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>”someone else will bring anti-tank weapons”

previous: >>539185649

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets and their patience, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit and their colleagues. With Joel's blessing, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player is based if they combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/

>MAJOR NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw

>LATEST PATCHES
Sep 02 1.004.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516345493302805199
Sep 04 1.004.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516346126609155527
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>sharty "content" OP
disgusting
OP you're a bona fide faggot
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what a dogshit OP
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FUCK YOU SWEDEN MAKE NEW STRATS AND BUFF SOME FUCKING GUNS
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>>539222267
gem OP
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lobby doko desu ka
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>sharted OP
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Low quality threads require low quality ritualposts.
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OP sharted all over this thread before anyone else could make a post
impressive
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I shoot randos right before extract...
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>>539222719
This is just your normal ritualpost though
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>>539222267
Don't care, my AC kills everything
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>>539222823
delete this or backpack sissy is about to have another melty about >muh 2 slots
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>>539222719
please anon, not another liberator variant
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17 hours until I can finally buy the machete
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>sharted
>sharted
>sharted
I have no idea what you guys are talking about I just thought the pic was funny and topical since shitbeards are always bringing Redeemers and Gas Grenades and Strafing Runs and Laser Cannons then when something huge shows up they can’t kill it and I have to. If you’re that scared of chaff just bring a thermite or bring a 500 and skimp on one of the gay little things you like so you’re not soft-locked out of killing half the enemies.
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TWO
SLOTS
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>shartyKINO OP
bvsed...
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>>539223107
heh
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>>539223063
Sure thing incel
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WE'VE GOT A LOBBY!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243979147082/76561198120804312
BOOGS (moon kino)
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>>539222823
the only reason I take the AMR over the AC is because I like the jetpack too much
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Does resistance level affect spawn rate?
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>>539223293
So it’s a bunch of trannies seething. You look at a bearded soijak and see yourself instead of the woman you pretend to be online. Eat shit you dograping troon.
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>>539223396
is this what people make now instead of halo x linkin park AMVs
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>>539223443
I wish I could care about a backpack that much but I just don't. Maybe once the climber backpack hits.
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>metaslave is a projecting troon
imagine my surprise
>>539223602
but anon there is no vertical base to scale
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>>539222823
ok then why are we being swarmed by 4 chargers and I’m leaping around thermiting them, Autoasshole? Why do I have to pop the squid shield and blast it with an ultimatum, where ARE you?? bring fucking something else next time ffs
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>>539223001
I don't think it's coming this rotation anon..
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>>539223735
yes well they'd have to figure out how to make genuine canyons, mountains, and skyscrapers first but still I'd really like it. shooting up and down would give the gunplay like a whole nother dimension n sheet. and once it works well enough, aerial vehicles could come into play. baby pelicans.
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>>539223501
So you ARE from sharty
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>>539223396
2/4
JOIN FAGGOTS
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>>539224325
no
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>>539224093
You’re from fucking sharty no idea what that means. Go shart yourself wtf? You must be a tranny unironically using “in cel” you gonna call me a chud next? Seriously go fuck a dog and don’t respond to me ever again freak. Why are you even on this site if wojak triggers you, seriously.
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>>539224486
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>>539224486
back in my day trolling was a art
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>>539223396
>20 fucking minutes
We could've finished a mission already. STILL 2/4! WHERE THE FUCK ARE (you)!
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>>539224486
Why do you get so angry at getting called out for being a wojack posting faggot?
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>>539224592
Neither did any of the playerbase
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>>539225274
I’m just in awe at the backlash. It was a funny pic of some bison and suddenly all this seethe. Jesus Christ.
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>>539225189
Working, it's a weekday.
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>>539225415
lurk moar until you realize wojaks are only used by undesirables
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>>539225415
Wojacks look gross which tells me only bad people like them.
It also has nothing to do with helldivers.
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>>539225414
I've been complaining about since the mechs were first released, though. Granted one schizo isn't going to get their attention. But now that the underground planet got people to use the mechs maybe others will start to realize that it's a giant oversight for above ground. Not being able to call down other stratagems from within the mech is just such a liability.
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I decided to get Borderline Justice instead of some other Warbonds I wanted, for the Deadeye, but I'm not really sold on it
Make me either regret my decision or justify it to make me feel better since it'll be awhile till I can get another one. Can be about the deadeye or the warbond as a whole
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>>539225937
It has the hoverpack who the fuck cares about anything else
take to the fucking skies faggot, it's the funnest piece of gear in any of the warbonds
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>>539225937
Dynamite is an addclear grenade
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>>539225415
next time you gotta use MS paint and draw your own version of it
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>>539225678
> Wojaks look gross which tells me only bad people like them
tfw
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>>539225937
It's a great warbond.
Deadeye is goated, so is the talon.
Dynamite is alright and can be used for playing hot potato or other shennenigans.
I find the hoverpack to be shit, but some anons seem to get niche use out of it.
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>>539225937
>I decided to get Borderline Justice instead of some other Warbonds I wanted, for the Deadeye, but I'm not really sold on it
It needs some kind of speed loader and it would much better. But even then, it's basically a worst scrotcher
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>recoilless rifle
>rocket turret
>eagle 110m rocket pods
>anti tank mines
any changes to this anti tank loadout?
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>>539225937
deadeye is one of if not the best marksman rifles
lots of ammo
very good vs squids
it's the slugger if it wasn't shit
yeee haaaw
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>it's a sharty thread
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Any guesses on who is getting updated next? Squids or Bots? My guess is that it’s gonna be squiggas as we’ll get the start of the whole Meridia shenanigans thing and that will end once either the DSS or the Black Hole is destroyed, then we’ll be “distracted” from the Illuminate once we’re at our lowest (presumably no DSS) with the reveal of the Automaton knock-off Death Star, which will be a middle arc of sorts between the destruction of Meridia and the Cultists appearing (if it doesn’t get pad out by more bug fuckery).
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>>539226305
Also the tube magazine could just be detachable as well.
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>>539224486
Wojaks are a bit dull most of the time but it's fine. Garlicjaks on the other hand were never board culture and have been rightfully banished from 4chan. Imagine being so fucking shit that when even /mlp/ got a board, you haven't. Fucking furshit is more tolerated than shartyjaks.
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>>539226365
remove rockpods and go with 500 for bile titan holes/bot constructs
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>>539225937
it's ok. has some stagger on it so you won't get buttfucked while you try to aim around phantom hitboxes
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>>539226365
take 500kg, airstrike, gatling, or even the damn orbital precision instead of rocket pods, those shits love to miss, do no dmg, and/or target the wrong enemy
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>>539226365
>anti-tank
>eagle 110mm rocket pods
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110m rocket pods works on my machine
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>>539226365
how about you take some useful stratagems you one trick andy so you don't get bogged down the picosecond anything else than a charger shows up within your fov
the game barely ever spawns enough heavies for you to need more than just the RR
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Why doesn't Super Earth use tanks?
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>>539226527
ANOTHER TEN BILLION UNITS FOR BUGFAGS
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>>539225937
Shit warbond, the best thing about it is the niche armor passive and the heavy armor's look.
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>>539226527
squiggers have had the cultists since forever, while bots have nothing, so I would assume squids are next up
>>539226681
shut the fuck up alexus
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>>539226545
>garlic sharty jacs
You completely lost me.
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>>539226770
They did in HD1. The devs probably can't program one that doesn't get stuck on the terrain. They should just make hover vehicles or something.
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>>539226527
>Any guesses on who is getting updated next?
>dispatch says to retake esker which is 2 planets away

it's bugs, the game is about bugs, 2 more weeks of bugs
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>>539226639
>anti tank
>it actually kills tanks
What's the problem?
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I wish the slugger was more like the N7 Crusader
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>>539226950
Don't worry, after you lurk more you'll get the hang of it. Try not to bake in meantime.
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>>539226860
>doesn't know that cultists were removed from the game's files like over a year ago
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>>539227029
the tanks are not tanks retard
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>>539226748
how about you call your mom and tell her you love her
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Repasted my soul machine 3 (PS3) and i'm going to buy helldivers 1.
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>>539226748
why the fuck would you need stratagems for anything that isn't heavy armour
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>>539227029
The problem is that it randomly does not kill tanks through no fault of your own
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>>539218598
3/4
Commander Rimanah needs (You)!
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>be me
>always run the same thing
>liberator penetrator
>senator
>recoilless rifle
>rocket sentry
>orbital strike
>eagle airstrike
>works against bugs, bots, or squids
the only time this HASN'T worked is against the new bug update, which is actually impossible even if I don't get weird stuttering
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>>539225937
hoverpack fun
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>>539227290
you should pirate it instead, narrowhead does not deserve your money, since most of hd1's content is dlc locked
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>>539227365
Full!
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>>539227290
Arrowhead patched hd1 to brick it and replace the main menu with an ad for Helldivers 2, you can't play it anymore
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>>539227290
As much as I love HD1, be warned that it has an extremely cancerous pay2win model. So get ready to buy like $30+ of DLC on top of that since there is no super credit farming. But also it has much better and more varied strategems and weapons. It's also on Steam now as well, though I'm not sure if its crossplay. I'd only really recommend it if you got some friends to couch coop with since that was what the game was designed for.
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Speaking of HD1, I missing being able to double up on the same strategem. For example I would bring in 4 napalm airstrikes and make a square of fire around the objective. There was just some fun things you could that you're now just more limited on.
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wtf the talon is better than most primaries this thing slaps and claps, rapes and gapes
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post yfw the APC drops, and it's so top-heavy that simply turning will make it flip, and no amount of explosives will be able to upright it
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if i join your lobbies can you promise not to make fun of me or judge me i'm emotionally sensitive
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>>539227979
no
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>>539227979
it's all bants homo
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>>539227859
4 eagle strafing runs would make me soooooo happy
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>microphone
That's a kicking
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>>539227979
I will cluster bomb your mom, gaymo
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>>539228226
Exactly, and they can't have you being happy. You might become content and stop focusing on the next new warbond.
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the mother of all hotfixes is needed
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>>539227979
post hole
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>>539228258
I keep it muted and not totally disabled just so I can kick people on mics
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>>539227942
mfw they will never release the APC and/or tank.
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>>539227979
I won't judge you or make fun of you, but in return you will have to ERP as a prostitute i pick up in my FRV.
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>>539223884
what do you mean... we are currently in the last rotation so it will switch back to first one
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>>539227441
For me it’s
>500
>Laser
>Napalm
>Supply Pack
>*whatever primary I’m currently leveling*
>Ultimatum (my real primary)
>Thermite
Every game. Every faction.
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Is there any yellow player background card things?
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>>539228837
they're called asians you racist
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>>539228505
come back.... please....
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Lvl 9 almost 10 new player
Starting to get into harder matches
What are good warbond things to get?
I like sentries and explosives
I use the orange armor that gives you extra grenades

Mainly use R63 Diligence with machine gun/ grenade launcher
I just like being the one taking out bug holes
I know using EATs is handy
Is there a way to get extra stratagem slots or is that it?
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>>539229315
The default sentries are your best sentries, no warbond has good sentries in it
Democratic Detonations is focused pretty squarely on all that and even let's you get extra grenades
It has explosive default weapons which can close bug holes even
No
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>>539229315
4 slots are all you get. If you enjoy explosives your best warbonds to get are Democratic Detonation, Servants of Freedom, Urban Legends. Roughly in that order.
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>>539229315
paypal me ten dollars and you get a fifth slot
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>>539229315
>Is there a way to get extra stratagem slots or is that it?
not bringing your own support weapon/backpack and stealing shit from your teammates instead.
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>>539229189
you'll get it, and it'll die from a single rocket devastator
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>>539229315
I know level 150's who use all the basic stuff. it's all about playstyle, there's no wrong way to play the game. there is no way to get an extra strategem slot.
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>>539228620
Has it really been that long that we're at the last rotation?
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>>539226365
replace 110 with eats
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>>539229581
Ah figured defaults were the way to go
There's so many bundles so I didn't look into all of them
Also sucks its 4 forever but that's just fun game design I guess

>>539229624
OK I'll look into those

>>539229634
Sent! Thank you!
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>>539229315
You just get 4 slots. And I never know what to tell people to get when they don’t have all warbonds unlocked already. You have to leap into a d10 to see what you really like and need before you make your choice.
Grab a medium pen AR from somewhere because that’s a good all-around kind of gun to deal with any of the factions
>diggers
>most bots
>stingrays
Those are the main things you have to worry about so get a medpen AR. And thermite. If you get the Penetrator from Helldivers Mobilize then prioritize whichever warbond gives you thermite. Thermite kills literally (virtually) anything.
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>120mm
>380mm
>eagle cluster
>airburst
>eruptor
>ultimatum
>pineapple
*siiip*
yep, it's accidental tk'ing time
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>>539227979
u suc lol
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>>539229189
I don't want a gay ass APC with the other 3 fags in it with me, I want a single man tank.
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>>539229693
I never bring a support weapon there’s always machine guns and AMRs littering POIs.
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>>539225937
The deadeye is a meme because the only breakpoint it hits is Overseer heads vs the DCS and regular Dilli which both mag reload and can be dumped in semi-auto. The only decent thing in the Warbond is the Talon which is a decent secondary to whip out, pop a few bot heads, and then put away without having to reload but it's more or less a Verdict sidegrade.
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>>539229694
t-thank you sweden
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any other Helldivers literally diving into the soil and swimming under the earth glitching the fuck out?
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>>539229961
>accidental
heh...
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>>539230483
>no bubble shield
deserved death
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>>539229861
I got Democratic Detonation like the anons above said and it has Thermite
Ill keep this strat in mind
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>>539230486
uh yeah every time an explosion goes off if I’m near a slight incline I get thrown under the model of the hill/rock
spinzone, another explosion will free you if you survive and you’re basically invincible under there
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>>539230436
Deadeye's overkill damage per round makes it surprisingly powerful in close quarter combat. It's been called the better Slugger often. Plus if you're in the business of VERY long range shots you can't bring enough damage.
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>>539227942
I feel bad for secondaries that don't have the preorder stuff, but not enough to ask arrowhead to release them for everyone. Heavy armor sucks anyway
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>>539230483
w-why didn't he schut?
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>>539230849
1 big bullet is less damage then 2 slightly less big bullets, anon, and in CQC, the year long reload is going to hurt even more. The Slugger is shit, but at least it leans into it's niche with the bigger mag and fast reload vs the Deadeye
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>>539228702
>light commando armor
>liberator carbine
>bushwhacker (set to volley) or machete
>recoilless
>Eagle napalm
>gatling barrage
>machine gun turret
>experimental infusion
>Vietnam-era music playlist
I will play no other way.
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>>539226527
Either squid cultists subfaction or bot homeworlds, squids are more complete
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>>539230967
God I wish Heavy Armour had a threshold like HD1 (or the enemy armour system) where chaff just couldn't fucking hurt you.
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>>539230483
What did Sweden do this time looks like you just got raped by a bunch of missles.
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>>539226527
next major patch is game awards 2k25, they're going to try and do the ayy thing again, this time releasing the rest of the units
until then, it's gloomdiving
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>>539230967
Are they really secondaries just because they didn't paypig for skins? Especially considering the absolute state of the game?
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>>539231189
That sounds kinda based……
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>>539231113
replace recoilless with the commando, poser
>>539231203
they made the armored exosuit out of tissue paper and glass. remember when shooting your own rockets while turning made them explode inside the tube, instantly killing you?
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>>539231368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmPElekhWrU
Just imagine wading through shitters and not giving a fuck.
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>>539231090
killing things in 2 bullets is always less fun
I just never took that much issue with reloading, rounds reload is easier maintenance than anything else
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>>539231516
>replace recoilless
Stopped reading there
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>>539231242
The preorder skins didn't cost extra, though. They were a reward for being a true arrowhead patrior. Also the game was more fun at launch than it is now, so not sure what you mean by 'state of the game'. It's their patch pace that broke the game due to trying to rush content and patches every 2 weeks
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If a stratagem requires a support backpack, it's useless. I'm not not taking a drone
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>>539231516
>remember when shooting your own rockets while turning made them explode inside the tube, instantly killing you?
Lmao yeah. And then to try and fix this they disabled the ability to shoot in any direction other than "forward" and unlinked the aim from the minigun reticule, so you had to aim to the right of a target to hit them or shoulder swap whilst firing the minigun, and couldn't rocket anything even slightly above/below you.
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Halo pistol isnt actually bad I guess. Even faster (I think) reload than verdict and lower recoil makes quick shots more effective, probably a better "in a pinch" gun.
I wish all handguns had faster switch speed, though. The character should just put the primary/support weapon in the left hand and fire the pistol one handed like in Max Payne 3.
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>>539231612
What exactly do you think you're killing in one shot vs multiple when compared to the DCS, anon? 300 damage is not enough to one shot Devs anywhere except their heads, while the DCS at 200 damage is still enough to one tap raiders and troopers to the body.
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>>539231823
The best part is that still didn't actually fix it completely. Your rockets would still just sometimes glitch anyways and explode for basically no reason.
The absolute best part is they nerfed the rocket damage in there and it's still dogshit to this day instead of being able to one-tap Biles and Chargers in the head. FUCK these Swedes.
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>>539231806
Drones are just diaper shield for people who can't aim
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>>539231874
>I wish all handguns had faster switch speed
they made the gunslinger armor for you
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>>539229315
Other anons have mostly answered, but welcome to the war, newdiver. Grab democratic detonation, it's all good and good explosive RP. Servants of Freedom has a portable Hellbomb and a secondary that's basically an Orbital Precision Strike. It also has armor that explodes when you die.

Just keep playing and experimenting and run what you want. Join SC farm lobbies when you want a new warbond, or just buy them I'm not your mom, but plenty of people farm on here and elsewhere.
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>>539231806
>won’t take a backpack of ammo for a heavy weapon
>will take his robotic comfort blankie
Lmao
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>>539231806
what a retarded take
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>>539232053
>>539232332
Yes, and?
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>>539232053
>isn't utilizing the sheer power of Plasma Punisher + Gun Dog on rupture strain
Adapt or die.
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>>539231806
Guard dogs are boring. I consider them training wheels for weapons I'm not yet comfortable with.
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>>539232759
So how do you kill roaches?
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>>539229719
According to wiki yes, this is the last rotation
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>>539232053
>t. charred corpse from walking within a zip code of me and my jolteon
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Is there any reason to take medium armor for the inherent benefit of the medium armor itself and not the passive? Like does it make it so you can take 3 hits instead of 2 or something? It seems I'm running light armor on any 40 minute map, and heavy for the smaller eradication/defense maps where you aren't moving anywhere.
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>>539232180
I like peak physique too much...
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>>539232778
Facts.
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>>539233001
any medium armour with an extra armour benefit is the threshold you actually want to hit for survivability increases. Literally, 101 armour rating, that's what you want. Anything above default medium.
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>>539225937
Deadeye is good or bad completely depending on map spawn RNG.
>map spawns give guard or spewers everywhere
great
>map spawns gorillion hunters and preds
shit
>map spawns a lot of overseers
good
>map spawns a lot of fleshmobs and zombies
shit
>map spawns a lot of rocket devs or hulks
good
>map spawns a lot of tanks and troopers
shit

Of course there's no way to tell what the map is going to spawn, certain biomes and mission types has higher spawn rate for some enemies but it's still RNG and we're not memorizing that shit. There's still the universal consensus that the round reload speed on it is dogshit
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>>539226545
>Garlicjaks on the other hand were never board culture
S*yjaks are older than the kids posting them. You will never be an oldfag. You are an election tourist twisted tranime into a a crude copy of 4chans perfection.
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>>539231780
Preordering cost extra
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I like how the news is telling us-
>hey go take Esker NOW or it will be CONSUMED by THE GLOOM
And the entire playerbase doesn't give a fuck because it's a pissfog planet.
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>>539233118
There should be a lv6 ship upgrade that gives you intel on the enemies on the map and maybe even what the secondary objectives are.
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>>539233305
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>>539233187
gyat
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any good youtube videos covering the history of HD2's galactic war so far?
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>>539233118
post full
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>>539232850
Quasar.
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>>539231780
>They were a reward for being a true arrowhead patrior.
should have given me an award for being an HD1 veteran
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>>539233470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx2Z5ZD_Rbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBt6igmiwUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL9zw_YVuT4
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>>539233470
It's probably better to just read the wiki article
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>>539233592
I can't read things while I work, but I can listen to them
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>>539223396
Lobby broke for me guess I got some kind of aids
GGs bros
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>>539232902
this makes me sad... my cat's still a skittish asshole despite all the space I give him and all my attempts to encourage play
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>>539226545
I tried googling garlicjak and the result was this thread lol
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>>539233334
>not a major order
>nobody cares and nobody reads the dispatches
Tell me friend how new art thou?
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>>539223396
>finish 2nd mission
>infinite black screen
SWEDEEEEEN!
>anons leave
>just the two of us now
2/4!!!! COME BACK ANONS!
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>>539233708
that's why I stopped giving my cat space and I just pick her up and let her cope that she's going to spend the next 5 minutes in my lap getting loved on no matter how much she wants to go do cool cat shit on her own.
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>>539233421
If it wasn't on sale, it by default cost extra
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>>539233892
tried that, cat either turns into a chainsaw or jumps away immediately, or both
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>>539234195
sometimes you gotta take a few claws to rub a fuzzy belly my man
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>retards wasting time on the mega nest on a blitz
>get bug breach dropped on me when I'm near extract
>2 minutes on a blitz
>randoms wasting time with the mega nest bug holes done
>i tell them to call the fucking extract
>green calls me the retard saying we're doing that when I did it already
>as soon as time runs out he and I die due to the bug breaches
Only guy I ever kicked holy shit
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>>539233805
NTA but I'm very new, what do you mean by this?
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>>539233056
Same. After adding the flash hider and a vertical grip to my libcarb I cal burst bug heads from way of and hip fire full auto with no issue if I need to
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>surrounded
>with a positive decay modifier
>with a quarter of the playerbase
>Victory in 2 fucking days
Yeah Narrowhead fucking tell me again how this fucktarded liberation system of yours isn't broken as fuck. These circumstances should warrant a half a day at most to clean this planet up. Especially because Joel is going to cock it up with a new MO tomorrow that has nothing at all to do with this. He could be merciful and give it a minor order, but that's not part of the railroad so fuck you.
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>>539231113
machete with the weapon toggle glitch is pretty darn fun. turns into a blender
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>>539233187
Overtly
Dumb
Skinny
Twink
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>>539234297
unfortunately there is basically no opportunity to do so as every ounce of the cat's being is dedicated to fucking off
I'd have to hold the cat up by the scruff of the neck and then go for the belly, but that wouldn't be good for anyone :(
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>>539234485
>weapon toggle glitch
wats dat
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>>539234334
The planet is not on the Major Order or Minor Order window, therefore nobody will give a fuck about it. Also, historically, absolutely nobody reads the dispatches sent out by Arrowhead/Joel. They give us info updates that would make winning MOs super easy and zero people pay attention to it because it would involve reading something for half a minute.
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>>539234327
>>i tell them to call the fucking extract
>>green calls me the retard saying we're doing that when I did it already
if you did it already then why are you telling him to do it?
>>539234334
he's saying you're new for not knowing that nobody gives a shit about the 'campaign' because it's literally rigged
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>>539234732
I told them to but they weren't so I rushed through the breach to try and start it so we had some stratagems
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243986626925/76561197960404530
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>>539234529
sucks man. Cats vary so much. I've had a couple that are lapsluts but my current one only likes to lay on me when I'm sleeping, but at least like I said she'll tolerate it for a few minutes.
Honestly there are very few better feelings than a cat purring happily in its sleep in your lap man. Can't wait to harass mine when I get back home now.
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>>539223396
3/4
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>>539234604
>options - change bindings - combat - open weapon wheel - change to "release"

for pc its when you hold R to get weapon options. so it bricks that function but if you spam R and attack you will machete as fast as you can click
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>>539234604
gay
>>539234681
zero people pay attention to it because it's rigged
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>>539234681
Also, nothing happens if you win or lose the MO, except for getting 50 medals (actually 0 medals).
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>>539233191
Holy mother of projection. No, your precious tofujaks aren't older than kids posting them unless the kids are literally 8 years old. They are the very definition of election tourist culture.
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>>539235008
Aren't major orders the story? For example if we failed the defenses the gloom would have spread. Or if we lose Hellmire our base is fucked to do further explorations into the gloom
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>>539233191
>t. 20-something whose entire personality is 4chan
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>>539234840
2/4

>>539235242
don't like this
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>>539235242
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>>539233736
It's just a silly way of saying soijak, don't give the triggered troon any more (You)s brother
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>40,000 retards on cirrus even though the planet will now auto-capture on its own
I’m playing squids tonight. I’m sick of bugs.
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>>539235115
I'm sure we could have stopped meridia.
And I'm so sad at all those times we lost MOs and because of it we lost.... uh...
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>>539235454
We want that sector gone anon
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>>539235454
giga-rare squidGOD
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>>539235295
>t. over 30 posting on 4chan
yikes lets unpack this...
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>>539235242
What is bootleg huntress from risk of rain doing in my copy of helldivers, apart from becoming a victim of imminent sex?
>>539235115
If you fail the gloom would have spread. If you won the gloom still would have spread, just to another planet than the one you defended. Nothing matters.
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>>539235115
in concept it works like that, in practice lmao no we have zero agency.
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When does the game get fun?
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BIG PATCH TOMORROW LADS LET'S GO WOOOOOOO YEEEEAH BABYYYYY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT
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>>539235537
Unpack all the dongs from your ass first
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>>539235295
Unc be yappin no cap
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>the MO's don't matter fags are back
>after it was confirmed that they planned for shit like even us losing super earth
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>>539234840
FVLL
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>>539235642
>homosexual fantasy projection
not a good look, no cap
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>>539235597
when the swedistanis start focusing on performance fixes, like the month-old giga memory leak, bots crashing people to desktop, infinite black loading screens, and straight up locking up people's PCs
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>>539235597
When you equip meme items and go help newdivers who srill have the sparkle of democracy in their eyes.
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>>539235719
You mean the short shitty slapped together video of using losing super earth that was only planted for dataminers to find as "proof" that MOs matter? lmao
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>>539235597
when you top score and start feeling superior to your pussy faggot teammates
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>>539235608
At best we get a warbond trailer this week or next week for a warbond coming out in october
I checked my magic 8 ball, it will be less good than dust devils due to "people" crying about the coyote
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Imagine unronically thinking
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>>539234404
I mean that's a fairly Lewisham playerbase %, isnt it? Similar percentages on other planets were like a week or week and a half until libteration
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>>539235719
>confirmed
Who's gonna tell him...
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>>539235956
but what if you had to think to imagine
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>>539235537
boomer website, youngn
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>>539235719
Anon the losing super earth video tidbit wasn't even voiced or finished
You are a massive swede cum guzzling nigger faggot dbz spic and should promptly nosedive out the nearest air lock on your super destroyer
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>HD1 had a lightsaber
>HD2 has a metal sword
booo
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>>539235719
Nothing in this stupid fucking game matters
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>the gas effect doesn't stop bugs from calling in a breach
nice CC faggots
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>>539235807
Only one more dinner...
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>>539236126
>Lightsaber in HD2
>still only med pen
>doesn't light things on fire
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>>539236034
dont you have a family to provide for and a retirement to plan unc, posting on 4channel at your age is kinda skibidi...
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>>539236163
Fucking good. I live for gassing the breaches. Nothing makes me as rock hard as dropping gas and napalm right on a bug hole and watching them all come up confused and disoriented as they melt and burn
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>>539235608
Mein Helldiver... the patch...
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>>539236163
let those bug fuckers climb into my braps and take the deepest of sniffs, I'll tank the breach for the rest of my group as they're all solofagging random POIs
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>>539235719
>literally had something like 12 MOs in a row where we were going to lose and then got a "uh, ahkshully, we found samples under the bed/extra corpses/the planet lost all it's resistance! MO targets lowered!"
>Still believe they are not rigged
The average IQ world wide is going down. And you are here to remind me.
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>>539236350
What fucking break???
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>>539236350
geez, AH, another break? You just had a two week vacation
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>>539235925
A warbond just came out Anon, it's still another month to go at best and they've said they're focusing on bugfixing and technical work, not content so it might be even further away.
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>>539235719
Oh boy, i'm sure sad we lost the MO for AT mines, TWICE.
So sad we can't have AT mines, oh wait, we did get them.
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>>539236163
if I were a bug and someone started gassing me i'd also call in a breach
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>>539236485
Yes, but what about the second break
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>>539236482
Dinner, of course!
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>>539236485
they need a break from the break they just had. please understand
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Average swedish work week
>Monday-Thursday: Break
>Friday: 9-11am, followed by second breakfast, then dinner
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>>539236430
You are in a sharty general and are complaining about average IQ, idk what to tell you
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>>539236294
4chan is a retirement home lil bro
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>>539236485
never underestimate how fragile and lazy euro's are
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>>539236485
>spend two weeks every two months in vacation
>plus weekends
>plus long weekends
>plus post-patch breaks
I know it's unhealthy to work too much, but these assholes don't work at all.
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>>539236886
Did these cucks know how much work a live service game is?
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joined a /hdg/ lobby yesterday and everyone but me was level 150, felt very stressed and under huge pressure
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>>539236557
The one (UNO) good thing I can say about not having any choice-MOs to unlock stratagems for such a long time is I don't have to watch people delay them for months on end for the meme.
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>>539236886
these faggots are speed gonzalez compared to fatshark man
these retards actually regularly add content, just never fix the content, which is a lot better than the absolute fucking dregs down the street from them
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What exactly does Dinnams Jordinner even do as a CEO? Authorize vacations? Why doesn't this stupid motherfucker crack the whip? They've lost 70k players in less than a month
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>/hdg/ getting mad at easily verifiable ragebait
the mitchimus faggot hasn't posted in a week
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>>539237104
But do you get new paid cosmetics every week?
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>>539236774
Uh-oh, trannie melty continues! ywnbaw
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>>539237104
The duality of the Swede. Literally no reason why you can have content and good performance aside from pure incompetence
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Can the Sterilizer handle chargers?
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>>539237208
Sweden's labor laws basically restrict the ceo from doing anything other than personally sucking off every single employee and getting down on all fours to be a human foot rest.
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>>539235496
>We could have stopped Meridia
It was leaked like a month before it happened, but the singularity would have happened no matter what.
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>>539237224
He's clearly on a break.
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>>539237224
>mitchimus faggot
The what now?
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>>539237469
>>539236350
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>>539235496
hey man there was that one time we lost detroit and its auto-manufacturing and they tried to nerf the FRV but couldn't
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>>539237386
Maybe if they allowed whip cracking their streets wouldn't be flooded with criminal migrant gangs from Morocco or Chechnya or Somalia
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>>539237487
Am I supposed to know and/or care who that is?
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>>539237385
not while they're charging at you
stun grenades would do the job better
the halt might be able to stop them?
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>speargun can close holes with a piece of rod and whatever firecracker-tier charge to spread poison
>huge explosion of fully charged epoch can't
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>>539237385
Sterilizer is a gas dispenser not a weapon if that's what you're asking.

If it dies from gas grenades yes sterilizer can kill it at about the same rate.
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>>539237959
The rod and firecracker have weight, you don't understand physics.
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>>539238078
How heavy is a nuclear detonation? Following AHs """realism""" nukes shouldn't be able to level a fucking fence.
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>>539237959
Spears have weight!
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>>539237959
>epoch can destroy fabs
>but not a fence
This game has no real consistency.
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>>539238202
They should rename the plasma weapons to "illuminate black fluid squirt guns" then they can do whatever the fuck they want with them, since it's a made up fictional load.
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>>539238294
This game doesn't even have FAKE consistency.
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>>539234840
3/4
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>>539222823
>kills everything
meanwhile Recoilless and EAT does this but better
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>>539237959
epoch will never be good broski
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>patch tomorrow
>we've used liberty to fix the speargun arrow floating bug
>we've administered democracy to fix a random bug where one of you NPC crew doesn't blink properly
>everything else added to known issues
>added 4 gigs to game file size
Best of luck democracy doers! We love trannies!
t. AH
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>>539234840
rfull again
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>>539225415
wojaks have been universally hated, even moreso when /qa/ got nuked
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>>539238564
Lel, what a self report.
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>>539238402
fabricators have HP on top of the hatches
you can only destroy them through the hatches if your weapons has enough demoforce
But if you can force your way through the HP with enough raw damage you can destroy them too.
Epoch destroys fabs by depleting their HP because it has no demoforce.
Which is even more retarded because it means the Epoch isn't destructive enough to destroy a fabricators vulnerable internal systems, but at the same time has enough destructive power to blow up it's heavily armored outsides.
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>>539236350
What fucking break??? They just had summer break! The game is fucking charred what the fuck are they doing????
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>>539234840
3/4 again (chicken bag caused this)
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>FRV about to flip
>if you turn INTO the flip while accelerating, the front tire will make contact with the floor and force counter-flip the car, straightening out the landing
I'm not sure if this is more correct than other games, but it's sure different.
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>>539234840
fulkl
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>>539238818
that's nice bakahead, now just try and escape this chainlink prison
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Will this game be more fun in a year?
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Are they actually having a break or was that bait
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>>539238954
kek
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>>539239264
a little over a year ago I stopped playing and wondered that
it's not really now. maybe another year is what it needs.
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>>539239318
>>539237224
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>>539238620
>fixed a bug where the coyote was dealing more damage than intended
>fixed a bug where diggers would sometimes miss
>fixed a bug where the dragonroach would tale too long to respawn
>foxed a bug where hellmire was not being attacked often enough
>fixed a bug where flashlights were too bright
>fixed a bug where helldivers were taking too little damage
>fixed a bug where chargers were not accurate enough
>fixed a bug where alpha commanders were not summoning enough warriors
>fixed a bug where weapons were doing too much durable damage
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>>539239264
we'll be lucky if it still fucking works a year from now.
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>>539239495
in a year's time the game will be 300GB and only 12 people will be able to play it without it crashing to desktop.
AH will still not bugfix.
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>>539239039
That's how it works with real car tricks too. Imagine it in slow motion. The front tire turns, putting more surface area under the point where the weight is being distributed to. Let's assume it's an AWD vehicle. Accelerating starts grip on the front and rear tires, pulling the front of the car towards the tipping point and pushing the rear of the car forwards. The inertia of the vehicle is still going straight, so while the tire side is being pulled outwards, the vehicle body now wants to be pulled downward due to the change in direction.

It's roughly the way a drift works too, where you turn opposite to the direction of the curve then suddenly whip the car into the turn, letting the car weight send the car into a drift instead of driving straight.
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>"oy vey we are just a smol indie studio please be patient ;__;"
>150 people
>owned by fucking Sony
uh ok
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>>539232053
laser dog is useful for rupture in caves because it shows you where you're being flanked from
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Epoch now apply plasma DoT damage ( stronger than heavy burn and last longer )
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>>539239983
If it's enough to finish off the tank enemies it can't kill with a single shot then I guess it'd be cool.
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>>539236350
When will discord and soidivers notice and chimp out? also check out steam forums
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>>539239983
I'd honestly rather it just not feel like garbage to use
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>>539239983
Turning it into a different weapon isn't the solution
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>>539239264
>>539239318
Flip a coin
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>Rupture warrior's being completely unavoidable if you are the host is the intended gameplay experience.
When they fix that shit you can expect all these people who have never hosted against the diggers will be pissed.
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>>539235719
The MO doesn't matter, the game will keep going. You're not going to gather enough people to flip expectations unless it somehow insults the chink bot swarm again
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>>539239983
Just make it into an upscaled purifier instead of whatever the fuck it is.
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>>539239828
150 is small these days.
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>>539239603
And those 12 people will be lying.
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>>539223842
Why waste an ultimatum on a harvester? Its toes are weak to pyrotech grenades.
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>>539239426
at this point it's not even shitposting. they literally are Shitpost:The Reality
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Is Planetary Resistance an actual like mechanic that's interactable with/influenced by stuff, or is it basically just a knob for the devs to tweak to slow down or speed up planet campaigns?
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>>539239983
>buffing a top tier support
Better spend this brainpower on buffing the AMR or MMG.
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>>539240174
but currently it's a bad QC and RR, so why not make it into something "unique"?
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>>539239318
bait
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>>539240396
It's not a big game despite the file size. 150 people is plenty.
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>>539235719
This post is clearly doing something right since it's triggering the appeal to triviality niggers that infest this game.
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>>539240601
Yes.
It's based on supply lines until Joel turns the knob.
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>>539225937
The talon is probably the best all around sidearm for just shooting things. The hoverpack is fun on bricks missions to just perch yourself on top of something stupid while you rain down hell. Well, as much fun as can be had in the snorefest that are bricks missions. I think that the hoverpack will still be useful there if they ever get around to increasing the enemy spawn rate by 30x in bricks missions.
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>>539240694
It's human instinct to correct someone who is wrong about something. That's why attention fags think "I'm retarded" is a troll.
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>>539240469
metafaggots are something else
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>>539240639
Anon, you missunderstand what it is.
Epoch isn't AT, it's a aoe based medium killer that happens to be quite good at killing heavies.
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>>539240601
So about that. I was going to post this anyway but its related. Seychel beach was at 0.22 earlier and now it's at 0.11 for some reason.

I really don't think any of the galactic war works unless Joel is hard at working turning knobs.
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>>539240601
It's only influenced when Joel intervenes. So, it's not anything we can control directly. It's a knob, used by a knob.
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>>539240639
It already is unique, it's a backpackless plasma rocket launcher with a railgun charge mechanic, it just sucks ass
Giving it some random gimmick isn't gonna make it any better in the same sense that giving the spear a dumbfire mode or flak or some shit would make that weapon any good
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>>539240625
>top tier
>have to use it perfectly for an incredibly mediocre C-tier outcome
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>>539229315
>What are good warbond things to get?
I'm going to reiterate to get democratic detonation. Xbow/Eruptor/grenade pistol/thermites are all staples that can be used in a variety of strong loadouts. People will almost universally tell you to get this warbond first. After that opinions will diverge wildly. I'd vote "control group" exclusively because of the warp pack.
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>>539240906
How is he wrong about it. Unless Arrowhead literally stated it doesn't matter then you do not have evidence that it doesn't matter. You are not the authority on what is right or wrong about MOs. You are just a nigger. Do not respond to me again.
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>>539240981
>is AT
>is quite good at killing heavies
idk anon sounds awfully like AT to me
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>>539230281
>I never bring a support weapon there’s always machine guns and AMRs littering POIs.
I tried this once vs squid megacities and it was a shitshow because no support weapons spawned and my team completely shat the bed until finally I looted an autocannon from someone that died.
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I LOATHE the unpaintable orange on dominator
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>>539241015
Well, they are paying joel for something and it ain't his GM skills.
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>>539240981
It's a heavy killer, there are much better medium killers and its AOE is dogshit. It may kill 2 spewers in one shot that are clumped and beat the railgun/AMR, but it's still worse than the GL at this
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>>539240625
>MMG
Why would they buff the already best machine gun? If anything it's Stalwart that needs buffs.
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>>539241501
both the MG-43 and Stalwart should get weapon customization and that's all they need
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>>539229773
>>539229581
The laser sentry is "ok". It's aggressively mid and needs some buffs before anyone sane would pick it as their first sentry, but it's "ok". I use it sometimes in situations where I'd like to have two MG sentries. Two MG sentries would be vastly preferable but you can't do that without cheating. The gatling sentry is another option for bringing a "second but worse MG sentry", but people like to go hug the sentries and the gatling sentry tends to instantly cut teammates in half while the MG and laser sentries just tend to waste a stim.
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>>539241392
But gl sucks vs hulks, tanks, dogs or warstriders.
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>>539239983
Epoch just needs 4 shots instead of 3, and a much larger max AOE at full charge
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>>539240601
The only mechanical part of it is that a planet that is surrounded will be reduced to 0% resistance. Otherwise its completly arbitrary.
And if resistance isn't enough to railroad, then Joel isn't above just deleting all our liberation progress.
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What are the Automatons up to?
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>>539240625
All these bullet based support weapons need is better durable damage (and better opticals)
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>>539241348
>swedish DEI
they are obsessed with replacing the white
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>>539241501
Stalwart is way better though, atleast on bots and bugs.
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>>539241639
So it's a heavy killer that happens to be OK at killing mediums then?
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>>539237959
>>539238078
Alexus unironically argues that the epoch shouldn't be able to destroy chain link fences because it lacks mass. Meanwhile orbital laser shatters detector towers.
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>>539241698
soundbug crashing your game into the dirt. Bots have adapted to find new ways to win
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>>539241831
Or a medium killer that is good at killing heavies.
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>see people on Reddit saying "Haha where are the bot divers saying bugs are the easiest front now!"
>log in after like 8 months
>bugs even on diff 10 are INFINITELY easier than either other faction
Why do bugfags still cope about this? The new walkers the bots have in particular are total aids.
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>>539241825
is this bait?
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D 10 whatever steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243994759204/76561198088743007
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>>539242002
the problem is it's actually a medium killer that's only middlingly good at killing mediums and even less middlingly good at killing heavies thoughbeit
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>>539241874
He is absolutely right.
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>bugs are not that fun (gameplay is just run away n spam stuff sorry)
>bots crashing games and not difficult enough (why do so many troopers still spawn in reinforcement waves in d10 bloating up the maximum unit count lmao?)
>illuminate not difficult enough (boring dps checks, no interesting enemies yet)
Sadly I'm gonna have to take another break, hopefully liberty day will inject this game with more good content
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>>539240968
Honestly, why waste a pyrotech on a harvester? It takes ~2 talon magazines or so to pop a harevster shield. 2 shots each to its horns to disable the shield generator and arc thrower. Then 10 shots to a toe to destroy the thing. Just get in close where it can't adequately target you with the heat ray and it can't do shit.
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>>539242146
how do explosions break fences
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Steeled Veterans, Polar Patriots, Freedom’s Flame or Servants of Freedom?
Why?
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>>539242098
They're talking about the diggers, not standard bugs
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>>539242178
you'll get a cape and child's wooden constitution that shoots rubber bands
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>>539241831
That's not what the general agreed on.
>I disagree
Cope. (You) had your chance, should have voted differently.
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>>539242128
3/4
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German dub > English dub
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>>539241501
stalwart has a niche already, they need to give back the higher RPM to the HMG so I can rip and tear titan asses with it
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>>539242352
What does this tier list have to do with how we classify weapons
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>>539242296
Viper Commandos
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>come back after a year+ hiatus
>solo some bots for fun
>get instagibbed by a fire shotgun shieldnigger from 100 meters away
Good to see arrowhead are still completely retarded.
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>>539242107
No, stalwart shreds everything at high rpm, low recoil, and doesn't need stationary reloads.
And there are extremely few armour 3 enemies in the game.
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>>539242689
>not one of the mentioned warbonds from the question
Now let's try to get an answer from someone who's not a complete retard
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>>539242767
as much as I fucking hate arrowhead and they've done a lot of retarded shit, shotgun devs are based
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>>539242818
This brings fear into Stalwartsissy heart.
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>>539242296
Polar Patriots has the Purifier doesn't it? That and the Tenderizer are fun.
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>>539242352
>epoch not even on the list
Retard.
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>>539242818
it's aids against bots bro.... it limits you to killing troopers and popping heads (IF they are facing you ) which is what any primary already does
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lore reason why explosions don't affect underground rupture strains?
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>>539242689
I’ve got that one bro
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>>539242931
stalwart shreds that thing if you literally move your cursor you nimrod
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>>539242296
servants of freedom
funny nuke backpack
that is all
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>play bots for the first time in a while
>get short freezes whenever bullets start flying
Is anyone else dealing with this?
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>>539242994
learn to shoot their waist or legs dude, you don't have to remove their heads all the time
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>>539242994
You know devestators only have armour on the chest.
Tummy and legs are all lethal and all light pen.
MMG struggles way more vs heavy dev spam.
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>>539242352
>11 votes, all me btw
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>>539242818
Stalwart is a waste of a support slot with all the primaries that can emulate it, MMG's AP3 is useful against AV2 as well
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>>539237959
They really should stop spouting stupid ass nonsense and just say it with their chest that they don't want a AP support weapon with no backpack that can also close holes.
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>>539243025
they do?
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>>539242297
Still cant compare at all.
Hunter strain is kind of annoying but I would rather queue 100 hunter planets than having to deal with strategem jammed outposts full of walkers
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>>539243181
yes. allegedly it is the sound bug. Probably won't even be acknowledged by swedes in the next patch. Get used to bugdiving
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>>539243153
>Stalwart shreds that thing if you literally move your curso-ACK!
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>>539243181
Yeah, its a common issue ever since the bug cave update
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>>539243181
yes the game has been in a broken state for over a month. bots crash your game. game has a persistent memory leak that makes you start stuttering after around 1hr 30min. audio bugs. numerous other performance bugs.
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Speargun is kind of fucking amazing ngl.
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>>539243252
>>539243270

even if you're spraying legs through walls of fire coming back at you congrats you still gimp your support slot to only killing mediums and below....
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>>539242128
full
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>>539243584
>Shittier railgun
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>>539242931
>can't even effectively run any MG on diggers because they're a loadout check for explosives.
Try again.
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>>539243643
>crossbow + MMG doesn't exist
okay
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>>539243637
railgun can't interrupt a charging fleshmob or charger
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>>539243412
>>539243445
>>539243540
damn, alright
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>>539243584
slower than using railgun with the added bonus that it can close holes/fabs and gets less ammo from supply packs. The gas rarely even affects enemies that it doesn't directly hit due to the swedefucked status affects
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>>539243609
But it's better than the MMG.
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>>539243643
bro your frags? your loyalist? your GP? your eruptor?
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>>539243609
then equip some other grenade or secondary to compensate that your support weapon is only light pen. you have stuff like ultimatum and thermites. hell, you even have other red/green strategems that can kill heavies.
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>>539238620
>patch tomorrow
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>>539243737
the speargun cant kill 6 enemies without needing another supp pack
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>>539243734
Swapping weapons between an explosive primary and an MG is not using either to any efficiency. MG excels when you can just lay down lead and things die; it's sustained fire. The explosives are there to either make them surface or exclusively deal with those threats. If you're using the crossbow, you might as well just kill them as they're coming out instead of swapping around.
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>>539243643
It sure is weird that AH keeps forcing everybody into an explosive and AT meta
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>>539243858
ok sweety
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>>539243357
I could see a stalwart for illuminate when you have an erupter as your primary, but otherwise yeah.

>>539242818
So I'm a grugbrain, but when I was looking it up I saw that https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Bile_Spewer says guys are 2 light armor but 3 medium on extreme. Does that mean at extreme difficulties bugs have higher AV? Not that a higher AV type spawns, but that literally their AV increases?
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>>539244025
The Rupture bugs are also coming up for your teammates too, and they often start unburrowed from breaches.
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>>539243153
>>539242352
I don't know if these people are idiots or trolls
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>>539244162
Yes, Bile Spewer is (I think?) the only enemy in the game to actually change values on difficulty. Technically the Scout/Reinforced Scouts too but they are mostly different enemies.
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>>539241874
Then why does it have 100 grams of MASS??? Why does it have a gravity modifier of 200% for it's WEIGHT?
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>>539243953
>compensate
there we go
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>>539244004
Neither can the railgun because I can't aim
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HMG is easily the worst since they added war striders. In theory it's good on bugs but you can't get reloads off without getting raped
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>>539243913
>frags
Legit argument except when they catch you up close, long fuse time makes them less reliable and more prone to self damage.
>loyalist
Weapon swapping to kill a warrior is dumb. Bile Spewers maybe. Even then it's still clunkier than just running explosives to deal with them.
>GP
Not running Ultimatum if you have a MG support is just silly. Supply pack gives you a lot of charger removal.
>eruptor
Just kill whatever comes out instead of swapping...
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>>539243380
>what is EAT
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None of the support weapons in the game are good.
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>>539244282
I'll spoonfeed it to you then since you simply can't understand. The digger has gaps between the armor, just like the hive guard but with even more space, where you can move your mouse to hit another spot that will kill it. You must be one of those pubs that panic shoot everything center mass and hopes it works
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RR is the only good support weapon
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>>539244308
Bro, are you only using RR to kill chaff and never using grenades or primaries?
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>>539244572
Recoilless Rifle has been solving every problem in the game since it launched
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What's the point of light pen on bots when medium pen can also score easy kills via headshots?
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>>539244290
I said Alexus argues that. I didn't say that he's correct.

If you haven't caught on yet, Alexus just does whatever the fuck he wants. He often thinks that things should be deliberately shit, and hates when he thinks something might be too popular. When he can't justify his shit take, he just defaults to claiming that the decision was made because of "realism."
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>>539244453
HMG can break the the joints fairly well desu. wear recoil reducing armor, preferably fortified.
also it's probably the worst of the MGs for bugs
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>>539244701
What is the point of hamburgers without cheese? It would make it a different thing.
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>>539244453
Bugs have almost no enemy you actually want to use the HMG against, what the fuck are you talkin about
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>>539244635
No I'm picking things that aren't one trick ponies so that I'm well-rounded to handle anything I need to
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>>539244645
>solving every problem in the game since it launched
you must be a post-60 day patch player
it was dogshit that needed 2 shots to kill a hulk, or 1 to the face. everyone on the bot front picked stun nades + autocannon to 2-shot the hulk's face
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>>539244701
Shitters who can't handle recoil. Light pen is a crutch.
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>>539244453
>make heavy penetration weapon
>make every heavy armor thing have high durable
>make heavy armor penetration weapon have low durable damage
I don't understand the logic
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>>539244610
To be fair, you're not supposed to use supports without explosive damage on diggers, so it makes little difference if you use the stalwart or the AMR against them because they are untouchable either way.
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>>539244701
med pen cause bots to flinch, meaning you'll likely miss the head more and end up spraying around the head til the torso dies. Light pen doesn't cause flinch because it bounces off armor , making the heads easier to spray/burst. Med pen is stil more universally handy, light pen is more rewarding to someone who wants to aimlarp
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>>539244502
>>539243380
Sometimes I unironically run commando on predator strain missions solely because I want a disposable way to close a bunch of holes while leaving my primary free to be a staggering shotgun, my backpack free for whatever I feel like using that day, and my sidearm for the talon so that I can shoot things beyond shotgun range.
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>>539244885
So you bring AC, WASP or Epoch?
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>>539244701
Light pens usually come with less recoil, more ammo, and better ergo. Makes headshots more consistent. I just like them more I guess. Somehow the Adjudicator always feels like I'm spraying and praying but the Liberator feels like I can burst and nail the headshot every time. Or just bring a Diligence.
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>>539244882
The HMG can spray through every heavy bug's armor....wtf are YOU talking about
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>>539244901
actually I quit playing after the 60 days patch didn't actually fix shit
if you were dropping stun grenades on them (like everyone was) you could use anything to kill them, including RR, since you had all the time in the world to line up the oneshot. It was definitely weaker against launch bots sure, but it still answered every problem. Launch autocannon shit itself on Bile Titans even harder than it does now.
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>>539244762
And I said he's insane because the game itself says he's wrong. Like, he's literally arguing against the game. For him to be right, plasma would have to have 0g mass, 0% drag and 0% gravity modifier.
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>>539245110
>shoot heavy dev with my MG
>it flinches
>still shoots back with 100% accuracy while flinching
I'm 100% sure the suppressive fire only works against chaff bots, and flinching devs is an active downside because it makes hitting weakpoints much harder
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>>539245205
you simply lack the brain cells, do not reply to me anymore
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>>539245291
>shooting charger legs with the reloadable EAT
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>>539245279
>let me deal 35 damage at 750 rpm against charger behemoths and bile titants!
WTF are you doing???
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>>539244289
Warriors and Hunters get increased health starting at Challenging difficulty.
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>>539245279
how new
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>>539245020
>not supposed to
says who?
>they are untouchable either way
I literally just explained it.... you can kill diggers with anything >>539244610

the retards in here today man I swear
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>>539245305
Alexus sucks at his job and doesn't understand the systems he's in charge of. He has said on record that the players know the game better than he does. It's insane he still has a job but he must have the fucking Epstein file on Shams and Pilestedt.
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Non bug divers are pathetic.
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>>539245438
I accept your concession.
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>>539245459
60% of the reason I took a year long break from this game were the devs being so fucking retarded to not lean into the "shoot charger leg" meta the community embraced
I'm still fucking pissed more guns can't take them down that way. Just make the legs MEDIUM ARMOUR YOU SWIGGERS
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>>539242296
Servants has the only things that actually change how you play from this list in the Ultimatum being a AP5 secondary and the funny nuke backpack for jammers. Patriots has decent guns in it that are sidegrades to things you've already got in the Tendy and Purifier, but they don't allow you to do anything you couldn't with other guns.
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>bugchasers making fun of squiddivers
thats a new low, holy shit. even for them.
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>>539245608
They are untouchable by any non explosive damage while they are burrowing, ergo, penetration doesn't even matter.
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>>539245641
>doing the MO
lol
lmao, even
get to work wagie, i want those medals in my desk by today
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>>539245641
imagine saying this after daddy joel had to gift bugniggers a victory in an MO lmao
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He's so paper skinned and a pussy to reply directly lmao
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>>539245820
youre actually retarded
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>>539245641
Seashell is one of the designated SC farming planets right now
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>>539245305
He's not trying to make an argument in good faith. Here's what I'm pretty sure happened:
>early on, a decision was made that first the Scorcher and later the plasma punisher/loyalist/purifier shouldn't have demo force since it would be kind of crazy if those primary/secondary weapons with deep magazines could destroy spawners.
>alexus gets it into his head that this means that ALL PLASMA WEAPONS FOREVER should have fuckall demo force
>he does not consider for an instant that there are tons of examples of different types of weapons gaining demo force once scaled up to stratagem weapons
>he does not consider for an instant how dumb that it is that a big fuckoff plasma cannon that cracks open tanks is stopped cold by a conex shipping container
>he just knows that once upon a time they decided that the smaller scale plasma weapons wouldn't have demo force, so he applies that same "logic" to the epoch cannon.
>When questioned about why it does not have demo force, he has no argument to defend the position. So he just starts bullshitting and says that it's due to in-universe realism reasons. Now fuckoff you stupid plebians. He's supposed to be word of god. How dare you question his excellence?
They need to spray him down with the water hose again and banish him to the surmstrumung basement for another 6 months.
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>>539244289
Alright so it's just them, thanks. I was going to be shocked if it was all bugs, but we play exclusively on impossible to super helldive so I can't really recall otherwise. It does explain why spewers are so tanky in my experience unless you go for a doggystyle shot on their ass.

>>539244813
Yeah, it felt like with bugs that anything really heavy you weren't going to penetrate with the HMG (I expect there's some tiny ass joint that might be worthwhile, but it might be vulnerable to an MMG in that case). I love it for bots, I liked it for Illuminate.

>>539245693
That was a real peak swigger arrogance innit? Very clever, very reasonable strategy - it makes sense and it's fun rather than just rodeo-clown to the rear. Then get slapped and told "No you play the way we tell you to". I just thermal them and play the rodeo clown, unless it's on hive planets when I bring fire impacts so I guess I'll just run around until someone else takes care of one. Or keep zapping it in the ass for a century
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>>539245693
I enjoyed stuff like leg meta and belly rubbing dogs.
Buffing AT was a mistake.
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>>539244610
From the front you can see the head legs and arms. Nothing that you can shoot with ap2 unless you go prone. The entire body is light armor but a lot of the time you cant see any of it.
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>>539245641
The entire playerbase is pathetic. The collective doesn't give a shit about the war, MOs, or what planet is best to focus on. I help new players a lot because they're fun and still have some dumb LARP in em (vets are just burnt out and tired) and while I love them... They're fucking STUPID. Like, the average diver in this game is actually retarded. They're abl bunch of dad and bro gamers that could not give a half a shit about anything other than shooting things until they die and teamkilling for the quick laugh. They will NEVER give a shit about liberating a planet or any other galactic war shit. They barely give a fuck about mission objectives.
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>>539245895
>no proof
concession accepted, big oof you need to learn not to seethe so easily 'tard.
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b___ lives matter
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>>539245820
What MO?
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>>539222267
Been playing more bugs and the difficulty that I play at is around d6 and most of the time it's fine, but as of late it feels completely random. It's either a walk in the park or there's so many enemies on screen that you just get instantly overrun. Still winning but it's certainly not fun.
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>>539246069
We have not forgotten your failure, bugnigger
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>>539245641
LETS GOOOOO WE'LL GET IT IN A MONTH
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>>539246065
>*massive fart sound*
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>bugchaser mad that I didnt give him a (You)
>again
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>>539246065
did you know nothing you do actually matters
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>>539242852
Why are you upset, fagman?
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>>539244878
a hamburger with cheese is a cheeseburger
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>>539246065
The person I play with considers an operations aimed if we don't extract, even if we beat the objectives, to the point where they'll abandon an operation halfway through to start a different one if we die
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>>539246065
didnt read keep seething DOE
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>>539246526
actually it would be a royale du fromage
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>>539245992
the crazy part is I've never talked to anyone who didn't like it, because it was actually FUN to do have to do a combo like armour strip > meat removal. If bugs actually had design like that they'd be 100x more interesting.

But nope, railgun nerfed because of a bug half the players and all the devs weren't even fucking aware of at the time. You will ONLY kill the charger in the designated fashion and only AFTER you suffer for weeks with no answer to them so we will buff the AT to one shot them.

It's kind of funny that the charger leg meta still technically exists but the only place I know of that it's actually the best strategy is the Patriot exo, and that's purely because they assfucked its missile damage from a one-shot for no fucking reason. But hey it feels cool to rocket a leg and minigun the remains. Shame the Emancipator outshines it though and these fucks won't let me take both mechs.
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>>539246642
Didn’t know you spoke arabic, anon
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This liberation system is beyond retarded
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>>539246642
speak a lil chinese for em derek
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>>539246902
AHHH PUTAIN
*PTOO PTOO*
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>>539246995
Does Allah know you browse 4chan
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>botschizo is back and is still retarded
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>>539245812
I kill them all the time while they're burrowing with GL, GP, crossbow, eruptor, mechs, etc.....burrowing spewers too. Are you sure you're play the same game? Maybe verify your files and delete your shader cache
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>>539246714
Leg meta is still sort of useful against impalers when you encounter an autistic one that refuses to deploy the tentacles.
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>bugchaser fighting botdiver bogeyman in his head again
>again
>again
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>>539246714
I didn't use RG that much on release, i just used EATs to strip legs.
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>>539246960
>a planet with more people on it makes more progress than a planet with less people on it
What's wrong with that?
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>>539247148
the muzzies love to fuck little boys and marry little girls so I'm sure he condones it
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Adjust your glasses 4 eyes, lmao
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>>539247315
>"Sar you need 0.42 liberation impact to do dis. You only have 0.409, sar."
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>>539247302
I seem to recall EATs being a rarity til the one shot was solidified, so many people were using the RG though it's my memory.
For me? It was the arc thrower of rapid firing.
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>>539246960
Damn botcels are pathetic
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>shoot - pushed away
>shoot - pushed away
>shoot - pushed away
this feels so bad man they always ruin my day fuck the slugger & every shotgun what a sick joke.
Not the M90A though that one is cool.
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>>539247525
What?
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>>539247180
>They are untouchable by any non explosive damage
>I kill them all the time while they're burrowing with GL, GP, crossbow, eruptor, mechs, etc
Bait or illiterate?
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>>539247287
they'll never stop hallucinating justifications for their argument that no one even cares about
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>>539247559
man, it used to be great. it used to blow off crate doors too.
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>>539247180
>they are untouchable by non-explosives
>"i kill them all the time with explosives!"
Take my (you)
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>>539247559
shoot it's head or legs off numbnuts
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>he’s samefagging now
Oh wow lmoa
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>>539247539
I locked in EATs and AC in the first week and have been eating good ever since.
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>>539247556
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>>539247629
he same person didn't say both of things. you are the illiterate one. moron. and yes you can kill them while they burrow with explosives. they literally die underground and you can hear their scream
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>>539247559
>can’t into clipping the legs
heh
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>>539247559
try the HALT
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>>539247916
I spent a while after they murdered the arc thrower running nothing but the AC. Having gotten back into it though I don't like it as much, mostly because I like the backpack options too much.
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>>539248069
>Shooting the leg off makes it move faster
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>>539248038
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This is a lobby.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243999226296/76561198024623656
You should join!
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>>539248206
mmm nyo
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>>539247869
>"surely there cant be people out there that dont like my schizo episode where I blame all my lifes problems on botdivers!"
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>>539247629
>>539247853
>probably samefag but whatev
You kids are actually brainless... here is what was said in case you can't keep up.
>you can kill them with any nonexplosive while they are ABOVE ground
>you can kill them with explosives while they are UNDERGROUND
I think you idiots just imagine words to think that you are some kind of 7d chess winner or something. You can't be this retarded and know how to use a computer
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>>539248015
I dont understand
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>>539247559
I have a hypothesis that shotguns are falling prey to the "round down to zero" bleedout bug through a combo of excess drag, low projectile mass and low durable damage.
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>>539248302
>>539245812
>They are untouchable by any non explosive damage while they are burrowing, ergo, penetration doesn't even matter.
>>539247180
>I kill them all the time while they're burrowing with GL, GP, crossbow, eruptor, mechs, etc.....burrowing spewers too. Are you sure you're play the same game?
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>>539248314
>>539248015
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>>539248423
Why are you replying like this? I don't understand hoe what I said was incorrect or anything like that
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>>539248491
other anon is a schizoid, don't worry about it
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>>539248491
>>539248015
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>>539247559
>shoot the head off
>still hits you
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>>539248302
>They are untouchable by any non explosive damage while they are BURROWING
>I kill them all the time while they're burrowing with GL, GP, crossbow, eruptor, mechs, etc
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>>539248345
After some soul searching I've concluded that the AMR is the shotgun I want to use on the bugs. Try it you can play duck hunt with the rupture spewers by blowing their heads off.
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>>539248206
2/4
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>>539248345
why in the fuck do shotguns have low durable damage anyways
their entire purpose is to shred meat
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>>539237385
Harpoon gun will stop it in its tracks. Bonus of the gas makes it turn around you can shoot it through the ass into the thorax for a 1-shot kill. It also fliches titans to keep them from spitting.
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>>539248624
The marksmen/sniper rifles being the best shotguns is insane and I hate it.
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>>539231889
>What exactly do you think you're killing in one shot vs multiple when compared to the DCS,
overseer heads and voteless chests blowing right through their bleedout HP
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>Hes using months old bait
This time people will take it, right?
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>>539248728
Durable damage is a stat that Arrowhead uses to make our guns suck in practical use for their peashooter fetishes while using the leaked Big Damage numbers on the stat cards to sell warbonds.
No, I will not give you my sources.
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>>539248398
>not the same person
wow you are that dumb.... I've had to spell out multiple things for you now. I'm done. You will eventually forget to eat and starve yourself to death
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>>539248946
No source needed for something so true.
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Tomorrow's patch will be one of the most defining patches in the games history...
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>>539248206
Three outta four just need one more.
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>>539249012
hey cool but you should try reading sometime



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