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Konnichiwa Dude Edition

>Game Info:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/
>Marathon Game Home Page
https://www.marathonthegame.com/

>Gameplay Trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWwXSb7dlnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXhQbF7TlbA

>The Entire History of Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

Databases:
https://tauceti.world/
https://tauceti.gg/
https://marathonmeta.gg/

/vg/ Discord:
https://discord.gg/RDy8sPCeKc

News:
>MARATHON TERMINALS ONLINE IN DIRE MARSH
https://cryoarchive.systems/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xl543pQOw
>SEASONS & ROADMAP
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon
>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUT
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0
>FIRST OFFICIAL CUP COMING SOON
https://x.com/MarathonTheGame/status/2031747566812180723
>BATTLEPASS UPDATED
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xnRC9IxTkJo
>RECENT PATCH NOTES
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_0_0_4

Previous Run: >>560453117
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#FreeKitSupremacy
#TriageNumbaONE
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Konnichiwa, Runner. Have you let a tick bite you today?
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if cryo archive really is forced trioslop im joining the doomers
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Give me this skin for thief. I want to play as a tactical mannequin
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>can't solo marathon ship
>have to be level 25 to even get on it
hate my stupid chud life
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>lose fight
>jokingly plead for my life
>other team sounds mad
what makes someone like this?
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>I play solo, the way extraction shooters are meant to be played
Not Marathon.
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why does bungie have so much contempt for solo players
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Chat, what's the fastest method to gain rep? should I carry randos to do their quests or solo spam contracts?
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I wish assassin had harsher debuffs
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>>560503171
>>jokingly plead for my life
>>other team sounds mad
>what makes someone like this?
Mind numbing hatred for the Arc raiders community. My hatred for them is what made me giga rat on Marathon, just in case anyone moved from Arc to Marathon, I want to rat them in the nastiest way possible.
Hate HATE
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>>560500654
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>>560503171
>lose fight
>"NO PLEASE, I HAVE SO MUCH LOOT, I BEG YOU"
>they immediately scramble to execute me
>free kit inside
Get fucked.
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>>560503204
>>I play solo, the way extraction shooters are meant to be played
>Not Marathon.
Marathon is fully compatible with both
>But PvE is harder
Well PvP is harder in trios with randos. You trade harder PvP for harder PvE, one mode completes the other. We can get along and hate Arc raiders together
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>queue for cryo archive with a free kit
>immediately run off and do whatever i want
sorry bungie but you already rookpilled me
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This game is fucking unfair. I'll get Nightrein and drop this shit
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>Buy Marathon
>Tries to install Destiny 2 along with it
>Open steam
>Marathon Deluxe Edition is in my cart
Bungie, please. You're starting to look desparate.
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are you ready for the marathon?
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>go troll on Marathon reddit
>some dude sends me message
>hey man nice biceps ur so hot
>check his profile
>it's a gay African who sells make up
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>>560503716
>>560503716
Fuck, this made me cackle lol.
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>>560503353
Very cringe
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>>560503716
hello, based department? you're gonna want to see this
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1/4th of the entire game (Cryo Archives) is flat out not playable by solo players.

Solo players who are the majority of the playerbase. What is Bungie thinking?
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>>560503941
something along the lines of "thanks for the money, suckeys"
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>you wouldn't believe me if I told you, anon
>forty stacks of cardio kicks all at once
>i went faster than anything
>i saw it all
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Can they please announce the reset being 6 months instead of 3? This game is too grindy for 3
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Does the TAD thing ping enemy runners different from bots?
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>>560503761
Why are you posting yourself on reddit?
Why not here...
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I don't see a problem with Cryo being trios. I have fun playing with randoms.
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>>560504308
Technically no, but you can usually tell it's a player based on two things
>Shield tier
>Location
If you see an isolated green shield get scanned and then by the next TAD pulse they've suddenly disappeared it usually means that's a player, whereas something like a purple shield surronded by whites is a good indicator that it's UESC
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Black men of Marathon 2026 love white cocks
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>>560503551
Well this is the saddest fight I've ever seen. God the Hardline is a piece of shit.
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Where has it been confirmed you need to be in a trio to do Cryo Archive? Cause if so I need to start trawling LFG's then...
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>>560504557
Fair point
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>>560503941
>What is Bungie thinking?
"Thanks for the 40 bucks"
Bungo loves making content for streamers and tryhards, that's their thing, they didn't hire the Valorant guy for no reason

I have no idea why solo players ever bought this thinking it was gonna be different
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>>560504707
It does support solo
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>>560504561
Okay dude you're hot and a redditor we get it.
Back in my day the mods would have banned you for both of these
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Didn't realize the previous thread was over
I put off sekiguchi processing ghosts > pinwheel for ages and it's still a gigantic ballache.
>round the entire map multiple times
>kill 4 players
>loot 4k loot
>only ever find one green key
>nobody else opened any of the entrances
>finally exfil at 8m
>see someone opening one finally
Just end me now.
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>>560504707
check the discord in the OP
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>>560504768
proof? somebody on leddit was able to get to the queuing screen for it and there's a popup about needing a team
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>>560504707
some redditor got into the matchmaking screen
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>>560504394
Because I'm straight
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>>560503941
Is there a source on it being the majority?
You hear from them the most, but that's natural because people playing with friends will be talking to them about the game instead of on social media.
>What is Bungie thinking?
That they're going to make what they want to make.
This game is the most obvious passion project I've ever seen from a AAA developer.
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>>560504814
This doesn't cover all the possible spawns but I usually have this map open on a second monitor when I'm hunting greens.
>grab nearest red
>hunt two greens quietly or quickly if I'm confident I'm alone
If you're solo, bringing claymores to cover the vents in the side rooms while breaching can be a good idea, Thieves/Vandals can jump up those and stab you in the back while you're fending off UESC. I've done it a few times.
Airfield is generally a fairly quiet place that has weapons lockers and 4 potential greens, if I spawn on the west side I generally grab the red way the fuck out on the pier and then head to Airfield, if Dormitories has the Tox Warden people generally steer clear of it so it's a good place to do the breach. Flight Control is generally a fuckin death trap.
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>>560505184
Damn, great advice and map. Cheers anon.
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pretty funny knowing they're going to kill their own game by nerfing free kits continuously and needlessly hyping a map with a ridiculous ARG

every tarkov-like dev thinks its still 2015
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>game designed around playing in trios with friends
>only way to recover from a bad run is by forcing everyone to play alone for a while
what was the thinking here, why cant rook squad
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>>560504931
>passion project
>butchered original design turned into a hero battle royale with light extraction shooter paint complete with 8 different reworks, pivots and redesigns
>three maps on launch while tarkov launched with almost ten
>no customizable shells

shills used to be believable
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>cryo archive
>cold storage
>in a game with consciousness transfer and seasonal resets
if the chase goal for this game isn't having your character saved for the next season by getting a rare key for cryo archives, i will be so upset

>>560505436
>what was the thinking here?
"let's cut down the game we're working on to a 1:1 copy of the most popular genre shooter on the market and see if we can get away with saving our company from the Destiny team's decision to suicide dive" was all the thinking that went into this game.
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>>560505452
the first playable version of tarkov you could buy into had 2 maps
3 by the time they extended beta access to all pre-orders
the cheapest pre-order was $50
you're full of shit
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Man I really don't like that I have this vault full of loot but absolutely zero healing items to the point where it would make more economic sense to go into a map with the starting kit and just do a knife fight for my first engagement instead of spending credits or mats on healing items at the armoury. Does it ever get easier to acquire them?
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>>560504707
My worm wife can't be this cute
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>>560504707
>got a contract for you, runner. i need a keycard from inside the pinwheel. it's not as bad as they say, you'll get to meet new people, you know, finally "get out of the house" as they used to say back on earth. you'll get out of the house and into the perfectly safe pinwheel for sekiguchi genetics.
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>Nooo I get free gun and free ammo and free implants and free shields and free backpacks but I NEED free healing items too noooo
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>>560505796
Sparkleaf is a rotating barter item that gives stacks of green meds, after the next patch that lets you stack stuff more it should be more feasible to just stock up a lot when they're available for an easy barter.
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>>560505452
>they spent ages in preproduction finding something they really liked
That suggests it WAS a passion project and wasn't just cashing in on a trend.
>while tarkov launched with almost ten
lmao what?
it had 10 after like half a decade of being sold with $250 p2w editions
>no customizable shells
I know a few people in the north-east AAA sphere and it really does seem like the consensus in those circles are that this style of shitty bland character designs are something special and cool. I do still think that one is passion, just retarded.
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any other solo players feel like there's zero incentive to hold onto anything in the vault aside from backpacks, shields, and upgrade materials? the two best weapons in the game (the bully and the punch) are both cheap as dirt, and if you want shotgun instakill memes you can just buy those or get them for free from arachne too.

it's like the opposite of gear fear, more gear apathy where due to how unbalanced the game is and how PVP is usually unavoidable I just don't care about my gear.
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>>560505796
Anon sell your things that aren't meds and then buy meds
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>>560505705
the first playable version of tarkov was transparently an early access title, Marathon launched as a full game after almost as long in development as Tarkov (7+ years) and has 3 small maps, a dozen guns, and reskinned Cabal from Destiny as the PVE component.
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>>560505796
I don't know what's difficult about acquiring healing items, I just spam Rook and end up with rows full of them somehow. They kinda just show up on their own.

You can also farm healing pack things on the walls in certain rooms, I forget what they're called, but boxes with loads of healing items will show up. They're red boxes, you can't miss them.
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>>560506130
we don't know how many of those 7 years was actual development and how much was stuck in pre-production, expecting new games coming to market to have full content parity with games that have been on the market for almost a decade is unrealistic
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>>560506042
>finding something they really liked
Untrue, they literally settled on the hero shooter format in an effort to chase trends when they saw what was selling.
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>>560506154
Med cabinets. One pretty reliable spot is that one building near southwestern Complex which sometimes also spawns lockboxes, it's been a reliable place to check because people always ignore it for some reason.
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>>560506050
Volley Rifle is the best weapon in the game. Even without that, you need to be running SOMETHING with some range on it. Copperhead is also marginally better than bully but honestly not enough to make it worth using instead of selling.
Snipers and LMGs are also both good, even in solo.
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>>560506226
>expecting a dedicated multiplayer game to have more than 3 maps is unrealistic
I like the game but I have no choice but to believe that some of you guys are from /v/ and trying to behave like the most absurd strawmen imaginable to sabotage this games perception.
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>>560506317
Thank you. There's also one that spawns at the northwestern guarded exfil on Dire Marsh, the one just to the west of Greenhouse, it's directly in front of the ladder exit at the top.
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>>560506356
it's an extraction shooter not an arena shooter man
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>>560506050
>bully
>cheap
I still don't know why there's 2 prices on everything. It'd be nice if I could buy a 400cred bully, or a 180 credit green shield when its actually 900. blue shield is 2k for me for some reason.
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why does the best gun in the game cost 50 credits?
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Did my first two Rook runs. Both ended within 60 seconds by another Rook. I guess I was too kind to not chase down every Rook I see while playing trios, you're all bloodthirsty little fucks, huh
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>>560506809
I hopped into an exfil with another signal masked Rook and took him out, it's fun being bloodthirsty.
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>3:16 AM monday
>cross play on
>search solo
>over 2 minutes moth eating maggots
How many players on Swamp map solo, why do I have to wait so long for 12 or 15 people?
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>>560507046
i think it's 18, dawg.
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>>560507046
>3 am on a monday
>queue with significantly fewer active players than the default alternative
idk man what do you think is going on here
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>>560506809
this ain't Arc Raiders, nigga.
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>>560507140
>>queue with significantly fewer active players than the default
Only three maps in the game, thousands of players online. I can't get 15 people within 3 minutes?
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>>560507221
yes, most people are playing trios. you can tell by how much faster the queues pop when you fill.
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>>560507323
Ok, I'll wait for the solo rat nerds for 5 minutes
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>running fragile key
>take a decent green loadout
>kill a guy or two
>hit guarded extract
>drone around to look for anyone nearby
>fucking lightning hits me while I'm droning and kills me
I am fucking furious holy shit
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It's honestly baffling that solo lobbies have the same amount of players as trios. You get less XP for everything, have higher risk, and cannot do most map content or bosses. They gotta knock that shit down a bit.
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>>560507360
if you want something to do while you wait, set a stopwatch and record the time of day (or night in this case) and how long your queues take with a little notepad. then do the same with some fill queues and you'll see a huge difference. i've played like two dozen hours of solo queue, they take forever.
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>>560507457
>You get less XP for everything, have higher risk, and cannot do most map content or bosses.
It's for those who wanna do 1V1 Warzone shit and third party, without the group sex
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I spent 10 dollars on Crash Casket to nerf myself.
When do we get Vandal porn?
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These gun prices are batshit insane, why does the Copperhead cost 6k credits from a schema when it's only slightly better than the Bully? Why does the energy shotgun exist and cost 14k from schema while the double barrel is free every other day or sells for 6k? Why are half these guns not available in the store in the first place?
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>>560507162
>>560506902
I had generally only been killing Rooks if they tried some shit, and had heard that Rooks were generally friendly to each other. I will get back to my regularly scheduled hunting and killing of every other player I see, even if they're harmless and probably have no loot.
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Are people chatty when you fill or do enough people just silently ping stuff, I hate feeling obligated to talk in online games
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>>560507395
Lightning being a straight one shot seems maybe a little dumb, that shit should probably at max take you down to 1 hp unless you're standing on a fuckin lightning rod.
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>>560507395
Holy shit I thought lightning wasn't lethal.
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So if this is after marathon 1 then what the fuck is going on? Why is durandal speaking to us isnt he with the spht

https://youtu.be/fvbEnWLRo1s?si=KkLtuXpjFYbVmE4C
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>>560507671
>Are people chatty when you fill or do enough people just silently ping stuff
Most of the time they're not chatty, and are nooby. Expect them to last a minute or two, then they'll get slammed by a coordinated squad. You'll live if you stay away from them. If you see them moving like retards, and give in to the urge to help them, you will get sealclubbed too.
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>>560507849
Nah that shit will torch you if you don't respect it
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>>560507897
I want Vandal to sit on my face while talking to the screen
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Man I love Dire Marsh
>Be nigger sniping from the roofs
>Shoot some free kit vandal
>Immediately get nigger snipped from the flank
Wew.
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>>560507849
Damage falls off away from the center, so you can get a grazing hit and be EMP'd
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>>560507897
At this point I'm pretty sure it's in its own timeline
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>>560508389
Makes sense when they've already established those
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>>560507897
there's plenty of timeline fuckery in marathon already so I assume this is its own timeline
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>>560508006
>what if the big cool endgame content is locked off to like 80% of the player population
this is honestly worse than destiny raids because it's an entire map
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How's that implementation working out for you?
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>>560508467
>>560508496
Even without Infinity's timeline fuckery it'd probably just be the intelligent way to go.
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Bros where did the steamcharts posting go?
Is there some reason we aren't being flooded by it today?
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>>560505184
>get the contract for Outpost from Nona
>figure I'll just solo it like every other contract so far
>actually unless you bring in a full inventory of purples and somehow get 3 different keycards and hold back 18 waves on your own, it's straight up impossible for solos
Whelp back to making friends in fill trios on Dire and Perimeter in hopes that someday I'll be able to run outpost. Never going to be able to cryo. I haven't even seen a key yet.
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>>560507671
the game is destiny noobs 9/10
boomer casuals doing a quest the other time
the game is dead in the water because sci-fi nerds don't want to play some realistic creeper looter-shooter and realistic creeper looter shooters don't want to play apex legends
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>>560508671
Seriously why did they make this apex legends its all I think about when I play it lol
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>>560508671
>sci-fi nerds don't want to play some realistic creeper looter-shooter
Every single person I know who likes this game is a sci-fi nerd and that's absolutely something that they'd stereotypically be into.
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>>560507671
People are generally chatty yeah. You get some silent runners but mostly people pipe up if you do.
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>>560508632
all you need to do is grab a conveyance request and go in through drone wing
or wait for someone else to open pinwheel then go in and kill them (or more likely just go in because they died to AI)
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>>560508620
Juts give it an hour. I'm sure they'll be back with their reports of how Marathon is bleeding players every single day, no chance of recovery.
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>>560508795
Not to doompost on your kwab self but I stopped playing it already. There's not much content
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>>560508795
this but unironically
(it was me turning the corner with my knife)
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>>560508736
>every single person i know who likes this game is a sci-fi nerd
no shit, also obviously because you're a 4channer and nobody else is going to put up with you
>that's absolutely something that they'd stereotypically be into
nah, tarkov was for /k/tards, not soft-handed /g/beards
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>>560508895
>knives can 2 shot even golden shields
actually what did they mean by this
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>>560508671
>>560508706
>>560508736
Many of this games problems go away in solo queue, it stops being a battle royale and plays more like a proper extraction shooter. But solo queue has so many problems of its own (way too high player density for map size, inability for people to do most map events) that of course it's flawed.

But trios are awful yes.
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>>560509028
What they meant what "We don't know how to balance a PvP game, lets make a game heavily centered around it"
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>>560509028
Don't let someone run up on you. The great equalizer: a fat fuckin knife to the face. Feels incredible to do, thank fuck they made the knife actually useful.
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>>560508517
Instead of three rats, it's 1 big one
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>>560508775
Oh so there's more than one way in? I thought the trio of security clearances was the only way in.
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>>560509053
Maps are so small i think thats the worst part. Like I basically had all 3 maps memorized after a couple days of play and thats even pinwheel mechanics
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>>560509117
Bungie hasn't made a good PVP game since Halo 3, Destiny 2 became infamous for having literally one of the worst, most toxic, hellish PVP communities in gaming with Trials.
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>>560508775
They did not, in fact, die to ai.
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>>560508620
Chartfags surrendered, because they have no game, no skill, no money.
They melt away, because they see the game is being loved, it burns them.
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>>560509246
there were originally 3 ways in, but the destroyed wing was closed off when they realized it ruined the entire lobby
once someone opens pinwheel with the security clearances though you can take any of the secure entrances for free without fighting bots
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Me and who?
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>>560509332
trans vandal and queen of diapers CUTE
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>>560509332
I'm standing behind Vandal with my crotch next to her shoulder blades
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Game needs more guro porn.
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>>560508989
Unlike you, a strong and normal and manly man who's sitting on a 4chan general for a game he hates
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>>560503053
This fucking bitch
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>5 years ago
>you can just go into many games and have fun, even competitive element games like Overwatch
>current year
>the first advice given to new players picking up marathon is to spent 20 hours training their aim in aimlabs
when did gaming turn into a second job
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how do we unlock Kylo archive
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>dude adds me
>deletes me after a minute
???
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>>560509932
wait for bungies internal timer to expire and they declare the arg solved
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>>560508852
yeah its fun to boot up for a round or two but why am i grinding endless contracts for no discernable gameplay reason for a game that's not even in early access?

copying some random russian's half-finished borderline fraudulent homework is about par for the course in american design right now though, so i guess i shouldn't be surprised.
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>>560508736
i am a sci-fi nerd and i want this game to fail
i'm not a fan of multiplayer games in general, never played any extraction shooters and have no idea what destiny even is
i'm just mad this game isn't a single player
everything about the world speaks directly to me, i'm supposed to be the target audience for a setting like this
it felt like a kick in the nuts when i learned it's going to be another extraction shooter slop after watching the reveal trailer
so yeah, what >>560508671 said, people like me don't want to get into this GaaS hamster wheel, so at least i'm getting some fun out of watching the player numbers go down and bungie devs panicking over upcoming layoffs
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>Slide cancel works on Thief only, you have to shoot the grapple hook at the ground and jump before reaching the point
>Long slide on Vandal only, can't shoot during the long slide
Warzone slide-cancel ranked bros... How the fuck should I cope
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>>560509773
is it really that painful for you to be made self-aware
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>>560510163
why do you keep posting this random image taken of your hours in a shit game
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>>560510316
There was someone from /codg/ here before, that's my original home
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this game should've had a singleplayer or PvE campaign. the world and aesthetics are so fucking good man, it's a shame that it's been wasted on current the GaaS trend extraction shooter
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>get out of pinwheel with a decent haul
>dash to the final exfil, waiting to get teleported out
>grenadier standing on a roof arcs some perfect shots from behind cover, somehow downs all three of us almost instantly
>still waiting on the 30 sec exfil
>it actual manages to kill one of the randoms
It was his first time getting to command and he had purple shields and god knows what else, I'd be on suicide watch
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Real story, I told my team to tell me if they find lore audio tapes and they laughed at me

Nah I’m just kidding it’s not a real story
But….
Nah not.
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>>560510485
That's amazing
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>hit lvl 40
>all of a sudden i'm versing purple shield premades every fucking game, even on perimeter
I literally can't do my contracts anymore. I never exfil anymore. What the fuck is this.
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>other people get to command wing and open the chest
>400 billion purples, every single folio contains a legendary weapon mod, the bots genuflect on the floor and offer up blues, every arms locker has the rarest guns in the game, boss chest is full of a dozen different purple shields and rare lore collectables
>I loot the command wing solo
>some unstable biomass, two blue machine guns (no shield mods btw), some pocket lint
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>>560510650
So the level based matchmaking is rael?
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>>560510724
It has to be. It's been like this for two days now ever since I hit level 40. EVERY game is full of premades with purple shields, even on perimeter. I can't do my FUCKING CONTRACTS
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so is the meta for playing solo just to sit and hide for the first 10 minutes of the match and watch something on your phone while you wait for everyone to kill eachother?
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If they don't fix how awful this game feels for casuals, I'm gonna join /dg/ in hatewatching this game's playercount.
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Doesn’t anyone else feel like 95% of the Contractor skill trees are useless?

Like I know they can’t be too game breaking, but even cores and implants are useless.
I haven’t played a match where I thought,
>oh man lucky I had +30 on the siphon there that really saved me
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>>560510650
So, as I've discovered recently and as you may see from others ITT or on reddit in increasing numbers, it's clear now that sub level 25 is some sort of separate matchmaking queue. That's were most of the casuals and dad gamer types that made the game actually fun to play are, that's where the few lobbies I had where people randomly collaborated were.

Once you breach that level threshold, the level based matchmaking either complete breaks or is flatly turned off. I am routinely seeing level 30's getting matched with level 60's, people with free kits getting matched with purple wearing streamer style groups that literally kill everyone else on the map before doing anything else.

Unless they change something or add some sort of sbmm this game is going to rapidly die because of this, I went from exfilling like 70% of all matches in the first week to like a 30-40% success rate because of this.
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>>560510147
For me its not novel enough to play constantly and I have games with better gunplay. If there were like 7 maps on launch and a bunch of cool shit to fuck around with sure id play but you can tell this is extremely early access when they dont even have a cosmetic shop to suck in pay piggies. They must have rushed this shit out asap with only making some money on their minds as a hail mary. Cryo archives will be novel for a week and then everyone's going to wait for dire marsh but lol night and like thats just not enough
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>>560510880
Melee damage and agility matter.
Cores start to get pretty good at blue and above.
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>>560510868
>sit and hide for the first 10 minutes of the match and watch something on your phone while you wait for everyone to kill eachother?
For contracts, yes. For loot, you can rush closer to the middle of the map, then stop, to listen for a chance to third party, or catch someone.
You can also go for easier kills at early exfils, the people who aren't very good, go to the first exfils. Circle around that area, to make sure someone else isn't close, and kill the one who is going towards the exfil.
When you have open space, it's ok to run around, you just gotta stop and wait, before entering close quarters areas.
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>>560506713
the top price next to weapon type is the value of the weapon if you were to sell it. price on bottom is cost to acquire from whatever vendor you're using
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>>560510884
To add onto this, I'm nearly certain that this (the game post level 25 in trios turning into a literal battle royale with such an obscene skill ceiling that its impossible to play unless you're a god) was not intended design by Bungie. I've heard a lot of stuff out of playtests and seen a lot of footage of them, nobody behaved like this, teams seemed to never just roam the map seeking to kill everyone else. In fact, all the footage seemed to show people looting maybe 1-2 POIs, maybe getting into a single teamfight, then exfiling.

I have no idea how they'll be able to fix this, in their own marketing they seemed to expect people to slowly build their vaults and shit across a season and then spend the rare shit closer to the wipe, but the game has turned into this in two weeks.
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>>560510884
>as you may see from [retards speculating about matchmaking algorithms]
I really do not understand how people can be on the internet for more than like six months and not learn to dismiss all of these people.

Personally, I'm level 50 and encountering purple shields is still a rarity. There's probably some sort of weighting to the matchmaking but it's far from absolute.
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>>560508632
Haven't tested this yet, but I heard earlier today that if you start the breach, then you can just go to another entrance to avoid the fighting off AI part. So you're away from the noise and leave a blockade of shit for someone else that might've tried to follow you. I imagine if you're playing Vandal/Thief you can just walk to another entrance and once the breach is done, enter through the escape hatches right next to the elevator and immediately head up.
Alternatively there's the Drone Conveyance Request you can find in random places rarely that will lower an elevator from the Drone Wing - it's slow as fuck and has no cover, but doesn't open up a path for anyone else.
I've breached/drone wing'd/destroyed wing entered solo quite a few times, and usually have the most success just running a sponsor kit so there's no real threat of failure.
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>Pinwheel
>can hear trio on comms
>they’re debating with rook
>can hear they’re recruiting him
>can’t go down the back exit, too far from final exfil
>chase this team out to the final exfil
>can see it in the distance
>another team sitting on the roof taking sniper shots and both our teams (my trio, this pinwheel trio with a rook)
>corner of my eye, can see another rook dashing for the exfil
>UESC sucker bots above latching onto people
>proxy chat sounds like a nightclub brawl
>none of the other teams make it out except ours

I swear this game has some sort of algorithm to balance out horrendous runs with stupid dumb fun YouTube clip moments minutes later where you come out with 20k.
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>>560511138
>speculating
It's really not speculation, you never see anybody in the level 10-20 range get matched with anyone higher leveled unless they're in a premade duo. After that all bets are off, I got matched with a level 63 guy an hour ago while I'm level 32.
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>>560511192
The reason extraction shooters work so well is that they just naturally create that variance
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>>560511156
yeah once someone opens the door to pinwheel it unlocks the other door as well. Given how many bots spawn in, it probably isn't even that much slower.
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>>560511192
I have literally never spoken to another person outside my team once and I have over 65 hours, and trust me I try, especially with rooks
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>>560511113
>the game post level 25 in trios turning into a literal battle royale with such an obscene skill ceiling that its impossible to play unless you're a god
This isn't really true, I'm level 40 and dire marsh is the only map that's really cancer like this. Perimeter still has loads of shitters and Outpost is more about positioning/game sense than how well you aim. I've never played an extraction shooter before this one but I feel like I have a reasonably good winrate in trios.
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>>560509840
:3
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>>560511462
I think you're full of shit. Shut the fuck up.
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Outpost (the Outposts I guess I should say since there are multiple ones) were once at least partly spacecraft, correct? Some sort of orbital infrastructure that then had additional infrastructure built around them?
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>>560511113
>nobody behaved like this, teams seemed to never just roam the map seeking to kill everyone else.
This happened because the audio changes let everyone hear each other fight and in a typical pavlovian response every fortnite/warzone/apex DEMON unleashed his third party katana of woe since they've done it 1000000000 other times. Thats why the game immediately went from tactical spooky shoot shoot run run into mini putt gaypex legends. You cant give BR veterans a br and not expect them to immediately meta the fucj out of it.

What bungie needs to do is make the ai even harder and make them aggressive as fuck. They should be patrolling for you not just sitting there like retards and they should be actively hunting for runner squads. This will make the map naturally hostile as shit so people can't just storm it 3 stacked with shotty snipers
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>multiple anons and people on reddit talking about how the games become much sweatier and more difficult once you reach a certain level
>"UM ACTUALLY THERE'S NO PROOF OF LEVEL-BASED MATCHMAKING YOU'RE JUST SPECULATING"
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>>560511601
They should make the AI harder in trios and leave it in its current state in solo.

I don't get why they refuse to do separate balancing.
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>>560511192
>>560511381
Same, the only thing other teams/solos/rooks say in response to me is always either bitch, retard, pussy, or (if I beat them) loser.
>shut up bitch
>fight me pussy
>i win retard
>fuck you loser
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are other people having to regularly sell their patch kits/shield charges to make vault space or am i playing the game wrong?
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>>560511601
>They should be patrolling for you not just sitting there like retards and they should be actively hunting for runner squads. This will make the map naturally hostile as shit so people can't just storm it 3 stacked with shotty snipers
Would be great. But will filter out even more people. UESC being more active will make it so sometimes you have to cancel an ambush, but if the other guy notices you and starts shooting, both of you are gonna get patrolled to death.
I'd still play.
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>>560511738
I want you to explain to me very carefully why you believe level-based matchmaking doesn't exist despite multiple accounts suggesting it does. Do you think that LBMM is not possible? It sounds completely possible.
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>>560511793
I have seen zero evidence that it exists, certainly not as some strict absolute as you seem to imply.
>multiple people have said this!!!!!
Is not evidence, and people trick themselves into insane delusions when it comes to matchmaking algorithms literally all the fucking time.
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I love how everyone calls Rook players “Rook”.

>ROOK YOU FUCKING RETARD HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE PINWHEEL RAID BY YOURSELF
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>>560510974
My guess is that they were pitching a longer-haul to Sony to complete the rest of the game and Sony said no, so this is the compromised vision. There'll be at least one significant update to include the cosmetics shop or a large paid DLC/expansion, but after that I presume the game will be abandoned even if it finds middling success because its not the game Bungie actually intended to release. Nothing about this game - aside from the Destiny live-balance operations apparatus - is tuned to Bungie's strengths, it's as out of left field as Nightreign. I suppose this is all related to the ownership struggle and Destiny croaking overnight. Their finances are probably a mess, and this is something just to get revenue on the books.
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>>560511869
Okay, you've failed to explain why it wouldn't exist. You're ignored.
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>>560511619
>>multiple anons and people on reddit talking about how the games become much sweatier
Which game, Marathon or Arc? Both are saying the same shit. Difficulty is spiking.
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I personally only see evidence of matchmaking with YOUR random trio, and only because they have similar level quests and activated liaison nodes.

It seems though if you’re having a few bad runs, say about 5-7, the game puts you in maps where the player/team/rook count is halved.

Thats what I’ve noticed.
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>>560511662
The AI should have objectives or unique behaviors if they want me to believe this isn't being developed on a desolate farm in Russia.

Why do they all do the same spiderweb spread formation and then beeline to me every single time? What is the UESC doing on this planet? Don't they have files to retrieve or loot to sort? Shouldn't the cloaked hunters be... hunting specific runners or something?

They really just set the bar for completion wherever Tarkov left it without thinking about it twice. Such corporate design-by-committee garbage.
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>>560512023
>What do you mean people learn as they play the game? Everybody should stay scrub as I do and learn nothing.
These people should not be taken seriously.
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>>560511920
>ROOK YOU FUCKING RETARD HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE PINWHEEL RAID BY YOURSELF
with the power of claymores and allah on my side, anything is possible.
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is there anything more exhausting than nerds with no academic background in math, comp sci, or econ with "they're totally hacking" energy discussing matchmaking or other server-side tech? just please for the love of god, shut the fuck up
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is the new cope really "there's no point at which the level based matchmaking (confirmed by bungie btw) breaks down, stop trusting your lying eyes"? what is this shill, part of the white house media team lmao
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>>560512154
I haven’t seen not one team hacking so far.

Fortnite, Modern warfare II, it’s pretty bad there.

Though I did see one veeery questionable flick from a Triage shooting at a teammate and then directly to me hiding behind cover, but that’s about it.

I think devs started putting in stuff like Recon in games to essentially level the field between cheaters and players.
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>>560511937
Whining that it can't be disproved is not evidence of it being real
Come back when there is literally any non-anecdotal evidence of any kind
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Still haven’t seen that cat.
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>reddit reddit reddit reddit
PLEASE go back
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>>560512376
I just said you're ignored. But give me another (You).
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I believe Marathon has a matchmaking algorithm without priority tuning. It considers connection waiting times and levels, but not heavily.
I also believe that level 30s with blues and greens are able to kill level 60s with purples, and they simply don't know what levels they have killed.
Most of the players are not good enough to kill sweats who run green, of course they're not gonna be able to kill "mid" players who happen to have purples, either bought with money or located in the aftermath.
In conclusion, many people think that it's the matchmaking throwing them as food for sweats, and they don't realize, that they are dying to "mid" players with purples.
While actual sweats would kill those purples, using green and blue gear.
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>>560512242
it's retards with too much time on their hands
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So all these colonists left scribbled on the wall over the aliens they encountered instead of leaving detailed distress calls?
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>>560512635
do you ever stop to think about things or do you just spew the first thing that comes to mind?
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>>560512635
>instead of leaving detailed distress calls?
We came here because of a distress call
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>>560512592
The difference between "the sweat that loaded into the lobby with purples" and "the sweat that pilfered a purple while wearing a green" is fundamentally zero to all other players in the lobby.
The net result is the same: a menace that effortlessly sweeps the lobby.
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People complain about playing against purples? How else are you gonna get their loot?
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>>560512635
By that point most have gone insane turned into monsters or were put onto servers by AI. Multiple codex audios show they even made cults worshipping the Sphit.
During the first invasion the colonist fought back but three months later the Phor or whatever they're called invaded again.
All the humans that weren't captured and enslaved went the routes I mentioned earlier.
It took a hundred years for the UESC to arrive and the another 30 for us to appear as aRunners
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ROOKED
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>>560512151
5 stacks of claymores and seven trap bags
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alright is there a place where i can read all of the marathon lore or do i have to collect it in snippets, i want to read it please spoonfeed me im begging
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I'm thinking about making a guide how to use Recon to go aggressive from 0 to 100.
How should I do it, with fights against every shell? Should it be on different maps, or the same map would be fine?
I love playing Recon so much.
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>>560513086
Codex on the main menu, anon.
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>>560513201
i was thinking more of a hub website where some maniac has gone ahead and collected it all in one place but i'll go collect it myself thanks
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>>560512902
They don't want loot, they just want to shoot bots for 20 minutes and then go home. Anyone who dares to interrupt this sacred ritual is a nefarious sweat.
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I just want to get all the Rook upgrades so I can Rook. All I want to do is Rook. I don’t care about loot or cosmetics or any other retarded bullshit like that. I just want to Rook.
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>>560513282
I don't believe so. It'll probably happen eventually given how attached to marathon.bungie.org/story people have been for the old marathon lore
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>>560511381
>Never have Proximity chat on
>Hear teammate laughing
>"The rook was pleading for his life hahaha"
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>>560513086
For the classic Marathon games, it's all on https://marathon.bungie.org/story/
I don't think all the new stuff has been recorded yet, at least not in one place. It'll probably be on the wiki soon.
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Vandal's ass on my face
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>>560513589
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>queue for 5 minutes
>fill with randos
>have to wait while PC farts load in with their ancient HDD they refuse to upgrade
>teammates each ping polar opposite locations on the map to go to
>can now move that the PC fats are loaded in
>both teammates start shooting their guns as soon as they see UESC/Bugs
>lobby descends on us within seconds, downs and rapes us all with no condoms
>total time in run less than 2 minutes
>queue up to do it again as I have now acquired a taste for Big Vandal Cock in my ass

so this is the power of Marathon, impressive
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>heh so there's this permanent toxin
>no we won't warn you that's a thing
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I played Marathon for 3 hours today and after this session I don't think I'm going to keep playing. If you're not in a premade, this game just isn't fun.
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>>560512901
>The difference between "the sweat that loaded into the lobby with purples" and "the sweat that pilfered a purple while wearing a green" is fundamentally zero
Not always. A very good player capable of doing that can be in the level 30 range, and lvl 50+ players can be average, they just spent more time collecting, they failed more, but they also collected more.
Level is not a good indicator of skill. Someone who spent more time collecting items and doing objectives, isn't better at PvP with someone with less hours, if the player with less hours practiced PvP only.
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do you guys think we will be able to rook into cryo? i hope so
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>>560513729
Stop making us console niglets look bad. I like our fellow PC whites
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How is Cryo? Is it going to break 100k players? Did it fix everything?
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>>560513996
refer to >>560508006
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>>560512901
>>560513953
>matchmaking is level based
>that means shitters who don’t improve or people who come back to the game after a break are going to get put in the endless sweat rape chamber
>spending their time collecting loot for their betters
holy shit that’s funny
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Our game filters people too hard. It's both funny and sad.
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>>560508006
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LET ME FUCKING ROOK IN CRYO YOU BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>560508006
what were they actually thinking when they decided this?
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>>560514160
After fighting both sides in the slam tests, I decided I'm not gonna do quests. I'm not gonna buy nice shit just in case I bump into someone better than me. And when I bump into a casual, I take any nice things he has.
Zero work on this game from me, all I do is steal and sometimes die.
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crazy that cryo actually is just a premade sweat playground
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I’m so bad at this game. I keep getting milked like a slut in solos.
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>>560514613
to the surprise of absolutely no one
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>Heh so you know that cool end game loot you worked hard to get?
>Yeah we arbitrarily decided you need a rare one off consumable to actually take it home

Actually kill and rape all bungie employees
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>>560514754
Punishing and hardcore. Elite game.
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>pve extraction shooters are what everyone wants
>bungie makes marathon instead as a pvp apex legends clone with light pve elements
>ends up getting outsold by escape from duckov

they can bluster all they want about how Marathon has some grand vision, how they're never ever going to change matchmaking or tone down the pvp. But the reality is Marathon sold poorly even within its genre and Bungie's operating costs are so insane that smol indie game with 40k players (unrealistic copium optimistic numbers) in a month won't let them survive.
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The jump from blue to pruple feels so much bigger than green to blue.
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>freaks are loading into outpost with blue gear
>to hunt me across the map for my two grey v11s
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>>560514996
What on earth do you mean by “tone down the pvp?” This is intrinsically a pvp game. Otherwise it’s just fetch quests and like four enemy types. This game would literally be pointless without the pvp. You just want this game to be something it’s not. Like damn, they really need to tone down the racing in this new Forza game.
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PLEASE GOD LET CRYO BE STUPID HARD AND PLEASE LET THERE BE RED RARITY WEAPONS!!!!
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nah i'm done with this game. if i wanted to play a battle royale i'd play fortnite or some shit. this isn't an extraction shooter once you get to lobbies where everyone has purple loot. every squad is just running around the map PvPing.
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>>560514996
>smol indie game with 40k players (unrealistic copium optimistic numbers) in a month won't let them survive.
Bungie is working on a PS6(six) exclusive game. Bungie isn't going anywhere, because Bungie's logo is wanted for the next console. If the next console game flops, that's when they might get clubbed.
You can't compare Marathon to Concord, because Bungie is a big name. Big name will be used for the next console.
The only people who are gonna cope, are the ones thinking Bungie will die, before releasing a PS6 exclusive.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-04/sony-pulls-back-from-playstation-games-on-pc
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Bungie is now a PS6(six) slave, because building, pr upgrading PC became too expensive.

The doomposters are fucked.
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Damn this might be my last Bungie game then. Because I’m almost certainly not gonna get a PS6.
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Once you realise this game is only meant to be played in tryhard trios, all your complaints will be resolved.
The game loop is as such: you queue with your sweaty squad, you try to kill the entire lobby, then once there's no more danger you can start looting the map and do quests.
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>>560510884
>>560511113
That's pure fabrication, I've been shat on by purple trios below level 25 and I still see healthy mixes of gear/skill in players. People today have on average better shields than at launch but that's normal gear inflation.
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>>560515661
It's crazy how night and day this game is compared to Arc. When compared to Arc, this game just looks like an Apex clone.
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Bungie is alive not because "Marathon is trying to keep the studio alive", but because Bungie is making a new AAA game for PS6(also available on PS Five).

Are PC bros ready for the announcement next year? I am.
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>>560515693
>normal gear inflation
hey well guess what buddy. that "normal gear inflation" is ruining the game for casuals and it's the reason this game is bleeding thousands of players each day. see you in 6 months.
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>>560515330
>bungie is working on a PS6 exclusive game
this is literally meaningless given how the games industry works with cancellations constantly
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something is seriously wrong with the inventory management system in this game when i actively dread picking up a new purple material because it just takes up way too much vault space
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>>560515707
Arc looks like nothing though. It's aimless slop where the devs didn't even know what they wanted to make.
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>>560515764
Literally just rook once and you are geared, but hey, that's a hard concept for someone who doesn't play the game.
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>>560515752
I don't care about Bungie. I never played Halo, I ever owned an xbox. Marathon is my first Bungie game.
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>>560515891
there's not gonna be many playing the game in 6 months buddy ;)
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>>560515783
>this is literally meaningless
It means Bungie can't die, until they shit out one more game, for the new console(will also be available on the current console).
Bungie exists for a console right now, not for making big bucks from Marathon.
If Marathon goes EOS right now, Bungie will continue to work for the new console.
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Well I hope Bungie’s PS6 game is either a new IP or Marathon related. Let Destiny be dead.
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>indian hours
>thread fills up with the most insane shills babbling about some unannounced PS6 game as proof Bungie is fine and denial of the level based matchmaking system
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>>560515939
>dead on arrival!
>dead in 2 weeks!!
>dead in 2 months!!
now 6 months. wonder why real madrid hasn't hired the chuds yet due to their astounding ability to move goalposts
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https://streamable.com/d854hy

I'm not mad, I'm not mad, this is okay, I'm not mad
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>>560516195
keep sucking on that copium lil bro
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>>560515891
>just rook bro
nta but this isn't really a solution given the new meta forming of Rook's being exterminate on sight by trios (who camp exfils) and even other Rooks (who also camp exfils).
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>>560516106
Dunno about that, if Sony decides not to risk it, they're gonna market Destiny Three.
And if they do, that will probably come to PC.
If it's a new IP, it's gonna get locked to the console for a long time.
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>>560516129
Part of the problem is that this general has been filled with people endlessly speculating on the success/failure of Marathon and doomsayers predicting the death of Bungie. Literally hundreds and hundreds of posts on the topic. The /mg/ regulars are probably just bored of the topic, to be honest. There’s really nothing left to be said.
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>>560516309
Your incessant defense of this game is more cringe than the chartposters.

You have to admit that this game feels fucking awful for casuals. You are not a casual, evidently by the fact that you're so invested in this game. You don't understand how horrible the experience is. Fact is, this experience will be the death of the game. Marathon will end up like Destiny.
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>>560516309
I just want to talk about the game itself, but it's becoming almost a secondary topic in the thread itself. This game really did break some people, huh?
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>>560516309
My guy the person you're replying to is exactly who you're describing
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>>560516195
>lost a third of its playerbase in two weeks
yeah you sure showed him
>>560516309
this general is completely inorganic yes, but the shills here are particularly egregious to the point that even well meaning critique (like how ass the level based matchmaking system is and how the game needs skill based matchmaking before it dies entirely by alienating all the casuals) immediately gets the most insane denials.
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>>560516236
I'll pass the copium to you
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>>560516371
>modern 4chan absolutely seething and pissing its pants because a game isn't made for casuals
lmao. aren't you embarrassed to be this bad at video games?
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>>560516476
here's the (You) you're craving for with that post
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>>560516371
>Your incessant defense of this game is more cringe than the chartposters.
Not at all lmao
Look at this shit, yeah the game has flaws and people who dont accept it are retards too but you can't even compare it, the chartposters are actually mentally ill

https://files.catbox.moe/qr5s4y.mp4
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>>560516371
>You have to admit that this game feels fucking awful for casuals.
NTA, why does every game have to be good for casuals. Just because this game was expensive to make, it has to be casual friendly?
I don't give a fuck how much money Sony and Bungie lost.
I don't care how long they can keep the game alive. I'm liking the game right now.
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>>560516372
It's not "becoming" anything, these fags have been shitting up the generals for literally the entire lifespan of the game. This is business as usual. I'd like to believe they'll eventually get bored when they find their next tortanic to fixate but apparently some of them have a personal investment in Bungie's failure so I doubt we'll be so lucky.
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>>560513282
I got u senpai

Check THIS shot out

https://timeline.bumgie.org/

You like that huh
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>>560516390
Wasn't it supposed to be a Concord 3? Meaning 500 players and a shutdown in 2 weeks?
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>>560516523
don't click
pp grabber
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>>560516496
>craving for
good morning rajesh. can you explain to me why the fuck i'm supposed to care if casuals are having fun?
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>>560516205
lmao owned
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>>560516390
>but the shills
What shills, my niggerino... It's a couple of keyboard nolifers(with nice vaults) and a console guy(racist but acts like a negroid).
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>>560516508
You wanna know why a game has to be good for casuals? Because you won't have a fucking playerbase otherwise. It will end up like Destiny where the only people still playing it are the diehard fans who've been playing for over a decade at this point and refuse to give it up.

If that's something you want, then sure. But you better enjoy long queue times and feeling sweaty after each match is finished.

>>560516561
ignored
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>>560516561
Because you are a nice person who cares about others and not a selfish ghoul
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>>560516372
I guess so. I don’t really know why to be honest. It’s just one live service game in an ocean of them these days. If you don’t like this one, then just pick another one. I can only assume the doomsayer anons who come into this thread to repeat the same shit endlessly are either completely mindraped shitters or pure attention whores.
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made the perfect pinwheel heist only to die to bungie physics
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>>560516561
>why the fuck i'm supposed to care if casuals are having fun?
>>560516628
>You wanna know why a game has to be good for casuals? Because you won't have a fucking playerbase otherwise.
But bro... I don't care what happens to the game later, I like it now. I don't want it to change.
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Thermal sniper scipes feel worse than regular ones after the nerf. The range on the heat signature is so short and the purple filter obscures everything else beyond it. Thermals are good only on the close range weapons.
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>>560516256
I have played this game for 40 hours and I have never seen a trio camp an exfil. I can count on my hand the number of times I've been jumped by a rook at an exfil.
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I've played 29 hours and 90% of the time I camped exfil.
Why yes, I am a spiteful subhuman who just wants to torture other players.
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>>560516390
>lost a third of its playerbase in two weeks
Are you new to game dev? That's a pretty good number
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>>560516705
My god just stop engaging with the attention whore, we have the exact same circular argument with this faggot in every single thread. You won't change his mind because he doesn't actually have any sincere beliefs, he just wants to shit on the game.
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>>560516530
No, as I said back then, Bungie was clever enough to (deceptively) market the game by prioritizing the lore and aesthetics above all. They saw Arc Raiders success, but clearly didn't have enough dev time or money to completely pivot again to that, and so they added an unbalanced half broken solo queue as a stopgap in the hopes they could rework things later down the line. The game actually underperformed to what I thought (I had guessed at a minimum 100k peak on steam) but the experience of simply playing told me everything I need to know.

In the first few days of the game there was an interesting mix of people in lobbies, I even once ran into a friendly lobby that tried to get the Sekiguchi Intro done on the day Outpost came out. The game was dangerous but people were playing it as an extraction shooter, trying to loot and exfil.

All that's gone now, everybody plays the game like it's a deathmatch instead of an extraction shooter.
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>>560516787
>Are you new to game dev? That's a pretty good number
It depends ENTIRELY on how good the marketing was before launch. It varies from game to game, there is no clear "that's a good number."
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Not only does this game manage to induce salt in those who play it, but also in those who don't play it. What jutsu is this?
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>>560516880
The Bungie Effect
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>>560516827
>You won't change his mind because he doesn't actually have any sincere beliefs
I would be happy if someone else is reading this too. I want them to know the truth. I try my best to make the experience worse for casual players.
I camp so hard, it's like I'm playing Warzone ranked.
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>>560516628
so you're a sony shareholder, right? because the only reason to be so passionate about playercounts is if you play the game (you don't), you own stock, or you're a casual who's bad at video games. i'm assuming you're just a passionate investor!
>>560516705
that's a grammatically correct question sanjay, kindly do the needful and continue to redeem ESL courses
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>>560516880
bungie rape victims
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>>560516628
>It will end up like Destiny where the only people still playing it are the diehard fans who've been playing for over a decade at this point and refuse to give it up.
Which is how it'll usually stay decent in terms of community at the very least. Having an absolutely massive player base does jack shit, if it's infested with the most retarded subhumans on the planet. That is what popularity and casuals bring to these types of games. The issue of Destiny has never really been it's player population either, it's been Bungie literally running it to the ground over the years.
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>Be me
>Warzone rat
>Try Marathon slam test
>Camping and soundwhoring works
>No SBMM
>Marathon became my main game, just to ruin it for those, who care to try and exfil
>If someone cares about playing, and wants to keep stuff, I will RAPE and DEMORALIZE
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This is the one game I want to be flooded with casuals and even go F2P because it means more retards in matches for me to rape and less sweats to rape me.
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>>560516907
You’re only gonna face each player once though. So you’re really not making their experience much worse overall. You’re just one time that they got killed. Mostly likely they won’t even remember it.
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>>560516936
>so you're a sony shareholder, right? because the only reason to be so passionate about playercounts is if you play the game (you don't), you own stock, or you're a casual who's bad at video games. i'm assuming you're just a passionate investor!
This is a total non-response. No, I'm not a shareholder. I'm someone who likes quick queue times and you should be too.

>>560516948
>Which is how it'll usually stay decent in terms of community at the very least. Having an absolutely massive player base does jack shit, if it's infested with the most retarded subhumans on the planet. That is what popularity and casuals bring to these types of games. The issue of Destiny has never really been it's player population either, it's been Bungie literally running it to the ground over the years.
I really don't want this game to end up like Destiny's playerbase, but it's looking like it's headed there.
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>>560516936
>kindly do the needful and continue to redeem ESL courses
I'm not ESL, I'm a little uneducated. I slept in class during highschool, and never went to college. I have inheritance money. Fuck working and fuck schooling.
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>>560517035
>You’re just one time that they got killed. Mostly likely they won’t even remember it.
Someone will remember it, someone will die to multiple rats, not just me. I'm a plus one on that list, to really demoralize the player.
It all adds up.
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So, there is runors the new map is supposed to be based off of Norse Mythology. It should introduce some interesting lore. It would also confirm the rumors that the first collab that Marathon is getting is in fact God of War.
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>>560515840
something you're gonna have to store for a long time being 4 squares is pretty annoying
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Every exfil camper in every match, is working together. They just don't realize it.
Destroying people's experience by killing them every time.
One camper this game, another rat in the other match.
It all adds up.
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i'm gonna start playing like an absolute scumbag in every game, ruining casuals' experiences, just so this game loses players faster and i can laugh as this general has a meltdown over it.
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More tips to survive Tau Ceti:

- if you’re new focus on sponsored kit runs until you fill your vault and learn the maps, then try using some gear. If you lose it, rinse repeat :).
-smokes, invis, and signal jammers significantly reduce or remove AA on you (if the other player is using a controller)
- signal jammers pretty much render you almost invisible to thermal scopes, but also make you undetectable to turrets, tads, and other detection methods.
- the slower you move the less you can be seen in invis, stopping entirely makes you invisible.
- you can use MCH kits to reduce heat buildup from the fire rain on outpost, or remove the debuff from overheating
- pay attention to weapon chip mods, they hold really valuable perks, like reloading stowed weapons, for example
- being in water increases your speed of heat regeneration and reduces heat buildup. Couching also increases heat regeneration. Crouch in water and you regen heat the fastest.

And just remember:

- it’s not always about being the first to kill. It’s more often about being the one to live. (No shame in running when you don’t think you can win.)
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>>560517110
Honestly I doubt it. but you do what you gotta do.
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>every person itt and on reddit commenting about suddenly running into a brick wall in terms of getting matchmade against continual hypersweats post level 30 is clearly lying
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>>560517297
actually boggles my mind how that one anon refuses to believe it even though it's an entirely plausible matchmaking system
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>average session length 2 hours at game launch
>average session length 1 hour after cooldown
>"playerbase" drops by 50%
chuds didn't get far in math did they
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>>560517297
correct, it happens earlier than 30
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>still no sales milestone announcements
uhhh bros?
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Jesus, what is this, the bait olympics?
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>>560517297
>>every person itt
Pick a location for me on Perimeter, and one on Dire Marsh. I'll kill everyone in the part of the map you choose.
This way you will know the game isn't too sweaty, and redditors are retarded.
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This really feels like a game which was designed around you constantly having at least two other friends available to play with at all times.

I've played Marathon for around 50 hours now, and the only time I really enjoyed myself is when I played with two of my mates. Any time I have played this game either alone or with strangers, it was an absolutely miserable experience - safe for a few tiny exceptions.

It's clear this game was designed with group-play as the focus, but holy shit it just doesn't work out with randoms at all most of the time. You're basically playing russian-roulette with your gear every single time you play trio-fill alone and god help you if you get the guy who immediately upon round-start pings his objective and starts bee-lining towards it, no fucks given about the rest of the team or what the optimal route would be to make everybody on the team feel content.

Solos was tacked on as a gimmick I feel like because nothing gameplay-wise got adjusted to the solo-experience. I read posts from a lot of people praising this mode for the "survival horror" feel and the "stealthy gameplay" - which is understandable, people's tastes differ but I bought this game advertising itself as a PvP FPS shooter and not the next Dishonored or Outlast where you're forced to crouch-walk around the entire map and don't you dare fire your weapon at some AI enemies, let alone alert them whilest moving around a POI - because that means you're a bad player and don't know how to play apparently.

Almost all of my solo-rounds end in me getting 100 to 0'd in less than a blink of an eye by someone who sat crouched in a corner somewhere - thrilling gameplay.

I really like the game at its core, it's got interesting lore I want to uncover, the gunplay is amazing and the progression systems feel nice and rewarding, but I cannot bring myself to play it if both of my teammates aren't online to work together towards a shared goal and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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>>560517443
I can leave a better taste in your mouth, anon ;)
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Why do I need to lose all my stuff on the Season reset? Why do I need to grind again?
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>>560517441
I'll bust all over you first. You don't get to choose.
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>>560517443
Your post should be screenshotted because you've hit the nail on the head. This game is not fun unless you're in a premade.
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who the fuck brings purple shields to Perimeter
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>>560517504
>Without it runners would accumulate insurmountable power advantages
I'm not joking, can someone please tell these very kind, very wise developers that this already happened less than a week after launch and this in fact just punishes people who play more casually since they have to spend weeks/months grinding that streamers and sweats get done in a fraction of the time?
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>>560517543
People who have a contract on Perimeter and want to make sure they don't die?
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>>560515843
If you've actually played Arc you'd know this game is closer to aimless slop than it. This game is just Apex but extraction shooter, which fits my personal tastes better but it's behind Arc in almost every actual aspect imaginable except for hitreg. You still trade in this game occasionally but people don't die in Marathon full 2 seconds after eating a headshot from Anvil because of how awful the servers are.
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>No shame in running when you don’t think you can win.
lil blud really thinks i'll let him run away
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Bungie should just let me, and only me, play as Mjolnir Recon Number 54 with the dual lever-action shotguns so I can zip zoom around killing gamerboys all day.
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>>560517771
Once you're geared enough you do this in every single extraction shooter.
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>>560517639
Marathon is purely a squad pvp game. It's not slop. It's just sloppy in its presentation and makes people think they can play it solo or casually.
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>we need to wipe every 3 months to stop the elite players from gaining a perma advantage
>all the top streamers and top players were running around in full golds and purples day 3
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>>560517824
No one plays like this in Arc.
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I swear people think we are stupid.

That we are supposed to forget the years of exploiting and mining their audience for money and underdelivering on purpose to keep us on a hook of cope that one day they might give us something we deserve.

We are supposed to forget, right?
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erm. why did that post get deleted?
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>>560517824
>week one and a half into a three month wipe cycle
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>>560517860
>We are supposed to forget, right?
Do whatever you want nigga
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>>560517824
anon the game has been out for 2 weeks
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>>560517849
arc is not an extraction shooter
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>Everyone says game is full of tryhards
>This means I should not be able to get kills and extract
Ok, pick which part of the map I should go to. Where will I fail to kill and extract?
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>load into outpost with duo
>running free kits
>we try to figure out pinwheel for the first time
>loot around airfield a bit
>loot trapbag
>tiny backpack so I kinda place it in some doorway and forget it
>we get into pinwheel and its a clusterfuck dont even know were to loot
>bumble around in there grabbing anything we see
>suddenly hit marker on screen, downed player so and so
>player so and so bleeds out and dies to the mighty bag, whatever lmao
>start heading out of pinwheel, come across a solo player and kill him he goes "awww maaaaaaan" on voip
>have a laugh and extract
>vandal's mastery completed
>huh
turn's out the only challenge I was missing was killing someone being 20m above them so being up in pinwheel while some poor guy exploded downstairs counted
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>>560517849
I have 150 hours and I played like this in Arc once I was done with my benches and quests. Queue into game with Venator and Renegade with bunch of ammo, triggers, smokes, jolts, shitton of meds. The point is that you go in with enough resources to take down everyone and take their shit, which is still net positive. Plus the actual objective you're there for like trials for example.

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>>560517949
>what are streamers that play 16 hours a day
Is this your first time playing a multiplayer video game with progression?
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>>560517992
why do you think this is a good thing
please enlighten me
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>>560517963
do 3 lockdowns on marsh
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>TTK is so fast that gear doesn’t matter and shitters can get easy kills if they see you first
>Top players are way too kitted out in high-level gear that it makes the game impossible for everyone else
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>>560518037
Where did I say this is a good thing you stupid illiterate jeet nigger? I said this is how every extraction slop shooter is, which is objectively true.
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Is it true if you don't bring a sniper to dire marsh or a shotty to outpost, you're just wasting your time?
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>>560518080
autism
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>>560517896
Wandafag?
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>>560517860
never played any other bungie game save for halo 1
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>>560517992
>what are streamers that play 16 hours a day
curious that me and other people complaining about this are apparently getting exclusively matched with streamers then.
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>>560518123
i'm not wanda. but if that post got deleted because the janny thought it was wanda, i'm going to the irc to complain
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>>560517860
It's your fault for sticking with destiny and letting them take you for a ride. I have no loyalty to bungie so as soon as I stop liking the direction they take marathon I'm leaving
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>>560518128
Dunno, I'm playing with level ~40 group and don't run into this issue. Skill issue?
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>>560518053
>swallow anti virus to chase some faggot
Why are you gay. I don't do quests, but when I see a lockdown I'll go there to kill the guy
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>>560518172
jesus you are an insufferable faggot. i bet you have like 10 tabs open with 10 different baits happening at once.
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>>560518226
>>560518128
>>560518106
I accept your concession, jeet-shit. Now fuck off back to your shitting street.
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>>560518060
Gear matters but no one sane will bring good gear in a solo run.
Top players who fattened up in trios will indeed rape the entire lobby if they ever decide to bring their purple shit into a solo run.
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>>560518128
>curious that me and other people complaining about this are apparently getting exclusively matched with streamers then

You have no idea how well equipped the people you're being matched with are, literally the only information the game gives you is their shield rarity (and only if you manage to land a hit) and what gun they're using (but not the rarity of their attachments). If you're trying to claim you're constantly getting matched against people with insane gear then quite frankly you're a complete fantasist because that's not information the game gives you access to.
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I’m glad to see you guys are all still having really important internet fights at 5AM. Video games are really serious stuff. The main reason to use 4chan is to be really angry and try to make others as angry as possible.
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>>560518282
nta but i'd say at this point 50%+ of my rounds have at least one squad with purple shields and longshots/wstrs
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>>560518053
I'll kill the runner who's doing it, deal? I checked if solos do it, and they do.
I don't wanna do the gay stuff myself, stick antivirus in uranus, loot key from box. Fuck that.
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>>560518351
Longshots/wstrs are not top tier loot they're relatively easy to find and can be bought for like 2k credits once you have a few lower level faction upgrades.
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>>560518351
You can literally buy the latter super cheap tho
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>>560518379
I play it because i just like the concept of being thrown into high stakes gameplay with really deadly weapons. No other genre like it.
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>this general has already devolved into daily shit-flinging like every other general
Remember that no one on /vg/ is here to have a discussion about the games. Everyone is here to argue in bad faith and try to 'ragebait' you. Like >>560518226 pointed out, these people literally do this shit in multiple threads because they have no lives. They sit there itching for a (You) to appear in one of their tabs where they're 50 posts deep into some benign "argument".

Anyway, this game sucks if you're not in a premade. See you in a few months /mg/. I'm curious to see if Bungie somehow saves the direction this game is headed in.

Ciao!
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>>560518060
It's less that the top players are kitted out in gear that makes it impossible.

It's more that the top 20% of players are playing one genre, and the rest are playing another. The 80% of people (who will overwhelmingly quit and get burnt out as the playerbase cannibalizes itself) are playing an extraction shooter. They frequently crouch walk. They try to avoid sprinting. They might even be stupid enough to try PVEing a world boss or doing an event while other players are alive still.

The top 20% in contrast are playing a high mobility battle royale. They never crouch walk around POI's looting. They use """techs""" that let them use bugged abilities and unintentional interactions to fly across the map at light speed. They sprint constantly. Their loadout is probably a shotgun and a sniper. They don't loot anything on spawn in or in their first POI. They don't engage with the AI or world events if they can help it. Instead they effortlessly slaughter every single other person on the map before looting anything.

Bungie, intentionally or otherwise (I lean toward unintentionally) has unironically made due to this one of the least casual friendly extraction shooters ever made. Nobody in Tarkov is flying in at light speed to explode you instantly, and even if you die at least you don't lose keys. Here though, probably the most incoherently designed things I've ever seen.
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>>560518442
You'll be back by tomorrow if not the next hour
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>>560518442
What does lil blud want to discuss?
The game was solved since like day 3.
All is left is just pain and suffering.
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>>560518442
>Like the guy who has been posting bait in the thread nonstop since release said, people will just try to bait you in /vg/!

Yeah no shit man
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90% of the issues people have with the game being a battle royale right now come down to the awful sound changes, it's impossible to play it like an extraction shooter when the game FORCES you to make noise to get anything worth loading into a run for but also punishes you so heavily by making almost the entire map hear it
you can't just make sure your POI is safe, you have to clear out every POI next to yours because if you make some noise fighting AI the people in the other POIs will immediately collapse on you so you're stuck in this weird dark forest of trying to get the drop on anyone daring to make noise before they can do it to you
they will revert it for sure but I fear the damage is already done and people will still keep playing like this even after the patch
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>>560518442
>make up random shit
>get called out
>abloobloobloo
(You)'re the faggot that is the problem with this website. Just constant stream of misinformation and disinformation because you're brown.
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>all the replies proving his point
kek
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>>560518412
>>560518420
yeah i know they're cheap but they're still top-tier in terms of performance (it's retarded that they're unlocked so early desu), i managed to down one because i had blue shields and a volley rifle but my freekit squaddies could basically do nothing
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>>560518412
Top tier loot is: Circuit Tracers and Swarm Directive.
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>>560516205
Is your knife button on your discord push to talk key?
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>>560518520
>they will revert it for sure but I fear the damage is already done and people will still keep playing like this even after the patch

I think this is the case, and I unironically think it may kill the game. I'll probably burn out at least, can't take much longer of how unfun the current way people are playing is. I bought an extraction shooter, not this.
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>>560517443
Also, adding the obvious potential this game has for improvement and room to flourish. But, at the moment it's being squandered until season 2 feeling nothing more like an early access title being sold as a complete game.
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>>560518791
>I bought an extraction shooter, not this.
You have to do extraction shooting, to extract.
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>>560518520
>>560518791
It's the reason why everyone has run suppressors in Tarkov forever. Unsuppressed guns have 300-500m radius while suppressed do a really quiet sound to 100 max. In this game it's like the entire map is running unsup'd weapons so you hear someone fighting in AI uplink while being near Complex.
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>>560518520
the sound changes made it worse but at the end of the day clearing out the lobby will always be the optimal way to play because there aren't that many squads, maps are small enough to traverse quickly, and good loot is pretty limited. if you think you can take on the entire lobby, it's best to get it out of the way before you start looting. people pointed this out in the alpha and all bungie did was nerf movement speed a bit. you'll get less fights once the sound is reverted because random fill squads won't bother hunting you down if there's no easy noise to follow, but sweats aren't going to stop going for map wipes
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>>560518948
TRVTH WVRM
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>>560518885
in no other extraction shooter have I felt like I needed to clear the entire lobby or die trying before I'm safe to do anything else on the map
this isn't something the streamers did to the community either, my stack just naturally started playing like this after the sound changes
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>>560518735
No I was just talking as it was happening
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>>560518948
unironically, that is a trvke
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maps are too fucking small
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>>560516205
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If anything maps are way too big.
You should be able to queue into Station, Overflow, Maintenance and fight people there like it's an arena shooter. And then the last guy alive gets to loot everything.
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I want not only ranked but freekit only mode
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Knife only mode.
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>>560519273
freekit only mode could genuinely be fun, I'd play that.

imagine entire freekit outpost lobbies, multiple weapon locker spawns on the map, the mad slaughterhouse inside pinwheel
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Rook only mode.
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>>560519307
Yeah if they're gonna make it a battle royale, might as well fucking embrace it. Wouldn't mind incentivizing killing UESC if they actually consistently drop weapons
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Man some of you really like to whine, you'll get your dose of dopamine that makes things click when you kill some guy with blue/purple shields while running a free kit and then you'll understand.
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>>560519376
that's just outpost after the first 5 minutes
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>>560519368
>freekit only mode could genuinely be fun, I'd play that.
Arc Raiders has it and it's the only fun mode left once you've reached infinite wealth.
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>>560519404
>when you kill some guy with blue/purple shields while running a free kit
yeah, it happened before, i managed to get a jump on some clueless but geared buy and deleted him before he could even react

it did NOT feel very good at all
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I want a PvE map where it’s you and 20 runners fighting ayy lmaos
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Rooks vs Shells TDM mode.
Rooks vs Shells Capture the Anomaly mode.
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>>560519331
God look at that smug little skank. She needs to be guro'd.
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>>560519269
A deathmatch/gun game mode that rotates around POIs of a given map would be kino.
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>>560519404
>trust me bro, you just need this one thing to happen every 50 games or so!
keep huffing that copium kid
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>>560519331
Dang, level 100s look like THAT!?
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Takes longer and longer each day to matchmake.
I know it's middle of a working day here in France, but I've been waiting to enter a game for around 5 mins so far...restarting does nothing. Anyone else noticing this? It's pretty brutal
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>>560518450
it's really funny coz i was feeling really annoyed by the crouch walk gameplay then i saw shroud and co play the game like tdm and it made me see the light.
now i push the nearest spawn with shotgun/sniper and a chem grenade for the retards who think hiding in smoke is gonna save them.
the game is so much more fun now. fuck extraction shooters desu i'm sure bungie will nerf this playstyle but i'm having a blast til then
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Game is bad, because other people are good at it.
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Here's my personal collection of destroyed assassin shells to brighten your day.
Fan Art/Fan Creation
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>>560519774
copium: huffed
;)
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>>560519791
Beautiful. Satisfying.
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>>560519816
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Feels basically impossible to search this game up on YouTube

Holy Mother of slop, I have never seen more ai thumbnails grace my screen, and from the same 3 youtubers talking about this game's imminent heat death. Thought it was enough time for actual gameplay and guide videos to start popping up, but apparently not
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>>560519865
kek
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>>560519492
Why not? how did it feel?
>>560519631
come on don't get so defensive like that, compare this game to Tarkov or even Arena Breakout or Delta Force's extraction mode. Here you can get into a match in less than 2 min after dying, there's literally no downside of spamming free kits and playing more and more aggressively and getting better at pvp, so why not take advantage of it?
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>>560519791
there's much more raped thief shells out there
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>>560519774
i can't wait for you and other anons here to cry in a few months when the queue times are ridiculously long thanks to all the casuals having left the game

go on, reply with something to this post, but you know i'm right
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wtf man
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>rush Piwnheel as Rook
>hear gunshots
>get there and see two Rooks in the entrance standing over fresh corpses
>about to kill them
>"Welcome, brother. This is a safe space for our kind."
>kek okay cool whatever I just want loot
>head inside
>there's 3 more fucking Rooks running around
>place has been cleared out but I still find some decent shit
>head to final exfil and hide under the boxes
>hear one of the Rooks from before talking to a squad
>they're saying "just come in dude we're not going to shoot you"
>hear him go "alright bu-"
>hear a hail of gunfire
>I am consumed by RIGHTEOUS ROOK RAGE
>wait until 10 seconds left, pop up, throw a chem grenade into the circle, scream "ROOK LIVES MATTERRRRRRRR", and charge in
>they down me but I still exfil
I forgot how fun being social is, bros...I don't want this game to go full carebear like Arc but it really is more enjoyable when people aren't pure KoS.
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>>560519946
Most of them were me!
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>M-mercy
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>>560519791
Meh, hardly ever die to assassin, imo he's one of the weakest shells and attracts the shittiest players, if you play him and play very aggressively he's pretty good, otherwise he's mostly useless.
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>>560519986
Good thing rook queues are still almost instant
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>>560519960
If there anything like Destiny fags, they will stick around till the end of time.
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>>560519960
>to cry in a few months when the queue times are ridiculously long thanks to all the casuals having left the game
Already cried about it >>560507046
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>>560520037
my cock gets erect every time i watch this clip. look at her desperately beg for mercy before you stab her chest.
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>>560520030
I'm going to be very upset with you if you're not taking your estrogen pills!
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>>560520127
I do every day so I can be the best Thief <3
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>>560520005
rook pinwheel is ludokino bc its the only place in the game where shit like this happens
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>>560519960
The queues are gonna be all the same, except all you get matched with are people who have 10k hours. Just like every other extraction shooter on the market 3 months into the wipe.
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>>560520161
only thing you are thieving are your chances at a happy life you walking jewish gender experiment
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>L-let me self revive with my estrogen injectio-ACK
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>>560520218
now that is straight copium LOL

see you in a few months. i'll be here to collect the tears.
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Every time I see a thief in my games, i think of the defeatslut anon. Damn it.
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>>560520253
LMFAOOOOOO
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>>560520345
>i think of the defeatslut anon
Same, it's over. I'm straight, but...
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>>560520365
it wasnt that funny anon
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Did Bungie solve the trans issue with shells? Shells have no gender, but Thief definitely looks like a woman but doesn't identify as one. So, does it make me gay if I fuck them?
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>marathon is causing /pol/chuds to question their sexuality
damn
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I'm not gay for busting in Thief's mouth. Because I'm not touching someone else's wiener, it's straight.
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>>560520389
>walking jewish gender experiment
really caught me off guard, that anon has no chill lol
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I bust in Thief's mouth all the time. She's downed and can't get away from me. Then I blow her brains out with my magnum.
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As long as you're giving it to thief and not receiving it from them, then it's straight.
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>>560520409
Yeah they said all shells are canonically the gender you don't want them to be at any given time.
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If I was a runner, I'd put my consciousness in a female shell... Come on, you would too.
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I honestly think adding K/D to Marathon would ruin a huge part of what makes the game amazing.

The second you put a visible K/D stat in front of people, a big chunk of the playerbase stops playing for the actual objective and starts playing for their ratio. That always happens. People get way more passive, way more scared to take fights, and way more obsessed with protecting their numbers than making cool plays.

In a game like Marathon, the tension is supposed to come from risk, looting, rotations, third parties, and deciding when to fight or when to get out. That whole formula gets warped if everyone is treating each match like a deathmatch leaderboard grinder. Instead of dynamic encounters, you get dudes hiding, ratting, farming safe kills, or flat out avoiding anything that might hurt their stats.

Visible K/D also makes the community worse. Then every discussion turns into “post stats” and “your opinion doesn’t matter unless your K/D is X.” It shrinks the conversation around the game and turns everything into ego checking. That stuff is poison, especially early on.

Not every game needs to be reduced to a kill counter. Some games are better when players are focused on survival, extraction, and making smart decisions instead of stat-padding like their life depends on it.

If they want to track stuff in the background, fine. But making K/D a front-and-center stat would absolutely change how people play, and not for the better.
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I'd receive Vandals ass in my face, and push my tongue inside
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>>560520724
>"I'm ready to break something"
Vandal says before slamming her ass onto my face
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First of all, I enjoy the game. Probably the best extraction shooter currently.

What I don't enjoy though ...

Broken Melee Damage -> it is too easy to kill someone just with your knife.

Broken Shotgun Damage -> even 10-15m and green to blue shield im down, dudes running around with 2 shotgus ... broken meta?

Rarely any voice com -> let us turn off cross-play so I can play with more PC players who also talk more

No possibility to report someone. Not even seeing their steam profile (if its a brand new profile and or had a ban before it is 9 out of 10 a cheater)

UI !!!
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starting to get really tired of this fucking reddit poster
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>see Thief's drone fly out of a building
Gotta get to her(male) before anyone else
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Marathon is a game about killing other players

It's exactly as advertised. It's a fast paced, head on a swivel, pvp shooter. I'm seeing so many complaints about the game being "too sweaty" or "too intense". Where did you get the impression that it was anything else? It's like playing a moba and complaining that the players are getting in the way of farming minions. Why play this game and then tell the devs to contort into something completely different? The game you're looking for exists, it's just not here
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>>560520875
>let us turn off cross-play so I can play with more PC players who also talk more
This is the most reasonable complaint I've seen. Any time someone talks it's a steam icon.
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Getting a double blowjob from Vandal and Thief will make me god.
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Pinwheel runs have become surgical now. Know the vents, all the card locations, what UESC will spawn. You should see it with a team that’s locked in.
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Is it me or is that little Rook volt handgun the best in the game
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She stole the car
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>>560520959
The game is just not well balanced which is what people consider too sweaty/intense.
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How is Nighttime Marsh going to work if the Phor are there but players are still expected to PvP? Won’t that ruin the horror aspect and focus of the new enemies?
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>>560521597
Its raw headshot DPS is very good
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>>560521797
The other players are merely an extra part of the horror.
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>>560521797
non-stop assrape
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>>560519430
If only there was some sort of way for an extraction shooter to avoid the problem of infinite late game wealth



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