Thread for the discussion of Honkai Impact 3rdREAD THIS BEFORE ASKING ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S MOST LIKELY HEREhttps://rentry.org/vffr2https://rentry.org/hi3newbieguidehttps://rentry.org/hi3newbieresourceshttps://rentry.org/hi3resourceshttps://rentry.org/ElfSkillUpgrades>Story guide for newcomershttps://hoyostans.be/explore/honkai-impact-3rd/consumers-guide-hi3>Shattered Swords VNhttps://youtube.com/channel/UCyeHz1CGgJkXJd-c7lw_RiQ>Latest CN supply, event, abyss, and MA cycles:https://marisaimpact.com/calendar85>v8.7 Passage to New Dawns Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nSjq8rQAPo >Raiden Mei's New S-rank Battlesuit Xentinel · Dawnbearing Crescent Previewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn2XCpAl3pc >Xentinel · Dawnbearing Crescent Tutorial Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2yk1sy78tc > Every Valkyrie, Every World, All at Oncehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR0sKwLqexU Previous:>>561755810
Bronya soon
Sushi pits
>>562548037sex with susie hag
>>562548572ER if it was even better
Seele!
>>562548037imagine the smell
Springeele!
Shiteele!
Awesomeele!
Fine... Seele is awesome.
Snex.
Seelex
Akari
>>562548037
Xier!
Xier~
>problem is having an unhealthy dependence on someone else and character development is independently deciding to separate from her >in order to further this development, the character will now become a camerawoman with an unhealthy obsession over another new character, effectively replacing one drug addiction with another and losing all semblance of independent thought
The great Ricey!
>>562595574Mei had no obsession to elysia btwHer entire goal was to save and help Kiana and she did exactly thatI say that as someone who recently finished the game that Mei likes no one other than Kiana. Even Bronya is more of a teammate than a friend to her.And pretty much all the flamechasers flat out said Mei was doing this for her special someone waiting outside.
>>562595574Why did Moon arc make Mei getting powerups from Elysia a bigger and flashier event than reuniting with Kiana? The latter should be the bigger deal.
>>562595931The latter was a bigger deal
>>562595931>mei was in it only for the powerupnot cuckshitlysia getting tossed aside like a used condom kek
>>562595926Fat fuck Water Djinn.
Leave the Water Djinn alone
>>562596226No.
>>562595990Not with all the big flashy effects and getting a powerup she should've gotten at the end of beating HoC. Mei basically became "omg Elysia" after the Elysian Realm arc. In moon arc Mei was constantly talking about Elysia. Instead of getting a proper reunion with Kiana she got one with Elysia. The time they gave her and Elysia reuniting was more than what she had with Kiana. Even during Part 1.5 Mei was trying to talk about Elysian Realm times with Griseo who said she moved on already.
>>562595832>Even bronya is more of a teammate than a friend EXACTLY This is why I've noticed that everyone is talkative and open to entropy except for mei. Mei is the most reserved character in the entire series and her only emotional whimsy or happy moments are with kiana. she is more of an auntie to everyone but only seems to be happy when and joyful when kiana is around. My guess is that even though Mei has matured it's most likely that deep down she likes knightly brave people like kiana and that why she's most friendly with her han everyone else and doesn't even bother to get to know others. She's more of a family type person than a friend person, if that makes sense.
>>562596725This bullshit has been debunked so many times and I know trolls likes you refuse to bother to read. You're either a fuki fag who's mad Kiana is with Mei or a elymei turd who's angry Mei never cared about anyone other than Kiana. Mei's entire dialogues were about always being one with Kiana despite being faraway and her so called "reunion" was her and Elysia talking about Kiana. And the recent events and main story sum the fact that Mei has always had Kiana in her mind and there's been no mention of elysia or flame chasers anyone. You're still stuck up on something worthless 3 years ago that Mei did even care about that much.>omg ElysiaThat's just your projection because you're an Elysia fan and wished Mei was also one but unfortunately for you she isn't.
>>562595664snex
Leave FuKi alone
>>562597092Do NOT the rice cake.
>>562597194The devs took this so seriously that they proceeded to shit on fuki/meihua/elymei trannies continuously hoping those cucks would eventually kill themselves for being genshit tourists.
>>562597043>You're still stuck up on something worthless 3 years agowelcome to /hig/
>>562597318Based Jobnya onee chan spouting facts
>>562597043>This bullshit has been debunked so many times and I know trolls likes you refuse to bother to read.>That's just your projection because you're an Elysia fanThese are the words of delusional shippers. Everything >>562596725 wrote was COMPLAINING they gave Elysia too much attention and how much it reduces her into a cheerleader for Elysia. it's complaining how they made a big spectacle over a big powerup that should've been given earlier just so they can shoehorn another Elysia scene into Final Arc.Mei spent far too much attention on Elysia including this fantasy "What if Kiana and Bronya met her" sequence. This should've been Mei's story, but the only thing she "gained" from ER was an emotional fixation on Elysia. And it went on forever because oh Elysia is just so complex and you couldnt possibly describe her shortly– Her creator loved her so much and stuck her everywhere, showed how absolutely everyone loved her, etc. The only reason why she didn't solve all the problems of PE and didn't fly out of the realm of the dead and beat Kevin with one blow and didn't fuck after Mei is that her creator wouldn't have been allowed to. The Final Arc shouldn't have Elysia shoehorned in.
>>562597645A whole lot of words just to say nothing of value. Elysia was nothing but a crap mary sue and Mei does not care about her. Your er and ee trauma has made you mentally ill and delusional.
>>562597645Mei's boobs are too small
>>562597645>shoehorn another Elysia scene into Final Arc>Her creator loved her so much and stuck her everywherefunny how during the finale you could be dismissed for saying that but now amphoreus exists its hard to deny
Elysia fans as a whole never gave two shits about the story lol. They are seasonal tourists. They they don't like elymei either. They just like using mei to prop up the unlikable mary sue. If Eden was more popular they did be using her but it's not the case.They're basically jealous of Kiana being the mc, having Mei, and good character development, none of which elysia has so they like stealing Kiana's stuff to boost elysia because that's the only way they can cope.Over the years I've always noted the biggest kiana haters are always elysia fags simply because kiana won and had the best story. And most of them are usually twitter fags. It is as if they think kiana is real or something and cucked their self insert lolElysia shouldn't have been in Kebin arc. Her story was done and she's been dead for 50,000 years. It's like if Himeko kept on showing up. shows up are just plain weird. It's like the story got hijacked by a different writer - probably that Shaoji guy I keep hearing of - because of how out of character Mei suddenly becomes, especially in that leadup to her becoming the next Herrscherr of Origin, no, I don't need a minute-long speech in a moviegame walking sequence where she gives endless praise to Elysia during her two appearances.They made Mei too obsessed over Elysia and couldn't remove her from the story after she's done like Himeko. Pink Welt Joyce gets way more than Joyce ever did.
>>562597318Stupid Jobnya onee chan spouting lies
>>562597645>the only thing she "gained" from ER was an emotional fixation on Elysiafake and gay btwdidn't happen stop spreading misinfo falseflagger
uh oh cuckshitlysia tranny melty~
>>562597645>Mei spent far too much attention on Elysia including this fantasy "What if Kiana and Bronya met her" sequence.Yeah what was the big point of this anyway? That Chapter 34 Treasure Hunt too. The FCs in general took up too much attention after their arc was done. Ironically, Kevin is one of the least developed because he just sits on a chair and aura farms most of the time.
>>562597645>mfw the cryptoelysiafags who can't accept elsyai helped ruin mei's charcter are replying to this post showing they never played moon arc because they don't recognize the scenes you mention>mfw they realize everyone here doesn't like elysia so they're trying to do damage control about elysia's shit factor was isolated to herself instead of contaminating everything she touches>mfw mei got rid of her horns because elysia touched them and tainted them
>>562597984The recent kiamei event destroyed those freaks as well as the hua freak so now they're copy pasting the same old cope. Notice how they bounce off each other and samefag. Ig Ely schizo came back from hrtg or it's the anti p2 schizo stirring up shit again after hi3 topping the bilbili chart broke him.
>mind broken by kiameiThis is how you know it's hoyoverse's strongest canon pairing when loser cucks like fuki and elymei turds are still crying and about it to this day lol
>>562597645>>562597854>>562598140I kneel before the truth. Elysia destroyed what semblance of redeeming value Mei had as a character. Mei shouldn't talk about Elysia ever again afterwards but she still does. This needs fixing.
>>562598152I just know the recent official kiana and mei arts plethora made xarisa and his discord want to kill themselves. This one in particular makes their blood boil.
>>562598375>but she still doesWhere? 3 years ago? LmfaooooooooShow the evidence because it's nothing but Kiana that comes from her mouth, samefag.
Honkai literally started treating their big bads like Saturday morning cartoon villains, neglecting half of the already tiny cast of characters, turning one of the deadliest enemies into a meme character and bringing back "china numbuh 1" the character and recently the writer turned his new OC into a not-Jesus character.
Part 2 story never gets discussed here.
>>562598140You're right. These Elysiafags think they can do damage control by saying>NOOOOOOOO ELYSIA DIDN'T SHIT OTHER CHARACTERS TOO like she isn't a worse virus than Herrscher of Corruption. She even infected HSR and ZZZ, now on her way to killing Genshin. She even tried and failed in GGZ. They can't accept everything Elysia touches dies.
>>562598538They can't show any evidence because it doesn't exist kekypow. Kiamei's success breeds jealousy hence the bitching and moaning.
The removal of Elysia is such a universal positive that Part 2 got better once the dancing cheerful Senadina was removed and then changed to be less Elysia once she was brought back. It helps Entropy in a short time is a less shit character than Mei became, a victim of Durandal and Elysia both ruining her arcs. But that's how you recognize the Elysiafags in disguise. They deny the harm Elysia has done to everybody else. They cope by saying she's "just" a Mary Sue like she's harmless outside herself.
>562598648Case in point. Told you the anti P2 schizo was purposely stirring up shit just to say at the end that P2 doesn't get discussed.Ironically part 2 mind broken the schizo beyond help.
samsara of 3 shitposting retards
That's just the usual
For me its ElyKia
>>562598842I just wish people would move on.
>>562598674Did they get their 350 crystals?
>>562598657>She even infected HSR and ZZZ, now on her way to killing Genshin.Even HSR thinks her personality is fake as fuck
>>562598743>>562598842These are the two only sensible posts here. Also I have looked at hsr threads time to time so I can tell the crossposting elysia raiders made these >>562597645>>562597854>>562598140 posts long with samefiles before so it's kind of a mini raid. Maybe it really is anger at hi3 not eosing and Yuri becoming center of attention. I'm guessing the censorship profit schizo is also in on this. It's beyond me how our niche old game can piss off so many people at once.
For me it's Theresa
Found it, but i dont think this is Sa
>>562599098It's literally one elysia tranny who is also the censorship tranny, one fuki tranny, and one anti p2 tranny. The playbook they follow is so obvious just ignore till they tire themselves.
>>562599163the artist said it is
The winner takes it all!The loser (elymei, fuki, meihua, elykia) has to fallIt's simple and it's plainWhy should I complain?
>elyfag replying to himself>elyfag coping with the fact that elysia ruins other characters >elyfag doesn't play the game because he can't recognize scenes from >>562598029>elyfag thinks nobody can tell he's an elyfag when elyfags typically don't play the game and frequently defend elysia's toxic influence on the gameI bet you liked how the final Part 1 Herrschers looked so samey elyfag.
Sa sucks!
>>562599338Ooohhh~Mei's birthday is coming soon!We'll be getting so much more kiamei art AGAIN!!!!I can't wait. Just hope the site doesn't crash like last year lel
Leylah sucks!
Leylah is cucking Leylah!
>>562598842uouyun's one patch story made her an instant hit so no wonder our game topped. If they continue writing like this we'll be taking off even more and could soon get a part 3 too.
>>562599371That's how they behave. If they played the game, read the side manga, and read the VNs, they would know the fullest extent of Elysia's damage. Her whole core concept of>1st Herrscher is an unlikey good person and dies for everyoneis exactly how Welt Joyce's story goes. They would know Elysia retroactively shits on Joyce's story through trying to take credit for him being good. Elysiafags usually say crap like>B-But I s-still like her knowing sh-she's a mary sue!!!!and defend this via trying to say her bad writing doesn't impact anyone else. But she does. Pic is impossible because PE HoC is redeemable in older stories but not anymore.
>>562597645>What if Kiana and Bronya met herA scene from the game he never seen before because he doesn't play it. He's trying to gaslight you into thinking you're an Elysiafag all because you played through the story.
I'm guessing next four big units after Seele are Nahralab, Leylah, Senadina, and finally Kiana for the decade milestone. Maybe for Apho will be seen as Kiana's dream and then she'll be the mc of it.
>>562599163The fuck, the artist made a Sageele manga.
>>562598538>>but she still does>Where? 3 years ago? Lmfaoooooooo>Show the evidence because it's nothing but Kiana that comes from her mouth, samefag.NTA but didn't recently in Part 2 in a recent thread anons posted lines talking to her where she indirectly references elysia?
>>562599982That one line just to hint her upcoming suit just like for sushang, helia and Rita. All her story lines are about Kiana >>562599871Nahralab seems difficult right now. She's but others I agree.
>>562599636Youyun is a pink character done right for the first time. Not to mention she's quirky, smart, funny, helpful, and super cute. After Helia and Cora's arc, hers is my fav right now.
>>562599871Seele's 8.9 and 9.1 is the 10th anniversary so not sure how you'd fit 3 suits in one patch.Unless they demote the brown one to A rank and discount one of the others.
>>562600067>That one line>That's just ONE LINE>You Are Here>That's just ONE SCENE>That's just ONE ENTIRE STORY ARCPic is me to the fact that >>562599982 answered and excuses were made because you're an Elysiafag leading us down a slippery slope that we're already too far down on. Her new battlesuit wasn't enough? Updated Divine Keys and Astral Ring added wasn't enough? Now you're trying to justify the smallest mention in a story she has 0 reason to be mentioned in?
>still samefagging and desperate to derail P2 talksman cuckshitlysia trannies are pathetic
>>562600468Kiamei broke the poor bloke. Can you blame him? It's the only way he can keep e***** relevant in a thread when no one cares about and is looking forward to the upcoming yuri patches.
>>562600373Elysiafags will never be satisfied. They're hollow and empty like her character
>mfw anon defending the mention of elysia in p2 where she doesn't belong
>>562599283Link? I found that picture on Arca
>>562600636I hope Mei's patch made bucks. I seriously need a 5* skin for her.
I support the deletion of all things Elysia in this game. And I mean all things. Not a trace remaining.
>>562600708https://x.com/saltylycheeeee_/status/2035238800268698076
>mfw elysiafags still trying to justify any mention of her in Part 2
>>562600945They want Part 2 tainted by her
>>562597485Part 2 is a worthless addition to the series that did nothing but burnt all the goodwill the last of Mihoyo's old fans had. A mockery of what the game originally stood for.
>562599982>562600373>562600689>562600884*yawn*least obvious samefagging raid and fake ass melties
>>562600973I okay okay I'll reply to your earlier post >>562599098You want another (You)?
>>562600973>>562601000Least obvious mobileposter
>>562601049meds
>he defends the presence of pink cancer known as elysia
>>562600923thank you
>>562600923Crazy Part 1.5fag. Reminds me of the Sinfag.
Always be aware of Elysiafags. They don't play HI3 so they don't suffer when Elysia ruins another story.
>>562601153>he thinks anyone is fooled
>>562601153Hello Elysiafag
>>562600973>>562601049>>562601071>>562601162>>562601173Part 2 wonF*ki, El*mei, Johnkai and captain lostNice try falseflagger
>>562601276>he replies to posts shitting on elysia because he can't openly admit to being a pink cancer lover
>>562601173True enough. Just look at Twitter. Elysiafags are often at best Genshin tourists.
>>562601276Correct. Kiamei wonnered.
>now he's falseflagging as a Part 2 fag when everyone is telling him how much Elysia doesn't belong in Part 2 and he's seething Elyfags everyone.
>mfw elysiafags defending mei mentioning her on the ship in part 2
>>562601368you and your two elysia fans from hrtg are delusional anyways we'll keep getting part 2 stuff with more kiamei and you'll keep wasting your life crying about censorship crap and elysia losing
>>562597854That's very true. Elysa "fans" don't care about other characters besides as an extension to her. Why is anyone disagreeing with this?
>>562601594Disagreers defend Mei bringing her up in P2
>>562601171nips latch onto the side characters a lot even lamp gets their attention
>>562601254>>562601265>>562601368>>562601390>>562601496>>562601521Oof the raid is hard with this one. Keep dancing monkeys.
>>562601368He can't admit it.
This is my reaction to the suffering of Elysiafags.
Mei raped Kiana
>>562601730>anything anti elysia is a raidNice try elyshitter
>>562601730>True enough. Just look at Twitter. Elysiafags are often at best Genshin tourists.Not him but the fuck is wrong about that post? He's right.
>>562601730Just talk about part 2 and notice these fags desperately try to bring attention back to e*lysia it's the same playbook in hsr. No one cares about that turd but they're desperate to try to keep her relevant and call the other an Elysiafag. They'll never talk about part 2 and the moment you mention the recent story they post walls and walls of text about e*lysia no one asked for.
>>562601730>>562601917Least obvious samefag
>>562601730>Twitter filenameGo back
>>562601852See the filename he knows he's been called out.
>>562602056That makes sense.
>>562601917Duh they support shitlysia and anti yuri so obviously they're mad about part 2 because it's singlehandedly cucks hetshitters and cuckshitlysia kekypow
>>562601852>Not himLmfao enjoy samefagging and raiding I have groceries to do.But remember part 2 and kiamei won. Bronseele will also be next so keep dancing like monkeys
Bully the twitterfag
>>562602162>>Not him>Lmfao enjoy samefaggingYou didn't answer me. What was wrong about what he said? Are you still posting pics from Twitter? Are they even your own pictures?
>>562602175I'll remember to buy some extra tissues for you when Adam also gets removed from Apho, xarisa. You poor poor cuck.
>Elysiafag still proving they don't play because they don't recognize game scenes and they post pics from twitter
>Elysiafags thinks anyone cares or WANTS APHO aka the reason DMC sucks now
>aphoIt sucked. I don't care much about it besides the fact that it destroyed pic.
>>562602259>>562602329>>562602259(You)
Me smashing elyfags who defend any mention of her in part 2.
>Elysiafags still never play a free game
>>562602549>>562602574How many times are you gonna spam the same posts elyschizo?
APHOfags caused this.
>>562602606all day today since its sunday and they have nothing better to do
>>562602549>05:03>>562602574>05:43Apparently a samefag>>562602606>06:08>>562602734>08:24Yet this isn't supposed to be a samefag
The tears of Elyshitters.
>mfw there are anons who think elysiafags aren't mostly twitter tourists
>>562602606Until hi3 eoses. He's mad game is still going strong and elysia is repeatedly getting cucked. Basically the same Kiana/kiamei haters from 2021/2022 mad elysia keeps getting cucked.
>>562603034>13:31Interesting
>>562603034based 8.7 singlehandedly destroying cuckshitlysia and anti p2 freaks.
>>562603163>15:52What does this mean?
>>562603034>Until hi3 eoses.GGZ is still alive. No matter how hard you try Elysiafag, this game isn't dying. Go back to Twitter because you aren't going to play the game. Your falseflag attempts don't work because every time you've been called out or anons mentioned scenes from the game, you don't recognize them. You're obvious.
>>562603034Funny things is these days even the hetero reddit and pink reddit both are shitting on Marisa and he stopped updating since asmadeus and nekonews threw him out in terms of guides and news. So yeah no views and more yuri patches sent him in a spiral. No wonder he's super angry. The game won't let him catch a break. >>562603347Hi Marisa! You accidentally posted the ship you hate though!
>he admits he checks reddit
>>562603402kekypow just goes to show you devs are based and no matter how much these falseflagging anti p2/ cuckshitlysia trannies cry kiamei will be superior and part 2 will keep on going for the next two years at the very least
Happy Easter, /hig/bros!
This belongs to Kiana and never Elysia. Nobody who defends Elysia receiving mentions in Part 2 deserve any Mei's ass, not even GGZ/
>20:31>26:27
>>562603751BUNNY BUNNY BUNNY
>>562603706It's always these hours when xarisaxord is usually raiding. Nothing new.
>3>0>:>0>8
>>562603898epitome of pathetic too lolhe'll kill himself if kiamei gets exported to more game the melties would be delicious
>tfw he thinks he's fooling anyone>he could've spent this time playing hi3>but he spent it on twitter>elysiafags will never stop being a thorn in the community
>>562604056He could always just stick to wuwa, arknights, and hsr since hi3 is made for yuri fans and not self inserters. It's always been that way.
This is video is from a game Elysia cultists never played.
>>562603786>>562604219>>562604325>>562602519
>>562604283nah he'd rather waste his time here crying about mei being obsessed with elysia which she never was lol because she's mad his pink shit got cucked and xhe never played the game and still doesn't
>all those reply times
>>562604560>mei being obsessed with elysia which she never wasSigh this going to trigger the same 100+ post elycord meltdown again.
>>562604752lol cuckshitlysia trannies seething for their pink turd is funny
>>562604560But Mei was never obsessed with Elysia. Only a tourist who can't read or didn't play would say otherwise.
Remember the recent anon who played through Part 1 and his response on what happened. Reminder that the one with long reply times goes against an immediate player who has fresh memories of what he played. The gap between a player and a Twitter poster is far.
>>562603751Happy Easter!
>>562605221Well then you have no idea that the resident elysia schizos love to gaslight themselves into thinking otherwise since it's their only cope. You can see for yourself how just one line of Mei mentioning her to hint the battlesuit was dragged on and on to be used as a fake melty to show as if it meant something when it didn't. The elysiafags aka >>562605241 is stuck in the past and there's no cure for it. But yeah the actual problem is that they are ER and EE fans who actually like Elysia hence got mad when Kiana and Mei are posted, or the Mei's lines about Kiana are talked about. This has been going on for years and it never changes. And that one kiamei hater keeps posting the knee screenshot. Nothing to do other than ignore and let them shitpost.
>>562605241I hope he's doing alright right now. It's nice to see anons pick up & play the game. Even his opinion was that Elysia took up way too much & Shaoji couldn't shut up about her.
>>562605454What the point though when the story itself is kiamei and every event is kiameisuccess really breeds jealousy
>he didn't hide his reply times or change his writing style>he's putting even less effort than stealing pics from twitter>he could've downloaded the game by now
>>562604748stupid pretty woman
can i post
>Leylah > Sena>Sena > LeylahWait, so it's groomers all the way down?
We were too late. We couldn't save Mei from being infected.
>>562605241Umm wrong. Completely wrong. I have yet to see any newbie be an elymei fan. So many newbies here including myself didn't find a single meaningful interaction between ely or mei. They all become kiamei shippers instead. So what point are you exactly trying to make?
>>562607403There is no point. 4chan is a venting place for losers. Elymei, fuki, and anti p2 schizos get dogwalked on all social media platforms so this is the only place where those three faggots can circlejerk and find solace in each other's arms. The biggest losers have the loudest voice hence you should ignore their bait. By agreeing with each other they try to find fake happiness since the game and devs refuse to give them any.
>>562607621Well that's just stupid. I should complete abyss and MA. For me it's starting to become a chore especially when Mei isn't getting more weathers :/. Also I wonder if it's possible to complete all missions because I need the special 100 coupons to get Luna's wedding dress. But I only have 12 days and I can't wait for the next year.
>>562605241I was there and I agree with him that Elysia is too intrusive and Shaoji shilling her sucks. Too bad the obvious samefagger replying to you wasn't at that thread and knows he wasn't in favor of Elysia's scenes. He was too busy at Twitter pretending he's ever played HI3.
Ignore all this schizo talk, I'm still confused about the start of this Chapter.So, a Traveller, Litost and Nana arrived on a planet, and met Princess Sena and a goddess called Leylah. On that planet a dragon left a scale that caused everyone to become immortal which led to war etc. So Princess Sena left with Nana, Litost and some others and found a new planet, which became Luoxing, and Sena began to raise a new Leylah to take over a perfect world in honor of her/ her fathers wish?What happened to the original Traveller and Leylah on Princess Sena's world then?Also what about Sera? I was under the impression that she was also an alien who came with Sena and Litost, but in her summary of arriving on Luoxing, Sena mentions that only Nana and Litost remained from the original travellers.
the lesson here is that no matter which side you're on mei's story just fucking sucks
>dudu>stealing screencaps from a fucking dudufag You Mary Sue cocksuckers are all alike. You always pick the worst characters.
>>562608321the part about not-leylah is more or less just a schizo dream about sena's life getting flipped, nana was the dragon and litost and sena were laquadarians
>>562608125It's laughable honestly. He tried this on reddit and x using captains Ai slop and got btfo'd. Now he's trying to do the same here and his two lackeys are bouncing off him.
Reminder that Mei cannot be saved because the stench of Scatrandal and Scatlysia surrounds her Coral Island and Elysian Realm story arcs. The fact that she tried talking to Griseo about the simulation world means she is too far gone to save. The lesson is that if you keep on bringing deceased simulations long after they're relevant, you are part of the reason APHO killed Devil May Cry, a far superior franchise.
>>562608321and for sera just look up phobos and deimos, she was already there before anybody was
>>562608497Why is that I've never heard a single good thing about Marisa?>>562608225What the fuck are you talking about?>>562608326Disagreed. >>562608337I take ss of all chibis what the fuck?>>562608321I was too busy farming xtals for part 2eele but will hit the chapter soon but first things first.
Alive thread
>mfw now that dudu and pink got their battlesuits, they'll never get another one for years >mfw anons will finally play the game instead of grabbing pics from twitter
>>562608753Because there's nothing good about him or his friends >>562608528>>562608871Also ignore the anti mei schizos aka hua schizos, hua won't get a patch or even a dkey hence the melty about Mei patch.
If the post disagrees with this statement>Elysiashitters are Twitter tourists who don't play HI3You know it's one of them and can disregard his self replies.
>>562608985I don't give a shit man. I just want my Mei 5* skin.>>562609057I assume this is me? Bitch I don't give a shit about your discourse. You're full of shit along with most of anons here.
>>562609057Good to see antichristlysia worshippers like you getting bullied and shat on here and everywhere else.
>>562608985>8:11:12>>562609250>8:16:27>>562609438>8:19:56
Need some water inkheiko and bauer? You both seem particularly unhappy for elymei and fuki today.....
what was the point of this carnival dream sequence with vii-v?
>you're full of shit along with most of anons hereLooking at the state of this thread, this is true.
I'm full of Seele...
Part 2 outdid itself. It's even better than Part 1 er and ee.
>>562609904>5.2
>>562609536Gottem
>>562607621Amazing how you just openly admit that you use these websites and thinking you've pwned them or something to that effect.>dogwalkedtyped like a true tumblrina
>>562610021Yeah flamechasers got a lot of 1 stars but thankfully Part 2 saved the game.
>>562608528Maybe they should've fixed up her facial expressions or emotions for a start. By the end of Elysium, Mei was acting very emotionally, and it was cool to see her finally get legitimately pissed off when Pardo got killed, or seriously weep at Elysia's sacrifice. Then she meets Kiana, and it's just... this, most of the time. I definitely blame the writers, because I know how insane Sawashiro's acting range is, and she wouldn't do it this way unless instructed. Then look when she's with Kiana again and the voice direction makes her the boredest fucker in the cast. Who directed her? The only emotion Mei was allowed to express was sucking off flame chasers even after the arc was done.Also weird is ironically how little shits she gives about Hua. They do have a scene where Griseo and Mei meet for the first time, because, as much as Mei likes to pretend that she made friend in ER, she was basically talking to a computer program, and the only thing Mei can say to her is ER shit, and then she ask Griseo if she want to hear about it, and Griseo basically tell her that she already moved on and she don't give a fuck. Even the fucking flamechaser don't give a fuck or cling to ER like she does.So if she wants anyone to talk about it why not the one breathing character she went to school with who also had a ChatGTP? Is it because Hua has a character outside her chatbot clone?They fucked up writing Mei. Her thoughts are "oh yea kiana but golly do i miss flamechaers if only there were here" as Kiana is speaking to her right there. What is this writing?
>>5626101913rd never reached below Genshin's ratings there until part 2 happened. I think Genshin hovers around 6 while HI3 used to be 7-8.
>tumblirna>owned>triggered>griseo spammingwhy are you spazzing out marisacalm down little guy need a hug?
>>562609904You just triggered the meltdown again >>562610021>>562610186>>562610249We're officially back to square one of fake melty.
Amazing how you barely contained your anger while typing that to the point of committing spelling mistakes.
Cute and canonPoor poor cuckllysiaNowhere in sightNowhere in mindBuried and utterly forgotten......:"(
Another raped year for the deserving.
>>562610249You triggered the Miefags who can't accept she's one of the worst written characters of the main cast.
>>562610267And now it's top one because part 2 is too good. Maybe fcs should've had better writing if they wanted to top charts lol
>>562610191>>562610249>The goal of the Flame Chasers is to destroy the Honkai.>They destroyed HI3.>And they even destroyed HSR.It all makes sense. They weren't talking about the in-universe Honkai. They meant the franchise.
>>562610631>>562610527I'm genuinely not surprised elysia fags also hate part 2 and anything to do with Kiana and Mei. It's definitely mental illness at this point. Those ratings are volatile yet getting triggered this much is a sign how angry they are at no males and Yuri.
>>562610443>barely contained anger>6 hour melty on johnkai and captain getting thrown in the scatbinLmaoooooo
>>562610631That's a weekly buzz ranking retard.
>>562610249Doesn't everyone here agree Mei was badly written? Much of it was a lack of proper development into World Serpent. Her whole deal was trying to get through Project Stigma as soon as possible because Kevin promised it'll make her and Kiana go back to normal. Coral Island was supposed to be about her seeing Owl going all>Fuck the world, I save the Herrscher I lovebeing a harmful mindset she's in but the execution sucks. The Elysia arcs don't really develop Mei at all and she's just a camerawoman for other characters. If it weren't for Genshin existing by the time ER does, I'd say it's real life foreshadowing for the self-insert MC cameraman shit going on in Genshin and HSR where they don't develop, don't have much character, and/or a cudgel people use to hit problems with. Except Mei didn't stop Herrscher of Corruption so she isn't even the latter. It was clear Mihoyo had changed their minds on what they wanted to do with her. Part of it was because of CN reception. They were not happy and there was some kind of petition. Rimestar arc then sucked. Then Elysia arc had Elysia be the main focus rather than Mei's own development.
>>562610665Kakurenbo dayo.
>>562610527Pretty kiamei>>562610884Not me. Nagazora was good. Even recent event fleshed her out. It seems more of jealousy that your favorite character, hua most likely, isn't getting any attention. Mei is well written.Elysia's arcs only proved Elysia and Flame chasers were badly written.Mei herself improved and became a better person for Kiana.
>>562610864>implyingI haven't touched a single gacha ever since I dropped all of my Mihoyo games. Maybe you should stop playing apologetics to multibillion dollar sellouts. It's embarrassing twitter-kun
>>562611097>Elysia's arcs only proved Elysia and Flame chasers were badly written.Mei herself improved and became a better person for KianaFucking this lol. Mei is extremely popular and that's the reason cuckshitlysia fans wanted her but lost hence they hate her too. Fuki and elymei fans are each others friends because same cucks of a feather flock together.
>>562611097>Mei is well written.This is the first time I've ever heard this in all these threads. And I've been here around Part 1.5-ish when I discovered this general existed.
>mei >well written
>>562611131Of course you don't play hi3. You never did. You're a tourist afterall and an anti part 2 schizo. And don't use seele for your shitposts.
What's with the Twitter filenames? You grabbing these from Twitter or Hoyolabs?
>>562611281>>562611301Maybe try playing the game with your eyes instead of your ass. >this general 4chan is full of schizos like you of course you'll circlejerk the same fake narrative since no one else puts up with your bullshit. In the small time Mei actually had for herself she was well written. Elysia hogging the space actually shows how awful she was not Mei.
Holy shit i need to take meds or something thinking about Mei and how they ruiined her character with Elysian realm shit gets me so mad, like really mad,, i was just sitting chilling watching a honkek stream and suddently i think about Mei how ruined she was and how she never got a rematch with Durandel gets me mad, the fact that she has more to do with flame chasers more then with her orginal freinds gets me pissed if i was a chinesne fan i would be a schizo sending letters of conplaint to the their office to the writers.Sure they are trying to fix her with these Kiamei events but its a bandaid issue fix for Meis ruined characters "OHH HURR DURR SHES A MANTIS" im so fucking annoyed we could hace spend that time with mei in real world with her dad or helping her freinds from shadows but we bearly got that and now she is just standing around like a retard while kiana is in a coma and she does fucking nothing because what she learnd from elysia that that she trusts Kiana and that sacrfice is okay wich is the most brain dead character development to date, aside from Mei .i fucking hate they included litosts in the new chapter in sucha weird fucking way of "ohh but you have litost to share these moments with they could have picked litterly anyone else but they picked litost to be one of the orginal arrivals to the planet with Leylah and the dragons its just so fucking jarring seeing him after how personal it was bettwen Sena and Leylah.but Back to Mei im fucking mad im angry its one of the most annoying things i have seen in writing and video games to date. Im about to crash out on Meis writing and the story isnt even focused on her and dosnt matter now because its not like they can go back in time to fix her but it fucking hurts how much better she could have been instead of being a Flamechaser slop and hoyos dedicated girl to whore out fot self inserts
>>562611281Me here longer. She was criticized for being useless, then some improvement at Nagazora, then everyone hated Coral Island, then she wasn't really present despite being the PoV character for ER because she was just a jerk cameraman. Bronya was laughed at for jobbing but Mei was somewhere between wasted potential to ignored.
>>562611497Another regurgitated copy pasta. It's been three years. Elysia lost. Move on.
>>562611483>In the small time Mei actually had for herself she was well writtenWhen was that? Thunders over Nagazora? Developing>muh honkai energy is energypowers in Rimestar then never using it again? Showing up momentarily for Theatre of Domination then screwing off?
>>562611362Yeah sure whatever makes you sleep at night.
>>562611483>4chan is full of schizos like you of course you'll circlejerk the same fake narrative What about the anons who newly played and found her lacking?
wake me up when the fuki and elymei cucks melty ends
Helia is better done than Mei. Both are noted by other characters to be similar but Helia is much better.
>562611483No Twitter for you. Play first.
>year 2026>fags are still crying about MeiAll I need to know she's better and well written and your faves didn't get the attention she got.
>>562611097Nagazora Mei was also retarded, plus she barely appeared in Arc City, all she did was run after Kiana and cry. Arc City was a massive Kiana arc, Mei was barely a factor. WS and WS Mei having shit writing isn't Elysia's fault, Coral Island released before ER was a thing. Mei has poor writing had nothing to do with Elysia, Mei has simply always been the worst written Honkai girl. I can't think of an Arc where Mei actually had good writing, all her best moments are more Kiana's writing with Mei as an orbiter.
nu-/hig/ be like
>the Twitterfag is a newfag projecting and calling others elymei rather than knowing this place regularly bashes that pairing and criticizes their writing It all makes sense. That's why he's never played HI3.
>>562611784Funnily the problems mentioned about her are Elysia and flamechaser problems along with owl and Anna and durandal proboems. Nothing of that is directly Mei's fault. But Ig stubbornness and ego issues so they choose to take their anger out on Mei because it's easy than trying to understand her.
who are you quoting?
Mei's reasoning doesn't make sense because WS doesn't make sense after Mei joined. The WS/Mei writting is complete garbage, with Coral Island being widely considered the worst Honkai arc, and for good reason. I'm sorry your favourite character got treated like absolute dog shit, but Mei is just poorly written, completely independently from ER.
The Twitterfag still can't read. People cite specific scenes with screenshots or moments about Mei specifically and not others but he still misreads.
>>562612048Spoken like a true hua cuck. Keep circlejerking and crying while we get Mei stuff and you get..... Hmmm oh yeah nothing!
>>562612119If he could read, maybe he could've installed the game to play it.
>muh Hua>he thinks there's no way any anon could think Mei's the worst written main cast member if it weren't for characters uninvolved in her arc
>>562611845I mean, they gave her an arc and it was the shittest arc in the game. It's fine, you can still like Mei as a character while still recognizing she's one of Honkai's worst written characters.Running and crying isn't a character writing, if that was the case that Blonde shit from Demon Slayer would be the best written manga character. You could replace Mei with a balloon with a frowny face on and the arc wouldn't change. She was a prop. Mei is just as superficial as the FC's, she's a Kiana obsessed satellite, remove Kiana and she doesn't stand up as a character. I bash Bronya for being tied down by Seele, but she at least has an arc (bad at that though) outside of Seele in the HoR stuff.
>projecting
>from anti p2 to anti kiamei to falseflagging to anti meiNot entertaining more of these knuckleheads. Sorry your favs got thrown in the scatbin while Mei keeps shining.
>schizoid
The fact of the matter is Mei just one of the worst written characters in the story. She doesn't even really have a dedicated arc, she has like three which just stop and start and she's never really the highlight. I'm still convinced they bailed out on an edgy arc for her during her WS phase because they got cold feet on making one of their poster girls actually morally questionable, it's why WS hard pivot from nuking cities to basically being good guys who fight stupidly evil Herrschers while Mei is a member.Bronya also has some pretty poor writing, but at least she has a complete story with her saving Seele, it just peaked way too early then they just floundered around with her doing busy work, Mei doesn't even get that.
>>562612381>because they got cold feet on making one of their poster girls actually morally questionablCuz CN reception. They didn't take it well.
>>562612442That explains too much.
>>562612048>>562611845>>562612249>>562612381>coping
>Mei is the star is sushang's bday threadYeah looks like you three fags are on a lot of copium about Mei.
>>562612381What surprises me the most is how different Mihoyo writes Mei compared to Kiana. When it's Kiana, they have no issue having her own up to her mistakes and sometimes even take responsibility for things she didn't even do herself. Meanwhile Mei never has to face any consequences and take responsibility for her mistakes. I just don't understand how they can write a character so well and then screw up another character so badly. I just don't get it. Kiana grows as a person and forgives her but Mei usually doesn't get comeuppance for anything.
>>562612623For me it's how they almost make her a liability. Her role in EE is to fuck up everything then Elysia cleans up after her at the cost of the sims.
>>562612587Because 4chan is the circle jerk of the loser cuck hua and elymei trannies. Anywhere else and they'll get dogwalked because nothing they say is right. It's just their opinions they're posing as facts. Typical 4chan schizo that likes being a contrarian when they're full of shit lol
>anons going into detail about a specific topic>Twitterfag can't respond or refute any because he never played HI3 nor understood the plot enough to offer any response
>those reply times>09:14:23>09:16:04>he thinks he fools anyone
Hua cuck won't like Mei getting a 5* skin in 8.9 that's for sure
>>562612671>recent event where they repeat EE without Mei>exact same shit without her present
>>562612872NTA but it's better. The simulation world wasn't destroyed and everyone survived. Yeah, that's not really any improvement saying they removed Mei and everything ended up happier.
>specific topic>Mei made on comment about Elysia three years ago and forget her>recent one comment about battlesuit>three years and only two comments >somehiw that means Mei only talks about Elysia>conveniently disregards Kiamei pat he's, events, storylines because it doesn't fit with his fake narrative >Mei is bad because I DIDN'T LIKE her>it's just anons opinion of not liking mei>anon thinks his opinion is a factHave yet to see a single intelligent Mei hater here.
>>562611571You make a good point about Mei not really being present. Hell, I don't think it was even clear what she was after in the ER. For how much Mihoyo likes to repeat shit constantly they made no effort to set in stone what her goal was aside from 'looking for answers'. Mei didn't really change, the real Kevin didn't change his attitude towards Mei either, and the ER gets imploded so it didn't feel like there was any point to it. Mei was more or less a worthless camerawoman whose biggest role is being responsible for HoC coming along, then having Elysia fix her problem for her at the cost of all the sims. The climax is>Elysia fixes Mei's problem while Mei does nothing
Look anon-kun, nu-/hig/ is running apologetics for a multibillion dollar company on easter sunday. Kimoi
your seething won't change mei is more popular and more profitable which is why she got a huge patch unlike hua. Sorry hua is a cuckdog. >>562612956Stop making sense 4chan schizos hate it!
>angry Twitterfag can't read and has to pretend specific criticisms every arc she's in regardless of other characters including new criticisms about recent events don't exist
>>562612956>>three years and only two commentsNTA but neither Hua, Griseo, or the other characters mention anything. This "only two" is like getting struck by lightning twice when normally nobody gets struck once.
Imagine being assblasted by Mei so much you start siding with anti part 2 larpers and elymei cucks. Such a downgrade honestly. Then again same cucks of a feather flock together.
>>562613215>NTAnice try elyschizo this is the third time you've said this in support for elymei you're not fooling anyoneMaking a mountain out of a mole hill just because elysia lost is so typical of you fags
How often do dlc weapons rerun?Missing out on Luna's DK is killing me
nu-/hig/ moment. This is getting sad.
>be 8.7>make fun of captain fags>make fun of elymei/fuki fags>make fun of Mei hating fagsBased devs shitting on so many schizos at once.
>>562613228>>562613326I don't know what problem you have but maybe there's more anons in this general than you expected? Maybe some anons wake up around now? Just saying. Also, Elsyia's a very horribly written character. I've known HI3 before she came. Why automatically assume I support her?
Twitterfag is angry and lashing out at everyone. Could've spent the time playing the game but he never did that before.
>220+ posts counting about Mei seething Yup I'm thinking Mei won.
I am Mei. I shit my bed. Now you clean it for me.
>>562613490You can stop pretending now.
>>562613462>Elysia is the sex offender rapistThat puts her touching Mei's horns against her will really freaking creepy.
>>562613426You're set up for failure and a bad time if you don't like Kiana/Mei or kiamei in this game. You have to be retarded to not like them. Kiamei is the plot and hua fag being so angry at this is so fucking retarded.
He could've played the game. But Elysia tourists refuse.
>be Bronya>job>but still be better written than Mei
>>562613490Really xarisa? Aren't you supposed to be making videos for your flop channel instead of bitching and crying? You already outed yourself here >>562611131 gor not playing the game and being anti part 2 ever since johnkai got thrown in the scatbin.>>562613228Kiana and Mei always cause the biggest melties here and I'm not surprised. It was only a matter of time when schizos here would band against them for always being pushed in this game.
>>562612381Did she have a chance? ER/To the Flawless is nowhear near a masterpiece, it's a mess of storytelling and poor man's Umineko & FFXIV: Shadowbringers/Endwalker if anything, Hua's trauma with Himeko, Mobius stuff in ER 2 & Vill-V personalities show are pretty good but more than half of the other FCs are severely underutilized in their agency outside the moments when they died, they have screentime but the writers did very little with most of them, same goes to the agency of Mei as a character who's the protagonist barely get to do anything with HoC. The among us mystery plot is mediocre with a resolution being a character you've no way to know about is just underwhelming. Raven stuff dragged out the pacing meaninglessly and got little purpose in the arc.The open world game design is terrible and pointlessly padded it further, even worse is the 16 floor dungeon design to get like 5 minute contents to progress the story.And using irl people to say Elysia is like them means nothing when real life is far more complex than Elysia ever was, people not gonna act like they have emphathy 24/7, they have time when they're selfish, arrogant, vulnerable, weak, cry, everyone made mistakes, even when they're ultimately selfless and good person. It's just something that they barely bother explore with Elysia, in theory, Elysia could have flaws but because the writers are too busy with glazing and glorifying her character, there's very little to none of it. This is not even starting on how her authority and concept were a complete asspull as well.I repeat, was Mei ever given a chance given above and Coral Island?
>mfw he thinks seelefag is me
>>562613548And they'll open the game and bitch and moan to a Mei patch too XDMei is one of best girl and that triggers the cucks here big time
To that anon from a couple days ago I think we can safely say this general is being kept alive by the same handful of people. We are no better than twitter.
>>562613806>KianaWhat. She's one of the most universally appreciated besides Elyfags looking for someone to shit. She gets the best arcs while giving room for others, she gets the best development, she's by far the best Mihoyo MC with only GGZ Kiana competing.
Mei had it the worst. Mei was developing in Arc city and Nagazora and shown to be so human as compares to the other characters around her. But they didn't let her develop because they had to press the deus ex machina button and run the self insert lab test with elysia and fc thereby forgoing any character development or storywise effort for Mei's part. And to do that, they put the hoc blame on her to give the spotlight to fc instead of Mei herself. She was deeply wronged by not just elysia but fcs too. They're the absolute worst thing that happened to Mei. Mei deserved better than them. Because Mei was much better than all 13 combined. They purposely didn't let her shine for elysia and fc shilling.
>>562613981Duh 4chn schizos are mentally ill yes she's one of the best but elysia turds shit on her here too especially in regards to the thread making. That's why I said 4chan is contrarian and shouldn't be taken seriously since three to four schizos circle jerk here. Especially against kiamei and part 2 like this entire thread.
>>562612671The most dumb thing is that Mei actively made the HoC situation worse. WS had basically dealt with all the HoC copies around, except the one still latched onto Mei, which she then brought into the ER and caused it's destructions. It's such a stupid plot point the game actually take time to try and handwave it by having Elysia say "Oh it would have found it's way here anyway, don't feel bad Mei" but that's blatantly untrue. WS Mei was a retard arc.
>>562614018But Coral Island sucked too.
>>562614018Yet Mei is still more beloved than pink shit because she's well written. No wonder the shitlysia cucks wanted her lolShitlysia and piss chasers have no redeeming qualities what so
>>562614115No, and why are you posting like some off board tumblrfag? It's commonly agreed that Kiana is done well. It's usually shippers or waifufags that think Mei wasn't mishandled on many times. Perhaps criticized Mei's writing all the time everywhere.
>>562614245Cope harder. Just a little more harder.
>>562614340I don't know what communities you go to but you can find tons of critiques on Mei's writing from here, reddit, even tvtropes. Anywhere.
>>562614018True she was wronged but she was shit in coral island too.
>>562614413>tv tropesLelThose critiques are more about the ones surrounding her.
>>562614501No, there's a section about how they wasted any opportunity to show her doing anything dark as part of world serpent. I don't think you visit any HI3 communities because anywhere you can find problems people have with Mei they didn't with Kiana's better writing.
>>562614018She was a bitch most of the arc. Mei a shit. The whole thing, despite being nearly a year long, was way to rushed with Mei's 'development'. For most of ER, Mei has basically been a tired bitch who's just frustrated with everyone and I had no idea why any of the FC's liked her. Then in the literal last part of the arc, she suddenly showed a lot of understanding and Empathy to the FC's, especially Elly who she went from tired of her pranks to basically besties with. The last part was well done, and I actually really like Mei during it, she's actually smart and considerate, it's just she needed to be this much earlier. Mei has a terrible habit, since the start of the game actually of being kind of a bitch who seems annoyed by everyone else, and suddenly becomes obsessed with them after they disappear. It happened with Kiana and again with Elly.
>>562614719Doesn't discredit her nagazora arc or her recent writing you retard. Again those problems are more about Elysia and you can find her cult screeching like a bitch under those posts. Only 4chan is still hung on the past and dlikes being contrarian..the problems listed here are blown out of proportion
>>562613490Actually they don't like mei either. They just like using mei to prop up the unlikable mary sue. If Eden was more popular they did be using her but it's not the case.They're basically jealous of Kiana being the mc, having Mei, and good character development, none of which elysia has so they like stealing Kiana's stuff to boost elysia because that's the only way they can cope.Over the years I've always noted the biggest kiana haters are always elysia fags simply because kiana won and had the best story. And most of them are usually twitter fags. It is as if they think kiana is real or something and cucked their self insert lolI bet this new twitterfag tried changing gears because nobody wants elymei so he's trying to be kianamei but badly because he's a twitterfag who don't play hi3.
>>562614909It does say it's a wasted opportunity, what's wrong with you? Did I say anything else? I said you cam find critiques on her writing anywhere. You got a problem. Get help.
>>562615026He can't read. Twitterfag could've downloaded the game for free and played if he could read.
Part 2 is good and keeps getting better.Kiana is best girl.Mei is also well written and close enough especially recently.Kiamei is the best written ship.If you disagree you're factually wrong.Period.
>>562614909>Again those problems are more about Elysia>The whole thing, despite being nearly a year long, was way to rushed with Mei's 'development'. For most of ER, Mei has basically been a tired bitch who's just frustrated with everyone>You make a good point about Mei not really being present. Hell, I don't think it was even clear what she was after in the ER. For how much Mihoyo likes to repeat shit constantly they made no effort to set in stone what her goal was aside from 'looking for answers'. Mei didn't really change, the real Kevin didn't change his attitude towards Mei either, and the ER gets imploded so it didn't feel like there was any point to it.>The most dumb thing is that Mei actively made the HoC situation worse>>562612381>She doesn't even really have a dedicated arc, she has like three which just stop and start and she's never really the highlight. I'm still convinced they bailed out on an edgy arc for her during her WS phase because they got cold feet on making one of their poster girls actually morally questionable, it's why WS hard pivot from nuking cities to basically being good guys who fight stupidly evil Herrschers while Mei is a member.
He tries sneaking>Mei is well writtenlike it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.
>>562614719Can you link that tvtropes section?
>>562615374https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/HonkaiImpact3rd>More than one fan has expressed disappointment that beyond the Herrscher of Ice arc, Mei isn't forced to do many other questionable acts as a World Serpent agent in order to test her resolve to subject herself to "darkness" for Kiana's sake, wishing that the writers explored this setup further before the introduction of the Elysian Realm.
Mei is the biggest loser0 development, 0 involvement, sitting on the cuck chair for the entire thing, cucked out of her own supposed arcbut here's what I think; ER didn't have to be badexploring what happened in the previous era if a very much welcome concept to me except... ER wasn't any of thatfor an arc centered on PE people, they sure managed to give us 0 info about them or PE itselfthe presentation is just dogshit that I'd be wasting words attempting to explain why that is the casebut coral island was fucked from the beginning because it had dudu
>>562615459That's true. Sasuke going to Orochimaru was actively depicted and framed as bad, as is his mental decline and attacking the Kage Summit. He did bad things when going to the villains. They didn't say he was a good boy who stabbed Karin for goodness.
>>562615459Like above about cold teet.
Mei is NOT a jobber!
>>562615459>>562615642It's a common writing problem with MANY stories and no excuse for Mei. Even AU Helia doing pic is far darker than anything Mei has done. They want to have their cake and eat it. They want a character to go a darker route but are too scared to go too dark. A past thread I recall mentions of FFXVI and that's a perfect example where they pulled every goddamn punch in a completely gutless story. Imagine if HI3 revealed Himeko survived out of nowhere after Everlasting Flames. That's how bad FFXVI is.
/hig/ only had like 30 posts last night what the fuck happened?
>>562616112No idea but here is what I have to add to this conversation!
>>562615105Also Mei's success gotta her profitable expies in genshin and hsr. I heard at least that she made more than Elysia one. Even heard the latter was a flop. But yeah 4chan loves shouting in voids and being contrarian as usual.
>>562616112Newfags from Twitter can't read
>>562616112I raped Reinhard heydrich.
>>562613351It varies. PinkDK reran the next patch. SeeleDK hasn't reran yet for 2 patches.
>>562616286Maybe that's why hua tranny is so mad since hua didn't get anything and she won't in the future either.
>>562616112Some guy swinging at a windmill trying to shove some straw man talk points down other throats he's pretending is 1 throat.
>>562616112Xarisacord melty about recent yuri patches, part 2 topping, and kiamei. Xhe is an Elysia/elymei fan and like them he hates mei and kiamei hence the weird fake long ass melty.
>>562616112A troll set juicy bait>Elysia shouldn't be removed from HI3>Elysiafags aren't all just Twitter tourists>Mei's writing isn't shitand caught (You)s.
>write character meant to do a dark thing>pussy out of them or make it so they didn't do the bad thingEvery time.
>>562616580The last time we had this melty was back in early 2025 when we had another kiamei/Kiana cny patch so Marisa and his raiders kept flinging shit everywhere and tried to ruins birthday threads, like the Eden one, and now again. That's why notice how the hate for Mei is actually just hate for part 2 and kiamei. Hence the anger when kiamei pics are posted. It's the easiest way of setting them off.
Is this general being botted? I swear I see multiple posts making the exact same comments from previous threads ages ago. I can count at least 2 comments which are word for word comments I've made previously.
>>562597854>probably that Shaoji guy I keep hearing ofShaoji was the one that created all the incoherent mess that carried on to the future chapters. Mei gaining new bullshit electrical powers as HoT and becoming immune to HoD and HoC powers. Honkai being a Cocoon that wants a hug, Elysia being so super special that her sacrifice is what made Herrschers human, Elysia's Herrscher power being 'granting wishes'. Kevin somehow becoming immune to all forms of mental attacks from Aponia's discipline (holy shit, this is unironically broken af), floating bubbles of leftover Imaginary energy in space from 50k years ago that can turn anyone into Herrscher of Origin, the current era missing the Herrscher of Death despite the existence of the gem of serenity until after Finality was resolved. For all Fanchuan's problems>ruins the game's lore in the process>forces Fanchuan to fix all of his shit in the Finale>people are blaming Fanchuan for rushed writing instead of the source of the problemis what Shaoji did.
>>562615459Cool page.>While it remains to be seen whether the Part 2 cast will be able to flourish outside of the shadow of their predecessors, Nahralab consistently attracts much attention due to her unique and striking character design, even from fans of Hoyoverse games that don't play HI3. It also helps that she's conceptually linked to one of the Aeons from Star Rail as a direct descendant.Is this true?
>>562598029I still don't get what was the point of that sequence rather than giving Mei the upgrade at the end of EE. Would've helped declutter the badly organized mess that's Moon.
>>562617367>bottedRaided*I too have seen these exact same >>562611497>>562610249>>562610550>>562610884>>562611845>>562611926>>562612283>>562613842>>562614018And many more but I can't link them all since format won't let me
>>562617610Wild. I don't like Mei, which is possibly why I see so many of my comments repeated, but what is this person doing? Are they just going through previous threads and copying negative Mei comments? Or do they have a word documents where they save a bunch of Mei comments.Autism is wild.
>>562617610These trash posts are also posted in hsr too it's just the two crossposting elysia trannies trying to fuck up the general because she's getting irrelevant and it the only way they can stir up inorganic conversations about her.
>>562610249Past arc Mei would've at least smiled in return rather than blank stare.
>>562617782>copying negative Mei commentsI dunno. Her birthday is coming up and just because some anons like her and call her best girl shouldn't have triggered such a huge melty but then again voila this is 4chan everything happens here. Everyone here needs to be upset at something.
The schizophrenia patient cannot accept the content of the posts. I come in the morning, I read anons posts, I don't care where they're from, only if they're correct. And this new thread filled since I slept last night has so many new and unanswered posts because anon can't give a rebuttal.
>>562617983He'd need to read & play the game to give a rebuttal.
>>562617983>>562618016This is like the 15th time I've seen this spammed by a non hi3 player hates the game.
>>562618104Every accusation is a confession lol he doesn't play the game himself he literally just said it here. All he can do is call others a "twitterfag" just because they don't agree with his opinions on elymei and say the other person didn't play the game. And then his friend replies saying " omg I wished he played the game"
>>562616112Elysiatards know Elysia isn't beloved, so they're attempting a new form of damage control where they say Elysia's a shit character but a harmless shit character to others rather than ruining other characters (and everything else she touches). These falseflaggers try to say Elysia didn't harm Mei's character development and that it's okay to not surgically remove every fragment of Elysia.
>>562618104>34:13>>562618226>35:59
>steals pictures from twitter complete with twitter filenames>repeatedly show 0 knowledge of game scenes, events, dialogue, and other parts disproving him that are cited against him>other anons post their screenshots because they play >now tries turning the tables and accusing others
You are all retardsAnyways posting cute and canon kiameiSurely it won't trigger anyone
>>562618406You forgot>Pretends to be a Part 2 fag but replies to posts criticizing Elysia and saying she has no place in Part 2 like they're wrong
>>562609904And look where it is now just days later. Dropped to 22nd place like a rock. Bilibili rankings are bunk.
>>562618527Like how >>562601730 replied getting >>562601852
>>562618527>>562618636>mfw he didn't answer the Dante poster because he was scared
It's a real pain in the ass that the most controversial parts of Hi3 are also impossible to replay, without making a new account or watching a playthrough on youtube.To the flawless all the way to the finale is either incomplete or completely barren story replayability wise while being about as dense as the rest of part 1 combined
>>562618636Isn't that well known that a large influx of Genshin tourists came when ER happened? One past thread had an anon point out another anon was on Reddit and even Reddit chased off an Elysia tourist who came for ER, left, then came back when he heard Elysia was getting a new alt.
>>562618873See the filenames
>>562618969Okay, I get it. He's ripping them from X/Twitter
>>562617824These ones in particular >>562598140>>562617580>>562618578are from hsr. Also >>562618969>filenameHe says this in hsr too. It's been a long raid today huh.
>>562616112Source, please? That's hot.
>obvious twitter refugee coming to /hig/ thinking he won't get discovered
>>562617439tourists keep bringing up dong hung in relation to her so kinda
>>562619160Scared of kiamei getting posted?Everyone gets art from x and danbooru. Get up with the times or keep crying. Not my problem though.
>>562619231
The original Hi3 X account keeps posting such beautiful art of kiamei. Why would anyone be insane enough to miss out on it?
>>562619052First two look like generic reaction pictures you can find anywhere.https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/Uv8pHLeh1Y70gkg3nuLz-g/https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/008RbtKO5sfaNb7x9IZ4LA/The same hashes can be found in other boards.https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/Uv8pHLeh1Y70gkg3nuLz-g/https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/008RbtKO5sfaNb7x9IZ4LA/The last one I can't find anything of.https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/GxLzMDUUHtW-9e3not0Djw/
>>562619303He can't read.
>>562619431>Generic reactions Not hen it's posted with almost the exact same text in hsr. I've looked into their threads sometimes and the same Elysia cord raid there happened here today too.
>>562619149https://x.com/zieeal279276
>>562619551No such posts there today. Maybe because (they) are here.
>>562619551>Not hen it's posted with almost the exact same text in hsr.I see some FFXIV, some Halo, some HSR hate but also a BG3 post.
>>562619431>>mfw your fighting game has rape>MK died because they had Fatalities instead of Sexualities.He's completely correct. We need more rape. how can we add rape?
>>562615987>They want a character to go a darker route but are too scared to go too dark.Like how they wanted Helia to go down a dark path but couldn't so they made up an alternate Helia so she could do all the bad things and our Helia stays clean.
>>562618406Those pictures can be shared anywhere in your discord so I'm not surprised you posted youyun when you just said stopped playing and keep wishing for eos. And even if it did, hoyoverse will keep pushing at least one yuri game so your anger is pointless at the end of the day.
>>562619919>Helia to go down a dark path but backed out of it at the right time before she went too far
>discord>he shares who gave him the twitter pics
>>562620045Nope. Just pointing it out. But official discord is filled with kiamei shippers so I don't even bother posting there since the hoyo staff, mods, and even the other creators keep post kiamei there. The only one quiet there is Marisa and I don't need to figure that out.
>>562619919>>562620006It's like if Mei transformed into HoT but didn't beat the shit out of Kiana and join WS
>>562619919>>562620006So how exactly is Helia better than Mei when she copped out bigger by shifting the entire blame on an alt when atleast Mei didn't do that. Mei is better because she did participate in LotF.
>>562619919Not really, they wanted her darker and there being an alternative EMIYA Helia was a thing with Helia's life drained as we did those platforming shooting puzzles. We knew it was an alternative world because the other Helia was in a completely different place with different clothes, different characters she never met in the original world, and events that never happened. She was also being tempted down that path rather than>If rescuing you is a sin, I'll gladly become a sinner.diving into the path. Using >>562615642's manga analogy, it's more like Balugo being captured but refusing the League of Villains rather than Sasuke leaving Konoha.
>>562620291>she copped out bigger>copped out when the point was she was able to refuse
shameful easter display
>>562620291>by shifting the entire blame on an altNTA but nobody did that. Have you ever read any story with an evil alter ego? Or alternative future self with brown skin and 20 cm height taller?
>>562620365Point stands. Both Mei and Helia didn't go too far. There was obviously a line drawn which they couldn't exceed and they won't do it for any other girl here either since they've can't risk it.
>>562598648It doesn't get discussed anywhere. In parts 1 and 1.5, everyone was talking and writing up long discussion posts about the story and lore, like Otto, whatever he was planning, Mei fighting Kiana, the ER, and so on. And powerscaling, there was a fuck ton of powerscaling debate. But there's almost no one bothering to do that for p2.
>>562620291Mei was wrong because she beat up Kiana before leaving thinking >dur I'll hurt her worse telling her it's for her sake instead of explaining further. Helia was about to go down that path but pointed out the flaws of it as part of her development and connection with Coralie and thus avoided it.
Kiana in her natural habitat.
>>562619919And Helia gets rewarded with some random future era battlesuit from the computer for not going down a dark path she never even had the opportunity to.
People get more excited for p1 character variants in other games like HSR, HNA, and ZZZ than they get for p2 itself. Ramiel in ZZZ being the latest example.
>>562620509NTA but there were. The Helia shooting ally got tons of discussion when it happened.
>>562620465Point don't stand. The whole point is it's a bad ending to be avoided she was edged onto.
>>562620658>a dark path she never even had the opportunity to.You didn't understand the story did you? She was actively being led there and could've succumbed but didn't.
>>562620509Okay now you're lying out of your ass. There's been ton of discussion for Vita and Leylay, Helia and Coralie arc, and also the Youyun one.
There was a part thread where an anon point out how dumb Mei was being but I cited how her real reason for nit telling. We basically agreed it was still stupid but desperate and trying too hard to keep info away from Kiana and that it was a flaw she was supposed to grow out of.
>>562620835Maybe on here (I only found HI3 on 4chan recently), which is credit where it's due. But not on other platforms that used to discuss p1 a lot (and often still do)..
>>562614909It was on a downhill spiral only barely kept afloat by Kiana. Basically every aspect of Coral Island arc was garbage. HoIce basically isn't a character, neither is HoEarth. The whole Mei pulling HoB bullshit out of nowhere which is never used again is stupid, the whole parallel between Mei and Kiana with Owl and Ana isn't fleshed out, nor is Mei's hypocrisy really mentioned. Plus Owl feeling such despair and betrayal towards Ana that he literally awakens as a Herrscher, then immediately decides to join with her is the most retarded shit ever. Easily the worst two Herrscher's in the game. But that arc was just a filler arc, it was completely forgotten and memory holed so I can forgive it because it was just shitty filler. Mei's arcs were shit before Elysia.
>>562620509why didnt you reply to my long post about the helia arc back then attentive and certainly well-meaning anon
>>562620658It would have been cooler if the alt story had diverged at the present like alternate Helia snaps and murders the Moon base crew for their careless attitude towards Coralie instead of an alternate Schicksal setup.
>>562605241He had stuff before that like https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/551164213/#551188508
>>562620927Discussions like that existed in many past threadshttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/303277342/#303501263https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/533518879/#533935604It's been a consistent thing for years to question what Mei was thinking or how she handled the situation poorly with Kiana leading to the fistfight.
>>562621138Because I only joined here 2 days ago. I use other platforms more.
>>562621096>downward spiralIt's Mei growing out of her helplessness to protect and sacrifice herself for Kianait's one of the best arcs and talked about.>shit before ElysiaArcs are but that is less of Mei's fault. If her trying to improve herself " is shit" in your eyes then don't reply because arguing would be pointless.
I enjoyed the kiamei events and kiamei story and am looking forward to more of it.
Helia took down Archer through facts and logic. She pointed out that looking through her other self's memories, she didn't know shit about Coralie or what Coralie wanted and was just using her as a vehicle for her own self-hate. Revenge Spirit was so convinced she understood her Coralie and went around hunting down other Helias out of this self-hate and corrupting or killing them but that's nothing alike what Coralie's wishes or anybody would've wanted. She willfully blinded herself just because she hated herself that much. Helia won because she understood her friends much better and could poke holes in their reasoning, taking away the armor which depends on resolve and determination. It's very close to UBW Shirou vs Archer which is the exact point and ironically a better UBW scene than the whole HSR collab.
>>562621845Same. They are so so sweet together. Being their fan is like hitting the jackpot especially these days. If the game eoses I hope they reunite elsewhere, which is highly likely, and we get never ending KiaMei.
>>562621624You basically ignored any criticisms and used that as an attempted defense no matter how unfit or how shit the arc you're defending is. The easiest answer is>No, she didn'tbecause the execution in Coral Island was horrible. This filler just went and killed TWO Herrschers in TWO chapters, presenting them in those same chapters and never revealing them properly so they don't look like impulsive schizophrenics. Even the parallel of Owl and Mei, who betray the world for the sake of their loved ones who have become monsters, does not work, because we don’t fucking know about Owl and Anna, their relationship is almost not spelled out and superficial (they even met only 1 time) and Anna, unlike Kiana it's an uncontrollable monster. And like the Mei reveal arc, it doesn't work, because the following arcs made it better: Raven's dialogues in 23-25 and ER, Mei's character is comparatively much better developed in ER due to interaction with FC but that's a low bar.
>>562618578It's a glorified post activity tracker. It makes sense that the patch day will push it to the daily popularity chart but the twitter cargo cultists ITT still want to believe the game is in a healthy shape, which is not. Well, if they released Dreamseeker looking like this the game wouldn't be as dead as it is right now. Oh well, that's for selling this game out to the HSR normalfags who ended up pretending HI3 never existed. Niggers.
>>562621140Hoyo were trying to endear people to Helia I'm not sure (even if it was an alternate Helia) cutscenes of her killing beloved P1 characters would have gone over well.
Don't reply to the troll. 562621624 is pretending for attention. Coral Island was unanimously voted disgusting by everyone. Even those who don't hate this arc just find it boring and don't even remember what it was. I'm one of those, I just don't understand why it was. At the same time, Kolosten, ER, and, to a lesser extent, the final arc is precisely what causes controversy and discussion, because there are enough very good things, as well as quite strange things that not everyone will like. But they have something to protect. No one in their right mind would defend Coral Island.
I never thought that HI3's writing was amazing or the pinnacle of storytelling. Fuck no, it was always full of flaws and questionable writing decisions. What I liked about HI3's story was the worldbuilding, background lore, and certain (not all) characters. Herrschers controlling all sorts of powers? Honkai beasts? Cool! The world divided between the 2 superpowers of Schicksal and Anti-Entropy? Epic, I love geopolitics! A dead era before the current civilization that failed to stop the Honkai? Raises the stakes! The MC is a clone made by the bad guy? Her love interest is a Herrscher herself? Their friend was a Russian child soldier who had to learn how to become human? Sign me the fuck up!And now if only the execution of the actual plot had consistenly lived up to the foundations, and now p2 lacks almost everything that I found interesting about p1.
>>562621624>It's Mei growing out of her helplessness to protect and sacrifice herself for KianaWhen did she do that? What she did get was sudden, random powers that are basically never used again.There's the whole "HoT can control Honkai Energy through Electromagnitism" which never comes up again.Then the whole "Other Herrscher can't control Mei because mUH AthOriTY oF CoNQuESt" bullshit.
>>562622241>ignored any criticismsMost of your post is flat out nitpicking. You don't acknowledge Mei's hardships and problems and simply saying they're shit seems to be easy to you. Owl and Anna wasn't handled correctly but again that's not Mei's fault. Mei's love for Kiana we already saw in chapter 8 and what followed. She loves Kiana and tried her best to save her. It's pretty simple and not rocket science. I already said I didn't agree with Mei's way of confronting but I understood her reason.
>muh stakesFuck the stakes. Mindless higher stakes is part of why HSR is so bad. Nagazora is better than some surrounding arcs because it was a personal arc that tried focusing on smaller global stakes but greater personal conflict. Herrscher of Domination was good less because of Domination herself and more making Seele develop and accept Red Seele as well as Kiana facing off against HoV and a farewell to Himeko leading up to the big battle. Even in Part 2 the best arcs are those about personal character development rather than>OH NOES THE WORLD AT STAKE
>>562622621By trying and constantly falling until Kevin gave her a solution for the immediate saving of Kiana.>then the wholeI'm not even talking about that. I just nagazora was understandable and good on her part. It's easy to understand how a helpless teenager would behave. Not everyone is so selfless like Kiana.
>>562622879>understandable and good on her partAnd badly handled in a way she could've done more lightly is the point
>>562622680You assert it's nitpicking and assert all that garbage without any backing. Own and Ana being badly handled is precisely the point because they were supposed to be a parallel to them but were executed badly, It is entirely on Mei's writing not just because of idiotic plot powers that never showed up like >>562622621 politely mentioned, but because of what they're supposed to serve. You don't see any excused like this made for when Kiana goes through character development because her parallels and realizations are done well.
>>562622852>Nagazora is better >Personal conflictThat's what I've been saying that Mei's personal problem at her state and how she could help Kiana despite being so vulnerable at the time fits her character. Nagazora is a good arc because of Mei's character development. It seems that nothing Mei could have done would please the nitpickers or haters because what else can she even do when she's not strong. Crying is a emotion and it's natural to do so when your loved one's about to die. That already makes her so much better than flame chasers, elysia, owl and Anna
i still don't get why they suddenly segued into the people getting psyopped into thinking honkai dont exist
>be Mei>discover Herrscher powers can actually be affected by electromagnetic bullshit which can weaken a Herrscher at Coral Island>this will be the only time we mention and/or use this ability
>>562623129This is why I said not to reply because you're not listening or reading what I've said. It's pointless. You've premeditatedly made your stance against Mei so there's no convincing a person who's not open to listening or even seeing things from a broader perspective.
>>562622680>Owl and Anna wasn't handled correctly but again that's not Mei's faultIt's part of her development relying on other characters being shit. They didn't exist before and were solely made for HoI arc.
>>562623153Otto is in fact not a good person, things worked out despite his bullshit, not because of it
>>562623364being a bad person doesnt make it easy to handwave kaiju attacks as gas leaks
>>562623308NTA but you don't have a single argument. He addresses you way better than anything you've written. If you're the twitterfag then you've git a serious problem with reading comprehension and making rebuttals. Because you suck at it.
>>562623308You didn't read shit. I read you. You posted trash. I've been to debates with other anons and we've convinced each other of many things. You're just bad at it.
Nagazora automatics justifies every next Mei arc being bad and somehow this means it's not on Mei's fault all the new characters invented for her development all suck.
>>562623314It doesn't take two and two to see Mei's main arc in the entire story was to save Kiana no matter what cost and all the people who met her on this journey could see that and that is exactly what she did. The powers she got was specifically because she had that one goal. Kiamei is literally the story Mei was in this for Kiana from the start. Owl and Anna being badly written and not hitting the point home is the writers fault for not making a good comparison. Mei's own words regarding Kiana were crystal and clear cut from the start. Her methods were wrong but ultimately she did help Kiana.
>>562622306>No more animated shorts and songs>8-10 weeks between updates >No more concerts>Employee count working on HI3 reduced by at least a fifth>No battlesuit for v8.8>No livestream either >4 p1 battlesuits in a row from v8.5 to v8.9, totally proving how successful p2 characters areIf people think this game is healthy, I shudder to imagine what they consider to be unhealthy.
>>562623425>>562623454Whoa okay tigers. Whatever floats your boat. Disregard all the foundation and build up of Mei and what led to her decision.You're clearly too emotional. Nvm. You're right, happy? You're totally right about everything. In fact your perspective and arguments and thoughts are all that matter. Everyone else including me is wrong.Good day. Sheesh.
>>562623610Doesn't matter what the theory is when the execution is bad. This is just repeating the motivation like it's enough to justify bad pacing or development. If this is a staircase, we know what's at the top and why it's being climbed. It's just it's a crap staircase that's collapsing.
>>562623829>Disregard all the foundation and build up of Mei and what led to her decisiCoral Island. Did you play that arc?
>>562623829This reminds me if a defense Amphoreus HSRfags make about how the shit story is allegedly good from a top-down concept and that this is enough to excuse every execution flaw.
>>562623893I'm talking about nagazora. I just said it repeatedly. Hence why I said you're not listening or reading what I'm writing. You're so hung up on buzzwords that I genuinely see it pointless. >>562623851>staircase is collapsing That's not Mei's fault when shaoji took over to write the retcons he did. Mei suffered but bottom line is that her core arc is already established very early and by that I mean chapter 8 where we can see her main interest is Kiana and that stays all the way. I just disagree with blanket statements when we can see it's more of and up and down with her story rather completely being shunned as bad.
>>562623829Sure you aren't the emotional one? Really sure?Really really really sure?Cuz I don't see any arguments being made either. This whole theead is filled with arguments on why something's good or bad. Not saying it is or saying the other side already has preconceived notions but making an argument. You're not doing that.
>>562624170Boi, it's like >>562623987 said. And other post somewhere up about you doing the ignoring
>>562624183I haven't thrown a single buzzword and am just talking about the arc and character though. What's wrong with that?
>>562624170>I'm talking about nagazora.And I'm talking one of the arcs after without much in fancy animated shorts to watch online. A pretty bad arc that few like talking about but is a prime example of Elysia-less Mei arcs that suck.
>>562624317You're more asserting everywhere then ignoring what anyone says in response.
>>562611845At least Mei had something in Kiana arcs lol. In er and ee she didn't get jackshit. Remove those shit arcs so mei can actually stand on her own two shoes than waste her time with hologram ghosts. They did her dirty.
>>562624326The one with Elysia sucks too because Mei's development that she was getting since chapter 8 and later in nagazora suffered because of owl and Anna 's comparison but later it was taken away completely during elysian realm. Everytime she came back it looked like her character was getting it shine again but that was because she was no longer serving as a camerawoman.>>562624404What have I asserted? I'm just saying I see and understand Mei's character and where she's coming from. In fact you are the one asserting when I can't agree with your arguments about Mei suffered. Just because I don't agree I'm assertive?
>>562623610It's a big part of it. The whole Owl/Ana thing is undercut by the writers making Ana a comically evil Herrscher so there's no real moral grey by putting her down. Owl is also to retarded to function and his writing/Herrscher is so nonsensical it should just be ignored.The whole deal is that Mei's supposed to see going too far saving someone is wrong. Both Kiana and Mei had toxic mindsets. Part of Kiana's development was going from pic can seeing Hua say the same and deciding to go against her old mindset. It didn't need to be Hua but another character who's going too far but not nonsensically like Owl. For Mei, this key step in realizing their old mindset was bad was botched because Owl/Ana were just plain badly done. It's like if pic was badly done for Kiana.
There's no point replying to someone who can read and consistently makes>You got this preconceived notion claims while ignoring anything being brought up and apparently thinks Nagazora or the overall intent of the whole character arc justifies neverending missteps done.
>>562624706That's another problem that Mei gets reduced to camerawoman but again, I'm not using before or after to justify arcs on their own.
>>562625002Yeah Ik I agree about that part. But I'm saying that Mei was already in the wrong in LotF. Her way of confronting was wrong because she didn't tell Kiana. And there was no way Kiana would be okay with. Obviously. But Mei's desperation is completely understandable from the start. Her is a lover character. And her story is about saving Kiana. Yes she was wrong but that's the thing she didn't care. Uptil her therapy session she realizes she went too far and grows out of it. And that is development for her. I just don't see why. A blanket statement is said " oh she was shit" when you see the entire ordeal and it's parts divided into arcs and how each of them did her bad or shaped her.
>comes back>450+ posts now about MeiKneel infront of best girl cuckshitlysia trannies, fuki trannies, johnkai trannies, anti part 2 trannies, hsr trannies and genshit trannies.Mei will keep being the highlight in all honkai games and hua and elysia will forever be cucks. Cry more.
>>562625325But the point is both sides were in the wrong and needed fixing. Mei being wrong is part of the point and part of her development which is why by doing it badly, it messes with her development. Owl/Ana didn't exist in a vacuum, they existed to help Mei develop and to be extra Herrschers taken down.Reiterating how Hua for Kiana was done right, she word-for-word said what Kiana did in >>562625002 which is how Kiana realized this is how precisely what she put her friends through. Then Kiana is able to abandon that mindset and defies her past self and Hua's decision to seal herself away. It's realization, it's taking action, it didn't need to be Hua, it could've been some newly introduced character offering to sacrifice themselves to seal Senti away, but all those other pieces of being a good reflection of Kiana needed to stay. This is why Owl/Ana being bad harms Mei because they're like if Hua or whoever fills her role is done badly.
>>562625785I agree with all of this.But Mei also grew out of it didn't she? She stopped forcing her decisions on Kiana and accepted the fact that her and Kiana's hearts were in sync. Kiana sacrificed herself to the moon and Mei didn't lash out or try to stop her. She respected Kiana's choice instead of fighting her. That is development.
It was Kiana's mission to become HoFi and luckily for everyone there were no consequences for that except her being stuck on the Moon for 10 years.
>>562626162mei did get her growth lol like I said 4chan is contrarians on drugs they blow things out of proportion in favor of their cuck faves then spend money and roll for mei like the cuck dogs they are
>>562626162I mean, everything that led upto it is subtle character development for mei but it's elysia's fault for being so in your face that most people angry on elysia take their anger out on mei wrongfully but it's too late to do anything about it since it looks like everyone's minds are already made.
>>562626162During that godawful Rimestar arc? With how badly done Owl/Ana are? It's more like an offscreen development in an arc where hardly any plot progression has handled well. Above posts have plenty of replies how botched Rimestar arc is. Mei got new powers that never remained relevant like a one-time Deus Ex Machine (almost like Elysia), it came out of nowhere unlike Kiana slowly learning from Hua (losing against Durandal who called her meshing it with her usual style sloppy) into the move she finished Senti with, and whatever lessons Mei was supposed to learn came at a very forced and badly done comparison. Also, even putting down Rimestar doesn't have the same level of defying her past self because while Kiana prevented an ally's sacrifice, Owl/Ana were people Mei just met. Putting them down is nowhere close to putting down an equivalent to Kiana even had they been done better. If Rimestar arc was a link on a chain or a train cart, this is where it needs swapping out before it breaks and front and end are disconnected. So much of it was badly built up, badly established, or even the concept was just plain off.
thoughts on sushang?
>>562626475Yeah she became a dick throughout most of ER. By the time they reached Vill-V she wasn't even willing to play along and was all>Fuck this, can we get this over faster?
>>562620637That's not a picture of Mei's knees
>>562598029Unironically the FCs would be better without ElysiaElysia's character basically exists to rob everyone of any agency.Elysia and her sacrifice were shoehorned and don't fit. The only good Herrscher that really came out was Welt Joyce, and that was moreso from the circumstances of his creation. Same with Senti, another unique circumstances of choosing Hua's body as the next host, which led to the Herrscher personality thinking it WAS Hua.I really hated how Elysia's sacrifice is the one that actually let the Herrschers get to be good, and not because of their own willpower and strength. What about Herrschers like Sirin, who had experienced the worst of what humanity had to offer? Why would she even choose to turn good? Ana? The poor girl lost her mind and didn't even get a chance because for a majority of her arc, she was completely incoherent up until where she killer Owl because the Herrscher personality finally took over. Elysia poisons everything she touches. All these posts saying Elysia can stay or opposing removing all traces of Elysia are the problem.
Mei was supposed to learn that friendship is magic from EE but the whole thing was framed like it was about single minded faith so it comes off as funny instead
