Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!/sthg/ #9107 - Bad girlfriend edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 11 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 08 April 2026DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 13 May 2026Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious zone: >>558807157
>>558858307COSMO THE FUCKING ROSE BUSH
>>558858307>No KnucklesFeels Bad Man
Shitangle and Shitsper have ruined the fandom even more.
>>558858469This thread was made before your request
This account is clearly ragebait made to make people who like IDW Sonic look stupid and people keep falling for it
>>558858550Then I reiterate my request for the next one
Good boy, you got the namefag!
Is he right?
>>558858307Kinda fucked up she died and was reborn as a flowering plant meaning she's probably being pollinated by every plant in a five mile radius leaving tails in a perpetual state of cuckdom.Personally I don't think he deserves that
>>558858640No, I think that person is just that stupid. However, I don’t think speak for all people who like IDW.
>>558858795I thought so at first but it's too carefully crafted. He knows exactly what to say to set people off and intentionally makes obtuse points to defend himself once he gets someone hooked >Jet was always a loser >*Person posts examples from the games*>Well the games are a minority of Jet's appearances compared to IDW!That is a slip up. They are clearly ragebaiting.
>people who like IDW Sonic look stupid and people keep falling for itWith how garbage is the writing IDWfags don't need anyone to make them look stupid.You just have a shit taste.
>>558858848cute!
Sheep wife
Did you know cosmos is a real flower?
Why does this one samefag use xitterspacing in all of xir posts?
>>558858901You can hate IDW all you want but this person said that Ian Flynn and Evan should take control from the franchise away from the japanese. Even the biggest blue haired IDWfag doesn't believe that.
>>558858901>garbage is the writingESL moment
>>558858727He's correct but also a whiny bitch.Most of Sonic Team is simply terrible at game design and their understanding of mechanics is superficial. They don't understand why things are the way they are, they think the things themselves have some quality to them, and including them adds that quality to the game.Like, what is the point of a spring? Does Sonic Team even know? Or is are they just putting in a spring because Sonic is supposed to have springs?
Two Augusts ago, I told the truthOh, but you didn't like it, you went homeYou're in your Benz, I'm by the gateNow you go alone, charm all the people you train forYou mean well, but aim lowAnd I'll make it known like I'm getting paidThat's just the way life goesI like to slam doors closedTrust me, I know it's always about meI love you, I'm sorryTwo summers from now, we'll have been talkingBut not all that often, we're cool nowI'll be on a boat, you're on a planeGoing somewhere, sameAnd I'll have a drink, wistfully lean out my windowAnd watch the sun set on the lakeI might not feel real, but it's okay, mm'Cause that's just the way life goesI push my luck, it showsThankful you don't send someone to kill meI love you, I'm sorryYou were the best but you were the worstAs sick as it sounds, I loved you firstI was a dick, it is what it isA habit to kick, the age-old curseI tend to laugh whenever I'm sadI stare at the crash, it actually worksMaking amends, this shit never endsI'm wrong again, wrong againThe way life goesJoyriding down our road Lay on the horn to prove that it haunts me I love you, I'm sorryThe way life goes I wanna speak in code Hope that I don't, won't Make it about me I love you, I'm sorry
the latest idw comic emasculates jet to push sonadow shipping bait for twitter
>>558859019I think creative control of the comics should be given to ABT.
>>558858727He’s right about Superstars being uninspired. He’s wrong about Mania being bad (which seems to be something he is saying implicitly).
Who the fuck is Jet?
I want to die
Riddle me this. Why did Jet lose in the animation (last place) but IDW takes the blame? People, yet again, not realizing ALL THIS is SUPERVISED by Sega. Jet is like this BECAUSE Sega want him that way
I wanna fuck Cream the rabbit
>>558859242Sage, I want you to stay with Bump, the amazing two you are.
>>558859139>ABT takes control>it's nothing but shitty fanservice to sell off-brand ecchi
>>558859269Shadowbro btw
>>558858848Good night
>>558859290Bump hasn’t had sex with me in three days. My life is over.
>>558859304>Sonic Underground all over again Most uncomfortable boners I've ever had
>>558858993Yes I did know that. I know it because I used to play Animal Crossing Wild World as a kid.
>>558859434based
the only thing the new comic does wrong is have shadow take part in a car race when this is just a waste of time to him
>>558859372Oh Sage, you could have just told me! Wanna bang right now? You seemed a bit moody, so I didn’t want to bother you, but if you want to we can do it now!
>checks newsno wonder the politics posts were amplified in the last thread
>>558859496That just proves how out of place Shadow is in the franchise.
>>558859245but what about Knuckles :(but what about Silver :(but what about Metal :(but what about Blaze :(
>>558859583I don't think Shadow should appear at all unless it's the kind of situation where it's weird if he doesn't appear like the world ending. It is impossible to believably have him going to birthday parties or sports events.
Tangle is fucking annoying.
>>558859496Shadow is being forced to be there because of Rouge. ReadThe ComicYouAre Complaining About
>>558859771here is an improved tangle
Reply if you are catholic
>>558859828Shadow is under no obligation to humor Rouge.
The dlc characters are still mute
>>558859828 I read it and I still think that's retarded. I can't hear any version of Shadow actually going no matter what he's offered. Rouge can't force Shadow to do anything. He doesn't take orders from anyone.
>>558859921Haram
Don't reply to me again, you fool.
>>558859921Are we doing this now? I’m a Baptist myself, but Catholic isn’t a real Christian religion.
>>558859925>>558859965Play Shadow Generations
>>558859561Ok
>>558860012Hmmm nyo.
>>558860012Shadow Generations is meta era crap
Reminder to report and ignore offtopic posts
>IMG_Go to sleep already loser.
>>558859921Pax tecum, brother
>>558857883I told her a riddle and her brain got fried. I tried hitting her g spot to reset her but that didn’t work. What do I do HELP
>>558860058>>558860110So you are going to complain about the comics while refusing to know what's happening in the games?
>>558859304>Lanolin: Here's our next mission team, we need to go undercover at Mystic Springs Oasis because reasons.>Tangle: Isn't that a naturalist club?>Lanolin: Yes, so we'll need to- WHISPER STOP LICKING THOSE BATTERIES!- so we'll need to go completely nude to blend in.>Whisper: *licks a battery* uuuu Tangle my tongue hurts....Imagine it
>>558859879
>>558860201Nothing from the games after Colors is worth being taken seriously, so yes.
>>558860201Anything past Unleashed is not worth spit.
>>558859702I wish there would be more epic and tense fights between Sonic and Shadow like how 2000s fan art portrayed them. We really have underestimated how much the fandom has propped up Sonic and kept the franchise alive
>>558859879>redditspacing
Sonadow is a worse mischaracterization than anything the west has ever done and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
OH MY GOD CAN YOU FAGGOTS PLEASE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP
The games will just ignore all of it. None of it matters.
No, fuck you.
>"Hopecore" characters become popular in the 2020s The Sonic movies probably came out at the perfect time
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
>>558860414It's the worst thing that ever happened to the fandom. It's fujos and other supporters emit obnoxiousness like no other shipping supporter base
>>558860506>Hopecore charactersLike Silver?
How will this effect crazy frog's legacy?
>>558860627I hope
>>558860631Sonadow is overshadowing Craztails as the popular yaoi ship.
>>558860650Silverbros are in a for good time soon
>>558860552Whispangle and the other yuriships like Blazamy and such are worse thoughever
Does anyone actually like Tangle? She's a dipshit.
Would Superman's characterization work for Silver?
>>558860814both of those are better than surgamy.
>>558860814I hate those as well. They bastardize the characters and corrupt the friendships they hav e with each other
>>558860827She's kind of alright imo in a conceptual way.
You guys act like the comics have zero redeeming qualities.
uu...
>>558860991The only good thing about them is Zavok.
>>558860827I like the idea of Tangle being a Goku like character that contrasts with Sonic himself. Her early appearances almost feel like that. I don't hate her with Whisper and I don't necessarily want them to eliminate her dynamic but it feels like they do just write them together because it appeals to fans. It's the same interaction on repeat.
>>558860827I like her design I guess
Best Silver skin
So, when will they tease the next game? I'm craving something to nitpick at for not meeting my expectations.
>>558859921Best Amy we had recently.
Sonic the rat
>>558861126silver if he debuted in 2006
>>558860852Not Whispangle lol.
>>558861164In two or 3 months when the Twitter countdown is over
>>558858307>>558858778Don't worry, she's not canon so it never happened.
>>558860814They are not. But you have a good argument with Whispangle, but I can't even read quotes without some white bitch screaming about the bottom panel here >>558859245
I'll like IDW whenever it's in-character. Call me when Barnes writes every single issue.
>>558861382It's always the White Sonadow fujos, isn't it?
>>558861348worm sword....
>>558861403Why was blaze so racist in this game?
>>558860627This post just gave me an epiphany. Like actually just orgasmic levels of thought reorganizing. Wow. The bad future and potentialfags were right the whole time.
>>558861403Blaze is racist
IDW Silver is more interesting than the games attempt at just shoving Trunks's character into the canon
>>558861382>>558861430Success breeds jealousy
>>558861635Blue Amy Gay Sonamy
>>558861596Just say you want to see Silver wearing a maid cafe dress like a sissy
>>558861596No fuck you, we're hopepilled here now.
all it takes is one bad comic not made by ian or evan for the usual idw defenders to start ripping it to shreds
Silver is soft. And he is going to punch Nazis with his cute soft punches
>>558862198But Iblis is just a poor lost refugee looking for a better life.
nega solaris was cool
This is the true Silver
>>558862586Shadow and Silver's super forms are just lamer versions of Sonic's. I hate it.
>>558862586I like this Jojo pose. Is it based on something?
>>558862614Come on. Super SSS is absolute cinema
>>558862742I don't know but I like it too. We need more of this kind of Silver in the games
Silverrapefag getting roasted was hilarious.
Is this average?
Sonic
*cough**wheeze**dies*
>>558859245>bisexual flag behind Sonjet>gay flag behind Sonadow
>>558863067That’s a Mighty fine dick you got there
>>558863198>He knows alphabet flagsLeave
Three Sonics?How dreamy...
>>558863067>For me
Why is this thread so inactive?
>>558863135Glasses, Amy
>>558863353I accept SonicI hope he nocks an arrow for me. It’s been WAAAY too long.
>>558860209pfft
>>558860991What's good about it?
>>558863295I didnt i just stumbled upon some Xitter postI thought gay flag was the rainbow one but its blue for some reason
>>558860209>>558863492ew shit scribbles
>>558863396Monitoring the situation.
>>558863353Can we invite Jet?
>>558863067Remember when Sonic Blitz was supposed to be the return of Archie? Lol.
>>558863598first reply is pretty good actuallybut thank you, I always aim to make the shittiest drawings
Who would win in a battle if:>Sonic didn’t have speed or shoes>Knuckles didn’t have strength or spikes
>sonic won't tap thisIs he gay?
>>558863379Drinkiona.
>>558863492Jej make more
>>558863743>so far down the pipeline that I immediately notice Amy's forearm is twice the thicknessDrawing was a mistake.
I'm so fat retarded and gay
>>558863737Sonic because there's nothing implying Sonic won't have his own strength but Knuckles will be lacking his own
>>558863743Where are her booba
>>558863832IDW staff...
>>558863743He's already got cream?
>>558863889Sorry but:>Sonamy>Shadria>Tailseam>Silvaze>Whispangle>knuxougeYou’ve been outmatched
>>558863737>>Sonic didn’t have speedCouldn't move>>Knuckles didn’t have strengthCouldn't pump bloodLooks like Sonic's going to win this one.
LOL why does Tails do this randomly in his story ending in Sonic Adventure? OCD, or dog tic?
>>558864027He has rabies
Knuckles has four dicks
>>558863803guess i have to watch zootopia now
Gay nigga hours?
My pussy smells like sweat and sourdough bread
>>558863832Shut up Whisper
>>558864325Can I smell?
>>558864325Nice
>>558864325>>558864395What is this interaction?
>>558864027Maybe it was a placeholder, or they might've wanted to add some handwaving or something on top of the base animation, but they ran out of time.
>>558864464love
>>558864027Sonic Adventure does this funny thing where instead of making a specific animation for a cutscene it feels like the game takes control of the character. I'm not game design smart enough to describe it.
Sonic in the next scary movie?
>>558864215A four-headed one. This is why the echidnas are dying.
>>558864483And a dose of insanity
Sonic is basically Jean Gray. Extremely boring Gary Stu and all the characters just talk about how amazing and powerful he is but whenever the story is actually focusing on him it's painfully boring because he's unstoppable
>>558863629>picSomeone Sonic attracted those 2 gays still in ChinaHow does it even happen
Why do they keep making Sonic so gay for Shadow?
>>558864325Sounds awesome amy
>>558864687It sells copies. Sonadow is the biggest ship in the fandom. Pandering to them is the smart thing to do.
>>558864687Sonic and Shadow aren't gay. It's just that western writers try to sneak it in because they want brownie points and want to get showered with praises from the terminally online Sonadow fujos
>>558864735Who wouldn't be gay for Shadow? Not into Sonadow, I'm just saying.
>>558864735>Sonadow is the biggest ship in the fandomWrong it’s actually
>IMG_43>IMG_44>IMG_45>IMG_46
>>558864553>Knuckles tries to get laid>what the fuck is that?!>girl leaves>Knuckles>>558864814Sonamy is obligatory main character gets main girl tier romance.
>>558864814These two deserve the digimon treatment
shoutouts to cute sonamy otomes (that's all of them they're all cute)
>>558864814Sonamy will merc all the Sonadow fujos in 2027 and I cannot wait for it. They deserve it for being so obnoxious and for trying to turn a cool rival dynamic into fetish fodder
My fwarking hero is just like me!>>558864027
>>558864965You know they'll just call the movies ooc if they cross that line right? Same as Archie.
>558863969Not even going to dignify this post with a (you), kill yourself for having such shit tastes. If you scroll back up to check if im responding to you specifically I won
>>558864950Sonamy is boring as fuck, but I still don't want to see Sonic get cucked like Tai.
>>558865030Sonamy won't be confined to the movies. it will eventually happen in the games and that's what's going to make the Sonadow fujos have a collective meltdown and quit
>>558865075You aren’t even going to dignify the post with a legitimate reply either
>>558865080I specifically want Sonic to try and ask Amy out only to find out she changed her mind and wants someone else now. It would be the best thing ever.
>>558864027He's showing off his two tails like "y'all seeing this shit? You like me now? Well fawk you I'ma bounce dawg, betcha wish you can fly like me bitch."
It's ok to be gay
>shadow in 2026
>he checkedHehehe I'm feeling good about myself.
>>558865231Nah man. Sonic is supposed to be the untouchable hero. He should have a girl or something before Amy moves on at least.
>>558865102Why did you feel the need to watermark it? But also Scarcos you made this? I’ve seen this in other threads without the watermark so now I know.
>>558865325They also make a funny sound when jumping off bridges.
>Orange man declared war.Lol rip Burgers.
>>558865386Sonic deserves it more than Tai did after years of shilling
>>558863492Kek
I woke up at 2:00am for /sthg/ and found that people are trying to make Sonadow canon. What has this world come to?
>>558865624have you been under a rock for like 10 years
IDW brought in a bunch of illiterate fujo shippers to the fandom who only care about who is kissing who but at least it isn't on the level of Archie's vile crap.
>>558865483It's always the bergs and the entire enstablishment sucks berg cock.
What animal do you want to be seen made as a sonic character? We already have tenrecs, hedgehogs and echidnas so we should get a porcupine next right?
>>558865717that'd be cool
>>558865483Thousands of Murican soldiers are going to die for Jeffrey Epstein and his evil country and then the orange man will try to pass it off a hero victory and say peace through strength. What a clown
Not a single Sonic fan meets the mental qualifications for the united states military
>>558865717Meerkat
>>558864814No, it isntBy a long mile
>>558865658Sonadow fujos are worst than Archie romance drama farmers, believe me
>>558865810everyone here is also too old to enlist
>he stopped posting entirely I won. Again.
>>558865849You're using Tumblr, a site crawling with ultra-progressive fujos and himejoshis.
>>558865483
>>558863969>knuxougeIs this ship actually a thing I thought it was dead like metamy or
>why are you pulling down your pants Mr.Anon?
>>558866018Or what>>558865910Won against who
>>558865717axolotl
>>558866052Why did you follow me into the bathroom?
>>558866052I have to take a shit move out the fucking way
>>558866116 you on your period?
A-are we eligible for drafting??I'm near my 30s.
I rape anyone who talks badly of Sonadow
>>558866159i'm not a chick i just have really bad shitting problems
>>558866181*ahem*Shadow is a nigger
NIGGERDOW SHOT FROM A CANNON
>>558865958oh, how could i forgethow sonifags aren't ultra-progressive fujos and himojoshishow it isn't like that at all
>>558866232That’s a big hemorrhoid bud
Sending niggerdow in Acorn island.
>>558866339>he gets raped by the entire acorn family
>hes still obsessing over my postLet it go little bro you lost. Game over. Finito. Execution. Flawless victory is mine.
>>558866292Way to say they're all mentally ill.
>>558866292Gosh that image makes me sick to my stomach just by looking at it. These sickos aren't fans. They're tourists only in it for the self-insertion and yaoi/yuri, not the lore or gameplay
>>558866305Lord help me
>>558866485WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU AREN’T REPLYING TO ANYONE
>>558866558sage is having "me time"this is how an ai masturbates
I honestly think losing her husband made Gigi lose her mind and she's been taking it out on Sonic instead of getting therapy
>>558866489you're so close to the truth, anonyou can make it
>>558864027>>558865023It's a stimmy...
>>558866181I can’t stop looking at this picture
>>558866596Makes sense to me.Speaking of sexy children what ever happened to 'ge poster?
>>558866697i really like this image
>>558866498Gigi is an attention whore performative breed of lesbonigger, what the internet does to you when you're vulnerable is a warning that you should turn it off.
I hate my periodWho’s with me?
Who let Sally in the chat
>>558866597She will become lesbian
>>558866292>Life an’t that seriousgood point.
>Evan writing as many therapy scenes as possible into IDW so that Gigi subliminally gets the suggestion
>>558866837She could unironically tank this
>>558866801sally loves talking about the beauty of sex
>>558866752idk i guess i hate ur period too
>>558866292how's that she cut breasts of sonic shadow silver and her ocbut she wont do that irl
>>558866752kek I see what you did there
>>558866603Either specify what you want to say or spare me the condescending reddit larp.
>>558867059What do you mean?
>>558867063i want to say that the majority of sonifags are gay and faggotsthey're not interested in sonamystonebotnik is even more popular than sonamy, sonamy lost
Why is everyone cumming over this panel?
>>558867223Ok, do you base this conclusion according to the twitter feed?
>>558867253Her sexy monoeye
>>558867253Sweat, that's basically it
>>558866292>Support palestineWhy are you even supporting a country filled with people that actively want your kind dead?
foxo
>>558867725Chickens for KFC type post.
>>558867725Not to defend leftoids, but the nation slowly killing palestine wants me more dead and enslaved. Kikes are anything but kind.
>>558867725because both of the nations involved are like that rendering it irrelevant as a point
>>558866170The next draft will be decided by an advanced AI. All Minaposters are in.
>>558867253Cute stinky girls activate the penis center of the brain.
>>558868020You are cursed and by god your downfall won't be a gentle one.
>>558867798Fat ass
Fiona does not stink....
I wanna be rosemary
>>558868297Get back, stinky.
>>558868310why
>>558868379lmfao nice shoes
>>558868391I like her
rotorfag should check on richmunks recent art
fox milk
>>558868387>whispers filming her girlfriend getting railed by menSuch a happy cuck
Tails has no fat ass, he just got a toned posterior.
>>558868797Stop thinking about fox butt.
>>558868829
Mina Mongoose is
shit
my idol
>>558868928-ometric rpg
https://files.catbox.moe/wf406f.jpg
>>558868795
Bought some games. Can't wait to play them
>posted cuck porn again award
>>558869279>storm trilogyuhhhh based???
>>558869347Yes
>>558869279How did you not play Mania already?
Bada, Batumdtabish... *ri-ring!*SAWNICK DA HEDGEHOG FOUR, WHADDA WHORESAWNICK DA HEDGEHOG FOUR...! dadadoSAWNICK DA HEDGEHOG FOUR, IT'S A WHORESANICK DA HEDGEHOG FOUR, HE'S SUCH A...WHORE!
>>558869464“If your age is on the clock, I want that cock”
>>558869279
>>558869832Failsfags wishes this was true so fucking badly lmao
>>558867326Point me at a Sonicfag who is not on Xitter
>>558869279Great games! and sonic forces.
>>558869279Great games! and sonic games.
WHITEBOARDhttps://magma.com/d/HBgrbd1pxvhttps://magma.com/d/HBgrbd1pxvhttps://magma.com/d/HBgrbd1pxv
>>558869878Rouge having any remote attraction to tails period is the biggest astroturfed headcanon tailsfags have pushed.
>>558869832Canon
>>558870062compare rouge's rule 34 results for tails to knuckles and shadow. its a hundred times bigger. rails is the biggest rouge ship.
>>558869878>>558870062You lost the porn war, /ss/ still rules supreme.
It just hurts more when they're making Jet a complete buffoon, than they're doing the same with Shitver, you know
Sonic the Hedgehog!
>>558869706lol you can play the original epI in your web browser no caphttps://wamwoowam.co.uk/sonic4/
What are they smoking?
>>558870496so you're telling me i bought this piece of shit for nothing? damn
Fails was made to be a submissive boy toy buttslut for superior cuteboys
Seetherald.
i would rather have mina and cosmo fuck each other
Imagine tails winking gaped asshole after rouge pegs him half to death like a good little femboy slut
>/sthg/ when some poster has the same opinion of a known namefag
>>558871054I like Sonic because he's so cool
>/sthg/ when you're playing with a fictional character in a way you're never supposed to
>>558870585You still need an Episode I save file to unlock Episode Metal in Episode II. There probably isn't compatbility for that, but it should be easy enough to grab any save file online.
>/sthg/
>>558871194How am I supposed to play with CreamWhat's the right way?
>>558870436They can be losers together
>>558871084wood/10.
It feels more and more like the west just has this desperate need to have a shitty loser scapegoat character to mock. Knuckles, Silver, Jet, etc they want a rival that is supposed to be lesser than Shadow in some demeaning way and I don't get why
>>558871243TEA PARTY BITCH
>>558870496this game is as shit as I remember.
>/sthg/ when posting a catbox link
>/sthg/ when the catbox link isn't porn
>>558871286This happens when you let liberal women and canadians write for you.
Sonic is a preachy bitchTails is a cowardKnuckles is a retardAmy is a karen mom girlbossRouge is a girlfailure whoreCream is a retarded babySilver is precious uwu beanBlaze is silver's tardwrangler and forgot her dutiesMetal Sonic is permanent jobberJet is a jobber, gag character and sonic's bitter exWave is team mom of the roguesBut hey at least the idw characters sure are getting represented well
>>558871460lol
>>558871243You FUCK her obviously. Jesus Christ it's like you people don't even listen to me ITS IN HER NAME
>>558871786i'd rather fuck her mom
>>558871610Whore out era.
>>558871286It’s not about Shadow it’s about Sonic. They don’t like the idea that Jet is faster than Sonic by using a hoverboard, as shown in Riders. Since it dismantles their conception of Sonic as like a shonen flash-style hero. My source for this is Ian saying he doesn’t like Jet on his podcast for being the hoverboard guy that’s supposed to beat Sonic, and the twitter fandom circlejerking about how Jet is lame ackshually (twitter which we know Evan is super influenced by)
This series seems to be more focused on being wholesome and quirky than having any action or adventure.
>when literal Steven Universe writers (Chaotix Casefiles) write better Sonic than guys who have been working on Sonic for 20 years now
>>558871860Yaaaaaaasss
>>558871850>My source for this is Ian saying he doesn’t like Jet Very strange since Jet is probably the closest Ian would have to a canon Archie Sonic, just like how Eggman Nega is the closest thing to an Archie Eggman, but Ian hates him too.
>>558871827same. hot lesbian sex with her!!
>>558859304>shitty fanserviceif we get more suggestive stuff from tangle and surge, i don't mind
You know anon i was thinking... this series has a lot of potential! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
>>558871460https://litter.catbox.moe/c6b8i2fevv622y1w.jpg
Maybe next time you'll listen to randomfox when he says Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley are ruining Sonic
Everyone talking about the rogues characterization and rivalries because of these few pages have forgotten this comic is just going to be more idw character shilling because the main story is about Tails and Tangle
>>558872108i dont need randombox to know iti deduced it myself, i have critical thinking skills
Forces and IDW adoption was a complete disaster for japanerds, that unveiled how little ST cares and know about their own IP.
I think it would be funny if this is all just comedic setup for Jet winning the race. It's okay for Sonic (the wind) to lose a competition sometimes even if he is rightfully the best at everything.
KEK! It actually happened. It's grim, but people called it.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/322527764/#322528893https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/322596646/#322623037
>>558871948Well like i said he thinks Jet is nothing but the hoverboard gimmick and can only do extreme gear races.Which like, fair, but that’s only cause they wanna ignore that Jet can and does run without the board too, and ignore the actual Riders syoryline to do with Babylon. You could absolutely use those if you tried.Also they don’t wanna accept that the Extreme Gear were portrayed as faster than Sonic on foot so they can pretend the Extreme Gear aren’t cool and Jet isn’t of use in normal adventures
>>558872080nice
>>558871860i'd prefer a 30/70 mix
>>558872268you're giving them a brobdingnagian benefit of the doubt
>>558871926Is this even remotely true? Chaotix Files isn't really written well and keeps doing shit that nobody cares for, like teasing that one nothingburger female human character.
>>558871460https://files.catbox.moe/gextwp.jpg
>>558872108No we won't because he's too busy being a retard to realize the bigger picture. Why are they being allowed to do it? It's almost as if Sega and Sonic Team.....
I miss the octhread... I was having fun sharing ocs with my friends at /v/...
>>558872340>tries to be emotional to a faultUNIRONICALLY CALLED IT
>>558872340Shounen electric boogaloo
>>558871286Knuckles being a lesser rival has always been a major part of his character. He was always supposed to be the Aesopian North Wind to Sonic's Sun.I will agree that they do whore out Shadow too much and overemphasize his manufactured rivalry with Sonic at the expense of other characters.
>IDW says Silver doesn't understand wanting to be alone>Sonic Channel shows he has a secret spot where he goes to be alone
>>558871926Randomfox keeps trying to push this narrative that Casefiles is written better than IDW just because it doesn't keep Charmy at home while ignoring all the blatant comic shit utilized and referenced for Tangle and Whisper, the terrible characterization of Cream and Vanilla, the nonsensical forced drama with Espio and Rouge, Rouge being a an ineffective slut and stringing Victoria's lore across three different mediumsIt's shit.
Douge
Hey look a giant talking egg
>>558872626bellebros...
>>558872371Sonic is the only series there is that would try and make a fucking hoverboard seem boring and useless
Sonic still talks like millennial marvel shit too.Chaotix Case Files is shit
>>558872783Cute and canon!
>>558871926Chaotix Casefiles is just more IDW and headcanon shilling.
>>558872732>Tailstube says Sonic can't do his own laundry>Sonic Channel shows him doing his laundry
>>558872878Sonic's just a wisecracking whatever guy. You can't imagine this Sonic existing in pre-Meta Era games because he holds no sincerity, made worse with Roger's usual shitty performance.
>>558872732Well, like peeing, reading is something you usually do alone
>>558873030Doing the laundry is more than just putting the clothes inside the machine
>>558872732>IDW says Silver doesn't understand wanting to be aloneWhen?
>>558872732>>558873030You're getting two different canons. The SoJ vs. SoA shit never ended. In fact, it's worse since communication should be easier than it was in the past, but now it's from complete ignorance from both sides.
>>558870436IDW thinks that young means having no experience or skill. Every "young" character(including Silver and Jet) has been made helpless and/or less capable than characters only a year older than them.
>>558873030>Tailstube shows Rouge deliberately manipulating Sonic>Sonic channel has a story about how Rouge is not capable of manipulating Sonic
>>558873138…ok?he’s only doing the main part of actually taking your laundry to a laundromat and putting it in the washing machine and waiting while it’s in the machine. Probably they’ll have drying machines there too
female writers have this fixation on making teenage boys cute when in real life they are the least cute people alive and are obnoxious little monsters. There are no real boys that actually act like Uwuver. They would find this sort of representation insulting.
A question.Do you guys know of any other IP who suffered the same fate as sonic? (IP owner's disinterest, mismanagement, writing delocalization, main focus on marketing...)I want to understand how it ends.
>>558872732character growth>>558873030when you go to the laundromat, a machine does youe laundry, not you>>558873207Sonic was playing dumb for Tails' tube.
>>558873030>Sonic art from 90s and 2000s show Sonic Anthros use normal human headphone>Sonic Channel shows they use special anthro earphones
So Rouge and Sonic's japanese dynamic is that they have no dynamic since Rouge's entire gimmick doesn't work on him
>>558873254You can't prove Tails isn't washing his clothes for him
>>558873357>delocalizationI don't know if you coined this term just now but I love it.
>>558873286This is also why fans hated 06 at the time.
>>558873357Sonic's problems are unique to Sonic. There is no exact comparison to draw.
>>558873254>>558873496Sonic is colorblind. Tails separate the clothes for him
>>558873443Two characters having specifically no dynamics with each other can also be a dynamic.
>>558873539i meant "moving your writing overseas to outsider groups rather than ST"
>>558873714this scene pisses me off because they are roommates IN THIS FUCKING SHOW How do they canonically have no chemistry while LIVING TOGETHER
>>558873386when you go to the laundromat, a machine does youe laundry, not youthat's how everyone not from a india or any other 3rd world shit hole does their laundry
>>558873714This is Omega and Sonic.
Does anyone have that comparison image of classic sonic and modern sonic where modern is named "samuel?"
>>558873143Whisper's introduction
>>558873582Fans hated 06 at the time because it wasn't Classic Sonic + it was "too Japanese". Especially for the latter when those fans grew up with the lore created by SoA.
>>558873714This is basically how the first act of Sonic Battle plays out
>>558873897That was when Silver was still very Uwu.
>>558873357The Smurfs.All IPs eventually lose relevance and die.
Tails, Knuckles, and Amy all have the same problem as Fred and Shaggy except the games don't try to fix it
>>558870496>>558871308This is a cool port, seems to be based on the Windows Phone version decomp. I'll bookmark and give this a whirl to check out the levels from the OG iOS version. I think the low-poly models fit the game better than the rubbery versions used in the console/PC version.
>>558873626Well i described aty best the problem to chatgpt since i don't know many IPs, and the most likeable parallels seems to be:>spiderman (1990 clone saga era)>halo after bungie (343 industries took over)>x-men mid 90s>transformers (michael bay era)In particular for fanbase fragmentation:>star wars (post-acquisition by disney)
>>558873750Maybe "decentralize" is the word you're looking for?
>>558874043I like how Tails was afraid of dealing with Amy in X and Adventure but that was when she was still boisterous and not a boring karen.
>>558874001I guess the smurfs didn't survive the edgy and progressive era.
>>558873927>Fans hated 06 at the time because it wasn't Classic Sonic + it was "too Japanese"Why do you faggots constantly ignore the fact that the game fucking SUCKED
>>558858307>Cosmo mentioned
>>558874043I feel like there is a strong contingency of Sonic fans that believe these characters aren't and should be friends like that, and that Sonic is like a Kevin Bacon type figure where the extended cast only knows each other within a certain number of degrees from Sonic. lol
Wolf in sheep's clothing.
>>558874354I would love if they were an actual social group and not just individually friends with Sonic
>>558874194 delocalize is an economic term
>>558874397The games don't have times for that, and the characters don't have enough dimensionality to them for that to be interesting.
Is Knuckles only allowed to be on Angel Island because Sonic Team is afraid of the possible legal issues of him doing anything else?
>>558874584No, he's trapped on the island because people whined every time he showed up that he should be guarding the Emerald. So now he never shows up.
>>558874354IDW and Archie both tried to give TKA dynamics with each other but if I say this is a good thing windfags will kill me
Have we ever seen Whisper without her ponytail?
>>558874265Smurf's had their dark/edgy era with the live action movies and their Meta/revival era with Lost Village (which added new things to the currently ongoing comic's canon-like IDW is doing with the games).It even has it's own Paramount movie, lolhttps://youtu.be/pLtFXjBPeKY?si=xPj7CH1q--6aT4zr
>>558874584>Echidna legal issuesDon't worry, Knux. We've got a stronk person to sub for you.
>>558874584what fucking legal issues
>>558874584He was on the Starfall Islands tho
>>558874662Not in her design docs so we probably won't officially, but I'm sure Evan has a drawing of it somewhere.
>>558874397>>558874538Characters generally don't interact outside of "designated" relationships.
>>558874742For the flimsiest fucking reason ever conceived. Dog shit ass storytelling. I fucking hate Frontiers.
>Try to get into a new anime>realize that due to the manga not being finished the show ended up bastardizing the author's original vision and ruining the development of most of the characters is this how purists feel about the comics? i never care about this shit with sonic but it's annoying me now.Akame ga Kill btw
>>558874817This implies Sonic games have an artistic vision or some overarching story and that's just retarded to believe.
>>558874292I played the game recently and found out that it's frankly mediocre at best. It's your average early 7th gen title and pretty much everyone over in the east thinks the same way. Nearly most of 06 baggage is truly indeed due to how Classic fans felt unsatisfied during that time(You can find old forum posts of them shitting on all the 2000s games for not being Classic, even Rush + Advance) and the xenophobia that ran rampant in the 2000s.
>>558874584>>558874742>>558874659*Fix your dogshit lore*
>>558874889You're right. All they ever did was copy DBZ and people acted like this was some incredible journey.
>>558874928>'s your average early 7th gen title and pretty much everyone over in the east thinks the same way.Everyone over in the east is fucking retarded, I'm sick of this historical revisionism.
>>558874817Akame Ga Kill was different from the manga? I thought it was pretty ballsy how they killed off the main character
>>558874991In the manga both the main character and the pink hair girl survive the entire story, eventually start dating and get married and have kids and he gets a dragon form.
Rouge belongs to Shadow. End of Story
>>558874723Pretty much anything you could do for Knuckles lore wise is tied up in Ken Penders nonsense. Even Chronicles isn't canon right now because of him.
>>558874949*chuckles*
>>558874630i'd cum in silver ngl
>>558874674interesting
>>558875119He got the Chad ending.
>Jet now is compared to Chick HicksIt's so over
>>558875119Honestly the anime version sounds better and fits the tone more. Edgy shit with storybook fairy tale endings is cringe. If you are going to be edgy, do it all the way.
Rouge is mine, she's addicted to big canine cocks.
>>558874817The whole premise of IDW was "here's some post-Forces content to expand of the underdeveloped worldbuilding a bit to tide us over and bridge us to the next game" which was completely, utterly and bafflingly ruined with no hope of repair and now it's a 'B-Canon' companion to the games that fails to do anything but canonize some OCs.
>>558874987>Everyone over in the east is fucking retardedInsane saying this after what we saw what people in the west were doing with the Sonic IP in the 2010s.
>>558875148That's not true. The reason Kuckles gets no focus is because the guy who created him never intended for him to be anything except Sonic's friend. He doesn't have the same autism that Shadow or Silver have.
>>558875304He gaped that lemur
>>558875258I understand that but I disagree. From the moment he's introduced it's pretty clear that he isn't supposed to fit the tone of the world he's in. The way the entire world shifts as soon as he starts talking as if the genre changes to suit his silliness and brashness. There's an idea here that that the cynical and violent world is still survivable if you're an optimistic wide eyed generic hero, but it still hurts like hell and you have to adapt. I think that idea is squandered if he and his love interest just die. He still goes through hell in the manga.
>>558874935>We did well for a couple of goofballs
>>558874928The internet hate machine was something else back then. There was no context, no talking to creators on social media, no sunk cost fallacy consumers, it was just cool to hate back then.
>>558875304I think the Japs were expecting something a little more windy
>>558874817>>realize that due to the manga not being finished the show ended up bastardizing the author's original vision and ruining the development of most of the charactersI legitimately can't think of a single time where this is true. Usually anime adaptations TRIES to fix the shitty aspects of the manga and does something much more memorable. Notably shown with Full Metal Alchemist 2003 and the non-Kai version of Dragon Ball Z.
>>558875429Japs don't care about Sonic.
>>558874660IDW is still trying by how autistically they've been shackling Tails and Amy together recently. It's never worked because they write Amy so boringly, she and Tails don't talk about anything except what they're currently doing (which is always just Restoration secretary bullshit). Probably because Evan is such a boring bitch and both Evan and Ian are afraid of twitter. She should be swinging between making Tails blush with her girly wiles and scaring him into compliance with her hammer, but she does neither.Knuckles and Amy's issue was ok. Not good but ok. It was mostly just Knuckles talking exposition, and Amy just hovering around him. Felt like she was only there for Evan to show off "seee?? Amy hecking took the totem back so that means they're friends!" Same critique applies.Archie didn't try to give them dynamics at all, in Ian-era. I can count on two hands the number of times they even had a scene together and they're mostly from Gallagher and Bollers. For example in that short sidestory when Amy was forced to go to school with Tails because the other FF treat them both as babies, then they both tease eachother until they get thrown in detention. That was about the last Tails/Amy dynamic there ever was. Amy didn't even care about Tails when Fiona made him suicidal, she was obsessed with comforting Sonic of all people instead and ignored Tails running off to probably go kill himself. And I can't speak for Amy/Knuckles because I can't remember even 1 Ian story where they interacted. Before Ian there was a small scene of the two fighting the robot army in the return from space arc, that's it.In most Ian stories in Archie even when they're mandated to adapt the games Knuckles and Sonic just talk to eachother while Tails stands around in the background not speaking to Knux.Anyway my conclusion is that IDW and Archie failed to give TKA dynamics too, which clearly means the problem lies in the creators (Ian and Evan and Sonic Team)
>>558875304
>>558875465Akira the Manga is WAY better than Akira the movie.
>>558875325This. The Western meddling got kicked up a notch with Pongraff, which is why the writing quality from game to game got inconsistent. This is to the extent that SoJ steadfastly insists that lazy-bum Orbot is an entirely different character from sassy-snarker SA-55. Then when Pongraff left, the power vacuum was ripe for the Archie leftovers swooping in as the "lore team" (weaselwording doublespeak). This is all Colors' fault for reviewing well despite being a bland Sonic game because journos at the time wanted neutered Unleashed daytime stages on Wii.
>>558875465A silent Voice is mogged by its manga, The movie fails to flesh out everyone except the two leads.Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer has a terrible anime adaptation but that's more the low quality than the script. Tokyo Ghoul's anime pisses me off and I don't want to talk about it. Twin Star Exorcists just becomes 30 episodes of fanfiction and not in a silly way like Naruto.
>>558875801Maybe its Sonic Team's fault for making shitty gamesever thought of that
>>558875557This is how it felt learning that Master Roshi groping No. 18 never happened in the manga and the anime just added that for filler. And that weird dragon Gohan has for the early arcs of Z. That's basically IDW.
>>558875585The manga came after the movie though.
>>558875557Doesn't this better describe Archie since it actually has arcs based on the games that directly use Sonic's personality from the games?
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
>>558875465there's legit so many examples of that being true.Stuff like Steel Angel Kurumi basically made an entirely different series because they said "your character is cute, but we don't like the story you wrote. We're just gonna make her do our own thing that you never wrote. What you gonna do 'bout it?"Mahoromatic is a pretty famous example where the author wrote a sweet lovey dovey ending, then Gainax said "NAAAAH lovey dovey doesn't sell bangbux!" and fucking murdered the main character in a gutter instead because they wanted to be edgyasfuck
>>558876085Are you dense
black doom is anti-wind
>>558875990Awful comparison when Roshi was always known to be a literal pervert and the dragon pet adds more to Gohan's character.
Are you fucking kidding me? After years of the hedgehogs being OOC, JET being written OOC is what causes people to stop defending IDW? JET?? This isn't even OOC for Jet, just Sonic and Shadow.
>>558875465Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 was actually really, really good -- UNTIL Barry showed up and the changes went from subtle touchups that improve the themes and pacing to a total hijacking and butchering of the authorial intent. I used to have a viewers guide but lost it, I think for the best watching experience you can see 2003 up tp a certain episode then just jump off and resume the rest in 2009. OR you can read the manga and avoid that bs altogether...
>>558876101Archie Sonic is a mutated 90's American Sonic warped by being in a decades long soap opera character wise. Archie itself is like a weird early adaptation that does its own thing like Fullmetal Alchemist 2003.
>>558876234Roshi being a pervert is funny. Him fondling 18 while she's with her daughter feels like something that belongs in a Yamamoto Doujin.
>>558876238I'm retarded and out of the loop, what happened with jeet
>>558876234For real, the filler arc where Gohan escapes the wilderness to go back home only to voluntarily return to finish his training makes Gohan a much stronger character than his manga counterpart. DBZ filler made the story better most of the time.
I think i start to understand where this is going.>sega tries to heal the inconsistencies of the series in a single canon>this also should help marketing alternative medias like IDW>problem is sega can't into consistency in that canon too, every arc acts like an AU with a different sonic for each>this leads to canon instability>this translates into long-term trust erosionFans trying their best to define sonic themes, characters and relationships in a very aggressive way is a red flag.For an audience of autists who love predictability, this is exhausting. So unless a strong creative direction rises from the ashes to stick with a vision, you're in for a late stage franchise and increasing canon fatigue (people slowly stop engaging because "it doesn't matter, it's just a corporate cartoon mascot").
>>558876238Jet was written OOC how?
>>558876269Sex with these goobers
>>558876238It's not just Jet, I think a lot of people are starting to crack now because they can't just plug their ears and dismiss IDW isn't canon. They're not able to dismiss bad characterization as comic slop that doesn't matter anymore, it's leaking into the main canon. The back to back chain of uwuver, gag character Jet and wave being too mature for the boysIt adds up and gets to a pointSlashy tried to warn you all but you were all too busy focusing on saying idw isn't canon and saying it will never matter while ignoring the bigger picture
Amy's huge futa cock.
>>558876397Whoever still gave a fuck about this series after Colors deserves what they are getting.
>>558876371He wasn't. It's a gag panel of him getting annoyed at Sonic ignoring his challenge in favor of Shadow. This is a reaction Jet would have IF Sonic acted like that.
I miss when Shadow could shoot the president
>>558876350DBZ and One Piece filler are both really good. Naruto filler is bottom of the barrel.
>>558876482Jet being treated like this to begin with is out of character and idw's been on its train for a while of treating Jet like he's sonic's ex and using fandom headcanons to fuel this characterization
Shadow being there at all is out of character
>>558876479Shadow...
>>558876573Jet was always a joke character, I don't see the issue you faggots are having
>>558876269>>558875465I like 2003 more than Brotherhood.
>>558876482it's not jet's reaction that is talked like thatwe're talking about the fact they made jet a cuck and they did that to fuel sonadowfags
>>558876482We're still nitpicking that? Jesus, that fanbase is its own worst enemy.>>558876573No it isn't. Jet has always been like this.
I miss when there were other implied directors of the military.
>>558876669>>558876705>it was always like thisYou faggots don't play the games and it shows every time you say shit like this. Your gaslighting won't work
And that, boys and girls, is the story of how every Jetfag became a windfag overnight
>>558876783>the legendary windmaster fag became a windfagthink before you write anything
What's this about Jet, nani?
>>558874928The way the characters handle is awful for a sonic game, compare it to the previous ones and even the ones now it feels really really bad to play as sonic, gotta stay still to do a fucking spindash in a 3d sonic game what a laughIf the movement was actually solid the game would be much more enjoyable even with the bugs
>>558875258Couldn't disagree more. Even the anime introduces quickly the idea of him eventually growing into the role early on. His final transformation into a dragon (Which is written as a bad thing) was the optimistic but dark ending for that boy. He did get true love and he did get to be a hero but at the cost of his own fate. That is so much better than a shock value death.
>>558876779No, YOU don't play the games. Jet is a fucking clown. Always has been. He is not meant to be taken seriously.
Something about how IDW doesn't seem to respect the characters is hard to put into words. Because the story shouldn't just suck every characters cock all the time, but IDW doesn't even feel like it wants you to like these characters genuinely. You are supposed to think Jet is a funny loser and that Silver is a cute awkward clumsy boi. You are supposed to laugh at Sonic's ego and Shadow's arrogance. There is never a payoff that makes you like these characters.
>>558876937>the main rider's rival is not meant to be taken seriously
I'm not going to sit here and let Jetfaggots play their shitty violin when IDW has been raping Silver's character for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. Fuck you. I was there when all of you defended it with an out of context 06 screenshot of Blaze saying he's insecure. I fucking hate you all. FUCK YOU.
>>558877167NIGGER WERE IN THE SAME BOAT NOW FIGHT IDW AND THIS BULLSHIT NOT US
>>558877167No one cares about Silver.
>>558876882jetfags are mad for Sonic being ic and the wind.
borger
>>558877167No need to be so angry, Silvbro
>>558876479
I HATE IDW FANS I HATE IDW FANS I HATE IDW FANS I HATE THEM
>>558876573>>558877048This is why you don't let Tumblr users and fujos write for you.
That Jet? That nigga has been on my mind, No cap.
>>558877282in Riders, Sonic is the one desperate to compete with Jet after Jet clowned on him and left him in the dust.
GAY NIGGA RAPE CHAMBER: 80% FINISHED
>>558877513see, this is why female rivals are necessaryi don't want sonic to be gay
>>558877613then Riders is ooc and this is ic, Jetfag.
>>558877613And by the end of the game?
Complain to Sega herehttps://faq.sega.jp/hc/ja/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000782393
>>558877457Before social media these usurpers would be brownbeaten into serving fries for tge rest of their existence. Now it's,>um sweaty look we fooled the uneducated retards it's over gg you need me for engagement keep me hired and make me yas queenTHE ENEMY WAD NEVER AI, IT WAS SOCIAL MEDIA. THE CESSPIT THAT ELEVATES THE WRONG VOICES.
FIRE EVERYONE FROM IDW AND HIRE SPARKY
>>558877764I don't give nearly enough of a fuck about this bro
>>558877764Last time one anon posted that link to send complaints about IDW, he got banned.
>>558877728Sonic treats Jet as an equal and competent rival to spar with in races
>maybe you are right that they're writing characters OOC, but you were not even that mean about it and that's worse
>>558877880no
I'm really starting to see just how unproductive some of you are when you talk about the characters. Every fucking day you guys give more and more ammunition to the sentiment that some adults need to grow out of their childhood hobbies.
>>558877949>Whispangle avatarall idw did was create a new faction of the fandom that wants all the characters to be silly, socially awkward, and sad.
>>558877641You don't like two cute gay niggas kissing?
Tails!!!!
>>558878079No.
>>558877728Still is desperate to compete. Only now he says shitty quotes while doing it"Even without wings, I can still fly"
There needs to be a conversation of how these tumblrites want to frame every guy as an incompetent misunderstood uwu smol bean because they feel personally attacked by competent male characters.
>>558877457>Silver in this game written by Ian Flynn is like Silver in this Comic written by Ian Flynn WOW big brain moment!
>>558878040i've only been an adult for a year is there still hope left
>>558877949This person thinks Silver is boring unless he acts like Uwuver.
>>558878354What even is that pride flag?
Are you guys just going to post Twitter screenshots the whole day
>Jetfags learn that mischaracterization is bad
>>558878473HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?
>>558878482These aren't Jetfags, they're IDW detractors manufacturing another reason to talk bad about the staff over a JOKE.
>>558877457IDW Silver is a skinwalker born from Evan's fanfiction and Ian's impression of the dub voice.
Feels good knowing that SONIC TEAM has been mischaracterizing everyone since Colors and I don't feel the need to defend trash
>>558878736sonic team ceased to exist in 2006nothing after that game is canon
<3
>>558878814*2008The series was unironically supposed to end with unleashed. 06 is a dogshit note to end on.
if you think this is bad just wait until iizuka is put in charge of surge, tangle, or whisper
tails hours?
>>558878814Sonic Team ceased to exist after 2005.Nothing after Sonic Rush is canon.You can't spell Yuji Naka without "i" as in "i am the team, me".
>>558878994just wait until iizuko is put in charge of tokyo central railway station
I love this art
>>558879054why would you put iizuka in charge of the toyko central railway station he would make everyone grind on it
>>558879117fuuuuuuck
>>558878917>The series was unironically supposed to end with unleashed.Is this the new "Sonic was supposed to die with Adventure 2"?
More like 1998
sonic was supposed to end with sonic 1 you damned buffoons
>>558879040I actually remember when Yuji Naka was seen as this important figure to Sonic and now he's just a joke
>>558879327damn near everyone working on sonic is a joke
Kawaii
>>558878917*2009Sonic and the Black Knight's entire ending was about Maekawa coming to terms with the fact that the winds are changing and his chapter with the franchise - his vision - is coming to a close.
you're a fucking idiot if you want sticks back under these conditions
R E T V R N
>>558879327And yet, Sonic 2006 is a bigger joke than Baland, so who REALLY lost? CheckMATE, autist!
Cute...
>>558879607balan wonder bread is the best bread ever produced
>>558879171Yeah y'see because it was Sonic Adventure 3 and Sonic was going to take a console generation break had it released on Dreamcast just like the Genesis trilogy and Saturn, it would've been the end of "Modern" Sonic.
feels like this general was fine with idw at first and at some point the amount of hate rapidly escalated
>>558879607Balan was worse. Oh god, it was worse.
>>558879865were you in the general during the early days of IDW?
>>558879865It's just butthurt jpfags having melties over idw being canon.
>>558879920i was there at the end of the metal virus and everyone seemed cool with it
>>558879865I think it just has to do with how mainstream it is now. 4chan fosters contrarianism.
>>558880031Damn, shit changes i guess
Okay, I've seen this sentiment multiple times now. Who is writing the CrossWorlds comic?> *looks up*> Iasmin Omar Ata> non-binaryAh Fuck
>>558879917That's what happens when a project gets sabotaged, and then you get kicked from it before it even finishes.
>>558880140Yes sthg is going to be very normal about this
>>558880140Jet is Sonic's ex boyfriend
>>558879865It had a strong start as a companion piece to Forces, the first arc was good until around the point Neo Metal started singing song lyrics and the action reminded me of Worlds Collide where everyone is warring against the big bad villain but it feels like the stakes are fake. Then we all saw they were just reviving Archie ideas that were going to be in the reboot (Metal Virus) and by "cowards run, I win" it was over. The Japanese publisher seems to think so too since that's around the moment their interest in the gaijin project wanned considerably.
At lest the Movies aren't canon...
I don't care about this new stuff, my confusion is why is Wave not evil in IDW? She is an evil douchebag in every single game she's in. She seems like normally just a shallow bitch.
>>558880435Girls aren't evil anon, just misguided.
>>558880435>why is Wave not evilI hate all of you.
>>558866863Why do it subliminally? Tumblr types like Evan and Gigi worship therapy like it's the magical solution to all of life's problems.
>>558880409I'd rather have the movies be canon before IDW or Archie.
>>558880140>Saar writing sonicIts so over dear god
I like Tangle and Whisper when they're not together and the idea of them living together in Spiral Hill just drives me up a goddamn wall
>>558879865IDW at first was Sonic running between villages meeting a new shitty friend at each place and repeating the same formula (we mocked this too)then Metal Overlord appeared again and we thought that was cool cause hey it's a big fight with a big robotthen Metal Virus happened and you better BELIEVE we mocked that (The Zeti again, Shadow not running, Tails cowering again, everyone crying and being dramatic especially Whisper) but still overall just a very long boring drawn out fight sequence with occasional highlightsSince then IDW has turned into the Lesbian Breakfast Club with everybody's favourite characters THE DIAMONDCUTTERS! crying in a circle about their feelings every issue, Silver & Blaze soifacing at The Restoration secretary offices, Belle crying every single issue about muhh teeenkiiirrrr, the absolute travesty of Surge and Kit's incoherent characters, people crying because someone peed in their potted flower, and gay nonbinary tranny self-inserts of the writing team so they can post about it on twitter how trannies are le canon if they're in IDW.No shit we hate it more now than then.
^-^
>>558875341The reason knuckles gets no focus is because he's a holdover from classic sonic that should have been vaulted after SA1, if not during the transition to modern. He shouldn't still be a character.
>>558879865it's almost like idw had a good start then deranged into therapy sessions the comic
>>558880578Why is Wave not a fun character that bullies Tails
>>558880031IDW is the vehicle for Archie failures to springboard themselves into writing for the games, Ian Flynn was fucky to begin with but Even Stanley is an even worse writer.The oneshots tend to be good at least.
>>558880737People forget now but there was a point when people here would suck Ian's cock. No, really.
>>558880664she's palestinian not indian
>>558880435Wave's "evil" around Team Sonic cause she's there to bully Tails and try to make Jet cheat (possibly out to sabotage Tails' board too)in IDW she's only allowed to interact with Rouge and the wholesome heckin diamondcutters. She's spoken to Tails for 1 (One) panel before he got knocked out the race to go walking around the Floating Restoration base with Amy and Belle (so the Diamondcutters could hog all the Extreme Gear storyline)
KICK
>>558880821They still do at places like Sonic Wiki Zone, legend has it if you swallow his cum you BECOME him..
>>558880764It's more important that Wave have gurlboss moments with Rouge and the Lesbian Diamondcutters than Tails you fucking chud
>>558880682>Since then IDW has turned into the Lesbian Breakfast Club with everybody's favourite characters THE DIAMONDCUTTERS! crying in a circle about their feelings every issue, Silver & Blaze soifacing at The Restoration secretary offices, Belle crying every single issue about muhh teeenkiiirrrr, the absolute travesty of Surge and Kit's incoherent characters, people crying because someone peed in their potted flower, and gay nonbinary tranny self-inserts of the writing team so they can post about it on twitter how trannies are le canon if they're in IDW.I think you just covered nearly every issue I have with the comics, sans Sonic being self-righteous and Eggman being overly sadistic
Over time I've came to appreciate Classic Sonic way more. I still like some things from Modern but Classic is just more consistent
>>558880764Because she can do more than just bully Tails.
the diamond cutters should have stopped appearing after issue 20. the fact that we're still focusing on them makes it feel like sonic spends all day around them and that this is some sort of family group in a small town.
>>558880924>Eggman being overly sadisticThat's just Archie's Robotnik.
>>558880830>inb4 lal what's the difference
>>558880979but bullying Tails is the fun part. She doesn't do anything fun now she's just "the voice of reason" while Rouge and the Lesbians sass them
>>558881036The real mistake was setting it after forces. It should have been set after SA2.
>>558880830>palestinian>in a jew's companyOh, the irony.
>>558880979Yeah like fucking Tails
You think gamer faggots would have a canon of masterpieces like literature and movies at this point instead of making videos about the "classics" being good or bad for the 1000th time.
you have to remember idw came out before the fandom decided that the early 2000s was the best era ever
>>558881095there issemites and indians yeah, there is a massive differenceread a fycking book
>>558880830Oh that explains even more
>>558881237Videogames aren't a respectable art form so whatever
>>558874292He is right, the main reason it was hated was because it didn't appeal to their nostalgia. The bugs and lack of polish were an excuse to be loud and convince other people to join in on the hate, something they had been waiting for since 1998.
>>558881036The Diamond Cutters first appeared in issue 58, unless the joke is that the individual characters making up that team should have never appeared, then I can kind of get that sentiment considering how they went out.
>>558881267I know there's a difference, I said "inb4 lal what's the difference" because some people think like thatguess i should've typed ">inb4 someone says (...)"
>>558880687Stop trying to make me like evil kemoshotas
>>558881135But the first major arc of IDW is basically Sonic Heroes Once Again. Likewise, do you think current ST would let any Sonic media not have Shadow?
That Growing City arcDuo being a dick to Silver arcClean Sweepstakes arcSOL Aftermath of Clean Sweepstakes arcwhat kind of dirt does ABT have on Ian and Evan to have made the last 4 arcs all about his shitty Lesbian Sheep as the main character?Not even counting all the arcs before Lanolin where every issue was Belle or Tangle and Whisper and Jewel
Sonic made look Japan bad
>>558881335Yes everyone was mean to the poor modernfags and deliberately campaigned to slander Sonic 06 which is the most maligned piece of media everThe victimhood you guys have is bizarre
>>558881063Same difference. Ian said in a very recent interview about how Eggman is his favorite character to write because he loves making him as evil as possible
>>558880670Tangle already has Jewel as her best friend. Why does she need Whisper?
Sonic Movie 3 is better than every single issue of IDW and it's COMPLETELY ooc.
>>558881457What about good ones?
>>558881538Duo was a dick to Silver for 1 chapter. Stop calling this random chapters "arcs"
>>558878597>they're IDW detractors manufacturing another reason to talk bad about the staff over a JOKE.Hi Evan.
>>558881556>what if sonic met teh joker
Bless anon.
Let the fleetway writers in
>>558881617FUCKING THANK YOUJewel's not even my favorite character and feel bad that she's sidelined so muchThe fucking bitch sheep gets more precedence over her
>>558881237Isn't that the various GOTYs. Besides, I think games as a artform is still too young, the canon of literary, film and other arts span at least 100 years before serious consideration and documentation was attempted.
>>558881671Movie 3 accepts the fact the characters are fundamentally different to their game counterparts and do their own thing while still keeping the traits that make them iconic. IDW's characterizations are fundamentally different from the games but shamelessly try to gaslight you into believing these how the characters actually act.
>>558880623>Tumblr types like Evan and Gigi worship therapy like it's the magical solution to all of life's problems.That's most women, bro. Big reason why children need male figures in their life.>>558878040And that doesn't apply to you because...?
>>558881556I kinda knew it, he wants to write Archie's Robotnik instead of the game's Eggman, since it's easier for him, and the fact that he doesn't like the games. That's why he wants to vault Sage with Evan, since he believes that with Sage, he won't be able to make Eggman evil.
>>558881538The IDW team was just excited to show off a new character they thought the audience liked due to her frequent background appearances. Next to Belle, I think Lanolin had the worst introduction of all IDW characters.
>American fans think Silver is descended from Shadow>Japanese fans think Silver is descended from Sonic and AmyHuh
>>558881551No, it's fair to dislike the game. It doesn't change the fact that classicfags had been eagerly waiting for a major fail on Sonic Team's part for years, and when it happened they went all in. The "deliberate campaigning" was for the Japanese side of the series at the time, that game is jut how a certain group of fans got to push their narratives on the rest of the fanbase and the people working on the series.
>>558881834Jet whining about Sonic not paying him attention is just as OOC as Movie Tails cowering against a GUN guard because he can't fight.Hate how you manchildren ate that shit up, you'd just have Sonic quipping about Harry Potter and the Beatles like a retarded AI drone instead. "London?? David Bowie?? Keanu Reeves??? OLIVE GARDEN??? OH YEEAAHH!!!!"
I really love this Manik
>>558882001I wanna dress like this. With ripped jeans.
>>558881981Sonic was already in a precarious spot before 06. Heroes, Shadow and Riders were all seen as mediocre at best. 06 was just the last drop
Leaked IDW sketch from one of the Silver and Blaze stories written by Evan Stanley and Gigi Dutreix
>>558882140what's stopping you
>>558881476You can still have shadow, but having it solidly in that post-SA2 world would do wonders, especially with any GUN plotlines to work with. An established human faction that's morally grey and can work as either allies or antagonists depending on the story? Sounds great
>>558882140based
>>558881982>Tailsfag seething because he wasn't portrayed as some kind of unstoppable chad self-insertI almost took you seriously
>>558881982Lmaoyeah Movie Sonic's whole character and mode of speech is "LE NAME OF CELEBRITY AND THING YOU RECOGNISE??? WHOAH YEAAAH!!* *soiface*https://x.com/LyleRath/status/692483069064933378
remember who IDW is for
>>558881926>That's why he wants to vault Sage with Evan, since he believes that with Sage, he won't be able to make Eggman evil.In fairness, haven't there been /stg/ anons saying the same thing?
The most interesting part of this fall out is seeing how much the chinese fans opinions reflect the same things you guys are talking about except the chinese are without all the tumblr fujos defense squad trying to gaslight them into believing "it was always like this"
Snoooooooze
>>558881980Silver just being some random guy from the future with no real connection to the present day cast perplexes both western and eastern fanbases.
Anime and manga is dying
>>558878548https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK-8oP5mfPsThey actually call out the comics for being different from the games.
>>558882471>In fairness, haven't there been /stg/ anons saying the same thing?No, we want Belle to be vaultedInto a furnace
IDW is smart to pander to the tumblr crowd because at this point there is no way they will make game purists happy
>>558882551Anime and Manga just recently made blockbuster levels of money and outsold Hollywood's Superman. That has never happened before and never been even possible before. Anime and Manga are more alive than ever and producing more series per year than ever before (this isn't entirely a good thing, that's why each series only has 12 episodes now instead of 120)
>>558882471I will never be convinced Sage was a worthwhile addition to the cast.
>>558882158>Heroes, Shadow and Riders were all seen as mediocre at best.Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. But the question you should be asking yourself is, "by whom?"Getting another game in a similar style that is much more disappointing in other areas (polish, bugs, performance) regardless of the demographic is obviously helpful to sway the general opinion. Nonetheless there are now many people who see Heroes, Shadow, Riders, Unleashed and other at the time badly received games as their favorites, whether they played them as kids or more recently, and their opinion isn't any less relevant just because they weren't old enough or perhaps even born yet to talk about it on the mid 2000s Internet. The reception those games had online at the time needs to be considered in its historical context and is valid for the people who expressed it then. It's not universal and you can't assume the reasons they were expressed back then would still apply to this day. I know my own criticism has changed a lot over the years, too.
>>558882471As someone who was worried about Sage dragging Eggman's villainy down, I was worried that they wouldn't be able to bring themselves to write her as "actually evil". Crossworlds dialogue and (ironically enough) Evan's own writing in #84 won me over.
>>558882424next time eat a salad
>>558882182Post-SA2 Shadow is MIA until Heroes. Besides, IDW already does take place in a world after SA2. lolAlso, isn't it interesting that these flashbacks start with SA1?
>>558882654>IDW is smart to pander to the tumblr crowdIt only ends in chaosJust ask Gooseworx>there is no way they will make game purists happyStart by making a good Sonic game
>>558882767>Sonic fought the Egg Emperor by himselfFUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>558882563heh, nice
>>558882862He admittedly did solo Egg Emperor in 3DS Generations.
>>558882784isn't zooble her self insert? she is the tumblr crowd
>>558882735> Writing Sage as a cheeky deadpan brat that's loyal to Eggman's ambitions is really the best direction to take her character, rather than an angel on Eggman's shoulder like they tried to make Belle
>>558882424>There is a terminally online stinky amorphous blob sitting all day in a sweaty gaming chair acting like a wholesome uwu quirk gay furry chungus behind their monitor on sonic xitter.
These characters used to be treated with lovable sincerity be treated as cool in universe and now they're stuck in a perpetual state of post irony "they're supposed to be losers" appeal and I hate it
>>558882731They were seen as bad by general audiences and critics and yes, older fans. What's necessarily wrong with older fans from the 90s disliking those games? And you're not gonna see people from outside the Sonic fanbase defending themI have no problem with people who like them but I wish people would be more critical of the things they grew up with
>>558882767>>558882928So...Generations 3DS AND console are canon? Because Egg Dragoon is also there without Werehog...
>>558880894If Scrib wasn't prone to crack joke pairings I wouldn't mind if he just took over
>>558883001Generations is a timey-wimey game, all versions are canon at once somehow someway.
Mania was OOC garbage
>>558882939Lefties always eat their own as the purity spirals inwardOne day it will happen to Evan and the rest of the IDW staff
>>558883086I don't think he'd do those sort of pairings if he took over, seems like a dude who actually gives a shit about the series enough to not do stupid bullshit
>>558882990They were by Japan.Japan can do no wrong.
>>558882957Sorry, that wasn't meant to be greentext>>558882961>post irony "they're supposed to be losers" appealWell, look at who's writing them
It was a good day
>>558883497but its 3pm
>>558883546british bastard
>>558883546Yeah because I live in TokelauIt was a stupid reference to a song :P
>>558882862Starline fought the Egg Emperor by himself.Starline was a good villain. Pity the comic hasn't made a good replacement yet.
>>558883653Is it true you get games first?
>>558883724He will before issue 100 by Scrapnik Heavy Amalgamate.
>>558863823I like them drawn with Megaman armsand I also noticed, Amy's legs are twice the thickness of her arms.
>>558884029>Amy's legs are twice the thickness of her arms.Nothing wrong with that
>>558883769Yeah alongside the monetary aid, New Zealand also sends us the newest Sonic game releases
>>558882990>What's necessarily wrong with older fans from the 90s disliking those games?Nothing.>And you're not gonna see people from outside the Sonic fanbase defending themThis is normal, games rarely get massive attention several years after release by non fans, especially attention from new adults for old games meant for children. You don't see the average normie who wasn't introduced to Sonic as a kid bring up any Sonic game in the way fans would. If you're reading this and thinking that it doesn't apply to Sonic 1 and Sonic 2, that is because those games sold several million more copies due to being bundled with the Mega Drive/Genesis, they have their own, much bigger, nostalgia fan base, and although not nearly as significant as that, they are also easier to rerelease compared to something like a RenderWare game. There's a reason Sonic 3&K is much more popular among Sonic fans while it's mostly ignored by the general public.>I wish people would be more critical of the things they grew up withI see criticism all the time coming from Sonic fans. From my experience the ones that are most commonly averse to criticism are fans of 3&K, SA2, Generations, and Mania. It seems those games are held in high regard by the fanbase, so their fans are afraid of criticism.
>>558884098Ian can only write girls one way, please forgive him, he was raised on gamer comics.He thinks girls are those creatures that stand in the background and roll their eyes at everything and are constantly worried about everyone else.
Soon... all female characters will be Sally... EVEN CREAM! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>558884163Welp I know where I'm moving.
>>558877363From losers to lovers
>>558884226Worse, this was written by a non-binary Palestinian woman
>>558884154It was a positive feature,
>>558883724I mean yeah but he’s explicitly doing it by using Sonic, Tails, Knuckles powers to do the STK move
>>558884197I'm not talking about popularity. I'm talking about general perception. If you bring up Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Shadow 05 in a conversation with a normies you'll get two different reactions Sonic fans are tribalistic, they criticize the things they didn't grow up with or aren't biased towards
>>558884313So they got someone who writes exactly like Ian so when people say, "yep this sucks, like Ian always does" they can point out, erm, it's actually not Ian.Dastardly.
>>558884197There are the best games of the series, yes.
>>558880973>consistentCodeword for unoriginal and repetitive. If they keep making games like Mania and Superstars more and more people will start to see the classics as mass produced slop. Classicfags were even seething at the Mania developer after he dared to point it out the other day
>>558884479No Classic is more consistent in good ways like overall quality. I'd rather have something unoriginal and very good than something gimmicky and trend chasing and very bad
>>558882471>haven't there been /stg/ anons saying the same thing?No, I want Belle vaulted.
Sheep tits!
>>558884450If you bring up those games in a conversation with normies who aren't familiar with the Sonic series (aka most normies) you'll get confused or uninterested reactions in both cases. Otherwise the reaction depends on their opinion on the series and their experience with it.>they criticize the things they didn't grow up withI see the other games get criticism all the time, including by fans who grew up with them.
>>558884670Yeah, if you copy paste the same thing 100 times you're going to have the same quality 100 times because you didn't do anything new
>>558884354True, I feel like this is the comic acknowledging that Sonic didn't actually fight the E.Emperor alone. It was just a visual shorthand to show Sonic's personal history with Eggman while also foreshadowing the next storyline which was going to involve Neo Metal. To put another way, if you take>>558882767 at face value you also have to take Amy's flashback in SA1 as confirmation that Classic and Modern are different dimensions. lol
>>558884831hhhhHHIIIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>558884901The general perception, even amongst the most uninterested in Sonic normies ever, is that "Sonic was good then he went 3D then he got bad". Of course that's overexaggerating but still
>>558885038Why is whibser punching the sheep
It's simple if japs made it then it's good
>>558885125
>>558885130>Forces>06>Shadow the Hedgehog>>Sonic Shuffle
Maybe we were too quick to sperg out on Tangle and Whisper's TailsTube
>>558885168It was justified.
>>558885225Exhibit HI'm seeing more normies speak out
>>558885239>posts shit drawing AGAIN
>>558885168Amazing.
>>558885225I actually like the pre-race banter in Crossworlds, its a small but still effective method of characterization, and is especially beneficial to characters we don't see much ofBut I don't like how tame/boring Amy is
>>558885042Yeah, people going off of things they've heard from the bigger parts of the fanbase, they're not going to know what "Sonic 3 & Knuckles" is if they aren't interested in the series in some way, non fans uninterested normies don't care about Sonic games, they'll just say whatever to go with the flow and keep the conversation going (or cut it short if you're being too passionate). They're not real opinions, it's just parroting something they don't understand, if they're even familiar with that much.
>>558885358Maybe there's hope after all
>>558885392Posts kino again*
>>558885358i know that tweetthis is no normie, krack follows that acc
This is your reminder that Lanolin fucking HATES everybody at the Restoration. Duo was the only person she actually liked.
>>558885667Why doesn't she leave? Is she stupid?
>>558885358Is there anyone working on Idw Sonic who isn't trying to shove their favorite ship down the reader throat
>>558885740>>558885740>>558885740
>>558885038NOOOOOOOOOO
>>558885038https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoR7_IYTdAk
>>558882990>I have no problem with people who like them but I wish people would be more critical of the things they grew up withA while ago I criticized the badly designed scoring system of the classic games and explained how Sonic Adventure 2 improved on it, and I wished modern releases of the classics would learn from it and implement a well designed ranking system. Classicfags didn't take it well and insisted the classics are flawless.
