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>News
Gone Nutty for Gifts Event Pass: https://x.com/i/status/2001321617889354199

Jeff's Winter Splash Festival: https://youtu.be/2DEpKcigA30 [Open] [Open] [Embed]

Season 6: Night at the Museum Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/Aj53c2Uxrtc [Open] [Open] [Embed]

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Seeds of the Gardener Event Pass: https://x.com/i/status/1998792449154809968

Rogue Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/-_CwYQQP21Q [Open] [Open] [Embed]

Dev Vision Vol. 12: https://youtu.be/abvLlSjm2-0 [Open] [Open] [Embed]

Season 5 Battle Pass: Grand Garden Adventure: https://youtu.be/0EEYlg99xUk [Open] [Open] [Embed]

Season 5: Love is a Battlefield Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/hXOUHb6416 [Open] [Open] [Embed]

>Store
Star-Lord's Starcracker, Peni Parker's Snow-SP//dr, and Daredevil's Not Daredevil skins: https://x.com/i/status/2000974432089542971

Rogue's Savage South and Rocket Raccoon's Rocket of the Rafters skins: https://x.com/i/status/1998475280659182007

Luna Snow's Cherry Delight skin: https://x.com/i/status/1995893222057406562

Blade's Restful Recovery and Venom's Gummy Surprise skins: https://x.com/i/status/1993379313408729526

Doctor Strange's Bleeker Street Strut and Magik's New Millenia Might skins: https://x.com/i/status/1990502768352600107

Gambit's Thieves Guildmaster skin: https://x.com/i/status/1988369897219387549

Magneto's Temporal Tyrant skin: https://x.com/i/status/1988388771369304085

Wolverine's Dog Brother X skin: https://x.com/i/status/1985738811167440934

>Links
Hero Hot List: https://marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/
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Checkpoint: >>550844541
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>almost christmas
>they still haven't fixed Cap's hitreg
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Galacta is cute.
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They beauty of 18v18 is that I can play any character I want, get practice in, but not have the worry of "throw picking". I've actually gotten the chance to improve with Psylocke, Punisher, Scarlet Witch, Namor, and Star-Lord. Still suck with Bucky, Hela, and Phoenix though. I'm open to tips, but it may just be practice. I'm on console so I had to tweak settings.
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Weren't we getting free units on the 18th? Did I miss that?
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>>550980513
It's in the jeff winter splash mode.
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>>550980513
free units on the 24th-27th when you go to the tree in times square.
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>>550980390
They should really go back and re-rate old heroes because Psylocke is NOT 5 star difficulty, she's just Genji if he could go invisible sometimes
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>>550980513
>>550980670
Is it a random amount, or is it a sum dependent on an alluded "good boy points"? Because I've heard both. If the latter, that would be kinda cool to encourage good behavior in the community.
>Number of reports
>Number of disconnects
>Number of upvotes
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Gooning to Venom
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>>550978850
I get more damage and kill participation than everyone else on my team when I play Rogue so I can't relate. All your moves do AoE damage so you really have to put in effort to not participate in half the kills.
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>>550981652
It's stated as 'random amount', but people have been hoping it's the latter
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>>550981652
>anon gets coal because he leaves so many matches
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fuck muties
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>feel like I did very well
>team wins the match
>I thumbs-up the entire team
>no one else does
W-was I carried?
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>>550981961
I leave every bot match so I'm probably getting coal
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I think the general rule for tanks, at least for Rogue, Thor, Thing, Hulk, and Emma, is to play "bodyguard". With the buddy system you can help competent duelists and secure much easier wins, or simply hang back with healers to make sure they don't get flanked or dived
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>>550981981
I wish I could
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>>550982084
I'm just going to say it; Luna Snow is a more interesting/fun ice-themed hero than Iceman. Bobby, despite being an OG X-Man from the original team line-up, has never been interesting
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>>550981961
Would be soulful so we know that’s not happening
>>550982004
You’re so cute. I would breed you on the spot AND carry you.
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asking again: Rogue mains/Lords, do you have trouble scoring a lot of kills game to game? I'm getting like 6-7 to others' teens. Even if I don't die at all it still feels like not contributing much. But I still wanna play her

>>550982062
i guess don't play Rogue expecting big kill numbers?
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Loving to Rocket
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>>550982563
I'm just gonna say it: I love Luna.
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>>550979283
WHAT TIME IS IT?
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>>550981652
I left about 30 games give or take this past year. Conversely, I upvote a lot and I’m constantly reporting people for throwing. Where would I stand?
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>>550983879
This but unironically.
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>>550983915
CLOBBED
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>>550981790
sorry I missed your reply, I need to look at what I'm doing then, thanks
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wasn't he a DPS?
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>>550983915
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>>550984358
He's on my cock next
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>>550983510
Depends, if the stars are aligned and my team is competent, I can rack up some kills, but since Rogue kind of lacks damage without Gambit, around 7-10 finals sounds about right. With Gambit its much higher.
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>>550984358
VanGODS can't stop winning.
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It is ALWAYS the support's fault.
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......lol
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Bucky.
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>>550984927
>we at NetEase find this player GUILTY, of being BASED
Kek
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>>550982563
Bobby is more interesting by virtue of his power set being infinitely more versatile and cooler. Otherwise I don’t think either of them have the edge over each other when it comes to character, they’re both nothing burgers.
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>>550984927
I get so unbelievably horny when I play this game high, I can't and don't remember any of the weird stuff I say in chat that would make someone like that get angry at me.
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>phoenix supposedly more busted than hela according to most
>hela still gets banned exponentially more than phoenix
what is the meaning of this
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>>550985896
Me too, once I take a couple dabs I will say what I say about tearing up a twink's bussy or blasting fat ropes through Doreen's thighs. ESRB says not all online interactions can be covered in the rating, you shall hear about my need to bust.
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>feel like playing a DPS character in QP
>entire team decides to go 6 DPS the moment I select one
Why is the playerbase like this?
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>>550985896
I wish I could feel that way. I just get depressed but you're probably half decent at the game unlike me
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Yo yo /mrg/

Been a minute since I last posted what Marvel Rivals Art I'm working on but after clearing my schedule I'm working on a special Rivals Christmas pinup ft. Hela! Pic related, basically the alpha stage it was originally going to be Mantis I was seriously considering it to be Emma but I drew her for Halloween 2025 plus it's funny having Hela wishing (You) Merry Christmas.

I'll post the finished piece here too once it's done but here's a alpha WIP preview (still a bit iffy on the hairstyle so if you have any suggestions feel free to say so)
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I seriously hope The Hood leaks are now abandoned or fake. Parker Robbins is the shittiest fucking villain not even hardcore Marvel fans want. I say this as someone who wants never evers like Tigra
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>>550986681
You are a gem helabro, merry christmas
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>>550986681
Fuck off jeet or I'm calling the draenei to come gap your bitch ass (again)
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>>550981652
It should be the latter and they should do it every year so people know to behave going forward.
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>>550986681
Based
>>550987109
Seethe troon
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>Want slutty bucky
>Want tight sweater DD
>Sexy thor soon
guangguang please stop
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>>550986065
It means phoenix was nerfed a season ago and hela wasn’t
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Any other returning players here who quit the game during the cancerous Storm + Johnny flying meta?
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>>550987531
I look like this except I'm uglier and stupider lol
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>>550986681
Pierced nipples would be hot
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>>550987531
The answer is to get all 3. Get Bucky and Thor at least
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>>550987109
based. I'm sick of that jeet shilling his garbage art for god knows how many years on god knows how many generals. his shit has stagnated too, it still looks as garbage as it did many years ago. The fact that A jeet was RPing as an edgy human white male is fucking hilarious. jeet likes to larp as white man so bad. glad he got gaped and bullied out of the wow general
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>>550986681
me likey. i dont care if you are a jeet or not
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>>550986681
Love your work buddy, Merry Christmas.
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is Psylockes reign over?
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>>550987880
>the cancerous Storm + Johnny flying meta
you guys will literally cry about ANYTHING
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550987109
550988242
Always two guys eating their own asses in here over the same stuff everyday, really makes you think.
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>>550988463
shes ult the character now
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>>550986681
Now draw taking advantage of a vulnerable younger girl
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>>550987880
I fought through it, the meta was better in season 5.0. You missed the best half season in a while
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Who keeps shilling on /v/?
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>Play Klyntar: Symbiotic Surface
>It's 3-3
>We've got 1 minute, enemy got 2:36 minutes
>Our Strange has the brilliant idea to portal to point
>Spends 20 seconds just setting up the portal
>Enemy team has called it ages ago
>kills basically the whole team the second they step through portal
>Portal ends & we've got 10 seconds to run from spawn to point
Fucking retards, I swear
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>>550989391
>going on /v/
I'll take every slow board before that bucket of gay crabs.
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>>550989391
Better question, who cares about /v/ - Culture Wars & Twitter Screencaps?
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So what's the "close range strat" for Squirrel Girl? Shoot the floor and pray the falloff damage kills/scares away the enemy, or merely jump retreat away so you can improve your chances of a direct shot kill?
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>>550989709
I want to get close to her
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Console fag here, how can I improve my accuracy with Hela, Phoenix, and Mantis? Oddly enough I have more consistent shots with Hawkeye given his delay and dropoff. But in general I can sometimes "panic" due to how fast enemies are moving. I'm open to tips
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I wish Rivals had a mode where your hero changed every time you died
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>>550986979
Your Tigra point doesn’t help your case but I agree and think it’s likely they’ve abandoned him at this point
>>550987109
>>550988242
I wouldn’t even mind it if his art wasn’t so terribly stagnant with messed up proportions like at least show some improvement after all these months.
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>>550990009
>Your Tigra point doesn’t help your case
Why's that?
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>>550989037
based Cunny/HebeGOD
>>550989391
Probably Zhiyong shitposting as usual
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>join game
>open mic and extremely loud shit in the background
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>>550989974
This is already a thing in most lobbies.
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>>550986979
>>550990009
At least Tigra would be something other than generic human looking woman.
The current female roster is fucking boring. Not even a different skincolor like green or anything.
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>>550990461
>join game
>open mic and hear the sound my hallway makes
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>>550990461
>Install game
>disable voice chat
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>>550987531
>Sexy thor soon
Did I miss something?
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>>550990634
Good, these women are for straight white men, not weird fetishists and furries.
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>>550990874
Luna is for me
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>>550990874
>gamora
>fetishists
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GM is so fucking unfun just retards stuck here for 1k hours
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>>550990634
>>550990874
Cat girls are technically exempt from the furry accusations. There's bleed over but its a vanilla/safe pick given what it is and pop culture examples. So Tigra is not only safe, but a source of fetish bucks yet to be tapped.

Now Wolf Cap? That's fucking furry pandering even if it happened in comics. Still a cool skin though
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>playing shieldcuck supreme
>notice hela and punisher keep dying the most retarded deaths imaginable
>"i know, i can help!"
>start babysitting them with the shield, flying up to give the hag more than a second of ult, protecting the big boy tard while he struggles to get a kill or two in his own, even shield the occasional well placed turret meant to soak all incoming damage
>spend the entire match holding m2
>we actually squeeze out a win
>at the stat screen dueltards immediately proceed to flame me for having shit damage and kills
>as a final insult i get the least amount of points
This is it. I've had enough. Fuck tanking and fuck teamplay I'm one tricking iron fist from now on.
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>>550989954
Consolefag too, you need to understand how the aim assist in the game works. Here is a video. Secondly you need to do flick practice in the practice range. The best routine for me is standing in the middle, having 3 mantises run around quickly, and try to hit 10 shots in a row. Everytime I miss I reload, until I hit my goal. TL;DW
>Aim assist window size affects how big the “bubble” surrounding target is.
>Aim assist ease in creates a gradual increase in aim assist the closer you aim at the target
>Maxing out both has a negative effect when the bubbles overlap
https://youtu.be/CD5hQqdZlCE?si=xnuwSvoUN35QLnAx
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>>550990634
>Not even a different skincolor
Storm is right there
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>>550986681
HOLY CHRISTMAS
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>>550991931
Haven't watched the video but my aim settings are
>Aim Assist Box Size 20
>Strength 90
With some other tweaks. I'll take a look though
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>>550982563
You fucking bastard. How dare you say that and be completely right.
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>>550990874
>Luna poster is based beyond belief
wtf is it Opposite Day???
>>550991805
true….
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>>550992557
Good luck
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>>550986681
I like the hairstyle and I'm glad some people are still drawing instead of making AI slop brainrot
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>>550992361
I said "or green". As in not looking like "generic human looking woman". Even if they're just mutants or something, they could at least add some more visual variety.
i know the chinks are spineless and would never add something more monstrous or alien looking, but ffs at least some more different skincolor like gree, blue or some shit would make the female lineup less boring.
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>trying to play jeff (18v18)
>mk keeps blocking my bubbles
I hate these piece of shit
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>>550992901
Are my current settings good though?
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>Went SVP in 3 back-to-back games and yet both my team and the enemy team blamed the spider for losing
Why does the Spider mind break so many people? This level of distain isn't prevalent on other divers
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>>550993583
>cheap environmental kills
>erratic movement
>i win ult
>repulsive noises
>annoying voice lines
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>>550993409
Yeah they are fine, though it you probably would want a higher ease in then.
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>>550993819
What number would you recommend? I'm practicing right now
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>>550994027
80 is good
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>>550986681
even if you're jeet, you're still based in my list.
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>thinking of booting up the game
>realize every match will just have sue & gambit in it and be a slog
>end up doing something else
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>>550992719
Luna posters are literally always based though
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who are the most based posters itt?
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Holy fuck the jeff mode sucks ass. Out of the 16 games played my team has won exactly once. Thank you guangguang for making the rewards participation trophies.
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>>550994716
The venom poster is based
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>lose another game because of DPSdiff
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>>550986681
fuckoff loser, you arent a 4chan bro youre a shill for your own twitter circlejerk
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>>550994920
Just play dps anon
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>Lose another game because supports don't know anything but healbotting
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY
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>Healtard too stupid to hit lmb and heal anybody
>Game ends and he only died three times but healed for 2k
Legitimately kill yourself
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>>550990535
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>>550994716
jeffkissing.jpg posters
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Will Widow EVER recover? She's the most unpopular pick by far, and I'm wondering if devs will add something to her kit outside of team ups. Would this be the case with any sniper character? Could a PVE mode make her popular again?
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>>550994548
take "play vs. AI" pill, anon
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>>550994391
For all 3, or just projectile?
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>>550995572
For hitscan especially. Projectile sure, but melee it doesn’t really matter
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>>550995059
>supports
>anything but healbotting
thats all they need to do
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>>550986681
This really got some people here triggered lmao
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>>550994716
Luna and Mantis healGODS
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what if deadpool can be played in every role? so 3 kits OR his kit has different properties depending on the role you decide to play. Him jumping around the roles in character selection might be more than a joke.
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>>550994838
T-thanks friend, you too.
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>>550993165
>i know the chinks are spineless and would never add something more monstrous or alien looking
Venom is right there
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>>550994838
He is
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>>550995809
>Manis
Sure
>Luna
???
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>>550995865
Since Deadpool is doing the heart emoji it means he is a healer. Duelist/vanguard is a red herring.
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>>550995865
It’d be neat, and would honestly help the competitive experience a lot. Because there will be one tricks
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>release the best winter skins in a mini pass
chinks are based and it scares me that they will stop one day
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>>550996231
But I'm Not Daredevil was a shop skin?
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>>550995793
Oh shit oh fuck my wallet
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>>550996309
that skin is trash, lil zoomzoom
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>>550996094
Did I stutter?
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>>550996398
You like Male Stripper Bucky so you're either a zoomer yourself or gay
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>>550995059
>lose another game because the supports AREN'T heal botting
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oooh a touch of healing
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>>550996605
nah, the mini pass skins are just better, get some taste, faggot
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>Gambit ult
>hold W
>Ace unless they also have a Gambit ult
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>>550994716
VanGODS
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Can I not buy the Peni Christmas or any other of the holiday skins separately? They're only in the bundle?
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>>550997130
Scroll down bro
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>>550997130
Scroll down
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>>550995408
Hero shooters don't benefit from one taps or snipers. But the devs are not competent enough to do a good Widoow rework, so she will remain as-is with some pointless buffs to her ult or something every now and then.
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>>550996998
He needs some nerfs. The ult does way too much at the same time.
>move speed
>jump height
>cc cleanse
>healing
>bonus damage
>extra ult charge
He could stand to lose like 2-3 of these effects and it would still be a good ult.
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>>550997521
Unironically remove the healing, force Gambit and the other support to still heal and play safe during the ult.
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>>550997521
>CC cleanse
>extra ult charge
These would be the best ones to remove. Fucker already has his cards to counter CC, and it’d help differentiate the good from the bad gambits. The ult battery strat he is creating with loki is getting cancer, and nipping it in the bud would be the great.
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>>550993817
>Cheap environmental kills

Every meta character has a movement ability or several defensive abilities to deny these.
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>>550995913
I'm talking female characters. No fucking way the chinks would ever add some female like Harpy or Wolfsbane.
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>>550997521
>Extra ult charge
>Bonus damage

These stack by the way. Isn't that fucking crazy?
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>>550994716
That handsome guy who posts Rocket
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I hate Jeff's mode so fucking much
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>>550998174
Good
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when we win I usually have 3 or less deaths on Invis
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>>550994716
I'm partial to the "her" poster, and Bluth-anon by association.
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>>550998194
All damage boost stacks ult charge, and gives the support who gave the damage boost ult charge. Although I am not 100% sure if the last part is true for ults. Meaning the loki mantis team up gives him even more ult charge, especially with the new damage buff he got. Add in mantis damage boost on that fucker, gambit ult and potentially cap ult, it gets real dumb real fast
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>>550997130
You're smarter than I am. I didn't ask this question and just assumed shit was locked to a bundle. That's why I have all the Fantastic 4 First Steps outfits.
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why didn't that "Play Cap" anon tell me you're supposed to hold click with him to throw the shields?
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>>550979283
>>550964459
What tank were you playing what dps were on the other team?

>>550978850
Tanks in general don't have too many final hits in comparison to dps. Also, you're playing a brawler in a game where poke is overpowered and dominant.

>>550885067
>Hawkeye
>Never works past plat

Lol. Gave me a good laugh.

>>550979959
Hulk's Incredible Leap Air Drag has been buggy since the game released.

>>550987880
Poke is far more of a problem.
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>>550996965
>get some taste, faggot
You like the male stripper skin, faggot
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>>550996998
>>550997521
Gambit's ult confirmed that Zhiyong is a dumb fucking retard. It flat out gives both Cap's and Iron Fist ults to all allies in front of Gambit and himself, even through fucking walls?? Plus extra shit on top of it. Holy fuck.
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Why is there an exclamation point at the home background screen option? There's nothing new and it wont go away
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>>550999279
You have to click on all the home screens
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>>550999258
>s6 dev video
>hm, it seems like gambit is a little too good, so we'll increase his ult cost by 200
>ignite the battle!
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>>550999497
Yeah I did that, still there. It just magically popped up
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>>550999971
Weird lol
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>pick ultron
>never ever stop shooting enemy gambit in the face
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>>551000419
gambit solos ultron, you larpin'
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>>551000419
he's not in that movie though
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>>550999258
He's legitimately so bad at his job. Either that or he's straight up doing this shit on purpose as a way to manipulate people into buying skins based off some think tank research paper.
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>>551000643
>gambit solos ultron
With what? His 20 damage card or 16s cooldown 70 damage projectile when Ultron is across the map?
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>my hero with best win rate by far is Angela
>hover her
>teammate bans her
this is happening way too often to be silly mistakes
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>>551000870
Genuinely don't know why the game allows your own team to ban characters that someone has preselected
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Jeff is kinda bad now
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>>551001485
Why play the hyper survival healer, with a shit support ult, when invis and gambit does the same thing better?
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>551000865
unplayer larpers are funny
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>>551001485
He went from the worst to at least usable with his ult buff and then became shit by proxy when Gambit got released.
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>>551001674
>hyper survival healer
Doesnt even feel that way at times
his big fat hitbox and head makes him take extra hits it feels like
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Jeff is the easiest support for me to kill on Spiderman
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>>551001774
I wonder where he got the projectile cooldown from, it has to be AI summary shit
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how do you play?
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>>551002443
Max setting as a consoleGOD
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>>551000643
How can Gambit solo a flyer that's shooting from across the map? Do you play the game?
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>>551002275
Math is hard for /mrg/
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>>551001774
How does Gambit kill Ultron across the map with a distance of 30 meters or more, which is the usual distance they're at.
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>>551003174
His reduced healing card does damage? Hilarious, I didn’t even know
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>>551002641
>>551003414
gambit solos your ass, get over it, ultroon
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Ultron is ass. Zero damage and zero healing.
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Hela is the best healer in the game
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Deadpool owes me sex
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>>551004145
fuck off, joki
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I'll never stop petitioning for Tigra
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I'll never stop petitioning for Cyclops
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>>550998174
Wolfsbane would be so based.
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>have to wait until january 16th until the game might be in a playable state again
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>>551004753
not next Season, but the Season after that, it'll be their turn!
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I'll never stop petitioning for my niggas
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>>551005572
this but Dormammu
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>>550996398
>>550996605
obsessed fossil alert
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Should Dazzler be a Vanguard or a Duelist? Personally I think she'd be a fun Vanguard.

-passive charges her with Photon energy to use for her abilities and to power up her primary fire, charges faster when she and her barriers are under fire
-her body is normal sized and proportioned, but she surrounds herself with a personal photon bubble that directs a portion of damage to her Photon Meter and serves as her health
-primary fire is a shotgun burst of photon energy that deals more damage up close and depending on her photon charge, can also charge it to become a beam of energy that pierces opponents but takes more meter
-deploys a Winston-esque Photon Bubble at a targeted location, shields everyone inside until it collapses, has between 200-500 health depending on her meter charge
-enhances her personal bubble into a Destructive Shield, nullifying projectiles and energy attacks
-Blinding Flash that blinds opponents for a few seconds
-Rocket Burst, dashes in the direction she's looking including up into the air
-Ultimate acts like the sonic mine from Star Wars, draws in all sound and then releases a burst of photon energy that damages opponents and shrouds allies in photon energy barriers
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>>551006128
Doesn't matter, Zhiyong will fuck it up like he always does while gaslighting Guang into believing he's working hard.
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>>551000741
Didn’t they already publish some paper like that on eomm?
>>551004365
Calm down rogue
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>>550995085
Hot and cute
>>550994716
Whoever they are they post so infrequently they don’t even have a recognizable gimmick. Which makes sense.
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>>551006128
Dazzler shouldnt be added to the game, I'm sorry. We already have a pop star, and there's an abundance of mutants in the game already with more on the way
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>>551005031
She looks like a Thundercat.
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>>551005572
This but only sinister (although I’ve kind of warmed up to his “wife”)
>>551005515
Silence copetard
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>>551006128
>Should dazzler be a vanguard
No, retard. Next stupid question.
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>>551006128
Realistically anon, she is going to be a healer. Purely because of her looks
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>>551006428
I thought you people wanted every new character to be a vanguard or a strategist.
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>>551006308
>We already have a pop star
We had two people who could fly and they keep adding new ones, also disco is very different from K-pop and their abilities are nothing alike.



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