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>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

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>Thread Question
How do you feel about sudden protagonist change in crpgs?
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>thread question
Name one game.
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>>552908547
>How do you feel about sudden protagonist change in crpgs?
Has this even happened? Or is this just about BG3.
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>>552908547
>How do you feel about sudden protagonist change in crpgs?

no modern dev will be comfortable with taking such a huge risk

CRPGs as a genre died once because it got too stale
Unless modern Dev's take such risks the genre will die again
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>>552908862
it happens in vagrus
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>>552908862
Commander Shepard turned into Sheploo
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>>552908821
>>552908862
It can happen in The Banner Saga
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>>552908821
>>552908862
dragon age awakening
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Does my eagle really need a second cyborg head
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>>552909569
Expac though and it makes so much more sense if you're playing HoF instead of some who.
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>>552909890
HoF dies in DAO though.
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>>552909982
Not in my dollhouse.
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>>552908547
>How do you feel about sudden protagonist change in crpgs?
I hate it
It's only acceptable in sequels
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>>552909569
Hardly sudden. You know you're gonna die if you refuse Morrigan's offer
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>>552909661
Yes. It's the symbol of the Imperium
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>>552911051
Sure it is.
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>>552909661
What, would you prefer chopping off its regular head to put the augmetics on?
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>>552912220
wait wat
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Is Argenta's Shadow of Death any good?
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>>552912220
That's not an eagle, that's a vulture
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>>552912220
Tzeenchfags are going to seethe so hard when the Emperor wakes up and just subsumes their god.
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who else is nhigh af right now? also i completely forgot about this guy, will my party need two rangers might be a little to much overlap.
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nvm i get to build him however i want so im hard specing him into melee
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>>552912863
Not really.
It's just 5% more damage at a point in the game where she can already 1v40 turn 1.
The power armor is waaaaay better.
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>Ranger
>Melee
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very rude of underrail to trick you into thinking its fallout when it's actually just icewind dale without a party
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>>552916687
You could say it's icewind rail
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>>552917772
I still can't believe Ulfar's VA is a woman
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CRPGs for this feel?
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>>552920053
what gooner mod is this
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you suck at compressing files
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>>552920053
I knew you couldn't trust this bastard.
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I wanna smooch her.
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Rogue Trader would be 10 times better as a game if they had committed to focusing on JUST Chaos stuff or JUST Eldar/Dark Eldar stuff or JUST Necron stuff
Trying to cram so much in fucked the game so hard
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>>552920907
Seems like there wasn't anyone with enough overall authority or interest to reign in the three main plot ideas
It kinda became directionless, I mean look how the chaos stuff just fizzled out
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>>552920907
yeah thats a definitive flaw, Commoragh is ultimately a massive time waste in the story, up until that point it was pretty much a "we are dealing with Word Barers" story with the occasional Xenos but suddenly the story halts for a the stupid ball to be used for ultimately nothing of consequence, its a side plot that suddenly halted the main and suddenly come act 4 and 5 everything has to race to the end so we suddenly deal with the edge of daybreak
but then the story doesn't end to cram in Necron stuff, hell i don't mind that much with Surprise Necrons,enough Warham stories have surprise chaos showing up but its just egregious when you also had the Dark Elves taking the stage

its kinda like a GM who can't make up his mind on what he wants and so just crams a bunch of cool shit for spectacle, lord knows thats what i did but at least i eventually knew to just cut the unnecessary stuff, i think you coulda pulled 2/3 but not all three at once
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>>552920907
owlcat seems like eldarboos so too bad
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>>552920053
All of them.
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>>552920907
>'Nids are in
>Dark Eldar is in
>Necron is in
>Orks for some fucking reason, isn't
Where's my Freeboota companion Owlcat.
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>>552920907
I would have cut Chaos completely. We have enough of those fags elsewhere. This is a Rogue Trader game, not a Dark Heresy game.
Of course keep sporadic chaos cults and warp events but don't make it part of the plot.
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>>552922525
>DH won't be about chaos heresy
you just know it
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>>552922525
DE can't hold up the plot that much. Chaos was necessary to try and glue it all together.
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>>552922703
DH seems to be making it more personal from the start
In the Bizzaro Zone at the end, you're being bothered by a daemon that latched onto you in the events that preceeded the alpha, much like the warp dagger in RT
There's the overall investigation of the Tyrant Star but that might matter less than the personal motivation
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why was theodora such a massive heretic
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>>552922947
I just would have made the necron thing more apparent as your goal right from the start.
I mean Calzone, the C'Tan shard, and the Deldar don't actually intersect with the chaos cult at all. The cult is just filler.
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>>552924191
You try running a space protectorate and see how you go
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>>552924191
Everything Theodora did was allowed by the warrant of trade.
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>>552924423
ok, I'm willing to give it a go
when I do start?
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If Owlcat were to do a third 40K CRPG, which do you think would be the most realistic option in character for Owlcat?
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Roleplay_Games_(List)
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>>552924605
Start by doing whatever Heinrix and Argenta tell you to do
Even if they contradict each other
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Why didn't henrix excute argenta for heresy?
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>>552924543
>yeah bro having one of your planetary governors blatantly worship slaanesh is totally chill with the emps bro it falls under the warrant bro
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Here we go again
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>>552924748
You'll be a Space Marine in the next one
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>>552924982
She was doing science experiments primitive
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>>552924748
Imperium Maledictum has the most flexibility as a setting I would say, that would be the one to use.
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>>552924748
If they want to keep the scope smaller like Dark Heresy, then they could do an Imperium Maledictum or Deathwatch game if they only want to focus on SM. Then Wrath & Glory for a big budget wide scope game.
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>>552924982
>planetary governors blatantly worship slaanesh
No proof of this
Vistenza seemed genuinely surprised when you told her what was going on
She's an autist, she was only interested in crop output.
I don't think she was fucking dogs or anything, someone just gave her that dog-fucking book but she didn't read it.
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>>552925064
But my dollies?
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I'm in the end of act 3 of DOS 2 in the Council Academy, and the game is beginning to wear on me at this point. Is it worth going on to the end to say I beat it, because I loved act 1 and thought act 2 was really good as well. Act 3 was fine, but I'm getting a bit burnt out now. I feel like the lore writing was good, and the gameplay and freedom you get is amazing, but the writing in game isn't as interesting as it was in the lorebook.
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>>552926435
Just push forward. You only have some 10 odd hours to go. Act 4 has some neat callback stuff that I think is worth checking out.
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>>552920053
I actually miss those mid 2000s Fallout / Skyrim adult mods
sure most of them were edgy or rapey but someone of them were genuinely well made
like that one legion companion mod
where you get a tomboy legion GF whose father is high ranking legionnaire
since everyone in ceaser's legion is itching to run train on her
he is desperately looking for some good guy to marry her off soon
for a sex mod it was pretty fun and even managed to subvert expectations few times
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Sawyer needs to hurry up and make a new crpg and save this general
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>>552925745
Shes not even your waifu for you to be ignoring all the bad parts about her
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>>552926572
Is act 4 good? People say act 3 isn't great but I enjoyed myself a decent amount. I think just the burnout is setting in.
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>save this general
Thats Solasta 2's job.
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>>552926749
Is it? People barely even talked about the first one...
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>>552926637
Sorry bro. Sawyer and Obsidian both retired from CRPGs.
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>Sawyer
Replaced by Cain as the crpg man at Obsidian.
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>>552925525
Looks like Dark Heresy minus the detective framework. Like a general purpose mudcore 40k rpg
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>>552926676
Good is subjective, but it does have stuff there that completes questlines properly. I think it's worth pushing through despite the burnout.
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Give me some fun dogmatic builds. I find Icono to be too gay.
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>>552927452
>>552927178
I hope you're both lying to me
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Icono was so kino
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>unironically liking sawyers "game design"
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I am a centrist in rt
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>>552928084
They are making shit up. Sawyer is still at Obsidian. But we have no idea what he's been working on since Pentiment. He's said he did not work on Avowed or Outer Worlds 2. He has said that he doesn't do much crpg writing anymore but he still does systems design and would like to do Pillars of Eternity 3.
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>>552928548
>lying
>he doesn't know that GOD Cain is back at Obsidian full time now
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Anyone who thinks Obsidian will make a good game in the future is delusional
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>>552928684
You said replace. More than one person works at a game studio. And Obsidian does more than one game at a time.
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>>552928315
We love Sawyer here.
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>>552928684
According to Cain himself all he is doing is just sitting at board meetings trying to come up with an idea for a new IP
https://youtu.be/7vBUHmSm7vA
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>>552928548
>and would like to do Pillars of Eternity 3.
Calling bull on this. Last I heard he didn't care for it.
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>>552928548
>But we have no idea what he's been working on since Pentiment
He's helping out with TESVI
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>>552928315
Deadfire's combat system is great. The issues are more with the narrative structure and the ship bullshit. And Sawyer has outright admitted the ship stuff was a mistake. Presumably they felt obligated to do it based on crowdfunding promises.
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I WILL CUT THE HEAD OF EVERY SAWYERCEL

DEATH TO SAWYER
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>>552924748
I was disappointed when RT wasn't using the actual existing rulebook rules. But the rulebooks for every 40k ttrpg are all a mess so I get it. It'd be nice if they just cleaned it up and published their own version while abandoning the half dozen existing ones complicating the space like imperium maledictum.
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Tim cain is just making legally distinct Arcanum as his new IP.
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>>552928540
Centrist inbetween dogma and heresy is still heresy.
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sigmar is a better god emperor desu
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>>552929209
Um actually I loved doing three minor sidequests and then watching Eothas do his thing, that was a great main storyline for a campaign
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>>552929517
Idc 40gaylarper
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40k is just star wars for school shooters.
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I started Pillars of Eternity 1 and really liked the lore and setting but got filtered by the vampire boss.
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>>552909982
>ok hero of fereldan it is time to choose
>do you have sex with your goth witch gf and become the only warden to ever slay an archdemon and live
>or do you not do that for some reason and die with your balls undrained
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I unironically had more difficulty with the solasta boss fights on cataclysm than I did with any badlurs gate 3 boss fight (and I went out of my way not to use barrelmancy or any other swen shit)
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>>552929834
>or...send her to drain Alistair's balls
your choice, hero
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>>552928548
No way Microsoft is making pillars 3
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D&D 5E is inherently bad
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>>552929834
Its called heroic sacrifice
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>>552929463
Did he say so? Honestly it may not be a bad idea, he can refine the setting more that way, though hopefully it doesn't get too wooden like Outer Worlds.
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>>552929043
He said in one of his vlogs that someone linked here that he would do it if he got the budget of BG3.
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>>552930332
>No, I have to die. It'd be so fucking cool. They'll write legends about it. I can't fuck my notgoth girlfriend. That'd make too much sense.
This doesn't work with a female warden though since futa potions aren't a thing. Maybe those northerners have it.
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>>552930332
>Fallout 3 ending
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>it if he got the budget of BG3.
obshitian made dogshit for decades and burnt bridges. whined the publishers were holding them back. scammed on kickstarter and released shitty bg knock offs. josh is back to his old tricks about the 'money' instead of publishers this time. what's holding back the projects is excuse man and not a $300 million blank check and " the suits".
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>>552930025
I don't think they are either. But after the success of BG3 he did public say he'd love to make Pillars 3. There are plenty of other MS-owned RPG IPs they could be working on. Shadowrun for example.
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>>552920907
No cumrag and more honda/xenolover would have made the game a lot better.
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>>552929332
They don't really need the tabletop rules anymore. The DH combat is quite interesting and revolves around manipulating enemy location in the initiative list and managing interrupts. It's fine and they don't really need to copy a ttrpg anymore
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>It's fine and they don't really need to copy a ttrpg anymore
Owlcat and owlcat fans egos have gotten out of control. They think they are beyond the properties they are adapting.
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>>552930715
>No bro, it's like the essence of sacrifice and shit. Like I can do this with 0 issues, no problem. But this is your thing. You gotta die to save the world. But if you paid money, I can get some common sense.
Really brave of Todd to do that.
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>>552930545
Fem Wardens make Alistair fuck Morrigan
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>>552931020
I don't disagree with this either, but if they did want to do a ttrpg thing I think they should make their own at this point.
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What can change the nature of CRPGs?
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>>552931226
Have you played the 40k tabletop games? Any of them? They're typically unsuitable for a computer. It's the setting they're adapting, not the crunch.
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>>552931485
>All other options are presumed to be true
>Only one opportunity to lie
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>>552931485
I can never remember what the real answer is
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>>552928548
>Trashfire was 2018
>hasn't worked on a crpg since
>not retired
Are you fucking dumb?
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>>552931654
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>>552931485
money. "mass appeal" is the fucking death knell of creativity
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>>552930751
its really memory holed how obsidian got charity work doing sequels with other peoples game engines and IPs, then turned around to complain, leak, about the people who gave them work

like Bethesda catching shit for obsidian not reaching the metascore bonus requirement, then sawyer goes to journalists on how he's happy to a new vegas for elder scrolls
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>>552931485
None of those are the "official" answer which you find out later on.
The best option there is to gaslight Ravel.
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How to get a good ending for Heinrix?
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>>552931836
why does she have a tail though
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So what is owlcat releasing after the expanse
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>>552931656
>metacommentary about the nature of roleplaying
>hurrr durrr what's the correct answer I need to ask chatgpt
I fucking hate zoomers
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>>552932027
the iconoclast "don't fuck with the demon machine retard" and related options. generally the ones where you tell him not to be so heartless
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>>552932005
>like Bethesda catching shit for obsidian not reaching the metascore bonus requirement
It's funny how this STILL gets parroted to say how Bethesda is a horrible company (they are) even though they've already outright stated that this isn't really the case.
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>>552932205
He would get labelled as a heretic by the Emperium if he softened his actions and gave much freedom to Xenos
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Which company is worse at this point, Bioware or Bethesda?
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>>552931485
I can't see that grandpa
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someone give me BG2 party member suggestions if i want a fun playthrough
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>>552932416
he gets away with it
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This game looks so white. What happened to woke and DEI?
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>>552932804
>looks so white
>hispanic dude, asian dude and blasian girl also a ginger
I hope the glasses chick is romancable
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>>552932049
Let's ask her
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>>552932515
Bioware is a rotting corpse and Bethesda is a fat bulbous man
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>>552932751
Edwin
Korgan
Viconia
Mazzy
Yoshimo
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>>552932795
Heinrix went to join Yrliet and they lived happily ever after.
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>>552932973
morte is close bur wrong. she's irish, thats what makes her so confrontational
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>>552932515
Bethesda still have other stuff that they can say they're doing well. What does Bioware have?
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Owlcat should do a trench crusade game next.
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>>552932973
This doesn't seem too wordy at all. I thought Planescape was WORDS WORDS WORDS: The Game
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>>552933208
>all the boring parts of 40k with none of the charm
No thank you. Anyway it's not an rpg setting, it's a pure wargame.
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>>552933208
>Owlcat buying into a scam
Would be based.
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>>552932960
the black woman doesn't look blasian to me
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>>552932804
Elon pulled the plug on USAID so Owlcat isn't getting paid to make their games gay and brown anymore.
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>>552933309
A lot of people here are just illiterate
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>>552933624
The asian guy is 100% a faggot or bisexual.
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I miss WotR...
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>>552933624
Explain Epione in DH then
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>>552932168
I looked it up, it's "belief". Thanks for nothing asshole.
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>>552933709
Why do the games that require the most reading, like Yu-Gi-Oh and CRPGs, have the most illiterate retard fans? Someone should study this.
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>>552933790
She's based and cute and slightly vulnerable too
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>>552933771
Gaymar too
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>>552933790
owlcat have jungle fever, they get off on it
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>>552934236
based owlchuddies
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>>552933624
whatever helps you sleep at night
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Owlcat is literally a bunch of Russian commies, there is no esg money they are just like that.
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>>552934058
Not an explanation
>>552934236
Somewhat believable at this point
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>>552934236
Nonsense, they would've made them extremely attractive if that's the case.
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>>552934687
they changed her artwork to make her more attractive, she's got a good face now compared to the previous art
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CONSPIRACY THEORY! Olga is the reason the black girl dollies aren't kissable.
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>>552934687
They are attractive
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>>552934850
Olga is the reason Laarthyr is huggable and kissable and Yrliet isn't.
Olga personally rewrote the Yrliet romance to remove the cuteness and intimacy. You can still see the telltale signs of where it was removed.
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>open crapgg
>daily Sawyer meltie
>the expanse (the owlshill does it for free)
>black woman in DH
>close crapgg
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Tim cain will start the second golden age of crpgs.
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>>552935137
>daily Sawyer meltie
The hate is justified
>the expanse (the owlshill does it for free)
The expanse will be the spiritual successor to mass effect now that Bioware has fallen
>black woman in DH
Owlcat knew what they were doing
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>>552935137
Not much yrl*et today
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Is froggy the only person here who actually plays crpgs?
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>>552935137
Add blaming female writers for romancecels
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>>552935883
I played New Vegas once
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According to tha data miners epione isn't romanceable btw.
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>try to make it seem like anyone actually cares about epione
I know what you are
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>>552935883
I'm playing a CRPG right now.
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>>552936130
I'm a data miner and there's nothing indicating romance one way or the other for anyone in the files. It just isn't there.
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>>552935883
i'm 15 hours into baldur's gate 1 and mildly enjoying it
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I care about epione because owlcat actually wasted resources on making that.
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How did the Emperor directly intervened and saved Roboute Guilliman from certain death during his climactic confrontation with the Daemon Primarch Mortarion at the end of the Plague War novel?

I thought he's dying and an empty shell?
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>>552937056
ask /tg/ :)
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>>552937056
He's fine, he's just busy. He's very active in the warp, performing minor miracles (begrudgingly because he doesn't believe in that sort of thing)
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CRPGs that have NPC allies from time to time (not including pets or summons):
Dragon Age Origins
Tyranny
Pathfinder Kingmaker
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>>552937056
>I thought he's dying
yes, and that's a good thing
>and an empty shell?
it's complicated
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Every time I see Epione's name written I subconsciously mispronounce it in my head as Epona.
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>>552935883
I've just finished DH alpha
are those floating triangles some tzeentchian stuff?
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>>552940602
Me too
>>552940889
Not sure but I did like the jumpy animation
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What if someone new makes a CRPG that's really good out of nowhere
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>>552937056
The exact nature of the Emperor at this point is a matter of great debate and there is no definitive answer. Clearly his corporal form is unresponsive and on death's door, but it also clearly has a massive psychic presence in the warp that is integral with the functioning of navigators and sanctioned psykers throughout the Imperium. How much of this is the remnants of the living Emperor and how much of this is a warp manifestation due to the veneration of trillions of worshippers is unclear. What is true is that the strong collective belief of beings with a warp presence can create warp entities of great power (see also the manifestation of the Greater Good in the fourth sphere expansion) and that many miracles and manifestations of the Emperor have occurred including the powers of the Sororitas, the manifestation and even reincarnation of Living Saints, The Legion of the Damned, and recently even manifestations of shining golden aquila entities that can be little other than Daemons of the Emperor. So he is a dying empty shell, but he's also much, much more than that.

Basically, the Word Bearers were wrong originally, but in the end they won.
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>>552942593
kys
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Hello, /vg/bros. I'm a pretty casual gamer who's been attempting to scratch a deep CRPG itch. I never played a CRPG before BG3 (technically, I played half of DOS2 if that counts, but I don't remember shit except I picked some red lizard dude). I loved BG3. The combat was really satisfying, the constant dialogue/banter was excellent, the various branches of skills and classes was awesome. My one real complaint was that the main story felt a bit overstated since there was very little urgency, and more importantly, the gear was very limited. But still, it was a 10/10 experience. I loved every act, especially because they all provided a totally different vibe.

Based on this, can you please recommend me a CRPG to play? I know Pathfinder and Rogue Trader are supposed to be awesome, but I'm curious if they are really fun adventure plays, or if I'll have to start number-crunching on Excel (which I don't want to do). I want an epic story with all the freedom BG3 provided. More politics would be great. I'm open to basically any genre, but would prefer fantasy/sci-fi. Happy to restart DOS2 if that's what most folks think is best.

Thanks for your help. As a tribute, I offer this topical Pepe.

P.S. I did try Disco Elysium but found it to be tepid. Perhaps that means I'm more interested in a power fantasy.
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>>552943309
Just saw this as well! Sorry for jumping the gun. Browsing now.

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>>552943221
No
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>>552943309
Dragon Age Origins. BG3 reminded me of it.
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>>552943309
You'll find Pathfinder pretty baffling and offputting compared to BG3
Try Rogue Trader. It's a bit more complicated than BG3 but not overwhelmingly so and it eases you into it.
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5e is a mistake
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>>552943608
>>552943745
Awesome, thanks, anons. I will download both. Rogue Trader does sound amazing so I'll probably start there. I'm really rooting for Owlcat to nail the Expanse game, so this will give me a great taste for their writing.

For RT, should I buy all the DLCs? I see for DAO, I can just purchase the Ultimate Edition thankfully.
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>>552943309
Wrath of the Righteous will provide the most pure uncut power fantasy you can get. You can get by without number crunching if you just pick a standard strong build and/or play on lower difficulties. There are lots of straightforward builds that are very effective, but it can be intimidating if you don't know where to start. That said there are simple powerful builds like Oracle>Angel. Just do a little research. I think RT has better characters and the 40k setting is really cool, but the combat system is rougher and kind of a first draft. Also a great power fantasy though.

I'd agree with the other poster that Dragon Age Origins might be the most approachable follow up to BG3. Good balance of story, choices, and manageable combat. I'd recommend the GoG version if you don't want to look up how to patch it for modern hardware yourself. It's on their preservation program and is fully updated.
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>>552944306
Yeah the dlc is good for RT. The first one is better but I still like the second one.
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>>552944306
>For RT, should I buy all the DLCs
Yes. The DLCs have significant and good content, including new companions, and it is integrated into the main campaign. The currently released DLC is available together as Season Pass 1. There are two more DLC scheduled for later this year available as Season Pass 2 that you can hold off on if you like.
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>>552943309
>I know Pathfinder and Rogue Trader are supposed to be awesome, but I'm curious if they are really fun adventure plays, or if I'll have to start number-crunching on Excel (which I don't want to do).
Pathfinder is rather crunchy, but Rogue Trader is more fluffy. You don't have to numbie pump in PF as the difficulty selection is really nice and you can still get a decent experience on lower difficulties. Both PF games and RT are pretty rich in their content and narrative, but neither is mechanically comparable to BG3.

KotOR 1+2 and Dragon Age Origins are each very good but will require some simple modding to get working on modern PCs. KotOR 1 mostly, the other two should "work" out of the box.

Wasteland 3 is a fun pick and not very crunchy. Post-apoc Fallout vibes with some tongue-in-cheek narrative action.

Pillars of Eternity 1+2 if you're a fan of RTWP. PoE1 feels pretty dated at this point but still holds up.

If you wind up liking PoE1, Tyranny is in the same vein.

Expeditions: Rome and Wartales honorable mentions, as both are more TBT than CRPG, but they're fun too
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>>552944306
>For RT, should I buy all the DLCs?
I'd say so, especially the first, it's great. Second is good too but not quite as good, though it does introduce a pet class which is fun.
Might be pretty cheap to get both if there's a bundle
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>>552944574
Thank you, anon. Maybe I'll start here for a "lighter" (learning-wise) experience. So the UItimate Edition on Steam is not optimized in comparison?
>>552944746
>>552944841
>>552945210
Thank you, bros. I will start with DAO, then, and we'll see if Season Pass 2 is out by the time I'm done.
>>552945026
Thank you for the breakdown, anon. I'm adding all of these to my list as well. It's looking like I'll be well-stocked on CRPGs for years to come lol. It took me like 180 hours to beat BG3 because I explored every nook and cranny. I played on the difficulty just below Honor Mode and found it very manageable. I'm pretty sure the only fight where I wiped more than twice was against that possessed group of gnolls in Act 1.
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>>552931485
Nothing.
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>>552945349
>So the UItimate Edition on Steam is not optimized in comparison?
nta but the older Bioware titles are pretty terrible on modern PCs. KotOR 2 specifically got an official patch to fix some resolutions issues, but each game still runs poorly and tends to have frequent crashes. The bare minimum to fix each is just to patch the .exe (there's a tool for it, just run and done) and add some additional resolutions as needed (there are Steam guides for this). Does not take long and is not hard to do. KotOR 1 is the only Bioware titles that truly needs these changes, arguably.
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>>552945869
Understood, thanks. I'll look up some guides and make sure there's won't be a hitch.

Really appreciate all your help, /crpgg/. What a comfy general!
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>>552917772
Abelard doesn't look happy
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>>552946051
>What a comfy general!
gulp
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>>552946303
He has this tranny marine bellowing in his ear
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>>552922703
Heresy has a broad definition. It doesn't need to be about chaos
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>>552946346
he's right
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>>552937056
They've been sacrificing a thousand psykers a day to him for 11000 years and supposedly they "join" him on top of quadrillions of humans powering him up with latent psychic energy from devout beliefs.
He's not an empty shell, but he is fractured and in unending torment which probably befuddles his now incomprehensible nature and galaxy spanning senses.

Basically you're taking what heretics say at face value and you should turn you and your family in to the hive enforcers.
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>>552927486
That's what it is pretty much. It's a shame they decided to go this route instead of doing DH 3rd edition
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>>552930715
Nah f3 is not heroic sacrifice, it's just typical beshitsda retardation and inability to tell a compelling story
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Most of the time when they say "heresy" they mean "sin" and it irks me.
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>>552932416
You don't need to tell him to be fwends with xenos. In fact there isn't even an option to do so. You just need to tell him that the end does not justify the means
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Are there any human x Xenos stories in Warhammer novels?
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>>552932795
Jimmy has too many endings, and I have no idea which is which
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>>552946940
A think a few.
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>>552945349
>So the UItimate Edition on Steam is not optimized in comparison?
No the steam version needs a couple patches like the Large Address Aware patch. You can more or less figure out what you need by looking at the top DAO files at nexusmods (https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/top) or following a guide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtDHfDoAs70) but GoG does it for you.
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>>552946610
>thousand psykers a day to him for 11000 years
>on top of quadrillions
You really believe this stuff?
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>>552940889
They're %%Yu'vath remnants%%
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>>552947158
You are very kind to spoonfeed, anon. Thank you for your patience.
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>>552947180
I don't question the holy scriptures which may or may not be embellishments by people with no sense of scale.
I already know how to read and that's considered a net negative on society as is.
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>>552946940
>Eldar x Human
None.
>Eldar x Dark Eldar
Two instances I can think of; one involving a corrupt Imperial official with a condescending Wych (already posted) and a fairly infamous case of a Chaos Sorcerer with a Scourge girlfriend.
>Human x Tau
Technically, yes. Elemental Council has a human who falls in love with a Tau, though Tau don't understand the concept of love.
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>>552894705
yes, lets destroy merchandise. great slavers. retard. every slaver knows virgins fetch much higher prices. a cuckfag like you, that wants their women to be used goods, of course doesnt consider this fact.
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>>552947919
>Tau don't understand the concept of love
They really are based on Chinese
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>>552946303
He knows the Heretic protag is trying to subvert the chadcel inquisitor
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>>552947919
Seems you mixed up your categories there.
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>>552948092
Yeah I fudged the words.
>>552948036
From a technical standpoint it's due to the fact Tau have an extremely weak connection to the Warp, which in turn is the Realm of Souls/Emotion. So Tau don't really feel emotions anywhere near as strongly as Humans do. As such, romantic love is a fairly foreign concept to them.
Their situation does come with the perk that they're much harder for Chaos to corrupt, since they're practically immune to the little indirect whispers and nudges Chaos uses to corrupt people and they can't be possessed.
This also means the China-expy faction is literally soulless, so take that as you will.
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>>552947919
>Humans are the only race capable of love

What did the Old Ones mean by this
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>>552949510
Oh Eldar can experience love. In fact they experience love the hardest. They actually love everything that lives, to certain degrees, and the act of killing another sentient being is so abhorrent to them that they have to create an alter ego just to bear the emotional baggage.
Dark Eldar are assholes though and stick fingers up their asses until their emotions rot away.
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>>552949510
The old ones were frog people and didn't understand love either. They created Eldar with an accidental need for love but no goddess of love to help them express it.
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>>552949769
Once again proving there's nothing you can't solve with the ol' thumb up the bum.
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>>552949778
>but no goddess of love
The Eldar Goddess of Love is actually Isha, who happens to be their mother so it gets kinda complicated.
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>>552949510
eldar and necrons are all capable of understanding love. necrons that aren't mindless now might not feel love, but they can understand it from their mortal memories. also the lore on emotions and connection to the warp is contradictory, pariahs/blanks are not all emotionless.
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>>552949914
Hmm that sure is a pickle
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>>552949914
based and mommypilled
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>>552949978
>pariahs/blanks are not all emotionless.
That's because they come in grades, same as Psykers.
Most major Blanks are so loathsome that they get executed by paranoid Imperials or, if they're lucky, get grabbed by the Inquisition and carted off to either become an Inquisitor's attache or a Culexus Assassin.
Many blanks are either low or mid grade, which just makes them autistic.
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The blank companion will be the moeblob
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>>552950275
i dunno, true pariahs like sisters of silence and culexus assassins are not all robots when they are depicted. they aren't as emotional as normal people and are similar in temperament to SMs, but those dudes also still feel emotions strongly, they just feel different ones. and mid-grade blanks like you find in inquisitorial retinues seem depicted as mostly normal people outside of the effect they have on people around them.
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>I have to look up abilities and stats to see how to defeat enemies?
>ahhh I'm being genocided this is number crunch save me Bethesda
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>>552943309
BG3 is closer in spirit to Dragon Age than it is to the Baldur's Gate franchise so I second the DA:O recommendation and from there you can try NwN2 which is what DA:O seemed to be like, in spirit.

If you're more interested in the cinematic aspect you may want to try action/adventure "rpgs" like the Witcher series instead though, since most entries in the crpg genre cater more to a nerd-niche that's there for reasons other than good graphics and a normie-oriented movie experience.
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Could Owlcat satisfy incels that rage at Yrliet with a waifu like this?
>banned from posting images
https://files.catbox.moe/3z8528.png
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>>552952714
Pretty sure that's a niche taste both irl and on this site
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>>552952714
No
That's stupid
Yrliet simps don't want a whore. There's already Kibellah if they wanted that.
They want to hold Yrliet's hand.
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>DOOD LOOK AT THIS PORN LOL
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>>552952714
Ewwww
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between octavia, camellia and yrliet, i have zero desire for any elf from owlkek in the future
leave them to larian instead
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>>552952714
>banned from posting images
Really hard to imagine why
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based Owlcat killing female elfcels
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>>552953038
But Larian's elf Shadowheart unironically has NTR stuff with Halsin
https://files.catbox.moe/31bu2d.png
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>>552953038
Love me Lohannah
Simple as
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>>552952714
>>552953181
Who does this appeal to?
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>>552952714
whats the evolutionary benefit of this
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So Starlight is just reusing Laarthyr's model, nothing much to be gleaned from that. Same as Ra'akhti and her sister.
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>>552953982
[redacted]
were you hoping it was a female elf
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>Be gay
>Do crime
Which CRPG?
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>>552954337
kill yourself tranny
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>>552949769
>the act of killing another sentient being is so abhorrent to them that they have to create an alter ego just to bear the emotional baggage.
How convenient. Eldar truly are pathetic larpers
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>>552953982
I don't think Ra'akhti's sister will even get a unique model, considering that she has already eaten her by the time we meet her
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>>552954337
Literally any crpg with romances where you can barge into people's homes and rummage through their chests
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>>552954131
Well I doubt Starlight was wearing corsair armour around the house
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>>552949769
>the act of killing another sentient being is so abhorrent to them that they have to create an alter ego just to bear the emotional baggage.
Yrliet rawdogs it just fine
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>Playing dos2 with my brother
>Classic
>Lone wolf
>I go sword and board warfare maxxing
>He goes hydro/pyro mage
>Currently at Black Pits
Everyone who insisted you go all mage or all physical are fucking liars. This shit is piss easy.
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>>552955623
She even enjoys it
>I hear you breathing - no more!
No wonder they ran her off the craftworld
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>>552955623
Yrliet is a drukhari in the closet.
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>>552955623
Outcasts tend to. So do Rangers and Corsairs and Exodites. Not all Craftworld Eldar are such pansies that they can't handle the emotions that come with killing without putting on their psychic war mask from when they followed the Path of the Warrior, proper mental training and experience is all that is needed. War masks are needed for Aspect Warriors since they are in battle often and get more up close and personal.
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>>552955623
Outcasts by definition are deviant weirdos
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>>552956014
1 - you arent playing tactian
2 - mixed damage is fine act 1 if not better from enemies that will have 0 barrier or armor, late act 2 and onwards turns into boss fights instead of mixed defebce groups
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>>552956341
Sounds like the difference between occasionally dropping some cunt in fully justified circumstances, and being knee-deep in killing for months on end
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>>552954650
It's an analogy for the trauma suffered by conscript soldiers in war, don't be so autistic about it
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Everyone is always about dolly smooching, but I wish you could convince your dollies to smooch each other.
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>>552954337
Da2
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>>552956014
>hydro/pyro
What are you even doing man
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>>552957272
Purely for the seething that would ensue here, right?
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>>552953982
They'll probably give xer a unique model in full release. At least I hope so
>>552955306
She wasn't a corsair, just a craftworlder. Laartyr left the ship and joind corsairs to pursue his quest. That's how I understood it
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>>552957272
Ask Owlcat for prequel DLC where you play as Theodora and have a matchmaking minigame.
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>>552957596
>She wasn't a corsair, just a craftworlder
That's what I mean too. So the fact that her model is a male corsair identical to Laarthyr's just means it's a placeholder. Starlight is still probably a she
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>>552957579
No. Fire Emblem had it right. You pick your favorite dolly and then make all your other dollies smooch each other. Too many times it feels like a lotta of them genuinely don't even know half the other party members exist.
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>>552956791
It's an analogy for being a hypocritical faggot
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>>552913018
>"Tzeenchfags" are going to seethe
>when """Emperor""" wakes up
>and just subsumes """"""their god""""""
just as planned
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>>552957272
Play Fire Emblem
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>>552957748
We need a tzeenchian sim where you brew keikakus and try to get yourself killed
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>>552957748
>*cough*
>*splutter*
>*spits out teeth*
>heh... getting totally... and utterly... destroyed.... was part of my plan!
>*dies*
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>>552958421
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION!
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Beat Rogue Trader for the first time. Pasqal was already my favorite but this sealed things for me.
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>>552958421
losing the game sometimes keeps the game going
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>>552958996
My cute wife Yrliet didn't deserve this..
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>>552958996
Oh you gave Pasqal the Amarnat ending (the bad ending)
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>>552959160
Amarnat did nothing wrong. Let the Cycle be discontinued.
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>>552959121
Shouldn't have pushed her into becoming a soldier for some undeserving craftworld.
She's much better off as a corsair in later life. And she doesn't even fuck Marazhai anymore, they fixed that bug.
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>>552959226
>Pasqal, perhaps we should improve society somewhat
>Great idea! This unit will turn himself into a monstrous hivemind
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>>552959292
The Path of the Warrior is a noble and needed calling, even if the elders and ancestors in the Infinity Circuit of Alaitoc are seething old codgers. Pasqal is just too rigid when he goes full Amarnat.
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>>552959490
This, Warrior Yrliet + Repentant Pasqal = everybody wins
Except Abel but let's not worry about that too much
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>>552959457
It's working well for the 'Nids :)
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I enjoyed Pasqal's conversations immensely but I dislike him as a character.
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>>552958996
based king
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>>552959796
As fabulous as they look, Admech are exhausting to listen to. The gimmick stops being cute real fast.
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>>552959160
It's the only one that makes sense. Pasqual was already the one making decisions for the hivemind and he's been quite rational the whole playthrough so why not give him a bit more processing power and authority.
I was a little more concerned about Nomos but he grew up to be a proper God-Emperor worshiping citizen of the Imperium so that worked out great.
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>>552958996
Hard not to like pasqal, he's the most developed character with a questline that goes through all chapters.
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>>552959796
Killed your tard waifu huh
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>>552960060
The other Haneumanns seem more interesting than Pasqal who comes across as clueless
>>552960107
Nah just found him labored. Abel was more interesting.
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Pasqal is Vashtorr's special little guy
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>>552959796
As much as I like admech he kind of just feels like a generic admech dialogue dispenser and because his quest is the way it is he's barely a real person
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>>552959965
And you were never cute to begin with, laynigger
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>>552960668
YWNBAM
(You Will Never Be Adeptus Mechanicus)
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>>552960668
based pascal
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If you made a seperate party with all the non-retarded companions in RT it would just be Abelard
That's something to think about
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>>552958996
I like that Pasqal PERSONALLY went down to kill Yrliet. Revenge for act 3.
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>>552959490
Being a corsair is cooler
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>>552960882
Abelard's retarded too. He somehow didn't realize Thedora was a heretic or how many jean thieves were on the ship.
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>>552961004
>or how many jean thieves were on the ship.
He doesn't even know what that is. Nobody on your crew does except Jimmy (and potentially Ulfar)
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>>552960925
I just modified the localisation file to say that Pasqal's heretek machinery betrayed him at the last moment, and Yrliet shot him in the eye from a hundred meters, dropping him stone dead, thus ending the schism in the Explorators and earning the cautious gratitude of the loyal Magi.
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>>552960882
Jae's not retarded. You might not like her but she doesn't do retarded things if she has any choice.
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>>552958996
Someone at Owlcat REALLY liked Pasqal because he has a ton of slides about killing the cast
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>>552960959
Maybe, but you might end up allied to Vectcucks and Chaos worms.
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I wonder of genestealers can steal xenos genes
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>>552961335
Yeah and now they're like
>now we know what EVERYONE has been clamoring for... romanceable AdMech YAAAAAAY
well I mean ok might be cool but I don't recall any clamor for that.
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>>552961360
why wouldn't they? tyranids have eaten shittons of xenos.
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>>552961434
Genestealer eldar might be the only way for incels to have eldar (forma to space bug) sex
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>>552961529
Please stop calling me an incel just because I love xenos women! It's very rude!
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>>552961351
>allied to Vectcucks and Chaos worms
Larry seemed fine on this front
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>>552961420
Shestov is a fag that loves exaggeration. He saw two and a half pasqal lewds and like a basedfaggot that he is immeditely started screeching about "OMG EVERYBODY WANTS ADMECH SMOOCHIES"
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>>552961360
It doesn't seem to work too well for Orks or Eldar. Don't know about others.
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>>552961606
Ok, incel
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>>552961529
There is nothing that stops the RT from capturing eldar to throw into rape dungeons.
Your good friend Marazhai can help.
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>>552961607
Every Corsair band is independent, some of them are going to be normal adventurers and traders and not psychos. Or the Corsair lord/lady might be a sociopath and ally with fucking Abaddon.
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>>552961607
Larry has no patience for silliness and will put both deldar and chaos fools in their place.
Yrliet is very weak-minded and would be easily influence by bad company.
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>>552961726
:(
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>>552957272
Yes Marazhai we know you want Yrliet's barely legal ass too
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>>552961759
How do they get around? I mean they can't use normal warp drive, or can they? Yrliet acts like it's her first time.
Same goes for those eldar ships you run into. Are there really webway gates all over the damn place?
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>>552961759
>>552961787
IIRC Yrliet becomes a leader of a band herself, so the worst they will do is pirate stuff and tea parties
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tbf I do want admech smoochies
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>>552961669
Orks are fungi so that makes sense I guess. Eldar reproduce sexually like humans and other large animals, though, shouldn't they be just as susceptible to Genestealers?
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>>552961004
the man was in love give him a break

>>552961332
Her meltie in Commorragh was sort of retarded. Running off to the sewers to facefist her ex is also kind of retarded. Being loose with the crew is kind of retarded considering the hygienic conditions on the ship.
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>>552961896
>Yrliet becomes the leader of a corsair band
Proud of my girl
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>>552961873
They use webway things and their ships are faster than yours in real space
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>>552961924
Too meaty
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>>552962039
But enough about her cock
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>>552961873
>Are there really webway gates all over the damn place?
Yes, but not all of them are safe or easy to use. Also Corsairs have these guys - https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Void_Dreamer and people like Laarthyr to help travel the Warp and Webway.
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>>552962071
>having genitals
I want a real admech not a larper
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>>552961958
>shouldn't they be just as susceptible to Genestealers?
I think the lore is that they can instantly pick out the psychic wrongness of a genestealer eldar and not be fooled.
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I know in 40k since its the future everyone has adopted the mentality of "we are all the human race" but certaint moments are a little jaring because of it. For example idira talking about how she is oppressed because she is a psyker creates alot of tonal dissonance because in modern day western society the black woman is the most privileged class of person. But im pretty sure that was the point, owlcat included in that tonal whiplash to get you thinking about how things can change throughout humanity.
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>>552962303
Oh, duh, that makes sense.
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>>552962095
>https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Void_Dreamer
Neat.
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Why did he post it again?
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because he still thinks "DAE black people" is decent bait
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>>552962439
Meds schizo
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Yrliet sucking the dick and Cassia licking the asshole
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>>552961873
>Are there really webway gates all over the damn place?
Basically, yeah. They had millions of years to throw em around and they're only accidentally stumbled on. For every 1 that the Imperium can find there's probably a few dozen hidden in plain sight in the sector. There's also technology to create temporary entrances/exits.

This is why the drukhari are such a pain in the ass, even if you managed to chase them down and find the little pocket they popped out of there's no guarantee that's the end of the problem since they can just open another near by if they feel like it.
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>>552962534
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>>552962643
That's pretty cool lore
A game starring a corsair crew might be pretty good.
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Yrilet standing next to the deldar in cumrag is like watching mean girls space elf edition
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SILENCE FEMALES
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Abelard, call Idira a slur
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These guys seem based
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When will owlcat finally adapt a good setting?
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>>552962796
Lol what an analogy, and accurate
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Linear crpgs are good and "choices matter" is overrated.
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>>552962989
Based Bethesda GOD
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Why does everybody in Rogue Trader talk as if they're on the autistic spectrum?
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>Corsair fleets are lead by the charismatic leader known as the Corsair Prince or Princess.
>Their crews including trusted followers, blood relatives, misfits from other Aeldari societies, and rogues escaping punishment, all of whom would gladly follow their masters into terrifying firestorms for a promised share of riches.
Yrliet is Queen Bee of her fleet and her crew are her legion of simps.
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>>552963143
Thats how Russians talk.
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Owlcat could learn alot about proper game design from unicorn overlord
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>>552963143
This is how all people in the future will talk.
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i havent played skald since way before the rebalance patch so its actually pretty hard on hard now, ive actually died and lost progress multiple times also they nerfed thief by adding enemies immune backstabing so they dont just solo the game anymore. also im pretty sure there has been some minor changes to other classes to make them more balanced.
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>>552920321
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Why’s Argenta the only one who gets ranged power armor
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Trench Crusade>40k
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>>552964619
How much $ for the smallest playable TC army these days? Where can I play it?
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Is there a more fantasy style RPG similar to Fallout 1?
basically, a short 10-30 hour story with some very simple class building, and basic point buy leveling.
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>>552965328
Arcanum
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Speaking of arcanum is clockwork revolution just going to be Arcanum: New Vegas?
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>>552965363
>made by the same guys
I probably should have guessed.
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Will solasta 2 save this general?
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>>552963223
>Yrilet
>Charismatic
by the emperor, a miracle had been granted to us!
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>>552965462
Does it have magic?
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Does Caves of Qud count?
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>>552966089
You do seem to have time powers.
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>>552966645
That’s not even close to Arcanum then. Arcanum is defined by the fantasy-steampunk fusion, and the magic-technology antithesis.
Also, remember Arcanum isn’t just steampunk with magic, it’s full fantasy.
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>>552966645
that's the worst kind of powers in fiction
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>>552958996
You should have done it yourself instead of relying on him in post game slides, you know. Wimp.
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>>552966214
More like Caves of Chud lmaaaaao
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>>552966940
>Goes back in time
>fucks yo mom
Silence, son
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>>552963223
FWIW Marazhai can also end up with his own Corsair warband
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>>552963223
Booba
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>>552968437
Eldar booba are for Eldar babies, what are you, a perv?
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>>552968437
me on the left when I see booba
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When's the next RT dlc? I'm debating whether to replay WoTR in the meantime.
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>>552969298
Middle of this year
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Wasteland 4
Pillars 3
Jagged Alliance 4
Icewind Dale 3
The Black Hound
Disco Elysium 2
Morrowind 2
Hong Kong 2
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>>552969510
Quest for Glory 6
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>>552969510
Dragon Age 2
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Is he the best crpg companion of all time?
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>>552972095
You have to be more specific
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>>552969510
Baldur's Gate 2 2
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>>552972095
Yes
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I just got to Necropolis in Fallout. I just found the plasma pistol.
Either that means this game is a lot shorter than I thought, or ammo is going to be hard to come by for it.

Starting to think I should have just picked Energy weapons, and let Ian or Dogmeat handle the random mutant critters until I get some real firepower.
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>>552972771
The game is quite short
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>>552972095
Yes
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>>552969298
Apr-Jun per the steam page
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>>552962989
I can enjoy JRPGs too. But it's an entirely different experience. BG3 blew normies minds because they weren't used to choice in their shiny big budget games.
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>>552972771
The only reliable source of the batteries are supermutants. That's the last stretches of the game or random encounters in specific places. And you need to kill them first. Say goodbye to Dogmeat soon lol
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>>552973564
I got enough Rogue Trader, with 57 hours in, and I just arrived at act 3
I'm not going to get anymore DLC eating away my time
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>>552972095
Yes, he is
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>>552974452
A small bit of advice, when someone tells you
>oh look, there is the opposing group, you can talk to them if you like
it's not a suggestion, you have to talk to them to unlock the next stage.
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>>552972771
I think you can finish Fallout 1 in 10 hours or so. You're probably gonna be closer to 20-30, so yes, it's shorter than most
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>>552975002
I have no fucking idea what you mean, and I've played the game many times
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>>552975132
When Tervantias says you can go talk to Marazhai in his new fighting group. If you don't talk to them the portal to the arena won't open, but it reads like a suggestion. At least that's what I've found, maybe it was a bug.
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>>552964619
Grimdark but without the fun bits. Also known as grimderp.
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>>552975468
You don't have to talk to them
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>>552976504
Hmm ok must have been bugged for me. I just could not go through that portal until I went back in and talked to them.
In that case, >>552974452 , ignore my remark.
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Heretic or Iconoclast run for me next?
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>>552977695
Heretic barely exists and is stupid
Go with mainly iconoclast.
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>>552977695
The game really falls apart if you adhere to one alignment.
The only way to avoid that is to come up with a backstory and roleplay.
For instance my fat bastard hiveworld noble, while a proud imperial, enjoys exotic things and japes. So naturally when presented with an exotic one of a kind sword in a vision he was intrigued.
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>>552977825
Alright, Iconoclast Psyker Blade Dancer (wants to fuck an Eldar) it is.
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>>552978640
Have fun
You can still max out Iconoclast if you take the occasional Dogmatic choice, as a treat
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>>552961360
>>552961669
>>552961958
>>552962303
The Ynnari "trilogy" actually shows a Craftworld that dis get taken over by Genestealers after it had gone deep into isolation. As I recall it isn't clear if the conversion was forced or if they intentionally let it happen in an attempt to block out Slaanesh.
This actually led to their Avatar being warped and corrupted as well, with it taking the form of a Genestealer Patriarch rather than proper Khaine.
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>Forced to live either among brutish orcs or as lonely outcasts in civilized lands, most half-orcs are bitter, violent, and reclusive. Evil comes easily to them, but they are not evil by nature — rather, most half-orcs are chaotic neutral, having been taught by long experience that there's no point doing anything but that which directly benefits themselves.
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>psyker gives demonic mind control fetish scenario in the prologue
neat
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We need more paladin games
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>>552980938
I'm more of a Vindictive Bastard fan myself
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>>552980938
Every crpg is a paladin game, if anything we need less of them
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Does Planescape actually have good writing or is it just another oldfag meme because they had low standards and didn't know better
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>tzeench psyker in the prologue is using an Aquila staff
Learning some deep lore, this is all part of GW's decades of hinting
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>>552981593
What do you consider a 'good writing', give an example?
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>>552982081
Limbus Company, Undertale, Deltarune
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>>552982249
How many relays you rockin, bro?
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>>552982249
Yeah, Planescape is close to that level.
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>>552961959
>Being loose with the crew is kind of retarded considering the hygienic conditions on the ship.
it's fine, Jae uses protection
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>>552972493
that would be Baldur's Gate 4
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Women are the servants of demons
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>>552974948
his hairline is NOT that good
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>>552972493
>Baldur's Gate: zer0 made by Square Enix
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>>552984365
That could be great actually.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=VxgTSrSWWm4

new indian CRPG has dropped
looks alright
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>>552984745
>QTEs
deliver us from
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bum
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>>552980183
I am forever big mad at Gav Thorpe for making such a piss poor job of it
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>>552984745
will it have smoochable dollies ?
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>>552985639
You can smooch literally anyone in Rakshasa
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>>552967651
I wanted to keep her around because making her kill Eldar is funny and I was hoping to see more of that.
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>>552972631
Finally a good post.
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Should I go bladedancer with a gun or a melee pyromancer psyker (either rocksaws or sword and shield)?
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>>552986878
Yes
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>>552986878
>melee pyromancer psyker
You've already got Heinrix. Blade Dancer with a gun is cooler anyway.
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>>552985571
>you cannot save her from mutations through [HERESY]
I was deeply disappointed by the heretical choices all boiling down to "[evil] Die!" even though we are talking about The Keikaku Master here. I certainly would have considered the heretical path if it meant securing a good end with my waifu...
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>>552986878
deu it
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>>552987107
Jimmy is your biomancy sanctic buffslut though
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>>552987110
let's be honest, 98 out of 100 [HERESY] choices would give her even more mutations
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>>552987107
>You've already got Heinrix
I make him a buffbot and have never actually done a pyro psyker.
>>552987257
Its a shame there's not a blade dance equivalent for dual pistols.
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>>552974251
>Dogmeat enters Mariposa base
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I stole Jae's holsters
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Argenta needed a slaaneshi route
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>>552988740
Blood for the blood god is a more natural path for her character but in general remaining loyal is not as bad imo. It fits her. I'd reserve the slaaneshi route for the Jae, or ideally - the elf.
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Been sick with the flu for 4 weeks now. Just played trought planescape torment. Best game ive played in a long long time. I played fallout 1 and 2 before, but this planescape world and story I enjoyed much more. The gameplay was more fun. Text heavy and interaction based not too much killing was very refreshing. I ended up chaotic neutral which I was happy with. First time I really got into this fantasy role playing mindset, like my mind was on another plane. My dreams got also very intense because reading so much and the color harmony also did something to my association to feelings. I will try Arcanum or Temple of elemental evil next because I liked VTMB storytelling so much. My friend has baldurs gate 1 and 2 for ps2 and I could wire them to video projector and good stereos. But baldurs gate looks gay at first glance and I like the more edgy story telling. Im also thinking about Jagged allience and neverwinter nights, but I dont know anything about them. They just look cool. I tried arcanum I liked the setting but I got stuck bad in the first city. Im also smoking weed and taking microdoses of shrooms to enhance the experience, but getting a bit retarted. Planescape was so good Im feeling sad that it ended. I got attached to the characters and standing to my philosophies. The game seemed much easier than arcanum. But maybe now after experience with fallout 1, 2 and planescape I can conquer arcanum also. After that maybe temple of elemental evil which seems even more autistic. I like these story heavy games because I actually gain memories and complex feelings. I have 1500h in tf2 and 1800h in dota 2 4000h in runescape, 800h in rust and I dont remember shit from these games. It feels like time wasted from life, but these singleplayer story games feel like their not time out of my life but actually valuable experiences.
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>>552989449
>flu
>4 weeks
Anon...
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>pay more feats to do less damage
why do dex melee fags do it?
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We would live in paradise without the consequences of D&D 3E
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6e when
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>>552989449
>flu
>4 weeks
RIP anon, I'll miss you
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>>552989449
Have you never been taught the value of fucking spacing?
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>>552989671
I got this super virus from turkish jail.

The newer games color harmony I dont like. And if the story is not edgy It seems gay and childish. Looking at most RPG games on steam they just seem so flat. Why so many good game studios failed to get money like: looking glass studios, troika games. The big gaming studios seem to make mostly sterile games for steady income.
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CRPGs need more characters that wear huge hats.
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>>552990159
enjoy 4 years of whatever 5.5e is first
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Cuno
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Game sure loves its Snakes & Ladders map layouts. This location gives me 3rd LotR movie vibes.
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>>552993796
that UI is so gross
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>>552993796
That looks cool!
It is nice to see someone actually posting a CRPG on /crpgg/.
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crpgg is for shitposting during loading screens
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>>552994730
that explains all the owlcat posts
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>>552993796
Does this game do anything better than BG3 gameplay wise?
Any interesting subclasses?
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>>552994730
It's also for discussing Yrliet
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>>552993796
The beauty of Solasta
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how do i stop looking at my phone when my characters are walking?
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give me a good half-orc build bros
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>>552989754
Somebody has to pick a rogue and carry your sorry ass through all the traps and locks.
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>>552908547
How can I roleplay as multiple characters? Hard pass.
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>>552997327
>he doesn't walk through traps and bash locks
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Has any crpg used licensed music?
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>>552997753
>he thinks his reflex saves are high enough for that
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>>552996337
Stop being a fucking zoomer
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>>552994881
I'd say so. Combat in general feels like a better experience. You have true verticality, think using Fly to stay up in the air. Also there's all kinds of shit like line of sight with being able to spider climb around corners and things like that.
It's a good game, the plot's a bit thin but that just makes it feel like a home game imo. "You're going to the dungeon because that's where the bad guy is" style. Though I think the story did have a couple surprising moments, but it's not the main selling point.
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>>552999195
Combat in BG3 was such a joke I played with a full group and only two of us had really played CRPGs before, we still barely ever died. D&D Is just a stupid easy system to break even when youre not trying to. One of our players was just a naked barbarian throwing things too. Wish it was a bit more challenging
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this is how it feels to romance Heinrix or Marz as female RT
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>>553000576
Any Y/N memes starring Heinrix?
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Ctrl f "romance" = 11 results
Ctrl f "gameplay" = 4 results
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>>553000576
Marz sure, Jimmy no
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>>552969773
That will never happen, they did that terrible Rogue To Redemption game and that pretty much permanently killed the series. QFG 1-5 are a complete journey anyways, no reason for a sequel at all.
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crpgs with an evil cursed sword?
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>>553001137
Pathfinder Kingmaker has a cursed sword in Armag's tomb.
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>>553001137
Surprisingly not that common. Can't remember a proper example.
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>>553001137
Sengoku rance
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>>553001137
One of the NWN expansions had a neat sword. Not sure about how evil he was though.
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>>552994881
Yeah, it tries very hard to do it's own thing.
Probably closer to x-com honestly, big emphasis on positioning and level geometry. Majority of CRPGs are on flat ground. Here it's 3D labyrinths. There are a lot of enemies that can move and fight on walls, like spiders. You can as well, with spells and items. Jumping between platforms, destroying bridges, toppling columns, alt routs. So many distant or flying enemies, you have to have long range weapons on hand mid combat. Previous map was almost fully related to light and dark mechanics.
For example here I couldn't cast ground spells on the highest sitting goblin. So instead I cast the column of light that hits everything vertically. And blocked line of sight with a cloud to every other goblin, so they needed to reposition to the ground level. Then transformed my druid into spider and crawled to the last goblin on top, instead of making my warriors climb and jump around.
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>>553001816
Can you summon?
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>>552999804
It's only partly 5e's fault, BG3 is just made to attract people new to the genre or who aren't otherwise big gamers. They succeeded at that, to a massive degree. But part of that is just being an easy game. On a whim I decided for my first playthrough to do Tactician and the 1 level of every class cheevo and it was really easy without very much thought even, into which class to take when.
That's a shitty feeling though because it's like, nothing you do really matters, just hit X to win. I didn't play Solasta on the absolute hardest difficulty, but I do remember TPK'ing a few times.
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>>552995017
Never has any character mindbroken people so thoroughly. I get why though. She's so pretty.
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>>552999804
>>553002132
complete an iron man run before bragging
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>>553002414
where's her forehead crystal btw?
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>>553002473
It's not like it's that big of a step up from Tactician, except you're likely to fail due to some bullshit
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>>553002473
Didnt exist when I played and the story isnt good enough to repeat the game. I dont really like combat that much either I usually play on normal I just didnt appreciate how it took zero effort to win.
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>>553002691
>game is easy as long as I can save scum every dice roll
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>>553000576
gender bend this and you have the yandere trope
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>>553002098
Earliest I've got is druid summon at lvl 5. Saw some items in shop with summon elementals, wizard of this level can probably cast them. Mb warlock has some too
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>CRPGs
>Difficulty
There are no difficult CRPGs. Inflating stats doesn't count.
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>Pull out elantach, I refuse to be impregnated by your mon-keigh seed.
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>>553003021
I don't think she'd go further than hand relief
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>>553002414
>She's so pretty
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>>553002956
I like to reload 1-2 times per fight if it's not doing that to make me use tactics it's shit.
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>>553003129
What about anal?
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Rogue Trader is the easiest crpg.
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>>553003201
No that's filthy she's far too dignified for that
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Here is a cool cinematic shot..
Adventurers have no self-preservations instinct when it comes to loot.
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>Asexual """romance"""
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>>553003840
All her fags were saying its better than Cassia's yesterday
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>>553004234
no pussy > fish pussy
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>>553004234
they cope so hard lol
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Why is this important though? Killing spooders in CRPGs should be a power fantasy for spider haters. Also idk why so scared of something you can squish
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>>553004771
Just reminds me of MH Wilds Arachnophobia mode and it just became another fetish shit. People are really loud about that for some reason, same with Trypophobia.
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>>553004771
They should also add a "no stairs" mode to cater to wheelchair users.
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>>553004771
Those people are schizos, spiders are cute!
>>553004897
>Trypophobia leaving the body when the trypofag takes a baite of swiss cheese
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>>553004771
I want no combat mode. Fighting makes me ick
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>>553005034
That's not even a tarantula
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>>553005082
Yes it is
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>>553004771
for me its the "no eating/drinking noises" toggle
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>>553004771
The big spiders in DOS2 and BG3 were disgusting to look at, but I still managed to kill them because I'm a big boy :)
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>finding two year old reddit posts to get mad at
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>No I won't have sex with you elantach but I will still protest if you have sex with anyone else
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>>553005921
>No I won't have sex with you elantach
She never said that
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>>553005921
If they made Yrliet okay with poly would her simp army drop her?
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Do YDS sufferers set an alarm for their daily melty or do they just go off when they see something that reminds them of her?
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>>553006435
You have to admit it's ridiculous tho

I am a man, I have needs. What am I supposed to do?
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>>553006543
Ace representation is valid, chud. Deal with it.
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Is there anything more cucked than getting a stand-in dolly to smooch and fuck your waifu?
Think about it. You spend all this time getting your stuntman-dolly just perfect and hoping that your desired romantic partner will be into him. You're basically asking to watch while your "MC" does what you can't.
The worst part is that it's even lower than actual cucking, it's cucking yourself with virtual dolls. If you can't see how bad this is then you're already too far gone.
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>>552908547
what game is this supposed to be
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>>553006806
My MC is basically like my son, my creation, so no watching him get laid isn't cucked
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>>553004771
Spiders stopped me from playing System Shock 2 way back in 1999.
I could play games like Baldur's Gate or Icewind Dale, despite the spiders (although the Driders in Icewind Dale were extremely disturbing) but many other games were hard.
I made a point to look at all the spiders up close during an exhibition in a local shopping centre. It got better after this and there are some spiders I even find cute (this here >>553005034 is hard to look at for me, though) but really large and realistic spiders in games make my skin crawl and feel uncomfortable to look at, still.
But I manage.

tl,dr: Redditors are pussies, more news at 11
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>>553006910
Wow, now that is some cope.
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>>553006543
Then just don't be with someone like that.
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>>553007007
Was God a cuck when he watched Adam fuck Eve?
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>>553007079
>>553006543
Imagine being this invested in the "payoff" of some lines of text or maybe a shitty cutscene
Please just go have actual sex.
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Was Yrliet's writer Jewish?
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>>553007260
I don't want to have sex irl I want my character to find love on his epic journey
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yrlietards look what I found
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>>553007260
>Imagine caring lmao
Thank you for your input anon.
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>>553006543
You can't have wants chud, you need to let her set all the rules for the relationship where you're apparently supposed to be equals according to her own words and submit to them.
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>>553006910
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>>553007445
hot
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>>553007445
>you need to let her set all the rules for the relationship
Are there any CRPG romances that aren't like this?
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>>553007734
Rance
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Serious question for Yrliet simps, would you defend her if she asked the RT to castrate himself for her to liberate himself of "base passions"
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>>553007843
a good husband would fulfill that
happy wife, happy life
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There are very few Yrliet simps here, it's mostly tumblr and reddit foid and basedboys who hate straight men and won't to dishonestly defend this garbage of a romance.
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so what's the best romance in every Owlcat game?
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>>553007990
It's the same people who hate Kibellah and Cassia for not being whores
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are you guys trolling or does a dolly who doesn't want to smooch your dolly really actually bother you?
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>>553007990
you yrlietsimps are from Reddit, you MUST tell us how Reddit loves Yrliet or how they hate Raztard
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>>553008164
Owlcat have a long tradition of cuckold romances and we are fed up!!!!
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>open crpgg
>YRLIET YRLIET YRLIET YRLIET YRLIET YRLIET YRLIET YRLIET YRLIET YRLIET
>close crpgg
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grim
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>>553007843
cuckperials regularly replace their cocks by younger and bigger members taken from the lower castes anyway
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>>553006806
Literally this
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>>553008404
Owlcats most repulsive character
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cutest skull shape in the koronus expanse
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>>553008593
finally a real tradwife
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>>553008140
it's kind of funny how much 1-2 anons hate Kibellah and Cassie here, anytime you you talk about RT and companions you will always have that one anon out of nowhere explain how much they think they are the weakest and worst written characters in the game while also throwing around
>incel bait
I'm a nooticer
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Shitposting aside, Yrliet's romance is rather weird. They go out of their way to make you aware she's physically repulsed by you, and write scenes where she physically shudders at the very thought of any physical contact with you, even going so far as to say it hurts her to her very soul to even picture it. Which, okay, let's just take that at face value as someone who doesn't like to be touched, there are people irl who desire emotional connections but have issues with physical touch. There is such thing as non-physical, mostly emotional relationship. Fine, I'm with you so far. But then they also made a point to establish that she looks down on humans and she's constantly using racial slurs non-stop. Even if you want to say "well she likes me even though she doesn't like humans in general", you still have the issue that a great many of her conversations include her saying stuff like "of course, I shouldn't have expected your primitive mind to understand...let me explain", meaning she still doesn't actually think of you as an equal and sees herself as educating a poor stupid lesser species, then she just says "but I like you elantach" anyway, even though she thinks lowly of humans and lowly of your intellectual capacity.

Which I think is the crux of the issue. Yrliet's romance hinges on the fact that she likes you in spite of you being a lesser species, you're "the good one", but it's not actually realistic. She just likes you from the start and calls you a different term before she knows you, which makes it feel forced. She's written to make you an exception from other mon'keigh, but it starts before you say anything, and continues even if you choose the dumb dialogue options that are just not the antagonistic ones that ruin the romance. I think on some level people understand that this isn't written very well, but they defend it for whatever reason.

Meanwhile, Jimmy, Jae, Kibb, and Cassia all have a more natural start to their romance and it makes sense.
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>>553008745
very inappropriate behavior this
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Not reading that chief.
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>>553008840
thoughts on women dreaming
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A CRPG based on the characters and events of the 1978 situational comedy, Mork & Mindy.
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I'm sorry but Camellia is still the GOAT
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>>553008840
A female elf will never fuck you incel
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>>553008840
>picrel
u know, an actual Ordo Xenos Inquisitor worth something would have that in his retinue
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>>553008840
>meaning she still doesn't actually think of you as an equal
Then how do you explain this?
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How are you supposed to build a character in Pathfinder without being deeply autistic there are like 100 choices here
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>>553008840
We know it's you schizo. You have been trying to repackage these talking points after embarassing yourself with your "no elf pussy = white genocide" bullshit.
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>>553009326
I'm autistic and I liked it
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>>553009363
>no elf pussy = white genocide
facts
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>>553009363
>"no elf pussy = white genocide" bullshit.
Is he wrong tho?
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>>553009326
If you're playing Martials, you basically just pick the same feat line for it (picking Outlfank and the same shit). If you're casting, then decide what you really want to exploit and just double down on that.
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>>553009326
Some tips:
- Don't multiclass for your first time. You're more likely to mess things up than do anything cool.
- Pick a lane and stick to it. You want to CC? Smash people with a big hammer? Shoot from far away?
- The archetypes are basically just remixes and sometimes not worth the tradeoffs, but they play very similarly to the base class.

If you have an idea of what kind of play style you want we can give suggestions. If you're playing on Normal (it sounds like that's exactly the level you should be playing at) then every class is viable so you don't have to worry about bricking yourself, just pick what seems cool.
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>>553009462
>>553009483
>devs are anti-white by not letting me racemix with an alien who's species are hostile to humanity
same vibe as pic rel
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>>553008840
>hates marz for being a male deldar
>saves gooner female deldar art
>gushes about mantahra being a deldar
all it takes is pussy!!!!!
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>>553009728
>loli futa femdom incest rape
that's not a thing
seperately yes, but not together
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>No we're not dating, elantach. We're just good friends
>Now stop getting close to other women
uhh, elfbros?
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Unironically what is Owlcats problem?
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>>553008840
It's a shame that every response to this is literally shitposting. People here do not have a "shitposting aside" mode, it's always just shitposting. I appreciate the effort but it's wasted here. There aren't very many places left on the internet for serious discussion and it's a shame. Everything everywhere is ironic or in bad faith. The only thing of value here is people surface level discussing their current playthroughs of games, it's not a place for actual discussion.
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>>553009836
make marzipan a woman
make yrliet a man
what do you get?
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>>553010081
Thank you me
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>>553009483
No and it's a good thing.
I hope we see a lot more white cishet humilation in games, it's about time.
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>>553009836
>hates marz for being a male deldar
BASED.
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>>553009326
For a melee build pick a bull BAB class like Fighter or Slayer, put strength at 18 and pick power attack as your first feat

If you wanna be a spellcaster put your spellcasting attribute at 18

There are many advanced options but if you follow those two guidelines your character will be competent at the very least
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Just rename the general /ocg/ at this point
No, the monthly Solasta bump doesn't count
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>>553010081
Son are you in your room arguing about not getting space elf pussy again
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>>553010101
Marzipan being recruited by every anon who hates him
Yrlietsimp's army replaced with femcels
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I get people criticizing stuff regarding writing and not being happy with how romances are written. That's fine and all, even if I'm not a romancefag. But why do some anons here treat it like it's a real life relationship? They invest so much time and emotion into shitflinging about this stuff it's damn sad to see. If you dislike Yrliet or whoever why not just say she's bad and move on, play games you like? You act as if Yrliet cucked you irl or something.
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yrliet and elantach
elantach and yrliet
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>>553010318
Post about something else then fagola
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>>553010318
Solasta 2 will save us
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>THEY AREN'T JUST DOLLIES THEY ARE REAL TO ME
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>>553010568
because its easy to make bait out of it and farm (you)s
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I killed your waifu btw
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>>553010568
Because people are parasocial lonely morons. Look at Raszard. They treat these characters as actual replacements for having a girlfriends.
When we get easy access sex robots Ras is gonna get a Yrliet bot.
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>>553010568
Is that your first week on 4chan or something? never assume that shitposting reflects someone's true feelings, it's just a game to see how many (You)s you can get
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>in the silent late night hours of the camp, the knight commander sleeps
>not seen or heard by anyone, the tent flap slowly opens
>slowly and deliberately, quartermaster Wilcer Garms enters the tent and stands over the sleeping form of the knight commander, smirking
>he adjusts his tunic to bring out his girthy hog and starts rubbing it above the sleeping commander
>the musky scent of his balls invades the commander's dreams, causing him to toss and begin drooling onto his pillow
>"Yes, that's right" Wilcer says almost silently, lowering himself down to the commander's open mouth.
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>>553010869
You can't kill Morrigan tho
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my wife
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>>553008404
I'll bring SOLASTA to the top all by myself, just you wait!
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>>553010734
>>553010883
I used to think it was like that, but I don't think some of it is shitposting anymore. Guys like pic rel have invested a lot of time and effort into unironically arguing about this.
Stuff like Frog was obvious shitposting, but this isn't imo
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>>553010939
grrrr
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>>553002518
That slut hides it so she doesnt scare off human men
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I don't consider Yrliet to be an actual Craftworld Eldar, therefore she doesn't have an actual CW Eldar romance.
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>>553010914
I can't look at Wilcer the same ever since reading this.
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ELVISH WOMEN OWE ME SEX SIMPLE AS I WILL EVEN LET THEM PEG ME ON NATIONAL KHAINE APPRECIATION DAY NOW SEND ME MY BRIDES OR YOUR CRAFTWORLD WILL BURN
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>>553004771
>>553006945
I dont understand how it makes you stop playing entirely. The only thing that makes sense to me is like a bunch of gay sex in the game, I wouldnt play if that was in the game either but these people make it sound like it's just impossible to play through and not just something really gross.
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>>553011113
>it's no longer shitposting when it becomes too schizophrenic even though the schizo gets off on being called a schizo and having his schizo ramblings screencapped and reposted by totally not him
Here's your (You)
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>>553008840
Female elf makes people go mental. Her simps and her haters both lie and exaggerate. A few shitposters pick up on it and make it worse on purpose. The usual.

The most fair take is that the idea of a non sexual romance is fine and an eldar should be foreign, but the execution was bad for the reason you said.
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>>553011506
ok now this reply is schizo
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Female elves find human males to be disgusting!
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The Knight Commander is laying down in Drezen's market square with Finnean as a knotted dildo strapped to his chin. He is wearing only a thin leather-strap cambion outfit, and has painted his face and body red. A crowd has gathered to witness and cheer on this strange event.
"Full weight, Wilcer."
Finnean starts to complain, the Hand says a prayer to Iomedae and looks away, turning invisible.
The crushing weight of Wilcer's ample bottom bears down on the Commander, meaty ballsack descending over his nose and eyes.
The commander presses and wiggles his tongue along the bottom of Wilcer's musky balls, making strained cambion noises.
Finnean goes silent as he disappears into Wilcer's ample bottom, or cannot be heard.
"YEEEEEE, NYEEEUUGHH" the commander, muffled, shouts out in imitation of a cambion as his tongue eagerly flicks, wandering like the tentacle of a curious octopus.

The Hand watches invisibly, "Ch-champion... Iomedae..."
Nearby, Galfrey in modest cloak and hood, turns away and looks down, pocketing a letter that she's crumpled.
"Absolutely demonic," Regill notes impassively, though with a hint of disgust.
Woljif at times begins to try and formulate a joke, but eventually wanders off, uncomfortable.
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>>553011589
>but the execution was bad for the reason you said.
It's far from just that, you barely get to know here, most of the convos with you are Eldar and Crude rock lore dumps. Even though the game tries to make it sound like you had all these deep convos and got to know each other. That was just like 2 scenes.
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>>553011113
I consider the trolls and baitposters worse than the ones who genuinely believe it. The true believers are just gullible autists who never go outside and believe shit they read online. Baitposters intentionally poison the well.
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>>553008840
Yeah that is pretty weird now that you mention it. Strange of Owlcat to try a romance like that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_(novel)
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>>553010151
?
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I would never ever lie on a anonymous message board
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>>553012006
>the bear... is a man. A bearman!
Maybe we men are animals after all
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>>553012006
He knows a lot about women liking bears
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>>553011589
If Act 3 weren't a thing and the lead up to it so obnoxious people wouldn't be as angry about her.
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>>553012096
>incel game
that explains why this general and /v/ obsess over it
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>>553012096
You don't get to do this btw. In fact, there aren't actually any sex scenes in the game.
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Is it replying to itself or what?
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>>553011673
they all get addicted to the mon-keigh stench in the end
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The Knight Commander's breath hitches as he peaks through an opening in Wilcer's tent. Each night he lingers awhile longer, emboldened by not getting caught.
Wilcer is removing his tunic and oiling up his hairy arms, then his two lumps-- like massive uncooked pierogi -- and finally his giant belly. He takes his time rubbing it in fully, around and in between every crevice, lifting his mighty barrel to get underneath it with a crisp slopping sound.
The Knight Commander tries swallowing quietly and calming himself, realizing he can hear his own jagged breath. He's lost his composure though, and a twig cracks under his boot. Did he gasp? Was it audible?
Wilcer pauses for a moment while the Knight Commander freezes.
Then, without revealing whether he senses a presence, he steps and shimmies out of his tunic like a round and hairy cherub, beginning to oil himself lower.
Squick squick squick, he is rhythmically stroking his thick beast of a cock now, "Quartermaster? More like Three-Quarters-master..." the Knight Commander thinks to himself, swallowing.
Is it for show? Does he know I'm there? As slow as he can, trembling, the Knight Commander begins to mirror the action with his own hard staff, heart pounding. Squick squick squick squick.
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If 4chan/vg is a crpg whose goal is to gain (You)s*, then there would be several classes
>Spammer
most noob-friendly, just volume posts in several generals, does require the 4chan pass feat to be functional
>Shitposter
the most popular class, good at reading the room and knowing when to bait and farm (You)s, keeps a tab on reddit/twitter for outrage, can dip into Spammer
>Schizo
trades quantity for quality, the goal is to actually sound schizo enough to distinguish yourself from the Shitposter but not enough to be called crazy

*for the purpose of this thought experiment not all (You)s are created equal
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>>553012301
I would still dislike her, act 3 was the tipping point
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>>553012768
build guide for schizo spammer multiclass? what feats do i take?
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Wilcer x KC toxic yaoi
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>>553012871
You get multi-tool first. It's costly but it allows you to post multiple times per round. AI generation if you want to get it as it makes writing up text easier but I think that's just lazy and removes the fun of it. Slur Knowledge if you think you can target certain demographics, if there isn't, take Buzzword Mania.
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>>553012768
What about this class: The question asker, he who posts many questions in a thread and actively encourages discussions and (yous) directly
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>>553013090
sweet, thanks. im gonna going take the goal post motion passive as well, it looks broken.
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>>553012096
>incel game
But if it was fem MC with male romances would they call it a femcel game or would they have no problem with it?
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>>553012768
all me
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>>553013397
>Muticlassing
Faggot
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>go up to Wilcer to buy something
>he flips open his tunic revealing his girthy hog, smirking directly at you the whole time
>"W-Wilcer what are you doing"
>He just starts cranking on it as it engorges, his hand firmly tugging up and down the entire length of his turgid sausage
>"By Iomedae, he's huge!" you think to yourself
>You try not to look but find yourself hypnotically staring, mouth starting to water
>he changes to keep his hand still, thrusting into it, forward and back towards you, smirking deeply at you the entire time, though now with some sweat on his brow, his tongue wandering outside his lips, biting in concentration.
>You realize you're hard and have instinctually began softly rubbing yourself through your clothes
>Finally with a deflating moan, he cums all over your Boots of Free Reign and pauses, breathing heavily, still staring directly at you
>"What can I do for you, Commander?" he asks as he pats his brow with a rag and covers himself back up, retracted cock lost in the folds.
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>>553013472
don't yuck my yum dude
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>>553013272
Oh no, that class sucks, it's roleplay tier at best
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>>553012768
What about politifag: Posts about politics, religion and the culture war, derailing threads for (You)s
BBCfag - self explanitory
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>>553002938
And here I thought solasta UI couldn't possibly be any uglier
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>>553005921
>vile xeno manipulates the gullible RT into ending his own bloodline
What happens to the Warrant if there are no legitimate heirs?
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>>553007395
Did it fall out of her buttplug?
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>>553010019
Their problem is that they get the setting better than you
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>>553014398
You can just appoint or adopt an heir, like nobles and monarchs have done for thousands of years.
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The solasta UI anon is strange. First it was that the graphics are worse than anything he's ever seen in his life, completely unplayable etc. Then finally when someone posts a screenshot showing that the graphics are completely fine, he switches to fixating on the completely fine UI instead.

Why is he so bothered by Solasta existing?
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>>553014681
5e is a poison that must be excised from the body of humanity's knowledge. solasta is an invasion vector.
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I have much better things to feel strongly about than whatever ruleset is used. Besides, it works just fine in Solasta, so I don't mind it. I can't think of a system I've played that I truly hate, or even feel particularly strongly about at all.
I play for the roles, and as long as the system supports that, it's probably fine.
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>>553014681
>Completely fine
It's not just one person complaining about it, the UI is ugly and uninspired. It's what I imagine what the UI would look like in a prepackaged Unity game that the devs didn't bother to update or design. And it is STILL ugly btw, I genuinely hope you didn't think anyone was wowed with the screenshots that were posted
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>>553015019
It's just a minimal UI, there's nothing wrong with it at all.
And I'm not saying anyone was wowed (though personally I rather like Solasta's graphics), I'm saying the UI talk happened some time back. It started when an anon finally showed a picture of the game and the exaggeration about the worst graphics ever suddenly shifted into a focus on hating the UI.
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>>553014681
It's an exceptionally ugly and soulless game, head to toes. It's ugly and soulless to the point where it should be placed in the Bureau of Weights and Measures as the ugliest and most soulless game of all time. Every triple A developer should look up to it when making games
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If the exaggeration is some kind of weird bait, I don't think anyone's like slamming their fist down because you're saying bad things about their favorite game.
Just seems really strange to me, that's all. Solasta's fun and its graphics are fine and its UI is fine.
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>>553012724
Why does this sound so erotic
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>>553015187
>there's nothing wrong with it at all
Ok, solasta dev.
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>>553014681
no the UI is really really bad, Indian tier
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Banner Saga 3 really destroyed the series, the absolute lack of follow through on all the hanging plot points and even worse, character arcs, makes it impossible to recommend the games to anyone, since the entire selling point was having a "choices matter" overarcing narrative over three games, which just completely falls through.
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>>553014681
>i-i-it's just one anon!!!
Holy cope
Your garbage mobile game UI deserves to be ridiculed
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>>553015187
>Minimal
It's still ugly however you wish to package it. It's functional sure, but it does not look good. Even some paper texturing on it would do wonders.
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>>553015491
It was fine, still worth playing. Even though I think the combat peaked with 2
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>>553014681
Solasta is the ugliest game, aesthetically, that I've ever played. DOS CRPGs from the 90s have better visual presentation.
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We hate to admit it but Sawyer was the greatest innovator in the CRPG milieu.
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>>553015662
It's not even the graphics it's just something incredibly offputting about the game. Because it's so combat focused I assume the main developer behind it has extreme autism and that's why the game looks so off. It gives me chris chan vibes lol
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>>553015491
>Alette has no tits
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>>553015646
Nah it really wasn't worth it in the end, the combat was just decent, the first game is amazing and makes you think you're actually going to get to see a full and complete journey with the characters they're showing, and then they just kind of spin their wheels in the 2nd game and in the third it just utterly fails to go anywhere meaningful or interesting, ruining the entire premise of the game series.
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Yrliet is ugly and stupid.
She literally offers nothing besides pointy ears.
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>>553015782
Sawyer will only be remembered for plagiarizing the brothers karamazov for Pillars 1, every single other of his games were failures. I guess we can credit him for the kickstarter idea that led to DOS2 -> BG3 too
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>>553015909
ur wrong and a dumb poopy head
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>>553015805
Yeah the developers of Banner Saga were clearly giant faggots, none of the girls look good, meanwhile all the dudes are ripped giga chads with varying awesome facial hair, even fu man chus.
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>>553015824
>the first game is amazing and makes you think you're actually going to get to see a full and complete journey with the characters they're showing, and then they just kind of spin their wheels in the 2nd game and in the third it just utterly fails to go anywhere meaningful or interesting, ruining the entire premise of the game series.
Ahh, so it's the Mass Effect experience...
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>it's the russian lit retard back with pillars 1 = brothers karamazov shit take
what were your other shit takes, you said some game is exactly just crime and punishment too, right?
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>>553015938
>hack plagiarizing a hack
pottery
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>>553016059
No way.
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We love Solasta here
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>>552952714
Someone actually made that image unironically
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>>553015824
They have dropped two plotlines - the assassination of the varal prince, and the Canary slaughter. And it pissed me off greatly. I still love the game, but yeah, the former is kinda important, and the latter is weirdly placed
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>>553016008
I liked them fine. It's just weird that they are all flat.
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I get people criticizing stuff regarding his writing and not being happy with how romances were nonexistent. That's fine and all, even if I'm not a romancefag. But why do some anons here treat Sawyer like he ruined crpgs? They invest so much time and emotion into shitflinging about this stuff it's damn sad to see. If you dislike Deadfire or whatever why not just say it's bad and move on, play games you like? You act as if Deadfire fucked you harder than Californian taxes or something.
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>>553016650
It's a way to get the attention that I'm lacking in real life.
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Solasta would've been a big hit if they went with stylized graphics and a UI exactly like BG.

But they just wanted to make a game and grabbed the lowest hanging fruit. Thats why the game is a mess, they mashed together stuff in an incoherent way.

What boggles the mind is that they doubled down for Solasta 2 and added a lighting system that looks terrible.
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>>553016650
He's arrogant and takes jobs away from talented writers like avellone because he plays politics better. He's basically the Trump of CRPGs
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>>553014672
He wouldn't be able to access the Warrant Chamber.
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>>553017163
Surely the Mechanicus can find some way to reprogram it, or a Magos Biologos can do some gene magic. Assuming the RT knows they won't have kids and can't find an heir with a scrap of their blood, you still have centuries to figure it out.
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>>553016650
I didn't play Deadfire but I dislike Sawyer on how pretentious he is
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>>553017462
>didn't play the game
>hates the man
least unhinged Sawyer hater
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Anon cant comprehend that people play videogames for gameplay.
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>Wilcer's sweat smells like bread, drops of it landing on your back, massaged in by his eager hands pulling your hips back into him repeatedly.
>He whispers incoherently between grunts while working you, rough hands moving back and forth from your hips to handfuls of hair.
>"Yeah open that world-wound for me commander"
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What would be your dream crpg romance?
Since you complain so much anons, tell us what would you conisder top quality?
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>>553014398
>>553014672
>>553017163

The topic is interesting so I'll drop a question or two for 40k fags who know their lore.

Can different RT dynasties merge? Like, what happens of Valancius smooches Chorda? One house two warrants? Then it is only natural that a third could be added, and then a fourth, and so on... until one house rules them all.
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>>553016650
He put out bad games that people disliked, it's just that simple. Of course he's gonna get hate.
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>>553016650
He posted once about not liking some crpg romances
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>>553017640
I played his other games though
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>>552932005
Kotor 2 and NV were glorified mods lol, total meme developer.
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>how do you know this cow poop is shit you haven't even tasted it yet
avowed is ass too
they need to give up on that "universe" it's god awful
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>>553016650
His games just aren't that good. Obsidian only stood out in the 00s during the decline era, standards have risen since then and their games don't measure up to what others are doing
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>>553017945
Rogue Trader titles are not strictly hereditary, you have to have the bloodline, but that's it, it's not "eldest son inherits" it's "the most badass who the current RT selects inherits", so no, your proposed scenario would not come to pass since the children Chorda and Valancius had would not necessarily be the ones who got the Warrant, and even if they did, one person would never be granted two Warrants at once.
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Icewind Dale, PoE, Deadfire.
Yea hes goated.
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>>553017907
double teamed by Horgus and Wilcer
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>>553017945
Probably only if they married each other but then only one warrant of trade would be active... I guess.
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>>553017963
>people disliked
not true
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>>553017907
I already like Jimmy, Cullen, Tristian, Leliana, Lohse, and Minthara. It's not difficult to write a good romance.
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Sorry I dont play owlcat games because they are woke.
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>>553018401
Now show him being whipped by the true massa of CRPGs SWEN
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I had a lot of fun with Pillars 1&2 when they came out and when I replayed a year ago. I'm looking forward to checking out Pentiment

I also occasionally watch his videos where he answers questions or talks about games and the industry, he seems like a pretty humble guy and I feel like I come away with some neat information or understanding of something
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>>553017907
Female elf who ccucks men only
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I really didn't expect crpg thread of all places to get triggered by amateur graphics and UI, made by autistic Europeans. Will try to take screen more selectively I guess.
I find characters goofy looking and nostalgic. It's like a long forgotten mod for NWN or an obscure MMO.
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>>553019013
I mean the problem is that it does legitimately look like nwn2 despite the fact that nwn2 is a 20 year old game that looked ugly when it came out
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>>553013385
you make it sound like gotchas or pointing out hypocrisy makes people self-reflect and change behavior
just ignore retards, it's better for your health
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>>553019013
The UI isn't just amateurish it looks soulless which is the worst quality to have, I've played lots of games with clunky UIs
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>>553019013
The game is ugly but its not a dealbreaker for me. One anon here really hates it
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>>553018563
>Tristian
I know it's kinda going off-topic, but any more vidya romances or even TV show/anime/book where it's shy and gentle cute guy x more proactivw woman romance. Like the concept
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It looks totally fine lmao
I would say Oblivion and Morrowind look shittier and I can still play those
>inb4 some unassailable cope about "sovl"
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>>553017907
Yrliet already exists though
Just kidding that bitch is on sight every playthrough. I love Kibellah
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>>553019530
Oblivion still looks better and Morrowind's is whatever and those games came out decades ago.
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Playing my favorite crpg, mount and blade
I'm saving up money to buy my first city so I can declare an independent state, then will proceed to rape the ERE
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>>553019013
For the last time, even much older games can look good because it's ultimately about art direction, not """"""""minimalism"""""""" or whatever cope you use to explain Solasta
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>>553019530
>inb4 some unassailable cope about "sovl"
You're the one who is coping, multiple anons have pointed out the game has bad, uninspired visual direction
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>>553019013
NWN genuinely looks better than that, and NWN is a decades old game that was pilloried at the time it came out for being ugly. It's a huge problem with Solasta man, fine if you like the game, but don't pretend the problems that are there don't exist, it's like some Larian faggot saying they have stellar narrative design and character writing, or some Owlcat faggot telling me they have great encounter design and combat. It just outs you as a brainless cultist that doesn't actually objectively examine the games you play.
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>>553019717
Who the fuck payed for all of that?
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>owlslop opinion
>absolute esl retardation
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But what is it with cuckshit and this site in general? There are tons of people getting off to it.
On /wowg/ we have a guy that spams about how his "night elf wife" - his character that he posts screens of is going out and getting fucked while not with him and he makes aisloppa images of her getting fucked and bred by animals, orcs, demons, children, other men etc. And also spam about Orcs fucking every elf/human in pseduo bbc cuckoldry.
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Being so bothered by UI in a CRPG is as retarded as being assblasted by the font it uses in its title screen or something
Lots of smelly autism ITT today
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/crpgg/ bringing its best today
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>>553020275
Visual direction is important, the bad UI is one of the reasons Solasta will never be more than a niche title
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>>553020259
god forbid women have hobbies
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>>553019717
That looks like shit though, the EE is much better
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>>553020259
Cuckoldry is mankind's most ancient and storied fetish, kiddo.
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>>553020259
>on /wowg/
Embarrassing that you would admit participating in a general that still plays the abysmal garbage that is WoW in the year 2026.
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Why does owlcat keep adding so many negros to their games? Are they woke?
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>>553019013
I like Solasta, but damn those models looks so bad art direction-wise, just look ugly. Vanilla World of Warcraft characters look better. I wish they had simpler graphics, but better looking characters. Could have went for Neverwinter Nights 2 level, it would have been fine. UI is meh. Don't find it that bad, but not good.
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>>553020275
UI is literally one of the only things that matters in a crpg. This is a navigating menus genre.
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>>553006237
Yrilet will sit on the cuck chair while RT gets railed by Marazhai
>Ending slide makes her hook up with him and the RT ends up alone
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Crpgs should just be text-based because UI, portraits, art direction, and anything that makes the game look and feel good are a waste of time
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>>553020604
False, that would be rape.
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Maybe the most retarded thing said in here today, and that's saying something.
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the real crime was using 5e
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>>553018375
That's the point at the beginning
That the legitimate son of Theodora was not appointed RT and only a spy which made him resentful towards the other two who were further removed from the bloodline
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>>553020765
Average anon cannot imagine any of these
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>>553020259
>But what is it with cuckshit and this site in general? There are tons of people getting off to it.
It's the fetish of choice for misanthropes.
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Im not taking the opinion of someone who plays mobas seriously.
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>>553020818
If you click on the number at the top of a post it opens a quick reply window that allows you to quickly and easily reply to the post you're responding to directly
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>>553020259
High IQ people love it. I'm not kidding.
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>>553021085
I'm imagining a end game MTXed Korean MMO character reading that gear set.
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Ugly UI is ugly stop talking about it. Let's discuss smooching and why no game actually involves love triangles with potentially fatal resolutions.
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>>553021209
>why no game actually involves love triangles with potentially fatal resolutions.
Kotor 2 restored content does that
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Since Dark Heresy will have branching paths with consequences they should add Larry's clrsair party to the game where you can go on their ship. The branching path is if you are female, you can get gangbanged by male Eldar hunks. If you are a male you get laughed at and humiliated by Eldar women.
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>>553021209
RPGs have always been pussies in killing companions mid-way through, much less so for romance reasons.
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>>553020782
Alas, you can't rape without also introducing cuckoldry.
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>Crpgs should just be text-based because UI
I was gonna ask has anyone played COA games like the VTM ones or Fallen Hero. That has romance uguu
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We will discuss CRPGs in the next thread instead of talking about sexual fetishes and fantasies.
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>CRPGs
Cuckold Role-Playing Games
oooohh, that's what it stands for
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Why don't you post better?
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>>553008840
Oh that's a good point actually.



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