Hort Defense Force Edition>Previous>>551028636>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSDec 02 Python Commandos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp9ZCgrP8Dec 04 Liberate the Magma Worlds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLX9solUlHgDec 18 Killzone 2 Warbond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O827A3v80GoDec 18 Festival of Reckoning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FDLdCtEf1M>LATEST PATCHESDec 02 1.005.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/491583942944621274Dec 05 1.005.001 (stratagem menu reload crash hotfix)
Destroy that mad squid with AR-20L Justice, best gun for destroying mad squids. Also best gun for destroying mad robots and mad bugs. Best gun in general and overall. She's just that great.
Is the tesla tower the WORST stratagem in the game?
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>>551159082>Best gun in general and overall. >Look inside>semi-auto AP2 dilligence downgrade
>>551159221when did this thing get added? Haven't played in a minute
>>551159212Nah. It's a competition between>One True Flag>Orbital EMS>Solo Silo>FRV>Orbital/Eagle Smoke>any Minefield except Gas>Mortar Sentry>De-Escalator>Expendable Napalm
>muh realism and groundedCool, can I remove the cape?
>>551159521None of those belong anywhere near the flag, It's literally a reskinned stun lance without the stun. The flag is the gutter oil that seeps from the dilapidated highrises of those other stratagems.
You now remember that idiot who was calling in smoke strikes on himself and then complaining that they're useless
>>551159609Sorry sweaty but that's where the 'movie realism' comes in!
>>551159659>It's literally a reskinned stun lance without the stun.>without the stunwho's going to tell him?
>>551159659The Flag takes conscious effort to teamkill. Several of the stratagems on that list will teamkill simply by being on the field.
>>551159521Ok flag is a meme, I forgot about that. I still think Tesla deserves a spot there because I simply see no use case for it. Even FRV has a use occasionally
the girl helldiver voice makes my peepee hard
What's your favourite primary, /hdg/?
>>551159779you clearly don't know the power of the tesla + arc thrower + arc dog build
>>551159895
>>551159897Don't mistake me, arc dog and thrower is good fucking fun. I love seeing those kill counts hit 100s even if it is bugged.I just think Tesla is shit.
>>551159775That at least means those strats have the capability to kill something larger than a scav>>551159779Tesla is incredibly strong, what are you talking about
>>551159659The flag has the stun thougheverbeit. It always had the stun. Swedes quite possibly wanted it to not have stun, but they were literally so fucking lazy that it still does because it's a direct, 1:1 copy of stun lance.Of course it's still a "secondary" melee weapon in your stratagem slot that also takes up a stratagem weapon slot on your back.
>>551159895>Arc shotty that highWhat the fuck, feels like shit every time I try it. Is it just people who hate ammo management?
>>551160119never needs to reload, aims for you, medium pen, stun AND knockbackit's secretly the ultimate bug front primary
>>551160176Don't forget that since bug heads are basically center mass, it also automatically headshots the vast majority of them.
remember to hunt thread boogeymen down and rape and kill them forever or else you're a cuckold
>>551159212It is in fact very good, it's other divers that are the problem.
Less automatons, more cyborgs, I want to see flesh merged with steel, I want to see hulking massive cyborg chicks with star pasties, I want hulking muscular cyborg chicks that can just grab me and lift me up with ease
>Fix the JAR with one easy trick!
>>551161378But it is already medium armor penetrating.
>>551161369Hulking muscular cyborg chicks that don't remember that they're human, but do remember that they're addicted to anal
>>551161541>>551161369Muscular cyborg chicks that captures Helldivers and uses them as personal breeding slaves
>>551158856>Launch Helldivers2.exe today>PC got a bluescreen in the middle of an op>Try it again>VGA made screeching noise before crashingIt's over isn't it
>>551161795You got Sweden'd
>>551161369It's coming.
>>551158856>still no AP3 K***htWhy even live.
>>551161378>>551161459and it already has the same knockback as the lib concno, what it needs is to live up to the little description there and actually do high damage relative to the other primaries in its niche. the deadeye and slugger doing more damage than it with all of its downsides is criminal
>>551157293>fatal error right at the endspooky. ggs bros very comfy
>>551161378>>551163237Which one?>Make it AP4>Make it do more damage (325-350)
>>551163237Deadeye>slower rate of fire>half the mag size with single round reloading that takes an age and a half to completeSlugger>slower rate of fire>single round reloading and barely more than half the total ammo capacity>starts tickling the enemy past 30 meters>>551163606I used to think it would be a good idea if it were to become AP4, but then if it did nobody would use the AMR.
>>551162740And yet I guarantee you people will still goon to soulless AI generated "automaton" girls who're just women painted black and given red eye contacts
rounds reload is as much of an advantage as it is a disadvantage, being able to quickly top up the magazine without wasting rounds and put in a single needed shot instead of having to wait for the entire reload cycle to finish comes in clutchalso,Dominator>bad handling, the worst out of the 3>high spread preventing accurate fire at long ranges>high recoil limiting its practical rate of fire>smoke from projectile obscures follow up shots, also limiting practical rate of fire>not just low projectile velocity but funky projectile velocity making firing at moving or longer ranged targets difficult>lowest damage out of all of them despite supposedly being a weapon that makes trade offs for high damage
>>551163606second one, but also 50% to 66% durable damage ratio instead of the 32% it has now
I haven't cared that much when they nerfed pretty much everything else in this game but when they inevitably nerf the double freedom I will be extremely upsetI wonder what their justification will be for nerfing it
>>551164715>I wonder what their justification will be for nerfing itDo they need one?
to the bros from last thread, my apologies, i intended to join after dinner but my fish borger knocked me out (many fries were had)
I NEED IT
>>551165182I think I saw it floating in my toilet.
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! WHY DID YOU CALL IN EXTRACT ON THE BLITZ WHEN THERES 2 MINS LEFT?!?!?! I NEEEEEEEEED TO RUN TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP TO DO THE SAM ARTILLERY!!!!!!!"
>>551162740>It's coming.... to ruin the Automatons.Have they added any GOOD enemies since factory striders/gunships? I recall everything since they has been pretty shit and not fun to fight again.
>>551165182>literally the anti tank emplacement on tracksthe nerf indians would lose their fucking minds if Arrowhead release it>SAAAAAAAAAR THE BASTION TANK WILL POWERCREEP™ THE FRV
>>551165607>powercreep the FRVnah, the Bastion tank will powercreep both the FRV and "soon to be released" APC
>>551136532What the fuck. Truly anything is possible when Swedes are developers.
>>551163726>I used to think it would be a good idea if it were to become AP4, but then if it did nobody would use the AMR.To be honest I don't think so. JAR's biggest downside of slow as fuck bullets basically preclude it from being that useful as a precision rifle.The bigger issue is nobody would use the Eruptor.
>>551165182>>551165607>>551165893Swiggers won't allow you to have fun without massive trade offs, imagine yourself being a Swede, how will you make the Bastion tank as dog shit as possible for the sake of grunt fantasy?
>>551166185flip it
>>551166185they only let you have one like the original, but you don't have the ammo to actually do anything and the armor is somehow worse performing than the walkers 'by accident'
>>551166185If you fire while turning the shell blows up inside your tank and you explode.
>Finally unlocked D10Now if only I wasn't afraid of joining to the lobby dokoAlso fuck I hate squid sieges, I'd rather do bug dives
>>551166782Make a lobby, rapeable shy anon.
>>551166185>the tank tracks will be light armor (AP2) with 200 HP>the hull will be medium armor (AP3) with 500 HP>the main cannon is destructible (light pen, 50 HP)>the coaxial machine gun will be a Stalwart instead of a HMG>moves slower than the fucking Oshaune GATER oil truck>tank rounds deals half the damage of the Commando rockets with only 25 rounds in reserveArrowhead hire me
>Die because a fucking fleshmob clips through the buildingI hate this dogshit faction so fucking much.
>>551166124The Eruptor still has area clear and spawner destruction capabilities, the draw of the weapon has never been the armor penetration.
>>551164448whoops, meant for>>551163726
really not feeling the dickle desu
All the "realism" balancing decisions makes a lot more sense when you realize AH are basing their military experience off of being a conscript in the Swedish army. The Swedish military is using very outdated equipment and conscripts are going to be given even shittier equipment. No wonder these faggots think a 5 cm piece of metal on the end of a gun is going to make it sway like you're handling a 30 pound gun.
>>551167531Take a reduced fire damage + health booster and you become immune to everything but being set on fire outright by itThen become a god
>>551167531>>551167776also stay prone over 91% heat to continuously instantly put the fire out
>game is too easyThat s true. >balance is a fuck and a lot of things need buffs because they are uselessAlso true.No contradiction. >Factory Striders, underground objectivesGood difficulty>ragdolls, bullet sponges, teh wormNot even difficulty - just tedium. Simple as.
>>551167531it's just cold in here
Remember to get BFA to undo swedish faggotry
>xe use female voice and lean body modelevery time I join a /hdg/ lobby and see that, I will just assume you are a tranny or a faggot, sorry.
meanwhile, I don't notice your character's body type or voice at allI wonder who's the mentally ill one in this scenario
>n-no uok troon
>>551168023>Projection; the post
>>551159221So why the fuck would I use this over the Diligence? Let me guess, because it is "suppressed" (and will still alert enemies to your exact location anyway)
>>551159895>Double Freedom not in your listFor me it's the DF, then Coyote, then Amendment, then the Breaker.
>>551168529>h-he exposing us!>I know! Let's accuse him of being the exact thing he criticized!
>>551168023you have to be extremely autistic to tell apart lean and brawny from a glance
>>551161378It just needs to do more damage so that it fulfills the niche of being good at bodyshotting Devastators, which believe it or not, not many weapons actually excel at IMO. They all take like a minimum of 1/3rd of the magazine just to kill one Dev through bodyshots.
>>551159895where dickle
>>551168752you can literally see it in the stratagem selection screen
>squigger city mission>brown sounding retard with a brown name keeps TKing me >kill him once and he musters up the courage to call me a nigger in voice >spends the rest of the game chasing me around the city as I blow his ass up everytime he gets close>timer runs out and I kill him again for the last time >he ragequits
>>551168023You think about trannies a lot, huh?
>>551165607Lol. The FRV wouldn't be powercrept if it actually worked properly as a fucking RECON vehicle. I've been bringing it into more missions than 99.9% of divers and I'm really good at controlling it but still it feels like shit and I wish it'd weigh like a proper car.
>551168023The only cure for such mental illness is severe beatings.Excellent bait otherwise
>>551166942even the voteless are doing it now too
>>551168896exactly, comparing side by side is easy, in game you have to very autistic to notice a difference
>>551168906>didnt report the voice chatbruh
>>551169379oh I did just for the hell of it
>>551159521>solo silo???
>>551169658Yeah I thought it was alright, just a shame they took away its ability to destroy some objectives
We need another buff patch and warstrider nerf. The game is still too hard.
>>551169994They should have left it at 50 and made the stratagem jammers capable of messing with it so you can still destroy it if you are lucky.>people will just spam them at the jammerAnd waste time and stratagems insted of just clearing it or running in and disabling it.
>>551161378How about it has better ergonomics and handling? I am tired of half of the weapons having like ~30 ergo, it always feels like shit to use, even if the damage is good.
>>551165535The 'new' warstrider is pretty cool. It's only problem being that it should spawn like a tank, instead of having the same spawn rate as hulks
>>551170683Actual skill issue
There should be an armor with a passive for better support weapon reloadsNot strat cooldowns, i mean literally just better reload speeds on the weapons
>>551170990Payroll Management System.
>>551161378Its good.I have no idea why people hate it.It was probably the weapon i enjoyed leveling the most.If id change anything it would be giving it the ability to use special rounds that are selected in the armoury.
>>551170804Okay, Aleksus. I suggest nerfing the other half of weapons to having ~30 ergo, because weapons feeling like shit to handle is "realistic"
>>551159521Half of those are decent>>551159212It's one of the bestYou shitters should try using more than just RR + 500kg + Napalm Barrage + Rocket Sentry all day every day
>>551171102Yeah but I want another 20% stacking from armor
>>551170775It spawns like a tank. It literally replaces them. But tanks are so fucking cucked you don't even pay attention to them
>>551159521>FRV
>>551171494i don't remember 4 tanks ever guarding a POI
>>551165443if im trying to farm, is it actually worth going out of my way to do the side missions or should i stick to main objections only?
>>5511717042-3 War Striders for every tank I'm pretty sure, Jammers that normally have a tank have 2 War Striders
>join mission>get exploded by teammate>drop again>napalm barage>drop again>exploding alien barrel thing>drop again>stuck between stairs and wall>drop again>gunned down by sentry>drop again>manage to walk 5m before getting hit by 4 beam from a leviathan that is so far away the beams are almost parallel to the groundThank you for limiting my ability to steer my hellpod while in cities.I could have evaded almost all of them if i could steer.
>>551171864Side missions give more xp but I also think Blitz gives less xp overall.
>>551168023I love hearing women suffer.
>>551171971You mean youre not laughing hysterically at dying?
>>551171971Grunt fantasy CHUDYou're supposed to die like a virgin over and over
>>551171704>>551171494they replace tanks in the seeds, but they utilize usual heavy spawn zones that are shared with hulks and scout stridersthough I think there's a seed that has war striders and shredders
>>551171971>skill issue>skill issue>skill issue>team issue>skill issue>skill issuePlay better
>>551171971Just a bit of bad luck, no need to cry about it.
https://x.com/helldivers2/status/2003409778341499309My kick button is going to get a nice workout
>>551173995Need that helldivers edit of the hasan shock meme for this one
>>551173995A more focused napalm sounds kind of neat.
Still rather new to this game as a whole, so... anyone got any tips for dealing with enemy spawns from difficulty 8 and above?Currently fighting squids right now, and there's just no end to them in the cities (the maps with random cities, without SEAF troopers' assistance, like full-city maps).I deal with a large horde of votelesses and then turn around to run, just to be met with another horde. Turn around to run again, and then five overseers around the corner, seemingly out of thin air... I don't know what to do but run and then shoot again.
Hello everyone, I am reddit and my wife's boyfriend said you were talking shit about me.
Sway is gay
>>551174269Just kill things quicker or stay near teammates. The enemies have never been weaker than they are now.
>>551174269The squid faction can be solved on its own by the mmg/hmg and the grenade pistol. Just keep on killing and stick with your teammates, if the enemy overwhelms you
>>551174269heres the strats to pick for squibsmmggat turretmg turretfree slot
>>551174269MG Sentry and Guard Dog if you're too special to shoot at a few weak zombies every now and then
>>551174586sway is dev cope for when enemy ai is shit and players can aim
>/hdg/ will not only fail to give basic advice but will act passive aggressive while doing soHeh
As it turns out slapping fire onto a gatling barrage is fun.
>>551174269What sort of loadout are you using, anon? Generally you'll want a snappy primary like the Knight, Lib Carbine, or Liberator for quickly dealing with hordes, or use either the Stalwart or MG. You'll also want some way to kill overseers and the occasional fleshmob.
>>551174804>>551174884>>551174897>>551175006Thank you for the advices. I currently only have the MG-43 and a few orbitals, still don't know where to aim to kill those fleshmobs and overseers quickly though...Matching up with random players since my friend isn't online rn and they seem to just...ditch and abandon, I fail to catch up often times.
>>551176290host a lobby and post it here/hdg/ is more than happy to babysit newfags
>>551176406I want to join too. I only use 500kg eagle, 380mm HE, and napalm barrage.
>>551174269>>551176290You can avoid being swarmed by simply quick checking the mini-map, and reposition as you see fit. As you may have noticed maps are also filled with ammo and other consumables, meaning you are hardly without ammo most of the time.If you are afraid of voteless hordes, guard dogs can carry you all the time. In regard to fleshmobs, simply open fire, think like its a rodeo and go for the legs. Don't be afraid of using grenades either.
>>551174269Cope with placing sentries in safe locations so you can fall back to them until you find a way to deal with hordes and/or move through them.Learn to check your radar often so you can track enemy movements.Id recommend bringing the stalwart, eat, orbital gatling barrage and the machine gun sentry.EATs ohk harvesters in the upper leg section that is right under the main body, also ok for stingrays (aircraft).Stalwart is great at killing all other units.Orbital Gatling Barrage can destroy grounded warpships if you throw them on top of them or a bit under them, use it first instead of grenades since its basically free.
>>551176593haha that's so epic
Is the gunslinger perk good enough to treat the sidearm as a primary?
no more Heeth..please..I beg you..
>>551177826absolutely notyou still get sway out the wazoo and the rest of the buffs are either not working or inconsequential
>>551174269Stalwart + Gun dog (flying drone)Become the gun-platform.
>>551177826it used to be...
>>551178641retard
>>551178798newfag
>>551178881dumb fuck>reload speedlol>weapon swap speeddid the opposite of its intended effect >recoilwhat recoil?
>>551178943you don't have to keep self-reporting
>>551177826fuck no, you're better off using the gunslinger emote for quick draws than the actual armor
>>551161378>Sickle mag, x10 scope.Eat bolt gun!
>>551181049That's too hard, can you lower it to 4 or 5?
>>551180530Sorry, there's that one silly armor passive so now every gun has to do 9999 damage and we need to add wizards to the game
>>551175940Very reddit-coded behavior ngl
>console shitters ae so stupid they get filtered by the LIDAR Station 'puzzle'Crossplay is going back OFF and this time its staying OFF
>>551178257>HeethPeak GM design.>>551182420I blame people for being lazy and not trying this on lower difficulties and just to remember reverse logic, i.e. turn right for counterclockwise.
If (You) were given free reign to make balance changes, what would you do?Nerf, buff, rework, doesn't matter, I just want to know what you would change given the chance
>>551185109I dunno, seems like a lot of work. Probably just give railgun penetration. Kinda retarded that it can't go through shit
>>551185109I would bring back run divers and "tanky" enemies. But would make the enemies faster and have longer range so that way even running won't save you.
>>551185109I want to give las cannon a damage ramp up like Dickle so that its actually worth a damn as an anti-heavy weapon
wait are redditors really saying that the eruptor is the most balanced weapon in the game? fucking grim if true
>>551185109Female helldiver bikini armor.
>>551186121make it a microbikini and I'm in
i would like more players per match, i should be dodging friendly strategems all times
>>551159521QRD on why deescalator is bad? Isn't it just the grenade launcher + arc damage?
>>551176290One of the reasons some people don't like squids is simply because they're stupidly tough and are hard to kill quickly. Generally you can kill Overseers with headshots, but only if you have a medium pen weapon, otherwise you just plaster their center mass until they fall over. Fleshmobs are much the same thing, they have no actual weak points though you can blow up their heads for increased damage. You can kill them with pure raw DPS or try to use explosives like an Autocannon to splash damage to multiple body parts at once.As for people running from fights, yeah, that tends to happen against all factions. If the enemies aren't between you and an objective, there's zero reason to try to kill them, so you may as well not waste your time. Just break off, kill the fast ones that are able to catch up (mainly Elevated Overseers), and catch up to your teammates. If you're having trouble catching up, it might be because you're wearing heavy armor that's slowing you down, but otherwise a mobility backpack like the Jump Pack can be a major equalizer.
>>551186117>terrible ergonomics + yuuge potential for team and self ACK = Balanced (tm)You cant refute this formula. Dont even try.
>>551185109buff the shitter weapons to the baseline of the current meta and raise bot accuracy
>>551186937>stun gimmick>excellent at killing players, unreliable at actually chain killing enemies>can reload the GL three times in the time it takes to load the de escalator once
>>551185109Nerf RRNerf ACNerf SpearNerf RailgunNerf AMRNerf LCNerf EATsNerf Arc throwerNerf MaxigunNerf HMGNerf MGNerf StalwartNerf LiberatorNerf CoyoteNerf DiligenceNerf Diligence Counter SniperNerf AmendmentNerf ConstitutionNerf PunisherNerf DominatorNerf ReprimandNerf DefenderNerf PacifierNerf double freedomNerf crossbowNerf EruptorNerf DominatorNerf SickleNerf DickleNerf ScytheNerf Plasma PunisherNerf ScorcherNerf PurifierNerf thermitesNerf dynamiteNerf UltimatumNerf Grenade PistolNerf DaggerNerf PeacemakerNerf gasNerf fireNerf stunNerf boosters
>>551185109My very first act would be this >>551162876Just change it from 90/18 AP2 to 75/15 AP3, now you have a one-handed AP3 bullet hose SMG, and the StA-11 from the Killzone warbond can be the same for AP2.Electrical Conduit, Acclimated, Adreno-Defibrillator and Desert Stormer armors (basically, all armors with arc resist) can now move in EMS fields without getting slowed down, and don't get slowed by stun effects (they still lose stamina though).Give the Spear a direct-fire firing mode instead of top-down, and modify most heavies in the game so that they have a top hitbox that's weaker and can result in an instant kill from the Spear (or any AT weapon that can get a positional advantage from above).Reduce Orbital Railcannon cooldown from 180 to 165.Eagle Strafing Run armor pen reduced back to AP4.Eagle Rocket Pods inner splash radius increased from 1.6m to 3m, outer splash from 5m to 7m, shockwave from 8m to 10m. Just give it slight area clear around the target so that if it doesn't target a heavy it at least has a chance to kill/maim a number of chaff in a small-ish area. Maybe also make each rocket pod target individually so that if the first target dies then the second and third can possibly get more kills.Fix the firing arcs on the FRV so that the mounted HMG doesn't automatically kill any teammates leaning out of the seats.OPS cooldown reduced from 90 to 70, so that after all upgrades it can be used roughly once every 60 seconds.Orbital Smoke cooldown from 100 to 60.Grenadier Battlement can rotate a full 360 degrees, and the wall rotates with the player.All regular Minefields now deploy 18 mines instead of 48 and over a smaller area, but cooldown is reduced from 120 to 60. Mines also self-disarm after 120 seconds.Anti-Tank Mines will now detonate against medium enemies as well as heavies, and won't get triggered by corpses.Mortars only fire 2 round salvos instead of 3.
>>551187623QUASAR KINGS WE EATIN
>>551188283One True Flag is completely changed/overhauled. Instead of a reskinned Stun Lance, it is now a "hand shield" like in the tutorial but provides an aura buff (increased damage dealt, decreased damage taken, increased stamina recovery) to all players and SEAF Soldiers within around 30 meters. If you carry it in your hand instead of on your back, the buff is stronger as a trade-off for using a one-handed weapon.Laser Sentry lifetime duration is doubled, if you can keep it alive it will actually be able to help you hold ground over long periods of time but can't just be tossed on the map and forgotten and won't be OP on bricks missions.Expendable Napalm cooldown from 140 to 95 seconds.Lib Concussive does a 5 damage AP2 explosion with a shockwave radius of 3 meters and stagger force of 25 with each round. It will deal negligible damage, but can at least crowd control in an area.StA-52 gets an underbarrel shotgun attachment. Hell, give all of the Killzone and Halo weapons the ability to have attachments.Speaking of attachments, give us stock attachment options, within reason.Re-modify stun and fire status effect so that the Pacifier, Pummeler, Cookout and Breaker Incendiary can actually inflict their status effectively.Allow the Stim Pistol to self-heal but at half the efficiency as it does teammates. Also allow it to heal SEAF Soldiers.Give us the SEAF Soldier stratagem, a shuttle arrives and hovers over the area while 4 SEAF Soldiers rappel down and then follow your commands. They can pick up EATs off of the ground or hellpods, and follow the regular rules for civilian teamkill penalties and traitor status.
What should I be doing as a newbie? I've just been slowly upgrading my ship and going through the warband
>>551186937As the other anon pointed out, the stun/arc just doesn't feel effective. And as much as I like it, the 6 round revolving chamber and one-at-a-time reload scheme makes it significantly slower than the regular Grenade Launcher, so the stuns that you're landing don't feel very worth it relative to how long it takes to reload the thing.I would like it more if the stuns had actual utility. Like, have it create a small and short-lived EMS field in the impact area that can stop all chaff and medium enemies and some heavies. I don't even care if it doesn't do more damage, just give it the actual crowd control that was advertised.
>reddit spacing
>>551189617You're doing it right. Upgrade your ship, unlock stuff in the warbond(s), unlock more stratagems. Generally you should also be trying to gradually increase the difficulty that you play at, since it offers more opportunities for rewards, which reduces the grinding time. But the most important thing is to just learn the game and get better. Play all the factions, learn enemy weaknesses, familiarize yourself with the game's mechanics, find a favorite weapon, and so on.
>>551188283>>551189378>Almost all buffsIs the game really not easy enough for you at this point? You already play D10 with zero issue or trouble so why make the game even more brain dead?
>>551190125buffing bad weapons won't make the game easier, it will just bring those weapons up to the standards of existing weapons
>>551190338>bring those weapons up to the standards of existing weaponsThat standard is too high anon, that's the problem. For fucks sake the new shotgun one taps chargers.
>>551190125>t. awful nerftranny impersonation
>>551190125>increase gameplay variety by making worthless stratagems and weapons actually usable>this is somehow a bad thing
>>551190503>One tap charger in its weakpoint you had to exposeOh boy it's this one fag again. You better not engage this guy, it's pointless.
What if we do it.... again ?
You can kill an impaler with one (uno) liberator mag
>>551190000nice quadsAre there any must-have stratagems? Otherwise I'll prioritize unlocking stratagems other stratagems last
>>551190843>genicide 600 million>in how many days?Mama mia, thats'a....IMPOSSIBLE
>>551190674It's 2 shells on regular chargers so 1 shot in volley mode3 shells for behemoths
>>551190843>choose 600k instead of 200kWhy is this playerbase like this ?
>>551191158There's a lot more bugs to kill than botsThe squid would actually be the easiest because voteless count and it isn't that much higher than the bot numbers
>>551191158What are you whining about now, MOnkey? Shut the fuck up and get back to work.
>>551190527Ok tranime troon>>551190546What is the point of varaity if the game has no challenge? Why are you even playing?>>551190674>Ignores my main point and then runs away.
>>551191303just spam eradicate on d5 lots of chaffs there, averaging 6 min completion for 200+ kills is pretty nice
>>551190674>ExposeJust walk around them and blow their butt up.
https://helldivers-calculator.netlify.app/should add this to the OP it's pretty good and saves a lot of time
>>551191393I haven't played for the past 3 weeks, I like to watch and call out the most obvious retarded shit to make people like yourself seethe :)
>>551191584Damn chargers really are just a chaff enemy.
>I haven't played for the past 3 weeks, I like to watch and call out the most obvious retarded shit to make people like yourself seethe :)
>>551191810i look like this and say things like that
>>551190843I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR FUCKING MEDALSI DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR NEW RED STRATAGEMSGIVE ME ACTUAL NEW CONTENT LIKE NEW MODES NEW ENEMIES NEW FUN GUNS TO USE
I just love the railgun bros I don't know what else to say I just love it
>>551190905The only things you really have to worry about are having access to anti-tank weaponry, and having access to medium armor penetration (colloquially called AP3).In terms of AT, all it really means is eventually unlocking access to the Recoilless Rifle, with Expendable Anti-Tank and Quasar Cannon being flavor options. Learning to manage AT weaponry (or red stratagems) is crucial for long-term enjoyment of the game, you don't really need it at low difficulties since heavies don't actually spawn in bases and on patrols until medium difficulty, but at higher difficulties you'll probably encounter at least one or two heavies with each patrol so you'd best get used to it.Medium armor pen is mostly a thing you worry about against bots and squids. The MG-43 you got for free at the start of the game already does that, but there are primary weapons and the like which can also do it so you can have more variety in your loadout. You also have to balance that with your ability to quickly kill chaff (the weakest enemies that always attack in waves of a dozen plus at a time), which light armor pen weapons are generally better at doing. At the end of the day, the main thing you want to do is ensure your team has a good balance of weaponry to deal with all types of enemies, and not be too over-specialized so as to not deal with either spectrum of enemy type effectively (not too much anti-tank, not too much chaff clear).As for upgrading your ship, it's mainly up to you, but some stratagem types just outright suck until you have a certain upgrade. For example, the Eagle is almost useless until you get Expanded Weapons Bay (you go from one Eagle 500kg use per rearm to two), and Orbital barrages are less useful without Zero-G Breech Loading. In the long run the one you probably want ASAP is Superior Packing Methodology, but in the short term it's best to focus on the stratagem type you like most and upgrade to level 3 in that, then focus on the rest afterward.
>66% of players downbad for medalsJesus Christ... why don't you just join chinkhacker lobbies
Hey Milsim trannies, explain THIS.
>>551192384what's in the QR code?
>>551192384is this..... a HRT syringe ?!?!
Have you heard the good news of our lord and savior Epoch?
>>551192696>Have to reloadNyet I EAT good
>>551190125Agreed, they forgot to nerf the Eruptor, Crossbow, Purifier, and Thermites.
>>551159509it hasn't. It was leaked a few months ago
>>551192696>damage dropoff>hard-maximum range
So... how's the incendiary gatling barrage?
>>551192696If it didn't take 5 business days to charge up it'd be good. Same problem as the Quasar
>>551193071it's a better napalm aistrike on bots, about the same thing as a napalm airstrike on bugs
>>551189378>>551190125All right, sure, let's have some more buffs:Shrieker Nests and Spore Spewers now require 40 demolition force to destroy, so you can't just AT them from a distance.Illegal Broadcast Towers can no longer be destroyed and have to be shut down at the base.Bricks missions now spawn 50% more enemies per wave.All Fabricators now require 40 demolition force to destroy at D9 and above, so AT can't damage or destroy them anymore.Bot rockets splash radius (Rocket Raider, Rocket Devastator, Gunship, Hulk Bruiser) increased by 50%, resulting in a splash radius that's 30% of where it was pre-nerf.All Tank speeds increased by 50%.Gunships again automatically spawn from Gunship Facilities when a player gets within 200 meters of them, and will also automatically deploy a pair of Gunships to a Bot Drop location.Way too much to list for squids, but in general they need more enemy types, they need an open world map with no colonies or cities, they need more main and side mission objectives, and they need the D10 Mega Fort.Overhaul the Leviathan so that it's a meaningful threat and destroying it is rewarding:Greatly reduce its ability to snipe from across the map, make it super inaccurate at long ranges but more accurate at closer ranges.Halve the strength and accuracy of the lasers, and give it back the projectiles it used to have so that it can fire both of those at once. Also don't make all of the lasers fire at once at the same spot, make each of them individually try to target the player.Give it a shield generator like Harvesters but much stronger, so that the shield has to be collapsed before we can damage it. Put the generator body part somewhere harder to hit.When it detects players underneath, it automatically warps down a patrol.Make one or two at a time persist on the map instead of pathing to enter and leave the map. When one is killed, give a small experience and requisition bonus and don't spawn it again for 3-5 minutes.
>>551159895M90 shotty
>all destruction objectives must be destroyed with the Hellbomb (Portable Hellbomb does not count)>Leviathan now spawns in Automaton and Terminid missions
Brick missions need to be deleted or completely overhauled. All 3 factions should have their own distinct maps and attack strategies.Too much effort for swiggers though.
Bring back the old Evacuation mission. There, I said it.
>>551194689>just toss some minefields and sit around doing nothing until the mission is won>or>get overwhelmed by literally a half-dozen Bile Titans or Factory Striders that take multiple AT headshots to kill each and which just walk between reinforcement hellpods chain-killing the team until the mission is lost>no inbetweenYou know, with advancements in AT effectiveness, it might actually be possible to consistently win these things now. That and the addition of the FRV lets people actually leave the compound to search around the map in a meaningful amount of time.
>>551158856wow this guy's art is very raped and toony. He seems like one of those artists that will potentially be drawing masterpieces 5 years from now though.
>>551159895Lib Pen.
When will they fix the enemies’ audio?
>>551198173>Not enjoying the kino of being assaulted by ninja enemies and audio-hallucinationsCome on anon...
>>551159895Slugger
>>551197265SHE NEEDS TO BE MATING PRESSED BY A BIG HUNG NO ARMOR ILLUMINATE FROM A JUNGLE PLANET
>UBGLs are now implemented>> in the same update, they reworked the killzone stuff into a proper warbond and added a bit of stuff to it>>>the StA-52 still doesn't have its underbarrel shotgunWHY!??
>>551191158>kLearn how numbers work before insulting anyone else.
>>551198173>xhe isn't playing with a yt video in xer headphoneswhat enemy audio?
When someone says "retard" does a specific player come to mind for you? For me it was some idiot that kept following me and complaining about my gasdog. Honestly a "bitch just stop following me" moment. Never had another player before or since have a problem.
>>551200326some bugdiver guy larping as a hardcore operator while complaining that people brought anything but absolute meta gear along every time he died, which happened a lot
>finishing up bug mission>stalker lair at extract keeps shitting out a stalker every ten seconds>get jumped by a five-stack stalker rape train which then wipes the entire squad because nobody else speaks english to heed my warning >breach and two pincering patrols directly on extract cause why not, death spiral ensues>have to solo my way to the stalker lair and kill 8 of the fuckers myself because again, team no speaky engrish>went from 18 reinforcements down to 3 True story.
>>551200480What was not meta according to him?
>>551200994How is d7 treating you anon hope you're having fun with the game!
>Stalkers can burrowAll right, that's a new one on me.
>>551200072600 > 200 ?! OMG NO WAY
>>551201393where's your cool story then? or are you just mad people are having fun and you aren't?
>the toxic male urge to fight every wandering enemy in sight even when its leading you absolutely nowhere >the toxic male urge to fight every reinforcement wave no matter how much time is left in the mission>the toxic male urge to fight to the death like its the Alamo despite the fact that the evac shuttle is literally right next to you
>>551202001I hope you're just trolling and aren't actually this stupid. Otherwise I'm going to assume you're a retarded zoomer raised on box multiplication and can't read clocks.
>>551202615hit the nail on the head huh
>AH punishing bugdivers by making them fight the colon rupture strain over the entire holidaysDiabolical
>>551203571>chainsaw damages diggers under the groundOh yes....
>>551204762my apples!
>>551202996I just looked up box multiplication. TKD can't happen soon enough.
>Endless loadscreen at the end of the mission again
testing incendiary gatling barrage on marfarksteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242532764913/76561198141964882
>>551205764>he doesn't return to ship alone even when playing with friendslol, you deserve it
>>5512061063/4!
>>551206106FVLL!
>furry lobby full in 4 minutes
>>551206909it's the discord.
>>551206909Furfriends rule this shit!
sex with anthro women
wow i bet it's because it's a furry lobby and not because it's the only lobby that's been posted in five hours
>>551207165hmoba
>>551187105>raise bot accuracyand raise player health by 800% or add actual armor values for helldivers
>>551192342why dont swiggers just make medals more plentiful?
>>551207686>human male on bionicle av-matoranbased!
>>551199627Christmas vacation + dinner time(surströmming served on naked baconator)
>>551208774Imagine the smells...
So it's just better gatling barrage?
>>551210047that's what all of them are. base strat+, it isn't that complicated, anon.
>>551210047>>551210940I would not be unhappy if we got to pay Rare or Super Samples to activate each of these on a per-mission basis. So long as it isn't tied to the DSS and on a 24 hour window restriction, because limiting the current effects like that just fucking sucks.
>>551209704
>>551191158It would take the same amount of time if the bugchasers went to marfark since they don't know how to fight bots.
>>551193337I would love it if it did additional arc damage instead of the lame stun effect.
>>551211117>So long as it isn't tied to the DSSFuck I just realized that's exactly what it's gonna be right? That's the upgrades to the DSS they are doing.
>>551213871could be, but that puts them in an interesting situation - right now those strats are coming from the player destroyers not the station. if they changed that, it would be kind of shitty
>>551208238because muh realism
LOBBY DOKO
Dead threadDead gameRetvrn to /copeg/
>>551214918It'll be like the new 380 support where the DSS simply supplies the ammo for the new strat to destroyers when active.
>>551208238yikeslet me guess, you expect your primary to kill enemies too bigot?
>>551220034>swigger game>expect dissatisfaction>???>profit
Im just gonna climb into a striders womb and go to sleep until arrowhead does something
>>551221283I don't quite understand what you meant with this post, anon. Could a drawfag please illustrate this to help retards like myself get a better idea of whats being described here?
>>551213871From the little lore bits we've gotten from MO wins, the upgrade is likely to be something along the lines of allowing the DSS to affect all planets within a sector, as opposed to a single planet. That might actually be very handy in the future, since then we can vote for entire sectors instead of individual planets, and isolate specific planets more easily due to having DSS presence there.
>>551223839We already know what the star of peace is gonna be anon our own death star
>>551223383I hope this enlightens you
>actually useful on every front >infinite ammo>literal pinpoint accuracy>sets enemies on fireOdd no one calls for nerfing it.
>>551227598>>sets enemies on fireUh oh, looks like you strayed more than 15 meters from the host!
>>551227598You forgot one critical issue>absolute ass DPS
>>551227598It is absolutely not a good gun for all factions. It's only good use is on botfront, where you destroy the shitter units, pop dev heads, and blow off rocket striders' rockets in a second of sustained fire. The DPS doesn't account you for the ability to do anything against units tankier than a Wilbur by shooting at weakpoints that kill those enemies in a second or less.
>>551228153Negated by point three since it shreds most weakpoints due to the durable damage. It only does shit DPS if you bodyshot with it like a retard.
>>551228153It has super pinpoint accuracy and zero recoil on top of inflicting zero flinch on enemies, so it's actually super good at targeting weak points on enemies. That means the DPS is purely optional unless you're trying to melt center mass like an idiot.
>>551229020they should double its dps anyway
>>551228807It shreds on squids if you aim for heads or legs on voteless. And it is now specifically good at dealing with fleshmobs since it can take out the faces pretty consistently. I find really on squids it only has some trouble with large groups of overseers because they can be erratic and their weakpoints are really odd so if there is a group you will probably be running hot. And bugs are much of the same, literally an aim check outside of chaff it cripples legs on literally everything that isn't a charger.
>>551228867>durable damage70 dps durable is not very good. The bog standard Liberator does like 250 durable per second.
But what if?
>>551223839Pretty fucking pointless if we're going to end up chucking the DSS into Meridia not long from now anyways
What if we got a warbond based on making new energy weapons based on bot weapons that use their laser bolts?
>>551229657Give it double incendiary shotguns
>>551226606Thats very intriguing. Thank you anon, you've given me a lot to think about.
>>551229934you again?
>>551229342>It shreds on squids if you aim for heads or legs on voteless.A pathetic statement. That's like saying "it shreds Wilburs if you aim for their heads" given the voteless are the shitters of the illuminates. You hose them down without a thought using the lib carbine and move on instead of using your brain energy to actually needle the thread with the trash mobs.
>>551229342>It shreds on squids if you aim for heads or legs on votelessyou know what else shreds the voteless?just about every other gun in the game other than the bolt/lever action rifles
>>551159895The beam laser rifle
>>551229657>spams incendiary grenades>double conflagration shotguns This thing would probably single handedly kill any populations on incel corps planets.
>>551229657>cannons shoot the incel corp hulk firebombs at a constant pace (and they have perfect tracking like firebomber hulks)>grenades are IMPACT incendiaries
>>551230246whats a wilburs
>>551231550It's the nickname for terminid scavengers.
The Christmas Offensive is going well, I wonder if BotGODS will get all the northern sectors as well
>taking jammer>other guy dies>spends the next few minutes just spamming the reinforce request button despite everyone being within the jammerWhat causes this?
>>551229657I think every unit needs to have alternate versions for every sub factionHow hard could it even be to just change the weapons of every enemy to something fitting like giving the rocket devs incendiary rockets or putting a flamethrower on a rocket strider
>>551232343can't you just call them a scavenger then
>>551232343I have literally never seen or heard them be called that before now
RELEASE THE HELLDIVERS 2 FILES
do you guys buy premium currency? or is it still possible to farm supercredits
>>551234729>it still possible to farm supercreditswhy wouldn't it be?farmed some 850 just a couple days ago right here on /hdg/.
>>551229657I still want a hover strider. Replace the grenade launchers with hover packs and have it float above your cover shooting you with those ragdoll laser cannons. Would make the Jet Brigade not a complete joke.
>>551234729farming is good enough. even if you bought SuperCredits, you still need a fuckton of medals to actually purchase the items within bonds for. farming takes care of both. D1(better for SC] or D10(better for medals) moon biome with FRV + AMR/Ultimatum/Crossbow/Eruptor/Grenade launcher/Impact grenades makes for easy container opening. use mech or warp pack to glitch into 2 man doors while solo.
>>551233796Epsteins Super Destroyer
>>551235958>glitch into 2 man doorsI wouldn't call it a glitchyou can phase through city walls and shit, feels actually intended.
>but what if
>>551193047>he isnt standing behind the signlooks like no amount of fame can undo his faggotry in the grove>>551235958medals are easy tho, just d10
>>551236997NOOOO WE CAN'T HAVE A WEAPON BE DECENT IT NEEDS TO BE WORSE THAN THE DEFAULT SHOTGUN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>551229657Acceptable if they make it vent heat while moaning like a whore after it attacks a few times
>>551237201you vil eat the side grades
>>551236782the mech way is absolutely not intended and warp pack was most likely a gigantic hind sight type thing.
>Payday 1 and 2 was developed on an engine intended for racing gamesWHY THE FUCK ARE SWEDES LIKE THIS
>>551238135That reminds me of TF2. Except they forgot that in most cases, the default weapon is better than all the side grades
>>551238284because that's how engines work? like how Unreal Engine is no longer for shootbangs only
>>551238909Why a fucking engine designed for racing though?
>>551239317the only license they could afford probably
>>551233557That's a longer word to type and lacks personality.
>>551239317Overkill (payday devs) happen to be a bunch of old developers from the studio Grin, that made the engine for their racing game, and later modified it for Tom Clancy's GRAW, and later the 3D-rendition of Bionic Commando, to name a few, so they just went with it because it was familiar toolset and structuresome old Grin devs would also go on to make Bitsquid, the very engine that powers both Helldivers 2 and Vermintide/Darktide
>>551239837so by proxy you could think Helldivers is built on an engine meant for racing but judging by the FRV, this isn't the case
>The ideal way to see the most action in Helldivers 2 is to be the host/follow the host and only do main objective/anything in the path towards the objective, without ever separating, then extract.40 minute missions were a mistake.
>doing super helldive liberate Frostown>Shoot down an incoming bot ship>It crashes into another ship>That crashes into a tank>One of that ship's engines goes flying and bodies 2 hulksI fucking love this game.
>sidegrades are le bad>old gear falling behind is also badYou are aware these two are contradictory right?
What's the go to grenade on higher difficulties? Been using high explosive but it's underwhelming. Thermite is nice for killing big guys (4u) but there has to be more.
>>551236997Sorry, Commisar Kai said it's fine so we won't be changing it
>>551240195>our 4 player online coop game doesn't function correctly if you're one of the 3 other playersOne would expect this be an all hands on deck fix it now situation but I doubt they're even aware
>>551240195People still separate on Blitz, genius.
>>551240195Dont tell me, you NEED more?
Im just going to say it. Bugs are more fun than bots.Both are more fun than squids.
>>551240195>Complains about being near the host>Wont host because he knows the game will be more difficult if he doesLower the difficulty
>charge-up>mediocre damage for an AT weapon>inaccuratethese three downsides together make the epoch pure shit
Imagine if you could play the new content>No FOMO game>Look inside>FOMO missions
Once Arrowhead is finally buckbroken and removes all realism SLOP then and only then should they start to increase the difficulty.
>>551241754What is "realism slop?"
>>551241754this is unironically correctrealism for swee, unless it's beneficial to me
>>551240195That is what the game is. I don't understand the bitching.
>>551242160retard
What if they did an EYE crossover?
>>551242215What are you bitching about? Some bug or the nature of what a co-op game is?
>>551241754This. We need more arcade style missions where everybody stands in a circle and enemies spawn 30 feet away all around us.
What's everyone's favorite looking armor?
>>551242653retard
>>551242972I don't think you even know yourself.
>>551243158retard
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242562123361/76561198141964882I am once again ready to game
>>551240496Oh, I'm sure they're perfectly aware. They can't not be when all the people in their influencer program have been shitting on them constantly about such things. No. The reality pill is that they just don't fucking care if the game is bugged to high hell and back.
>>551242723>This. We need more missions where the game plays itselfNo we don't. Bring back Rapid Acquisition, and make Hulks and War Striders AP5
>>551242932There'd be a whole bunch of them if we could change the colors.As it stands, Groundbreaker.
>>551243198FULL!!!!
>>551240558The optimal way of playing that mission out sees you in and out in less than 5 minutes, though. Full clearing is pointless. You probably spend more time in the mission setup/loadout selection/loading screen(dive)+(extract) than you actually playing the map. Garbage mission type, honestly.
>>551242932For pure aesthetics it's gotta be field chemist. I also like the way the Kodiak armor looks.
>>551243172Watch as I turn a reply into a>>55124XXX (You)retard
>>551243529retard
>>551242932>>551243503Picrel
>>551243576ABRACADABRA ALAKAZAM!
>>551243761retard
>>551242160>I don't understand the bitching.The bitching is because the community of retards in pubs specifically do not play the game that ideal way, making it a worse experience. I want the game to be throwing all the spawns at me, but I can't unless I follow the host. So if the host is a retard that runs around like a headless chicken then I am stuck with them slow walking through the map taking the full 40 fucking minutes to extract. And if you host, then you get soloniggers running off to do full clear autistic shit that doesn't fucking matter and ends up triggering reinforcements that cuck me out of spawns to fight. The game is broken on a fundamental level to the point where I would have to kick soloniggers and laser focus main objective then extract to have any semblance of hordes out of the horde shooter game.
>>551243420>"I want every game to be a minmax speedrun!"Play in a private lobby then.
WHAT THE FUCK THE AMR GOT POWERCREPT BY THE AUTOCANNON, THE MMG GOT POWERCREPT BY THE HMG, THE STALWART GOT POWERCREPT BY THE MMG, THE EAT POWERCREPT THE COMMANDO, NERF THEM ALL TO THE FUCKING GROUND NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWWWWWW OR THIS GAME IS FUCKING DOOMED!
>>551244359The Commando was powercrept the moment those fags made Fabricators killable. It had one niche and they ruined it
>>551242269>Stims now have a chance to poison you if your health is too low>Bear Killer is an Anti-Tank Senator>HS 010 is the Knight + Redeemer>CAW Hammer is a medium pen Breaker>It's true I killed the host, and yet I am not his murderer
>>551244258>"I absolutely need to turn that lidar dish and loaaaaaaaaaaaaaddd every fucking artillery shell and waste everyone else's time with those worthless garbage objectives."No. You're getting kicked, nigger.
>>551244805>Hosts public lobby>Gets red in the face and shits his diaper when people play the game normally.Play in a private lobby.
>>551242932I like having the prosthetics.
>all objective buildings can now be destroyed, including terminals and the extraction beacon>destroying a side objective building or terminal makes it uncompleteable>destroying a main objective results in mission failure>the pelican can now be destroyed, ending the mission immediately There , I fixed your game.
>>551243967it's a multiplayer game (i.e., your experience is not more important than the other 3 players). If this bothers you enough to illicit a tantrum, consider playing solo or finding another game that caters to antisocial autistic children such as yourself
>>551245134>"What if retards can ruin the game for everyone?"
>>551244805Why are you playing a game if you don't want to actually play the game? Unless you have an emergency or something what reason is there to not finish everything in a mission?
>>551244805>and loaaaaaaaaaaaaaddd every fucking artillery shellBut there is a mini-nuke which will allow us to do an objective even faster.
>>551243967Sounds like you should play in a private lobby.
>>551245134
>>551245134>pelican coming in>lands a bit weird>humps the LZ a lil bit>explodes into ball of fire>mission failedfrankly i'm surprised this isn't already a feature
>>551245235Turning a lidar dish and looaaaaaaading arties isn't playing the game. Honest, neither is destroying spawners, considering most people just throw reds at them too, and reds are "plays the videogame for you" cuckold shit.
>>551245235we have actual autists here that treat this game like a full time job
>>551245229>What if retards were responsible for their actionsI see why you wouldn't like that
>>551245589>Joins your lobby>Blows up the main objective >LeavesAre you having fun?
>>551243198>>551243396>fills in 2 minutes4chan is a furry site
>finally reach level 25>okay lets do a bit of super credit grinding with the car>go to desert planet>car flips on a large ditch>okay a bit more rocky than most of the time let me run that back with the jetpack>load up flag raise mission>sentry destroys my jetpack drop while trying to kill automatons>car slips while going down a hill and flipsnearly uninstalled this fucking game>>551245014there's no point to do side objectives EXP is worthless after 25 and you should have enough requisitions slips for a good setup after the first 20 hours
>>551245764Play in a private lobby or are you saying you cant solo and need 3 people to carry you? In which case, beggars cant be choosers.
>>551243967>then you get soloniggers running off to do full clear autistic shit that doesn't fucking matterIt matters more to most of the game than your killcount.
>NOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME THE WAY I WANT!!! I'M THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!
>>551245764>jetpack gone from sentry>against automatonsI think you're just retarded anon, have you tried not dropping inside the red zones?
>>551245661>Makes a webm, name-drops you, everyone kicks you the moment your faggot ass dares to join a lobby, end up being forced to change your pathetic nickname if you want to play hereThis sounds more and more like it should be a thing
>if you use reds, youre a shitterOooohhhh, you BAD!
>>551245939>end up being forced to change your pathetic nickname if you want to play here>Changes my nickname>Joins your lobby>Blows up main objective>LeavesAre you having fun?
>>551245939>and then I woke up
>>551245587>Wanting to have as many enemies on the screen as possible to fight in the mission instead of spinning a fucking lidar dish or loading an artillery - literal wageslave busywork - is treating the game like a job.Holy Reddit.
>>551243967Play helldivers 1 and stop fucking complaining like a goddamn sissy bitch
None of this shit flinging matters because you faggots know for a fact you wouldn't do shit, I have never seen anyone getting kicked for doing the SEAF cannon side objective or being a solonigger in /hdg/ lobbies
there are actually "people" itt that will have a melty because you play the game
>>551246051>Joins your lob->Unable to join lobby, you're blocked
>>551245932it was a trivial mission and i was using it as a backup to traverse the map for super credits read the post and get some context clues retard
>>551245661>Makes a note of your name in recent players list.>Joins your next session.>Teamkills you over and over again like the nigger that you are.Yes. I am having fun.
It's probably the same guy that complains about killing charger in its weak point using basic bitch liberator
>>551246274>>551246294>*Marries Saudi Prince*>He buys me a new copy of Helldivers 2 on a new steam account>Joins your lobby >Blows up main objective>LeavesAre you having fun?
>>551246234>I have never seen anyone getting kicked for ... being a solonigger in /hdg/ lobbies>He doesn't know
>>551246296>It's probably the same guy that complains about killing charger in its weak point using basic bitch liberatoromg chargers are literally chaff nowyou should need at least AT to damage one, and it should take 3 hits with an RR to kill the charger no matter where you hit it
>>551245830>It matters more to most of the gameIt literally do not. Full clear doesn't affect liberation. Only the main objective does.
>>551246279If you're "losing" a jetpack like that on a 40min D2, which btw you can track any equipment dropped by looking at the minimap to see where it went, and raging from it, you probably shouldn't be playing videogames.
>>551245669not my fault I'm the only one posting lobbymaybe we furries are just proactive, see >>5512061062 out of 3 lobbies posted in the thread were me
>>551246718>moving the goalpost
>>551243198speaking of, we are 3/4one guy seemingly hard crashed at mission end.We still have 2 missions left!
>>551246234>Playing videogames with 4channers.
>>551243198>>551246894FVLL AGAIN!
>>551246861How the fuck am I moving the goalpost? Literally the post that started this entire chain talking about the ideal way to play the game, where the spawns are the highest and the AI plays the way the devs actually intended it, involves sticking the host and focusing the main objective, then extracting. That's it. Every other bell and whistle on the map that makes soloniggers run off breaks the game on a fundamental level and makes the game literally worse.
>>551247239I sleep with one in my ass
>>551245897I am in fact the main character when I bring the loadout.
>>551245134>No sex updateNope its still broken you lying bastard.
>>551186953>>551178401>>551177275>>551177076>>551176406Oops, didn't read these, is new day already. Thank you, anons, for more advices.Yesterday, saw someone in my lobby that just...ran off and defended an entire raise the flag by himself. I don't know how that's even possible, maybe I should try doing these greater difficulties alone to get better? Feels like I'm dragging my teammates down with my own ineptitude.For now though, which one should I get—the gatling gun sentry or machine gun sentry—to help me against swarms a bit better?
>>551249672thats called a solofaggot and they ruin the game in full lobbies
>>551249917I see...It was a three-man squad at the time. Me and the other random player were trying to destroy the monolith at the time, dropships and random spawns were kicking both of us in the jaws.Guess...the third dude just seized the opportunity? Can enemy dropship spawns be at two different locations at once?
>>551245764>>sentry destroys my jetpack drop while trying to kill automatonsso.. just pick it up? I don't understand what you're taking issue with here
>>551249672People running off on their own have it a tiny bit easier to do objectives as patrols have less chances to spawn on them instead of picking to spawn near the host. It's not that they don't, it's that they do it less.Machinegun sentry has a shorter cooldown and lasts a bit longer against weaker threats due to having a slower firerate.Gatling is the OG sentry and deals with medium infantry a tad better than machinegun, but tends to run dry quicker and has a longer cooldown.Both will absolutely lop you, and your teammate's heads off if you stay within their line of fire. Consider their placements before deploying.Don't forget to get the Strafing Run stratagem. It's an eagle so it has multiple uses before needing to recharge and it's a very low cooldown "line clear" infront of you that kills most chaff and also deals significant damage to enemies that normally require anti-tank weaponry. Most eagle stratagem's lines of fire depend entirely on both the position you threw the stratagem and where the ball landed. Airstrikes tend to run horizontal side to side from point of impact, Strafing is vertical foward always. Be careful of terrain that will bounce your stratagem ball somewhere unpredictably.
>>551249672There's plenty of ways you can just solo those objectivesAn emplacement, some sentries, a late barrage, good use of all of your weapons, some tactical retreat and stim usageSquids are even easier since they can't do anything to the HMG or GL emplacements
We can warp to it again
>>551251298Yes, since like, half a year?
>>551251484I dunno, never bothered to check.
>>551249672The choice between Gatling Sentry and MG Sentry is whether you want something effective, or something on low cooldown. The MG Sentry is something you can afford to toss down any time you think you might want it, because it has the lowest cooldown of all sentries in the game. It isn't as strong as the Gatling Sentry, but if you move from place to place very quickly and don't stop to defend that often, it can be more handy since you'll almost always have the MG Sentry available at the new place you go to.The Gatling Sentry is very good at what it does, and if you toss it down it almost certainly means that every non-heavy enemy in the general area is going to die. Of course, the tradeoff is that due to the longer cooldown, you'll be going longer periods without it active, and in the event that it gets destroyed (which can happen quite often if you put it down at the wrong time and in the wrong place against the wrong enemies), you'll be left with it on cooldown and nothing to cover your ass for a decently long period of time.>>551250528Enemy reinforcement spawns work on a timer. If it's off cooldown, that hovering eye enemy can send up a flare and call in reinforcements right on top of itself, and then there's a set time period during which no more reinforcements can be called. Solo players often take advantage of this, when their teammates trigger a reinforcement wave then they get to take objectives and kill enemies without worrying about a reinforcement wave being called on them.There is one exception to this rule, and it's on the Automaton front.
what am I in for lads
>>551252041realizing how average it is
>>551252041immense dogshit
>>551251925Objectives like flags, drills and exterminate can override the timer too
>>551252041It's okay. It's not the normal GL in terms of power and the rounds reload is quite slow, but it's not bad for a support weapon. Don't expect it to win you engagements.
>>551252175perfect
>>551246718Full clear gets maximum resources for the team every time. Liberation mechanics are completely fucked to the point doing d1 is the meta. Unless killing is part of the MO, it does nothing.
What if spear were good?
squid bricks are so fucking boring dude
>>551252041Arc Thrower in GL form. Plays the exact same way
>>551252562whats wrong with it?
>>551252568Bricks itself is fucking boring I wish they'd bring back the old defense mission
>>551252625Not as good as RR or EAT.
>>551252562But it is
>>551252625Like 90% of all heavies in the game can be killed in one shot using the Recoilless, and thus there's no point in using the Spear except against a niche set of heavies.
>>551252712>>551252768on god?
>>551252568you dont have to play it
>>551252712Wrong.
>>551252712>>551252768Maybe it's the RR that's over performing?
>>551252913But what of EAT which is in fact the most balanced AT stratagem?
>>551253228>Whataboutism
>>551253279The earlier post also suggested the EAT was better than the spear.
>>551213870Sorry that would be too much funFuck that would be cool though, seeing the lightning arc off chaff after you shoot them a few times
>>551252913RR is fine and requires aiming at specific weakpoints that aren't always available unless the enemy is facing you directly with a projectile that has massive drag and a deceptive arc, same goes for EATSpear you can just slam it anywhere and it kills, plus you can angle the homing rocket to hit weakpoints too. Biggest issue with Spear is>4 rockets totalWhich isn't an issue if you scrounge up POIs.
Theoretically since divers have to pay for their own supplies and repairs do they need to cover the costs of every single EAT they leave just lying around on the field?
>>551252913>Shoot enemy heavy in its weakspot>It's weak to this and dies quickerWOOOOOW DUDEFuck you and your nerf mindset
>>551253529>Spear you can just slam it anywhere and it killsidk about that...
>Get that random pub of competent players.>No team killing with danger close strats.>No stupid sentry placement.>People with AT use it on any heavies, not just the ones after them.>Spore/Shrieker nests pop 10 seconds after someone spots it.Depressing when these groups end and the next is back to typical orbital napalm retards that throw it fucking anywhere. I swear to god that strategem has a max IQ allowance. Stop using that piece of SHIT! It doesn't close holes, you delay people from completing objectives or get them killed because you trap them. You blow up everyone's turrets/mines with your stupid fucking fire bukakke. FUCK OFF!
>>551253538it'd be funny if they made every player cover the cost of each stratagem they call down
>>551253745>You blow up everyone's turrets/mines with your stupid fucking fire bukakke.Have you considered not throwing turrets and mines on a bug breech I called napalm on?
>>551253632You need to take a breath and stop embarrassing yourself with these outbursts
>>551253745Sorry anon, I see one scavenger and I'm calling it down, next time don't run towards the red light.
didn't walking barrage used to be able to take out jammers from the edge? did they change something?
>>551245764if the FRV is on any angle the artificial gravity shit sucks it downhill so hard its makes going diagonally a pain even before the trillions of obstacles
>>551253916And you need to stop being a no-fun-allowed faggot, but guess we can't all get what we want, can we?
>>551254089No, it was always unreliable
>>551253684If you're shooting bile titans and hit legs with it, obviously it's not going to killIf you're shooting factory striders. Okay, that's kind of difficult to take down, but it's not the end of the world and it severely weakens its main body health to the point any other AT hitting it anywhere or even an ultimatum will probably kill it.It should oneshot the war strider on the face too, no need to hit the crotch.
>>551253632nigger hulks are made of paper
>>551253879>Implying it isn't ALWAYS the jizzypalm haphazardly thrown down after people already gasps their shit on field.Shut up faggot your orbital jizzbomb is less effective than a gas strike and someone with any gun, especially an mg. Except that combo doesn't usually kill teammates.
>>551236997you spend more time reloading this turd than shooting it
>>551254775So it's just like halo 2?
>>551253529>RR is fine and requires aiming at specific weakpoints that aren't always availablelollmaoRR can one-shot hulks and tanks literally anywhere, and behemoths anywhere that isn't one of its legs. only BT's and factory striders need specific weakspot hits to one shot with the RR
>>551254937what a conicidence, spear does this too!
Shitters always have rabid spergouts whenever you say the RR should be nerfed instead of making everything else as OP and easy as possible
>>551254758They could also use eagle napalm which is precise and can be used on multiple breaches instead of blanketing an entire area including where the team is. I am tired of that crap on raise the flag.
>>551255151and that's fine because you have no choice on where to aim with the SPEAR because of its lock-on nature. It also carries less ammo than the RR.
>>551254937>RR can one-shot hulks and tanks literally anywhereIs that meant to be something of note?
>>551255217This sounds like a skill issue, I use it all the time and it's really easy to just not put it where it will hit the main area your team is in. So either they are throwing it on top of you or you are walking towards the glowing red ball.
>>551255165>"NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST 1 SHOT WAR STRIDERS"Seethe, not dealing with your tranny enemy design.
>>551255296
>the AT weapon is... AT?
>mfw anti-tank weapon can kill tanks
>>551254937>point blanking the projectile AT that is affected by gravity and drag kills the armoured threats anywhere instead of having to aim for weak points at rangeYes, why are you stating the obvious again?
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>>551255451Yes it is a skill issue for the 90% of players using it that can't seem to understand the radius it has. I don't die from it because I always expect the stupidity as soon as I see the strat. But pretty much every time some faggot brings it to raise the flag I'm running away from the flag while I see two skull symbols pop near the flag.
>>551255573>>551255567lol >>551255486
>>551255815lol
>>5512557342/4
>>551255784See the issue is I run servo assisted, solves like 80% of danger close stratagem issues.
What would be the point of the RR if it wasn't just a point and click EZ anti-tank why would you bring them over EATs
>>551255968burst damage and you don't have to play musical support weapons or wait for a drop
>>551255968Really what is the point already when EATs are also a point and click EZ anti-tank.
>>551255968We should just have an underbarrel RR attachment for every weapon. And an expendable ultimatum in the throwable slot
>>551255734Come DIVE. Play video game >:(
>>5512557343/4
>>551253529>with a projectile that has massive drag, same goes for EATbut EATs have a drag factor of 0%....
>>551256436Not until I get a Hellbomb launcher. I hate dealing with stuff in this game
>>551255734fvll
>>551256078>>551256091>>551256389I'm just curious as to what the actual balance suggestion is for all these AT weapons. RR is pretty stupid and boring right now being just a point and click one shot but I also don't really wanna go back to the days of needing to shoot a hulk in the eye with it to kill them since back then no one used the thing for good reason
>>551249564>>No sex updatehttps://files.catbox.moe/ojra0k.png
>>551256701>general butt naked
>>551256729>I'm just curious as to what the actual balance suggestion is for all these AT weapons.The suggestion is that AT weapons should be AT, if they aren't then there is literally zero reason to take them. The problem isn't in the weapons it's the fact that heavy armor is one of the few ways the devs actually try to make things difficult so if you counter(and you have zero reason not to counter it) it then things are easy.
>>551256729>but I also don't really wanna go back to the days of needing to shoot a hulk in the eye with it If only there was a middle ground like...RR can one shots hulks with any eye, body, or heatsink shot, but not arm or leg shotsRR can ones-hot tanks with a rear hull engine shot, or turret heatsink or side shot but not a track shot, hull front or side shot, or turret front shotRR can one-shot behemoths with a head, ass, or ass plate shot, but not a body or belly shot
>>551256729All AT should be stronger and capable of killing everything in 1 shot even when aiming for the body or armored parts
Daily reminder to the retarded trannies ITT:This game have 3 fronts, bug, bot and squid. Not just bot. Basing your balance idea on only 1 front is fucking retarded
>>551257452Bot is the the front that needs the most nerfs so weapons should be balanced around it. Bugs are in a comfortable spot where only a few enemies need to be nerfed and squids are in a perfect spot
AT should be able to one shot heavies. The reason being the game vomits them at you so much they might as well be regular units. What needs to be done is BTs/Behemoths/Factory Striders get buffed to ridiculous levels but there are a limited number on the map. The game shouldn't shit out two BTs every breach and drop factories literally on top of you.
>>551252562>What if spear were good?It would be good.
>Nerftrannies are realWait I thought it was a meme, but retards are actually mad that AT weapons are effective at taking down... tanks?Why don't they just, I dunno, not bring AT then?
>>551257452Bot front is the only one where AT actually matters.
>>551257846The one issue is that we've seen what Arrowhead thinks a super heavy enemy should be like, and it's the worm. So understandably people are very pensive about giving them more ideas along that axis. Now of course Arrowhead could just not be retarded and do it right but lol lmao.
>>551257846Nerflets fear this logicRR is like what, 6 shots, and resupply is like 2.30 minutes right? Shit I have had 4+ factory striders in under a minute before. I am glad AT actually does its fucking job at killing tanksReally what AH needs to do is give us more viable AT items across more slots. The reason ultimatum is so popular is because its a secondary AT weapon.
>b-b-bot front i-iii-ii-iii-id-ididi-di-di-dd de only f-front d-d-d-dd-da--ddd-dat m-mm-m-mmm-m--mmmatters!!
>>551257964Because nerftrannies are the ones using it
>>551258498Looking good champ. *thumbs up*
>>551257846Yeah this is the main issue, people wouldn't be against AT being nerfed a bit if it wasn't the fact that after d6 you'll be encountering heavy units on the regular. Like why wouldn't people take AT stuff when your odds of encountering 3 war striders back to back is rather high? Really the issue is that nerftrannies asked for higher difficulty then get mad when people find ways to actually survive on those higher difficulties. I have no doubt if d11 got made people would find a way to get through it with little issue and develop a meta around it then they'll seethe that the game is too easy again and that we need a d12.
PLEASAH TO WATCH YOU FAP, HELLIDVAH!
can some one quote me the post that said AT shouldn't one shot heavies, at all, even with weakspots hits? I'm trying to find it to laugh at the retard saying it but I just can't find it
>>551258774hey thanks man
>>551258498AT is literally not needed on the squid front, and actually situational on the bug front. So yes when discussing it the bot front is the only one that matters.
>>551258995>no AT on squidshow do you deal with Harvesters?
>>551259216With my Dick(le) in the eye
>>551252375>Liberation mechanics are completely fucked to the point doing d1 is the meta.D10 gives such a significantly higher amount of liberation when you clear it that it makes spamming out D1s pointless. And no, it doesn't take long to do a D10 if you focus objectives. Especially blitzes.
>>551259216They're AP3 enemies. Literally Scout Strider/Alpha Commander equivalent
>>551259216Their joints and shield generator only need AP3 to take down.
I think I cracked the code, you see, the problem is not about AT weapons are overpowered, it's because the nerf troons are salty because ATchads been stealing their kills from them all the time, THAT is the reason why they are chimping out so much, they don't give a shit about balance>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST POINT AND CLICK THAT WAR STRIDER WITH THE RR, YOU HAVE TO LIE DOWN AND SPAMMING IT'S LEG JOINT FOR 30 SECONDS WITH AP4 WEAPON LIKE MEEEEEEE, NO STOP ITTT STOP STEALING MY KILLS, YOU ARE RUINING MY EPIC CHUGGUS FUNNY WEBM MOMENTS!!!! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO IMPRESS REDDIT WITH THIS????
>Bot mission, using EAT>Gunship harrying me>Shoot first EAT>Miss>How embarrassing>Shoot second>Miss again>Fuck>Shoot at it with dickle >Actually downs the thing pretty quickThats cool, might just do that going forward
>>551255734crash into lobby full gg
Someone please explain what the fuck recon planets are for. Just it just essentially remove them from the front so people can fuck off their doing nothing without it "negatively" effecting the war because the scaling is retarded? Or will it suddenly get captured?
>>551259918the former
