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Cosmetic Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-226950

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>561301592
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BLEED
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Sex with Venator
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>>561334630
Excellent edition
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Sex with Abrams
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To any retards who can't read
>>561334630
>>>>>>>>>>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
>https://statlocker.gg/
>https://tracklock.gg/
Especially the silverfags, tone it down for once, please
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Celeste should have never gotten in at her current state, I think people only wanted her in because her leotard makes their dicks hard.
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>>561334856
Imagine a lapdance from Celeste
too bad she's a fucking dyke
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The Silver posting will continue until she is at least A-tier
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Exile Dotards and Leaguebabs to their respective generals
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>>561334948
>Implying you can't just fuck her straight
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>>561334202
>less than 45% winrate for over a year and "yoshis favorite"
>just got hard nerfed again
peruvians are the cancer of every moba
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>>561334856
But she doesnt because of her trashy tattoos
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>>561335072
Just pretend that it's printed pantyhose
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>>561335042
Never.
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>>561334856
i think she has the sexiest voice in the game dbh
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>>561335146
KEEP YER EYE ON DA BALLS, BOIS AN GERLS
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>>561335042
Add
A
Surrender
Button
To
This
Game
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Who is the second most annoying character to play against? We all know who number 1 is
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>>561335243
bawls*
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>>561334767
Based
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dey cahn ruhn buh ite dohn mahtah
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>>561335243
Oh she keeps her eyes on balls alright...
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Add Daredevil from Marvel Rivals into the game NOW
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i miss clq's deadlock streams
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>>561335352
Except Infernus. It does mahtah.
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>>561335042
Add Rivalsissies to that list
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>there are 5 heroes in the entire game that below average stamina, two.
>vindicta, mcginnis, holliday, graves, paige
>holliday has her bouncing pads which give her lots of mobility and air control already
>paige mcginnis and vindicta all want to backline generally with alot of ranged options, paige in her long range spells, vinny and miku in both their guns and spells with miku being able to play bloon TD in deadlock
>graves gets none of that literally all her spells require her to get close with 0 mobility skills, she also has avrage movment speed
yet retards still think she's broken
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>>561335021
For me it's more like
>The Silver posting will continue until she is top result on r34 instead of Ivy
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am i a dishonest or honest player?
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Black woman of Valve unoriginality deniers have been real quiet ever since this dropped...
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>>561335352
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>>561335490
>press ult on a lane literally anywhere
>instantly win the macro game
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>>561335490
>there are 5 heroes in the entire game that below average stamina, two.
Incorrect, but thats what I would expect from gravestroons
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>>561335580
*approaches the gravestone and punches it twice*
nuttin personnel, kid
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>>561335639
>take 10% of your hp cause they spawn constantly and are unavoidable
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>>561335490
There are 7 heroes with 2 stamina, bwo.
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>>561335535
Thanks for the bump
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>>561335490
You forgot Silver is cucked with 2 stamina too. How is that fair when heroes like Billy and Shiv have 3 stamina + a dash esque ability.
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I think it'd be really fun if there were a character whose entire kit was just Disarming Hex, Knockdown and Metal Skin
Just a character whose job is to deal with all the cancer in the game
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NERF SHIV ALREADY YOSHI HOLY SHIT THIS HERO IS TOO OP
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>>561335717
Because Shiv and Billy have low winrates, so removing their stam would make it worse
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The more you bait the angrier the Lash gets.
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>>561335779
>Built in Disarming Hex, Knockdown
This is Mo
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>>561335790
shiv is alright. dont nerf him
>t. doorman and shiv 2trike
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What a genuinely narcissistic faggot.
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>>561335790
the baxtuh society got the baroness's number
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>>561335930
who is this
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sex with Jeanne Geist (Mina sits in the chair)
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>>561335930
>Discord logo on jacket
How many kittens has this guy groomed?
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>they dont know yoshi dropped a changelog 5 minutes ago
>geist buffs
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>>561335779
that's supposed to be rem but all they do is build retarded items instead
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>>561335930
Advertising yourself is against the rules.
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>>561336001
you actually made me check you nigger
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Sir, an Asian girl has finally cosplayed Mina
>>561336001
>>561336085
It's almost 4 am in Seattle, Valve employees are tucked into bed right now
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>>561336001
Geist buffs would make me quit the game
>Busted lane
>Hypercarry Scaling
>Impossible to kill in a 1 v 1 due to her swap
This hero needed to be gutted ages ago.
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>>561336085
He fell for it, everyone point and laugh
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>>561336150
No please I just started playing her
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>>561335790
Don't think for one second you're better than me
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>>561336143
i want to cut her face off with surgical precision so as to pull it off in a single, clean, swipe and fashion it into a mask
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>>561336183
No offence but everyone cries about Victor players being boosted, but Geist players are way more egregious. I don't think there's a hero in the game that does everything like Geist does
At least victor is shite in lane.
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Which Silver build you guys use?
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>>561336143
Cute nose
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>>561335957
some gay guy
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>>561336291
I make my own and end up doing what everyone else is anyway, just like every other character I play
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>>561335523
where's the happy trail...
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>>561336362
What everyone else is doing then?
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It is kind of ridiculous Slice and Dice lasts like 10+ seconds
The fuck is that bullshit even
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>>561336386
The artist was a coward
It's sad, but it happens sometimes
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>>561336281
>Geist players are way more egregious
not even u believe this, unless you are a seething victorcuck
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>>561336454
Express, Point Blank, Stamina Mastery, Silence Wave, you know
The usual bullshit
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>Rem gets caught out by shiv
>Turn around to help
>Get shiv down to literal 1 hp
>Presses 4 and insta wins
Nerf this ugly ass monkey some more
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>>561336458
Bro your dispel magic?????
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>>561336665
he tried ta be nice
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>>561336562
I replaced PB with slowing bullets into weighed, the debuff reduction is pretty nice
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>>561336682
FUCK YOU OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>561336665
>cant win a 2v1 vs Shiv
kek, what is that match ID i need to see this
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>>561336734
BLEED FOR ME
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>>561336742
Dynamo showed up to help shiv and I think Rem fucked off elsewhere
And no fuck you schizo freak
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>>561336823
>Dynamo showed up to help shiv and I think Rem fucked off elsewhere
ah
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Why are Deadlock players such evil insensitive chuds?
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>>561336993
#riseupgaymers
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>>561336993
Why don't these people ever mute anybody?
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Just to clear up a few misconceptions:

Banter in a competitive game/sport of any kind is part of the culture. Slurs and insults are not, especially when based on bigotry.

Toxicity is present in the majority of online games but that does not mean people have to accept that this will be the status quo in our community.

Calling people who want to enjoy a match without insults "soft" does not make you look tough, it makes you look like a wannabe schoolyard bully who never actually played a team-sport where that attitude does not fly.

There is also this idea that Valve "does not care" about online abuse, which is demonstrably untrue; They have invested a lot into Replay-Review Systems and Dota 2 features a sophisticated Behaviour Score-System which will gradually remove communication privileges or your ability to pause the game, based on your conduct towards others.

Valve is ALREADY taking a similar path in Deadlock, there are bans for communication-abuse and report-spamming, as well as a Low-Priority Queue for griefers and leavers. You can also set language-filters via Steam Settings which will apply to Deadlock.

Make sure to report bad actors in Deadlock AND on this general.
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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I once went into a game where mina kept trying to erp with me but she was a futa
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I think I might actually quit this game, I'm getting way too frustrated, the game's been way less fun for me ever since I got into phantom and the sheer amount of russian subhumans in my games is tilting me into the stratosphere
anons help
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>>561337085
Banter to some is insults to others. Can't handle it then mute the coms. Problem solved.
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What if you could buy an item again (for double the cost this time) to upgrade it to its brawl enhanced version?
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>>561337153
gg blyat subhuman son of motherless whore dog suka I throw OK???
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>>561335790
guh?
Character has been consistently nerfed ever since its inception and barely anyone enjoys playing him or does good with him outside of OTPs.
Also knife build is legit trash, one single dispel magic invalidates the entire thing (if you spread your stacks they don't do damage, if you all in on someone and they dispel you're now a glorified melee creep).
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>>561337085
copypasting posts from reddirt is certified SOFT behaviour
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>>561335535
>2 of the feds are DEI black women
Feds are not human so this is realistic
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Does anyone else buy glass cannon every game as a m1gger? -10% max health is too negligible for the 80% weapon damage + stacking firerate bonuses.
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>>561336993
HEY YAAAAAALLLLLL CELESTE IS LIKE, TOTALLY ALONE GUYS LETS KILL HER FABULOUS ASS
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>>561336993
Bet he plays Mina or Ivy
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>>561337423
federal agencies are also full of DEI hire bullshit. If you're trying to get hired there being a white man is straight up bad.
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Playing Victor is so painful right now but I'm still going to do it because I love him
Its so weird that his PB damage remains unchanged but the nerf to life steal + aura being a big fat piece of shit make him fail as a dps and tank due to how late he gets online compared to someone like Abrams
Yesterday in one game my lane partner was dynamo and never in my life have I felt like such an useless retard
I guess it fits the character fantasy to be in a constant state of pain and misery. Not even late game feels that good anymore
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>>561336993
He definitely sounds like a massive faggot, and absolutely has a voice to match.
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>>561336993
i sound like a faggot and have never had this problem, try growing a backbone
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>>561335790
Kind of funny how this guy plays around the door kidnapping so much that he spends the entire game with 1 bell charge and 0 damage items, I can't imagine spending the entire game dealing no damage like that.
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so how do i push against a geist and paige mashing their 1 key into a chokepoint
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>>561337441
yea unga
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>>561337789
>still a 54% winrate hero at almost all ranks
nigga he lost a SINGLE PERCENT of winrate he was barely changed
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>>561338312
spellbreaker
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>>561338312
you dont

go around and flank from multiple angles or do something else like urn or boss and force them out of their pussy hideout
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>>561337051
you gotta experience hardship before you can complain about it for clout
it's why they're always hamming it up and baiting, hit the perfect clip of someone calling you a troon and you got upvoted for dayss
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>>561338359
Have you played victor yourself
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Gravesisters...
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>>561338690
no but the main change is he isnt literally unkillable he's still extremely strong as a space creator you just cant 1v11
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>>561335142
That works for the legs but the torso tats ruin it. Her anims and voice are pure sex though.
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>>561338749
>nerf healing
>he literally does no DPS now fuck you yoshi!!!
victards should not be interacted with
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>>561338749
That feels like complete garbage to play
>B-but winrate
I really don't care about winrates when the whole gimmick of the character was directly nerfed in a cheap way
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>>561337925
What's that dudes rank so I can feel depressed.
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>>561338721
Clearly doing his best to rat
Bless his heart
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Being an unkillable server admin is a stupid gimmick and should be removed, yes.
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>>561338918
It's not fun for anyone else to have you just hit 40k souls and be an annoying faggot you need to buy 12k of counter items just to have a CHANCE at killing you.
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>>561339130
When I said this about Bebop, people made fun of me. Why?
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>>561339160
Because you can just kill the slow fat-fuck Bebop and one item 3.2k item turns off his entire gimmick.
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does the Healbane heal on kill have to be a final blow or do assists count as well
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>>561339130
As someone who likes to buy counter items I disagree
Focus Lens, Decay and silence wave my love.
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>>561339160
bebop genuinely could get to that point but it was very rare and usually a misplay by giving him that many stacks to begin with

victors could afk farm and just win because you didnt end the game before 25 minutes, it's not really comparable

victor also has 2 lives baseline so even if he plays like a total retard he can still get bailed out lmao
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>>561339287
>decay
retard
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how the fuck do I stop dying as seven
I must be doing something wrong, I don't die that much on others
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>>561339130
And the same applies to every single carry in the game that is fed/well farmed, especially Haze and Wraith.
When I'm playing against a fed carry, I tend to get metal skin and other defensives before my damage items and this has been successful.
In fact, yesterday there was a match I was Rem and we had a retarded Ivy that when I asked her to buy curse she said
>I will get siphon bullets instead
This is how I imagine most of you here seem to play, completely averse to the thought of adapting to the enemy
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>Every patch makes games snowball as fuck without any hope for a comeback
This is the real reason why people are asking for surrender vote, because after these March patches, the comeback is impossible. And if it's impossible there is no reason wasting 30 minutes on the match that is doomed, people are right in asking for surrender vote under the current conditions. It was like this in 2024 too at some point but it was slowly getting better until the March 6 patch. Now if developers goal was making the game a LoL like snowball fest they certainly succeeded. If that wasn't the goal then I have no idea what the fuck are they doing, and what their goal is.
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>>561339442
no other fed carry is as tanky as victor and he has two lives so there's literally no shutting him down ever
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>>561339442
>I will get siphon bullets instead
What if im playing Lash
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>>561338930
Eternus 4
I respect the hustle of grinding there with Doorman especially pre buffs even if the Shiv rant is retarded
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>>561339478
it's always been like this you just noticed it now cause youre having less fun (probably a boosted victor cuck finally deranking)
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>>561339350
If buying decay makes me a retard then get me my dunce cap. I love decay.
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>>561339557
>e4
wewlad
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>>561339478
Just had a comeback si this doesn't hold up desu, it depends on what heros you're rolling with, holliday and the like need to win early while bebop ivy and the like benfit from going fullbuild(12 item game btw, thx valve)
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>>561336665
YER DED
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>>561339287
I know Silence Wave is good but I can never bring myself to buy it I just get focus lens instead.
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QoS mods when?
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>>561337925
>complains about shiv doing damage by landing 3 skill shots
>spends all game doing nothing but abducting people into spawn with an undodgeable combo
hang peru
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>>561339579
No. Until the March 6 patch I had plenty of comebacks.
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>>561339705
EOS soon
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>>561338845
Yes because they nerfed his 3 in the patch before
Abrams Siphon scales better than victor 3. How does that make sense?
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>>561339857
>How does that make sense?
Well obviously Victor's a corpse amalgam so he can't be healed as easy, he can only be stitched up instead into "working" condition.
I accept your concession in advance.
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>>561339478
But anon, if you have 50k diff at at 25 minutes, game won't last long anyway. And if you managed to drag it out into 40+ minute range then economy no longer matters.

Admit it, you want to /ff after lane phase like a whiny bitch you are.
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how do you beat graves in this rank? she feels like a raidboss every game and enables the enemy to just deathball and bait your team into dying trying to defend
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>>561339857
Maybe Victor players will have to learn positioning now too instead of W+M1 while drooling over the keyboard.
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>>561340058
rank is ritualist
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>>561340125
>Yeah buddy you're a hypercarry with gimped late game potential while Seven/Wraith/Warden are left virtually untouched just position better!
Just be honest and admit Abrams is a better victor.
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>>561340131
Buy disarm hex even if it isn't good on your char.
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>>561339551
I buy curse on every character that isn't a carry because it's an incredible item, especially so if you are behind. I am sorry if I misunderstood what you meant
>>561340125
Fascinating you say that because good positioning counters Victor
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>>561340231
>Warden
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
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>>561340058
>>561340131
Phantom strike too works if close range char.
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>>561340058
bully her early because she needs like 5 items to come online. Ideally swap lanes so you don't have melee heroes lane against her and feed her kills.
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>>561340058
stop trying to push my walker
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>>561340591
not quite sure what you mean, everything about her was buffed
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new graves is just old victor lol, hold w and no one can kill you because of ricochet spirit resist steal if your passive giving you 80% spirit resist so you just build bullet defense and lifesteal then its basically turning on godmode

game is somehow more unplayable than the last patch
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>bully her early because she needs like 5 items to come online
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>>561340591
I have a 53% win rate with her I think she's fine as a support
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>>561340949
>73% wr if she was good
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>>561340909
>what is disarming hex
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>>561340909
>new graves is just old victor
and other takes from shitlow!
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>>561341185
paige fucks those
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>>561341185
Graves has a few more
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>>561341185
not canon

>>561341297
canon
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>>561341379
>canon
Of course, she learned it from the best
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>>561334856
I don't think I have ever seen a design in a game before that screams "Tumblr" more than this
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wish I could replace my mcginnis wall with a gigantic fucking advertisement sign that says
STOP FUCKING FEEDING YOU USELESS NIGGERS
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Deadlock is just Dota for zoomers
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Why can Venator ult shoot through Kelvin dome.
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>>561342161
And that's a good thing fr fr
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vindicta scourge and spirit burn
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>>561342284
Gods will
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>>561341185
But Paige fucks a dog...
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>>561342510
viable
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Why does it take so long to rank up, I've been straight up raping my Oracle matches for like three days now
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>>561342534
wtf that werewolf is biting her
she's going to turn into a werewolf now as well
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>>561342563
if your account is older you're kinda fucked
beyond that just play more characters because rank is an overall thing so you're being held back by the fact that you never played X% of the roster
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>>561342563
The more games you play the harder its rank up basically.
I have zero clue how I managed to get into phantom after 300 games, feel bad for my team-mates because I am not phantom level.
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yoooo im low prio in deadlock rn. please join my party because I am tryhard mode for one game QGX5Y
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>>561342284
Who is king inside the dome?
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>>561342856
>so you're being held back by the fact that you never played X% of the roster
NTA; This is stupid but true, everytime I shot up in rank it was because I spammed something I never played and shat on lobbies two divs below mine.
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>>561342995
I'm not gonna do that, but I do love Ivy
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>>561343023
>Who is king inside the dome?
Same as who's king outside of it.
Christ.
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>>561343283
I laughed
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>chink runes on enemy team
>always m1 hero
>never misses and has 100% awareness of where everyone is
loving every laugh
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>>561342563
>>561342935
I got originally placed in initiate, I'm in emissary after 500 games played, about half of those being street brool. Meanwhile my brand new to the game friend got placed in archon
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>>561343283
Exactly.
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hold on a minute here i'm so confused why the fuck is vyper winning so much now? nothing changed for her?
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>>561342563
because the system has an idea of your real rank despite of the medal shown
if you're below the actual rank you rank up faster and vice versa, until you reach the real rank
ranking up becomes slow once you get to that point
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>>561343652
>196 matches
meaningless sample size inflated by eternus 6 vyper mains
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>build focus lense + curse + decay + healbane for victor
>put it all on him during a teamfight
>no one attacks him
>everything expires
>he continues to hold w
whats a hero i can spam to just splitpush/rat 24/7 and ignore other heroes
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>>561343652
look at the games, the sample size is too small to be relevant
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>>561343652
>196 matches
Stop posting eternoid only graphs and for the love of god stop trying to influence people with them
They're a small sample size relevant to nobody except the handful of dickweeds in that bracket
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>>561343724
>whats a hero i can spam to just splitpush/rat 24/7 and ignore other heroes
i do this every match and i main graves, mirage and venator
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>>561343724
wraith
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>>561343724
lmao this dude fell for the counter meme
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>>561343652
>by days
>not by patch
asuming it's actually by patch and not "major" patch.
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>>561334780
my husband
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Miku ult still insufferable to play against...
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>>561344129
t. Silver
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>>561343567
This is why I care so much about rank, I don't want to make a smurf I want my main to be somewhat high by release so I'm not perma stuck in boring mmr. Oracle will be 'alright' once release comes around but I feel like Asc minimum is required for my autism to have fun.
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>>561344162
silver doesnt have it in her to actually love someone
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>>561344240
Venator can fix her
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>>561344138
with the slight turret buffs they're becoming a better investment than early ult now and their DPS can be higher so expect a swap to that soon after the next round of ult nerfs
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>>561344240
Rem's barbed dick can fix her
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>>561343794
>the best percentile of players don't matter
why?
>JUST BECAUSE OKAY SHUT UP
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>>561343724
Venator, just set up trenches for you to fall back on. You're unbeatable CQC.
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I wonder if Graves downplayers will get along with Netanyahu in the afterlife.
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We shall NEVAAAAR SURREEENDAAAR
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FOR THE CAUSE
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>every comp player and E6 streamer who has made a tier list since the 3/21patch now considers Victor the single worst character in the game
Huh...
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>>561343567
same, when i started playing i got slotted into initiate and i've had to climb my way up. my friend who started last week did 3 games solo and was in emmissary 3

did they change it at some point so new accounts start in "the middle" now?
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>>561334856
Removing her bathroom graffiti tattoos made it more bearable.
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the only thing i don't get is why these miniscule buffs suddenly made graves go from a 40% wr to a 55% wr

it's not like the skulls do an insane amount of more damage and her gun got no damage buffs either
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>>561342995
just like every vg board, anons would rather talk about the game then play with me ;-;
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>>561345376
im an emissaryshitter i would be no help
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>>561345356
retards being retards
Theyll drop her soon hopefully
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>>561345178
He still needs nerfs
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celeste would be hot if they only gave her one back tattoo like picrel
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>>561345461
Hello, Seeker.
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>>561345458
I'm smurfing bro don't worry im eternus on main actually no joke
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>>561345376
I am ass with 30 hours in game total
I am not trying to embarrass myself even more
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>>561345356
Root is insane and skulls deal a shitload of damage
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>>561345376
>>561342995
>Please joiner the prisoners camp queue with me a trusted non schizo from 4chan
Idk bro
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>>561310708
what's the sauce on this anime, art looks nice
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>>561345598
boku no pico
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i would like to ride the horse
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>>561345693
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>>561345356
People forgot how to melee her skulls since everyone stopped playing her for a couple of months while she was Trash tier.
Give it a couple of days and she'll sink right back to 50%.
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>>561345376
I dont play with /vg/ too many schizos
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>>561345693
>dey can run and it does mattuh
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Goober's tier list
Silver bros aren't gonna like this...
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>>561345807
Or maybe meleeing her skulls isn't very consistent when they float at completely random distances most of the time.
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>>561345376
i'm not gonna join a low prio tard bro sorry, i work hard to stay on the non-subhuman queue
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>>561345807
The skulls fly out of melee range, nice try.
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>>561345832
I would not trust this dude for anything but Viscous information
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>>561344882
>autists who one trick a character that no one plays
>matter to anyone
do you actually need an explanation of you plan on using that empty brain of yours yourself?
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>>561345964
He won DNS with Silver
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>>561345832
>Goober's tier list
who is this and why should i care?
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>>561345938
>>561345895
Hello, shitlow.
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>>561345832
>tier list made by a retard
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>>561345356
1.she wasn't even that bad last patch it was just calico and wraith were giga-op and they destroy her.

2.echo shard tier 3 wall is stupid
add refresher and you can have like 10+ zombies in the midpit

3.the +1% current health buff seems like a meme but when you got that many zombies on the map it's a pretty significant buff.
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>>561346004
Warden won but I don't see him in S+ either
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>>561345832
this silver shit is such an obvious psyop
she never even does that well on tournaments, i mean it's not that she's bad but seriously overrated
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>>561345832
Tier lists made by Eternus players don't mattuh in my clown fiesta lobbies (Archon) where a lane ends 0/8 and urn runs happen uncontested without splitpushes.
We need a tier list made by an ape, for apes.
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When are we getting a cute fluffy girl like Hoodwink?
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>>561335490
Graves' movement speed genuinely does make up for it, once you have a stamina item. If you know any movement tech at all you can go pretty fast with her.
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>>561336318
Borderline semetic.
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>>561345547
I don't care if you're bad I just want to play a match with others in low prio because it's more fun.
>>561345909
>>561345568
low prio is fun when you're good
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>>561346265
They're adding Hoodwink, trust the plan.
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>>561346223
Tier lists literally don't matter below Oracle because the game is decided by who throws harder rather that who's playing what.
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>>561346064
Eternus btw. Just because you don't actually move around enough so the skulls stay still doesn't mean it's the same for everyone
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>>561346348
I would but I'm at work
Sorry bro
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when are they adding draft? i've been having fun playing for over a year now but feel like the quality of my games would increase if it wasn't forced blind pick
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The gravestone requiring melees (that you can just parry) is the biggest bullshit, you're already forced to tank at least a few zombie explosions by going near it and then you can't ever even kill it if any enemy hero is on it
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>>561346389
>>561346223
Literally anybody can carry in shitlow if they get fed enough, I've seen fucking Rems and Paiges and Hollidays go 20/0
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>>561346550
it would be actually useless if you could just plink it from a distance tho
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Haze being able to shoot me when I can't see her is such bullshit. Her gun should do 0 damage unless she's within my field of view.
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>>561345693
I am a Drifter main and my hand looks like this
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>>561346420
If you're Eternus then learn to shoot.
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Silver is unironically f tier this patch
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If /dlg/ is so right where is /dlg/'s tier list?
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>>561346650
make it not highlighted when placing it down, graves players already hide it in annoying spots anyways that aren't immediately in the line of fire so changing it to shooting wouldn't be a problem
give her tombstone and skulls HP like turrets and then increase the cooldown on skulls
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>>561346965
SSS tier:
Whoever's at the top of the chart on Statlocker that I don't play.
S Tier:
Everyone that isn't in SSS Tier.
Z Tier:
Characters I play.
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>>561346965
>broken bullshit tier: (You)r characters
>honest mid tier: characters (I) know how to fight
>struggling low tier: (My) characters
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>>561346965
straight outta initiate
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>miss 3
>miss 4
>urge to kill myself intensifies

how the fuck do you play this lightbulb? even if I get some good ganks early or pressure mid I just fall off a cliff late
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>>561347434
You don't miss 3
You don't miss 4
You have wall silence and bombs when you 4 so your teammate kills them.
Easy as pie.
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>>561347154
>>561347165
>joke replies
This is why /dlg/ will never amount to anything
>>561347184
You're alright keep climbing
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>>561346965
current patch so i don't have enough info but it feels like this
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>>561347434
my recent favourite was
>close game, both patrons down, everyone alive and playing around mid/looking for a pick
>teammate finds enemy infernus
>hit swap on him, thinking that my teammate will just die otherwise+we can probably kill him
>he actually bought unstoppable recently that I didn't realize to check
>he instantly ults, stuns four from my team and we wipe+lose the game on the spot
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>BROOOOL mode
>Crushing Fist
>Lifestrike
>Runed Guantlets
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Warden's voicelines are so fucking good man.
ITS TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD.
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>>561346420
>Im eternus but im complaining about graves of all characters
uh huh sure russnigger go enlist into the meat grinder already
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>be seekerGAWD
>picks don’t matter
>builds don’t matter
>just whoever got the most retards


It’s nice knowing I can pick whatever and the 19/2 Celeste will still lose because the other 5 players on her team are legally blind
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>''you are dead''
when is Shiv getting new voicelines
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>>561346965
this is my general vibe but i haven't put too much thought into the ordering
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>>561347692
if you want my (>>561347165) honest opinion then i feel like most characters can do well in the right hands, esp at my rank (oracle) so i'm kinda tierlist agnostic
i'm at the belief that until you hit tournament play or maybe higher level ladder character choice is not what's holding a person back (and even then there are dedicated enough one tricks that can go wild on unexpected picks)
that said there's a few standouts
>i fucking hate apollo and how miserable he is to lane against, he CAN fall off but it's also possible to just snowball to where you don't fall off
>mirage seems nuts but he also is possibly has the least feedback in terms of fighting him since his damage is delayed, once people realize your health bar lies to you when mirage is on screen i think it'll be a bit more reasonable
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>>561346965
>If /dlg/ is so right where is /dlg/'s tier list?
Here you go
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>>561348018
I didn't complain about shit, I just corrected a misunderstanding.
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Character for this feel?
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>>561348319
I don't know dude shut up

people on /vg/ posting dumb images and being like "whats this feel" are like people who try to show you youtube videos that they like on their phones IRL
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>Win game despite being a mostly useless retard who's only saving grace being that I can read the map and push waves
I am so elo inflated its not even funny. Thank you sinclair for carrying my sorry ass. Also he has a funny ping when you say No
>That sounds like a savannah idea!
We need more voice lines for this guy it makes me giggle like a idiot.
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>>561348457
I don't think Graves is very Bane.
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>>561347434
You should buy trophy collector
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>>561348702
she is more align with "theyre not my friends"
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>>561348651
posted the silver image award
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>>561346965
the official ritualist tierlist
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>>561348227
Mirage would have a diplomat thing
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>get a pig filthy nigger russian team with no IQ
>lose to a slightly less retarded pig filthy nigger russian team
worst feeling in the world. it's like you can tell they're braindead but it doesn't matter because it's 6 of them deathballing while your victor afks in jungle 0-10
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>get paired with a Mirage in lane
Great! No, that's awesome. I'm going to love getting absolutely no kills in lane because you chose to play the most useless fucking cunt of all time. Thanks man!
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>>561348895
His scarab build is broken and he becomes unkillable giga hitler. Mind you in low/mid elo people haven't caught on so you have my condolences
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>>561348895
mirage is at worst a top 3 hero right now im afraid
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>Announces out LOUD: TELEPORTING
>ends up behind my team every 20 fucking seconds assassinating the back line

ILL TAKE YOUR LIFE

CONSUME THEM
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>>561349016
Whats the build?
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How do you mirage ult without getting disoriented
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Buff Traveler's cooldown again
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>>561348809
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>>561347184
More accurate than the delusional "pro's" list
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what do you do as graves if you're laning against grey talon or vindicta and nobody on the team wanted to swap
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>/dlg/ and reddit
>le balance is shit!
>look at tierlists
>at least half of the roster in top tiers
really makes you think
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>>561349538
Build Resto+Regen and wait it out
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>>561349203
Why does a bodyguard have abilities that kill anyway? He should have abilities to make himself tankier so he can tank for his djinn waifu
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How do you parry abrams after charge? I don't get it, the parry does not get buffered if you just click once, do you hold?
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>>561349538
monster rounds + regen
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Buying resist feels pointless most of the time.
If you're winning, you don't need it.
If you're losing, you die in 10 seconds instead of 7.
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>late game base teamfight
>trying to destroy their patreon
>stunned Rem falls in front of me for some reason
>kill him
Lol, ok
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>Silver this, Silver that
How many Silver mains are here anyway?
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>>561350025
They don't play the game at all
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>>561350025
2, but they're VERY LOUD.
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>>561349906
>patreon
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>>561347184
Explain to me how Sheev is consistently in A tier when he has one of the worst winrates in the game in Archon and below. Statistically, getting a Sheev on the enemy teams is a boon for you.
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>>561350025
Used to main her before the unwarranted nerfs, she needs a total unnerf and buffs on top right now, every time I play her now I get mad at how weak she is.
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>>561349445
I close my eyes when the casting starts and open when it's done.
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>play Ven
>randomly place traps on the most open, obvious, visible spots possible
>people still step on them
Can't tell if they're facetanking them or just retarded
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>>561350097
That's the Silver upplayers.
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>>561347850
I hope they don't deviate too much from his hopepilled lines as it's a very good contrast if he eventually looks like a miserable sleepless alchemist on a lone crusade
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>>561349645
Charge grants one guaranteed heavy unless he fucks the timing or you have a lot of debuff resist. The smart ways to play it is
>jump over charge (ez)
Failing that, if you do get stunned save your parry for the 2nd heavy. He is used to people wasting parry after the first punch lands so he's going for a second. That's when you get him.
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>>561350319
If you have airborne heroes on your team no one will look at the ground.
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>>561350319
take the spirit nuke trap pill
>2.2x scaling so easily reaches over 500dmg per trap, then you add tankbuster, reverb + spirit burn into that to consistently get 1k+ each time someone gets caught
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>>561350319
>Play Ven in brawl
>Move forward
>Throw trap out in the open
>They get trapped
>This happens multiple times
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>>561329512
gem
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>>561350025
I'm maining her right now, but I also play Billy when I want to tryhard.
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>>561350546
This might be a cool idea. Btw, gutshot lvl 2 + trap, if you do it fast enough is guaranteed.
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>get the drop on vindicta
>she escapes
>for some ungodly reason she flies up in the air to ult with like 20 hp
>send a holy stake through her skull at 50mph
What was her plan there?
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>>561350025
I don't play her but I need her ass on my face.
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>>561345832
Here's a real unboosted nigga's tier list.
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>>561350924
>silver
>s+
How
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I'm Eternus btw
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>>561346965
About how I feel at high oracle atm roughly
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remove aura of suffering and make it a toggle that buffs all of victor's resists at the cost of health
alternatively give him something a bit cooler like a stunning straight punch, an advance, a big jump or anything else that displays his inhuman strength really
rework his pain battery and give it charges so it now fires a single bolt that bounces to other targets and the more charges you have the more powerful and the more bounces, but it's still a single starting bolt
make his ultimate a bit more engaging and allow him to crawl around while being reconstructed
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I find it interesting how silver's counter is "just run away" but her winrate is higher at Ascendant and Eternus where players are assumedly better at running away
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>>561351448
Because they do instead of just fighting her and killing her
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>>561336993
every obviously queer guy i've played with has been toxic unironically
some faggot mina kept telling me how they wanted to rape me
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>>561351151
Haze and Seven are absolutely on 50/50
Either they get hyperfed and become raid bosses or they feed and seethe
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>>561350924
This is a metro tierlist btw.
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I want to play warden but if I do some retard playing wraith or infernus for the first time is going to do 0 objetive damage in my team
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>>561351448
chasing is harder than being chased because you have to be able to replicate the enemy's movement to keep up with them
and in shitlow theres more likely to be a gap in movement knowledge, bad silvers are easier to kite and chase
it's actually not so complicated
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>>561351578
raping a man is the most masculine thing you could do
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i kneel.... they still lost
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Why does Victor have a shit his pants aura anyway
What does that have to do with being stitched together
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>wraith can just spam 6 cards for 1000+ damage in like 3 seconds by the time you get 3 APs
>also insanely OP late game too
>her damage is split between spirit and gun so buying res for one is only half effective
>ult is a free kill
>can teleport 100 meters away if you somehow catch her
what's the counterplay here
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>>561337925
That's the neat thing about doorman right now, even if you rush t5 bell and build spirit you're still doing no fucking damage
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>A trillion different pings in the game
>Contextual pings still broken as hell and barely function
>Now can only ping "Heading to lane"
Bravo Yoshi
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>>561337925
ive played with this guy before and he lost us the game hyperfixated on le epic door kidnaps against a m&k who just kept comboing him when he went for it
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>>561351740
>dat team
it was over the second the game started
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why are you all putting kelvin so high I never see him do good
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>>561336143
what is the appeal of anime cons if you aren't a cosplayer?
vendor halls are just full of chink shit you could import for cheaper
panels are just cringe shit
most of the attendees are already there with their friends and are probably too busy filming tiktok dances to socialize
the only appeal i can see is going drunk with friends but i don't have any who would go to an anime con
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>>561352126
>I dont have any friends
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>>561342284
Jesus is in control, dude
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>>561346965
my alchemist iii (i only did one regular game and it put me there) brooler tier list
some characters fluctuate wildly depending on who's piloting them though, like there is a huge difference between a good and bad doorman and pocket for example
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>>561350235
Maybe in a competitive setting with good comms the teams with a Shiv make him max his ult and use him to effectively lower every enemy's health by 25% in team fights.
I don't really know, I've never watched them do that.
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>>561345832
consider the following (characters not in order inside their tiers)
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>>561352203
not everyone wants to travel 3 hours with me to the local con
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>>561351448
High elo players have bigger ego hence why they think you can 1 v 1 werewolf silver at close range instead of just climbing a rope and waiting it out.
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>>561350235
i made this based on perceived value from what i can reasonably contribute or what i've seen others contribute
so for shiv i feel like a reasonably skilled shiv can hold his own in teamfights and drag them out long enough with slice and dice and bloodletting to let others jump in and possibly turn the tides
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>>561352054
>grenade that damages, heals, stops stamina regen, and massively slows
>ice path for urns, engages, escapes or being a cocksucker in general during laning
>cancer beam that hits you behind guardian and ricochets making you slow to a crawl and die
>enabler and objective defense ult can make you forced to face the rapist on the enemy team on disadvantageous terms
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>>561352463
>source: I made it up
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>>561352463
This is a mistake as she will turn back into human form which is more dangerous than wolf form.
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>>561342284
matthew 19:26
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>>561352054
hes got really good utility, especially with the grenade changes, for pretty low investment
all of this, and he never faces the problem of falling off late game because dome will always be useful for saves and picks, grenade is a nice boost of survivability, and ice path lets you rotate insanely fast and safely to fix lanes and join fights
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>>561351448
Almost like it's not actually a real counter. Even if you can get away, you're giving Silver and her team huge amounts of space. You just gonna run away from Silver while you're trying to contest urn? While her team's taking your walker? Okay, you do that. She works better at higher MMR because players actually fight over objectives rather than mindlessly brawling for forty minutes.
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Do we have any concrete idea of how the ranking works?
Like should i be focusing on my 3 "high relative to skill" characters only or should i be playing as many different ones of the lowest skill ones.

not that it matters that much but i'm curious cus i've been playing those 3 for a while, wins and losses and my rank hasn't moved at any point
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>WTF HOW DO I COUNTER SILVER

still reigning supreme in shitlow
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i've found it quite easy to counter silver by shooting her
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I like to imagine
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Playing McGinnis just feels bad. My turrets do nothing and my heal is too stationary and small for my team do just accept the free 5k health.
>ult
On a 70 second cooldown.
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>>561351151
>4 heroes I play in the lowest tier
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>>561353182
"Shitlow" being DNS and Eternus apparently
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>>561353424
just echo shard walls every 20 seconds. people who hardly wall really only think "muh turrents" "muh dispenser!" fucking yoshi adding in 2 turrents was not needed but i do like it. that was the only way he could get drones to look at the skill and read it, i miss when i would use it as a stun.
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>>561353487
I put them there because people pick them and do nothing on them 90% of the time
It is very rare for me not to see a paradox/silver at >22k in a 40 minute game. Happens eeevery time



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