Trainwrecks Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-217955>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>559750328
>yuritranny OP
Remember when people said not to vote for Silver because all the Silverfags, even before she came out, were being annoying faggots? I remember.
Doorman is the Troubadour he just kills im his days off from work
>>559776547Is this your first /dlg/ thread or something?
>>559776336Yeah, I'm not playing until this game is fixed. I can't carry Oracle lobbies anymore because Wraith shows up on the enemy team, and if it's not her then it's Calico/Kelvin/Victor.This is pants on head retarded balancing.
>>559776935Just derank until you're archon/emissary (learn a new character) and enjoy the clown fiesta, it's not that hard
Is it a good time to take a small break from the game? Feels like every game I'm just getting fucked.
>>559776993N, it that anon, but how do you derank? I've somehow went to Archon after a few successful games and I clearly don't belong there. Been a Ritualist for months.
>>559776993I'll derank alright. My rank will decay because I'm not playing this. Spirit nuking was an issue last patch and they made it even worse. Victor was pure cancer aids late game and they made it even worse. They forgot why Kelvin was AIDS and brought him back. Wraith is braindead easy to play and just wins at 35k souls. Calico is much the same.
genuinely why do trannies infest this game so much
Holy fuck this game was a serious clownfest. They backdoored both our shrines and then we just killed them all and farmed them in their base for like 10 minutes. We couldn't push cause we had no waves, and fucking Drifter decided yes, it was time to deliver the urn instead of helping us take down the enemy shrines. Eventually Venator got a clue and took the shrines. Really funny that as a fucking Paige I giga-buffed myself and manfought everyone with a stun combo.
They should buff Silver.
>>559776553Those people were more annoying than silverfags tbqhwy
Eating out Silver's hairy pussy instead
>>559777248Mina, Silver, Celeste. Triple slam dunk.
>yamato ults>run away during the 50 year long animation
They should add a Chinaman and have him beef with Yamato
>check out fanart>have to go to twitter (curse upon its name)>check out holliday fanart (vid related)>everyone there is just a trannyWhy the fuck is this the case?>>559777248It's a mystery but I suspect it's because these people have literally no lives, get obsessed with whatever they're into at the moment (Deadlock) and just disproportionately spam about it.
May e you should stop thinking about trannies so much and play the game
>>559777427BASED as FUCK
semi unrelated but what thappened to the internet?>try to find out what rejuvenator does im confused>what does rejuvenator do in google>get outdated slop from 2024 awful articles from TheGamer from 2024>where is the info?!>remember theres a deadlock wiki have to go to it and then search in their for what it does and there i got the info the heck?
>>559777607>"oh no there's weeds in my garden!">"oh my god stop obsessing over weeds all the time bro", said the weed
>>559777693Deserved for reading the ai overview
no one cares play the game stop going on twitter
>>559777607the last two games I played in brawl had "blah blah catgurl" tier names on both teams and they were all :3ing or talking about yuri
dlg tell me something I don't know
>>559777889I didnt! i was looking for a wiki or something i didnt read it where did you get that I read it from there?
>AHHHH AHHHH THERE ARE TRANNIES IN MY HEADThat's your problem buddy, I don't care. Anyway, they should nerf Wraith and Calico ASAP.
>>559777930had a graves with the name :3 go 1 and 14 who kept talking about lesbian and gay sex we still won somehowthis fanbase is even more subhuman than Overwatch's somehow
>indirect replyI accept your concession
>>559777184It's almost like they have a forum that fucking sucks and can't get actual communication outside of discord (which also fucking sucks)
Today I am going to reply to obvious bait.
You're mad at third worlders and russians but they SINGLE HANDEDLY hold the line in EU servers NA bros are on their own sorry...shouldn't have gotten psyoped
>>559778051Tactical feeding. Graves goes 1/14 so her teammates can get more souls on kills. She doesn't need souls she just POOOOOSHES.
Every patch this game somehow gets worse and worse.
What a dogshit patch. I don't know why they basically buffed Graves, and I play her. Her wall is nasty now.
deadlock should stay gate kept i keep getting retards and lobotomites specifically on my team no matter what i do. people who have never touched a mouse and keyboard in their entire life. going fucking crazy cuz this game is gangstalking me with shitty teammates to force a 50% winrate
Remind me, why were people complaining that Silver was weak as is and shouldn't have been nerfed?
>>559778240you're the tourist then because those lobotomites have been in the game day one the 0 and 17 farming haze during team fights is a literal staple of this game
>>559777693Google and other big techs are all fully staffed by jeets nowHope you like!
>>559778130God bless thirdies for bullying pronoun obsessed faggots and troonies.
>>559778259>wraith goes 1 and 10what shit low is this?
>Celeste untouch>Apollo basically untouched>Rem is still a menace>Wraith, Calico and MO now run the lobbies and pray to God they're not on the same team
>>559778381You can see the rank in the image, you blind retard.
Alright I've had enough nerf doorman againTired of constant bell spam
>>559778387Dont worry we'll nerf Paradox again
>>559778259>Not a single counterbuySorry anon but it looks like you and your team are dogshit. Post match idand I will tell you the exact mistakes
>>559778516>>Not a single counterbuyI bought Disarming Hex, Juggernaut, and Bullet Resilience. Also Dispel Magic for Haze's Focus Lense. If those aren't counter buys, then what is?
I really want to imagine Paige has a really cute dragon-sona and has the same nerdy booky look. I really want to see that. I want Paige to hold me and automatically yap for hours about her interests.I want a nerdy gf who just nerds the fuck out like a radio station that just always plays. Anyways yeah, dragon-sona Paige please.
>go full gun graves>deal zero (0) damagewhy is this
>>559778338your welcome
another match, another retard having a melty on voice comms because we're down 5k at 15min
Autocorrect idk how I got automatically that's weird. I meant constantly
>fighting Venator and Ivy>Ivy ults and takes Venator away when he's low>swap both of them back to the teammulti swap is kino
>>559778618nerdy dragon girls stuff their cunts with giant dragon dildos and will pretend its your fault they can't feel you
I'VE GOT THEM
>Graves is a weak lanerSo that was a fucking lie. This bitch can instagib souls with auto-aim.>Just push her!And then get raped by a bunch of skeletons? She has double your farm and just out-trades you.
>>559778709I wanna get blown by her while she rides a knot anyways, this is fine.
>>559778741you can light melee to destroy every single skull
street brawl is just whoever has the most new people with 5 hours total playtime insta loses, pretty shity gamemode that needs proper matchmaking
Reinstalling CS2 to have something to play in the time it takes for them to fix this shit ass abortion of a patch. Deadlock isn't fun anymore.
>>559777664nice bush
>>559778775And while you are doing that she is shoving her disembodied hand up your ass.
>>559778812>crying about a for fun unranked modeyou have no friends, miserable cunt. kys
Holliday rework hype!
>>559778945>for fun mode>isn't funMany such cases!
>>559779040never ever holliday bwo...
>>559778287i'd rather have oldfag haze feeders than all these newfag casual retards who only play because their favorite dogslop streamer/youtuber told them to,Faggot.
>>559778894CS2 is even more dogshit than this, don't lie to yourself. You'll just come running back sooner or later. In fact, why don't you reinstall TF2 while you're at it, at least Valve can't lie to you and say they still want you to have the best experience in a mp game.
>>559779040I DON'T WANT HER TO BE REWORKEDI LIKE DOING FUNNY BING BING WAHOOO THROWING FIREBALLSI WANT A HOLLIDAY MOD THAT TURNS HER INTO FIREFLOWER MARIOSTOP MAKING ME USE GUNS
>>559779228Just play Celeste
sex with the hidden king
>>559779314NOSTUPID SPARKLES IS STUPIDI LIKE BARREL
>main Paradox>got her 99.9999% of the time I wanted to>constantly surprised by playing other shit now as everyone is suddenly running bomb builds because "zOMG NADE SO BROEK NOW">all she got is 0.2 extra scaling in exchange for 16 less base damage (80 spirit to break even), 0.8s duration, 0.2m per pulse and another 2% amp at T3, but lost the slow>meanwhile the wall has zero scaling now and the ult does not heal you to full in an instant with 80% spirit lifesteal off the pulsesThe grenade was always fuckhuge if you specced for it and would utterly rape anything that was actually stupid enough to stand there in the middle for the full duration, stationary objectives in particular. It's only a bit better now, what the fuck is this new craze?
>>559779325I'm literally ALWAYS saying this.
>>559779431People are pretty often retarded meme-driven sheeple, anonIt ain't a new phenomenon, popularity feeds off itself until it burns out
>People with 0 Mirage games keep insisting he got massively buffed even as his winrate has plummeted to the lowest of any heroHow the fuck do you look at "Fire Scarabs cooldown changed from 'whole ability' to 'per charge and increased by 5s per charge'" and think this is a buff?
It's really weird that silences don't stop channeling skills like in every other MOBA, Mo would be a lot more bearable if that's how it worked.
>>559778624obv its because youre retardedspirit may be your thing then
This is my team's Holliday at 20 minutes.
>>559778678Laning phase doesn't matter
>>559779554Counterplay to a spirit character? Can't have that in my Deadlock!
>>559779096It's Holliday's inevitable fate to be reworkedYou know this in your heart of hearts.
Has anyone had a single game since the patch that wasn't a massive one sided stomp with multiple people on the losing team going 3/12? It seems like they fundamentally changed the nature of the game
>the most powerful ultimate in game that can win you any teamfight>playing Gun Seven insteadWhy are Seven players so fucking dumb? Is it because they're gay and sucked Kelvin's ginger dick?
>>559779485I'm 90% sure that change was an oversightIt's so comical and laughably retarded that there's just no way they thought it through properly.>1/4th of the match is over by the time scarabs go off cooldown
Read a bookI am no longer asking
>>559779897>I'm 90% sure that change was an oversightIf it were, it would've been hotfixedThis is pure retardation on full display that we're seeing from Yoshi and co.
Oh, god, NOT AGAIN>*shapeshifts into a melee creep and gets 200 HP back*>*watches helplessly as someone climbs a stripper pole*>*gets shot and dies*>*watches yoshi prepare another nerf to ensure that next patch they don't even need to climb the pole*
>>559779863they made troopers strongerand spirit shred is overtunedi expect it will be fixed soonish
>>559779941Thanks doc
>>559779601she is having a barrel of fun!
>>559779203CS2 is about as fun as pre-patch Deadlock and I haven't played TF2 since 2011. Enjoy whatever noskill busted character you're using I guess, but I want fair gameplay.
>>559779098>moves goalpostslmao tourist detected
why is apollo allowed to do whatever he wants>3 disengages>free counterspell>inb4 just buy slowing hexhe will just 2 away and then come back with his 3 while hex is on cdalso why even add a ban system if every game i get the banned hero in the enemy team what the fuck
>>559776336Can anyone explain what is happening to ranks in deadlock?I stopped playing the mage before the new character update and I was around arcanist, then i just played street brawl for a little bit after a losing streak and I skipped all the way to emissary 2, stopped playing the game for a few weeks and came back yesterday, lost my last game and now I am in archon 2.Why does my rank keep increasing when I keep losing or not even playing the game? The match I had yesterday was not different than any other with a huge team skill discrepancy and your usual steamroll. The other team was clearly much better even though our was supposed to be the higher ranked one on average.
>>559779972Please stop bullying her...
bing bing wahoo midget who wants revenge
>>559779485DUDE 2 TORNADO LMAO(Ignores how tornado was dumpstered to accommodate this meme)
>>559779973>and spirit shred is overtunedqrd? I've noticed that my assassinate is dealing crazy amounts of damage, I think I've hit for 430 on a target above 50% but I had no idea as to why.
>>559780070>3 actually his entire kit is disengages
>>559779848But I dont want her to be wraith or doorman tier retarded so every meta bitch plays her...
>>559779863The fundamental changes to how the game is played is the worst part of the patch, even if so many are OP it would be manageable if they didn't ruin the main mode.>add MOAR DMG globally>Walkers melt>Midboss scream changed to 50%They literally deleted contesting it from behind, it's such a fucking joke.
>>559769910Someone please mod the carpet to look like dirty mattress.
>>559779863Spamming eggs makes any snowballing even worse.
>>559779863The midboss HP threshold change means that you virtually have no time to react to it now ontop of some of the characters being absurdly busted and snowbally compared to the rest of the roster.
>>559779601This was spectacularly miserable.
Nerf quicksilver and its upgradeStop down playing it, theyre op af
Open beta and full release will cause normal people (n word sayers and troon haters) to play this game en masse you don't want that do you this game should stay invite only
>>559780113true i don't count his 3 since usually they just int with it then fuck off with 1 > 2just incredibly annoying to lane against, even worse in brawl where you cant "just buy" counters
I am so done with being told to counter buy when it just side steps the point that certain characters still fuck you over even with a counter buy. It just sounds like someone coping that their character is is being told it needs nerfed still.
The game's balance reminds me so much of DBD (I know I know) some characters you have to do 3.2 billion things on just to get half of the benefits of a character you can press one button on like not every character needs to be a skillshot but it shouldnt be so black and white if you wanted to win and you had to choose between Holliday and Wraith you would never choose Holliday for example you would at least need to think about the cons and pros of each character but its not so in this game
*kills your game*
>>559779863SINCE THE PATCH? BITCH IT'S BEEN SHIT SINCE THEY STARTED INTRODUCING THESE FUCK ASS NEW HEROES
>>559780294Dude just invest 12800 souls into counterbuys then get raped anyway because their core items negate the entire counterbuy
>items have descriptive and utilitarian names>no flavor text SOULLESS
>>559779601>>559780260had a haze that died 6 times to calico before the laning phase even ended, she also for whatever reason refuse to roam around looking for people to kill for whatever reason. to be honest the only good player in our team was doorman.
>>559780389FUCKING EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT'S THE POINT OF COUNTERBUY WHEN THEIR OWN FUCKING ITEMS COMPLETELY NEGATES YOUR OWN FUCKING COUNTERBUY THAT THEY KEEP FUCKING COPING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>559780413Make it for them. If its good, theyll add it in. Go for vague descriptions like in souls games.
>>559780078I bet she loves scratches even more when you call her a good girl
>>559778516>>559778590Nothing to say?
>>559780458Don't worry about it Victor is bad ok just counter buy
>>559780294Victor players come to mindThe biggest downplayers in the playerbase by far, playing their retarded chimp perma 55%+ winrate mongoloid character>just buy this 6400 soul item that debuffs your damage>also get your whole team to do it as wellThat's the kind of shit those apes say.
Street brawl is fun
getting a wolfdog and naming her Silver
>>559780476With the shop being stylized as a shopping catalogue I'd rather have flavorful product names and sales pitches.
>>559780512I'm convinced that there's so many people in modern gaming communities that do their best to basically destroy their own community just so something they like doesn't get properly fixed.
raping a wolfdog and named Silver
>>559780294>trying to take mina down>use anvil>she just teleports away>use curse>she is already super far away>have to buy them both to fuck her up every time
>>559780542You could be a bit more subtle and call it Lilah instead you know
>>559780594Have you considered..........using them in the reverse order?
>fed wraith>"just counter buy">cast disarming hex on her>she buys dispel magic>I've just wasted souls on a now useless item>can only kill wraith if we have a Mo&Krill or some other hard cc hero on our team
>>559780294i have a scrub observation. Yoshicefrog is in over his head adapting dota skills into a movement shooter
>Celeste on my team is 0/0/0 17 minutes inAnd I thought nothing could surprise me any more.
>teammates insist on running down mid when there are side waves crashing into our base>i have to clean them up even though i don't need the souls>meanwhile teammates are losing a teamfight because they're behind in items and missing the key playerthat took way longer that it should havefucking hell
>Calico: Leaping Slash T2 changed from +40 damage to +300 souls on hero killSeriously what the fuck was Yoshi thinking.
>>559780294It's almost like the game is extremely complex and you're just being given the advice that gives you the best odds at succeeding as opposed to literal flowchart 'follow this advice to win' adviceNow buy some fucking counter items instead of buying left to right, shitter
>>559780632>have to buy them both to fuck her up every time
>>559780730He has no idea what the fuck he's doing and an entire community that won't actually say that to his face
>>559780576Youre asking too much
>>559776547Now, now he may just be a massive cuck
>>559780845>contract killer gets paid per kill
Europeans at this hour are always this upitty like children
>>5597809834 skills per hero and a bunch of active items (multiplied by 12 heroes) is def way too much for a game this fast. So not entirely clueless, i think but he has to tone it down. It can be very good
Is there ever a reason to build healing nova over rescue beam?
>>559780983If you say that in any official capacity then just get banned or blacklisted by some Valve simp janny before Yoshi or any Valve employee actually sees it.Yoshi's best bet of getting honest thoughts is coming here, despite various retarded opinions and thoughts that get posted here, many are at least honest.
>>559780730I wish they focused more on the movement shooter part because it's the best part of the game by far.
>>559781156Both are ass if you have built in healing. Theyre for supports who dont have an ability to heal
>>559780845It's thematic, I guessBut mechanically putting that on a turbo farmer that can cross the map at lightspeeds that are near exclusive to her and is impossible to catch is to ask for trouble.
>>559773779Every shiv I've seen only does damage with knife.He'll have like 60k total damage and 40k of that will be knives and everything else will be around 2-3k
BOY I SURE DO LOVE WHEN CALICO SEVEN WRAITH AND VICTOR ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM AGAINST ME.YEP WINNABLE !:)
I havent seen anyone buying the egg since the patch dropped
>>559781209yea same i expected rocket launcher tech and shit. Even apollo seems cool with his air dashes but they went all into the visual diarrhea debuff shit instead
>>559781429me when infernus+paige in brawllet me touch the ground you fucking demons
>>559781156Nova is flat healing, meaning that it's much better early in the game, especially since it heals you, everyone around you and your entire wave while having a shorter cooldown than rite.I've been building on Vindicta, it's quite good. >>559781156Rescue beam can clutch save people, it's useful even if you have innate healing.
>>559781429Just buy disarm focus lens curse spirit resilience and only ever fight them 3v1 bro, it's fair and balanced.
>>559781432Buy the egg first item is bait.You're supposed to buy a bunch of eggs and eat them for the buffs when your build is complete and you can't waste souls on anything more.
>>559781432I don't really see an opportunity to buy it because there's too many lane bullies right now
Just buy a counter item and win?
>>559781527Y-you responded to me twice.
>>559781649Holy shit does this work? Genuinely high iq
>>559781695Oh, my mistake, meant for >>559781320
I have 100% winrate on Graves and literally all I do is sit in a side lane the entire game
>>559780512>just buy this 6400 soul item that debuffs your damageThen just get inhibitor?Even gives you more damage little chud, not my problem you don't know basic counter items.
>>559779601I cant comment on the new patch but Holidays are either worthless feeders that shit talk like its a cod lobby or untouchable bouncepad gods who contribute nothing in the late game when their now very easy to lock down and kill.
>CHUD
Ivybros we are flying under the radar... good.P.S: banning viscoos every game
>>559781783Perma split pushing is severely underrated and a very viable stat to solo climb, I climbed to Master when it was the 2nd highest rank in LoL by just being a perma splitpushing Tryndamere.If you're awake manage to run away and not feed, you'll be a legitimate threat, double points if you kill whatever lane janny they send to deal with you.
nuking is countered far more easily than spamoh your 8000 damage spirit nuke? sorry actually I ignore 80% of thaterm I ignore 80% of your 10 damage bullet AIIIE NO STOP SHOOTING ME 10000000000000 TIMES AND BUILDING TOXIC AND SIPHON AIIIIIIIEEE
>>559780542Getting a lava lamp and calling it paradox
>buys metal skin
>Counter item (VS weapon build)3200 souls turns off their whole build no counterplay on their end>Counter item (VS spirit/"hybrid" build)12800 souls gets mogged by their core items
>>559782267Yeah. What do you want me to say to that? 5+5 is indeed 10.
I distinctly remember you guys saying the gun meta before the january update was the worst thing that ever happened to the game...>inb4 "nuh uh it wasn't me"
Calico is really fun to play now :)
>>559782338anon........ you can't have sex with a lava lamp.......................
>>559782267Good thing there's no spirit heroes that deal an absurd amount of damage in a way that's not mitigated by Spellbreaker while perfectly enabling one of the most overtuned items ever...
They should make Calico 2 count as a heavy melee for crushing fists and what not.
>>559782727Yeah and make it instakill anyone under 25% HP too while we're at it.
>>559782852they SHOULD give her shiv ult but they won't because they're pussies
>>559782586I actually like this current patch.
They should make exploding uppercut stun the target till they land on the ground
>>559782638your picture of infernus looking weird
Everyone's talking how they gutted Silver, but holy shit what did they do to Mirage?
>want to watch a normal streamer that plays my characters>no one fucking streams Silver or HollidayI suffer, everyone ditched Silver except some turk which I refuse to watch and literally no one normal streams Holliday.
>>559783021Infernus is nowhere near as bad as Victor and every metric says so, seems like you just want to keep a brother down.
>>559783108>taking silvertroons seriously
>>559783202Indeed Silver was nerfed pretty hard, the stats speak for themselves
>>559783108they completely fucked tornado durationits so laughably bad now
>>559779601>no monster rounds+healing shot for laneAt least she isn't building gun carry...
>>559783339>nerfed from pubstomper to balanced>guttedKEK silver players are really the persecution complex trannies
>>559783492Brother you climb up a rope and invalidate her entire kit how is she a pubstomper.
>wraith throws 1 card for 500 guarantee aoe dmg>infernus spends 3 seconds shooting to get 500 dmg over 8 seconds of dot>ER MA GERHD THIS IS THE MOST INSANE THING EVER NERF IMMEDIATELY THIS IS UNBELEIVABLEwhat is it about dots that make people into spontaneous retards? Would you rather get burst for 1k dmg in 0.01 seconds or 1k dmg over 8 seconds?
Sad to see such a persistent case of Silver Derangement Syndrome
>>559777248DEI characters
>>559783567Y-YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND... SHE'S THE NEW SHIV!!!
>>559783546trannies obsessed with ropes LMAOOOOO
>>559783549>wew I'm out>*dies*That's why, infernus is still anoying.>Build dbrI do everygame with him.
>>559777248Because trannies are men and men play vidya. Did you expect trannies to play games for women?
this silver fag thats been on /v/ and this general needs to be dicked down desu hes asking for it
>>559783492Her winrate was basically 50%She WAS balanced, retardnigger
I play paradox. Reading the two sets of patches I really don't understand what they were doing. They nerf her to oblivion then hotfix her with buffs that make her stronger than before the nerfs. What the fuck?
>>559783651Except you didnt get out. You took lethal dot dmg before you got "out" after he put 80 bullets into you. If it were any other character you would have just been dead on the floor before you "got out"
>>559783727This entire patch has been them to throwing random shit at the wall I wouldn't take it too seriously.
>barely anyone takes sinners and my main source of early game income is just cleaning up the blue lane sinners after I come from sidelanewhy is it so rare for people (even in high ranks) to contest sinners? They're so fucking good and also the only jungle worth doing when in late game because they scale you directly.
>>559783693>this silver fagYou're gonna have to be more specificWe've got silver downplayers, silver upplayers, silver whiners, silver waifufags, and at least one silver writefag
The new tooltip on djinns mark makes literally 0 sense, the skill still functions the exact same as it did before (1/2/4/8/12x multiplier) which is not what new tooltip suggests (2/4/6/8/10x)
>>559782586That was the worst thing ever, now this is the new worst thing ever.Turbo buffing spirit nukers was not the move. Besides, there is no equivalent to spirit like there is for metal skin. When the bullet carry is fed you build metal skin/disarming hex.When the spirit carry is fed, you spam curse and silences, you still gonna die though.
>>559783727I don't know if Mina is good or bad now since so many other characters are just so much more op.
>>559783693https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKie-vgUGdI
>>559783860Watching Eido try to play her for a game and she genuinely looked like ass relative to all the boosted characters. I think she's an ult-bot now. Probably still a menace in lane, but afterwards, nah.
>>559783790Huge influx of new players, they use to disapear in alchemist before all the newfags. Now I can reliably get them all in Oracle.
>>559783993Eido is also shit. Going to see if the Ruzzoids play her (I doubt it). Honestly they should just revert most of the changes but keep some nerfs to her rake heal and LB proc with a few buffs to her scaling. LB nerf made her feel a lot less opressive in lane but I have no idea how you play her soloQ now without the OP heal, might just be everyone else being overtuned that she feels weak.
>>559783790pve in a movement shooter is boring and only cucks do it
Silver was nerfed because Yoshi saw how much fanart she gets and couldn't stand it. He wants more Mo and Krill fanart!
>>559784269>he never played Titanfall 2 campaign
Getting hit by a single Drifter Stalker's Mark and taking 1700 damage. I guess I should have bought dispell magic now that I think about it. Forget that item exists ever since they made the changes to it/debuff remover.
>>559784387>he runs around punching immovable objects for 10s in titanfall 2HAHAHAHAHA
>>559783842Counterspell
>>559784387>falling for shootard bait
>>559784272>Silver fanart>The near majority of it is yurishitAll of these niggers saying she's a dike just for a innocuous voice line with Mina, while at the same time disregarding her interaction with Venator as nothing of substance, need to get dragged across the entire length of the sinai desert face-first.
>>559783727>They nerf her to oblivion then hotfix her with buffs that make her stronger than before the nerfs.Debatable.Stripping the wall from any damage and giving a part of it to T3 ult sucks dick. That's a massive chunk of early burst damage and area denial just gone. The 80% lifesteal is a bummer, the barrier is dogshit in comparison. The cooldown on swap is awful too before you get to T2. I liked her more before the patch.There's some very nice stuff there too though like the silence now being on T2, that's for sure.The patch in general is a complete mess and it's clear they have zero idea what they're doing, it's just throwing shit at the wall.
>>559777532>twitterthere you go
i wrote a feedback thread for vindicta saying she should be more snipe focused and maybe get some of her souls on kill back/other stuff to make her more fun..they will not do it but i kind of wish they would..
when are they adding this so spirit fags can kys
Seems like this patch is about deciding one person is the main character every game
>>559784876But getting raped by spirit damage is fun
>>559784876returnfire?
>>559784682Shippers are severely mentally ill and delusional, they're retarded trannies most of the time too.
>silver dealt basically 0 spirit damage Oh so that's why they nerfed her
>>559782605What's the worst that could happen
>>559784682everyone in 1950s new york is gay and lesbian anon :)
>>559785060The issue is that she deals shit gun damage too.Her gun scaling is meh at best.
>>559784994i thought it was just bullets kek anyway tune that spirit return up to 100%
>>559785119The lava comes out of the lamp and goes onto you, I'd presume
>>559783790>>my main source of early game income isn't wavesyou guys will say anything to seem knowledgeable when actually you are purposefully being the stupid one
>>559785240when i was new to the game and saw a mo & krill with 15k more souls than anyone else i asked him in chat how he got so rich and he just said he literally never left his lane lol
It took me 2k hours. Now I can finally play Geist. Today I had 0 deaths like in 5 games. And even when I fed I still dealt more damage and killed more enemies than a retard on Seven with 20k souls more
balanced item!
>>559785425I swear it's the same guy seething about Torment Pulse for the last few days because he got this weird obsession out of the blue.Pretty much no one here was talking about it before,
>>559785425Oh my god... is that... two people buying an item that makes sense with their character and playstyle ? Oh my god we NEED TO DO SOMETHINGTorment Pulse isn't even a core item on Abrams you can skip itAre you gonna shit your pants at Majestic Leap on Pocket and Lash too?
>>559785425Correct.Surely you're not complaining about torment pulse, anon?
Silver's WR is still 50%
So why is there no glyph in this game? Pushing in this game is easier than your average moba cause you can ping towers from a billion miles away or from a weird angle, and there is literally nothing defenders can do.
Why is no one crying in dota about Radiance but everyone in deadlock is crying about Torment Pulse?
>>559785681Winrates do not matterGo back to league and see how balancing everything around 50% winrates turned out.
>>559785723Because in deadlock you have to aim and move around like a crackhead so an item that just does free damage for existing is way more appealing and stronger especially below a certain level of play
Movements is the most important thing btw. So always invest in stamina and speed. If you can catch anyone or can't escape - you're doomed.
>>559785723>everyoneIt's literally 1 guy.
>>559785785Agreed she should be nerfed more because her WR is still above 50% in the highest rank
When I used the public build I would never buy torment pulse because it sucks dick
>>559785681silvertroons hate trvkes bro..
>>559785681We don't use facts here chvd.We only argue based on anecdotes and on her competitive stats that are skewed by lordNM padding her losses
>>559785681In all elos its 47% and in eternus she can't even manage 50%
>>559773402???Everything people still picked Mirage for in NS is still there, if not better in a few cases. Esp with djinn's mark's tier buffs.>Insane late game team nuking>can farm/objective at one side of the map and then immediately be at a team fight
What hero is more likely to participate in sex gangbangs as a female? I think it must be Graves. She's a problem child, a teenager who does whatever she wants, I bet her parents are not happy she's running around New Your with a dead hand, she does this as an act of rebellion against her parents so she's more likely to suck 50 dicks on camera for 200 souls
>>559785681Prove it, show the parameters you use too so I can pick apart your cherrypicked statistics
>>559786248Mcginnis
>>559786373Why would she do that? She's a hard worker and probably lesbian.
*uses antinigger beam to wipe out all silver players*
>>559786283Nvm it's no longer above 50%. It was yesterday, now it's >>559786136
>>559786426exactly
>>559786283>silverfags suddenly caring about stats when all they/them do is post some silvertrash oc while crying about muh GUTTED KEK
>silver has a 50% wr>WINRATES ARE STATISTICS AND THEY MATTER THIS MEANS SILVER IS BALANCED>victor has an almost 70% wr across all ranks and even in eternus>NOOOOOOOOOOOO WINRATES DON'T FUCKING MATTER SHUT THE FUCK UP REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>559786481too high, silversissies need to get the shiv treatment.
I think Calico should get a buff
>>559786136>it actually is fallingUh-oh, >>559785958 and >>559786129 ain't gonna like this one...It's OK though cause I don't like it either, so we're all suffering together. Save her Yoshi, please
I have a feeling that midwits unironically fell for the "SILVER SO OP" posting during nightshift.
>>559786568Winrates don't matter and Victor/Silver are both shitI'm glad we cleared this up, maybe you would enjoy league my friend it seems more up your alley.
>>559786568Meawhile, Shiv is dead and you're laughing.>muh very specific use in comp or muh OTPs that go 15/0Nobody gives a shit, if a character has no place in pubs he needs a rework SIMPLE AS
>>559786248Really only Billy.
>>559786681They genuinely, unironically didSilver's winrate was hovering around 50% before the patch, even at her "strongest" and her winrate was well within the margin of "I was carried in this match"
>>559786663>balanced at 50% = guttedKEK crying even before it fell below 50%>>559700032>>559699339get good
Silvertards are so stupid they fell for the silverbad posting during nightshift when they saw the team thats been losing to abrahams for 12 weeks in a row lose to them again but this time with silver.
>>559786725>if a character has no place in pubs he needs a rework SIMPLE ASTRVCLEAR STRIKENo character should EVER only be viable in coordinated groups, I don't give a shit if Dota2 has characters like that, they're a waste of a character slot, like Chen. Plus this isn't dota2.Characters should all be usable with random teammates.
>>559786871the fact that eternus wr is above normals shows skill issue but they/them will never get good
>>559786681>So strong she made Abrahams lose their 10+ eu winstreak after first picking herMASAKA...HER POTENTIAL...
WE NEED TO STOP THE CADAVERMAN
>>559786939Its boggling to me that chen remained the way he is for as long as he did, absolute dogshit character.
forced lose ahh team compsWe actually won but I was completely useless, I hate this patch so much
I swear to god if someone only knew Deadlock based on the way you people post they'd think this game was just Silver and a bunch of irrelevant nobodies.
>>559787162Silver's.Game.
This mf straight out of Twin Peaks
>>559784682Stay malding
>>559787162Silver is the main character, even the pros know that hence why they first pick her and go 0/10.
>>559787026Sure just let me gimp my damage by -10% for the cheap price of 6.4k souls.
>>559787148>forced to lose>we actually won
>>559787162>>559787186>>559787270>ctrl+f victor, 8 matches>ctrl+f ivy, 3 matches>ctrl+f wraith, 11 matches>ctrl+f seven, 4 matches>ctrl+f infernus, 5 matches>ctrl+f silver>45 matchesWhen you think about it, it's actually fucking hilariousDeadlock general? More like Silver general
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>Muh third party win rates!!!I literally do not trust these. The only thing I trust is that regardless of rank, people do not play counter items.>So you're saying Eternus players are shit at itemization.Unironically yes. Everyone still fucking sucks at this game. Eido who is considered the best person in the entire game went fucking 0-18 with venator in the first game he played when he dropped. We are not at LoL/Dota/CS levels of play right now yet and it shows.You can tell people suck when even midwit players like you and me point out genuinely bad decisions eternus players do.
>>559787449Seinfeld voicing a character would be ludo
>>559787186>>559787270Explain why she lost to Rem and Graves.
i hope they make vindicta have bonus souls again
Characters for this feel?
>>559787425Silver was always the most popular of the new heroes and is the straight white man's hero of choice.It's just that womemes, ecelebs, troons and especially furries got together and dumped all their votes into Rem and then Graves.Meanwhile, where's the Rem and Graves discussion? Silver is the most discussed and popular of the new 6 by far.
If mcginnis turrent are killing a wave while you're away do you lose the farm or does it work like rem helpers?
>>559787564nuMina
when can i start participating in fights as an m1 carry
last patch was bad but this one is soooooo terrible, there wasn't really a completely busted OP char but now there are like 5 in every single match
>Haze salting in chat because he is forced to "solo defend" in street brawlLOOOOOLLLLL
>>559787636GET BACK IN THE SIDELANE AND FARM SLAVE
kevin gods I'm so farking happy gapping people assholes
>>559787425>>559787186Even after the nerfs, she's still the queen of /dlg/
>>559787683Would you believe that there are "people" here who claimed that Silver was overpowered before?
>>559786748The funny thing about her winrate before the nerfs is that, her niche role allowed her to take every cc and attention from the enemy due to how loud the predditors and "pro"s cried about her being op. This just allowed her to create for a little while, the niche role of being the punching bag that opens space for the actually op heroes to carry. There you go, her winrate explained.
>>559787425No shit, Silverfags cry 24/7.
>>559787886don't group me together with you annoying faggotssilver was really good but not op like current doorman
>>559787886Yeah, I mean I get where they are coming from her 1 does fucktons of damage burst but shes just not a good character period once you respect her early and learn to back the fuck off and kite when she tower dove in wolf.
>>559788004Human Silver is still strongWolf Silver sucksThe problem is that you're forced to become Wolf Silver even when you don't want to.Before -> "I'm becoming wolf silver, awesome!"Now -> "I'm becoming wolf silver, yikes!"
>>559786871>Silver isn't bad, just a bad teamEven the few times Melee Creeps and Abes picked Silver, the Silver's performance was mediocre as fuck and wolf form didn't really do anything or Silver was still killed right as curse filled.I think curse just needs a overhaul.>>559787508I'm a silverfag and I voted for Rem as much as I did Silver because I thought Rem was going to be a cute child character (and I was right), Rem had a huge fur fag backing, same with graves and goth girl backing. Silver also had probably the most amount of tourists before she released saying to vote her in that fucked off after she got in as tourists do.It's funny how Rem and Graves both had their huge backings immediately fuck off after it turned out they were both a child and highschooler but silver fags practically got what they wanted.>>559787581Rem is brought up pretty damn often in memes.Graves has a ton of footfags I guess.
>>559785723Radiance is a lot harder to farm for in dota.
>HERUP ME DERIVAH DEEZU THINGU!really valve?
>>559788004>from her 1 does fucktons of damage It literally does not, stop regurgitating lies. Go check any silver's end game chart, slam fire damage always hovers around 3-6k max.
>>559785723Radiance would be a 6.4k item in deadlock, but it's literally one guy yeah I never had a problem with it.
>>559787595No farm for you
oh human silver's bout to suck something alright hooheehee
>>559788189Forgot to type "early" also their low damage is because she needs to be in a very specific range and it's decently hard to hit. It wasn't that high on release but when it got buffed it did fuck off damage early.
>>559787564The only worth Holliday has
any silver fanart that makes her too blonde pisses me off
>>559788285she's a lesbian though
>>559787581>Butch lesbian>Heterosexual white man's choiceMeanwhile, Graves is actually straight, feminine, and not past her prime.
Am I wrong in thinking this game's balance sucks because almost no one calls the devs out? On the discord they dont every platform to call out the devs is just spamming lesbian fanart this is the most bizarre fucking fanbase ever even DBD players call the devs stupid instead of spamming gay stuff everywhere
There are more people crying about torment pulse haters than actual torment pulse haters
>>559788421?nipples/clit/ears/lips/fingers and more things im not destitute enough to conceive of.
wraith sucks this shit takes forever to get online just like old wraith, its just noobs overreacting as usual
>>559788421>Silver is lesbian!Lesbians don't exist, just women who hate men.
ivy chudzu is the gayest shit everfuck off
>>559788518yes. Game feels like constantly rotating newfags since the oldfags left. I haven't seen my eternus friend play the gamemode in forever.
>>559788518issa alpha and free game
>>559788116>I think curse just needs a overhaul.I think it depends on what you mean by overhaulThey'd better not get rid of the identity of it being a curse she can't controlI still think they just need to go back to making human silver weaker (especially slam fire), and werewolf stronger. Make bloodlust easier to generate, but fill up over time like PoE leech. These two things would make her a strong ganker and bruiser who comes in from the side, but horribly weak to ganks herself. I think that's kind of the role she filled at first and they ought to bring her back to it
>>559788624>the normal gamemode in forever.He doesn't even brool anymore.
>>559778516>>559780498Not much can be said if we can't watch the replay, who was in lane against her, how they managed to feed, if doornigger ever ulted her or if No & Skill ever ulted her, did you or your team just stand still everytime you heard the awoo and tried to 1v1 manfight the manfighting hero? Plenty that could go wrong in your shitlow rank since mm is just a mess.
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>>559777248playing deadlock requires you to be terminally online and be willing to spend an obscene amount of time to get decent at the game compared with other games, alongside needing to have the autism mobas require. AND this one actually has the epic tumblr character designs so of course they're gonna swarm like flies. why do you think ultrakill also has so many trannies?
>>559784682Its just trannies and cucks anon. Juat call them fags and move on.
>Yamato can have 60% Spirit and Ballistic resist, be immune to all debuffs, increase casting speed and gain a huge move speed buff on ultimate that can be further extended on kills>But viscous can't have shit (nerfed to 15% resist each)>Warden can't have shit (nerfed to 60% resists only on channeling)>And silver can't have anything (nerfed from a 15% resists to nothing, slower movement)
>>559788104It's a free get away from jail card. Shoot shit up, maybe kill someone, wolf and run away back to safety.
>>559788724>>>559778516>>>559780494 Replied to wrong post.Adding to this, I just noticed she didn't even buy dispel, were you even using your items on her when it mattered or did you immediately slap disarm on her when she far from someone and unable to even attack.
>>559788518If you do, you get muted or banned.The discord is completely useless and I doubt the validity of the feedback on the forums.Toxic positivity is a widespread problem because of overt censorship of legitimate feedback being the norm for about a decade now, now a lot of "gamers" are subdued casual cattle who don't dare say anything negative.I have plenty to say but I wouldn't say it on the discord or forum because I'd just get silenced immediately, even if what I want to say is rather mild.And I say this as someone who hasn't been muted or banned ever.
>doing decent in my lane, got a few kills and no deaths>destroy tower>see how the rest of the team are doing>they all have 0 kills and 5 deaths each
This game kinda made me want to play dota 2 againThe last time I played was like 2 years ago, should i?
>>559788836I agree that this is the best way to currently play her but it feels like shit to use your ult that way.Imagine if Bruce Banner were stronger than the Hulk and the only reason why he transformed into the Hulk was to leap away instead of beating the shit out of peopleThat's what this feels like
>>559788976Yeah why not? It's more balanced and isn't hard unless you're account is immortal and you'd need to catchup on meta.
>>559788189Why the fuck would her 1 show up on damage graphs when it's a firerate buff first and for most.Her 1 does a fuck load of damage because it's her throwing out three shot shotgun shots point blank in the span of a second.When people say her 1 does a fuck load of damage they're probably not talking about the damage on the ability.
>>559788935>I have plenty to say but I wouldn't say it on the discord or forum because I'd just get silenced immediately, even if what I want to say is rather mild.they're not going to ban you for giving harsh feedback, its the entire point of the forums.there's people having schizo meltdowns in the bad matchmaking thread and their posts are still up.
>>559788976I quit after 7.0 and felt the itch to try it again a couple years ago.Shit was unrecognizable and I bounced off after a couple dozen matches.
>>559788976why? its slow af waiting for roshan, infinite glyphs, bkb/buyback timers
>>559788821>>But viscous can't have shit (nerfed to 15% resist each)As long as viscous gets puddle punch build, he unironically deserves fucking nothing.
kelvin is seriously so handsome...
>>559788989>appeal to capeshitYou need to be 18 to post here
>>559780512I don't think anyone that actually plays victor can deny that his kit is inherently broken no matter how fun it might be for the user to play. I genuinely don't know how you can balance it in a game like this without making him either permabroken or z tier. The idea of having to kite him is neat and would work in any other game but you can stack slows and mobility and area upgrades with items so this strategy doesn't work. You can't debuff him because of his 2 but if you change how his 2 works at all the entire fucking character will completely fall apart. You can buy curse except now you're investing 6400 souls into an item that fucks you out of 13% of your total damage to counter ONE (1) guy for 4 seconds... and he just gets to revive afterwards.I play Vic, I find him really fun to use, I like being a menace ultra lategame carry, but I simply don't understand what they were thinking with his kit. The only way to make him work would be via draft and new characters that just completely disable him kitwise but in a game like this that'd feel like the worst fucking way to do it. It's literally overwatch tier strats when the items were supposed to stop this from happening in the first place.The worst part is that the retards that just gobble anything Valve does will praise it as the next coming of Christ if they pull something like it, too.
>>559789050>5k gun damage>4k slamfireHmm, yes. Truly broken op.I don't think a hero's very good when her highest and most reliable damage source is fucking express shot.
>>559789326Bro comics haven't been good for decades, if anything he's 30+.
>>559789326Sped
>>559789326nigga I'm using the most easy to use parallel to her design fantasy
>>559781432Does ANYONE actually enjoy these economy number items? Even buying defense green items feels less mundane than this shit
>>559786248Paige. You see her skimping half the male cast and reads smut.
I'm going create a majestic leap bomb paradox build after work and then permanently split push, thoughts on this?
>>559784269doom eternal is literally the best game of the genre you SWINE
>>559789483Be yourself, man.
ANSWER QUICK does dispel magic remove anvil from you? cba to bother with counterspell
>>559789326I hate how MCU and it's consequences has lead to 4chan's opinions on the most popular superheroes to be basically more dismissive then the most dude bro jock of the 80s/90s. Everyone knows who the fucking hulk is dude.>You need to be 18 to post here.People dismissing capeshit ARE the underages. The youngest millennial is 30 dude.
>>559789654Yes.
>>559789654yes
>>559789654Yes
>>559789693>>559789704>>559789720thanks
>>559789686>I hate how MCU and it's consequences has lead to 4chan's opinions on the most popular superheroes to be basically more dismissive then the most dude bro jock of the 80s/90s. Everyone knows who the fucking hulk is dude.
>>559778207graves just doesnt belong to the game. Not a single aspect of her gameplay requires skill or whatsoever.
>>559785425>it does like 80 dmg per pulse>OMG GUIZ ITS SO UNBALANCEDYou're a retard. I barely ever buy it. It's not that good except on M&K or Calico. I rarely buy it on Abrams.
>>559789814not beating the underage allegations, sis
wraith looks like shes wearing diaperspuddy ass
>>559789370I'm nta you're arguing with. I'm just saying that she's the closest we're getting to a gun burst damage character because her 1 and express shot does melt anyone who is unfortunate enough to not pop metal skin during late game if they're right next to the silver.Silver still fucking sucks though, yes.She had ONE thing which was if you won lane you could dive tower with werewolf.
>>559789845She 100% belongs to the game because she's a macro character in a MOBA. Real winners just build for her ultimate and push all lanes while their team brools.
>>559789892marvel rivals is that way, zhang
>>559787564Haze, Billy straight up has a voiceline highlighting this.
>>559783790Idk but it makes me happy. More for me. I love sinners. I love the gambling. The buffs taste so fucking good. Occasionally I'll get 3/4 of the same buff. It rocks.
>>559789814>Getting mad at old white nerd shit on a website made by a bunch of old white nerds.
One of wraith's cards should be bad for her if they really wanna make it gambling
>>559789986>tfw hate MCU but like rivals cause its unironically fun and a well made gamealso they chose the good 80s/90s designs for the chars which anyone can appreciate as being classic western culture during the golden age of this civ
>>559789960They nerfed it.
>>559790103A black kween always wins
>>559790185technically i like the char model even though shes blackthe cape flowing etc is rly cool, but it just needs to be brought up to speedtons of clipping and unfinished textures
>>559789686the vast mayority of capeshit is garbage made to bait people into buying week to week releases, come on nowthey don't even have the appeal of manga of having one single artist telling their story or having new characters
>>559790103There's no mana in this game so you can't have one of the cards not do anything.
>play no & skill>just buy duration and cooldown reduction>ult the same person over and over again>win
>>559790297>garbage made to bait people into buying week to week releasesno one show this guy the top manga selling charts lol
>>559790347Another day another dollar for our heroes.
>>559789845>not a single aspect of her gameplay requires skillRight; except for positioning, engagement timing, split pushing, defense, counter pushing, area denial, teamfight peeling, and all those other MACRO gameplay requirements that she's literally designed for...
>>559790347I got fanmail from a Haze I kept ulting.
>bro just buy-FFFFFFUCK YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!!
>>559790146>shield/heal pokeslop>unironically fun and a well made gameLMAO as expected of tasteless capeshitfags
>>559782586It wasnt as bad as launch day Vyper, but it also wasn't great.I agree with >>559783842, buffing spirit wasn't the move. I wonder if the devs even play the game sometimes. Balance patches like this recent one indicate that they don't. They're pretty clearly tweaking things based on stats alone which is myopic.
>>559790476Anon please you have 3k in lane you don't need to save for ricochet.
make curse a 3ksilence wave and disarm are now 1.6k
>convince friend to stop playing LoL and switch over to Deadlock>"hey anon this drifter guy looks pretty cool">remember he mained jungle>idea>"yeah he's kind a jungler too I think you're going to like him">successfully convince him he needs to roam around the map taking camps instead of laning>4 other guys on team get turbo pissed at him just fucking around>"no it's okay they're mad you're not clearing fast enough just ignore them">friend goes nuclear when he sees our seven taking "his" camp>we lose>he still wants to keep playing because LoL is so miserable he didn't mind the experience at all
>>559786725>Meawhile, Shiv is dead and you're laughing.Yes, I am laughing and enjoying Shigger tears. I won't be truly happy until he is deleted from the game entirely, however.
>>559790449It never fails :) They're so vocal
>>559777248Trannies love Valve games, and specifically DotA 2. In /lgbt/, DotA 2 was almost a full step in the pink pilling process.
>>559790634fuck it every character starts with these since the entire game is filled with cancer anyway
>>559790725most to least trannies TF2 > deadlock > dota > CSso not by a lot
>>559788907She fell off in the mid game, but mostly used Disarming Hex and Infernus and Haze, which let me escape Haze once and kill Infernus once.
Isn't ivy crazy now? The cd on flight is so low it's practically perma active and stone form became one of the strongest stuns and nukes in the game
>>559788949Winning lane can be matchup dependent.Pivoting to another lane to gank while keeping your tower is skill
>>559787564bebop
>>559790725tencent chink found the thread
>>559790347Would you say that mo & krill is a good character to master if you want to climb fast?
>>559778018why's perfect cell there?
>>559790297>the vast mayority of capeshit is garbage made to bait people into buying week to week releasesI'm a bigger weeb than I ever was a comic fag and I think comics are worse than anime/manga, it's why comics are dying and manga is thriving.But holy shit this applies to Manga too.Also regardless it's moot in the original point. People know what the hulk is, people know who superman is, people know spiderman. The most contrarian dickhead you know knows who these characters are and what their deal is. Making a connection from *THING* to *THING PEOPLE GENERALLY KNOW* is just basic fucking discussion.
>>559790660Diabolical.
>>559790725>in /lgbt/>in /lgbt/>in /lgbt/go back, tranny
>tfw counterspelled Geist ultDamn I never thought I would ever pull that off but I did somehow. r u proud of me /dlg/?
>>559790985i literally just started playing them because one street brawl was fun, its not a strong carry but i think this build has a very low skill ceiling while still having an impact in the game, not sure if there is much to master
>Make human form weaker, primarily by nerfing slam fire damage a bit>Make werewolf stronger – possibly return the baseline 15% resists, and swap her t1 and t2 upgrade so she gets speed first and has to invest more for the nice 30% resist she used to get. This would keep her from being too oppressive when she gets ult in lane, while actually letting her get some defences to survive protracted mid-range brawls later on without having to abort and leap out as soon as someone looks at her (and still leave the option of heavily countering her EHP gain by employing shred)>Make bloodlust generation slightly easier to compensate for slam fire nerf (maybe 10%-ish less needed?), BUT put a cap on how much it can fill up per second, like PoE leech. Like maybe 50% per second or something. i.e. if you did a perfect slam fire which would give you 80% of your bloodlust meter, you’ll still get that 80%, but it will be given to you over 1.6 seconds. This would make it so she’s stronger when she takes the initiative, but a bit weaker when ganked. Still keep the emergency instant ~30% bloodlust you get when you fall to critical health though I think>Lower wolf form cooldown back to maybe 40-ish seconds – long enough to be punishing if you accidentally pop it or fail to achieve anything with it, but short enough that the main ‘power mode’ of the character won’t be too far out of reach for longReally, if it gets any longer people will just think binary “go gank when I’ve got ult, hide when I don’t”.>Make it so t5 upgrade only restores 50% of wolf form duration instead of 100% Should let her chain kills+heals in a fight, but not chain chases if a shitter diesNet result should be a character that’s weak if she's caught out, but strong on ambushes and cleverly entering a fight and still has strong counter options available even if she’s balling out of control (cc, shred, mobility).What do you think deadtards?
>>559790660That's evil, anon.Make him jungle as Kelvin next he'll probably fall for it considering he didn't even read the abilities himself.
>>559791119You can know things about other places without being a part of them. In this case, I knew a trans chaser who was active in the board.
>seasoned bounty hunter>also 8 feet tall werewolf>99% of fan art is her being beaten and/or rapedWhy is silver such a jobber?
>>559790798TF2 always had a massive contrast in playerbase.There were always shitposts about a swastika spray being next to gay furry porn next to loli porn.
silver is balanced, cope tranny
>>559791331I've seen lots of nice cool art of her. I think you might just looking in the wrong places
>Every game right is now decided by who has Calico/Ivy/Wraith on their teamI'm getting tired bossima a newfag from the first 6 hero patch but this is the worst the game has ever felt even with the meme trophy collector brool shit.
>>559788518A lot of people complaining about balance are genuinely suffering from skill issue.While the upper echelon avoid complaining because of the same reason.Only the top 1% have the ear of devs but you don't see them in a public discord voicing their thoughts and within this are mafia style cliques enforcing certain trends.This dynamic works out in pretty much all competitive games afaik.
>>559791331Girls like that are simply built for instant loss, humiliation and fat ugly bastards. Also Silver would get off to being bent over and getting her collar tugged.
>>559791525I can count on one hand the number of Silver and Venator fan art
>>559791335and 90% of the swastika sprayers were trannies too
>>559791578>only the top 1% have the ear of the devsNope. It's actually the super secrit playtesters that get to tell the devs whats what.That being said, expect Mo n Krill + Viscous nerfs soon.
>>559776336>A character that's entire kit is based around her ultThis character will literally never be balanced and Yoshi should just delete her from the game.
>>559791578That pic is 100% ai because of that helmet
I'm inching closer and closer to Oracle, gonna start throwing games by picking Shiv and Paradox, sorry (not sorry) if you get me on your team in Archon.
is it possible to get into the secret playtest anymore?
>>559790725I've read shit like this of almost any game now. Troonie groonies just make shit up.
>>559791525not this one though, right?
>>559791694I was just posting it as an example because it's nice
>>559791747>all the racists and nazis were actually trannies bro.>everything is trannies bro>trannies are actually huge part of the playerbase, reddit told me soSure buddy.
>>559791830You just have to write "NIGGER" on your forehead with a permanent marker and send a picture of your face to GabeNewell@valve.com
>>559791832It was part of the grooming process. You get invited to "the discord" to "play dota 2." But playing it is just a small aspect, and they spam pink pill shit at you. In general, it's guys who don't have confidence or haven't been with a girl anyway, so they start to convince themselves that maybe it would be better to be a girl. Happens more than you think.
>>559791830You gotta send yoshi a timestamped dickpic and your credit card details
>>559791830Quickest way is to befriend the tr*nny admins, they are usually part of that circle.
>>559791905yeah, straight men sprayed shit like memes, gachimuchi, american flags, shitposts, goku or certain chud approved anime girlsextremism is autistic and autistic men which trannies are tend to gravitate towards it, hence so many twinkwaffen etc types on twitter today thing is deadlock has more of the bluesky/tumblr/reddit/ex twitter crowd which are super sensitive about le n word, tf2 was filled w trannies but they were 4chan trannies, these are way more annoying
This is the only one you can trust
>>559792007You seem to know a lot about this, tranny.
Is this shitty game fixed or do i still need to pick the meta patch heroes?
Why do I deal so little damage? There are times I am shooting a dude for like 10 full seconds and I am dealing half the damage they do with a single button press? I genuinely don't get it. I played a game as Venator and was dealing like 12 damage per bullet while doorman was hitting me for no joke 400 per bell. Like wtf am I supposed to do about that? I buy as many good items as I can, either following a guide or choosing my own, but I ALWAYS end up dealing 10x less damage. I really don't get it.
>>559791694Well then spend time on less faggy websites
>>559791331Nerfed too hard
>>559792212Go to your game history, look at the post game leaderboard and copy the items he used on you
I can't find any pictures online but does anybody remember the airships that were found / datamined a while ago or did I just hallucinate this memory
>>559792212>Why do I deal so little damage? There are times I am shooting a dude for like 10 full seconds and I am dealing half the damage they do with a single button press? I genuinely don't get it.You bought counter items.
How do I play Yamato? Her abilities suggest her playstyle is chasing people but I always end up surrounded by 3 guys deep into enemy territory.
>>559792212spirit is stronger than bullets for 80% of the match, but becomes useless late as people stack resistances, buy spirit resist, best 3200 item in the game when u have full slots and 2-3 tier 4 items theres no way u don't melt people as venator m1, simply hold m1 on their upper torso area and observe
>>559792212Different characters spike in power at different times. That, plus doorman is just a faggot hero right nowMost m1ggers like Venator get progressively stronger and more difficult to deal with the longer the game goes on and the more items they stack up
>>559792257Which are?
>>559792212>he's shooting guns in a spirit shred meta
>>559792212>>559792310also you may be shooting at people from too far away, remember there's fallofffor most m1 carries u wanna be relatively low range as u pepper them with bullets for max damage
>use my mic for the first time to call out 4 on blue>They dont push>No one else says anything>Don't use it for the rest of the match because we were clearly losing otherwise I might have flamed them>Second match>Lane partner says something 10 minutes into the match in a disgusting tone>Instinctively mute then unmute>Don't use my mic for the rest of the gameI don't like this
>>559792308Anti carry tank, you exist to annoy the existing shit of the carry while your team mops up the rest of the enemy team.If you team jobs then you are useless and will get melted
>https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVo2YZOEoJl/?igsh=MTMxeHNkemZ3dXI2Nw==
>>559792542post your voice
>>559792542Every time without fail when one of you autists are scared to talk in games it's because you're the most judgy cunts of all time and think everyone else cares about what you sound like as much as you do.Newsflash asshole no one cares.Nice image macro.
>>559792805>>559792762
>>559792212You fell for the counter-item meme instead of buying kino like Glass Cannon and Lucky Shot
>pretend to look for a job for 2 months in front of my senpaiits too much... I can't keep doing it... I have to actually start sending CVs now...I can already feel my deadlock skill slipping
>>559790812Then she followed the niche role I talked about in this thread early, someone fed and she was annoying enough to open space for the other actually broken and op characters. Silver is not the problem here.
>>559776336So, what do you build on Drifter now?
>>559792843Yea people like this and NEETs in general are very often awful, bitter and judgemental people who are the makers of their own misery.
>>559792906I've been sending my CVs for the past 2 months in between games and haven't even gotten an email back
>>559792906>getting a job in the big '26lmao
>>559792310>January 30, 2026 - Low HP threshold increased from 30% to 35% health.>February 4, 2026 - Health Threshold trigger from 35% to 40% HP, Threshold Spirit Resistance bonus reduced from 30% to 22%>March 6, 2026 - Low Health threshold increased from 40% to 50%, Low Health resistance reduced from 22% to 15%Mathematically speaking it's been getting significantly nerfed while in an already spirit-heavy meta, which makes you depend on cheaper but unreliable alternatives such as Spirit Shielding (also nerfed) or more expensive burst-oriented prevention like Spellbreaker. This assumes you already buy Counterspell since it's a must have, but you can easily burn through it in a team fight in order to survive.
>silver this, silver thatJesus why does this general care about her so fucking much?
>>559792995in my country if you send enough you will find something, even if its shit, and the family keeps pestering me to do something even tho I still have neetbucks eligibility with any luck I won't get a callback but if I do get it I have to follow through for a few months at least
>>559791269hey now, beam kelvin DEMOLISHES jungle camps
>>559793091They should just give us the old armours back at this point
>>559793091countrespell is only must against certain heroes you can get away with skipping it otherwiseat least in oracle, ik the avg rank here is ascendant + so idk there...
>>559793102It's Silver's game, you're just playing itAnd she's not because she's a throwpick LMAO!
Unbinnable, MM is somehow the worst it's ever been. Also don't question how I have both extra stamina and stamina master, I just noticed it.
>>559792906Brother we are living in a post job world, I wouldn't worry too much about it>t. studied IT just for massive layoffs and AI to erase any chance of a job
>>559792582Yamatos always rape me and I play support though. I wish they'd try to annoy my carries.
>>559793102for me shes the hottest most endearing design we've ever gotten, and her girl-failiure personality and traits make her resonate more with my chud self, mina is far too successful and smugalso southern american accents are soo hot on women
*pours boiling milk into neetfag's eyes*
>>559793102The best designed character unjustly destroyed because shitters were crying
Is everyone in this thread on Oracle or are there any fellow emissary shitters here
>>559793469>>559793581not cool bros... >someone itt already posted all my silver imagesFUCK
Rem...
>>559793581>fill 200 of these>don't get a single request for interviewwhat now
>>559793596>>559786851the irony
>>559793301Matchmaking assumes the best player[s] on the team can always carry the worst player[s] on the team. There's no other way to describe it. That might make sense in a vacuum but in reality that is never how it works. The best players can still make mistakes. The best players can't be everywhere at once. The best players can't stop the enemy team from doing their best too. The best players have to make the best of bad scenario[s]. The way this works out is that some of the time these players will carry to a victory. But the majority of the time it works out to be the enemy team getting stronger faster, and able to do more and win more before their team can. Deadlock is a game about winning more. The more good you do, the more lanes you take over, the more souls you get, the more you win, the faster you win, and the harder it is to be overtaken. So when there's a team with bad players on it, who do bad things all game, and let the enemy team succeed at what they do all the time, you CAN'T comeback. The chance to come back becomes slimmer and smaller with every passing moment.The NEED to fix the matchmaking, it's so fucking bad. Honestly, anyone with less than 50hr in the game shouldn't even have a rank and should be playing with others less than 50hr. Or just let there be ranked/unranked choice.
>>559793118best of luck anon
>>559793658...RAPE
They ruined Silver starting her second patch and it all was downhill from there>first, massive nerfs. Yeah, she was overpowered there in her ult>then, they start buffing her human formWhy? I thought the point was she is not as powerful as human compared to werewolf form? Wasn't that the whole character concept?>they buff her human againOK this is a bit excessive. Like, it's nice she's not as fragile in human now, but this is where people started memeing about no wolf builds and curing lycanthropy by never unlocking the ult because her human form became just as powerful as werewolf.>and now in this patch, they nerf her ult completely, with placebo hot fix which literally does nothing to make her competitive, because for everyone else the buffs are massiveLike Yoshi, what the fuck are you doing you stupid fucking retard? Her whole concept was that she's fragile in human, she gotta be careful with engagements, and then once you build her ult, its a reversal and she becomes the hunter. The enemy team should focus her before she transforms not not get a massive problem on their hands, and she was so squishy you can do it easily. Yes, she was a demon in 1v1 but so are many other characters. And that is not the point, the point is with this update, the ult became a liability. Because Deadlock is very biased toward gun and ranged engagements. So her ult becomes a liability. The no wolf builds are no longer a meme, they're actually viable because you're not taking massive risks of melee engagements. So they made a werewolf character without a werewolf, with the ult that punishes you for unlocking, building it up and activating it.
>>559792843I'm not judgy, I just have low self esteem...
>>559793632gonna be honest i was literally emmissary but had my rank inflated to oracle overnight 2-3 weeks ago during their last shakeup
>HURR DURR silver players bitching and cryingShut your whore mouth you stupid piece of tranny shit. These devs ignored all the feedback from players providing legit bug reports and suggestions, all in favor of listening to retarded "pros" and streamers. Shiv was dogshit for almost a year before they finally did something a few days ago. And they nerfed him because some pro cried like a little bitch about him. Melee Ivy has been punished forever, because some retarded pro and steamer complained about her combos, and as the result she has the most laughable melee scaling in the game. These devs need to be shitted on, they do retarded shit for retarded reasons and one day it will happen to your character. Unless of course you're one of those trannies who just jump between the least effort easiest win brain dead characters.
>>559793712we're looking for fresh graduates with 40yrs experience. get fucked
Who is the most honest, balanced character in the game?
>>559794018Silver before the nerfs.
>>559794018ivy unironically evne tho i dont play her
>>559794018Viscious before the buffs
>notice big wave pushing on a side lane>Victor is right next to it farming jungle camps>surely he'll take all those souls for himself, no need to defend there>"They've taken our green walker">cunt keeps farming tier 3 camps
>>559793340>tfw eu neet>tfw unironically don't want to neet anymore and want to find a good job because i want more money>tfw the job market is so fucking fucked in my country that that there's genuinely fuckall for jobs to do, even the low-skilled ones, because every rare position that opens up has 50 other people with better experience and capabilities than me applying to iti picked the worst time to stop wanting to be a neet
>>559793738He'd put you to sleep and rape you.
Surely Sinclair is being completely reworked considering he received no updates whatsoever in the patch?
>>559794149based victor not showing
>>559794018bebop but unironically
>>559794162Same except anything low-skilled has 1 billion indians and anything high-skilled needs 80 years of experience
>>559792843>Just let people be assholes to you broDo neurotypicals really?
won my first game with haze after 5 games halleluja
>>559794105new kudzu bomb and ult will get further nerfs to scaling to pidgeonhole her into being a healslut
>>559794232shooting his weapon makes me want to uninstall the game, there is nothing more unsatisfying in this game than shooting sinclair's weapon
>>559794232Yea, same with Holliday.
>>559794018universal truth
>>559793102So, you know the fixation female characters have on Victor? reverse the genders. It's just waifufaggotry, pay no mind.
>>559793725It should take into account the character then, If I'm supposed to be the best in my team on this lobby then why am I on paradox? The very intended role that Yoshit has for her is as an ultbot. Not quite carry material.
>>559792894>kino like Glass Cannon and Lucky ShotWhy did you misspell Trophy Collector and Magic Carpet, retardbro?
goddaym the ball gets big
Spamming Knives with full spirit Shiv is funPeople don't even know they're dead until it's too late
>lash>boxer guy>kit revolves around jumping around and whipping people I feel lite a lot of older heroes are getting kit or design changes.
>>559794232I hope not. His kit is fucking great and unironically doesn't need major reworks.What he needs though is bug fixes and an actual model
>>559794540not lash though, both his look and gameplay style is way too iconic
>>559794018Venator, outside of his ult one-shotting people at launch he never has never been truly buffed or nerfed, they simply spread the strength of his kit around.All of his abilities can be countered without a single item, he is quite possibly the only honest character in the game.
>>559794540He is a stevedore, who works with ropes and his name is lash
>>559794245feels bad man being stuck in the middle wondering if the world is going to end in 2026 or if i'm somehow going to be able to find a job that pays better than neeting, somehow all the government workers, psychiatrists, psychologists, doctors and nurses think i can just stroll into the employment factory and get a job within a day>>559794540i just think of him as an acrobatic popeyes
lash does way too much despite being so simple to playwhy doesn't this faggot character get nerfed? nobody ever enjoys playing agaisnt lash
>lose 8 games in a ro>rank goes upman, I sorta wished they made rank hidden so players dont get stressed out caring about rank
>>559794435>Dynamo>Paige>PocketNo. I agree with the rest.
>>559794435>Mo&Krill>dishonestjust walk away lil' bro
>>559788821It's actually sad how Warden's ult is just a much worse version of Yamato's, people don't even back off when you use it anymore and just shoot you to death because it does nothing.
>>559794672I've been saying it since I started playing (a year and change ago). He is way to mobile and does way too much damage. He doesn't even need his 2 to get high into the sky to ult. And his 1 does ridiculous burst damage with a knock up/stun. His 4+1 combo is outrageously powerful and is not easy to dodge despite what niggers will tell you. Not even just that it's strong it's a guaranteed displacement directly into an even worse situation (team gang rape abilities, enemy base, etc). It genuinely might as well just be an instant kill. His 3 also is quite useful and he regens health easily, with good stamina and an alright gun. Genuine anti-fun character.
>>559792109Which again, this game will be even more woke than Overfag, no matter if /dlg/ says Valve would never.
>>559794435>Dynamo>Holliday>Ivy>Pocket>Seven>Venator>Vindicta>VyperAgree>Billy>Graves>Geist>Lash>Shiv>Sinclair>ViscousEh...>Kelvin>Mina>Mirage>Paige>Paradoxlmao, nonot a single thing honest about these characters.
>friend insists on getting into this game because it has le cool lore and characters, even though he cant handle losing whatsoever, he begs the enemy team to end the game and stops fighting them if they get into our base, he ragequits games and gets put in low prio constantly, he even rages over street brawl
>>559795105it's "*ting ting ting* DIE", not "*ting ting ting* SURVIVE"
>>559793379Endearing how? She's just white haired smug anime woman.
>>559795216mina and mirage are both dogshit this patch and hilariously easy to kill too
>>559795401silver is anything but smug?
lighting scroll on vindictameme or actually good?
Why do people take this game so seriously?
hello everyone i love victor very much thank you
>>559795481>lighting scroll on vindictaYeah, turns her into a 1v1 rapist on par with Mo
>>559795453I think anon was talking about her design, which I also disagree with, she doesn't look smug.But I agree that she's even more generic than Paige and Graves.
>>559795530moba+shooter audienceThats all you need to know
>>559795563foid post
so since they're not going to nerf victor and he has a 68% wr in eternus i should just permapick victor only no matter what
Is current siphon bullets any good?
>>559795708simple designs work best, over-design is garbage, mina is overdesigned and it works cause she stands out so much from the rest of the cast silver is a nice simple design
>>559795530its all i have going for me. fuck off normie
>>559795942Why aren't they going to nerf Vic?
>>559795254Call me a noob sure but it feels like there really isn't anything you can do about his ult. 99/100 times he's too far above you to even see, it is not possible to always have sight of him/know where he is, it activates too fast and has too big of a range, and "catches" you too quickly. The only times I ever escape a Lash ult is if I predict it because I see him obviously double jump into the air, or because I am already pre-dodging it (say, already dash behind cover/wall/underground/etc). If you just playing like normal and he ults, you're done. You can buy counterspell sure, but it's not always applicable. Other characters ults you can either: do something about, or "deal with" as it's happening. Bebop lasers you? You can run away and get behind cover. Viscous balls? You can jump/dash him. Wraith ults? Unless you've very close you can atleast dip behind cover or move as far away as possible. Paige ult? You can dodge it. Venator ult? You can run. And so on.Lash? Nah fuck you you're guaranteed to eat thousands of damage + stuns + displacement + DOTs/enemy abilities. It's bullshit.
>>559793219Not anymore.
>>559795942m1 characters counter him really hard especially if his team mates are retarded braindeadt. mindbroke by uber fed haze
>>559796091Provided I have enough stamina I can generally avoid his ultimate without using counterspell especially now that his ult range is so puny
>Make Pocket playable again>On the patch everyone gets giga buffednothing has changed
>>559795942bro, your spellbreaker?
>>559796316yep, calico is even worse than wraith, its disgusting rnnigger lover ismail icefrog
>>559794604>have a wall behind you>die
>>559795942People aren't used to him actually doing something outside of his aura but he still gets raped by silence (especially since most builds don't include resistances) t. Victor main
>>559795892Trans, you mean.
>>559796246How so though? Genuinely asking. There are times I even have stamina mastery, see him in the sky or hear the bell, and I do everything I possibly can to run away/get out of the way as fast as human possible and it isn't enough and I still get caught. Like there are times I think it would be actually impossible for any player of any skill to dodge it. Like I will have full stamina, at max range, double dodging, and still get trapped and I just ask myself "how is it even possible".Even when I play Lash, and I'm not good as him, I EASILY ult fuck the enemy because it's such an "I win" no skill ability
>8 heroes who are all vastly above 50% wr in the highest ranks>15 heroes who are all vastly below 45% wr in all rankslollmaogood balancing right there
>>559796525Just break line of sight as soon as you hear the bell and you're generally safe unless he is specifically targetting you and you alone
>>559796492trannies like yurishit
Does the innate CC reduction apply to all effects or just stuns and hard disables
reduce ground stomp's damage by 2/3rdsremove knock up on ground stompremove heal on flogdecrease air control by 2/3rdsincrease time to focus on ult twofoldthere, lash is now fun to play against
>>559796316The sample size is too small to draw conclusions since you limited it to just e4+ and last 24 hours. Calico / McG / Victor / Wraith / Ivy are all fair and balanced :)
>loving women is transYou're mentally ill and you will never reproduce
>>559796316if this sandnigger isn't hot fixing mcginnis today, then consider me a mcginnis one trick
>>559796492No. That's definitely an actual foid, not a troid.
>>559796750>make him shit and he'll be fun to play against
>>559796814>>559796316What's so broken about mcginnis anyway?
>yurifaggot being a tranny faggotgo cry about silver being weak
>>559796750>reduce ground stomp's damage by 2/3rdsno>remove knock up on ground stompno>remove heal on flogIt barely heals>decrease air control by 2/3rdsno>increase time to focus on ult twofoldin a game where people move like coke addicts? nah
>>559796471>have a wall behind youJust don't, you are not forced to engage him in an enclosed space.
>>559796868>pop ult>slap out 2k damage shots with a huge radius every second for 20 seconds>get ult back in 40 secondsu mad bro?
>>559796750The ult range reduction finally made Lash a honest hero, he doesn't need more nerfs.
>>559796830>>559796874niggers
>>559796814full spirit ult builds
>>559796267Pocket is now the nuclear option against Victor.
>>559796660Trannies like bara as well as they are entirely fetish people.
>>559796973this but kind of unironically, every lash in broool has been a useless nigger that does fuckall because of the new ult
>>559796975shitter
Feels like Greenwich is always under attack.
>>559797058you are a niggerstop responding to menigger
I just love women, that's it
>>559797026If you don't build divine barrier against Pocket lategame, you really have nobody else to blame
>>559797129The Lash does it again
>>559797135Silver looks like a man here
Celeste teaching Rem the pleasures of the flesh.
Any Mirage OTPs here? How do you keep up in farm? It's too slow to farm jungle camps. Clearing waves is slow too. I'm tempted to rush Ricochet after some spirit items.
I don't think i've ever had a Lash be a noticeable problem. Imagine caring about him when there's so many more cancerous heroes
>>559797283The Lash is an honest hero
>>559797283nta. But death slam was one of the most cancerous ults in the game, needing counterspell to turn it into a 50/50 speaks volumes.
>>559793102Waifufags.
>>559797368shitter
>>559797283Mo, Bebop, Lash, and Viscous. Never fun to play against.
>>559797283>lash and dynamo on enemy teamI already know what I'm in for in the first second of the game
>>559797283>>559797368they just made lash ult unusable, it tosses like 2m in front of himlash is dead
is there any champ who actually uses lightning scroll?
>>559783108>Fire Scarabs cooldown quadrupled>Fire Scarabs cooldown THEN increased by 20s>Delay added between charges of Fire Scarabs>Fire Scarabs scaling reduced, moved to upgrade 3>Fire Scarabs cooldown reduction upgrade removed>Fire Scarabs base charges halved, placed on second upgrade>Tornado CDR on second upgrade halved>Tornado lift effectively removed>Tornado upgrade 3 evasion removed>Djinn's Mark cooldown increased by 25%, 33% with upgrade 3>Djinn's Mark 0.5s slow nerfed, now decays over duration>Traveler now cancels on damage>Traveler camera bug made into a feature (so you can no longer see what you're teleporting into)>Traveler cooldown reduction moved from upgrade 1 to upgrade 3>Traveler unstoppable removed entirelyGee I can only wonder why this hero's winrate plummeted. Don't worry though there's still cocksuckers (with 0 Mirage games played) saying this was somehow a buff and Mirage players are just bad.
>>559797096greenwich doesnt exist anymore
Can't blame people shipping Silver with men and women. She's so hot anyone would want her.
>>559797482>champion shooteryou have to go back, 2xko is dying
>tfw Lash ult into Dynamo ult into Apollo ult into total teamwipeI was never this raped before
>>559797482Rem and Seven, a few others use it too but its sort of a flex item
are there any toons that use lightning scrolls ?>>559797606sorry
>>559797482It's funny on Vindicta if the game goes long enough to upgrade mystic slow
>>559797145Do you even do any damage after buying counter items for all the bullshit abilities on the enemy team?
>>559796085Because he's bad and you just need to buy counter items
>>559797606>rootkit """""anticheat""""">barely a dozen characters despite 10+ years of dev time>from a company with a track record of rugpulling any game that isn't their chinkslop mobaI was never there to begin with
>>559786158>Insane late game team nukingYes I'm sure they will all stand still while you take 33% longer to get your marks with 40% of your gun damage missing and no tornado lift to hold them in-place>Can farm and be in a teamfightMirage is not even close to the only, or best, hero for this anymore.
>>559793102Silver...>is the biggest waifu character of the recent batch>had the most tourists>has every tranny celeste and mina self-inserter drooling and spamming nothing-burger yuri-ship fanart>punishes league players and people who have shit itemization or movement>used to have huge pick rates but 45%~ WRs in pubbies>In nightshift has a 100%~ pick rate and was constantly first picked yet a sub 25%~ win rate with """top players""" insisting she was S-tier and mega OP even though even Silver wins had her doing basically nothing turning her into the biggest lolcow (seriously, a good chunk of Anons purely watch nightshift just because of Silver posting) >potential woman
>>559797612>Lash ult into Dynamo ult into Ivy kudzu into Celeste ult into Dynamo ult again
>>559797567Wasn't the tornado evasion moved to 2?
>>559797805I infact do have room for damage despite buying one of the best items in the game that completely removes my hard counter and is generally useful. I don't know where this aversion to buying a single green item comes from.
>>559797884>(seriously, a good chunk of Anons purely watch nightshift just because of Silver postingthat's just you being a complete autist and spamming about silver 24/7
>>559797567>Don't worry though there's still cocksuckers (with 0 Mirage games played) saying this was somehow a buff and Mirage players are just bad.The game, like most multiplayer games with characters, has a big problem with retards who don't play a character weighing in on that character when they get nerfed or buffed or just asking for them to get nerfed.
>>559797272You want riccochet as early as you can get away with after the laning stage, unless you are doing some hypothetical aggressive ganking build.However you need to know when you have to delay it to not have your game fall apart from you dying while trying to save for it.You'd want to hit 2 4.8k investment spikes before you go for it generally. However new patch new Mirage
>Silverfags really are the new Minafagssigh...
>>559798061More of her for me :)
>>559797949>that's just youI'm more of a lash guy, I ALWAYS watch when someone is playing lash. I still get off to that double back to back deathslam two weeks ago.Silver posting during night shift was funny as fuck, it's a bit old now though.
Street brawl is fun. You can just rape enemy objectives if you dont like losing because of how little hp they have.
Phantom lobby btw
For me it's Graves.
>artfags trend deadlock on xumblr xeddit>influx of trannies
>lash has sausage links hanging from his beltWhy doesn't any of his spells utilise them?
>Nigger predditors will go on about how this is honest. 50% bullet resist, 100% lifesteal, easily 200+ dps with just a couple spirit items, infinitely scaling health and a 1 minute cooldown.I've seen enough, nerf silver.
>>559797482viscous :)
Explode waifufags heads and send the bloody juices of their brains in a bottle to their mothers.
Do people who hate counter items not realize they also give you damage or health Silence Wave adds more damage than improved spirit if you use it
>silver is OP/balanced now! -> midwit take>silver is underpowered. -> low wit, high wit take
>>559798350if only there was a way to prevent the channel
>>559798425Yeah I'll silence him once he ults
>>559798350MORON
>silverfags use jaksGood riddance, hope she gets even more nerfs
>>559798381silence wave also procs Counterspell (if they try to parry) and spellbreaker doesn't it?
>>559798425Sure, my chigga. It's not like he can just around with veil walker insta ulting people. He clearly doesn't have the dps to kill anything by himself.
>>559798350You think that's bad? Seven can do that to a whole team!
>>559798349That's his post-game snack.
>>559798556Walk away. You can just walk away.
>>559798518It does Honestly this shit's broken after the buff. No reason not to buy it, I always get somebody bitching midgame about it fucking them.
>>559798350I've always found M&K ult madness strange. It's extremely obvious when he's running at you to ult. Just stay away from him, there ain't shit he can do unless he purposefully buys phantom strike/warp stone (or both). As soon as you see him, just stay away as far as possible. The only times it's really bad is during team fights, in which he becomes a sitting duck and can easily be team focused. You can also have your own warp stone to dodge itI honestly can't remember the last time I died to a M&K ult. If I'm not mistaken you can get reactive barrier against it so you mitigate a good chunk of his damage.
>>559798350Huh, I guess toxic bullets is good against him, problem is I'm Graves and I don't want to get close to him
>>559798349I thought he was a kraut at first because of that but hen I heard his voice and was sad.
>>559793102she cute
HOW DO I FIND THE STEAM PROFILES OF MY ALLIES? quick
>>559798350WE HAVE YOU NOW!
Anybody else here /translock/?
>>559798849no im gaylock
>>559794435>>559795216>characters with targeted hard CC>Honest>characters with no cc or raw hard to lane skill shots>dishonestTourists need to stop using our lingo
>>559798849I am female to male trans and exclusively play Victor because of the scars and Venator, Lash, and Abrams because they are barasluts
>>559798849Sorry only natural /femlock/ers allowed here, troon.
>>559798679And No & skill players simple ult someone in the middle of a fight and that person is dead. Niggers don't even buy the perfect fit item that is diviner kevlar or unstoppable for him because you don't fucking need due to how braindead it is.
>>559798849Yeah I'm Boy to Man
What's your gun investment on spirit heroes?Mystic Shot and Headhunter/Alch fire?
I like how they decided to buff already strong hereos and buff really annoying ones so now every game is either>abrams>mo krill>vindicta>paradox (always played by someone who can't aim)
>>559798350Ready to see what a mole man can do?
>>559799259Alchfire/Heroic aura + stalker/slowing bullets/fleetfoot
>>559793102She’s not even the hottest character
>>559799352You forgot Victor, the guy who already had a 55% winrate
>>559799259Resto Shot, Toxic Bullets, Close Quarters, Split Shot, Escalating Resilience Inhibitor, Leech in that order. Later on sell Split Shot for Ricochet, and upgrade Close Quarters to Point Blank. I usually skip Bullet Lifesteal and build Leech directly.
You know, I'm insanely curious how the fuck these characters looked and played like before they were officially released. Like, did Billy have his typical animations but on Shiv model or something? Was Frank basically identical?
>>559798679you can't possibly be surprised, it comes with the territory. it doesn't matter how you slice it the fps crowd that plays this game will ALWAYS hate CC with a passion no matter what. Same way the moba crowd hates m1 toons.
convincing graves to give me her period blood for a "magical ritual"
>rape enemy drifter and paige on lane>lose game>paige says supp difGame needs a post game chat I wanted to call it slurs.
>>559799560oh he was in the game I just got my dick stomped on too.
>>559799692I don't think this sounds like a Spirit build
>>559799707you need to kill yourself
>>559799707Just ask her for cookies around valentinesday.
>>559799352>Paradox >buffedKek what sort of retarded pisslow take is this. Yoshit completely gutted Paradox, then gave her back a small fraction of her power.
>>559798350>>559798540stop being shitters
>>559798350shut up pussy
>>559799885It is on Graves.
>>559799702Swan?!
graves... saved the game?
>bro can't stop thinking about trannies and thinks he's straightCouldn't be me. I love biological women women with XX chromosomes. You keep thinking about your beloved trannies, faggot.
>trannies out of nowhere
Silver is BUILT for White men.
The paradox skin that never was
>>559800140>>better gameplay>11 minute durationnigga that's just viewerbait. character design doesn't mean better gameplay it just means it's easier to get hooked in the game. what REALLY makes for better gameplay from a visual standpoint is the animations, sfx and (in shooters) gunfeel.
>>559800319>Wraith>Not S+
>>559800038>she was gutted bro trust me>max ult can atomize a bundled up team>can still swap silence through wall>grenade buffedlole
>>559800319how are they ALL smiling talk about unoriginal cept based yamato and mirage
i read the patchnotes but didnt understand shit is my nigga kevin playable as damage dealer again or is he still locked to being a healcuck
>>559800319fix your grammar
>>559800392mo and krill aren't but that's just because they couldn't be arsed to draw on top of themhonestly i've come to dislike most of these
I want werewolf Silver to forcefully hold me down and push my face into her gigantic, puffy, warm, wet, in heat fortune cookie while I get knotted by a dog
>>5597992591600s: K-dash, Stalker, Opening Rounds3200s: Point Blank, Cultist, Ballistic, Alch FireSome combination of the above, left bought more often right. Only 800s I buy are Close Quarters and Monster Rounds which I can decide to upgrade or just sell for slots later.
>>559800319Seven, Victor and Haze literally have the highest winrate right now
>>559800535white woman post
>>559800359it's metros tierlist
>>559800319I just watched this video! I think he's wrong about Victor though. Bro is a menace.
>>559800319What is this tierlist for?
>>559800140i would rather stick my feet into a deep fat fryer than watch this shit
>>559800613Wh*te women merely adopted the freakSEA women were born in it. Molded by it.
>>559800140i would rather have Graves stick her stinky feet into my face than watch this shit
My movement tech starts and stops at spamming slide. What is the highest rank I will be able to achieve?
>>559799702boho... someday...
>>559800831low-mid eternus
>it's yet another fed chinese haze matchWhy exactly did they buff this pub stomper hero?
>>559800831Eternus 6, assuming all other aspects of your gameplay are good enough for rank 1.
>all slots filled with t4 items>game is still goingwhat now
There should be a higher tier version of reactive barrier.
>ivy is popular>she's also strong this patch>nobody bothered updating any builds for herokay then
>>559800319Victor downplaying nigger.
>>559800319Is MIna actually good in eternus?
>>559800363>using theoretical power as an objective argument I guess Holliday maxed E with ricochet is the best character in the game since it can delete all 6 players instantly. You're genuinely a retard. Everything about Paradox was nerfed and moved into her skill upgrades, all her baseline damage was nerfed and had spirit scaling added, her best 2 spirit abilities, both got their damaged removed. Wall does 0 damage when before it did max hp % and swap had the spirit lifesteal removed entirely which is objectively better than barrier. Had it's damaged removed which had to be reverted immediately, and also does no damage without spirit scaling. There's 0 chance you ever hit a 6 man swap outside of initiate. You can stop embarrassing yourself anytime.
>>559800831all you really need is a good path for rotations and being able to slide and shoot for chasing down kills
>>559800990Eggmaxx. Rebuy Refresher to reset CD.
this is fair matchmaking
>>559800319This tierlist is so bad that if you assigned the tiers completely randomly you'd be closer to correct.
>walker stops shooting to throw fireballs at the diving drifterJUST LASER HIM
They should just remove her ult atp or remove her from the game entirely, her ult is a liability now and you should lay without it. Unironically, never unlock it. I played two matches without it already and had a good time
>>559800831Unless you're maining lash, celeste or holliday you can make it to E6 with just dash-jump-slide and wall jumps
>>559800319>wraith victor seven billy downplayed heavily>spirit characters massively overrated minus doormanThis is metro isn't it
>>559801342>you should lay without itI've been having success with Silver by not unlocking her ult until I can unlock all the boons for it.
>>559800831Eternus, unironically
>>559798679>The only times it's really bad is during team fights, in which he becomes a sitting duck and can easily be team focused.You can't be seriously saying this when he's one of the tankier heroes in the game, can scorn mid combo, and gets full leech with 1 point and 50% bullet res on a ult that will basically take out half an HP bar by itself with how well it scales. People don't realize how deadly CC is in MOBAs.I wouldn't be upset at Mo n Krill if he was a lower HP character that you could kill to save your teammate (Sounds familiar...), but right now, MnK ult guarantees a pick on anything that isn't an outright "why the fuck would you even engage here" situation.
>>559801227that is the joke party mode you play to fuck around in between real games
>>559801784when are you meant to sell egg
>>559798679>unless he purposefully buys phantom strike/warp stoneliterally every mk buys one of those first are you retarded ?? what a shitlow take
>>559801819>joke party mode>all the faggots on the other team pick the most tryhard sweatiest meta characters
>>559800319I wonder what this user's thoughts on lightning scroll on.
>>559801227complaining about matchmaking and posting a pic from street brawl should get you killed
playing this negress kinda fun just BRRRRRRRRRT lmao at the 40k souls diff throw they did though every game is winnable in archon/oracle at least NEVER SURRENDER
>>559801920>No slots>Not enough not an item>It's past 20 minutes
>>559801227Ivy is literally one of the strongest heros in that mode though. You're probably just dogshit at the game
>celeste in my team>uses voice>its a transeverytime
>>559801998the same goes for mina, silver, and paige
>>559801498Brother I'm telling you, take one step further and don't unlock it at all. It's how Yoshi intended us to play her in this patch.
>>559801998All three trannies that I've encountered (that I'm aware of) have all been silvers. Surprised I haven't seen a Celeste tranny
>>559801998Seems like an American thing. I'm in EU and never had them on comms. Maybe you should upgrade to a better country lmao
>>559802201im EU and heard plentyeven added an agp trans voice mina for erp but they never accepted...
>>559801819>in between real gamesShould we tell her?
>>559801998>>559802053whenever one of these characters speak on mic in my games its always eastern european meatball of a man
>>559801998Most of them don't even bother voice training anymore either and still expect you to not clock them. I mean wtf.
>>559802167HAHAHAHAH SILVERTRANNIES
>>559801227>ivytranny complaining about fair games>in fucking street brawl
>>559802061kök
>>559801998I was in a lobby with a 4 stack of trannys 2 days ago and none of them were Celeste. I've only heard real women playing her. The troons were playing Pocket, Seven, Ivy, and Kelvin btw.
>>559802576wtfimagine the 5some
>the mod is real nowI wonder if that one mega autist is happy now.https://gamebanana.com/mods/658628
>>559801998>>559802167>All my trannies have been celeste's or Mina's.>Best silver player I played with in low-phantom filled was casually talking about his wife with his Abrams duo.>Both sounded twice my age.>I don't think he put points into werewolf form.
>>559799719I mean Paige really doesn't need to do well in lane phase to turn the game around later on. With Paige once you have your basic support shit unlocked you just camp all the team fights and do just enough to prevent your team from being wiped before the enemy team.
>>559777248I'm old enough to know that teenagers flock to Valve games like moths to a flame. The loudest teenagers are the trooniest.
>>559802645basedmuch better than ingame calico
>all these talks of FTMsfeels good to be a eurochad
>tired of gun geist>try out pure gun holliday>she's actually less janky than geistjust build all burst on her (express, headhunter, cripplinghs, mystic shot, tankbuster) and you nuke hp bars
>>559802737maybe 10 years ago unc teenagers are on fortnite/rivals etc now, valve games are like all 25+ yo
>>559802167Oh yeah and I did encounter a Calico that might've been a tranny but I think it actually was a foid.
>>559802645How do you remove this mod without sounding racist by allowing 20 nigger conversion mods?
My movement tech starts and stops at pressing W, occasionally spacebar to jump ontop of ledgesAm I ready to ditch bot games for real games?
>>559802640I'd rather not. They were dogshit half of them had some tranny name convention like "Trans Seven main" and "Trans Ivy Main" literally a humiliation ritual.
>>559803010>"Trans Seven main" and "Trans Ivy Main"cringe asflikely hons or troons as the passable tranners call themthough I wouldn't mind a 5some with a bunch of cute deadlock tranners...
Been playing and learning this game, but the recent update feels like it has made it impossible now. I'm just melting instantly any time there is a Wraith or Doorman even with resilience buys, and that's every single enemy team all day yesterday. Even with Wraith banned by 2-3 people in my group.
Is melee lash viable?I was thinkin it was a good idea since ur pretty close to niggas once you land on em
>>559802645Other hair was significantly better. He ruined it.
>>559803002>Playing botgamesI didn't realize people like this existed holy fuck
>Yoshi outs himself as playing in a skill bracket where people will unironically stand still for 15s to let Mirage build stacks, get hit by max Djinn's Mark stacks, lose 80% of their health, then let him keep shooting them to do it again (which is why he gets a stun for it)
>>559803002have you tried pressing shift ?really opens up the game
>tranny trans trans game tranny trans tranny trannyI'm tired boss
>>559803002Yeah, early games might be really rough but if you suck hard enough you'll end up facing people who play the exact same way.
>>559800319I hate how retarded Ivy looks she looked cooler in her old portrait and design
E-girls play Paige, Rem, and they're usually duoing with their Apollo/Victor boyfriends.Trannies play AGP chars like Celest and Mina.Silver and Ivy have a large subsect of waifu fags, some of which are trannies.The only 25+ yo woman I know who plays deadlock without e-girling one tricks lash with Abrams and Mirage as backup picks. She's unironically better than me.
>>559802361I had a "she/her" on my team that was literally speaking in a deep redneck voice, you are expected to assume this is a woman lest you get the SPLC on your ass for committing a hatecrime
>>559803204implying he plays his own fucking gamejamie pull up the marvel rivals screenshot
>>559803424>E-girls play Paige, Rem, and they're usually duoing with their Apollo/Victor boyfriends.I can 100% confirm this btwt. egirl
>>559803304wow, so cool and awesomedoesn't look like a retarded ww2 racist propaganda against bugmen at all
>>559803424nigga no self respecting man plays apollo maybe their simp cucks
>>559803424egirls play celeste and mina too but to self insert as them
>>559803628>>559803628>>559803628>>559803628>>559803628>>559803628
>>559803227Draft can't come soon enough.
>>559803639>imageDeadlock?
>>559803002Hold crouch while climbing up ledges for the speed boost and you're good enough for most ranks.
Someone bake a real OP
>>559803204yeah it's called 'internal test server'
>>559803607At least she doesn't look retarded. The redesign itself is not bad, but her everlasting retarded smile just doesn't work for me. I saw an animation where she has a more serious expression and she looks good there
>>559803639>>559803720>>559803946https://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/559804460https://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/559804460https://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/559804460https://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/559804460559804460
>>559804494>>559804460>>559804460>>559804460
>>559803639>>559804618>neither of them changed the fucking edition
>>559802645The White Woman of Valve Originality is REAL!
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