First for that fucking ass bolt gun that shoots one shot at a time

>>558935261
The Marathon comeback needs to be studied.

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>>558935261
you vill sacrifice your kind
you vill use ze knife

>>558935663
>Gives shotty and lmgs
Sure senpai

Give it to me straight.
How fucked am i as a 34yo that hasnt played FPS seriously since UT2K4 if i want to go hard-ish on this game?

>>558936023
There is no shooting twitch skill needed in the game.
You can’t push people in this game. You outflank them and get the drop on them by being situationally aware.

As soon as you start fighting NPCs, you expose yourself.

>>558935236
I would assume infinity technically wrote them into a corner, it's too confusing for 99% of people, "picking a timeline" just seems unfun (i.e "who cares about timeline 4, it was 1 mission") but they can't exactly ignore infinity either

>>558935275
that must mean that either marathon 2 didn't take place, or the w'rkncacnter was never released during marathon 2 due to the sun being blown up

Game is ok, it feels like it's going to be a cool secondary game. Anyone playing this as their main game as it is rn has some serious issues.

Why is there no sloptuber talking about how good this game is

>>558936023
Take the volt thrower and shotgun and you'll be fine
Most of the game is getting the drop on the other dude first

I don’t mind the game, but genuinely Bungie and Sony are insane for thinking that a high stakes, horror-esque PvP focused extraction shooter was going to be some sort of studio/live service defining game per player counts.

Thread Theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4PShDbJPx0

The music is very buglike in this game

>>558935261
>you can get a thermal, spam smokes and kill everyone thru smoke
lol

>>558936760
It's baffling anyone considered this to be of equal to or greater potential than Destiny. I like what Marathon is, but it's just not a fucking million CCU game.

>>558935236
Jason Jones still works at Bungie, the only other writer they're missing is Greg Kirkpatrick. There's one of three options, either they went with the end of Marathon 2, since Infinity is technically from Greg and Double Aught and not Bungie, they went with one of the timelines in Infinity, or the W'rkncacntr is fucking with reality (hence the anomalies). Either way, when you're dealing with hopping timelines and eldritch time altering space horrors the fun part is that you can kind of do whatever you want.

>>558936949
I like this a lot more than Destiny
I always hated the premise and artstyle of Destiny

>>558936727
What are some good weapon mods for the Volt Thrower? I ducking love the gun but feel like I do no damage

>>558937054
God I'd love the PvE MMO of Destiny but style, look, and story of Marathon

Is Destiny any good?

>>558937087
Whatever gives you more ammo desu
It has needler like auto aim so you don't have to worry that much

Close your eyes for a second mr Bungie shill...

Imagine... A Hub, or Hub-Like space

...but on Marathon.

Think about that, it would make the UI waaaay more readable.
Every streamer that I watch try the game, they liked many things and hated others right? but EVERY single one complained abut the UI and menus.

You can fix that with a Hub. You are at time, think about the big picture

>>558937054
Same, but compare the mass appeal - PvE (with PvP sprinkled in for those who want it), raiding, Diablo flavored looting and progression. It's something that your average dad can dedicate his after work hours to without getting mad. Meanwhile Marathon is mandatory stress, you can actively lose power by just getting turbo fucked by other players and end a night further back than you started.

>>558937231
I think that's gonna be inevitable since every extraction/modern co-op shooter has a hub

>>558937252
>Mandatory stress
I wouldn't say so, it's like playing a stealth game if you're just going for the non combat objectives in solo

Man this game sucks.
I always die what the fuck is going on, there's no matchmaking putting me against other shitters it's always against sweaty fucks.

>>558937252
I will always say it, they should have just copied Division. Have maps that are PvE and have areas that are PvPvE
Division 2 is still chugging away peacefully

>>558937376
Literally just team up using free kits and do mida/cyac missions

Blast status?

>>558937376
>>558937376
awwwww, babbies first sandbox/extraction shooter

>>558937252
This. There is no feel good element to the game.

The actual game, is trying to uncover a tense conspiracy through factions and in level missions, but that alone, seperate from the PvP, can only be good if the narrative is extremely engaging.

To be honest, a lot of normies only get attracted to character stories. They lack the intellect to discern what’s actually happening at a conspiratorial level in Marathon.

So without any cool characters to latch onto, that’s another story problem.

Anyway this whole game is not a mass appeal game. It’s wild the sort of marketing it received.

>>558937297
It dont have to be like the other shooters, it can be way cooler!

imagine if you send recourses to an alternative reality where you didnt became a slave brain in a jar. Like a SOMA coin flip where you losed, but work for the "real" you.
Its not even "you" who enjoy the fruits of your labor, but the next dimension version of you. so its really grimm and cyberpunk.

>>558937519
I actually kind of like it since it reminds me much of Death Stranding and STALKER in a way, especially with the dread you might get domed at any time.

>>558937376
You’re playing it wrong. PvP is not the actual focus. Go in with free kits, do missions and get out.

I repeat this is not a PvP game.

>>558937519
the guy that mention a place to call home was rigth, nothing feel welcoming on this game. at least narratively, but people fuck with that kind of thing.

>>558937748
Go play Solium Infernum then

>>558937376
Get Free Kits from the Armory, focus doing contracts for CyAcme and NuCal; shift fully into leveling NuCal to get green and blue shields at the Armory then go into Archne for the shotgun.
???
Congrats, the game is now 70% easier

Stick to walls, crouch when you're looting, ping enemies for team, pop structure radar towers are mid to far range, smg for mid to close, pistols are all three. Volt guns pop shields ballistics are better on flesh

>>558937748
Im really waiting to see the next 2 maps, what if they are great?
One is on a Moonbase, and the other on a Spaceship, maybe on space? (probably on land)

>>558937748
you've been posting this for like 2-3 days time to move on

>>558937665
Yeah that's what i do, free kits i have nothing else anymore.
I dont even care when looting anything, i'll just end up being fodder for ghouls and wont bring it back to base.

>>558937517
Drop your faceit nigger

>>558937748
i'm going to try the division 2 and borderlands 3. Seems like those are the only decent semi-modern looter shooters out there. Maybe Remnant as well.

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marathon is pretty good when you don't have a bitch in your ear telling you it's bad

>>558937513
We have this many players on PC and we are only on the second page of best selling Playstation games, losing to Fallout 76, Warframe, Borderlands 4 and Forza Horizon 5. We are jamming and blasting.

>>558937665
>Go in with free kits, do missions and get out.
get out? to where? Runners dont have home to go back! yet

>>558937231
they have talked about adding a hub it will probably happen eventually

>>558937879
drop yours shitter

>>558937519
I don't know why Sony ok'd this when they're expecting mass appeal and extraction shooters are the exact oppisite

>>558937994
>I don't know why Sony ok'd this
because Sony is fucking retarded.
t. ps5 owner

>>558937664
>STALKER
This feeling is genuinely the only thing that keeps me going. The others are right about a lack of hub though, STALKER has those comforting moments of some friendlies huddling around a barrel fire with a guitar, and Marathon instead has you reach safety via a teleporter back to... blue, nothing. It's fitting to the lore, but that juxtaposition of comfort and stress could help make the game more appealing. Plus people love social hub / customization shit in a general sense.

>>558937852
the other is on the marathon ship so yes it is in space, both the other two are in space, outpost has like a meteor storm event that you must stay indoors for during its duration

>>558937924
OG Marathons are pretty good yeah, but new Marathon isn't. It has good potential and certain pieces are good, but it really doesn't work as a cohesive whole

>>558937963
>they have talked about adding a hub it will probably happen eventually
where? did they say if it was going to be cool?

crazy they didnt think about release the game with one.
The STRONGEST point of the game is the setting (and maybe the music/sound desing), and a hub is the perfect way to show dont tell lore!

They can make it so cool if its an abstract cyberspace with some fake "warm" to it.

>>558937748
>was hyped for highguard 2
lilbro...

>>558937231
Is the Ui better on console because I just quit when I didn't understand what the green squares I was clicking was even doing

>>558938038
I can confirm that Sony is fucking retarded
t. Sony employee

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The toilet spawn for Rook is pretty funny

>>558938160
in an interview awhile back i cant remember exactly when but the question was in relation to wanting to try the guns before taking them into a raid, they said they are thinking about adding a hub/social hub, was a few months back

>>558938163
>highguard
HG was all over the place and derivative, Marathon have a lot of cool lore, like the moths that preserve gene information etc
I just want cool lore man, give it to me.

>>558938126
the biggest flaw is the genre

should've been a doom 2016 style reboot

>>558937962
Delta Force actually does this part really well. It has the best “home base” aspect of all the shooters.
It also grounds you more in the world and characters.

If Marathon had a home base with some humans and some dudes in shells, it would be interesting.
In Delta Force, it’s really nice to walk around your base and those characters are your vendors.

With Marathon, the vendors are too far removed (Arachne is something you’d see on another planet in Warframe, NuCaloric wouldn’t have an in person represntative), so it all feels strange and too menu based.

>>558938126
>OG marathon
OG Marathon had some of the worst fucking level designs and puzzles known to man
2 was pretty good but Infinity was straight trash

>>558938230
>few months back
>still not done

blud wtf

>>558937376
the casuals all quit, its not a fun game

>>558938372
>the casuals all quit, its not a fun game
If play Fortnite teach me something if that casuals come back if something fun came on the update.
The Marathon ship map is already hype for me

>>558938254
Its still weird that they never thought about Marathon the Doom 2016 treatment. If they felt like it didn't work with their current setting, then something like Doom 3 or Bioshock 1, would still be a good fit given the audio logs, setting, and it would be perfect for having small combat areas that the player is forced to fight in with the current combat system. Even the heat system would probably play fine with it.

guys how do i fix my fucking ping so i can play it keeps spiking to 200 randomly and i cannot fucking play!!!!!!!!

>>558938460
The reason people play Fortnite, and why Fortnite is so good is because of the rate of attention and experience.

There’s always something going on in a match and if not, there’s always a fun way to get around the map.

>>558938460
1. Fortnite is free and not $40
2. Cryo archive is going to be the labs equivalent and there's zero chance casuals will ever get what's required to enter it.

>>558938526
Move to Seattle, Washington.

>>558938526
i literally live in washington like 2 hours from seattle

>>558938615
Fortnite also had the luxury of not being a game that shareholders wanted to make back $3,600,000,000+.

>>558938615
>2. Cryo archive is going to be the labs equivalent and there's zero chance casuals will ever get what's required to enter it.
And when they do, some rat nigger is going to shoot them from a dark corner while they're getting face-fucked by the high damage bullet sponge NPCs. Sending them back to the cuck perimeter maps.

>>558938653
check controls, there is a section for some sort of vehicle

>>558938652
Take dmg04's computer and play it on that, he's probably whitelisted for lower pings.

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>gold shields in the game
>take reduced damage if reinforced
seems reinforced shields wont be locked to gold, maybe people will finally stop whining about TTK when we start to see more of them

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>>558937748
>What the FUCK do I play now

>>558938230
>>558938356
https://www.instagram.com/p/DI1W-V1TDp6

>>558938802
>The game gets better after 50 hours bro, trust the plan
kek

>>558938802
yeah ive seen reinforced shields before but there wasnt a clear definition like "take half damage". im pretty sure it was "take less damage".

>>558938878
>44w ago
Oh Bungie lol

>>558938952
pearls before swine.

>>558938952
Better than anything Bungie made after Halo Reach

Rook is genuinely fun, I've had some great interactions with other players. I've picked sides and helped in teamfights and 9/10 times the other team is thankful and will stop to chat or let me tag along. Maybe he's not required given all the free kits we are spoonfed, but I love Rook regardless.

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Things are looking GRIM

>>558936760
People use the word satanism with Bungie, I think it’s closer to Scientology even the Destiny Hope For The Future has a reference to bridges and sky. I mean like what the fuck kind of voodoo did the tell people behind closed doors whether selling some big projects pitch,consulting to shut down Last of Us project, and anything in between. This is like lvl 20 speech check tests. I think Marathon isnt total shit but like this is what they had to work ages on, big dollars thrown around, this alleged is supposed to be a top 5 game or else,like what the fuck? I feel crazy trying to wrap my brain around it. It’s not bad stuff, and I think will have a scene, there’s dumb fun farting around, I had no expectation for Rook and it’s fun, but like this game isn’t going to catch everybody. Industry is in shit hole

>>558939230
>20k player drop despite the entire FPS space putting #AD for 4 hours
FLOP INCOMING

Why the hell does it take a calendar year to use any fucking heal.

>>558938878
Thanks for the link anon

>>558938883
LMFAO

>>558937035
Xister, Jason Jones has as much involvement with nuMarathon as much as George Lucas has had with anything Star Wars recently. Use your fucking head

Normies and Casuals will probably never reach End-End game, hell, you can even do the very first part on the Server Slam and it's hell.
Right now, the "easiest" way to enter Cryo/Marathon is going to Dire Marsh, head straight to the area where it looks like the earth is disappearing, cracked and a yellowish wall around it; in and around that are and surrounding structures you can find a Legendary/Exotic Anomaly. If you've played any of the Destiny games it looks like a Vex Cube you shoot to open doors (it's extremely digitialized ice cube crossed with Tron and the Matrix effects tinted blue)
It'll either be just floating off the ground or inside a container - once you grab the Anamoly two things happen, first EVERYONE on the map can now see you and two you first need to head to a randomly given location on the map in under three minutes to stabilize the Anomaly. Then (everyone on the map can still see you) you need to go to extract without going down (Bleedout not fully dead). In the Slam once you extract you get, I think 75k credits but in the full release that anomaly piece is part of a key to get into Marathon/Cryo and only *one* person, the person carrying it gets access
The Epic and Legendary tiered UESC Commander has a chance of dropping it in perimeter but it's rare

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>it gets better with shields anon ttk is fine

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>>558939230
Trust Paul Tassi's plan, the west coast is just having dinner, taking a nice bath, and will hop back on Marathon when they're done with church on Sunday.

>>558937748
Jagged Alliance 2

>>558939230
its a punishing game, no wonder casual shitters are turned off. its the same reason why tarkov is a niche game.

>>558939372
it takes longer to heal that it takes to die

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>>558939582
The problem Bungie has is that it needs to be one of, if not the best selling game of the year. Watch out GTA VI...

>>558939582
yea thats basically how its going to be, i expect a playerbase of 50-100k similar to tarkov, with big boosts during new seasons, and i'd be perfectly happy with that

>>558939509
>v11
>600 rpm
have you shot the damn thing? that shit does NOT have 600 rpm.

>>558939643
>and i'd be perfectly happy with that
Sony paid $3.6B for them. Destiny has only been losing money and Marathon got a delay that Sony didn't even want because it should have been done years ago.

>>558939643
>i expect a playerbase of 50-100k
Who's gonna tell him?

>>558939672
that the charge gun? maybe they dont have anyway of limiting clicks per minute. not sure

>>558939492
>I think 75k credits but in the full release that anomaly piece is part of a key to get into Marathon/Cryo and only *one* person, the person carrying it gets access
>The Epic and Legendary tiered UESC Commander has a chance of dropping it in perimeter but it's rare
>BROS PLEASE IT GETS BETTER
>AFTER RELEASE YOU CAN GET INTO THE HARDER MAPS
>YOU JUST HAVE TO SURVIVE THE ENTIRE LOBBY
kek so the shitters will forever be stuck on these 2 garbage maps then. yeah that is great for player retention.

>>558939643
nigga it cant even maintain 80k on a free weekend with bad word of mouth. you think somehow that will lead to more people playing it when they have to cough up 40 bucks?

>>558939582
>>558939643
>spending $4 billion to make a niche game

BRAVO SONY

>>558939739
i literally do not give a fuck what sony wants, i will play the game, im not on the board of sony idc about the earnings wtf??

>>558939751
its the pistol you can cahrge yes. but spamming m1 does not even come close to 600 rpm.

>>558939643
The big question sits in Bungie direction, when does the hustle kick in, monetize battle pass, only so many earnable cosmetics(which if what we see now, it’s not nothing but only so many palette swaps), and what will get paywalled in inevitable DLC. An anon brought up weeks ago , what if Bungie made somebody who dropped a DLC locked weapon turn into a base game placeholder for a non DLC haver, considering they got that Trace Status that turns a weapon into credits upon swapping hands enough times, I could buy the anon’s theory

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>>558939925
You won't be able to play the live service slop if it's not making enough money for Sony. Remember Concord? Bungie clearly doesn't, otherwise they would have cancelled this when they had the chance.

>>558939895
yes i think it will stabilize at around 50k for the foreseeable future, i always thought people saying this would be a 2-300k player game were dreaming bc i realize this game is much more hardcore
i personally stopped playing bc i dont want to grind before release and have everything reset again

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>>558940106
>yes i think it will stabilize at around 50k for the foreseeable future

>>558940004
Meds

>>558940004
the game is already 1000x more successful than concord, concord literally got shut down in a week, concords studio also did not have the pedigree or record of bungie, its not getting shut down in a week, it will stabilize and like i said be basically a scifi tarkov with similar numbers and boons around updates

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10k - 30k is more realistic.
I genuinely fail to see any "hook".

>>558940208
>It will stabilize
You guys say that as often as you say you're having a blast.

>>558940239
thats because ur level 11 and dont understand the game yet

I'm having fun...
I'm sorry...

>>558940148
lets see where we are in a month, but also lets see where you are in a month (still a retard most likely)

>>558940239
if you guys want a comparison to other normie games going on, elden ring/nightreign get about 30k on average still as well

>This game is for everyone #MarathonTakeover
>Flops
>This is a hardcore game for hardcore pvp gamers, you have been filtered and just don't get it
What happens when they shut it down in 2 months?

>>558940106
id say 30-40k by the end of march.

>>558940360
>What happens when they shut it down in 2 months?
I move on? This isn't my personality or my job.

>>558940280
>recycled meme #5000
+500 4chan points to you sir!

Why would I ever pick Guarded Exfil unless it's 3m left in the match and literally my only option? I'll just wait 60s for the new ones to pop in.

>>558939825
>>558939492
Sounds like very watchable content, can’t wait to shove my plug my ass and tune into a bungie approved content creator who will pull some degen hours to get it and advance the watchable narrative because god forbid Bungie is ever normal about anything

>>558936023
>2k credits per run to bring 3 green shield and health kits
this game is doa

I hope you guys realize that within 3-4 days of the full games release the 1% of the playerbase is going to effectively have the game on lockdown due to gear disparity (there's no counterplay like Tarkov) and just endlessly farm people until the population drops to like 10k within a week.

The TTK is currently low, but it's an even playing field. With golden guns, it's not even remotely even.

>>558940239
wait for the full game, but personally i just enjoy the open world pvp vibe and like killing players so thats enough hook for me

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It will stabilize
I'm having a blast
The more you play the more fun you have
Games don't need high player counts
Bungie cooked
Preorder now

>>558940493
Maybe I'm coping but I feel like either credit value is super undertuned or cost is overtuned so people cannot cheese as badly. I've only had a few games right now where I got over 3k on extract, I tend to average 1500.

>>558940537
I’m just waiting for the moment people are going to be in Outskirts with gold gear just grief farming new players.

I wouldn’t even put it past Bungie haters to do that and ruin the game.

>>558940282
>you just have to play 50 hours to get it

>>558940452
i do it on void bc its easy to just stealth and throw smoke, can keep enemy players away as well

>>558940429
>I move on? This isn't my personality or my job.
Now say that without crying

>>558940668
Isn't matchmaking done by overall party loot value

>>558940670
>you just have to spend 50 hours in the thread of a game you hate to get why im such a retarded gay cuck

>>558940830
Why would I cry...?

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>>558940847
What's wrong with being gay?

>>558940808
>posted it again award

How the fuck do people run out of ammo and miss extract so often? Literally just fucking do your objectives and leave?

>>558939639
>2025
that was last year, I wonder if they have better chances now on 2026

Could have just made 3 player division survival fleshed out to a full game instead of this frankenstein abomination no-one likes

>>558940926
>pulled out one of his 500 pictures of gay men from his hard drive
thank you for proving my point

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>>558940668
>I wouldn’t even put it past Bungie haters to do that and ruin the game.
You know what must be done /mg/

>>558941048
I'm sure the extra 6 months of losses probably made it better for Bungie kek

>>558940945
yea because they probably genuinely feel that way and want to see some discussion bungie shill

>>558940990
How the fuck is that supposed to be fun

>>558940887
because you a bitch

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>>558941064
What's wrong with being gay though?
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/bungie-pride-2023

It's returning a blast to form!

>>558941225
How does that make me a bitch?

>>558941220
This game was supposed to change gaming forever

>>558941275
>continues to show his catalog of gay links and memorabilia he has saved to his computer
we get it already you like cock

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If you think about it, Chris won and Bungie lost. I hope he gets his $200M (price it cost to make Marathon btw)

>>558941275
maybe this pressuring times make them fire all the troons and add a Hub to the game.

>>558939492
>>558939825
>>558940473
So wait, is the fourth map just flat out inaccessible for solos then? Nobody is capable of doing the anomaly shit solo given that it literally puts a KOS tracker on you on the map.

This game has not been thought out.

>>558940990
First five minutes of the game you shouldn't be using your gun. All the semi-normal UESC enemies can be taken out in one to two hits with melee and if people are doing the free kit, it comes with a bag of ammo that most people forget to use to get more ammo for the starting weapon.
UESC turrets drop a piss ton of ammo too.
Also smokes completely neutralize UESC so you toss a smoke go into melee and wale on them till they die as they slowly walk out of the smoke then have a Chem or EMP in your bag for when you run out of smokes for Runners

>>558941420
>This game has not been thought out.
Is this your first Bungie game?

Why is this hardcore game not appealing to the casual audience?

>>558941420
wait if I kill the anomally guy, I dont get the key myself?

They just need to do that so if YOU kill the tracked guy you get the Marathon key (and if you get killed it goes to the next one etc)

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>>558941490
They're stupid fucking chuds

>>558941463
>it comes with a bag of ammo that most people forget to use to get more ammo
this has to be the shittiest mechanic

>>558940537
Add in just the likelihood Bungie is going to slack on any balance. Idc if they want the heal bitch to be more dignified and integral, Triage is absolute horse shit for removing so much brain power over heals and consumables for the team and the bot being able to be glued to your team for ages is a scam. Also can’t forget Thief, basically can see if loot was fucked with, can get outlines with xray when having line of sight, drone scans people, she can steal shit, she has very strong cores that of course naturally make her better, and movement tech with strand grapple, are you shitting me? Vandal looking pretty dog shit next to that

>>558941490
>Why is this hardcore game not appealing to the casual audience?
Unironically Lack of Hub, small objectives and a Pet at the hub (Casuals that NEVER heard of Marathon LOVED THE PINK CAT check adjunct image >>558940890)

>>558941420
>So wait, is the fourth map just flat out inaccessible for solos then? Nobody is capable of doing the anomaly shit solo given that it literally puts a KOS tracker on you on the map.
Yes. If by some miracle you do manage to get into the map, you will have the fun opportunity to die to a rat after you spend 10 mags and 30 medical items on some bloated HP boss. Thus sending you back to the starter town maps to start the process all over again.

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Not sure why people are even questioning if the game will succeed or fail when the creative director and architect for the pile of festering shit we have now left Bungie just last month quietly as they could be (he was the lead designer for Valorant before he left that prior to his gig at Bungie)

>>558941583
triage is basically the go to frame for free kits, the infinite healing is insane

>>558941653
>Not sure why people are even questioning if the game will succeed or fail when the creative director and architect for the pile of festering shit we have now left Bungie just last month quietly as they could be (he was the lead designer for Valorant before he left that prior to his gig at Bungie)
chat is this good news or bad news?

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>>558941653
Art director left too (probably fired, but publicity)

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>>558940668
>>558940537
extraction game players genuinely do not deserve this aesthetic and universe, i am seething.

>>558941064
>keeping proof of your ennemies degeneracy and hypocrisis is being attracted to what they commit
you need to go back

>>558941653
>>558941752
>>558941754
at least double check your facts before you post rumors from /v/ because Ziegler is still very much running the show at bungie

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But what if they add fun pve modes down the line?

>>558941636
Unironically there is a mind numblingy apparent easter egg on Dire Marsh to trigger Bingus to appear.
Chuckle fucks in the YT Discord I'm in refuse to elaborate but constantly take pictures of it from a distance. All I could get from them is that they start to appear on top of structures on Dire Marsh and as you get closer jumps and phases out

>>558940537
and the best shield barely shaves off a second from 99% of the guns in ttk
its a fuckin shitshow if they dont do something about it.

>>558941840
There won't be anyone left at Bungie to implement it

>>558941758
I love the Lore and also Im seething
Imagine if you could have your own in universe place to experience the lore outside menus, they can keep it cool cyberpunk

>>558941780
yea man its totally normal to have tons of images of gay shit on your computer alongside whatever horrific fucked up porn you have on there, totally normal! keep on fighting the good fight my totally not closeted culture warrior!! hoorah!

>>558941672
I was autistically farting around with counting frames, things boosted off cores, etc, like you could slow down his heal bots by like half speed and it would still be free as shit. Like in a game when keeping on top of health is a thing, the triage healing is just insane. Even the shareware effect where you eat consumable buff and give it to people with bots like cmon. That is busted.

>>558941784
theres like 15 of these retards that think fuding the general is going to hurt the game somehow. there is zero reason to engage with them

>>558941865
>Unironically there is a mind numblingy apparent easter egg on Dire Marsh to trigger Bingus to appear.
Ok. That based and Bingus-pilled, but Men, Imagine if you can have your own bingus on your hub?

(I LITERALLY looted a prototype pet on the game, and it was an autosell item, wtf? I WANTED for my stash, ONIGGER dont have the right to auto sell Him (it was a white prototype cat, I cant be the only one that looted that item, Im the only one?))

I really would love to know how much money Bungie is giving Skarrow because this fuck has been doing Marathon advertisements for the last two years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6S3kh8bvzM

Wasn’t there gonna be ingame trophy room?

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>>558942137
>Wasn’t there gonna be ingame trophy room?

>>558942056
this is the worst type of advertising.
>you dont like it because you just aren't playin the game correctly
i feel like i have to take it personally. playin shooters since doom as a kid for over 30 years, and i'm just missing some easy component like taking an angle like i haven't played a fuckin videogame in my life or applied that to something like throwing a fucking ball to play fetch with my dog
im crashing out

>>558941840
The game is an endless cycle of suffering by design, they won't do that. Bungie legitimately want (You) to suffer

>hamster wheel: the game

>>558942137
GIVE MY PET AND HUB (maybe a range to shoot my shitty weapon to test nerd shit like this >>558939509)

It can be all fake and on Tron dimension for what I care so it fit your Art director Trans vision
GIVE IT US THIS SOON OR THE GAME IS DEAD FOR CASUALS
WE NEED VISUAL THING TO ATTACH NARRATIVES, NO MENUS

>>558942056
That fat fuck does it for free whenever he can. They probably send him some McDonald's gift cards every 6 months or so.

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>The original person that one of the mass produced shells was based off of has gone rogue and has a chance of spawning in certain areas as an ultra strong ai controlled player with enhanced versions of their shell’s abilities

>>558942019
>everyone just hates the game ignore them

>>558941780
I like how he lost so he's just trying to concern troll now
>>558941929
you sound upset bungie shill

>>558941784
>Ziegler is still very much running the show at bungie
You mean Justin Truman

There won't be a hub because you are literally an engram floating in quantum flux until you get slammed into a shell and shot towards Tau Ceti IV.

>>558942269
this doesn't have a practice erena? holy shit

>>558942493
r/Marathon is the hub

>>558942056
I've never seen so many content creators and people on social media defend Marathon, in particular, the that they do it.
>Games not bad you're just not playing it correctly
>Games perfectly fine, maybe it's just not for you even though you play Tarkov, Arc Raiders, and Forever Winter
>The Shells are perfectly balanced and make sense, you're just not using Triage and Vandal the correct way
>The game is great and I'm having fun though, I still do have some critiques
Oh yeah? Which?
>The UI is the worse offender and not anything else - everything else is perfectly fine though and doesn't need to be fixed.

>Ziegler
>Truman
So who was the guy that give us the cool lore and what the one that refuses to give us a hub?
So we can hate correctly from now on

>>558942493
they are going to have that as a cinematic as you load into the game in the full game, right?

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Is bungie actually completely fucked if this game isn’t a smash hit or has everything been exaggerated from a long ass game of telephone?

>>558942056
Skarrow is basically trying to fill the Datto role. He also has been in cahoots with that limey pustule Mr Roflewaffles because Bungie basically gave him money to get CoD kiddies to play Marathon, he preemptively knew BO7 would suck so that’s when you basically had Roflwaffles all of a sudden start showing up in D2 content creator videos, making a d2 stuff, was on stage at GCX and very inorganic situations. He tried to cover his tracks and flip shit around by claiming how toxic the D2 community was but mostly it was him trying to make content for a game not a lot of people even watch and failing, and just how people knew he was a rat fuck. Skarrow was trying to ride that wave and my guess is that he figured that he could somehow pivot to Marathon and be like “the guy” for it but naturally people saw how bad Skarrow shills and appropriately roasts him for it.

>>558942536
>this doesn't have a practice erena?
Lore reasons...
I dont know how that poor soul made the excel sheet without one

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>>558942576
Pete Parsons left last year, 1 year before his retention bonus maxed out because he knew how bad Marathon would be. Is that who you're asking about?

>>558942579
LMAO

>>558942259
that's all games

>>558942689
>I dont know how that poor soul made the excel sheet without one
HOLY SHIT

>>558942620
Bungie is very much fucked if this fails, you know how they're releasing this in March? It's because they don't want to miss the end of the 2025 fiscal year even though they're launching to a lot of competition.

>>558941929
Read the url in your browser page, you're on 4chan.
Kill yourself shill.

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>>558942782
>if

>>558942690
I really like all the implied lore on the game, with the genetic weirdness, and the high tech that make everything nihilistically pointless and greedy at the same time. The Soul trap and body horror, the collapsing feeling behind the colorfulness.

I saw the photos with all the females and basedboys on the dev team, but Im sure there is some capable people behind that bringing the big themes to the game
>>558942620
Even this image, look how grandiose and mysterious it feels. There is some capable dude here. was the dude that left the team already isnt

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>>558940493
didnt mean to reply

>>558940601
yeah i have 20k banked but i freekit a lot. been getting assraped today though, 6 games in a row where we frag out but get third partied and everyone revives too often. id be broke already if I was actually buying guns, ammo, shield, and meds each game.

>>558942805
Meds

>>558942805
It's not normal.

>>558942620
People called everybody liars, haters, doomers, incels, etc about “the rumors of low Final Shape pre orders” and then Destiny took one of the longest delays it had in the game’s history because the content they originally had was a lot less than what actually ended up in the game. Sometimes internet bullshit has some truth

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>>558942620
Little bit of Column A a little bit of Column B
Sony hasn't said it outright but everyone assumes that they're expecting/thinking tons and tons of players are gonna play it when in reality not only is it an Extraction Shooter it's based off of the most sweatlord-tier ES Tarkov
Then you find out that Sony didn't want to but gave Bungie an extra year to make this thing work and even delayed Destiny 2's next expansion/episode/update for three fucking months; virtually killing it in its entirely (the TWAB, for instance, the weekly news update has now been typed by AI for the past three weeks) when you realize that most people who play Destiny 2 play it for the PvE above all else so its very unlikely they'll play let alone enjoy Marathon
On top of all of that we have this free weekend and after the initial release it's permanently lost 50% of its player base when other games in the same class/genre sustained higher numbers for their Alpha/Beta/Demo Previews for the game; and looking at Steam Charts for games being bought Marathons Pre-Orders are abysmal

Would you queue up as rook with me on NA?

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you can imagine how the comments explaining their truthful reasoning go regarding down/upvotes

how are we doing sisters?

>>558943073
It's actually the best game I've ever played. I'm having a blast.

>>558943092
Doing knife-only Rook runs...
Probably killing the game for people as I win 1v3 with just a knife...

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>>558943092
Oh you know, just getting mogged by Wallpaper Engine.

>>558942782
whats fucked up is, despite me wanting it to succeed(it wont), guess who will get blamed for it?
>you, the gamer who said you didn't like it

>>558942493
>”in order to combat mental instability that can arise when a human consciousness spends extended time in an immaterial environment, runners have been provided a physical personal leisure quarters and communal recreation centre”
There, done

>Marathon about to break into the Top 5 sellers in US
uh oh

>>558942987
Everyone also theorized that the Final Shape delay was mainly due to Marathon taking up a lot of resources (Marathon was supposed to release two years ago) and after they saw their half assed expansion barely attracted hype they were tardwrangled into doing a bunch of content for D2 like Pantheon and adding more to TFS itself like the prismatic "subclass" which was really just more asset recycling. The assumption is that this also internally delayed Marathon in the process, then they scrambled to try to make two live services work at the same time but failed miserably and here we are now.

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>>558942493
THIS ONE GET IT
>>558943206
Virtual cyberspace is essentially FREE for a corporation, pay with fake reality, Get REAL LIFE material gains

ABSOLUTELLY DYSTOPIC and it give us a Hub, and cool shit.

We ARE the guy in this pic, we sell our real soul for Virtual Gains. IT FITS MARATHON

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>>558943238
That's kind of crazy I thought everyone hated this game and refunded it

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y'all folks need to chill, marathon is actually a blast to play

>>558943391
>26 views
obsessed

>>558943238
>>558943376
Love to see where all these purchases are coming from like Shareholder and CEOs off-shore accounts or something.

>>558943176
>Wallpaper Engine
That cant be real, no way people are having a BLAST with Wallpaper Engine.
Has to be bots.

>>558943431
Yes #MarathonPartner

I just saw someone named CunnysaurusSex in-game
isn't that illegal?

>>558943436
Meds

>>558943042
Said in the other post but that Final Shape delay held marathon back a bit as well. 10 Year Destiny anniversary gets turned into Into The Light filler freebie before Final Shape drops and they took people off Marathon to ensure that was squared away as well as Final Shape that was on delay. Marathon was supposed to be like I think? early autumn 2024? Early public testing was late 2023 originally but yeah I can completely buy the theories a lot of this shit got reworked badly even before sitting in hands of recent testing

>>558943439
>Has to be bots.
it is, the kremlin wants to see marathon fail
but us blasthavers are going to save it

>>558943376
>>558943238
Blasting thru the Charts boys

I've come to realize that the AI isn't even that good. the AI doesn't really take cover, flank, remember your last seen position, or even shoot accurately, they just have so much fucking health and automatically sidestep when they get shot that that makes them "hard" to fight.

Man, I actually really like everything about this game, except the fact that it's PVP.
I would kill for a game like this that is just co-op.

>>558943436
oof. Let that sink in

>>558943504
Maybe, go and report them so Bungie loses another preorder.

why is it that people act like you raped their mother if you enjoy this game

>>558939509
>>558939509
i dont get it. it takes a whole second to kill someone? i could swear its way shorter if you hit ur shots. people in white or green basically die instantly.

also
>BRRT ttk
i feel like thats a lie. thats just not accurate.

>>558943391
i can already tell this guy is black

The only blast that will be happening is sony shareholders next week.

>>558943603
>get btfo on /v/
>come back here to complain

LMAO

>>558943540
Destiny 2 sorta exists and has the exact same enemy archetypes, too bad they killed it.
Destiny 1 also has the same enemy archetypes and animations (not kidding) and is widely considered the better game at the moment.

>>558943653
>i feel like thats a lie. thats just not accurate.
Maybe we could test if thats true...

If we have a Hub with a Range to test ttk...

The reason why I’m hesitant to completely buy into the “bungie is FUCKED is marathon doesn’t become a worldwide hit” is because they would’ve had some time to tweak the art direction into something a bit safer with more mass appeal if that was the main priority, but they didn’t. (Could’ve just been out of stupidity but idk)

>>558943653
theres another list somewhere https://marathon-guide.com/weapons/grid

even with purple shield, only i think repeater has a ttk of 2.something. everything is below 2 seconds ttk

I still can't believe they focused on this slop for 6 years instead of Destiny 3.

What does Signal Jammer mean?

>>558943742
thanks for confirming your complaints are culture war mental illness and you have no actual interest in good games, valuable contribution

>>558943772
>(Could’ve just been out of stupidity but idk)
Is this your first Bungie game?

>loot shit
>get killed
>loot shit
>loot more shit
>get killed before i can extract
I had so much fun in that 1 hour gaming session truly a return to form.
Worst part is i dont even know what i did wrong, i dont see the game having a future at all i'm sorry bros.

>>558943830
This guy is still having a meltdown? You sound completely mindbroken with all this culture war posting, like just close your eyes internet words can't hurt you.

>>558943830
What do you consider a good game, sir?

>>558943823
probably can't be tracked with the recon pulse or smth idk

>>558943073
>after several hours
These guys aren't even hiding that they are paid

>>558943772
They just need to add Hub, where you see things

Why even a brain in a Jar would peruse thru menus to pick a loadout? how it even pick the guns from the stash if it dont even have hands/virtual body?

The lack of Hub make less sense on this setting
Also that could fit the PINK CAT that every casual know.

>>558943823
It counters Signal Diggers

>>558943898
Why are you apologizing for not having fun? It's a video game.

>>558943896
0.25₹ have been deposited to your account saar!

>>558943715
Destiny has more of a MMO style of progression and preset mission style, I kinda want this gameplay loop with the "per-run" stakes but with the focus on PVE.
I'm just sad about the artstyle, it's extremely my shit and I don't think a big budget game is ever going to touch it again.

>>558943436
I still call bluff that there is some fudging of numbers when it comes to vendors and more official retailers. Just like how Bungie was selling Destiny bundle keys on green man for a special charity thing for their bungie foundation and they wrote off the copies as a loss for taxes and then can scam doubly with the sale factored in towards charity

>>558944015
So you basically want helldivers, I get what you mean this game has a lot of the same vibes. Too bad Bungie can only do small static maps, it's genuinely sad that just by playing for one day I already fully memorized the entirety of the maps, all this prefab artstyle would lend itself very well to procedural generation, like what was Bungie thinking?

>>558943504
I wish I screen shotted it but I saw somebody who had the lucky10p’s son timelost handle

>>558943552
LMAO

>>558942493
>There won't be a hub because you are literally an engram floating in quantum flux until you get slammed into a shell and shot towards Tau Ceti IV.
If ONI the npc can have a Physical body representation, The Player can too. It would make the presentation easier to read to the casual player.

>>558944113
Helldivers has absolutely no verticality

so, how many more enemy types are they holding off on showing us? Sure the main releae is going to have a lot more variety than human shaped robot 1, 2, and 3.

>>558944253
humanoid robots but RED, maybe YELLOW if you're good

>>558944253
The game have a lot of water environments, maybe some lurking alien that pop out if you get near water.
I want more body horror, like half bio half robot. Arent they growing biomaterial on the labs or something

>>558944113
>it's genuinely sad that just by playing for one day I already fully memorized the entirety of the maps
Worse than that (and an actual problem) is that the player spawns are too easy to remember. At this point I know all the spawns, so I can just cheese people that think they’re safe for the first minute of a game by killing them when they’re sprinting to wherever they wanna go

>>558944113
Kinda, I haven't actually played HD2 but AFAIK it doesn't have the punishment for dying? like an extraction game has. Or at least not in this scale.
Also agree on the map gen, it's also disappointing that so much of it is the generic open-worldslop types of areas like jungles and wastelands when it could have been a really fucking interesting futurist-urban setting to lean on. Though apparently the last locked zone seems to be what I'm looking for.

jfc this codex page. this is some DRY lore.

>>558944205
Does ONI have a physical body?

>>558944491
At least you don't have to download an app to view it this time.

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>>558943979
I like arc raiders menu, where the order you unlocked your workships, is how you they show up in your house, its just a little nice flavor customization that reset on wipe
and you get a pet that gets the basic resources for you after every mission, doesn't matter if you succeed or not

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>>558944484
they could redeem it if they make us go on spaceships with labyrinth type corridors to navigate
they need an area to constrast the clown world character designs. everything looks like a bouncy castle right now

>>558943771
i thought it was way lower than 0.5ms on average
that ttk seems pretty high actually..

>>558944643
Isn't the Marathon supposed to be this giant moon sized spaceship? It would be a perfect setting for procedurally generated maps, just a completely different experience each time too.

>>558943923
yea he's been shitposting the last few hours

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>>558944563
If she can have a big ol head, we should be able to have a body too. How is she supposed to sell my things for credit if nobody have hand on the brain jar????

>>558944603
It have to be a little more dystopic and sad, but something like that. Arc Raiders is surpricingly warm, people are literally playing instruments and singing songs on that game. We cant have that.

>>558944643
>clown world character design

what does that even mean

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>>558944814

>>558944814
>clown world
2016 linguo for woke, Nonsensical but flashy? Check Concord designs for what he probably mean by clown world

>>558944491
It's astounding how little effort they put into it, most codex entries are literally in the paragraph length.

How hard is it to hire a starving writer to actually write?

>>558944860
nta but seen from afar, she really does look like some kinda clown, even her lipstick just looks retarded.

>>558943771
>>558944716
how did people decide the smaller TTK was called a "High" ttk, its a lower number than a bigger number, but maybe there is a reason for it

>>558944982
>>558944923
thats just how i describe it. im tryin to say it in a good way by the way. i like it but the game balance and marketing is almost making me give up on it.
like knowing i have to put my cat down in few days so im mentally preparing for it.

>>558944860
>>558944982
seriously, who is realistically customizing their shell to look like that while trying to earn credits

>>558936760
I don't really think it's horror-esque, aside from the music and jumpscare sound effects. The actual game is a little cyberpunk in aesthetic with ADHD elements. I think where they fail is thinking this appeals to a big audience.

I don't think Extraction games are going to be the next big thing unless the formula undergoes some really important evolution. I hated dying at exfil, I hate dying because I can't find exfil, and I hate dying and losing all my stuff if I carry it into the map. That said, I also played EvE Online for years and I'm used to losing shit when I die. Taking that into account, I never go in with anything but the free or sponsored kit.

Adding a story to your Extraction game is kind of neat, but it's all so fucking predictable and you can totally see the twist coming that I'm just not that impressed. At a minimum, they should find a way to smooth out the process of getting into the game and recovering from your losses. Losing from RNG when the RNG doesn't even give you anything worth the randomness, unlike the rewards you can make from gambling at the casino, just makes this feel unfair.

>>558944936
Probably got Grok to write it

>>558945089
I think in the lore runners don’t get to customise their shells, they just kind of receive whatever the silkworms from sekiguchi shit out

>>558937054
They both have their appeal but I think they completely fucked up with Destiny. Not even Destiny 2, but original Destiny. They took the science fantasy aspect in the wrong direction and every expansion has shrunk the setting rather than expanded it.

>>558944716
you're using words as a manipulation tool and its making me hostile
>thought it was WAY LOWER than .5
were going off fuckin milliseconds man. you are not a super human robot to be able to talk like that.

some of these guns are hitting .5 and less on purple shields. thats fucking low.
in an actual practical setting of seeing someone, pointing your crosshair at them and pressing trigger, 1.5-2 seconds is fast as fuck.

>>558945103
I hope they go darker in tone.

>>558945206
>you are not a super robot
what are you talking about retard?
any good player has a reaction time below 200ms. the difference of 500ms vs 1200ms is fucking massive.
and besides the snipers, railgun and maybe magnum no gun has a ttk that fast.
the V11 ttk on that chart is simply false, the firerate is wrong.

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>558945218

HOW DO YOU KILL A UESC COMMANDER? THEY ALWAYS HAVE BARRIER UP

You absolutely get melted in this game. There’s zero movement to react to anything either.

I had one encounter pushing someone reviving a teammate, got to them, face to face, two shot gun shots on them and about 13 smg bullets into me and it’s over. That’s at full health and green shields.

That’s gotta be about 0.6 seconds.

Where did they get this idea for the ttk from considering Halo and Destiny’s shield system is fine here?

>>558945218
Even if they do I don't know that I would care. Part of the appeal of "mercenary" stories is the idea that you can do what is rare in the real world: pull yourself up to success and wealth through immense personal risk. If they go darker and nihilistic then what's the point?

Please post webms of yourself getting beamed in 0.5s or less by guns. I want to know what I'm missing...

>>558945103
>anything but the free or sponsored kit.
You literally get showered with free shit via completing objectives and leveling up your faction relations, what do you have to save

>>558945364
lets bring up the v11 numbers to tryin and discredit the list alright man lets do that. very good lets call me a retard too im sure that really will make me listen to you

holding m1 for 2 seconds to get a kill at the most, is fuckin insane. shut the fuck up. no one wants to pvp in a game like that except sweaty fuckin morons who have monetary gain in it.

>>558945424
I want the Halo Infinite grapple in this. That'd help a lot.

>>558945434
That why they need to add a Virtual home of cyber pleasures to came back after each runs. So you fill like you are building something.
I hope they listen.

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>UESC BMs you as you die by pumping some more rounds into you
Okay that kind of made me laugh.

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>>558945490
im sure its easy to picture gettin one tapped by a shotgun.
i know because its happened to me

>>558945490
Its feels fast, and is one of the most common complains. They need to change the ttk or they are cooked (on the bad sense of the word)
that and the UI

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>>558945146
idk they seem pretty personalized, but maybe its just junk they put on

>>558945515
>2 seconds is insane
I get it, you never played FPS games in your ENTIRE LIFE. But this isn't World of Warcraft, Runescape or New World.

>>558945410
Kite it around a pillar or a table and shoot it on the head by the sides, or throw a smoke grenade and knife it to death.

I think at least 70% of the people complaining about dying instantly would likely have their problems solved if they played destroyer. His thruster dash is the easiest way to stop yourself from getting absolutely fucked since the dash is almost impossible to track, and you can cover enough ground with him to actually make it to cover when you get jumped or need to push

but of course everyone just wants to play triage for free heals or assassin because he looks cool, both of which require good positioning, so they inevitably die because they're fucking retarded

>>558945643
i haven't played a shooter intensely since 1.6 and source
i know what a spray from an AK and m4 is like. that shit is ingrained in me.
its even worse in this game because of aim assist. its insane. quit tryin to defend it.

>>558945643
You never played good FPS games in your life but Halo 3 was peam with BRs
Even Arc Raiders doesn't allow people to die in 2 seconds.

>>558945642
Like that! where does she sitting if not on a place???

Why the toons can have bodies to hang out on cinematics but not on gameplay?

We need a hub so that make any sense.

Vandal is on a place in that webm, but not on a run, she HAS to be hanging out somewhere, even if its a virtual world, that it was I mean.

>>558945704
This game needs Halo’s ttk. I’d even just get rid of shields and all this shit, just make a full shields and let them recharge slower.

>>558945679
>you're just playin the game wrong thats why you're dying
>just have good positioning
holy fuck sarr

>>558945679
>they're fucking retarded
Yes! Thats the casual playerbase
Do you want the game to succeed or not????

>>558945762
I seriously thought thats what this game was going to be, I'm so upset

>>558945762
thats what i was expecting but apparently everyone that played destiny 2 was okay with this because they are used to it.
im sure thats where this anon came from>>558945643

keep hearing how the playtesters bitched about the long ttk because they couldn't, get this, listen closely, they weren't able to 1v3 a whole squad by themselves, you know, for..."hype moments"

>>558945510
Honestly? Nothing. At the end of a run I see a lot of shit get saved to my vault and then I have to sell it manually. The only longer-term stuff I have in there are 3 guns and their ammo. I sell off mods and shit because I don't know what to do with them yet.

>>558945734
they obviously fucked up and just paid 800 people to jerk off for 6 years

>>558945679
I don't know. I got two-shot when some runner flanked my team while we were reloading after we killed 5 UESC bots and another runner. That was nasty, especially when my health bar wasn't flashing red or anything. How are you even supposed to learn where the exfil spawns when that happens?

>>558945976
they really need a quick way to mass select and sell shit in your UI
holding a button for individual stuff will be such a pain when you have a ton of it

the ttk for a game like this is really uninteresting, fights are over before they start based on who sees who first like cowadooty lobbies.

>>558946008
It can be still images like *** ******* hubs, nothing fancy
maybe a little of movement or glitch effect to show its fake.

They still have a chance to fix things up! Im hopeful

>>558945698
ok unc from portugal, ttk in cs is literally like 200ms. so 2-5 times faster than this game.
>>558945704
Oh yeah? Try me. I played
>quake
>unreal tournament
>cs
>titanfall
>tribes
>cod
>battlefield
>every half life 1 and 2 mod you can think of, including of course Day of Defeat
>timesplitters
>halo
>medal of honor
>crysis
>killzone
>portal
>borderlands
>fear
>serious sam

>>558946070
um anon, your tension gauge? your hype moment?

>>558945679
You can also pretty much instantly slide on Vandal to get the same result so long as there's a doorway/cover that doesn't require jumping.

>>558946205
forgot to mention
>apex legends
and yeah ttk is literally a fraction of this game in almost all of them

how do you progress if you just die 50 matches in a row

>>558946205
>2 seconds
>2-5 faster

>when the second fastest time on purple shields is 2 seconds~

you lost. you're retarded. your argument will never work in your favor. keep listing single player shooters like it means anything in a multiplayer context for a half baked genre from the past 10 years

im seeing no Doom and you want to slap in borderlands so therefore you're a faggot

>>558946291
I think a lot of people are complaining because they don't know how fragile they are.
I do find it annoying that the waster and the long shot are completely fucking broken compared to most other guns aside from the autoaim volt throwers