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>News
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>4th Card Set: Skybound Dragons
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>Gacha Leaders: Belial and Beelzebub
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Last Showdown: >>545881985
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JO Kings, ESL GANG, and /svg/ (the one who's danchou starts with E) anons, you should have seen a message in your respective chats about the mergers ongoing. please take your pick from one of the following guilds. if a guild has 0 slots, it may still have week-long inactives the danchous are willing to kick, so ask in the thread.
680062178983 - EudiePlapper
851607664396 - Elluviaverse
122066259564 - Shadowbabs
817253747768 - /SVG/
550011421438 - Paizuri
203149711350 - EssVeeGee
368820995170 - 4LeafClovers
427026012287 - NoFunAllowed
576606695461 - CuteAndFunny
932072921863 - Magic Sands
455272193501 - Maid4U
382492074799 - Shadobabs
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>*sits in the bottom half of the deck*
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Hold on a second... is that...
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>>545952989
wrong image
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>>545953045
right behind you!

>>545953030
*wins with 1x belial anyways*
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>>545953045
I'd totally lez ERP with this cutie
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I don't know that much about GBF, why do Cag and Beelzebub have lines for each other? I get why the angels all do with each other
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>>545953857
Cag beat Beelzebub's ass once and Beelzebub never got over it
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>>545953857
>cag is a proper angel
>beezlebub is a evil angel obsessed with sex and cumming
I dont know granblue lore but its easy to see why cag hates beezlebub
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>>545953994
I think you're getting some names confused
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>>545954134
no no he's right cag is a perfect angel
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"Oh so aggro killing Turn 5 is okay?"
Yes. Pay for your sins and die for your transgressions.
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>>545954198
cute ruria
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>>545954198
Holy topaz board.
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Cag isn't an angel, she's my personal onahole
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sorry if this has been asked a lot but what deck consistently beats loot sword?
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>>545954689
we know you fuck your spare bodies, stop posting cag
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>>545954691
Just play against me using loot. Cinsero will almost never show up.
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>>545954747
kek
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>she
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cog is a tranny
>muh alchemy
activist game, activist company
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cag is tranny goals
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I am so tired of evo abyss
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cag makes trannies seethe because he is what they will never be
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>>545955031
time for the nuclear option sis
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>>545955142
What's the nuclear option?
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>>545953857
Cag sealed Bubs away with magic.
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>>545954592
I'm not topaz, I'm brown.
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>>545954691
None. Puppets and Abyss have good matchups. Its the strongest overall deck with only puppets coming second.
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okay but why did he decide to replace and change his body into a loli
just explain that, please
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>>545955595
so he can fuck his little sister's body every single day obviously, next question
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>>545955269
it starts with a whirr
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>>545955595
he wanted to fuck his sister but hes too much of a coward that he made a fake body that looked like her
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>>545955725
I don't want to go back...
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>>545955595
He is obsessed with his sister and since she refused to become immortal with him he did the next best thing and became her so the world can see how cute his sister is for eternity.
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>>545955479
i see, thanks. no wonder i've been so many puppet players on ladder.
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>>545955913
He's wrong though, puppets are unfavored against loot.
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>>545955595
he's a perv and wanted to slam his cock inside of his sisters pussy every night, but now he gets bred by danchou (me) instead
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>>545955985
Yes bwo, thats why its the second most played deck, because it has a bad matchup against the strongest deck in the format. Its not like puppets turn 1-5 eat sword board alive and then the Zwei check just wins the game.
>>545955913
Its easy to play too and its basically a set 1 deck, the Zwei buff was too much and all of their bad matchups are unplayable right now. Still nothing beats loot high roll.
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AAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>545952571
Is this a shadwverse character?? i have never seen it
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>>545956462
You've never seen Arisa? The face of shadowba 1?
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come back bro...
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I can finally play Abyss.
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>>545956841
you didnt have any nezhas bro?
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What the fuck were they thinking when designing this card?
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>>545956893
dare?
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>>545956893
I was missing the 3rd Almeida.
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>>545956927
same thing they think with every forest card
>I HATE YOUR CRAFT I HATE YOU SUFFER AND DIE UNINSTALL MY GAME
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Oguri Cap my beloved...
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https://x.com/6535hiop/status/1987510814115529187
dragonbros... our class is still THE meme class
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>>545956927
when roach rotates out forest will get 20 card combos easy and this will fit in
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>abyss gets a powercreep version of dragon but way better
>abyss still doesn't use it

Defend this
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>>545956927
When is this even practical to use? I just don't see why they'd print this.
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>>545956927
it should do two dmg desu
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>>545956927
infinite value!
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>>545957415
It can fix roach and rose queen lethals so it's sometimes worth considering. If it was 2 damage to leader I'd actually seriously consider it a lot more but at 1 it's really iffy.
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>>545957347
why would you use a generic card that doesn't advance goals of any of the archetypes they're pushing for abyss?
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remove sword from the game
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>ロビー大会優勝だ~~
>まじで配信アーカイブほぼサッカ
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>>545957347
>doesnt push any of abysscraft's archetype (mode/evo)
>costs 6 for its stats, compared to that swordcraft 5/4 that costs 3 which dos nothing
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>>545957415
it's combo filler that replenishes itself. a roach player can play it each of their last 3-4 turns for that additional damage reach overall.
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I want the discard package NOW
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please stop putting me against sword, I don't want to play against sword anymore
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guys why do you play orchis in eggs i dont get it

do u ever go over 1-2 eggs or what
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fuck rune fuck dirt fuck abyss
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>>545959568
because youll never draw your eggs
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>>545959949
>fuck the only honest deck that does not storm slop or otk your ass!!
>fuck the only deck that plays honest board based shadowverse
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>>545960041
Is there a non meme answer though? Orchis does need board space.
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>>545960041
ok but then shouldnt you just play puppets
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>>545956376
It's the second most played because it beats the other decks that aren't loot. If it beat loot too it'd be the most played.
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>>545960210
>the only deck that plays honest board
not true retard
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>>545960210
>>fuck the only honest deck that does not storm slop or otk your ass!!
Rose Queen is once again forgotten, fuck my chud Forest life...
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>>545960797
Oh wait I can't read he said otk nvm I can't read...
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>>545956927
roach sometimes has to split their lethal across two turns because if they don't cast stuff the first turn they die before their ohko on the second turn. this card exists for that scenario, which presumably becomes more common as enemy decks become stronger.
you can argue that's dumb, it's too weak to help with that, whatever, but that's the idea
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>Next set Sword will get a ton of free evos and cost reducing cards
>they will have full boards of SEVO'd units by turn 7
Hold fast Sword brothers... our time will come
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My Shadowba gf dresses like this!
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>>545961117
sword is the only craft that has never fallen below tier 1 wtf do you mean your time
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>>545961117
Our time has been here since launch. No wonder Steve cucks you.
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>>545960637
play sword
>gets stormed face
play puppets
>orchis and oguri cap face
play eggs
>they dont even play board lmao, pop eggs over and overfor face damage
play dragon
>forte and wilnas, cannot interact with them, every card that costs 5+ has storm
play jerry dragon
>they just otk you after the ho-chan
evo abyss
>otk with belial
izudia forest
>get unkilled
roach forest
>it starts with a whir
dirtboost
>we do not talk about this

Only crest haven, ward haven and mode abyss make you play honest board based shadowverse without storm slop or degenerate otk strategies
The absolute state of this game
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>>545961361
Wilnas the buff Fairy
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>>545961519
I miss when people made art for cards turned into fairies, that was funny
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>stop queueing for a second and brought back to the park
>see this behind me
huh?
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>>545961617
That reminds me perhaps some Artists have moved on from Shadowba
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>>545961785
You get a pack ticket for picking one, you don't actually have to send the tweet.
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>>545961617
sham ntring titania only to get turned into a fairy as a show of affection...
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Topaz group harder than Ruby?
Discussion

I’m currently on AA rank. Was hardstuck on Topaz group, sometimes I’ll have a bad day and drop to emerald. But now I finally made it to Ruby group and it’s way easier to complete ranked quest now lol. My opponent won’t counter my board with the perfect BS answer every single turn. My boards finally stick!

So is Ruby group really easier than Topaz?
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>>545961451
>the opponent has to kill you to win
Wow no way. I bet you came from Hearthstone faggot.
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>>545961976
go back
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>>545961976
Yeah it actually gets easier in higher groups because you can predict what your opponents will do. I hit GM without ever falling out of diamond because everyone is playing the exact same meta deck the exact same way. If I was in Topaz I'd be blindsided by unpredictable moves all the time and there's no way I could be so consistent.
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>Sandalphon hits my face 5 times and lets my follower survive
Outskilled
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>tried to get Fediel off packs
>get anything but her
Fuck what can I craft if I only have 2 Belial?
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>>545961451
crest doesn't play for board, it plays for empty board
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>>545961785
Ez win for nijibros
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I find it incredibly funny now that crest isn't gatekeeping it, we're now in an aggro because Loot is a retarded deck and the puppet megabuffs ended up biting back super hard.
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Nothing feels worse than losing a mirror match in this game
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>>545961785
>1 pack for sharing tweet
>10 packs if you correctly guess the winner
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>>545964538
>10 packs if you correctly guess the winner
only 10 people get those 10 packs
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>>545964538
you're entered into a raffle for 10 packs if you correctly guess the winner. so even though there's an obvious favorite you might be better off gambling
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where's your liam bro?
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Aside from Sandalphon how the fuck does evo forest win?
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>>545964732
Now this is the honest board based shadowverse i enjoy
A nice wall of wards
No storm trasspassing
The oguri cap RETARD squirming in pain

Im smiling
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>>545964915
Congregant of Unkilling is your only other bet to win besides Sandal
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>>545964968
dollfucker is honest
fighter is honest
zwei is honest
questslop is not honest
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>>545964732
I love seeing puppetkeks suffer. Good job Anon.
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>>545965083
zwei is definitely not honest. didn't portal drop fighter? that's the moment it stopped being honest.
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>>545964732
look at these homos having gay sex in your hand
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>>545964732
Last I checked the vast majority of puppet decks aren't running liam anymore.
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Reminder: Honest just means "deck I like", and dishonest means "deck I don't like"
Do not engage with anons that have an IQ of 10
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>>545965379
I miss when gaming terminology actually had real meaning. The Xbox 360 was a mistake.
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>>545965379
Someone like you would never understand.....
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>>545965379
I wish my favorite deck was honest.
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>>545965379
Honest means forest since it's the only one running decks full of borderline unplayable garbage instead of just slapping down overpowered shit every turn.
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>>545965664
Last forest I faced evo'd 3 gilnelises during the match.
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>>545965379
Brown hands made this dishonest post
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>>545965664
pop off bro
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Honest/dishonest when used unironically is Hearthstone r*dditor pissbaby bullshit.
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>>545964732
i've been OTK'd through 5 wards at 20 health by puppet
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>>545966198
Damn how many Bubs layers?
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CHAAAAAAT, who do i bet for the 10 packs
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to me spellboost and skybound arts are dishonest because there's a world of difference between a card in hand from turn one and turn eight. i like when a card is a card, fuck having to decide if my opponent had the card since turn one or topdecked it
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>>545966386
just 1 but four normal puppets and two 4 attack puppets (which, when you can sacrifice lloyd, will amount to exact lethal)
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>>545966386
>>545966631
actually correction
only need three normal puppets since lloyd kills a ward too
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>>545966631
How did they amass so many puppets without needing to use any, did you just pass every turn?
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>>545966997
>sword and portal
>oguri cap storm decks
>"honest"
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Bros I found the ONLY Artifact player. Do I just concede out of respect?
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>>545966997
I thought everyone was fun posting but I'm starting to suspect that /svg/ legitimately doesn't know what "honest" and "dishonest" are actually supposed to mean
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>>545966879
they only needed to save 3 normal puppets, you can generate the 4 attack ones on the fly with the cat
not as hard as it might seem like and very achievable by turn 10
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>>545966531
>>545966531
>saw this
>log in
>get free pack for opening web page and "sharing"
>open

thank you based god
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Can someone come to the knockout table for the weekly?
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>>545967125
You know exactly what you are getting when playing against portal and sword they aren't healing for 30 or pulling instant wins out of their ass
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Storm dragon is honest
No healing. One dead turn to ramp giving you a chance to hit them. No full hands because of a shit ton of draw.
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>>545967146
I played against artifact and they played 5pp deal 10 to board pls nerf
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>>545967497
sure
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>>545967236
Sir you're replying to a r*dditor.
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>>545967498
You're insane if you think portal isn't healing with sylvia and evo'ing gilnelise every chance they get
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>>545967497
Sure, I need to finish this match first but I'll be there soon.
>>545967539
It's so over...
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>>545967404
It's usually a combination of the opponent actually doing things and hand space limitations.
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She is playing forest again
https://www.twitch.tv/ponpon_kotsukotsu
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>>545967640
Bro you could have came... I was just going to watch since you replied first
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>>545967670
These guys sure aren't. And that's the deck I'm currently trying out. So I'm not either.
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>>545934559
Play good stuff haven.
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Think about how people can upplay even the worst decks. Now think about how forest is so bad nobody can upplay them and everyone has accepted how bad they are. There is just a massive gap between being bad and being forest bad.
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>>545967865
I'm very happy for all of you but down here in the streets you portalheads heal more than Rune
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>>545956927
They tried supporting rosequeen; but forgot what her actual effect was
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>>545967498
Healing might be cancer but it's fundamentally honest.
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>>545967987
Did you stop to think about it before you pressed the post button? How can it heal more than rune? Rune runs gilnelise too. Is silvia alone somehow championing norman and the earth spell in your head?
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>>545968105
Honest healing is Forest spending 10pp to heal for 3. Not rune healing for 8 and leaving an 8/8 on the board.
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>>545968070
I also only remember the only thing matter with her
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>>545967536
I play Storm Dragon and even I don't believe thus.
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>>545968152
I will be 100% honest with you I can't remember the last rune that used gilnelise against me and none of them use norman or sagelight to heal anymore
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>>545965379
Anon was right. /svg/ legitimately doesn't know what honest means anymore holy fucking shit.
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>>545968632
factually and correct
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>>545968510
>>545967236
...
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>>545968152
Find someone who trusts you as much as that guy trusts sylvia
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honest decks are decks with wincons that you can interact with (egg portal, roach)
dishonest decks are decks that have uncounterable wincons (hochan dragon, dclimb) or cheat the systems of the game (ramp, spellboost)
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>>545968963
>honest decks are decks with wincons that you can interact with
>Roach
Cmon man.
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crest spent the entire game clearing my midsword board. the entire fucking game.
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>>545969018
play one aether and you instantly win the game
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So why do so many puppet decks drop liam?
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>>545968963
how do you interact with the portal shitty egg amulets outside of slowly using your odins one at a time
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>>545968963
>i like combo so its honest but i dont like ramp and spellboost so its dishonest
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>>545969113
that is interaction
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>>545969061
And Zoi can stop bubs.
Roach's entire gameplan happens in-hand where you can't touch it. You just do stuff and force them to burn gas and hope they don't have enough for the OTK.
Roach is as honest as Ho-chan OTK.
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>>545969069
need evo to do damage
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>>545969018
You can interact with roach all the way until their roach turn by forcing them into situations where they are forced to burn their combo cards to survive. Roach was good when the meta was decks that didn't bother to try interact and just played passively which lets roach hoard all their shit.
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>>545969059
>Cleared your board, that'll be -5 hp + tax & tip :)
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>>545969138
Ah yes because combo truly cheats the systems of the game to do powerful effects like... deal 1 damage to the enemy leader
>>545969205
hochan otk takes 4 cards over 2 turns
roach takes an entire full hand played all at once by forcing them to burn combo pieces, or set up a massive ward wall that they will not be able to break through
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6pp 4/4 do everything and win the match!
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The first thing we really need to establish is that if your idea of "honest" has ANYTHING to do with power level at all and how good a deck is you need to throw it out immediately.
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>>545969347
obviously it doesnt because I called egg (a good deck) honest and ramp (a bad deck) dishonest
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>>545969276
>because combo truly cheats the systems of the game to do powerful effects like... deal 1 damage to the enemy leader
you are more dishonest than spellboost and ramp combined
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>healing = dishonest
>storming = honest
who made this post
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>>545969437
there is no combo card that comes anywhere NEAR the cancer of 0pp refill your hand spellboost everything 5 times refill your mana
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The most dishonest card in the game is 3pp 1/1 Fanfare: summon a fairy, put a fairy in your hand, evolve: repeat fanfare
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evo decks are the most honest because every craft can evo
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>>545969592
fuck that dishonest piece of shit card
you know what? fuck this dishonest card too
4 bodies + 3 storm damage for 6 pp? this entire craft is just dishonest
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>>545969347
Isn't honesty vs dishonesty just how gimmicky/rulebreaking shit is?
I.e Ramp and Spellboost are dishonest because they cheat cost. Crest was dishonest because it played the game on a completely different Axis from regular decks, etc.
Storm is potentially dishonest but that's a whole can of worms on how much of a rulebreak it is when the game keyworded it in the first set.
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>>545969830
storm is fine in moderation, you need a way to put pressure on an opponent and close a game. but when you can hit a critical mass of storm cards to the point that you can just play them back to back to back to back (like we have now) and ignore the gamestate then it becomes dishonest
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>>545969830
and who decides the rules
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>>545969830
Crest was the most dishonest deck because It did not need to put a single card in their deck that focused on damage. Every other class has to balance out their deck with offense and defense. But with Crest their offense was free so they could just shove 40 defensive cards in their deck and still win by turn 8.
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>>545969919
The game...?
Every class abides by the turn=mana rule bar two
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>>545969830
>>545970018
crest also wasn't even THAT slow, it could start pressuring rune for a kill on turn 9-11 for instance
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>>545957117
is dragon unironically the most downplayed class in the any card game?
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what does decks does egg do better against than puppets
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>>545970178
Ward
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>>545970178
loot
mode
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You can't control what deck your opponent shows up with so it's pointless giving yourself an aneurysm stressing over whether it's honest or not. Just play the deck that's fun for you and enjoy it.
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>>545969908
I personally agree with this sentiment as well but want to bring up how it's still contentious.

>>545969919
That's the other can of worms. A lot of shit is self evident on how it breaks the rules because they fuck with the default way cards work/are played but a lot of other stuff is ambiguous.
Are eggs dishonest because they're hard to interact with? Or are they honest because they win with a very ordinary play pattern of wearing you down until burst damage is played?
It's a huge slog to try and make this objective outside of the blatant "Isn't that cheating" style mechanics.
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>>545970086
Roach dying to crest on turn 8 was something that would happen constantly since roach has no cards with actual big bodies that could absorb the damage and no healing to recover.
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>>545970178
>>545970226
>>545970256
Is there a favorable matchup table?
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abyss is dishonest because it can use necromancy while other crafts cant
wtf is up with that
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>>545970383
yeah crest is in theory supposed to be a deck roach does well against, a do-nothing deck that slowly kills over time, but in practice roach had no way to soak up/recover from crest's damage and back to back wilberts were exceedingly difficult for roach to overcome
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>>545970297
But analysis is fun and talking about the way things should be is an all-time human pastime.
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>>545970226
Puppet is really good against wards though.
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>>545970387
Not an honest one
(and I'm not saying that just because of the current discourse, every matchup chart I've seen has crazy biases based on what I assume the creator plays)
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>>545970297
this discussion is a lot better than the usual garbage in this thread
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>>545970606
havensissy typed this
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>>545970453
You joke but playing shit from the yard is one of the oldest forms of dishonesty that since became so widespread people don't think about it as such.
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>>545970510
>>545970606
If you guys are enjoying the discussion, then ok. I just said it in case some of you were getting upset.
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>>545970689
nuh uh I main forest
>>545970694
I don't consider current reanimate dishonest because I felt what true reanimate dishonesty was in sv1 with shit like DST
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>>545970582
They really aren't.
Assuming equal numbers of Orchid/Aether on either side puppet just loses.
It was different when they still ran Liam
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>when you might enjoy something but the treasure box event ruins everything
It's unironically insane how tilting this event can be
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>>545970869
how does the treasure box event ruin anything
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>Not running Odin because it doesn't fit into my honest deck
>ward haven cretins start crawling from their holes and showing up on my ladder
You freaks are getting a little uppitty, don't make me turn this car around
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>>545969830
You have the right general idea but that isn't quite accurate. Anything that's in the game and isn't bugged technically isn't breaking any rules.

Honesty is originally an FGC term that was borrowed into other games. A character IS more honest because it's less gimmicky, but the important part is understanding what a gimmick is. And that's basically sub-games. Characters who are dishonest in fighting games are characters who have things like true 50/50s where they have set ups you have to gamble to defend against, or some unique mechanic that forces you to interact with them on a meta-level away from actual gameplay like having very lop-sided match ups some characters can't play against.

The same rule really applies to card games. Decks that are honest are just decks that you can interact with normally without being forced to make weird meta checks and can't force you into guessing games against their hand. Storm is ALWAYS a dishonest mechanic because it isn't interactive and comes from hand. Having some storm doesn't mean a deck is totally dishonest, but you can't actually do anything about storm in most cases even though it's a core game mechanic. Healing conversely is an honest mechanic even though it's cancer because it's an interactive mechanic that creates an open game state. Any definition that acts like power level is related is just wildly wrong.

So like, when you ignore power level it's a lot easier to understand. Dirt Rune, Midsword and Artifact are mostly honest decks regardless of power level because they're largely forced to communicate all information about the game state openly and can't blow you out from hand. The average deck doesn't need specialized answers to deal with them.

In the same crafts, Spellboost, Loot Sword and Eggs are dishonest because you can't meaningfully interact with their game plans. Their game plans are mostly solitaire and a lot of their power comes straight from hand without telegraphing.
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>>545970746
This is the most fun I've had here in weeks.
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>>545971090
I would say eggs is honest purely because of the fact that the counter to them is not some weird tech card but a card that is powerful in its own right and that almost every deck wants to run if it can
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>>545970853
Maybe that's an issue with whoever is running puppets in your matches. Not sure if you're speaking from a ward player perspective or from a puppet player perspective. But if you look up some puppet streams from decent people you can see how much of a hard time they're having against ward.
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Which team should I pick? Who are the most sweaty?
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>>545971174
What is this meme? Banishing an egg doesn't counter the deck. They always have more to generate. And if you're banishing an egg you're not dealing with whatever they have on the board.
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>>545971357
egg is not a deck that has massive threats on board though, you usually can afford to oguri the eggs
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>>545971321
CR or Niji probably the best shot, I'd go with Niji except Spicies always chokes so I'm hesitant
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i always keep track of spellboost so its honest to me
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>>545971321
Check who won the last one and base your predictions on that.
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Beel is just cygames mandate to force game ending before turn 11, Tanaka always win
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>>545971437
Doesn't need to be massive. Eating a 4 or 5 extra non egg related damage is already a pretty bad deal. They'll just insta regenerate the egg you banished anyway.

Hardly what I'd call a "counter" unless maybe the egg player is bricked
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>>545971174
Odin isn't a weird tech card only because he happens to be good right now. The fact that Odin answers them is the exception that proves the rule because it tells us that in a different meta game, or if you're playing any deck that doesn't have exactly Odin, you wouldn't be able to interact with them at all. Referring to Odin is effectively a power level argument dressed up.

For reference though, let's compare eggs to dirt rune. Lilanthem is a comparable card in that they're both types of wincons that're resilient to removal. The difference though is that even if Marwyn and Himeka were completely removed from the meta, Lilanthem wouldn't remain uninteractable. There isn't a card check with her, the strategy for the vast majority of decks to deal with Lilanthem isn't even "play Orchis" or "play Medusa", it's "kill the player" or "ward up".

Honest decks can simply be answered by playing the game through generic means. Sometimes the deck itself is absolutely broken, but it doesn't require special construction. Dishonest decks force other decks to either accommodate them or just not interact. The best way to beat eggs is to just play your own game and disrespect eggs.
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spent too much time trying to make midabyss/midsword work...
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>>545971321
bro just throw a dice
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>>545971321
man why do i have to share this shit on my twitter!!!
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>>545970453
Necromancy is the third most powerful resource behind Spellboost and Vengenance. In fact Vengenace was impossible to balance so SVWB punted it to the curve.

Spellboost is the best because it can technically have infinite scaling. All it takes is some bullshit card like Giant Chimera and boom you taking 40 interactive damage on turn 10.
Necromancy is costly but the effects are powerful and Shadow/Abyss is the best class on generating shadows.
Overflow is something you get naturally so it can't be overbearingly powerful. At best you get one extra guy or an autoevolve.
Combo has the most expensive cost: cards. Outside of Roach, a lot of combo cards require too much for an effect that Rune or Abyss gets for "free". I think Forest should have an expanded hand size though an effect but I don't know I'm not a card designer
Sword doesn't have a class mechanic so what you see on the card is what you get. It's just a big pile of good stuffs and without a resource like spellboost or necromancy it can't have a wincondition or you end up with something retarded like Sinciro.
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>>545971321
Niji or CR team
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>>545970775
Yeah current reanimate stuff is basically just "if you built your deck correctly revive a token you want" pretty healthy all things considered. It'll only be a problem once you can really cheat out fucked stuff at a reduced cost.
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sorry for the dishonest storm card but this is funny
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>>545972006
I wonder if forest will live in tournaments solely by preying on abyss
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>>545972006
Even without Cerberus Abyss can never escape the fairies.
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>>545971090
I agree with this, Thanks for elaborating on what I thought.
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>>545972006
nee nee
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transformation is dishonest
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>>545972089
are you acting like roach is unplayable? because it isnt
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>combo
>able to get pp back
>cards can cost 0
>play cheap shit to clear the board and hit your face for big damage and then return the roach to hand+draw a bunch of shit to do it all over again
so fucking honest
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>>545971779
>Shadow/Abyss is the best class on generating shadows.
puppetbros.........
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>super evolve: gain 1pp
>anon loses his fucking mind
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>when roach plays 0pp cards
>when spellboost plays 0pp cards
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>>545972369
That's how roach would work. If roach was able to hold 20 cards.
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>>545972479
>5pp 5/5 draw 2 and aoe the board for 15+
I want to see this.
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Meta is fun and healthy because forest is extinct
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>>545972475
They can't play their decks rn so all they can do is whine on this thread about how their HONEST uninteractable otk isn't good enough anymore.
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>>545972475
>roach's 0pp card: heal 1
>spellboost's 0pp card: 3/3 rush spellboost 1, 0pp 8/6, 0pp draw 5 restore 10pp spellboost 5 times
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>>545972425
Don't you know? Puppets don't have souls.
Imagine if Portal was around during Path to Purgatory meta
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>>545971321
Nijisanji has by far the best chances but it doesn't really matter, in SV1 everyone who predicted the winner used to get extra packs but here it's a raffle.
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>>545972763
I don't even know any of these people except Ririka and that's only through YT shorts.
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>>545972701
you don't play PtP artifact in unlimited?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pra5OpjxUCM
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Buff Galmieux's 3 damage ping to not be once per turn. Buff the new 1pp forest spell to deal 2 leader damage and Aria sevo effect to regular evo.
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>can't even post the tweet by default
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>>545973220
delete a few spaces at the end and its fine. I also deleted the tweet after i got the pack
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>>545972763
yeah, that's what I'm going hopefully I get the 10 draws
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>>545973220
why post the tweet? you still get the 1 draw even if you don't post it lol
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>>545973396
lol
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new sox fex on pixiv
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tempo elf feels more like rolling the dice on what you draw like dragon
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>>545973968
put danchous in the deck
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>>545967908
>good stuff haven
haven is not abyss or sword, it doesn't have "good stuff"
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Next expansion forest will get the honest furry
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Puppets is the best aggro deck because it plays full bodies while generating board clear. this leads to situations where if you don't clear that turn one puppet cat and turn 2 Lovesick puppetier, you're gonna be at 14-16 health by turn 4. Don't have a full answer to Zwei? You eating another 5 damage on turn 6. Without any healing, there's absolutely nothing you can do to deal with Odin->Orchis back to back. You must answer lovesick on turn 2, Senpai on turn 3, or you will lose unless you have degenerate healing aka Norman.
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Take the evo dragon pill
High win rate against puppet and loot
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>>545973220
>>545973396
I didn't even have to open the web page
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>>545974040
am i supposed to know what the fuck that is
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>>545974642
gran and djeeta
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>>545974642
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>>545974227
>t8
both bricked
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>>545972763
Niji only needs to win once so they're the clear favorite but that also means most people vote for them so in the case you pick another team and they win you have less competition in the raffle.
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>>545974227
I don't even know what I'm looking at but she's sexy
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>>545974457
lol
lmao
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>Odin being in every deck for every class is a good thing!
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oh shit i found a forest player
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>>545976313
Oh shit that's a nice 1 drop.
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>>545976313
>turn 8
>roach and nothing else
grim
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oh shit i didn't think the sochie emblem was actually real
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average dragon mirror
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WHO DO I PICK, IS THERE ANY SEER HERE WHO CAN SEE THE FUTURE?
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>>545976707
Neo Porte probably has the highest odds of actually netting you a reward since the higher seed is going to get a fucking huge raffle.
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beyond dragno decks

thoughts
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>>545977416
meg is waiting for apologies from /svg/
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>>545976834
Frick.. I picked crazy raccoon because they sounded cool…
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>>545976702
What do you use to record?
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>play Loot
>lose
>lose
>lose

>play Storm Dragon
>win
>win
>win

Can't heal to full every turn and deal with Wilias, unless according to /svg/ you play Reaping Brick!
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It's honestly not that bad. Probably going to get more and more cancerous if dragon gets more ramps.
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>>545977715
obs then I convert to webm using ffmpeg
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had a match against dirt rune where i just sevo'd albert twice to win
another win for the good guys
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another win for the good guy
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>>545978497
>the feet censoring
pretty funny
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Huh. I thought the english dub for dragon girl's "sugoi desu ne" was fine because I thought the line was a taunt but it's actually the commendation line so it's actually a super fucked translation afterall.
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>>545971646
mid abyss let you down?
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Is Raio a brick in dirt?
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guess what deck i play
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All of my gold chests has been 150 vials. What the fuck is wrong with this kusoge?
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>>545979092
I'm 100% sure they stealth nerfed chests
Used to give at least 1 legendary a day
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i sure got outskilled
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>>545979021
loot sword
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>>545979120
no it did not
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>>545979330
It did for me
The big chests would usually give thesmall rupee reward
and the little green chests would pop legendaries
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>>545979453
explode
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>>545979330
I used to get enough gold for at least 1 pack or outright a pack, but now in the best case scenario I get 300 gold.
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I have no idea what I've gotten out of chests. I don't pay attention to them. It's just a bonus for doing what I always do.
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God I want to breed eudie with every fiber of my being
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Holy... I kneel.
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ban vaseraga from take two
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You stepped into the wrong neighborhood.
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I think you niggers are lying about Dragon being bad.
Dragon is really fucking good right now.
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>>545980728
My board when the Dragon spends turn 3-6 Ramping while I hit face uncontested
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so why'd they decide to make evo forest a fucking joke compared to the other evo decks?
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>>545980409
he picked the wrong card
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>>545981070
It's more consistent than Evo Abyss and has much better payoff than Evo Sword. Evo Forest actually received a pretty solid kit, the problem is that forest as a whole craft is pretty fucking garbage so you just get out valued by everything else.
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>>545981226
bro what
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my 4pp do nothing is better
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Come.
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>>545961785
How do we vote?
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>>545981648
you have to come to the 21488 lobby
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>>545981226
3 face damage is a better payoff than sevoing your board? even sevoing a quickblader is the same effect
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>>545981682
On my way
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>>545981682
Do go there unless you want to get raped
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>>545981265
No seriously. You HAVE to get Belial in your hand by the time you need to start dropping evo enablers on board and Sandalphon has the awkward situation where you might burn your effects to get him into hand then struggle to get his count down later. Evo Sword doesn't have a real pay off at all. They can't really sequence into Sandalphon except with the generic Granjeeta set up everyone has access to and basically any game state that Siete wins, you could've won more easily with something else. The best version of those decks are carried by out of theme cards from the class already being good.

Yuel is an absolutely insane card, Ewiyar has the misfortune of being taxed but he lets you play his evo points while maintaining tempo, and Cupitan into Sandalphon is a very clean sequence that's easy to set up.

The reason the deck is shit is that it ends after that because you have a couple solid new cards and then the rest of the deck is forest trash. Forest is just super far away from having the critical mass of good cards to be able to play for value.
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Based Aggro Sword shitting on the crestfags
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puppet have a hard time clearing wide board, intimidate, and stealth
it's not gonna stay t1 for long
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>>545978823
way too many games on midabyss where either I brick or I just could not answer the opponents high roll
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>>545982061
suton bureiku
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>>545982194
puppet dont run that garbage, thats why it the better deck
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another win for the good guys
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the good guys meme isnt funny when you do it with the best deck in the format
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>>545982431
i dont run sinciro to handicap myself
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I found the banner
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>>545982587
I hope they'll do the same for RAGE tourneys
They're not the same without votes
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The 3 mana 5/4 was supposed to ruin the game though
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>>545982587
I can't even post it
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>>545982817
Lmao that was just us sword players upplaying our craft.
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>3 mana 5/4
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>>545982587
thats not our lobby
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>>545980728
very danjyarasu
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>rune is in any trouble whatsoever
WAHHHHHHHHH NORMAN SAVE ME
HEAL CARD SAVE ME
WAHHHHHHHHHHHH
GILNELISE SAVE ME WAHHHH
SAGELIGHT HEAL ME I NEED A HEAL WAHHH
PENELOPE HEAL MEEEEE
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>>545982913
I just logged in
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>>545983213
great! so you can join our lobby then
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I'm brown
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seriously pay attention to rune in your next matches
every single turn past 5
they play the heal card

every single turn past 5
they play a card that heals
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I am brown
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Is it just me or is dirt an awful matchup for eggs
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First time Puppet
Should I mull for Zwei and Orchis every game?
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>>545983826
It's fine if they don't have the vtuber on time or you get perfect draws. Otherwise yeah it's a tough matchup
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>>545983925
You don't have to keep Orchis in the mulligan anymore iirc
Looking for lovestruck, lancer, Eudie, Zwei
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post forbidden clips from 21488
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>first forest since the start of the set
>almost lost too
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>>545984005
Thanks, I just won my first match against Sword!
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>>545984148
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>>545984263
Have fun!
Puppets are EXTREMELY good right now.
Top 3 deck of the format.
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I felt bad playing against a loot sword because I healed over 20 HP as dirt and stabilized a Lilanthem but then they somehow managed to out grind me and race me down for 40 life against their 20 and I'm fucking baffled.
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>>545984238
>2 norman in hands
>4 hp
Bro saving it's healing for SV3
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>>545984412
my /svg/ swordbros told me loot fold to any form of healing
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>Been egging the ladder all set
>Decide to try something different
>Craft Cum Abyss
>Jump on ladder
>Match 1: Crest Haven
>16 turns, three (3) blueball temples and twenty five fucking minutes later
Maybe I'll stick to eggs... I still won
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>trying out my latest Rose Queen iteration
>against some dragonchud who dragonsigns into Zooey
>luckily he's a betafag running the fish package instead of just forte garyu to insta win
>manage to drop my queen while having 7 1pp cards and being at 19 hp. Im out of evos so his Fennie gets to live.
>"i win chud, my otk is ready and you cant kill me"

>zooey

My entire deck is constructed to build this otk.
I spent the whole game trying to live while building my stupid combo.
All that effort to instalose to a single card.

This shit is so ass
Legit thinking about just quitting this trash ass game
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https://x.com/turuokakamo/status/1987797043239436384 based
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>>545985018
Based. I voted for them too though I fully expect them to get wiped out in the first round. But I'll be watching the konkoyo perspective anyway so might as well have some skin in the game.
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https://x.com/shadowverse_jp/status/1987716846921879923
Why do they keep doing it with the same exact unplayers instead of inviting some real players like the havengoddess?
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>>545982894
I never actually tweeted these in SV1 and still got the stuff, I doubt they check the tweets for the raffle.
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skybound dragon actually destroys puppet
I'm telling you bros, puppet is not staying t1 for long
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SEND ME BACK TO TOPAZ AIEEEEEE I DONT WANT TO PLAY AGAINST PUPPET AND SWORD EVERY GAME
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>>545985279
This is still the same event with the same teams and these dates set from the beginning. It's the finals now so after this they don't have to play anymore.
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>>545984881
Heh. Nothing personnel, kid
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>>545982894
Guess they didn't account for longer length team names.
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>>545985502
I see, thanks for clarifying
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>>545981780
Culpitan into Sandalphon is more often than not slow, Culpitan is ssba like Beliel, she won't always show up just like Beliel, and can't have the chance to be tutor'd with Lyria like Beliel can. He does 10 damage to the board and she does 7 random split damage and 3 to the enemy leader, the chances for a completely empty board when that happens so you can hit them for a total of 13 damage when combo'd with Sandal are low.
Abyss has Nehan and Fediel for more free evos than Yuel so it feels like overall you'll charge your skybound arts up faster when playing Evo Abyss over Evo Forest too. How is Abyss LESS consistent with win con that actually can win the game with no way to avoid it unless you play Haven and barrier yourself? I don't believe the reason the deck is shit is just because of Forest having already trash cards anon.
Also
>Sandalphon has the awkward situation where you might burn your effects to get him into hand then struggle to get his count down later.
This applies to every evo deck and I hope you're not just talking about it like this happens only with Abyss. That's just how your post comes across though so I had to make sure.
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>>545985372
Why do you think that is? I haven't played puppets in ranked this set so I'm not really at liberty to say anything about it. Just curious.
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idk why but there's a bunch of haven players giving free points in sv1 ul
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>>545986353
What's ul?
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>>545986379
unlimited
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>>545986379
unlimited
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Infinite healing Haven. Does anyone have the list?
I won but I had 1 defense left
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>>545986428
>>545986430
Ohhhh that makes a lot of sense, thanks for the info bros
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I just noticed that they hide this now. Weird, I hope people didn't see my profile and think I was hiding it on purpose. Wonder what they'll do next, I guess I have to check my profile more often when there's updates.
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>Opponent plays nothing but burn and storm
>I play nothing but burn and storm
>I end up winning by sheer luck
I love solitaire thank god they nerfed haven
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>>545986871
In what circumstance do you think people are going to check your profile and not do their own thing?
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where do i look for the new decks? there is a big difference between the week 1 and week 2 deck listings on the same craft for example. is it a twitter hashtag?
t. casual user
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>>545987126
i always do this in lobby tournaments because there's nothing else to do anyway lmao
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>>545987187
https://shadowverse-wins.com/
There's also some other sources in the rentry.
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>>545987236
you must play the soccer
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>>545987187
svlabo.jp
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>>545987187
yes twitter is your best friend
but if you can't separate fake post or real post, then I recommend to look at rigze's video. he makes video about latest list with winstreak/beyond found on twitter. but since he has to make the video in the first place, it is usually late by a day approx

https://www.youtube.com/@rigze0925/videos
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He's so lucky bros
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>>545987441
Elves are groomers…?
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>>545987126
When seeing someone misplaying every turn on the knockout table
Doing this for long enough shows rune/sword = mostly diamond no matter how bad they are
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yuuri just reached beyond with this
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>>545988256
better forest housepet
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>>545988256
What does he do?
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>>545988359
he uh
forges bonds
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>>545988359
he draws one card
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>>545988391
>>545988412
Holy shit...
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>>545987289
>>545987418
>>545987426
thank you, anons. it's always difficult to navigate fan sites for japanese games, but you guys help make it easy.
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>>545988439
Base Flair
"Borf, borf!"
—Bond Forger

Evolved Flair
"Booorf!"
—Bond Forger

Fanfare: If you've played at least 2 other cards this turn, gain Storm. If you've played at least 4, evolve this follower. If you've played at least 6, gain the following effect: At the end of your turn, return this card to your hand.
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dirtGODs we are so back
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>>545988805
Sounds fun
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>anons are being helpful
>not calling each other niggers, brown, faggots, tumors, or various other slurs
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>>545989190
shut up frogniggerfaggot
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>>545988256
I hope this game gets a spy x family collab and we get a anya visage
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>>545989190
feels like old /svg/
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>>545989190
Speak up frog bro
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If you're gonna frogpost at least use the good frog.
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got all 5 of chests today going 10-5 in sapphire
see you tomorrow!
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>>545989537
See you tomorrow anon
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Casualbros, is it worth to get to grand master? I'm still in AA3 and close to master promo
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>>545989619
no
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>>545989190
comfy hours don't last for long...
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>>545989619
3 free packs
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i cant believe i didnt get a single leggo this chest event
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>>545988359
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>>545989619
realistically it's just a couple of packs, i'm still half way there because for me it's not worth grinding for it
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>>545989619
For GM0 you get 3 (three) packs, a flair and a pretty boring sleeve. It's nice if you get there naturally but I wouldn't bother specifically trying for it.
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>>545989776
>Combo 3 - Become a Quickblader
Grim.
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I will now buy your battle pass
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>>545989676
Hi hi! Haven't seen you around much lately, are you doing alright?
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who looked at this and thought it's okay
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>>545990458
Have you seen kaori's ears in the home screen background? I don't think they care much
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>>545990561
Oh and if anyone goes looking at it, the problem is mostly visible during some of her animations when you click on her.
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>>545990258
>Combo 5 - Become three Quickbladers and progress your Skybound by 1
Dawn.
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Do legendary card pack tickets expire or nah
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>>545990764
No.
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>>545990764
Nope.
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>>545990676
>>545990258
>Combo 7 - Become nine Quickbladers and progress your Skybound by 3
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Leader Tickets do expire so if you have one from launch use it soon
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>>545990338
what do you mean, I'm here every thread... but thanks for asking, I'm okay! I hope you are doing well too friend!!
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>>545990839
I certainly hope there aren't people here that haven't used their Leader tickets. That would be unfortunate.
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yeah thanks for reminding me that the only leader i have is albert
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Best
Leader
Ever
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>>545990913
haha
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>>545990913
albert is super cool and handsome though
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>>545990839
they won't be gone but it will automatically exchanged into one of the item you can get from that ticket
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post ptsd
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>>545990897
It feels like you don't post as much, that's all. I'm glad to hear you're doing okay. It's very cold... I'm happy you'd call me a friend as well, thank you! It's what I'd like to be for you anyways. Good luck with your queues, if you want some help finishing your weeklies I'll be here. Otherwise, have a good time in Shadowba!
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>>545991219
ugh
really?
might have to get the belial card skin then
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>>545991220
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>>545991208
Albert is still the best male leader in this game to me. Bubz is a close second and Wil is third. With each set I'm more pleased that I got him.
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>>545991208
i don't play sw*rd though
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>>545991412
i agree with you, but i am going to replace him with zeta in like an hour sadly
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ah the good ol days
https://www.youtube.com/live/Ia-EkTTWGnM?t=29785
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>>545991220
Thank god Cygames would never go on to repeat the mistakes of Wonderland Dreams haha
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>>545991519
are they in heaven
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>>545991476
Zeta seems cool too, idk what her Evo animation is like though yet, but the more quality leaders we can enjoy, the better.
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>>545991619
yes
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Who do you choose? I know Nijisanji team will win. They are sweaty tryhard otaku and CR only play Apex. But I'm still pick VSPO.
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>>545991563
Did we ever have a true tier 0 meta after WD?
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>>545991660
I picked k4sen, didn't share my tweet though because I don't care about their 10 pack Twitter raffles. They suck.
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>>545991563
>can't play her onto a seraph board without losing the game
The since time it happened will always be a fond memory.
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>>545991373
You have 180 days to rub it off, or else he'll come on his own.
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No one gave up so early when I'm playing Haven.
Conclusion: Puppet is broken.
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>>545991735
Storm cards are typically good for ending a match after your opponent drops an 8pp do nothing.
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>>545991660
I picked k4sen
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Aggro sword is actually kinda fun, it plays exactly the same as face dragon.
Still need more optimization though, deck lists are all over the place
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My students shine more than gold.
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>>545991940
i like to use the combo of kagemitsu comes back into super evo and double hit from knightly ardor spell for 10 damage
it's retarded but it puts a smile on my face
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>>545991756
noncon redemption...
>>545991906
Hence the fondess. I don't even remember how it got to that stage at this point, but seraph was two away and bampi decided to give me the win(?)
It was fun at the time
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>>545991987
BASED kind and supportive teacher
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>>545991987
. . .
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>>545991940
The important thing to remember about aggressive sword builds that distinguishes them from abyss and dragon is that sword has always been able to grind surprisingly well. It's basically always the control against other aggro. You often don't want to be going face on sword even against slower decks if slowing down can set you up later and identifying when you should play that way is the main skill test in the deck.

By comparison face dragon has its name because it always wants to go face at all costs. Aggro Abyss in its latest form is just aggro blood and plays to it's outs and has better reach than the other aggro decks, it's to be seen if we ever see any aggro shadow iteration of the deck
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fast guide on dirt rune? what should I mulligan for?
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>>545992332
Aggro abyss (shadow) won't be a thing unless we get cards with storm or burn when coming into play and a ton of reanimates to spam them
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Also Aggro Abyss is the best aggro deck. My proof? Just trust me bro.
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Ready Kou? Right behind you You!
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Odin = 7
Cerberus = 7
Double Razory = lethal

Nerf Cerberus
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>>545992803
Dirt has the most complicated mulligan in the game because it always wants to counter mulligan in every match up. The quick guide to playing dirt is basically "do whatever play will piss your opponent off most every turn"
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So we're all playing the superior card game instead of this swordrune tumor meta right?
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>Mirror match
>Opponent gets their cards and (You) don't
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>>545993067
You? Me? Him?
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>can't jump on top of the loading screen
Dead fucking game, holy shit
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>>545993423
I dropped this. Any game with a stamina system is far from superior and not fun for me anymore.
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>>545993657
>loading
voting*
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>first day i try and get all 5 boxes
>not even a pack worth jn rupees
>not a gold worth in vials
WAOW
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>>545993423
it's not pvp so meh
and slay the spire 2 is coming so I'd rather play that
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>>545993163
What?
You literally just want to have your early tempo start and going so that you can stabilize Lilathim later or just have enough stacks for edel norman the two whores
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>>545993820
That's the usual and people say rewards are not nerfed
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>forest vs. haven
>haven goes second
>drops wilbert on turn 5
hrrrmmmm thought of conceding are rising
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>>545994030
Just turn him into a 1/1 fairy?
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granblue gets actual collabs like hxh and evangelion but shadowverse has to play with its autistic younger sibling uma musume
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>>545994114
>Paid full time job gets collabs with rancid dogshit
Oh no!
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>>545994114
>granblue gets actual collabs like hxh and evangelion
these are awful
>shadowverse has to play with its autistic younger sibling uma musume
>and granblue
>and other cygames properties
this is good
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>>545994094
Sadly I didn't have Titty in hand.
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>>545994187
this website is 18+
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>>545993925
Dirt runs a ridiculous amount of low cost cycling. You can very often hard mulligan for match ups without being punished unlike a lot of decks. Like the actual mathematical probability of tossing your entire hand away to hard mull for Lilanthem and still get your 2 drop is over 90%.
There's a lot of optimization in the mulligan people keep missing in dirt because they don't know their probabilities but you absolutely want to be doing things like hard mulls or fishing towards better set ups for your turn 4-6 earth rite sequencing. It's a total waste to mulligan like a normal deck in dirt.
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You will get vtuber collabs and you will like it.
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>>545991716
WD did irreparable damage to the game, real damage, not /svg/ doompost damage. Anything that could get close to what Neutral Blood was in that set got emergency nerfed within a week like Discard Dragon and Machina Forest.
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Goodnight (6:30 am) /svg/
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chest event gave me a third copy of lili but i don't think any decks use 3x copies of her sadly ;_;
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>>545994341
Why would an 18+ year old care about shounenshit or Evangelion?
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>>545995278
Cute, thanks for the share
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>>545995257
?
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How does one play loot or dirt and still end up in my elo (1200)? It's just unfathomable to me.
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Bros am I retarded for not wanting to get the battle pass and stage because they're collabs and not really shadowba?
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>>545995574
arent they all characters from the same universe anyways
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>>545995557
Both decks are just the right level of difficulty where they're not hard enough that people just avoid learning then to begin with but not easy enough that any player can actually just pick them up and start winning like when Crest was good
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https://youtu.be/C33unl3_bqI?si=kieqb7w-mlZ7hZqW
It's up
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>>545995739
shadowverse isn't really the same universe as granblue? i think? idk much about the lore
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>>545995574
you're retarded if you buy the stage regardless of context
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>>545995574
>am I retarded
Mildly.
>not really shadowba
What exactly makes something real shadoba? The bulk of shadoba card characters were originally from RoB, all of the first two set's leaders included.
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>>545996117
Granblue is Shadowverse but Shadowverse isn't Granblue
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>pay for stage
>nothing is interactable in it
What a scam.
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>>545996882
You get the best stage bgm.
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Riona vs Matsuri
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>>545995276
HxH is the greatest work of fiction ever made though
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Eggs Portal looks funnier than Puppets Portal
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>go first
>lose
brilliant fucking game design, cyretards
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>>545997882
sorry for your brain damage
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>>545997860
it's funny until you don't draw any egg generator
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>>545997860
This meta is good for egg, the deck shits itself against any deck that makes boards each turn like mode or midsword but those aren't common right now
It doesn't have enough healing to handle the average loot and puppet curves but that's most decks
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>>545998414
>forced safe horny imagery
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Why do dragon players think ramp 3x and dropping 10pp followers that are almost unkillable for the enemy at 4 or 5pp is honest or takes skill?
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grubslop is actively killing the game
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>>545998518
Underage HxH lover spotted
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Bros, if I want to play burn deck should I choose crest or eggs?
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Reminder that during our thread tourney it was revealed that most of the posters are crest haven abusers so their cries for nerfs or buffs should be ignored by the mentally sane
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>>545998807
Eggs is just crest but better
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>>545998807
Play dirt rune
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>>545998935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APdvjhro7rk
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>>545999280
Eggs don't hit the board and don't have a tutor that also destroys something for free on fanfare so that's objectively wrong, eggs are crest but worse.
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>>545999332
I'm playing, but I'm too stupid to pilot it
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>>545999403
It's also impossible to get your board wiped by eggs and eat 5 damage face at the same turn without super evo being wasted on axia
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>>545999403
>Eggs don't hit the board
you mean don't get stopped by board?
>don't have a tutor
6 cards vs 3 cards + 3 "tutors"
>for free
5pp is free now? more like you destroy something for 5pp and get a 2/4 shitter for """free"""
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>>545998414
How is this a haven card?
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>>545999562
So how did one guy clear my board and deal 6 damage to my face
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>>545999995
nun
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Lmao why don't you save those Sevo for next game, silly puppet
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>>545999995
Haven is literally called bishop in jp
it's a nun
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spaking of the /svg/ tourney, I've discovered something suuuuper interesting... but I will keep it a secret for now!
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Yaaaay! 5 months later, I finally got this achievement
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>>546001451
Portalbro...
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>>546001451
your fairies?
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>>546001486
>>546001712
I exclusively play Haven and our cards suck
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>>546001891
what haven followers even have rush? tiger is afaik counts as amulet
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He's currently roping me
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So from what I understand crest is too slow for the current meta and eggs are pretty decent?
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>>546002167
No eggs are trash too because you can't go 10 matches without generating any eggs what's decent now is puppet because lyria can dig for orchis.
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... Your response?
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>>546002134
>H*ven
deserved
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>>546002251
how many egg generators does egg portal play?
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>>546002504
Why?
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>>546002308
fediel :3
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>>546002563
That was their response
Please remove that card from the game...
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>>546002661
oooooooohohohoho
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>>546002251
>can go
Fix'd
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>>546002661
>>546002730
Why does the mahjong cat play SV?
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>>546002527
All the 2 that exist and it's obviously not enough because the whole deck requires you to draw 3 out of 40 cards before turn 5 AND to have a couple of puppets to not get raped early game it's absolute dogshit when you can just play loot sword and auto win every match.
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>>546003126
Because the mahjong cat was promised mahjong
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>>546003129
sounds exactly the same as puppet with orchis+lydia then
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>>546003363
Not at all puppets don't need orchis to win you have zwei and early board control from puppet lancer orchis is just a luxury premium finisher 90% of my puppet games end with oguri cap after the enemy doesn't save removals for zwei or wastes his big board swing to kill 2 drops and gets raped turn 6.
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Havenbros, do you run pure crest or hybrid? Please give some lists.
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>>546003671
Pure crest with rodeo, hybrid is way too evo hungry while also requiring perfect curve for it to be any good.
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>>546003671
i run amulets with colette and agnes because they're cool cards
cant seem to win any games though
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https://x.com/eightzhuan/status/1987879078872117355
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>>546003671
every haven deck sucks, don't bother
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Look, they gave them all husbandos.
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>try to brew some jank tier 4 storm haven
>only face crest and ward haven
fuck off
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>>546004816
The matchmaking is totally rigged by AI the moment i cut the third sylvia i get 3 loot sword matches i put her back and loot sword is gone
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>need over 1900 for top 100 with Sword, Portal, Abyss, and Rune
>need 1850 for 100 with dragon
>need barely over 1750 for 100 with forest and haven
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>>546005342
Healthy 5 crafts meta all is well in shadoba
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I saw some anons kissing in 21488 the other day.
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I can't take not playing forest anymore, is roach still the strongest deck or has tempo taken over
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>electricity went out for almost a day
>couldnt participate in tourney
>didnt finish my quests after reset
Felt good desu, i am actually quitting

Selling my account
Leader tickets:
>dumb forest cat as leader
>beelzebub as leader
>smug dragon girl as leader
>Cerb as leader
>Belial as avatar (fabulous)
>Wam as leader

Battlepasses
>all rewards from previous paid battlepasses (not current as i was not sure i like the girl)

Vials
>176k
>~100k in premium cards

Gold
>17k

Crystals
>1200

Price: 100$

If nobody wants it i guess it will just rot
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>>546005342
Sword beats portal
Portal beats rune
Rune beats abyss
Abyss beats sword
Dragon beats or loses to everything depending if they get the stupid auto win gimmock off early game.
Sounds like a healthy game to me, haven is gay as fuck anyway with their removal/ward spam good riddance if they fall off from meta.
Shame about forest though, that's was a fun craft when roach was good
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Neutral 2PP 2/3
Ward.
Fanfare: Draw a card. If you have 0 super evolution points, give this +2/+2 and restore 2 defense to your leader.
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does the evolve reveal season ever stop? i swear i have seen a new card at least every two weeks
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>>546005691
Eudie buffs when?
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>>546005656
forgot to add:

Legendaries:
like 90% of all current legos
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>>546003671
It really depends what you face
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>>546005656
best of luck anon, life is better on the other side
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>>546005691
Evolve has super evo shit now?
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Wait so you guys don't even like the game?
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>>546006556
Thanks anon, getting realy deja vu because thats how i left og sv1. I remember portal was first introduced, i played a bit of take two, missed one day because was super busy at work, and just never launched it since then.

Hope i didnt go to retarded with price, because few anons here said they got 0 leaders after paypigging 200$ on last set only.
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>>546006797
I like it but I also don't grind it out, just play a few games, do my dailies and log out. It's the people that make it a past time that get burnt out
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>>546005656
what happen? I dont keep up with news
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>>546006797
i love shadoba. but the last set was better
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>>546006957
Name eight reasons why
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>>546006797
There is nothing to like about this shit except girls. And honestly even art looks so.... amateurish, just doesnt feel real, i would never save it if i saw it in random 4chan thread for example.
Gameplay is literally
>whoever draws cards in right order wins

free gibs are shit, mechanics are retarded and they already introduced invoke cancer which will fuck game for years to come.
Avatar lobby feels pointless, theres literally nothing to do except search for games, no point in it existing.

Also if you didnt know cygames is really scummy company that defended japanese pro mtg player after he got caught cheating on stream on mtg tournament.
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>>546005691
check her type too
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>>546006951
Nothing, i just want to quit with some money in my pocket for time and luck i spend playing this game
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>>546006797
I like the game i just don't live for it, i have a job and other games that i enjoy playing, friends and the occasional sex with coworkers, I'll usually do my dailies as an excuse to play 4-5 matches and be done, last set was awful because every match was just crest haven infinite stall infinite board clear infinite healing and infinite face damage so i was doing dailies versus bots and considering quitting the game but this set i can actually play ranked and face more than crest haven and loot sword so the game is enjoyable again for a casual like myself.
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>>546007148
i dont like your tone so no
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I'M TIRED OF WARDSHIT
GET OUT OF MY GAMES
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>>546008062
Increase your rank
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>>545993725
play wizardry daphne
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>>546006792
dumb cat
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I posted an image of me reaching legend alongside an image of (fake) deck containing fennie and people slurped it up.
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>>546009283
Sounds like most dragon decks on shadowverse-wins to me
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What a surprise
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>>546008062
people realized that the entire evo/ward package is dogshit and went back to pure crest
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will aggro abyss actually be faster chests than tryharding with a real deck
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haven't played today yet
i'll go with haven this time around
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I have sword fatigue
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>>546010373
crest is still dogshit
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>>546010375
>aggro apiss
lol.
if you want braindead turbo games play aggro sw*rd instead
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>>546010840
but i'm straight
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>>546010819
it's good enough to stay in diamond and i went 4-0 in this weekends tourney with it
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>>546010983
>diamond
If you are not GM then it's irrelevant
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>>546011062
Gm doesn't matter though the matchmaking AI will force you to be above 50% win rate so all you gotta do is play enough to reach top 100.
Master group system is the only true way to measure how effective a deck is.
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>>546011537
what
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Is it true Evo Dragon is about to become a meta deck? Toby is 22-3 with it right now.
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>>546011602
yes. a pro reached beyond with it today
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>>546011602
Dies to mode abyss, evo abyss and crest haven. Take it how you will
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>>546011602
>https://x.com/yokoshima_ja/status/1987491828229460039
>財宝には相当やれます
Finally, the Loot counter
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>>546011828
>>546011602
Almost like I've been saying for weeks since the expansion launched that midrange dragon is good instead of playing the meme ramp shit
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>>546011828
I won't really call it a counter. You still die if they nutdraw
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I'm going to spend my gold for Filene leader
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Purple fart: shadow coded
Red fart: blood coded
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>>546006797
the more vials i have, the more i can like it but my vials... i need to save...
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Watching Maito eat through 3 mode abyss ginyuzus with evo Sword gave me a hardon
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>dragon drops ramp
>becomes good
lol
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>>546014602
they should genuinely remove ramp so that they would have some space to design an actual class
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>>546011828
Looks quite bad
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>>546013401
Imagine these 2 having sex
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>>546014768
Dragons are big and overwhelming thus ramp makes perfect sense for the class. Dragon just needs a last words Ramper low cost like Aiela.
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>>546011828
>1.2M views
more people stroking it to a decklist than actually playing the game
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>>546011828
>(((dragon))) class
>2 lizard girls
>a bunch of mermaids and literal japanese schoolgirls
>only 1 actual dragon
WOW I SURE LOVE (((DRAGON)))CRAFT IT'S MY FAVORITE
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>>546015586
1.2 million Sword haters
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I REGRET CRAFTING 3 GALLEON BALLOON TITS
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>>546015885
man who gives a shit
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>>546015586
I see at least 5 players streaming it
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>>546011828
idgaf if it becomes meta, I'm not running Meg on principle of her being a shit gold
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>>546011828
Why is this doing so well against puppet and loot?
Is dropping dragon sign really that game changing?
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>>546016081
Technically you crafted 6 balloon tits

>>546016103
me, I care
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>>546013401
Sooo...
Sham is shadow or blood?
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>>546015885
>"forest"craft
>treepeople is a subtheme while fairies are the focus
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>>546015885
Looks awful
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>>546015885
>le insert epic reddit meme about dragon being fish xD
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>>546015885
I see the vision but relying on just sandal or Genesis as the wincon seems kinda bad
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>>546016118
If everyone is playing this deck now, how do we counter it?
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>>546016142
She's still awful in that deck too. Like the only time you can feasibly evolve her is around turn 8
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>>546016251
she is her own abyss thing unfortunately
blood did have the spider cards tho
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>>546016741
>>546011738
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>>546015885
>no wilnas
>no zooey
>one (1) ramp card
what a fucking disaster
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>>546016251
Pure Abyss
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i voted for spicies' team because they have cute boys
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>>546017021
very soulless dragon deck, this is what sword/aybss/portal meta does to people
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>hit gm
>try aggro abyss
>first two games are puppet
oh ok i see why it's a bad idea
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>>546015885
i like this :)
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>Dragonplayers wanna ramp and greed the fuck out of the game because they can
>someone makes an actual deck that plays the game turn by turn like everyone else
>suddenly dragon is good
Dragon is only held back by the profound mental retardation of Dragon players
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>>546017971
there's something shameful about refusing to interact with the deck's core mechanics. It's like how tempo forest is only usable because of falling back on Jerry. where's your class pride?
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lots of swordbabs downplaying a good deck
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>>546017971
nah that deck is trash, there's way better variant of it out there
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>>546017747
nvm the second opponent was eggless egg
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>>546015885
>Drop dragonsign for meg
>Drop wilnas for olivia
>Drop zoi for raging thunder
>Drop forte for izmir
You really expect me to believe this is an improvement?
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>>546018615
The deck is tailor-made to beat sword (and puppet)
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0 tickets btw
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there's no payoff for ramping lol just play normally
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>>546016741
puppet is secret tier 0
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Are there any royal decks that are competitive 1600+cr aside from loot?

I just want to use zeta, I don't like playing loot.
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>>546019249
Uhhh Genesis at pp10???? Just pray they don't have a ward up.
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>>546019249
>he hasn't ramped into genesis
>he hasn't played T5 Garyu
you don't play dragon
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>>546019364
Maybe my list sucks but I don't think it's that good
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why is storm haven so dogshit? evo forest looks like a tier 1 deck in comparison
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I'm so tired of Odin man.
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>>546019506
they don't even know what tier 0 means, it's nowhere near popular enough to be considered that
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>>546019506
It isn't puppet just beats haven and that's the most played class in the general so they seethe at it
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>>546019564
Because only good legendary for it is Odin
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>>546019364
If puppets are that good why do the streamers going for rank 1 like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AKEhS5f30c or Maharu play eggs or some weird hybrid version?
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>>546019782
Because puppet isn't that good
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>>546019713
oh yeah...
that's actually literally only legendary i run
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>>546006797
i like the game but hate sword, spellboost and dragon
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>Zirc
>Coin BeaZea
>Coin Odin
I'm tired boss.
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>>546019959
skill issue
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I like this list way more, not soulless no ramp
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>>546019913
>hating dragon or forest
easiest way to tell someone's lack of moral fibre
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>>546020063
ramp is cheating
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>>546019782
>click on the link
>pic related
uhhh... What was your point again?



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