Previous: >>556658554>What... is this?Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ>Where can I watch the cup?https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html>Ongoing Cuphttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4chan_Winter_Cup>Upcoming Invitationalshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_3rd:_Admins_of_the_Frozen_Thronehttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/VGL_Luigi_Circuit_4https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/VGL_Ladies_Night_3:_The_Squidstein_Fileshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Test_Cup_V_18.1https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4CC_Champions_Leaguehttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9/11:_Never_Forget>Wiki:https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page>Sekkrit Code37pebis>DLC Passworddivegrass>Booruhttps://isthisliv.com/booru/>Archivehttps://implying.fun/>Other videoshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos>PES Infohttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2021>PreviouslyDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESUDESU
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C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
Don't think for one second that I'm not going to take my lumps despite the winner. I will open First Bait with an address to you guys and the cup managers regarding decisions and the actions going forward. No crimson or blinky for the opening statement, just me. And I know you guys have a lot of half empty sodas and beer bottles to chuck at me. And I wouldn't let you guys miss the opportunity to throw them. I know that as commissioner my decisions are subject to complaints, roasts, and incredibly weighty insults. And I would be not only a coward but a faggot if I didn't let you guys get your shots in.
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>>556772542YOU MOTHERFUCKER DESU ASSASSINS WILL COME FOR YOU
>>556772561Why are you tripping?
check em
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>>556772682Because I am the commissioner man, I never take it off in /4ccg/
>>556772561>I will open First Bait with an address to you guys and the cup managers regarding decisionsWhy, so that you can announce the decision and refuse to hear any counterarguments Lear-style?
>>556772561would you make me a sandwich
>>556772561Is this going on now
auties doko
>>556773020Once the stream rolls out and my end of the bargain to host FB tonight starts.
>>556772750post tits or gtfo
>>556772561wtf a serious sou post?shit must be bad
>>556772561Let /trash/ play in Spring.
>>556752118You have zero voice in this Alex, this does not make you more likeable than /pw/
>>556772561idk what the point of this is since you've already announced another cycle of tournaments on this garbage
>>556773483Bro out here with a random namedrop on a post from 4 hours ago
>>556773483too coherent to be him
ASS Rentry?
>>556773483alex has never made a readable post like that in his life
>>556773438*Sick Bassline*>>556773278Look, I know /b/ winning is a great pressure valve release but there's still stuff that should get talked about. Because I aint gonna lie, this is the first cup I've been at the helm for where I legitimately felt the heat, and I don't think I should let those embers smolder for too long.
>>556773878rentrysoup was murdered by aoba
>>556773935Hey Weedman first time watcher long time questioner. Would 15 have been salvageable if /pw/ didn't exist? I'll hang up and listen.
>>556772561Ok, but also say it in Spanish
>>556773935When /wsg/ saved us all from the three star menace briefly with that amazing cup saving 9/11 goal, it was the greatest pressure release since the fappening.But we didn't fucking stay on that silly +10 bufflet strikers for another cup, did we now
>>556772561Okay, but call it "First Fug" instead
>>556773813I think he meant to post this >>556753286 instead
>>556774198needs a bit more typos but i can see that
>>556774161I have to agree that /u/ getting memed on did not salvage PES16 in any way, any more than /mlp/ dying in autumn makes 15 good
I raped rentrysoup too hard and rentrysoup passed away. Sorry!
>>556773935Uhhhh I heard evil you say on garbage day that /trash/ would be allowed to play.You still owe us for no /trash/ match this and previous cup.
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RENTRYSOUP, WHERE'S THE FUCKING ASS RENTRY YOU STUPID FAGGOT TRANNOID?
Will losing 5-1 convince /pw/ that they should be more offensive?
>>556774862Yes. They will lose their next final 10-2
>>556774862No they will end up doubling down by going 6 ATB
>>556774970Basically were a 7ATB so that's actually more offensive
>>556773935I like keepers being goodConsidering how many people hate this PES you probably need to do something about it tho
>>556775886The keepers aren't even that good it is the strikers that are bad if you mess with the keepers you might create another problem
auties doko?
>>>/b/945763890
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>>556772561I missed wrasslin on friday, you should rerun the semis and final with table matches
Nothing about the rules so far?
Still trying to decide if it was worth it. Like 2nd is good, but you lost so hard that nobody will remember any good from it. And you made everyone hate the team and management, a sentiment that will likely last for multiple cycles. But it's still 2nd, but that's not winning.
>>556773935Eh. I think it's more about people figuring out that parking the bus does wonders with this version of PES and if we would have to replay the final, maybe /pw/'s tikitaka bullshit would have prevailed instead of the blowout we got.Don't make such a big drama about this. We survived 1.12, we'll survive this shit. You guys will just have to mess around with PES, switch versions maybe and keep on moving.People forget shit like 1.12, or when /trv/ was an unstoppable machine in PES14 because Mauled hit gold by pure fucking accident and rolled with it.PES does PES things or Dragongate, or any The Cull, or any other drama we've been through. This isn't the first cup's shit rodeo and not even the worst by a fucking nautical mile. We'll move on, keep it simple.
>>556777675Frist Fug hasn't started just yet
First Fug :DDDDD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4csVSblqLE
>>556773935Sou what is with you an writing these elite scripts where likable underdogs play hero ball and win against big time heels, first Summer 24 now Winter 26. Who will be next? /xs/? /g/? maybe /bant/?
>>556779079FB, Winter 26 Final Day(For easy searching in the archive)
>The PES is salvageable because of one (uno) singular match where the bad guys finally lost. Ignore everything else that came before the final.FB already starting off grim.
>>556774862hopefully./pw/ is in their seth rollins arc and are not cool
>>556779751So far only Boris openly said that, even Sou is more wishy washy about this now
>>556779751no, dont you get it? the 80+ games that were pure, putrid sewage don't matter because the LAST one had the right outcome! It just makes sense because.... Because, you CHUD!
Did this cup have a credit scene?
>>556780008Yes
>>556779985I am a chud. I'm a sexless, loser, virgin incel. I dont know the intricate tactics of PES 15. Millions of games must be tested. billions
[First Fug Quote]"I can't believe the doll saved PES15" -Dollson
>>556779751ignore all the shit 15 matches, and just focus on final day
>>556780293Ok. It was ass except for a couple memorable goal moments.
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>>556779751Alright I don't think I need to listen to the next 3 hours. One last thing >>556773935 you are a fucking retard.
>>556780806I'm pretty sure only Boris said that, Weedman understands there are concerns and said the reception has been mixed at best
>>556781170/4ccg/ needs to learn how to accept an apology, even if it comes from a retarded weedman
>>556778957someone else save this as the logo for the next elite final boss
>sou's thinks that the /vst/ stat autism might be fruitful, testing will start next weekend
POST THE GOOGLE DOCS RESULTS NOW
>>556782651I like that idea in theory but it gives an immediate advantage to the massive testing groups, even more than they have now
>>556782848big testing groups regularly submit supbar exports
>>556780008Yes and it was soulful. Felt short though compared to others recently
[First Fug News]Crimson hates /pw/ more than /mlp/
>>556782943That was because of the music selection, I was always hot on the HBO Boxing ending theme, even if it was only 3:30. Normally the credits song is around 4-5 minutes. But that tune was too good to not use for the /sp/ hosted cup.
See you guys next cup
>>556783125Good luck 103
>>556782971>/pw/ turning face right after being heel the entire winter cup/pw/ is becoming the BEEG show of the cup
>>556782971Me too. Well for now, give it a year and it'll go back to how it should be.
We NEED 1.12
>>556782971I will root for /pw/ now.
[Blinky news] Blinky has been testing for /mlp/ which is why they are so shit
>>556783658Good evening 47, for this mission your objective is to assassinate a certain inbred British persons PES installation. They will be busy testing an autistic football tournament and will be in one place and distracted giving you opportunity for multiple ways to stop it. I'll leave you to prepare.
>>556783125Thanks for the artwork as always, you're one of my favorite anons in here.t. /vm/ manager. All your shit is on our wiki.
Boris: 8/10 cupCrimson: Worse cup than Spring 19
[WORST CUP NEWS] Crimson thinks Winter 26 was worse than Spring 19
[Grim News] Everyone on FB besides Crimson thinks 15 should still be given a chance
Spring 19 was fun
why would you think spring 19 was bad aside from the lack of aesthetics?
>>556784159Shit team won it and not enough goals. You want a fulvo cup? Watch Spring 19 with the midfield circlejerk.
>>556784159What if /pw/ was a cup
>burgers with ADHD need the funny goal machine sounds every minuteCope and stay mad faggots and give 18 a chance
[Aesco News] Shakes and Foreground disagree about coming back to 15 in the future
>>556784159The gameplay was very bad for both managers and viewers, it was incredibly slurpy with many low scoring draws.
[Aesco News] 18 never ever or we all quit again.
>>556783996worst cup ever was summer 20
>>556784403We did give 18 a chance. It fucking sucked.
B...but I want my PROPAH FOOTIE
>>556784403>>556784556There's a test cup for 18 in 6 weeks
>>556784663THEN GO WATCH PROPAH FOOTIE INSTEAD OF THE CUP YOU FUCKING FOOTBALL ACADEMY DROPOUT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>556784523Maybe /aesco/ is not so bad after all.
[Manager News] Sou will join /vg/ management
>>556784282Propah footy
[Rules News] /admin/ considering banning 3 or more DMFs
>Sou: "You shouldn't fault a manager for wanting to win"That sail has long since ship it's not going to work like that
/pw/'s tactic was the most Sou has ever seen a team slurp in all his years of divegrass
>>556785196He followed that by saying this is a memefest and teams running ultra anti-football aren't doing it right
>>556785413Ban 3 DMFs and ban 7 players forward and then will you have solved the ultra anti-football menace
[First Boom News]Hour long of pointless arguing about PES and no box in sight yet
[BIG Italian News] /admin/ highly considering patching 15[Known Rules News] Next cycle is GSSBB
Boris doesn't understand why people didn't like the cup
>Boris is the only one who really likes winter 26what do we call this
[Your mom news] she's still fat as fuck
[BBC 4cc News] Blinky really loves shotas, especially if they're black!
[Crimson News] He is straight (allegedly)
I don't like how FB leaves /4ccg/ voiceless. I will now stop watching.
>>556785973Maybe (You) would like Winter '26 too if you were going blind.
>>556785973>guy who can't see is the only one who enjoyed itthe jokes write themselves
STOP TALKING ABOUT COMMENTATORS AND GET TO THE POLLS OH MY GOD NO ONE CARES
>>556785973It's the same guy who suggested three medals
>>556786897If you BEE the change and commentate there would be no talking about needing commentators
>>556787014If I did that then they would be spending all this time talking about how cool it is that they got new commentators. I don't give a fuck! Why does FB and ASS spend 45 minutes every post-cup show talking about commentators NO ONE CARES FUCK
What's the average age of /admin/ members / commentators?
>>55678715239
>>556787134They said they were moving on and then that random guy started talking about commentators again FUCK OFF
>>55678715250
Stop using Two Steps from HellUse something else aside from TheB ook
>>556787802But I like TSFH and theb Ook.
[Hype News] Boris DEMANDS /vg/ do all the work themselves for Spring, threatening them with Blinky if they don't
>>556788043A fate worse than death
>>556785142>team that can only go to PKs They are still looking at the most retarded solutions for things that aren't really a problem.>>556785413He doesn't get it.>>556785279He literally submitted that /mgg/ auto the last VGL. Come on now nigger.
>>556788172Exactly, you'd have to be retarded to want to copy this /pw/, it was never a strong side and PKs are a literal coinflip.
>>556788172/mggg/ was not as awful to watch as /pw/
>>556788362Get the fuck out. It was abhorrent.
>600 viewers>100 responsesyeah, the majority just catch the stream and leave
>>556788726BASED
>>55678886360% of votes are 5 or lower, and 40% of votes are 6 or higher
>>556788863"""mixed"" results
>>556788960There are also much more ratings at 1 and 2 (25%) compared to 9 and 10 (3%).
[KWABSON NEWS] He rather play videogames than read our feedback
>>556788738>elite final>600 viewersholy grim
>>556788863The next cup is going to be 15 again isn't it?
>>556789134nyes
>>556779239>maybe /bant/?ELITE AND MUSCULAR /bant/ winning the /b/ cup would be pretty funny, let's do this.
>>556789134'fraid so
>>55678872616GODS
>>556789134'd 'o
>>556789134sou is going to stream monday football with different rules / patches and if it still sucks by friendlies time they'll switch to 16 for spring
>>556789676So 15 is confirmed for Spring. Got it.
>>556789676Again with his bullshit.
>>556779239/aco/ is coming back with a vengeance next summer. Be ready. :^)
>>556789862>SummerSummer 27?
>>556789676we just had a cycle where that failed
>>556788726No absolute majority achieved, we shall go with 21.
>>556789987I was informed the summer cup was in 6 months. That wrong?
>>556790151Next summer is 27, the proper way to say it is THIS Summer.
>>556790029Anything but 15, for the love of God.
>>556790261Oh, gtfo grammarfag. You know what I meant.
>>556790370fine speech
>>556790542Gracias, yo speako mucho bueno
15 had goals that will never happen in a later pes. No one will remember the 100 throughballs in 16 or 19, but everyone will remember that flick into a volley.
>>55679118315 is truly the POTENTIAL PES
You guys aren't ready for the /pw/ faceturn in Summer where Groudon takes over and they score 50 goals
You guys aren't ready for the /gig/ faceturn in VGL26 where Groudon takes over and they score 50 goals
>>556791648>>556791510my fuarking hero
[Shit News] Box is starting[Alzheimers News] I forgot to submit this I capped earlier today.
>>556792848Where link to box?
>>556792914https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WDEXuqmc89tfn1LbO5PB1HkVw8JZkcyEaZQC1UovQqY/edit?usp=sharing
>>556791183Name 10
>>556792970where's the next chapter of the breeder saga?
>>556793030Jackie Chan
A fun thing to think about is how long the stink of this run will follow /pw/. At the moment it seems to have overwhelmed everyone's opinions of /pw/ negatively. The closest example to something like their run was /gsg/ in the VGL and that stink never left them, serving as a permanent example of a single team making a cup bad to watch. Unlike /gsg/ though, /pw/ will have plenty of time to throw that reputation off them. This cup might always be a mark on their record, especially how it ended, but maybe a few cups of old fun /pw/ will reverse all the opinions back to the positive. Or maybe they'll be like this until the end of time and everyone will hate interacting with the team who knows.
>>556794367I hated /pw/ before it was cool
>>556794367You hate /pw/ because they're slurpers, I hate /pw/ because of how unfair they were to joshifags. We are not the same
>>556795089Well you like joshis so your opinion doesn't matter go fuck yourself
>>556785973It was fun.
>>556795089Based, joshiniggers get the rope
>>556795224>>556795375I don't watch women's wrestling nigga I just think teams should represent their boards, managers deciding that a massive portion of the board shouldn't get a spot on the team for no reason is gay. Sue me
>>556793030I can't name 5 goals from pes 16, let alone 10
I hated /pw/ because of /pw/ brainrot spam
>>556795643Care to extrapolate?
>>556795643Worked into a shoot
>>556795447Okay; Your Honor: the management held a board vote, when /asp/ died mind you, that asked if ">Women's >>>>>Wrestling" should be allowed back onto the team, and it got voted against.
>FB starts the box sooner>but the FB box is much lower qualityI dunno how to feel about this
>>556795936Nobody cares anymore to drop funny stuff in those
>>556795762>ban women's wrestling from the team>women's wrestling fans stop following the team>have poll of fans who remain>"See, /pw/ fans don't want joshis on the team!">women's wrestling continue to have the most active threads on the boardMasterful gambit sir
>>556796046The thousands of joshi fans out there
>>556796046You had me until you said "women's wrestling fans"
>>556796046>ban women's wrestling from the team/pw/ face turn
>>556792970>629 submissions>300 of them are linksI'm going to bed.
>>556796374they did that at their inception which is why they now took a heelturn
>>556796137>>556796192>>556796374Hey what's that above the final day cup thread?
Rankings update?
>>556796660We get it you want to bring /s/ into /pw/Please BEE instead.
>>5567966611. /b/2. Seattle Seahawks3. Los Angeles Rams4. /sp/5. /wsg/6. Denver Broncos7. New England Patriots8. /pw/
>Winter was such low dimes that the Koreans have summarised the entire final day in two sentences in a Luigi Circuit post.
>>556797101Not like the games were any good so they didn't have anything to talk about. What final day team would they even care about, /a/?
>>556796931>Rams 3rdI"ll take it
>>556796660Some random 3DPD, don't care, revive /s/ or kill yourself
>>556796895>>556797613>oy vey, /4ccg/ knows we're a joshi board, deploy the /s/ allegationsYou'd think a general that loves to doompost about viewership would want teams to represent the largest section of their board
>>556798304No I don't, I want you to revive /s/ or fuck off nigga
>>556797613FREE MY SLUT /s/
>>556798304KPop on /mu/ when?Diaper and brap on /aco/ when? AI on /d/ when?Multiple AI on /g/ when?
>>556798652>KPop on /mu/ when?Kpop is by such a wide margin the majority of /mu/ traffic it's insane, but the 4cc has a largely unspoken rule that boards don't need to represent the boards as they are, but as they're remembered as being. Maybe that's alright, but if that's the case, what's the point of POI? >You need to prove that you have fans that are a decade oldWhy are we surprised newer 4chan users don't care about the cup?
i would prefer 17 over 15 and 16 tee bee haitch
>>556799095Kpop followed by boards refusing AI are the biggest offenders of teams not representing their boards.
QRD of this >>556773935 >>556772561
>>556800001"I need to lock in" - OldManSou, 2026
>I got the first and last posts of the boxNeat
>>556800001*sick bassline* is posted in response to people requesting /trash/ getting a team, a reference to the 1990s sitcom "Seinfeld"
>>556800001Sou will hold test days on Feb 9,16,23 and Mar 2. After these, he will make an executive decision if the tried changes have sufficiently improved gameplay. If not, he'll make a choice between moving to 16 or 17 for the next cycle.
[Shitpostbox news] 4ccg wants Crimson to be commissioner
>>556800314We will call him commissioner rapedson.
>>556800314Would be extremely funny.
>>556800314Would that help lead him into quitting the cup once and for all
>9
>>556800238Fiddling with stats on PES15 is a straight up a waste of time. You make gold less than 99? The strikers are going to miss more (people put golds in strikers' positions 99% of the time). Make CBs better? Then you could enforce more the /pw/ tactics. 5 medals? The current formations are going to be better. Use that stat autism that I saw from that anon from here? I don't see how making some stats significantly lower would result in better matches, honestly. Especially when in current stats you have loads of fulvo moments. Most teams run with the idea: "Let's make sure that 2–3 players upfront (basically their medals) get fed the ball so we have a better chance of scoring." Basically, no matter what you do for PES15, there's no winning. You are always in danger of making it worse. Your best bet is some fanmade patch or shelving it and resurrecting it for a grim reminder cup out of nowhere.
>>556806546people said the same about 16, 18 and 21
https://litter.catbox.moe/g7wdrx704k0puxs7.mp3
>>55680928921? Not a good case. Even with the immense stat autism it seems like that /vt/league aren't that happy at all. And before that, people mostly resorted to fanmade patches to fix it.16? 16 The solution was always there, nerfing gold medals, but for some reason, the admin never wanted to pull that trigger.18? It's the only time when adjusting stats actually did something.But with 15, complete different story and all it takes is to watch a few matches to understand it. Hell, even nerfing the keepers on 15 could be dangerous and just open the door to goalfests.
It was a decent enough cup, don't care what angry managers have to say.
I'm not testing for another millisecond on 15 or fucking 16 for that matter
>>556809795We don't need testing.
>>556800238Holy fuck just move off PES 15 why the fuck are you still trying so fucking hard?Just move the fuck on. What is it about this PES that makes them want to try so hard on it?
>>556796046>>women's wrestling continue to have the most active threads on the boardLet me guess, it's the same reason vtubers are popular?
>>556812180we're out of new PESes and the realistic alternatives are endless 17 or 19I predict 16 will get a single babby and elite before people are demanding to move off it too
>>556812456Ok well this alternative is certified garbage, why are we still trying?
>>556812456>the realistic alternatives are endless 17 or 19We also have 18 and 21 althoughever
>>556812456eFutbol when!
I love fucking with this loser.
port gameplay football to godotsimple as
>>556812456Isn't 20 technically available?
The only thing more powerful than hate is love
>>556812456>we have to squeeze everything out of every PES we have!>which is why we're going to attempt patching 15isms out of PES 15 instead of cutting are losses and modifying other versions insteadUh-huh
>>556816293Nuke Sicily
>>556816293you're not wrong, there's a lot of sunk cost fallacy in this cup cycle (We modified 15! it cost us effort! We need to use it!)
Crimson in autumn 15:>What the fuck are you going on about it looks worse than other versions? It's the same models being loaded! You're retarded!Crimson when /v/ get exposed:>Wow a lot of the high quality models have issues with 15 specifcially and we need to look out for /aesco/ to avoid another PES18 momentopick one nigga
>>556816787those statements aren't as contradictory as you think
>>556809603vtl nigga here, i'm fine with the current state of pes21, i'll have stronger opinions after a league on it though
QD on if the vglco has considered 15>we did and it's not entirely off the table in the far future for a special occasion>i think looking at one team doing something annoying that's happened on other peses in one cup and also the opinion of the loudest bitchiest south american as evidence of a pes being purely unusuable and awful for every single person in the audience, especially a mostly entirely different audience, is pretty ridiculousPut me out of misery, bros
>>556809603>seems like that /vt/league aren't that happy at all.Where'd you get that impression?
>>556817647>everyone complaining about 15 is just one persondid he miss the part when there were multiple people complaining about it?
Why do people hate 15 again? It's just 16 but better. Not great by any means but it at the very least clears 16 in quality.
>>556817647I know that he didn't watch the cup, but he could've at least looked at, you know, the viewer poll about 15
>>556817647QD's one south american vs kwabson's VGL brigader, which was the most raped?
is it true kevin nash got raped by a doll?
Free my nigga /fa/.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FUc2tqod_Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn14tl3Z-xo
>>556819739whatever happened to the superb /fa/ redesign concept?
>>556817647>looking at one team doing something annoyingGentelmen, short view back to the past. Five months ago anonymous told us. "look at what /fit/ did on this PES 10 years ago and tell me if you want to play on this version." Thirty minutes later /admin/ told us "This is modern 4cc and teams would never let someone just wall the net and slurpball for 90 minutes." And Crimson said during the FB, I don't remember what FB, that he likes playing with dolls. Question for you both: are you still going to pretend that /pw/ was the problem and not the most noticeable symptom?
>>556819739This would be a good /u/ vs /fa/ hyp video.
>>556818474Any opinion that comes from Autistic Argie No. 1 (Laventale) should be ignored by default
>>556819893Based /f1/poster
>/b/ wonbased
>>556796660By that logic /b/'s team should be 60% twitch and kick gossip, 30% ai porn and 10% celeb gossipDo you really want Clavicular getting frame mogged by an ASU frat leader as the host for Summer?
>>556819893I mean even without /pw/, it'd have still remembered as the "fulvo pes".
>>556820421The rabbit and tiger are the only hot ones. The others look like trannies.
>>556820598Maybe, but outside of /pw/ overdoing it I didn't find it annoying.
>this is fulvo in the simpleton's mind
>>556821573You didn't watch the games
>>556821573>wow, this PES allows teams to run up score on bad autopilots? 12 more months of PES15!
>>556821985Oh, look, PES 16 scorelines.
>>556821985I would consider it a minor positive that bad teams get consistently put down by good teams so that shit autos settle down to the babby, but that positive is heavily outweighed by the negative of the gameplay that happens when two good teams run into each other and the AI can't figure a way through until one side has a defensive mistake or opens itself up.
>>556822949>when two good teams run into each other and the AI can't figure a way through until one side has a defensive mistake or opens itself up.Doesn't this sound like real football? That doesn't sound like a real problem, do you want good teams to just tie everytime?
>>556820421evil esl women
>>556823412>women
>>556799095Completely agreed, if the boards have gone to shit then that change should be reflected in the team. Perhaps it might change who is a good/bad guy.
Teams should be limited to one (1) legacy medal player as their gold at most. All other players should reflect the current state of the board, prove me wrong.
If you "Don't like certain threads" on your board, then maybe you shouldn't be managing for it.
>>556825450Might be too difficult for some boards. But I wish there was more rotation, at least. So that if teams don't get much change in terms of new players, they could rotate gold melds between the existing ones.
I think /vg/ medals should be decided by which generals have the highest PPM, the only true and objective metric of thread quality
>>556812456People will be demanding the return to 17 the moment a team they don't like wins the babby
>>556825509/a/, /b/, & /v/ sure would look different by this mindset, and that's not a good thing.
>>556825676To add, this would allow for more music, as you would make medals of players that never were before and likely never had their own goal horns.
>>556825710see>>556825450
QRD on why people make fun of Suule's commentary?
>>556825710Dunno about /a/, but /b/ for sure, and likely for worse, /v/ maybe even for better, or just different. But this is subjective. But hey, if those teams wanted to "update" rosters, people would vote for that.
>>556825450That's the worst idea I've ever heard
It's time to kill bebop.
>>556826078GIVE IT BACK
>>556825450I understand where this is coming from but there's a problem, most of the shit threads on certain boards are either containment or allowed by incompetent mods who want to reduce morale or because they want the sweet traffic Hiromoot wants, those threads have nothing to do with the board nor the culture.Why would you let something like that represent your team?
>>556825974>But hey, if those teams wanted to "update" rosters, people would vote for that.No, the /4ccg/ knows better what a given board wants than the posters on said board
>>556826679I find it hard to believe that /mu/ as a board wouldn't want any kpop given 75% of board traffic is kpop. 4cc managers are just refusing to attempt to engage with potential fans.
>>556826467>Why would you let something like that represent your team?Because it's what the board currently represents? Which the team is supposed to reflect?This sounds like oldfags unable to let go of the past. Board culture changes, be it for better or worse.
>>556826679Well, you will never get rid of tension between viewers and managers/riggers.But ideally they should mostly take the votes suggestions into account.
>was supposed to be the great reset in VTLwith half the teams gone>still have about 40 signupsbased honestly
>>55682684075% of the board doesn't watch the 4cc though. And if said 75% only remain within their own generals then they are unlikely to have any input in the 4cc roster until the manager(s) explicitly reach out to them (which is what the former /jp/ manager did, and that's how we got /4ccg/ crying about them having Hololive reps for several cups).
>>556826178
>>556826846By that logic if some anons raided /a/ with videogames threads 24/7 and mods didn't do anything to stop it, would that mean the /a/ team must have videogames on their roster? (and I don't mean joke players)Some boards have more activity than others and that's why their roster changes more often, but why are you expecting this kind of change from slow boards? some raid/containment threads don't represent the board, especially ones that take advantage of the incompetent moderation.Hypothetically, any board could be whatever topic if enough shitters raided the entire site, therefore all teams would be a complete mess.
>>556827669thanks
>>556814517they are but people absolutely seethe at the mention of them for some reason.
>>556827738Don't be such a bad faith nigger. You know full well this isn't what I'm talking about.Women's wrestling isn't wrestling? Kpop isn't music? Or do you simply not like them?
>>556827349There's still like 2-3 teams that need to sign up iirc.
>>556828093I don't know about Women's wrestling but I have gone to the Kpop threads and they seem to be the same breed as vtuber discussion , just people gossiping about girls or drama and not discussing about the music at all, with threads that are faster than the entire board because they use the thread as a chatroom.I can only assume the women wrestling is more of the same.
>>556828757We're going back to Skype, bros!
>>556828757been warning you niggas for YEARS
>>556828841Nah. Staying on ‘cord- t. Saw the future
>>556828841I fucking wish...
>>556828093>Women's wrestling isn't wrestling?no >Kpop isn't music?also noWhile we're at it, webcomics also shouldn't be part of /co/ and Initial D should be considered a mecha anime
>Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adultJust play adult games instead of kiddie games, should be pretty simple
>>556828380i genuinely thought they would be lucky to get 32i guess i bought into the nastiness of /pcgia/ saying the league would die without them and nobody will sign up because all the threads left /vt/
>>556829216Because teens definitely don't play 18+ games, right
>>556829216Now I can't play Bluey...
>>556828757Return to IRC
>>556829216>Dicksword will kill the underage indog before 4chan mods get to ban himWhat a world we live in, right?
Remember to do your part and report the VGL server as being adult only so everyone there will be forced to verify their age to continue using it
>>556828841Does he know?
>>556828757>Users who aren’t verified as adults will not be able to access age-restricted servers and channels, won’t be able to speak in Discord’s livestream-like “stage” channels, and will see content filters for any content Discord detects as graphic or sensitive. They will also get warning prompts for friend requests from potentially unfamiliar users, and DMs from unfamiliar users will be automatically filtered into a separate inbox.Far as I'm concerned this only concerns gooners. Will still be able to do divegrass.
>>556829961Uh, bad news anon...
>>556829961Damn, so what >>556829810 said could be a plausible solution for the VGL?
>>556827446>75% of the board doesn't watch the 4cc though.They certainly wont if you deliberately exclude them.
shit hours
cloud
>>556830380>/pw/ cup>/b/ star ass>/a/ /sp/ fraudsI agree, random chance
>>556830272If said 75% don't care about the board outside their circlejerk generals then why should the manager should reach out to them over an event that's supposed to represent the whole board?Not only that, but it's bound to cause further issues down the line with people thinking their general(s) don't have enough weight on the roster (this is a persistent problem with some teams like /vt/ and /sp/).
>>556830551>s-some generals are ok but not the ones I hate!
>>556826467Based.
>>556830380/u/ winning kwabalternativelycrimson kwab remember blinky
>>556830551Remove generalsIgnore generals
>>556830706>when no one actually said thatIf you don't care about your board and don't care to engage in 4cc threads, you don't deserve any representation, simple as.
>>556830971>dont care to engage with some shitty stealth thread That’s 99% of 4chan
Everyone wants to talk about board representationNobody wants to see silver medal Iyo Sky
>>556829216>every PES is rated Eit's over
managers reaching out generals is a mistake /vg/ it's an exception because it's ehat the board is about
>People complain about team rosters>Porn image dump boards have teams and contribute nothing to the cup.
oh we're doing this again? cool
Look, ma, I stuffed a google poll with votes!
nice botted poll
>>556832390Now post it in the women's wrestling thread.
>>556831772That would suggest /vg/ generals aren't a mistake which is not true
>>556832390Poll them on if they want to play soul destroying tactics?
>>556832178/aco/ is way more interesting than /d/
Is there MNF today?
>>556832390You have bigger things to worry about than womemes wrestling.How are you gonna get the X-Pac heat off of the team after that terrible performance?You play awful boring ball for 8 games, then make it to the finals and embarass the team with the worst defeat in team history.
>>556830201sex
>>556832390it's bad faith to use big words like embargo on a board full of ESL kings
>>556832178I don't care what anyone says, /h/ is funny and /d/ at least does puts some effort into it's aes though the nicest thing I can say about /aco/ is that I don't think they are as bad as they used to be
>>556830380>watching defensive boris finally awful>based winner
>>556833079I can't speak for /pw/ but I once made a mistake of polling /myboard/ and asking what they want to see the team do. The "I don't care, make the team win" had over 90% replies, while nobody voted for "I want to see interesting divegrass formations"
>>556834494Isn't professional wrestling all about the spectacle?
>>556771949Thread theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_A5iTJVcHg
>>556832178Hmm, I often suggest new players for one of these teams, but they don't usually get voted in, sadly. I guess anons who vote just want to see their favorite goon characters on the pitch.
>>556833880I like the /h/ chants
>>556833345I was watching my handegg team win the Owl yesterday so I didn't have an opportunity to explain my side of That Export on FB or elsewhere but I do think addressing it in some regard is appropriate because it's the story of the cup:The initial idea was built off of watching what was successful in previous iterations and seeing that a low block was the only way of sheltering how CBs in this game have absolutely terrible lateral movement, and then pulling from classic 15 /asp/ how much of a dominant threat HA nonmedal Bork Lazer was patrolling the center and applying that to Dimes. The exchange, clearly, was a terrible viewing experience for the casual observer, but we felt it was our most reliable chance of advancement while still fielding a defense.I don't think it's a very good export at all. After the first set of PKs went our way the rest felt like house money in accepting whatever PES 15 wanted to give us, but we were not built to *not* play a ball control style of game. Switching on any sort of aggressive toggles was akin to throwing, as seen when a team finally took a lead on us in the finals and it opening the floodgates as soon as we went to frontline. It was not ran as an ebin troll to the viewer or because we love to slurp.We don't plan on doing anything to that extent like that ever again, but if you want a low block defensive setup to not do well on this PES you will have to dramatically alter what the game is.tl;dr: mr dink, we broke pes. we sorry.
>>556835101YOU SUCKYOU SUCKYOU SUCKTHIS IS AWFULTHIS IS AWFULTHIS IS AWFUL
>>556835101Fuck off retard, you're on The List
>>556835101tldr
>>556835101CHANGE THE CHANNEL CHANGE THE CHANNEL CHANGE THE CHANNEL
reminder that Prozach and Groudon are running this heartwrenching "oh woe is me" defence meanwhile Mundo cums to PES18 and tried with Gio to make the cup unwatcheable in PES21GIVE ME TAG TEAM CUP BACK YOU FUCKING FOOTBALL ACADEMY REJECT FUCK YOU
>>556835101Ok, but what did /b/ do differently? It seemed like if you can find a way to sneak in goals then these tictacs fall apart because you can easily shoot more goals to catch up.
>>556835101Illegal formations would fix everything, LB-LB-RB-RB when
>>556835514/b/ have aggressive drive from midfield and over ran /pw/.
>>556835101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbqnu0GTWUM
>>556835452>tried with Gio to make the cup unwatcheable in PES21tried? it already was
>>556835101Just have dimes and one of the nonmedal dmfs double a as cmf on a preset and switch to it if you need to actually play football.
>>556835514Straight up they just did not give a fuck and went for it. The cats were both hole players and bumrushed the midfield like >>556835615 said. /h/ might've been capable of the same if Asuka and the elf weren't as wide as they were, and in >testing /vr/ looked strongest when they had Kirby up further in their formation too
>>556835101Thank you sir, continue to be based and even-keeled, except for the handegg part, no one cares>>556835514/b/ counter-attacked effectively against /pw/ before their defensive packing could be established. /b/ also finished clinically against /pw/ defenders trying their best to either limit shooting angles or complete a tackle. I'm trying to say "/b/ got high PES rolls" without saying /b/ got high PES rolls. As far as PES 15 played in the last 64 matches, /b/ spent very little time building up and most of their time trying offenseAlso re: boards and roster polls - Polls can be accurate AND arbitrary. The spiritually "correct" memes should represent the board.
>>556835917In the dark timeline of /pw/ winning and Sou overdosing on retard juice hard enough to continue this in Spring, I was genuinely wondering if some godforsaken 4-2-4 would have to be the answer to overload that box. But I guess double hole AMF was the next best thing
>>556823193Real football is boring, people come here to watch meme divegrass.
>>556835917/h/ got suckered into letting you guys control the tempo. They waited too long to go for the attack and looked good when they did.
>>556836380That's why we need PES 16, now that's meme divegrass.
>>556836183>/b/ also finished clinically against /pw/ defenders trying their best to either limit shooting angles or complete a tackle.As opposed to the roughly 75% chance a team has to roll the match seed where their strikers just shoot at the keeper relentlessly, yeah. All the teams in Spring copying /b/ are going to be in for a ride
/h/ is better as an export to clone to be honest
>>556836667It’s proven that any old retard can run it to a final day
>>556836837if Jack did it anyone can
>>556836936If /h/ management can make back to back final days anyone can.
>>556817647>it's VGL managers>it's one South AmericanThese senile fucks are delusional. Bob already forced us into 21, might as well have another year of shit.
>>556836936thank you dr kleiner
>aoba started going through the 21 exe to figure out what all the patch variables do>immediately shows the italian was changing random shit for the worse>at the same time the merchant is already trying to make patches for 15really gets my medulla oblongata moving
>>556835101As repentance, next cup you should run a 7 niggas forward formation
>>556837314Genuinely believe the VGL is in trouble if Nomo ever completely fucks off, as crazy as it is to say
>>556837314For me it's>no you can't say this PES is bad because /pw/ did terrible warcrimes for 360 minutes, that's just one team! you can't base your entire opinion about a PES version around a single team>anyway, how about that /b/ win, they were super fun to watch and I'm sure a good representation of how 15 plays in general
I didn't watch a single second of fbwhat important things did they say?is 15 kill?
>>556837386it's an AIslop interpretation of what's in the files, tho still really useful for posterity.
Is there a tracklist for all the background music from First Fug last night?
>>556837563Nomo at least listens to the managers and fans or tries to. BoB is likely a dictator.
>>556837976Sou said he is giving it until friendlies. also,>Sou apologizes, said he took this ruleset like GB did (which if I remember correctly was just all in no lube) and didn't anticipate someone like /pw/ would do this and will test future rulesets more>16/17 were basically tied in the poll, everyone but Boris understands the mixed at best reception to 15, Boris insists winter was an 8/10 for some reason>Lots of discussion on commentators, the usual standard "please commentate our league">Crimson continues to beg people to come on FB because he's been tired of the same old Blinky and Zil show and will give you all the time in the world to talk even about /aco/ doing well if you want>Shakes and Fore are at a disagreement over 15 iirc.>Bans on any export with more than 3 dmfs has been considered but nothing concrete.
SOU LISTEN TO ME, INFINITE GABAGOOL IF WE MOVE ON FROM PES15
>>556838606>everyone but Boris understands the mixed at best reception to 15, Boris insists winter was an 8/10 for some reasonI must point out again, this is the one legally blind man in that booth
>>556838606>this focus on /pw/ only and DMFs like it is the biggest issue with this PES versionThey have lost the plot.
listen here you child, i watched 15 fulvo before you were even aware the cup existed, i watched /vg/ and /d/ and i think /fit/ do multiple matches where they literally did not pass the ball out of their half for whole halves, i have a file of /vr/ passing the ball around called "birth of trianglepassing.webm". i know how 15 plays and i didn't have a huge issue with it back then and don't have a huge issue with it now, especially not now with how other peses are, and just because you whine and moan about it constantly doesn't make what i said not make sense
When I'm in a discord fight and I copy paste posts to get help
>>556838858Is this a QD post?
>>556838858A bit esoteric no?
>>556838414Nomo is a little retarded but he means well most of the time and that's good enough for a Guy In Charge™
>>556837385https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zl1L0oWVoU
>>556838606>Boris insists winter was an 8/10 for some reasonKind of do be based, because for the most part it was, outside of /pw/ after round of 16.
>>556838606>and will give you all the time in the world to talk even about /aco/ doing well if you wantHe should really stop being biased against /aco/. He would be a good streamer/commentator/whatever if he didn't allow his biases in.
>>556839397correct. fun cup continues to be fun. :)
>>556838858Now say this with the kyot voice, QD
>>556839507It's okay when ASS does it though
>>556838606How does one go on first bait?
>>556832178There are worse teams
>>556839507I know I'm a newfag and all, but at this point I'm really interested in knowing why these assholes have such a rage-boner against aco.If it's just "oh, gooner board bad" then that's just retarded.You'd think aco killed some niggas' grandma the way they hate on it lmao
>>556839679I don't know
>>556839602Fell for the /ink/ bit award
>>556838858>listen here you childstop trying to arouse me