Space Book Edition>Update 11.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/296-patch-notes-11-0>November Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/308-november-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB (embed)Previously on the Battle-barge: >>549614185
The Iron Hands run this general.
>>550523768Fuck those technoheretics.
Imperial Fists are piss drinkers!
>>550524710As a staunch Iron Hand hater, their disregard for tech dogma is based.
>>550523768>*ruinftfy Brother
How the actual fuck are you guys doing damage to this fucking heldrake.Do I unironically need to stack meltas on top of it?
>>550527094To add, I ran the mission with Tactical's auxpex perks for 75% and 120% more damage amplification but even then that couldn't beat out the sheer amount of health the heldrake had. What in the actual fuck? Wasn't the first 75% supposed to cancel out the stratagem condition penalty of 75%?
>long as fuck in-game events with tons of dead time>you still take damage despite it being unavoidablenice!
>>550527641Completely intentional with the sheer amount of waiting for dialogue to end in Reliquary.You are GUARANTEED to start the fight against the heldrake with the entire squad at 30% health.
>>550527518>Wasn't the first 75% supposed to cancel out the stratagem condition penalty of 75%?hahahahawhy would saber ever do that?
Fuck it, looks like you can power fist the heldrake still. Might as well run the normal stratagem to confirm myself before running it in Hard.
>>550529060You can but only from 2 specific positions, the closest ones on the right side (correspondent to the drake's left side from his pov)
post yfw an Xbox sniper joins the team
Fortifying this thread.
Been playing this game for 10-ish hours. Can i just say either make it so that all parriable attacks have blue indicators or none of them do. Mixing them just add confusion and does nothing in helping players to learn the game. There should be at least an option to turn off blue indicators entirely in options.
>>550527518>>550528049Are you going to blame Saber for being mouthbreathers as well?Please look at this image and explain why a ranged debuff past 10 meters, and a ranged buff inside 10 meters would affect each other.
>>550530649Reading is not your strong suit is it?
>>550530649Read my post again slowly.I had a Tact perk that said 75% more damage.
>>5505308120.25 x 1.75 = 0.475
>>550530649retard lmao
>>550530307Hold up. Where's that from?
>>550534787Total War trailer
>>550530812That's not how it works.1 - 75% = 0.250.25 + 75% = 0.475You're still dealing less than half your base damage with Auspex.
>>550529826Get gud
spess mahreens
Twice now my teammates have died failing to dodge a helbrute AOEHow are people this bad?
>>550549930only 20% of the playerbase has completed mission on ruthlesshalf the operations playerbase is actually just bad at the game and we have to suffer them still trying to get that extra 50 blue triangles
>Assault with 10% CDRAre you fucking serious
>The heldrake has the last quarter of its health left and the vanguard steps out of cover to eat all of its fire breathWhat the fuck are these people on to make these decisions
Iron Lords are pretty cool
>>550555361>shark like xenoswe need those in the game m8
>>550555361these niggas wearin thigh highs
>>550530307God-Emperor I miss fighting orks. I know people say they're overdone but fuck me if they aren't fun to fight and kill. Big screaming retards with scrap metal and everything is chaotic and fun. Chaos sucks, nids are fun, truth be told, but give me greenskins to murder.
>>550555773>playing space marine 4 in the future>gashunk
>>550555773All of the barghesi are contained within the grendl stars>>550556223And?
Sanctified Wrath relic actually helped deal more damage to heldrake.
>>550529060>>550529236Can confirm. You only really have a chance to get two off if you charge absolutely asap, but you can contrubute a nice chunk of damage to the heldrake per activation as assault with charged fists.>1st attempt I respawn timer'd right before the last load out pod>salamiggers started the heldrake without me>couldn't change to the fist>stuck with a chainsword and inferno pistol for the entire heldrake section>kept drowning in chaos spawn>stuck watching the salamander heavy easily carry us by just spamming his heroic plasma at everythingFeels fuckin' bad, man.Also fuck this AI director. When it spawns enlightenment tzangors, it spawns like 50 of them consecutively.
>>550529283literally doesn't matter. this is a console shooter, everyone's carried by autoaim anyway.
>Inferno except it's abysmal dogshit
>>550569491Time for Bulwark to shine I guess
>>550569491>intelligence lapse finally gives an opportunity for the chaos maps to show how good they could be with a good enemy faction on them>every time I've checked for stratagems to play since it released, it has only showed up on tyranid missions or vox liberatis (no real change)I really wish the devs would figure out how annoying and bad chaos is to play against compared to tyranids and that the solution to that isn't to force us to fight them anyways but to fix them
>>550571178What problems does Chaos have aside from terminator missiles being the worst thing to dodge in the game?
>>550527094Put Melta bomb in the center, hit an auspex and then detonate.The Heldrake is harmless, its the spawns and mobs that are dangerous and must be dealt with before the puzzles.If there are no Melta bomb spawns, throw Kraks after an auspex. Barring that, pelt the Heldrake with heavy bolt pistol fire.
>>550572270- Teleports- Chaos spawn aoe range being much bigger than the visual effects- Chaos marines instant ring of fire damage- Chaos marines point blank shooting you with their bolter (this also applies to enraged nid warrior burst fire to be fair)- Helbrutes charged plasma shot tracking- Frisbee riders going full sanic and constantly zipping around
>>550572270Teleporting away just to troll you out of CHP recovery and deny you the melee optionRubric melee attacks, when they actually deign to use them, are microscopic punts that are barely readable but somehow deal insane knockback and damageThe SFX is actually obnoxious, to the point where I can make it five more waves in siege before my computer starts breaking down if the final wave I face is tyranids that don't tank my FPSRanged spam, better after the chaos spawn were added but still absolutely awful when you're stuck trading poke shots with a horde of rubrics and cultists(Tyranids are much better at this because barbed strangler balls can be shot for a counter, venom cannons can be reliably dodged, and devourers are bursty and thus fair to sidestep/dodge even en masse, where as the bolter spam is more of a constant stream of bullets that can be hard to even spot sometimes)Helbrute is mostly fine unless it decides to rely on its plasma spam, where the charged shot is guaranteed damage taken at ranges closer than fuckoff hugeIt also can suffer from some wonky charges if its pathing gets messed upCultists offer no inherent way of recovering CHP or armour, making for awful-feeling situations when you have no armour and are faced with a bunch of themRanged terminatorsRanged terminatorsSorcerers are also annoying when they start sliding around without caring about your attempts to interrupt them and spam their high damage doomboltsTzaangors are way more prone to missing you if you parry but hitting you if you don't while you're moving than gaunts, and also don't take damage from majoris+ dying, so they are just a bit more annoying to deal withSmaller and less accessible headshot hitboxes, rendering bolter weapons barely usableChaos spawn and melee terminators are fun to fight. The rest of the faction ranges from passable to annoying to frustrating depending on enemy combination and situation.
>>550572270>no synaptic shock analogue>blobbed up Chaos Spawn are harder to read than groups of Warriors>previous issue is exacerbated by the fact that a lot of Chaos Spawn attacks don't have indicators and phase through everything, meaning random flailing limbs will lash out from this amorphous wall of flesh in front of you
>>550530307Man, we really got lucky with the gorgeous primaris models in space marine 2. Even tw40k went with GW's cartoon-style things. It's such a bummer, since you can just compare the top tier modeling on SM2's plasma pistol and whatever the fuck this is.
Heya, I'm still new with like 10-ish hours and have a few questionsShould I finish the campaign in its entirity first before doing any multiplayer? I've played the multiplayer a bit so far and gotten Assault up to like level 7 or something and it was pretty fun, even if like 3/5 games had level 25+ dudes just stomping shit inAs a follow-up, when should I move up in difficulty in the multiplayer? I've gone down like thrice in the campaign so far but haven't fully wiped, and I've not gone down in the multiplayer on the baby easy difficulty. I mostly just don't want to be a detriment to my team on higher levels with unupgraded gear and lacking skills.The combat is still a bit finnicky to get used to, especially parrying untelegraphed hits from both mooks and the slightly bigger enemies. Usually do fine but sometimes I just get molested missing a parry or two and lose 1/3 of my HP, especially to the whip motherfuckers and thousand sons. I guess that's just something I'll get used to though.Any overall tips on how to not suck?
>customizable heads are seperate dlc not unlocked by the season passGenuinely wtf is wrong with saber
>>550587394>Should I finish the campaign in its entirity first before doing any multiplayer?If you're enjoying it.>As a follow-up, when should I move up in difficulty in the multiplayer? Once you can comfortably do missions without even going down.>Any overall tips on how to not suck?When in doubt (especially while facing multiple majoris/extremis enemies in melee) dodge instead of parry OR parry, dodge and then gunstrike. Also dodging out of the way is much safer than trying to parry again if you mess up against whip warriors.
>not even some bonus blue doritos for christmas
THE SHIT THAT I'M POSTING ON VOXTHEY TELLING ME RUSS DON'T SAY THAT
>>550587394>Any overall tips on how to not suck?Practice in operations until you're comfortable on at least substantial difficulty, until you collect enough Armory Data things to level your weapons up through purple tier. Then try ruthless difficulty for the relic Armory Data + its good experience in general. Also when you're playing operations, specifically stratagems - don't pick anything that says "hard mode" until you have at least one class max level and prestige 4 & full leveled relic tier weapons!
Why is their lead designer literally retarded?
>>550600940>lightning claws confirmed not happeningAbsolute faggot.
>>550600940>not one option to add specific loadouts per wearpon>not one option to add more prestige perks without leveling up again>no option to filter low level, non-maxed prestige shitters>still denying the player better bots>still denying players Deathwatch cosmetics even though Primaris ones have debuted for months already>still won't work on Valtus attacking Terminus and Extremis enemies first as well as giving him the option to also revive downed players>still won't buff Assault>all players ask is to show their teammates' armour tabs so they can shame them for execute spammingGames Workshop, take SM3 from these slav devs and give it to Creative Assembly.
>>550600940>we're not going to do these because uhh>umm>uhhhh>WE JUST WON'T OKAY??!!!?!?actually die you fucking niggers, holy shit
>>550600940>BA pauldron responsethis cannot be real. I cannot imagine a reason for this being hard to do.
>>550600940What a bunch of horse crap. At this point I would nuke them and nothing of value would have been lost. Where is this compilation from btw?
>Alongside patch 12 comes new DLC content: a pack of heads & voices based on the Blood Angels, Black Templars and Space Wolves chapters. It will include over 450 voicelines – localized in all existing languages – per Chapter, including unique lines based on the Chapter (for example, the Space Wolf will shout “For the Allfather” instead of the usual “For the Emperor”) and your Space Marine will shout these new lines. I FUCKING TOLD YOU NIGGERS
The entire community update:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/328-december-community-update
>>550603986god I hate space wolves so much
>>550600940The fucking audacity to go "teehee maybe in the future we'll think about it:3c" on the Dreadnought targeting Terminus first
>>550600940>We do not simply ctrl+c / ctrl+v a pauldronThey did this with the molecular bolt shoulder by the way. It's literally the same shoulder copy/pasted to the other side, it has the exact same dents and scratches.
>>550603986But do these work with helmets on? Kinda cringe if the only way to get these lines is to have the unique faces.
>>550604108>Contested Health rebalance will happen alongside with Patch 13, but there are going to be a lot of minor QoL improvements before that to build a proper foundation first.Boy oh boy, how are they going to fuck this up I wonder.
>An iconic character from the Campaign will come backCalgar?
>>550605117Probably the Poojeet.
>>550605428She's not iconic
>>550600940>can't use non-primaris deathwatch armor from the campaign cause it's non primaris>meanwhile there's three different MK8 helmets now>two different MK7 helmets>two different MK6 helmets>several MK6 pauldrons>MK2 gauntlets and grieves>multiple bolting stud pauldrons and a grieve coming with the RG champ>carchardon pack'll probably come with MK5 armor
>>550605578I think you're getting your hopes up if you're expecting Calgar.
It's going to be Chaplain Leandros, they're going to tease him as the next class.Calgar does not need to be on Avarax and Captain Scotland is always stuck on the battle barge, only fighting in Demerium in the end.
>>550603986So this soft confirms class restrictions being lifted?>>550605117>>550605428>>550605654>>550605729Bros we already know its Valtus. We got the entire mission dialogue shared with us.
>>550605914Lame, we already have dreadnought sections in Fall of Atreus.
>>550605650Small indie dev team please understand. It doesn't match their vision please understand. GW said no please understand. It messes with class readability please understand. It would take too much time to port the armor please understand. >>550605914It comes across more like it's "Here's a head with a bunch of voice lines associated with it that replaces your helmet"
>>550605023They will increase contested health regain from melee attacks by 0.5% and decrease it by 90% for ranged weapons.
What a nightmare class lineup
Wake up honey, sabre just go the funding for the next seasons of space marine 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qerr0roEDGA
>>550613732Good for them I guess? Didn't know anyone still played that game or cared about the walking dead anymore.
>>550600940Because the SM2 community is retarded. If they had taste, and didnt like getting scammed, SM2 post release dlc would have flopped as it should justifiably done and he would have gotten fired.
>>550603986>Was right about the heads>Was right about turrets being map placedToo many retards here
>>550612840If assault and bulwark have power fists or at least swaps the loadout before the heldrake then they have a good shot at damage.
>>550603986if the blood angel doesnt have a thicc italian accent, the wolf not a nordic one and the templar not a german one I AM GONNA RIOT
>terminator immediately drop focus on another teammate for me while i'm charging an attack on a different enemyWhat the fuck is this shit? Do they have some kind of retarded hidden mechanic that enemies make you an instant high priority while doing a charge attack of any kind?
>>550601687>take SM3 from these slav devsThat is impossible. Once you give something to r*ssia, it is gone forever, similar to giving it to ch*na.
>>550603986so; team Edward; team Jacob and team DEUS VULT
>>550620963china gets me cheap recasts on time at least
>>550621317Russia is essentially china, but even more entitled and lazy.
>>550616096That "space wolf" is just going to sound like decimus, because it would be black erasure for a black character to not sound "audibly black".
>>550603986Already seeing the usual shiteating suspects running interference for the son of Fenrizizzle the moment someone so much as raises an eyebrow.
>>550622618I hate the now.
>>550624171what lobby is this?
Lmao @ assaultkeks who said jump pack dash shouldn’t use a charge
>>550624796Really they should just delete the class and make a popup saying "Play Vanguard instead." when you try to click on it.
>>550624171Is this still up?
>>550624550Random Absolute mission(s?) I think.>>550625341yea
>>550625778I got kicked
>>550625945oh I assume you were a random cause you didn't say anything lmao. can you rejoin?
>>550626048I was just trying to check if my loadouts are correct since I didn't know what mission you guys plan on running
>>550625945I got kicked too.>>550626048Nobody from /sm2g/ uses mics.Plus your code expired.
>>550626354Shalom should be a universal /sm2g/ password
>>550624796Literally all they have to do is put it on a separate cooldown from the actual jump to prevent you from spamming it.
>>550626354>micsI meant on the chat. Were you the PS4 guy? I though well there's surely no console fags here so I'm definitely kicking that one.Anyway. New code.
>>550626554Expired
>>550626354Also randoms can't join you unless you have an op/strat selected.>>550626048You can assume they're from /sm2g/ if they join you with nothing selected.
>>550626648nah somebody joined.>>550626729I see. thanks. haven't played in a long while so I don't really remember details like that.
>>550626554Yeah I'm a ps5fag.Stupid that consoles don't get text chat.
>>550626491I'd just make it cost no charge IF you are dodging an attack. And remove the perk that makes it cost no charge when perfect dodging. That way you would only be able to dash across the map if you are getting attacked.
>>550626919Just connect a keyboard to your PS5. I mean, Xbox can do it, so I'm sure nogames5 can too, right?
>>550627847You literally don't get to see the chatbox on console for some reason
>>550627847They literally are unable to see it at all
My bad.I got cornered by like 6 warriors and couldn't move.You both killed it.
>>550629965no worries. Neurothropes are always a bitch.
>>550624796The simplest solution that they could do is to just have the jump dash activate on perfect dodges the thing that ya know he has a passive for
>vox liberatis with switched enemies>decide to try out the shield charge thing>enemy teleportation on the lift>charge it to get ready for when they appear>it's a pack of spore mines>too late to redirect the charge>die
>>550612840last time i played this it was kino. bulwark (me) had no heal flag and thunder hammer, vanguard had one of the other non heal perks i forget which one, and assault had bonus damage vs extremis perk
>>550624796literally just refund it when he hits an enemy with the jump pack dodge attack. slavs are so fucking brain dead
>>550626554gg dudes. the nids didn't know what hit 'em.
Got N-2'd but you two beat the boss, GG
Wait a minute...Wouldn't shadow of the warp make the bio titan invisible unless it's shooting or someone constantly pings it?
How good will the tech marine be?
Is it true? We’re getting new head for different Chapters with their own voice lines?
>>550635313>>550635393GG.
>>550636634yea, there's a screenshot higher up>>550636656damn bro, I closed the lobby 15 minutes ago. did you just finish loading?
>>550636789That’s amazing.
>>550636656>tactical with 321 meleeliterally not a space marine
>>550603986BY THE BLOOD OF SANGUINIUS
>>550604108So we still have >1) Something we should have done a long time ago.and3) Something we said we are never going to do.
>>550603986That's so funny. Like, what are they doing there? I feel like the Black Templar would have an aneurysm stranded among the smurfs.
>>550636228The fog lifts once you enter the boss arena
>>550605650>several MK6 pauldronsThose are not actually MK6 pauldrons, Saber is just retarded and calls all Raven Guard pieces "MKVI Corvus" even though only the helmet is a MKVI.
>>550527850Bruh, just have your bulwark save his banner for all long talk moments.
Gee I wonder why? A mystery of the ages.
>>550605650>>550638540Even the helmets aren't mk6. All helmets except for mk8 use primaris helmet as a base, mirroring the way it is depicted on primaris miniatures. Ear bit is a dead giveaway, same for the back of the helmet.
>>550642228just walk behind it. redditors hate that they cannot kill the biovore from 100m away with a couple of charged plasma shots
>>550605650Every single piece of armour that is in the game is either a modified MKX (e.g. the bonding studs helmet), or a replica of/clearly heavily based on by something a primaris marine has had on the tabletop. Just to illustrate how hard they're sticking to it, the MK6 helmets have the curved ear muffs of primaris helmets rather than the angular ones on true classic beakies, just like the helmets in the raven guard primaris upgrade sprue.Can't tell you if it's on GW's orders or their own decision to stick to primaris equipment only, but they are holding true to it.
>>550642454Plasma cannon actually does kill it in 2-3 charged shots by shooting the gun from any distance thoueverest
>>550642454Not a reliable methodEven not counting that they might decide to run away early and force you to run even further, and that you're often not free to chase it because of all the other spawns, getting behind them does not force them to un-turret every time.Either way, poorly designed and boring enemy to fight. You can really tell they fucked up its design when it would genuinely be more fun to fight if it wasn't allowed to use its turret mode.
>>550643782>>550642454The head should just always be a weak spot, even when they are burrowed. They're basically invulnerable to a sniper
>>550636789I waited and prepped for one of you to load in in case you wanted to do another one, but they loaded for like 10 minutes straight, so I just disbanded.
>>550647001Heroic bolt sniper with block penetration sort of makes it a "weakpoint" but that's still abhorrent.
>>550603986>Black Templars and Space Wolves in the first packSputniks know their audience.
>>550647001It shouldn't be invulnerable when it's buried in the ground in the first place, the entire behavior around it is fucking retarded, when it gets to ignore player collision when it runs and just not take damage from any weapons other than plasma when it's hunkered down. At least it should take bonus damage from melee when it's hunkered down. Why can't I damage it or knock it out of the buried state with an assault ground pound?
You guys doing weeklies?
>>550657796I'm not bothering with the hard one this week. Doing the normal with pubs was horrendous enough as is.
Quickly dipping in, I have like a minute to post at best so can't read the thread. Saber has finally responded to the Modular Customization idea. Basically>Won't happen for Space Marine 2, too complicated and a lot of work (like several anons said here and got mocked for it)>Will be happening for Space Marine 3
New voice line samples for the DLC heads are in the pinned section of the general chat on the official Discord.
>>550662578>Blood Angel starts off sounding like a cherub soft boy and then starts snarling and cursing the enemyVA nailed it.
>>550662578Do we know if we'll be able to use the new voices with helmets?
>>550664258Nothing confirmed yet, but they do say "new heads AND voices" and not "new heads WITH voices." So I'm leaning into them being separate.I hope there's new banter between the new characters and the OG squad. 450 lines per head is a lot.
>>550624796I always suspected this was the reason why they've been hesitant to increase the frequency Assault can use his jump pack dash, but if they were actually fucking clever they'd realise there are ways around it. The easiest way would be for him to meet some condition in combat (killing several enemies in rapid succession, performing a finisher, performing a parry/block) that grants him a charge that can be spent on a free dash. Even if you let it stack two or three times it still wouldn't impact level traversal too severely while allowing Assault to use his dash far more liberally.
>>550624796>for the same reason his Jump Pack works differently from Story and PvP.so it's not that they CAN'T do it, it's that they won't and their "it's lost technology" excuse is a hock of fucking shit
>>550662578>space wolf decimus is audibly white>put a helmet on him and you've effectively whitewashed the characterthey knew what they were doing, and I appreciate it
>>550603986I dont know if its cope but the space wolf picture actually grew on me once i zoomed in and saw he has straight hair and not nappy hair. It reminds me of vandal savage from Dc comics.
>>550671181I understand why people are upset about the space viking being black. I do think him and the BA look cool. I just wish he wasn't a space wolf.
>>550664258>>550664832They confirmed the voice is unrelated to the head and just something you equip. So you can still use the old heads (or helmets) with the new voice if you want.
>>550670220He's just a Scandinavian Demoman. He even has the eyepatch.>"I'M A BLACK FENRISIAN CYCLOPS. THEY HAVE MOER FECKIN' WULFEN IN THE 13TH COMPANY THAN THE LIKES OF ME"
>>550670220The heads go on anybody and they're unique personalities, it's not Decimus.
>>550671615There are a lot black Fenrisians now.
>>550671964Which is stupid, but fuck it. Let's have black White Scars, too.
>>550673174No.> -James Workshop
>>550600940>hey, most of us want Lightning Claws, especially fans of Chapters like the Raven Guard>hmmm, but what if instead we did great swords?>a couple people have tossed the idea around, eviscerators would be cool but we'd really prefer->Lmfao, sorry faggot, you're getting a Greatsword>but that's not really an iconic weapon choi->YOU'RE NOT GETTING ITI fucking hate these faggots. Fuck what you want, we're the ones paying for and playing the game.
>>550675234As a Black Templar player. lol, lmao! I want my Sigismund simulator.
>>550662578Link?
>>550676194As an Iron Snake enjoyer, I want my fucking Lightning Claw.
Lightning Claws are by definition a female-coded weapon. What are they if not exaggerated manicured nails?
Heroic Fist more or less proves that a light-attack focused claw weapon COULD work.Before that, heavy attacks were basically the only way to melee without bringing parry/block into the equation.
>>550678469Say that to Priad's face, faggot.
>>550676362>>550680183It must be hard being a fan of an irrelevant chapter. You have my pity.
>>550681551>Irrelevant chapter>has 3 full ass books>personal honor guard of Saint Sabbat>key players in the liberation of the Sabbat worlds>isn't flanderized to Hell like the Templars>has a well fleshed out culture and isn't just a different colored Ultramarine
>>550681551but that's not iron hands
>>550678469>punch someone>stab them while punching>female coded
>>550681890have you ever seen women fight irl?
>>550682050yes, they don't punch anything and just flail about like retards while grabbing at hairat no point do they punch things with sick ass wrist claws
>>550681890>slash someone with your glowing nails What is that if not female codedIf you like yasqueen claws you’re gay
>mfw Y3 greatsword
>>550662578>forcing people to join a Discord server instead of reuploading themFaggot.>Space Wolf https://vocaroo.com/1amhblxe3CKZhttps://vocaroo.com/138cUaTAPbI7>Blood Angelhttps://vocaroo.com/11sGOsw72IUz>Black Templarhttps://vocaroo.com/1dIaXeA8Y6HU
>>550685185I'm on my phone at work, eat me.
>>550685386NOT FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH
>>550684968I hope it doesn't end up like the Thunder Hammer where its light attacks are going to be worthless and only heavy attacks matter.
>>550685559You can never be sure with Saber, since PAx went from bottom tier to top tier with the recent block change, and Psword became actually good after the buffs.
>>550685651I mean those are one-handed weapons, my worry is with two-handed weapons with the hammer currently being the only candidate.The omnissian axe looks promising from the preview vids but we don't know any numbers for it yet but the thunder hammer has always felt terrible to swing with light attacks because you needed two swings to kill minoris enemies and it was absolutely garbage at regaining CHP.I swear, they need to add some hidden modifier to every weapon where it just automatically deletes minoris enemies.
>>550685651Dude is that Gucks from Barserk
>>550685559The true reason why we're not getting lightning claws is because they'd logically be light attack focused and Saber could never make a melee weapon with light attacks actually worth using unless it's some one-off gimmick like the heroic pfist.
>the Ultramarine champion helmet removes the plume when using it independent of the entire setWhy would anyone buy this shit?
>>550687346They could really build off the heroic fist honestly. Increase attack speed + cleave and maybe do what DoW2 did and give them a lightning DOT effect.
>>550687874It removes the plume to prevent clipping with the other chests that have the full armor cowl over Straban's head.
>>550685185Thanks, that other guy was a dickhead. You could at least post a link to the dick sword, ya know?
Leveling up weapons fucking sucks.I'm Prestige IV level 25 on Tactical and the weapon leveling system is abysmally dogshit and I'm over it. Trying to kill Tyranid Warrior with a standard-issue weapon takes a year in substantial or ruthless and I cant even imagine doing that lethal or absolute. Seriously? Are Saber retarded? They need to get rid of this bullshit and add some sort of system that lets you bypass these types of grinds because I dont see the point of forcing me to play 20 fucking shitter missions just to get a relic tier upgrade and actually have fun playing the game.FUCK.
>>550690280You do know you can search for groups on Discord, right? Why the fuck are you asking for a link?
>>550692296Yeah they’re called heroic weapons buddy
>>550693334yo shut the fuck up you dumb nigger, that is stupid and retarded. It just goes to show you how fundementally fucking garbage this game's weapon leveling system is.
Holy fuck going from Vermintide 2 to Space Marine 2 is hilarious. The average IQ drops by like 50.
How good is the power axe for the vanguard?
>>550696165Block Power Axe is probably bis for single target damage on vanguard. Chainsword is better for hordes, but it's still really fucking good and versatile. Knife is a meme. Overall if you're using the divekick aoe build then Block PA is the best, since 2 block charges backstep into overhead does retarded amounts of damage.>>550694283That can be seen when comparing balance discussion in this general as well. A lot of players here simply don't understand value of a lot of options and the general balancing. I have a much smoother time playing hard stratagems with randoms than playing with people from this general.
>>550696545>I have a much smoother time playing hard stratagems with randoms than playing with people from this general.you never posted a code.
>>550693763>wtf dude how am I supposed to level these grey weapons that do 0 damage >hey you could try the red weapons that do good damage and also let you level the weapon buddy>FUUUUUUUXCXKKKK YOUUUU YOU STUPID NIGGGEEERRR AAAAAATHRHFHDHAAAFHRHF FUCKINF RETAAAAAAAARD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHGenuinely what the fuck is wrong with this game’s community?
>>550698498Nobody actually wants a solution to their problems, they just want to complain. Give advice at your own risk.
>>550698498nta but some guns don't have a heroic version
>>550696545A lot of the criticism over the balancing is valid. Guns feel like garbage, more often than not.Saber desperately want this game to be Vermintide/Darktide but It doesn't work. Dont get me wrong It's a really fun game, but I dont think they understand how fundementally shitty the game can be when you're restricted heavily in movement and combat. Lets face It, This game Is very stiff and It regularly breaks, It puts you awkward moments where you cant avoid a smack because of timings being off and three enemies engage with three type of attacks on you so you just hit regardless and or sometimes you dont even get an indicator.SM2 Isn't designed for the difficulty they want to force, you have considerably less control over your general movement/combat mechanics than you do in Vermintide 2. In Vermintide I can quickly dodge, block, parry, shove, and attack simultaneously all while I'm keeping my positioning in mind, and this level of flexability works in higher difficulty and it undoubtedly always boils down to a skill check.
>>550698498>>550698642Cough>>550698652
>>550692296>with a standard-issue weaponyou level up to greens in one match and to purples in like 3 or 4
>>550696871No he's right, players here in general have nosedived after the 5-6 month mark.No one posts codes anymore because the remaining players here can't even clear a normal Absolute mission without dying much less tackle a hard stratagem. All the people here who cleared hard stratagems got carried by randoms or performed better with randoms.
>>550699317you mean like the burgers who played together like, two days ago? faggot?
>>550699317I set up Macros just to cheese this game to be honest. The only difficult part is getting two teammates who dont fall over like paper.I dont even have to worry about Parrying or Dodging anymore since It's basically done for me.
>>550696545And what's the best secondary gun that the vanguard can use?
>>550699317nice b8 m8 i r8 8/8
>>550699317Faggot, I never played a mission an Absolute and I never will.I want my power fantasy, not Carpal Tunnel Syncdrome. I'm too old for the elitist "real gamer" BS.
>>550702629>Carpal Tunnel Syncdrome>in SM2there is genuinely no need for good aim except for trying to headshot a lictor or carnifex mid attack pattern, clicking heads in this is far more casual than an actual FPS/TPS
Fucker GET IN HERE.YOU ARE COMPROMISING THE MISSION.
Should I take inner fire or melee champion.
>>550685185Thank you!
>>550705638no. try again.
>>550692296>Trying to kill Tyranid Warrior with a standard-issue weapon takes a year in substantial or ruthless>substantial or ruthless>standard issue weaponYou're bring in unleveled weapons to the 3rd highest difficulty in the game. And you're crying about doing no damage. You're fucking retarded my dude.
Did the 40k universe have George Floyd? Is he a saint like the Emperor?
>>550710341>Brother Floydius of the Fentanyl Foes
>>550710341You mean like Saint Charlie Kirk?
>>550707968So I should take unmatched zeal?
>>550705259>me stomp bug me ride on WINGS OF FURY
>>550710337he probably has an rpg background where damage scales more with class level than equipment level.
>>550710337What he's complaining about is that he has to deal with the fact that his weapons need to be leveled individually despite him having cleared every challenge the game has to offerAnd he's correct about that, by far the biggest benefit of the heroic weapons is that they offer a better option for leveling weapons than anything else. When I eventually do decide to max out the HPI I'll be glad to have the heroic version to go straight into absolute with a usable weapon.
>>550712569>getting a single class to piv lvl25 equals clearing every challenge the game has to offeranon....
>>550705259Should have votekicked that Assault
>>550714615I'm sorry, I'm saving my votekick tokens for kicking you ^___^
>>550713229Nothing that suggests the original anon hasn't gotten every class to that level, but what that guy specifically has or hasn't completed isn't even relevant to whether he is correct or not.I do have every class maxed out since way back, and I have completed every challenge not counting PvP of course.And I still have to deal with a weapon being useless for several games if I've left any un-leveled or if a new one is added.
play ultramarines
>>550705259Based xenos exterminating blood magpie
>>550700506HBP, damage type. In general that's bis for every class, but plasma pistol is also okay, but that's more up to personal preference.>>550699004>lot of the criticism over the balancing is valid. Guns feel like garbage, more often than not.I agree, I should've specified that a lot of people here don't know what is good. We had people defending the block paxe before it was able to power stance, and other anons who thought that HBR is actually good. >sometimes you dont even get an indicator.Indicators are a useless and you should never rely on them, besides catching a minoris mid-leap. Just learn animations.
>>550729817Plasma pistol for ChaosHeavy bolt for TyranidsUnless you're Tactical, then just run Stalker + Plasma Pistol for Tyranids.
>>550729817>Indicators are a useless and you should never rely on themOne of the primary functions of the indicators is(supposed to be) informing you of off-screen attacks, because certain enemies require constant attention when they're actively attacking you. Red indicators are also the only way to reliable know you're about to be hit by a red when 15 chaos spawn group up and completely obscure what any one of them is doing.This game was obviously not designed to be played without indicators constantly informing you about what's happening around you.
>>550731795Chaos Spawn are a new addition. You absolutely did not need them before their introduction and you arguably don't now if Saber would fix their dog shit spawn rate.
>>550732825The game telling you that an enemy is about to throw a blue or a red at you from off screen will always be an essential part of this game's combat, especially with the absolutely abysmal sound cues or lack thereof.
>>550732825that reminded me>wait for the heroic bolt rifle to power prestige the sniper>forget the chaos spawns exist>queue chaos >get shredded to pieces>realize you don't need to prestige the sniper, you wouldn't be playing him anyway
Daily Stratagem majoris bubble is such a boring modifier, you just end up waiting around for the bubble to disappear half the time.
>>550685185I hope the blood angels voice has some Unintelligible black rage screams too
>everyone in the game is rocking the same chapter colorsNo better feeling
3AS26Hard stratagem, Be here or be Queer
>>550733152It's really not. Most of the time you're being charged from the front, and even then, it's not hard to keep your head on a swivel, as you should be to begin with, because the indicator doesn't actually give you the proper dodge or block timing. I quickly learned to stop relying on it because I'd get the indicator from off screen and try to parry only to get slapped because the attack was something like a delayed jump swing from a warrior. The only thing it's good for is for minoris grabs, but even then, I've had it just not show up.
>>550738403Still up?
>>550739509>>550739514yes2/3 now
>>550738403>>550739713forgot to mention its for the weekly hard :)
>>550738690>most of the time you're being charged from the front>in a game constantly spawning majoris and extremis behind you>you should keep your head on a swivel>dude just constantly stop looking at the majoris actively comboing youFuck off.
>>550705259Everyone that plays assault, vanguard or sniper is mentally retarded, this is well known.
Bruh that Tactical was garbage
I despise the helldrake fight and its bugged ass wack ass hitboxes, That and fire hitting in areas where its not even shooting
>/v/ is making fun of usbrothers???
>>550743746>"us">it's actually about 40k in generalnothingburgeralso>browsing /v/>in M50.025
That's it Minotaur guy, you're strong enough for Substantial.
GG blood raven bro, glad we got there despite the hell drake fire bugs.
>>550747284finally, its all i have been waiting for :)
You nerds doing the hard weekly stratagem?
>>550748345I just helped an Anon beat it, first match was a wipe thanks to a dogshit Tactical while the second was much better since the Tactical did his job.The Melta bomb trick only worked half the time and only ate half of the Heldrake's HP :(
>>550748567You guys are lucky, when I cleared it with randoms I didn’t know about the melta bomb thing and we literally killed the heldrake by chipping it to death with just the triple rune activations
>>550748754Well I didn't know the Melta bomb trick until I beat it with randoms the first time with just pistols.Handling the mobs is crucial, I've seen randoms ignore the mobs and just run straight to the puzzles.
the hard weekly is reliquiary? I ain't even booting the game then
>>550749721Just spam meltas, the only other acceptable teammate is a Bulwark.If you see an Assault or god forbid a *niper, leave the lobby or kick them. The +75% extra damage for <10m makes the Melta a very strong gun to have and useful to erase mobs.Just try to execute as often without overdoing it, your teammates need HP too.
>>550750020how do you use the metal against the drake?
>>550750020Assault can at least power fist the shit out of the heldrake, along with the Bulwark.
>>550750106You don't, you use the pistol or the melta bomb trick.If timed and placed right you can oneshot or twoshot the Heldrake with an auspex.I helped another Anon 2 nights ago who did the melta bomb trick.
>>550729817>and other anons who thought that HBR is actually goodIt's a'ight, but just like with the BR and ABR it's nowhere near as good as it should be.
>>550685185lmao they made the nig norwegian? at least you can put a helmet on him
>>550755089>high fov just deletes recoilWhy would it ever work like that? Is that intentional?
>>550755489What, you have an issue with the Norse-themed Space Marine chapter having heckin' niggerinos in it? What are you, a chud? I am very smart.Also just noticed FTG has been deleting comments on his December community post video that mentions it lmao.
I hate the dogshit game design that is having to hold buttons to interact with everything.
>>550710337I have 4 maxed out characters. I shouldnt be having to regrind basic weapons in basic difficulties in the same tired ass stratagems because saber dont understand how to design leveling.
Why do people complain about Assault? Its so fucking fun to play
>>550759315Because he's a high-difficulty character who leaves little room for error, a ton of people playing the class are generally liabilities.
>>550756236I'm pulling down on my mouse and using Steady Aim. Here you can see that whether I shoot at the wall with high or low FoV without controlling for recoil my reticule always rises to the same spot on the wall at the same rate. It might give off the appearance that there's less recoil but I think it's just an optical illusion.>>550759315It's not that he's necessarily bad, it's that he's not as good. You'd think he'd at least be the most mobile melee class in the game since he has a fucking jetpack but outside of his class ability that distinction goes to the Bulwark due to his spammable shield rush, and unfortunately the devs aren't creative enough to figure out a way for Assault to be able to spam his jump pack dash in combat without it affecting level traversal. He should be ping-ponging all over the battlefield but as it is now his jump pack dash is only useful for a gimmick build that you need to give up Zealous Blow to use.
>>550758815When did that shit start? Destiny 1?
>>550760782Wait, why does the reticule stop when you hit ca. 15 bullets left? Shouldn't it keep going up?
>>550761337At that point it stops rising. Guess there's a limit, for whatever reason.
>>550760782>another minotaur/smg/ is based as always i see.
>>550762274I really don't see the appeal of the council of terra's pets.
The prestige system fucking sucks. I hate losing my perks over and over.
>>550760232What about vanguard?
>>550764550Not my favorite chapter but >unique spartan aesthetic, bronze with red/white/black looks nice>asshole chapter which appeals to some people >bullied other popular chapters and haven’t been given a beatdown in return(if you ignore that they took massive losses against the lamenters who were already half dead despite having all the advantages)They are neat
>>550765239nta but vanguard is super easy to play and gets massive buffs every update for no discernible reason
>>550759315He gives up a primary ranged weapon and gets fuckall in return. Melee just doesn't feel strong enough and his mobility isn't that impressive. This perception only increases when you see the insane shit Vanguard gets while still retaining a gun.
>>550765310Kinda the same for the iron hands and their successor chapters.
RRRRRAGGGHHHHH FUCK THIS GAME THIS GAME IS SO FULL OF FUCKING SHIT
>>550765512How many people actually play vanguard?
>>550759315Sure it's fun to play...in normal Absolute and in normal siege/stratagemShits useless in hard siege/stratagem unless it's buffed for that weekVanguard brings critical healing, Tactical brings auspex, Bulwark can either heal or be a shieldnigger and Heavy can reduce ranged damage/bring more ammo/revive retards at full health in addition to having an AoE bomb
>>550765310This reminds me how much I love the Lamenters. They're so cool.
>>550765239Vanguard has SO many defensive perks and he keeps getting buffed. He's got a built in team heal perk that got buffed twice and the ability to execute extremis enemies who are at 1/3rd health. You can drag zoans to their deaths if they start glowing orange-red. Vanguard's damage spike isn't nearly as huge but Vanguard is frankly damn near unkillable. Then now we have the block Power Axe and the heroic instigator. All of that and the Vanguard gets to have decent prestige perks that don't feel mandatory like Assault's defensive prestige perks but Vanguard gets to have better ones all around.
>>550765671>be an iron hand successor>lose one battle>cry and throw a shitfit every time someone wants to gloss over it>don't get what you want either waySons of Medusa are just huge babies in power armour.
>>550765931I'm max level on all classes so I guess I do.
>>550764550>I really don't see the appeal of the council of terra's pets.Kosher Iron Losers
>>550765721You got a red mark from behind you when you were aiming.
>>550765721>bar full>still gets a hit inI hate this fucking QTE
>>550765721This should be illegalThe slavoid devs are turning SM2 into Fromslop/Dorkslop
>come back after a long break>excited for the power axe>check it out>the marine is twirling around and spinning that axe like an eldar with a saberwhy
>>550766939>turningThis has been like this day 1 of release.
>>550765310wasn't that the red hunters chapter?
>>550766956Didn't Titus do a lot of spinning with the power axe in 1 too?
>>550767085Raveners didn't pop out when a Carnifex/Neurothrope spawned in the first few months of SM2 Ruthless, also only 1 or 2 spawned separately and only during a massive wave which wasn't common
>>550767323Oh, that's what you meant. I thought you meant the damage from missing a dodge prompt.
>>550767231eh, not really. he definitely wasn't putting it in reverse grip for no reason. it was also bigger. the're handling it in SM2 like it's a knife.
>>550767638The axe is the same size, your marine is just bigger due to primaris retardity.
>>550765310minotaurs aren't spartan, they're generic greekthey're loyalist iron losers like the silver skulls, marines malevolent and some other nondescript imperial fists successor because all of the surviving 200,000+ loyalist iron losers had to be folded in somewhere in between guilliman and dorn; pretty sure raven guard also got one
>>550766256Yeah I know, but you have something like less than a full second to react to it which is easy enough in a vacuum, but rarely are you not preoccupied with something else when playing on absolute.>>550766361It may as well be a cutscene with how little player interaction actually matters in the QTE. No matter how quickly you press the buttons you're gonna take damage, and you can't even fucking recover it because by the time you've escaped the grab all your CHP will be gone. It's retardedly punishing for having such a small margin of error.
>more new players join in thanks to winter sale>more level 1 shitters on absolute
>>550768030honestly, more than anything I love the color scheme, martial aesthetic, them bodying at least one custodian and most of all the chapter master being the biggest "my mary sue is super scary don't even try he could totally beat up your dad but he totes won't because he is just so cool"Its everything I love about space marines but pushed so hard it wraps around to being funny
I wanna see what this stratagem shit is about. Come join me.
>>5507685631 slot left. come on lets get to work.
>>550765310They’re experts at shining High Lord boots with their tongues, and losing an embarrassing amount of Marines to the Lamenters.
>>550766002Thanks for answering. Do you know what team perk I should take for substantial difficulty with the vanguard?
>>550770018Inner Fire or Unmatched Zeal. Depends if you want extra healing.
>They’re experts at shining High Lord boots with their tong-lol shut up you weepy queer go have a cry in your living quarters faget
>>550768563fake gamers the lot of you.
Any good 40k games that are something totally different? Are Chaos Gate or Mechanicus any good?Relatively new to the whole universe but it's gotten me hooked, but wouldn't want to burn out and play something similar like SM2 or Darktide.
>>550773071Gothic Armada is really quite unique, even outside of 40k games.
>>550773071I greatly enjoyed battlefleet gothic 1 campaign, it has a fairly good narrative, the second game has more ships and factions, though it's a sandbox more similar to dark crusade than a traditional rts campaign, it's also quite a bit more grindy.
>>550770416Awww, did I hurt your feelings, bootlicker?
>>550773071Dawn of war 1/2(do not play dawn of war 3)Gladius is alright as far as civ clones go, it's also shockingly still receiving DLC packs despite releasing 8 years agoThe tactical space hulk games are usually fine turn based tactics gamesThe 1993 space hulk game is a completely different and interesting FPS/RTT hybrid.Armageddon is a fine panzer general clone set in the second war for armageddon but recently became unavailable on steam
>>550773071Rogue Trader
>>550773071try Imperial Bureaucracy Hero
>>550770121Makes sense. And for signature I'm guessing adrenaline rush or Emperor's blessing?
https://youtu.be/KGC_MKhAGzg?si=8uwAzHddP4sT1N0kHoping we get some kind of subfaction system. Being able to play a particular chapter or warband instead of just the generic "Space Marine" or "Orks" faction would be really neat.
How easy is this weekly stratagem?
>>550782645Bring a Tactical to stack meltas on the Heldrake + AuspexBring an Assault or Bulwark to power fist the Heldrake to death.
>>550782645It looks hard on paper but the increased ranged damage at close ranges really buffs melta spam and getting HP back on every execution massively boosts survivability I cleared it 2nd try with randoms without much issue Just know where to plant melta bombs for the heldrake unless you want the fight to take 20 minutes
>>550784041>and getting HP back on every execution massively boosts survivabilityExcept for the fact that every single phase of an event leaves you at 30% hp and 0 armor for a full minute leaving you in one shot range constantly
>>550784749Vanguard doesn't care because he just initiates with a grapnel and gets an armor pip back on collision.
>>550784806too bad he's fucking worthless for the heldrake fight and hp back on execution team perk has no value when its already baseline
>>550784926Even still, he's got the best survivability alongside Bulwark in the mission. He serves his purpose in shepherding Tactical to the Heldrake.
>>550784749I said what I fucking said anon
>>550784041>>550784749I'm just scared to play tonight fellas...
>>550787886its not a very hard one, just extremely annoyingit shouldn't take you more than 3 tries provided you know how to damage the helldrake with explosives or power fists
>>550787980I'm scared to not even reach the dragon with 2 randoms
>>550787886Just do it halfway drunk like I didThat should tell you how hard it really was To be fair it’s not like multi-melta Heavy is the most challenging playstyle though
>>550741147I think you just suck shit at the game and have your fov dialed all the way in.
>>550789423I think you're a retard spouting bullshit while I easily clear hard dailies.
YO IT'S CHRISTMAS, WHERE THE FUCK IS THE DOUBLE XP EVENT NIGGAS
This build ok?
>>550791690The build is fine but your drip leaves much to be desired.
>>550791224Cope, shitter.
>>550791690Yeah that's considered optimal Tact.
>>550792110Just the generic Dark Angel paint with the pre-made armour set. Still have to get around to doing cosmetic stuff
>>550791690Yeah, that's the "It does the job" build for the tactical. And color your fucking trim, this shit looks disgusting
>>550794516Dark Angels have a disgusting color scheme in general. Can't stand the look of them, they look shit with the bone white, they look shit with gold, nothing works on them.
this weeks strategem is so easy lol, but despite that I did have a teammate who kept dying.
>>550794821Shut your dumbass up.
>>550796541Congested snot green and cum mixed together ass.
>>550794821>they look shit with gold What’s it like being blind and retarded? Life must be hard.
>>550797068Green and gold does not work unless you're mentally British and always dreamed of opening up a pub called The Nonce & Farrier.
inner fire is fucking awesome. you dont even need the free extremis stimpacks
>>550797339South African rugby would like a word, not to mention you outing yourself as an Americ*n really does undermind any authority you might have on style.
>>550797798Not American.
>>550797339Again, what’s it like being blind and retarded? Do you have a caretaker or do you manage to get out of bed all on your own in the morning?
this is me fighting a helbrute
>>550797798Shut tf non American subhuman. The Dark Angels look great, but I will not tolerate any disrespect to the land of the free. Be silent or begone.
>>550799625
>>550798578>So dark green it borders on blacklmao
>>550799693As an American, whenever some 3rd worlder starts making fun of America my blood starts pumping, but then I look back and America and go “damn he’s got a point” I spent 5 years in the USMC and I kind of fucking hate what this country’s become The problem is every other country is still somehow worse in comparison
>>550799693>amerimutt>calling others subhumanSince a discussion on style brought this about; surely there is enough of an opening in your blind patriotism that Americ*ns aren't exactly renowned for their style right? The cargo shorts, the autism sneakers, the athleisure wear, pyjamas to go on an airplane and just a general epidemic of poorly fitting clothes generally. There's a reason you all stick out like a sore thumb when the moment comes that you can be bothered to cross the ocean.If "land of the free" means everyone is free from the shame of looking like they're living in a trailer park, then maybe that's too much freedom.
>>550800876>Americans aren't renowned for styleBlue jeans, cowboy boots, denim shirts. Shut the fuck up you limp wristed faggot. The average everyday wear in your country is either a track suit or a hijab. Go watch your daughter get raped by Muslims.
>>550800876those are austrialians, i know all white people look the same to you, but the only people who can afford to visit your shithole country right now is australians
>>550802057>>550800876>>550799693Niggers, we're on 4chan in an /sm2g/. You're all white, calm down.
>>550802280I’m about to change my all-white bloodline forever by racemixing with my Filipina fiancée It’s a weird feeling On the other hand I’m also changing her bloodline forever
>>550802280Brothers... I have a confession.... I'm a Celestial Lion.
>>550802661sorry about your condition anon
>>550802915The Inquisition is a thorn in our side even to this day.
>>550802661What do you think about the Imperial FistsYour answer to this question will decide whether or not I declare you mentally white
>>550803834I think they're cool. My favorite chapter is the Iron Hands, but second place is fought over by the Ultramarines and the Fists. I like that they aren't special snowflakes or edgy fanfiction. They're dudes, they hold the line. I appreciate them not getting bogged down with shit like the Thirst, the Rage, the Fallen. I'm actually reading Sons of Dorn right now, and I didn't realize how much they emphasize martial prowess with swords. My only problem with them is that, like with every other cool Chapter, they've got a poor selection of books to choose from. I listened to Dorn's Primarch book, the Emperor's Crusader, and it was okay. I just want a book that focuses on a siege battle where the Fists put all their tactics to use and act as an unbreakable wall the enemy breaks upon.
>>550802649Try not to cheat if she gets fat, and make sure she goes nowhere NEAR rice.>t. knower
>>550802661Didn't know we had actual Space Wolves in here
>>550802661As a Black Templar fan, you're my brother from the same primarch.
>>550802661
>>550804449Okay I declare you mentally white The urge to construct a fortress and man it’s walls against any and all comers is the most white feeling one can have Anyone who hates on the Fists immediately outs themselves as mentally and spiritually brown with no hope of redemption
>>550804952Too late, we have rice with most meals
>>550805875Some of the most satisfying work I've done was as an electrician. Seeing all the wire perfectly taught and straight, staples all perfectly slanted, not hugging the wire too tight or too loosely, all of them at he same height. My favorite was when I'd wire a panel and the all the home runs were so neat without a single crease on the romex that it looked like a master crafted stock photo. Even better when you have an even number of runs and knockouts on either side of the bus bar. Take a step further when you get all the nice curves into your breakers with the individual wires unsheathed to just the right length so you can't see the copper from the landings.My favorite so far has been being a deckhand. I feel like a badass every time I get that perfect NFL tier throw on a heaving line or a textbook tie on a cleat when docking.
Terminator class when?
Now that I've started getting the flow of the combat a bit more (and understanding that it's basically one long glorified QTE/Rhythm game) it actually feels pretty smooth going between taking, dishing out hits, swooshing around and blamming 'nids in the head. Chaos Marines can eat my ass though.How do I get the blue dorito currency? Stratagems? Is it fine to do the normals around level 10-15?
>>550812518Normals are Substantial level so if you're clearing those reliably then go for it.
>>550812518In the back of the armoury there are three terminals. The middle terminal is where you get the blue dorito currency.
>>550812690Blue Doritos are AccoladesThe purple currency you're talking about are Ordeals
I've decided to level Assault, against my better judgement. Fist, or Power Sword?
>>550819249Power fist is such a comically superior weapon to every other melee weapon in the game.
>>550820006Great. Gonna need all the help I can get. I assumed the strongest would be THammer considering the amount of clips it gets.
Brothers of /sm2g/ are indeed people of refined taste.
>>550821883Power Fist is busted, but it's a boring one-trick pony. All you'll be doing 99% of the time is spamming power attacks and watching everything within a twenty metre cone in front of you get pulverised by an invisible force. Thunder Hammer is kinda a one-trick pony too with aftershock (especially the heroic variant shitting out shock fields), but it's still far more satisfying to smack shit around with a giant hammer.
>>550782645Very if you have a triple melta teamJust don't spam executes, leave others for your teammates for as long as necessary
>>550819249block power axe
What's the point of block weapons, exactly, cus don't you need to perfect-parry minoris enemies to get armour back?
>>550827047you trade perfect parries for for huge damage.
>>550791690At least give the shoulder trims, face plate, and leg decorations Sycrox Bronze to help break up the endless green.
Is this the worst time to look for games?- some dude afk after failing Vortex- same dude- two psniggers, but at least they are in a game, get into the thunderhawk, mission failed screen before I can even pick my class- two afk dudes
>>550827047you get armor back on performing a block explosionminoris can be farmed for armor by sprint attacking them which sets up a free gun strike for some reason
>>550827047More damage, more control of where you place that damage, more reliable interrupts against certain enemies like helbrutes, faster kills. The cost is a higher skill requirement, slower attack speed, and less synergy with gun strike bonuses (though the latter two rarely matter).
>>550827047None, they're a contrarian pick.
>>550829238Just post codes if you don't want to play with randoms, if no one joins just become a Discordtroon on the main SM2 channel
>>550827047minoris arent a threat, with block weapons you get free armor from majoris, extremis, and terminus enemies which is when you really need it. if you are really good i can block minoris anyways to get charges. block weapons give a 90% damage boost and ranged damage reduction and let you stagger everything except carnifexes.
>>550827047>What's the point of block weaponsnonethere is a vocal minority in sm2 who rejects the parry mechanics and wants to rollslop blockniggers get halved in hp in the first major encounter and eat shit
>>550829238>>550833972I'd join.
>>550847315If you post a code here chances are no one joins and if someone does join you have to accept that they're usually subpar players and your lobby will end up with a wipe.All of the decent and good players are long gone for months now, SM2 was just FOTM for them.
>>550846597Balanced is the actual unreliable one, because of the wind up, and you're starving for damage with fencing.I tried going all in on fencing chainsword recently, with assault too for maximum melee damage, and you're just pelting nid warriors with attacks 3x longer than with block, fighting them for like a full minute while the vanguard next to you dumps their carbine into the head of the warrior next to yours and gets them executable in 5 seconds flat.Fencing weapons are pool noodles, except for the new heroic ones.Only really good on strats where melee damage is heavily reduced anyway, cause if you're not gonna melee, you might as well put on the most reliable parry.
>>550829238Don't listen to this faggot >>550847495We have a resident doomer that shits on /sm2g/ players every thread.Someone posted a code just a couple days ago or so for absolute runs, and we did well. I'm not saying we're gods, but we're gonna ping armor and medkits and know when to take them ourselves. We're gonna have the right team perks on. We're gonna prioritize zoanthropes, biovores, and soulreapers.And we're gonna stay in your battle barge until we complete at least one operation.Far more than you can say for randoms. And at least two of us at the time were playing since around release too, so the faith is being kept.
How do I do this move? When I hold down the melee button I get a normal heavy attack.
>>550848251yeah assault is the only class in which the melee weapon even matters. the other classes use their ranged weapon and bulwark deals 250 damage just for existing. people dont like block because you have to learn the attacks of every enemy in the game, but if you no life it then you can graduate to block. block ends up being safer since you get a free execute every 5 seconds
>>550853432Are you dashing/running into a charged attack?
>>550854953There's no such thing as a running heavy on the fist. It comes out the same whether you press or hole the button. Also "Thrust Jab" is explicitly a stationary heavy.
>>550855268Nigger are you retarded? If you come out of a dash/run attack the next attack you throw out will be the second thrust not the neutral. You have to stop for a second to get the actual neutral heavy to come out
>>550855268Are you trying it in the “training room?” Weapon perks don’t actually apply while you’re in there.
anyone have any pointers for choosing my first heroic gun?
>>550866639There's only really the heroic instigator and the two heavy weapons to really consider for firearms.
>>550866639>>550866737The heroic bolt pistols are good.
>>550866737The heroic fist and hammer are also really good They’re pretty much straight upgrades if you’re already using fencing
Doing the normal weekly for the Doritos. 6DYA7No Salamanders, no Space Wolves.
>>550876394>hurr durr post codes! Post codes!>every time I post a code, the thread goes completely silent
>>550876394>please carry my ass on normalHoly shit you suck.
>>550877029bro i don't want to be awake right now but sure, i'll come in
>>550876394Fucking finally some codes->normal???
>>550876394Lmao, thanks for the free xp. Joined in the last 5 seconds
>>550877191I already did the hard one, I just like playing with people.>>550877295Thank you for your service.>>550877908Playing with bots feels lonely.Thank you to my brother who fought valiantly and Hank, who was there just long enough to get no kills, 10 damage, and make us watch the ending cutscene.
>normalDo people really here?
>>550879974Yeah, idk what happened but the moment the Drake went down it went straight to the scoreboard and then my entire game crashed for some reason
>>550877029>expecting us to constantly monitor the thread 24/7>>550877908>>550877191>implying every code is a call for helpWe all need to chill more.
>>550880726Any other time I poke my head in here, there's faggots arguing about block vs fencing, kicking assaults, the one World Eater always posts his (pretty good I'll admit) games, there's people shitting on the heroics or posting webms of fights. Yeah, it's kinda weird that I can't at least get a >blow a dick niggerwhen I post codes, despite seeing calls for codes over the past couple days.
>every day I don't do the weekly means the weekly will get harder because only retards stick around for so long doing weekliesJUST
>>550885161Post codes if you can't do the weekly
>>550885210I'm going to boot up the game in like 5 hours, hope there are humans left wanting to do the daily and by humans I mean no xbox players
>>550885161I hate this phenomenon It’s the exact way with raiding in FFXIV or WoW, every day that you don’t clear the current raid tier, it’ll get harder and harder because the good players already cleared and moved on on day 1-2, and eventually all you’re left with is the retards and your chances of clearing drop every day I wish I could mentally overcome it but I always feel the pressure to clear fast because of it
>>550862310yea that was it. I didn't think they'd be that retarded, and they were!
I AM COMMANDER BOREALE'S STRONGEST BATTLE BRUVA
>>550888435Yeah that shit blew my mind the first time I realized that too. I don’t know what the fuck they were thinking when they pushed out that excuse for a training room.
Ayo my niggers where the dark-skinned Fenrisian women at?
>>550899420Man, I cannot wait to white wash vanguard.I almost don't care that they're jewing us by making it season passless dlc.
>>550899420>>550900514But Decimus is my favorite.
>>550900810I’ll probably still use the Decimus voice from time to time just because it’s greatJust only on chapters that make sense lol
>>550890392>idk wtf they were thinkingHalf as much as they should have. Like they do for a lot of decisions.
>>550901027Fair enough. I like the Blood Angel guy too so far, and how he can flip between being noble and chivalrous sounding, to a bloodthirsty savage in an instant.
>>550900810You have taste. VG has the best lines and delivery in the game imo.Personally, I just usually rep BAs, so I just don't want my BA VG to sound literally like an african man. Being able to go helmetless and say BA specific lines with BAish delivery are big pluses.
>>550901349Yeah, VA nailed it based on that one snippet we got. I really hope he screams like a mad cunt for the melee attacks and executions.
SPHESS MEHRENESWE ARE THE SPHESS MEHRENESOUR ENEMIES DIE
>>550900810he's my favorite because spamming>The only thing betta dan a chain swawd...is TWO chainswawds!>I crave a bloodbath...or maybe a BLOOD SHOWAback to back on a loop for the entire duration of the mission has gotten multiple players to tell me they hate me
I WANT TO TAKE A CHAINSWORD TO THIS SERVO-SKULL
If Sanctified Wrath could knock Biovores out of their bullshit turret mode it might actually be worth picking up.Pffft, who am I kidding? No it wouldn't be.>>550890392The most use I got out of it was me and my friends shooting each other in there for like 10 minutes before we got bored and actually started playing the game. I don't know why they even bothered implementing it, it serves zero purpose. They should implement a proper training arena NOW.
>>550902780I understand completely. I like Decimus, but it does break a bit of the immersion whenever I’m using Blood Angels, Raven Guard, or any of the other Chapters I like using for Vanguard, and I hear an African Warlord screaming like a psychopath. Really looking forward to the new voice packs to help out with that.
>Tactical did almost twice as much ranged damage with the Pyreblaster than a Sniper with the heroic BSRJesus Christ.
>>550900810>butweblewitup
>>550904887That’s probably also because Pyreblaster just does stupid amounts of damage while also only requiring you to point it in the general direction of the enemy
>>550904887Pyreblaster/Pyrecannon have carried me through so many siege waves it's not even funny. It's a fantastic Boss Killer.
>>550900810I do not find oogaboogabixnood to be very fitting voice for any chapter I use, probably would even be for celestial lions if I ran them.
>>550905880wouldn't even be*
>>550905880Put some respect on Decimus, fuck boy.
>>550908082Decimus is about as respectable as a chaos spawn.
>>550908262Decimus is great and fulfills the blood knight space marine persona perfectly, he is an angry asshole and I love him
>>550911298>knightHe's a slavering retarded nigger.
>>550911916>doesn't know what blood knight meansRead a book lol
>>550912195Having the IQ and temperament of an ogryn is a retarded personality for most space marine chapters, especially ultramarines.Warhammer blood knights are not mindless retards like decimus.
>>550913476He's a son of Guilliman. He literally cannot be retarded. He canon no diffed shit that would kill squads of Space Marines even if one were to give an ultra conservative estimate on the number of forces he faced alongside his squad in the Operations. You don't get into 2nd Company by chance.
>>550914152>He's a son of Guilliman>hurr durr but we blew it upYeah right. Just like saarkaana is a "cadian".
>>550914410Doesn't everyone show disbelief that the Hive Tyrant isn't dead from getting crushed by a giant statue? Also, why don't you talk shit about Quartus? He's black too.
Melee heavy's not bad.You stack all your melee perks, including the ones on the heavy bolter and inferno pistol, and you can raise your extra melee damage percentage to 200%.225% if you can find a sanctified wrath.
>>550915185Because quartus isn't constantly acting like a retard? He talks like an ultramarine instead of someone mentally impaired? Just dealing with technology at all doesn't see him possessed by khorne?
>>550915513I can't imagine being so shit I get shown up by a Heavy running a meme build.>>550915725>acting like a retardJust because you sound retarded doesn't make you retarded. He's simple, not stupid. He's probably from a death world or some shit where Low Gothic isn't spoken. Performative racism isn't very funny. I could see if Decimus was actually dumb, but he just speaks Gothic with a thick accent. He doesn't even have poor grammar, it's JUST his accent.
I’m probably the most racist dude here and I think Decimus is cool
I am the actual most racist dude here and I think Imperial Fists are the most sissified chapter there is
>>550915959>he's simpleSo he doesn't talk like an ultramarine, he talks like a retard.>he's probably from a death worldEvery marine should acquire the manner of speech of their chapter before they've even graduated from scout, it's years of constant, intense indoctrination and physical transformation.>muh performative racismEat shit, redditor, nobody here cares about your virtue signalling.
Decimus is a based bixnood. He channels that violent energy into something productive.
>>550915185>Doesn't everyone show disbelief that the Hive Tyrant isn't dead from getting crushed by a giant statue?Yes but you see the anon you are replying to is a retard
>>550919050>talks like a retardHe talks like a Marine with overflowing zeal that happens to come from a backwater.>Every Marine should speak the sameLame and gay.>Performative RacismYes, faggot. You think you're funny and you're just acting like a caricature of what you think people who use 4Chan are like. You're trying too hard to fit in and it's cringe inducing. You sound like a kid.
>>550918782I know what you are
>>550919417He's not zealous, he's angry, dialogue between characters shows he's specifically not zelous. Vespasius is zealous.The writers thought "angry nigger with a ridiculous accent and zero defining traits beyond constantly being in a blind rage" was a fitting personality for an ultramarine, it's not.>everyone should just be a random grab bag of personalities with zero cultural links between themRetarded current yearism, I guess you're that "modern audience" developers are always talking about catering to.>muh performative racism wahhh wahhhhHow about you curb that performative outrage, pussy.
Decimus talks regularly enough back on battle barge.>It is useless debating with you two. I would get more sense out of statues at the Temple of Hera
>>550920023>the guy who's just wants to get at the enemy and has the second most energetic "For the Emperor!" shout is not zealousOk.>Not having everything be cookie cutter copy and paste means it has to be completely random with no rhyme or reasonOk.>OutrageI'm being trolled.
>>550920023Ultramarines draw recruits from over five hundred worlds, why the fuck would they all sound the same?
>>550920549A zealot would dedicate themselves to the spiritual aspects, like vespasius and quartus, decimus is borderline disdainful of those and is literally just mad.>>550920872Because, as a space marine chapter, they're an extremely disciplined and cohesive organization that forces all of their recruits to undergo years of extreme indoctrination in the chapter's culture, this indoctrination never has a stopping point and continues for the decades or centuries of their service after they become full marines. They are also physically transformed on the genetic level to be more similar to their primarch.They should have a shared accent, mindset, general tactical approach, etc, with far more uniformity in personality. It's why the overwhelming majority of players look at the various operations characters and identify them as not acting like ultramarines, most people seeing straban as an imperial fist, or scipius as a raven guard.Everyone having completely disconnected personalities and no shared culture is for renegade or heretic chapters.
>>550921771>They should have a shared accent, mindset, general tactical approach, etc, with far more uniformity in personality.That isn’t true at all and marines across all chapters have significant differences in how they act, look at titus and leandros, who act completely differently and have completely different interpretations of the codex astartes, one of the key elements of being an ultramarine.
>>550922663It is, marines are psychologically altered to be more like their primarch just from the transformation into marines.
>>550923194Yet they all have individual personalities and beliefs, this is easily observed in 40k media.
>>550923697Always seen as a failure of the writers. Space marines should have similar personalities for the same reason they look similar. It's outright stated that they have similar beliefs and favor certain tactical approaches as a chapter.
>>550921771Zeal, while often used in descriptions of fervent religiosity, is not exclusive to it. It is, plainly, enthusiasm. Decimus is always enthusiastic, to the point he has to be reminded sometimes to hold back a little. Just because he isn't one for lectures and prayers does not mean he has any less zeal for fighting the enemies of mankind. >he's just madNot only is he in the second company, he's the leader of Veridian.
>>550924107>always seen as a failure of the writers Wrong Nobody believes this except you and you trying to make it look like everyone thinks this makes you look badI’ve been just observing this argument from this side but boy are you grasping at straws with this one
>>550924164It requires he be uncompromising in pursuit of some ideal, he is never shown to possess any ideals, he's just mad.>>550924583It is stated that the transformation makes them more similar, physically and mentally, to their primarch. It has always been extremely popular in the fanbase that marines of the same chapter have a similar personality.
Just how autistic do you have to be to not see the semantic differences between "the same" and "similar"?
>>550915185Yes, many of them sound just as stupid and incredulous except they have a different accentVespasius especially is bad with it but anon can't cope with the idea that the space knight who's entire life has been reforged into being a weapon is violent, impatient, and direct.
>>550925232>it is stated This is the part where I ask you for a source to back up this claim
>start a hard stratagem>level 4 no prestige joinsI give up
>>550925781Raven guard, salamanders, 40 years of space marines being depicted as similar in general.
>>550921771>quartusquartus isn't zealous in the least, he's wary and temperedbeing reverent and faithful is not zealousVespasius and Decimus are both zealots, one is just wrapped up in the worship while the other is uncaring for the pageantryThere's a reason why you have to specify "religious zealot", zealotry is not inherently restricted to religion or pseudo-religions.
>>550926249So no source, just vague references? Awesome, good job
>>550927456Post a white salamander.
>>550926249Similar, not carbon copies. Even when they're similar, Marines have individual personalities. You see this across every Chapter with a decent amount of literature. Hell, in some cases they don't even speak the same languages like the when the White Scars united with the Terran born Marines of the Legion. They had to learn Chogorian. No doubt the other Legions had to learn Ba'alite, Nostraman, Barbaran, Noctan, etc. Hell, Horus put on an accent that was comical to the Luna Wolves. And then there's culture. The various Chapters were made specifically based along Company lines, which in themselves had developed their own cultures within the Legions. Future Chapters are made the same way, so I don't know where you get this idea that all Marines in a group are all but clones of each other.
>>550927612>Post one of the Chapters who have the strongest gene seed phenotype expression being different phenotypicallyThere Asian looking Imperial Fists as shown in Sons of Dorn. Ultramar is made up of hundreds of worlds, so no way in Hell are they all going to look exactly the same, especially since Guilliman's gene seed isn't as phenotypically aggressive as Vulkan's or Corvus', which turn their recipients dark skinned/white skinned seemingly without fail.
>>550921771>Because, as a space marine chapter, they're an extremely disciplined and cohesive organizationlmao there are entire chapters who's entire battle plan boils down to >fuck it we balland actively inculcate as much mad violence as possibleUltramarines aren't imperial fists, they're not retardedly rigid (yet i don't see you complaining about Straban's autism anywhere), their entire point is tactical flexibility and adaptability in the face of changing battlefield conditions and Decimus' anger and instincts are regularly make him one of the two marines actually providing solutions and tactical values instead of just platitudes.
>>550926263Quartus is extremely dedicated to the religious ideals. Decimus doesn't demonstrate an appreciation for any ideals, he just likes killing, I'd only call that zealous if he was khornate.>>550927824The marines in SM2 have zero similarities.
>>550927612>no dude I actually don’t have to provide a source to back up my claims Intentionally weakening your own argument is a good strategy, let’s see how it plays out
>>550928297>Quartus is extremely dedicated to the religious idealsNo he fucking isn't, a few lines about evening prayers does not make him remotely near "extremely dedicated" in the realm of 40k.>no, killing the enemies of mankind isn't an ideal!Just admit you're a faggot who hates men acting reasonably upset in the middle of a war
Why does no one here understand the Burden of Proof? If YOU are the one making a claim, the burden, the onus is on YOU to provide sources to back up YOUR claim. Humanity collectively agreed on this back in the days of the Greek philosophers. Who do so many retards here think it’s somehow okay to deflect the Burden of Proof and demand that their opposition provides sources proving them wrong instead?
>>550928297I actually noticed that all of them have high cheek bones. I thought it was a nice detail that, even despite being from a myriad of different planets/races, you could see a bit of Guilliman in all of them.
