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Happy new year!

>Version 1.13.0 is now live!
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2679460/view/544472700657074186?l=english
>Metaphor: ReFantazio won Game of the Year 2025 from the Japan Game Awards
>The manga adaptation of Metaphor: ReFantazio will be published monthly in Shueisha's V Jump magazine, with an anime reportedly in the works.

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.co/MetaphorRefantaziovg
https://rentry.co/scenicvista

>Metaphor Manga (Chapter releases on the 19th of every month)
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1023739

>How to Make an RPG With Katsura Hashino - Metaphor: ReFantazio (ENG)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EivtGe8xwfWrk7TXZbRqTgXmWk_iSnTW

>Metaphor Digital Artbook
https://mega.nz/file/VisTTLhB#G4epdYn-DfoS9QnkDccPaverj_LjwY35_VpCAsj8kTc

>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg

>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)
https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases

>A Metaphor in Fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eFkMJzc6ow [Embed]

>Metaphor Orchestra Concert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwXSEndmlj4 [Embed]

>Metaphor Live Reading Event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLzctQQ9h8 [Embed]

Common Questions
>"How should I build my MC?"
Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.
>"What is the best team comp?"
Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.
>"How should I manage my time?"
There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.
>"Which royal virtues should I focus on?"
Prioritize eloquence and tolerance and avoid courage boosts.
>Royal Slash scales based on the higher of your STR or MAG.

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The one day I felt like maybe throwing that fidelio schizo a bone someone beats me to making a new thread kek
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>>552440752
i appreciate the thought, bro
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heterosexuality
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>>552440752
sorry I just wanted to avoid a schizo thread and went ahead
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>>552442464
It's all good he was just lurking around waiting for 750 to hit anyway
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cute thread image for the new year
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>>552466682
>reuploading is prohibited

You monster
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No one ever wants to keep exploring...
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the real question is atlus dumb enough to start the 30th persona anniversary with a nothing announcement that will piss everyone off like the 25th anniversary did
seeing how little was done to support metaphor I would say 'yes'
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>>552477653
They genuinely and unironically have no excuse now to at least not, at the bare minimum, TEASE, p6. If it was another chair PV it would at least be enough (because I highly doubt the game is full to be ready to release this year, that'd be too much of a big strech).
The only other clutches they have is oldsona ports and P4R, but they're not a total anni's worth.
Then again, SMT got genuine jackshit for it's 30th anni other than a concert and a TCG that turned out to be a legitimate scam
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>>552440752
nice I'll use this for the rentry page
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bumpo
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>>552478501
maybe in september at the actual anniversary till then you will get P5 fitness boxing and P5 lay chips and be happy
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/meta/ is just unkillable isn't it
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>>552506234
If fitness boxing actually is the 1/8 news they're gonna get ripped to shreds lol
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>>552517034
we're already dead lowkeyly
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I am guessing first announcement will be a bigger reveal of P4 remake. Then over the months they'll do merchandise and maybe a port of P1P/P2P similar to P3P got, then the last announcement near the anniversary date will be P6.
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>>552517120
it might as well be, best case they announce a super live but real game news I'd say are still reserved for streams of publishers
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>>552521332
if I dont see those 2 as children in the manga, I'll be mad
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>>552525632
diddy ahh blud
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I'm playing through the demo right now, but I had a question before picking it up. So far what seems like it has the most promise is the political intrigue and the idea of fantasy vs reality. I'm guessing these are the main themes of the story, but do they stay that way and have satisfying payoffs?
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>>552538589
>but do they stay that way
yes
>and have satisfying payoffs
no
the political message in metaphor is honestly very boring and status quo, americans love it for some reason and cope about how it's so deep that will is a brownoid but it doesn't challenge anything other than go "racism is bad....let's get along :("
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>>552538967
americans love it because the shallowness is a reflection of their political reality
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>>552538967
seething
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the only people that didn't like metaphor's political messaging are unironically third worlders, this is why literally every single person that shits on it coincidentally also can't speak english
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>>552547764
it just doesn't say anything that unique, anon. and i'm american. metaphor's strengths aren't in its political messaging.
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>>552548237
What would you say its strengths are? Is the story good even if the politics are bland?
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>>552548554
the whole thing is just garbage play e33 instead
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>klingerkek shitposting from bed
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>>552548554
>is the story good even if the politics are bland?
yes. it's not the best story in the world but it's enjoyable, and the characters are compelling, some more than others. if you're enjoying the demo, i suggest just giving it a go.
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metaphor's message on the folly of high minded ideas is the only political message I think I can spend time consuming anymore, the whole thing was too well written
I would feel bad for zoomers that are 100% high minded bullshit and 0 realism if they weren't all assholes
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>>552547764
>unironically third worlders
not true, I'm italian

>>552548554
gameplay, story, music? the politics are just tossed on the side and the meta aspect of "fiction is as important as reality" is just personally redundant to me. same with "escapism isn't healthy!!" I've heard it countless times before.
But what pertains it's politics (like characters like Roger being an obvious anarchist) they just get told lol ur dumb and forgotten about
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Louis is hot hence he gets my vote, that is very realistic in my view. Burn the world as you see fit...
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>>552550669
Women shouldn't have ever been allowed to vote with shallow whores like you
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hook, line and sinker
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>>552549534
>libertarians are anarchists
Also congrats on digesting none of the content because something is living in your head rent free. Roger Julian etc. are all there to show what people want to see in a leader and why they will vote for people they know aren't being realistic. You can pretend that there's a case to treat shit like abolishing taxes or making everyone vegetarians realistically but the game doesn't waste any time pretending there is or that people will ever vote based on those views.
This is why the most popular candidates are running on some of the most banal shit you can think of and why Catherina has a whole story focused on how her popularity was driven by being a radical option for the minorities that want free handouts that will get them to that result in the shortest amount of time. This is also why you are told by voters in different cities that they don't think you're being all that realistic either but if they had to choose between you or someone like Julian that literally wrote a book about a 10+ year plan for a fantasy green new deal picking you increases their chances of having problems they actually give a shit about getting addressed in their lifetimes.
It's a story about what politics actually mean and what impact they actually have, and how people see them instead of being 50+ hours of how person A will completely change the world in 4 years or how person B doesn't agree with them for great justice and will also completely change the world in 4 years which is a lot of what makes it so compelling to a lot of people and what makes it different from pretty much every "fantasy with politics" game out there.
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>>552551869
well put desu
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>>552554623
you never believed what you were saying anyway and I knew it going in just fyi
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hulkfag never misses
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>>552555301
oh im not that retard, I just liked what you wrote
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>>552551869
>are all there to show what people want to see in a leader
This point is retarded and moot because people like Lina also exist and she's literally only there to be a massive advertisement.
> but the game doesn't waste any time pretending there is or that people will ever vote based on those views.
>told by voters in different cities that they don't think you're being all that realistic
So you agree that the story isn't saying anything revolutionary or intriguing, right? This is just middle schooler tier "politics"
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>>552558365
Also, I forgot to mention, Roger literally turns into a Louisfag by the end of the game so he doesn't actually believe any of the shit he was saying.
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>>552558365
>people like Lina also exist and she's literally only there to be a massive advertisement
Lina was the "free transit" candidate actually. And the reason why Roger wants to vote for Louis at the end is because accelerationism is aligned with a lot of the ideas he already had.
Childish views on politics are what you're trying to advocate for unironically because a child has no respect for any of the people they're actually trying to impress their extravagant worldview on or why any of them would disagree with how they think in the first place. People (especially teens and young adults) only want big quick solutions as long as they don't have to deal with any of the consequences.
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>>552562279
>because a child has no respect for any of the people they're actually trying to impress their extravagant worldview on or why any of them would disagree with how they think in the first place.
Funny, because that's what Louis does.
Either way, you keep going off on your own personal politics when we're talking about the game and it's cast.
The main party's motto for the game is "we'll help anyone in need" and they only do this as a clutch because their real objective is simply being in the gaunlet for the sake of the Prince.
Even when they do things that involve helping people through quests and other things in the story, it's minimal stuff like errands like delivering medicine or giving a woman more food (and you can't say these don't count or don't matter because they raise your vote count, effectively making you know that these gestures are making people vote for you)
The game makes a point that "change can't happen overnight" and that people can't promise "we'll kill all the rich tomorrow and abolish all taxes" without the implications that entails and how that's not a viable solution to all problems, but this is not deep. Even though there's evil sanctists like Forden making Sanctism be seen like a religion of subjugation and fear, the game still tells you that Not All Sanctists are like that and you can't take people's faith away just because you don't like them. Hence why there's still an active Sanctist church with a redeemed Gideaux at the end.
But that's not anything deep, "realism" isn't deep. Just because you're used to JRPG plotlines where saving the day and saving people can be solved through magic and brainwashing like in P5 doesn't mean that Metaphor is saying anything revolutionary.
And if you genuinely need a japanese videogame to tell you basic shit like
>You cannot pretend at diversity without acknowledging individual differences
That says more about you than it does about the actual game's depth.
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>>552564779
>just says "it's not deep!!!!" 15 times
How riveting
And Will absolutely gives a shit about the things his subjects really need lol he's literally willing to give up the crown if it keeps him from having the proper oversight and the game makes important points about delegation and taking steps to prevent new leadership from deteriorating. These are things invaluable to more than just political leaders btw, which should've hopefully been made obvious by how every single follower is a example of a different kind of leader be it in the community, in business etc. People that have successful careers live by a lot of these ideas while people that don't tend not to. You can say none of these ideas are important or meaningful as much as you want, it won't make it true but I will enjoy watching you act contrary to all these ideas and wonder why everything still sucks before blaming it on whatever the fuck that has next to nothing to do with your life or circumstances years from now
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remember guise racism is the only theme of the game it's definitely not that I can't consoom anything else because I grew up in a poisoned social media driven culture that only ever concerned itself with who is and isn't being racist
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Archdemon Will already has over 100 more downloads than Zorbica in 2 days of being online. I was still planning to release more but this was way better than I expected. Thanks to anyone from here that tried it out.
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/meta/ won't survive
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>>552580469
Meta will survive at least until I finish my second playthrough, which I started several months ago and am only now to Port Brilehaven because I play RPGs at a glacial pace. I will keep the thread bumped and will recreate it if it dies (always with Eupha pics). So we're good, probably until April or so at least.
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>>552581678
Baste
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>>552575760
Fairy butt....
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>>552571301
thanks daddy
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you can let this gen die now
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>everyone says how great the game is
>buy it on sale
>30 hours in
>setting is Berserk made by Disney
>every character has exactly ONE trait
>gameplay is repetitive, especially dungeon design (every boss is dancing around buffs and debuffs)
>protagonist is insultingly stupid (Matira and Sneaking aboard Louis' Runner)
>no one called me a slur yet
Am I missing something or is this game mid as fuck?
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Trying too hard
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>>552608228
its mid
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Not trying hard enough
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sneeding too hard
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Finished all the mainline Persona and some SMT games
bout to start this one anything I should know? For one I’m not looking forward to having to suffer through a calendar system again
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>>552613385
Turn the voice volume all the way down.
>start to run (literally no delay if you stutter)
>character grunts
>select an action
>character comments
>deselect an action
>character comments
>hover over too many actions
>character comments
>any time anything fucking happens
>the fairy fucking comments
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>>552439815
Diddyblud ahh
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>>552633479
pushing 40 btw
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if we go the pace of persona people here will be 70 when Metaphor 6 comes around
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Send klingerkek to the gallows
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>>552637975
He doesn’t even shitpost here anymore, he just drops by from time to time to post a Louis tiktok edit
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>>552638346
this is what now, the third time you've said this? get new material
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>randomly scrolling the metaphor discord and see someone using mod anon's mods
this is it /meta/ he's gonna get popular and then leave us...
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>>552643461
Will /meta/ develop a mod anon fearing schizo like /pg/ has?
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https://x.com/Atlus_West/status/2007519831738781846
anything but work on the sequel
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>>552647681
Atlus West is nothing but a glorified localizer, nobody would want their hands on game dev. It's still cute they do this though and people have fun with it.
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>>552649563
he knows he's just a shitposter
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anything interesting happen in the last few months here? or same old same old?
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>>552482428
>galligas
>you cannot grasp the true form of galligas' music
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>>552661868
come home bro
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>>552558509
people turned into louisfags endgame because they were scared of what was coming and louis "promised protection."
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>>552568067
>every single follower is a example of a different kind of leader
only really brigitta, barden, more, and maybe catherina are leaders. none of the party member followers are leaders. maria isn't either. alonzo isn't either. but interesting thoughts in general throughout the argument chain.
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>>552663882
>none of the party member followers are leaders
m8 did you just skip over the whole six partizans thing? literally all of them are in leadership roles
>maria
maria is a local community leader that helped improve the slums, she's just very young so they mostly treat it as a cute thing
>alonzo
alonzo is a key diplomat for the king which is an example of a behind the scenes leadership role
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>>552667898
>eupha in charge of executions
The number of public executions was cut down by over 90%, but 80% of the ones that occurred happened to be women that associated with the King...
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>>552667898
nevermind. i realized you were talking fully about endgame stuff.
i was thinking you meant the points when they become your followers.
but i'm still not really sure i'd classify maria as a leader at that point.
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>>552668943
Will still deputizes her as his representative for the slums and yes she absolutely did count. Maria is basically the model example of a local leader helping improve quality of life with very limited means which is just as important as all these other roles. This is probably why the writers gave it to a little girl
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bump
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>>552668832
well some executions are justified, why should they abolish them
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zorba
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Why am I not having sex with eupha right now
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>>552716803
One of life's greatest mysteries.
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bump
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>>552731434
Sex
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eiffel-towering fidelio with his brother!
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Ubersex menschenberg
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>kidnaps and kills like 15 kids
>everybody acts like that's a-okay because she was grieving
I might just drop the game here because of this.
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>>552774679
I would've dropped the game much earlier than that if I couldn't read
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>>552774679
thats okay because shes a busty milf
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>>552774679
just play on buddy
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>>552774679
This is the most retarded part of the game for sure, that they forgave her and acted like I'm supposed to have sympathy for a woman who kidnaps and murders children.
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>>552779863
*translating*
>"I didn’t get invited to the island"
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>>552779863
stay on /pg/ klingerschizo
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>>552781404
If she was just having sex with the children I wouldn't care

She was murdering them and I'm supposed to act like boohoo for her? How about the parents of those kids?

The Japanese writer for this section of the game must be absolutely fucking autistic.
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>>552782162
>retarded
>also a pedophile
checks out
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sex with maria (age: 8)
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>>552782558
she's 12
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is "they forgave joanna" the "they forgave groo" of metaphor?
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>>552784870
Goro wishes he was as sexy
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>>552785252
he's sexier
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Imagine if Louis had actually cried about his past, the party would have dropped everything. They were already too understanding even when he was still tweaking out.
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>>552787876
he should've twerked out instead
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>>552785291
no
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I flopped
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>>552787876
he already did cry about his past though
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>>552799879
he means literally be on his knees and cry
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>>552792378
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>>552801208
right, he wouldn't do this. the best you're getting is the glisten in his eye as the destroyer charadrius.
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why do you want louis to cry? just let the man rest.
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keep a place for me
I'll sleep between yall its nothing...
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>>552830332
ts lowkey tuff
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"N*TS To B*TT In Intake...Old White Men LOVE S*xualizing Black Men!" EatGreedyG EXPOSE Prison System
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>>552803260
still a beautiful detail but goddamn where is the artbook so I can see that comment myself
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>>552851884
Enough of that
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>slower than fucking katawa shoujo and doki doki gen
fuckkkk... we're next on the chopping block ain't we?
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guys everyone keeps insulting the GOAT hashino for saying atlus should make games for a wider audience what do I do.... I can't samefag defend him enough on reddit and twitter....
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>>552868179
Fuck off
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Hashino is just not versed in marketing speech, he is untainted by the western brainrot
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I made my choice.
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>>552873379
thats your mom
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>>552871137
>untainted by the western brainrot
>added a tranny to catherine
no
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>>552876191
trannies are nothing new for japan, only the west has the hateable kind
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>go to do optional bounty
>get to area and it's stormy thus no extra turn timers and 10000x harder to get through
>leave and camp for the night
>still stormy
>going to end up wasting like 4-5 days on this mini dungeon because of this
I'm about to drop this fucking game because of this horseshit.
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>>552885097
your edeni bro
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>>552885578
I don't know what the fuck that means
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>>552885656
eupha’s brother
you give him fish, he clears your bad weather
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>>552886081
Well I don't have access to him yet. I'm currently trying to infiltrate Louis' ship for the spell formula but I had 20 days I figured I should knock some stuff out first and now I've already wasted a bunch of days on this shit and I didn't save before coming out here and my save is bricked now.
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be doing anything but work on the game
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>>552886798
Mod anon will make new content first anyways
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>>552885097
That's what you get for poor planning
This is why they shouldn't listen to southeast Asians and take the calendar system out
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Slop game
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>>552902552
Oops meant this for the uma general
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>>552911492
>metaphor gets barely any art that people now have to post sloppa
sad
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>>552912039
actually this is over a year old
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Found some tiny remnants of an old layout for Sunlumeo Street not used by the game. One of the various unused fields crashes the game when you try to load it because it tries to import the contents of these files which don't exist in the final build.
Might've been part of an old instance where the main road and the bazaar + cathedral entrance were all on the same map. In the final game there's just a mainStreet_01 and a mainStreet_02 instead of all this.
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>>552931436
fuck off
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>>552931436
It's likely the build where Grand Trad was originally Amaurot
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'del love
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>>552955046
Love? It's hate!
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nigger
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>>552968441
The big flops
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>>552975041
stop projecting
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>>552980950
What else is a persona fan to do?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7QOH2WEoDE
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>>552968441
ts lowirkenuinely tuff
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Let this shithole die already
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>>552995747
nope
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>>552995747
never
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>soul scream
>boss buffs itself
>boss debuffs you
>attacks

>debuff boss
>buff self
>attack
>heal

repeat for 60 hours
Thanks Atlus
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>>553001829
baby's first beast eye experience (and it's not even hard)
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>>553002471
It's not hard, it's mind numbing that every boss follows the same fucking pattern. Who the fuck thought this game was good?!
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>>553002592
If you are getting soul screamed by every boss you are literally getting punished for not doing your in-game research or just reading
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>>553003573
Even without soul scream it's the same pattern every fight, even worse is how fast and often the assets get reused. Atlus shoveled this turd out the door as fast as possible
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>>553004284
Coping and seething
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>>553004692
>dead thread
>nobody making content online even porn
>99% player drop off after a month
All those glowing reviews had to be paid off and bots
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>>553005682
Mad cuz bad
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>personafags upset because they're getting dragged through the mud for another anniversary year where nothing was learned from the last one
>smtfags upset because they went right back to flopping and still didn't get a version of SMTV's setting with all the gaping holes filled
>EOchuds seething because the franchise is still dead
>SEAs still mad they couldn't make metaphor flop over a year later
>metachads have a rerelease to look forward to in the next year or so and everyone's figures are shipping out by March
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>SEAs
tf did we do??
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>>553008516
You keep posting extremely shitty bait in here for one
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>>553008946
no thats my cambodian neighbor
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>>553007961
>metachads have a rerelease to look forward to in the next year or so
snrk, even you don't believe this
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most single player games lose most their discussion on 4chan after a month or 2. there's still reddit or xitter if you want. they're just not great for general discussion for obvious reasons. but people do still post about metaphor on them.
i'm more surprised by youtube lacking metaphor content. barely any video essays.
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>>553010170
Why would you be? There are like 4 p5 video essays anyone gives a shit about and that's their biggest game ever and Nam pissed off all the personafags with his metaphor one by itself
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>>553010170
>open reddit
>only discussion is exactly the same as posts like these >>553001829 >>552885097 and shitty fanart
>open twitter
>all discussion is shitflinging whether will is brown enough or not
also recommending people to go to reddit or twitter and then having a melty when people here dare to say the game is dead is funny
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did youtube in general just die for discussion or something? it feels like most discussions are on reddit/xitter/4chan/discord nowadays.
there use to be a lot more video essays on youtube generating discussion.

>>553010604
but there are/were several dedicated persona/smt youtubers. i don't think there's a single dedicated metaphor youtuber.

>>553010960
when did i meltdown? i'm saying those places have metaphor posts if anyone is wanting more of that rn. they're less dead is what i'm saying. i pointed out that they do have their problems too though.
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>>553010960
>hyperbole
this is why no one likes you
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he's losing his shit in here because there were a handful of metaphor posts in /pg/ this morning btw
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>>553011159
you realize how many years it took for any of that content to show up right?
You're basically saying no one makes longform youtube content anymore because you're not finding it at the rate that you did when you came in and started consooming years after all of it was made
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>>553011159
i mean i get that metaphor not having dedicated youtubers like persona/smt is to be expected since it's just 1 game as opposed to a series with several games, but i just don't see as much video essays in general anymore. even outside of video games. i see more new thoughts about things including metaphor crop up on the other sites i mentioned. people just don't journal their thoughts on youtube as much anymore it seems.
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>>553011893
yeah probably a mix of that too. longform content also just takes longer to make obviously.
it's a lot quicker and easier to just write a blog post than make a video.
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>>553011159
>did youtube in general just die for discussion or something?
since when do people use youtube for discussion? you consume some guy's video and sometimes the video is big enough that you discuss it outside the platform itself, not on youtube itself unless you're the kind of retard that genuinely uses youtube comments as if it were reddit
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>>553011893
This is the problem steam brought to the persona community in spades desu - bunch of retarded children ate through over half a decade of stuff already laid out for them and they won't stick around for anything else because they crave live service. They'll be asking for the P6 rerelease and spinoffs 48 hours after the game comes out (assuming they don't spit it up for xyz reason).
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>>553012446
there's discussion in the comments too sometimes. but i manly meant people use to dump casual/random thoughts about specific hobbies more in the past.
now it just seems more like people just make youtube videos if they can profit from it or something and the casual thoughts are left mainly for text posts elsewhere.
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>>553012919
you go on tiktok if you want to put some random ass opinion out somewhere
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>>553012839
>They'll be asking for the P6 rerelease and spinoffs 48 hours after the game comes out
As opposed to people saying this for Metaphor, who are still waiting for the re-release enough that SEGA complained about it?
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>>553013087
>more hyperbole
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>>553013213
You DO know that there are actually plenty of people who say they completely refuse to buy Metaphor until re-release right? You're being disingenuous on purpose.
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I still think it's funny how quickly the "SEGA is stopping definitive editions!" shit went away. it's obvious to everyone now when a handful of poor people are screeching like >>553013848 and no one else gives a fuck
Probably never would've played persona in the first place if P5R didn't launch on steam with a big discount
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>>553013848
it's always always non english speakers lmao
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>>553014434
You're avoiding the topic. You're talking as if only Personafags complain about needing a rerelease immediately when that shit happened to Metaphor too. It's a SEGA problem as a whole but you're just a shitposter.
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>>553014026
I attribute it more to P4G being $20 on steam than P5R but yes it's just another form of class war.
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>>553014690
I can tell you're hopelessly autistic but showing me poor people that don't want to buy metaphor twice has nothing at all to do with zoomers needing to devour something at all times. Using SEGA trying to decipher why P5R has better long term sales than all their other games as evidence of anything is retarded also
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just to piss off the obvious /pg/ shitposter even more
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>>553015338
it's crazy to me that modanon's will mod is being downloaded at the same rate as a big conversion mod the entire persona modding community worked on pretty much
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>>553016007
Tranny communities like the P3 fanbase are very performative. Lots of people giving their kudos and applauding the effort because it makes them look good, and then no one downloads it.
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>>553015151
>has nothing at all to do with zoomers needing to devour something at all times
It kind of does. If people craved live service as much as you think they do, P5X would be Atlus's most successful product to this day but it's clearly not. People want a new game and most specifically a game that feels COMPLETE. People ask for rerelease almost by inertia due to the feeling of Atlus intentionally gimping their games so they can dump the new version along the years. That's why you have people (with Metaphor) desperately clinging to some sort of DLC or the supposed scrapped Mage Academy not entirely due to "needing a constant stream of content" but because of the perceived feeling of the game feeling incomplete.
Even during the time of P5 having an actual legitimate stream of content (spinoffs, anime, collabs) most people started to slowly not care anymore.
Unless P6 also feels incomplete (for whatever reason), then people would be complaining for a new version that includes whatever so-called new content they want.
People also aren't liking the prospect of Atlus just pumping out remakes either even if it means getting dripfed content.

>>553015338
I am more surprised at the fact that there seems to be some guy with a fetish for Brigitta's outfit and wants to put it on to every character quite
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>>553013848
Atlus still makes more than ever ignoring such people and again I could see them throw a bone with an expensive upgrade version that won't support old save files.
Again Atlus still gets more shit currently with Hashino's comments but it is amusing everyone taking him seriously. Once the next games come out, people will forget this again.
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>>553016389
how is liking femc related to tranny communities or performative?
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>>553016569
I bet P6 will have a full season pass spanning 1-2 years that will be communicated upfront. P3R was like their test run with that
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>>553016791
p5 and metaphor are already bringing in a "wider audience"
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>>553016569
>it's clearly not
You're aware of how much money P5X is actually making right? It long since passed the profits of anything in their catalogue besides metaphor or p5r, and that's with the number of fuckups they've had
P5X was literally the most dropped game on steam in 2025 by a wide margin, and most people drop P5X because the early game story is retarded, and they had actual atlus writers taking to social media to reassure fans that it gets better. That's the success they had WITH that level of fuckup. Of course they slurp up live service.
And this garbage about the mage academy is pure coping at this point. This is why it's exclusively persona fans that think there needs to be a dungeon there and no one else so much as makes a peep about that part of the game. Not because it would actually do anything for the game or the plot, which they can never explain what it would do for either, but because that's what the P4 and P5 format dictates should be there and it not being there interferes with their programming. The game already parted ways with that format after 2 dungeons, and it was already nothing like P5 in the first place because the introduction happens in 4-5 different areas instead of in one place the entire time, but these same retards will say that the side content in Metaphor is on par with Mementos in P5 because they are actually that stupid.
The only thing that people who want to wait for the rereleases actually come up with, with 0 deviation mind you because they're in a low income hivemind, is the argument original suddenly becoming worthless when in reality the re-releases are always different enough from vanilla that the rerelease can end up borderline losing something fundamental about the original game. Actually in the case of P3-5 this happened every single time, but they don't like hearing that because it invalidates their purchasing decisions.

They whine about rereleases because they don't have money. End of story.
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>>553018736
I guess I have no problem with Atlus "woke" version then, I liked them and also the old titles
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>>553016897
>how is liking femc related to tranny communities
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>>553019883
it's just people getting upset at the made up scenarios in their heads. that's most drama. a "wider audience" doesn't really mean anything.
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>>553021012
Atlus has literally 0 idea that E33 fans are looking for absolutely anything to radically interpret as a sign of weakness from a JP dev or that they're actively fighting all other fans of Japanese games and that their community is the most targeted by far. Nor do they care. Nor will they care. Especially not Hashino who hasn't even finished E33.
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>>553021012
especially since they still have a lot of logical things they can improve on to get a wider audience in their view. More languages, more events internationally and all news internationally. Plus the whole notion of demos and dlc fits that notion. Alone that metaphor had daily videos with little lore previews and they never were translated or posted to Atlus West...
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>>553024051
>massively bungle metaphor's marketing and throw everything into p3r with zero (0) plans for post launch support
>metaphor completely overshadows it, sells at 2x speed, gets all the awards, beats final fantasy
>give hashino money to fix the PC port in a panic because the sales greatly exceeded expectations
it's nothing new for them though
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>>553024051
>Alone that metaphor had daily videos with little lore previews and they never were translated or posted to Atlus West...
I still don't know why didn't they do this. It didn't need a whole re-recording to replace Koyasu with Greg Chun either, just simply translate them.
But then again, Metaphor's marketing was so weird. They even had some mini politician guy do a PR for it in JP and Atlus West had that "we'll select some guy that can become royalty for this one small island" campaign that never seemed to have been mentioned again.
It makes me sad how much they used More for marketing initially then completely dropped him post-release to the point he doesn't even get merch anymore...
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>>553025840
yeah still strange, they hyped him up as a new Igor figure and then just imply he moved on at the end but I won't give up hope yet that he stays around as a guiding figure
such a cute picture, too....
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Metaphor combat is like crack. I'm trying to play the first octopath traveler but the combo of random battles and semi open world is a mess and I just keep thinking about why I'm not playing metaphor instead
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Sex the berg
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Junah figure hasn't moved for like 3 days...
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It's time to merge with /eog/
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>>553039790
Weird, I thought Metaphor's system was generally not that good. You never got tired of "oops I guess even though you hit the enemy a billion times it wasn't enough to stagger them and now they ambush you"? At least in P5 the "jumping between hiding places" shit felt satisfying.

Anyway, maybe play SMTV.
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>>553062720
I don't because I don't suck at the game
And I've played 100 hours of VV, it's also nowhere near as good
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>>553064787
I wish they'd do a remake of Digital Devil Saga with a lower encounter rate. I dunno if I'd want full "visible before fight" style enemies, it could work in some areas but not so much others.
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>>553065528
eh I was annoyed enough that they messed with Raidou's art style they can just leave DDS on the ps2 where it is
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Animation workflow is getting easier.
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the nla stack in blender really, really unequivocally fucking sucks to use but I think I have an actually workable solution for getting animations into these 1800+ size metaphor animation packs now.
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Bergensex
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keep a place for me
ill sleep between yall... its nothing
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>>553068685
>>553069484
>>553073336
ts is tuff uncle
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Too tired
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>got emailed 6 times that Junah was out for delivery
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junah
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Metaphor mogging P30th merch and marketing rn and there's literally nothing going on
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>P3R gets a whole DLC road map and paid expansion announced within a month of release
>SMTVV gets one random free update months after release out of nowhere that adds an additional boss fight and some minor background lore to the game
>Metaphor gets literally nothing for over a year after release
>Metaphor sells the best of all 3 and currently has the highest quality merchandise of the 3
You really can't make this shit up
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folks are starting to get their book lamps today
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>>553105346
>currently has the highest quality merchandise of the 3
Not really, and I own the great majority of it. Even limited shit like fucking paper.
It's not like it's badly printed or anything, but it feels cheap given that it's still just recycled artwork over and over.
The book merch is unique because it comes in different ways (a pouch, a box, a lamp, a metallic pin) but everything else is just the standard.
My favorite merch are the pixel blocks though
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>>553107618
m8 metaphor has like 6 figures and a wide range of cool shit from the 2 Exhibitions and the concert.
That's way better than what the other two have and also way better than what Atlus showed this morning for the persona anni as a whole
When they did acrylics for metaphor it's stuff actually meant to be bolted to a wall and put on display, even for persona it's all just plastic in comparison
hell metaphor did the plastic acrylics better too like the multilayered one from the collector's edition
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>>553108772
Maybe you're new to buyfagging and have never seen merch in your life before but most of the things released are just really the bare standard for most franchises. The exhibition shit is just also still acrylics, tapestries, postcards, stickers, keychains, badges so it's nothing that I haven't seen before. The only good thing from the exhibition was the Louis canvas, but having had bought P25th canvas before I knew it was going to be small and not a proper painting canvas.
I don't know what "acrylic to be bolted to a wall" you mean other than the concert one because every other acrylic is small as fuck like the Isetan ones.
The only unique merch released are the perfumes and the super groupies collab merch (but this is also not that unique, plenty of other franchises get those collabs).
So maybe you are only just experiencing merch releases.
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Stay the fuck out of our thread. This game was a massive flop with terrible gameplay story and especially characters
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why do personafags act like anyone cares about them lol
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>>553114681
it's just 1 or 2 shitposters
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I'm fucking sick of this shit.
I change everybody to Mage since I'm told the guy I have to fight is weak to Lightning just for them to throw a second guy in there. It's been hard enough to kill just one in 3 turns but doing 2 is literally fucking impossible.
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>>553115538
he's weak to pierce iirc
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>>553115816
Yeah that's nice but my medium lightning damage synthesis skills only do like 250 damage to the lightning guy like it's legit impossible for me to do this in 3 turns without turning the difficulty down
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>>553115538
>4 mages
what the fuck are you doing, and why don't you have strohl maxed by this point? Samurai gets a lighting phys skill
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>>553116274
Because Strohl is boring ass generic best friend character from every Persona game and I don't prioritize his social link. Even if I fucking did his Swordmaster wouldn't be level 20 anyway.
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>>553115982
add a couple gunners
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>personafag tries to play a real video game
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>>553115538
Restart the game and only level up the canonical jobs for each character.

MC: Seeker, Healer
Hulkenberg: Knight, Mage
Strohl: Warrior, Commander
Heismay: Thief, Gunner, Merchant
Junah: Masked Dancer, Faker
Eupha: Summoner, Seeker
Secret last character: Brawler, Berserker

Use Hulkenberg's Knight synthesis moves for this boss fight IIRC.
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zorba
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>>553138515
this



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