The Black Arts edition>Demo daysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66>/v/3jamhttps://itch.io/jam/v3jam>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>555476298
Is it over? Are all the brown people finally gone?
shinobu = medonut = claudedog = youshovel = gaben
>>555557889hello betz!
>>555557967whiter than you, 'dro.
SLOP MARKET IS OPENNarrative games have taken the #1 spot.#2 Sim#3 Horrorhttps://howtomarketagame.com/2026/01/27/what-the-hell-happened-in-2025/Thank your local Zukowski chad human posters for sharing this information. Disregard all insectoid nodev seething about "ecelebs".
>/v/3 in opSomeone make a real thread with an unvandalized op
>>555558127this>>555558162fuck off betz
>Everyone is shitting on Apple because of thishmmm
>>555558212that's because they aren't CONSUMER FRIENDLY chud!
>>555558212Wasn't this ages ago?regardless, patreon just said "just charge iOS users 30% more and tell them to get the fuck off of iOS when buying shit lmao"
>>555558212How does one "use ios" "for subscriptions"?
also, I port to all devices EXCEPT iOS because lmao, if your game isn't personally Steve Jobs approved then it's not a real game chud :^) nah fuck that shit the real players who play anything besides AAAslop and match3slop and gachaslop are on Android
>>555553532Erm there's a newline in your title so that's bad formatting>>555553786You really gonna make me manually clean this?
>>555557975KEKPOW
>>555558292umm sweaty they would need to charge 42.857% more to counteract a 30% tax
>>555558410>link: mcdonalds.comlol that's a good one.
>>555558094Time to make a Survival Tower Defense City Builder RPG RTS>kill deer and harvest berries>chop down trees>mine stone, silver, and gold >use resources to build your city>build walls and towers to defend against enemies attacking you>build castles>train units>when units kill enough enemies they level up, gaining extra statsLet's call it Age of Kingdoms
>>555558127>>>/v/731836926>>>/v/731836926
>>555557975>>555558418I'm glad I don't understand any of this insect gibberish.
>>555558473Rust, but with npc minions
Imagine a game where a character is being pumped full of food (in the form of silver sludge) and you have to finish the stage before she pops lol haha wouldn't that be crazy?
>>555558536>thread #52 of the weekI sleep.
>>555558292but if a gamedev says "my game will cost 50% extra and can people get the fuck off steam when buying shit" they will be dragged through the mud by gamers and forced back to steam. Funny how that works!
South America, but completely covered in radioactive craters
>>555558679It's just to divide up the shitter his attention, he can't target both at once and /v/ has better moderation too
I'm so tired. When will I catch a big break in gamedev or even my networth?>>555558094I looked at it after that one anon posted a link. Interesting how Narrative games popped up. Lel at how Zuk implied you need attractive looking friends to make an FMV narrative game.
>>555558094>Friendslop
>>555558720zukjeet lol
>>555558212I dont get it how can they charge this? Do they own Patreon? What does this mean if I made a game and made it available via subscription? Am I getting what is effectively a 30% tax each month?
>>555558473Some devs have attempted something exactly like this but it underperforms because they did something retarded like an isometric view or made it generally unappealing to most gamers. The genres are still very fertile, but it is easily possible to fail.
>>555558094
>>555558812What?
>>555558861kek
>be me>watching an episode of bocchi the rock>bocchi (cute girl) does a cute thing>haha! i enjoyed that. You know, it gives me a good idea for an interesting mechanic for my game>asks claude to implement the mechanic>its done>ask claude to playtest the new mechanic>it works!feels good to be a yesdev.
>>555558970kill yourself
>>555558669Skippy's Terminator 2: judgement day peanut butter?
>>555559005That's what I'm thinking.
>>555558970>ask claude to playtest the new mechanicI also did this to test my legally distinct nemesis system
>>555558981what? why?
>>555558852 I can't imagine isometric working with those systems, what retards
aichads are winning bigly.... guys im feeling less cerrtain about being a luddite mayber I should try and use AI?
>>555559160so TRVEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M9r6PZPaIo
>>555558094RIP Sandbox and VR.However keep in mind this chart indicates the volume of games released that are successful. It doesn't indicate viability of the genres. Just which genres are the most flooded with successful games right now.But stillRIP sandbox and VR. Beaten by 2D platformers lmao.
>>555558536hello betz!
I asked Claude to play test my game and it got stuck, rewrote the code so it could no clip and told me to suck a fat one
>>555558852Isometric looks beautiful
>Got a new processor>Save system stops working>Installed my old processor to make sure I just didn't introduce a bug somewhere >It works fine>Reinstall new processor>Broken again
So who actually killed /agdg/? I'm confident it will rise from the ashes but I think it's safe to say it's been pretty well slaughtered at this point. My money is on a completely unknown "schizo" who's been pretending to be practically every named force in the threads. But what to call this shadowy figure?
>2026 aggy>inner circle is forgottenits over. we are doomed to repeat the cycle once more.
>>555558212Wasn't Apple given a court order to stop doing this? Didn't Apple get charged with contempt after maliciously trying to get around it?
>>555558852>Some devs have attempted something exactly like this but it underperforms because they did something retarded like an isometric view
>>555558419I'll charge 100%, fuck them
geez, thanks gabencunt
>>555559652indie devs aren't people, sweaty. not like our wholesome patreon creators.
>>555559562this faggot>>>/v/731837156>>>/v/731837206>>>/v/731837423>>>/v/731837491>>>/v/731837517>>>/v/731837532>>>/v/731837578>>>/v/731837605>>>/v/731837637>>>/v/731837695
>>555559490>want to finna get that new computer>ram costs ten trillion dollars>nigger
>>555559825I got lucky and bought 128gb of ddr4 a few years ago for $230. Gave two of the sticks to my nephew recently though.
>>555559787>>>/v/731837637You can't even argue with this though
>>555559691wtf I love steam now
I have to say, I prefer ChatGPT over Gemini.ChatGPT just has... soul.
>>555559562The Golden Age is coming.
>>555559087you’re a faggot
>>555560091True, ChatGPT has more Reddit energy while Gemini is Kotaku
>>555559562Everyone who didn't (You) my progress killed agdg (the thread) but it lives on in discord, the yesdevs always give at least a react emoji on progress posts.
>>555559929>128gb of ddr4 a few years ago for $230.We didn't know how good we had it.
>>555559562> So who actually killed /agdg/?fatfuck gabencunt did this.
>>55556032120 years from now people will complain about prices and you'll have zoomers telling them to just build their own PCs>I built my first PC after mowing the lawn around the neighborhood for a couple of weeks
>>555559929It costed me approx. $200 including tax for 64GB of DDR4 a few years back. I really dislike how these companies aee somehow magically making these parts expensive as if supply just instantly dried up from demand which I doubt. I'm eeally hoping the AI companies go bankrupt. At least I'll be able to get cheap pc parts. No way do I want to buy a crummy laptop to gamedev on for the same price as one 5 years ago that had better performance.
>>555559235>>555558094Zukjeet samefag
>>555559659>release date 2017That was ten years ago. We're talking about the current market. Don't ever try to prove me wrong again.
>>555559562fagoon
>>555560592https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxuMQGkzTW8
>>555559787100% seeing the same subhumans doing their ritual shitposting makes agdg less interesting. The seething about Gabe strikes me as particularly insectoid behavior. I can't stand it. And that's because I know the "people" doing it are creatures who I wouldn't even notice outside of the internet. Actual nobodies who are doing nothing with their life, not even pretending to make a game, and they are genetically inferior and forgetable in every way.
Give gamers what they want
>>555559947>he's (me) right thoughNobody is clicking that.
>>555560801>Give gamers what they wantbig werewolf cock knocking up human women?
>>555560640Him + betz certainly. They both started the routine of spamming the board with a new gamedev thread everyday and they haven't stopped for almost 2 years now. This killed agdg and made /v/ threads lame circlejerks of the same 5 people everyday. None of whom actually appear to be making or at least releasing any games. I don't even know what they're doing in those threads anymore and I don't care.
>>555560964well welcome to /vg/ hope you enjoy the gacha slop
>>555560750>forgetableGood morning saar
>how's that game coming along?Do you really need to ask every single day? Stop nagging me weirdo.
>>555561291>>555558725
>>555557889>But I want to use AI>I don't judge, go ahead.>2D>https://gemini.google.com/ (Nano Banana Pro)>https://retrodiffusion.ai/>3D>https://3d.hunyuanglobal.com/>https://microsoft.github.io/TRELLIS.2/>Music/Audio>https://suno.com/ (They recently added audio one shot and looping effects)>https://elevenlabs.io/ (Voice acting)The absolute state of /v/ threads lmao Entire OP is now an advertisement for various AI services.
>>555560043But americunt devs are also losing money because of this though. Since gabencunt's conversion rates are out of date, turdines are basically paying less for games when converted for their currency.
>>555561460The last thread was like that too. 80% of the OP is AI faggotry.>>>/v/731737198/v/ threads are dead now. agdg and /v/ threads are dead. Gamedev on 4chan is literally dead. How did it come to this?
>>555561764>How did it come to this?gabencunt allowed ai slop on the steam
>>555561764Us Trudevs are building our masterpieces and we're going to amaze this general.
>>555561764Look who is there posting in the first few posts. Same routine fygoon does. >>555560964They both fucked us all.
>Hey all you /v/tards,>It's your pals at /v/3, and we need your help! lmaoGross.
Honest advice: If you're thinking of posting progress, don't. Post it on TikTok/X instead, you'll have a chance to reach more people if the algorithm is in your favor.
>>555562189Why not both?
>>555561460I wonder how that happened?
>>555561460>>555562340Rule #1 of the jam>AI usage: vibe coding is cool lolthis is all from someone who has never made a game btw and has been in agdg for 11 years.
>>555558094>AAAslop gets more reviews than indieslopmore news at 10
>>555562289oh fug he is jacked.
>>555561764Honestly /v/ is incredibly, almost comically hostile to game developers compared to like a decade ago that its barely worth engaging with them. Such a shame because so many great games came from this site. Obviously a lot of it is jealousy because we're doing something they can't do but a lot is that they have this misplaced anger because they blame all game devs for AAA gaming being shit now.
>>555559562fygoon, not because he himself caused it, but because retards see nodev shitposting and think "wow /agdg/ is the perfect nodev shitposting spot" so they've come here to shitpost about useless shit all day>>555559615the problem with inner circles is there are multiple circles and the 'inner circle' is just a meme that encapsulates the idea of it.The true inner circle is too far removed from /agdg/ at this point whereas the inner circle you're thinking of is just regular anons that comment on each others' games.Let's go back to that. Let's go back to talking about each others' games and being friends.
>>555561963>>555562340So this guy literally ruined gamedev on 4chan so he can shill his company v3 and get paid to advertise AI and not make any games himself. That's super villain tier. No wonder he and fygoon were best buds.
>>555562289pretty cute
>>555562684/v/ has always been a shithole for as long as I remember itit's a containment board.
>>555562189>become an "eceleb"ohnonono aggiedaggies will have a melty
>>555562189I like this place better.
>>555562684It's "buy an ad" and 2 replies maybe if you dare to leave the designated gamedev general which nobody cares about because it's constantly in the catalog. I mean maybe you can as a dev make a thread about your game survive, but you almost don't even care to try anymore.I also remember when /v/ was still resisting coomer threads because it was obvious the catalog was broken where anyone actually wanting to discuss games was struggling to keep a thread going. That was so long ago.
>>555558212Apple was always shit, anyway.Somehow the cancer spread besides just Jobs.
>>555563089>I also remember when /v/ was still resisting coomer threads because it was obvious the catalog was broken where anyone actually wanting to discuss games was struggling to keep a thread going.And now you have these brown subhumans insisting that 95% of the catalog being porn or softcore porn "has always been this way".
>>555562836>/v/>a containment boardNo it's not. /vg/ is literally the containment board for recurring threads in /v/, when weirdos decide they need a thread to be up 24/7 it gets moved to /vg/.What has happened with /v/ gamedev threads is literally the indicator of a dead or injured community that can no longer keep generalfags in their containment zones.
>>555562742>fygoonAtleast he has a game and used to post it until he mysteriously stopped posting here altogether
>>555562742>The true inner circle is too far removed from /agdg/ at this pointAre you talking about the Peripeteia inner circle?
>>555563252You treating that piece of garbage he hasn't improved over years now as a game is part of the problem. I don't mind people new to game dev but he's not even trying
>>555563407No I agree that it's a very unpolished unfinished game but I was just mentioning that he had something to his name
What the fuck was the point of buying sketchfab, bandcamp and artstation?
>>555563407>nooooo you have to improve and be better because I told you to do better nooooooFygoon can be a gimp all he wants I don't care. Betz is the actual neverdev retard who has no right to even be in agdg and has found a way to cripple it in order to try and make himself relevant. He has had over a decade to make a game here and has chosen to do this instead.
>>555557889:: Hirdrih Technologic ::progress :: 28/Jan/26 Was without internet for a while but still tried doing shitty prototypes of stuff like combat, with the one thing bothering me being how the projectiles aren't fully independent from the sources, so they're still "dragged" by the player and enemy. Doing what I can before my third-world-in-denial of a country gets wetter and my house gets more dog piss.
>>555562289What does it look like without the crt filter?
>>555563629Where's your game
JUSTICE FOR OSH
tick tock, steamies
>>555563242I moved to /vg/ without ever touching /v/.When I compare /vg/ communities with /v/, it's completely different.>>555563324I'm talking about an inner circle from the earliest days of demodays. Like, demoday4, thereabout.
>>555563972damn that's crazywonder why this guy is so invested in this court case?
>>555563972Every time valve loses a lawsuit steam gets better prove me wrong
actualised my dungeon generator and added a path drawer
>>555564203when valve lost the lawsuit to the ACCC relating to refunds, they essentially fucked up a lot of things and refund fraud became a thing on Steam, where you can buy a game, crack it with the first result on google, and then refund it. not only do you get a game for free but you also get your money back. it's why a refund rate of around 10%-20% is considered "the average normal" for steam games.
>>555564203well, Steam keeps getting better and better
>>555564016>I'm talking about an inner circle from the earliest days of demodays. Like, demoday4, thereabout.This would be around 2012-2014 as I understand. Are they still around, after all this time?
>>555563716Not really a crt filter, just some scan line+Dithering+slight blur. Here it's turned off, not a huge difference.
>>555564829maybe it's webm compression and blur but I like this a lot without the lines
Where the hell did this whole "Betz has been here for a decade" meme come from. I think it should be obvious that I showed up here when/v/3 started in 2020. Which BTW featured two games I worked on. I'll let you figure out which ones. As for AI, it seems there's some misconception. I'm no AI bro and if you're getting fooled by some discord screenshots that are very clearly jokes, then (you) are more retarded than I am.Not that anyone cares but my stance on AI is it should be used as a temporary crutch or a learning tool for skills you don't have. For example, my skills lie in art. I have no fucking clue how to program which is why anything I've done has always been with other people. While yes, I'm sure I could watch "le e-celeb's noob guide to programming" I'm more of a hands on guy. Having something like Grok or GPT to ask "hey how do I do this can you code it for me" and then reading it and understanding it myself is going to eventually teach me to start doing stuff on my own. Kinda a hands on method so to speak as opposed to just watching someone else do it. This probably doesn't work for everybody but it does for me. Anyways that's my blog post.
>>555563614To funnel artists and musicians into the epic ecosystem.
Thanks for confirming the accusations
>>555565094>I>I>I'll>I'm>I>my>you>my>I>I've>I'm>Ishoo hold on *takes a sip of gatorade*>While yes, I'm sure I could watch "le e-celeb's noob guide to programming"uh huh yeah also known as learning right, that's beneath you understood please continue nice hysteria about ecelebs btw>I'm>myself>me>my>me>myIs it over yet? My camel died 2 weeks ago reading this post. Not a drop of gamedev in sight.
>>555564369I love Steam refund policy even though I have never refunded a game
>>>/sp/cheerleading I post here now
>>555564829Very nice. Are you related to that one spurdo meme game that came out from here?
>>555562289BBBBASED!
>>555563972Tim Chads......we are winning!
>>555564337Wish i could gen dungeons like this. Learning resouces u recommend?
>>555565053I'll probably just add an option to turn them off eventually. I personally like how it gives it more of a grungy feel>>555565664yes :D
The steamies all wishlisted my game but didn't boughted it. Why steamies do this?
>>555565094>I've only been here since 2020So six years? And you still haven't made a game.And your last expo got 1,600 views. For a show that has been going on for how many years? I understand things went wrong for the winter show but just look at it from any sane persons perspective. You're fucking around for 6 years not making games and somehow still think you need to be betz the famous namefag from agdg who makes /v/ threads to shill his v3 stuff.Why.
>>555562289>>555564829Fucking tight. If you're just doing scanlines, why not go full on CRT filter? And I fucking love the choppy animation on top of it. Is it on steam yet?
>>555565996deal with it
>>555566101>And your last expo got 1,600 views.Less actually.
>>555565974Amazing, your games look great.
My games suck
>>555565921I don't use learning resources, sorry.
>>555565996I do that when a game is too expensive so I will get notified when a sale gets it to an acceptable price
>>555566147https://store.steampowered.com/app/3978590/Warp_Bound/Just put it up on tues. I'm still running Unity 2020, non URP, which makes the CRT options kind of limited unfortunately. I've tried some of the ones available and...eh.
Vibecoding is not cool.
>>555557889I tried to read this book and follow along and now I'm reminded why I don't like OOP and Java by extension
This is what happens when you try to go the legit route and buy your assets.Game had stuff ripped straight out of Aion (old mmo) snuck in there, almost all sound effects.None of this would have happened if he just used AI
>>555566743Oh shit I just saw this on the pisscorp. And yeah I getcha on the CRT thing. Dumb question, but does this have multiplayer? Seems like the kind of game that'd be good for it. Y'know, build up your ship and then attack others and steal their resources or something?
>>555564608not really. I only found it because I met one of the devs in person by chance
>>555566960>doesn't name the "third party seller" of the stolen assetsSUSBut more importantly nobody cares. Wasn't it free to play?
>>555563972>Steam cultists when the courts stop valve from ripping them off
>>555566960The article says that the company behind this game was already under scrutiny and enshittification from players, all those previous other controversies. If they didn't have that, nobody would be scouring the files of this game because the average Steamie doesn't do that. Your game literally has to be an Ultrakill/Undertale tier success for steamies to naturally start wanting to open up the files of your game.
>>555566851I don't know if it's good or cool or not.All I know is if you need a crutch to program then you're probably not ready to make a commercially successful game yet. I hope you eventually graduate and can code without having to reference anything but your docs, like all yesdevs will be able to do.
>>555567013Nah no multi, Id love to but it's a lot to add at the moment. Maybe if the game does well I'd add it in as a free update.
>>555567013>Dumb question, butoh no no no it's habbening again
>>555567348>Your game literally has to be an Ultrakill/Undertale tier success for steamies to naturally start wanting to open up the files of your game.It was featured by some of the biggest streamers
>>555566960>buying assets>using AI for assetsWhat ever happened to making assets with your own two hands
>>555567446would the game exist without them?
>>555567441>It was featured by some of the biggest streamersOkay? This doesn't contradict what I said.
>>555567446Ain't nobody got time fo dat
>>555567372>Nah no multiThat wasn't a question. That's his way of telling you to change your game. You would be wise to listen.
Looks like someone already beat /aggy/ to FNAF but it is softcore pornhttps://youtu.be/JYCgYdf1iDI?si=y8S3JGZMzf9sSLNj>>555566851This but only because I want to hoard any advantage I can over other people
>>555567573fine I'll bite
>oh hey osh little buddy welcome to the discord love your game >wow thanks betz glad to be here>2 days later>hey osh get over here>hey betz whats up?>so uh your game... the head is 2D on a 3D body?>y-yes...>the discord goes silent >betz reaches for his gun>"Why"
>>555567824I think this might be the first accurate retelling of the Osh situation.
>>555567824I was there. That's exactly how it happened.
>>555567893See? He even admits it
>>555567893It skips the story leading up to it though which is osh posting your /v/ gamedev threads for years and you repeatedly telling him he needs to change the head, but he refused to listen. So you attempted to bully him in front of everyone and force him to explain himself yet again, but this time live in chat to King Betz not just anonymous feedback. That's the full story and the moment you removed your mask.
>>555563693>my house gets more dog piss.nortubel what the fuck do you mean?
>>555567709Okay so they got under fire for stolen assets for this because they had enough players to notice + previous drama making players hostile towards them. Why would you care about this? Highly likely your game won't reach such numbers which means your game won't be under the same scrutiny so even if you do end up getting an asset pack with stolen assets unknowingly or steal assets deliberately, nobody's gonna give a shit.Especially if they're changed and retextured to be unrecognisable.
>>555568062osh posting *in the /v/ gamedev threads which betz posts
>>555568071>Highly likely your game won't reach such numbers which means your game won't be under the same scrutiny so even if you do end up getting an asset pack with stolen assets unknowingly or steal assets deliberately, nobody's gonna give a shit.1. AI assets are free2. win-win3. If I didn't believe my game was gonna make it I wouldn't make it
>>555567423Look at the way Osh even answers. Like oh shit this again, he's had to answer and explain this 8,000 times in the /v/ threads (which betz posts). He knows what is coming, he knows what is happening. That "Yes". period with no followup says it all. Osh knew he was being cornered yet again. What he was struggling to accept that it was betz all along. A realization too terrible to believe.
>>555565094TL;DR.Off-topic, but I am really curious as to how many and which game developers here will participate.
>>555568308You don't need to reach 1000 concurrent players every day to "make it". Depending on your time and money investment of course.
>hey osh little buddy love your game I see it everyday and know everything about it>gee thanks betz!>later>hey osh... so your game... is that thing I notice about your game actually your game? that thing that I already know because I have seen your game everyday for 2 years... is that [thing I don't like]? >y-yes... >hmm>thought so... >motions to his goons to close and lock the doors>Why.
>>555568308>3. If I didn't believe my game was gonna make it I wouldn't make itthen why do so many people make games that fail?
>lemme tell you something osh... things I don't like about your game? Are things you should change. You should change your main character. I don't like it.>no I can't it's mine... I like it>yeah we like it too betz lay off will ya >What no I like it too I was just asking, stupid question. Just asking was all. It's his game he can do what he wants what do I care. And then we all sighed a sigh of relief. But we knew. Nobody dares to say no to King Betz.
>>555567446nooooo I'm allergic to effort I need success NOWcomputer, generate me 5 more game ideas!!
is unity/unity C# easy to pick up and do prototypes if it isnt my focus? im a 3d artist, i use unity/unreal for work from an artist pov, i want to focus more on the art perspective but still have a playable game but without heavy investment into programming as a focus
i fucking give up.... for today
>>555569083only the top 20% in any domain succeeds
>>555569120That is actually what happened someone had to step in and say they liked the 2D head lolthen betz backpedaled. If we didn't intervene he was basically going to brutalize Osh right there in front of everyone.
Betz is the Tony Soprano of /agdg/ and literally runs the 4chan gamedev mafia. You either do what he says or you get whacked. Look at all the games that stopped development after he purposely fucked up their presentation because he didn't like the game. The only problem is, I don't know who his capos are. If we take them down, we have a shot at taking Don Betz down.
Why is betz telling people to change their games>make your game multiplayer>make a new main characterlmaooooooo
>>555565094People were saying I was working on a game for years back when I hadn't even been posting in /agdg/ for a whole year. We have some anons that just make shit up. I assume they do it because they are bored nodevs.
The three decrees of King Betz as inscribed in the teachings of the unholy discord:>All games must be available on Android >All games must have a CRT filter>All games must not have a 2D/3D mixAbide by these or forever be ousted. The law is clear and just.
>>555569514That's just the feedback he gives while namefagging too. If he does this while namefagging imagine how opinionated he is in the threads posting anonymously. He has probably told literally every gamedev in agdg and /v/ what to do with their games. That's why he feels so comfortable trying to do what he did to Osh. He thought nothing of it until the gamedevs in the room spoke up for Osh. We look out for eachother and Betz is not one of us. Real talk blud.
Hey new to these threads, here cuz the gamejam looked fun. Can a kind anon fill me in on the community drama cuz I really don't want to get involved in a nasty niche community.Are you talking about the guy making the 3D game in Godot with the little cartoon guy with a blue body? The guy putting together the jam was being weird to him? I really only see the threads on /v/ and aside from the lizard guy they're usually pretty chill. Is there some weird culty circlejerk behind the scenes?
>>555565094You were bragging about being around during the Ronny the Redpill and Crumble era my dude. Did you forget already.
>>555559087tranime is corny, its the marvel of japan so its kinda cringe for gamedevs to be inspired by something so pedestrian
>>555569902Lurk moar
>>555567893Betz, do you dislike the 2.5D of some newer games? And do you dislike the isometric 3D-rendered graphics of Diablo 2 and Factorio?Are you a nodev, incompetent, envious loser?
>>555570232Shut up newfag or answer the damn question. I'm here to make games not play barbie dream house with you queers
>>555568356>talking about yourself in third persononly you spam ecelebs, shitty facebook humor and cries about AI/fygoon/joshua, tranny betz
>>555568356This isn't larping btw this is literally what happened and how it happened and any gamedev who has been in this situation knows exactly what Osh went through. Betz was literally trying to bully him. Just thought that should be clear for anyone who thinks it's a meme. It's a meme because we're making fun of it, it's not a meme in that it didn't happen. Betz actually tells people what to do with their games and literally did try to press Osh in front of everyone.JUSTICEFOROSH
>>555569902from what I can tell there is a coordinated shitposting/slander campaign against the dude behind /v/3 and they're shitting up the thread by posting about him constantly like some gossiping women
>>555569902>Can a kind anon fill me in on the community drama cuz I really don't want to get involved in a nasty niche community.
>>555569902Don't enter the "jam" it's made by a nodev shitposter trying to grift this community, he shitposts and spams e-celebs in here every day and is a nasty snake, avoid.
>>555569902Just post in /gedg/ instead. We fight but nobody will try to doxx you and ruin your life.
I'm planning to have environmental interactions with things like walls but i do want open levels how to balance this? should i give the player a mechanic to create walls or would that feel too convoluted?
>>555570358Post game?
>>555566228I also have Alien Isolation on mine for that long. it has gone down to 1 buck but I missed that sale, so I'm waiting for it to go that low again.
>>555569464
>>555570489>>555570649Staring to get it>>555570526heard>>555570661I don't really care about getting doxxed but I am curious. I'd like to enter the gamejam and the page made it look really fun, but browsing a couple of these threads has me wondering wtf exactly is happening behind the scenes of this thing.>>555570813I will for the jam probably
you know who warned us about betz? fygoonlife keeps proving fygoon right huh
>>555571024>probablynodev
>>555571063he was right all along
>>555571024>what is happening behind the scenes of this thingListen real close new fish. You don't go asking those kind of questions around here. Betz is the one who will ask the questions. And you better have a good answer for that one question, that single question. "Why."
>>555571024/agdg/ is full of unironic schizos, you'll get used to itMost of us just ignore it and make gameShitposters are gonna wallow in their shit, that's what they do best
>>555571063Fygoon already spent ages in the discord with betz he already knew he was a shitposting nodev power mongerer lol Fygoon might be autistic but he's not retarded. And being a 'tist he is probably hyper sensitive to bully types, including passive aggressive bullies like betz.
>making a 2D game huh?>yeah! :D >... Whymfw
>making thing huh>making the thing you want to make huh>making it the way you want to make it huh>why'sponse?
>>555570769Need more details. is this a rape game?
>>555571143See ya at the finish line, bub o7>>555571262Ok so the guy running the jam is kinda cookie and assigned himself a community """leadership""" role and is a tad bit of a bully. Makes sense. Has this guy made games?>>555571369Thank you for the voice of reason. I'd heard /vg/ is a containment board but holy cow this is impressive.
>>555571930>Has this guy made games?no. he has made videos showcases some 4chan games.
>>555571024there are a lot of pedophiles here, fyi
>Making a game without AI huh>Yeah! luddites winning!>Why?
>>555572068nigga you could say that about 4chan as a whole
>>555571930No listen up new fish you better stop asking questions. Betz doesn't run the game jam he just does all of the talking and posting about it and tells people what to do with their games and rigs the votes for the themes okay. He doesn't run it okay it's someone else.Don't make this mistake again new fish.
>>555571623>>555571895It's a good question because 2D enrages the gabencunt which means you'll have to put in twice as much effort to succeed as a 3D dev would, because gabencunt detests 2D games.
>>555571930You are Betz, it seems.
>>555543584I'm aware. It's an interesting system and they got away with a lot with very little. I already have transparent layers of different colors on top of each other for effects like fog, lighting and even a slight hue change per level.
>>555572095the pedophiles more or less run agdg
>>555571895>remove discord>uninstall game engine>watch anime
>>555572340the discord yeah, agdg? no, kannadev gets death threats all the time
>>555571930He isn't perfect but rumors of his bullying are very overblownThe dev he "bullied" doesn't even think he was bulliedThis is like when white people stick up for minorities who never asked them to stick up for them in the first place>>555572183>"Betz could be here" he thought "I hate Betz"
>>555572221>>555572340Speak of the devil and he shall appear
>>555572446yet kannadev and other pedophiles are loved by the itch demo day organizers
>>555569902agdg has a long history but in short --disregard what everyone is saying, just do whatever you wantI'm plastered all over demodays and have never been harassed from it despite being popular now, many other popular devs have hung out here or still hang out here and don't get problems from /agdg/just don't feed the trolls and nodevs and post progress and we'll love you (except for the crabs but ignore the crabs, again, they can't and won't hurt you)
Osh got bullied. End of discussion.
>>555572612flyknight and yomi hustle got success after abandoning this placeany new games that stayed agdg and got big success, patreon not included?
you guys keep talking about Osh but where can I see his game?I want to actually judge if this 2D shit is really that horrible or not
>>555572758a327ex still posts here >SNKRX Very Positive (4,181)
>>555572754I don't know, and I don't care, but not recognizing 2.5D and whining about it is envious loser-tier behavior.
>>555572882https://oshmakesgames.itch.io/ellie-and-osh-demo
>>555572472>This is like when white people stick up for minorities who never asked them to stick up for them in the first placeOsh is a fellow gamedev which is why fellow gamedevs in the discord had to step in for him and say we like the 2D head on the 3D body. Nice attempt at gaslighting though, racist.
I need to start making money with my gamedev.
>>5555729025 years old, and the price is so low you might want to divide by 5 or 10
>>555572943Why the hell is his head 2D?
>>555572913Oh he recognized it. He wanted Osh to change it is all so he went about it the most passive aggressive mean girl weirdo way as possible. He even told Osh to change the hair and animate it too and Osh was like "umm it already is animated" lmao.
>>555573082Who care about money? He got players
yall ni99as WILIN frfr no cap dead on GOD this shi uncouth bruh gotDAMN
>>555573136>>555570324
>>555572758YOMI dev was here the whole time, so that proves otherwise.It's just people don't like to post currently active and successful games because that aggravates the crabs. Some still do, or they're more subtle about it. YOMI dev was posting a different project therefore.
>>555573136You have seen this game for years and had the nerve to act like you just noticed it was sprite based. How are you not embarrassed acting like that. You really think everyone is stupid. Don't forget betz, we actually make games. You're not smarter than us.
>My Friend Pedro: over 1 million units>Shotgun Copman: 11k unitsBRUTAL decline for the dev
>>555572573>itch demo day organizersthat's the liqcord and yes they're pedos, squareanon is literally a mod, they dont even post here anymore outside of reddit day
>>555573082still estimated revenue is 400k usd (Boxleiter method)
>>555572902Yeah, but he left after getting called out for his perverted sex blog
>>555572943okay, now that I've tried it I can judgeBetz is tripping, this looks pretty good
>>555573291>game shown at E3 vs game not shown anywhere notable
>>555573291>My Friend Pedro: over 1 million unitsZukjeet's gonna freak about this one
>>555573220>YOMI dev was here the whole time, so that proves otherwise.post an archive link to the most recent 4chan agdg yomi hustle post by ivysly
>>555573406he left for that? nah
>>555573447Both published by Devolver
>>555573338Gross or net?
>>555572221The 15 color limit per sprite is fun to work. It's less to handle when drawing, but also does limit crazy palette swaps. It has it's ups and downs.
>>555573430Exactly. He literally wants people to remove the SOVL from their game by using AI and destroying unique SOULFUL elements like 2.5D heads and stuff. Look at how v3 operates. Is it on a winning trajectory?Then ask yourself if Betz as a nodev should really be telling people what to do with their creative works.
>>555573406I don't think he cares he's been pretty public about liking twinks
>>555558094>narrative>simulation>horror>rpg>idlegamers yearn for escapismrecession indicator
>>555573513KEKYPOW
>>555573529this was about 3~4 years ago I'm not trawling through the archives for that
>He literally wants people to remove the SOVL from their game by using AI*awkward glance at bokube*
>>555573338true, that game is still old though, without new games
Hello /agdg/,We at /v/3 are humbly asking one final time for you to vote for a modifier for our World Famous Game Jam.Yesterday the winner was lootboxes by a whopping 80 votes. 80 is a big number, but it's not as big as 100, which is the amount of money you could win in this jam.Today you will be voting on:>Quick Time Events>Magic Meter>Educational ContentVOTE HERE: https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQdwW3gdJAM LINK: https://itch.io/jam/v3jamThis is the final day of voting, the jam itself starts on Sunday. Hope to see you there!
reminder that the peripeteia dev is a cuntfaggot who EXPLICITLY promised that he'd be still posting here even after releasing his game.instead he ran like a bitch and never came back and has his tranny discord shill the game on /v/ on retainer. he never even dropped keys here, the cunt.this is why you don't trust /agdg/ devs.
>>555573863Notice how the bottom of this looks like it's on fire. And the shaded awning on top looks like smoke. A bad omen. We should pray for the devs who will undergo this trial.
>>555573863mind explaining why you spam e-celebs in here all day and attacked our nigga OSH for no reason? fygoon was right about you
>>555573575gross. so net is about $3.50
>>555573943>dev makes it>laters agdg foreverUltra based.
>>555573943He had a mental breakdown when people kept posting "looks transcoded" at his progress and crashed out on a signalis translesbian fanartist on his discord which led to bad PR and left /agdg/, it's understandable.
>>555573943I won't leave after releasing my game but if I make my own community for my game I will simply have to be more present in it to moderate it and whatnot
>>555573850so no proof that ivysly stuck around, and he didn't submit yomi hustle to demo dayhttps://ivysly.itch.io/your-only-move-is-hustle shows no demo dayhttps://ivysly.itch.io/rocketsword does show demo dayyou're wrong, plain and simple
>>555573943Are you peri-dev?
>>555574286>demoday 40well there you goYOMI was in development at the same time as rocket sword iirc or am I remembering wrong? The date of demoday 40 (so a, DEMO) is only a year before the steam release of YOMI
>>555573553shotgun man just looks like a generic flash game and pedro is 3d and looks hype as fuck.
>>555574506thank you for your concession
>>555574286>>555574506What point is there to stick around after you've made it, only value would be to lord your success over others or start an online scam course
>>555574730he didn't stick around before success, faggot, didn't submit yomi hustle to even one demo dayagdg might have changed, and it seems to be the case that chances of success might decrease if participating here, bigger yesdevs seem to shun this place now
>>555574967>didn't submit yomi hustle to even one demo dayIs demo day the only way you can participate in agdg?
>>555574186Is that why he's so adamant to convince everyone on /v/ that his game isn't tranny and has his discord fags constantly scour the board for any mention of Peripeteia to do potential damage control?
>>555574721thanks for proving you haven't developed a game before
>>555574131>uses /agdg/ to shill his kickstarter (before steam release) and to promote his game>doesn't pay back anything at all and just leavesHe also fucked over multiple devs from here making "slavic doomcore" or immersive sim games by pretending that it was a place that they could help in, when in reality he just used it to blacklist all his competitors by the e-celebs he got hold of.He literally sabotaged fellow /agdg/ devs out of pettiness.
>>555575419holy based
>>555575710If you think this is "based" then you deserve the current state of /agdg/, and most likely are part of the problem.
>>555573943I never even remember peripeteia dev posting here despite everyone talking about it so who caresactual whodev
>>555574730I have not "made it" by any stretch of the phrase but if I did I wouldn't leave unless I was facing backlash from a publisher or something. The feedback I get from DDs and from thead posts is too valuable.
Which modifier is Osh voting for?
>>555576000Newfag
some chibi refining todayi finally pushed through doing some productive even if its just an hour.
Friends, We are facing a literacy emergency. If you walk outside right now and ask a random adult what the Ship of Theseus is, they will panic. They will think it is a Greek restaurant run by illegal Mexicans. They will tell you they are late for something and hurry off with a red face. This is the society we have built. Educational Content is not about making this jam boring. It is about weaponizing knowledge. It is about forcing people to learn what etymology means while they open a lootbox to mouth-made SFX. It is about discovering a logical fallacy by accident and then immediately dying. This is immersive education. This is how you reach people. Without Educational Content, we are just making noise. With Educational Content, we are doing public service. Vote Educational Content. For literacy. For philosophy. For the unnamed future generations who deserve to know what a fallacy is. Thank you for your cooperation.
>>555573943One less troon in the thread. Why do you care that a fagposter isn't here shitting up the place, especially if you don't "trust" them? Schizos will look for anything to bitch about
>>555576209>the Ship of TheseuIf this is the barometer for knowledge you're barking up the wrong tree
>>555576142Was peripetia in development for 10 years and they stopped posting after 5 or what? in which case, sure, I'm a newfag for not recognizing them
>>555576209If every shitposting nodev fag in agdg is replaced by an identical mentally ill freak, is it the same thread?..
>>555576340because he was among the key figures in the enshitification of /agdg/
>>555576000He posted here all the way up to launch. I remember not long before launch, or maybe after? discussing the texture filtering with the dev
>>555576587were they a discordfag? because I don't post in there muchmaybe they just appeared for one of the times I wasn't looking at /agdg/ as much
>>555576346I was with my friends last night and one of us brought up the Ship of Theseus.Two grown men had never heard of it.That radicalized me.We must take action as game developers to raise the tide of knowledge in the world.In your brain is a wealth of knowledge. I am asking that your pour that knowledge into the chalice of your game so gamers may sip from your font of wisdom.Vote educational content.
>>555576184chibi... that's a word that went out of fashion sadly.
>>555575191Probably I mean he had a really funny crashout https://x.com/Cugu00/status/1984032563053392026
>>555576647I don't use the discord so idkhe posted here a decent amount, other memories are showing off guns, the inventory/UI refinement, lots more guns. rooms full of guns.
>>555576768>In your brain is a wealth of knowledge. I am asking that your pour that knowledge into the chalice of your game so gamers may sip from your font of wisdom.Please tell me you actually wrote this and not AI, this line is fucking raw.
I will make an educational game only if I start getting money for making one
>>555576797ouroboros is shodanon?
>>555577037The jam has a $100 prize for the winner
What do you personally think is more interesting as a concept?Grinding for experience, and progressing through level increases, representing the player's character becoming stronger? Such as grinding strength in Old School Runescape to hit for bigger damage, or grinding hours in a fighting game to improve your base level of personal skill.Or grinding for resources, and progress through the acquisition of new tools, weapons, or items, with the player character remaining the same latent strength, with their new tools providing them power? Such as grinding for gold in World of Warcraft, so you can buy strong weapons and armor, or grinding a real life job to get more money and buy better gaming equipment?
>>555575862There's only so many ways these types of things play out and what happens all of the time is as soon as a bunch of autists congregate someone who failed to climb the social ladder will see this and insert themselves as an organizer, someone that "will make it happen". And this person isn't motivated by the love of the game or have an genuine interest or skill, maybe they had once but they grew out of it once it was time to enter normal society.I like to call this person The Retailer, because that's usually where he ends up, in retail or sales. The Retailer will be the one constantly shilling, trying to "motivate" people into taking on projects for selfish reasons, sometimes it's to win over a girl and other times it's just to make money. Over time the autists will become less wary of The Retailer, but soon others who wish to join the community see him as the leader. The Retailer will take advantage of this to form a clique or inner circle where they mostly gossip about other members of the community, they will also exert a holier than thou attitude towards anyone that doesn't pay their respects or chooses not to associate.Meanwhile the autists toil and do their own thing in their little corner but what has happened over time is that the main draw, the essence of the community has been usurped by this inner circle. To outsiders it looks as though that inner circle of friends is the entire community, there's no reason for the autists to stick around so they'll usually leave or keep in touch with one or two people.I have Retail Snake in my niche hobbies fatigue, miss me with that gay shit.
>>555577094They pay you after you've made the game not before
>>555577207neither. grinding my muscle memory to get better.
>>555576886Weird. I remember everyone else so I don't know how that dev got themselves memoryholed.I miss the weekly progress bot. I still remember some of the weekly progress posters like that guy with the tank game.
>>555577207They're the same
>>555577074nah shodanon is a different dev, multiple people worked on peripeteiaouroboros is the tranny faggot of the team and the one having crashouts on /v/ when someone calls out his shilling
>my AI told me my scope is too big
>>555577207the first is simpler and requires less player involvement and just makes natural sensethe second requires a lot of effort and systems and teaching the player how it works etc etcthey aren't comparable
>>555576575So you want him back? You don't like the troon we get it but why are you bitching that they left if they make the thread worse.
>>555577207experience all day
