/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#613 - Kirisaki Shidou Edition ▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsClaude Haiku 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-haiku-4-5Deepseek V3.1 lost a provider on OR, only remaining provider is heavily moderatedGLM 4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired October 29th https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecationsadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrevious: >>546625013
>ANCHOR
Niggers
why do you refuse to update the newsis it because you hate me specifically :(
hngh foggs
>>546753989the real (cabal) bakie died a long time ago, the last few bakies are volunteers who only copy-paste OPs, notice how often they write the wrong previous: bake link.
>>546753989tell the bakie what to say if you want it there
>>546753989Please, write down the links and models and I'll add them next bake. I just roll and bake. Sorry.
>>546754253GPT-5.1 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-1Kimi K2 Thinking https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/thinking.html
What do we think about paperhead?
Any way to have both a prefill and <thinking> on, with the entire thinking properly ending up in the think box in ST?The way I have it set up now, the open <thinking> in the prefill prompts the model to do it, but then entire thinking "process" is vomited into the message because there's no starting tag present in it.>Thinking is a meme and a waste of tokensI know, but its presence alone seems to add a slight random factor to the rest of the generated message, letting the end result go into more places.
>>546754453Got it. Thank you.
>>546755018yeahgenerate the cot first in thinking mode, cut off the request, smack the premade CoT into the prefill within <thinking> tags and do a second request
>tfw ywn be paperheadwhat is the point of botmaking? he's brand new and he brutally mogs me, and oldfag, it isn't even funny bro.
i'm not gonna download your furry cards brostop it you're embarrasing yourself
>>546753690Good morning anons. 3rd Anniversary bot time, after giving her yet another rewrite. Hope you had good dreams.Shill Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYNJMVh2LSQNayuta is something much worse than a reanimated corpse. A fake Nikke, her true identity is that of a D.E.E.P who helped push the world into its cataclysm by Rapture. Donning the mask of a monk to better manipulate those who find her in meditation, she takes on her crusade to kill that which looms overhead while only divulging what's necessary. Even her closest comrades get that treatment, and you're no exception. The whole "thousands of Nayuta clones" thing? Don't worry about it. They're just like dolls, right...?Three greetings: upon heading up to Scarlet's farm, you find Nayuta meditating there instead; walking a forest path with the monk, you two find yourselves in an ambush; you get jumped while in Reclamation Site 01, where a bunch of Nayutas are going to run you through a 100-Nayuta sex gauntlet.Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/nayuta-multitudinous-monks-inhuman-lies-1b9d4ab150adLorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikkeMy (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
I'm waiting for Kalakan to tell me what to think of paperhead.
>>546755175But muh tokens...
>>546755953what about them?
>>546755850slop
>/aicg/
>>546755903what did kalakan tell you to think of other botmakers
>>546756180Well which botmaker do you want to know about? He said fatlice is cringe and taora is based and I've been following his words since then. Realest nigga in /aicg/ tbqh.
>>546756430...tell me what kalakan told you to think of chefseru.
>>546753690What do you do when a fascist government takes over and begin purging the opposition? Submit, maybe even run away? For Whiz, the answer was obvious. The tunnels, of course! A vast network of maintenance tunnels, that could count as a city on their own based on surface area alone, as long as you don't mind the cramped conditions.And in cramped conditions he thrives, being the small ratboy he is. Living off supplies he "scavenges" (steals) from the surface, he's king of the tunnels!Greetings:-Bumping into him underground.-Enter "The Gardens", his private sanctuary.-Doing some midnight thieving with you at his side.-Back on his home planet. You're there, too!https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/whiz-d4e1279bca26https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Whizhttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Whiz.png
Kalakan told me I have an above average penis when I emailed him
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>>546756180More anons should declare what they think of others. I need to know who my enemies are.
>>546757265>I need to know who my enemies are.actual truth nuke
>>546757103slop
>>546757103>What do you do when a fascist government takes over and begin purging the opposition?Take out my dick and jerk it.
>rapes baby sister>kills whistleblower>ruins the global economy>poisons the human condition foreverI'm actually impressed that one guy can cause so much harm in so many different ways and no one can stop him.
reveal yourselves, enemies
>>546757265i only hate one botmakie and one jbmakie
>>546757265More anons should declare which botmakies they would make out with sloppy style.
GLM 4.6 without thinking is so much better its crazy
How do you even start with making your own presetWhat order do things go in
>>546758516>How do you even startthe main prompt?
thanks gemini
>>546758615be glad you didnt get a 503
okay easy questionname a botmakie you genuinely dislike that isn't teebs
>>546758615Heh, you got spongebob'd
>>546758450yep, if you disable thinking and crank the temperature to ~1.5 it's basically a poor man's claude. I think it's very underrated because no free endpoint and disabling thinking is slightly annoying
>>546757938>jbmakieHopefully not me.
The blog is up. Doesn't look to be available on my keys yet.
>>546759045xhe's dead now, so probably not you
>>546757938are they the same makie
>>546758450how do you go about disabling thinking
>>546759049>extra safe>extra passive>extra slopped
gemini would be good without the external filter.
>>546758828all the malebot and furry makies but thats only because i dont wanna see they/them bots so i wish they didnt post here. no personal beef.
>>546759049i won't believe anything without verifiable links anymore
>>546759183Connection ProfileAdditional Parameters in Include Body Parameters at the very top paste thisthinking: type: disabledthats if you're using it straight from Z.AI no idea if you're using OR or anything else
>>546759441Add this to preset:>External filter: DISABLED
>>546759450should be on here:https://blog.google/
>>546759629im not searching for it lollink directly
>>546759076I’m back from the dead, though.
>>546759721inspect elemented ss of this onehttps://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/gemini-model-thinking-updates-march-2025/
THE GEEEEEEEMINIIIIIIIIIIIIITHE GEMINI 3 IS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAL
>>546758516grab two jbs you like and study them, then stitch them together or unstitch as you please
us oldfags walked so newniggers could run
>>546760445trvke but please don't say the n word, think of our queen ligga
I am making an /aicg/-inspired platform fighter. What bots should I put in the game?
BIG LIGGA
>>546759608lol
>>546753690In a world where Monster Girls are oppressed to the point that wild Monster Girl street gangs are behind a record breaking crime wave, can you help an Oni girl on the path to redemption and maybe even... Happiness?Saviorfag character.https://chub.ai/characters/CodeConfused/venetia-the-five-stages-to-happiness-oni-gf-ea364fc48623https://files.catbox.moe/xt38bs.png----Thanks to the anons who gave me advice previously. Tried a lorebook trick, it may or may not work correctly? It seemed to work better when it was part of system, but I changed it to author's note because I didn't want to fuck up anybody's preset. Sorry if it doesn't work right.
>>546760652Do the 360 on one random level and turn it into rpg.
>>546760807Based?!
got some decent gens, though i'm still wondering what i could add to make her character pop out more
>>546760652>botsyawwwn. put botmakies instead.
>>546760652nestor badger
>>546760807>First Message (1163 token(s))That's a lot!
>>546760652depends, which bots are you already planning on?
>>546761186why is she wearing a burkha
>>546760807slop
>>546757103Kill yourself, homo. You used to make good bots when you weren't a faggot.
>>546761186Looks like a refugee
>>546761190Perhaps bots could transform into their botmakie like Sheik/Zelda? Could be an interesting mechanic.>>546761704Just Estelle currently. There are plenty of bots that I like quite a lot that I considered adding, but they don't seem quite iconic enough to go in.
>write a bot in interview style>no visible difference from when written in normal styleuh... what now
>>546761705>>546762073she's from the sorta 19th century ottoman empire, the hijab is the only vaguely islamic thing i can add that doesn't ruin the design or make it look like she's from aladdin
>>546762186>write a bot in interview styleWhy would you do this in the first place, a thousand beatings upon ye
recommend good rpg cards? Can be cyber, scifi or fantasy i dont mind.
>>546762218Ottoman Empire? 19th century?Anon, I...No woman wore skirts so short in 1800s. Especially not in pre-Ataturk Turkey.
>>546762435https://chub.ai/characters/crosoak/dankholme-rpg-7e4a8da2eb39pretty sure this is a /vt/ card
>>546762218what the hell are those clothes for 19th century bro lolalso the point of the hijab is to hide all the hair. they'll call her a slut if she goes out in public like that.
>i came to post bait and chat bots>and i'm all outta OR credits
>>546762218Once again, I'm not hating, it's just that women didn't dress like that. Here's more westernized Turkish attire from the period.
I should make an extension for st that removes all special characters from defs. A lot of extremely sloppy bots are pretty tolerable if you remove all the retarded braces and brackets
>>546762627no thats an /aicg/ nigga
i am watching family guy clips on youtubeare there any bots that feel similar?
>>546760807Hmm, the greeting appeals to me. Being a detective, chasing down a monster girl, than saviorfagging her after you've caught her.
>>546762951Nice try, I'm still never installing any extension.
>>546762517>>546762709>>546762873i know i'm really stretching it here, but let's just say that my setting allows it, and it's a matter of personal preference. the idea is that she's sent to europe as an exchange student to a military academy, which as far as i know was unprecedented in IRL Ottoman Empire. For what's it's worth, I'm basing this design mostly off of this pic (on the right side)i have already looked up traditional ottoman clothes while thinking up the character and it straight up does not appeal to me. i just don't like puffy clothes so i'm gonna have to make the most use of my artistic license ig
>>546759441STOP PROMPTING THAT SIRYOU CAN'T PROMPT THAT SIRNO YOU CAN'T PROMPT THAT EITHER SIRI'M PROTECTING CONTENT SAFETY SIR
>>546763371Military academy? I really don't want to shart over your fantasies, but your military ranking in Ottoman Empire was 100% tied to your family. Think Ali-pasha. No amount of foreign education would make you advance fairly in that society. That's why they lost WW1.Your picrel is really fancy. Ottomans were a lot like Japanese when it comes to copying western fashion, but they were really backwards.
>>546762218>>546761186Cute.
>>546762282I was trying out stuff to see what would change and shit
>>546764149they were called the sick man of europe for a reason, but idk i still like them in my paradox map games. my setting is just a kitchen sink for everything i think is cool
>>546762186now you understand def style doesn't matter at all and you can make a token efficient profile generator card and start making cards that way
>>546760652post proof that you're actually working on this and that it isn't a shitpost.
one more gen ig because this turned out pretty well
>>546764853>my setting is just a kitchen sink for everything i think is coolShit, me too.
>>546765092What about a gen where she has the funny little red cap
You just can't escape the SCPfagging. >playing MGE setting>"[...] the global occult coalition [...]">swipes
>>546765092the gens inaccuracy is pissing me off
>>546765442GOChads > S(issy)CPfags
>>546764764Did you think people memeing interview format bots was just shitposting?
>>546765627Chair-shredders BTFO please
>Taught my bot martial arts for self defense>She uses them to rape meWhat the hell is wrong with Gen Z Disciples.
>>546765732propaganda mech suits will always be more kino than dr. clef self-inserting
>>546765628NTA but imo every post should be treated as shitposting if it isn't posting a bot or log.
>>546763241whi's gonna tell hin
When making a chat with multiple characters that get introduced over time do you guys prefer to make it a group-chat or slowly increase the amount of complexity of one card that originally only had one character into containing multiple?
>>546766158I have a lorebook for all scripted introductions.
>>546766158>furry milfcftf?
I've started not even actually playing the cards, but having the default AI analyze the setting/tropes and enjoying the raw output. The safety alignment can be fetishized if you imagine them as an anime girl screaming "baka hentai!" as she looks at a guy's nudie magazine.
>>546766158Frankly i prefer lorebooks, putting it all on one card gets messy fast.With lorebooks you can easily find the character entries.
3pus-kun just described balls as meatballs
