveys and Hannah’s back for reshoots or some kind of follow-up. Chloe’s presence won't magically fix DE2 if it’s already a trainwreck, but her showing up would definitely get people talking. Honestly, she’s the only real card they’ve got left to play at this point.
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Daily reminder that Arcane and LiS have shared communities, and those who ship TimeBomb and CaitVi are more likely to ship Pricefield as well
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>>521115137
Time bomb is cringe as fuck and always will be.
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>>521115137
Caitvi is cute. Timebomb is absolutely deranged. Both have repeatedly tried to kill the other and Jinx has personally massacred dozens of Ekko's friends.
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>>521121338
>That swirl
Carcosa.... The yella kang...
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>>521121606
What would you trade
What would you miss
What would you give
To the abyss
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>>521121338
Context?
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>>521123069
Max told her what happened to Rachel in the OG timeline
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>>521123069
the client didn't pay
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>>521123069
Chloe and Max are cucking her on the other side of that door.
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>>521122570
I would scream into it.
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>>521121338
I hated Rachel so much in this comic.
>Keeps quitting jobs
>Unsuccessfully trying to be a fucking Instagram influencer
>Chloe has to work her ass off at a garage to support them both
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>>521124565
More and more proof that she was destined for porn
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>>521124565
You forgot the single most crucial part:
All of this is in LA. You probably would have seen her on Girls Do Porn back in the day.
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>>521125778
My hope would be Facial Abuse or Dog Fart
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>>521124565
Do you not think Rachel would’ve been an instagram thot had she not died? She seems like that kind of girl who would’ve tried to be an influencer/social media model before eventually whoring herself out on OnlyFans.
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>>521144765
>whoring herself
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>>521145548
I mean, Rachel is already kind of a whore, she was messing with Chloe, Frank, and Jefferson all at the same time. At least doing OnlyFans she’d get paid for it.
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>>521147046
>Jefferson
Guy strikes me as a homo or a volcel, only way Max not getting raped makes sense. Was him fucking Rachel or any woman ever confirmed anywhere?
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>>521147416
>Was him fucking Rachel
Need to re-read her letters

Also >>521145548
based Loretta mogs that whore >>520299830
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>>521108425
>>521118832
>>521121121
>>521121606
>>521136342
GOBLIN!!!!!
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>>521157467
the third controller is for who I wonder...
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>>521157467
Cute
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>>521145548
>literal who the character
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>>521160091
literally no one cares about your opinion
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>>521160590
The same is true for Loretta.
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>>521100137
>When the storm is raging
"I'll always be with you Max"

> 9 years later
"Hold on, my mommy died there, fuk u Max"
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>>521160843
who?
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Damn, DE derangement syndrome messed up the shitlfielders' brain so bad, they're literally seetheing over Loratta mogging that whore Rachel.
Fucking Rachel, the character they've despised all these years.
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>>521163002
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>521160457
Best girl of the group by a long shot
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>>521162725
Your baits are became a lot more low effort anon, just give up and chill out. We are not going anywhere, and we will persevere
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>>521164229
she'd be the most fun to hang with for sure
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>>521165281
brutal
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June 8 is the Xbox showcase. Well this is it if part 2 is coming this year that's where they will show it

De broke me as a lis fan. As a pricefielder it spat on my ship by making Chloe abandon Max off screen through a letter and shove Amanda and Vinh on me all the while doing a storm plot again

Double Exposure broke the lis community. Part 2 looks to make it worse unless it by some miracle they pull a crazy twist to save it all

I don't know what to think. All I know is they can't pull a marketing campaign like part 1. Rihanna's mystery lead role will need to be part 2 and she will need to be front and center of their promo you can't have fans questioning if Chloe will be in the game this time. Since they spoiled Gabe and Safi's deaths in their trailers they better hope to god they've got something big to spoil about pricefield to get fans excited and open right off the bat

But man I don't have much faith
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>>521165281
It was sad seeing how much Max felt down from not being able to offer her love to Chloe
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>>521171669
I think they will release something this year, also I don't think the game will be done before 2027.

Their marketing strategy should be literally backing off from DE, calling it officially a mistake.
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>>521171701
Chloe'll be ready to settle down with her once she's had her fun
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>>521171832
A DLC could even be good but the only way fans will be happy is if it's a dlc that reveals some kind of twist to the break up

I feel like part 2 needs to come out soon if it's bad just get it over with and if it's good they need to get it out because the fandom is in a bad place. They can't even post on lis socials without the fan base attacking their every move.

They need to fix this mess as soon as possible. But man I don't know what hope there is if there isn't some kind of big twist to reveal that changes everything about part 1
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Mark ur calendars June 8
Even if the game isn't coming out until 2026 they still really need to drop something to get fans excited again. One thing is for sure they're fucked if Rihanna isn't a lead. They can't hide Chloe again or it's literally over. Nobody is going to want to play along this time. If there's some crazy twist to part 1 the trailer is gonna have to reveal it do something that changes the fandoms perceptions overnight

Otherwise I guess it's over for real
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The least I expect they might do is a trailer with a hangcliffer or massive teaser.
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>>521171701
It was not her Chloe, Max was happy for her but missed her Chloe
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>>521172885
I know, that is what I meant.
The same person in theory but Max couldn't even behave the same way towards her
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>>521172559
BTW, do you know why Ashly seems to be out of picture?
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>>521173031
but the sad parts only make the good ones feel better
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>>521173287
Agree. This scene was an excellent climax. Made everything worth it
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>>521173146
I thought Ashly was involved in the writer and VA strike still
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>>521171669
>>521171832
>>521172157
>>521172559
It's not happening this year. But if it does, massive red flag on it's quality, just look at what Aysha claimed the situation was going at D9 before getting fired >>521095348

We are going to get ChatGPT written scripts to compensate the lack of writers and it's going to be a glorious clusterfuck lmao
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>>521173702
What is the alternative? 3-4 years of the fan base destroying itself from the inside out. I think it would be wise to show something in the near future. But I am more leaning towards DE being a series killer and its all over.
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>>521173702
I'll pick Chat GPT over feet fetish joke
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>>521171669
>De broke me as a lis fan
goodbye then

>>521173931
>fan base destroying itself from the inside out
that's exactly what fanbase has been doing for the last 10 years

>>521174006
gain taste
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>>521174006
The writers of DE were such weirdoes. The wrong people in every single way.
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>>521174464
Weren't they the right people when they wrote for BtS and TC?
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>>521174549
Some of them, but I do not think BtS and TC were particularly good
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>>521174180
Bait used to be believable
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>>521174645
BTS is good, but it shows what D9 is truly like.

They failed to keep up with what's established in the previous game (classroom picture with people that didn't know Chloe in LiS1 even though said photo claims otherwise) , got dates wrong and then rushed the ending
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>>521174731
no bait, just shows how hypocritical shitfield assholes are
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>>521174549
Only three people remained from BtS to DE, and in True Colors by the IGN article is made clear that Zak Garris had to reduce influence of "certain members" and said how much inflexible and hard to work with they were. Garris was then kicked out of DE in early development, and Mallory bragged how they rewrote the story into "something they really liked and were proud of".
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>>521174549
only like 2-3/10 people who wrote DE were there for BtS/TC
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>>521174851
>something they really liked and were proud of
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>>521175667
Mallory were one weird person. No one thought it was weird that she added a native American love interest? No self-insert at all. Move on people. Max is mine now.
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>>521176564
>she added a native American love interest
That is not correct
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>>521176670
GOBLIN!!!!
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>>521176564
Is she even native american to begin with?
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>>521177041
GOBLIN!!!
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>>521177485
GOBLIN!!!!!
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>>521177485
finally some good fanart
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>>521177671
We are getting plenty of it
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>>521177645
That looks kino
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>>521177813
GOBLIN!!!!!
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>>521177813
she's so dorky
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>>521178267
definitely gonna need either swann or kat with the wolverine picture frame meme
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>>521179303
my battered wife syndrome wife
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>>521179303
Someone pointed out that she has a bruise on her forehead that isn't there earlier in the game. And now I'm fairly convince Corey hit her. Coupled with the letter she wrote about Corey scaring her last night. And the overall wife beater vibes Corey gives off.
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>>521179303
Bet you she lives in a caravan with 8 kids and a proud red maga hat!
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>>521179854
Nice detail, and it's going to be so interesting how it goes down, and if we are going to ever see adult Dylan as well
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>>521179854
one thing people never seem to mention is Corey's letter from his mom. It's seems recent and he's definitely going through some shit which is probably where the abuse stems from. The polaroid of them from '94 depicts happier times and, giving Corey the benefit of the doubt, abuse-free.
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>>521179303
>>521179854
She looks like an uglier version of Rachel
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>>521180959
>"He's a good boy, his mom just died"
Excuses, excuses.

>>521181065
She looks like Kat, if Kat were a normie.
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>>521181550
They used the same for Nathan lol
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>>521181550
he just needs a good ol' churchin to let all that grieving out
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>>521179854
Plot twist: it was her dad
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>>521182493
That idea crossed my mind. I hate it. But it makes sense too.
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>>521190014
Nice shots.
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>>521190425
thanks!
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https://www.thegamer.com/life-is-strange-double-exposure-chloe-ashly-burch-might-not-have-written-max-breakup-infamous-fan-reaction-baftas-interview/

>Ashly Burch Doesn't Think Life Is Strange's Max And Chloe Would Have Broken Up Either

>When asked about what she thought of Max and Chloe breaking up in Double Exposure, Burch noted that being an actor means putting a lot of yourself into a character, but ultimately having to pass them off and not being in control of their story.

>Burch said that she respects the developers for deciding what's best for the game, but that her own canon wouldn't have had it going down that way.

>"They decided that’s what was best for the game and I respect that. My own canon in my head, I might not have written it that way, but we all have our own head-canons. It’s a funny thing to be like, ‘I love that character and I put so much of myself into her’, but she’s someone else’s baby now." - Ashly Burch

Diplomatic response similar to Michel's, but I can tell even if Ashly is not the biggest fan of Max and Chloe, she might despise how awfully written Chloe is and how poorly the breakup scenario is.
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>>521193034
>Ashly Burch Doesn't Think Life Is Strange's Max And Chloe Would Have Broken Up Either
Misleading title as she never says it. She says she would’ve handled/written it differently.
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>>521193034
I like both Ashly Burch and Hannah Telle, but let’s be honest, they’ve never been big supporters of Max and Chloe. Hannah can be pretty negative about it, and Ashly hasn’t been involved with the series for years. She clearly moved on and doesn’t seem to care much about it anymore. So what she says now doesn’t really matter. The breakup in Double Exposure was badly written and upset a lot of people. Of course she’s going to say something safe.
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>>521193496
>Hannah can be pretty negative about it
Hannah is just shiftless and she will change her opinion depending on which developer is in charge or what it will make her good with the publisher to get a job, and she see Max as more of her self insert than a different character.
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>>521193707
I don’t know. Someone shared a bunch of videos in a Discord server I’m in, and to me she came across as pretty negative. It doesn’t really matter to me, I get it, don’t bite the hand that feeds you
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>>521194145
Didn't at some point claimed that Max and Chloe were soulmates, only to walk it back and be overtly negative in some other interview?
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>>521194379
She did. The interview is from the period while DE is being made, and the person interviewing her is working at D9. But he seemed sincerely surprised by her take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WExKd1bnQ9I&t=3645s&ab_channel=WebbPickersgill
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>>521194747
It sounds like she made an argument "I wouldn't last with Chloe so I don't think Max and Chloe would last either".

Objectively this is a poor argument to make but whatever
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>>521195105
That's why I said that Hannah has no real opinion on the characters, and she see Max as her own self insert, rather than a separate character with her own opinions and growth.
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>>521195105
It's a weak argument, and we really shouldn’t put more weight on the opinions of voice actors than anyone else. But I do think the atmosphere at Deck Nine during development probably shaped her perspective. In her first interview after the game came out, she actually walked back quite a few things from her earlier comments, just not enough to make it feel sincere. That’s why I think it’s smarter to take Ashley Burch’s approach and just stay diplomatic. Ashley might not be a Pricefielder, she leans more AmberPrice for some reason, but she clearly adored Chloe. I honestly can’t imagine she’d be thrilled with how Chloe was portrayed in Double Exposure.

https://www.reddit.com/user/LiS-AshlyBurch/
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>>521195659
I just want to add that while I do like Ashley, I think she’s also projecting a bit. She lost someone, her girlfriend, I believe, to a drug overdose before working on the game. And if you pay even a little attention, the story makes it clear in a hundred different ways that Chloe and Rachel weren’t truly in a relationship. Rachel was using Chloe, and Chloe clung to her as a way to cope after losing everyone else. She wasn’t happy. There’s a big difference between lust, which burns hot and fast, and love, which grows deeper and steadier over time
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>>521195659
That interview was a very confused attempt to damage control to DE, and it felt more like Hannah was being prompt what to say, like with the weird bothsiding Chloe and Safi, saying that Chloe lives in the present yet claiming that her bond with Max is sacred, ect...
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Hannah’s stance on Max and Chloe seems to shift quite a bit, but in her latest interview, she said DE is focused mainly on "Max healing," then added, "IF they’re meant to be together, time apart will only make their relationship stronger. And who's to say they won’t come together again?"

We know she can’t say anything out without Square’s approval, so this is 100% bait. Ashly seems to be backing Michael, this isn’t how they would’ve written things, but let’s face it, DE was only half a game and an absolute dumpster fire.

DE2 is coming I'm sure, it's just a matter of when and if they’ve managed to course-correct in time. Rhianna’s mystery lead role? Probably Chloe. She’s the last card they can play without completely losing the majority of the fanbase.
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>>521199702
you definitely missed the focus groups they've recently conducted
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>>521199702
And what if you are wrong and they are about to give their last "fuck you" to the audience before they go bankrupt?
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>>521200179
And you haven't revealed anything from those focus groups, because either you weren't there and you're just trolling, or you haven't the balls to break NDA here on 4chan
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>>521200240
Then I'm wrong, I have no issue admitting that. Deck Nine screwed the pooch on this one. Time will tell if DE2 still releases.
>>521200179
What leaked from the focus groups?
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>>521200240
Then we'll make that game flop, hard.
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>>521202690
GOBLIN!!!!!
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>>521197584
I agree, the interview really did sound like someone else was speaking through her. There was so much back and forth that it ended up feeling meaningless, just the usual “both sides will get something” kind of message.

>>521201605
The fact that Hannah was in Colorado makes me think it was for reshoots, which suggests the next game wasn’t originally very Pricefield-friendly.
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>>521202980
>The fact that Hannah was in Colorado makes me think it was for reshoots, which suggests the next game wasn’t originally very Pricefield-friendly.
Do you believe those are reshoots due to the feedback from the surveys, or just them going foward?
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>>521201471
NTA, but I have yet to come across a single opinion from a Pricefield supporter who was satisfied with what they saw there. All the comments range from evasive to downright negative
>>521201605
Nothing certain of course, but it looks like Max and Chloe are not part of their long-term plan
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>>521203649
The TV show is still not shelved and maybe it will come out in the next years, and that will be an obvious LiS1 adaptation, so they have to include Chloe in a relevant manner since she's the heart of the story
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There were questions of a remake in the open survey form they sent a while back. I really do think Square wants remake LiS1 in a REmake fashion because it is still the game that sells the most, but they are totally clueless about why it worked so well.
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>>521203649
Then they're as dumb as a rock. If DE2 moves forward without course corfecting at all, the franchise is as good as dead. It'd bomb worse than DE. We best hope Hannah’s in Colorado for reshoots, otherwise this is gonna crash and burn harder than it already has.
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>>521204835
Of course it’s a short-sighted move. Before, a new player could discover Life is Strange, fall in love with Max and Chloe, and naturally become part of the fanbase. Now, that connection isn’t really an option anymore
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How are they even going to sell the TV series? Sure, they can remake the original game, but what’s the big draw if Max and Chloe are already broken up in Double Exposure? For a lot of people, it’ll feel pointless to invest in a story or fan base that just ends in nothing. Deck Nine and Square Enix really didn’t think this through. If a TV series does happen, and I do think it’s coming, do they honestly believe the Bay ending has a strong enough fanbase to carry it? Of course not.
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>>521207486
Maybe they’ll make it an interactive TV series, Black Mirror on Netflix did that with Bandersnatch.
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>>521207486
They hoped that Max alone was enough to carry the series foward, and they massively miscalculated how the fanbase has grown attached to Pricefield and Chloe with the Bae ending. It doesn't helpt they essentially pandered to this ship for decades before ending up with the garbage called DE.
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>>521203649
Jesus.
Are they actually going to double down on what they did?
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>>521208639
But if they go ahead with a TV series and it’s a hit, you’d expect Max and Chloe to skyrocket in popularity. Then they release the remake after the show, it sells well, and suddenly there’s a whole new generation of Max and Chloe fans. And yet the plan is for all of them to just move on from Max and Chloe in favor of whatever uninspired direction they tried with Double Exposure? It makes absolutely no sense. Double Exposure just sabotaged both the TV series and remake.
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>>521209230
If they do, it’s career suicide. DE2 would be the final nail in the coffin, DE already divided the fanbase, doubling down would just bury the franchise for good.
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>>521207486
Imagine if they ended the TV show with Bay ending.

Holy hell, just imagine.
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>>521209868
They'll have to make that clear because people will ask how are going to adapt a videogame that has two possible endings
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>>521207486
>>521209491
they'll just twist it so that fans were wrong all along and that the bay ending is the definitive one. Maybe a few ragebait articles sprinkled in with how saving Chloe was missing the point and the piece de resistance, D9 writers gaslighting everyone that their vision is the true canon all along
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>>521209996
If it is only one season they’ll do bay, if it’s multiple seasons bae
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>>521210192
This doesn't sound like a good solution
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>>521210164
They already tried that with DE and hasn't worked at all, look at how Mallory's tweet was received, the backlash and all. And DE fans are so little and the game is so poor it won't replace the old fanbase.
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>>521209491
Square Enix is the king of stupid directions, look at how they handled their past western IPs and lost them all.
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>>521210164
"maybe this time it will work"
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>>521210892
they don't have a famous mouthpiece with enough influence amongst the masses to do it yet. if a remake ever gets made and it follows that plotline, the majority, that's never heard of the game, nevermind played it and only knew about because so-and-so actor and streaming service is involved, will take that as canon. you guys love to mention the TLoU show and that's exactly what happened
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>>521211551
That’s not a strong argument. A TV series needs to be focused, which means Max and Chloe would naturally be the center of attention. With the right casting, a solid script, and the backing of a good streaming platform, it has all the ingredients to be a hit. Max and Chloe would win over the audience, no question. But if they want to capitalize on that momentum… it’s pretty much impossible when every road leads straight to Double Exposure.
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>>521212331
you're really not seeing the forest for the trees here and that's fine.
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>>521212331
>>521212586
Probably just that weird Bay guy again. I’m guessing they’ll try to let the audience choose the ending or include both somehow.

But we all know that Pricefield would the draw. Bay people are so clueless.
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>>521211551
As far as I know, the TloU had direct involvment from the game creators like Neil Druckmann who told their imput on the show and how they wanted it to be, and done rightly so. It does help that the original game already had a strong linear cinematic flair and script that can translate well to screen.

A LiS show is a totally different beast in this regard. D9 have no voice in chapter because they do not care and/or have laid off all the main devs from the last game, DontNod's Michel, Luc and Christian Divine should be called but its not going to happen, so you are left with Square's management team in London, dealing with a tv show adaptation that will have to create a linear story out of a game whose main gimmick was the "choose your own story" bit. Even assuming the Dmitri Johnson guy had the good will to make a good product that respect the fans, he still has to deal with Square's bullshit, expecially after the failure of DE.
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Which game has the best soundtrack?
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>>521213731
>Probably just that weird Bay guy again.
I assume you're talking about me. But actually, I haven't posted about DE or Bay ending all thread. And I haven't been keeping up with your guys' conversation. I just happened to glance and see "weird bay guy", and assumed you were talking about me.
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>>521214235
exactly. unless what's presented is what the "fans" want, it's everything but. Anyone they hire could spell the project's death knell. Writer with a chip on their shoulder and wants to go against the grain and hates gamers? Almost always guaranteed. Square having final say? good luck. Studio interference? good luck. It's nice to hope but with the recent track record of video game adaptations, which has never been that good, why expect anything faithful? Nobody really wants to slum it with a kickstarter project, what other option is there?
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>>521214235
It really wouldn’t be that hard. Just lean into what already worked: keep most of the original story intact, stay true to the tone, deepen the romance between Max and Chloe, and let the audience choose the ending. Max and Chloe alone would draw in a huge online queer audience. It’s one of those rare situations where the formula for success is obvious, but I still think they’ll mess it up. The script will probably go through endless rewrites, and they’ll end up adding all sorts of weird stuff nobody asked for.
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>>521214551
I like the LR OST a lot, but LiS1 has Syd Matters and Mogwai among other great stuff, so best OST still goes to LiS1. I've only played 3/6 games though.
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>>521214551
TC. LiS1 has Syd Matters though.
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>>521214551
LiS1 has Syd Matters, Breton, Sparklehorse, Alt-J.

All of these are great songs
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>>521194747
This was basically her saying she hates Chloe. She even said she prefers Kate as a character over Chloe. This was if nothing else really dumb from a PR point of view.

I hope we get a TV series. Time to bring in a younger queer actress who can actually connect with the fans. Emma Myers would be perfect.
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>>521210192
This is so fucking stupid and I hate that it makes perfect sense.
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>>521210192
>>521224836
True, Bay is just the more dramatic/tragic ending. If I was writing it I'd request only a single season and go with bay, just because I know that'd be the saddest way to end it and it'd resonate with people better. Knowing that money is what's first and foremost in these guys minds I'd expect it to end with bae though, so they can make money on a second season.
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>>521223926
Unfortunately they'll shoehorn Milla Jovovich's nepo baby in there, and who knows which actress will play Chloe
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>>521226217
That would also be their downfall because if they don't turn a profit the show won't be renewed and you're stuck with a disappointing one-season series rather than a definitive one-season series which could perform better.
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>>521226427
The chances of the people involved making something good are close to zero, so it's probably going to suck either way. Queer tragedies just don’t work today the way they might have in the past. The Bay ending functions as a tragic finale in the game, sure, but as the ending of a TV show, it’s a disaster. And if they plan to milk the series, there’s nothing to build on with Bay. It’s a dead end.
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>>521227536
You think such an ending would be better if they were just best friends and not romantic? Or, god forbid, they decide to gender swap either Max or Chloe?

I don't see them being gay as the reason such an ending would fail for a tv series, but I guess I can't discount it either. And I hate that you're right and that a show would fail due to general incompetence.
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>>521228171
Life is Strange is ultimately a bildungsroman, a coming-of-age story. Its ending is deliberately open to interpretation, but one common reading has always been that Max's choice reflects the risks of being openly queer. Choosing Chloe means embracing her love but losing her place in society. Choosing Arcadia Bay means sacrificing love for social order. In today’s climate, a story about a young queer woman giving up love to preserve the status quo will not be a winner
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>>521228802
>Max's choice reflects the risks of being openly queer

I've never heard this interpretation before. It sort of makes sense but it also sounds like the kind of interpretation made by someone whose only identity is "I'm gay" and can't help but look at everything through that lens. Basically projection.

I always saw the game as someone's attempt at changing the past and trying to have the "perfect run" at life only to realize that growing up means letting the past go and moving on. You can't change the past but you can change how you deal with it and how you move forward. It's a coming-of-age story but the gayness is a minor role that is even optional depending on how you played the game.
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>>521228802
>Max's choice reflects the risks of being openly queer.
Max is not oppressed, she lives in two of the most liberal states during both her games
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>>521229506
No, that was actually a pretty common interpretation. Same with the idea that the whole story is about Max breaking free from heteronormativity. The fandom has just devolved over time, and most of the discussion these days tends to be fairly surface-level.

But that’s the strength of Life is Strange, the story is open to many interpretations, which is a hallmark of good writing. Of course, not everyone is going to approach it with a university background or through an academic lens, and that’s totally fine too. There is no wrong or right answer.
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>>521232435
grim
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>>521233237
Based!
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>>521232435
That's not real, is it? Chloe looks uncanny.
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>>521237095
SET ME FREEEEEEEE FROM THIS BAD DREEEAAAAMMMMMM
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>>521236554
Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. Baby shark!

If they're doing the streamer "I'm too cool to take this seriously!" meme then of course you shouldn't watch it.
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>>521232435
Where's this from? And why does Chloe look like that?
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>>521237716
That's that stupid fuck Mazzu competing with Frank to see who can make her look uglier
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>>521237402
My bad. I deleted my post because I'm retarded. Also haven't slept in 36 hours, so I'm getting woozy. But it wasn't even a Bloom and Rage stream I was watching. It was a Outer Wilds stream. He's in the middle of the Echoes of the Eye DLC, allowing his chat to play baby shark, and other random sound alerts with text to speech prompts. He seemed like he was into it at first. But he keeps encouraging the sound alerts. So I figure he really doesn't give a fuck about the atmosphere.
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>>521239228
I wonder if all the alien stuff will be incorporated into the narrative. Or if it's all just symbolic.
Hell, I wonder if we will get ANY supernatural events. Or if it will all just be some the characters acting a little weird, and never explained how or why.
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How will /lisg/ cope if LR Tape 2 is even more boring than Tape 1?
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>>521239858
I'm leaning more towards the latter, but only if the real explanation is disappointing. I'm liking the theory of the Fawn's Rest, and Velvet Cove by extension, being something like Brigadoon but only a few select people are aware of it. If the latest ARG is anything to go by, The Abyss being supernatural in nature is definitely in the running. But the alien stuff e.g. perseid shower, the purple star in chapter 2 etc. and time travel elements really throws curve balls at you.
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>>521240685
I told you guys. If Tape 2 doesn't ramp things up, I'm going to switch to the biggest hater. They better deliver the goods. I'll grant that there are probably still a couple more boring reminiscing scenes to get through in the beginning of Tape 2. But beyond that, they really need to do a lot more with the story.
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>>521240685
my only hope if that happens is that photo mode can be utilized better in the '22 parts
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>>521239094
Well, with Outer Wilds there is a lot more downtime and no spoken dialogue, so that's not as bad as having that shit going on over a spoken dialogue driven game IMO. It still does seem like it would fuck up the atmosphere though, you're right.
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>>521199702
Wait when did Ashly Burch get involved or did you mean Aysha
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>>521241294
To be fair, he was stuck. But I've been in these situations. The sound alerts aren't going to be paused when he's unstuck. They'll continue playing even over really good moments. So I left before it made me angry.
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>>521241724
Today

https://www.thegamer.com/life-is-strange-double-exposure-chloe-ashly-burch-might-not-have-written-max-breakup-infamous-fan-reaction-baftas-interview/
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>>521232435
Wtf Chloe
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>>521193034
Okay reading this here's the big problem for part 2

Nobody buys the break up. The issue I will say over and over is that the problem isn't even they broke up it's how they did it. A break up through a letter is about as lazy as you can get. De2 is not going to work if Max and Chloe are just reconnecting and getting back together because it's only going to further canonize a break up that none of us believed ever made sense

They only have one way out. The break up has to have a twist. Maybe that is Safi, maybe another Max fucked things up, maybe Max wakes up from a coma I don't care how they do it. But the break up was so lazy and embarrassing they didn't even write Chloe new dialogue other than to hint Safi did it lmao so they are stuck. If the break up makes no sense lean into that and make that the twist

De2 is already dead if they don't do that
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>>521241025
We will know in 5 days. I'm really hopeful and excited but at the same time I know there is a non-zero chance they will fuck it up.

But if they do this well, this may replace LiS1 as my favorite of these types of games. Here's hoping.
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>>521244424
>Max wakes up from coma

Very stupid plot twist might be the solution, what a time to be alive
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>>521244774
I'm partly confident but not too much over my head. I think they will deliver, but I don't expect something as overly bombastic as LiS2 endings, hopefully it can be something worth replaying for.
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>>521245426
I've considered replaying and romancing someone other than Kat but I have a feeling the endings will involve Kat's outcome and won't involve the other two so your relationship with Kat might be the most meaningful one, but we will see. For now though I'm avoiding replaying anything. I want to keep my choices kosher for Tape 2 and only replay after I've finished it at least once.
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She really did make Aysha spill the beans lmao
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>>521244848
Lmao for real

The big issue is the break up isn't something anybody buys. We all know Chloe wouldn't abandon Max via a letter. She doesn't even talk to Max about their relationship issues. Max can't remember doing so anyway. It's dumb as hell. No matter what angle you look at it breaking the girls up via a letter is stupid. Nobody fucking buys it

So moving forward without a twist to the break up would be killing part 2. Will some fans be happy to get anything? Yeah. But most will be making fun of the break up and all the new bad canon to come from something that never made sense from part 1 if they play it straight

So they need a twist. It was all a coma, Evil Max, Safi all along, whatever it is they have to do it to save part 2 and redeem part 1 a little
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>>521246596
I just wish aysha would have shared more. What are the plot details? I am dying to know why the break up was written the way it was did they have a twist in mind or was that the best they could come up with a break up from a letter lol
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>>521238979
i unironically can't stand either of their work for that exact reason



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