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Philosophy edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others. Low quality posts about romances or 'waifus' should be ignored and reported.

>Recommendations:
https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png

>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATe
https://monkposter.github.io/community.html

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>Thread Question
Most philosophical game?
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I wanna smooch her.
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>Thread Question
Ravel asking the Nameless One "What can change the nature of a man" wasn't deep on the narrative level, it was an insight into good game design practices.
When pressed about her question, Ravel will reveal that she's not interested in the objective answer, she's interested in TNO's answer.

Good media lets the reader/player/viewer come to their own conclusions, allowing them to think for themselves.
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>>539158042
she shit talked Ember, which is a basic standard even the other evil party members didnt fail so she can go straight to hell
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Are oreads the worst race mechanically?
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...jesus fucking christ what was that
this fight lasted an actual hour
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>>539169218
I never bother with turn based in big fights. It takes way too long.
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>>539169218
It exists so the hellknights have something metal to do.
Its like there's one player at the table who has this specific and weird idea he wants to roleplay and the GM throws him a bone so you get a session that's completely different from the rest of the campaign in order to tell a different kind of story for just that one autist.
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>>539169218
Oh you sweet summer child
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>>539169218
This is one of the more infamous fights
They go down super easy with Ember's sleep though
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>>539169167
Has anyone played them
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>>539167864
>black dude in ancient rome
let me guess, another historically accurate game
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Sex with Aerie!
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Sex with Imoen!
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The Knight Commander owes me sex.
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Headpats with Yrliet (giving and receiving)!
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We HATE Leliana here.
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>Be me
>Be Path finding Wrathing of the Righterousing
>"All of your party is fatigued"
>Random encounter
>Encounter finish
>Okay i just got Restoration, might as well heal off all the fatigue
>All of your party is restored
>Go back to map
>Walk like 5 steps
>All of your party is fatigued

What the fuck man?
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>>539176409
Rome did spread around, it just wasn't as evenly mixed as some recent tv productions try to depict.
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>>539176409
You have to go back
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>>539176964
Don't lewd the imouto.
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>>539180080
back to ancient rome?
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>>539180225
https://voca.ro/15xmKPclC7r0
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>>539180356
I ain't clicking that shit.
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>>539178902
I will never forgive Sawyer for his betrayal.
Never.
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>>539180326
Back to /pol/
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>>539179902
I just ignore fatigue and rest once they're exhausted.
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>>539179978
Anon. They aren't putting black people and faggots in video games because of historical accuracy. They're doing it because it gets them money.
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>>539182849
What the fuck is this schizobabble
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>>539182952
How does that make them money?
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>>539182952
Why even pretend you care about historical accuracy
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>Gorion's Ward (Bhaalspawn)
>Imoen (Bhaalspawn)
>Sarevok (Bhaalspawn)
>Aerie (carrying a half Bhaalspawn child)
All mandatory inclusions in the final party as far as I'm concerned.
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>>539183893
I prefer to not have gorion's ward in the final party.
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>>539182849
>sawyers main inspiration is bg3 and divinity the orginal sin
Larian? WON
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>>539184524
Obsidian has been permanently stuck in
>Well we'll take the popular thing and make our own version that will surely be better! We'll showel them!
mindset for decades now.
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Chain lighting or fireball?
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Does Obsidian still have the dungeon siege license? I want another dungeon siege game those games were kickass.
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>>539182849
>Deadfire
>better-reviewed
>better-selling
[laughs]
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>>539182849
I have no idea how i am supposed to read this. Is this like a comedy stick where one is the funny guy and the other is a straight man?
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>>539185089
Not being able to detect sarcasm is a sign of autism
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>>539182849
You think Josh hates Sven?
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>>539185321
The slide might be sarcastic, but the thoughts behind it weren't. Sawyer went on record saying he expected Deadfire to sell much better.
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>>539185545
Yes anon the slide is saying that they thought it would sell better than it did. You got em.
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>>539185089
>give Josh Sawyer
>money for PoE3
Made me giggle a little bit
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>>539185651
So was it sarcastic or not?
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>>539185861
Good lord.
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>>539185380
>owlcat is doing well
>larian is doing very well
>obsidian did so badly it got bought by microsoft and its greatest success in the 2020s is a children's game about squashing bugs
probably
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Remind me, why exactly did Harlequin-Solitaire need our help to save some trash from other trash, if he alone surpasses all the primarchs in strength, but can also work with other harlequins?
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>>539186365
>if he alone surpasses all the primarchs in strength
Secondary meme, he is peak librarian tier. But yes he is still way to strong to be doing this bullshit.
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>>539186365
Arebennian don't surpass primarchs. But as for your question, he's still a playwright, and you are an interesting actor for his play. He's just having fun. He could have solved everything and killed everyone in seconds, but where's the fun in that?
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it's almost fall enough to continue Superbilly's adventures into Mordavia
I'm looking forward to it!
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>>539185380
sven seems like the type of guy to unironically mog you and hardly notice
every other dev probably hates his guts in the most bitter and impotent way possible
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>he put sage in the name field
>he posted elsewhere with it
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>general constantly jerking themselves raw over which crpg dev is better
>actual crpg devs don't give a fuck and happily play other devs crpgs while congratulating them on their successes
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>paying attention to a vocal minority

who are we quoting?
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Cumming on Imoen's face
Ironically and sarcastically of course
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>>539187379
>while congratulating them on their successes
These congratulations are two-faced
Like Sawyer going haha yeah BG3 was pretty good but I also don't get the industry and the people who love this romance stuff I would never put that in my game but still haha pretty good RPG I guess yeah
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>>539187526
Do Swen and Sawyer kiss at the end of your fanfic?
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>>539187526
What are you implying, that a long-time professional in the field has some kind of /v/-tier seething about a game that he didn't work on?

Please go outside and talk to people, it's not too late for you.
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What's your irl class and alignment? I'm a chaotic neutral rogue.
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>>539187971
>that a long-time professional in the field has some kind of /v/-tier seething
That's a fact, yes.
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>plays his Steam Deck in public
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>>539188103
I also enjoy playing roles on my computer, I don't typically go the retard path though, myself.
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>he plays dollies with real people
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who else is high af right now?
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>>539184794
More things have fire resist than electricity.
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>>539182849
How much estrogen does Sawyer take in? He's been taking up more and more of a peach shape every convention.
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>>539184794
Skull trap
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>>539187997
Hlt: 53
Agi: 40
Dex: 54
Str: 28
Wis: 50
Ldr: 45
Mrk: 32
Mec: 22
Exp: 14
Med: 10
>Special perk
can talk to cats and massage cats and give smooches to cats
>$200 per day
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All im saying is alot of studios could learn some lessons about fun combat from larian.
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Incorrect opinion
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I'm just saying solasta is really fun to play while high, studios could take some lessons from that.
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Why is Bhaal so fucking retarded?
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>>539188239
>long-time professionals in any field are always rational and mature with no ego
Thinking you're playing a retard role right now.
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>>539189643
He's a murderhobo who got granted godhood because Jergal was bored.
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>>539186365
It would be imposing on Vect's hospitality too much for the Arbennian to extract the Farseers himself.
But employing an enterprising mon-keigh, in such a way as to leave everyone from the archon on down with egg on their face? Vect would appreciate the joke.
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>>539189750
Why would Sawyer go to the trouble of being asshurt? What would he have to gain?
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Are there any CRPGs without a party? Like just a single playable character, or does that go against CRPGs as a concept
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Around the Varnhold disappearance is around when I feel Kingmaker should've started wrapping up its story. Getting to the end of that chapter I started to feel like the game is about to overstay its welcome and I just want to rush through the rest.
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>>539190880
We're talking about how he possibly feels, not whether he should outwardly seethe on social media. Despite the entire culture and zeitgeist pushing people to do just that, most people with any shred of dignity won't. Doesn't mean he's not sitting in his office thinking "eat shit fucking Larian faggots, as if I would play your shitty ass romance simulator".
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>>539193010
Underrail
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>>539193046
Many such cases in Owlcat games. They're not great at pacing.
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>>539193010
There's this obscure indie game not many people have heard of called fallout.
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>>539193079
Is the thing about romance that he never even really said why you schizo out so hard about him?
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>>539193415
Fallout 3?
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>>539193079
right? some people in this thread have never known a doctor on a personal level and think hard work and privilege = good person
inb4 some retard thinks im talking about racial privilege and starts /pol/sperging
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Has Sawyer made a single good game without Avellone?
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>>539193079
Didn't sawyer stream himself playing bg3? He seemed to like it
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>>539193010
Age of decadence
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Crpg idea, Obsidian makes a dungeon siege clone but turn based.
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>>539194065
Posters here can't imagine actually playing and enjoying rpgs
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Uwe Boll must write.
Unironically wouldn't mind it compared to some recent media productions.
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>>539194065
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I like sawyer.
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Getting a little gay there, bro
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No homo
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Why would you ever want a single class divine caster in bg2
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>>539195874
I don't even care who writes, so long as the directing is good. Good directors are in short supply.
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>>539197327
>chaotic commands
>heal
>slow poison
>mass heal
>insect plague
>resurrection
>pretty much every high level druid spell
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Pls recommend games with romances that are as good as Owlcat's stuff. CRPG preferred but can be any genre.
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>>539199145
Install Silly Tavern and pick up a basic local model that fits on your GPU, it'll generate ERP dialogue roughly on par with the skill level you get from a WotR romance dialogue but with lewd bits.
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I keep getting the same "Advisor wants a word" event popping up and it won't go away, going to the throne room gives me a basic report that boosts some kingdom stats, it seems infinitely
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>>539199145
BG2
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There is s dinosaur nearby
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>*enters thread while quaffing the appropriate potion*
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Imagine the smell.
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>tells others to go back to bgg
>posts bg3 screenshots in crpgg
?
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>posts wegs in a weg general
Don't see a problem. Subhuman owlslopping shit-eaters ITT don't play RPGs.
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Is Serpent in the Staglands any good?
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>>539202278
Never heard of it, but the screenshots give me Darklands vibes. Which is good, so I may give it a try
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>>539197327
ur dumb
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>>539202278
Better than owlslop. But it will filter 99% of the casul shitters ITT: the game does not hold your hand (no journal, quest markers) and the difficulty can be brutal, if you're new to the genre.
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>the screenshots give me Darklands vibes
Kek, as if casul shitter children like you even played Darklands.
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>>539202554
That's tempting. How narrative focused is it?
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>>539202554
Patrician tier library for what I can see anon
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>>539202554
>no journal
I too like to deprive myself of a basic QoL feature because REAL rpgs don't hold the player's hand!!
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>>539202671
>Kek, as if casul shitter children like you even played Darklands.
nigger I'm 37
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>>539202916
You're talking to a mentally ill german scat fetishist, brother.
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Don't worry, you still have a child's mind :)

>>539202672
You have a goal and then you go out into the world to explore, investigate and speak with characters to complete that goal. There are plenty of dialogues and C&C and a coherent storyline.
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>>539203086
So basically just like Baldurs Gate 1. I see.
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>>539202958
>Read a random 4chan post
>immediately think of german scat fetishists
nice way of outing yourself anon
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>>539202958
don't forget the yellow fever + furry fetish
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I instantly ignore any post about a game if all you have to say about it is sperging out about a different game
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>>539203252
>yellow fever
I'm thinking based.
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>>539203252
I mean we could also remember the multiple-thread long melty he had defending NWN modules where you play as a woman and get abused, but let's keep things short and to the point.
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>>539203513
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>owlsloppers getting uppity again
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Not a bad combo, gives those poison spells a nice oompf.
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>>539196786
I hate Owlcat so much its unreal for making the only decent romance in the game gay. I'm happy for there to be a gay option at this level of writing but fucking throw straight people a bone, we get a literally retarded spider bitch who you have to constantly tard wrangle, a one-dimensional psycho narcissist cannibal whose banter isn't even remotely entertaining and which even most evil paths would consider too retarded to keep around, and finally an ascending succubus with no banter, no personality, everything about her is just "oh Desna" and "k-KC-kun I.. I can't.."
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>>539203252
Who doesn't have yellow fever?
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>>539206952
normal people? it's called a fetish for a reason
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>everything I don't like is a fetish
No, Ramdeep, you are not "normal." Every single red-blooded straight white male has "yellow fever" which is why white male + azn female are the most successful couple. Cope.
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I have jungle fever
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>>539207041
>implying Asian women aren't the supreme beauties of the human race.
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>>539206797
Owlkeks could've struck true gold with a Nenio or Konomi romance, but they can't do anything right.
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>>539207296
I think you need to stop listening (jerking) to kpop man
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>>539207186
I cast remove disease
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>>539207549
>k-pop
That's entry level yellow fever.
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>>539207748
Where do people like that get the money to sustain themselves?
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>>539207879
parents
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>>539207879
It is literally said in the video that she gets allowence from her parent (800.000 yen). Which is about 1,814,594 Norwegian Krone
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>>539208628
>>539208653
lazy fucks being sponsored by their parents isn't unique to nips
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>>539208653
80,000* yen
800k yen per month would be crazy, that's like triple the average japanese income
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>>539209380
I was a NEET for 1,2 year so i know how comfy it can get, but i also know it is a dead end
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>>539183307
Diversity initiative payouts. Not just to hire diversity, but to put diversity in the games being made. I think the money started running dry recently, but it was going strong for many years.
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>>539189108
All I'm saying is Larian could learn some lessons about fun everything else.
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>>539189108
There is no combat in Latrine games since Latrine games have no challenge and lack of challenge turns combat into execution of non-resistant loot pinatas.
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>>539189643
How's he retarded? He set up peak comedy.
>>539193010
NWN
>>539197327
>more spell slots
>level 7 spells
>higher casting level
>higher turning level
>get there faster
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>>539210502
>more spell slots
>level 7 spells
>higher casting level
>higher turning level
>get there faster
Not him, but none of this matters when a cleric/mage multiclass can shove triple Implosion into a Chain Contingency on sight.
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>>539210069
>Larian could learn some lessons about fun
Such as?
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>>539202825
Anon. Two people made that little game. A journal is a luxury. You don't need it and I expect they wanted to focus on the actual gameplay. Do you have some sort of mental disability that impacts your memory? Perhaps you are illiterate, then why would you want a journal to begin with? What gives?
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Avowed is fun
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>>539210873
>A journal is a luxury
Is it tho?
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>>539211113
You can just alt tab and use notepad
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Is there no way to side with Linxia? The dialogue options only seem to funnel towards antagonism at the lodge.
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>>539210579
>a multiclass can do crazy shit in the expansion
Color me surprised. This is about BG2, not ToB.
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>>539211171
I can just not play your game
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>in the expansion
You could acquire them in SoA by hitting enough xp and there was far more than enough xp.
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>>539211171
I can just alt tab and use Paint to roleplay myself playing this game.
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>I can just be an ignorant weg-slurping casul shitter who doesn't even play RPGs and knows nothing of the genre

You already are, child.
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>>539211113
Are you kidding me? Do you seriously read your prewritten journal like it's some kind of good writing piece? Or do you reference it to double check your understanding of what happened/what was said? How often is that? I will reference my journal like one time (max) in a run through a game, but I know I could find my answer online, too. A journal is a luxury.
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>>539211614
>but I know I could find my answer online
So why have dialogue at all if you can just find out what the story is about online?
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>>539211614
I use the journal to remember what tasks I'm working on
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I like being able to make map notes like in Underrail
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>>539211614
>but I know I could find my answer online,
Oh that's nice
I guess we don't need maps either since you can just check a fanmade one online)
I guess we don't need dialogue logs either since you can just find a datamined version online
And we certainly don't need a journal that takes one dev hour to implement because you have just to perfectly remember everything that's been said in the game even if you take a break between sessions and if you can't well there's always a walkthrough online
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>>539211237
I think you gotta give neutral answers some time. She operates on different wavelength of lawtism so trying to remind her about your authority only antagonizes her.

I had a guide screencapped, but I can't seem to find it, sadly. It's insanely specific route to get her approval.
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>>539212043
>even if you take a break between sessions
Well if you're a wageslave that's your problem
Devs made their vame for true rpg fans who can afford to play their favourite game for 12 hours straight
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>>539211483
>SoA
>3 million XP cap
Stop being this stupid. You need the expansion to reach level 9 spells and HLAs. Furthermore, a cleric/mage gets 1 slot for level 7 spells at the cap in SoA and a wisdom of 25 is required for one more slot of level 7 spells. It would be impossible for a c/m to cast a triple implosion chain contingency even with a scroll, without cheating in SoA.
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>Outer Worlds 2 comes out in 1.5 months
Hope I can finish Latrine Slop 3 before that.
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>>539211534
Then why don't you do that instead of shit up the board?
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There is no xp cap in the original non-EE game. I've never played EE, but I played the original and could use HLAs in SoA quite early. This is especially true, if you don't run a full party.
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>>539212043
>one dev hour
What is that? Like 40 normal hours? Quit your bitching about the little indie game without a journal. Nobody wants to hold your hand.
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>>539212446
Your stupidity is intentional. You were playing ToB, not SoA.
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>>539212507
It's one hour divided by as many interns you put on the task, it doesn't take long at all
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>>539211761
I would look online if I didn't understand what a NPC said due to a misclick or something and I didn't have a convenient quicksave on hand. If I knew I didn't have a journal I would play differently.
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Retarded child, I blasted Firkraag with magic missiles to death under Time Stop and Improved Alacrity (which is HLA) before you were even born. I had ToB installed, but I was using HLAs in SoA just fine.
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>>539212808
>I was playing ToB in SoA
>See I'm right
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Having ToB installed means you can just get ToB HLAs in SoA, retard. Just having ToB installed gives you access to them as long as you get enough xp.
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>known cheater has been cheating for decades, says cheating is fine and you're too stupid to get why
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>cheating
>just install the full game SoA + ToB
>this allows you to get ToB HLAs in SoA as soon as you get enough xp which can be easily done even with a full party
>using in-game mechanics present in an unmodded game is """cheating"""

This retarded child is mindbroken, bring in the next one.
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>>539210871
For them, they're gonna need to start from the ground up on pretty much everything not relating to the combat system. They didn't develop a very strong foundation of fundamentals and it shows. They cut way too many corners on important things like itemization & inventory management (stores, loot containers, acquisition and management of items, etc.), in-game boundaries associated with character builds, quicksave and RNG, stealth (they know nothing of stealth and thievery in general) and generally learning how to flesh out a game's middle and ending, instead of front-loading everything. Their writing style could use some help, too. They have a problem with taking anything seriously, in a genuine sort of way. Although that may simply be an issue with the localizers they use and not necessarily the original writers, but could also be an issue with theur testosterone levels being too low in general.
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>>539212132
Linzi owes me sex
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Tfw no drunk smooching with Idira
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>>539214212
Also, do you think her whispers give Idira tips during sex?
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>>539213884
>fun
>starts rambling about inventory management
What the fuck are you on about
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>>539206797
>he doesn't play as a woman
Maybe you're the one who's gay.
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>>539213681
If you wanted to talk about ToB, you should've began with that. Don't act like you're some superior form of intelligence when you couldn't even get your acronym right.
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>>539214489
>You're having fun playing a game, but a gorilla is raping you indignantly while you play. If you stop playing he stops raping.
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>>539215192
not a single sane person thinks that way you're unhinged
>oh yeah DOS2 was such a fun game, would have been a 10/10 if not for the clunky inventory
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>>539215271
Ironic post.
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>If you wanted to talk about ToB
No, retarded child, I wanted to talk about the whole game which is SoA + ToB. The game in which you can use ToB HLAs in SoA. You've been utterly dismantled and shat on, go bury yourself and don't stink the thread up, subhuman.
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How's the inventory management of bg2
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>>539215626
Then you should have said BG2 ToB. How is anyone supposed to know you specifically mean the original game with the expansion installed if you don't communicate that? Protip: nobody will know for sure due to a lack of pertinent information.
>utterly dismantled and shat on
You haven't dismantled anything besides your own fleeting reputation.
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>>539215712
Actually not that bad, all things considered. Par the course for pretty much every game made during that era. The reason why it doesn't tip into torture territory is because there are no superfluous items in BG2. They all serve a purpose and you can value them at a glance. If anyone is having trouble with inventory management in BG2 it's because they don't know how to use hotkeys or they are having trouble using consumables efficiently and effectively.
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>Then you should have said BG2 ToB
No, retarded trash, I didn't have to mention ToB at all, because the full game involves SoA + ToB and you can get ToB HLAs in SoA as early as you can get enough xp which is dependent on your number of party members. You could get them super early in SoA while going solo, but you would still get them way before the end in SoA even with a full party as long as you weren't skipping content.

In fact, you've spouted verbal diarrhea that is objectively wrong, you shit-eating buffoon:

>>539211240
>a multiclass can do crazy shit in the expansion

Except you don't have to go into ToB or even Watcher's Keep (which is technically accessible "before ToB", but you need ToB installed) to use HLAs, you fucking mongoloid. You can use them in SoA just by accumulating enough xp. Get that through your shit-stained mongrel skull.
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>Made it to half way ACT 3 Wrath finder Path of the Righterous
>Suddenly random encounter mobs have like upward of 30 AC
>My modifier is only +15 something
>Which means i have to roll atleast 15 out of 20 to hit them
>Combat consists entirely of "Miss miss miss miss miss" and "you failed to pierce the enemy's spell penetration"

Hey what the fuck
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>>539216928
welcome to 3.5E or "improved" 3.5E which is Pathfinder, enjoy your stay
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>>539216583
Your autism/mental disability is diagnosable. I hope you know that, anon.
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>>539217068
I don't remember regular 3.5e being this bloated, in tabletop games.
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You shat out: "a multiclass can do crazy shit in the expansion." This is objectively wrong: a multiclass can do "crazy shit" even in the main SoA campaign without setting foot into the expansion.

I understand it hurts being utterly dismantled and shat on, but keep in mind that you can alleviate the mental anguish and anal devastation by snapping your fucking neck, shit-eating tranimal.
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>>539216928
>+8 sacred from guarded hearth
>+3 shared ranger bonus
>+6 stat bonuses
>+6 basic attack bonus
>+1 weapon focus
>+4 outflank

>shatter defenses to reduce AC
>evil eye to reduce AC
>greater dispel magic to remove buffs

Even just using the bare minimum buffs you should have no problem dealing with enemies that have up to AC 50. Once you hit the 90 range things become a serious problem, but even then you should have other way of killing things than just hitting them with a stick. Swarms and magic should always be on the table.
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>>539216928
Your dedicated party fox proning the entire encounter with Hideous Laughter + Best Jokes?
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It was smart of them to make it possible to disable the furry form of kitsune. Just awful to have to look at.
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>>539217730
>a multiclass can do crazy shit in the expansion." This is objectively wrong: a multiclass can do "crazy shit" even in the main SoA campaign without setting foot into the expansion.
It's really a disservice to humanity that they don't teach logic inn school anymore.
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Why didn't Mizora sing for us?
https://youtu.be/kuZHTwNdu58
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There's an appropriately titled containment board for furshit on here.
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>retarded subhuman shitter spouts factually wrong bullshit since he knows nothing of the game
>gets proven wrong and destroyed with ironclad facts and logic
>"m-muh l-logic!"
>when he was specifically trying to make a point that HLAs come online too late to be useful
Yes, the same logic I used to shove a footlong turdlog down your mongoloid throat.
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>>539214059
Linzi owes me sex, marriage and children.
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Do you kill this nigga or leave him be with his waifu?
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>>539219579
This is a man who blinded the village artist when she pissed him off and probably committed countless other torture and murder during his time as chief of that village. Add to that the stupid cunt literally asked for it. Real low point for Daeran.
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>>539215712
It's literally the same as in Larian games, only minus the insane amount of useless junk items.
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>>539178179
Fine, bend over. I can do a quick in'n'out before the diplomatic council
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>>539220020
Daeran values personal freedom and ability to do whatever you want above all else. Of course he would consider being a plant a fate worse than death.
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What do they call her, the axe?
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>>539186365
Because owlshart can't into good storytelling and rt have highlighted that. All of the game is a just a string of random setpieces with barely any logic or cohesiveness behind them. They exist just because someone at owlshart thought "hey, this might be cool to do"
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>>539221045
Well not that anon but that guy literally chose it himself. Can you blame the demon when the guy begged for it
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>>539186964
>He's just having fun.
He didn't seem entertained when I shoved his gun up his arse and turned his troupe into worm food
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*muffled voice* I'll yield to none
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>>539189643
Murderhobos dump Int
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>>539193046
Pitax was unnecessary. It should have been cut entirely
>>539194028
Pentiment
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>>539206797
Daeran is basically a woman anyway. He's the ojou-sama waifu you've always wanted
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>>539221454
He wanted to stay with the demon he didn't ask to be turned into a flower.
Either way Daeran's reaction is completely understandable.
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>>539206797
Just play as a woman then its not gay
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Neverwinter Nights 2 was good.
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>>539199145
>as good as Owlcat's stuff
Name owlcat romances you consider "good" to give us a frame of reference. Because, you know, I actually think they only have, like, a couple of good ones, and the rest are trash.
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>>539174183
My kineticist merc is an oread. I would've preferred a genasi but I don't have a problem with his movement speed one way or the other, he just stands and shoots.
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>>539219579
Killed him
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Do women that like Marazhai have a good or bad relationship with their father?
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>>539197024
Bro wtf that's extremely homo. Go have sex with wendog or camcam, Daeran is for female KC and his cock has NEVER been inside a man's asshole! EW!
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>>539222389
>Name owlcat romances you consider "good" to give me an excuse to call your taste bad
He could name any one romance and you'd still say it's bad, let's be real.
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>>539223038
this
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>>539218384
>outflank on all your melee
gross
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>>539223038
Holy based and femalepilled
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>>539223412
Him dropping Yrliet is still really funny
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>>539223412
I get that he's not exactly the best judge of character, or even really understands his companions at all, but that's such a fucking misread of Idira. Actual Idira just gets amused and hyped at any romance going on.
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>>539223038
But he told me it wasn't gay
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>>539219579
Greybor is so cool and professional. I want to be like him when I'm middle-aged.
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>>539223731
>Idira just gets amused and hyped at any romance going on
It's Argenta
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Welp, Daeran is officially ruined. I've had sex with him, now this fag had sex with him, he's used goods. Time to do Lann's quest and start treating Daeran coldly, sometimes go into hysteria, and in general be mean to him until I finally decide to dump him in public and probably betray him to the inquisitor as well while letting Lann be my emotionally safe rebound.
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>>539223957
Even before their befriending arc they will both admit they don't actually hate each other all that much and mostly lash out because they assume the other does.
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>>539224101
what
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>>539223038
Daeran's bussy is for Big Angelic Cock
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>>539223091
Sure, but I also can't possibly recommend him something if I don't know what he likes, since all owlshart romances are different. For what it's worth I think Dragon age 1 through 3 has some good romances
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>>539224101
BPD is one hell of a drug
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>>539224101
Lann's fantasy
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Bellara's romance mogs all others. It's unfathomably CUTE and wholesome. The scene near the end where she reads you her letter almost had me die of HNNNNNNNNG.
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>>539224818
Her name's Xio? Really?
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Bellara is fucking ugly like hella fucking repulsive even by DEI standards
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>Bellara is fucking ugly
This is the failproof method of identifying an incel who has never sniffed a woman.
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>>539224101
>he's used goods
Promiscuity is pretty normal for gays.
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Why didn't Froggy kill himself like he promised if Troonguard flopped? How can a man not keep his word?
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>>539197024
>No homo
Nigga u gay
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Why didn't shit-eating owlsloppers kill themselves like they promised if Veilguard were to be a massive critical and financial success? How can shit-eating animals not keep their word?
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>>539225903
>How can a man not keep his word?
Easy, just be a mentally ill german and move goalposts
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>>539223412
Has the rape of Yrlikek's character came to an end, bros?
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>uhmm more people played our big budget AAA game than this indie game
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>>539225903
He lives out of spite. Why would he kill himself?
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>>539226118
How old is this pic?
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If Nenio was romanceable Froggy would have loved Owlcat forever
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>>539225903
Do you expect a degenerate to stand for anything? Do you think the laws and rules that govern civilized society mean anything to an outlaw?
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Yes, more people played an actually good RPG than your dogshit owlslop no one cares about or even has heard of. Cope.
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All waifufags are delusional...
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>studio admits it was a big flop that only got 50% of the expected sales
>uhmm it's actually not a flop because it had more players on launch than an indie game
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>>539168484
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>>539224696
>For what it's worth I think Dragon age 1 through 3 has some good romances
I will murder you if you say Leliana is good
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>studio admits
>"If I cook up some bullshit quotes no one actually said they'll believe me!"
lol

Veilguard utterly shits on owlslop and was more successful than any previous DA entry, it's unanimously agreed upon and supported by hard player numbers. Cope.
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>>539226935
I won't. But Morrigan, Alistair and Zevran are all good. I don't like Leliana in general, so I've never did her romance
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How come the game died immediately after launch while people are still playing Rogue Trader?
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>>539213884
>they know nothing of stealth and thievery in general
can you steal items from an npc in any owlcat game?
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>>539227442
Shitposting aside I wonder how many people hateplayed veilguard
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>>539227291
>I don't like Leliana in general
Cringe
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>normal people
>play the game once, enjoy the story, characters and roleplaying experience
>move on with your life

>owlslopping shit-eaters
>autistically play the same game 24/7 for years making their dollies kiss each other since they have no life to speak of

It's pretty, simple, actually: the player demographics are actually quite different. One is a game for people, the other - for shit-eating subhumans.
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>>539227442
Those 921 players? All frogozoid
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>>539227602
Near everyone? I genuinely have not seen people be completely on board with it even on other places. Anything that's mildly positive is bunched with quotation marks.
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>AAA game set in an established and popular franchise made by an old and beloved studio gets more players on launch
>immediately dies after people realise it's shit
>studio admits it flopped by more than 50%
>it's actually successful
People are actually playing Rogue Trader while nobody plays troonguard
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>AAA game set in an established and popular franchise made by an old and beloved studio gets more players on launch
>game performs better than any previous entry in the franchise
>it's actually successful
Correct.
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Veilguard is the GOT s8 of rpgs
something so shitty it soured the opinion of the entire franchise/show and was memory holed within a year
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>normal people play the game once
So normal people didn't play bg3?
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>>539219438
Nothing could be more pussy than to passive aggressively spew insults and profanities at large instead of at the person you are upset with. Enjoy your crippling mental illness and femininity.
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>>539227462
I have no idea. I haven't played that slop.
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>EA said it flopped
>it's actually successful
Now that's just denying reality, what level of schizo is this?
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>>539228173
>Enjoy your crippling mental illness and femininity.
He already does.
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Proceed to your most impressive cope.
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I present to you all:
the hero of the stolen lands
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>>539228386
It didn't flop because it sold more than Inquisition or Rogue Trader did. What EA says is irrelevant.
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>>539228386
3 million isn't even a large number for a game like dragon age. Guess even the kikes knew it was shit and was gonna underperform. What they didn't know is how badly it was gonna underperform
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>barely a 1 million copies
>for an AAA game that was developed for a decade
>not a massive flop of TORtanic proportions
do krauts live in a different reality or is it just froggy
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>>539219579
I kill him before he ever gets to the plant-state
>>539221454
No he didn't. He begged to be by her side forever, and she turned him into this.
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>not well enough for EA
>if it doesn't sell 60 million copies, it didn't sell well because that's what the shareholders demand :)

Meanwhile, in reality, it mogged every previous franchise entry. Proceed directly to snapping your dumb fucking neck.
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>10 years
>100s of millions of dollars
lmao
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>>539228450
You do realise that all previous games were sold outside of Steam on their release right
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>tranny's gape 3
>literal weg with hardcore bear sex
>normal people
lol
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>>539228386
>1.5m Sales
>they wanted 3 mil
Can you read?
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>>539228386
>sold less than flopthem
OH NO NO NO BIOBROS....
NOT LIKE THIS.....
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>>539228858
You should go for a walk
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>>539228816
>Buy Inquisition off Steam
>Still have to go through Origin
I bought it at 90% off some years back so I can replay it. Refunded it and just pirated it again.
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>>539228790
I had no idea it was this bad, holy shit
and you don't even control your invincible *2* companions?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>539228816
Thus you will have no problem proving that they sold more units within the same timeframe. Go.

Protip: your dogshit opinion does not count as proof.
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>>539228790
So... this is nu-Bioware... not bad...
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>>539228386
>reviewed well
yes it was truly a return to form
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>owlsloppers coping at inarguable critical acclaim
Concession accepted.
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>>539229395
Holy FUCK they all used this commonly used phrase for sequel reviews?
How deep does it go, /b/ros.... the boys on /pol/ are going to really dig into this breaking story....
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Veilguard ruined all the lore and sanitized the setting, awful
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>>539229525
Inquisition*
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>>539229525
I stopped caring after Origins desu
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This is /crpgg/ for discussing CRPGs.
Just like Mario Party would be off-topic here, so is Failguard. It is not a CRPG.

Please keep your posts on topic.
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>>539229595
no vg revealed everything and its all Solas's fault
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>>539229002
>Thus you will have no problem proving
So you admit that simply taking Steam numbers is disingenuous.
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forget the numbers
forget the steam charts
forget the reviews
just focus on how fugly this "elf" is >>539225590
this is froggy's type lol
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>sanitized
More like de-incelified the setting. Instead of flaunting gratuitous tits and blood - the underage incel's definition of "mature and gritty", Veilguard focuses on character relationships and roleplaying to deliver a dramatic narrative without the need to devolve into the obscene and vulgar.
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mystery nigga spider illuminati
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I admit Steam is the only source with actual hard data that can be used for any kind of comparison and I also admit that your cope is delicious.
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>>539229595
Inquisition proved it was the Jews fault though.
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>>539229893
lmaoing
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Who would win on Unfair in Act 1? a "meta" build brainstormed by CRPG bro, or a shitty pet build?
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amazing how you can leave this general for a year and nothing changed
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I accept your shitstained concession.
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When you look at the very root of the issue, the only real complaint incels have against Veilguard is the fact that it doesn't have unrealistic supermodel bimbo fuckdolls to drool over and that it has no sex scenes (written or animated). That's all these animals can think about and that's all their so-called """criticism""" boils down to. They have no clue what roleplaying is and they don't care, they just want their fuckdollies to kiss each other.
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>Only
*cough*
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>>539221946
I know, and I both love and hate him for it.
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>>539230190
i did unfair act 1 with 3 people. soccer with a pet. just banished the eyeless at the end in 1 round
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It's also 1.5 million PLAYERS, not copies sold. So it counts people on game pass, people that got it for free and people that refunded it. It's probably closer to 1 million because if the number of players and copies sold were close enough they would have used the term "copies sold" rather than players but they didn't so it's a large gap.
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>>539224101
>>539224818
Respect for actually roleplaying a woman, if its the Mephala-fag with the male harem party.
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It's just first 3 months, retardo. Even by vastly inaccurate guestimates like vginsights the game has sold 1.25 million copies on Steam alone. Then there are consoles and Epic?

And yes, you can't just throw away the money earned through gamepass, only a disingenuous subhuman shit-eater like yourself would do that. Cope.
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>>539226118
Here's your (You), does it feel good? Yeah, that's right, who's a good little /v/tard? Now please fuck off.
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Can you fucking retards just respond to each other properly
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>no actual arguments
Your shitstained concession has already been accepted.
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Well, Ekun certainly... sorted the problem out.
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It's pointless to argue with reality deniers like Froggy, it's like trying to convince a zionist that it's wrong to murder Palestinian children. You just can't.
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I'm glad to have a kingdom of problem solvers at it!
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Why does frog talk and behave like a woman
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you owlsloppers are schizophrenic. i've seen 6 different posters using that word but you just cope every one disagreeing with you is one person
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>>539232425
Diet high in estrogen, many such cases
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>>539232336
>it's wrong to murder Palestinian children
>Nooo why are you killing demons!!!
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>>539231928
Why does it trigger people when posts don't have a direct reply even though it's obvious who's talking to who
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>reality deniers
>when all the actual hard data is in my favor: player counts and actual sales numbers not pulled out of someone's ass or misrepresented (e.g. first 3 months sales presented as total current sales)

I accept your tearful concession.
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>>539232839
Because it's cowardly. It's an attempt at either trying to get the last word in without the other person noticing, or to appear to be a third party chiming in to agree with yourself.
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>1.5 million
>not considered a flop for an AAA game

>>539233024
it's just laziness most of the time at least for me
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I thought you people were more sane than /bgg/
>>539232839
Because, retard, you can hide conversation chains. You can't hide retards sperging out at each other in some desperate attempt to prevent the other from feeling gratification at (You), even though they know you're talking to them. It's solely about your own ego
You're publicly masturbating and asking why people are bothered.
Kill yourself, no one will mourn you and your parents will quietly rejoice.
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>1.5 million
>he keeps misrepresenting the data even while being called out on his misrepresentation with proof being shoved down his throat

It's 1.25 million sales on Steam alone. Add the console sales. Add Epic sales. Add gamepayy money. Then snap your fucking subhuman neck.

1.5 million players is data from the first 3 months only.
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>>539233085
>it's just laziness
It literally takes more effort to respond without quoting by either scrolling to either end of the thread for the neutral reply button or manually deleting the quotation link after you click to the post you wanted to reply to.
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>>539232839
What anon said and it makes it a pain to read/follow
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>>539232158
Ekun is so inbelievably based. He should have been my husband
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>>539233246
>data from the first 3 months only.
>data from the first 4 months only.
...
>data from the first 2 years only.
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Normal people don't need to scroll anything, we have photographic memory and remember every post in detail after glancing over it once. You sound like a low IQ subhuman, I bet you don't even have a STEM PhD.
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For me?
It's the Cyclopean mountain resort.
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>>539233227
>Because, retard, you can hide conversation chains.
yeah I guess that's valid though I doubt it changes anything when froggy is going to indirectly reply to every post anyway
>>539233267
nah it takes less effort, there are plenty of generals that follow this unspoken rule
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i started the no reply trend, owlsloppers. I own your asses mentally and the thread OP
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>got assravaged so hard after his data misrepresentation has been exposed that he's now resorting to clownshowmanship

I accept your assmad concession.
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Veilguard is not going to keep selling copies year after year like the classics lmao it's an anomaly in that regard
nuBioware pulled off a scam and nobody is going to be fooled after the thousands of shit reviews it got
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>>539167864
Bestia might be the first black man I will romance in a game
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>some vtard dumbfuck pulls a prediction straight out of his prolapsed putried shithole

*yawn*

Didn't even read.
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10 years
100s of millions of dollars
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>>539233809
>nobody is going to be fooled
If biodrones are still willing to buy bioware games after anthem, mass effect 3 and a, then there is no hope for them. They will keep buying
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>>539233934
1 Bellara
1 Taash
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>>539233830
Is he good
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yet to see an rpg tap into the thug appeal for a negro romance. they just gotta let the shoe drop and have wyll beating and killing women
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Nah, noreply posting is a time-honored /gsg/ tradition. It is the perfect method to express your passive aggression and disdain.
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>>539233503
Go away, Ntavi.
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>>539234095
He's a based brainlet. I haven't romanced him, but I might if I replay the game
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>>539234145
>/gsg/
>passive aggression
As if these cucks are capable of active aggression
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I thought it started in /osg/ desu
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Why is roguelike general so full of bitter and angry faggots
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>>539234107
Jacob cheats on femshep and knocks up another girl whilst she's in jail. Its based though cause what kind of retard plays as femshep let alone romances Jacob of all people.
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>>539233246
Just dance 3 sold 9.92 million copies
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if you didn't play as femshep you're a faggot
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If you let Cassia use her powers on you after rescuing her in act 3 does it start a romance? On the one hand she's saying that it will help fix some of the damage that was done but on the other it feels way too intimate when they describe it as her touching and reaching out to you.
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>>539234107
Because that would be considered racist. Jacob does come close with cheating though
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>>539234787
They only post after losing a 5+ hour long run due to a missclick
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>>539234946
any shootings planned xir?
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>>539235198
>considered racist
Jacob's quest is literally looking for his deadbeat rapist father whose been drugging and sexually assaulting female crew members by turning them into literal retards.
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>>539234107
I don't thinking anyone is actually attracted to that.
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>>539228564
That's not how it works. It flopped because it lost money
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>>539235418
Yeah but that's his dad!
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a token black companion in an all-white game is like the rap segment that interrupts the anime song
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>>539232158
>Spends 7 BP for some random assassin
And people complain about Linzi being "thief"...
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>>539236129
Bro? Your Samurai Champloo?
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>it lost money
And now you're going to provide a reliable source for the budget.
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>>539233024
In cases like these, when its so obviously a psychotic desperately farming (You)s and attention in general, its best not to engage with them at all.
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>target is 3 million
>gets only 50%
>it flopped
>uhmm it actually made money
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>target set by EA shreholders
lol

>still massively outperforms every previous DA game
lmao

>completely shits on owlslop
AHAHAHA
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Two facts:
1. Failtard flopped, hard.
2. Failtard is not a CRPG and is off-topic in this general.
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NOOO NOOOO IT WAS WOKE IT WENT BROKE

*hops on owlslop game with trannies*
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lol trust me bro shareholders don't mean anything bro it was a massive success bro the game pass bro trust me it made billions
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Two facts:
1. You eat shit.
2. Veilguard mogged owlslop and every other DA game.
3. Veilguard has more roleplaying depth than owlslop.

I guess that's 3, but owlsloppers can't read let alone count anyway lmao
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>>539236819
>>539236860
>>539236896
>>539236905
>>539236984
stop replying to yourself
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>owslopping subhumans mindbroken so hard they break down into a fit of hysterical, autistic, impotent rage the precise moment they are asked to provide a source for the game's budget so that they can back up their claims of the game "flopping"
kek
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So uh, miss Froggy yet?
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I don't know what's worse: picking the most pozzed (((AAA))) game in existence (Veilguard) as your bait, or the anons falling for and engaging with it. Probably one schizo samefagging.
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>Only 390 posts in so this is not gonna stop any time soon just because we change thread.
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bro trust me this game that was in dev hell for a decade only cost peanuts to make bro trust me I won't tell you the budget but it made a huge profit bro
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Good thread today guys
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>EA sets a purposely high target that they know they won't reach so they have to announce a huge flop in the earnings call
No company has ever done this
>still massively outperforms every previous DA game
How is this even slightly relevant? Gaming is much larger now than it was a decade ago but so is the budget for Troonguard. It was a AAA with a huge budget in development for years. 1.5 million PLAYERS is not a lot of revenue as we know from comparing it to other big budget AAA games. This is such an insane cope that I genuinely don't think you believe it yourself.
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>>539237160
Did you lose your grocery store stocking job finally? Surprised it lasted so long. I suppose any integration with society you attempt will be doomed to fail, but still it's gotta hurt to get a solid reminder like that.
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>>539228386
Don't think of it as a flop, but as posthumous vindication for the two previous games.
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>giga publishers having unrealistic expectations while comparing other games directly to their giga earning franchises in terms of investment potential is not a problem in the industry
lol

>how is a game outperforming every other entry in the franchise relevant to the discussion about the game not flopping
Owlsloppers are not thinking animals.

>Gaming is much larger
More copies sold is more copies sold. Cope and seethe.

>budget
Post the budget data. Not your asstimates pulled out of your prolapsed shithole, but actual sources providing direct quotes from the publishers or devs.

The only thing I lost was a fat turdlog on your forehead.
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>>539236896
>>539236984
>>539237160
>>539237954
Brother, you've been going at this for many hours now. It's time to stop.
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>>539236258
Linzi floppers
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I still wish I could romance Amiri. She was the best.
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If, hypothetically speaking, you're building a party from a roster of units that can't be customised to any meaningful degree, but you as an in-game entity still can choose between different decisions and dialogue options, is it still CRPG?
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>The Veilguard underperformed compared to prior Dragon Age games—BioWare's best-selling series, with Inquisition racking up 11 million players according to former studio producer Mark Darrah
At least it sold 2... no, 3 million copies!!
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>comparing 3 months of sales to years of sales
kek these animals are really desperate to eat shit

>former studio producer
>former
AHAHAHA
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>TWO MORE WEEKS UNTIL FAILGUARD OUTSELLS INQUISITION
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>no arguments
Your concession has already been languishing in my accepted concession drawer for hours.
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So Anthem had a sales goal of 6 million and it only reached 5 million and was considered such a huge flop that further development was cancelled.

So how is a AAA big budget RPG that only reached half of the target of 3 million considered not a flop? Did Troonguard's development hell over many years somehow have a significantly smaller budget?
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>still can't provide any budget data
>still can't admit that EA and other big publishers setting unrealistic expectations for their non-flagship games is a problem
Didn't read, retard.
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>>539238972
>Did Troonguard's development hell over many years somehow have a significantly smaller budget
Bold of you to assume they actually developed it for longer than a year.
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>most sales don't happen during the first few weeks of launch
How did Veilguard do something that has never happened in video game history?
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froggy is the stunted development child that keeps repeating source? source? source? source? even as every news outlet reports that the stock market is failing
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>Actually EA is lying when they say the game is a flop, they actually made a lot of money
It's literally illegal to lie to investors, retard
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1.5 million copies
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>most sales
Retarded lie. There is a peak in sales, but peak = most sales. A game can keep seeling for years and years just like you've been seething over Veilguard being a financial success for years kek.
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I've just made a tangerine sponge cake, guys. Gonna have a slice and a cup of tea while I'm catching up on this thread, I'm sure it will be a great read
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>=
*!=
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>>539239489
In frogotroon's defense just because something is illegal doesn't mean companies aren't gonna do it
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good crpgs keep selling for years because they don't have a shelf life so to speak
failhard is not a good crpg and the reviews destroyed it
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1. Stop engaging
2. Don't give it a name
3. Take a break from the internet for a bit if you're having trouble with these

This is a very bad thread.
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>illegal to lie to investors
Only when you get caught :)
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>>539239671
They have no reason to lie though. When has a game company ever stated that a game of theirs was a flop when it was actually profitable? Why is troonguard somehow the first game ever to have done this?
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Why would EA lie about VG flopping. They get nothing from that
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>>539239841
>This is a very bad thread.
4chan is dying
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>>539239538
It'd be nice to be the kind of person that can have just a slice. When I make sponge cake before it even goes in the oven I've had like an eight of the batter, and when its done and set I'll easily eat half of it with a big glass of milk no problem.
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>>539239984
>>539239854

>>539239841
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>>539240097
Don't tell me what to do
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>>539239854
I know, I was just saying "it's illegal!" isn't a good argument when it comes to big corps.
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>mixing up the definitions of flop and the game being profitable
Kek these animals are getting dumber by the hour.

"""Flop""" in EA's eyes = not not doing Cowadoody or Asscreed numbers regardless of what your game actually is. This has no bearing on whether the game is actually profitable or not, because EA and other big publishers operate on the basis of whether the game is profitable ENOUGH since every dollar not invested into a high-yield cowadoody or asscreed game is a dollar """wasted""" due to low returns.

Retarded fucking children.
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I would rather filter/ban froggy but if he's going to spam we might as well dunk on his schizo ass
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Except the only thing getting dunked on is your forehead (with my turdlogs).
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CONTROVERSIAL OPINION
solasta>baldurs gate 3
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Why do they call him frog if he's not even French
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Veilguard did so badly it killed Dragon Age and all the staff was fired or moved to other studios.
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the fuck is a """solasta""""
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>>539240478
For avatarposting
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LMFAO break enchantment just dispels all the good buffs and leaves all the bad shit. Thanks.
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>owlsloppers still can't provide a source for the budget
Kek it's fun watching them flail in their autistic infantile frenzy screaming "FLOOOP" at the top of their lungs while owlslop itself gets gigamogged into a living game by the very game they deem a "flop" AHAHAHAHA
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>game that made a profit
>team disbanded, shipped to other studios, no future games planned, reputation ruined forever

>games that flopped
>studio thriving, multiple DLC+games in production, reputation at all time high
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>The final Kibbles fight
Fuck me, Bladedancers being OP finally caught up with me
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The funny thing is that not even the latest asscreed did 3 million sales in 3 months.

Shows how fucking delusional the suits at EA are and of course it also highlights owlslopper retardation since they lap that shit up.
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Honestly I think he's Jewish, I swear there's a similar poster that constantly defends zionists and pro-israel parties on /int/. It's like the same type of argumentative style. I think he might genuinely be a jewish schizo
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>>539240541
One of the best crpgs of all time, its in the OP for a reason :^)
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>>539240918
>It's like the same type of argumentative style.
kvetching? pretty ironic for a homegrown kraut
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what's his build?
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>>539240918
Call me a rodent kike all you want, but never compare me to froggy
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>game that made a profit
>had its team move on to another legendary franchise in the face of Mass Effect
>no need for any DLC since the game was finished and what's even more impressive - incredibly optimized for an UE5 game right at launch

>games that flopped
>dogshit player numbers
>teams consisting of subhumans living in some shithole getting paid pennies
>game bugged to shit on launch, missing countless features which are being sold back piecewise to owlsloppers in DLC

Veilguard won. Owlslop lost. Cope.
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>>539241091
charisma monk
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Huh, it's actually true.
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>>539240918
this type of shit is just as bad as his posts.
Just shut the fuck up.
Ignore, post better content, report off-topic when applicable.
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>>539238309
Nah.
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>>539241047
I don't really know how to describe it but like the posting style or whatever is almost identical. Whenever I see his posts I just see the resemblance, it's not the same person but it's the same style of deranged schizo posting and way of arguing.
>>539241198
Uhmm, what? What did he mean by this?
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>>539241557
Ubi has been on a roll
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>>539241557
Copies vs players, huge distinction
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>Game flopped, because it didn't do what we want asscreed to do.
>*sounds of asscreed not being able to do what EA suits want it to do*
Kek, and then owlslopping shit-eaters will say that the suit sales expectations and criteria for not being a """flop""" were realistic AHAHAHA

Dumb fucking animals. Literally sucking EA cock to spite a game that denied them fuckdollies. I think we're at the point where incels should behanged on sight.
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You don't have to respond. It'll wear itself out eventually.
Always remember that shitposting is inherently a social activity, this is really just an appeal for attention.
You don't have to give it.
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Daisy > Balduran
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>>539239538
I made a bean and split pea soup and I'll eat it with some toast and cheese
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>no arguments
I accept your shitstained concession. My drawer is already full of them, but I'll accept it just the same.
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>>539241608
>post better content
If two Bhaalspawn fuck, would their kid be a Bhaalspawn too?
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>>539242746
Nobody cares
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>>539242746
Imoen...
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Have sex with your sister
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Why hasn't Obsidian made another dungeon siege yet.
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Obsidian's trajectory from PoE (kickstarted crpg renaissance) to Avowed (soulless arpg slop) should be documented in history books
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Is Inquisaition the only game in which you can actually marry your love interest on screen?
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>>539242928
Yer a queer fellow.
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>>539242987
why? on whose orders?
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>>539243541
Your sister's
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Seelah definitely molested ember.
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>>539243672
I have a succubus sister?!
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>>539243770
Yes.
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Most people with an incest fetish never had a sister, and I feel sorry for them, I do, they're either only children, or grew up with only brothers, so they develop all kinds of degenerate fetishes that well-adjusted, tax-paying members of society don't
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>unironically being proud of paying taxes
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>>539244432
You have to be 18+ to be on this website
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He's not wrong. Only cucks into financial domination like paying taxes. Or underage children who have never worked a day in their lives.
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>>539244504
I am which is why I do what every real adult does. Tax evasion.
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>>539237315
this probably is him
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Don't fuck Cleopatra.
Focus on what's good for Rome.
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why did he abandon yrlikek?
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>>539245341
SHARTgenta.
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>>539245341
kill yourself
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>>539245341
People kept bullying him for drawing yirlet porn so he switched to argenta.
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>>539240895
>The trick was to just let her dodgetank the entire encounter while sniping with the rest.
Ah
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>>539245318
What about my sister?
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>>539244605
>stop paying taxes
>roads go to shit
>everything else goes to shit
>"guys we should pool our money to fix some of this shit"
>mfw
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>>539246356
I don't see how this affects Rome. Do as you please.
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>>539246613
It's never not funny.
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>>539246356
kill yourself also
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>Dude I hate taxes
New Vegas players be like
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>>539245318
Rome? What did Rome ever do for me? FUCK ROME!!
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I dislike argenta, she is low iq,loud, aggressive, trigger happy and barley has a character arc.
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>>539246613
Obviously someone else should pay taxes. Someone who isn't based like me.
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>>539246795
But she's sexy and loves the Emperor???
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>>539246654
>>539246678
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>>539246795
if argenta was seelah colored, people would be complaining about her like crazy.
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>>539246613
and what if your roads are shit but you're still paying?
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>>539247254
Then clearly we're not squeezing the blood out of the common man.
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Ranger BVLL here imagine being a society cuck and paying taxes.
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>>539247254
Kill some politicians until you find one that will not steal from the treasury
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>>539247356
Enjoy dying from an infection
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Mutts love paying taxes and yet muttland has one of the worst infrastructures in the entire civilized world.
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Ranger BVLL wins because pets
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>>539246613
>>everything else goes to shit
That's the goal though. Only from there can you restart, and create a rational society with a sensible constitution and where only the educated elite has voting rights. In a decade or two you can rebuild all necessary infrastructure. Then in another couple decades give women and barely sentient "adults" voting rights again and watch an insidious minority undermine and subvert your entire system, until eventually it all falls apart again. And repeat. The ride never ends.
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>>539247658
It's by design btw.
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I could never really get into Rome as a setting. Not as classic or as adventurous as ancient Greece or medieval Europe
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>>539247614
>city slicker isn't a master of herbal medicine
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>>539189643
Being brought back bc no one's ever really gone and being reduced to yet another retarded entropy god destroyed his rep
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You know,
if a game is reported to undersell it's expectations by it's own publisher, it's universally lambasted as the worst entry in the franchise, it lost *checks notes* 98% of it's playerbase within a week and never got more, the team that made it has been disbanded and said there probably won't be another DA game for a long time, and even long time fans who liked every other entry hated it, you can just ignore some retard who denies all of these things. If someone denies facts, you can dismiss them as either trolling or delusional and you don't have to dutifully respond every time they post some nonsense. You're either falling for a troll, or entertaining delusions. Neither case is a good use of your time.

As a long time DA fan who bought the game and played it through on release, I know firsthand that it's a genuinely bad game. If I don't trust my own judgement, I can check the steam player charts and see that everyone left immediately after the initial name-recognition fueled sales numbers. I can see that a portion of the positive reviews follow a certain unnatural pattern as if they're following a script. I can see that it's been on sale for over half off almost immediately and for most it's life on steam. Why even bother dutifully biting the bait hook every time someone puts in zero effort and just says "It was actually good and you're just an idiot if you think otherwise".

I'm genuinely sad that it was bad. I preordered the expensive edition because I've loved DA since I was a kid. I even liked 2 and 3 which had their fair share of detractors but they were still good where it mattered most so I liked them. I was prepared for another bumpy ride but still fundamentally good game like the others. So I already had grief when the new one was shit. I don't need someone making a mockery of the dead by pretending it's good. Let it rest. Bioware has lost it's talent and is a walking husk, and DA was murdered. Let's just remember the good times.
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>>539247658
this isn't a problem inherent in taxes, it's that ameritards are literal pig people who squeal and beg to be exploited by their masters
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>>539247658
Thats on purpose, its to keep a certain "urban" group in its designated zone.
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>>539247973
kys Mintharatranny
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Didn't read. Veilguard is the most successful DA game ever and was able to directly compete with a giga franchise such as asscreed in sales (which also failed to meet its sales numbers desired by EA suits). Cope, seethe, shit your pants: the steam numbers >>539228450 are not going to change.
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I will impregnate her.
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>Didn't read
based
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>>539248258
not a CRPG, please keep your posts on topic.
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>not a CRPG
But we're not talking about owltranimal wegslop right now, we're talking about the RPGOTY Veilguard.
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>>539248357
>basic blond bitch
WE are all fucking the science lady with her sexy dick sucking lips.
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>>539248472
evola.png
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>>539248357
Shes psycho, gay, or mentions her ex chad bvlls. Your welcome.
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>>539247973
>retard
WOW
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Which is the hottest Owlcat woman that you can't fuck?
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Who is the Daeran of Rogue Trader (i.e only good romance and best banter with every other companion)?
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>>539248776
Konomi or Nurah.
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>>539247973
Why did they give morrigan such retarded design?
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>>539247973
it's especially strange since the current culprit plays lots of games and should know better. I don't know why he's dying on this hill. he thinks everyone is wrong but him including the longtime fans and other people who play lots of games, and that numbers are "misrepresented" and that EA is lying when they said it underperformed. he has either gone completely insane recently, or he's just bored shitposting
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>>539248990
>why he's dying on this hill.
that's because... he's... an attention WHOOOOORE! anon said calmly
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>>539248776
Amiri
>>539248804
Most of RT banters are dry but Heinrix's romance is great
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>>539248980
I guess they wanted to make her mimic Flemeth but it doesn't work. She doesn't have the hair for it. Anyway, what IS the canon end for her anyway? Did she take the sip?
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>>539248776
Human form nenio
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Blah blah blah blah blah
The slopswine knows who this is addressed to!
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>>539248804
My husband
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>>539249098
He's got some of the better banters with people actually.
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>>539248776
Theodora
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is pokemon a crpg?
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>>539249459
He's the one getting bullied unlike Daeran
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>>539248776
Amiri is universally desired and yet denied but so is Argenta. Owlcat does not like tomboys or tomboy enjoyers
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>>539249641
Sex with Gardevoir.
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>>539249812
>Owlcat does not like tomboys or tomboy enjoyers
Shartmiri is an iconic, they didn't have the permission to make her fuckable.
Argenta is just an act of trolling, because fags spamming muh sororita romance are fucking annoying
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>>539249778
Only by you
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>>539249812
>Owlcat does not like tomboys or tomboy enjoyers
Who is Valerie?
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>>539250032
And by you I mean "femcels". Incels can't make him lose his temper.
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>>539249114
>Did she take the sip?
Doesn't matter at all in Veilguard
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>"EA is lying"
>owlsloppers mindbroken so hard they're strawmanning now
EA is setting unrealistic expectations to their non-flagship games. Expectations that even those same flagship games cannot meet as proven by >>539241557. "Lying" has nothing to do with this although I'm sure EA is lying about many things too.

>numbers are "misrepresented"
Correct. Shit-eating owsloppers are trying to present 3 month sales numbers (1.5 mil copies) as total number of copies sold now which is much higher: at least 1.25 million copies on Steam alone as per VG insights and then we have consoles + Epic + gamepass.

Literal lying subhumans getting their shit pushed in with facts and iron logic.
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>>539250061
She's not a tomboy she doesn't have the right haircut
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>>539250061
A retard
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>>539250336
She at least has higher INT than Amiri I think
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>>539250260
>New design is clearly Flemeth's
>Doesn't matter in Veilguard
I swear this ran through multiple people that hated each other.
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>>539249114
As if I'd ever let her lmao. No, I took the dip myself while she watched like a cuck
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>"didn't read"
>ended up reading every word
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>>539247973
no good crpg in a while. dunking on delusional retards who say veilg is good in the meantime
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>>539250413
She doesn't rumao. Amiri has 10, dumberie has 9
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>>539250435
Morrigan in Veilguard loves her mommy now. Her mommy is also a elf god btw.
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>>539249958
>Shartmiri is an iconic, they didn't have the permission to make her fuckable
Why do retarded rumours like this keep spreading? Paizo literally said we would have loved to have had an Amiri romance, we didn't put any such restrictions on Owlcat.
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>>539250326
>She's not a tomboy she doesn't have the right haircut
Pictured: not a tomboy
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I can literally grasp the contents of your post in one glance, I don't actually read your shit.

I don't think eating shit qualifies as "dunking" on anything that's not your dignity, owlslopper subhuman.
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>>539250493
It's very sad, isn't it?
>>
>Iconic Amiri
>people wanted to fuck her
>Iconic Seelah
>nobody wanted to fuck her
really makes you think
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This thread sucks. I'm off to bed
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Now that the dust has settled, was 2030 a good year for crpgs? I mean obviously BG4 was a huge disappointment but that was expected
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>>539250935
You know why
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>>539250736
>Paizo literally said
>Believing Paizo
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>>539251139
Pillars of Eternity 6 went crazy. Introducing the Spider-Man class could have really backfired, but it worked out well
>>
How come 40k doesn't have any trannies unlike based dnd n pathfinder?
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>>539251139
>People demand that Obsidian make it
>Sawyer dies right after
>Everything turns to shit
FUCKING RETARDS
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The funniest shit is that no one could challenge Veilguard's claim to 2024 RPGOTY. Go on, tell me which RPG was better so that I could laugh in your face.
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>>539250782
>AI slop
What's your point?
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>>539251139
I liked the inclusion of neuralink connection for user created modules, but the threat of feedback caused seizures made me pussy out and not try any.



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