Weakest Class EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>552465601 >Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719Vermintide 2:Gifts of the Wolf Fatherhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedDeep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotSCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>552733696Post a funny, fresh coopg OC photoshop meme pls :)
Is the Ogryn bowling penance currently bugged like that Psyker/Arby one? It's been eluding me for so long now
>>552734034freshest we got>>552734198should be still working, recently seen people claiming it on mortis trials using the SA server cheese strat
>>552734442I've recently leant that Augur was a professional diviner in roman empire, very funny.
reminder a good Ogryn is the MOST impactful class
>>552736782>impactfulRight, building for maximum Impact stat
>>552736782>+25% impact from Slam>+60% impact from Impactful>+10% strength (impact) from No Hurting Friends!>+10% weakspot strength (impact) from Strike TrueHow can ogryn achieve even more impact?Crunch! is a little impractical.
>>552737153>Crunch! is a little impractical.More like a little impactful!
>>552737214
>>552737153>How can ogryn achieve even more impact?Thunder Strike.
Finally tried the big bonking brick, finally a way to play zealot that is for me. I've gone full boss deletion meme on it.Also why does zealot get to have the best cosmetics. It's not fair.
>>552737480Big two-handed chainaxe for Zealot when
>>552737696Coming out in 7$ weapon pack for all classes in october
Where does 40k top off on the power scale exactly? I mean as far as Sci-Fi goes. The necrons are the strongest aren’t they?
>>552737480If you like boss deletion, try out the relic blade with shroudfield. I find that the thunder hammer struggles packs of elites, especially when you need to keep activating it after every swing.
>>552738623The chaos gods, the emperor, the (remaining) eldar gods, gork and mork, the hive mind, and finally the c'tan. The buck stops with them.
>>552738793The emperor is as powerful as the chaos gods if not more so. They are all afraid of him for a reason.
>>552738861Big E is on equal footing against any one of them in terms of direct power as of Godblight.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>no ammo storm>everyone melees all the time so we naturally blob together>armour packs get controlled and chopped down with teamwork>guns reserved for taking out specials quickly before they snipe/trap/flame/gas us>veteran aura keeping everyone at orange ammo>enemies are easy to identify because they have to close in to be a threat>manually engaging every enemy throughout the mission>no 50 full auto gunners shooting us from every angle every second>most fun ive had with a missionIt's amazing how much better the game is when it becomes vermintide instead of being shoot at bright flashes in the dark across the room simulator
>>552738861Nah he’s probably slightly weaker but it doesn’t matter because they’re all constantly dividing their strength between fighting off each other so their full power can never be brought down on anyone
>>552738623>>552738793What little we know about the Old Ones also puts them in the top tier as well. The Dark King and Necrons potentially destroying all of the universe via MAD with their super weapons like the Breath of the Gods is where it tops out in pure destruction scale wise.
>>552739418No, he is just as powerful if not more so. Emperor is one few beings who can completely erase chaos and its daemons from existance.And when I say "erase" I mean full on erasure throughout all space and time, they don't get banished, they are just straight up gone, deleted from existance and never coming back.And how the chaos gods work in warhammer, all daemons are just shards of their respective gods, erase enough of the daemons and eventually you erase the god itself. And the chaos gods are fully aware of this.
>>552739183You can have the same experience in every mission by having a psyker that can kill every ranged enemy in a massive, 30 meter long area just by shrieking once.
>>552739861He's not a match versus all of them going by The End and the Death, he only won that fight because of a combination of things going just right, like tricking Horus into letting go of his power, the chaos gods taking their sweet time giving it back out of overconfidence, and overlooking the obsidian blade that can kill anything because E Money had no way to kill Horus otherwise. By Godblight in 40k, all the worship has made him equal in power to Nurgle, but he's still not stronger than all of them combined unless he goes full Dark King.
>>552739861He can permakill daemons but that doesn’t translate to actually being able to do it to their respective patrons, otherwise he would just… do that. Like >>552739036 says he’s at best on par in a one on one, and it’s hard to say how strong he is beyond being way stronger in the Warp than he was 10k years ago.
its so funny how consoleplebs claim to be equal to pc players and then while i'm levelling a new character i come across droves of them who are level 30 and in heresy, and they can't even handle that. the 2 i just got were down for about 40% of the match time.
>>552739628>>552738623>destroying all of the universe via MAD with their super weapons like the Breath of the Gods is where it tops out in pure destruction scale wise.Pretty much. So, way above stuff like Star Wars, Mass Effect, Halo. Below the big dogs like Doctor Who, Baxter’s works, arguably Star Trek (due to the Q) etc., as far as comparing it to other franchises goes.
>>552740591What exactly is their issue though? Is it just the gamepad not being as good a control scheme or what?
>>552740591Sounds like an exaggeration and you fixating on a handful of instances while overlooking the times that didn’t happen.
>>552739183>It's amazing how much better the game is when it becomes vermintide instead of being shoot at bright flashes in the dark across the room simulatorI played a few matches of ratclick during the wolf father event and I found myself just constantly thinking this. It's mindboggling just how bad the combat balancing is in darktide in comparison to ratclick and I can't think of how that could possibly be rectified at this point. I really do hope Fatshark is secretly working on Ratclick 3 or Darktide 2 behind the scenes because quite frankly, darktide 1 is fucked beyond repair and ratclick is starting to show its age, though I'm definitely not holding out hope considering their developer portfolio woes.
>>552740591I play with controller users in havoc 40 with some regularity. They can be better than (You).
Whats a fun psyker build?
>>552741736Yeah
>fucking retard puts a skull marker where the ennemies are coming from>can't tag ennemies in the distance because of itI swear I hate commissar larpers
>>552741078>>552741356yeah something thats happened to me over and over again, and across multiple games too, must not be as important as you carrying your highschool gf who's on xbox (she's good at the game i swear)
>>552742819What I said stands.
>>552742696Thanks for the griefing tactic
>>552734442I've not seen this captcha yet.
>>552741348>ratclick is starting to show its ageIt really isn't.
>>552743441Ratclick2 visually would have held up much better and fresher, if they left deep dark shadows like in 1st game. It looks very washed out, flat and barren desu.
>>552741348It's guns. 40k has modern guns so you're constantly getting shot and to make it work they give you a second healthbar that refills all the time and full immunity on your retard slides with no limit on them like dodges and blocking haveAnd all the gunners make no attempt to get close so you have to have a person spend most of the mission staying out of melee and shooting them like a state-mandated waystalker mainGuns warp the game so hard they had to remove friendly fire
>>552741736What sounds fun to you?Being a constant warp sprinkler that deletes every enemy smaller than a crusher with gigantic cones of fire and creates chain reactions of elites exploding into more fire damage?Being a glass cannon greatsword wielder that cuts through entire hordes with a single psychic slash and stabs big enemies in the face?If it's either of those, then there you go.
>>552743252You're welcome...
>>552743327Clear your browser cookies
Am I right in thinking mobility is the dump stat for most weapons?
>>552745463Yes.
>>552741736what the other anon said, warp greatsword is pretty fun. strong even during leveling
>>552745463No.
>>552745463If you aren't sure and don't have a good reason to assume another stat is less useful, always dump mobility. A lot of the time the usefulness of other stats can be nuanced and complicated, and mobility tends to have the least useful benefits going from 60 -> 80. You always get the maximum number of dodges at 60% anyway, which is the part that counts.
>>552746709It can also be supplanted by a single stamina curio. Mobility is a dump stat is a dump stat IS a dump stat.
>>552746773The nuance here is that some weapons have other completely useless stats, like stability on most shotguns, or collateral on weapons that have jack shit for suppression anyway, while such weapons might also be brought for sprinting (think: thunder hammer + laspistol/combat shotgun, you want your sprint stick to run fast, but don't care about shit like stability or suppression)Again, this is very nuanced.4chan is autistic AND retarded, and half of you fuckers don't even play the game, with an even smaller fraction even understanding what the stats do in the first place.
>>552745515>>552746709Got it, thanks.
>>552746927Mobility is almost always useless EXCEPT in your caveats. That is why MOBILITY is generally accepted AS THE Dump Stat.
>>552747097Yes, >>552746709 already explained it, hence>4chan is autisticThere are other edge cases that are even more debatable and situational, but even broaching the subject would likely spawn multiple meltdowns.
>>552745463warp resistance (melee) = collateral (ranged) = quell speed (staves) > mobility > defensethermal resistance for plasma, cleave damage for bleed knife
Defence is the dump stat.
>>552747205I don't want to talk about break points. I really, really don't. Crying about not being able to kill a mauler in 4 hits compared to 5 is a non-issue in my opinion. Just keep swinging.
Dog is the dump stat
>>552747505NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN GOOD BOY MASTIFFARINO!!!!!!!
>>552745463Maybe.
>>552745463Well yes, but actually no.
>>552747238>quell speed>thermal resistancestop trolling
>>552747238do you even play this game?
I don't understand hive scum
>>552747238Literally the only correct thing on this list is warp resistance for melee.
>>552750076What's not to understandYou do infinity damage and life your entire life in i-frames
>>552750076shoot needle at elites specials and bosses
>>552750076for fun class
>>552750076Linguistically or philosophically?
>>552752520Accoustically
>>552753673I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW OPEN FIRE
>>552752520spiritually
>>552752520Sexually
You know what would be interesting? A mission where the Mourningstar is boarded, again.
>>552755109I think it would be interesting if you were dead! Shall I kill you?
normalgroid
>>552755940Lol, isnt that a reference to a youtube video?
>>552755940No need, observe.
>>552755940space king horde shooter when?
>>552757584It'd have to be indie, they won't sell out to corporate.
Are you supposed to stay at high peril when playing melee psyker? Also how do you open up open up Bulwark as melee psyker?
>>552758063>Are you supposed to stay at high peril when playing melee psyker?No. Low peril to stay in scrier's gays
>>552749119>>552749593>>552750349guaranteed replies from shitters who think they know anything about the game from watching youtube
>>552758373t. quells passively or doesn't know about weapon-based quell speed
>>552758479>strawman
>>552758508Poopman
>>552747238accurate except for >collateral (ranged) People always say "bro but when the enemy staggers you cant get headshots anymore" to which I say pure and simple skill issue, I'd rather something staggers which has the potential to proc multiple damage bonuses depending on who's in the team and I have to slightly ajdust my aim to keep hitting headshots, which isn't actually hard because the stagger animations are canned and always the same. Generally anyone who says something about things being hard to hit is a scrub, it's a pve game with incredibly easy canned animations. You don't have to be an aim god to consistently hit through all of the little animations, just not functionally retardedAlso on some guns this affects suppression which is even better
Damage is the dumpstat.
>>552758063There are two schools of thought regarding melee psyker:1. maximize scrier's gaze stacks by quelling lots of peril2. maximize warp rider and unstable power by quelling as little as possibleThe former fluctuates more between higher highs and lower lows, the latter is relatively consistent in its output.
>>552734198Try the raised walkway section of the new trench map, before you get to the open ground. When a horde spawns you can go right down the middle of the walkway and the enemies can't get out of the way. Also a good spot to get the "bull rush 4 ogryn enemies in the same charge" penance. I accidently got the "charge plague ogryn during its charge" one as well there.
>>552738623Pre-DAOT humans were pretty bonkers as well. Weapons that could stop fusion in stars, robots that ate planets, in one of the dark angels books they talk about ammunition that doesn't just destroy what it hits but erases it from existence. The marine shoots a bunch of guys and he like "even with my eidetic memory I can't remember the targets, I just know there were 20 of them".
>>552758063the greatsword slash will stagger bulwarks and open their shields, doesn't need to be buffed at all. if you take the brainburst talent to auto BB elites and specials the slash will also proc that on enemies through walls. useful when a trapper/bomber/flamer/sniper runs around a corner.
>>552758063The push attack on force swords staggers bulwarks wide open, they're actually easier to kill on this build than most other melees. Failing that you can always bait the swing and hit back while they leave themselves open.
>>552758063There are two ways to play it, playing around staying in scriers for as long as possible to maximize finesse stacks (low peril and chains)And building for unstable power blessings which is the opposite, staying at high peril to get the most out of the +25% strength, which is much more annoying and requires a little forward planning, but has a slightly higher spike of power.Both work really well, give both a try to see which one you like more.
>>552762780Also note that if you plan to play the former which is the 'most common' way to play scriers, don't take unstable power as you will not be benefiting from it.
are there any specials on weapons worth making skitarius repeat endlessly instead of actually using the weapon properly?the ogryn has an uppercut and i half wonder if i shouldn't just have that loop endlessly
>>552762987Arbiter shock maul (1h) has a special attack chain for the specials.
>>552762987ogryn club slap is funny
>>552763085it actually is kind of good
>>552762780do you have a build for high peril scrier?
Please stop leaving even if you die in embarrassing ways. It's more embarrassing to rage quit than it is to wait for rescue.
>>552763770sorry your approval doesn't matter
>>552763707take: unstable power, warp rider, warp ghost, warp unboundavoid: by crack of bone, battle meditation, reality anchor
>>552763770I just got the game on winter sale, but I feel like a large number of my deaths come from getting thrown off the map by an exploding barrel. there's so many exploding objects in dark tide
I love Mortis Expeditions, the Mortis Trials really were just a tech demo!
>>552766567Thanks for the next update leak.
>>552765943That honestly just comes down to awareness and experience. You'll learn that sometimes you want to take out the barrels from a distance before heading into an area, especially if its a narrow walkway. Its extra funny when you can do it to enemies and bosses.
>>552765943There's even a mission type that adds more exploding barrels.
finally getting to vet and haven't used lasguns that much and want to make sure i get the general idea. helbore is for charging and taking out elites specials and gunners before you get into melee. recon is you spraying enemies with burn stacks then getting into melee. infantry is in the middle?
>>552768229Helbore is for shooting everything in the head, including crushers, and winning. Also literally infinite ammo, you can't run out if you play your cards right.Laspistol is the superior las weapon by every relevant metric, with helbore being its only competition.Recon las is either for going full BRRRRT with the blue one, or, if you haven't discovered the laspistol yet, or hate clicking and don't want to install a mod to auto click for you, the brown one for sniping heads with. It's also a lot easier to use since you're not that strictly required to hit heads, and it can cleave through hordes good.Infantry las is for putting in the trash, as it is worse than the laspistol in every way that matters.All las weapons except the helbore, are very well off using Dumdum + Infernus for additional DPS and melting bosses with fire. You can theoretically build the laspistol for raw headshot damage too, but it then becomes even harder to use than it already is, heavily depending on your aim.
>>552765943>been playing with friends and barreling them constantly>go to quickplay and barrel people out of habitOne guy rage quitted mid-flight (after the fifth barrel). If I have barreled you as well, I am not sorry and I will do it again.
>>552768229pretty much yeahwith infantry lasgun and the laspistol you want to spam headshots as fast as possible
>>552768680It happened, this anon is a total BADA$$
>>552768229pretty much. Infantry is middle of the road, I still like it though. Snappier than the helbore, better headshot breakpoints than the recon, and better at long range than the laspistol (which does matter sometimes).Right now the mk VII is the better infantry lasgun, strong enough to 1-2 shot specials/gunners, fast enough to stack infernus on tougher targets. mkIIb is like a hardier recon if you're prepared to click that much. And the scab hp boosts screwed over the MkIX
>>552768680I had a nearly flawless havoc 40 run this morning until I completely overlooked a barrel that the psyker set off because a beast of nurgle parked its fat ass right on top of it. Perfectly barreled me off the map. Had a good laugh, still got the W, but unfortunate for the other guy who didn't seem to have True Survivor because that was almost the run lmao
>>552768663>>552768726havent had a laspistol drop yet so would i need run n gun to reduce spread on it to bang weakspots or can i go full damage blessings? bolter and bolt pistol are fun but id like to try a shooty build without griefing my team for ammo lol.
>>552769212I don't believe it even has access to Run 'n' Gun.You can just slap Dumdum + Infernus on it. It's almost pinpoint accurate, the only issue is that the sight on it isn't 100% reliable.Ghost + Desperado also works for a more defensive setup.Make sure you use the mark with fast fire and no recoil, as it's the more practical one.>havent had a laspistol dropYou can just buy yourself one and upgrade it, or check Melk whether he has one and buy it with Melkbux if you're new and poor. Good on you for being cheap though, resources are kind of a pain when you're new.
last purchase of this winter sale
What time do Germans usually go to bed? I want to win a few games.
>>552770390In around 3 hours, for productive members of society.
>>552770518>staying awake past 21:00 >productivelol
>>552770582You can't make it on 6 hours of sleep? Baby need the full 8? Maybe 10?
>>552770582Some people don't start work until 9 AM or so, and might not have a long commute. It's not unheard of.
>>552770582guten abend Jermann
>>552770685Yeah :) I used to sleep 5-6 hours but nowadays I always try to get 7-8. The difference it makes is insane. Both in terms of physical fitness but also mental fitness, my brainfog is completely gone. I used to feel almost remote controlled, now I feel great
>>552770897I switched to biphasic, so I have a stretch of 6, then get a couple hours in the evening.
>>552768680>after the fifth barrelkek. you fucking bastard
>>552768680You can't barrel me if I stand just out of range (I can see the AoE)
>>552768680>flame psyker barreling peopleI swear it isn't intentional, can't even see the things with how dense enemies are.
Does anyone else feel like their melee is never good enough when playing vet? It's probably a psychological thing because being forced into melee as the ranged special killer man always feels like you're being put on the back foot, but then I suppose that's an intentional bit of friction without which you'd just be stomping.
Telopots was right about /coopg/
>>552738731Relic With Shroudfield was pretty nice. I played a bit of that recently (started off with IJ to see if there was a build where it was relevant...then went back to Martyr after one game). Losing FOTF didn't feel like nearly the same loss that it is when running TH. TH desperately needs the attack speed during hordes where Relic Blade does fine without. And yeah, TH also just struggles against elite groups too if they haven't buffed the special-hit-selfstun cycle of its activation. It's not as puckering as trying to use the Eviscerator against Crusher/Mauler groups, but it's not far off (at least when I was last using it regularly, which was when Rotten Armour was in Aurics). I should try it out again to see if they buffed it at all in the time I wasn't playing Zealot much. I always want to like the TH a lot more than I actually do.
>>552770161hell yeah, time to play arbites soonin for what bros?
>>552772239who is telenogs?
>>552772452being literally unkillable
>>552747367Truth.>>552752520Yes.>>552755940>>552758598I laughed.
>>552768680Playing hive scum with dual shivs has been a disaster for meI am clicking so fast that I am putting very little thought into what I'm actually swinging at, and will sometimes keep swinging while looking over my shoulder behind me and click on a barrel and fling myself off the mapI've done this twice while playing with anons here trying to level their assignment
Who has the best and worst vanilla drip? Who has the best and worst paypiggie drip?
>>552773012gods i can't wait desu
>>552772239And what did they say, pray tell?
>>552771053Doesn’t that make you feel groggy? Taking naps in general always make me feel weird
>>552740665Any fps game is unplayable without auto-aim on a controller, that is you can play it, but you will always get trounced by someone using mouse to aim.
>>552772109vet's melee is more vulnerable to chip damage, with a lack of toughness on hit or casual passive toughness generation. Kill or be killed.
>>552772239Your father was right about you.
>>552768680How do you guys even barrel people? Most players I play with seem self aware enough to stay away from them and in the middle of all the chaos I can’t really pay attention to when they do get close to one.>>552767321Maybe I’ll try this…
>>552743441It is though. Not like damningly but most games that are 8 years old are going to show it.
>>552750076Press your dodge key., hold your shoot key.
>>552773490I'm pretty sure darktide does have aim assist when the gamepad is active, even if you're playing on pc, and it's not like it's a competitive or shooting exclusive game. I think the bigger issue is that your turn rate suffers where mouse can change direction faster.
>>552773508Why I will never tire of knife vet, best block is not getting hit in the first place.
how good are the relic blades?
>>552773850>bigger issue is that your turn rate suffersit's very noticeable when I spectate people. it's kinda funny
>>552772109You sound like you haven't tried the dueling sword
>>552773508It's less the chip damage and more just the time spent getting bogged down by the horde while there are high priority targets you should be shooting.
>>552774052Lots of fun, good horde clear and single target.
>>552771627Thanks for reminding I should install that mod (cheat).
>>552774252thrust and uncanny or just one of them with agile?
>>552774687It's not cheating if there's someone on the team actively shooting barrels to troll you
>>552771631all AoE weapons are pretty bad about accidentally setting off barrelsa rumblermaxxed ogryn will set off every barrel in the entire neighborhood just by playing that build normally
>>552772109>Does anyone else feel like their melee is never good enough when playing vet?No because I use the power sword.I don't even have melee talents and it just cuts everything in half.
>>552773490>>552773850Aiming with an analog stick is obviously a no-go but I've seen people perform pretty well in FPS games by using a controller's gyroscope to control the camera. It looks kinda dumb seeing them flail around the controller though.
>>552774252I've spent enough time using the sewing needle to know I don't like it on vet. It's fine on psyker and zealot with the flame secondaries, but on vet I want to specialize the gun for ranged kills, and then not having good horde clear on either weapon feels pretty shit.>>552775245The killing power on the sword is good, but it handles like slow shite.
It's out. Anyone buy it? Does it have quickplay matchmaking? Is it worth bothering with?
>>552775532Power sword anon here.Dueling sword on vet demands investment to actually feel good, which is why I don't use it, because vet is supposed to shoot things.>inb4 melee vet copeDon't wanna hear it, go seethe in havoc 26 or something.Power sword becomes better when you learn how to use it properly. The biggest secret is to block cancel the activation animation, and ideally run a single stamina curio for when a rape gang of ragers stuns you from the forced activation block.It also helps to realize that Power Cycler is made with Swedish spaghetti code and meatballs, to where the pushfollow stab on the Mk VI completely breaks Power Cycler UNLESS you immediately make an attack afterwards.
fffuck yes.
>>552773798I mean yes and no. If you really want to split hairs over the differences in graphical detail between a game from last decade and current releases you definitely can, but the way I think about it is that past a certain level of fidelity you can just glance at a game and it simply looks like "modern game with no obvious polygons or edges" and how many vertices it has doesn't matter that much beyond that point, kind of like an asymptote of progress.
>>552774696Agile is strong but it definitely makes you a lazier player.
>>552772109I just use a wrath chainsword and spam m1 and seems to do fine when its needed and the occasional special attack for if some rager or mutant is in my face
>keep wiping havoc when joining low 30s entire last week>try bubble psyker, taunt ogryn, zealot, nothing seems to be enough to carry >start to think that maybe im doing something wrong>decide to just climb the assignment ranks myself >host a 30 >pick a pretty unconventional lineup, greatsword psyker, myself as staff psyker, a zealot and hiv cum >we clear it without anyone even going down>greatsword psyker asks if we wanna try 40>"sure im down for that">we clear the 40 with just 2 deaths from the hiv cum and that's that, thanks for reading my blog. genuinely thought i was doing something wrong but it really is just a matter of finding the right people
>>552777190I've been in your shoes before. After several failures, the self doubt really sets in. To be fair, I'm sure there's plenty of room for improvement. I've never bothered learning triggers and have no inclination to do so, and that's probably a big one for me.I also haven't touched Havoc in months. I'm kind of tempted to do it, but every time I open up Party Finder, I go play Aurics instead.
>>552777190It's always other people. Us? We're perfect and don't you ever doubt yourself again babygirl.
>>552776909New Darktide player (coming from Vermintide), rlly like the revolver for Vet but wanna RP and don't know much about 40k lore. Any advice for weapons/builds?Was also considering a Catachan Jungle Fighter build with Devil's Claw for melee vet but dunno what ranged weapon would be good for that
>>552777190Try playing at degenerate hours, if possible. Day-job-havers and similar normies tend to be terrible at the game.Although chances are you're just bad. I kind of concluded that I was bad at havoc ogryn after a loss streak of 8 games with otherwise decent teams.Maybe it's both. Maybe you and I just got unlucky. I'm sure the sample size isn't large enough to be statistically relevant anyhow.
>>552777894refer>>552768663>blue oneMk XIIJust be sure to take Shock Trooper talent that makes Crit Hits take no ammo. After that just aim for the head. People will tell you melee vet is just bleed knife but really anything with armor penetration is viable as long as you know how to dodge and when to slide.
>>552776410nice
>>552776028Poast build?
>>552769535>>552768663yeah laspistol kind of fucks. paired it with knife and krak for now, kind of nutty how long i can fire without having to reload lol.
>>552781198I use this as a build skeleton with a Surgical bolter. You can figure out the rest. In auric, I like taking literally all of the reload talents including the +10% under frags. If you wanted to be optimal, Reciprocity on the right, and 25% clip size on the left, probably. 6 tag stacks is always worth considering. 5% toughness on kill is obviously QoL, as is the +10% melee speed, but I don't like relying on either of them.Maybe don't take this as havoc 40 advice. It's been ages since I've bothered to play vet in h40, so I can't confidently speak on it. I'd probably prefer laspistol or helbore nowadays. Build skeleton would likely look very similar, but with a definitive +1 grenade and 6 piss stacks for nuking bosses quickly.
>>55273419856 is the most I ever got, fuck this penance
>>552773292I look like that
>>552782349>build skeletonOk, I'll bite... which youtuber came up with that term than?
>>552775994coopg? more like darktideg
>>552787363I didn't reply to it because I don't know what it is and the poster made 0 effort to say anything that would make me interested in it
>>552786809>which youtuber came up with that termThat's a completely normal term for video game skill trees, what the fuck are you hallucinating jewtubers into this for?>but X jewtuber said-What, are you gonna stop eating bread and drinking water just to be a contrarian faggot, too?
>>552743327If you're cookied already it only happens when you make a new thread.
>>552745463For like 99% of weapons except very specific cases that make no sense anyways like the needle pozz gun damage is the dump stat because it only affects the initial poke with the projectile not the DoT which is where 99.99% of the damage comes from.
Who is swagger is he just a random mystery nigga or is he CIA?
Reginald wonFuck tranner
>>552788640it is a cooperative game, you're meant to have these things on your radar and be looking out for them, not just playing one exclusively while pretending you enjoy more than just that one
>>552793587okay thanks for telling me what I'm supposed to know about but I still never heard of it and the post is presenting some obscure game without explanation
>>552792995>the younger dude in service to loli brahms, presumably changing voice actors after aging substantially>an elf guiding this human vs chaos conflict, as they do (unlikely due to height and build)>Grendyl, the actual inquisitor, who thinks Grandpa Brahm's use of his inquisitorial seal and name is funny and wants to get in on the jokeI like the last one the most because it adds a level of humor to the Grendyl X Rannick interaction>swagger humorously implies he is more closely associated with grendyl than rannick, rannick just gets flustered and wants to stop talking about it>rannick says every secret eventually gets revealed, swagger knowingly says "You'd be surprised," which would be fucking hilarious if he's grendyl saying it to his clueless subordinate who still hasn't figured it out
>>552792995he be Grendyl yo
>>552793587>you're supposed to know this random game on steam with 5 reviews on it then tell me about it otherwise you dont actually like co-op games
>>552795872>cursed gifAm I going to die in 7 days?
>>552737480What set is this? Looks pretty cool
>>552792995We don’t know. He’s just a random broker as far as the story is concerned so far. He has zero connection to the Celestial Intervention Agency as far as we can tell.
melee psyker feels like youre a dmc character
>>552797230Ten rapes a second? Sounds about right.
Is there some setting or file fuckery to change the length of my gun from my body?It feels cramped as hell like I've got midget arms
>hmmm farttide seems fun!!>lose to the boss of the first campaign mission with a team of 2 zealots, 1 vet, and 1 arbitratordid i get filtered
>>552801623You can pretty much die at any moment for any reason at level 1 since you have no real way to regenerate toughness, so not necessarily
>>552743441It is. It's not terrible, which is why I specifically noted that it is STARTING to show its age, but going back to it from shopclick feels a bit like going back from ratclick 2 to ratclick 1 not that I expect 99% of the anons in this thread to fully grasp that comparison as i know almost none of you fucks actually played the first game
>>552801623Only if you're the kind of guy that likes boring games where you never lose.
>>552801623Not really. Everyone is pretty bad early on and your gear and talent trees are even worse, so there are a number of ways for things to snowball out of control
>>552795872yes, there were people here discussing fucking mycopunk for god's sake
>>552804921yes and i'm sure they did it without anyone telling them what the game was
>>552804921mycopunk has 2500 reviews, that game has like 8
>>552805161it came out today
>>552801623Unironically earlier levels on easier difficulties are harder than max level on heresy or damnationThis game plays like absolute shit without a full build
>>552805219are you pretending to not get the point nigger? nobody here knows that game, what is there to talk aboutmycopunk was talked about here when it was out for some months and people knew of it via word of mouththat word of mouth could be you, instead you whine that people don't know a game you found that released today
>retard teammate hits daemonhost>i get focused insteadbut why
>>552807068For the critical error of expecting your teammates to not do that.
>>552807068I dropped agro with invis
>>552807068I have never had this happen to me. What causes it? Just being the nearest one?
>>552807318Wait I think I did do that before to someone when I was doing the vet penance for the invis ability.
>there is a penance that, by its nature, must take 20 weeksniggershit game
>>552773490>Any fps game is unplayable without auto-aim on a controllerYou've never used a controller then. Aim assist isn't some auto lock-on mode. It some games it actively hurts the player, it's all how the devs coded it into the game.
>>552807068If it was asleep, the first hit or getting too close activates it, the second to occur aggros it. So they probably shot it just as you were getting to close causing you to activate it and become the target
>>552807339This happens sometimes, but i don't know why>>552807318Doesn't work any more
>>552740591The issue with this game and vermintide 2 is that the lock on is fucking retarded and half the time it will lock in to the shitter trash mob in front of you instead of the thing you actually want to shoot at.Auto aim actively hurts you in this game if you want to play anything that isn't unga bunga arbites or ogryn and that's because fatshark can't figure out how to make auto aim not fucking suck
>>552807786The havoc rewards one is kind of silly. But even without the DLC class penances, there are a couple hundred more earnable penance points than the max reward for the penance track requires.
so much swag
>>552808061And he isn't even the one called Swagger
pretty cool voice desu
Any games like gears of war, far cry and dying light where you can join other people’s campaigns and there is cross progression? Love campaign co-op
Did they rework the arbites tree? All my shit got reset and I dont remember what my builds were like
>>552808909space marine 2 and resident evil 6
>>552808909Borderlands, Torchlight 2 (I don't know about 1 and 3), Terraria, Halo MCC.
>>552808909Dying Light (1, 2, and 3) all have this and it's a blast.
>>552808802Also a cool helmet. Works best with the dreamer
>>552809907They all have the carried cross progression?
>>552809771>>552809283You can’t randomly join in random campaigns in halo mcc or spacemarine 2 though right?
>>552811195You carry xp and gear for sure. Additionally, while it's been a while so I could be wrong, I'm pretty sure there's campaign progression as well, though I don't recall exactly how it works if you're substantially ahead of or behind the host player.
>>552807808What. My point was that you'll never be able to aim well with a controller in a fps game without some kind of aimbot borderline cheat assist.
>playing shout vet>get deadeye penance for killing enemies during volley shotthats a new one, is it because my teammate activated their executioners stance with the perk to make the targets highlight for allies? if so thats neat.
>She uses the MkVIII greatswordDECLINED
>finally finish Poxbreaker>zero motivation to keep playingthis game is boring
>>552813164>spent hundreds of hours playing a boring game so you could get a meaningless achievement
>>552733696Question regarding Battle Wizard in VT2: https://www.ranalds.gift/heroes/13/123112/3-4-3-6/73-3-6-6/3-2-1/3-4-2/3-2-3Is this build ok? I used it earlier today and one of my teammates said it was sub-optimal or some shit. Don't tell me you actually are supposed to still take Lingering with Corsu?
I can't believe I want to buy this. I am so pathetic.
>>552794017I'd buy it on the playful personality alone. I'm sure there are Inquisitors that love their status just to fuck with people.
>>552807068Your soul is the most delicious.
>>552814415The only thing I'd change is switching Kaboom out for Burnout.
>>552815074Oink
>>552815074Honestly it's your money. Do what you want if you can afford it.
>>552802434no, i just didnt know if the starter campaign is baby tier and im just a retard, or if it's actually normal to lose
>>552816123If you have people that don't know how to deal with shields then yeah that boss can suck. And no one has perks or blessings to help with your damage or defenses.
>>552816123Again, until you get more perk points, you're basically naked. On top of not having the best gear right away; that comes with time and saving resources.Just take it on the chin and keep going. You still get XP even if you lose.
>>552815074pls buy it so I can get more maps and weapons pack
>>552814415It's a fine build.Coruscation is great on its own, but doesn't synergize much with Battle Wizard. Famished Flames only applies to the initial cast and final explosion burn damage of the Coruscation, and does not affect the burn damage of the flaming pillar area itself. Definitely don't use Lingering Flames, It only allows a single instance of burn on a target, cockblocking most of Coruscations damage which comes from rapidly stacking its own burn.
>>552801118There's an FOV mod.
So how long do you think it will be until Fatshark announces anything for either game?
>>552816826Are they even back from vacation yet?
>>552813392You got his ass there
>>552816826they're on vacation for the next 2 months at least
>>552816826New game soon. Trust the plan
>>552816720>it doesn't synergize with that much with BWIt's the only time I've ever felt like it did damage. Tried it on Unchained a few times, and even had a Foot Knight knocking shit over into the pillars, and the damage was still dismal.
>>5528168262 weeks.
>>552816826Depends. Is it snowing in Stockholm right now? Has it snowed within the past year? Will it snow within the next year?If the answer to any of these is yes, then the estimated time window for the next Fatshark update is:"lol"
>>552816826Bro we JUST had a roadmap. Why not just relax.
>>552793363With pleasure.I would paint that little faggots colon white.
Psyker>Veteran>Arbites>Zealot>Ogryn>Hivescum
>>552819226Wrong
>>552819226Zealot>Arbites>Scum>Veteran>Psyker>Ogryn
>>552819016you don’t look like that and no you wouldn’t
Builds are out of vogue, post your stimm lab setup.
>>552819303approved by mister e
>>552819016I look like this and I would.
>>552819767
>>552818020wait wait wait i was only joking with this i wasn't seriousWAIT WAIT WAIT NO-
>mutant grabs me and runs me straight into the center of a bomber's grenade patch
>>552819226>Hive ScumI have yet to meet one that doesn't get downed multiple times per mission.
>play ogryn with club>slow, tanky, club barely kills shit because of utter trash damage profiles but you can make it work >play arbites with shockmaul>fast, just as tanky, maul just inexplicably kills everything way better than a club 5x its size and weight thats swung half as fastokay then
>>552823059They should just delete the ogryn at this point arbites does everything an ogryn can and better
>>552823059Just light attack spam with the mk 3 bully club with skullcrusher, thunderous and maxxed out impact
>>552823715still worse than arbites maul and you still have to do it on an extremely slow sluggish character whereas arbites is just as fast. worse cleave too if you pick the impact stuff
>>552823840The arbites maul doesn't get skullcrusher
>>552824431arbites maul comes with skullcrusher built in
>>552824891slaughtere or something isn't it?
Realistically speaking can fatshark rebalance the game so "difficulty" isn't spamming caperace shit at you every 20 seconds or is the game too far gone?
>>552824891No it doesn't
Why does this stipulate the penance must be done in a private game?
>>552827404it used to be 90% and retards would throw games and sperg out in public games when they didn't get it on release
>>552827404Because on launch every second game had someone griefing trying to do these shitty penances and then crying when the team didn't bend over backwards to help them.Instead of making them not shitty fatshark just locked them to private games (they eventually nerfed most of them to be pretty easy but never removed the private game lock because ????)
>>552822920I've been poxburster'd, flamed, overhead'd, and gunned down when a (silent) mutant grabs me at an unfortunate time.But you know what the rarest and worst one is? A sniper shooting me the moment a mutant decides to throw me. It's only ever happened once to me, but I still seethe about it.
>>552827718>>552827738I see, thanks. I surmise by context they mean do 50% of its life with Brain Burst. I also surmise you can use Brain Rupture, too?
>>552822920>dog pounces me right next to a mob door>tock... tock...>ohfethno>dog gets shot off me but still can't move>fucking burster pops out the door and immediately explodes>lmao downed gg no re
the brahms bloodline must continue..
>>552830198the eggs anon… they’re gone…
>>552830198I'll do it...I will bear her seed
Beat my first havoc 25!
>>552819226Psyker>hive scum>vet>arbites>ogryn>zeanotenough.Anyone who says that 2 million damage shitter is bad is straight up not good at darktide.
>>552819226Exquisite bait
>>552793363What did he win
>>552835352The suck off
lmao
>>552836274Lol
what is the point of axes?
>>552837926Point? No; axes are for slashing, not stabbing!
>>552837926Put brutal momentum on them
>>552837926Not bad at anything, not the best at anything. no matter the build an axe will always work. no gimmicks, just axing,
>join mission>single guy>daemonhost in front of us>triggers it and instantly leaveswho are these people and how can I have them executed
>>552838689That was me. Sorry not sorry!
>>552838689that was me. eat shit freak
>>552838689He was embarrassed at making such a rookie mistake when he wanted to look cool and competent for you
>have a string of great matches>then a string of absolutely dogshit matchesThe Emperor giveth and The Emperor taketh.
>>552839226No i didn't. I left because i'm fucking evil
>>552839643Tsundere.
new ogryn, just got the mkIIIb bully club, my intuition tells me the combo is L12 H3 L4 but I may also be retarded, is it that or H1 L234?
>>552841541It's just light attack spam and nothing else
>>552841541It's pretty much exclusively light spam, though the heavy overhead isn't entirely terrible either while enemies are approaching you.
>>552841541no fancy combos for the basher, spam heavies or spam lights. pushattack-light-light for a fun single target bopping.
>>552841541the club feels like shit after using shield H1 spam for awhilenew weapons when...
>>552839490Figured it out. I was playing las vet in the first matches then switched to zealot once the weeklies were done. No one was targeting specials in the second matches. It really is a noticeable difference between damnation and heresy how many dudes there are.
>>552841541the MKlIlb is so good that you can just spam lights with occasional heavies against everything
>>552842451Bring a slug shotgun, or bolt pistol, or las pistol and do it yourself. Not trying to excuse or justify quickplay retards, but you evidently can't rely on them, so you gotta do everything yourself.
>>552842215Or the karasol pickaxe. Relaxed heavy attack horde clear with good stagger, push attack is a poke with the weapon butt that will drop an ogryn on its ass, the special is a hook that will pull over anything smaller than an ogryn and stagger ogryns and pulls bulwark shields down, and the special combos into a heavy downward stikedown to bop the bulwark right in its noggin.
>>552808802>>552810328The Praesimiagoria Rebreather series of helmets are my favourite Psyker headgear. I have the Mk Ic from the Giulius Thrice-Blessed. I might get the Mk IX if it gets a bundle with more recolors, because one in Brass/Gold with shining eyes like the Ic or IX would be cool (I think blue shine would work with the brass/gold to make the shine pop).The Praesimiagoria series is also perfect for a Navigator Cosplay if you happen to have the Acolyte's Greatcoat from the Inquisitorial Agents set. For staff skins the Astro-Telepath's Staff is perfect, and the Nightstalker Brocade comes in second (Datamine show a third staff that's like the Nightstalker but black. Emperor only knows when that and the stuff I mentioned above will be available because of this BS FOMO system).I couldn't find a Navigator pic in my old 40K folder, so have this Ahriman. The pic makes think "Why isn't there power armour designed for Navigators?". Maybe Navigators weren't in melee/short range combat enough? No need = no STC blueprint for Navigator armour.
>>552842650i know the pickaxe is one of the ogryn's better picks(heh) but i've played enough slayer bardin+pick in V2 to last me a lifetime
>>552841541The joke is for the mk3 you just unbind the heavy attack so you can literally w+m1 hordes.
What perks do you take on the blaze greatsword? Is it even worth putting carapace on it?
why do so many people use the throwing knife on zealot? whats wrong with the other two grenades?
>>552842694I forgot to mention I use the helmet with the Female Seer. Can't immediately remember hearing the voice change with a Male Seer. With the Male Loner I've had people say the voice is scary as hell.>>552827404>>552827718>>552827738>>552829001Brain Rupture should do, as I'm pretty sure I got it with BR.And yes, Fatshark should make the penances less bullshit and remove that Private Mission tag.
>>552843315>holdover from when the tree was worse and you basically had to take knives to get good pathing>using a ranged weapon with slow swap speed and skipping the animation with a knife>using the flamer and need a way to take out specials at range>throwing knives are just cool and satisfying to usetake your pick
>>552843315Can oneshot most specials with a headshot and the throw is quick, great for shit like trappers or bombers/flamers that will give you trouble. Can also kill bursters with a headshot if you don't want to push it, and they can regen on melee elite kill so you get the regularly. If you have a close range weapon like the flamer it gives you some options for snipers and such.
>tard 1 waddles away from the team, around 2 corners, and gets dogged>nobody tries to help him, try to do it myself>tard 2 shoots a barrel in my face>get pushed back>dog flies past me>get pushed back >dog apparently lands on tard 2>get to tard 1, help him>tard 2 is rage-pinging on himself>0 health curio 0 corruption res veteran, goes down to 99% purple>find med stimm>can't pick it up because scum>ping it at least 6 gorillion times>corruptard pays absolutely zero attention>as in, doesn't even acknowledge the ping, just walks past it like he has blinders on>some other retard picks it up>obviously doesn't stimm corruptard, probably doesn't even know you can do that>corruptard gets hit by a poxer not even 10 seconds after the stimm was picked up, implodes, instantly leavesI KNEW this was going to happen the instant I saw the med stimm and realized I couldn't pick it up myself.
>>552843110I do carapace and unyielding. Makes maulers, crushers, and bosses dead quicker.>>552843315I run knives because I'm often using the flamer or bolter.The other reason is because blitzes in general are very unbalanced right now. There's nothing wrong with running stuns or immolation, though you will be competing with scums and ogryns for grenade pickups. So naturally you won't get to use the zealot grenades unless shit really hits the fan.
>>552844510Did you play fucking malice or something?
>>552844762Yes I play auric, which is basically malicelet daycare.
>>552819719Drop your 'cord, Tranner. I'm in the mood.
I was somehow not aware of how good the voidblast staff is.
>>552843110It's your answer to carapace, so yes always put carapace on it. Second can be flak (horde clear) or unyielding (bulwarks, reapers and bosses). >>5528433151. If you're using flamer it's your only long range option2. Zealot's grenades can't compete with most grenades on the other classes, so it's better to let your team use grenades while you keep your regenerating knives (provided you have faith in your team to not be useless).
>>552845617drop your build? is it havoc viable??
>>552843559>>552842694That’s also a really cool name. Praesimigoria. Wow. Wish we had more options to dress up as stuff.
>>552845928https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a0c51510-07b4-4a9a-8a60-4ae74f147ce3if you wanted to change something I'd say take off kinetic flayer and lightning speed and put those points elsewhere and obviously you can go bubble instead of shriek>is it havoc viable?probably, it has alot of stagger and the brittleness you apply helps the team and would mesh extremely well with a flame psyker
Newfag here. How often can you actually trigger those buff that you get from successful dodges on Zealot's tree? I know you dodge a lot in this game but do they have good uptime. Also how tight is the timing on successful dodges?
>>552847835The timing is pretty generous and the talents tend to have pretty good uptime when you're actually in the thick of it. Dodge talents also trigger on ranged dodges, which tend to happen often too.Unfortunately it's one of the reasons zealot is falling behind the curve currently, because unless you're on rape mode difficulties, your power crept allies will likely stagger or kill most targets before you can get a dodge in, and thus you lose momentum. Play extremely aggressively to compensate.
>>552847835you'll have basically 100% uptime on those any time you're in melee or attempting to close the gap on ranged enemies.
>>552846304Are the talents on the left any good? I always go down the soulflame path when using staves because it passively increases my DPS.
>>552848514Wildfire is bad, souldrinker is ok but mainly on an actual flame staff build.
>>552848637Not him, but I take wildfire on my electrostaff build, it works nicely.
>>552848637>wild fire is le bad
>>552849468Unless something has changed since the last time I tested it, I'd advise you to look into how much use you're actually getting out of wildfire. It sounds good on paper, but what it generally translates to is spreading a single stack of soulblaze to a few enemies. It's really underwhelming (again, unless something has changed).
>>552849468DoTs do jack shit when you don't stack them up enough, and Wildfire only spreads 4 stacks, while you have no way of stacking it high enough. You'd get more mileage out of Malefic Momentum and just whacking the occasional enemy. You'd also save a ton of points doing so.If you don't believe me, run Power DI and track your DoT. It'll be pretty bad for the huge investment it requires. It's only worth it with actual dedicated soublaze weapons, because it accelerates how quickly you put max stacks on a target.
>bleed double-barrel on scumAt last I truly see...
>>552849803I recall playing with someone testing that, and also playing it myself, and actual DoT being pretty weak. Unless you have it on in order to hit specific breakpoints I'm not aware of, you can probably get more mileage out of a different blessing. Primarily because most targets will just die before the DoT stacks up, and armored targets barely take any damage from it, so it's only really useful against monsters.
>>552849936Probably yeah, but I like seeing the bleed DOT.
Executioner's Stance is good wtf??
>your opinionvs>my opinion
>>552745463yes
>>552851992Vet's built for shooting things, of course the ability that encourages you to shoot things is good. It's pretty handy on Lights Out maps as well.
>>552852165>no highest team score>revived 2 timesShitter
>>552852836how do you even get team score anyway
>>552853216Who gives a fuck, install the ovenproof plugin so you don't get your scoreboard polluted with that faggot stoner's useless default settings. Team Score and all the other shit are purely arbitrary and retarded. You can get 160+ defense score from nonstop smigging and effectively being useless.
>>552853291>Team Score and all the other shit are purely arbitrary and retardedFound the shitter who can't get top team score.
>>552853387Damn dude you got me!!!
>using cheatschinese
>>552844510>0 health curio 0 corruption res veteranIs this supposed to be a failing on his part? Do YOU run health curios with corruption res? Just for this I'm going to assume the real fuck-up here was on your end
>>552855103>Do YOU run health curios with corruption res?Of course I do, I play havoc.>malicelet shitter opinionsNot gonna bother explaining why, it'll just bounce off your smooth brain anyway.
>>552855407yikes
>>552855407DECLINED
>>552855407
>>552855407>health>not staminaI can tell you don't block, and if you don't block, you sure as shit aren't playing havoc.
>20 different cheat mods>still too retarded to just put on a single health curio with corruption resist>instantaneously eats shit to a single poxbursterThis is most of (You), I can tell.
>>552857250>he gets hit by poxburstersNow we know you're a hardstuckie.
>>552855407Lmfao are you the power sword melty?
>>552857489What
h40 is literally only possible if you use my specific curio setup
Should i take +1 wound on all my curious on Martydom to get that extra block of health or am i better off take a toughness curio instead?
>>5528576392 wound, 1 toughness
>>552857639Take a toughness curio or something. They specifically reworked martyrdom so we didn't need to use 3 wound curios.
>>5528576392 wound curios gets you to max Martyrdom effectiveness, plus you get a toughness curio3 wound curios gets you to max Martyrdom effectiveness, and keeps you there even if Holy Revenant triggersBoth options work
>>552857792both work but option 1 is better
Holy shit, this really is just a 40k general. Do you guys play any other games or is this really it?
>>552858619games?
>>552858619Feel free to discuss any co-op game you like, no one's going to stop you.
>>552848514>>552849468>>552849691Wildfire is very misleading with its peak swedetard ESL tooltip. It does not spread up to 4 stacks of soulblaze on to each enemy in range, instead 4 stacks is the TOTAL number that gets spread out across all targets, so usually you're just giving 4 dudes 1 stack each.
>>552858619Helldivers spun off into it's own general and they are wackjobs.Space Marine 2 spun off into it's own general and they only come here to be smug and post something new they got and run away when the only engagement they get is pointing out the combat sucks dick in an action game.That's it. COOP games are in a rut at the moment. Every other game for discussion, either from apathy (DRG) or fucking dead/launch DOA.
>>552859564Oh wow. That IS incredibly misleading. Makes me wonder how that tool tip has gone unchanged for 2 years now
>>552859934>Makes me wonder how that tool tip has gone unchanged for 2 years nowThe average player is too retarded to even read how talents work in the first place, and nothing in the game is properly explained anyway. You see the fire spread and assume it works, while the lack of damage numbers or tracking (without using mods) makes you assume it does good damage, when in reality a single DoT stack does close to nothing at all.
>>552859564I hate Swedistan so fucking much it's unreal.
>>552858948I could, but it'll just get buried, won't it? You guys seem pretty content with your one game
>>552860304You ever wonder if everybody else is thinking the exact same thing?
>>552860304>cries bitches moans>makes excuses for his crying, bitching and moaning>continues to cry bitch and moanShut the fuck up.
>>552860683>the way the body hits the ground a second laterheh
>>552860683https://youtu.be/QzUGEY2dkvo?si=h-5eoqD7rD4yFxWshttps://youtu.be/TcnufvBffcY?si=UPuddDDG93kv7jWh
>>552856919Hot>>552860304>>552858619Dumb disingenuous faggot
>>552859564does it really matter? Stacks would pingpong between targets in a horde
>>552734198feel my pain.
>>552858619>this really is just a 40k general.yes, you're better off moving on until decent coop game comes out, most people here newfriends who follow the slop trail
>>552864178AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>552864178I wouldn't be surprised to learn Malice and Heresy have enemies capped at like 200 or something, including poxwalkers. Best advice I can offer is find a really tight choke with spawners on either side, kite and corral them with pushes and bull rush thru.
>>552864178we can do a duo private game if you want
>>552863224It matters a lot, yeah. Especially because the damage scaling of DoT stacks is exponential, and an enemy usually only dies to them when the stacks are well above 4. This means there's a very sharp drop off between "bounces", and the only way to saturate a horde with enough soulblaze for it to matter is so efficient at that that it'll do so with or without wildfire, and you can just spend the point on empyric shock instead.
jungle map when?
>>552866064Probably never. You can see the planet from the Mourningstar hub, shit's a desert.
>>552866182I can imagine there being a bizarre hydroponics jungle sewers thing. Overgrows city streets mixed with nurgle stuff. Could be fun
>>552860304This exact attitude is the reason why people here don't like you, but also why people like you don't talk about other games.Only thing you have or bring with you is snark, and even then you're bitch made
what's the highest sprint speed ranged weapon for zealot? heavy laspistol? I just want it for sprinting.
>>552867157I believe laspistol is the fastest, but combat shotgun is also very fast and the slug variant is only slightly worse than bolt pistol at one-tapping specialists.
>>552867157all the pistol weapons are fine and dandy for sprintingI like the autopistol since it comes with a flashlight and you never know when you're gonna quickplay into a lights out mission
>5800x3d>4070>game still runs at 30 fps during hordes
>>552858619>this really is just a 40k generalAnd that’s a good thing! >>552866064What I would give for a mission or even an entire game set on Catachan…
>>552868143If it makes you feel any better it runs even worse on AMD cards
>>552863224Of course it does not matter. It does not increase stacks above dying enemy's counter. Which means if does not work, period.
>>552857250>build for stupid scenario that shouldn't happen>get your hp chipped because of it so your build doesn't even work in one edge case it's supposed to work
>>552857639>Should i take +1 wound on all my curious on Martydom to get that extra block of healthYes. It's more health, and it's almost the exact amount you recover from revenant.
>>552870657>le building for le failureWhy are you taking damage reduction and toughness nodes? Are you noob?
>deal more damage than everyone else combined>more elite kills than one of these niggers has trash kills>play perfectly up until I make a singular (count: 1) mistake>team suddenly has absolutely zero damage and wipes within barely 30 seconds of me going down (obviously nobody came for the revive, the chorus zealot just stood there spamming light attacks)How do these sub-humans make it to auric anyway?
>>552870916Are you retarded?
>>552858619>/coopg/ is all WH>oh well, guess I'll play other genres, love me cool stories and leveling>/crpgg/ is all WH40k>well, how a bout a historic strategy game, fun to move my lil guys around in battle>/twg/ is all WHF and 40k too soon>fuck vidya games, I'm gonna go play old fashion tabletop games in real life!>/tg/ was literally made for WHfags>gosh darn it, time to find Jesus>can buy literally blesses purity seals in the churchaaaaa warp is overtaking me, screw you Tzeentch!!!!
>>552871157Wait till you get to havoc and only lobbies you get accepted into are full of solo faggot knife niggers who play extremely passively and loop for 40 minutes before every room. And they are on every class so you can't do your job. Zealots who won't have your back, psykers who will refuse to use their staff, veterans who will refuse to use their guns.
>>552871616I don't get those in my havocs because I host my own games and decline obvious retard builds. Works pretty well.I just wish I could have actual fucking team play in aurics, but apparently everyone there is fresh out of damnation and everyone collectively requires a hard carry, so I'm literally the only one doing anything in over half of my matches. It's fucking tiring.
>>552871157Listen man I can only do so much damage with my infantry lasgun guardsman recruit cosplay build
>>552872006Well obviously with havoc being a thing auric has turned into just another stepping stone for anyone who takes team play seriously, there's really no reason to go there anymore outside of fucking around.
>>552871157>How do these sub-humans make it to auric anyway?They like to feel cool and whine on anonymous forums about a bad team.
Bruh
>>552872006I can't relate, havoc is rather easy now and I would have to make my build retarded on purpose to struggle with it. So I rarely feel bad about teammates underperforming, and even if I were to lose, who cares, it happens rarely and I don't lose anything besides like 20 minutes of time.
Do I feel like playing havoc?
>>552873563EU?
>>552873550>auric is rather easy nowsfx
>>552873685Ya
>its a weapon doesnt have a mark with horizontal lights and vertical heavies episode
>>552873465The most unfunny retorts are the ones that are shoehorned like this. It doesn't even relate to what you quoted, you literally could not have tried harder
>>552873979wanna group?
>>552873550Anon I don't give a fuck about losing. That's whatever. The frustrating part is that I was the only player even doing anything, and that everyone else is genuinely too out of their depth to even pretend to cooperate.I play co-op games for the co-op, and Darktide is the most notably uncooperative co-op game I've ever played.
>>552874096no
>>552874019I refuse to use anything that requires combos fuck your shit fatshark I don't enjoy playing fighting games while dodging a mixed horde
>>552874108>I play co-op games for the co-op, and Darktide is the most notably uncooperative co-op game I've ever played.did you get barreled or something?
>>552874096Yeah, I can play a few games, slightly exhausted from work so I wont be playing my sunday best but should be fine FS code 3476146291
>>552874329I'm not talking about that specific game, anon, nor am I talking about active griefing. I'm talking about the phenomenon where, at auric difficulty, the average player is too low skill to even have the mental bandwidth to do anything cooperative, be it help a disabled or downed player without eating shit themselves, doing an objective, or even fucking keeping up and using their ability. This retarded new difficulty progression system has definitely made aurics worse in every way possible by funneling all the tards there.
>>552874136>so miserable she impersonates others
>>552874329nah he's right. The game is built around not co-operating, it's built around 4 people rushing through the map in parallel, rushing for kills so they can proc their passives and whenever any big threat shows up, 1 person just dumps a grenade into it and it's goneHavoc fixes this a LITTLE BIT but the game is still inherently anti-cooperative as fuck even there
>>552874624no
>>552874019>>552874145How is this a problem? Why are you like this? Imagine missing out on good weapons because they disturb your autistic repetition comfort.
regarding the crowbar "special" attack modeit hits twicethey should buff the first hitthat is allthank you
>>552874342>>552874096If I havent played H40 in months will I be unwelcome in lobbies posted ITT or do you guys not care much not able to play right now anyway, just curious
>>552874724Absolute nonsense post with silly takes from a silly billy. Wrong, incorrect, and dare i say: false. Verification? Not required.
>>552874773I shan't use them and haven't used them since VT2I hate autistic shit like light block combo the polearm had in VT2 to deal with hordes so I just used the hammer and unga bungad everything.Don't care if I'm not minmaxing DPS not my problem
>>552871157>I was the first one to go down>it's the teammates' fault!maybe you just suck
>>552874947nta but let's not pretend that it's abnormal to have missions where you absolutely hardcarry a team of shitters, 24/7 unnetting, undogging, uncornering and reviving them and killing 70% of shit on the map, which then immediately falls apart the moment you get netted once because none of them care to get you and then the entire thing is fuckedof course he COULD be one such shitter as you describe but I've had this happen to me
>>552871157If you go full carry from the very start, the team subconsciously leans on your carry. As soon as you die, they become overloaded. But if you once in a while hang back and observe and don't kill things for 30 seconds, it forces teammates to lock in and focus. Then when you die they don't immediately fold.This is just an idea i have in my mind with zero proof, but i think there's truth to it.
>>552874947Pipe down, streetshitter>>552875185That turdskin has never carried a match
>>552875186>if you once in a while hang back and observethen the mission takes 30 minutes because they all have zero DPS and get bogged down standing still at every horde spawn, possibly all of them dying because I'm no longer killing everything.
>>552874897If someone is posting a code, then it's presumed they don't care. I sure as hell don't.When I play with anons. I'm looking to have a fun time, not always a 'smooth' time. But fun nonetheless. Just do your best and enjoy gaming with us
Cooperation will be ours
>>552875321what part of "once in a while" do you not understand? I didn't say AFK the whole round. Just turn on your teammates. It has helped me, it can help you.
>>552871157>>552875186>>552874108my strategy is to pick out the best teammate and focusing on him. Really watch out for him, make sure I'm always in eyeshot so I can get dogs off, help him out, kill shit behind him, just actually co-operate with that guy. This achieves two things>he's very likely to return the favor, look out for me and actually get me if I fuck up somehow >I'm actually playing a co-op game instead of trying to solo hardcarry 3 people which immediately falls apart when I make one mistakeof course the other two people can kinda get fucked with this approach, but thems the breaks
>>552875472this is also a great strategy
>>552875472>my strategy is to pick out the best teammate and focusing on himI do that too, but lately most auric teams have had 3 completely useless dipshits in them. There isn't even a single competent teammate in most of them.Runs that do have one player that feels like they actually belong in auric, tend to be at least somewhat enjoyable. But they've become so fucking rare, man. Especially during normie hours.
>>552875427>Just turn on your teammates.
>>552875663It's a chapter from a book called "How to make the best with what you got".
>>552874916Block or weapon swap canceling a single light swing for horde clear is where I draw the line myself but there's a huge gap between that and "do some mixed combos to get endless loops of strikedowns and cleaving swings" and the halberd is still worth using if you just do that.
>>552875830One action for hordesOne action for heaviesSimple as
>>552874342seal companionship>>552875772sounds like a silly book
>>552866779"you're bitch made" is something I've been called on the Internet now. I'm writing it down, it's unique
Maybe it's a known thing but the shivs mark with the sweeping heavies has a single target heavy strike after its push attack, pretty cool
>>552875415>CheatsI don't play with anons that need crutches.
>>552877472I knew that but I bet many people didn't. We should hold hands to celebrate this
>>552877525Nobody plays with you
>>552877729:(You didn't have to remind me like that...
>>552877729That was too far anon
>>552877729dude
>>552877806>>552877867>>552878147I'm not sorry
>>552870916You sound upset.
calm down ok?
I am now incredibly upset
>>552870916Corruption resist >only helps you when you fucked up and eat a burster hitDR and TDR >allows you to go further stretches without taking damage giving you ultimately more offensive options You could argue that sometimes, you want to eat a burster hit because it's the favorable alternative, but that's a pretty fucken rare thing to happen considering how easy bursters are to never take damage from if you're competent
I take revive speed on all of my curios. I build for my team's failures!
Ogryn with 3x sniper damage reduction curios wows auric goers by taking sniper hits without having his toughness broken
>>552877472A handful of light attacks after the heavy stab kinda look different from the regular ones, too. I wonder if they have different damage profiles.
>>552879709based team player
>>552875472>tfw when you think you're alone getting the battery, but you see bros got your back
>>552879709Revivemaxxing is the zealot meta.
>>552858619Helldivers 2 sucks right now and I don't play DRG. >>552859564also keep in mind that is doesn't spread stacks at all to targets that already have 4 or more stacks lol
>>552879892It's the global meta for me, anon. All my character get it.
>>552879852This never happened
>>552875472Literally me. It's cool to see when they notice you doing it, return the favor and do a quick turn around to make sure you are there. I try to keep an eye out on other players doing the same to me.
What's the point of the long arbites shotgun special ammo? It doesn't seem to kill anything significantly better
This fucking game is unplayable if you don't have a processor with a ddr5 or a 3d cache.
>>552880098It applies brittleness to enemies.
>>552880098It reduces the target's armor for a short time.It also counts as a second ammo pool that is fully restored even by small pickups, so you can be ridiculously ammo efficient.
>>552880098It's free extra ammo
>>552880276How much brittleness does it even apply? Haven't seen any details on that.If it's something like 10% brittleness per 1 shot, it's useless.
>>552880098You reduce the target's armor. But the effect is so weak and lasts too little time that it is better not to use it at all. But I still love this shotgun in combination with Scattershot and Deathspitter.
>>552880098who cares that shotgun sucks never use it always use the duckbill variant
>>552880043I'm sorry you are unloved.
^ha*ok cocksuker
>>552879762>9 curio perk slots>4 relevant damage resist types with diminishing returnsgunner---gunner--???bomber--sniper---bombersniper----flamer---flamerWhat do I put in the last slot?
>>552880673go away tanner, your psykanium ass doesn't know how well shit works
>>55288056325%, doesn't stack with itself. Vaguely enough to be relevant against monsters. You shouldn't be shooting carapace anyway, so it's pointless against that.>it's uselessThe brittleness is, doubling the effectiveness of small ammo pickups isn't.
>>552880793Corruption resistance.
>>552880793>What do I put in the last slot?Revive speed.
>>552880876>25% brittleness on 1 shotThat's pretty good.Does it stack with other sources? Like bolter has shattering impact which should be able to apply up to 40% britteleness on target.If you use the shotgun special does it become 65% brit?
>>552880793Is 5% hp enough to bring your staminamaxxing scummer past 100hp?
>>552881186The 25% brittleness IS the special.It should stack with all other sources, but you can't exactly pull a bolter out of your ass when you have a shotgun with you, now can you?If you want to meme it, it does stack with the 10% rending in Execution Order, and 20% ranged rending on crit, letting you punch through 55% armor, and making it somewhat viable against crushers. But you do need to crit for that to happen. I don't suggest you do that, but I'm not your dad, you have fun however you like.
>>552881186Yes.
>>552881387I was talking about the bolter in that if someone else in the team has it.Most havoc teams use the bolter on either vet or zealot, and they only need to shoot 4 times to apply maximum brit from their own gun.
>>552843315I hate being beholden to pickups so I only ever use the cooldown option instead if it's available on a class
>>552881681>Most havoc teams use the bolter on either vet or zealot,>Shattering Impact in havocWhat the fuck am I reading? Nobody does that in 40, at least. Is this some kind of 20-30 meta, and yet another reason why they're stuck there?
>>552881568Oh shit, I was roight. That's pretty neat.Well I might run this shotgun with my arby in havoc then.
>>552881820Should also stack with the flamer's 20% and the scum's 37.5% purple.
>>552881791people beat h40 with all sorts of nonsense these daysit's a freak show
>>552858619Not our fault the other coop games failed. KF3 was fun for like 1 week. SM2 and HD2 left the chat. So here we are.
>>552857250why would you ever willingly put damage number in a horde game. how are you supposed to see anything in that clusterfuck
>>552880793Bomber for tox gas, gives you an extra tick to get out of it before your toughness is broken.
>>552882523
>>552881791>meta slave doesn't knowhardstuck
>>552882809this is how every modded UI looks like. Unbearable, but whatever floats your boat i guess.
>>552882928Yeah hardstuck in 40 because I never drop.
>>552882523Analysis.>how are you supposed to see anything in that clusterfuckUse a bigger screen.
Could L4D1/2 have benefited from a third tier of weapons? I know the game is praised for its simplicity but sometimes I feel it needed just a tiny bit more. With a third tier you could spread out the tier "upgrades" in a campaign more so that you don't instantly find the "best in slot" upgrade after tier 1 weapons.
Felinids soon! Trust the plan anyons!>:3c
>>552883660Felinids, just a week away!
>>552883660Freak.
>>552883830That's nyot nice...
>>552883660We already have felonids
playing with my friend who started new made me encounter many a level 30 skinwalkers that can't even fight a couple ragers, shit is crazy down in damnation and auric
are felinids actually just catgirls or what like are they furry or just cat ears and a tail idk what they actually look like
>>552884012Never shown or even described by james workshop, ever.
Thanks for the games, we got a good 40 clear this timeShame the next map was fucking magistratum rotten armor, what a slog of a combo
>>552884005Thats what I've been saying the past few days while I've been leveling vet. I was in a heresy mission and I saw someone magdumping an autogun into the horde and going down twice in a row before leaving the match, before the first checkpoint. Not bothering to try using their melee or block, just standing there wildly shooting hoping to survive within the first 3 minutes of the match.
Yeah the duckbill is better but the choke version sniping dudes and the special sound are just to good
>>552884012We don’t know. They could very well look like traditional anime cat girls or furries.>>552882809I look like this.
>>552876882it’s a zoomie thing btw
>>552884005Veteran is literally me.
>>552876882>>552885003It's old
>>552885003I've been seeing people call eachother bitchmade in 2011, why would you think it's a zoomie thing
>>552885229>it's impossible for under 18s to swear
>>552885324why are you pretending to misunderstand?
>>552877729>>552879310>>552879484>>552880780>>552880043true i like where this is going
I keep thinking I should download real level or the scoreboard mod so I can see what I'm doing vs others and try to improve but I know one of two things will happen.1. I will get angry at myself for every little mistake like some MMO guy raging at a 99 parse on a boss instead of a perfect 100.and/or2. I will start to resent my team all the time and be a dick.
>>552885431If you don't go down (including in situations where your team is struggling) then you're doing fine. If you want to hyper optimize and get as good as possible though, get a scoreboard mod.
>>552885431I got them and I did neither of these things. Just have a modicum of self control, just don't take the game so seriously, is that so hard to do?
>>552884467Thank you for the FREE carry to 40, anons! I promise I'll find a way to actually contribute in the future when 999 rotten crushers roll up in a tight hallway
any latest rat news´ ?
>>552885901
>>552886396that not even a rat doofus
>>552885431nah it's never that bad unless you are a complete parse tranny.Just imagine if the game was actually popular enough to warrant TideLogs, the horror.
THE CROWBAR SUCKS MONKEY-FUCK
I fucking HATE having to download, unzip, and troubleshoot mods that should just be part of the vanilla game every major patch and then some>team ammo counters>responsive weapon swap>green circles>tidier killfeed>true level>steam account names>inspectThese were all in Vermintide just out of the box why aren't they in Darktide for FUCKS sake
>>552886929>install vortex mod manager>it's only a couple clicks>everything is neatly organized>create shortcut to %appdata%\Fatshark\Darktide\console_logs>check console logs in case something errors or crashes>barely takes a couple minutesModding really doesn't have that much friction to it if you know what you're doing. As much as vortex sucks cock for Bethesda games, it's useful for Darktide.
>>552887142>if you know what you're doingYou don't, the gears were greased for you by people who actually know what they're doing.
>>552887142Every modbeast ever claims this shit after they spent a work week or longer on their Skyrim ass pet project
>>552887142>mod manager cause you're too retarded to unzip an archive and you dont understand how folders workZoomers are crazy
>>552887365There's a non-zero chance you're alive right now because people before you figured out shit like penicillin that your brainlet ass would never have even thought of.And yes, I do know what I'm doing. I'm sitting on over 10k lines of darktide mod code I've written myself.>>552887541>having a mod manager conveniently manage files for you with inbuilt versioning for easy rollbacks is somehow badIt's impressive just how retarded you are
>>552886929>team ammo countersfor what autistic purpose? if someone is in the red, give them the ammo. It's not hard. also tidier killfeed is anti soul>Anon fucked Crusher>Anon fucked Crusher>Anon fucked Crusher>Anon fucked Crusheris way more satisfying than>Anon fucked Crusher x4
>play ogryn for ages>play another class after a while>game feels claustrophobic as fuck 24/7 because I dont have a tall as fuck viewpoint anymorecrazy
>>552885143dw you get a pass cutie
>>552887876Do not fuck crushers, anon.
>>552887940Now play the dwarf in vermintide.
>>552888018mind your own business pal
>>552887876>Anon has fucked Shotgunner>Anon has fucked Shotgunner x4>Anon has fucked Shotgunner x10>Anon has fucked Shotgunner x18I can't easily see just how hard I'm raping them if the entire top left of my screen is just constant spam.
>>552888114God damn it, stop fucking the nurgle cultists.
>>552887876Anon if someone is in the red it's way too late, they've already spent time having literally no ammo. This is why the counter is good, the colours represent thirds of your ammo reserve and it's just way too fucking imprecise.
>be vet>your ammo is suddenly my responsibilityBest I can do is replenish 1% ammo for every elite and specialist kill every 5 seconds, bud. Drop the ammo crate.
how does krak do against boss shields, or should i be dropping it when the shield breaks to go health damage?
>>552890254Complete waste of a krak, just hit them or wait for someone else to shield break.
>>552890254Basically nothing, and the captains don't have much health behind the shield either so it's not super helpful either way compared to just bonking
>>552890372>>552890617got it, was wondering if it would be helpful on train if the group was cutting it close on time to get to the cogitators in the front.
>>552890254Most ranged and blitz options suck against captains and lieutenants, it's best to just dogpile them with melees. The captain shield in particular caps your damage per hit at a pretty low amount, so often it's not even worth using heavy attacks. If you really want to delete those enemies try shock maul or chain weapon specials.
>>552890714Not really, the strategy for Rolling Steel is to not get bogged down to begin with, the battery objective is the deciding factor, if you get past that by half time, you've got plenty to deal with the captain, providing someone takes on trash duty.
>>552887743>hmm yes this moldy loaf of bread looks appetizing>and milk from a diseased cow? Aww you shouldn't havedisgusting weirdos
The ability UI sucks. Sometimes you just can't tell if it's off cooldown or it has 2 seconds left in the thick of it. And the fact you need a mod to fix it is diabolical
>>552891105Brown
>>552885229>>552885160at the very least zoomies say it frequently and it’s seen a massive surge in use in recent years
>>552889393It's a scale so i count orange to be "in the red". But fine, let's say orange. But most games don't have people go past yellow. It's a complete non-issue. The colors are more than good enough.
>>552891216Another thing that's better in Vermintide!
>>552891216i don't understand how you can't tell but you're not the first person to complain so clearly it's a common illness and fatshark SHOULD do more to accommodate people with eye problems
>>552891449Nah it's trash game design. It's among the first things everybody fixes as soon as they figure out modding.
>>552891684It's literally good design, you just autistically prefer numbers and that's okay. I'm not a scientist and I understand it perfectly fine.
>>552880673duckbill is redundant with the powerful close range kit arbites has. other variant at least gives you long range answers when your team isn't doing anything about the 4 snipers and toxbombers and you can take out snipers through crushers/monstrosities so you don't even have to change positions to deal with them
>>552891216Mods don't even fix itIt really can show that your ability is ready, then after 2 seconds your ability becomes ready for realThe game is broken
>queue into heresy because it's all anyone's doing at this time>psyker, true level of 110, two bots>he leaves a few minutes laterFaggot.
>Less information available to players is a good thing, actually
>>552891982If you purely care about long range then use bolt pistol
>>552857639I like 3 wound. It gives you more health to sit at on 5 stacks compared to 2 wound + health. You won't have to dick around lowering your health in fire somewhere again if you pop UD+HR. And with all the damage resist and toughness damage resist you stack along side the amount of toughness regen you get on new Zealot, you really don't need to do 2 wounds plus a toughness curio. That's in Aurics though. I haven't touched Havoc in ages. Maybe things are different there.
>>552886396That is very much a rat genius >>552888114That’s so cool. That’s so hot and cool
why does literally every single ranged hivescum take every ammo pickup on the map? what is their brain damage
>relic blade is fun>but knoife go zoom
>>552891982Blasting out two or three shots with the duckbill lets you shred through dense packs of ranged elites way faster than any other option you have, it's not that you can't do that in other ways but this leaves much less time for them to cause chip damage to you and others, especially when you open up with the shock round.If you care more about having an option for sniping I'd sooner use the stub revolver or bolt pistol than the other exe shotgun mark.
>>552892882I hate how weak knife felt against hordes when I tried it years ago and therefore never used it. But I do love Shiv Scum.
>>552892986The other exe shotgun mark does well with boss damage though, so there is benefit to taking it over those
>>552893147Have you tried both marks? Mk6 is pretty okay at hordes.
>>552893964I don't even remember, but at this point, if I want to play a fast knife guy, I'll just hop on my Scum.
>>552892748>ammo icon pops up>i take itThat's as far as it goes in their head
>>552874034I don't know what you're talking about. You're talking about subhumans, and I'm talking about the same thing. If you like to whine about teams so much, just go to havok and make your own team. Unless, of course, someone wants to play with a subhuman like you.
Imagine if a veteran could overload a lasgun battery and throw it at enemies like a bomb.
>>552894482you're obnoxious man just stfu
>>552895267who is this nigger and why do i see him everywhere
>>552895267Could easily be the special action on any of the lasguns we have now.
Imagine if there was only one type of lasgun and you used the special to switch between rapid fire recon mode, heavy helbore charge mode, or standard infantry mode.
>>552895267borderlands tediore weapons
>>552895774Dumb because I like me torch and bayonet.
>>552895461Considering that they have already filled the veteran's pockets with grenades, we are unlikely to see anything like this.
>>552895774Imagine if there were weapon customization instead of marks.
Imagine if helbore had a fire system that wasnt nigger aids to use
>>552896156Hadron would recite the canticle of testicularum torsionatus on him even if he did.
Faggots, why do they make modern weapon designs just for art, and in the game we see shit from plastic models of the 90s.
>>552896714It's easier to draw a flat image than render something that detailed in 3d and have it look good.
>>552896714*puts a picatinny rail on the boltgun*
>>552896714Shame that the heavy lasguns are also too hard to...They uhTheyhm...
>>552897573They get in the way of backpack cosmetics, that's all there is to it.
I feel like what an anon was saying last thread is true, which is that you're not taught to play the game well as Ogryn because you can kind of just faceroll until facerolling doesn't work anymore. I've tried the four initial classes but only put considerable time into Ogryn; around level 110. Maybe it's made worse by the fact that I haven't played in a while or that I'm playing with randoms these days, but now I'm starting to feel the wall as I try harder content. At some point I have to acknowledge the possibility that I'm just not playing well.
>>552898025It should be easy, the ogryn is really good at creating space, players who don't do that inevitably eat shit because they keep letting chip damage get through. More importantly, you have to not be in the way of your shooters so they can do their job.
Which arbites shield do you like more? The combos on the VI are pretty good but it feels like the shield bash heavy kinda doesnt do any damage whatsoever which fucks with the horde clear
>>552897739Sad but true.
>>552896697She wouldn’t do that that’s inhumane>>552894887*burns it*
>>552897573They are too heavy, it's in the name.
>>552892882Why is she talking like that and making that face? I’m erect now
ogryn sucks
>>552899547Everything sucks when you're the one playing it
>>552899821i suck cock
>>552898772Mk6 is better imo, the horde clear combo for it, is H1->L2. It's the horizontal shield bash into the light attack with the mace.The mk6 has enough cleave and impact with the combo to mulch hordes.I also like the mk6 more since the H2 is a vertical strike down with the mace which does good weakspot and carapace damage.
>>552900029Stop that right now. What would your mother think?
>>552733696Is Griffin Foot Bounty Hunter pure memes? I don't understand the appeal/ how it even works. You're giving up being one of the best, well-rounded, special snipers in favor of trashy shoutguns that require like 5 shots to the head to kill a Stormvermin.
>>552900198nigga you take blessed combat so melee kills reset your free crit, chop head off rat, unload crit shotgun, rinse and repeat
>>552761891Don’t forget that one DAoT ship that had a black hole gun as its primary weapon and used a fucking Time Machine just to fix its aim if it missed instead of simply firing again.If they hadn’t been so uninformed & unprepared for warp bullshit and psykers, DAoT humanity would’ve been effectively unstoppable.
>Ascension Riser 31 elevator finale>easily covering one side with Inferno Staff>HIVECUMMER with ADHD keeps running to my side to shoot stuff with his faggot uzis>getting flanked and hit from behind >switch sides>HIVECUMMER with ADHD switches to my side>get flanked againI fucking hate this shit.
>>552900198You literally erase hordes with it. And you I think oneshot stormvermin with the crit at close range.
>>552899547he's a big guy
>>552900883
>>552894887mine give
>>552900648Is this your first experience with a green circle chaser or something?
>>552899482>being this newyou're not a baby. not even a fetus. you're a zygote.
>2H psyker's sword constantly resets soul charge or gives sound signal before you get charges >Reaper shoots in the other direction from you but hits you>Sound is just missing>ENEMIES APPEAR IN FRONT OF YOUR FACEThis game is literally unplayable.
What's a "Warp-Attack?"
>>552901780I forgot to add that power wave from a 2H sword does not regularly cause damage to half of the enemies it hits.
Guard cosmetics for Hcum
>>552901904Anything a psyker does that isn't a bullet or a blade. So staff attacks, empowered force sword attacks, brain burst, venting shriek, soulblaze (psyker burn).
>>552901904Any attak with warp damage. Staffs, blitz, soulfire.
Post your rare rats.
Why are Thunderhammer lights so fucking dogshit?It's literally the same weapon as 2h hammer in VT2 and 1 why change it?
>>552901904I heard it was anything that gains peril
>>552901780>>552902002Are you talking about the Blaze Force Sword? What's going on with it?
>>552902467Here it is. Extremely rare. Only has a 0.01% chance of being posted.
>>552902002works on my machine!
>>552902467how do I now it's rare
>>552902467
>>552902642Relic from launch where they wanted it to be a big boss bonk weapon with bad horde clear.
there was literally nothing I could do
>soloclutch>clear everything so there isn't like a massive ufcking wave following me or something>revive teammates successfully>they instantly die again>they leave before I can res themfucking gay man I just want to play
>>552901230this kind of mosaic sucks because it just color changes the micro images to match the macro image. it defeats the purpose
>>552903904What happened here?
>>552902690https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/force-greatsword-prediction-is-too-generous/107935These assholes are not able to synchronize this sword with the client and server.Also, try to record your gameplay and see how the enemies react to being hit by a wave from sword, you will be surprised, the game does not register some of the hits.
>>552904815Is this with regards to the special attack it has? DESU I hardly use it because it feels so ass to use.
>>552904815>>552905035NTA but yes. The special is really inconsistent. I haven't really used it enough or paid enough attention to have any solid grasp on what is going on, but I have indeed seen the bar go up and down while fighting, and it's also sometimes completely eaten the entire bar without firing the projectile at all (no I did not swap prematurely), no damage no visual no nothing.
>>552904803got hit from a blind spot form behind
>>552903904That's why you use invicibility on your charge chuddy
>>552904803Either a glitch or he simply got hit from behind. I'm gonna bet on the latter.
>"let's remove the scoreboard because we don't want players to chase kills">modder instantly makes a scoreboard with extreme gamified score + high dopamine design that highlights every single bit of what you're the best at >game meta shifts more and more towards everyone just constantly chasing yellow numbers as a result>game spams more and more enemies to feed into the meta >now, 3 years later, the game is completely unrecognizable from what it was at launch, the entire game just exists to feed peoples ego when they see 100 special kills on the scoreboard, or when they get 3m damage on havoc >all this when they could've just made a subtle understated scoreboard that doesn't give people ego issues Retards
>>552904815>see how the enemies react to being hit by a wave from sword, you will be surprised, the game does not register some of the hits.I thought I was just going insane or there was a cap on how many enemies it could hit. It still fucks, but there's alot of enemies that should be hit that don't get hit.
>>552905524I don't use the scoreboard plugin and never will as I am not trans, but I kind of view how bad it makes people play as a form of difficulty in the same way spawning specials or mission modifiers are.
>>552905524>or when they get 3m damage on havocThis is usually a bad sign, because it means the mission took too long and you used too many DoTs instead of deleting (most likely regenerating) threats instantaneously.Getting higher damage numbers than ~2m on a single player isn't exactly desirable.Yes, I have seen 5 million damage psykers, but that was in a 50+ mission slog with a literal deadweight vet so regenerating rotten armor was an easy damage score farm.
Does anyone else have that bug with Shredder Autopistol masteries?
>>552894887why it have cum potion ?
>>552905328>and it's also sometimes completely eaten the entire bar without firing the projectile at allI must be thinking of the wrong weapon because I have no idea what projectile or bar you're talking about.
>>552903904this is why you block while charging buddy
>>552902467this is me ratpostin while coopg cowers
>>552860683
>>552907129that not a rat
>>552902673It would be very weird if the duelling sword parry counted as a warp attack.
Now that the blight has cleared, how do you feel about Hive Scum?
>>552864178i managed this by accident when someone was trying to get to extract shuttle but was getting swarmed, went to pick him up and unlocked it
>>552907743Fun but only one keystone worth a fuck is kind of boring
>>552907743desperado is cool, rampage is discount melee psyker, stim pack is cool, class needs slight buffs
>>552907743Can't figure out a reason for it to exist other than supplanting gun psyker as the 'i want to shoot trash mobs with a gun' classMaybe crate juggler could be a decent flex 4th pick
>>552905524>with extreme gamified score + high dopamine designAre you talking about the original scoreboard mod with the retarded "team score, defense score, etc."? Yeah that shit was retarded.>game meta shifts more and more towards everyone just constantly chasing yellow numbers as a resultChasing kills is an inevitability because that's where the fun is. Scoreboard doesn't affect this outside of the most mindbroken parsetrannies that NEED to fill every millisecond with """optimal""" play so they're always minmaxing damage uptime. Those people are indeed retarded, but they're also not that common. >all this when they could've just made a subtle understated scoreboard that doesn't give people ego issues Any scoreboard with a damage number would've caused these people to ape out. At that point, give the rest of us the detailed information since that's actually useful instead of just "oh wow you did a gorillion damage, anon.">game spams more and more enemiesThis is a result of Fatshit's inability to balance their game properly. They made players more and more powerful, and they had to respond by either nerfing the players directly or buffing the enemies. They chose the latter route.
>>552905524Yes, of course, fatshark's game design and balance decisions were based on the scoreboard mod. Indubitably.
>>552907743Dethroned the zealot as my favorite.
>>552905524>Blaming modders for the current ADHD caffeine addicted zoomer gameplaySwedish fuck kys
>>552905524Scoreboards are important because it's good to know how well you are doing as a means of improving. Had someone in my auric who died 4 times who still thought he had the most damage because he was 'all in on glass cannon crazy mode'I honestly can't reason why anyone would think hiding information from the player is a good idea just as a rule of thumb - this is isn't a story-based roleplaying game where your choices have consequences, it's a fucking horde shooter.
>>552908268based on how people play, which scoreboard mod helped shapedon't be a dishonest nigger pretending you don't understand what is meant
>>552909345Meds.
>>552909345>people are playing like ADHD morons and throwing themselves into enemies in this horde shooter>FUCKING SCOREBOARD REEEEEEEElolThere's a very minor portion of the population for which scoreboard may have exacerbated an already present issue. But for the most part, this is a consequence of the style of game we're playing and Fatshark's own decision making. The scoreboard boogeyman didn't create these issues.
scoreboard or no scoreboard I will continue to play like a retard in your games. I do not care
Only mods I ever downloaded where the weapon customization mod and numeric UI. I then deleted them, didn't find any use in them.
>>552907443you're not a rat
>>552910410NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>quickplay>wishing well>don't really know what to do>teammates don't know either>wipe every time
>>552910839What do you mean you don't know what to do?! It's a corridor with enemies coming at you???
>>552910839>the first event on Clandestium GlorianaSTOP STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP YOU NIGGERSIT GOES LEFT TO RIGHTTHREE ROWSJUST FOLLOW THE LIGHTSGOD
>>552911245Instructions unclear, got shot to death by 35 gunners.
>>552911245>STOP STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP YOU NIGGERSIts the same shit as the train supply mission where you need to wait for extraction, everyone tries to stand by the med station despite being told its fucking sniper bait. I ping the corner by the rail cars that block two sides and funnels enemies in three ways for easy horde clear, but no everyone wants to stand in the open and get downed by the 3 snipers that spawn.
>join in mission>You have failed the Emperor
>>552912075Don't worry it's not canon.
>>552911245I genuinely have no idea what that puzzle even wants>activate button>endless heretics to deal with>one canister turns red and I am asked to prevent it from overloading>turn on the spot and sprint towards the canister 20 meters away>start reinserting it immediately>it overloads before I can finish the task>rannick calls me incompetent (I love him)>press start button again>repeat a few times>eventually it doesn't overload and puzzle completes
>>552912459>KA CHUNK>canister lights up>may or may not require you to press e on it>if you take too much time you have to go press the button to resume the process>KA CHUNK>next canister lights up>repeat
>it's a clear the ice from the gears on the foundryplex episode>one retard just keeps pushing the buttonShoe Size IQ, man.
>>552913076If not want me press why can press
>silo cluster>refinery delta 17>chasm logistratum
Just clutched and rescued my entire team. :)
>>552912964Yeah but it's almost always so fast to overload that it doesn't matter how hard you try, you just have to restart itBe it because there are enemies currently anywhere within striking distance or because you just physically can't make it fast enough even if you're close to it and free to move and activate>>552913076I blame the button for not giving proper feedback, that shit is vital to design
>>552913875Nice.
>>552913936If only there were giant objective markers telling you about the gears that are covered in ice.
>>552913936You have to stand next to the lit up canister.
>magdump a bolter mag into a crowd>get the penance for killing 8 guys with the last shot of your magok i guess
>>552913936I find it strange, downright enigmatic even, how havoc 40 groups often finish the entire Clandestium battery section without letting a single one short circuit.>battery goes kaput>zealot instantly makes a run for it>other guy instantly makes a run for it>chorus>thing gets shoved back in without timing outMeanwhile in auric and below, retards are fighting and dying in separate corners of the map and would take 30+ minutes to complete the mission without someone doing all the objectives for them.
>>552913478excise vault
>>552910410DELETE THIS
>>552914269Wait, those are actually timed? I assumed you had to do it and then go hit the switch by design. If you go to the thing fast enough you don't have to run back up to the switch?
>>552912459Not gonna lie I thought that shit was just a timed stand your ground even I'm just learning this shit now.t. 500 hours in the game
>>552914534Yeah if you make a run for it, you can just shove it in. The timing is somewhat unforgiving, but it's absolutely doable if you have either stun immunity or someone watching your back.You just never have anyone watching your back in quickplay, and can't afford to stop dealing damage for even 2 seconds because you're often the only one fucking doing anything. And then obviously the instant you look at a button, 3 mutants, flamethrowers and bombers instantly come for your ass.
Massive snowstorm in Europe, wonder how many months that will delay everything in Darktide by
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4EVwmga
>>552914815Yeah fucking duh obviously.
>>552914815if I go down at all I leave
>>552914880They'll never do it because of shitty servers and shamefully low online.
>>552914815Leavers should be punished but a proper "let a bot take over while I go afk for a second" button should be implemented like L4D did 20 years ago.If someone knocks at the door I have a choice between just saying "brb" standing still and dying, forcing my team to stand around me and possibly wipe or leaving and letting a bot take over.
>>552915052Nigger, just shout to your mom to open the door.
>>552914447with rituals
>netted on the ground next to a rail (hardly any enemies nearby fortunately)>all three teammates around me about to get me up>poxburster climbs over rail, falls over>everyone backs away instead of getting me up>it slowly stands up, takes like 5 seconds for it to stand>nobody pushes it or does anything, they just wait>it explodes on me, downing me>they come over to pick me up>another one comes over the rail and does the exact same thing>they all back up and wait again
>>552915724The divine comedy.
>>552915724if only you had a microphone
Bolter > Plasma
>>552813392>>552817124welcum to /v/
>>552916365>Takes 20 seconds to swap weapons
>>552914078So it is just set up in a way that makes the optimal solution to let it fail and then reactivate it on like, damnation or higher difficulties? And here I thought I was doing something wrong because the mission overseers keep talking about preventing the overloads and insulting me for not doing so.>>552914021Consider it from the perspective of an idiot (or, if you're more compassionate, someone who hasn't played the mission enough to have to figure it out yet)>button prompts you to press it endlessly, giving no feedback at all on its own>don't want to get stripped naked by poxwalkers so constantly trying to keep an eye on enemies, even if a teammate is holding them off>since the old objective markers for smashing ice dissapear once their doors close, it seems like they've been dealt with>and you have one or two teammates running around that thing so they must be the ones making them disappearThe biggest learning obstacle in this game is definitely also experienced players doing the objective quickly and efficiently on their own, because it's impossible for them to figure anything out under those circumstances. Ideally a new player would need to have the space and time to press the button and test out what it does, find all the properties of the puzzle, and through that process learn how it works.But in the way DT is currently set up, and the way its community plays, as soon as a puzzle goes beyond "interact with the highlighted thing to win" will make players take way longer than they would need to to figure it out. You've probably seen the same with the laranax phage tree puzzle.
>>552912459>it overloads before I can finish the taskI'm almost positive that it's either bugged or Fatshark just never test played it
>>552916518>phage tree puzzles>watching some dude just sit there for multiple minutes>just clicking away at the puzzle>they finally get it>Hadron: YOU FUMBLING BUFFOON DID YOU JUST PRESS RANDOM SHIT UNTIL IT WORKED??? Well. It is working.>mfw
>>552916639They definitely didn't test it on high difficulties. It is probably my least favorite map
>>552912459>turn on the spot and sprint towards the canister 20 meters awayTHATS THE FUCKING PROBLEMIT GOES LEFT TO RIGHTJUST FUCKING FOLLOW IT AS IT GOES SO YOU DONT HAVE TO CHASE IT FROM 20 METERS AWAY>>552916639>>552913936IT HAS PLENTY OF TIME AS LONG AS YOU'RE NEAR IT WHEN IT GOES OFF AND NOT SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE FUCKING SMIGGING OR PLAYING TEAM DEATHMATCH
Why are my teams so slow?Why do they feel the need to clear out every horde before moving forward?
>>552916869I wish they explained the mini games better. Hell add each one to the tutorial and possibly the meat grinder so that people can see what they are
>>552917687They aren't exactly unintuitive, the worst offender is probably the red white circles. Just to fuck with people they should have a pong game.
>>552914815Why the fuck would I want leavers to be punished? I want people to leave.If you go down in the first 5 minutes and fuck off to open up the spot to a better player, that is a good thing. Obviously not true for Havoc but I've done 100+ games of it and I've NEVER seen anyone leave on purpose.>>552916869In fairness I cheat to know where the correct button is and she still says it even then, it's just a voiceline man>>552917563A too-large minority of the DT playerbase are roleplayers
A typing of the dead style console hacking minigame would be kinda sick but we can't have that because consoles.
I wanna do Havocs for the cosmetics but dont know dick about them.What's the (+4) mean in the finder?Also why the fuck is it a retarded party finder instead of just normal queue?
>>552918104Roleplayers should want to hurry, it's more thematically appropriate to be on the move than to play Dynasty Warriors.
>>552918445but i have to purge le heresy... for le emperor...
>>552918271>+4You got more Havoc ranks for winning a Havoc well above your current rank (please don't try and force it, do Havocs 10-20 first)>Also why the fuck is it a retarded party finder instead of just normal queue?Havoc is the tryhard mode which means meaningfully selecting which ones you want to do (avoiding bad mods), preparing a proper team composition, and gatekeeping low ranks with bootleg builds. All of this requires a lobby instead of random matchmaking to work
>>552917402I've definitely not noticed it moving in a predictable pattern because of how many enemies there ususally are to worry about, thanks. I don't know if I've ever run the mission below damnation difficulty honestly, and that's definitely one of those things that gets filtered out of your perception if you don't already know what to look for when there is anything else to keep an eye out for.Considering the amount of enemies that usually assault the area though, it seems like a tough ask to chase the lightning around while also dealing with them considering how many gunners and snipers could target you at once, and it's all for nothing if more than a pair of enemies force you to deal with them just as the overload starts. Are you sure it's not a good safety for time trade to let it fail and restart while hunkering on top of and around the control panel, where you can take cover and force the enemy to funnel? Or is there an extra time loss other than the very quick overload expiration timer and reactivation time?
>throneside>have to get the POWERCELLs from below and bring them up to the bridge>always at least 1, usually 2 or all teammates stay up on the bridge and just die over and overjust... move towards the objective markers slightly at least
>>552914815No. But only because Fatshark can't and will not be able to create a proper system that doesn't fuck over people for no reason.Also largely it's not a big deal anyway.Oh wow, some dipshit who got dogged/netted and left in a nano second of it happening? Who cares, I'll keep playing anyway and that deadweight will get replaced by someone else soon anyway.
>>552911245>STOP STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP YOU NIGGERS>IT GOES LEFT TO RIGHT>THREE ROWS>JUST FOLLOW THE LIGHTS>GODIt does that? The fuck?This feels like that one time when some anon here told me that on the phage tree puzzle in hab dreyko you need to look for white circles. I used to just randomly try every node autistically until it clicked and finished.>t. 2000 hours in the game btw.
I made a quick OC for the next bread but I'm clearly not inspired
>>552917563>Why are my teams so slow?Because there are still enemies to kill, they're not ready to move on yet. Oh look, more enemies, better clear them out!
they made catachan cosmetics yet?
ded general
>>552905524Holy fucking cringe why are you blaming modders for fatsharks dumb decisions? They have nothing to do with this shit and no amount of fanfiction is going to change that.
>>552917964>>552916869>>552916518i will be the first to admit I still don’t really understand the phage tree circle puzzle myself (someone explained but I forgot)
>>552901685I knows it’s chaos Chan or whatever but I wasn’t aware she talked like that… it’s weird… but funny…
>>552924593>>552917964Isn't that the point? It's supposed to be tech priest shit that the average imperium retard can't comprehend so he just presses random shit that kind of seems appropriate
>>552924396>>552924396>>552924396>>552924396New bread
>>552900525it didn’t actually time travel, what happened was that the black hole fired by it missed because its target knew where it was going to hit and started dodging before it was fired, but there was a secondary effect spread 100 kilometers from the hole, and telefragged the Eldar ship's material into itself. The ship itself survived, but still died because of bad weather and other ships present. Still impressive though and the ship in question has a lot more advanced and powerful technology with it besides that. DAoT era humanity could have have been top dog in the current era, up until the Necrons and stuff start waking up in sufficient numbers at least.. If the Aeldari ever return to the height of their power they would also lose pretty badly against them. We have reason to believe they were on the cusp of mastering Warp travel and psyker shenanigans as well before everything went haywire.
>>552918265>it opens a keyboard window>you have to select each letter by moving the cursor with the arrow keys>getting hit doesn't take you out of the minigame but it moves the cursor randomly
>>552912459>>552912964>>552913936>>552914534>>552914734>>552916518The buttons light up in this order (dont know if I got the exact number right but this is the pattern)Start at 1, the moment the button you are standing next to lights up and you dont have to press e on it move to the next number.Going from one row to the next is tricky and it might be best to just have another person stand ready at the start of the next row.
>>552930127Dude I just want to kill heretics not play a fucking WoW raid. What is this shit
>>552930260It's easy, just try it mang
>>55287133640GODS win again!!!’
>>552883606Kek
