#1000 Still no Lacrima Edition Previous: >>520968893Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel is an online multiplayer videogame using the Master Rule Format>Offline Modhttps://github.com/pixeltris/YgoMaster>Other Modshttps://www.nexusmods.com/yugiohmasterduel/mods/>Current- Selection Pack: Onslaught of Emperors- new Vaalmonica, Centurion and Memento Secret Packs- Rental Competition - Onslaught of Emperors (10 April - 14 April)>In this event, Duels are played with Loaner Decks with cards from the Selection Pack "Onslaught of Emperors>UpcomingTBDUseful resources for info on Decklists, Events, etc.>YGOPro Deckhttps://ygoprodeck.com/category/master-duel-decks/>Game8 (Outdated info, but has some useful combos)https://game8.co/games/Yu-Gi-Oh-Master-Duel>Road of the Kinghttps://roadoftheking.com/>Appmedia (only in Jap)https://appmedia.jp/master_duel>List of Secret Packshttps://yugipedia.com/wiki/Secret_Pack>Official Master Duel Pagehttps://www.konami.com/yugioh/masterduel/en/>Yu-Gi-Oh! Probability Calculatorhttps://www.yugioh.party/>Small World Helphttps://small-world.yugioh-api.com/resolve>Master Duel Metahttps://www.masterduelmeta.com/
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>>521174395but think of the poor oppressed players going second only having 3 draws off their maxx c against one negate...
The hand stacking in favor of Japs is so fucking blatant now.
since golden sarc is just a tenpai extender, when will it be banned? you banned 2 sangen and they just replaced them, what was the point.
>fuwalos>fuwalos>ash>imperm>fuwalos>ash>impermnice event
>>521175624>he still doesn't get that all the tenpai hits never did anything and will never do anything and that you can't fucking hit the consistecy of a fire deck
I just want a Centurion card
>they ALL still open sangen and paidrawhy is MD so fucking biased towards tenpai?
not even 10 posts in and the riggedschizos appear
>>521176669t. shitterjap.
>>521176669>t. trannypaifag
new pack is so shit. just craft primites and necroquip
it do be like that
Listening to metal and swinging with big monsters is a really addictive way to veg out and lose out on my life.
>>521177203All the primites are UR though
>>521177576what deck?
>>521177798Does any good deck swing with big monsters?Flame swordsman.
>>521177868i thought it was gonna be blue eyes
>summoning tyrant under skill drain and then use ultimate creature in gy to make its effect live once againwell played
>>521177975Oh, yeah I guess that deck is good now.
do i get the extra dust after i dismantled it or is it still not here yet?
>>521178221you get it on dismantle
>>521178274thank youforgive my retardation, it's just a bit misleading, but i really should've tried to open the dismantling window first
So can I craft 3 Beatrice right now and get the full refund?
>>521178514apparently
this is gonna be a real pain to do since people just scoops before i even enter battle phase
>>521178623Yeah it works, I just crafted 1 Beatrice at a time and dismantled until I hit the 3/3 limitno glossy or royal luck for me
>>521179215I can't even get the damn "Destroy Card" or "Do some Fusions" dailies done sometimes because every match gets scooped right after the handtrap jousting into first card resolution
8k gems for ONE (1) Imperial DragonHad to craft the rest of Primite fucking hell
>>521179436told ya >>521177203
This game is absolutely miserable to play, holy fuck. What went wrong?
Currently hardstuck in platinum facing endless BEWD/Centurion/white forest/Fiendsmith. How's diamond and master?
>>521180201Because konmai makes more money with paper.
>>521180201I have been trying ever since maintenance ended to get one good game. Not even one turn was fun.
>>521180201You played ranked.
On the one hand I like how the tryout duel has loaners for the 3 new decks in the current selection pack. But on the other hand, would it fucking kill Konami to include some basic instructions so I know how to play the fucking deck? i can't tell if these loaners suck or of I'm misplaying. Like, is the memento loaner THIS fucking limited?
>>521176361Arc-V lmao
>>521180410Is Centurion blazar turbo that popular?
>>521180201I'm having a lot of fun playing Primite BE though
>>521180757Just play the Centurion one, it's unbeatable when it gets going and easily plays through Fuwa.
Damn
>>521180990The other problem is that i don't know how to play these decks so...
they've taken 7500 gems from me now
>>521181208If you don't want to learn the new 1 card combo (still extremely linear btw) you can just do the standard Auxila search Phalanx set pass and set up Blazar on the opponent's turn and win.
I stopped playing for a while around the time Tenpai was popping off. Is Lab still good/playable?
>>521181331I'm playing Memento mate. Like, I specifically mentioned memento in my original post. The centurion loaner having good shit like baronne is really unfair, honestly. I honestly can't tell if the centurion deck is just way better or if memento is just fucking BAD
>>521181454SEC lab is probably the best version of lab right now
>>521181508I know, but I don't know how to play Memento either so I just picked Centurion and steamrolled everyone.Maybe it really is a bad Memento build.
ghost ogre feet when
>>521181454Lab is never unplayable because you can adjust your trap lineups based on the meta.
Why is it that sometimes you can click 3 cards in a row and that's your selection for an effect, but sometimes you need to select one card and confirm and then another card and confirm and ANOTHER card and confirm? The second way really fucking eats into your timer and it sucks
>>521181709It depends on the card. I don't know why they coded it like that.
I gotta be honest this tryout duel isn't convincing me to roll this pack. I might use my gems for Lab instead or something because these cards kinda fucking suck
Is EVERYONE playing fucking centurion? I guess we know what the objectively best fucking loaner is
>>521181808Yeah because this is actually a Primite pack and they didn't put it in the loaner because it's way above everything else in it.
>>521181891...Okay but why would you not make a loaner to shill the cards you want to advertise then?>its too strongWouldn't that convince MORE people they have to pull?
>>521180531I'm actually shocked people sat down and wasted their weekend and PAID MONEY to play this crap on paper.
literally what am I supposed to do against those block dragon decks? they either start with or end on a fucking barrier statue
>centurion opponent timed out playing on my turn>twiceIf it happens a third time I'm done with this event I guess?
>majespecter ryu and masquerade the tax dragon from the free vaal packit's okay I guess, would have preferred a selettrice
>>521181973Because they know people are going to pull for Primite regardless. They want to shill the less known decks to bait people into pulling for something other than the Primite cards.
>>521182176Its not working though, it makes me not want to pull at ALL now
What do you even do?
>>521182258Jut wait until you face Primite BE on ranked.
People say memento won some paper tournament but fucking hot? This deck SUCKS and its hugely contingent on whether or not you get the stupid big guy or not. And even if you do it just gets blasted by literally any effect, dies, and then you're fucked.
it's the easiest one to play and people already know how it works (outside of the new support) because of the link/fusion/synchro event a couple months agonobody's learning a new deck they're not interested in for 3 games and a free pack
>>521182354meant for >>521181879
Wait the vaal loaner has fiendsmith and people STILL choose to play centurion? I literally did not even realise vaal was an option until I checked the other decks, am i the only fucker who is going to try it? Of the 5 matches I've had, 5 are Centurion decks.
is the centurion loaner basically just click yellow?
>>521182354Yeah well I don't know how to play centurion and I get the feeling its going to be very frustrating to learn on the fly so I'll just skip it. If its not even good and people just use it because they know how to pilot it, I guess I don't need to bother right?
>>521182335You don't even play this guy btw.You play Beryl, Lode, and loop Drill Beam until your opponent dies.
>>521182427>thinking fiendslop is such a huge advantage
oh boy I heckin love handtrap tryout
>try the new vaal loaner>it's literally just bagooska passWhat the fuck does the new support even do
>>521182816Like seriously what's the point. Should I just use my saved gems for Lab secret pack or something?
Yeah, I'm not having any fun today. I've been on a massive losing streak and gone down two ranks and I'm sick of sitting through endless Centurion combos with constantly lousy hands.Taking the day off.
>>521182680I mean I'm finally beating the centurion loaner because of it
hoping people just scoop at fiendsmith because I don't know how to play this shit
>>521183454they 100% just scoop at fiendsmith
From now on I will only do 100 pulls. They give me more URs than the 1000 pulls.
I don't see why Blue-Eyes want to play Primite at all
URRRRGHHH I GUESS I'll try the centurion loaner ONCE just to give it a fair shot. I'm totally expecting to immediately go second, the opponent to have fuwalos and I can't do dick diddly because they went first with centurion and got the stupid fucking crimson dragon out
>>521182950>zero (0) counters on either scale>didn’t go into fiendsmith plays with archetypal access to a light fiend>”why deck no work???”If you bricked tough shit it happens if not learn the plays
>>521183701Anon then went on to win his try out games and enjoy the deck.
>>521183701If they're going first with fuwalos, that's good for you
>>521183701YOU WILL NEVER GUESS WHAT HAPPENED>>521183741The only spell I had was invitare and Seletricce got impermed. The only thing I could do was get the second selettrice out with invitare and then xyz into bagooska. Like, fuck else was I going to do?>Why didn't you go for fiendsmith first?I drew the devil pend scale and pitched my in-hand selettrice to get the light fiend angel as my pend scale. At no point was I able to go into requiem.
>chink just ashes and fuwas meamazing event
>>521183926>sub-rogue shitdeck has a bad endboard given a bad starting hand and disruption on your only searchShocking anon, just shocking
>>521183701Centurion can set up Blazar + Phalanx by only giving 1 card to your opponent under Fuwa.
>>521184281>Why didn't you just use fiendsmith?>Because this happened>WELL FUCK YOU, SKILL ISSUEWhat the fuck is your problem lmao
>Activate bonfire>Opponent ashes it>I have called by but decide to let it through>Normal summon Primera>Opponent scoopsI've played 3 games of centurion and I haven't made a single synchro. I'm still about to beat the event though, but my god people are so fucking mindbroken about this deck I can't even get the opportunity to practice it.Is it really THAT good? Blazar sucks and all but its literally one negate.
>win coin toss>[No response from server]Fuck you too chink
>>521184537If they get Blazar out you HAVE to OTK them or you lose the grindgame.That thing is impossible to out in the event.
what does a blue eyes primite list look like for master duel?
she's 1
>>521184662>grind gameFuck are you talking about? Centurion just OTKs you on their next turn because they summon big dick synchros and don't give a shit
I heckin love centurion.event
>normal summon primera>get impermed>well that's it pass turn>opponent has drawn like 3 starter spells and primeraRigged.
>>521184376>”wow this deck blows”>did you try so and so>”I couldn’t because I had a bad hand”>such is life these things happen>”WOW HECKIN RUDE OF YOU”What’s yours
Unironically how do you synchro with centurion? I feel like I'm being GROSSLY unlucky with no monster hands and the opponent always having hand traps when I do, but I literally can't do more than normal summon primera pass. Maybe I get to set the trap that banishes a monster sometimes.
>>521184820Blazar is a negate every turn.I'm talking about a scenario if you don't OTK them but can still set up a board you're still guaranteed to lose because Blazar will just destroy you every turn with 0 way to interact with it.
Master Duel should add an option where, after the coin flip, it gives you the choice to immediately surrender and not even bother trying to load the game if you lost.
>>521185068Its still a single negate, who cares?>But its EVERY TURNYeah welcome to Yugioh
>>521185167just go 2nd?
vaalmonica is fucking dogshit
This deck always has the funniest shit happen to it.
>>521185281Blazar banishing itself for cost makes it almost impossible to out.I know people meme about "yugioh only lasts 3 turns xd" but grind games sometimes still happen in this game and Blazar being a negate that's impossible to out makes it one of the strongest cards in a grind games.
>every chinkname simply has ash + impermebin
Wait is primera the ONLY tuner? How the fuck does this deck function?
>>521185167We can already streamline it further, instead of opening MD at all you can flip a coin in real life and simply imagine you FTK’d an opponent or whatever every time it lands heads.
I've lost 1-6 games with centurion, why does it work for everyone else but me? Its not even skill issue, the game just rigs my hand to be like 3 copies of Ash and 2 copies of Fuwalos going first. The one game I did win, the opponent immediately scooped when i went first and normal summoned primera. When do I get to PLAY centurion?
>>521185713Atrii is also another tuner now. You also have many was to bring out Primera so it really isn't a issue
Thanks, Konami
>>521185713They have Atri now but killing Primera still wins you the game 90% of the time.
>the hit did nothing to tenpai>still see it as regularly as it was first releasedfucking joke.
ive been seeing alot of blue eyes today. so much more fun than playing vs snakes.
>>521182335my god what a beautiful art
Someone explain this to me>Your LP is lower than the opponent's>Pin Baller says "if your LP are lower than your opponent's, the effect's activation and effect cannot be negated">Effect Veiler is a card that negates an effect>Apparently it will negate Pin Baller, despite the anti-negation effect it hasWhat the fuck? Does it negate the effect to not be negated by effects? I'd get it if it was like solemn and you're negating the summon but this is just effect veiler.
>>521187201Like seriously what the fuck is this? I can only post one image at a time and it was too big to fit on the previous screenshot. How the fuck do you explain this?>The anti-negation effect prevented effect veiler from negating the effect>effect veiler negates the effect anywayWhat the ACTUAL fuck?
Most games have events that make you excited and want to play more. Why the fuck does every event in master duel suck and make me want to quit?
I just saw Block Dragon summon himself twice and add 3 cards and turned a situation with no plays into something else entirely. Was this really fucking needed?
It's 11:42pm here. I skipped eating dinner for this.
>>521187367It's due to the funky wording I think.Since pin baller states that the prior activation/effect cannot be negated, that part goes through, but since Veiler is a continuous effect, it is then negated in post.If Pin Baller had stated: >While your LP is lower than your opponent's: This card's effects cannot be negated.It would've worked out fine, but because it says:>You can only use the previous effect of "Gold Pride - Pin Baller" once per turn, also, if your LP are lower than your opponent's, the effect's activation and effect cannot be negated.It means that the on use effect has gone through, and is then negated in post without protection, thus removing the effect that turns the cards into equips and destroying them.I think. Honestly monster equipping effects can be funky, but that wording is a one of a kind nightmare.
>>521187201>the effect's activation and effect cannot be negatedTrue BUT effect veiler negates the monster, once it resolves, the monster itself will be negated because its own effect does not protect the card from negations, just its own effect
>>521187367Think of it like this, pin baller cannot be negated by cards like Baronne because Baronne only negates 1 specific effect instead of negating the whole card like Imperm, Veiler, or Desirae for example.
>>521188119But surely "cannot the effect" means that even after the activation, it should still have the effect go through? Otherwise what's the point? I think I'd understand it was like... I dunno, called by or something since it kind of stops the effect even before a monster hits the field?>>521188283>>521188359But the effect is on the card, I seriously don't get the difference. That's like saying "I didn't stab YOU I just stabbed your chest"
>Decide to use my 200+ legacy pack ticketsMy god. It's a sign. I should make a jar mill deck.
traptrix niggers will see this and go "umf so fucking sexy"
>>521188432Consider the equipping effect as something that triggers then becomes continuous, since the whole card is negated, its continuous effect won't work either, the monster in this case can't hold the cards equiped to it and they are destroyed.
>>521188770If the equppng effect is continuous, and the effect can't be negated, that really feels like it should survive effect veiler?
>>521185713copes with a bunch of hand traps
>>521188731Imagine defanging that thing.The twitching membranes would keep trying to clamp down and bite without the teeth, since it's a mindless plant, and would end up just giving you a tight fucking gumjob.10/10 made to be a pussy.
added two dd crows just for block dragon
>>521189079People aren't actually playing adamancipators again, are they?
>>521189178they are
>>521188878Bro, the same thing happens to borreload, if you negate the card it will lose its equip
>>521189079Bro just negate the gallant graniteJust maxx c themJust fuwa themThe deck is exactly like Spyral, unbeatable if it gets going but dies to a lot of handtraps and can't play under Maxx C/Fuwa
>>521188878The effect saying it can't be negated is also negated by veiler.The same thing applies when Imperming Schuberta
>>521188912Wait, voiceless voice and ritual beasts are that good? Why the fuck do i never see them then? Why is the deck popularity so low? Ritual Beast has fucking great going first AND second rates but its only at 0.8 fucking percent popularity?! Why? Is it one of those "snowballs like fucking hell if it works, dies immediately if you hand trap it" kind of decks or something?I'm sitting on a bunch of gems and I don't really feel like pulling two selection packs to build BEWD-Primite. Are any of these worth pulling for? I know not all of them have secret packs yet but Maliss/Ryzeal isn't going to be for a while. Got any recommendations?
>>521189340>Bro just negate the gallant granitethey now make curious using milleniums
>>521189440...But the effect literally says it can't be negated. How are you negating the thing that says it can't be negated? I don't understand, that's like saying>Well, this tower says its unaffected by other card effects>I'll Veiler it and it will negate its effect to be unaffected by other card effectsLike why doesn't that work then?
>>521189676Because it only protects that specific effect instead of protecting the whole card like PEP does.
>>521189553VV is pretty good here in MD, the deck can brick but it's pretty resilientRB is boring to play, ignores all banishment floodgates and makes it plus but yes, it's pretty boring and some people just scoop against it, it takes too much time looping the bird and sometimes ends on... literally NOTHING
>>521189676Yugioh is a game of very precise wording.Every effect, cost, activation, name, and protection has precise wording to make it do very precise things.Pinball fuck over there has very bad wording, the wording of his effect making it so only a singular instance is protected rather than it being a blanket continuous protection.This is why is get's 'bypassed', because the wording makes it so it can be. Because the wording is bad.
Holy shit Drill Beam is such a good fucking yugioh card.Why do people only play 1?
>>521190272>hopt>searchable>sets itself from gy each turnTruly a mystery
Is it worth pulling for Primite if I don't want to play Blue-Eyes? What other applications does it have?
>>521189553>VV auto loses to Yubel and SE boards. People mainly use it for farming Tenpai >RB is too hard to learn and boring
>>521191039Primite Fiendsmith with White Duston
>>521191039>Normal monster supportBuilt for plant combo
>>521188912>tenpai only wins 57% of games going secondIt really doesn't feel like it, but its also the most popular deck by far so I assume it means more people playing it leads to more failures?I'm shocked that apparently Centurion is just as good as Yubel. Lab isn't too far away but it doesn't feel close at all. Is centurion ACTUALLY good? I finished the loaner event with a 3-9 score at the end of it and like, yeah sure part of it was that I didn't quite know how to pilot it and its a loaner deck but still... imperm/ash Primera and you're kinda fucking done. I feel like ghost ogre would probably fuck it up too if its set as a trap right? It honestly didn't feel like that good of a deck to me, is it just hard carried by Blazar?
>6k>shark shark shark shark.What the fuck.
>>521192602fark
>>521192656I know right? At least I have enough UR for lode,primus, shleepy, and maybe vararr (yeah, I happen to miss them all)
>>521192602At least you have 3 fucking Beryl be grateful.I also spent 6x and didn't get A SINGLE BERYL OR LORDLY LODE I AM SO FUCKING MAD
>that fucking primite tax>those shitty UR fillersngmi bros...
How the hell is Adamancipator tier 2
>>521193574Curious needs to go
>>521191935Centurion was meta back in the summer, they just delayed their support for too long. Nowadays its objectively worse than BE.
>>521193574because some retard thought it was smart to unban Block Dragon
I tried to play the new cards but instead got matched with 4 stun players in a row...
I like how Primite deals with the stun problem in Blue-Eyes.Last format if your opponent has di-fi up you lose the game on the spot. Now at least you have in-engine out to it.
is it dark magician's time
>>521195849No
>>521195849It's way better with Primite, so if its your petdeck go nuts. It's still not great.
>go against guy named rayexrose>has Sky Striker field, icon, and mate>he's playing Lab with a Fiendsmith packageNot sure if he was trying to mindgame me or if he just has multiple waifus. Either way I bricked like a motherfucker and got my ass beat.
sex with Sky Striker Aces
purrely
oh shit UR from the vaalmonica pack maybe I won't have to craft the new link>treeborn frogI forgot the left half is master pack
>>521184537>opportunity to practicePeople either just play till they get 3 wins to get the pack reward, or keep playing the event to complete the Duel Pass without having to go through ranked.
>>521188432>negate that effectvs >negate that card's effectsveiler works on continuous effects like 'all monsters your opponent controls lose 500 atk' whereas ash blossom only negates the effect of a searchpin baller only prevents ash blossom type negations that try to negate the effect itself whereas veiler as well as something like imperm would negate the entire card it's like targeting vs non-targeting, all a wording thing
I hate this new konami design trend of making effects set cards directly from deck to field just so new decks can play around droll
>>521185713The searchers search the other searchers. Welcome to modern Yugioh.
>negate that is not actually a negate but it changes the effect to something elsename something worse. how the fuck does this shit affect opabinia? i thought opabinia is immune to monster effect.
I'm so happy bros, my Mementos and Centurions didn't get gouged with the new support
>>521200458That's why you should be playing ogre instead. They even released a bundle for you retards who still don't get it.
>>521200568It's affecting the monster's effect not the monster
>>521195849>3x3 souls/chaosretard!
What card can search Beryl/Lode?I feel like I need to see those cards more
>>521200568Phantom is bullshit and works on everything. Even shit like RR big bird.
>>521200841Gold Sarc earth dragon ruler.
first tryout dueldidn't draw anything off any of his fuwalos he surrendered
>>521201234Terrifying
>>521201234average chink hand
so uhwhat happens to pin baller that got veilereddoes the selected monsters go to gy after getting equipped and failing, or does it never get equipped at all and just stay as is
>>521201641>veiler resolves>negates pinball>pinball effect resolves thanks to the other effect covering it>equips the cardsAnd since pinball is negated now, the equiped cards are destroyed and sent to the GY
https://www.yugiohmeta.com/top-decks/ycs-houston/memento/pascal-manigat/9iDVoso can you just put this deck into MD and it'll do alright?
>>521202224Meme-ento was already rogue, it's tier 1 now
Is Primite Imperial Dragon used on anything?
>>521202224That deck specifically is designed to beat Ryzeal, you probably don't want to play the rank three stuff.
>>521201953ok, thank youthe answer in >>521187201 is a bit vague and heck, you can even say that they did get equipped for a brief momentthough now that i see the other answer again, won't the answer "it does not have its effects negated and the 2 cards are not equipped" kinda fits more then? they're really being deliberately confusing
>>521202475you think so? i feel like it's still decent to play around nib and shit
>dragolithia kunzite didn't make it to the packthere goes my grass slop
>crafting SRs for free pack pulls>get thisfug
I request the Centurion slop lists
>>5212031743 of every centurion card 1 baronne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkUUm0zDLYKonami will kick all euros off of master duel because of this. Bye josh, bye farfa!
>>521203150I got a glossy of that new centurion UR with mine
>>521203174Sorry, I deleted my blind second resonator-ion list to make room for a Dork World handloop list. Can't find my screencaps of it now.
bye bitch
how good is Rikka in current meta?
>>521202501Well, if the game states it like that it just means that we are wrong and the cards never equip because the whole card is negated at resolution (the activation goes through)
>>521203872Pure rikka can still go to m1 with some effort, it can play impulse too, idk about plant slop
>>521204134it seems the explanation here >>521187367 fits what you said would happen tho (the monsters get equipped and then destroyed)so i guess they're just being a bitch and intentionally trying to trip you with the way they worded the answer
guardian chimera is such a ridiculous card. chiemra has been a terrible addition to this game.
>lost because the fucking chimera monster ripped off my starter againwhy the fuck is this allowed
>>521200712what the fuck does that mean? what about a negate? doesn't it affect the effect and not the monster?
i don't run fiendsmith, so it's ok to dust this right? no other decks really use it?
>>521206176CL1: Activate OpabiniaCL2: Veiler targeting OpabiniaResolutionCL2: "Negate this monster's effects" resolves but does nothing due to Opabinia's protectionCL1: Opabinia's effect resolvesNow with Phantom of YubelCL1: Activate Opabinia's effect "add 1 "Paleozoic" Trap Card from your Deck to your hand"CL2: Chain Phantom of YubelResolutionCL2: The effect in CL1: now reads "Your opponent destroys 1 "Yubel" monster in their hand, Deck, or field".CL1: "Your opponent destroys 1 "Yubel" monster in their hand, Deck, or field"." resolves since it wasn't negated
>>521206673It sees usage in top decks of Ryzeal, Tenpai, Yubel, Tearlaments
>>521206673Feel free to dust it if you want, it's a great card but unusable outside of FS for the most part>>521207401In FS variants, which he just said he doesn't run
>>521207097but how??? you are still affecting the card. the effect text is a part of the card. i can understand shit affecting an xyz material on unaffected xyz monster since xyz material and the xyz monster are different entities. but affecting the effect text but not the card itself is just reaching.i fucking hate this garbage.
So does vaalmonica use varar or should i craft necroquip instead? 55 UR dust, 6 gems btw.
>>521209273varar is fun but it's an awkward way of doing angel link 1 job worseso no, if you want your best chance at winning with vaalmonica you straight up dont include varar in your extra deck
>>521207097With that kind of reasoning, you can even mental gymnastics into saying that Ash is affecting the effect and not the monster's itself and thus can still negate, let's say, Misc-protected dinoShits confusing man
negate and banish is really fucking huge... why did they have to do it.
are the loaner decks close to how people actually play Vaalmonica and Centurion? Thinking about trying to make both decks because they're neat.
>think the opponent has nothing to do to get the second body for slopsmith>necroequipthe game gets worse and fucking worse with each release
How expensive is a SExosister deck?
>>521210406It's bait to make you buy packs.
>>521210734and they're still missing main deck lacrima...
>opp spends 10 minutes banishing my hand except 1 card with trishula six samurai loop>ends on 4 mat apollo>top deck imperm>normal summon my starter >scoop like a bitchfuck you maimai get shamed for wasting both our times
>>521211056so the decks aren't accurate or what?
Where the FUCK is Lacrima and Agnus Dei?>>521210812not that expensive really but they need a few copies of their URs
>>521211953The decks may be well built or not, but Centurion, Vaalmonica, and Memento will perform differently in the loaner event against each other than they will in a ranked environment against Snake Eyes, Tenpai, Yubel, Millennium, etc.
>>5212108123 mikailis, 3 marthas, 2-3 magnificas and maybe 0-3 suckytamas. all URs
>>521212843You forgot seventh tachyon
>>521212461Oh that's fine. I built weather painter and madolche recently so I don't particularly care how garbage a deck is
>>521209692Thought so, i read the card and thought "sweet, if you weren't able to get 3 counters on dimonno or dump rhythm because you drowned in handtraps, now the deck can sit on a link that does something", but she asks for a vaalmonica LINK as material, and her effects are nothing special either: a shitty solemn that probably doesn't matter when it's time to swing, and duralume's except she doesn't pop cards and needs the onaholes and selettrice on field to get more than 1 hit in. I'll still craft one when i have the dust, she's cute.
>>521184723I have this
>>521208943its not, because youre affecting the effect, not the card, like you can dodge skill drain if you move the card to the grave or banishment, you cannot dodge an ash blossom
primite dark magician time
>>521215380does that actually do anything
Handtraps have betrayed us.I wonder what the win rate is for someone who goes first and opens 1-3 hand traps.My last 5 losses have been because I go second, break a board and then when I finally put a play through they reveal they had 2 hand traps.
any good insect deck with all the "C"'s?
did I just miss the anni login rewards by one day?
wanted to try a non blue eyes primite build and saw a list long while ago, but it was before SUDA. tweaked it, and suggestions on how to improve it?
1000 gems well spent im fucking broke now
why did they put vaalmonica in the duel trial when half of the pack consists of sharkshit??
>>521216910They needed a fiendsmith deck to sell Necroquip.
ENTER
>>521212370>>521212843I might try to make the deck then.Problem is that I dunno when Zero, Amatsu and Lemnis Gate are gonna come out and I'm pretty fucking sure they'll all be URs.
>>5212178632000% they will be URs but they're like over a year away unless they release them early
>>521215872no, because most "C"'s are bad, retaliating is the second best one and most people can get around the others, because its a really standard insect engine with reso, because aside from retal and maxx, youre never going to use flying or shiny black, and the rest are super match up dependent which is not a good situation to be in blind, and its more than likely theyre going to have the out because you have no protection; you can just beat over confronting, most people have generic links so contact helps your opponent, and most cards can remove sneaky or are immune to destruction
I got 3x of theia thanks konami
>>521179371I have 2 days trying to destroy five cards. Jesus should've built Yubel or Unchained >>521180702People scoop faster in casual for some unholy reason
>>521219509of course people scoop faster in casual there's no reason to stick to a game if you can't lost rank
>>521180757EDOPRODOPRO
>>521181562What if I'm to retarded to use SEC?
thank god he was stupider than i
I'm fucking bricking every blue eyes gameI fell for the meme I want my UR back
>>521220813skull issue
>>521220813OHNONONONONO
>>521210812Very. One of the most expensive archetypes in the game for how weak they are. At minimum you need 3x Martha, 3x Pax, 3x Mikailis, 2x Magnifica. You also want 2~3x Sakitami, and 3x Seventh Tachyon.
>>521220813KWAB
>>521220813bait used to be believable
Would Necroquip even be good for my deck? I guess it's another body in the gy I can banish for Aerial Eater, but my extra deck is already kind of full of engine unless I drop millenium & doomed dragon.
>rank up game>won the coinflip>connection issue>a lossBLATANT CHEATING
>>521214575Dem UR tax god damn
>>521220813>he rolleded for brick eyes
Does necroquip make FS musketeer better or do I still need to wait for lacrama?
>>521185167I just said fuck it and focus on going second decks or add enough going second cards to my going first decks that it works out
>>521221705it's not even that bad desu
>>521221919Necroquip is good but you need to run M7 with her and they'll both be replaced once Lacrima releases in a month or two.
>>521176669>t. tear nigger faggot
>want to try out a new more or less competitive deck>need to craft about 10-15 URs on every option availableholy fuck
>>521221669what bait retard I have 15 starters but I never see them and when I do boom opponent has the perfect response, I should have saved for Ryzeal
>>521222294Lacrima doesn't replace Necroquip, it supplements it
>>521218206I wish Konami would make "C" a full archetype. the theme of a neet fighting insects in his fun is just too fucking cool
>>521220813>15 one card starters (with wishes being the only with a cost)>still brickingBased retard, i bet you're running jet and rumble too. Stop shitting up a hyper consistent deck with meme win more cards.
>>521222294Ok not crafting rn then I'll just wait
>>521220813nu blue eyes has so many starters, even more now with primitehow are you bricking
>hyper consistent deck yep found the konami shill, don't fall for the meme like I did
>>521222978*in his home
had too add two droplets so i can dodge trannymite
Does vaalmonica work with millenium
>Just lost my 17th coin flip in a rowGo fuck yourself Konami, I'm not building boring ass BE.
>>521223957There's no reason it wouldn't, but all it gives you is a couple extra bodies. Vaalmonica engine is pretty big so you'll have to cut handtraps for it.
Is pure Vaalmonica good?
>50 card deck>drew the exact card I neededI chink'd
>>521224662Not really. The event loaner is like 90% power if you want to try it out.
>>521224662no variation of vaalmonica is good
don't be distracted by Selettrice's cuteness the deck is dogshit
>blue eyes still has unreleased cardsMAKE IT STOP
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE BLUE JET OR YOUR DECK WITH PRIMITE WILL BRICK OKAY!!111??
Jet or no Jet? I will wait for HIS teachings to decide
Fuck you Komoney I just care about primite cards and you know it
>>521227449Wait for HIS tournament then yoink the best performing deck
Why yes I am a slop enjoyer
>>521227601This is the way
>drillbeam banished super ancient organism and tcboooh my god I'm in love already, stun shit get the fuck out of my way
ATTENTION GAMBLERS: The following SRs from the new secret packs are in 2-3 secret packs. Craft them and if you've never crafted an SR/UR from their packs you'll get to open those packs once for free.>Thunder Dragondark: Memento pack and Thunder Dragon pack>Dinomight Powerload, the Dracoslayer: Vaalmonica pack and True King pack>>>Full Armored Black Ray Lancer<<< Armored Xyz pack, Sharks pack, AND the Umi packGood luck converting extra SR points into URs.
>>521227653Remove the fiendsmith shit and add a Kash engine instead, it works a lot better with centurion.
>another 1 pack pull>another UREVERYONE SHOULD PULL 1 PACK AND NOT 101 NOT 10
>>521227864Thank you friend
>>521228227that's real stupid
>>521227653>2 archetype deck>slop
>>521227449>>521227601>>521227702Based
>Memento needs 3 Goblin Biker Grand Breakout there goes any interest I had in the deck
I got royallly fucked by the selection pack so I quelled my anger by crafting this royalpottery
>>521227864Very neat. Is there a list of cards like this?
>login>queue up>illegal deck>beatrice is deadwhat now combo fags? i feel like beatrice death is the end of this deck consistency
>>521229052>I quelled my angerwhy do you type like a pompous faggot?
>>521229293https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/guides/2024/sr-crafting-guideLast updated in December but there haven't been many secret pack changes since then so it should be good.
>>521229427You've got enough bodies with millennium that you can just use Curious instead. Banning Betty only hurts the Azamina version of the deck which was already the weaker one.
>>521229293there is on reddit but its like 2 years out of datei wanted to make an automated tool for it but the datascraping tools on ygoprodeck aren't good for it
>>521229427Blow your brains out
>>521229427Either cut Millennium for Azamina or gamble on the slightly >50% chance that Zombie Vampire gets you one. Funnily enough Zombie Vampire becomes far more reliable a starter the more people are playing the deck.
>>521228941how do goblins and memento even work together?i was watching replays and they use breakout but have no goblins?
>>521229427Of course it's dead retard, the point of millenium engine is that it's full fiendsmith/SE combo thanks to beatrice.You're supposed to play Azamina stuff now as intended.>>521229652Complete bullshit, the Millenium engine was better than Azamina for sure but the loss of beatrice doesn't do shit for the Azamina variant whereas it kills the millenium one.>CuriousMassive cope.
so many going first decks on ladder after the tenpai hit I'm temted to play sky striker tenpai
>>521229934They do have a goblin.
>>521227449it doesn't hurt in any way
>>521229427You make apollousa instead
>>521230382Which one?
>>521229934>No goblinsCheck again. Grand Breakout can summon any GOBLIN card, not just Goblin Bikers. Meaning it could theoretically get Goblin Attack Force or Goblindburg. Memento plays it to have a way to dodge cards like imperm and get to their own in-archetype Goblin. It's usefulness is debatable but not zero.
>>521230502Mementotlan Goblin
>>521229934There is a memento card with goblin in the name so it’s a bridge to that card
>>521220813>he boughted brick-eyes + primite taxlmaoing@u
>got a circular from the master packsuh oh is it time to cyberse slop
Can primite cards really be considered "starters" when they end on seals pass?Oh and drillbeam I guess :^)
>>521230505Its usefulness isn't debatable. Goblin is a one card starter. It's absolutely usable, but it's debatable whether you really want to go all in and run 3 copies or run a Goblin Biker package to search it.TCG builds like to run 3 Breakout because there's no Maxx C there so they can go full retard on combos thankfully Memento is pretty good into Mulcharmies but OCG decks usually run 0 or 1 copies. Also the deck has been explored much further in the OCG.It's unclear what the best MD list will be mainly because we have Elf legal, and at least pre-support, that made Memento's endboards a lot stronger since you could delay using Ghattic's recycle effect until after you sent something else off of Goblin and also Elf is just a good endboard piece in the deck for the protection+extra material for IP.
>>521231168All memento cards should look like this
>>521229850dude i genuinely regert crafting the azmina engine that shit felt so ass to play i really don't want to go back to it
>>521231343You mean like THIS
I am scooping to all these memento retards I will not read these fucking cards get maxx c or droll or I quit
>>521231000no they aren't you still need sage, maiden,etc. people here fell for the brick eyes meme
>>521231000ok but what is your response to that?
>>521231612They don't know what their cards do either. People legitimately thought the deck was Combined Creation pass because nobody on ladder knows how to do the combos correctly.
>>521231731called by and mst
>>521231795ggs, well played
koa'ki meiru drago summon off sealsGOD primite chad set four pass btw
>>521231763>People legitimately thought the deck was Combined Creation passIsn't that what Memeno ends on?
ogre on the true light is pretty funny
are we admandilating now sneak eyes bros?
>troonmento players thinking that their deck is going to be the same here in MDNah man, how many barrier stun players did you meet in paper?
>>521232660lollmao
boooring... new event when? not grinding ranked until the last daysmeanwhile back to SMT5
How do I not lose to called by on Spirit Dragon as a BE player?
>>521232441this is why you wait to activate true light after you make spirit
>>521233464chain the second spirit dragon and make ultimate
HIS tournament is today, right?I'm waiting for it before getting anything, because I want to see how well it does on sweaty duels, and also HIS superb commentary on what to interrupt etc.
>>521233464chain the other spirit ordrillbeam, crossout
>not only do i have ulti-nochi on field for targeting protection, but i also have mudragon on field and literally just called wind with it>mother fucker still tries to veiler cannahawkwhen will they learn
>>521233464ghost belle works for this too I think
>>521233464you activate the first one and then wait on the second oneif they try to use called by on the first one, you just chain the second one to summon the big fag that stops banishingif they have a second called by you're boned pal
FUCK YOU KONAMI I DONT CARE ABOUT MEME-MENTO CARDS GIVE ME PRIMITE YOU FUCKSI have 3 creation kings 6 shleepies and not a single fucking lode or beryl holy fuck kill yourselves slant-eyes jews
Looking good.
>>521233828>>521233942>>521234202Am I always supposed to be making two Spirit Dragons turn one if possible? Sorry I'm still learning the deck
>>521234668Uh where is dark magician and red eyes
>>521193574Millennium engine into curious into block dragon into fiendsmith engine
Have you thanked Diabellstar today?I myself kneel, kowtow and then offer a single tribute (ejaculation) to her everyday as thanks for blessing us with her existence.
>>521234801if possible yes
>>521232126"X pass" implies that that's the only thing you're ending on.
>>521234801if your combo line doesnt get interrupted, always go for both spiritssometimes you just can't though if your opponent has cards
>>521234801yes, your "full" combo now ends on 2 spirit dragons, you do the rest of your combo on your opponent turn
>>521234856FUCKKK just imagine there are two more bricks
The text is wrong no?It should be "for the rest of this turn" instead of "this turn". I don't know what it is about Konami and mistranslating Primite cards but yeah
>>521234856Bro is using a duel link skill to add those
>>521235018>>521235046>>521235071Understood, thanks frens
>>521235401no, it's just a heavier restriction. it means you can't activate them this turn at all, rather than just front load them and then using the spell
>>521226168??? Talking about our backrow bruiser?
>>521235401It doesn't make a difference. It's part of the effect so it only goes into effect after the effect resolves. It'd matter if it said "you cannot activate the effects of special summoned monsters on the turn this effect is activated" which would mean you can't use them before or after.
>>521235675>>521235887lmao
>>521227726Should I play more than 1? lol Seems busted
>>521235763Clearly he means this.
>>521226168Of course it does. It will always have unreleased cards. It has unreleased cards in every format that we just don't know about and will continue to have them until the game shuts down because they're not going to ever stop making them.
>>521235401>>521235675https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=4&cid=20534&request_locale=jaThe ruling states that you can play it after you activate special summoned effects on paper so MD should be the same
>>521235401I was waiting on primite for Phantasm Spiral to make a comeback but all the floodgates are banned so the deck still may not be great
>>521235675...that's not how it works retard>>521235887I suppose you're right, it usually says "you cannot [...] the turn this effect is activated". But it does also usually say "for the rest of the turn after this effect resolves, [...]" for cards like lode.I hate this game so much.
>>521235992beryl makes it reset itself
HE is here and top tier blockdragon HAJIME
>>521236261Yeah it's written a bit weird.
>>521236465why does he always say hajime?
Ryzeal next pack? Fuck the entire meta up?
>>521236643because kill yourself retarded faggot
>>521236643idk i rarely watch his streams
>>521236705depends if they actually put meaningful hits on tenpai
>>521236643It's HIM, please remember for the next time. And Hajime is HIS uncle. Focus anon FOCUS
Is this still not in the game?
>>521236705>>521236921the actual hits need to stop snake eyes, otherwise ryzeal will just be bullied
>>521236705Probably yes, they're milking us with mid-tier decks before they release the tier1 stuff. Ryzeal and Malice are pretty old at this point in the OCG, it's a pretty reasonable guess that the decks are coming in the may and june packs.I think they'll go with Ryzeal next month and Malice in June.
Big...Soft...Yugioh cards...
>>521236643Hajimmy a cute
>>521236705I'd imagine they want to dripfeed out Lacrima first with a less anticipated archetype. Maybe put Ryzeal on the tail-end of the Crossover Breakers cards so that it's then been long enough to give Fiendsmith a minor hit.
NO, YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME PLAY VAALMONICA, THE DECK IS BAD, I DON'T CARE HOW CUTE THE GIRLS IN IT ARE!
>>521237294>b-but Detonator pops your whole field he's so crazy bropeople who think that ryzeal is going to do anything in this format is fucking retarded. md has a crazy high power ceiling, ryzeal just can't compete
>>521236643It means "let's begin" or something
I would like to ask the yugioh veterans in this thread about something, even if it may not be the exact thread for thatWhich console game had that scene where the MC betrays his friends, even causing a former female character to lose her mind over the betrayal ? I think it was one of the Tag Force on the PSP but I'm not sure, I just sorta recall watching a video a long time ago.
>>521237746i legit played against one with my SS tenpai yesterday and lost that guy ended on 3 mat appo bagooska the link 1 and a trap that bounces and that fucking trap actually won him the game it made my droplet effect fizzle do not sleep on these decks most people don't know what they do and it's a big advantage
>>521236465>>521237146>uptick in HIM postshuh? it's not Sunday though???
How are you meant to go into hot red and baronne in blue eyes?
>>521222294>M7What for?Necroquip turns closed moon into any rank 6 by her own already
>>521237689HE unironically knows what HIS audience wants. SHE is the weeb while HE was a normalfag that doesn't watch anime.Yugioh is just another card game to HIM.
>>521238209If I did play vaalmonica, instead of bagooska I'd use the two level 4s to go into full mathmech combo via Alembertian
>>521234891fug... curious is 100% next after beatoriche
You guys told me the new cards would warp the meta but I'm still losing to full snake eyes fiendsmith combo
>>521238882Now you can lose to the occasional Blue-Eyes in between rounds of getting your ass blasted by SE!
I no longer want forbidden droplet banned since I play it
>>521238882no one said thatAt best, Blue Eyes will rise in usage. Once the next banlist fucks up SE, you'll start seeing the impact.Knowing Konami, they'll release Lacrima soon after.
>>521238882It makes blue eyes stronger but they didnt hit snake eyes at all what did you expect
>>521239243>once the next banlist fucks up SELol. Lmao, even.
So does Blue-Eyes just drop Blazar now and try to end on ulti spirit + sifr + drillbeam?
>>521238209>>521237746what the fuck am I even doing?
>>521239863>>fiendslopDon't even bother lmao
it's time
I thought Chimerea let you place from deck, not just field or GY. Why did they make such a cute card only almost good.Still gonna play 1 copy until it bricks me several times in a row then cut it
>>521239863>slopsmith cardsgreat UR dust
>>521237424stop I dont want to make brickmonica
Did you know that a Valmonica player has never actually won a game of Yu-Gi-Oh??
>>521238209What? But we all know that the whole deck is just Bagooska pass. And please do not point out that Zebufera has one of the highest winrates on summon out of all the cards in the game according to Konami's own stats. GOD WHY DID THEY MAKE THE SUPPORT SO SHITTY WHY COULDN'T THEY HAVE JUST GIVEN ONE MORE CARD THAT COMBOS WITH ALL THE OTHERS
>>521240850Vaalmonica is unironically Konami designated to not be good.
>>521237424off-model, you wish she had cans like these
>>521238209The problem with Vaal is that they can blindly just interrupt anything that seems important (the searches, the cards blatantly building up stacks) without knowing what you do and it'll still fuck you up, the best "gotcha" you have is getting someone to attack into the angel scale's ability and then Raigeki'ing them on their turn with the angel link>>521239712Sometimes their backrow might be the BE trap that destroys your shit instead I guess, or Veiler if they searched itIf you're lucky you get both of those and drillbeam
>>521240561That wouldn't fix it, the chain link 2 or higher restriction is stupid.
NEW PACK DAY! Blue-Eyes Primite TOP TIER! $1,000 Tournament Qual!
>>521241153My experience with Vaalmonica is that if you don't brick then they can often play through a surprising amount of hand traps given how many searchers they have if the opponent is just blindly firing them off.But if the opponent knows the deck somewhat then it's really fragile since they can just let you go through the motions of getting your counters then wipe them all out.
>>521241537its blue-eyes everyday for him
>>521241537>that commentKEKW kinda gay tho
HOLY SHITE
Sex with Raye and Roze
>>521241537I kind of hope his blue eyes shit gets absolutely farmed by the dinomorphia guy.
>>521240561Does centurion gameplay change with the new cards or do they just do their same old gameplan better now?
>>521229427tears are using pilgrim reaper and zombie vampire, snake eyes will figure something out.
>adamancipater is already winning tournies as soon as it got freedLMAO, people were saying the deck can't do shit.
What archetypes can you mix with icejades?
>>521242726I saw a bunch of snakeye decks running zombie vampire too
>>521242405The latter. You now get to make Primus before going into Auxilla which gets you Atrii so you get to draw an extra card and have Primus in the GY ready to use her effect. Also this means you can instead of searching a trap with Auxilla, search Wake Up to make a level 4 token, then use Wake Up in the GY to send Phalanx and revive Primus and make Blazar on turn 1 then do another Crimson Dragon on turn 2.Also every time you would summon Primera past turn 1 you can summon Atrii for a draw instead.
It's happening
jesus his pack pulls are so awful i can't even watch
>>521243410makes you want to spend $100 dollars right?
>>521242890ice barrier sort of if you really like water lock
can centurion keep up with the mate decks now or did this support come out too late
God damn he ripped through like 16k gems in 10 minutes
>>521242890You can run Ran Aegerine in any water deck if you want. If you're trying to play Ice Jades themselves then Deep Sea Diva into Primadonna is a "good" starter. Funnily enough you can use them with Egyptian Gods since Egyptian God Slime's summon condition can be reached with their field spell.
>>521243410>-16k>still needs to craftlmaooooo
>>521244154I got a better UR haul from my 5k earlier
SPEND SPEND SPEND
>>521243984Centurion's issue isn't just the strength of Snake Eyes but also that the meta itself shifted from people trying to play hyper consistent "good enough" decks to people either playing Snake Eyes, incredibly sacky floodgate spam+solemn spam decks, or 30 hand traps to counter Snake Eye+10 engine decks.It's fine enough, it'll probably creep back into the MDM tier list's tier 3 for whatever that's worth, but it's still a bad meta for the deck until Snake Eyes dies and everyone goes back to being normal.
blue eyes uses anima now? that's fucked
>>521243109centurion is ass(and that's a good thing)
>Snake Eyes is having sex all over Primite BElmao, nice game Komoney
Mating Pressing Purrely...
>>521244654Think they'll hit OSS or something when Ryzeal releases? I dont think MD ever just murdered a deck before but I can see it happening
>>521244015>>521244154I didn't craft the missing Dominus cards and started pulling from that pack instead and started getting insane UR pull rates.
chance of BE cards getting hit in the future?
>>5212450260%
>check imperial dragon effects>man they are pretty g...>only activate if summoned via tributing
>>521245026We have bigger problems
>>521245006I'm gonna pull from that pack more too, I want the bikers stuff and both dominus cards eventually
is running multiple accounts the normal thing to do if you want to play multiple decks?
>>521239243>Once the next banlist fucks up SE, you'll start seeing the impact.just like the previous banlist did, right?
>>521245312I want Snake Eyes to fuck off and die already
>>521245248you are better off running 1 account and amassing resources over time but if you are fairly new then use a simulator to skip the grind and see if you like the deck first
>>521245026for fucking what? lmao
>died to fucking gem knight FTK>stalled via cook right aftewardswhat the fuck man
>>521245026>ash wishes>their turn endsnot happening
>>521245475which one is the one with the pop out card effects?
>>521244876I think a ban to something like Ash or Oak is more likely. They want people spending resources on OSS and Poplar to play decks like Rescue Ace or Volcanic.
>>521245441bro... we still have tearlaments usable. Snake eyes is at best going a couple tiers down.
>>521245248A lot of people do that as new players but eventually you have enough decks and all the staples on your main so there's little reason to worry about other accounts.
>>521245667There's MDpro or YGOmega
>>521245248if you just started, yeah probablystarting gems and going through solo mode gives so many to being with nowyou could just make 1 account per deck and say that account is just for that 1 deckbut managing multiple accounts sucks, getting pulls on one account that you wanted on another sucks, having to play solo mode more than once sucks, having to play every event/ranked grind multiple times sucks tooimo one account is just better feeling if you can hold out and grind or just spend real money to catch up>>521245667that sounds like md3pro, I think you have to get it from their discord
>>521245774Tear just doesn't function the same way as Snake Eyes. Tear was able to be neutered in a way that left it playable but not consistent enough to be very meta-relevant. In Snake Eyes, any individual card is full combo and it's a compact engine you can pair with 4 other engines. Nothing short of just killing it altogether will ever stop it from being on top
>>521246129you are such a fucking retarded braindead mutt
snake eyes millennium fiendsmith azamina kashtira bystial
>>521246253Nice argument, retard
>>521246359shut up dumbfuck worm. you don't deserve an argument, all you deserve is a bullet to your empty head
>>521246267yummy sloppa that actually does something
>>521246520can you put yummy into that deck? how many tuners does it even have?
>>521246486>>521246359>>521246253>>521246129stop being so aggresive damn its just a kid's card game bro
>>521246486I accept your concession.
>>521246685fuck you>>521246694kill your whole worthless family then yourself
>Tear faggots down playing again
>>521246787>feisty yugioh anonhnnng! Marry me you dirty whore!
>>521246267my soul
>>521246787I've already accepted your concession, you don't need to keep begging me
>>521246858No one downplayed Tear. He was just talking about how Snake Eyes is a deck that only exists to spam out material for generic links so any engine that can also spam out material fills in the gaps for Snake Eyes if they don't totally kill the engine, unlike Tear which is slightly more self-contained.
Gonna be honest bros.Most of the time I don't give a shit one way or another about whatever argument is happening, I just feel like lashing out because you're always instantly mean to me for no reason as well.
>>521247173Stop talking to my crazy. She's mine
>>521247219
>>521214575>no maxx c>no droll>2 nibs>3 fuwasenjoy losing every time you go second
>>521247008no i will only marry Purrely, period.
>>521247219Everyone is nice to me because I am self-evidently a shining font of wisdom.
>>521247219you're a bitch
>>521233464by not even making spirit pajeetonly shit players make synchros with blue eyes before turn 3 (going first) unless absolutely forced into it
>>521247793kys
>>521245884NTA which one would you recommend?
>>521247492nah you are just gay bro
>>521247876Then pucker up 'cause I'm coming in hot.
>>521247219>aloof anon that enjoys being berated hmmmm! C'mere baby
Is vaylantz rogue tier
>>521209692What then fuck is the point of her existence then? Why make new support that osnso bad you wouldn't include it anyway?
>>521247874idk I only play MD. Try both, they're free.
>>521248063>>521248047>haha im so le horny and quirky XD! im so special please pay attention to me!!!go back to whatever subreddit you came crawling out from, worm
>>521248047>>521248063No horny
>>521247219THISIS4CHANYOURETARD
>>521189340You say that but the other day I had an idiot still going under both Fuwalos AND Maxx C
>>521248601>playing hard to get>redirects the topic to reddit>"you worm"shut up crazy skank, that's why I love you
>>521248345Arguably. It got top 100 a couple duelist cups ago so it's probably safe to say that it can compete despite not being meta.
/v/ threads wouldn't be filled with ERP. Why is this the fate of all /vg/ generals?
>>521249284Because generals weren't meant to exist.
>>521193030I spent 9k. I only got Imperial Dragon within 8k gems.
>>521249284Just stop acting so kissable and you won't have anons threatening to kiss you.
>>521249284this is why we need to stop engaging with itjust post HIM and Master Duel shit
>>521249284
>>521248469Konami has decided this archetype to be the designated waifufag petdecker archetype, it's bad, it has dozens of problems built into the cards for no reason despite having no 1 card combo in a format where every deck has 15x 1 card combos that don't even require a normal summon.All of the support is worthless and if someone ever does good with vaal it's because having a single light fiend lets fiendsmith hard carry it.It's mind numbingly depressing to play it and see your 3 card combo die to 1 handtrap while other decks full combo through 3 handtraps.
cute bait
>>521247470ah yes, I actually forgor to put maxx c there, thanks but I still think no droll is fine
Let the cope begin
>>521250381>brainlessly replace beatrice for higher risk much higher reward cardoh no!!!
>>521209273>>521248469You do want to include her. If you can summon Duralume then 90% of the time you can also summon Varar. She helps to OTK through sticky boards that Duralume can't handle on her own, and if you fail the OTK then she's actually useful on the field to interrupt.She's worth the 1 ED slot, the question is whether she's worth the 30 UR tax.
>>521250507Why play tear if not to gamble
>>521249284>>521249587Or actually just start making /v/ Master Duel threads again.
>>521250381>fiendsmith simply Xyz's into chaos rulerwhat could go wrong
If you're already spending 6000 LP to make curious via millennium, what's a good way to make psychic end punisher?
>>521253158One tuner and one non-tuner whose combined levels equal 11
I WILL use Primite Roar + Jerry Beans Man in Goblins and theres nothing you can do to stop me!
>>521253158Normal summon ash
>think about rolling for a new deck>realise it would suck in the current meta>lose all motivation and just keep playing the same decks I always doGame's getting pretty fucking stale. I don't want to spend my gems to make a new deck just to get raped by all the meta again.
>>521253729We're over a fucking year into Snake Eye format I have no idea what they were thinking
>>521250606I just don't think she's that useful. Duralume pops several cards and swings thrice, and you don't need more bodies on field for it. If you do have more bodies on field (the onaholes and engraver), you're better off summoning chaos angel. I'll craft her eventually, but i doubt she'll see any use.
good event pack
>>521249284>/v/ threads wouldn't be filled with ERPsure thing trannyyou have no idea how glad i am that the mods got tired of your spam and banished you here, you get exactly what you deserve you fucking freak
>>521253979Snake Eyes isn't meta in paper right? Its all ryzeal and maliss. What made snake-eyes fall off? Does ryzeal and maliss fucking blow snake-eyes out of the water or is it just ban list hits like whar killed Tear?
>>521254336ez dust
>>521254595they weren't though. Those threads are free from the sex freaks ITT including you
>>521254595
now that the dust has settled, do you still need 3 fuwalos in every deck?
>>521254885The banlistRyzeal is a fuckton weaker than Snake Eyes and absolutely can't compete unless Snake Eyes gets murdered some time soon
>>521253984I want her
>>521255415fuwawho? I run 3 retaliating C.
>>521250606that's just plain wrong and I wish it wasn'textra deck slots are at premium for the deck, you don't want to waste 1 on varar who will basically never come up unless you're already winning
>>521254994>free from the sex freaks>purrely spammer>labtroons everywhere>DMG spammer>tripfag who doesn't even play the game does nothing but spam the thread with epin hot yugioh females>trannies constantly bumping the thread with softcore porn to keep it aliveget fucked you disingenuous trannies, your nu-generals are fucking dead, and good fucking riddance
>>521255494You don't, trust me, she'd laugh at your penis even if it was bigger than she was tall.
>>521254885Beatrice, and OSS Snake-Eye were both banned and they limited Snake Ash and Poplar to 1. They just moved Poplar and Ash to 2 in TCG but OSS is still completely gone
>>521255803is*
>>521255415i crafted 2 forever ago and I either run 1 or 2 in almost every deck
>>521255790look at this grubby little control freak, came here to flaunt he got the jannies to ban the /v/ threads on sight
Do NOT argue during HIS stream.
>>521256172my days gets a little brighter everytime trannies like you get shat on, whether its the jannies doing is irrelevant to me, what matters is that you got fucked either way and im genuinely happy for it
>>521255415yes
>>521255415Considering going 2nd is a 100% loss if you don't resolve it I'd say yeah
>>521255415you play 1 for crossout unless your deck can make use of them going 1st somehow
I have 500 UR dust should I make vaalmonica, centurion, or voiceless voice?
>>521255597Its literally only good against azamina
>>521257510Sexmonica is cheap so you can make that alongside one of the other two
>>521257510Skip all and wait for RIZZeal.
>>521257510VV is the strongest of the 3, but its very boring.
>primite fiendsmithabsolute fucking state of master dueldeckbuilding has been reduced to "just slop the two newest engines together with 0 consideration for synergy"
>>521257726and yet you lost to it
>>521257778yea my bad for playing decks I think are cool but have no chance against 25 years of powercreep I should head over to HIS website and copy the newest thing
>>521253465>Jerry Beans Manprimite is beaver warrior support
>>521257919>0 consideration for synergyAre you retarded? The synergy there is obvious
how do you use the new Cen-Troonion cards? Chimerea is just straight up not working for me and so far they have been nothing but bricks
>>521257919I want to take that Lode.
>>521257867my haram magician retrain can't be this cute!
>>521258152nobody uses chimerea
>>521258095>a single copy of a light fiend vanilla because konami thinks it's reasonable to full combo from simply having a light fiendwow epic synergy this is great game design and definitely wont make it harder for them to design light fiend archetypes in the future
>>521258392the event loaner does tho
>>521258504So you DO understand the synergy? So why did you say you didn't?
>>521258517the loaners are all unoptimized
>>521258703they always arei was just wondering if i could fucking use that card somehow, not even in mirror matches i've been able to do anything with it
>>521257726>>521257919Retard, it's just someone having fun, the deck sucks and you know it
>>521258651it isn't synergy, it's bad game design
>>521173916Why does every YGO anime protag have Yu in his name?Is it because Yu sounds like "game" in Japanese?
>>521259069>NOOO MOMMY SOME OF HIS CARDS HAVE DIFFERENT NAMES TO EACH OTHER REEEEEEEEEE
>>521259069Don't worry, ryzeal and malice will be the great equalizers. You can still use fiendslop in both decks because fiendslop is that broken but it's suboptimal, so going forward fiendslop won't be as prevalent. It's also subpar in blue eyes.
Memento feels like worse ritual beast
>>521259357I'm all in for experimenting weird archetype mixing but you should genuinely kill yourself if you think it's ok to shit out a rank 6 / link 4 / non-targetting negates out of a singular body just because it's a light fiend
>>521259149it literally is the kanji for game
>>521258152Chimerea is bad, only atrii is usedYou do the same combo as always but you make the new level 8 instead and search Atrii with the emblema card.
>>521259674>worseRB was great at its peak because protoss turbo in tenpai meta but now it's garbo
Here’s my experiment Special summon kashtira unicornUse fiendsmith engraver Uhhh normal summon snake eyes ash
>>521259795If you seethe this hard about decks that are bad you must have a mental breakdown when you play against snake eyes
>HE was convinced primite blue eyes would be tier 0>heroes utterly rips it apart in HIS tourneyLMAO
>>521259850>Gamer Muto>Jaden Gameon >Gamu Fudo>Gami Tsukumo>Gamin Sakaki (didn't watch but there's 4 dimensions with their own fusion type wtf is this)>Gamezo Fujiki
>>521255803That sounds awful haha. What about the timid onahole?
>>521259605You can't use Fiendsmith in Malice.
Not very fond of Synchro Summoning.
>>521260465iirc the other dimensions' protags only use katakana that's pronounced the same without the actual kanji
synchro is the noblest summoning method
>>521260774Just draw nibiru, lucklet.
>>521260465>Jaden GameonThat's funny
>>521260812>protags only use katakana that's pronounced the same without the actual kanjiThe official spellings for their names are Ute, Hugo, and Joeri.
>>521257919>Combotroons when they encounter even the most basic control oriented deckYou guys wouldn't last 5 seconds in a real card game.>>521258504Actually the synergy is that you get to recycle Bystials, Drillbeam, and the Fiendsmith stuff endlessly because no one runs backrow removal. Your card advantage then wins the game without ever playing too hard into hand traps yourself, and the Fiendsmith stuff lets you get some board presence if you go uninterrupted. You got beaten at the deckbuilding stage. It happens, stop coping.
>>521261325Hugo ja nai...
White duston makes rogue trannies seethe
>>521261729>fiendsmith is honest and not a combo deckkill yourself
>>521261325I believe they did that just so the alt dimension versions don't have "Yu" at the start of their names, while they gave Yuzu a "Yu" at the start of hers.
>>521262005Fiendsmith is midrange.
BE with primite is alright not super OP but not super dogshit either, I like it
>>521260741You can. Fiendsmith Malice is a build.>But you can't make Caesar or Desirae!If you open Engraver use it first before the Malice cards. If you make moon after you use Malice cards just use them as link fodder and you still have Paradise set up.
>>521262232Its objectively worse than pretty much anything else you could be doing though.
It's time.
>>521262005Fiendsmiths absolute highest ceiling endboard is one negate or a CaesarIt's strength absolutely isn't combo potential you retarded shitter
>>521260774Same, i'm more of a fusion deck player myself so i get it.
is tenpai still good?
>>521263050yes when my opponent plays itno when i play it
>ty-phon to out nibiruActually kind of based.
>>521262005One thing that's become abundantly clear from reading these threads and interacting with the people who post in them is that very few if any of you actually read or evaluate cards. You just copy decklists online and memorize combo videos that get you to a board state that is self-evidently good because the combo video got to it and you don't really consider the underlying reasons why that archetype/deck is good or bad in the first place. So these decks that are a GOAT style bundle of little synergies just totally blow your mind because you've been babied by archetypes for however long you've been playing the game.You know that cards have text on them right? The Fiendsmith isn't just step 12 in your 38 step Snake-Eyes endboard, it's a game piece that you can use in any number of ways. Just think of it like how you can play Baronne de Fleur outside of decks with Fleur Synchron. You don't have to just put all the cards with the same name in the same deck.
>>521262793>Typhoon into TYPHONHIM sama, I kneel
>>521263207>Giant mecha cockblocks unknow space entityKino
>>521263350that's zeus' role though
>>521262005Without Beatrice a single Engraver makes Caesar or Desirae.You are an unplayer.
>>521262843nigger your "absolute highest ceiling" comes from 1 card in hand or any 2 bodies on the field, about 10 summons but no normal summon spent, no lock, no nothingof course its going to be used as a smaller chunk of a much bigger combokill yourself
>>521263220That's my problem, I'm a brainlet and I NEED to follow a flowchart to play with any level of speed. I can, eventually, figure out a game plan if I need to but 9 times out of 10 I will then lose to time lut even if I was seconds away from making a comeback. I'm just too slow, physically and mentally, to play this game without having set patterns and combos to follow.
>>521263664>tierlist from his siteretard bro? YGOProdeck (that only uses Official Konami Tournaments and MBT's MCS tournament) says otherwise
>>521263664>of course its going to be used as a smaller chunk of a much bigger comboExcept Fiendsmith's biggest successes have all been relatively pure We just can't have that in Master Duel because Konami decided to not release the cards that let Fiendsmith play standalone, and leave Beatrice legal to enhance 45 minute giga FTK combos This is purely Konmai's retarded scheduling and refusal to do a real banlist, not the fault of the Fiendsmith cards
>>521264115why the fuck are they calling yubel an unchained deck?
>>521263220dude calm down, it's 3 small engines known for having no restrictions and printing advantage for free mashed together + a bunch of handtrapsthe dude who put it together didn't solve fermat's last theorem
Time to make a kashtira player eat shit because they didn't expect cicada king.
>>521264115I didn't even post a tier list and I'm confused what point you're trying to bring into this argument by posting yourself a tier list where a fiendsmith combo deck is on it's own tier even above tenpai.>>521264315See >>521264115
>>521264572Can you please READ the fucking post before making inane comments?
>fiendsmith downplayers exist
>>521264572that is an assblasted konami employee who gets pissed about any mention of HIM even if it's only tangentally.
Who do you think smell better, TCG players or MD players?
>>521264572no one should be using MDMeveryone should be using YGOProDeckstop giving him clicks
>>521264875It's kinda moot because no one is forced to smell MD players
>>521265147See >>521264812
I’m what you call a tearlament downplayer
>>521264810There are like 15 archetypes that need hits right now and you're bitching about this one?
>>521265309name 5 archetypes that are more problematic than fiendslop
>>521263737Well the good news is that the archetype system of Yugioh is the perfect solution to this particular problem. Just don't ever play a different card game, it's scary out there.>>521264465>the dude who put it together didn't solve fermat's last theoremI know! It's not a great feat of deckbuilding! This shit ain't lantern control it's like day 1 on the "I want to make sure I have resources and my opponent doesn't" thought process. I'd argue it's not even the best version of that deck, or even a particularly good one. But that's why it kills me that people ITT can't figure out what makes this list work and why it's different from Azamina Fiendsmith Horus Tearlament Snake-Eyes Fire King combo piles. Yugioh people seem to genuinely not understand cards as individual game pieces, like how Koalas have brains that are so small they don't recognize eucalyptus leaves if they're not on a branch.
>royal rare piercing the darknessis it time for me to make a black magician deck? should I craft some primites to use with it?
>>521262843>Fiendsmiths absolute highest ceiling endboard is one negate or a Caesara single engraver plus a discard is full yubel combo with 6 interruptions on the field, kill yourself clueless shitter
>>521265309to be fair like 4-5 decks on the tier list would get hit if that engine got banned straight to hell, so it helps the game out over all.
>>521265463Runick, Tearlaments, Kashtira, Snake-Eyes, Jackie Chan
>>521265526It is time.
>>521265510>Yugioh people seem to genuinely not understand cards as individual game piecesIt's more than bad players exclusively judge decks on aesthetic. If your cards aren't all the same archetype/type/attribute then they go apeshit They're not really interested in learning to play the game, they're interested in larping as an anime character with the deck they think defines their personality and lash out at anything that breaks the fantasy
>>521265569Tearlaments is fair now
>>521265569>worthless and for some reason hit harder in MD than any other format>hard carried by fiendsmith after all the bans>its either played pure where it's a bricky mess that might still wins with difi or used as a small engine where it's not as effective as fiendsmith>correct, but also carried by fiendsmithkill yourself
>>521265810funnily enough the anime chars usually played slop even if they had plenty of cards from X archetype as the skeleton, but dont flatter yourself shitter as if you were some billion IQ genius for playing some braindead easymode "le meta engines-goodstuff" """deck""""
>>521266124>doesn't read the post>starts crying about different archetypes being run together againKek only proving the point
Free Halq
white woods is a fair, honest deck and the only problem is generic ED pieces like Beatrice Baroness and IP Masq
>>521266197no one is crying about """different archetypes being run together""", I said dont act like its somehow some genius play to slap together the most generic soulless slop that doesnt conflict with eachother where the entire identity is "its good" and that its shilled shit which is why its able to do it whereas actual decks have upsides and downsides
>3 imperm 2 ash in hand>draw bonfire after he ends his turn
Do mdpro or ygomega have a solo mode?
>>521266635i assume it has windbot but it's not good
>>521266635I haven't opened either of them no edopro since ages, but I'm pretty sure they have at least some duel puzzles.
Weird how Fiendsmith is literally only a problem in decks that were ALREADY a problem before Fiendsmith existed, but retarded shitters will still blame le spooky light fiend man for the games ills
>brickeyes still loses hard to snakeslopSounds about right.
I got 3 Mathematicians from opening Centurion packs is this nigger good for anything? He seems bad because you need to specifically normal summon or die in battle.
>>521267301your point? it's still a problem and there's no excuse for it to be allowed to full combo from 1 body with no locks or resources spent
>>521255790>purrely spammerYou mean the guy who posts "_ with purrely"? It's just run of the mill shitposting, he doesn't even attach pictures to it.>labtroons everywhereLabtrannies getting assmad every time someone points out how their deck is hated everywhere (even r_ddit) and how it has ruined two different events now (LIGHT and DARK loaner, XYZ cup) is not an issue, they calm down once you remind them how ryzeal deadnamer (xyz summoned with mulcharyzeal fuwalos) robbed them out of a YCS top 8.>DMG spammerHe doesn't even post it threadly.>tripfagNo idea about this guy, sorry, maybe i already had him filtered and never saw his posts.>trannies constantly bumping the thread with softcore porn to keep it aliveGod forbid you post yugioh fanart in the yugioh thread.None of them qualify as sex freaks, you wanna see true madness? Head to /dng/, there's a tranny cabal there (there's a honest to god diaper wearing scat loving tranny, a guy who thinks he's a female character from arc-v, one who can't post anything without attaching a picture of a random chinese female to it, and the worst of them all, a man from arg*ntina obsessed with a shitty ritual card from nearly 20 years ago) actively ruining the thread for everyone who actually wants to discuss the game.
>>521267527We already know you've never played Yugioh why do you insist on telling us over and over again?
How can I summon Zapper Shrimp in my Fish deck
>>521267301too be fair this is the consistency argument all over again, hitting fiendsmith makes the other decks less consistent, and the fiendsmith deck itself is good enough to tier without tying itself to other stuff. there's legitimate arguments to be made as to why fiendsmith should be hit.
>>521267527>full combo from 1 body with no locks or resources spent>said full combo without beatrice is a single Caesar and Desirae
>>521267907>Caesar and Desiraeor*
Fiendsmith's nasty because it forces you to use your handtraps on it.
>>521260465One of the 4 "game" boys lol in shart-v is literally named fusion, and funnily enough it's not the one that uses fusion cards.
>>521267873To summon a monster, you place a monster card from your hand onto your field in the main monster zone.
>>521268020It's not fusion cards, it's synchro cards.
>>521267873Diabell, Queen of the White Forest
>>521268020His name is Hugo.
Honestly Millennium is stronger than Fiendsmith now that Beatrice is gone.They should've banned Curious too.
>>521268009but anon it can only end on caesar or desirae or apollousa out of 1 body for free so it's honest anon said so
>>521267879>too be fair this is the consistency argument all over againNo it isn't?The argument is that if you kill Fiendsmith then Snake Eyes is still the best deck in the game, and if you kill Snake Eyes then Fiendsmith is just a fun midrange deck Anyone arguing that Fiendsmith is the problem in this format is completely retarded, which is why only hardstuck gold players say it
>retard sets up his turn 1 board with mostly monster negates >open Raigeki, Lightning, Duster, Genroku, Kaimen, Gold Sarcheh
>>521268548snake eyes without fiendsmith is shittier then tenpai and you know full damn well know it.
>>521268751that hand folds to any proper board unless you have droplet
Tried out centurion, I guess I'm replacing my wack synchron engine with this abomination.
>>521239863I have no clue if this works but I'm gonna try
>>521268964The fuck are you saying? All Fiendsmith does in SE now is letting them make a stronger board, they're not even extra starters because Beatrice is gone.
>>521268964.. the extra deck is intact, they still can build a bunch of shit by themselves
anon keeps downplaying the value of turning 1 body into 4 just because it's a light fiend
What exactly is the purpose of ultimate fusion in Blue-Eyes decks? It always just feels way easier to go into tyrant via banishing wishes but all the decklists I've been looking at run ulti fusion so now I'm wondering if I'm missing something
>>521268476What's the apo line for FS?
>>521270353Only shitters play Ultimate Fusion. It's not needed at all.
>>521270361Engraver tract lurrie requiem engraver engraver sequence lacrima engraver usa
ban linkuribohnow.
>>521270353memes, otherwise it's completely useless
>blue eyes losing to basically the branded structure deckLMAO
>BE with Primite lost to Branded Blue Eyes sisters...
>>521270649>lacrimaSOON i guess
I knew master duel shitters were retarded but this is on a whole new level. The fiendsmith engine itself for what its designed to enable as its own archetype isnt unhealthy or overpowered, the issue is that konami is so retarded that they not only didnt lock them into anything at any point (which wouldve been a massive solution without even forcing a caesar ban by locking you into light fiends the second you touch requiem so you cant ever start your turn with the caesar insulation, or even fiendsmith at all unless you want to be locked into light fiends) but they also outright made shitloads of cards like aerial eater and necroquip tailor made just to turn fagsmith into a retarded slop powerhouse a single engraver in hand turns into sequence which makes aerial eater, eater dumps samsara D lotus and you scoop up the bodies into a full unchained combo that then revives samsara out of the grave without even having touched your normal summon at any point, without locking yourself into any point. So you can literally do full unchained yubel fiendsmith combo off of a single engraver and a discard in a clown world, and then normal snake eye ash or some shit
>>521270361MD still has ED Lacrima
where the HELL do I handtrap memento? they have like 12 different names that all mill 20 cards or search something
>>521270745The ED lacrima brings back an engraver for 3 mats I meant
the new pack with sharks is fucking rigged. I got 5 10 packs, and only got fucking 4 UR total. One per 10 pack. Never had such bad odds with ANY pack before.
How necessary is Dominus Purge to Blue Eyes deck? with how much I already spent I can only craft one copy of it
Does this look fine ??
>>521270779Horse or the fusion
>>521270751Yubel was making unbreakable FTK boards before Fiendsmith even released
>>521271046add dugares and the link 1 magistus slutditch intonare and ereditare and add the third scleta + invitare
>>521271287>uhh achkhually its completely fine to add more ways to access full yubel combo without even using your normal or committing to an archetypal starter yetkill yourself retarded apologist
>>521271046Bro your Kashtira and Millennium? And 3 Fuwalos?
>>521270958honestly I've only ever found purge to be just "ok", you'll be fine just putting in whatever relevant handtraps you have in that slot
It's almost like Yubel is the problem
>>521271432So kill Yubel? What's the issue?
>>521271046The 2nd versare and invitare aren't needed you can swap it out for whatever
Ban Link Spider
>>521271726people have been begging for that for a long ass while here, but konami has a hard on for the deck so we are screwed and stuck with that bullshit.
>>521271046all of the new vaalmonica cards and intonare are bad, use them if you really like them, they can shine in niche situations, but they're pretty fucking badrecommend exciton instead of closed heaven, same purpose but can dump your dimmono in grave and his effect can shine in niche situationsI'd recommend dugares over bagooska because while the deck used to be bagooska turbo, we now have fiendsmith to make stronger boards and bagooska is ass in current formathighly recommend running fuwalos (up to 3 copies) because we can actually pendulum summon it going first
>Maxx C is OP>Split Maxx C into 3 weaker more balanced versions of the same card>Leave Maxx C legal alongside themIn 25 years this is the most baffling decision Konami has ever made. Just once I want Konami to break their vow of perpetual silence and put the man responsible for this decision in front of a microphone and have him carefully explain what the fuck is happening in his brain.
>blue eyes wins because of time limit against brandedRigged.
>Branded lost to timegood. I hate seeing Branded troons play with themselves for 19 hours. I scoop and report them for slow play.
>>521272484I hate it even more when they use Fuwalos first, and THEN the roach later.
>>521270958Purge is just extra ash. Just play droll or more Bystials if you can't afford it
>won all three tryout duels by my opponent scooping on sight of a centurion cardwell fuck you too I just wanted to try the deck out
>>521272036Something like this ?
ObiWanCannoli, I know you're hereI hope you enjoyed getting rolled by my Monarchs and True Dracos BITCH lmao, dumb blue eyes cuck
>>521273894you can cut the 2nd invitare too but yes, that looks fineid suggest either ghost ogre just because its good in format or droll as crossout target since it completely kills any chance of you winningcould also consider swapping 1 imperm for veiler for yet more crossout coverage
>>521274228You will never be a woman stun tranny I should have won if I didn’t open poorly
>>521274292thanks bwo
What the FUCK is happening???
>>521273894Also keep in mind this deck is bricky as hell. They really need to give Vaalmonica consistency support like a 1 card starter.
are there any new players/guys trying out meme decks on those simulators or is it all try hards all the time because you have access to the best cards?
>>521274401You tried to activate Sage AND Tyrant under Erupt you dumb bitch kek, AND YOU MAXX C'D HERITAGE HAHAHAHAHAHA I ALMOST FORGOT
>>521274503real life yugioh creepy pastayou bought cards from a garage sale after a kid died
just had the funniest brick>starting hand is ash blossom, lurrie, followed rhythm, invitare, talent>normal lurrie make caesar>opponent sets 3 and passes, flips up rivalry, turns out it's stun lab>draw ash for turn>end phase uses daruma and welcome, I chain ash>next turn I draw imperm>next turn I draw creation (yes its bad I want to try it)>next turn I draw versare (still no access to scales or selettrice)>finally draw selettrice>in the end even tho I could imperm the rivalry and finally pop off I ended up just whacking him to death with caesar while negating an entire playset of big welcome and 2 regular welcomes
>>521274658low ranks on omega are full of janky garbage, you basically never see meta stuff unfortunately its TCG meme banlist so tons of shitty rogue decks have random hits on the banlist for no reason
>opened chaos max 4 times in a fucking rowyeah removing this brick from my deck asap
>>521274945>said "random hits' are Apo Baronne and Savage banned
>>521275331Nigger half the shit on the TCG banlist is legal in Master Duel and nobody plays it
>>521274782This is a good perspective of how garbage vaalmonica is and how hard fiendsmith carries it.You draw the fiendsmith card "you don't want to draw" and make caesar out of it.You draw 4 different vaalmonica garnets you literally can't do anything out of it.
is still worth crafting tenpai cards
>>521275763its still a free ticket to master 1 so I guess so
>>521274503he comin'
When is mermail coming out
>>521275763Tenpai Bystial Fiendsmith is a thing so yeah
>>521173916>centurion loaner has fucking blazarfuck off konami
>>521276369>Why did they give the deck their win condition
>>521275832Oh yeah this is a card. Do people normally use 5 level 4s to make it?
>>521276637you make vanillla heraldry crest, xyz evolution into shattered stream then use shattered stream's effect to summon dmd
impressive how no matter the format branded is always the deck I hate playing against the most
>>521275763It's now an honest deck forced to do dishonest tranny plays.>gold sarc banish blaster (this means his other 5 cards are handtraps, so you have a 90% chance to win)>super poly your board away>double mulcharmy (they'll run purulia until meowls gets added) or fuwalos chain ash chain maxx c>gold sarc banish kaleido chick (this means he has genroku or kaimen in hand, and that you lost)
Garuga and Mudragon aren't enough to satisfy me nowadays.They should release a fusion monster whose required fusion materials are 2+ monsters with different names.It should have a simple effect like gaining 200 ATK for each fusion material for something.I want to fuse an entire field with a single card.
>top decks EngraverFuck Fiendsmith
>>521277750>gold sarc banish kaleido chickoh that sounds good
that was good, but what are you gonna do against the second fuwalos?
>>521274503the master rules program printed on the moon started acting up, wait up and soon they will come back
Lurrie is glued to my hand every game, it's not unworkable but I envy people who actually manage to draw Engraver
>>521279389That's what Necroquip is for.
>>521279389Opening Lurrie is fine now
>Drillbeam dishonestly resets itself Is this the only way to make Blue Eyes competitive? Pathetic
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT A SINGLE NEGATE EVERY TURN
>>521279389You play a broken fucking deck, don't cry about it. See >>521275707
>>521270691>>521270692What's this from?
>>521279962How so?
>>521280387Its one autist who uses the threads instead of twitch chat for his favorite ecleb. Just ignore him.
>>521280304?
>Purge Primera>Centurion bvll instantly passes and then surrendersHoly shit that deck is bad
>>521280083i mean dark magician can do that too and the deck still sucks.
>>521280387That happened over an hour agoFOCUS anon FOCUS
>>521274782which card is caesar here?
>>521280505Which Eceleb?
>>521280537You're crying about Drillbeam in a format where SE, Fiendsmith, Block Dragon, White Forest, Branded, Yubel, Tenpai are all legal
>>521279484>>521279962Haven't pulled/crafted Necroquip yet, it's on the to-do list>>521280380You have zero context for what I'm playing besides it having Fiendsmith in it, I could be playing FS Cloudians and you'd still be pissing yourself in babyrage
So what does primite do exactly?
>>521280643GIA NOT DURING THE TOURNAMENT
>>521280869repeatable omninegate, also free bodies.
>>5212808691 negate
>>521281035>recyclable onmi-negate that also banishes
>>521280696HIM aka HE aka Roberto aka Dr Bubbles
>>521280763fiendsmith is busted regardless
>>521280869Infinite follow-up and 1 negate + banish every turn also 2 bodies to make Seals
>>521280869negate + normal monster searcher
>morganite x3>dragon ruler earth/fire x2>gold sarc x2>tenpai+primite engine ft. white duston>boardbreaker/stall cardsyup, it's slop time!
>>521280869What everyone else is saying with the caveats being that the omni is on-field effects only and that you have to play at least one (often more) normal monster, all in all it's good for giving certain decks better grind games and encouraging people to play stupid meme vanillas. White Duston and sometimes Summoned Skull for Fiendsmith, Alexandrite Dragon and sometimes Red-Eyes for Dragon Link, stuff like that.
>>521281767why is skull servant cosplaying as laundry?
Tenpai has completely disappeared from the ladder overnight holy shitI went from seeing them every other match to seeing a total of 1 today that bricked and instantly surrendered
>>521282162Who cares, it's shitty bug art
>>521282162Everyone's got their own hobbies
>>521282162Someone's gotta send Wight Prince from the deck to GY.
>>521280869Be Tier 2 at best
>>521281234Who?
How well does ritual beasts actually fare in the ladder nowadays? Does it wins just because people don't know what it does?
>>521282162laundry... has died...
>>521282301i drew that
>>521283318It's very nice, thank you for creating it.
>>521281767>not AI generated artBad art.
Impregnating Purrely
>>521283058sucks now because of purulia
does metalfoes primite works
>>521282162
>guy triple tactic talents me to see my hand>scoopsI guess seeing 4 starters was too much
DRNM or ultimate slayer?
>>521283648Nobody is playing Purulia
>>521283792i meant fuwalosthey all blur together
>does metalfoes primite works
>>521283740DRNM is bad because your opponent will just bounce back the turn after.
>>521284003Who are you quoting
>>521283716sometimes you realize you shouldve lost the coinflip and drawn 5 handtraps instead of daring to go first
>MetalfoesYou plan to do it just because they have normal monsters? Don't.
>>521284120some nobody, ignore him(this is a joke btw you matter anon i love you)
>>521283740Depends on the formatSlayer is an FTK against Ryzeal while DNRM is an FTK against Yummy
Standby phase?I activate Primite Ether Beryl's effect! This allows me to add him from my graveyard to my hand when there is a Normal Monster face-up in my Extra Deck.
>>521284310>format defining>yummy
why is purge allowed to negate maxx c but impulse isnt
>>521284623have you read the cards
>>521284673im talking from a balance perspective not mechanical lmao
sunseed genius primite
how come ash blossom is allowed to negate maxx c but ghost ogre isnt
>>521283693I hate that jinzo so much
>>521284623>>5212847491) It's a newer card2) It's more restricted and can't be splashed into everything
>>521284749because konami jp loves the roach
>>521284913retardGOD
>>521284883cursed Jinzo
>>521284749From a balance perspective Impulse is both a better card and is usable in better decks. Let Purge have at least one good thing about it.
>>521284623Because impulse is the far superior card in every way?
I wish my card wife was real.But then I guess my parents wouldn't like her and would probably disown me.Can you guess who my wife is?
>>521278413In case you're so fucking retarded you need someone to tell you, if they ever printed such a generic fusion superpoly would be pre-banned because there's no way they would let a card single handedly clear any possible monster spread with exception only for monsters that say "can't be used as fusion material" (only kaleidoheart comes to mind) while saying neither player can respond
>>521286415Roze?
>>521286415sera
>>521286451Bruh, if you didn't notice, I was being sarcastic and ironic.I even implied on the last line that I was probably just seething because someone super poly'd me.
>>521286415Purrely
>>521265253
>>521286415Just say she's your daughter
>>521286608Sarcasm doesn't translate well over textHope that helps
>>521286491>>521286548>>521286641...Why do those answers all seem like correct ones?
>TFW just want some not shit dragon fusions to run in dragonmaid, since the deck is basically dragon fusion shit.dek
>>521265253Current MD tearlament doesn't hold a candle to even blue eyes despite what the mdg hivemind thinks so you're correct in downplaying it
>>521286984Roze is shit so yeah, I bet your parents would disown you for not picking Raye instead
>>521281234I don't know who that is. Why do you call him "HIM"?
>>521270353Read the card. Only turbo shitters say it's unnecessary (paper faggots).
>>521286415Kentregina
>>521287174konami monitors these threads, and gets extremely assblasted if someone mentions HIM by name since HE is the fag typically behind all the leaks in yugioh.
Who would be the card wifes that your parents WOULD approve of?
>>521284883>>521285101penis
>crimson dragon still not bannedliterally the biggest crutch in the game
>>521287178Would you care to explain your reasoning behind it?
>>521287380anon probably plays the dragon master magia version of blue eyes primite.
>>521287295Raye
>>521287380It pops and lets you get out our lord and savior.
>>521287295Rikka Petal
>>521287295My wife Fymena
>>521287631But Magia is bad
>>521287858Too be fair it's either play that version, or play the crimson dragon turbo version, which feels fucking garbage to play and crimson dragon is probably gonna eat utter shit one of these days.
multiple waves of support and sharks are still pitifully bad
>>521287295lovely lab is a successful property ownerdeals with squatters the appropriate way
>>521288019sharks are alright in the TCG because they have toad to coast off of.
>>521288002>crimson dragon is probably gonna eat utter shit one of these days.We have an 8 month preview of what the future meta looks like. It is at zero risk of being banned.
>>521288178i'm not convinced, that shit was pushing the boundaries before in MD and konami was strongly considering banning it then, if blue eyes primite is as dominant as it could potentially be, that would probably be the very first thing hit.
>>521287343It's a shame that the card is super easy to get to, but I petdeck Resonator now and then and it's a great piece of the deck. Bridges from Centurions back into Supernova, is a good excuse to play Synchro Rumble sometimes, and its built in quick summon means you don't need to commit resources to it t1 if you can't afford to
so why exactly no blue eyes deck play a third copy of it?
>>521284623>draw phase>they maxx chow many cards do they control?
>>521288086To be your wife first the monster would have to ever consider getting on a relationship with youWhy would Lab ever care about you when she has Hero-chan?
>so why exactly no blue eyes deck play a third copy of it?
>>521288560nobody actually wants to draw blue eyes in hand, but they need them for the deck to function.
>>521288423That's a good point. If they ban several snake eye cards, and also pre-hit Ryzeal+Maliss out of viability, and also nuke White Forest, Tenpai, Branded, Memento, Chimera, Fiendsmith, Yubel, Centurion, and Dark Magician, then I could see a meta that would call for a Crimson Dragon ban.
>>521288160Wasn't Bahamut Shark just banned?
>>521270353reasoning for me: gives me another set off true light and another search off wishes, acts as extension when going 2nd, helps push for gamefor this you trade one maindeck slot and one ed slot (second tyrant) its a very fine 1 of and also very fine to not run it if you dont feel like you want itand no i dont run crimson dragon so the extra oomph is useful
playing vaal in the event is suffering holy shitone of your scale destroyed? oops, ALL your counter now gonehow do you out 5k memento? hope you open the trap because god knows you can do anything elsefiendsmith? oopsie woopsie fuwalos it isdesirae? got salvation'd dumbass
>>521288560the only blue-eyes deck that ran three was 2016 blue-eyes and true light trap versionsany combo or midrange version has ran two ever since our fall from grace
>>521288775yup, so it's not a very good deck anymore, but people thought sharks were ok because of bahamut shark into toad. that being said toad got banned in MD because sprights are degenerate, but in the TCG that was the reality.
>opponent playing horus>he summons HORUSwtf? is that legal?
>>521288731dark magician will never be meta even with primite anon, don't kid yourself.
brandark magician fusion
>>521289271Yeah but imagine how good Blue Eyes would be if even Dark Magician was on the banlist. Crimson Dragon has to go because of that possibility.
>>521288893I just popped it with the Synchro.
>>521289135Cool. What happened?
>>521288560There's no real reason to. The benefits you get are exactly that you get to pop a third card with majesty if you set up all 3 in the grave. You play 2 because 1 is too open to disruption and playing 2 allows for some more flexible plays
I miss the exodia duel trial.That one was fun.
I have never beaten a lab playerEvery time I manage to grind through their miserable lineup of traps, pops and handrips that they can develop on my turn 1 for reason they pull a SEC out of their ass and banish my entire field. I hate this deck more than you could imagine
>>521288893>desirae? got salvation'd dumbassI couldn't resolve sequence a single time playing the loaner because my opponent had imperm literally every time.But overall this mini event just heavily favors going 1st, no deck has enough power to push through a full board. But Vaal has no 1 card combos so it's way less likely than the others to actually get to the full combo.
>>521289271The year is 2025 and MD players are getting cash prizes for topping community tournaments with all 5 pieces of exodia in their deck.
>>521290065Pic related. Alternatively play Lab yourself and run Eradicator
>>521290151at this point, i don't think vaal loaner deck even got a decent 2-card combo
>>521290151>Vaal has no 1 card combosVaal can actually combo into Valar+Bagooska+trap of choice, or Zebufera+Baronne/Bagooska+Trap or whatever endboard you want you want off of just Selettrice or field spell if you're willing to dedicate some extra deck space to it and are willing to run some Millennium cards.Not convinced those combos are worth it but they do exist.
7K gemsNot a single Vaal UR. i mean I got URs but not a single girland konami prices gems at that price holy fuck
>>521290007Yeah.
>>521290596it's 4 fucking urs nigga
>>521287858Some opinions are a bit TOO wrong.
>>521290589Oh yeah, also you have to burn yourself down to 1500 LP but surely LP never matters, also it's an investment, trust me bro, don't listen to that Dark Fairy she doesn't know what she's talking about.
>>521290065There's a reason everyone calls it the premium tranny deck.
>>521290589>Millenniumsee, the thing is the loaner deck ain't got none of that
>>521290884Doro wouldn't say that.
>>521290884>everyoneyou and all the voices inside your head?
Post big vaalmonicas
>>521290589wait, how do you bridge millennium into vaalcurious send what?
what do I do if my dryas gets negated
>>521291391have sowing in hand
so funny how labtroons have to do damage control 24/7
>>521291384Gallant Granite adds Golem. If you do want to set up all the Vaalmonica endboard stuff you do actually still have to use Curious to send Scelta to copy with Dimonno though.
>>521291525Damn. I only run one of those.
What EARTHs does Fiendsmith play?
>>521292229maxx c
>>521292229Fiendsmith Gene-Warped Warwolf
>>521292331Fiendsmith Primite? Could try and make it work
>>521291762>Gallant Granite...vaal got a 1-card combo for a rank 4?
nibiru 2 seems worthless
this is a neat cardprobably not usable really but neat nonetheless
>>521292478Selettrice>InvitareEither special summon off of it(this is bad) or add 1, send 1 to ED then activate the added one so you can pend summon the ED one.
>>521291064You'll never be a woman
>>521292557Wow, I just randomly pulled one of those recently.
Is there a worse feeling than getting a legacy pack royal?
>>521292557Who would win in a fight? The Gamecube with a Yugioh card in it, or the GeneX-Box?
>>521292894Yeah, plenty
>>521287295
Chaos DistillContinuous Spell CardAny card that would be sent to your GY is banished instead. You can activate one of the following effects:• Add 1 "Macro Cosmos" or a card that mentions it from your Deck to your hand, except "Chaos Distill".• If "Macro Cosmos" is on the field: Banish this face-up card from your Spell & Trap Zone; add 1 LIGHT monster with ? ATK from your Deck to your hand.You can only use this effect of "Chaos Distill" once per turn.I HATE YUGIOH I HATE YUGIOH I HATE YUGIOH
>>521292981Future deadbeat mom.
>>521288423>that shit was pushing the boundariesnot a single deck revolving around crimson dragon has been a top meta contender in the past. what exactly are you talking about?
our bread is ded
>>521292894Comparing your shitty legacy royal to my epic new Shrimp royal
>>521293040bro?your mst?
>>521293040lmao
>>521293040Now limit Macro so that they're forced to run 3 of this and stun decks will become more vulnerable to hand traps like Ash and Ogre.
>>521293040YEAH WELL I HATE YOU GRAVE ABUSER
>>521293305>not holding Ash for the Macro itself
>>521293305It’s better than macro cosmos and a dimensional fissure powercreep
Only trash from the trial duel pack.Also, I wonder why the Necroquip Princess' art on Necroquip Prism is much cuter.
>>521293495So does Ash just completely turn Macro Cosmos offline? Is it a dead card after or does it go back to normal the turn after?
>>521293517No it isn't. Part of Stun's strength is turning your hand traps into bricks. Macro that loses to Ash and Ogre is worse than Macro that is immune to Ash and turns of Ogre.
>>521293702It stops them from summoning Helios!
>>521293792Can't believe retards like this loser.
>>521293495>doesn't destroyAre you stupid?
lordy lode wording is a bit weird since it says "this turn" instead of "for the rest of this turn" but it still means the same thing, right?i'm free to use all effect i want and then use lordy lode?
>>521293940CorrectActivated effects only get turned off after you use Lordly Lode
>>521293702It does literally nothing. >>521293940Yes, it's for the rest of this turn. Threw me off as well but it's very nice to just stick a blue-eyes field at the end if you don't think they had nib or whatever to turn your drill online
>>521293928Keep SEETHING that your Helios is stuck in the deck.
New >>521293958
>>521293086Even in blue eyes no one plays crimson dragon anymore in paper because it's way too slow against ryzeal and maliss.
>>521288423>>521288002The issue with Crimson has always been king calamity, nothing else. That's why Blue-eyes is the only meta deck to ever use it and it wasn't even the best deck
100 LP>top draw loci>manage to come back to victory because no ash or impermi love plants