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>>557615616>NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKEto be the baaaa man
personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
I have a question about Chapter 4, in the scene when they first enter the church and Ralsei says "Kris, run left!"Why were there Titan Spawn just floating around the dark world, don't they need a titan to spawn from??Also why did they just disapear when Gerson turned on the light switch??
Let's discuss Carol I want to take Carol to the festivalI want to see Carol's dark world outfit
https://strawpoll.com/bVg8BPkdbyYNo vpn naughties this time, just the real raw data
>>557612807Botfags either win the lottery (fave giga lore relevance) or are all summarily executed (ooc yaoi)
>>557615839Titans are the fear of dark and it was very dark in that corner of the church Dark WorldYou still need a second Dark Fountain to make enough Darkness for a proper Titan to show up
I'm convinced Noelle is the knight.
>>557616417I think it causes more problems than it solves
>>557616417why isn't she a normal lightner?
>>557616051>can only add one fetish Grim
>>557615616Hooman!
>>557616051>batmanwhat
>>557616664they're really into preparing
TV DAISUKI!! SPAMTENNA DAISUKI!!!
>>557616664Superman
>>557616590That’s how it is with the other poll. But with strawpoll I can manually add any you want at any time, so just ask
HE FUCKED MY FAVE SO NOW IM GONNA FUCK THE EARTHTHATS RIGHT THIS IS WHAT YOU GETMY SUPER FAVE PISS
bored, need stimmium
Twitter is down because Elon is a jew
i love buckethead <3
Can someone hold me and say everything will be alright…….while jerking my off?
>the vessel would do anything to make Kris happy, or so they told Kris again and again>At first it seemed harmless enough, small gifts here and there, pie left on the countertop for them to enjoy being one of many things.>The issue showed itself when Kris realized that the vessel knew nothing of limits, if something made Kris feel good, it did it. Nothing was off the table in its mind.>Eventually this culminated when it found kris's diary, tucked deep beneath their bed.>Secrets of kris's most twisted desires stemming from their self hatred was what it found. the vessel learned Kris yearned to be punished, hurt, beaten, used in ways most people would consider hellish torture>And so it acted upon the notes accordingly. in the dead of night when Kris was sleeping, it tied them to their bedpost and gagged them so nobody could hear what was about to become of them.>The fear in kris's eyes when they awoke concerned it at first, but this was what Kris really wanted. They were just afraid to say it.>Muffled screams of pain transitioning to pathetic whimpers, futile attempts to be let go, it all pleased the vessel greatly. finally being able to give Kris what they truly desired. >It knew despite all the struggling, deep down Kris enjoyed every second of it>Kris would never admit it, but it was right
>>557616907SANS THE SKELETONYOU HAVE A SMALL BONETHE SIZE OF THIS FLOWER SEED
>>557616838Add hyper futa, penis tf, conjoined, trapformation, reality alteration and magic tricks
>>557617396Done
>>557616476What problem does it cause
>>557615727
>>557616973Oh I thought it was just issues on my end
>>557617257Kino
>>557615904Smoochablekissable even!
Gaster WILL be relevant Gaster WILL be green Friend WILL be a cat petterz creature with a pointed tailDess WILL be involved with the knight in some wayThe knight WILL be involved with Kris’s soul in some wayCarol WILL end up being a good personThe prophecy WILL have happened before but gone wrong Asriel WILL have had romantic feelings for DessThere WILL be more than one ending Kris WILL either lose a hand or have lost a hand The Girl in the prophecy WILL NOT be Susie We WILL take control of Noelle’s body in the weird route Mike WILL have further relevance beyond the joke characters Undertale Sans WILL be from Deltarune The player WILL be the angel
I’m terrified of getting older
>>557617932Talk yo shit, anon.
>>557617874Hahaha imagine that tongue enveloping your penis hahaha oh wow
>>557618030I fully stopped caring about that once I hit 30.I think that's the age when a lot of people stop being neurotic about silly things and just do whatever they want. No use passing time fretting for the time that passes.
>>557618250He's a pro with plenty of experience
Imagine cuddling in a big bed with both versions of Asriel and Ralsei and you all have hot gay sex and you get to huff their armpits also
>>557618257>I think that's the age when a lot of people stop being neurotic about silly things and just do whatever they want. It’s either that, or they have their actual hysterical meltdown (because they wasted their whole life and realize they don’t have natural youth to hard-carry their mistakes anymore)
>>557618615This makes femanons wetter than the Niagara Falls btw
>>557618793More like I see that when I look in the mirror every morning
>>557618615This makes anons harder than palladium microalloy glass btw
Still a bit of space left on the Valentine’s magma collab
my glass is full of ass
>>557618779WOW
>>557615858I hope her dark world outfit is a samurai or ninja outfit
>>557617182Don't worry anon, everything gonna be a-ok, the Fangamer release of OFF is a perfect remaster with no flaws whatsoever and it sold hundreds of thousands of copies
>>557617932Half of these suck
There are only two good angel theories.Player-Angel and Gaster-Angel>Player AngelA commentary on how players are gods to the games they play, determining the fate of their world. Comes with a possibility of an awesome final fight where we play as the JRPG Final boss fighting the heroes, opposed to the hero fighting the Final Boss. We are the god sealed away and defeated in the end.>Gaster AngelA way to wrap up the mystery of Gaster by making him the final boss, similar to player angel in the sense of it is a commentary on how authors are gods to the works they make. Explains why Gaster why it is HIS Deltarune and the new future stuff while tying in all his satanic imagery (Lucifer was a fallen angel)And then you have>Every other angel Do you wanna fight Asriel again?
I want to sniff asriels pits
I don't want to sniff Asriel's pits
>>557620146>>557620253asriel in a fighting pit with anonanon presents his buttewhat happens next?? uwu
>>557620095Player is the only one that works when you remember there is a prophecy in Undertale as well.
>>557620253fave is in the gotestein files...
>>557617932Mike is the angel tho
I wonder what the method for getting back the Angel's Heaven so you can replay the game will beBecause if it's (You) then obviously you can't just come back willy nilly and if it's Gaster how are you supposed to play a game when the guy who's keeping you connected to it is gone
>>557621293as long as the angel's heaven exists and is in play, you are granted permanent access to the world of deltaruneupon banishing the angel's heaven in chapter 7, access is lost to any further points in the timeline, but you are still able to go back and experience any points during which the angel's heaven was still activethis is the in-game explanation for the ability to select from chapters and the fact there are only 7 chapters available
Noelle find out about Meowgenics
>>557620095666 is the number of the beastThe beast is a satan's minion, not literally satan
>>557619517Square up
I am Batman
I am Iron Man
>>557622385
Angel Player is not a very novel idea so I don't think toby will do it.
I’m on the bus entertain me
>>557623008When I'm on the bus I draw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXeJKyjj0mM
>>557622970toby fox only ever does novel ideas that have never been done before and has famously scrapped mechanics and story beats if he recognizes they have been already done by games he likes, as he is a game developer with integrity and honor who refuses to steal concepts from prior videogame releases
>>557623149How it’s bumpy as hell
The angel banishment is not the last part of the prophecy so it can't be about the player.Unless toby doesn't want us to see the ending.
Toby realizes that the story and the actions the characters are taking follow cause and effect (very predicatble) and screams like Homer and starts twerking uncontrollably to keep his quirky levels from depleting to fatal levels
Our precious vessel will come back and Chapter 6 will be a pvp third person online game where we kill each other until one vessel reaches lvl 20
How do I sniff asriels pits
undertale in 2012
>>557623456>having characters in a storyi already saw this one, he's literally ripping off the most basic plot ever, what a fucking hack
>>557615858Rudy...
>>557623854This is unironically how I would start thinking if I ever tried to write a story.
Why would Ralsei be so surprised by the knight swooning Susie if she isn't Noelle?If it was Dess or Carol or anyone else it wouldn't be surprising at all for them to hit Susie.If it was Kris that slashed them, why does Ralsei go back to being his usual self right after that?The only answer that makes sense is that Ralsei knows Noelle is the knight and was surprised by her hitting Susie like this.This also explains why Ralsei and Noelle don't like each other, their tea heal the least amount of HP for each other.Another thing is Ralsei begging the knight to stop before she opens another fountain inside the Church dark world. If the knight was anyone else he would know it's useless to try and reason with the knight but he knows Noelle is soft and sweet so he begs anyway.
>>557624361Because it's Ralsei surprised about Kris stooping so low as to swoon Susie when they had a chance to defeat the Knight and alter the prophecy
>>557624361>If it was Kris that slashed them, why does Ralsei go back to being his usual self right after that?Because Ralsei is in on whatever Kris's plan is and is also a bitch that can't stand up for people.
Lmao
>>557624361noelle can't be the knight because when the ch4 fountain was made she was in the holiday house and we spent the entire day with herfurthermore this is also why carol can't be the knight as she was too busy beating the shit out of noelle in the kitchen
>"It said it in the Propechy, the Cassandra of /utg/ will denounced as a harbinger of fear as the real harbinger of fear spoke of terrible things to tempt weak-willed people for its destruction."MWITEF,HCYDIATP?
>>557624361idk but I would want to see more people explore the possibility of noelle being the knightthats not something anyone's tried to theorize on
Noelle is too short
>>557624727>furthermore this is also why carol can't be the knight as she was too busy beating the shit out of noelle in the kitchenTrust the secret toilet pipes to the Shelter tunnels Dark World superhighway to the church theory
>>557622434and ''prince of darkness'' is one of Satan's titles, one Ralsei uses. probably nothing behind it.
>>557624710X can also be replaced with every social media ever
Happy Lunar New Yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9uJj_J1714
>>557624681I don't know if Ralsei is in on Kris's plan per se, maybe it's more like he accepts that it's happening because he's just a lowly Darkner and Lightners know best and all that
it is the senpai hourpost the famalama
>>557624727This was the biggest issue for me with the Noelle knight theory but I think I figured it out:Yes Kris gives back the watch and consoles Noelle between CH3 and CH4 which means during that time, Noelle was crying at home and we know this to be true because Noelle has no reason to lie to Kris in the weird route scene.CH3 ends with Susie walking home before Kris. Kris stays at the bunker then we see the bunker door open. CH4 starts with both Susie and Kris in front of the fountain.It seems bizarre to me that Susie would be fine with leaving Kris behind and going back into the dark world without them especially since she can't close it on her own but that's what happens so I assume Susie waited for Kris quite a bit and probably spent that time talking to Ralsei.While Susie was in the dark world waiting for Kris, Kris went inside the bunker where Carol had Noelle freeze Undyne before telling Kris to take Noelle back home. Noelle was probably in a daze processing the events/suppressing the trauma as we see her do many times until the cold snaps her back to her senses (we know this exact thing happened before, she went to the supermarket in a daze and stood in front of the fridge until the cold brought her back to her senses) and she notices Kris by her side. Kris quickly returns the watch, takes the thorn, apologizes etc. then runs back home to close the fountain, hence Susie's impatience asking Kris again and again to close it already.At first I thought Toby may have made a mistake by not removing the watch on CH2 but he had years to fix that if it was indeed a mistake and I think his explanation makes perfect sense.>>557624869At this point it's so clear that I'm pissed I didn't figure all of this out back in CH2
>>557620518Who is mike who is he
>>557622970Toby invented this in college like twenty years ago. I would be surprised if it is fresh and new in any way at all.
>>557625685Mike cock lmfao
>>557625685Michael, didn't you read the bible?
>>557625573I don't agree with your conclusions but I think you are based for having them
>>557625812You're supposed to say mike HAWKYou failed me anon. you failed.
>>557625812This is what Mettaton says to burgerpants when crank calling him at work for no reason other than to punish him
Undertale Gaiden: Bratty and Catty's Quest for Handjobs for Answer
>>557625753can't fumble what never was.
Question for the anon who’s making this lightner-darkner swap au. What are noelle and Berdly supposed to be?
so glad to not have my political affiliation related to Jeffery Epstein, fellow truthers.
>>557625573this response still doesn't address a possible time where noelle could have made the fountain?? you do realize we went to church during chapter 4 right, the fountain wasn't made until after church was over and everyone left, it wasn't made during the night of ch3
>>557625971I think someone is jealous my joke is better
my deltarune folder isn't organized by character and at this point I'm too afraid to dive into the mess and try
>>557626846god i really hope tony hires three random motherfuckers to play the mikes for a fucked up spamton value network tier project i need this to happen
>>557626786the K in mike is already the C of cock that's why you say hawk mike cock doesn't sound like anything damnit it get your head in the game
>>557626835At some point I just throw everything into the general DR folder and stop bothering with Kris Cool 83 Tenna Funny 240
F IS FOR FAVETHATS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME
Mike's Mikes stakes
>>557626935lmao
i have the body of a pig
>>557625018>They're in the pipes...>Dark World superhighway means that you can travel faster in the Dark World than in the Overworld
>>557624727If noelle was the knight then the knight fight would get harder the more power noelle has, but it doesnt, thus, she isnt the knight
>>557626438nta but they would be an action figure and a plushdoll respectively
Has anyone ever made a pippins model?
>>557627113I wanted a higher cock per word rate, you wouldn't get it.
>>557627309Pippins catwalk modeling show where they’re all dressed bizarrely and like shit
I think I may have had a stroke while I was asleep last night but I'm feeling OK now so I guess it's fineI sure am glad that Deltarune will be complete soon
reading theories be like>yup uhhuh oh yeah Toby stole that idea too
>>557627254https://files.catbox.moe/ncx9ay.mp4
>>557627542I'm always saying this
>>557627459Pluey joins the catwalk and steals the show by stepping cutely
>>557627423I wanna give this Kris headpats
Reminder Spamton is minor coded
Reminder that Spamton is a miner
>>557626598Sorry I actually misread and responded to another issue I was expecting to be brought up lol. I think this one is very easy to explain actually.Carol tells Noelle to go the kitchen then kicks us out. After that Susie has a little monologue and then Asgore tells us not to worry and stuff and we have a quick snack. Then we can try to go back in and Susie says "Noelle's mom is totally watching us from the window." which means Carol is done scolding Noelle and now has her eyes on us, at this point we know Noelle is free to move wherever, you would assume she goes to her room to cry but what probably happened is Carol made her take the backdoor either in the kitchen or the living room, a backdoor was explicitly stated to be present in the house.Right before we leave the residence Susie stops us to get quick word in, then she stops us again right after we go through the gate of the house, saying we should go home, then it starts to rain and Susie immediately stops us again to comment on it too.At this point you can go wherever you want and there is a ton of optional content here, I just tested this and if you go directly to the church, ignoring everything, Susie stops you AGAIN saying we should go to school to see Ralsei, you can ignore that and go to church and the chapter progresses as normal.Toby intentionally put a dozen choices that would slow the player down here and even if you were to ignore all that and bolt straight to church, it's still more than plausible that Noelle made it there before you by just walking maybe not even in a particularly brisk pace. Of course, being the mayor Carol could also have shortcuts or even a tunnel to places of interest but we don't even need to speculate that hard in my opinion.I don't think this poses a threat to Carol knight theory either, it's completely possible for both Noelle AND Carol to make it to church before us.
Reminder to use the code "Minor" at spamton.store
>>557627665
Thank you fave for helping me inject my lunch insulin
The knight is too strange to be a normal lightner
The Knight is probably a dead lightner like Gerson.
>>557628192Yeah, that's because the knight is a groomer, so they can't be normal
>>557628276A dustner wouldn't be able to exit the dark world in kris' dark world, if there was a magic portal to the bunker then susie would've seen it as she chased the knight before us and it wouldn't explain why theyd leave undyne on the doorstep instead of just taking undyne through the portal
I love fish
on a scale of 1-10 where do Undertale and Deltarune fall on the isekai scale
>>557628562not if its an evil urn possessed by a ghost
>>557628192>>557628276Dess knighters say shit like this then look at you dead serious in the eyes and say Carol/Noelle knight has logistical problems as if a shambling corpse sneaking around all over town makes perfect sense.
>>557628926i keep dying trying to get shadow crystals, so a 10 for me.
Noelle told Kris that Oppa Homeless Style wasn't real cringe but actually a troll post but Kris refused to believe it
>>557620412Asriel and Chara are Undertale's angels. It's impossible for the player to fit the prophecy in Undertale.
The Roaring Knight was lowkey a milf hunter, that's why they took Undyne and wanted to take TorielSo it HAS to be either Noelle or Pizzapants
>>557629530oddly adorable
>>557629086>word salad
Yet another thing that was bugging me that's explained by Noelle knight is the voice on the phone. On a normal ending Kris doesn't pick up the phone so we can't properly hear who's on the other end, on the weird route Kris picks it up and it's Carol asking if they are going to the festival.Yes we don't hear the voice very well on the normal ending but the tone and speech used is completely different between the endings, if it was Carol reminding Kris to do something she would say something more mature and serious like "Remember our agreement." but the voice is acting very juvenile, almost pleading saying "Kris you promised :(((((" it's definitely Noelle saying this.
>>557629763Carol told him the same thing about her I Wanna Be A Ninja song, he knows this entire family's deal
Shyra = singer, has micGerson = he's OLD! has hammerDarkner = object in Dark WorldYeah?Ok.Gerson = dies, buried with hammer, still Gerson in Dark World (still OLD!)Shyra = dies, buried with micSo what happens to Darkners who are objects, but then a Monster Lightner dies, and gets buried with the object? Communion? Whatever happens, it happened to MikeHumans die and become heart shaped objects or something similar im sure
>>557630060The phone has the voice when Kris is drinking chocolate milk, and Noelle is with Susie. How can that be explained?
>>557630060But then how come the evil phone from chapter 3 was calling Kris while Noelle was in the other room and wanted them to stop Susie from getting the guitar which Noelle gave her willingly
>>557630268>>557630274That was Carol but it's Noelle who's calling you in the normal CH4 ending
>>557630060Congrats on being one of the few people to write a theory that my eyes immediately glaze over every time
>>557630112gerson's hammer doesn't seem to have a personality of its own and acts as a vessel for gerson's dustbut what if mike was already a darkner with an established personality and sense of self before getting buried with shyra's dust?
Noelle makes a wrong turn and ends up as a broodbitch for a gang of fat ugly bastards (hasn't showered in months)
>>557630824Many are saying this
>>557630060noelle knight is such a curve ball
Tenna takes a weird route and ends up as a broodbitch for a gang of fat ugly Spamtons (hasn't foam showered in months)
>>557630936That's what I'm saying
Tenna
>>557615727guys what the FUCK am i supposed to do here his attacks are too strong
>>557630718That's the questionCommunion?Lightner overrides Darkner?Something new? Mettaton? Mettaton is a fusion of Spamton and Tenna, but is also a Monster Lightner
>>557629086mettaknight cannot stop winning>>557630274not him but it could be a surpressed personality/memories situation. i don't think noelle knight theory could work any other way. there's absolutely no reason to let yourself get snowgraved.
>>557630936I am not saying this
my stomach is going burglrrlrlrrlrr
>:)
None of you are ready for Angel (angle) Susie
>I, your humble servant,
>>557631665MWAHAHHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAA
>>557631665This little fucker knows what's about to happen
>>557631665my fAAAther
>>557631667>miscon
>>557630060What makes this Noelle and not Dess?
>>557630718>but what if mike was already a darkner with an established personality and sense of self before getting buried with shyra's dust?doesnt this line of thinking imply that the dark world is just a parallell world the fountains are punching through reality, instead of one that is directly created by the will of the person making the fountain? i don't know that it necessarily works like that
>>557629086>has logistical problemsDidn't talk about that, I talked about character design.
>>557632083I don't really keep track of artists, did this one turn out to be a pedo or something?
>>557626935Stupid shit kid
>>557632367that (to some extent) or maybe mike had already appeared in one of the play sessions that happened before like with king, queen, tenna and rambmaybe dess borrowed shyra's mic?
>>557626562Common Mettaton Supreme Leader W
>>557626935>>557632484legit happened to me, myself. cooking class in HS. Then I decided cooking is boring and uncomfortable.
>>557629086The knight has to be someone that wouldnt call people's attention, so rudy could go into the library in chapter 2 without calling anybody's attention, but someone who's supposed to be missing like dess would instantly get noticed by undyne who's chilling next to the library (and some other people too i guess), therefore, its hard to believe that the knight could be dess
>>557632462He drew Noelle cunny (based)
always wash your hands. you should cook it's oddly calming, at least for me anyways.
>>557632764Think logically. No one would recognize a missing girl a decade later if she was passing by on the street. No one would recognize Dess after ~7 years outside of her immediate family and friends, and her only friends were Kris and Asriel and maybe Shyra.
>>557633023I respect your different viewpoint and that some things not for me can be for you.
Don't forget...The Flashygoodness remix of ASGORE...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OesB3WPzd2k
>>557633032A missing girl who wouldnt be recognized would still get undyne's attention, undyne is a pretty proactive person, so she wouldnt just sit idly as a suspicious, let alone unrecognizable, person who popped up out of nowhere walks across the street, she would question them immediately.
>>557628610I like her too.
Everyone is part of the conspiracy
>>557633023how about I live in filth and waste away instead
Krisp
>>557630824How bad would she smell after not showering for months?
>>557632557it's plausible>>557633032dess isn't just a missing girl though, she's the town's dirty secret, the reason no one talks to asgore anymore
>>557632083I have been looking for this gif for years thank you
>>557632764>The knight has to be someone that wouldnt call people's attentionIf only we had a knight candidate that could easily go into supply closet, library computer lab and the church without raising suspicion, someone like a star student who's also in the church choir. Someone who has been in the immediate presence of every fountain made by the knight. Man, it would be the final nail in the coffin if this person straight up walked right up to us with the missing box of chalk after we went through chapter 1 lol it would be such a slap in the face with how obvious it is
>>557633718for the first half of this i thought you were implying alphys, who has also been every place there's been a fountain
>>557633718The Weird Route makes no sense if Noelle is the Knight. Why are you mind breaking her if she's already mind broken and your mind breaking does nothing to change what she's already doing.
>>557633838doors that can fit a large person inside...
>>557633718Noelle knight is odd in one aspect, on chapter 4, weird route, you have the option to think about noelle or think about the knight, and they're both different cutscenes, so how could that be answered under a noelle knight context?
>litters in his own town ONCE
Noelle Knight is somehow more contrarian than Rudy Knight.
>>557633862your choices don't matter
>>557634270>jaywalked to get to the grocery store
Kris's boss theme...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMYfULr80jg
after giving it some thought, the only knight theories that would genuinely piss me off are catti knight, berdly knight or sans knight. those would all suck major ass. everything else i trust toby to know what he's doing even if it doesn't appeal to me personally
>>557634270innocent until proven guilty
>>557633862I'm glad you asked because this is THE BEST part of the theory.It directly ties into how Kris is constantly hiding the knight's identity from us, think of it this way:What changes from the player's point of view if we know who the knight is?If the knight is Carol, nothing changes, our future actions remain the complete same as there's no new drastic evidence that will put us down a different route. If it's Dess, that would imply a lot of spooky stuff going on but still, we would proceed with the story as normal. If it's Asgore or Asriel that could change things but I've already scratched those off as possible knight candidates so I won't go into detail on them.If the knight IS Noelle however, everything turns upside down, we can actually go an try to influence Noelle to change the outcome of the game. Kris KNOWS we know things we shouldn't, they know we can read Noelle's mind and influence her, if we learn that Noelle is the knight we CAN ruin her life, Kris must under no circumstance ever reveal the knight to us.Imagine this, you're a new player playing the full game, every chapter. You do the sword route and learn how to do the weird route, then you find out that Noelle is the knight on CH5 or 6, then you put 2 and 2 together and realize you can go back and influence Noelle to put her down a different path. Kris knows you can do something like this which is why they are so scared of you finding out Noelle is the knight. It's really the only knight reveal that makes such a big difference and it explains Kris's behavior perfectly.>>557633960I think those cutscenes add up to one scene, the knight takes off the helmet then thanks (you). Boom, pottery.
>>557634391Rudy knight has more merits and even has the benefit that dess knight-related evidence can be recontextualized under rudy knight as dess being rudy's motives for doing what he's doing, noelle knight is simply pretty confusing with ch3&4 on mind, but i bet it wouldve gone hard in the ch2 era, imagine the fanart we couldve gotten of kris and susie being like "how are you so strong!?" with the knight saying "...thank you... for making me stronger." as she takes her helmet off, it couldve added a sort-of enemy with benefits or lovers to enemies to lovers angle to suselle because of the angst over susie's love being the person she's fated to kill
stupid mutt
>>557634621>everyone thinks that the Prince of Castle Town is Lancer because he has higher visbility than Ralsei>Ralsei has to have Kris call Lancer over to enact a royal pardon>Lancer, naturally, gets too into the role and ends up increasing Ralsei's sentence>after some back and forth Kris just brings Ralsei his hat, so he can play the race card
>>557634807>I think those cutscenes add up to one scene, the knight takes off the helmet then thanks (you). Boom, pottery.Problem is, choosing to think about noelle and choosing to think about the knight are choices supposed to happen at the same time, so the knight taking off her helmet faster if kris thinks about noelle wouldnt make sense
>>557634807>What changes from the player's point of view if we know who the knight is?but that could work for any knight candidate that isn't dess, you could go up to them and call them a little bitch directly after you finish card castle.
What does everyone think would happen if we could force the thornring onto Kris instead of Noelle?
>>557635197which would be pure kino incidentally and i bet you toby is going to do that.
>>557633398
>>557634621i have never seen someone get ticketed for jaywalking. but then again, i dont live in the city.
>>557635197Realistically speaking we could just try every code possible until the bunker door opens or just do hax to force the door to open while narrating the entire plot to susie if we took toby's meta-slop narrative about le player seriously
>>557620095>implying the angel is necessarily the final bossWhen was this ever established? If anything, the prophecy says that its climax will only happen after the Angel has already been defeated and banished.
>>557635346Well I think we're able to force the thorn ring onto Noelle because a part of Kris wants to basically own her so I guess it would require Kris to desperately want to give you full control which is a neat twist but it kind of loses the marriage motif
>>557634807It still feels a little cheap that you've been manipulating Noelle in the weird route all along, but it takes one playthrough to realize all your trouble was silly and misguided because you were manipulating her for the wrong reasons. It still begs the question of what's the point of the Weird Route as is if she's the Knight, is the player just being stupid and doing something that makes no sense yet?
>>557635420at least with the door, you can say the narrator or kris won't let us
>>557635524>loses the marriage motifOnly if you're weak.
I don’t like theories because I am stupid and I don’t get them at all and whenever I play anything it’s pretty much just one ear and out the other.. sorry
>>557635632It's okay, just take my word for it that Papyrus is the Knight. You can trust me. I am smart and do understand the theories.
>>557635524A marriage motif between yourself and the demon in you could still work as a different angle on the weird route allegories
>>557635524i will marry kris
>>557635726belladonna kris
>>557634875>lovers to enemies to lovers angle to suselle because of the angst over susie's love being the person she's fated to killWhat do knights do in legend?Slay dragons.>>557635080Oh yeah and Kris just happened to think of the knight jussssst the very second she decided to take her helmet off? Those scenes are there for a narrative reason, they aren't a security cam live feed Kris is tapping into, both of the scenes adding up to one makes perfect sense in my opinion.>>557635197>but that could work for any knight candidate that isn't dessNot for Carol, if Carol knight was confirmed we necessarily feel the need to do anything different as far as our choices go. If it was someone like Asgore, sure that would shake things up but I don't consider anyone outside the Holidays to be knight candidates at all.>>557635547Noelle knight makes perfect sense in the weird route, it's the player's attempt at changing everything by influencing the person behind the dark fountains in the first place
>>557635407jaywalking in the city is necessary because drivers are assholes that want to kill you for existing and crosswalks are merely decoration
Nobody likes me because I’m so fucking stupid
>>557635080I don't believe that Noelle is the Knight, but I interpreted "think about the Knight" as being purely Kris's thoughts instead of another POV like with Susie since we haven't been connected to them through the soul, which is also why Kris can stop it by simply thinking about something else. It's not necessarily what the Knight is actually doing at that time, the really vague description of "the helmet begins to come off" instead of something more definitive like the helmet is taken off being more thought-like is what makes me think this.Regardless, I have a hard time believing that Kris could pretend that they're different people in the dialogue box, even if you believe that they caused the no dialogue options glitch in weird route. The thought about the Knight already slips by almost immediately veering into their true identity, I really don't think Kris is that mentally strong.
>>557635884But nothing in the Weird Route is about closing or opening new dark fountains, it's about making Noelle stronger. Why would it be in the player's interest to make the Knight stronger?
>>557633023I made eggs and grilled cheese and am currently sitting with the afterglow of a satisfying meal before i cuck myself with vitamins
>>557635404She's relatable.
>>557636050How big is your penis? This is important
>>557636050why are you sadposting anon did you wake up sad who hurt you
>>557629086Reminder that Knight Original Character GODS have been winning since Chapter 2... no, Chapter 1. Ralsei establishes you can't actually use dark worlds to revive the dead, it just creates twisted mockeries that act like your memory of them. And it obviously isn't the case that living Dess just faked her disappearance to walk through town as the Knight for years. The Knight is just a twisted being that imitates Dess for Kris' sake.
>>557635884Well, usually, in deltarune, it's proven that kris thinking about someone shows what that character is doing at that time, consistent with susie as we always see what she's doing while kris and ralsei stand around, so logically speaking, thinking about the knight shows us what the knight is doing at that time and thinking about noelle shows us what noelle is doing at that time, both cases only conflicting if you think about it in a noelle knight context, plus, the "thank you..." textbox is the one from the light world, proving that the think about noelle scene is showing us noelle's room in the light world
>>557636050hey
>>557636136you gotta consider the control angle too, cause you'd have a very powerful tool in the knight
Noelle is afraid of ICE-E because Rudy is technically an undocumented latino man (played by Pedro Pascal)
>>557636136I will forgive Toby for everything if weird route leads to a stronger Knight fight. I don't know about most people but the only interest I have in snowgrave is getting to fight Noelle and other unique or harder bosses. (The psychological stuff is weirdly dull to me because the normal route is so good)
>>557636426Ooo rape me next
kid named Toby
I still remmeber the anniversary surprises lmfao>look it is undertale remember this haha>new lore content>deadly silence Lmfaooooooo what the hell were they nervous, they should have acted like the Spamton bits, just pretend nothing is happening
>>557636473Kris can already make dark fountains, what more do they need? They could cause the roaring any time they wanted. Even Berdly was going to.
>>557636557The knight's stats in code dont change in the weird route, weirdly enough
>>557636557waku waku based
>>557635884>I don't consider anyone outside the Holidays to be knight candidates at all.it is unwise to alienate your closest allies (other people willing to believe dumb theories) like this
The real knight that characters mentioned in chapters 1 and 2 has yet to appear on screen and is a different character than chapter 3&4 knight
>>557636557building a machine to thrash your own ass
>>557636473Even if that's the case, nothing in the Weird route would possibly be about making the Knight stop opening the fountains. Unless that is no longer the purpose of it.
>>557636604Toby was deadly afraid that the two idiots he's playing with were going to accidentally loredrop something about noelle or whatever loreshit the new undertale content is showing so he commanded to stfu during those moments
Look at him gote. Look at Chara Chara
>>557636326>And it obviously isn't the case that living Dess just faked her disappearance to walk through town as the Knight for years.Thinking that Knight Dess effectively chose this instead of her current state somehow being the result of the shelter incident is just as stupid as thinking she's a completely normal Lightner just wearing armor.
>>557636818i think Toby just didn't want Good Charles to try talking to Noelle cause there wasn't any dialogue and it'd ruin the illusion, I doubt he told the uncles anything significant about Noelle
>>557636984Not that it matters since they still tried to walk north in the doghole when there was no room transition coded there and ruined the illusion anyways
>>557636136Weird route is all about turning Noelle into our vessel and we only planted a seed in her on CH4, I'm expecting CH5's knight to act differently on the weird route, I don't know just how different it will be but I don't think it's necessary for the player to force the knight into opening or not opening specific dark fountains. What's undeniable is that we're taking Noelle on a different route and thus far we don't really have a good justification for that other than curiosity. Noelle knight perspective gives weird route a legitimate reason to consider even if it ends up bad.>>557636401>textbox is the one from the light worldI just went back to check and the textbox is actually a dark world box which I didn't even notice before, at this point Noelle may as well jump out the screen and scream I AM THE ROARING KNIGHT.>>557636723I wouldn't reject it outright if a good case was made but at this point I can't imagine how the knight would be someone outside the holidays
Noelle AND Dess are the Knight.The Knight you fight in Chapter 3, fled like a bolt through the night into the shelter, appeared again in Chapter 4, is Dess.Noelle opened the fountains in Chapter 1 and 2. She's the 'shadow knight' doing the fountain opening by her mother's calling and the Knight King and Queen were referring to.
>>557636679I'm not Goku. I just want more good fights because other bullet hells are too hard for me, hurt my eyes and I've already won against the Knight 10-30 times and need more variety.
akshually. based on this, the knight has to be someone with a fangamer action figure or figurine.
>>557637345will chapter 5 release by june?
>>557636938They just had gay sex in the ruins
>>557636818He did LMFAO he really really did ahhhhhh awkwardness, good times, good times
>>557637261I think there are much easier explanations for the purpose of the Weird Route than to assume Noelle is the Knight and it's about taking control of her (which doesn't require her to be the knight in the first place)
>>557635997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNADERHkiqk
>>557636604>Why weren't the couch guys making tons of noise and being distracting during the parts with new dialogue and new music and new shit I don't get it
>>557637386Very cute. What I wouldn't do for some gay sex in the ruins with a Dreemurr right now
fave removed one of your organs while you were sleeping but isn't telling you which one
I wish I could be the next Toby Fox.
>>557615839It seems that creating two fountains near each other, which is a similar scenario that the one Berdly and Queen almost caused and that Ralsei feared would have caused the Roaring, is enough to create Titan Spawn but not directly a Titan.
>>557637389Ay ay ay ay go ralsei go ralsei go ralsei go ralsei go ralsei
Fave's Getaway Submarine
>>557637520Weird route works fine even if Noelle is the knight, that's not my point, my point is that assuming Noelle is the knight gives weird route a legitimate chance to consider doing.What's your excuse for doing the weird route right now other than being curious? Obviously I'm not saying it's unethical to play the game a certain way but think of it from the perspective of the characters, what reason could you possibly have to do the weird route?To go against the prophecy? I guess it IS a shot but Ralsei already told us about how nothing changes the outcome and we should try to be kind, going and doing the exact opposite of that just to see what happens is just unreasonable UNLESS we know that Noelle is the knight and this is the only way we can actually make a change.
>>557637857Oh that cute little rascal
>>557637386But Chara is a cute loli
And with strange aeons even Deltarune may release
>>557615839>A shard of fear. Appears in places of deep dark.
>>557637795Oh i do get it, it is just funny seeing them freeze up so much, not even a blink when he walked past Gaster door
post charas
>>557636221True. And what's more:She's worth fighting for
Fave's big jiggly bouncing belly...
>>557638073All I'm saying is that out of all possible reasons for doing the Weird Route, this one requires a massive leap which is to say Noelle = Knight. Ralsei also didn't say that, he says we might be able to change things but the outcome might be worse.Did you ever explain if Noelle is supposed to be aware and lying to everyone she is the Knight, or is she not aware of it? I find it extremelly difficult to believe Noelle would be able to lie like that.
>>557638431Here's your hooman.
>>557638431
>>557638323if one of the guys accidentally said "oh hey, gaster's room" casually then toby would lose his shit because that'd be confirming the mystery man's identity to the fandom, which is a reason why he prob commanded the couch guys to stay absolutely silent during the new content
>>557638431>mentally disturbed girl and her caretaker brother
>>557636938he gote>>557637386I see suckable shote gote nipples and huffable sho-go tummy
Aaaaaayyyyy Numbers so this is what was happening
>>557638920Isn't Stoat just as bad because they are using AI too?
>>557638920let me guess, it's another shitter discord-killer app that no one cares about and will be forgotten within a few weeks or will be so unpopular that its flaccid amount of users makes it so that switching from discord is not worth it
who is gaster?
when is gaster?
>>557637265>She's the 'shadow knight' doing the fountain opening by her mother's calling and the Knight King and Queen were referring to.I'm not sure if that's what Chapters 3 and 4 are going for, but it sure seems to be what Chapter 2 was implying. Chapter 2's foreshadowing seems to establish that the Knight 1) is a lightner, 2) has a secret identity to the point where they have to cloak their appearance with smoke because they are scared of people seeing their true appearance... only for them to just waltz in on your face in Chapter 3? Replaying Chapter 2 after 3&4 almost makes the Knight look like a borderline red herring. Perhaps they can't actually move through the light world as freely as it seems and they need someone to move them, or even create a fountain for them to enter and scare the darkners and heroes?
>>557638484I can't believe Sans' arms is eternally glued into the hoodie.
Beautiful Big Belly Butt Naked Faves Don't Just Fall Out The Sky You Know
The knight's hurt sound you get when you deal above 100 damage is literally Noelle's screamhttps://files.catbox.moe/df7z13.mp4>>557638646>Did you ever explain if Noelle is supposed to be aware and lying to everyone she is the Knight, or is she not aware of it? I find it extremelly difficult to believe Noelle would be able to lie like that.This was one of the more difficult parts of the theory. I don't think she's lying, in fact I think she specifically tries to avoid lying especially when we ask her about the shelter. I think that's because Kris told her not to talk about it even when they are alone together.When we ask her about the shelter she gets nervous at first then she drags the conversation elsewhere.She's shown again and again and again to rationalize everything she's going through. A dark world? Must be a dream. Key? You mean my house key? Locked? You mean like how my mom locks everyting haha?This is made especially clear in the sweepstakes, she constantly runs into video game glitches and rationalizes them like ohh I must have downloaded too many mods XP!!She silently breaks down when she's under stress or her trauma surfaces like when Berdly mentions December, or when we make her us snowgrave, or when she first enters CH2 dark world. She's constantly shown to both go into a daze and hyperrationalize under stress.I'm not saying she has a split personality or goes in a literal hypnotic trance but rather she suppresses every knight thing she does as a dream or a game.This is why CH2 dark world was made FOR her, Queen is literally Carol but actually caring, cyber city is the city she wanted to visit with Dess, she gets to go on TWO dates with her crushes, it's the first place we see FRIEND (her smile), and it even has those smiling sockets she's afraid of. This is all because she put those there unconsciously.TLDR: She's not lying but she's not telling us everything either.
>>557639310The knight wouldnt have to hide their face if they were dess, since dess is a new character we havent physically seen yet, it would change absolutely nothing if we were told the knight was dess, but if the knight was a known character like rudy or carol or even asriel, then itd make sense for them to want to hide their identities
Jewish fave repeatedly asking you "Do goyim really?" until you respond
>>557639736Truly a fave worse than death
>>557633358Why would it? Why would Undyne keep track on old cold cases from when she was still a teenager of a town she just moved into? Why would it make sense for her to question every single adult female with antlers she doesn't recognize? It's not like Dess is a fugitive.
>>557635420>>557635584It's very clear that the purpose of hiding the code is to prevent Susie from entering the Shelter. We are already prevented from exploring the world of Deltarune freely by the Cage.
>>557639538Adding onto this, you can't hear this sound unless you're hitting her with rude buster OR everyone except Kris are down.Noelle has no reason to hide her identity to Kris and it makes sense for her to not be able to hold back her squeals when she's getting hit on (hehe) by her crush.
if the roaring knight is a holiday family member, and if the knight keeps trying so hard to hide their identity to the point where kris knows they shouldnt know their identity, then why would the knight keep the antlers on as it would literally narrow the knight down to only a few options if they're meant to be taken as serious evidence? wouldn't the knight simply cut the antlers off and leave us clueless to their true identity if they're a holiday member?
>>557639538all of the goats have the same voice sound, just pitch shiftedthe holidays might be the same too, come to think of itall this indicates is that the knight is probably a deer, which we already know because it has antlers
>>557633718Where is this from? Is this a Suselle scene I skipped?
>>557639538It's still very difficult to explain how come Noelle can lie so well she could hide fighting Kris and Susie as the Knight. Even moreso fighting if you did a bit of damage to the Knight and coming completely unharmed from that. I don't think she'd be able to do that to Susie, or at least, there should've been hints she did something weird on the night before Chapter 4.>This is why CH2 dark world was made FOR herVery agreeable, but I prefer to see it as strenghtening my "Split Knight" theory where Noelle opened some fountains, she's not literally the Knight but complicit like Kris is.
>>557637389How are feeling losing gold/sliver in hockey, numbers?
>>557639538but why is it that noelle is much more visibly anxious when rationalizing while stressed about other things but when it comes to lore relevant things noelle isn't acting as she normally does under stress?
>>557640181it looks something like this>AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>557639958The Knight isn't trying to hide their identity from Kris. Kris already knows who the knight is. Kris and the Knight are working together. Kris and the Knight hook up in the shelter at the end of chapter 3.
>One of the main characters is putting on an act every moment they're on screenI don't really like theories like thisEspecially when the game's been going on for 8 years
>>557639836i can believe she'd take a personal interest in solving a persistent missing person case where the previous police chief failed and possibly got fired for itshe'd want to be the one to figure it out, and she would do it by simply running up to some rando deer and demanding to know if they're december holiday
>>557639736>Japanese built Jew maid. how does that even behave?
Game theory: Dess possesses Noelle to turn her into the Knight like the sisters in The Lovely Bones
>>557633110I never got why people think the Mike=Friend theory was discredited by the Mike Imposter fight. The fake Mikes explicitly say that if Mike doesn't exist, then there's no explanation for where the idea of Mike came from. It wouldn't make sense to "make fun of the fanbase for thinking Mike was a cat" because nobody thought Mike was a cat until Tobert made an ARG that strongly implied it. There's also the issue of Spamton and Svatch having glasses that look like Friend, which has zero explanation if Spamton hasn't met Friend, which once again strongly implies Friend is Mike because Mike is the only mysterious male character mentioned by Spamton. And why the hell would Chapter 4 establish that Mike's name is Michael if he's supposed to be a nonexistent person, if anything Chapter 4 giving us new information overrules Chapter 3 implying that he may be fake.
>>557640552honk honk what's up funny
People are gonna be so mad when the Knight is Asriel and the helmet antlers are just the only thing that was left of Dess after the dessappearance
>>557640445i meant to say kris shouldn't reveal their identity to us idk what i was thinking while typing, ofc kris knows, the point is that the knight and kris are hiding the knight's identity from us for a reason or two so keeping the antlers would be counterproductive to hiding the knight's identity
>>557640694There are higher odds Asriel never shows up in the game than of Asriel being the Knight
All Knight theories have logistical issues except for Papyrus Knight.
>>557640518Harassing random citizens is the type of thing that probably got Asgore removed. Asgore wasn't fired for botching the investigation years ago, he was removed recently for being obsessed over it years after the fact. Undyne is stupid but not dumb enough to do the exact same thing as Asgore.
Mike seems like a good person, should he be FRIEND he would be a positive character
Why the hell do the Mikes think that Mike might be a cowboy or a cat when none of that information is in-game
>>557617782this is awesome anon
>>557640774The only person who could do anything about the Knight's identity is Susie, and she's dumb. At most it'd be a setup for Susie to think Carol may be the Knight.
>>557640863Ralsei is Mike, Kris's imaginary friend who Kris would imagine with different appearances to suit whatever a 6 year old Kris was thinking about at the time.Except the microphone stuff, that's just for the pun.
>>557640181i-i-i-it's okay... swedens mens hockeyteam will perform better... r-r-right? *cries*
>>557640774Well it's simple, they're not hiding the Knights identity from the player. We see Kris make a fountain and can't do shit about it. What would us knowing who the Knight is change? If the Knight was Noelle maybe it would be worth hiding as the player can mindbreak her, but if the Knight is Dess there's nothing the player can do with that information.
>>557640970but kris still keeps up an effort to hide the knight's identity from US, so if the knight's identity wasnt anything we could do something about, then the knight might as well just pull their helmet off in chapter 5 and say "my name is rudy/dess/carol", so why not cut the antlers off if the knight truly is a holiday?
Absolute Noelle
>>557639958Because the main story is building up to Susie thinking Carol is the knight which will make the Noelle twist hit even harder.>>557640115You get it on CH2 only if you tell Noelle that Susie likes to eat chalk.>>557640134>It's still very difficult to explain how come Noelle can lie so well she could hide fighting Kris and Susie as the Knight. Even moreso fighting if you did a bit of damage to the Knight and coming completely unharmed from that. I don't think she'd be able to do that to Susie, or at least, there should've been hints she did something weird on the night before Chapter 4.I don't think she's "lying" to the fun gang, she's just keeping the secret Kris told her to keep. I also like to think she secretly LOVES being the knight, she LOVES being in control and doing whatever she wants to do, she's the origin of the whole freedom thing secret bosses are obsessed with after all if she indeed is the knight. You can see her copy Kris's moves, the flirty pointing, the crossed arms, she thinks Kris is cool and she loves getting to do all that herself. It's also in character for her to laugh after how Susie mentions she can't beat them in the light world, she probably imagined Susie kicking her ass in the real world there.I think her nervous reaction on the shelter questions AND the fact Kris gives us options she could specifically have plausible deniability on implies that Noelle catches up to what's going on and plays along with Kris's plan, keeping knight stuff secret even when they talk alone.>Noelle opened some fountains, she's not literally the Knight but complicit like Kris isWell Carol and Kris are directly involved anyway so I guess you could even say the "knight" is a group lol. Maybe Kris and Noelle opened the first fountain together.>>557640204See above, Kris probably already told her to keep knight stuff secret.>>557640458I don't think she spoke a single word of deceit.
Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
>>557640863They read the wiki
>>557641514Good night!
>>557640863Toby didn't think about it and just wanted to pull a gotcha
>>557617782butter knightfe?
>>557641512>I also like to think she secretly LOVES being the knight, she LOVES being in control and doing whatever she wants to doSadistic noelle theory real
>>557639798Jewish hooman
>>557641726mfw the caffeine hits
why doesn't deltarune have a gigantic stockpile of worthless landfill merch for every possible holiday like hazbin hotel
>>557641090Good riddance to see your valentines thoroughly ruined.
>>557640863I thought it was Pluey/Jongler inserting their favourite things into Mike just so they can dress up in things they like.
>>557641726mfw anon finally makes a good point for once
>>557641479grandmother carolnightmare queen dess
>>557641972Toby is Japanese now and the Japanese only care about like 3 different holidays
>>557641972>why doesn't deltarune have a gigantic stockpile of worthless landfill merchit does though?
>>557641512>I also like to think she secretly LOVES being the knightI don't fully buy this, I can agree Noelle would enjoy a controlled environment she can kill darkners (like she killed the catz) and be powerful even under her mother's yoke, but Noelle going as far as hurting Susie and actively threatening to end the world? Doesn't sound like something Noelle would do willingly. (Without advanced weird route mind breaking).>I think her nervous reaction on the shelter questionsEveryone you ask reacts oddly to the shelter, it's just a strange topic to raise. I don't see that as particularly good evidence on her. Noelle being the Knight also doesn't explain a couple oddities like why is Gerson a dustner in the Church fountain if Noelle had no particular bond with him.
>>557641726mfw tasqueshart is still upset for being in the wrong
>>557641512>>557641802>she LOVES being in control and doing whatever she wants to do>Sadistic noellebut that conflicts with all the masochistic nature that noelle has shown thus far, that doesnt make much sense
>>557642137don't cut off half my sentence like that anon
Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
Would Ralsei make VROOM VROOM noises when driving a kart?
i think the knight is anonanon, how could you? I trusted you
>>557640863Jongler came up with his theory based on the cancelled cowboy show that still has sets sitting around backstage.Pluey saw Friend in the shadows once, and is also a furry.
I want shota Asriel to have the same intelligence and demeanour as Asriel Dreemur and he forces me to do things to him while looking all smug and he also calls me his good boy throughout. Is this normal?
>>557640830Asgore sleeps in this fucking dumpster I'm thinking calling him mentally ill might not be too far fetched
>>557640863They looked at the game's script anon, come on
ai generate an insincere but formal happy new year message to Asgore but then he doesnt know it's ai generate and he thinks you wrote 3 pages of beautiful nonsense yourself and he goes to your house and give you a hug
>>557642403AND I WOULD HAVE SUCCEEDEDIF IT WASN'T FOR THE FACT THAT I FAILED
>>557627286this anon kind of has a true, toby would be obsessive enough to make that the case
>>557642720I don't even like asgore but this just makes me sad
IS IT SPOOKY TAIME? IS IT TAIME FOR SPOOKS?
>>557642720And when he hugs me I pull out a knife and stab directly into his monster brain stem and kill him
>>557639525It's the way that dude rollsHe truly means it, when he gives a hand to someone in need. Though he does have a very peculiar understanding of keeping someone at an arm's lengthI will stop now
Everybody shut up I'm trying to listen to the new Xtratuna song
>>557642285Sadomasochism, plus...>>557642285>>557642195If Noelle IS sadistic, she could absolutely fantasize about torturing her crush out of love, maybe even involving fantasies about susie beating her down and bullying her only for noelle to strike back and bully her for domination purposes, which explains why noelle doesnt sound all that happy when you keep talking to her about how nice susie is, it literally shatters her sadomasochistic fantasies about dominating susie after she dominates noelle, so, >>557642285, its not farfetched to imagine that noelle knight could lend itself onto the idea that noelle has sadistic tendencies at the very least, would fit given the cold, powerful presence that carol possesses, with noelle simply wishing that she could be more like her own mother and not like an anxious mess, it would be an interesting way to recontextualize all of the "oughh i want to bang susie" scenes into being important for noelle's character outside of "noelle simps for susie because muh yuri..."
>>557642782goap
>>557642936MY NAME IS GASTERI MADE THE VESSELIT WAS DIFFICULTTO PUT THE SURVEY TOGETHER
>>557642895*dies of dead*
>>557638793>oh look! Its Gasters door! Lets check it>no text>hahaha cant let the players know about the youknowWHATrune haha>doggy robot voice:...ok lets keep go->HEY its Noelle Kni- I mean kid Noelle haha imagine if she was the Knight winkwinknudgenudge>doggy robot voice:...no.no.no.no.we do not know who the cuh night is lets keep going>yeah yeah we dont wanna talk about the VESSEL or the creator of the Vessel or>doggy robot voice:stop.stop.stop.stop.stop.stop.stop.stop.
>>557641090>lativalmao they'll be fine
>>557642985grope
>>557642973That's a little too much for the happy friendship themes and wholesome lesbians story Toby wants to tell
>>557643175scope
fave found an abandoned bag of gummy politics bears in the vendertale machine
>>557643250hope
>>557642672What's in the room at the back?
it would be cool if the tenna statues came to life
im trying to write but whatever i put out fucking SUCKS i will KILL MYSELF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>557643351coke
>>557643053>stream turns off>stream resumes with one person missing from the room and Toby holding a hammer
Giving Noelle an arc about becoming more powerful through violence at someone else's command thus ultimately keeping her chained on weird route but also making her a Knight as Carol's underling is kind of putting a hat on a hat isn't it
>>557643479I have come to realize most written things suck, but as long as you can convince people that it doesn't suck that's all that matters. Don't beat yourself up over it
>>557643053>>557643518these made me giggle
>>557643245Well, given the change of mood seen in ch3&4, its not too farfetched, plus, having stuff from later in the game recontextualize what happened near the start is a natural thing to do for stories, so a subversion on how noelle is supposed to be makes sense, besides, given toby's earlier works, he's absolutely capable of making bleaker stuff, its just that now he can do it with more maturity than dr andonuts calling you a fag, its not like noelle knight cant get a redemption moment anyways, the whole game has you sparing shitheads like chaos king or spamton neo in the regular
>>557643479Do what I do and just get drunk. You'll fly right through it.
>>557643482bepis
>>557642195>Noelle going as far as hurting Susie and actively threatening to end the world? Doesn't sound like something Noelle would do willinglyShe wasn't trying to KILL Susie, I think it would be in character for Noelle to enjoy being powerful enough to have a legit tumble with Susie. I don't think she's trying to destroy the world either, Carol is most likely the mastermind the fountains and she's ultimately doing what she's told for now, until LOVE makes its way into her and she has HOPE crossed on her heart, breaking free and banishing the Angel's heaven, what is deemed "best for her" by choosing to be who she wants to be.Silly me I forgot to mention how CH2 is literally the whole story of Deltarune. Queen (Carol) is trying to use Noelle as her knight to create a "better world" whatever that might be in the light world context. Carol doesn't want to destroy the world either, she's just wrong on what she thinks is best for her daughter. The queen is ultimately revealed to truly care for Noelle, implying Noelle getting her freedom is what truly makes the Angel meet with its desire, getting its "heaven" banished.>Everyone you ask reacts oddly to the shelter, it's just a strange topic to raiseHonestly that's fair but I think there's a good case for both Kris giving you options and Noelle actively avoiding the topic of the bunker. You can straight up ask about the shelter to other people but you only get "key" and "locked door" as options when you talk to Noelle. Kris knows Noelle would spill the beans which is why our options are so limited in the first place.>Noelle being the Knight also doesn't explain a couple oddities like why is Gerson a dustner in the ChurchI think it makes sense for her to try to raise up the author of her favorite fiction series Dragon Blazers to use as an ally, she wants him to use the shadow crsytal but he just refuses to.>>557642285>Sadistic noelleI don't think it's her being sadistic, it's more like gray fox and snake
>>557643767penor
was the dress black and blue or gold and white
was the dess black and blue or gold and white
>>557643831dong
Is it Yanny or Laurel
>>557644013max nut
>>557643774I don't mean to imply the Angel is definitely Carol btw, she just fits one interpretation of it. I think the Angel can be both Noelle, Carol, Gaster, (you), someone else, idk? Pretty sure most parts of the prophecy are deliberately meant to work with multiple characters so different routes can lead to the "same ending" just like how in Undertale both genocide and pacifist route ended with the Angel freeing the monsters, one from the underground and one from the mortal realm, Gerson specifically mentions that.
Dress Knight
>>557644058Green Needle
>>557644101miles long
>>557644274dong expansion
>>557643675No, I think it is too far fetched, I believe in toby recontextualizing Noelle as a dubious character but not as far as painting the lesbian butch dom and sub femme relationship dynamic he adores as problematic.>>557643774>I don't think she's trying to destroy the world eitherThat scene is just kind of weird in general as it begs the question why did the Knight risk doing that regardless of who they are.>I think it makes sense for her to try to raise up the author of her favorite fiction series Dragon Blazers to use as an allyI mean, sure, but wouldn't it make more sense if he manifested because whoever opened that Dark World actually met Gerson and spoke to him enough to understand who he was? Feels like if all Noelle did was be his fan, she wouldn't be able to make his dustner manifest, like Susie.
>>557644374Noelle being sadistic and wanting to dominate susie after she dominates her isnt necessarily problematic (plus i never said it would be portrayed as problematic)
>>557644360butt segs
>>557644648Is it not? Susie doesn't even like hurting people, that was her facade, while Noelle seems to actively enjoy watching or feeling pain.
>>557642720I don't like that mental image at all>>557643479Don't give up! Eventually you'll find your rhythm and you'll make something out you can feel genuinely proud of, but only if you give yourself the chance and stick with it
>>557642843NO...
>>557616051Strawpoll seems kino but it's scaring me that it seems like you can't modify things once you vote, and that you can only put in one custom vote. Let's whine and beg them to fix that
I'm wing gaster! The royal scientist!
goodnight /utg/ i am going to bed now. cya>>557644684suprise butt secks
>>557644360god i hate you so much numbersyou contribute fucking nothing to the thread you should make a trash thread and stick to it so i never have to see your worthless ass again
>>557616051these change so drastically even if we do them every 6 hours whats the point
>>557644924Gote night, fren! :D
>>557644938>angy
>>557641514>>557644924g
>>557644924I hope you die in your sleep
PLEASE GOD SMITE COAL AND GREENTOE SOON
>>557644821Well, it could be like, a pretext so that noelle learns to not be as obsessed once she learns that susie isnt the aggressive bully she thought susie was, yknow, steps towards her redemption, if it has to end with suselle endgame, you could always just say that consensual hurting would be on the table to make both noelle and susie happy (the woke dog making an argument for a CNC relationship being healthy makes plenty of sense)
>>557645225they're both the same person
>>557645225God already gave CoL cancer so his time is coming. That's what he gets for not believing in Jesus.
Sadistic yandere noelle hcs is the most ooc hmfao or whatever the acronym is slop
>>557645503Sadomasochistic noelle*
The girl in the prophecy is something that feels so mysterious and guessy that I don't even care. I love schizoshit but it's just that this could mean fucking anything. I don't want it to be susie because she's already the dragon and etc. Anyway what if it's Noelle wielding the twisted sword and the twisted sword is for her
Dammit, these Spider Donuts are hard as tits!
>>557645782Iirc noelle is programmed to be able to pick the twisted sword up
>>557645786Read this in Dexter Manning's voice
>>557644938you sound upset
>noelle knight is actually catching on
>>557645503Noelle Knight is nonsense but Noelle's sadomasochism is absolute fact
>>557645786You must have gone to the Sans Cum Cafe where they served "spider donuts" that were actually cake
>>557644924please don't wake up, oversensitive pansy.
>>557646232you appear permanently upset in the undertale deltarune general thread
>>557616051>3+ people voted neither "men" nor "women"The Kris caucus grows...
>>557638920why are discord even age verifying when they dont have to? advertising?>>557639538muffets laugh is a flowey asset. is flowey therefore muffet?
>>557644374>I mean, sure, but wouldn't it make more sense if he manifested because whoever opened that Dark World actually met Gerson and spoke to him enough to understand who he was? Feels like if all Noelle did was be his fan, she wouldn't be able to make his dustner manifest, like Susie.With this line of thinking it's not plausible for the knight to be anyone other than Alvin. We can assume older monsters like Carol would personally know Gerson and Noelle would know Gerson's remains are kept by Alvin in his office as she's a part of the choir and knows all about what goes on in the church. Carol could have come up with the plan to revive Gerson but I think even without that it makes sense for Noelle to do that on her own. She mentions watching Dragon Blazers "religiously" she's also a huge fan of Blood Crushers and is a total completionist, it makes sense as to why Noelle would want to revive Gerson, maybe she wanted information from him, maybe she got the lesson she needed when Gerson rejected using the crystal, makes for a good story imo.Also the reason why Susie failed to revive Gerson is probably because she didn't know that he was dead at that point, she was already expecting to see Gerson in the dark world and thus a statue filled his place instead, because she didn't use the hammer as a base unlike Noelle.On top of all that, we have no solid evidence for anyone else reviving Gerson so it would be all more speculation vs actual evidence we have connecting Noelle to Gerson even if you think it's weak.Going from evidence alone only people interested in reviving Gerson would be Alvin, Carol and Noelle. Actually nvm MS BOOM KNIGHT THEORY CONFIRMEDAlso this made me think of how it was Noelle that gave Jackenstein his issues. She probably was the one cleaning up the church and putting the pumpkin decoration in the closet when she saw a worm inside and yelped, this made him think he's hideous, cute.
>>557645572Slop by any other name would taste just as garbage>>557646037Both are stupid and its edge for edges sake
My god imagine having your random joke art picked up by one of the avatarfagsI don't know what I'd do
>>557645782i would kek if the endgame of weird route is her killing you instead of being your submissive little rapeslave
>>557646440Because of Palantir and that's not even a conspiracy theory. The vendor Discord is using is literally associated with Peter Thiel and his Palantir spyware shit.
>>557646330I need a punching bag as I got an anger problem, I found a justified one anon.
>>557646571?? Why would you kek? This seems fairly likely, she keeps "getting stronger" and bolder/more forward and scarier, and she is probably going to develop game-destroying powers
>>557646440Look up who the new CEO of discord is.
>>557640863what if mike really IS a cowboy and a cat>>557642048that's really cute
>>557646037You kinda have to believe in sadomasochistic noelle in order for noelle knight to make sense, otherwise, noelle wanting to get beaten up and the knight beating susie up are contradictory unless you believe noelle has sadistic tendencies or fantasies
>>557646645if your punching bag doesn't even know you are throwing punches then i think you might have a problem
We've had like 3 people that have gone under the name Tasquefag and neither of them have been good posters. It's just a curse from the looks of it.
>>557646961https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_6IjeprfEs
>>557646484I'm just taking into account it could be Dess, because she might have been old enough to have him as her teacher before he died. Gerson goes as far as saying Susie reminds him of someone, and his entire vibe with her was very much a student teacher relationship. Isn't that the scenario that makes the most sense? She could give the crystal to someone she knows is just a dark world copy of the real guy.
>>557646725i would kek because it would make the rape fetishists pout like little babies
>>557647108tasquemanager is barely a character, our current tasquetard has admitted that's why he likes her.
>>557646797I don't have fingers or arms or legs tell me
>>557647354It's an universal phenomenon characterfags latch on minor characters because they can project their shitty personality onto them easier and make a brand out of it
New Jaru video is out. Playershit btfo.https://youtu.be/6gfK1SAm84E
>>557647226Good reasoning>>557642048What if battat is always on crazy schizo shit but pluey and jongler are just along for the ride and having fun role-playing as cats and cowboys. Battat either sees it as meaningful that Mike would be these things and works it into his theories, or it's just a total coincidence that their interests line up with actual theory stuff and it's driving battat insane
Well, since fave says they are not hungry I guess I have no choice but to eat it all myself
>>557647449He's a Jew.
>>557647108All I’m saying is that cyan and white color combos are extremely bad juju
>>557646352>Only 5 votes for latex/rubberCmon guys that's the hottest thing on there
>>557647640elaborate on this? patience and determination but nothing else leads to inane stubbornness (going by underrune color symbolism)
>>557647567Is this the guy who said Dess is just a whore
>>557647193>Gerson goes as far as saying Susie reminds him of someone, and his entire vibe with her was very much a student teacher relationshipThis does make sense and is cute but the rest is just more speculation vs solid evidence
do people watch theory videos with ai voices? i feel i have enough for a video but i am NOT putting my real name on a theory video for a toby fucks game
>>557647640Not necessarily cyan but I think based on this general’s history it’s moreso blue and white:>Tasque Manager>Berdly>King
>>557647615how many times do you eat pizza in a week?
>>557648089whoaw... based...>>557648246but lancer is god here.
>>557646953yeah good point I'll come up with some spicy and funny insults for tomorrow.
>>557648246Argentinabros how will we survive this slander
>>557647193The person that susie reminds him of could be carol or rudy, most likely rudy given his general tough attitude
>>557647673I like it visually and in a fashion sense but i have no fetish for it
>>557648174There's a whole AI channel that gets hundreds of thousands of views on every video but I personally wouldn't even watch 10 seconds
>>557648516that's understandable
>>557648342Every Argentinian poster has been terrible.
>>557616656My wives are so cute
>>557648174Boot up Moonbase Alpha and feed all the lines of your video through that game specifically, otherwise I ain't watching that shit
>>557625668That's a girl (very sexy one)
>>557648383Why would it be Rudy instead of the person Susie keeps being paralleled with
>>557648516if it's the seam=gaster person i'm pretty sure that guy gets AI to write their sloppa as well, which it's kind of hilarious to wonder how much AI knows about deltarune theories.
I trained an AI on all the postings and works of Toby Fox and asked it to tell me the ending of Deltarune, and it called me a faggot.
>>557648827>the person Susie keeps being paralleled withi dont think toby would imply emotional incest on purpose. accidentally because he's retarded, yes. but not on purpose.
>>557648089No, this is the guy that said both Dess and Kris wanted Asriel’s dick
>>557648931that was toby irl
>>557648469I've tried some myself before and I think what does it for me is the physical sensation and how it smells, very very hot
>>557648174I got used to and enjoy halfbreadchaos, but Microsoft sam >>>>>>>> AI voices
>>557648657Hoomans are cute.
>>557648982I don't care if it's implying emotional incest or not, Susie literally plays Dess's guitar and Noelle just so happens to bring up Dess on the Ferris wheel.
>>557648850Yes it's Wiztale, the voice is also AI. I don't think there's any human touch at all actually. The scripts are ear-bleedingly robotic and straight up wrong most of the time as AI straight up doesn't know the plot and hallucinates everything. I don't think he even proofreads the script he gets from chatgpt. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole channel was some sort of script running on its own with no human supervision
>>557647567What even is the point of this video. All he's saying is seethe over people making Gaster theories. Nobody is forcing him to think Gaster as a purely meta character. Maybe people would take his takes more seriously if they didn't suck
>>557616051FUCK, I missed lingerie
Toby Fox is the Knight
I am the knight. AMA.
>>557649703Why are you Black
>>557649703Can you hit Kris even harder next time you fight? Preferably enough to do brain damage?
>>557649343PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPPLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPPLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPPLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>557649140I feel like that makes it not sexy for me, very uncomfortable. Looks cool as fuck though. What did you try
>>557649316this made me look it up, and apparently microsoft speech also shipped with another voice called.... MIKE
>>557649896Ive owned a couple catsuits mostly, gloves, socks, It's a pricey hobby unfortunately so there's still a lot I'd like to try
>>557648174AI voices are so cancer, I'm not even an anti-AI guy I just can't stand the sound of it. You don't need to put your name on anything, just your voice. You probably sound like every other theory loving schmuck anyway
>>557649316My headcanon is that Queen speaks with one of the Microsoft voices.
>>557650096I don't have my glasses on so I thought the artist gave Battatt acne
>>557648783*boy
>>557650248I've said it before but there is no voice better for her than the 2022 tiktok sassy perky girl ai voice
>>557649838Calm down...
>>557650181Thats crazy, I've actually entertained the thought of buying a catsuit before but i would want to be down to my goal weight of bone thin for it. And why would I even get it other than selfies. I also don't buy EGL fashion for the same reason.
>>557650459*goy
the angel…
>>557649567I actually don't mind it too much. He's just saying the fans should have an open mind and explaining how the meta elements are just things that exist in-universe. It's not a bad theory for a Jaru video.
>>557650614It's not a bad theory because he isn't coming up with any wacky shit like father Alvin being kris's father and is instead just discussing the plot and themes as presented in-game
>>557650473the jessie one?
>>557650473I mostly just associate her sense of humor with wacky Gmod videos where sometimes text-to-speech would be used instead of voice acting. I love how awkward those old voices sound.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flx_M2OEFBE
>>557650614>He's just saying the fans should have an open mindSays the guy with one of the most closed minds who's been stuck on the same weakass fanfiction theories he's had since Chapter 1.
>>557648174I don't usually watch theory videos, I prefer text, but I don't mind. Plus I know if I had to make a video I'd use one too so I don't flashbang the viewer with poorly-worded squeaky ESL croaking about something that is objectively correct and ruin their impression of it.
<3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPoiv0sZ4s4
>>557616051someone added paizuri after i voted so it has an invisible +1 ok
>>557650904>im right behind you>procedurally lowering the sound of my voice I fucking love queen so much
Master Jaru is too smart for this general
>>557650486It's definetly an acquired taste and not for everyone, id say I'm probs more kinky than most desu
Mister Sans will have sex with me from now on, Kris.
I will never watch a youtube theory video because the concept of someone monetizing theories gives me the ick. No, your ideas are not worth money, it is something to do while we wait. Once we have the REAL product, your video is irrelevant, and anons who do not post the content and summary of said videos on here are the video owners themselves shilling their slop.
Speaking of theories and Seam. I think Seam is a darkner made in the likeness of a lightner.That lightner has a fictional character in a movie or game based on them and Seam is a plushie of that character.That lightner is also a human, specifically the human we see in the intro of Undertale, one of the sorcerers sealing the monsters away.AND that human is also Gaster, because skeletons actually do descend from Humans like an inverse of that one Papyrus line (this also makes for a Homestuck reference)Oh and he was Gerson's boyfriend.Oh and the reason monsters got sealed underground wasn't because humans and monsters didn't get along but it was an attempt to stop people from gathering souls and becoming too powerful.How do I know all of this? It was revealed in a dream but I swear there's evidence here and there that supports this.
hows it going /utg/ any dumb shit happening again?
>>557649703Hi Noelle
>>557651860noelle knight real
>>557651564as cute as this is I have a feeling GLaDOS would insult the hell out of the queen and hate her right away
>>557651259go tell him that on his discord
>>557651929Queen would have to impress her with some kind of novelty, like enslaving a plugboy and making a werewire, but she wouldn't do that to impress GLaDOS, it would have to be coincidental
>>557651965OR you can tell me how smart I am. Seriously, the people are clueless, but I've already figured out that Chapter 5's dark world is going to take place in Flower King. Cool, right?
Did Toby really made a fucking Amogus reference in 2025? What the fuck was he thinking?
>>557651929they would have beef on sight. queen wants to make people happy even and especially if it's against their will, poisoning them is not her style. the closest they would come to getting along is if glados convinced her that chell actually loved testing and queen's gullibility setting was on high. if she knew chell hated it, queen would dip.
>>557609748was rudy's toriel porn illustrated or filmed?
1225room is the weirdest moment until now in the game
>>557652110>The sussy spacemen RAPED ME
>>557652110nothing
>>557652159Both.(Carol did the painting hersef)
>>557652110he was trying to make the timeline cause insanity, considering noelle was supposed to be alive in 1997
I love these fucking things
Deltarune but the characters age between release
>>557652110one of the members of his team forced him to add it
Genuinely, what the fuck is Toby’s endgame with Spamtenna? If they don’t get back together, it’ll feel like a waste of time. If they do get back together, it’ll go against everything UTDR says about doomed relationships.
>>557651929That'd be a fun rivalry to watch - a supercomputer with a huge ego vs. a laptop who knows that she's kinda stupid but doesn't care and bullshits her way out of anything. Queen would probably end up losing - technically - but she'd find some silver lining about it in a way that would piss GLADOS off immensely.
>>557652525That's just MOTHER 3.
>>557652668There used to be a werewirefag on /utg/ a long time ago. I wonder what he's doing these days. Probably jacking off to transformation and assimilation porn
>>557652635Bait tumblrinas.
>>557616051I forgot to put traps in other
super amazing and awesome ontopic image of rouxls kaardalso 4chan theme idea for a NITW theme https://files.catbox.moe/azgco8.png
Tenna is evil for wanting to be a background character in mettaton house.He should have fought for relevancy and with spamton and mike create a great narrative.
>>557647478rude, I say I did a pretty good job. https://files.catbox.moe/p0ncb2.odt
>>557652525>/utg/ dies out
>>557652590Cope
unless swatch and spamton's beef is resolved onscreen, i'm burning down tobycorp.
>>557652826There were a bunch of us immediately after chapter 2 (I'm probably not the one you're thinking of)One of these days I'll put the shit I wrote back then on AO3
>>557652826I just think they are neat
>>557652987>>557652525Oh no.
>>557653178they are neat. i want the werewire ramb boss now already.
>>557653178this is a cool idea. cat and dog plusboys
>>557652635>Genuinely, what the fuck is Toby’s endgame with Spamtenna?WE'VE GOT TO HAVE MMMMONEYY
>>557651156Groovyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wvst3NdlNY
>>557652975I want to know what's in this file you always post but I'm not opening whatever the hell kind of dutch potatonian file format a ".odt" isCan you or someone put it in a rentry or pastebin or something
>>557652635They’ll reconcile just in time for MTT to become relevant, take him on as a protege, and relaunch their act. The fact that you can even give Tenna away to him makes it fairly obvious that their paths are meant to converge one way or another.
>>557652635mettaton will kill both.
>>557653458>>557653480Mettaton is washed up
>>557652635To quote NAVGTR (George Wood):>If this storyline is truly to reach epic levels, then I hope one of the lovers die.
>>557653256ive seen multiple designs for this concept, its a cool idea
moomin'
>>557652401Didnt know that toby was a TF chad until i played ch2 for the first time
>>557652635they will get back together in the end credits
>>557653781>the werewires>Spamton>the KnightTFchads just keep winning.
>>557653430Lold I think odt is openoffice, maybe libreoffice, but its a normal file formatBut yeah seriously my firewall hates catbox and i wish you guys would stop using it, too
>>557653918Why is he being milked
>>557653918I fuck very heavily with the elongated body and ears and the cool awkward pose on these
why does cibles voice change in every short?
>>557652110>haha this is gonna be epic!>Toby working on that part in 2022
>>557653918lads...they made him posh...
>>557654051power stripe
>>557654051Tenna wants milkies
Gaster making a six seven joke in the ending of chapter 5
>>557653430oppenoficce, but I can pdf it cuz it has images. https://files.catbox.moe/aa4j2c.pdf
>>557654257Tenna should drink directly from ramb's succulent udders
If Deltarune Chapter 5 doesn't reveal who the Knight is and what its plan is and we have to wait 2+ years for more will the fandom survive
>>557653845In a perfect world, Spamton would have died after his boss fight and there would be a credits scene with Tenna grieving as he holds the Dealmakers/Puppet Scarf the same way Deku Butler grieved over his dead son in the credits for Majora’s Mask.
>>557654175After accidentally watching a cibles short I was astounded by how horrendously annoying their voice and personality are. Truly fitting for a mug like that
>>557654216these are awesome>>557654234if they put it on his back he would look like a dragon
>>557654294I would shoot myself.
FRISK DAISUKI! CHARA DAISUKI! HOOMANS DAISUKI!
>>557654036>catboxit's porn, it's always just porn
>>557654139Me too x1000, i love werewires weird curves.
>>557654360no in fact i'll start killing people in real life
>>557654189Mettaton looks pregnant
>>557654513fun fact toby designed this monster himself and he's proud of it. as he should be
>>557654513No, I like it x1000 already you can't add that
>>557654489that's not true, people use it for videos too
>>557654851I like how soft this one looks, like you could grab it across the waist and lift it up, and it'd just sort of hang in your hands like a ragdoll.
>>557654189Anterior pelvic tilt
The best thing about Deltarune is that I keep getting older, but the faves stay the same
>Freedom motif is literally just lost girl>The character that desires freedom the most is Noelle>She implants that desire for freedom and thus the motif into darkners with the shadow crystals when she makes the dark worlds>The only time the motif appears without a crystal is in Air Waves, a song linked to Cat Petterz>In wachifield Noel is the one leading shadows to Satan's foresthttps://files.catbox.moe/xx1ns5.mp4What's driving me crazy is that Noelle knight is never even CONSIDERED let alone mentioned when the knight is discussed. I spent hours looking for Noelle knight theories, there's an old one that was pretty good and there's a new one made very recently that didn't get much attention, it was pretty good but it made a few mistakes and I think got the bigger picture wrong. Outside those, there are NO mentions of Noelle knight and if someone does put the idea forward on twitter or reddit it's either treated as a joke or downvoted to hell. It's actually so funny looking up Noelle knight on reddit, literally all the posts about it have 0 votes.I really wonder how Toby feels about this. He's probably giggling and kicking his feet, I know I would be.
>>557654360If you asked me a year ago I would have said it depends on how good the schizoboss is, but Tenna shows that a funny man will do regardless of the role. Maybe Friend will fit the bill this time.
>>557655305Lmaoooooooooo good cosplay
>>557655212How plausible is this theory truly? I don't think these books were even translated until recently, what are the chances Toby was reading Japanese children's books while in college?
>>557655212Does it make for a good story, THOUGH?
>>557655212lmao i know which video you ripped this from. could be that toby's getting lazy, but what do i know?
>>557655439only the story about the satan of the woods stealing shadows sorta fit in with what could have potentially happened to Dess, the other ones from the doc just had common terms in regards to the cold and north.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1w_pWTQnwU
>>557655773ramb has contracted type diabetes, this is so sad
>>557655765Show this to Vinny Vinesauce. I don't know how, just make it happen
>>557655212Noelle is already such an important character it just feels overloading desu. Also I don't find it a particularly interesting theory. Doesn't feel thematically as cool as Dess or has the aura farming memes of Carol and Rudy. I wouldn't like it to be true.
>>557655707an artist drawing kris in a masculine way and not just as a they (female lite)??? this is rare
>>557656000you have my attention
>>557656000SCC getting snagged by the wires and getting forcefully combined into an electric abomination would honestly be a pretty cool idea for a mid-boss.
>>557656126It would've also been a good way to show how Queen's rule affects Darkners we actually care about (or at least have had a conversation with) which I think chapter 2 struggled with
>>557656126It would have meant actual substance for their """sideplot"""
>>557656036you can give your androgynous hero a lil facial hair as a treat sometimes
>>557656373Smash. Next question.
>>557655445The story being better is what truly sold me on Noelle knight.It makes for the perfect twist that was hidden in plain sight, it's literally so obvious when you play the game ASSUMING Noelle is the knight but it still somehow makes for a twist.Imagine the fun gang unmasking the knight and it's Noelle, no way you'd get that catharsis from Carol or Dess.It makes CH2 a microcosm of the whole story.It explores the depths of Noelle's character.It sets up future tragedy, Noelle having to fight her friends, the girl she loves and maybe eventually hurt or even kill them.But I think giving the player a legitimate reason to try the weird route is it's biggest strength. Right now the player has no excuse, no set goal in mind, no motivation, no reason to do weird route but it makes perfect sense for the player to try and get the knight under their own control.Thus far, taking control of the knight is the only thing that gives us a reason to do weird route, it unlocks to whole story in a way.Everything about the story clicks into place AND the whole game turns into 4D chess with everyone pulling Noelle a certain way, tearing her apart in the process.And after everything, by not finding Dess under that helmet we get to experience the same loss Noelle felt, we thought we were so close only to get hit with the ice shockingly cold hard truth that she's gone. It's poetic.>>557656020I think the aura farming works so well with Noelle being a cute dork who thinks Kris is the coolest person ever and she decides to copy them.
Queen not being even 30% more evil was a huge missed opportunity and I'll never understand why they made her less complex.
I hope the Knight is a new character so that everyone is wrong.
>>557656723It is Toby Fox and no one will convince me otherwise
>>557656848the knight will do a kick flip and fall into lava
>>557653404Nice, a new artist to explore. My music is all over the place today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5_q_33wqY
>>557656508I dont hate the theory but anything that involves taking control of the knight gives Jade Empire and invokes Toby Hackism
would toby ever sell thev rights to the franchise to some huge name?oh just have them borrow t. doesnteven need to be for game stuf like what if universal just decided this deltarune stuff wa popular enough thattheyd want to open a mini theme park in their existing parks even if just a DARK ride or something
the knight are the friends we made along the way
New lore video just droppedhttps://youtu.be/-jwxTf-EzXw
guys the knight is kris himself. he got horns because kris always wanted them and dess is just a red herring
>>557656508...Nah, I'm not sold. I don't like this. Still prefer Dess Knight and everything surrounding it. This theory puts far too much on Noelle's shoulders when you can still explore plenty of her character without being the Knight without choking the narrative with her importance.
>>557656508I think i'm sold on that noelle knight idea, have you thought about posting about the noelle knight theory online? I think it could gain traction as a legitimate theory if there were actual posts discussing it
>>557657075heck I can imagine a undertale ride at six flags or something
>>557655707I need to be raped by this Kris holy shit
>>557616051>3 votes for RaceplayWe uuuuupppppp
>>557641726I want to rape this Ralsei so bad.
>>557657452ralsei...
and a hundred percent reason to remember the fave
>>557657452>>557657524
>>557657452It's not rape if you want it
>>557655707too masc for me
>>557657643it's cnc
>>557657452Noelle...
>>557657452berdly...
i was going to reply to noelleknight guy then i realised i misread his postanyway, since we are werewire posting, read the werewire description which i'm sure is in no way relevant to the knight.>Controlled by the Queen's wire, it's sleepwalking through a nightmare!
kris but gloob
>>557657452Toriel...
>>557657917good post, the strongest is obviously the soul.
>>557658025all in on Noelle Fong Wong
>>557658025If Noelle really is the Knight and it's like an unconscious persona of hers, the Weird Route might exist at all because the player is able to tap into that persona for its use.
Sex with Berdly
>>557658126Awww
>>557658228>>557656508Why doesn't Kris just tell her to stop opening fountains and stop the world from ending? Is Kris stupid?
>>557658025Oh cool, I only remember when that line was used for Kris Knight. More evidence for the person in the code being the Knight!
>>557657643I don't want it I need it
>>557657452Asriel...
The Knight is Dess, but she can only manifest by posessing another person.In Chapter 1, it's impossible to guess, possibly Carol?In Chapter 2, that's Noelle, which is why Chapter 2 is so centered around her.In Chapter 3, that's Rudy, which is why he gets so weak the next day.In Chapter 4, that's Alvin, which is how Gerson is able to manifest.
>>557657452Monster Kid...
>>557658339>shoves kris up my ass
>>557658413This actually makes too much sense, I'm a multi-Knight truther.All we need is Papyrus Knight.
>>557657452Mr. Pewterschmidt...
>>557658413>In Chapter 1, it's impossible to guess, possibly Carol?There is speculation that Alphys is a part of the conspiracy in some limited capacity, so perhaps it could be her?
>>557658413>throwing dess's only characterization, that she is an overprotective sister, in the toiletwhy
>>557658552He's scared because he knows the transformation comes with a dick upgrade and he's not sure if he can handle the new meat
Why didn't we get no newsletter? This is so stupid!
>>557657452Sans...
Noelleknight reveal be like>* The Knight is almost down!>*...>*music fades out*>*The Knight is charging....!>*...>*Kris (first words of the game):..!>*Kris empties your inventory on Susie!>*Susie: What the-!>*Kris jumps in front of Susie with the shield>*The Knight casts SnowgraveSusie does not survive this, Kris and Ralsei knew all along
>>557658914You've been naughty this year, anon. Naughty children don't get content.
>>557657452zelda...
the knight reveal has to make sense if you only played neutral or pacifist. if it relies on something only established in weird route, like that noelle is OP and can kill people, it does not work.
>>557657452Princess Bubblegum...
>>557658914Toby read the angry posts about the emails not revealing lore and wanting the game and felt bad so he is back in the cave and does not keep track of the days, again
>>557658914he knows the fandom will read it voraciously and he doesn't have the time or bandwidth to find decorative sprites that don't spoiler anything for the schizos.
>>557659146The Weird Route should have never been allowed to be playable before the full game was complete. All of its problems come down to this simple question of why would you do any of that with no context, it just doesn't work.
>>557659146the plug guys in the intro from ch 2 can be interpreted as being frightened by Noelle for some reason
>>557657028Nothing wrong enjoying a little varietyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtTgSvFvPPc
>>557658312It would sabotage the mission and reveal who the knight is too early>>557658228Do remember all the dialogue about waking up and sleeping during the weird run, with even queen saying that noelle has awakened too much, so these things would make sense if its like an allegory or reference to making noelle's knight side prominent and having her embrace it, imagine being able to choose between following through the knight's plan on YOUR own terms and getting kris, ralsei, Carol, friend, gaster and whoever else is on the know to shit their pants from fear as you REFUSE to save the world (basically, karma blowing up in their faces after everything theyve done), or ruining the roaring groupchat's plan from the inside with the knight's will and breaking a lot of lives in the process (maybe you fuck up carol's reputation and get her fired, then kris' friendship with susie is obliterated and everything goes to shit on their own life and so they begrudingly come back to US and joins the possessed knight as they have nothing left in their life already, making the kriselle weird run arc do a full circle as we now manipulate kris to do OUR bidding, in the end saving the world in a worse outcome than the main route, just like how ralsei said at the end of ch4 (curiously enough, ralsei only says that if you comfort ralsei at the end of ch4 weird route, foreshadowing a nicer weird route conclusion thats still worse than the main route but doesnt end in the end of everything)
>>557659479they're frightened of her because she shot ice at them, as she is canonically scared of plugs that look like they have faces. susie does pretty much the same thing in chapter 1 by beating up everyone she passes.
The Knight is Dess because Toby likes Mother 3.
>>557659440The game needs a genocide equivalent. Part of the reason why Undertale was so powerful was because you have to go out of your way to be a pacifist.
>>557659628if toby actually ripped off that twist, the knight would be asriel.
Noelle Knight, but Sakura from Heaven's Feel Fate Stay NightEdgy chuuni mind broken power hungry Noelle taking up chapters 6 and 7
>>557659146Queen says that she wants to capture noelle because she's strong, so its not like it wouldnt be foreshadowed
>>557658914toby hates you for not being Japanese
>>557659628The knight being Dess would be more of an earthbound halloween hack reference, given dess parallels ness in many ways
>>557659756There isn't a real twist though, it's very blatant who the Masked Man is.The thing Toby is copying is the obviousness behind that identity.However if Toby had made Deltarune first, Asriel would've been the Knight.
>>557659603there was a guy ages back who believed in noelle knight and would post about it, but he never made a rentry, doc or graphic. is that you?
>>557658914it's not even spring yet
extremely convoluted Knight theory where Kris donated his original SOUL to Carol so she could use his memories of Dess to create the Knight and hunt for the real Dess in the Dark Worlds and resurrect her
>>557660196why get a random ass kid's memories instead of your own for your own daughter
i don't believe in noelle knight but it passes the only test that matters>would college age toby have thought this was cool?
>>557660293She doesn't want to rip out her own SOUL and lobotomize herself
EXTREMELY BASED AND COOL THEORY WHERE THE GREAT PAPYRUS IS THE ROARING KNIGHT SO HE COULD BRING THE MAGIC OF THE DARK WORLDS TO EVERYONE AND BE COOL AND LOVED AND HAVE MY- I MEAN HIS FRIEND COUNT INCREASE INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS!!!
Kris isn't working with Carol. SOUL is.the red you is the SOUL and in the weird route carol says noelle is looking foward to see you cuz you(soul) brainwashed her with the ring and now she is acting like that and Carol doesn't realise the reason
the knight is actually CoL himself
>>557660076No, im just kinda convinced by the theory now, so im trying to look at things from a noelle knight perspective
Why would Chara make Noelle steal Papyrus's Roaring Knight costume???
>>557616051Very interesting
>>557660394Papyrus cheerfully, obliviously kicking off the apocalypse like Berdly almost did but no one stops him cause he has no memories of fun gang in UT
>>557660293Because if carol was the one with the player soul, toby would have to make the cold homophobic rich european white mother the main protagonist, which isnt woke enough for toby so you dont get that
>>557659440We have to cope with this.I am sure Toby even asked around and the jap devs probably told him the same thing:>good idea, but it will have to viewed as part of the product as a whole, not by release, and must be made parallel with the normal story, else the devtime will be even longer
>>557659628I mean Toby did say that if MOTHER 3 ever got localized people would see how unoriginal he is so you might be on to something
>>557660528It was never Papyrus's, he was just holding it for Mettaton
The ending will be about clopeness, twilight reverie, the edge of the shadow, where reality and dream meet.Fusion of dark and light world will happen somehow.
>>557660968ngl, that would be kino
thank you to everyone who commented about my question with the ai voicesi'm probably just going to make a rentry at least short term. i think people don't read graphics.
>>557660968Why wouldnt the prophecy say that? And if thats the final prophecy, why would susie and "obviously" ralsei oppose that? Did they watch star vs the forces of evil's ending?
>>557660968Actually the ending will be about Sans activating his cool flaming eye and saying "you've done it now, kiddo" before he and Chara-Kris NEO fight in the ruins of the post-Roaring world and Sans almost loses but Gaster gives him the Ultra Gasterblaster EX that destroys Chara-Kris NEO but uses all of Sans's health and reduces him to 1 HP.Then the Noelle Angel and Gaster build the space-time machine that sends him to Undertale
>>557659483This RULES, thank you.Throwing one more song up before I go, I'm just super nostalgic for this album.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxfJ3xW38ec
>>557661316why are you guys being so boring? is reading the 500th comment about killing tasquefag somehow better than this?
>>557661250I don't think the prophecy ending is the ending toby dreamed desu.
The Prophecy should and has to end with the Tragedy because people yearn for a bittersweet tragic greek tale that speaks about the human experience and its anguishes and that's what make the story worth it. Trying to change it is ruining a perfectly good ending with a sappy finale everything goes perfectly fine with no impact.Which is why the Weird Route will end with an awful unsatisfying desecration of the game altogether. You ruined everything, you deserve no prize.
i am too stupid and nobody will elevate me into sentience
>>557661713Toby is a libtard so he would unironically do a golden ending where all that's well ends well and everybody is now happy yippie like niggertale and the fans will eat it up and say it's awesomekino
Jaru might be right about the player.One of the strongest evidence used for; gaster talking to the literally player when twitting is actually against if you read the actual first tweet about deltarune it implies that "you" should feel the black wind but it doesn't make sense if it refers to the real player.
