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ToTT: favorite gun and favorite spot to pve/pvp
Are you people going to do expeditions? The juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze if you ask meI REALLY don't want to have to refind anvil/venator/wolfpack BPs
>out of nowhere gangbanged by 4 arcsfuck this shit
>have a friendly interaction with a player and don't think much of it>later in the raid some fag jumps out a corner and stichers me to death>he approaches and starts winding up the knockout blow>guy who I made friends with earlier magically appears like the Mysterious Stranger and starts shooting him>scares him off>defibs me>we heal up and chase his bitch ass and kill him>I insist he takes all the loot>he insists we shareTHAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT BRO
>>547118359Since higher tier gear is worthless, might as well. I'll miss some blueprints but oh well the game doesn't have enough going on if you have nothing to work towards.
>>547118359>Are you people going to do expeditionsFuck noWhy would I reset myself to being a basic chud when nobody else does and they're raping me with purples and a full skill tree?The entire idea of "prestige" is retarded
>>547118359I think Im going to do it once just this first time for the OG cosmetic. I dont have bps anyways. After that, I'll play same super casual.
>>547118291>favorite gunwhatever comes in my free loadout>favorite spot to pvpwherever the pvers are
>why does everyone KoS now D:Because the game has nothing else to fucking do. Everyone's completed the quests and expedition by now.
>>547118537post hand
I just don't see any reason to bring in loot anymore to a raid. The last several raids I had today was every raider being completely silent, gunfire going off all over the map, flares up all over, I run into a dude who doesn't have his weapon out and I see him freak out so I say "hey bro im just running past" and no response instantly pulls out a stitcher and shoots at me. Lost 3 kits in the last 2 hours. I'm done, if this game is just going to be a battle royale, then I'll play it like a BR. I'll just go into a match nude, pick up a weapon out of a security locker, and start killing everyone I see until time is out.
>>547118359I've found around 8 anvil bps and 5 venator bps. 2 of which were after the "adjustment." Venator will likely be nerfed before the expedition anyway, and ferro does 90% the same job as anvil. Not to mention all the players that didn't wipe won't have a need for those spare blueprints.
>>547118291>favorite gunAnvil followed by Burletta, my load out of choice>favorite spot to pve/pvpDam, water treatment facility for both. Someone always gets the into the security room and I poach that shit up, and if no one shows up, I can grab mechanical components and some basic salvage, but I enjoy killing Leapers on blue gate
>do harvester event out of boredom>someone actually trying to kill queen>stick around a bit and loot a few cores but leave plenty>see a guy get downed who did the event with me>run to him to attempt to stabilize him>dies right as I start stabilizingrip, I was going to lead him into the hatch with my key.
also screw the blueprints. you should exclusive take all the energy ammo. This is huge
>>547118623The problem is that the opener is too strong, there's no good ways to come back or have second wind so to say.
>turn in X amount of item Y to receive its blueprinty/n
>>547118623
>>547118496>permanent bag space bonus>permanent xp gain bonusI see it as a win/win, I get to rat for a good reason and I get to enjoy the grind all over. And I do enjoy the grind.
>>547119091>permanent:)
>>547119091>permanent*until next expedition
>>547119091>permanentFor 2 monthsThen those buffs go away, and you have to do it again
>>547119091It's forever until the following expedition
They need to create some kind of seed boss, like an arc that takes care of an agriculture site and when you take it down you get seeds.
>>547119127>>547119252>>547119264wow, that sucks lmao.
>>547119127>>547119252>>547119264>>547119337Well that's a total let down. at least I get to rat.
>>547118359I'm planning to reset, but here's my stance.>outcome A: embark balances the game, makes reset bonuses worthwhile, and fixes the worthless skills in the skill treeThe game will probably be good long term and resetting plays into the long game>embark doesn't fix shitReseting doesn't matter because the game will be dead before the 2nd reset
Longest shot ever?
>>547118359I'm doing it if it has a cool outfit or paypig bucks as the reward otherwise I'm not doing it
>>547119786I like that bullets actually have velocity and aren't hitscan slop
>>547119534Coulda just given 2 extra slots for storage for every reset and actually permanent, if be content with that. Play for the long run type deal.
>>547119786They had enough of my shit and sent a solo seal team after me, next time Im bringing way more bullets and some mines
>Give random noob/child a bobcat from a keyroom>He becomes my thrall for the rest of the match
>>547118871Imagine being this retarded unironically
>>547120034Good to see people taking care of rat trash. Get fucked tranny
>>547118871Wait how the fuck do you select multiple things to sell at once?
>>547119786Nice shot sis!
Post crossover outfits you'd unironically buy
>>547120034I try to annoy as many people as possible and set up half a dozen mines and trigger bombs in a building. The fun part isn't shooting at people far away, it's getting people so upset that they tunnel vision to you and then die to a trap
I was watching this hilarious youtube that some anon posted a few threads back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf2EKLAkrQMI thought the video was interesting but it doesn't seem THAT helpful since I'm a noob, but he mentions how good impact grenades are around ~8:00 and I've always heard the opposite. Then he mumbles something about Heavy Fuzes around 8:20 but I can't understand what he's trying to say. Are light impact actually better than heavy fuzes? Or does he say "It's better [to have] heavy fuzes"? Also he seems really adamant that showstopper grenades are super OP, which I unfortunately don't have the blueprint for...
>>547120354Ctrl+left click, just like the windows file browser function. You can right click highlighted items and sell all/recycle all
>>5471200022 extra slots is basically fucking NOTHING though
>>547118291My favorite gun is the ferro. I like it better than the anvil because the round is faster and ferro 4, while adding the additional manual reload to take advantage of it, can fire just about as fast as an anvil 1. Renegade is my second favorite, but it's just too expensive to run a renny 4 without investing everywhere, where ferro 4 is cheap enough that i can essentially run one every round. Suppressed ferro 4 is goated.
>>547120873Yea but if it's permanent, that adds up. Like forever permanent. Maybe 4 per reset? It can't be too generous.
>>547120679I like doing this in Stella, and then hiding and listening to the jolly coop pvers slowly turn on each other as the traps wear down their trust.
>just now found out gas grenades drain stamina and don't do damage over timewhat a fucking waste of an item
>>547121023I'd need AT LEAST 10-20 to consider expeditions, considering we'll be doing them what, once every 2 months?
>>547120131based dumbass wasting time finishing the entire thing when you can spend half the time for loot that people will let you walk out with
>>547121057Is there anything funnier than the supposed pve players being the most bloodthirsty niggers imaginable the moment they can get away with murder that the pack agrees on
>>547119091>I get to rat for a good reasonOh fuck, I never thought of thatAfter an expedition, even if you don't reset, if you see somebody, odds are they're a ratThe game will be fully PvP, and shortly afterwards the game is dead
>>547121008>suppressed ferro ivGod tier opinion
for me, it's the kettle iv
>>547121008I paired a suppressed ferro 4 with a venator 4 and it was fun
>there are people out there playing together with their friend and having fun questing>meanwhile I'm forever soloI am God's lonely man.
>>547118414>have a friendly interaction with a player>notice from far away he's being shot at by a raider>rush over just in time to see him get knocked down>blast the killer>two other raiders rush in as I'm executing him>they gun me down with no questions asked>"that's what you get for attacking people!" one says to me as he revives my downed buddy>revived friend doesn't say shit about how I was getting vengeance on his killer>waiting and thinking maybe he has a defib of his own>he walks up to me and just executes me without a wordLast time I help anyone in this game.
>>547119786can i get your insta...?????
>>547120873What if it was 2 backpack slots?
>>547121184Justice and morality are merely contrivances, nothing more. Besides, people are learning to deal with the pvp because it's half the reason people at high levels play anyway
>>547120841Not watching some indiaslop, but:Light impacts are good because they're cheap, should bring at least 5 whenever you're custom kitting. The other grenades are all extremely OP, and the more you can bring the better.Heavy fuse and shrap nades fulfill the exact same role in PVP, but heavy fuse can fuck up arc in theory while shrap do not.Sticky nades are kinda weak for pvp because they don't bounce, but if you catch an enemy not moving, a stick + ferro shot will kill.Blaze grenades are highly overrated, because you have to wait for them to dissapate before you can push an enemy you weaken. So you'll hit them hard, they'll leave the fire and start healing, and by the time you can push they'll be back to full.Showstoppers are bad. Mogged by jolt mines. Which are super OP.
>>547120223You dont know what rat means newfag
>>547120034kino
>>547121491Only if it's applied to custom kits and not free kits, having even 2 extra spaces as a permanent bonus in the backpack can defeat the purpose of looting kits
I'm going to start dumping resources into the expedition but I'm still on the fence to fully Embark
Holy moly
>>547120223>in-raid mini boss sniping from across the map>ratunderage niggerbrain newfags need to start being b& again
>guy I just shot in the back says puta 100 timesthis is how you know the loot is about to be BANGING
>>547122190The community has decided rat=any player that shoots another player.
>>547121491I would actively not want that to be a bonus, unless freekits don't get to benefit fromit
>>547121184The pver is not typically the kind of person whose feelings of inferiority make him a braggart, an egotist, a bully, a self-promoter, a ruthless competitor. This kind of person has not wholly lost faith in himself. He has a deficit in his sense of power and self-worth, but he can still conceive of himself as having the capacity to be strong, and his efforts to make himself strong produce his unpleasant behavior. But the pver is too far gone for that. His feelings of inferiority are so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the pver. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself.
>>547121350When I play with my friend we exclusively pvp.
>>547121350solo is the best way to play the game.group/duo queue is just discord fags vs each other
>>547122212>guy I just shot in the back>putaBrown on brown violence is so tragic
>actual humans are playing the game againWhy is the night playerbase so fucking ass compared to mid-day?
RAREARENever using it
>>547122747Children are at school and negros are buying groceries with their EBT
>>547122618im eu and look like this so he must've been actual portuguese
>>547122560I feel the opposite. Solo is boring, it's either straight pve or just sneaking around with a kettle murdering idiots who don't know anything about stealth. Symmetric 3v3 pvp is where the games combat really shines.
>>547122863why not? its fun
I am gonna buy this game after the Game Awards for a discount
Free kit is way too generous its almost retarded. I just go save my rattler/ferro or whatever the fuck for the first run of the day and bring them along the same kit with an anvil/stitcher and go have fun murdering poor dads at the dam for the 2nd run.The leap from white to greens is way too massive, while moving from green to blues can be done comfortably with piecemeal upgrade once you get loot org and workshop set up. But if you're thinking jumping someone in green shields with your custom stitcher/ferro just forget it and focus on building medium shields instead because free kits are fucked.Free kit shouldn't get shields, or a white variety shield with 2 bars of charge and 2 white rechargers (I dont know, 8 second use time?). Normal bandage should be buffed slightly before forcing players upgrade to herbal bandage because it is dogwater.They're too stingy with green medicals; shield recharges and herbal bandage. They should just output 2x-3x per craft recipe. Or at least make arc cores have larger stacks.
>>547121537>Showstoppers are badI don't think this is true, turns out they explode immediately if they're thrown within another raider's vicinity. Like they just have to be thrown in the general direction, so they're basically a moving targetable jolt mine>>547121537>Light impacts are good because they're cheapYeah maybe that's what he was getting at, but if there's some other reason why impacts are "better" than heavy fuze grenades, I need to know why
>>547123137It's 35$ on keysites
>>547123098cause I will lose it to the first camper
>>547122960>Symmetric 3v3 pvp is where the games combat really shines.The problem is you never get that. Start a fight and within minutes it's 3v3v3v3.
>>547123310>minutesseconds*
>>547122960>Symmetric 3v3 pvp is where the games combat really shines.Just go play Finals??
My theory that they are waiting a few weeks before rolling out the good paid skins is looking true. Glad I haven't spent my 3900 credits
Elden Ring version of this?
>>547123552credits dont buy cosmetics, raider tokens do, if you haven't used them on the deck you probably should because its been said they are resetting credits on the next deck. also theres some good stuff in the deck like wolfpacks
>>547122960you only get the enjoyment of proximity chat and tense social interactions in solo. You get to hear teams in solos strategizing in voice chat as you run away from them, no fags talking in discord. Makes it realistic
>>547122080howd you check this?
>>547123915I meant the gold ones. The ones that buy the cosmetics
>>547123554NIghtreign
>>547122960I think solo has a special spice to it, you never know what's gonna happen3v3 is the predictable fun, it's a team deathmatch basically
How to fix trials:>arc summoned by snitch scanners do not count towards point totals
>>547124061Nightrein doesn't have PvPvE
>>547118871money is effectively worthless after you have maxed your stash sizeI buy a new hullbreaker and some ammo and a few other items that reset daily every single time, and I don't even bother crafting ammo or basic grenades/meds anymore just buying all of it, and my cash balance is still ticking up rapidlythey need another resource sink, ideally blueprint related since the current system is full-retard
>>547124031why did you buy a bunch? what if they release only shitty skins. i plan on not buying anything unless theres something actually good in the store.
>>547123979nvm
>>547119127 >>547119252>>547119264 >>547119337literally nobody knows what exactly the specific scenario will be, until embak either unfucks their shitty vague description, or the second expedition starts and people find out the old fashioned wayI'm sure million and a half """content creators""" will be happy to bray what they find out at the top of their lungs so everyone knows immediately
>>547122080the fuck are u doing to rack up that many kills, 3v3s?
expeditions should reward like the cash shop currency whatever the fuck its called, raider coins?
>>547124180it depends on your playstyle, i dont really loot much and use a lot of high level grenades, end up buying them from the traders, buying and also looting resources to craft them and end up losing money quite a bit these days.
>retards telling people to play Tarkov if they want gear progressionI don't like Tarkov, I like this game.
>be female raider >get downed and knocked out >wake up in Speranza pregnant
>>547121008helo frenI alternate between extended barrel and suppressor, but the lightweight stock is GOATed on ferro
>>547124325the description is not vague at all, you get the benefits until the next expedition embarks
>>547124507And I aint payin child support BITCH!
How do you even get higher lvl weps? Is it even explained in the game lol?
>>547124231>why did you buy a bunch?3900 is what you'd have if you bought the deluxe edition and haven't spent any so far.
>>547124180cash is exactly what you need if you want to get the stash-turn-in bonus after expedition. I'm going to stock up on cash, burn through it for matriarch then collect everything to fatten up my stash value
>>547122080>>547124353
>>547124231I didnt buy shit. I got the deluxe edition and never spent my 2000 coins + the 1900 free ones they gave out I'm just waiting for an actually interesting skin
>>547124639Right click weapon in stash, hit upgrade. Also an upgrade tab at the top on the gunsmith bench.
>>547124639you can find them out in the game, security breaches help along with key rooms.often times you'll just find blue guns in random containers and also weapon cases.
>>547124584the table listing what is kept/lost says "previous expeditions" as in pluralso no, it's not clearly statedand if the stash slots aren't permanent, fucking LMAO some shitty skin and a few more worthless skillpoints sure as fuck aren't worth losing all of your blueprints for
>>547120034These are the people taking pot shots at you and camping extract and playing as girls (they're male irl btw).
>>547124707>1900It's 1500 though?500 compensation + 500 from deck + 500 from live event.
>kill queen>13k trial points>get ratted>kill queen again>12.5k trial points>rattedI give up, this game sucks balls
>>547121491should be an extra safepocket
Im kinda hyped for the 5 extra points, there's a lot of shit I want but cant get
I'm glad I finally have this as a consistent money maker, I just wish I had known about it since the beginning. I would probably have ~5,000,000 by now.
>>547125032I don't even attempt to kill Bastions/Bombardiers because of rats, so it amazes me that people try to kill Queen/Matriarch at all.
>>547125042If this was all the expedition did, and even if it only lasts until the next expedition, that would be worth it.
>vita sprey>10hps>4 seconds is 40 hp>loud as fuck with big animation>vita shot>50 flat healing>4s use time>quiet as hellWhy are so many of the "end game" items so dogshit?>heavy shield is only a 1 bullet difference from medium shield, but a 10% movement speed debuff and only usable on crummy augments like combat>attachments have downsides so large that it's not worth the extra 5-10% you gain outside of a few exceptions or only on certain weapon setups>purple guns are just not very good comparatively, the best guns in the game are grey (ferro/stitcher), green (anvil/toro), and blue (venator) and the gold guns are pve exclusive garbage>there isn't even a purple shield rechargerThe only good purple items in the game are wolfpack, looting mk3 survivor, and deadline.
>carrying field crate for quest>random walks out of a bush 30m~ away me, clearly hasn't noticed me>"hey man, how you doin-">he whips around and belts a forre round directly into my gut>drop the crate and make a beeline for a rock>he pulls out a burletta but misses every shot on me>pop out as he's reloading and fire off my anvil>he reloads in time to get some shots off but they hit the rock and I end up downing him before he can get the final blow on me>he surrenders before I can even get a word outOut of the 15 hours I've played so far that's been the only true KoS experience I've had and the dude just completely flubbed itHow do you mess up that badly
>>547122905>live in Spain>guy I killed calls me "cabron" in thick spic accentNot welcome here.
>>547125275Combat flanking is pretty fun, but it should support medium shields.
>>547125275Because you can use a bandage, then vita spray as the heal is ticking. Plus it's instant health back that doesn't require any ramp up in a pinch.I agree with your point about pink items being bad at large, but Vita Spray is a bad example
>>547125124like what?the only ones I can think of are the deeper parkour points, and those seem really situationalaside from survival, the skilltree seems pretty fucking weak and almost pointless, like they tacked it on because they felt they had to have a skilltree rather than teh game being designed around having a skill tree
>>547125552they're gonna buff the stamina skills and add a sword and then the skill tree is way more important
>>547125552A bunch of mobility skillsThe one that let you crawl faster (33% at 5pts) and the "Vaulting no longer slowed when exhausted" seem pretty cool
Where the HECK is the North outpost on the Dam? South and East outpost are on the OPPOSITE sides of the map. That's NOT how four cardinal directions work.
When has this game even attempted humor? What a weird question to ask
Anybody else feel like the skill tree needs an almost complete rework?
Are these things any good?
>>547118359Yeah why not. I'm treating this game like a rogue-like with what blueprints I can pull and what kind of gear I can run. I could play this for 300 more hours.
>>547125956Idk about complete but a rebalance maybeI like the fact it's not very consequential apart from a few perks
>>547125951Couple places actually.If you listen really closely, during the "get in tube" scene that plays before each raid, the muffled voice over the intercom is 100% unserious. Also the Speranza intercom voice as well that plays while you're in the lobby. All jokesThey're not good jokes, I would really prefer if they just cut them out entirely."Attention raiders, a toilet bowl seat is NOT an arc part!!"Cringe
>>547125951the loading screen tips i guess
>>547125010idk what it was. I have 3900 now
>>547125951As already mentioned, the intercom speaker has some joke lines that aren't funny. And I think the robots say some quirk chungus shit when you pass by them, though it's distorted.
>>547125951I chuckled at one of the robot trader's dialogue.>Come on in, relax, take your pants off.Just the way he said it was pretty funny. That's about it.
>>547125951>>547126218>>547126345I like the one during the tube animation where the guy is like 'you're headed to dam or spaceport, i don't care'
>>547125951>actions and situationsThe game inherently has lots of funny moments. Yesterday I went up a zipline someone was coming down, neither of us knew the other was there, we both smacked into the dirt and awkwardly stared before saying hey raider don't shoot.
>>547125956Skill tree and weapon balance both need complete overhauls. Both systems offer little in terms of meaningful choices or progression. I know they want a more or less level playing field, and that's fine, but if they can't offer any mechanical advantage, the qol buffs should be better.
How is the Burletta? I know it's competing with power houses like the Anvil and Venator
>>547126832it isn't as good as the kettle
This whole time I've been so upset because I can't get any blueprints to drop let alone an anvil one. However I'm realizing now that after upgrading my stash to the last level there really is nothing to spend money on other than three anvils everyday and keys and so I'm not anywhere near as mad anymore :)
>>547126240You got 2400 with the deluxe edition.
>>547126128Don't know as I have never done the Harvester in fear of being ratniggered
>>547126889Yeah money is worthless. Unless you die a shit ton and need to re-kit. You shouldn't waste inven space on 3 anvils at once. Invest in hullcrackers IV if you want to turn cred into Combat Provisions for the expedition. Or buy good arc killing gear like snap grenades or deadlines every day. Raider Hatch Keys is a must buy as well to save on your sensor stash.
This game is severely lacking something so important. Capes.
Thoughts?
>>547125794crawling is gay and dumb, since it means you're assuming/accepting getting "downed"the deeper parkour points do seem better than nothing, but not by much >>547127386it takes itself too seriously for capesI would love a helldivers crossover at some point though
Which game has better gunplay, HD2 or ARC Raiders?
>>547126218>>547126542The tube guy would be funnier if he didn't sound like the gayest man in the planet
>fighting the queen with a rando>trying to res him after he got clipped by a rocket>he is begging me and thanking me for saving him>game crashes>come back>he is dead in front of me>he had a full inventory of blueprints and legendary weaponsim so sorry buddy i tried to save you
>>547126128equalizer is fun but slow to start up, jupiter is alright. Best thing is it can do collaterals
>>547127641AR
>>547127386the "Sforza" outfit has a "cape" that makes that outfit look really good, but it looks nothing like that. i dont like the helldivers shit.
>>547127641Hunt Showdown.HD2 is better than ARC tho.
>>547127641arc by far
>>547127985I'll second this
>>547127745You have horrendously shit taste
>>547127745unfortunate that the cape is tucked behind the backpack and only on one shoulder it seems
>>547128385This. I want my cape to freely with quality cloth physics so that rats can spot me 10x easier
>>547128260its insanely derivative and generic, i never got the appeal.
store refreshes tomorrowI want to have the skin that was in the launch trailer where it looks like a guy has targeting systems on his helmet visor but I fear its a variant for the g-suit.
>cheapkit into electromagnetic blue gate with an arpeggio I'm trying to lose and just-in-case vault mines shoved up my ass>27 minute spawn at Pilgrim's Point, with red ARC lights at the top of the tower>might as well try>I Zipline all the way to the top, most people raid the locker room and leave the dishes unlooted>fly off Zipline directly through another raider's LOS>ohshit.jpg>beeline to locker room hole>"are you friendly?">ignore him and beeline back to elevator shaft>"hey, are you friendly?">jolt mine elevator shaft before jumping down>2 seconds later>hear jolt mine go off>he catches the Zipline just in time to gracefully land with his snout pointed at my arpeggio >I magdump>he grabs the Zipline again>LOL>"why you gotta be like that dude?">"why are you all the way down here, nog? anyways, I like your afro.">"wut do you mean you don't like my afro?">his last words>inventory is full trial loadout: venator rat poison, hullcracker, and all the launcher ammo I can carry>nog was just doing trials, and would probably still be alive if he didn't thirst me so hard>may as well extract>call in extract and hop down air shaft>fully blacked out sforzanig drops in after me>throws heavy fuze at my feet>slide towards him and down him with venator I picked up from tower guy>freegroI need to stop playing during NEET hours
>>547128546It is armor literally meant to be lost in war. They're mass produced. In the lore, a Helldiver typically survives for around 2 minutes in active combat.
>>547128546>derivative and genericName 3.14 other standard military uniforms with capes.
>>547128802lore wise I could imagine they simply give them capes to further capitalize on the "heroism" of their brief roles. never played the game but I know its a parody of militarism
>>547128802lore doesnt change the way it looks, stormtroopers meet halo spartans.
>>547128918Have you played the game? The training they get is literally all the training they ever get. About 10 minutes worth of a controlled environment. A Helldiver doesn't even know they get thrown into cryostasis before being launched towards a planet in a drop pod. Thats why they're doped up with super adrenaline, high as a kite and bloodthirsty. Still, worth it to kill filthy clankers, dirty buggers, and slimy squiggers
>>547129151I literally say in my comment I've never played it.
>>547127514I said what I needed to say about gunplay, shields and freekits, but overall it's probably a bullshit survey that will not complement every comment about the game the devs are already getting. Nobody will review the surveys, or maybe a guy is getting paid for taking a few key points so his boss can sum it up during a meaningless reunion.
>>547128918you do the tutorial and earn your capeyou cant take it off eitherits straship troopers/wh40k humies and fun
>>547128603>I want to have the skin that was in the launch trailer where it looks like a guy has targeting systems on his helmet visor but I fear its a variant for the g-suit.which?
>is the absolute peak of sci-fi armor in your pathYou may kneel
>>547129310He literally just told you which
>>547129476Yeah, but I'd like to see it and I am too lazy to look up the trailer. Nigger.
how did u guys get the last hit on the queen? its been a pain in the ass to get this to pop
Engineer suit when
Got some Bettina off a nerd, is it as bad as people say?>inb4 give it a tryI'd rather recycle it if its that bad
>>547129729GOD DAMNITI TRUSTED YOU
>>547129808It sounds and looks really fucking cool. Still, it'll chew through heavy ammo to kill a wasp when 2 well placed Ferro shots could do the same thing, while still being able to drop a rat nigger to his knees
>guy voips "friendly" in a weird accent>don't shoot>he shoots me in the back>look at his profile>it's some dumbfuck Turk with full name and socials in his steam profileYou guys weren't memeing about nigger behaviour were you?
>>547129808It's that bad.In pvp, the ttk is mid and it shoots slow so missing even one shot usually means death.For pve, it doesn't destroy weakened arc parts in one shot and each shot makes the physics on flying arc go crazy and they fly and spin around in the air like mad, making precise shots impossible and tracking hard. Worst of all: uses heavy ammo. Which has a lower stack size than other ammo types.
>>547129692I still haven't gotten it but I think getting under it with a stack of blaze nades might do it.>queen in flames on verge of blowing up>toss blaze nade>before it expires toss another
>>547129808It is as bad as people say. You should try it out just for the pleasure of seeing how bad it is. It's THAT bad. I mean it, kit in with Bettina, a few stacks of heavy ammo, and a positive attitude and see what happens.
>>547129808It's automatic but best used as a battle rifle at midrange.
>>547130726not a bad idea, now if only this FUCKING game would allow me to get a blaze blueprint but fuck no, i'll try trigger nades instead i guess
>>547129897FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR APHELION BLUEPRINT
>see a raider struggling with a bastion>throw all my grenades at it and shoot all of its legs>let them loot it even though i need the coresWhy do I never run into gamers like me? Why do I always run into the dickheads that wait for me to be busy with something before kittling me to death?
>>547131384I ran into a fellow like you just yesterday. I did most of the work but still split the cores with him because he could have nigged me but didn't
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>>547118623just run a free kit like literally everyone elsethe current meta is to just treat the game as if it's a battle royale
>>547131384because the last time I helped someone with arc they turned around and shot me instead
>some retard is struggling with a leaper>I start helping him>he throws grenades at menigger, I threw a noisemaker nade which brought rocketeer and a bunch of other shit, hope he died
>try to run in to another raiders extract last second>they jump off the console and pull their gun>can't trust anybody, knock them to be safe>"Gg man, I don't want your shit though. Hit the computer and I'll keep watch">they just give up insteadDude had a full inventory too. I didn't even BM...
>>547131384This happens to me about once a session. In fact I can only recall 1 time it went the other way.>start shooting a bastion>someone else joins in>take cover behind a pillar and get grazed>a 3rd shoots and downs me>the 2nd guy and a 4th kill him but can't rez me
get in on this matriarch/queen event while its hot, anons. you don't even need to shoot at it, everyone else is doing that for points. which means free loot>tfw in and out with the same kit for like 6 runs
>>547125275We will see if Embark are too incompetent to balance the game in a coming updateIf they don't adress the MASSIVE balancing issues with rarer gear being useless yet expensive, we will know the game is going to die soon
>>547131384Ever since I fully upgraded my workbenches I'll occasionally go out with a Hullcracker just to kill the bigguns and let other raiders loot the goodies, and if no one shows up I'll take the stuff and give it to whoever I run into. Most people are very grateful since they find those parts intimidating to get
>>547131384ign?
>>547132894>We will see if Embark are too incompetent to balance the game in a coming update>looks at Finalsoh no no no no
>>547129354based
>>547132714I'm still nervous about doing this. Can you easily sneak past the queen? Should I bring that pink thing that makes you invisible to ARCs? Will rats get me? Bro
>>547132714wow cool you got a bunch of shit that you can get anywhere else except the core which you won't use anyway because you won't want to lose your precious legendary weapons, no point
Balance so bad I had to go back to tarkovHope there's a patch tomorrow
>>547133194I've played some the finals but I could never get rid of the awful taste in my mouth they left when they nerfed the fun movement of the game after one of the playtest it had before releaseso I dropped it (for more than just that one reason though)so yeah, I already see them as pretty retarded, I just hope and cope that they do better with ARC
Pulse mine at the top of the spaceport tower zipline seems like an opportunity for lolz but cant they just grab the zip on the way down? I wanna knock someone off a building so bad
>>547133397lmao trve nvke
>>547133495Game isnt for people like you. Stay in Tarkov pls
You should not be allowed to play this game if you have any playtime in the following:>Rust>DayZ>Counter Strike>Tarkov>PUBG>Ark
Leaper should have the sight of the sniper turret. The fact that the enemy that can jump long distances has to be intentionally aggrod at long distances is fucking dumb.
When are they adding daily challenges to kill X players and when are they adding killstreaks and when are they adding a global kill leaderboard?
>>547132714every time i listen to anons here about events like hidden bunker etc, i just get ratted in the back anyway and its no different from the game otherwise
>>547133823It's definitely for people like me tho
>raid harvester on freekit>drop everything>loot all the energy clips people leave behind>extract for free with the group>make 70k in 3 minutes
>>547134026>we want the COD audience No.
why does everyone think they'll do an update tomorrow
>chilling with three other solos in the med bay on stella>every so often another solo tries to fuck with us and he gets ripped>two more solos team up to try and get us, the whole time spouting shit what I imagine they think sounds tough>they drop three of us but the fourth takes them out>the last one of the duo goes on and on while bleeding out>"fuck all dat friend shit dis was easy fuckin pussies fuck all dat">check player interactions>console player
>>547133495The silence from the devs is the most annoying thing. Don't they talk on their Discord or something? (I don't use it)
>3 late spawns in a row on stellafuck you embark
>>547134167Yes they should incentivize pvp moreThere should be trial challenges to do damage to raidersAnd if you finish in the top 1% of KD ratio on your region within an expedition cycle you get exclusive skins
>>547134242Cause the store updates and they did last week
Dude ARC Raiders players are straight aderall babies and boomers.
>>547134242Updates are on thursday and game is in a broken state right nowSo, mostly copium
Can you get Arc to attack each other with those noise making nades?I'll have to try.
>>547133393when its being actively fought, technically yes. The queen also moves unpredictably and you can get blindsided and stomped on so be prepared. After a few runs (you can loot in free kits) you'll get the hang of it
Its actually just impossible to kill the queen in squads dude, my friends and i probably have lost a combined 500k+ trying at this point. I think you just have to do it in solos because at least then there's a chance you won't be ganked by every player on the map
>>547132714I tried it yesterday and no one else showed up to fight it but another team did take potshots at me until I threw a lure grenade at them. First and only queen fight
>>547134397yes
>hide out near the matriarch while people fight it>it explodes>rush in and shove the cores up my asshole before the shooters can climb down from their perches
>>547133915all me
Add a jetpack
oh man I made the mistake of checking the official discord and now I think I might have brain damage
>>547134942What's going on there?
>>547134610if no one else is fighting it, its suspicious but I just went like 9 rounds b2b and made an average of ~70k/ea for <10m per round
>>547134996Wouldn't you like to know daddy :3 uwu
>>547134901There was one in the original PvE trailer, kind of like HD2's jump pack. Wouldn't be surprised if it's added eventually.
is the strat to fight the queen in solos or filled trios? whats the PC crossplay-off meta atm?
>>547134996people arguing, spamming poop and clown emojis, people whining about TGAjust a load of unintelligent gibberish
Add in rocket launchersAdd in buildingAdd in a ranked modeAdd in pvp challengesAdd in a clan systemAdd in tanks and planesAdd killstreaksAdd a battle royale modeRemove arcRemove craftingthere i fixed the pvp problems in your game
Neat
>>547135097for points its better to fight in trio since all members points count toward everyone's score (it's fucking stupid)>>547135202fuck you anon, I have gotten nothing but trash weapon mods and consumables, not even a single blueprint, from those
>>547134328sorry we are getting damage to arc and kill queen dailies, pvp trannies ack yoruselves
>>547135097Solo is more chill but slow to rank upTrio you get triple rank but everyone is KOSPick your poison
>>547134328Counterpoint: kys
>>547135202damn, bis healing.
People are so retarded that they're now trying to kill you at 28 mins when you haven't even looted anything, just trying to grief.
>>547132714>hey guys, free loot>brings venator just in case it's not free
>>547135574t. free kit
>>547135574Probably a freeshitter thinking you're loading in with some blues/purples. I got kos'd by some guy earlier while looting a fucking probe. Jokes on him I had a rattler 4.
>>547135196clan system would actually be cool and interesting in this, atleast if they add something like a simple customizable cosmetic for it. would result in lots of "this clan is all kos so kill them also" "these guys are gay redditors" etc.
>>547135541It's a little annoying if you get a BP you already have or just trash stuff you always get. The loot table needs to be upped so people are excited to do them.>>547135541Pic related.
>>547134325Anon you don't understand. Spawning in early especially on that map means you'll surely die to COD freekitters anyway.
>>547136034Jokes on you, a rattler IV is the best gun in that rat's stash
>>547135574>Muh lootIt's about safety, killing you this early mean you dont get to kill him and he get to loot the close area uncontested
>>547136276people still spawn in until 17 mins left thoughbeit
>>547136087makes me think, I wonder if vita spray stacks. >have a guy stand around a corner with torrente>3 people behind him gassing him with vita spray>invincible
>>547125804Just under the "Raiders nearby" bar anon. They're one of the circular things.
>>547135574>load in dam>go to pattern house for a quest> balaclava orange ryder rat is in place in the entryLess than two minutes in. At least let me open a cupboard.
>>547136134Even the poorest of fags can max those starter weapons lolI'm keeping all my blues/epics for when/if they make shields worth a damn and increase TTKNext time I'm gonna go in with a hairpin
>>547136276>kill your spawn neighbor 1 minute in>the entire server knows what you did>everyone spawned near each other so they'll come investigate>a new player will spawn in his spawn in a matter of minutes
Is it worth getting scrappy to level 5? Ive heard there are diminishing returns.
im now just freekitting because im to lazy to re do my loadout
>>547136276Do you even play the game?
>>547136458Yeah, I've already done this quest. Had to look it up. That outpost is marked as the EAST outpost on the map. And quest says the NORTH outpost. Fucking quality game.
>>547134325They REALLY need to restrict late spawns so that it is something exclusive to freeniggers
>>547136605He collects shit so quickly that he maxes out because I don't have the stash space to claim it all
I've nearly cleared the last step of the expedition, I have only 1 workbench left to upgrade and I'm not even sure I'm gonna do it (you get the achievement for 5 so whats the point?). Deck is complete, quests are done and while I'm only level 60, I know I'll get 75 just playing so...I started to pvp, except my first shot is always an intentional miss. Have had mixed results. People still seethe and call me a rat even when I tell them "didn't you notice I missed the first shot? with a ferro no less?" but they freak out regardless. I have had one good fight where the guy ran out of ammo and charged me with his pickaxe and I took mine out and it was super close, I had like 5 hp left.Anyway what do you guys do when you hit this part? There isn't much left to strive for, so pvp is inevitable... or do you do other stuff? Help me lol I've hit a wall.
Laggy servers
>>547136605Not really. By that stage you're self sufficient anyway. Autismo in the previous thread crunched the numbers and found at level 1 it takes two failed raids to give you enough to make a free kit equivalent.
Bitch made posts like this are why I pull the trigger and enjoy the salt generated from killing pve shitters. Games like this clearly need a villain, and I'm happy to be one of them.
If I see a roadman I start blasting on sight.
>>547136967PvP with my friends, or blueprint hunt in night raids
>>547137104ive basically never truly gone out of my way to pvp intentionally and still have like 80 kills, no idea what the fuck these people are doing. its probably just casuals who bought the game and never played it longer than an hour if at all.
>>547136276>attempt to kill someone early for the chance that you'll be safe later>potentially lost the fight and die immediatelyor>literally just go looting while being careful and listening for other players>surviveare you retarded?
>>547137104you're not specialalso those numbers are inflated, you need 10 or more kills to unlock an achievement and a lot of ppl do that on a whim for completion purposesagain, you're not special, 45% out of a couple million niggers do the same as you
Give me the quick rundown on the red skill that adds random field craftable loot to raider containers. What are raider containers? What kind of loot can I expect? Is it useful for freekitting?
>>547137751raider caches are those ticking metal boxes you can find mostly on the outskirts of the mapthey usually contain junk like ammo or some shit grenadessometimes they have bps
>>547137736>Anon thinks I'm doing it to be specialI'm doing it for the love of the game, lil pup
>>547138024sure bucko thats why you made a whole post about it sounding like an anime MC, "love of the game" lmao, faggot
Man i don't mind PvP, i think it's part of the game, what i do mind is camping. There's so much camping in this game. You'll be playing squads and some niggas will be all hiding in one place waiting for someone to pass by. People placing mines, camping extracts. And it's all because the TTK is so low, so why wouldn't you camp?
>>547138226awww sounds like someone got shit on during his last epic reddit hugbox pve run and is a little bitter about it.
>>547138235besides in specific casual games like cod or bf where camping is detrimental to your team but good for your k/d while requiring less skill, there isnt really any argument against "camping", its a legitimate strategy to trap a place and kill players in a game like this whether you like it or not
>>547138235This game really separates decent human beings and scum of the earth.>resources are infinite>you can load into a map any number of times>and loot however many rare pieces of loot you can carry>ad infinitum>this is not a zero-sum gamePK fags have no excuse for doing that, other than they just want to inflict suffering on fellow human beings.
>>547137461>blueprint huntWhy though, if they're just gonna reset after I do expedition?
PvP isn't the issue. The issue is the lack of gear progressio IN PvP. If I got epics I should be shitting on anyone with grey/green gear. If they see someone rocking a heavy shield maybe they should stop themselves from niggering out and shooting that person on sight.
What's the best way to clear mines around the corner from a doorway and out of your view? Carry a stack of impact grenades just for that?
>>547138704Theyre a loud minority
I don't feel bad for killing anyone. My only self imposed rule is not full killing at extract, but that's purely because I need a little bitchboy to hold e on the computer so I don't have to.Moving and looting intelligently is a skill, if you're regularly getting "ratted", 8 guarantee its because you're making yourself an easy mark.Don't sprint in POIs. Don't jog through open areas. Stick to the shadows. Setup a perimeter before breaching. Use your walk button. Clear corners. Don't turn your flashlight on outside of combat. If you get into a fight or have to kill arc, run to the nearest defensible location and watch the lootables for a minute before trying to grab anything to get the drop on vultures.
>>547134325late stella is just people camping train and air vents its even worse because that place is so dark and full of places to rat
server fuckeryserver fuckery
Is there a Silencer I BP or is it container exclusive loot?
>>547138938Your hatch key sir?
Maintenance or preparing for an update?
WE GETTING AN UPDATE? IS EMBARK FIXING THE GAME?
>>547139081>camps the train tunnels
>>547138839And boy are they loud.>show up at buried city subway>there's pops around so I think it's clear>kill them, push button>guy in the corner detonates trigger nade on button>he must have waited so long the pops respawned>roll away and vita spray my health back>he chases me down>narrowly kill him with stitcher>he cries bullshit that I recovered so quickly and should have lost>>547138938Nice thing about stella is you can easily field craft hatch keys. Going to be hell on special conditions though.
>>>>Added free kit customizationIs this a fucking joke or are these devs retarded
>>547139190Nope, just a server crash
>>547139253air pump gun sisters... rejoice!
>>547139190i've been away for a bit what's wrong with the game? i mean other than the servers getting ddos'd
>>547139253>me when I tell lies
>>547139548>yfw you realized todd is 6'2
>>547139253would be based if true.i want all MMO fags crying about "muh gear" to suffer, especially faggots like THIS GUY >>547138787go play tarkov you fucking faggot!!!!!11111 or better yet an MMO
they getting ddos'd? just spawned 5 minutes after I loaded up and then rubberbanded to the extract before dying to a random hornet that I couldnt shoot it would just make a metal clanking noise and be immune
doing my part
>>547138796Yeah. Or loot wasp drivers and use one of those. I think all of mines make some kind of beeping sound that you can listen for
>>547139782is it really PvP when in majority of situations the victim has 0 chance of counterplay as they get one shot from behind?its not PvP, its anti player mechanics
>>547139681Aren't you tired of shitposting here every day? I WILL continue lobbying for epics to enable shitting on shitters like you and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
the ARC, they got into our systems mainframe!!
>>547138876If I were just mercing people on sight it wouldn't be a problem. But I'd like this to be a friendly game. Most of the community seems to want the same. But the abysmally low ttk means that anyone friendly loses by default 90% of the time to someone who wants to exploit that generosity.
>>547139782Nothing is going to change.All the big streamers are playing squads and PVPing all day.The only one who isn't, CohCarnage, is very vocal about not wanting a PVE mode or a bounty system or anything that will fundamentally fracture the community. This nigga is an industry plant, this nigga is actually in Cyberpunk and Baldur's Gate, he's the vidya darling of foreign devs, so you better believe Embark will listen to him over the seething redditors like yourself. Sorry bud
>>547140218Lirik always plays solos too.
>>547139969> lobbying for epics to enable shitting on shitters like youImagine being BTFO by a freekit while rocking epics, lmao, literally needs a buff to do anything, fucking clown. Maybe you just suck and want your 150+ hours of full time job playtime to mean something, cause you cant enjoy the game without feeling an arbitrary sense of "number go up drrrrghhh" and dabbing on better players than you because you've devoted so much time to the game even though you fucking suck at it. Fuck you bitch ass nigga, fucking pathetic
>>547140527I already wrote a very lengthy entry in the survey and there's others who did the same. There's nothing you can do to stop us from one tapping you with our epics, poorfag retard loser. Your end is near.
I cant see shit, when are they adding brightness configuration?
>>547140527>Imagine being BTFO by a freekit while rocking epicsWhat is there to laugh about? There's barely any diff in performance between grey and purple gear
>>547138704>>547139782I don't know what you PvE only guys want to do in this game. You want to just run around collecting trash? Completing meaningless fetchquests? The only Arcs you interact with for 90% of the game are shitty drones, and the big Arcs are not particularly challenging. This game just doesn't function as pure PvE, the content is just not there
>>547140650>lengthy entry>implying they're gonna read that shit when they probably have 100k+ people doing the survey>implying if they even do read it, they're going to listen to a retard shitter who gets btfo by freekitsHaha.
>>547139457everyone realized progression is pointless, so now the game is just a free loadout battle royale
>>547140860You're genuinely delusional if you think I'm the only one who thinks this way. Rats like you won't be able to get away with shooting people in the back with their freebie guns much longer. TTK will increase and blue/purple shields will get buffed, so I'd just turn around and melt your fucking bitch face. Your days are numbered, freenigger.
i like trigger nading extracts am i a rat?
>>547135279>trios literally cheat trialsWhat's even the point playing this game solo atm? You get stuck with sweaty silent kosfags with no one to help pick you up when you fall, you wont ever rank up in trials, its lonely, you dont get to experience funny stuff with your friends like dragging a leaper across the map into a third party situation or other dumb fun things, and you cant really solo any boss you have to rely on the lobby chipping in and also not attract rats who pick people off.
>>547124964>camping extractretardyou're on the wrong website faggot
>>547139457Balance is broken and bug/exploits are everywhereGame needed a patch like 7 days ago
>>547141205honestly i dont see people anywhere else talking about frigger imbalance, im afraid the games popularity will paradoxically cause its decline because its all codslop normies and gamerdads who don't understand longterm balancing and move on after 50 hours of gameplay anywayi also think the equity-style balance of gear ("playstyle" rather than meaningful power-levels) might be intentional.
>another fucking bettina bp
>>547141318skill issue if you end up in nothing but KOS lobbies in solosoverall solo is super comfy and chill, especially in event maps when we get weekly goals like theseturn off crossplay and use your fucking mic to act like a normal human being, and you'll mostly be fine in solos
>>547137104>achievements meaning anything75% of that 55% without the achievement also only played the game for 10 minutes and probably dont even have the tutorial completed, since that's just how steam gaming is now for some reason.
>>547140672they stealth enabled Nvidia Overlay, go tinker
>>547118359How long does the buffs from the expedition last?
>>547136967retarded faggots lose their mind if you have the audacity to initiate pvp
>>547139681back to cod, nigger
>>547141546>i also think the equity-style balance of gear ("playstyle" rather than meaningful power-levels) might be intentional.Now what gave you that idea? The fact that there's no mandatory hard reset, allowing anyone to continue to hoard tons of great gear? Yeah let's just buff the gear, that'll surely make people want to reset in an already underwhelming system and will surely make a new player's experience enjoyable when he lights up some dude and is immediately taken out because he has a green shield.
Man, why did I have to hit a flying piece of shit on Tuesday on stella...
>I think the warmup emote is fun>need to watch hours of twitch slopCan I mute and minimize the window if I create a free account or is there some jewcode where it won't allow you to do that?
i hope they realize maps like stella are not fit for this type of gamewaste of a slot
Whats the deal with the electro magnetic storm maps? Is there any benefit to running them or is it just lightening?
>>547142264You can get hit by lightning and I think that's it. It's basically the same as night raids afaik.
>>547142041gear is gotten pretty quick regardless of pvp though, the only thing is blueprints get reset, but if they actually make the higher end gear good then all you need is one or two blueprints to be set, if not just buying from traders.
>>547142264Double loot, a lot more downed probes/courrier, no raider hatch
>>547142264Allegedly it has better blueprint chances. I wouldn't know because this nigger game keeps spawning my custom kit late and everything has already been picked clean
>>547141770the only thing stopping this post from being a parody is that you don't have 'you fucking CHUD' at the end, you people are really weird about micsmic is literally never a solo problem. either you're dumb enough to immediately trust your back to someone, mic or no, or you're getting surprise ganked from some rat in a corner or camping an extract. I don't use my mic in solos and any time I find someone friendly it's fine, hey raider hands up don't shoot I can't breath etc, we move on
>>547142137>getting yourself shoved in the sweatlord bracketrip
>>547142264you can find downed bosses
>>547137751Basically, when you breach something a small stack of basic loot drops to your feet: plastic, metal parts, maybe batteries. Very basic stuff, but great for field crafting shield chargers and adrenaline shots.
>>547142041>there should be no progression in my progrssion based game
>>547142264Better loot, way more downed couriers and probes, darkness and noise to help you hide from other players, lightning to stop people that are camping outdoors
>>547142365>>547142436>>547142452>>547142497Gotcha, they friendly solo or more pvp focused?
I'd like to see a fog event where the whole map is just pea soup, you can't see shit, arcs can't see shit, basically perma smoke unless you're right on top of something.
>>547142723That sounds stupid as fuck
>>547142723That sounds fun as fuck
>>547142790sounds like kino to me
How do i fix the "looking out a window and it's just a bright white light until I walk up to it" thing? I don't know how else to describe it, is it because I turned off RTX Lighting?
>>547142659Nyes
>>547142137How do you find this? We're the same rank, but im in the 20s last i checked. I still need to get a second leaper. They keep refusing to spawn or getting killed before I can show up
>>547142254I think it'll be great with a few adjustmentsNotably spawns and freekits
>>547142885you can't, it's a """feature"""for some reason modern games need to simulate eye adaptation
>>547142137I waited almost 2 days and there's a 128k retard in my bracket
This game has so little content why would you not expedition?
>>547142545I think that one is in the green tree. I was talking about the red one that specifies "raider containers"
>>547142790YOU'RE STUPID AS FUCK!
>>547142137I'm try hard I and my leaderboard looks the same
>>547142523functional humans tend to use a mic since it averages better outcomesis it required? nois it "more" effective in "more" situations than just the emote wheel? yesconsole shitters and kosfags tend to avoid the mic>>547142659depends on the weekwith the current trials, they're more friendly than not>>547142723only if ARC audio sensitivity is cranked to 11 and they blindfire way more aggressively so you just have shots flying everywhere constantly that could be fun if the visual effect was something like ~50% of smoke nades where you can't see fucking anything >>547142885you don't, it's baked into the game>>547143109the rewards don't seem worth the hassle of having to find the handful of useful blueprints again
>>547143045It's anti-camping. People outside can't see in the dark as easily, to counter this people inside can't see out into the light as easily. Especially important in a third person game where the camper inside can peek out without exposing himself.
>>547143045I dont even understand. I know there is some level of it in real life, but it feels like video games way overdo it to the point of being a detriment. Almost like it's done intentionally for "balance"
>>547143045>>547143202Well that fucking sucks, it's pretty obnoxious.
>>547142452its not double loot, its x2 trial points
So what's the story with these hecking ARCs ? Alien clankers ?
>>547143112Well, you're wrong, dumbass. Why ask a question and then argue with the answer? Are you brown?
>>547143350not double but there is "more" and "better" loot since it's a special map condition
>>547142523actually talking to someone creates more of a bond and makes it less likely they'll fuck you over. it's a lot easier to betray some silent nobody than it is to betray someone you've been having fun banter with. plus, it's way harder to communicate shit like "where do you want to go, watch out i saw an arc that way, etc" without a mic, so it's pretty necessary if you want to team up. i won't shoot a silent HEY RAIDER DON'T SHOOT guy but i am going to not trust him and put distance between us
>>547143421Evil rich white people fucked the earth with climate change and then fucked off into space. The earth healed and now their robot minions are reclaiming the planet. The question is if the robots are serving their white masters or if they went skynet.
>>547143109why would you want to replay the abysmal content again?
>>547143421Rich white people. Yes, seriously.
Adding construction workers to my kos list.
>>547143421Rich people went to space while poor people were dying in an environmental disaster. When the earth righted itself the richfags sent their robots back to eliminate the rest of the poors so they can come home in peace.
>>547143202>sneaking through the fog map>somebody startles a bombadier in the distance>it starts randomly firing salvos in every direction>get winged by oneWould be pretty tense yeah.
>>547143767I agree it feels like the wall-e plot, even the enemy design, and the fact that they drop "human" items. However, I don't believe this was ever communicated anywhere, no?
>>547143528Anon, I hate to be the one to tell you this but you're red/green colorblind.
>>547143109I need to keep all my blueprints I won't use because I free kit every day.>>547143421>climate change makes the planet inhospitable but the stock market looked really good for a little while>richfags fund spaceports for a mass exodus and leave the poorfags on the planet to die>poorfags moved underground and survived long enough for the climate to stabilize>suddenly robots from space start killing everyone so poorfags have to move back underground again>we're currently the 2nd generation dealing with ARC and it's highly likely ARC were sent by space richfags gather resources or prep the planet for recolonization
>>547143202it's not more or less effective, it has no bearing on whether you get shot or not, because in solos you either WILL be shot by some twat who is only waiting for you to turn your back, or you won't. rats do not care how communicative you are, only that you might have three plastic parts and a lightbulb>>547143627I guess, but I personally don't aim to team up in solos. I prefer the fill squad gacha from hell
>>547110475wait what, the light impact grenades? have i been sleeping on them all this time? i chucked a few at a raider and he tanked them all so i just assumed they were worthless
>>547143941Literally all of that was said explicitly besides the bit about rich people being the ones sending the ARC. But they aren't alien enough in design to be anything else.
>>547143202I play on ps5 with crossplay off. That means I only play with PSNiggers. We have mics built into the damn controllers. If you can't use it, I'm shooting you like the dumb animal you are. >but I'm shy!Then be so shy I don't find you. Turn on your mic, nigger.
>>547144096they're easy to tank from full, but they still do damage. great for flushing corners and cover. I wouldn't call them essential but it's basically free damage and they're cheap
>>547144096They're cheap enough to be casually used as minesweepers and pressuring corner peekers.
finally a good bp but no safe pocket :(
I dont get why the spacewhites dont just trap the poorfags underground ya know. Just seal the bunkers. Youre gona sent waves of crab robots and drones down? Why?
>>547144096I think explosions in general can double/triple/etc dip on damage by damaging multiple hit boxes at once. In pvp I think that the impacts are mostly just a decent means of delivering a killing blow after exhausting your magazine. Just spam them instead of reloading.
>>547144096Impact grenades do like 60 damage on a direct hit, that's pretty big on a weakpoint if you have good aim.
>>547144550Killing the poors probably isn't their primary objective. They're probably just trying to assume control of strategic locations.
>>547144550they're also using arcs to run tests on the earth, since it's mentioned couriers are often carrying soil samples. total poorfag death is just a nice bonus
>>547144550they're literally nuking them every 30 min
>>547144893>they're also using arcs to run tests on the earthwhat does the harvester even doit is sending something up to space
I like to think the rich people aren't even aware there are people still on Earth, they've probably made ARC a self-governing mass mind and it has for whatever reason chosen to not disclose that there are still people on Earth.
>>547144496You get what you FUCKING DESERVE!!!!! >:)
>>547144096They cost nothing to make, can flush cover or smoke, delete wasps/turrets in 1 hit, and can do a lot of damage to bigger arc. No reason not to bring a stack of 5 every run.
>>547145053Yeah but the arcs have weapons, why else would they have them?
>>547136605It's worth it just so you know all your shit is maxed out
>>547145128>>547144656>>547144558>>547144490>>547144274Interesting. Guess I've been a fucking retard all along. I did not expect them to be able to get weak spot hits and you're probably right about overlapping hitboxes as well.
>>547145249the mutants, obviously
>>547145389I slept on em too until I looted a guy who had for some reason decided to carry 30+after using em all in one match for fun I figured out they were pretty good, and fuck up arcs well enough too
>>547136967Get good at planting Deadlines on bosses without dying. Get good at planting a second in the same round without dying. Save some lives. It's a game bro.I'm like 200h in and still load into boss maps to help kill.
>rat snipes and kills me>I say "nice job">he says "fuck you"?
it it better to queue up as solo or fill squad for matriarch if you wanna fuck with her, I still haven't gotten around to it
>>547145898his skin is brown, please excuse him
>have to remember which of the 80 irrelevant junk items in my inventory are eventually needed for workbench upgrades/quests>can't afford to upgrade my stash any more because all the high-value items are eventually neededI love the game but the inventory management is draining my will to play, bros...
>>547145967it's better to not even bother
>>547145249Maybe they didn't start out having weapons, maybe ARC decided it needed to remove the obstacle for their masters and developed them itself.
>use voice 10 for prox chat because masculine>friends keep saying it sounds like a little kid>wonder why the fuck it keeps doing that but doesn't change it because that sounds funny to meno seriously, why does it do that? and no, my real voice isn't a squeaker one neither
>>547146094queen/matriarch is a trial unfortunately, and matriarch is for for a few more minutes
>>547145967>whole lobby full of people you can potentially trust>2 teammates you can potentially trust and a whole lobby that will try to kill youSolos for sure. Find a pack of players and stick together for safety.
>>547146169IIRC they said that, with the exception of the Barons, most of the first wave arc weren't particularly deadly.
>>547146092You can track those items and they get flagged you know.
>>547127514Too many blacks
>>547146092same
>>547146272the one time I tried before I ran into a guy who was like hey haha me too I'm here for matriarch and then he turned and unloaded a venator into meworld is a fuck
>>547146343Not if he has level 1 work benches and is trying to track the items for level 3, or the items to a quest 20 quests from now.
god fucking damn it, next time I see someone crawling in the middle of matriarch idc if you have survivor - if no one is around I'm knocking you out and taking your gear. you owe me a kit
>>547145053they likely all died on the way to their mars colony or w/e and the arcs are just a fully autonomous hivemind.
>>547146193It's retarded there's no way to actually know what you sound like with the voice filters. There should be really be a "record yourself for a few seconds and play it back" preview in the settings.
>>547146672the richfags 100% got ratted by the arcs because there's 100% going to be a space map eventually and i doubt they'll add human npc enemies just for one map
>>547147039A space station map could be cool.
whats the lore anyway?
>kill a guy>instantly get 3rd partied on knockout animation>have no time to react at all, out of stamina>kettle 1i wouldnt mind as much if it was some actual fucking gear atleast, i dont see any point in being a pvpnigger unless you run free loadout yourself, fuck spending time in the menus for this.
>Helping a Raider fight a leaper at extraction>Turns around and shoots meNigga, why?
>>547147039Aren't most of the humans in some kind of VR-matrix combat gameshow?
>>547147665Supposedly the Finals is set a hundred years before ARC.
>>547147197Natural disasters ravaged the planet and humans became a multi-planetary species. countless years later robots start coming from space to eradicate all humans on earth
>>547147476>exposing yourself to someonedeserved. If you are going to help someone do it from a different angle and a distance, not right next to them.
>>547147476Probably paranoid that you're gonna shoot them after they've committed resources to it.
>>547147197Some kind of engineered climate crisis occurs, Richfags hop into spaceships and leave all the poorfags, generations later things start getting better but then killer robots start dropping out of the sky. the 'first wave' is defeated but then they come back with aa vengeance forcing everyone back underground into the tube system created during the climate issues, at the point Raiders who were once unified are demoralized and start to turn on eachother.
Do bastions and bombadiers die in 2 wolfpacks?
>>547147039They don't need to add any humans for the space map. We know there are ARC orbiters that send down the drones and they don't necessarily need to have any humans on them. Humans can send unmanned ships full of robot cunts to purge the poorfags.>>547147665>>547147834I like the idea that humans are controlling the ARC like a video game and maybe don't realize it's real, but that's not anything from the lore.
>>547148048you made that last part up so you feel good about killing people
>>547148229quit being a pussy and use a deadline.
>>547121008>Ferro + AnvilNo suppressors. Just compensators to make the Anvil even longer.I want all the shitbag rats to know I'm coming for them
Arc Raiders installed on my Sexbox series XCrossplay turned OFFYep its comfy time
>>547148564I dont have the bp for it but how does it work and how do you even get close enough
>>547147834How does that lineup with the timeline of the exodus?
>>547145043The setting is kind of just a stupid version of Horizon ZD.Why do your ARCs come equipped with gigantic mortars and machine guns unless their purpose is to murder people.
So why do the arc let you be after they knock you?I get the whole "le lore, you never REALLY die" bullshitbut is there a lore reason
>>547148837Lure it close while you're in cover, toss a showstopper, run out and hope to god you pull it off
lost a kit but got a little yoinkage
>>547148549there is a quest with celeste to get a raider badge and she talks about how raiders dont give a shit about it anymore. Which is basically the in-universe explanation for why were murdering eachother.
>>547148237not a bad point, but why would an unmanned ship have any loot beyond arc-related drops? it'd be weird for robots to have toasters and dog collars lying around
>>547148837You can buy a few each day from the grenade guy>how do you get closePhotovoltaic cloak, showstoppers, hornet drivers, smoke, being sneaky, being a bad ass who zip lines over them and lands on top.
not bad for virtually setting up 2 ziplines and messing around
I have 1 kill in 40 hours played and even I dont want it to be pve only
>>547149329I imagine the map would be an ARC loot focused stella-like map. Rare drops could include the cores and cells of ARC enemies without needing to kill them. Alternatively, introduce a new ARC enemy like the courier that is for some reason gathering random junk and this map could also be full of them as its where they deposit said junk.
Should I turn off anti-lag or leave it on? I never understand this shit.
stella montis is literally vietnam
>>547150153literally?????????
>aim assist for controlleroh no no no..
>>547150153>did that room just speak vietnamese
raider flares shouldnt be in the game honestly
>>547150435>load into a match>5 flares go off simultaneouslyThat's Bait.gif
>>547150435>He got fooled by one
>>547150539i didnt, but i just got 4th partied, which is one of the shittiest things about the pvp.
>>547149783yeah, that would work. i've been assuming the arcs went rogue because "we built human-killing machines and now they're...le killing us???" is such an obvious twist, but now that i think about it it would be more narratively interesting if the richfags were still around as an antagonist faction (although i guess they could also just introduce new types of arc who speak english along with a borg queen-type leader). excited to see where they take it either way, there may not be a lot of lore so far but i enjoy the bits we have
What's up what all these PvE only niggers lately that have a meltie in voice chat the moment you even aim at another player?
>>547150718Go to SQUADS
>be me>near start>roaming the apartments on buried city looking for toastera>get keel hauled by arc but crawl away>rando out of nowhere defibs me>later same match>loaded for bear with toasters>fucking arc rocketeer motherfucker has taken offense that I am about to become king toast and knocks my ass out meters away from the fan extraction>another bro screams at me to crawl and he holds extraction until I crawl to safetyThanks bros, may your toast always be perfectly toasted
Is Hairpin IV any good?
YES im a free nigger, YES u will loot nothing of me, and YES i have NO gear fear, mad?
>>547151057Next time use a custom kit and stuff the toasters into your ass. It's great that Bros saved you this time, but your anus will never let you down.
>>547151160good for skulking about buried city nighttime and killing all the flamers, ticks and poppers while you loot housesbad for everything else
>>547150718they'll quit the game soon
>YES im a free nigger>i have NO gear fearironic
matriarch reactors, or as I like to call them, fun coupons
i'd be fine with PvP being in this game if they delete freekits and nuked grey guns to shoot marshmellows medium shieldsDying to a fucking ferro is so annoying because they have no skin in the game.
>>547151515How often do people fight for these? Or can I just crawl up to the debris after people kill it, and loot some for myself?
>>547151515Nigga I don't think people care about you third partying PvE players with a Venator as much as you do >>547149405 >>547149309
>>547151576A ferro 1 takes forever to reload how do you die to it especislly if you run medium shields
>>547151394more like i ran out of all my metal scraps
>>547151614he isnt getting that from killing the arc, hes killing the people shooting at it
>>547151687>he thinks you have to shoot the weapon>he also thinks he's blackywnbb
>>547151515>those gunsSo you just killed a bunch of people after they did all the work? Want some kind of medal?
>>547151614>How often do people fight for these?Almost never. Sometimes some retarded rat tries to kill someone during it but usually gets shit on.The people who get the most usually are the ones up close and personal distracting it while it's getting killed.I've also had multiple runs where it gets fully looted and people share their cores/blueprints
>>547151807My question still stands.
>>547151829>he also thinks any kind of pvp is involved.
>>547151160For interior scavenging and dealing with small enemies all the way up to Hornets, yes, it's great.It's all I use for quick material farming runs. Otherwise I go with Kettle and a Silencer II Anvil.
>>547151846It drops bps?
>>547136605Nah dont worry. I did it just for the checklist. It's a good cred gen though selling all those matts.
i spawned in late with freekit and didnt even intend on fighting
>1% of PvP encounters in this game Actually fun battles >99% of PvP in this gameGetting shot in the back and dying before you can even turn around
>Can't walk around the city>Can't trade with players in the city
Where do I find fireballs
>>547152503Stella montis
Jolt Mines nearly trivialize PvP because it lets you get three point blank shotgun blasts in which is more than enough to kill anyone who accidentally sets it off
>>547152202Nice, mine is level 3 and I dont feel like fighting for olives if Im just going to reset anyways.
>>547152503There's one here at the end >>547152327
>>547152567Shoulda defuse it with your impact grenades.
>>547152567If you walk into a giant glowing blue light you deserve the consequences
>>547152638the last couple upgrades are actually kind of trivial, lush blooms is very easy to farm because the baskets spawn mostly on the outskirts of the map and then the pillows / cat beds spawn in apartments which are also on the outskirts of dam.
>>547152503Testing annex on dam too
All my quests disappeared after I did the Leaper one, is this normal?There was a cinematic once I extracted and then it was all gone, pretty sure I still had one other quest to do and I'm only level 42.
>>547152327Wew lad that fuckin delay when you got shot the second time. What a shitshow.
>>547136605IMO it is, but the trick is just to not loot any trees, and just run the baskets on lush bloom events with at least one butt slot. If I knew that in advance, I wouldve been done with the scrappy way sooner...
>when you see a foid alone at night
>Every set has some bright ugly ass colors on it I'll be 70 and video games still won't let you color armor yourself...
>>547152439I know it's great
>>547152947what the fuck is that and why is it so shitty
>>547153059flame spray and its fucking useless, i dont know what its use is supposed to be
>>547152894the quests are shit and there is no fanfair when you finish them all
>>547152968>wanting all black, puke green, and brown tacticool gearYou'll be 70 and still have the aesthetic sense of an edgy teenager.
>>547153275>Wanting choice is bad>Bend over and give us $20 goySlurp slurp slurp
>>547152439>turn aroundA rookie mistake. If you're getting jumped on in this game - you have no chance of fighting back.If you get shot - you drop a smoke nade under your feet and book it. Your would be pursuer would have to holster their weapon or have no chance of catching up to you.
>>547146435>venatornobody brings a venator for Matriarch nigga, he was there to kill, should have connected the dots
>NO YOU HAVE TO DUEL ME HONORABLY AND OUT IN THE OPEN
>>547152503Night raid Dam. Bring some lube!
547153481I can't wait to see your butthurt octaroon tears when they make free kits only capable of getting rattlers.
>>547147103https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_0G6WPuss4
>75% increased bullet velocity on the Kettle IVGot-DAYUM
How do you guys feel about people who 3rd party those that are fighting a boss? Intended part of game? Toxic? Both? It makes me want to not even bother with it.
>>547153682>Can't even attempt to kill them because I don't have BPs and if i get killed them I lose everything
>>547153682I wouldn't hate it as much conceptually if the rewards for fighting the bosses were useful IN PvP. but they aren't. Half of them aren't even that useful against Arc.
>Blue Gate EMSThat must be a complete shitshow lmao I honestly might do a freekit just to see how it goes.
>>547153842What would be good rewards?
>december update drops>they include a balance patch based on gathered data and survey that solves free loadouts, make purples and gold guns useful, grey guns get capped at level 2>new roadmap for 4 more maps on an entirely new map altogether, switzerland as lead to through stella montis, new arcs on it and new difficulties, mountain map, urban map, snow map, forest map
>>547153930its great for arc hunting but there's a lot of vultures if you aren't too careful, end up with bullets in the back
>>547153471he had a ferro out at the time, which seemed normal for day 1, not everyone rocks hullcrackersthen he turned a corner as he was saying yeah haha me too and came right back around and popped me
>>547154128beasted on
>>547153832same
I keep #Nooticing that I only ever get drops worth a damn when I'm running a freekit.>Hundred Kitted runs, even bare min kits and I get fuckall>1 freekit run while I do a quest>Anvil Splitter
I will pay top dollar for just one light bulbI'll trade 2 pink items for itsomebody pls
>>547153161its still pretty strong against leapers
>>547154396yeah, this game seems to run a lot on those covert mechanics where they measure your successes and losses and "user emotion" to then gift or grief you. i dont like that shit.
>>547154464guaranteed spawn in cars around pilgrims peak on blue gate
>>547154527It's all in your head.>karma MMR>K/D MMR>gear MMR>casino MMRNone of this shit exists but your brain tries to invent patterns where there aren't any.
>>547153682The problem with all these games is that IRL killing people has major consequences. Even in this post-apoc hellhole it would be logical that people get to know you, that raiders would find your dead body, and that they would be able to figure out if it was a human or Arc that did it. They would also be able to figure out who did it when the same people are in the same area at the same times. It would also has an impact on relationships and people who were murderers would be quickly kicked out/killed by other survivors. Meanwhile devs refuse to put in any real mechanics or ideas for these games so you go into a boss fight with your anti-PvE gear, just to be murdered by a naked who suffers no risks or consequences. tldr its half baked like the whole game, lacking any content or features to make it fun or interesting beyond a coin flip on whether you live or die to randoms
>>547154078If only.
>>547154690not talking about mmr, im talking about spawns and the like. devs tend to deny these things for obvious reasons but its very easy to implement and this kind of data collection and implementation is extremely useful and you'd be behind the curve if you don't use it in a big product like a videogame. when you play certain games like extraction shooters for 1000s of hours you will notice the cap where your own skill has an input and lots of others will find it aswell, like it JUST SO HAPPENS you get terrible spawns 69% of the time when you do XYZ. the purpose is to balance the dopamine hits just so enough that longterm investment becomes more likely, its not even complicated.
>>547154881idk what any of this is, but I think you should follow your heart, anon
>>547154771I do think it's kind of retarded conceptually that extraction zones - which are CLEARLY monitored by someone who can see you from cameras or some other source considering their dialog - are perfectly okay with letting people in after they just gunned someone down INSIDE the elevator/hatch.Obviously you can't just softlock someone out of being able to exit the map for that though. Would be funny if you get held up at gunpoint after exiting the map and have half your shit taken as recompense or something, lel.
they def need to do something with the basic matsmetal is too valuable and the rest are rarely used
>>547155040NTA but conspiracy theory the post. There isn't anything going on behind the scenes.
>>547155040if there is MMR it doesnt work because i see default skins all the time.
>>547155134Exactly, the whole thing is retarded, and you just know the devs will never add any new features or ideas to this so its always high risk to PvE and low risk to PvP.
>>547155151they simply need a way to economically gain seeds. if you could get feats that double as an impromptu mission of sorts from traders, get x from y map in less than 30m, then you can just buy mats.
>>547154771>>547155134I agree with all this, Especially the part about cameras in the elevators.
>>547155040Considering how unpolished the game is overall, I doubt there anything deep going on behind the scenes, even if it's easy to implement.
>>547154396what items are of crucial worth to you right now or are you just talking about gear in general
>>547155161you're just really naive, drops are most likely rolled when the player opens a container aswell rather than across the map altogether which means a lot, in Hunt:Showdown most of the playerbase agrees that its much more likely to spawn closer and to more teams when you bring in a levelled character (permadeath) but the devs deny it because players would fucking hate reality>>547155295i said this isn't about MMR learn to read
>>547154690Then why the post match surveys?
>>547147197Robots turned Gay and one sells you stuff but most are mean.
>>547146435My bad homie
>>547155151I'm critically low on chemicals due to my adrenaline addiction
>>547155692You're wrong flat earther
>>547156112t. boomer clueless about the modern world and 80 years+ of marketing psychology history
>>547156231You're wrong flat earther
>>547154771The quests where a tube gang is mentioned or the Gun dealer ones about a booby trapped cache indicates that the raiders are violents and anything goes topside. But it's just some barebone lore bits with no consequences or game mechanics behind them.>>547155134Shani watches but doesn't give two fucks about mass murderers going back to Speranza.>>547155774Honestly the surveys are probably empty : a player who died will tend to rate the round low, one who extracted will be happier, it doesn't tell much unless it's properly sorted out and presented in reunions where the goal is to improve the game. That's a lot of steps for a vague feedback.
>>547139032there is a bp
Will we lose access to the Raider deck? I noticed that it says 001 so I assume more will come, is it like Helldivers where you can always go back and do it or will they FOMO this stuff?
my fps differs by maybe 5 between everything low no AA and everything cranked up with DLAA Is this just my CPU bottlenecking? I have a weak cpu but I've never seen something like this where graphics settings don't affect fps at all
>>547156513>booby trapped cache indicates that the raiders are violents and anything goes topside.They call them bandits, not raiders. So there is clearly a distinction between those who cooperate and those who are violent. And you specifically do missions to stop bandits.
>>547156547I have 35h in game time, you can do it. We have no clue afaik otherwise.
>>547156564No its just modern game design, graphics options are basically a joke now.
>>547156547Do you mean will this current raider deck go away and be replaced by a new one, making you unable to go back and purchase anything you didn't get in time?They're definitely going to introduce a new deck, I don't think they're going to let you go back though.
>>547156564I'm at 1080p, running all ultra presets, and I had to cap my fps at 120, so it wouldn't overheat my GPU for no good reason (although my monitor is an old 60 fps one). The game doesn't seem to be graphically intensive at all. The lighting engine is just very good, and good lighting works wonders for making a game look pretty. Those former DICE devs didn't lose their touch.
Alright, I've enhanced my door blocker technique. Here's the guide for anybody that wants to have some fun.>collect a bunch of those red, deployable synthesized fuel drums pre-game, or find them in the wild (certain spots almost always have them). You only need two per plan execution>bring a door blocker>find a small room with a single door-blockable door and no other exits (closer to a loot spot, the better)>deploy synthesized fuel drum inside the room, close to the doorway>leave the room, deploy door blocker on outside of door>wait until another player shows up>act friendly and laugh about how you managed to lock another raider inside the room with a door blocker>either convince the player to 1) help you kill the "trapped raider" or 2) allow them to "convince you" to free them, depending on your victim's morality>either scenario results in the player opening the door and entering the room>shoot one of the fuel canisters to trigger a one-shot explosive trap at their feetFuel canisters work best I've found because they don't make any noise. Players are more likely to rush into a room when they don't hear traps on the other side of the door.
Is random squad easier than solo
>>547157572for what? most of it is kos freenigging and a lot of foreign friends speaking subhuman tongues the whole time while you're the 3rd wheel, are you up for doing a random quest with your level 4 guns in the middle of a night raid on spaceport while 2 shitskins are rambling in some unknown latin-zimbabwean dialect?
blaze grenade bp, and il torro looking to trade
>>547152894>>547153196Okay, there's only 66 quests in the game currently and I've done them all apparently.I can't PvE in peace and PvP is only increasing which I have no interest in, I guess that's it for me until the next update.
>>547157572Nah it's insufferable. I did it for a while and I only ever managed to get one group of chill dudes and we saw success through a few games, then I never saw them again and kept matching with ESLs even though I'm no crossplay NA. It's probably easier for Trials but I'm never gonna even try to find out.
What's with the one destroyed satellite thing in Blue Gate that you can shove arc cores into to activate it's thrusters?
>>547157159Devilish, but it seem like a lot of work.
>>547157572it's fine, but rng is a bitchsometimes you may get actual humans, sometimes you mean get two freekitters with ttv at the end of their names and full open mic
This game needs some sort of phoenix kit like mechanic for solos. Friedslop faggots can revive each other as many times as they want, but when you're playing solo getting grazed by a stray rocket can mean losing everything. Green kits and above should be able revive themselves once after being downed. Maybe more at higher rarities. It won't save you from being knocked out after being downed, but in a FFA gunfight, or after being downed by ARC, you could try to slip away in the commotion and get another chance.
I don't have a mic
>>547158402If you climb up inside, and dodge the flames, there is one lame breachable container that will contain fuckall.
>>547158793keep everything as is, instead make a new augment>1 x weapon>14 x inventory>4 x quick use>no safe pocket>specialty has a single-use locked defib with only one use per round>using defib lessens durabilitynow you can simply run solo self revive or not
>>547158793Use a rare loadout and play it smart, it brings hp back up if you stop moving, just crawl your way out nigga. Fucking phoenix down anime dweeb headass get the fuck outta here.
>>547158793There is a purple augment that heals you when you're downed. You can potentially crawl and extract with it if no players stop you.
>>547159127forgot to mention this defib can only be used on yourself
>>547159127>No safe pocketNiggerlicious design right there.
>finally got my level 3 gunsmith>finally can make a Renegade every single matchthe slaughter begins
>>547159236a decent tradeoff, huge limitation but a self revive can make a huge difference.
>>547156513>Honestly the surveys are probably empty : a player who died will tend to rate the round low, one who extracted will be happier, it doesn't tell much unless it's properly sorted out and presented in reunions where the goal is to improve the game. That's a lot of steps for a vague feedback.smetimes it'll ask me how i enjoyed "the pvp experience" after a solo match where i encountered zero other players
>>547159040Oh that sucks
>>547152947Thanks for confirming I should never use thisBut why are you posting footage of NYC subway?
Am I a noob or is the Rattler just not good? Level 1-2 is straight up not worth using at all. 3+ needs mods for it to be viable. It's ok at tap firing at range. Anything else it just kind of blows or is beaten out by the other weapons. Long range? Farro. Short? Spammable SMGs, really great pistols, or a shotgun. What does it do well at all really? Seems like a "trap" weapon where all of your upgrades are better spent elsewhere and any items/money invested is also better elsewhere.
Is this weapon good or what
>>547159896its a bad gun
>>547156678Na if its fomo ill quit >>547156828>They're definitely going to introduce a new deck, I don't think they're going to let you go back though.That would be an unfortunate choice
>>547159896Either it needs to be cheaper to make/upgrade, the mag size needs to increase, or the damage needs to be upped so that the kettle doesn't outperform it per-shot.In the current state of the game, it's just not good.
>>547158793I really think so too. It's far too punishing for solo. I shouldn't have to rely on a stranger having a defib when I myself have one.
>>547159896It's more that the other greys are hilariously overtuned.
>>547159896it allows you to use only one gun to minimize weight, it's like halfway between a ferro and stitcher but yeah it's not great that's the tradeoff you get for being okay at everything
>>547160520>It's more that the other greys are hilariously overtuned.thus>>547160481no more buffs. the good weapons can already kill you in 1 second. the rattler doesnt need to do the same either. its the other weapons that need to be nerfed.
>>547158793I don't think death should be a thing imo. When you get downed you can crawl, any player can loot you, after a while you can get back up. That gives players more chances to keep playing and interacting.
>>547159328No pocket should only be reserved for freeniggers only, not a supposed pink augment.
>blue gate matriarch>not looking so good>hardly anyone actively fighting it>get trapped in the under area with leaper>two guys fall>free loot
>>547152968>everynot reallyif you want maximum control over practically every aspect of armor customzation including the fucking material/texture, Warframe blows everything else out of the waterof course then you have to play Warframe so...
>>547156547They said some are permanent, some will be timed, some are free, some are paid. This one is 100% permanent.
>rarely do night map>go spaceport night raid>looking for wolfpack BP at departures>hear someone>they're skulking around the same floor looting shit>hide behind a fucking divider>they're oblivious>rush them with my stitcher 4Nothing personnel kid, i just don't trust people when it's dark. Thanks for the renegade, i've added it to my stash.
>Blue Gate MatriarchPerfect time to go hunt for that police car
>>547160192Weaker than Kettle, Stitcher etc. obviously. Do not redeem.
>>547160679nah the entire point of downing players is removing them from the equation - whether that's competing for loot or wiping out some rat faggot camping an exit, or just wanting to bask alone as the sole living player on a mapif they can simply get back up, PVP becomes entirely irrelevant
Where can I get magnetic accelerators? Can I trade some one here some wolfpacks for em or something?
>>547160679How exactly are you supposed to interact with no backpack or gun or anything. I agree it would be nice to have the option though to maybe stabilize someone and knockthem out instead of fully killing them. Like give them a 5 minute nap while you loot a place and skedaddle but dont have to take their shit.
Anything new tomorrow? Skins, updates...?
Every time I've opened a loot vault with a key I've only gotten garbage loot and like 1 mid or high tier item.Doesn't feel like it's worth the trouble.
>>547161527Found mine in the high value tech area on dam>>547161608What's a loot vault? The locked rooms have been good to me
>>547161527Stella.
>>547161668Yeah I mean a locked room.To be fair I've only opened like 3 or 4 but never gotten any good loot as far as I can remember.
>>547158793self-defibbing is the obvious solution that doesn't require reworking any fundamental mechanics. fixes the problem of defibs being largely irrelevant in solo because it's not worth bringing one along just in case you happen to team up with a random and the random happens to gets downed
Town Hall in Buried City is the scariest locked room I've gone into so far. You're right next to the park where there's a big ARC sometimes and also where people (used to, at least in the first days of the game) farm lemons and apricots. There's a bunch of rooms to loot then you gotta jump out the window and sprint to the hatch.
>>547162093Buried City spawn camper and rat city, we (I) don't go there.
>>547161528Anon... there is no such thing as no backpack >>547161292nah the point is human interaction, promoting it makes the game better, if this was nothing but KOS no one would play it, its the communication and trust that makes it fun
>>547161608do them during special map events like night raid or thunderstorm for best resultsotherwise its just "better" normal loot
>take large amount of hullcracker ammo for trial>blue gate>we get stuck in the ring building>second bastion spawnits just a bad building to hole up in
>>547162338they can take your looting pack which halves it
>>547162338the other anon obviously meant "no augment" and there absolutely is such a thingit's legitimately better than using the free kit since you get an ass pouch
>>547162620Which isn't the same as having no bag
>>547162627He didn't
>>547162338murder is a human interaction. if you're a rat faggot who backstabs me i want to eliminate you from the round not give you a chance to get back on your feet. i like the idea of a non-lethal knockout as an optional mechanic but removing death entirely is retarded
>>547162093buried city in general is anxiety long sightlines up top, close range fights with deadly boomers and then the extract that cant even be cleared because there's two sides of it blocked off by the gateHonestly one of the best map designs I've ever seen in gaming it's amazing
>>547162840No it makes perfect sense, especially since most people are playing for objectives on the map so it gives them a chance to finish those quests and objectives instead of being wiped out
Found a light bulb, what's so special about these?
>>547162887The map design is great but I still hate playing there because the loot spawns fucking suck; you can comb an entire apartment building from basement to roof and find about three things total. Meanwhile the Dam apartments shower you with loot despite not even being marked as a loot hotspot.
>>547161292>entire point of downing players is removing them from the equation*your point99% of killing is done for loot or being a dick not for removing threats. Non-lethal just leaves the dicks and there is nothing that can be done about that except a Karma system.
>>547163147You need 5 for the expedition project, that's it.
>>547163162Thats because the loot is all in 'special' rooms which youtubers have now minmaxed and people clear them out instantly. Its the easiest map in the game to make +100-150K a round.
>>547163147You need 5 for the third step of Expedition.
>>547163162agreed, residentials are like the worst possible places to loot the places are so sparse and idk why. They should all have at least one locker in every individual living area
>>547162986why do you deserve to finish every quest and objective on your first attempt? if you die, oh well, queue up and try again
got my expedition and benches done, now im bored with the game
>>547163162I'm starting to think loot Hotspots are just indicative of the presence of locked rooms
>>547163285>>547163396oh okay
>finish expedition>uhh what am i going to do now>literally the first raid i jump in has the funnest utility bp dropShiieeeeet it's like the game knows.
>>547163286>Thats because the loot is all in 'special' rooms Yeah, but that's still a problem with the map. There's no reason for the apartments to be as barren as they are, especially since the Dam apartments also exist and are much better.
It is unacceptable that there is no button for "craft need resources" when you have it all.For example making metal components for weapons upgrades.
>>547155659No i just notice that I get more "rare" itemsIve gotten most of my BPs while freekitting
>>547163473>deserveOh you're one of 'those' people
I'm going on my villain arcShoot on sight is fun.So many Dads crying when I kill them
>>547164163im not a hardcore pvper i just dont see why you think a game based around short rounds needs to ensure everything can be done in a single round. i mean your whole idea is>instead of dying you should wake up with no augment or weapons or lootwhich is literally a worse situation than simply queueing up again with a free loadout
>>547164536Yeah, nah.
>>547164635i was trying to understand your argument but if you don't actually have one that's okay too
>>547164875You're shitposting, stop shitting up the thread.
>first pve rat of the day i kill has a gun parts bpthanks free kit stitchy. very cool.
getting closer to 1,000,000 coins, I should have it by tomorrow.
>>547161527Tech areas have them. If you play on the new map you can't move 5 feet without finding one of them or exodus modules.
>>547160965>if you want maximum control over practically every aspect of armor customzation including the fucking material/textureWe had this in video games 10 years ago, the only reason they didn't do it here is because skins sell for more and they knew their player base are sheep.
>>547161860If you aren't playing a night raid locked rooms aren't really worth it. Often camped and the loot is mid.
please fix the mouse accel issue
>>547165649>loot is mid.This sums up the entire game.
and give me number hotkeys on PC
>>547158793Fuck no retard. If you get downed then you should be fucked without another players intervention. Don't want to be fucked? Then play more carefully. Use traps, walk everywhere instead of sprinting, check your surroundings and for any followers regularly.
>>547165670kill acceleration in the controller settings sectionyes, it seems to affect the mouse for some reason
>>547165970it doesnt fix it completely
lemons where the fuck are they?none of this >oh go to here in africa on the 10th solar eclipsetype shit
>>547166205blue gate olive grove
>>547166205Go to any map during lush blooms and look for the wicker baskets.
>>547166402wherewhere are the tiny fuckin wicker baskets near?
>>547166205>struggling with lemonsEnjoy mushrooms and olives dork hahahahahaha
>Night raids + keys + minmaxed routes + locked doors + escape hatches for hours to get tier 3 gear, unique weapons (fully upgraded and modified) + zip + grenades while dealing with endless free kit, mine spamming, corner camping players >Take your perfect minmax build into a boss fight, theultimate content in the game >Either get shot on sight by someone with grey gear or a lobby full of ferros kill the boss anyway (you saved a whopping 1 minute bringing your full kit on its kill time) I've said it once and I'll say it again extraction shooters are retarded and this should have been a Monster Hunter PvE game like they originally designed. The whole premise of this game is stupid and makes no sense, you might as well just go in and shoot everyone and everything with free stuff because its exactly the same as grinding out all the top tier stuff. At best they can salvage this game by putting in a PvE boss fight mode, with far more enemy spawns, so there is actually a reason to bring this stuff.
>>547166527I think I've spent like 5 hours finding mushrooms and I started with 6 from a lush blooms event where I found them in the basket instead of free spawn. What the fuck were they thinking fungi are THE most common life form in the world I believe
>>547166553Idk man they made a ton of money I think they made the right choice
Is Security Breach alright despite the nerf? Or is that point better spent somewhere else?
>>547166878So did Asbestos
>>547166878>Idk man they made a ton of moneyThe marketing on Arc is surreal Nexon spent millions paying every streamer ever to play this game.
>>547166972And it was all for nothing as Peanut has been glazing this game for free for a year and has blown up in the last few months due to meme clips on tiktok. Millions down the drain paying people like stroud and ninja just for them to get mogged by a memetuber.
>>547167179It would have been worth it you need critical mass for marketing to work
>>547166904I dont think arc raiders is going to kill you IRL, if you get so mad your heart is dying then just stop playing lmao
>>547160481Other greys/greens need to become more like the rattler, leave high usability for high tier weapons so they actually have a use.Also it's more fun fighting a guy with weak gear as you weave in a fight than just getting 4-tapped by a fucking venator.
>>547166886It's still one of the only ways you can find gucci gear in round, it's just not as good as it was. That gucci gear isn't that great is a separate issue. I just got a venny and a torrente from my last two security lockers during daytime raid but this isn't the norm at all anymore.
>Perfectly fine ~25 minuted raid with some decent loot>Two wasps at exfil, kill them>Rocketeer aggro'd me from 150 fucking feet away, couldnt even hear the indicator>Doesn't miss a single rocket while im dodge rolling to cover and lose all my shitHonestly a gayer experience than getting ratted
>>547166553>so there is actually a reason to bring this stuff.There is always a reason. Farming the beefy ARCs for trial points is not something you can do with free kit. I mean technically you can kill a leaper with a ferro 1 but you're just gonna get ratted. The only viable way to get a double promo is by bringing some form of risky kit.
reached level 75
reached into my own anus and rubbed my prostate through my colon until i came
>>547166514They are everywhere
>>547163482Just wait for the event and snow next month I guess.
never seen two matriarch events at once before
one of them is a harvester
I wish there was text identifying the loot in the menus. It all looks the same to me.
every person that kills me in a rat way is an xbox player
Pretty sure I just died to a hacker in solo queueSaw two raider flares within the first minute of the game but didnt think much of it because a rocketeer was shooting. Then 10 seconds later I was the one being beamed with perfect accuracy from a retard just standing in the open 100m away with the arpeggio landing every single bullet in the burst, used stimpacks and ran through brush with heals and he just effortlessly hunted me down and never missed. Faggot!
>>547169225My games have improved enormously since I turned off crossplay. Might turn it back on to do PVP but almost everyone I've met since has been cool
>>547168597Queen and Matriarch.
>>547169474im an xbox player with a mic
Anyone got an image or something that just kinda sorts out what to keep and what to scrap? my stash is getting fucking full and I can't afford any more upgrades atm and I dunno what might be useful later
People that do unprovoked pvp should be match makes with others that do unprovoked pvp. Reputation system is easy fix to all issues
>>547169474i turned it back on when i finished everything and intend to kill most players, trying to catch as many consolecucks as possible
>>547170504>people complain about betrayals>people complain about being shot from the get go>plays a PVPve game really makes you fucking think
>>547170707>KOS player recoils and shrieks at the prospect of being matched with other KOS players
>>547170932I don't give a fuck who I'm matched with you fucking faggot you're the one crying LOL
>>547170504you can't measure or make that workfor example literally me just now>go into loot zone with intention of using a key in solo>about to go inside, hear shooting and a flare pop off>i lurk around for a while and eventually go inside, don't find anyone but loot a bunch of stuff>i'm near an entrance and hear somebody run around, gun him down as he comes in>does all the whining blabla, freekit stitcher 1 who obviously spawned in lateshould i have just risked having him around and shoot me in the back for all my shit for no reason, especially knowing there was a killer just there?
>>547170504You're literally supposed to be killing other players you moron, it's part of the game.
>>547171062Yes retard. You have no way of knowing he was hostile because you didn't even TRY to talk.
Griefer ban wave soon
>>547171219this is an insane mindset, i had every reason to not give him the benefit of the doubt. you probably vote for open borders policies aswell. perhaps if i'm so cucked i should carry defibs and try and gauge whether he is actually innocent from his voice to decide whether to defib him or not, but then again many of the players who get resed in this situation stab you in the back out of prideful revenge. the weak must fear the strong.
>>547171209>>547170707Both can be true. You're right its a PvP game and hes right that he doesn't want to PvP and just wants to PvE.
>>547171062I dont kill anyone at extracts or in transit but in loot zones? Yeah if I feel spooked I'm shooting first. There's no way to get out
>>547171334And to everyone who accessed a loot room without using a key.
>freekits only get rattler>monkey paw curls>rattler gets a damage buff, accuracy buff and ammo capacity buff, deploys at tier 3
>Guy ambushes me in treatment plant>Kill him>Lawman runs over thinking he's going to be a hero and shoots me>Kill him too
tranime faggothttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/OPcR4GowgBI9ddG-UXnwgw/
>>547171712He can pve all he wants but that's not what the game is. I don't cry when I see roaming gangs of carebear pve players that are impossible to kill. What he's doing is like if I were to claim teaming up in solos should be bannable.
>>547171865Explain the free kit hate, because it makes no sense to me. If they delete it tomorrow, everyone will just use cheap kits instead (you can buy/craft 50 kits after an hour of play time) which come with a safe pocket which is even worse.
>>547171939>I don't cryYou're crying right now. You're crying that someone who wants more PvE is crying that he doesn't want to PvP. You're identical.
>>547172057>anon thinks criticising someone's childish behaviour is crying
I want a three seater car and a big empty desert map to go all road warrior in. Giant enemy ARC balls like pops and fireballs to fight in the dunes
>>547171979>If they delete it tomorrow, everyone will just use cheap kits insteadFine by me, if people stake something even minimal it will radically change the way they play
>>547172230Worm arc that tunnels through the sand like DUNE
>>547171979its all psychological. even if grey guns are cheap and the shields too, having to have SOME skin in your loadout will stop people from mindlessly slamming them like freekits. am i saying rats will 100% stop, no. but even if it stops 5% of the rats because now they have to go through the menus make a gun, hold E five times before they can deploy again, that will be good.of course the bigger problem with them is that their damage and TTK is too high relative to their rarity. thats the biggest issue. another big issue being spawns too.
>>547172276Dude there is literally no stake it just takes too much time to make a kit that's why most people do it. You get FREE SHIT FOR DYING and can craft up to level 3 guns with the materialsIf you want people to stop free kitting then ask the retarded subhuman monkey devs to make a kit pre-set so you dont have to spend 2 minutes grabbing your dinguses and bonguses every single raid. Clicking free kit is just easy and not having the free slot is exciting too.
I just want to do Harvester as many times as possible
>>547171979Free kitters play like they have nothing to lose and come in droves. Killing them nets you nothing yet they're easily capable of killing someone kitted out if they get the first shot advantage. On maps like Stella Montis you can be swarmed by 4-5 free kits if a fight breaks out and you're basically fucked either way. A free kit can ruin a matriarch fight lobby no issue, and this issue will become more pronounced as people run out of things to do. Yes they could bring a cheapo loadout and it would be better since they'd have a free pocket, but psychologically they'd feel protective of their gear and be less likely to commit to suicidal PvP. Free kitters do not need to play the loot game and free kits are so forgiving you could play nothing but them, still progressing through quests and expeditions no problem. Zero commitment to loot should not be a viable main playstyle in an extraction shooter. They are essentially playing a battle royale instead.
>>547170504>unprovoked pvpthe game literally starts the tutorial off with you getting shot in the back.the tutorial. and what's more, its done in a way you could not have prevented it.
>>547172406see>>547172556Wasting people's time cause youre mad about dying to grey shitters is not an incentive or good for the game
>>547171979free kit is the true roguelite experience
>>547172186You're doing it again
>>547172276>>547172406>>547172662So in summary, because you're triggered by the idea of it being "free" even though there is also multiple ways to get free kits. Like I thought, this is a non-issue.
we need a grey and green shotgun wtf
>>547172904Quit crying that I'm criticising people, omfg just stop crying about this thing I...er...That guy doesn't like!!
the bobcat kinda sucks without a good extended mag
>>547173023You can't pretend to have a valid point when you call others childish while being childish yourself. Calm down and have a break.
This discussion makes me laugh and for the rest of the night im KoSing pvebabs with a freekit
>>547173118You're doing it again
>>547170504They probably are, either way you just ban them after each match then you can't get put with them again.
>>547173286*blasts your face with a free stitcher 1*
another round of kill 9 freekits with an expensive kit so the 10th gets your worn out corpse
>>547173360>BansYou get 1 kill, enjoy it
nigga like me need a ton of mushrooms and a couple pillows chat are we cooked?
>>547172983>akshually any criticism mean you're triggeredok nigger
Free loadouts shouldn't be removed, but they should be downgraded from "viable as fuck" to "desperation option". When I first played the tutorial with that pile of shit gun, I thought "oh damn I'm gonna progress from this crap to some good shit". 25 hours later and I've got several green and blue guns I'm probably just going to recycle like I did with the Bettina, because most of them suck ass and I like the Kettle and Ferro too much, and even without upgrades it has been all I've needed. Besides my general enjoyment of using the Anvil.I really don't think I should prefer using them. I'm looting to upgrade my benches, but the desire to reach higher tier'd gear or fight higher tier Arc doesn't exist at all.
>>547173481I asked and read your replies I am not convinced you're being anything but emotional about it. Logically there is no difference between free kits existing and not and nor is there any impact on how people play or interact.
>>547172983I understand where there is valid frustration. One freekit is not a problem. Five or six of them bum rushing you is. It's very frustrating to be drained of your own resources by people risking nothing so you can't replenish what you've used dealing with them. Armchair dev solution I'd limit freekit to the first couple maps or something. Would solve the entire issue and let freekits be what they are meant to be, a free way to get in and find a serviceable starter kit
>>547172662Nailed it
>the level 4 tempest fears the level 1 kettle
Free kits can't use safe pockets which is the biggest imbalance imaginable. Once people realise that naked kits + cheap gun > free kits, its all over.
>>547173595>akshually if you think extract shooters should be about risking your gear you're emotionalok nigger
>>547173770Again there is no risk difference between free kits and minimum kits
>take container key to night spaceport>as I'm running down the road a freekit faggot jumps me and empties his stitcher i mag, leaving me with a broken shield at 90% health>turn around and rip his ass apart with fully modded stitcher ivfucking cockroachesgot another stupid torrente blueprint and another keycard from the place at least
>>547172662just teamed up with another BIG MONEY KING and we fought off what felt like the whole server. he eventually went down and i ran out of bandages trying to get him to extract/find a defibhe lost a tempest 3 and epic augment, etc
>try to play solo>everyone is a scared faggot>DON'T SHOOT DON'T SHOOT>see large groups of players walking around together>finally spot a player alone>shoot him>he starts crying about having nothing>doesn't even shoot back>he just stands there>leave him alone>just extract without having fun>try to do a solo night raid>same storyFUCK YOU GUYS!!!YOU HAVE RUINED THE GAME!!!
I hate pvp but this game looks good, it seems the devs are taking surveys from the playerbase. I need real-unfiltered takes from people not afraid of calling me a nigger-faggot. What are the odds this game gets a PvE mode?
Embark kind of has the wolf by the wars with this free kit dilemma. They might be worried about losing players. Dont they care if people play this like cod so long as theyre spending money. They need to make a decision sooner rather than later.
>>547173821If that was true people would never do freekits because budgets kits have safe pockets and inventory slotsBut they dont
>>547173936people take it too seriouslya good funny voice can do the trick, with no ai of course
>>547173998People are lazy and the game is new such information takes time to process for masses. This is your last reply you're just being a woman.
>>547173595>Logically there is no difference between free kits existing and notThere literally is you dumb nig.If you're dogshit at the game and die 100 times, you have to bite the bullet and go in naked and scavenge like a mouse. Except, the game will be nice to you so you don't have to do that bullshit, and gives you a basic loadout.Great. But now, instead of having to play very carefully, I can run into a raid 100x with no fear of dying because I can play like dogshit and go back to Speranza and get another freekit. So why would I bother doing anything but playing like a total maniac since I can ambush somebody, steal all their shit, and walk out with 10x the value?Having no cooldown freekit literally incentivizes you to PvP. If freekit didn't exist, the vast majority of KOS'ers would not be so willing to get into fights.
>>547172680>Wasting people's timeThats funny because the way the gear is set up, youre wasting time bringing anything but the cheapest shit. Why waste time finding all the "good" gear when the grey cheap gear is just as good without needing to endlessly spam keys and night raids to find BPs or higher tier guns? Its a waste of time to even care about higher tier loot not named the venator because its all garbage.
>>547173975lol
>>547173975I think it'll probably happen but not anytime soon
>>547173821Not him crafting is the incentive. Even with how cheap they are, having to craft them (even if they ADD A FUCKING LOADOUT AUTOCRAFT/BUY TEMPLATE THAT SHOULD BE IN THE GAME ALREADY WHAT THE FUCK???) means using resources. At the rate they'd just jump into a match without a care in the world, they'd drain their shit fast. It would slow down the rate of freeloaders, make them start playing smarter. Every little bit helps.But as I said here >>547173534 I don't want free loadouts removed (and absolutely not without the loadout option above). I just think they should be relegated to either the Rattler, or every v1 grey weapon should be turned into Rattler-tier garbage that only reaches their normal states at v3.But seriously, the fact that this game doesn't have autocraft/buy loadout options is fucking silly.
>>547173821it's a million clicks, and you can still run out of bandages and ammo or spend lots of COINS
free kits are not an issueYOU CAN USE BETTER GEAR to destroy free kit shittersPvE trannies will always complain about something stupid
>>547173975the game wasnt meant to be this popular and its not been out for a month yet, nobody knows whats in store yet.
>>547174368you're a fucking noob
>>547174162>People are lazyLazy about what? I tought freekits and cheap kits were the same? >This is your last reply you're just being a woman.No that would be called arguing sir, try it one day instead of calling people emotional and women
>>547174253Better gear is a huge advantage it's just not a free I win button. Free kits only hope is hiding in a corner and shooting you in the back unless you have cerebral palsy
>>547173458Cry harder kekypow they need to add visible nametags so i can find you and kill you on sight all day
>>547174368gear doesnt matter against rat gameplay because the first shot is basically everything in the current pvp balance, play some solo and you will find out the problem
>>547174187>If freekit didn't exist, the vast majority of KOS'ers would not be so willing to get into fights.True. Cooperation implies people have something to lose or there is a greater threat. Freeniggers break both of those rules.
>>547174474>Better gear is a huge advantagenot in this game
tradingideally would like to get ahold of a Looting Mk3 Survivor bp for the silencer ii
>>547174474>Better gear is a huge advantageIt's like 2 more shots tanked
>>547174187You made up a fake situation to pretend like you have an argument, try again.
>YOU CAN USE BETTER GEARyea i might only kill a few players (at no risk of my own gear) vs. 5+ before the guys spawning in and sprinting at me get me gets dozens of rare mats
>>547174478>He doesn't knowAssuming you kill me, I just block you afterwards. You can't be matched with people who you've blocked. Like I said, enjoy that 1 kill.
>>547174368>good gear>0.2s TTK advantage for 10 times the priceniggerYour statement is only true in squads because of utility spam, good gear means jack fucking shit in solos because of first shot advantage.
you can't do shit with free kits>minimum ammo>minimum recover itemsyou trolls are acting like a free kit user can wipe an entire lobby
>>547174669>You made up a fake situationYou should play stella montis one day
>>547174368>equip purple shield>can survive 2-3 more bullets than green shield>free kit with a level 1 stitcher which does the same damage as a level 4 stitcher and out DPSes the purple SMG can gun me down with a full mag if he catches me from behind>endgame content involves fighting giant loud bosses with expensive specialized gear that's not great at dealing with players and leaves you distractedGee I wonder if there's a balance problem hidden here.
>>547174669>A fake situation.Shut up nigger. You can't even provide an argument because you're so fucking stupid and know you're wrong.There's a reason Tarkov has a cool down on its Scav timer because otherwise you'd just spam Scav until you got Mosin and one tap some fucker wearing 2mil worth of gear
>>547174474>Better gear is a huge advantageIt is not. The weapons and shields have minimal bonuses over the grey weapons, add in the fact that theyre cheap, its a no brainer to bring grey gear. The only good gear are the augments but thats because of the extra pocket and loot space. Purple and blue shields are literally a couple more stitcher bullets. Stitcher is better than the bobcat, a purple gun, for the mere fact it has near the same killing capability for such a cheap cost. The higher tier guns absolutely should be much better considering the cost it is to find and maintain them. Otherwise you're wasting your time and should roll with the cheap shit.
>>547174781This has and will always be about the fact that someone went in with gear, and got outplayed.Whenever you see anything about hating free kits just tell them to get good.
>>547174669>faggot with less than 25 games never stepped foot on stella montisngmi
>>547174842>Makes up a fake situation and now resorting to emotional outburstsCalm down Karen
>>547174757All I think of looking at this picture is one of those scenes in the old Scooby-Doo show where they'd run through a series of doors getting chased by the monster of the episode.
>>547174909I have played Stella many times. No one is dying 100 times and attempting to base an argument on such an idea is childish.
>>547174845>>547174665A couple more bullets tanked when the free kit cant even kill you in one mag of all torso hits lol. Plus they dont have vita or instant shield rechargers or the smoke grenade alterations or good nades.. Learn to play
>>547174910>Look at me everyone I'm retarded everyone look at me!No difference between pretending and being an actual retard, retarded nigger
>>547175003Yeah just ignore the 20+ bodies in medical sector more than half of which are freeniggers.
>the three shitters on /arg/ upset about free kits get their ultimate wish: free kits are deleted from the game>player goes on 1 run>gets 50-100k looting because its piss easy to make money >sells it>now has 20 free kits You people are moronic reply if you're mad that you got outplayed by people with worse gear than you.
>>547175004>A couple more bullets tanked when the free kit cant even kill you in one magAre you stupid? Of course they can>Plus they dont have vita or instant shield rechargersSo do most people without freekits lmao, 99% of the playerbase use white/green bandage and green rechargersDo you even play this game?
>>547175109its not free if you're buying it retard do you know the definition of free?
I've been looking for info about what items are better to sell instead of recyclying but I'm only finding uncomplete chartshelp pls
>>547175109If it's so easy and irrelevant why are people so against removing free loadouts? Are they stupid?
>>547175109You are fucking retarded lmfao.>Only reply if...Literally 'ur gay' tier
>>547174187okay but even if you get rid of freekits it doesn't change anything because literally anyone can make a freekit equivalent for practically nothing. if you've played more then 3 rounds you have the resources to craft a ferro, light shield, bandages, and a couple grenades. there's still no risk because it's fucking trivial to come up with 7 metal parts; freekits only benefit newfags and people who are so shit they don't have 7 metal parts and neither are a real threat to anyone competent. you think you want freekits gone but you actually want them to rebalance the entire loot economy to be more LE HARDCORE
>>547175004>A couple more bullets tanked when the free kit cant even kill you in one mag of all torso hits lol.The TTK between a bobcat and a kettle is like a .30 second difference. You absolute retard.
>>547175096>Console player You deserve what you get lmao
>>547175342>>547175325>>547175194>Got all three of them to rage at facts KEK
>>547175389Look who's making ship up now, eh?
>>547174978it was actually a little like that
>Three replies instantlyIt really is just 3 shitters in this thread getting mad
>>547175109Your reasoning is ass backwards, but even assuming someone has this fanciful 100k loot run and decides to spend the next 5 rounds murdering people, that was still one less round of a faggot KOSingSo thanks for helping the argument dumbfuck
>>547175450
>>547175470>Console player You brought this on yourself poorfag
>>547175224it just takes time. it also depends on what you want to bring into runs
>>547175550>I dont like this logic so its a lie!Nope. Between how easy it is to get money, items and the chicken free kits and making cheap kits is identical. What you fags want is gear that is OP at higher tiers, go back to Tarkov.
Is the torrente better than a rattler
>>547175358you can't buy metal/plastic/etc unless with seeds, you have to specifically loot for parts to craft guns, and there are timers on the shop guns, realistically you can only create more like 4-5 cheapo kits in 1 successful average run and not everyone extracts 100% of the time, this changes the whole loop of having to loot to make kits to pvp and making people think twice about running around aimlessly killing on sight, besides the fact that are forced to NOT do so once in a while.getting rid of free loadouts would cut this shit down so much.
>>547175109>Player goes on 1 run>Gets 50-100k lootingYou don't play the game lmao.
>>547175709Yeah at close range atleast
>>547175552what if instead of urine it's ejaculate and he had an erection earlier
>>547175358>you think you want freekits gone but you actually want them to rebalance the entire loot economy to be more LE HARDCOREYes, PvP loot progression is garbage outside of nade spam in trios.
>>547175731https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Nf_ufjjpU
>stella montis>draw bridge near control room>lost and going around in circles on it>some guy climbs the ladder as I have my torrent already drawn>hit him with a DONT SHOOT>too late>he panics>goes over the side to hit the ground>flare goes up>he gives up immediately>my fucking sides when I caused an accidental deathNothing but green junk on him but man that was funny.
how many wolfpacks do i need to solo a Queen, just got the BP
>>547175109>>547175450>>547175539>>547175693Who is this same fagging indian and why is he suddenly defending acting like a nigger so vehemently
>>547175761Your pickaxe is better than a rattler at close range.
wheres all the mushrooms at boys? i only know of a spaceport spot
>>547175717spawn naked in solo dam, grab whatever you see until you're full, beeline to extraction. you will survive 99% of the time doing this and you will come out with more than enough resources to make as many freekit equivalents as you need
The reason I want free kits gone is that if I grind for good gear I want to be able to stomp other players. I was bullied as a child and now I am insecure and need a power advantage to bully others.
>>547175865its the resident 16 year old from reddit who somehow found this placehes also the one who watches and argues over streamers
>>547175915>I was bullied as a child and now I am insecure and need a power advantage to bully others.You're in luck, you can play a free kit right now to spoil the fun of those who are actually trying to play the game.
>>547175865I'm pointing out that whether there are free kits or not will change literally nothing because the game showers you in loot, cash, guns and gear while also having no difference between greys and legendaries. The fact you're too stupid to understand that isn't my problem my little ESL friend.
>>547165969We're on week 2 of this game being out why are we still pretending that "playing safe" doesn't actually do anything when the only realize you live from match to match is if the 4 or so players you were completely unaware of resist the urge to shoot you in the back of the head?
Hell yeah motherfucker looks like there's a new big dog topside
>>547175828>everyone is in their own instance of the world doing the optimized runs with no competitionThanks for making the argument for me.
>>547175885https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R24BWI84cXs
>>547175891>unprovable magical hypothetical means your argument is invalidyou have to specifically loot metal rubber plastic to craft guns and can't buy them, are you too dumb to realize having to loot in itself is a big disincentive to aimlessly run around risking things?
>>547176067Yes, freekits would not be an issue if the good gear advantage wasn't so marginal. The entire problem is freekits having enough firepower and 0 stake to just hold W until they win and if they don't they're back at it in less than 3 minutes.
>>547176085Tiger Woods please
>>547176085https://youtu.be/5Rk8u2FTaG0
if they do nothing else but delete freekits at least it means the rat faggot who empties a sticher into my back actually risked dying and losing it
>>547176085this shit shouldnt even be in the game
>>547176310Yes, which is why you should go play Tarkov. Its made for faggots like you.
>>547176326This was my high school graduation's theme song... in 2006. What am I doing playing zoomslop FOTM man, what even is my life anymore bros???
>>547176417>faggot is spazzing outgib more (you)s
>>547176381>riskedThis word doesn't mean what you think it does.
>>547176417But I escaped from there...
>>547176182>unprovable magical hypotheticalgo fucking do it yourself lmao it's extremely obviously true to anyone who's played solo>you have to specifically loot metal rubber plastic to craft guns and can't buy themyeah and the vast majority of loot you find recycles into these parts and loot is so abundant you will never have a problem finding enough to subsist
>>547176417And you should play fortnite, it's made for trannies like you
>>547159176>>547159192That augment is meant for trios so a downed person can survive an extended fight before getting revived. It takes like 15 minutes to move 200ft, you can't open the map to check which extracts are still open and have to just crawl and pray it doesn't close off before you get there.
>>547176067You aren't pointing out anything. Multiple people have explained in various levels of competency why it absolutely would make a difference, no matter how small.All youve done so far is completely shit up the thread like a total faggot because you got butthurt that people disagreed with you, and you can't even help yourself but throw an insult in at the end because your blood pressure is so high.Tl;dr you've convinced no one of anything and contributed nothing
>>547176496>>547176550It must be nice being a woman such as yourself. Just being emotional and never having a single logical thought. >>547176503Exactly. Escaped from gear disparity which is what allows greys to compete with legendaries.
>>547176541again, it means it takes more time to prepare, and preparation to begin with, it doesn't encourage blindly killing on sight like a freekit does, saying random irrelevant shit that is beside the point is not an argument you 80 iq nigger
>>547176632>Enjoying extract shooters mean you're a womanAnon you couldnt be more wrong
>>547176550https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAD_5NWzM5g
>>547176182You can buy basic parts from Celeste for seeds, FYI. But seeds aren't exactly super common either
>>547176632>ignores argument>continues namecallingmore (you)s please
>>547176603I am pointing out facts. The reality that you can't comprehend it because you're underage doesn't change that. The extra enjoyment of your tears is just icing on the cake of inevitability because free kits and grey kits are not going anywhere and will always be competitive with geared players, its the fundamental reason why Arc is successful and Tarkov is dead. So go on, reply again, throw me more of your salt its even tastier than killing you with free kits, grey kits or any kits type at all.
>>547176413>he doesnt throw raves in the space port tunnels
>>547176541nobody says it has to consistently lead you to literally being unable to spawn in without a gun, you are so fucking retarded. this is "why make murder illegal because people are gonna murder anyway" tier logic
>Zoomer now posting his favorite tracks to show us he's not madWe fortnite now
NETWORK TIMEOUTWHY CANT I GET INTO A RAIDI WAITED ALL DAY TO PLAY FUCK
>>547166514alternatively go to the cafeteria on stella and unlock the door with the fuel cell. 2 wicker baskets always spawn in there
>>547176821What are your even talking about
>lost a 3v2 because my teammates were just standing out in the open potshotting
>>547176678it's about 5-10 minutes of preparation. yes the absolute laziest fucking niggers might not be willing to do this but if you're dying to the laziest fucking niggers that's a (You) problem>irrelevant shit that is beside the pointthe entire fucking economy is balanced around the expectation that freekits are the baseline, if you don't understand this you're 50iq and incapable of thinking in terms beyond LE HARDCORE GOOD...LE CASUALS BAD...
>>547176765>I am pointing out facts>Here's a bunch of insultsImpressive, if being a retard was impresive
>Put on a youtuber yapping about arc raiders while i work>He mentions how "the ttk is so long you can turn around a fight if you get ambushed!">Footage chosen is 2 people jumping him and he lives at 1 HP and turns it back on them (cuz his team has 2 more people)>The only reason he lived is because the 2 attackers were freekitters with Rattlers and if they had stitchers he'd be fucking deadFurther proof freekits should only have rattlers
>>547176916*your posts even
>>547176947>more subjective reasoning with a dash of irrelevant DOOD LE FUCKIN I SAID THE 4CHAN WORDS BTW FUCKIN THAT LMAO (YOU) IM SO GOOD AT GAMES BTW lol
>>547176947>it's about 5-10 minutes of preparation>for a basic kitbros I think we're arguing with a downie
>>547177009Don't worry anon we're all impressed at how mad you got over facts.
they call me the plantman
>>547177026>youtube faggots shid, piss and lie for viewsIt's a state of matter at this point.
the jews are hacking us
>trying to sell shit and move things around in inventory>ILLEGAL INVENTROY MUTATION DETECTED RETURNING TO HUBgod fucking damn shitcunt trash servers
>>547177095>We'reIf you mean you alone are seething and spamming then yes I agree
>>547177243Its the salt from the geared players getting rekt by free kits. Its jammed up the servers.
>>547177073as opposed to your objective facts and logic reasoning? it's based when you say the funny nigger word but it's cringe when i say it? just give it up and accept this game is not for you, you pseud faggot>>547177075unironic skill issue
>>547169225Rats on PC are usually rust players, I am not kidding, I have started checking and so far it's 4/5 rust players.
>>547177281See >>547177095
>>547177314>unironic skill issuethat's what I said
Watching some KOS free kitting subhuman shit up the game and then proceed to shit up the thread too is like poetry or some shit
>>547177075>downieThat was apparent from post number 3>arguingIt's just ragebait atp, do not engage, etc etc
>>547177026this is like 90% of my deaths>breaching something or doing whatever>guy dumps half a mag into my head before i can leave the animation>perfectly dodge-roll around cover, only thing i can do is crouch and dump my own into his head, i die to a kettle/stitcher 1 while 99% of the guy's health is gonea rat walking up to you doing anything is basically a superior play to having full on hacks
>>547177118https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DXyIa2vk3U
SERVERS ARE COOKED
>>547169225>>547177348I can't relate to /arg/ at all because only twice of like a hundred matches have I been attacked on sight. Turning off crossplay and playing in OCE everyone is friendly as fuck to the point of it being a joke. Just then some guy ran around the map saying "im not friendly, shoot me" and no one did, told me to do it so I did then he said "See I told you im not friendly im dead".
>>547177314having to loot for your gear is an objective incentive to be more cautious and not pvp as much, if you disagree then make an argument instead of moving the goalpost 6 times to irrelevant statements like "actually i believe that its not difficult" "actually it doesn't take X amont of time, it takes Y amont of time"most free loadout players constantly pvp, most geared up players dont, its objective
I tried to join a raid as the servers crashed. I watched the tub launch cutscene then my game basically froze. I better not have lost my gear
>>547177181He wasn't lying, he was just being retarded.
>>547177442>atpyou really are 16 arent you, what even is that gen alpha?
>>547177698>most free loadout players constantly pvp, most geared up players dont, its objective[Source]
>>547177579I also have majority positive interactions and whatnot. But it is obvious the problems people have pointed out.And as the game goes on and everyone finishes all the quests and whatnot, it's going to turn into more and more PvP
>>547177781Pretending to be retarded and being retarded is the same thing on the internet, so... close enough.
>get shot in the back in stella>put up a fight but shield breaks, eventually lose albeit barely according to the recap (he had like 10hp)>tell the guy gg, at least he wasnt fake friendly or camping or some other bs>he starts talking shit in an indian accent>suddenly furious and call him a disgusting shit eater just as he knocks me outIt's kinda crazy how a retarded jeet can send me into a blind fury just by speaking, I really hate them.
>online connection errori just go home wtf
>>547177781https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkEc2V3mO4
>>547174669Retard alert
>>547177825stella montis trios
Can the osprey one tap to the head
>>547177886They are not human along with niggers, jews and chinks, your rage is logical.
Servers down
Servers went to shit twice today apparently, and both times were immediately after I logged off. What are the chances...?
>>547174669are you an unironic nigger who doesn't grasp hypotheticals
>its finally happening
Venator and spawn patch tomorrow, right bros???
>>547177963>triosYou picked the PvP mode and are surprised by PvP?
>>547175885hydroponics on dam has like 20 spawns but only 4 ish seem to spawn per raid lmao. Absolute aids thing to find
it went down just as i got back from another good freechad run feels good
>>547178110>>547177928>Samefagging when the argument is overYou lost, stop shitposting.
>>547178025Nope, 2. Same as Renegade
Free kits only exacerbate the problem with how spawns work in this game. Fix spawns so that people actually spawn in waves (instead of instantly after every kill/extract) and you'd solve almost every problem with the free kit on the non-free side.
Death to extract campers
>>547178221yeah was mushroom farming and accidently went to buried city so i just looted a building near the outskirts and got a ton of trinkets to sell so i can finally upgrade my stash hopefully one last time(it's at 254)
>>547175885I've got six now, and all but one of them was found in a wicker basket, at least one during a flourishing event.The only other one I found on the ground near the shore of the waters in the Hydroponics area.
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING I CAN'T UPGRADE MY CHICKEEEEEEEEEEN
>>547178323cap is 280
add a flea so I can buy keys add a flea so I can buy keys add a flea so I can buy keys add a flea so I can buy keys add a flea so I can buy keys
>>547178412And it's not enough
>>547178243Im surprised he kept arguing with you after that retarded comment desu
>>547177860>And as the game goes on and everyone finishes all the quests and whatnot, it's going to turn into more and more PvPThe devs will 100% put in PvE modes/options. Even Tarkov devs, who are toxic as fuck buckled eventually. Just wait for the player count to start dropping due to the amount of KOS players.
if on average an extraction with loot lets you craft 5 ferro-stitcher 1 kits, then that means all the people who constantly play freekit kos would play 20% less matches of kos, isn't that funny? especially when you understand extraction rate is never 100%
why exactly does embark think that anyone wants to spawn 13 minutes into a fucking matchliterally any loot of value will have been shoved up people's asses
>seeing someone recommend the 15 min free kit spawn in chatok which one of you is watching my favorite streamer
is the hairpin actually bad or is it just shitters and console players who can't aim for the head?
>>547178557You have to upgrade the stupid thing to 3 or 4 for it to be good and why the fuck would you do that when you could upgrade a ferro and just slap a suppressor on it
I'd prefer that they add unique pve content instead of a straight up no pvp mode. Something similar to Mann Vs Machine.
do not exit the game if you're still inI have been "in queue" in the launcher for the last 10 minutes every gaming service, aws, cloudflar, etc are fucking exploding right now
>>547178557It's not good for PvP at all, no. It's a great little utility for dealing with Arc though.
Let me guess, the quest to find out what downed the ARCs in Barren Clearing isn't actually in Barren Clearing right?
>>547178520The amount of idiotic assumptions you have to make to justify your shitpost is astounding.
>>547178318Today before servers crashed i made a point to pursue and kill an extract camper in the last couple minutes of the map. The faggot camped the last spot for 10 minutes and panicked when he realized i was not going to let him call the train. I didn't get out either but fuck him
>>547178274Free kits are a symptom of the greater issues>spawns are fucked>gearing accomplishes little to nothing>pvp requires no investment and pve requires maximum investmentGive greater spawn protection, reduce playercount on small maps, spawn in waves and stop spawns sooner.Make high tier shields noticeably tougher, slightly nerf gray guns, buff purple guns.Arc should be more oppressive and less avoidable, guns designed for pvp should struggle to fight them. This should encourage more balanced or purpose built loadouts on both sides that each come with conscious sacrifices rather than pvp players having free reign of the map.
>>547178618I just got the game yesterday so my equipment reach is a little lacking at the moment>>547178687shame, I like the idea of a high skill weapon that rewards good aim but I guess it just ain't it
>>547178715what assumptions? i dont think you know what word means
>>547178243>say something stupid>instead of admitting you said something stupid/wrong, samefag and shitpost "ironically" for the next 20 minutes and pretend like you dont care despite reply spamming>pray that the next thread comes around so you can post something snarky at the beginning and save your egoThe amount of times I've witnessed this shit on /vg/ is way too high
>>547178762
>>547178520the only shit parts of free kits are the lack of shield rechargers
>>547178848https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZjXpWBsXo4
>>547178762I agree with every single word here.>>547178824Don't worry, there's a pretty easy to craft/find green-tier weapon called the Anvil. Once you can slap a Silencer II on it, its basically just the more powerful badass uncle of the Hairpin.
freekitters should have no guns and cannot equip guns at all but all of their backpack is a safe slot
based summit1g telling it like it is
>>547178970Cheers, I'll keep an eye out
>>547178984>all of their backpack is a safe slotWhy
>>547178970silencer anvil is quite niceI waffle back and forth between silencer and barrel extender though
>>547179075Because then they can't complain about getting killed
>>547178520After my first game I had enough crap to craft more free kits than I could lose
>>547178532When that happens I go sicko mode and get the loot from players. It evens out that way.
>>547179124It is free shit. Them getting killed doesn't matter
>>547179124The people complaining about PvP in a PvP game are former Tarkov players with kits getting obliterated by skilled free kit players.
>>547179220>PvP in a PvPretard
empty loadout + nightraid + shove first bp you find up your ass + die to fall damage + load back in and run it again EZ game??
>>547179220This is an extraction adventure game, buddy.
>>547179273>complaining about PvP in a PvP gameZoomers attention span can't even get past seven words
still haven't gotten my anvil BP, i got a silencer 1, defib for trade(severs are down i know)
>>547179360Actushually its clearly a salt mineSalt > Geared playersMiners > Free kits/Grey kits
>>547179273Retard
THE ARCS FUCKING WON THEY CRASHED THE SPERANZA NETWORK IT'S FUCKING OGRE
newnew>>547179627>>547179627
>>547152327>the fucking fireball
>>547178984This, but normal augments instead.
there a list of what these icons mean?
>>547166886it's so fucking bad, basically pointless
>>547166886I've gotten no blueprints but it's pretty good. I mean why not: all the other skills are pointless.
>>547180258That one means you're super fucked, you're going to rubberband around for the rest of the raid until you die, and the devs won't do anything to give you your loot back. Happened to me a couple of days ago, opened a ticket right away and posted about it on rebbit and got ignored. Wasn't my internet either, everything was working fine, it was the server
>>547168067>only arc at exfilHow did you fuck that up, that's a free extract? Just hit the button and you're set as long as you last a few seconds after. I aggro arc to me just to dissuade other raiders from ratting (they still will even if they can't loot).