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The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>547567301

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xngtneuz

>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming Banner
Yuki - Striker - Order | Until December 3rd

>Current Events/Upcoming Content
Galactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Until January 13th 2026
Guardian of the Ark - Policy Event | Until December 3rd
Galactic Disaster Dispatch - Login Event | Until November 25th

>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the First Update:
https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11209203

>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the Second Update:
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239

>Galactic Disaster Content Improvement Update Notice
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11261625

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Save Data uses a points based system. If you go above a certain threshold, your Save Data will be edited.
https://rentry.co/cznsavedata
https://czn-calc.vercel.app/
https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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>>547595924
Sex with high-end escorts! (unironic)
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>>547595291
As much as I dislike mentioning it, the game's official discord has a feedback channel, which I've used it add some of my feedbacks, but also is a good place to gauge the player's sentiment towards the game. From what I can see:
Feedback threads regarding the issues I've mentioned they're addressing: Yuki, Unit refunds are super popular, also translations
While speeding up text, only gets 2-3 feedbacks, and not very popular, so this might just means the majority of players are not having this issue, so they're not addressing it NOW, but they could consider it after they address the majority's issues
Skip/Sweep however, I do see a lot being mentioned, 11 threads, so I could potentially see this being one of the next QoL changes we're getting, granted they're not committing any other major fuck ups

>>547595565
I'm old
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I remember reading there's a patch coming soon. Does it fix anything I should hold off on doing until after the patch?
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BATTOU
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>>547595924
based BUILT queen
they knew exactly what they were doing with this design, they're korean after all
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>>547596135
Yeah, they're going by popularity now.
The anon you were replying to however was referring to speed of texts in Chaos, and they're sorta addressing it already (speed of animations, mentioned in the latest dev note).
So they're aware players want Chaos to be easier to stroll through (easier in the sense doesn't feel slow and clunky as shit like some events right now).

They seem quick to fix stuff so whatever.
As I said multiple times, I'd whale easily here but they MUST fix the fucking translation first.
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>>547596149
You should spend all units leveling characters, because they will give out a full refund
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>>547596149
see >>547595924
>>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the Second Update:
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239
basically no. If you can wait for the unit refund on the third you can hold off on unit sim
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>>547596149
>Does it fix anything I should hold off on doing until after the patch?
Uhh... it's Dec 3rd, and you'll get a unit refund for character levels. You don't need to hold off on doing anything. Except, and now this is going to be a challenge, don't burn yourself out on Chaos, because eventually there is going to be a new currency that drops during Chaos which you can use to buy upgrade materials from a brand new shop. So theoretically, you'll be able to "level up" your characters by doing Chaos runs, and unless it's a weekly cap or something, you could theoretically grind Chaos until you want to blow your brains out as a means of leveling all your units to max. I'm assuming it's going to be either a weekly limit or such a bad exchange rate that no one will actually do it though.
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>>547596604
My guess is that there will be a weekly/monthly boost to that currency and after you run out you'll barely be able to get any until the reset.
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>>547596364
Agreed with the translation shit, off the top of my head:
>Mist mist stance (Rin)
>Innate/Innitiation (Outbreak/Lead)
>More clarification on buffs n effects, Ex: Medal of Exceptional Entity, people are still asking if the 30% damage is a debuff
>Typos like pic rel
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yjk
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>>547597067
is she blue orlea
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>>547597173
seems like different flavor mika
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>>547597067
Ed...ward
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>>547597173
She has a shitton of heals and some cost reducing epiphanies.
https://rentry.co/f2pbtw
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>>547595924
When's the next update stream? Friday? Or next week?
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>>547597618
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>>547597508
thanks
my poorly drawn wife!
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this is the cutest card in the game
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>>547597976
Rei eating
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>>547597776
I miss the cunny design...
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>>547597976
I love her
Would put a sweet on her tummy and eat it from there, no hands allowed
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Did they ever buff Yuki? Kinda dropped off once I tried her and she sucked.
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>>547597976
>shes literally gonna smash your head in by next 5 seconds
>cute
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surprised that Tressa is not an SSR, she seem so 5 star coded especially with her nice knockers
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Coffee time~
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>>547598617
Extra milk, please.
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>>547597976
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>>547597173
she looks pretty mid to be honest
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Im about to roll with my peanits, so is she really as bad as the doomposters say?
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>>547598512
Imagine if she had 5 star stats
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SEX
E
X
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If a gook has gotten this notification he'd throw his phone against a wall
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>>547597976
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>>547598792
She isn't bad, but the main issue with this game is gook devs are retarded and decided to make the endgame just turn limit slop, so characters will be a brick by default if they lack quick setups or strong single target damage. You can just wait until the last few days of her banner and see if we'll have more info on her buffs. She's really good on Chaos at least since no turn limit and AoE is more valuable there.
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>>547597173
Mostly a damage buffer (about 1-2 morale to next attack) with some good healing. Has a big card that makes the entire hand cost 0 and she's the first debuff remover we get.
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>>547596113
How is this a Vanguard
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>>547599070
>when she sees a massive ebony member
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>Players kept on complaining while devs just listens to a discord group of CCs and streamers who barely plays the game now.
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>you have to unlock one by one
but why
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>>547599186
she's about to kill it so yeah I'd say that's accurate
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AAAAIIIIIEEEE
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>>547599253
You couldn't handle my strongest potions
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I did it bros!
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>>547599540
Good job, you've been a good cutie.
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>>547599294
shes gonna kill it for sure
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I want an Orlea
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>>547599739
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>>547599540
Good job, show Orlea's D*ck
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>op hijack
Lol, lmao
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are you farming this for Mei Lin's kick?
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>>547598512
She's the best design in the game and the best character overall, i agree.
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>>547598738
This was for >>547598512
>>547598792
Think of her as a dps that needs to be carried by another dps and not in a sub-dps way
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>>547599939
Nope, just go 2-2-2
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>Reset the week on a Sunday
Only gacha game i ever played that does this retardation.
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>>547600126
I haven't done any frag farming yet, which 2-sets do you put on DPS compared to Supports?
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>>547600183
It's monday for them.
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Cool Eldritch setting and the first two things they introduce is schoolgirlslop and churchslop.
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>>547599070
>Vanguard
Wait she's a support?
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>Reset the week on the first day of the week
Only gacha game I ever played that does this perfection
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>upgrade one fragment
>out of units
gay
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>>547599307
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>>547600246
Basic boost, attack, crit damage.

Support. Def.
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>>547600183
ae you braindaed
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>>547600246
For Mei Lin it's the basic 20%/atk/crit damage set.
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>>547595924
It's a shame that Rin only has one more week of life
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she did it
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I don't use Tressa but I am trying to select memory fragments when when I finish building her. Is her agony damage affected by Void Damage % on memory frags?
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which difficulty is where you start getting 2 boss mats?
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Which one Lukebroes...
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>>547601021
Dot scales with Dot%,void%,atk% flat atk, in that order. Either 2/2/2 or 4/2 works fine, just make sure to get at least 30% dot sub stats (quite a lot) since she needs that for her final potential
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>>547601108
isn't duping right card basically double bullet value?
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>>547601108
Both look good, and since you already replicated the first one might as well get a other copy of right. Make sure it fits your save data first tho.
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>almost reach pity on standard banner
>get unit I don't want
>reach pity on special banner but win the 50/50
>man, my luck is kinda bad

>a few days later
>six five stars; just got Veronica
>partner for Yuki
>plenty of rolls to spare
I guess this is going to be the second gacha where my luck is amazing. The first is WuWa. I guess that balances out my luck in Mihoyo games.
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>>547600648
same, just auto'd it with haru. bot almost died tho, but he did it
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>>547601108
Here's my deck btw, I don't know if Rapid Fire is better for more bullets here or getting DoD for DOUBLE damage is better since I don't have crazy bullet generation
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>>547601620
Its simple maths, you always want to even out both sides when doing multipliers. Assuming you have all 4 cards
3x3 = 10 hits 1 dance of demon for 4 AP
2x3x2= 12 hits from 2 dance of demons for 4 AP
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>>547601863 (you)
>>547601620
Brainlagged, 2nd one is actually 14 hits from 2 dance of demons
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>>547596113
reminder
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Is there any way to preview the card art animation before spending the prism thing?
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>>547600386
Outdoor baby-making SEX
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>>547602060
>>547601445
>>547601346
Alright DoD it is, thanks broes
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>>547600594
>rolling for THE bbc-coded character
lol
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>>547602329
>bbc-coded
So all of them?
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>>547602329
We know you are all from India now just pack it up.
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>put a fucking spade on her tits as if to mark her
you just KNOW
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Shouldn't the atk 2pc set be better for Yuki because of her last talent?
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I finished all the commander missions and growth guide....where is my selector bros
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>>547602624
but enough about zzz
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>>547602223
ask /czn/
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>>547602806
I think it depends on whether you're building for chaos or an optimized savedata.
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>the current and near future banners are all girls with ntr bodytypes
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can any lad share his filters
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>>547602856
We're getting at least 10 more by December, from the traveler and event shop, but anything I'm still glad the gibs were mostly crystals rather than standards. If I count all the pulls in my day 1 account its 370 premium pulls vs 310 standards? The only reason we're not hitting the selector is due to the beginner discounted pulls
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Yuki chads
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>>547599826
It's not a very good deck or anything, but it can heal enough that she can buy about 4 or so extra turns before the crab can kill me. She's there to retain spam Beryl.
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>Chaos Zero made me paypig for the first time ever
Feeling really good right now, bros. I'm loving the game and really want to support it despite being a poorfag/never expending money on these
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>>547601260
ty anon
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>>547595924
I have striker fatigue
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>>547596113
Oh no, her design is growing on me...
>>547597976
Her love for heavy things is endearing! It means i have a chance!
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>>547603507
BASED cuckGOD topping up to get NTRd
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>>547602856
>40k
dude just roll it.
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>>547598512
Gachas knows it's wise to throw a bone for F2players sometimes. It really helps that she's really strong too
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>>547603325
>Retain Beryl
Based, I'm trying to build the same deck myself but with Upgrade censer, and the stars are just not aligning.
I'm abusing all the mechanics as well to keep the save low point:
>Reroll Kyrken's messenger to convert into 1 of those 2 neutrals
>Pick routes with most event for the Mutant Sample [Remove] trick
This way she should sit at a wooping 90 points with no basics, 2 neutrals with epiphanies, the rest of the points are free room for Divines/More neutrals/Forbidden.
Although I'm not sure what Forbidden she even wants, theres that Lead card that activates 2 for free, but Orlea decks are so combo based you always want to play in a certain order, or avoid playing her creature cards for retain triggers
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>>547603268
I suppose your right about the discount banner. I just want to get Veronica but maybe the 3rd update will have another log in bonus event too.
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>>547603762
I wish you praised me for supporting the game, not for topping Renoa!! She's such a cutie tho
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>>547603507
Well I can see myself spending more time on this game than STS/Darkest Dungeon, both games I bought and enjoyed, so I can at least give back to them the monthly and BP
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>>547604150
she is
Owen is so... Iucky!!!
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>>547603601
Crazy except i dont own a single striker so im chill with it. Too many damn rangers and void dps in this bitch though
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>>547603507
None of the value propositions are good enough to be worth spending money on a free game, imo. There aren't even any sex skins in this game, so you can't even justify that. You can't buy a character for $5-25. The value just isn't there, even if it's 30% cheaper than Genshin.
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>>547604223
Right? The gameplay alone is really engaging, so i really wanna see what they can cook with some extra time/resources
I was also really close of expending cash on Wizardry Daphne for similar reasons, but the lack of a realiable pity rate soured my mood. Chaos Zero was the first time i lost my F2P status...
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Turning off the rare variants Zero System Upgrade also turns off EVERY other optional ones, like discount, shop chances, aether eater event.... WHAT THE FUCK
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>>547595924
Does any other gacha have this season garbage where there's no 2-3 week long events and is instance a 3 month long slog? Why the fuck would they make seasons and season passes like this in a game that doesn't have a multiplayer gameplay loop like fps games or assfaggots games?
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>>547604458
You may have a point. Personally i really liked the daily 90 extra gems, so that's what i went for. I know it's silly but i just wanted an excuse to buy something since i've been having lots of fun with this game for a while now,
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>turn
Mistranslation. Should be combat or fight
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>>547604819
Pretty much all. Just named differently.
If not season its just the next major patch.
Welclme to gachas where theres weeks of downtime between every update. This gets suckers to try more gachas and spend more.
Wahlah, you now know why vg has gotten infinitely more traffic since genshin and most of it is from sea. Gachas used to be on v for a reason, it wasnt popular.
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>>547603973
What I've been rerolling instead is the starting fate. I always pick the convert 3 random cards into neutrals fate because on top of those it can also roll maneuvering fire/quick shelling on Rangers, which is as good as removing their basics. I think you should always gamble on that fate unless you're on Mei Lin. I don't know if you can roll confiscation on it, but that would be strong too. Even then it's so tricky and RNG heavy to make these decks that I've been settling for getting 1 neutral back and since forbidden cards also have a lot of RNG, I've mostly skipped them, but the 0 cost ones would be fine (tunnels are still good for free epis).
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>>547605203
Yeah I always pick that one for sure, and even if its bad removing a converted neutral is cheaper than basic, but how do you "reroll" it? Play until checkpoint and reset?
You can only get Rare neutrals so no confiscation/gear bags/reorganize sadly
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They should let you fight the weekly boss after the 3 times limit
I just want to try other team against Judas
Cheesing it with Vero is no fun
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I swear Tressa's 3x Vital Attack epiphanies hit more than 3 times
I keep seeing more numbers than 3 damage numbers
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>>547604784
Just reset all and don't upgrade elites.
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>>547605469
>Play until checkpoint and reset?
Sadly it's the only way. But since the tunnel is usually close to the checkpoint, I can both check for it and check if I get any lucky epiphanies to make the run worth keeping.
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Which one of these could be good on Yuki? Or neither?
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>to level up your characters you need exp mats AND UNITS
>to limit break them you need promotion mats AND UNITS
>to upgrade their potentials you need potential mats AND UNITS
>to level up their partners you need partner exp mats AND UNITS
>to limit break said partners you need partner promotion mats AND UNITS
>to convert the materials above, you need said materials (above or below their tier) AND UNITS
>to upgrade your relics you need memory fragment crystals AND UNITS
>to unmindfuck your combatants after a chaos run you need limited daily mats OR UNITS
>to buy food that will last for two runs only you need UNITS
Reduction aside, is it really necessary for EVERYTHING to cost units?
Like, why mats conversion or buying food costs units for example? I mean, duh, I understand you need money to buy food etc but that's beyond the point here. For conversion, you can't exactly farm a specific tier of material only, you always get a few lower tier ones right, so you're just converting what you already farmed into higher tiers (or breaking higher into lower) so is it really necessary to add a unit cost on top of something you already farmed and cannot opt against it?
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>Finally have Yuki. Haru, Renoa, Khalipe and Mei Lin at 60
Now that i have the 5 elements covered i probably should focus on a support next. Who should i go for? Veronica or Mika?
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>>547605865
Second one sucks unless you have a way to discard it
First one is okay
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>>547605865
Left. More draw.

Right needs a discarder.
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>>547605865
Left
Ecstacy is better but left works
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>>547606023
>>547606034
I do have a Nia. She also has Eternal Hunger. Thanks I think I'll pick another
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>>547605784
That's what I originally did last time but you guys made fun of me and tell me to just turn it off...
No wonder I've been seeing way less shops in chaos lately
>>547605849
Ah I see, too much work for me, If I do all that and miss the copies I might just burn out, pick rel is my best run so far and I'm already malding because no Softie Growing creature and no dupes on Accel
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>>547605912
Gachas like to cockblock your character progress since if you have everyone built in 1 week the chances of you losing interest are much bigger.
That said they're definitely took it too far with the UNITS, so i'm happy this is getting fixed
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>>547603507
thread is mostly third world that can't afford anything but begging on reddit
don't expect good feedback
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>>547605912
It's a symptom that they're copying gachas that are already in a bloated, resource-dense state without understanding how they got there.
At least they're inching closer to arriving at the same "deprecate the general currency" solution those games all inevitably arrive at.
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>>547605673
There's one version that's x3 but triggers twice if you are hitting an enemy with at least 4 Agony on it so it's actually x6
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>>547605673
That just happens with many attacks. They'll hit a certain number of times but the animation will have more numbers, it's just a visual effect to look cool, like for example when you play with Renoa in her trauma.
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Cumming inside the eromata monk girl!
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>>547606296
You mean this one or one of the 3x?
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>finally reach level 50
>don't feel like playing anymore
I'm tired of grinding chaos...
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>>547606329
monsters with buffs that drop chaos orbs
the upgrade makes them appear more often, and is mandatory to take to progress upgrades
every buffed encounter, especially elites which you normally want to path to, has a risk of rolling a run-ending modifier like Gluttony (steals attack cards that hit it) or status card spam
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Get yours now! Rape Judas 10 with this one simple trick!
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>>547606329
Most of it are fine, until you see encounters with bullshit like:
"Strong" deals more damage, on multi hit fucks like vagina monster
"Heavy" makes 2 of your cards +1 cost and the autoplay one, appearing on encounters with 3-4 monsters and all of them has it, literally unplayable
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>>547606329
An enemy that has an extra passive effect which include
>Some of your card become unplayable
>Put burn card which damage you
>Crippled with half damage
>Playing some card hurts you
>Hitting the enemy with a card temporarily removes it from the deck
If you reach max difficulty the boss become a rare variant I think
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>>547602856
>41k
How?
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>>547602856
Is it even worth rolling from a standard banner when new characters are constantly being added?
I was going to wait and start rolling only when a character I like appears there.
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>>547606471
Vital attack IV is the one I meant
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Hello friends I started playing this recently. Most of the game runs fine at 60fps on my phone but for some reason movies/cgi play at like 2fps. Is this a common bug or something on my end?
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>>547606329
>Thin deck of almost all useless attack cards
>See Vagina monster
>Gluttony - eats (first?) attack card every turn
>Running someone like Haru
k
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>>547603507
Does Renoa sex feel good?
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>>547606686
>manual
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>>547607006
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>>547596135
>Sweep however
I need this in simulation. I'm getting tired of fighting the same mobs every day. Just let me sweep stages I've already done.
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>>547606329
>got the autoplay random card buff with the fatty delicacy enemy
I've never been as raped as that moment.
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Goodnight mr crabs, he will no longer create many aqua balls...
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>nothing personal mr. dogfucker
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>>547607359
>Discard all cards
>Consecutive fast-pumps on your dick
The best
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>>547605981
Veronica
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E0 Kayron but has Bria
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I want to auto 4x in a row bros...
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>>547607750
But Creating many aqua balls is his reason to live... also, congrats. I'm jealous
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Which female combatant has the most sensitive nipples?
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Haha...
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>>547608119
my p2w himbo
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>>547608242
Farming decks was hellish, I don't recommend. I just did it because I'm stupid.
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>>547606527
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>>547607973
KEK
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>>547607750
>gives AP
>heals
>draws cards
>aquaballcreeps the Crab
Is there anything Mika can't do?
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>>547608308
That's E0 tho
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>>547608069
Fuck....
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>>547608416
sike! I meant parter2win
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When will they refund the money? I can't even buy food, fuck.
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>>547608408
Be not ugly
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>>547608074
Thanks bro. Was really torn since Mika feels slightly more universal
>>547608280
It's so over...
>>547608313
It was worth it, tho. You're strong
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>>547608408
Bring Ed's mom back.
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Which teams can use Cassius effectively? I want to farm a GOOD deck for him. I've mostly used him with Mika and Haru/Tressa. But I'd like some variety to spice up the gameplay steamrolling Tier 14 chaos.
It should be of note that I have him on E6 AND with all his potentials so he will stupidly escalate morale and Fortitude for the turn as well as decrease enemy morale while I complete a trillion quests.
Mostly used him with Mika AND Tressa/Haru but I'd like some variety.
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>>547608408
Wear panties.
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Forbidden cards count as neutrals?
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https://arca.live/b/chaoszeronightmare/154724331?mode=best&p=1
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chaos zero content bros... how can do we cope
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>>547608920
Just about every team can. He's a draw engine that gives morale, fortitude, and -morale on enemies. He also does solid damage.
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>>547608920
he's not for chaos until he gets rate-up'd
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>>547608920
Any unit that wants to draw cards, like Yuki or Rin or Mei Lin should be fine.
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X IS BROKEN!! BUILD THEM NOW!!!
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>>547603507
It was a no brainer really, with the 60 daily plus the monthly 90 that's 30 rolls a month 360 rolls per year
Not buying it is just a full on brick
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>>547609343
1 clickbait equals a billion wasted units in the community...
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This is so stupid
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>>547609030
it's over, we can't coping anymore
zero content!
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>>547609343
We LOVE and worship ALL eceleb and content creator posts EXCEPT ones that are about Flares.
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Damn, the discord tranny is still seething lmfao.
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I want to make Luche enjoy being a woman
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>>547609030
the content is your weekly chaos
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>>547609650
i was thinking it. xhe's permarustled
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>>547609419
How the fuck did you get so much Morale
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>found a good fragment with both crits and attack.
>all rolls go to flat health
Just scrap this entire fucking system, Holy fuck man
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>>547609419
Tressa is the best CZN
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>>547609873
stop being bad at the videogame
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>>547609786
Cassius gives 1 Morale when you complete a quest. He's playing Triple 0 quest (so quest every 3 0 cost) and playing Mika Tressa Cassius (so heals generate 3-4 shadow daggers, source is 0 cost, several cassius cards are probably epiphanied to 0 cost).
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>>547609650
>>547609757
I just think it's very interesting that the same people who post eceleb slop are also the same retards who melt down for hours if anyone posts a Flares video. They love ecelebs, unironically, they keep posting eceleb videos, they just hate Flares.
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>>547609873
this but deckbuilding
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>>547609873
Genshit regacy, you rike?
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>>547609873
>roll on the correct subs stats
>but get the worst values
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>>547608920
Theoretically, you can run him with anyone, just as a joker/draw bot. But he's the most efficient with Tressa and Yuki. Haru too, but I barely play her, and when I do I prefer to run her with Khalipe. With e6 you can probably run him as a healer as well, given the dps isn't someone extremely ap-hungry like Kayron.
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Are we gonna make it?
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didn't ask tranny
stay eternally seething
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>>547609873
I've never played a homosexual gacha game before, so this is my first introduction to the patented homosexual artifact system, and yeah, it's a fucking nightmare. Good thing that 30% cheaper nigger cocks in Dawei scrapped all the good stuff this game had at the last minute so that he could turn it into a shameless homosexual clone.
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Very fat highschooler beats the shit out of homosexual jew man.
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>547610163
is this a bot? I swear I've seen the exact word by word hoyocuck shitpost like 10 times by now
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>>547609873
30% cheaper btw
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Speaking of Cassius, what totally-not-artifacts does he want? I have no idea how to build him.
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>>547609873
Unironically china's fault.
>cause pandemic
>release p2w zelda clone to milk people in lockdown
>make infinite money
>every other dev sees your success and copies the wrong things
If gook devs were smart they would start their own pandemic.
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>>547609343
Install the addon that disables custom thumbnails, it made me enjoy youtube again
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>>547610120
Maybe, we'll have to see how the rewrites/second launch go.
Personally I won't be putting any money into the game until I'm sure it's not going to implode because of a second, entirely preventable shitshow with the director doing his best to strangle this golden goose.
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>>547610315
I wonder if it's the same discordtranny seething about the thread not worshipping youtubers, they seem to happen at always the same time
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>>547610120
If the devs actually expect us to run lab 0 exclusively for 90 days - no, probably not. Especially if they don't do anything about the retarded epiphany rng. The core game system is incredibly good, characters and variety of teams/strats is great. But the current event is absolutely terrible if there's nothing new planned for the event chaos specifically.
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Next update leak: Tressa's Shadow reload will be reworked
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>>547610340
I'm glad that there is at least 1 other sane human being whose eyes are open enough that they can see this grift.
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>>547596113
I need art of her with the lower dress removed so it's just her leotard.
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>>547610319
If only it looked as 30% as good as genshit
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>>547610506
Nah. If they start nerfing 4*s because they're too good, I'm out.
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>>547610506
Honestly, it should.
Cheap ways to cheese the game make balancing fights almost impossible and only serve to make things worse in the long run.
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>nerfchuds still coping
nerfs don't happen in gachas.
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>another week another 8000 pts of chaos runs where my main dps move doesn't get an epiphany by the end of the run
So fun
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>>547610519
if i were to create a pandemic that shuts people in, i can think of more grifts than a gacha clone of a mid game
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>>547610120
Short term, yes. Long term, I genuinely do not see how anyone can play this game long term.
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>>547610787
It would never happen, at best we'll get new seasonal/variant decks for characters that they'll be forced to opt into for the newest content.
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>>547610950
There has never been a larger transfer of wealth than what occurred during the pandemic. Gayshit is only one of the myriad of travesties that we must now deal with the ramifications of.
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Just give him DoT immunity and Curiosity debuff, lmao
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>>547610865
Sure explicit nerfs won't happen, but bosses will start going untargetable or simply have 99% damage reduction after being x times on a turn.
There are many ways to combat cheese.
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>>547611198
this is a sos clone. characters meant to break the game here. it's working as intended
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>>547609873
heh that was me a week ago
they for sure have the mihomo coding for artifacts
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Does this increase ALL the cards or just the one she draws with this card?
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>>547610865
>nerfs don't happen in gachas.
They'll just make enemies that completely counter the "problem" (i.e. f2p) characters.

Like, remember when we saw the preview and there was either a trash translation of a boss mechanic that said it did something like dealt more damage for each created card or something? And how people were saying it's going to nerf pretty much all the void DPS characters? And then the boss came out and it's only referencing the cards that the boss creates kek
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>>547611383
all
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It feels like this deck is missing something!! Oh wait a fucking epiphany on my anchor shot. This is the 3rd time I haven't gotten an epiphany on it while getting 2-3+ retrieve anchor pointers. Fuck season shit making me have to build a new deck
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>>547610180
how do you not die in three turns
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>>547611383
it boosts all yuki's attack(red) cards
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>>547611452
thanks
asking because you never fucking know with these devs
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>muh burn out
Have you considered that you're doing this to yourself? Yes we know this game has many Jewish systems, if you're not having fun just take a break dudes you're gonna miss like 0.2 cents worth of pulls
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>>547611198
>gacha game tries to 'indirectly' nerf character
this has literally never succeeded before
every single time it makes everyone either double down on the most broken example or just fucks over completely unrelated units
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>>547611475
Judas 10? He doesn't hit that hard and Haru just kinda melts his ass before he gets to have many actions
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>>547611383
All cards.
I prefer Draw 2 / Draw 1 now, Draw 1 next turn variants more, though.
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>>547609419
How can you balance Tressa Cass Mika team?
Tressa have tons of dot that don't care about dmg reduction.
Cass hit 1500+ dmg for zero cost, draw, give you fuck tons of morale, his fortitude and morale debuff make enemy literally dealing 0 dmg.
Equip them with some equipment that give shield like the lv30 armor in void chaos and you also have fuck tons of shield too.
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>>547611590
>take a break
>from a gacha game
No such thing. You quit gacha games, you never take a break from them. If you take a break from a gacha, you might as well start over or buy a new account when you come back. But really, don't do that. Just quit. If you need to take a break from a chore, just stop doing the chore forever.
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>>547609419
>>547611874
time eater or out of turn damage massively reduced
it's a gacha so it's probably happening
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>>547611593
I guess my Haru is just bad then
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>>547611874
This is such an ugly character design and I hope that we get a cute girl replacement.
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>>547611591
>this has literally never succeeded before
It has succeeded before, multiple times.

>>547611874
>How can you balance Tressa Cass Mika team?
Well, you don't, but if the devs wants to fuck over that team they would:
>enemy ends turn after X cards are played
>enemy is immune to DoT
>enemy penalizes player for creating cards
>enemy penalizes player for drawing cards
>enemy penalizes player for healing
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>>547611475
Haru hits very hard.
Also I just use his free cards to shield myself.
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>>547611958
You can't just make every boss to have time eater gimmick
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if I took away your gerbil-mouse-rabbit, would you die?
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>>547612219
well there's none so far?
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end game is essentially the shitty relic farming hell that no one likes
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>>547612126
>enemy penalizes player for creating cards
>enemy penalizes player for drawing cards
>enemy penalizes player for healing
That's like 90% of character ingame
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>>547612126
>enemy penalizes player for creating cards
Great job you just fucking killed Kayron
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bro can you just quit the game and fuck off?
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>>547612456
>>547612635
>Enemy takes no damage from cards below 1-cost
>Enemy is immune to all forms of debuffs
>Enemy heals % of HP and removes x debuffs after taking each hit
Plenty of ways to specifically target a certain playstyle and nerd it to the ground.
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Yuki needs to wear a bra
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>>547612635
All the more reason to roll for the newest shilled unit, goyim :)
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>>547612291
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>>547608408
A reasonable amount of damage.
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>>547612635
Yeah that's what they'll do if they just keep copying HSR endgame content. Create a problem and sell the solution.
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dead game until the update hands me like a gazillion units from my tax refund
is that going to be tomorrow or are they going to make me wait another week?
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rei is so fucking broken on a compact team holy shit. i can use the same 5 cards every turn
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>>547613364
December 3rd
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>>547613285
man I wish we could kill every hoyocuck that keeps bringing their trash here
why do you fags keep derailing every single general into arguing about hoyoshit
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>>547603507
I will probably start buying the monthly myself starting next year though I'm not super into the grind and endgame it's still pretty fun at the core level
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Who's the easiest girl to rape in this game after Mika?
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>>547613527
Basin is quite literally MoC but alright
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>>547613667
ur mom
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>>547613434
I really fucking hope not it'd suck to have an entire dead week of nothing
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>>547613527
>man I wish we could kill every hoyocuck that keeps bringing their trash here
Same. Pic related. Except for legal reasons, I do not want him killed, I just want him removed and for the game to be reverted to everything it was before he tried to turn it into a hoyo clone.
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do i do it
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>>547613846
Looks free
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Where the fuck are the dupes
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>>547613717
It's impressive how badly this dude shit the bed. They'd better spend the next year giving us everything we would have had if he hadn't "run out of money" and rewrote/cut everything.
I want my fucking Chaos Atlas and Partner Affinity Events.
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>>547612916
>Enemy takes no damage from cards below 1-cost
>kayron's nuke costs 0
>veronica's ballista costs 0
Your surgical strike looks more like carpet bombing to me.
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>>547613952
where are the fucking dupes and epiphanies in this shit chaos
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>>547613709
>I really fucking hope not
Uhh... okay then.
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>>547613667
believe it or not
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>>547613687
>replying
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>>547614093
I'd pull for this and her massive tits
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>>547613667
Luche is the most prime rapebait in the game.
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>>547613952
>he grinds a new deck on seasonal meme map
autism
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>>547614248
u kinda have to for the harder content in the season, unless u just use tressa because she can work with a mediocre deck.
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>>547608408
The 5* mika won't have whirlpool bricking their deck
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>>547609873
>All the retards going muh hoyoshit when koreans game always liked numbers rng, epic seven did this shit way before hoyo and if any game is at fault for this system is summoner war.
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>>547614013
Yeah, it's unfortunate. But CEOs have "quantified" "fun" via a complicated equation of engagement metrics compared to pakeji sales, and so because those are what "good games" are now, he probably didn't shit the bed at all to the people who matter. Just its players.
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I can't decide between Cassius and Nia. They both draw cards well apparently but he's cool and she's cute and I can't decide. I'm leaning towards Nia because she's cute whereas most of the rest of the girl cast are just sexy.
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I need a suptix
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>>547610120
If they keep listening yeah, but they're taking a while to address the epiphany question.
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>>547614024
>most of the lead cards in the game cost 0
>mei lin unity strikes cost 0
>beryl retain discounts to 0
>orlea
the worst part is no matter how many of these ideas he throws out you're one hugo away from just ignoring them all anyways
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>>547614621
>suptix
?
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Has the game been crashing for anyone else anytime they alt tab? Sometimes it crashes even if I keep it in the forefront on auto but it's only been doing that lately so I don't know if a new update came out that bricked the game.
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>>547614764
it's a granblue player
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>>547614659
I think it's based that you pay this tax for using the Mei Lin crutch
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>>547612006
>This is such an ugly character design
But enough about your mother!
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>>547614764
selector
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>>547614024
>>547614741
Bro I'm not a game designer, I'm a retard spitballing on a mongolian basket weaving imageboard.
My point is, if they really wanted to destroy dagger spam they could easily do it.
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>>547614764
NTA but it's a GBF term for a deal they offer a few times a year: You pay the price of a 10-roll and you get that 10-roll plus a pick ticket for any non-limited character in the game. It lures out the minnows.
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>Enter tier 13 run with 1 DPS and 1 Sub DPS and Mika
>Two battles in
>Die because not enough sustain
>Go again with 1 DPS 1 Sustain and Mika
>Die again because not enough damage
I'm bored bros
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>>547615101
this will get so many replies
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>>547615026
Ah okay, so the same as Another Eden's Star Dream Encounter (SDE)
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>>547614967
They can just make enemies with infinite actions. Something that will keep attacking every 1-3 cards and won't run out of them until you end the turn. It punishes every degenerate playstyle and is futureproof against any most broken ideas they might have.
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What is your team level for chaos level 6 (tier 10)?
I have a level 60 DPS + level 50 supports and I can't get to the first boss since I keep dying before I can even get some epiphanies
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>>547615026
>10 roll + non-limited selector
I would buy that shit in an instant here. Long as it's not more than $20-30
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>>547613846
Lucky
Every t14 normal i got literally have tyrant 4 and harden for every 3 turns
That shit is as free as it could get
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>>547615229
>They can just make enemies with infinite actions. Something that will keep attacking every 1-3 cards and won't run out of them until you end the turn. It punishes every degenerate playstyle and is futureproof against any most broken ideas they might have.
That doesn't counter Cassius Tressa Mika because Cassius gives Morale, Fortitude, and -Morale.
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>>547615232
might as well go balls deep with E2/partner
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>>547615232
I can't believe you wasted your godly luck on a worthless E2 of Yuki.
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>>547615280
I haven't even attempted it, I need my codex upgrade crutches
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>>547615359
Then they can just give the enemy +1 morale every action they take, infinite scaling? So don't spam too hard?
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Do I keep coping or do I just send this deck and farm some other unit?
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>>547614967
>I'm a retard spitballing on a mongolian basket weaving imageboard.
Don't worry zoomer, you're smarter than most gacha """game designers""".
At least you were actually trying, now imagine how much worse their implementation of this shit would be.
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>>547609419
>>547611874
Reminder:
>Yuki capped at +1 hit when shit like this exists
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>>547615524
BUT THE POWERCREEP?
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>>547615414
That still doesn't counter Cassius. You basically just need to end the turn after X cards are played. Or eat every card that is generated, while also buffing the enemy, I guarantee you that gacha devs wont care and might even enjoy that this also nerfs more characters than the targeted ones. Ending turn after X cards is already a thing in StS so it *will* happen here, just a matter of time.
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>>547615359
>That doesn't counter Cassius Tressa Mika because Cassius gives Morale, Fortitude, and -Morale.
He takes a while to get the morale going. You need to use 3 cards for a single stack and if between these stacks you're getting hit by a boss for 800 base damage you're not going to be able to make it to the huge stacked stats before dying.
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>>547615706
>You need to use 3 cards for a single stack and if between these stacks you're getting hit by a boss for 800 base damage you're not going to be able to make it to the huge stacked stats before dying.
No one is beating a boss that hits for 800 damage every 3 actions except Beryl Retain and maybe counter attack teams.
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>>547615368
>>547615383
It’s not too bad i already am a rin fag and kinda torn with chizuru being the same exact fucking element and class
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>>547615976
Speaking of, how the hell do we have kit leaks for characters that are probably half a year away but not the next two from this event?
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>>547615524
Anon you don't get it
Tressa takes a LOOOOT of mad skillz to play okay? She's sooooo hard to play properly so she deserves to oneshot every content in this game just by copying that 3 shit cards in a row
Meanwhile Yuki? Lmao get fucked retard. You will stack 1000000 morale and vulnerable just to deal the same damage as Tressa you stupid pig
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>>547615850
They are if the boss only does this using an extra action mechanic, like the blue pot final boss. His weakness is that boss punishes decks that use 6 cards in a turn the same as decks that use 20+ cards. Something that won't stop until you end your turn is a clear counter to this team and would likely stop many other problem characters too.
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>>547616238
6 cards is a lot different than 3
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>level a cheap node up to get to this tier
>forgot I also have to level up the nodes before this on the top line and overshoot the 70 line
>shouldn't be a big deal...
FUCK
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post gacha gameplay that takes skill
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>>547615653
Internal data shows that Yuki already performs well in battles against two or more enemies,
so simply increasing her numerical values was deemed to carry a high risk of overbalancing the Agent.
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>>547616408
probably rhytm games like idolmaster
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If you used Tressa at any point in the game you simply didn’t beat the game shrimple as
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I don't know about you guys but I only play honest decks.
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>>547616590
>start the game
>tressa in the tutorial

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>547616529
i mean, this is just a 8k damage
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>>547616659
Wholesome and comfy Haru enjoyers
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>1 month
>10 million in profits
>still no hypno porn
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>>547616529
My fav character in the game is Tressa, her and Yuki are my only lvl 60, the gap of power between the two is so dumb that it feels like i'm playing a 1.0 Genshin character in todays meta (5 years later). The game came out the other day.
If they don't want to fix dumb decks like Mei/Tressa/Cassius/Kayron then at the very least have the decency to make future characters have a similar power level.
I will never ever roll a character day 1 on this game again, ever.
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>>547616659
Based
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>>547616238
>stop many other problem characters
Yeah like Yuki lmao
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>>547616379
You're not understanding me. I said 6 cards total. The blue pot boss punishes using many cards. However, extra action only works once, so if the boss action count is something like 5, it'll punish a normal fair team that uses 6 cards the same way it'll punish a card spam team because it won't keep attacking 3, 4, 5 times in a single turn.

What I'm saying is: if we got a boss that, after its first action, lined up a new action every 3 or so cards used and kept getting more attacks in unless you ended your turn, that is a type of enemy that would be strong against most dominant teams without being a threat to most weaker or fair ones.
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>>547616116
If you read the e7 writer rewrite that the dataminer dropped, you would see that Chizuru and Serenial don't exist in the script. So those two are much newer creations.
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>>547616868
>I will never ever roll a character day 1 on this game again, ever.
yep. i guess it's my fault for expecting banner characters to be close to release characters in power level.
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>>547617010
So are they going to rewrite this event too?
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Yuki is day 1 launch power, because Luke, Orlea, and Rin were at launch too.
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Just got Veronica and I'm wondering what the play is on Pendant of Resolution. Do any of the epiphanies stand out as way better than the others, or is it a low priority card compared to the rest?
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>>547617261
Right
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>>547616590
tressa is honest thoughbeit
>no main DoT stat on frags
>needs to delete turns to apply debuff
>subpar without enablers
>ult is fairly dogshit
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>>547616784
>profit
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>>547617261
Right is pretty good.
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>>547617261
The skill epi is used only in certain niche teams. All other epis are about the same, micro ballistas aren't too strong and you can reach max reload with only her allies.
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>>547616953
>every 3 or so cards used and kept getting more attacks in unless you ended your turn
Yuki already weak af, this just make her unusable
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>>547617261
Right is good, for pendant I like keeping the upgrade versions because skills still cost AP, not worth picking up. If it was 0 then maybe, has use for Mei Lin too if it was 0.
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>>547616529
>Internal data shows that Yuki already performs well in battles
>>>>>>>>Inflated 3k damage because of her aoe skills hitting 3+ targets
Does not change the fact that her damage multipliers are laughably low that even Rin, a ST focused character, can end aoe fights faster than the premier aoe character herself
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>They burned 140 limited pulls on Yuki
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>Yuki is NEVER getting numerical value buff
Feels good
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>shitposter can't do math
Shocking.
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>>547617347
OK, Tressafag. Now do the same with Yuki. Exactly.
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>not wanting yukis fat milkers on the homescreen right away
i hate gay
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>>547617567
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH IS THAT GIGA DAMAGE IF YOU TIMES IT BY THREE BECAUSE THERE WERE THREE MOBS?
AND THEY WERE WORTHLESS TRASH THAT WOULD'VE GOTTEN DUNKED ON BY ST ANYWAY?
GUESS WE CAN'T BUFF HER DAMAGE
it's okay they're gonna turn her into a t0 ST monster
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There are people who will NOT receive their nude whore in counseling.
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>>547616953
>You're not understanding me.
I think you're not understanding me. 6 cards is a lot different than 3 cards.
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>>547617603
this will be me when the upcoming b.bcqueen ends up being worse than bricki
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Holding hands with Renoa
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>>547617921
I said 6 cards as a total amount of cards used by a team in a single turn and 3 as how long an enemy could wait before doing an extra punish. Those are numbers for different things.
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the most broken character atm is thressa. no one else can kill 40k+ HP bosses in a few turns. all 5* are shitters compared to her
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Just nerf/rework that particular Tressa's epi and give all players 20 pulls as compensation or something.
>For the greater good!
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Started couple days ago. Is level-appropriate chaos supposed to be actually fairly challenging? Definitely enjoying it but also very surprised given that you can sleep-walk most content in gacha until the very end game usually.
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Yuki's fat tits all for me
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>>547618184
>meilinchud wanting the competition to get gutted
i'm onto you
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>>547617878
If the girls got naked and you could administer different forms of therapy, Yuki would be a lot more popular.
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>>547618209
Sounds like you don't play properly. Level appropriate content should be piss easy.
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>>547595924
isnt this the blacked symbol
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>>547618184
I am quitting the game as soon as they nerf anyone. If the Yuki epiphany buffs end up being nerfs I'm also quitting, and I don't even have Yuki.

>>547618209
>Is level-appropriate chaos supposed to be actually fairly challenging?
I never faced any sort of challenge in this game until I started doing the seasonal event Chaos, because I don't have Veronica and I didn't have Mei Lin.
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>>547618406
only for americans
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>>547618406
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>>547618209
Might be because you have no fragments yet (and the shitter low level fragments are awful so no wonder you wouldn't farm them). You can try to upgrade partners too.
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eat your weekly tear, cuck
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>>547618716
yuki's pussy juice gives me +60 stamina...
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>>547618260
Fwiw Mei Lin's degeneracy takes way more effort to be viable, and she's a 5*. Everyone gets Tressa for free.
>>547618520
Devs can and will make mistakes, especially for a game that has too many interactions like CZN. Fixing it sooner than later will allow more design space for future content.
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>>547618406
stop consooming bbc porns rajeesh
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>Veronica, Orlea and Beryl
I'm thinking to either Veronica or Beryl with Owen, for the wind charge. But even with three copies of wind charge and one tutor, it puts a big restriction on how many attacks you can do during the turn. Doubling ballista attacks or adding a hit to a 1000% attack Beryl shot, doesn't seem worth it.
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>>547618609
Devs are crazy if they think i'm replacing my caring wife for this cheap whore, or any other void striker
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>>547618520
>>547618397
maybe Yuki really is that weak damn
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>>547618886
Nah, if they start nerfing things I'm out. There's already so much fucking RNG shit in this game and you can't even actually raise your units because there's not enough stamina. If they start neutering the only good deck that characters have, I'm gone.
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>>547617785
They can literally fix her by simply adding a combo/defeat tag on her cards that gives you more hit whenever you chain her cards or defeat a trash mob but of course these retards won't do that
Instead they're going to make her a weaker version of Haru lmao
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>>547619184
ORLEALETS???
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>>547619184
?
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>>547619010
>my caring wife

>sucks ebon colored cock daily

>ends up with a black boyfriend in the manga
lole
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>>547619252
>ends up with a black boyfriend in the manga
Sauce?? i've my small white weeny out already
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>>547619315
Never forget that the people making Reddit posts about how the girls need to be less sexy is literally a homosexual Indian man who is rangebanned and can't even play CZN to begin with.
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>>547619247
in the game its translated as "get +8% crit rate"
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>>547619247
The in game translation makes it sound like the crit increase only applies to her.
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which one bros
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Hmmm my beryl retain with 3x hidden bullet and opening shot are getting raped by 9/9 crab. Maybe the yui mika team isnt right with her for that
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Decisions, decisions.This, or Orlea with double Will of Light, two Creatures, two Attack! and one 0ap Retain any card?
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>>547619721
it's a delete this card from your deck angle
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>>547619721
3rd one but the ideal is to remove it, it sucks lol
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>get bored of winning with mei, nica, and mika
>try out nia, beryl, and yuki on merely difficulty 8 tier 13
>get utterly demolished and every small battle takes 3x as long
Wow... why bother with anything else outside of MoC? Is Cassius or a double support non sub dps a requirement to haul Yuki's fat ass?
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>>547619721
1 and never play it. 3 if you want to try and squeeze value out of it, but it's going to be a brick more often than you get use out of it.
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Weird that prydw*n has the correct "6% crit for all allies" text if the in-game description is mistranslated.
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>>547619931
>Beryl
She's a dead weight in that team though.
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>>547617261
If you get the middle with AP reduction divine epiphany you won the lottery because it's 3 turns of free max reload, and 5 triggers on Rising Dragon if used with Mei Lin, otherwise there isn't an epiphany that particularly stands out
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>>547619721
Right is basically free healing +2 decibel. It activates when you don't pick it with Nia's curiosity, for example.
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>>547619931
>m*i
you didnt even try to beat the game
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>>547620037
This is in-game
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Why do we hate Haru
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>>547620240
sexy fat girl
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Why do we love Haru
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>>547620236
Yeah it just makes me wondering where they are getting their data from.
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>>547618184
Never nerf in a gacha bro, especially a pve one, that's a recipe for EOS. Just use that powerlevel as the baseline of the game, dogeza and suck the cock of everyone that rolled Yuki, and buff her to that baseline.
It's that simple.
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>>547620240
i cant grope her
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I've been running Spark of Passion on Mei Lin, but is it better to just run her with the generic 2/2/2 setup? I keep forgetting to check my log when I get her Rising Dragon combo going to make sure that I'm not wasting my "enhanced Passion damage" on Unity/Aromanta/Veronica's Repose, etc.
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>>547620275
sexy fat girl
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>>547620275
I think some people here just like schoolgirl outfits.
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I'm starting to think Yuki isn't getting buffed...
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>>547619585
>>547619630
lol so google translator does a better job than whatver the fuck they used.
grim
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>>547620338
2/2/2 is better yeah she eats through the Passion set too fast
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>>547620240
I love my Cow.
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>>547620192
Kek. I already have though. Aside from getting all the worlds to 30 and for whatever reason having to clear all the codices difficulties one by one, I've already bulldozed all of the available content. But all I do is use my main team outside of whatever filler I find for the MoC. I haven't bothered with a different team in Chaos in forever. Was curious how it would go. It didn't. Lesson learned.

>>547620075
They honestly all feel underwhelming compared to my main team. AP generation and heals, OTK combowombo, AoE ballista... that's just too much value. It turns everything into a joke.
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>>547620506
Damn, figured. I've been in denial because I didn't want to farm a whole new set, but I'm sure eventually a character will come out that appreciates it. Thanks.
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>>547620640
Veronica uses the passion set, unless you already have one for her.
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Haru isn't a cow...
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>>547620448
The moment they saw those le ebin 100 stack morale ebin Yuki showcase bideos, it was already over
These retarded monkey devs are turning Yuki to Haru 2.0 but 10x weaker than the original
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>>547620448
They already said they're investigated her lesser used epiphanies and possibly turning those into single-target epiphanies. Her obviously nerfed -20% damage (it's actually more than -20% because it's multiplicative on 2 hits) that you need her e1 to fix is staying, however.
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>>547620674
My Vero was running 2/2/2 so I guess I could just swap them around. I'm sure I'll still have to farm something, but one or two pieces is a whole lot better than four.
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Is this data set good enough to bake the crab? I don't want to go back into the mines...
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>>547617694
Tressa needs 2 babysitters and 2 turns of setup to be good. Yuki can do everything on her own on turn one.
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>>547620571
>combowombo
Why would anyone purposely mess this up?
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>>547620676
shut up and eat cake
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I don't get it, was I meant to kill them in 2 turns or what's the play here
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>>547621002
bwo? you have yuki just oneshot them with your crazy value aoe?
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>>547620890
Not having 0 cost on Aromanta and/or Jewel is gonna hurt, but depending on your support that may not be an issue.
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>Haru and Maribell on my team
>Rachel as partner
Go big or go home
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>>547620890
I don't know
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>>547617347
Tressa without heal daggers is honest. Tressa with heal daggers is one of the most broken characters in the game, maybe even *the* single most broken character.
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>>547620676
>
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>>547621002
You just got unlucky with all 3 of them attacking 2 turns in a row.
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>>547621002
>He actually thinks that Yuki can clear these trash mobs with her shit ass damage
Lmao
He believed the monkey devs
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>>547621002
These fuckers are a nightmare to fight at high levels
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the devs are gods. they are right... yuki is perfectly fine... shut up...!!!
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>>547621002
>>>Y*ki
Unfortunately, if you want AoE DPS, you're gonna have to use someone like Mei Lin or Rin who can delete single mobs with 1 card, and then you just use 3 cards to delete all the mobs "AoE".

Yuki is not the best AoE DPS in the game unless we start getting wave defense mode where every single wave is 5 mobs.
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>>547621002
tfw you would've cleared this easily with a single target dps by killing them one by one and healing with mika
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>>547621002
Nah, these guys are just cunts. I wish they behaved more like the floating hand elites where they're hard coded to alternate between their buff and their attack, because sometimes they can just decide to go balls to the wall and delete your run.
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>Tressa abuser defending her
Kek, the same people that say Yuki is fine btw. Reminds me of the retards posting 9/9 E0 Yuki clears and then their decks is >
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When is Adelheid?
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>>547621147
SEGGS
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>>547621147
This image smells
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>>547621147
architectGODS
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>>547606329
Those are the burning normals and elites.
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>>547618609
>>547602117
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>>547621116
i like to copy her vital attack card for insane nuking or shadow reload but with the discard epi since i run her with kayron for 8+ daggers, not a fan of heal meme
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First time getting the negative modifications for chaos, which one are considered easy/good?
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>game is trivial until you get 2 shot right as you mindbreak
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>>547621002
Internal data shows that Yuki already performs well in battles against two or more enemies,
so simply increasing her numerical values was deemed to carry a high risk of overbalancing the Agent.
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>>547621002
Anon clearly the devs stated that Yuki can solo those 3 with her aoe cards
Skill issue I guess LMAO
GET FUCKED RETARD
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What’s with rajeesh cuckposting with Rin did he eat too much dogshit today?
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>>547621002
Why is your HP so low and theirs so high?
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I just had the worst run I've ever played. Literally every single epiphany was dogshit, a complete joke of a run. At least it can't get any worse.
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>>547621793
Beautiful.
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>>547621002
Some fights are clearly unbalanced. What are you supposed to do against 4 mobs that tank, buff, and deal huge damage? They should at least have low HP and low defense, but they’re TANKY, they hit HARD, and there are FOUR of them. What are you even supposed to do besides open your ass wide and accept the gangbang?
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>>547621959
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>>547621793
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>>547621959
For the bugs, you just use Khalipe and it's over. No such luck for Yuki.
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>itt /czn/ exposes their garbage gear and potentials
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>>547621748
->ess credits is salvageable by getting credits from ? events instead
>+elite/boss hp/dmg is fine too.
>-%hp per turn is negligible.
>-% max health is 'fine' if it's not -40% or -50% health.
stacking damage and defense is NOT good.
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>>547621748
More elites
Fury every 3 turns
Fury when enemies die
Reduced credit gain from combat
Gangrene - lose hp (based on max hp) each turn
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>>547621959
My Yuki would easily win.
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>>547610865
>he doesn't know about Limbus Company's 6 or 7 nerf dramas
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>>547621782
lol
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>>547622125
Khalipe has element advantage over bugs, it's just a planet catered to her. AOE and on type. Yuki has no such benefit here.
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>>547622435
Yup.
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>>547621147
the perfect female form
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>it's a"you don't draw enough attack cards and that one monster with the tentacle arm one one shots your entire squad because you weren't able to deal enough damage" episode
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>>547622214
>>-% max health is 'fine' if it's not -40% or -50% health.
it is fine until one of your character mindbreaks and you have to tank a powerful attack.
manageable affix but the game can easily fuck you
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Chorizo needed the void advantage more than Yuki, pls undastand
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>>547618406
>>547602329
SAAAAAR
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>>547622662
>release her undertuned but it's masked by the extra damage from void weakness
devilish move by the devs
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>>547622662
>Chorizo needed the void advantage more than Yuki, pls undastand
God fucking help us if this is true. Jesus Christ. I wouldn't be surprised though. This entire Season is a victim of the free gibs.
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>>547619881
>>547620027
>>547620096
didn't have enough points to remove it but still pretty happy with this
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>>547621002
Internal data shows that Yuki already performs well in battles against two or more enemies,
so simply increasing her numerical values was deemed to carry a high risk of overbalancing the Agent.
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>>547622674
Africa makes sense, but why are so many objectively small-dicked SEAfags obsessed with BBC? And where did this come from? Surely these people don't want you to know that a small-dicked homosexual Indian man is running all the BBC accounts.
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>>547621002
Yeah but how would Kayron clear it?
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I give up
I can't beat crab 9, I'll stop at 8
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>>547621002
Lucas would've cleared
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Rinbros, what do I need to beat the Crab 9 with her? I am preparing Tressa but I also want to beat that content with Rin if possible.
I know to build her deck I need to:
>get rid of the shield card
>get the Move 2
>preferentially clone Move 2
I assume the Advanced Sword card that multihits on stance can work either with +100% damage epiphany or the Minus 1 cost for comboing. But don’t know much else.
Additionally I have no idea the team mean tto use her. I have Orlea but no idea how to use Orlea nor the epiphanies to seek.
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>>547620963
Anon, stop being autistic. There's no one right way to say it.
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>>547622628
read usogui
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>>547623173
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>>547621002
I know which hard stage is that, and that's funny because I clearead with that exact team (had to reset a lot though)
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>>547623094
Your Meironica?
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You also called Rin bad, look how that turned out.
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>>547623264
why is every fucking deck just spam 0 cost cards
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>>547623094
What team are you using?
He's not that hard.
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>>547623094
https://youtu.be/TbrxrbWuweg?si=CNCoBAn2FrJCJjMx
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>>547623264
Does this bitch just have insane frags? How is she hitting so hard?
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>>547623194
>There's no one right way to say it.
Ah, so you didn't purposely mess it up. You're just a newfag. There is indeed only one correct way to say it, unless you're a newfag and/or zoomer, which what you have accidentally revealed yourself to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_imYhNoQ4
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>>547623446
>rin is good after she yoinks everything that was supposed to make yuki good
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>>547623450
Because free is the best flavor.
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>>547623314
Yeah, but I can't loop Mei Lin enough I don't know what I'm doing wrong
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>>547622990
Cause their women are ugly and white women are statistically the least to date outside their race despite the bbc spamming Indians. Also Indians are like the least desirable or something so they get extra mad.
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>>547623490
How did you not see the 10 morale buff?
Every characters in this game can get fixed by spamming morale and vuln
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>>547623264
I can’t read any of that
>>547623490
NTA but her final potential increases Crit Chance based on her ATK stat. She crits consistently after that since you will have two stats contributing to it
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>>547623465
>need 3 shadow reload
come on now, nta we all know that's not low effort
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>>547623490
Multihits
Also you get a lot of crit% from her potentials alone, which makes it desirable to get a crit dmg as a mainstat
And unlike Y*ki, Rin actually has a way to get her 2 most valuable cards right to your hand. You can dupe it over and over and deal +15 hits FOR FREE
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>>547623537
Anon, stop being retarded. Words change all the time. It doesn't matter if you say wombo combo or combo wombo, the meaning remains the same unless you're autistic beyond belief that such a pointless detail triggers you so much. Go touch grass.
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>>547623450
We need an actual time eater or infinite attacker every 3+ actions
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>>547623898
Shut the fuck up, you ignorant zoomer newfag.
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>>547623465
Tried that too, but my Tressa has only two reloads, so it doesn't work
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>>547623264
>muddled through crab with hugo
>haven't minmaxed a single deck
will I be left behind bros?
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>>547623490
>>547623771
Her attack skill had +2 morale epipi, every time she COOMboed she became stronger.
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Yuki needs crit potential instead of useless basic attack damage boost
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>>547624030
No crab will still be around for like 7 weeks
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Imagine how bad the Yuki shitposting will get if the rebalanced epiphanies and new aoe content hit and she's still not top dog in those.
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>>547623951
Man, you are stupid beyond belief. Go suck on a door knob, retard. I'll use the words however the fuck I want and you can't change that. Deal with it.
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i just want more hot women in the game dont care about other changes
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>>547623690
Honestly Mei Lin isn't the main battery for the ORAORAORAORA attack, Veronica is. The 2 cost dragon spire that gets 1 hit for every passion card used also counts for any character, not just Mei Lin. So Veronica spams a bunch of low cost / zero cost cards and juices up the kick. Mei Lin can help too of course with the unity of attack and defense, but honestly Veronica is the main reason why Mei Lin can so easily and effectively reach the 10, 15, 20+ hit dragon spires.
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>>547624221
If you want everyone to know that you're an ignorant zoomer newfaggot, then sure, keep saying things wrong.
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do they specify anywhere what are basic common and unique cards for the potentials?
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>>547624154
by simply existing Khalipe will already shit on her. devs are retarded if they think that her kit is fine.
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>>547623450
they kind of fucked up with the 0,1,2 cost meta, all those numbers are way too close to 0. You'd think they'd have more of a chance of balancing this shit if we have 3-7 cost cards and 10 ap.
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>>547623450
This is all a consequence of designing endgame content to be time attacks.
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>>547624154
If the enemies are green she'll look good. If they're not (they wont be) she'll still seem mid.
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>>547624154
They'll eventually have to introduce a selector for the standard banner with which we'll choose the character we want to get. People will be able to get Yuki if they make her good, either during a rerun when double or triple banners become a thing or with the selector.
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>>547623173
>Spam crits with the forbidden card and annihilation
>recycle
>win
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>>547623690
"easiest" way is with dupes of this card
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>>547624296
It's a made up phrase. I remade it. You don't like it? Oh no, that's too bad. I don't care. I accept your concession, now fuck off.
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On whomst?
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>>547624745
looks like a support item
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>>547624284
Just wait until they release a SSR Passion support that's as good or better than Mika.
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>>547624154
Haru is unironically a much better aoe than her
She can epi her 2cost aoe with a combo epi that reduces its cost by 1 or make it activate twice so long as you kill something. What's even better is that Haru's aoe deals more damage than Yuki's "aoe" cards
Literally miles better than what Yuki can and could ever hope to do
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>>547624673
>I remade it.
You didn't "remake" anything. You mistakenly said a meme incorrectly because you're a zoomer newfaggot. Or, if I'm being very generous, you had no idea where the term came from, and every single time you've heard the phrase before, you thought people were just making it up when they actually weren't. I'm happy to have educated you though, I just wish you would have taken it more in stride, but you're a zoomer and being humble isn't really your generation's forte.
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>>547624745
Nia or Rei, but Nia as she has a spot open
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https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant/1028
>The dude behind this made it even better
Kino.
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>>547624865
mei lin really is the best character in the game huh, at that point you don't even need her stupid basic skills spam, you just dupe spire with the -1 cost div while veronica and the passion sup spams cards
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>>547624745
On the character you're building a deck for obviously.
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>>547625112
>no faint memory calc
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>>547624745
Are you looking for good save data? That's one of the best trinkets you can get. Depends who you're building. If this is a casual run slap it on K-On. If you're building save data, put it on whomever that is because you cannot guarantee something better.
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>>547624154
>still not top dog in those
>If AoE character isn’t good at single-target damage like Rin, a character whose entire kit is built for single-target, I’m going to get mad
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>>547625176
The top tier performance is the price people pay for the hell of epiphany rng.
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>>547624849
>>547624979
>>547625216
>>547625274
I put it on Nia. Let's hope her epiphanies are good this run.
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>>547624973
tl;dr
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>>547622990
Same reason anyone else interacts with India. Lot's of very poor people who will happily work shitty jobs for low pay because it is still better than their local alternatives. If you want to spam something on social media, it makes sense to go where you can hire the most people for the least money.
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>>547625176
Unless they introduce a mechanic that will cockblock her combo or worse yet nerf her with a combo limit, this will undoubtedly become the staple cookie cutter for a good time.
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Rin Sig partner or Orlea Sig partner?
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>>547623256
I already read it 3 times bro. I was at the edge of my seat during Air Poker
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finally, fucking bitch ass faggot
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>>547626079
just be yourself
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>>547595924
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGA
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>>547626439
I like them both and equally…
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>>547625347
>>If AoE character isn’t good at single-target damage like Rin, a character whose entire kit is built for single-target, I’m going to get mad
The reality is that, in most situations, Rin is already a better AoE DPS than Yuki because she deals lots of single target damage. Yuki isn't even the best single target damage dealer, really. Hell, a beefed up Veronica Giant Ballista can do the same AoE damage you might get in a less than optimal Yuki hand.
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>>547626257
>Luscus
Who?
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>>547623173
I'm finding it really painful desu. cannot get consistent draw working with rin+orlea no matter who my third is.
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>>547626079
Rin sig is good on most of the strikers. Orlea sig is just for herself. I have orlea sig and I don't feel like it's particularly impactful. Her retain damage pops are only like 20 damage per card on a noncrit with an 800 attack build, and the ego skill isn't gamechanging
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Nia won't leave me alone and now I have her ego maxed out.
How am I supposed to build her and who does she work well with? She seems to want to discard stuff, so i thought of pairing her with renoa.
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Came back to 4chan to post in this general after longer absence but shouldn't BBC posting be bans?
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I assume there is a translation issue with one of these because it sounds like they do exactly the same thing with the left having better numbers. Anyone know what is going on here?
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so when does the nipple pastie woman in the OP get added to the gacha?
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>>547627385
I assume right means it applies to any attack card, not just Beryls
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>>547627358
Tranny jannies like it so
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Is now a good time to start? Is rerolling easy to do?
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>>547627537
probably December 2nd
she should be the next banner
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>>547627868
Buy an account. Rerolling takes 20 minutes and I don't even know if you still get the free gibs (~90 rolls)
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>>547627868
Rerolling takes like 15-25~ mins depending on if you're using the end turn tech and stuff on the scripted loss fights. Buying an account would be better as another suggested, though I know some people are wary of that it would ultimately be cheaper and faster.
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>>547627868
A little late ngl, a lot of things happened last month
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>>547627868
you missed all the dramagibs
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>>547623173
I killed it with this deck, pretty happy with it, a shame that the 2 vuln on drawing slash was removed on save
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>>547624471
25% damage isn't enough to save her bro.
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>look up crab 9/9 guide for certain combatants because i'm bad
>all the videos shown are E5 combatants with 90% crit chance and 250% damage memory fragments, with 0 ap cost divine 1draw repose veronica + 1 morale giant ballista upgrade
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>>547629203
Seems easy enough. What's the problem?
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>>547629203
Now you understand why the rest of us used tressa or mei lin.
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>>547625415
Cut my life into pieces...
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>>547629203
Now you understand why the dev make Melin busted she is for people like us who has no time to grind, I only need 3 Unity on MeiLin to clear endgame content
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>>547629653
>she is for people like us who has no time to grind
doesn't stop people from moaning about how meilin is impossible to build with her exodia deck
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In the policy office, does the newest policy sit on top? I'm at D-4 and the game is spamming me with a stat I already have too much of. I'm wondering if I can just wait it out.
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>On turn 1 Draw 2 and +1 AP
Is there a better combination of relics for a support?
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What's reasonable crit chance 40-50%?
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>>547627385
Yeah it's just bad translation.
Left Korean text is $실드$ #result_coeff_ev_0#<br>다음 사용하는 자신의 공격 카드 피해량 +#cs_ev_1_0#%

Right Korean text is $실드$ [fc]#result_coeff_pct_off_ev_0#[/]%<br>다음 사용하는 [fc]공격 카드[/] 피해량 +#cs_ev_1_0#%

Notice that the left card has an additional "공격 " ("Own") in the text before the "공격 카드" ("Attack Card")
I don't even know Korean but even I can tell when a card doesn't have certain characters that the other card doesn't have. A Korean translator would have noticed the difference 100%.
And would you know it, MTL struggles with noticing the extra "공격".
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>>547629175
Damage plus tenacity damage for AP, would help a bit.
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>Run is going great with all the epipis I need
>Dragon Spire epipi
>None of the ones I need when I'm already super deep in the run

Let the suffering end.
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>>547629653
Mei Lin is the ultimate grind character, tf you talking about? She needs 1 select epiphany on 2 cards plus copies. 3 if you want the Aromata boost.
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>>547630493
>>547629653
All you need is unity bwo :^)
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>>547630318
Oops I copied the wrong Korean text. "Own" is "자신의" not "공격"
So the main difference is that the left card text is written as "사용하는 자신의 공격 카드" ("Using own attack card") while the right card text is simply written as "사용하는 공격 카드" ("Using attack card")
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>>547630318
It's not entirely MTL, some actual person is going in and inputing the text. That's how there's so many spelling errors that AI would never make on simple shit.
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>>547630318
I figured it would either be that or an additive vs multiplicative thing. So the right one actually does have a use if Beryl is functioning as a sub-dps. Good to have confirmation, thanks.
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>>547630895
There was an actual person involved but I bet the person was only editing the translation, and they are using MTL as their base. A human Korean translator working on Beryl's epiphanies certainly would pick up on the difference from the start.
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Still can't beat Judas even level 50, even though I have 12 level 50-60 combatants and partners including most of the 5*. No idea what I'm doing wrong, I guess my builds are shit.
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>>547629363
yup I don't wanna burn out making a good new seasonal deck for the less broken characters every 3 months.
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>>547631340
Just do piercing ballista bro
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>>547631340
You don't have good enough memory fragments
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>>547623921
There's already an enemy that gains sturdiness every time it gets hit. Just slap that mechanic on a boss.
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>>547631340
Memory fragments.
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>>547631340
Potentials and memory frags
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I've been playing so long that I'm getting pissed getting rid of the same cards over and fucking over again and again.
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>>547631489
>>547631534
>>547631654
It's true that these are little bit below par, they take ages to farm and increase level past 3, but level 50 shouldn't be that hard for level 60 combatants with level 60 partners and rank 3 gold gear. I have mostly good Potentials.

>>547631479
When I use Veronica I'm running the 50% chance to create a second Ballista plus a Divine Epiphany for Morale and Resolve.
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>>547630503
she needs 0 divinities to beat crab. would love to see anyone else beat crab with 0 divinities 0 forbidden.

>>547631340
you need to observe his mechanics. theyre pretty elaborate. specifically when the counter goes up and what the punish is in each phase.
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Does this also work on extra attacks? Seems like it could be an alternative to Second Method for Beryl if so.
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>>547631340
play dishonestly, it's what judas would want
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>>547631340
You're supposed to end your turn early sometimes so he doesn't gain 15 stacks.
On his shield turns he won't go above 5 stacks so you can combo his ass to oblivion then.
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I think Veronica is the real T0 over Hugo and Tressa
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>>547631698
>>547631745
I have been avoiding surpassing his action count except on shield turns but it's still not even really close. I have tried with Haru, Veronica, Magna, Mika, Amir, and Mei Lin, and no combination gets me close.
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>>547631838
calm down Lisara
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>>547626254
based usogui enjoyer
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>>547631698
Divinities are a luxury on most characters, same with Mei a good boost but not required. Dodging 8 out of 2 epiphanies, or 12 out of 3 if you want Aromata, is still insanity.
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>Missing Renoa, Kayron and Hugo
Should I pick the furry or Renoa with the selector, or perhaps go all in on Rinwife from e2 to e4?
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>>547631340
Judas phase 1 gets stacks after acting, and will do a strong attack and build no stacks the next turn if he reaches 5 stacks.
Judas phase 2 instapunches at 5 stacks, but stops gaining stacks for the rest of the turn after.
You want to get him to 5 stacks in phase 1, end, and then spam cards on the next turn when he doesn't build stacks. Try to get him low but not kill. Then kill him next turn (since the heavy attack turn will remove his pahse stacks) before he can build stacks.
In phase 2 you just burn and want to be strong enough to tank 2 hits per turn. You can try to play around not triggering his stacks if you're really weak but it probably won't go well unless you have low card count high impact plays like Khalipe or Haru or something.
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>>547631824
yes. she is the character you by default use to carry any other character no questions asked. any team comp that doesnt want veronica is doing something very specific. what really solidifies for me is how unreasonable giant ballista is.
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>>547631691
Level is important but you really need decent memory fragments especially on your DPS. Judas is a DPS check unless you can heal/shield 200-300+ per turn consistently.
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>>547632225
I don't think it's even her damage, the fact that she does free damage (and a very good amount) is just a bonus.
She's a character who's deck is 3 upgrades and 2 pot of greed, and can easily be turned into 3 upgrades and 4+ pot of greed, which means after 1 go through the deck she's just free damage and incredibly draw value without clogging the deck.
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I just spent 10 stamina refills grinding EXP tickets until I realized I was out of money
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>>547632440
no content or tax rebates for 10 days, just STOP PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME HOLY SHIT
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Yuki won bigly
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>>547632440
no refunds
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>>547632116
Why give a fuck about Rin when a better void striker drops in some days?
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>>547632116
Hugo
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>>547632650
Someone said they reworked her into a vanguard
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>>547632650
>better
haha...
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>>547632650
Chizuru is a vanguard, and Rin is still very good.
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they're lowering the cost for leveling but potentials will stay the same and those are expensive as fuck too
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>>547632775
promotions are also staying the same
>incoming posts with wtf why is this still 500k
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>>547632775
How long until this update drops? I need my gold refund already.
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>>547632440
at least you have the xp now
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>>547632775
the unit price isnt all that much. they do take forever to farm tho.
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>>547632956
two weeks
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>>547632440
You need 16-17 stamina refills worth of gold alone to fully level a character.
Just wait for the patch. To put it in perspective, the amount of gold you need to level someone from level 1 to 60 after the patch is LESS than the amount of gold you need to go from level 55 to 60 right now.



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