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GINGI

>Links
https://www.wowhead.com/
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Warcraft_Wiki
https://www.wow-petopia.com/index.php
https://mythiccodex.me/
https://housing.wowdb.com/

Official cross-realm & cross-faction /wowg/ guilds
<GLOBOFOMO> (NA)

<Nerub Silkweaving Forum> (EU)

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AMANI QUALITY
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>>562902125
>early thread
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>>562902312
As opposed to one with a raped OP? Yeah I'll take it
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Danuser is going to come back after the worldsoul saga. You can mark my words
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pull the ripcord and abort this cosmic slop
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Is there a catch up on this prey reputation? or am I fucked for not doing it last week?
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>>562902125
Fix the OP, nertroon is functionally disbanded outside of a discord group of trannies, no one should be tricked into thinking yuropoors can raid
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>>562902787
>pull the ripcord
>it's just reverting shit like removing tier sets or pvp gear
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Do we know what Xal'atath will do next?
In legion we knew that after Gul'dan the Tomb would be next. At the end of Tomb naturally Argus would follow. It's been 3 expansions and we dont know what the bitch is after
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Reposting in new thread. Original message:

Just got a ping @everyone in the /wowg/ inner circle disc.

Troves has passed away.

He's been with us since near the beginning. I was lucky enough to play with him on Silvermoon EU back in WoD.

Things like this will happen in a general as longstanding as ours, but the loss of Clayton (AKA Troves) doesn't sting any less.

May hold an in-game eulogy, date and location TBD. Feel free to crash it and be inappropriate he'd have loved that.
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>>562903114
she'll show up in 12.2 to say "watch my plan work you dummies" and open a portal to iridikron or whatever his name is who will start using void powers
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don't care
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How is it 2026 and Rogue vanish still doesn't drop like a clone or something to keep aggro of whatever you were fighting so it doesn't reset. This feels like something that should have been done like 10 years ago.
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>>562903024
100lb vulpera
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>>562903157
RIP. soon we'll all be free from this hell.
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>>000562902930
>nooo dont put a guild form another region that has nothing to do with me in the op aieeeee
nah. stay mad
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>>562903114
>Do we know what Xal'atath will do next?
I guess now that Midnight is done (yes it is, only the first tier of an expansion is relevant to this expansion with blizzard), I guess we are going to have a circus patch in 12.1 just to take a breath and then, 12.2 will slowly introduce the Last Titan.
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/darkspear-dash-wows-first-official-pride-event-coming-in-patch-12-0-5-380974

Metzenkino?
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>>562903576
I don't know how does anyone in the horde ever get anything done with these things walking around
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>>562903636
BAD
ASS
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>>562903693
the same could be said for the alliance
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>>562903968
i look like this but without breasts
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>>562902930
>Humiliated on the world stage four times in a row
Actually unrecoverable.
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>>562903968
Make the tits about 150% bigger and im sold.
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How does the Mythic Plus numeric ranking work?
Wouldn't it just be easiest to wait until the final month of the season when you are ridiculously over geared, and just steamroll +10 keys until you have both mounts and the titles?
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The Midnight story has been so bad that it's kind of unbelievable. How did they let it get like this?
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>>562903157
idiot killed himself and now will be burning in hell for eternity
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>>562904034
SHUT YOU"RE FUCK THE UP
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>>562903157
There was a /wowg/ anon I played with since Dragonflight S3, had him as a battle net friend, he was a paramedic IRL with wife & kid. He joined my heroic guild and would raid every week starting TWW S1. We also raided with Nerub on alts.
He signed for the next raid then he never showed up, usually he would reply to me on battle net since he had the mobile app too but he never came back online again.
He's probably dead but I'll never know, he would joke about "killing himself" whenever a raid or m+ was going wrong, surely he wouldn't off himself when he had a family.
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How does mountain thane work? Do I even bind whirlwind?
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>>562904319
if you read your talents the answer is obvious
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>>562902616
https://files.catbox.moe/yw68b6.jpg

Blood Elf female from work of warcraft, svelte athletic petite dark ebony skin freckles dark eye shadow, white hair tied bun, short pointed ears, dark golden eyes sclera, dark red lips, smirking,
medium breasts arms down nude, legs spread, detailed innie pussy visible clitoris, bushy white natural pubic hair hairy labia, bare feet dark red nail polish toes pointed laying back legs bent cum in ass
anal sex human futanari light tan skin black pubic hair medium breasts pov in a bright forest pale oak trees golden leaves, grassy ground wildflowers sunshine
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>>562904595
But where are her cock and balls?
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>>562904748
I am a futa enjoyer but not exclusively.
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im trying to hold back all temptation to catalyze my champion gear but my drop luck has been fucking terrible
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Where is the Horde?
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>you have to erp for gear currency
i shan't
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>>562905447
They're busy with this >>562903576
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HUH
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Have you seen any good movies lately?
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>>562905640
why don't you ask this social question in your discord or guild?
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>>562903576
More goblin content now
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you think if the beast races were all shit like tortollan and tuskarr there would be less furfaggotry today?
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WHAT EVEN IS THE DAWNWELL. IS IT JUST A BOWL THAT PRODUCES LIGHT? IT HAS NO POWERS? HUH??
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>>562905640
I just rewatched the finale movie of Thunderbolt Fantasy, if that counts.
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>>562905948
It's supposed to represent unity, or something. Look, it makes sense if you're on SSRIs.
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Bro pulling all the trash before the first boss on academy it's a huge noob trap unless you're running baby keys
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*reposts your post on twitter*
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>>562906226
The trick is to go left to know if your group is good at using CC and dealing damage
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>>562906398
doesnt xitter ban for the faggot word? getting a new acc and following isnt as easy as resetting your router so its a big ball move of maye to repost it uncircumcised
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>>562905996
imagine we got in game cinematics like this using dolls and shit
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>>562906593
I don't think it bans any bad word since elon took over
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>>562906489
I guess, failed 3 runs on that and the next one we did 2 pulls and it was a +2
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>>562906398
I told you guys 3 years ago that he constantly talked about /wowg/ in /say while in Goldshire, and no one believed me
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>>562906962
Another thing I do is pull 2 at a time every time. if the healer thinks he can handle more on a specific pull he is welcome to ninja
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>>562907086
That's what the tank did, healer said he could handle 3 but the tank wanted to be safe
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>>562906593
>implying elon twitter bans for slurs now
come on
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>>562906593
Seems completely random. I see people saying power word N and surviving it, but I've seen tranny get instantly tagged with a hate speech marker that hides the comment.

>>562905948
It's a very low powered Sunwell.
Just enough to sate the crack addiction, not enough to signal every bad thing in the cosmos to it.
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>>562907309
lmao nigga stuck 20 years in the past
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Arthas will return in TLT and thats beautiful
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>mistweaver meta build skips its apex entirely

wat
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>>562907745
some of the apex talents are either super boring or less good than more points into the rest of the tree.
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Speaking of ignoring apex talents, the enhance buffs were NOT enough
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>>562907713
Soz but Metzen himself confirmed we are starting with cultists in Ulduar
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>>562908016
Enh is too complicated for me. I still dont know when to use SS or LL. I still dont know when to use LB and Crash Lightning. And why don't I get a visible UI notification when I have the malestrom stacks like in legion?
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>>562907064
i didn't have any reason to doubt you, you don't speak for me
and it was pretty fucking obvious all the same because we would get these random idiots showing up itt that you could tell were brand new that stan'd for him and made mention of erping with him
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>>562908154
LL is prio if you have to spread lava shock but also are you playing totemic or stormsneeder?
You use crash in aoe for the buff and also st for the ss buff as well
LB if st
You have a visible notification for 10 stacks
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>>562908016
Shaman are doing bad DPS? Rogues too?
Better nerf Hunters.
More buffs for paladins.
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>cool body type 3(male, and yes, three) panda mog idea
>diaperbelt ruins an otherwise perfect idea
it's over. back to square 1
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>mfw making 700g/hour with fishing exploits
you can't stop me
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>>562908719
fake panda... play with me anyway can i heal you :3c
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>>562908387
Totemic even if Stormkepeer seems much easier and intuitive. This low quality guide explained it in a way even I could grasp but sadly it's doing tank damage right now according to parses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-bwvGWVn3o
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>>562908765
yo somebody tell the golden goblin
he needs to make some money on patreon
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Forsaken girl or goblin girl.
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>>562905948
it makes you 'eepy
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>>562908801
I feel you bro. I had 99% logs on outlaw during manaforge omega and it was all tank dps
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is 65k damage bad on fury with a 259 ilvl? I just did a +6
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>no gaywell
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>>562909205
Overall?
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>>562909281
yeah
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>>562908783
One of these days, sure.
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>>562909281
No, like average. I think I did something like 95m overall.
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>>562909374
i see
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>>562909349
Well I dunno depends on the dungeon. Depends on how the tank pulled the packs. Sounds lowish but it's hard to say.
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Are these two retards going to be missing for another decade or what?
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>>562909205
On bosses? With that ilvl its good. Overall it's meh but better than what some pugoids have been doing in my 10s.
Keep in mind you can really suffer if your tank isn't pulling big when you have cooldowns. With suicidal tanks I've seen shitters pulling 140k and with mediocre tanks I've seen good players struggle to hit 80k
For a 260 you aren't bad. Just send your CDs as frequently as you can
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Having trouble adapting to wowcrap's UI, how does it look?
This shouldn't be so hard I played every mmo ever with their default UIs
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>>562909534
They are probably in the same place that xal and the host went, they will be back in patch 12.2
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>>562909791
>Glowing eyes
Based. BDKs malding
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>>562867813
Why would I imagine that you deranged freak?
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>my luck with getting gear drops is so shit that i'm getting mounts instead of gear
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Help a nigga out! >>562909671
>>562909671
>>562909671
>>562909671
I take advice too
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I can't tell if L'ura has a male or female voice
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OHNONONONONONONONONONONONO status?
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>>562907745
resto druid raid build also skips apex
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>>562903114
vacation to troll island then we go back underground to find xalatath molesting azeroth
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>>562910023
I still have 3 champion pieces and I've already got AOTC Lura and 1/9M
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We are all used to it but i wonder what other people think about elves' eyebrows being huge in the wowverse
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Dawnwell? More like Yawnwell
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it's the GAYWELL chud bigot
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>>562906617
Oh I remember that.
https://youtu.be/vOm6EHcAglM

I wanted to see more
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>>562910104
Doesn't matter if it looks good or bad as long as it's functional for you
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>>562910521
I haven't tried it in any content is more of what I was asking about, I wanted to know if it looked functional
Not sure where I'm gonna end up having to be looking
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>>562909534
with any luck
i don't mind turalyon but alleria is written to be a stupid girl boss who don't need no man to tell her nothin' and i don't like her voice actor or the way she looks
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>>562909534
12.2 turalyon will be a void corrupted raid boss and xalatath will try to become the world soul by transfering azeroth into alleria's body
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it's troonralyon now
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>>562909671
Your frame is too big and not alligned
It will also be hidden by the raid frames overlapping
>fear on 5
ehhh
Think about your combat pot and health pot buttons. You will need them a lot.
Where is your soulwell?
What do you need Ritual of Doom for?
Consider moving that entire action bar on the right border of your screen
Maybe move the spell lock to a more convenient button because you will be using it a lot
Consider F12345 instead of some modifiers. They are great for cooldowns and panic buttons
Why would you put your personal resource bar there instead of having your nameplate that does the same thing?
I'd change the positions of your cooldowns to the top row so they are closer to the center of your view even if they keep their keybinds just to get rid of the cooldown bar under the PRD
Why is haunt on the tracker anyway? Is it not 100% uptime anymore?
What the fuck are you gonna do with spell lock mortal coil unending resolve and circle teleport being next to your pet action bar?
Maybe make the chat frame bigger
What are you gonna do with CTRL modifiers? Get rid of them and only leave CTRL + 4/R/T/F my dumbass pressed CTRL+R and I had to retype my reply lol
Where is demonic gateway and soulburn? It's very useful for instant gates or big healthstones
I don't see will of the forsaken
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now that the dust has settled, how would you rate the Horde's performance in Midnight?
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does anyone know where the cosmetics vendor is for finery funds? the wowhead coords are wrong, i cannot find this vendor
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>>562911352
At the main hub in silvermoon, close to the painting vendor
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>>562911352
northwest of the sanctum of light a cart in the street
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>>562911352
Its outside the middle area where lorthemar gives the campaign questlines, left side if you open the map around some vendor tables mid street
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>Try to do the Housekeeping quest by asking in guild chat
>Not a single reply
>Minute or two later
>New guy gets an easy achievement
>GRATS GRATS GRATS WOOHOO YOU DID IT WAY TO GO TAKE A BOW GOOD SIR THANK YOU THANK YOU
I'm sick of being in guilds.
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>>562911529
Guilds are too performative, i prefer the puglife
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>>562911239
>Maybe move the spell lock to a more convenient button because you will be using it a lot
That's my interrupt button in every mmo that has one actually!!!
Thanks anon I'll do some stuff (I forgot racials existed actually)
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>>562911529
Its an addon that spams when anyone gets a cheevo
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>>562911731
Dont forget to leave a slot for portals and consumables and professions and repair mount and ah mount and useful toys. They dont need to be bound but still
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Mount get
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>>562911894
I'll probably just put some of that stuff on the bar with the control keybinds, but thanks, I forgot about consumables too
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>>562911964
Desu just enable every checkbox in edit mode and see how it looks like.
Oh and perhaps the most important tip I can give you is put soulstone on a convenient keybind or on a bar closer to your raid frames as its a combat res and taking a second less to get someone up can save a pull in harder content
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>turn on Battle net
>wow is corrupted
>scan files
>50gb download
wtf have you done Blizzard?
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>>562912217
you got aids from the lgbt event
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>>562911956
not trying to throw shade at you in particular.

but god damn Haronir stuff all looks like it was designed by a schizo.
>badger thing
>tusks
>quills
>black fur but also half hairless
>huge bat ears
>leaves and vines in colors that clash horribly.

All their stuff looks like it was designed by a heavily medicated crazy person who just kept adding stuff every day until their work was due.
Which it likely unironically was.
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>>562911956
I have no idea why these aren't the haranir cat form
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>>562912178
You can soulstone dead people? Huh I don't remember that
Alright, thanks, my res button in other games is like... control G or something since it's a once per fight thing usually, or done out of combat
Is there an advantage to use the little player portrait instead of the resource bar, since you brought it up? I use F1 to target myself
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>>562912482
Its different from a healer res and there is also mas res but thats not your problem as a warlock. You can preemptively use it on a member like a healer but also use it as a combat res. If you have it on someone and then use it mid fight to bring a dead nigga back it doesnt consume the buff from the alive person who has it
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opinions of third worlders don't matter
is asmon , the most viewed wow streamer right?
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>>562912894
Ironic post
Very posmo
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How we holding up Hordebros?
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>>562913135
the tip of the horde spear
no greater honor
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>>562913135
ally dogs are dying in silvermoon while were chilling in arathi
lifes good
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>>562913135
I know this is the 'elf' expansion of the trilogy but it feels really undercooked. We don't really get a sense of the BEs even belonging with the Horde. They just feel Alliance-adjacent., relying mostly on neutral parties to defend against Xal'atath and the Devouring Host.
It's fucking boring
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>>562909592
brooding qt
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Niggas told me Arms is actually boring and weak
Meanwhile Arms is Kino and pvmps
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>>562913297
>blood elfs get pissed and fuck off to the alliance
>horde gets the amani
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>>562911956
the perfect cow
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>>562913328
Don't listen to the shitters here, m*ye is just dogshit at the game
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>>562913405
thing is, I like elves. I like the Blood Elves, but they just feel so plain here. At least show how the Horde's rubbed off on them
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>>562913316
My Aura..
Melting.
But thank you.
>>562913494
I don't know about Maye nor do I care, to be fair it was the echoed sentiment, not just him seething about it.
Granted I fucking hate Slam, and find this button insanely boring to press.
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>>562913135
>the mop collector's edition
kek
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What did you get up to in WoW today?
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Blood elves absolutely mind blown by the fact that they are indeed just high elves
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>>562913328
It's weak in single target but really good in AoE as I'm aware, and Slayer helps with their single target problems.
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>>562910507
Damn that's awesome.
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>>562913723
I joined a H Dreamrift where once again the tank didn't get threat on the adds and got me killed.
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>>562913884
>The horde is there waiting for you
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>decide to try out this whole fistweaver healer as a changeup from my shaman
>spinning crane kick is instantly healing the entire party to full every cast

what the fuck
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>>562913928
Seems like a fine enough compromise for the most fun spec one any boss is <35/20%
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>>562914437
Welcome to a real healer, don't even think about trying druid
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>>562913723
doing the mythic weekly
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>>562914529
The huh?
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Is astalor a mage or a warlock?
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>>562913723
Resil 12
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>>562914702
Warlock given the whole point of Warlock is casters who are willing to dabble in any dark magic not just Fel and Void.
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Does timewalking level my all the way to 80 or can I do multiple expansions worth of shit, and can I leave an expansion and go to another? This character is from WoD's release (as in that's when I last played at all) so I'd like to do WoD but I want to suffer through dragonshart too
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>>562911350
like that doordash order that picked up my food and drive off from the county on a highway
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>>562914702
He's a fag.
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>>562914702
BloodMAGE
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>>562914857
Can necromancers also be considered warlocks?
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>>562915028
You can switch between expansions at will. It's no longer linear like it used to be when you wanted to play the current expansion and you needed to go through them by release order.
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>>562915028
Yes
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>>562905640
GOAT. Hoppers were cute.

The quick and the dead.

Predator Badlands.
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>>562915225
THANKS babe
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>>562915291
>Hoppers
builted for young teenager protester girl on man in suit sexo
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Look at this lish'rath areWHAT ARE THESE BIRDS DOING HERE
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>>562901989
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>>562915113
Yes, Necromancy is something Warlocks can use. Take example, the Warlocks who made the original Death Knights and the Dreadlords who use both Necromancy and Fel
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guh
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>>562911210
What's wrong with his eye?
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>The Silversun Pickups means the Silver Covenant and Sunreavers are now disbanded
That was like, what, 20 years of in-game faction conflict resolved off-camera in a 2 minute discussion?
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>>562915591
Reggie the mouse song started playing. (Boom boom boom)
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>>562915113
>Can necromancers also be considered warlocks?
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>>562915610
yeah, but i got a cool tabard out of it tho
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BLOODY BASTERD BITCH FUK U BLIZZARD
Another week without trinkets, great
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>>562915649
Good taste
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>WE MUST BE GAYER MEN *jumps into the gaywell*
Horrifyingly stunning and dastardly brave
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>>562915741
skill issue desu
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>>562915591
He bought magic earrings from Murder Row
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>>562915869
I'm killing it with guild this week, shit better drop in the vault next week
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>>562907745
I've been running the no apex build on MW and I think its weakness is on boss fights. You're super giga OP on trash pulls, but on boss fights when you don't have a lot of targets to carry you and you have rot damage and the boss is moving around or the tank won't move the boss out of ground shit, you're gonna have problems.
Basically the apex talents are better in pugs on boss fights, but yeah most of the time the giga trash pulls are where all the dmg and fuck ups happen.
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Helya OWES me sex
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>>562916621
you can have her
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>>562904595
https://files.catbox.moe/kxyfx6.PNG
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>>562917323
did you slop these, maye?
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>>562915869
what kind of fucking guild are you in that is 4/9M but doesn't require you to fill your M+ vault
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my first license is doomed
i'm on my last strike for abusive chat from shuffles
i can take solace in the fact that blizzard is trying to fix the report bombing, you can't report someone after a shuffle is over or without ever having typed to them in the first place now
oh no!
anyways
i have another account with 20 characters
so what?
you put me back a week?
you think those pixels meant anything to me??
hahahaha
think again, stalker child
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>>562917452
Fuck are they gonna do? Ask for a screenshot of the vault from every member? As long as you have 2k io and your ilvl doesnt fall too far behind no one will notice that you only did 1 maze this week
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>>562917457
You are the worst poster in this thread, just like your ugly fembelf and femhumies
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Furrys get an A + today. Very close to an S, but truthfully I did not laugh. I see that attempts were made. Very good, but I guess I just am not in a laughing mood. >>562915291
I like this and the previous theater image. Maybe best post will get a gold star in the future. Wow.
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>2665 rating, all 10's timed
>263 ilvl (bad drop luck)
>1 hour and I can't get into a single +10 pug as dps

I think I should reroll
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If I have a 6/6 1h weapon and 2/6 offhand, do I get the free 6/6 upgrade on a 2H staff?
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>>562917862
reroll Frost Mage or Demo lock and enjoy invites. No one wants those other trash specs.
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>>562918007
But anon, I am a demo lock...
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Apologize
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>>562917976
No. Unless both weapon and offhand are 6/6 you dont get a free staff. Not sure if 6/6ing a staff gets you free weapon.
Yes it's bullshit
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>>562918184
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>>562917862
>>562918007
Frost mage here (actually arcane but I bait with frost then swap) same ilvl same rio, no invite either unless I start my key.
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I already forgot that endeavors are a thing, has housing been a bust?

I enjoyed making my house but it feels a little aimless now.
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>>562917976
No but works for the reverse, if your staff is 6/6 hero, you get free upgrade for your 1h+offhand
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Nyo
https://files.catbox.moe/vjfh0w.PNG
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>>562918421
Fury players told me they still need to pay up for their second 2hander
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>>562918361
He has sex with Vulperan women.
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>>562918503
Yes because it's considered as another 2h
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>>562918474
Are you maye? Just checking :)
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Does anyone know how many crests do you get per m+?
Every fucking reddit chart is wrong, +12 gave me +16 crests
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Y dat matter if i ams or ams not
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>>562918618
12 for 10
14 for 11
16 for 12
Thats the max
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Because i want to know, worry not nothing will come out of it. It's my autistic personal cataloging.
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What's more aesthetic/cute
forsaken warrior
forsaken warlock
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Max? Yeah he won.
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>>562918361
Some updates are coming, but you have to make it a community thing. Get together every now and then.
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>>562917663
k shitzo furfag latinks
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>>562917862
I know, I am in the same boat at 270 item level. Mythic + is just a miserable experience. You spend an hour trying to either join someone else's key or finding a tank for your own. Anything higher then a 10 likely doesn't get timed as that seems to be the last tier pugs can reliably do. Just give us mythic delves and prey hunts already! I just don't like needing to rely on other players. 90% of the difficulty is just finding the right people, so I don't even feel all that accomplished when I do time a higher key.
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>>562918979
The fuck are you saying now? Speak English you rancid sewer rat.
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>>562919032
Nah you're retarded, this is the season is FUCKING free
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>>562919032
>I just don't like needing to rely on other players.
It's an mmo
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its fun to pretnd but ofc his defenders do backflips to defend thy honor
pedo
should ahve been shot in the army
child killer
https://files.catbox.moe/1md5fs.PNG
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melite
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>>562918361
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I got my purple glaives for my Devourer DH bwos!
Now I need to make a better set.
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>>562919115
shitzo furfag latrinks
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>>562919263
I thought those are unobtainable
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>>562917553
it's called wowaudit and it tracks everything about everyone on the roster ***including how many M+ runs you've done that week***
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>>562919032
I hope those mega delves provide an option for mythic track stuff. It'll be the death knell to all this bullshit. Might explain why this m+ season is easy up to 10s.
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>>562919339
Not if you unlocked the base version back in legion
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>>562919339
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>>562919339
I had the normal fire ones, I just needed to do an achievement for the purple color
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>>562919285
You're lucky to be hiding behind trooncondrius.
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Is Blizzard trying to move in the direction of modern D&D, where it’s not really about races or faction conflict? They’ve made everyone sound and act so similarly that the difference between a human, a blood elf, and an orc is mostly cosmetic. Homogenized fantasy where all races are friendly.
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i love being valeeras personal healer when she pumps in delves....
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Weesh I had a cute black gf with natty hair to play wow with
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>>562919559
They designed the delve companion properly this time, allowing her to pump. I remember Brann before we got that Hatarang curio, that piece of shit used to do zero dps. He needed multiple stealth buffs and a busted af curio to do anything.
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>>562919925
except tank valeera randomly stops working and dies instantly while doing 0 damage
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>>562903114
>he thinks he is getting Legion
keeeeek, we are getting troll raid my man
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>>562918760
Thanks, fuck those website with no good information except posting clickbaits
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>>562919493
you ain't shit faggot
you're just some cocksucker from troonguard
kys bitch
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>>562920108
Yeah I don't get that
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>>562920108
Consider healing her
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>>562920349
Nah sometimes she gets one shot by normal non elite mobs. There's something wrong.
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>>562920424
Never saw that happen in 2 weeks
She fucking pump
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>>562920349
I cant heal her when she bugs out and loses her stats and goes from 100 to 0 in a global. its not the debuff she gets when you arent participating in combat either. she just starts dealing 5k damage despite having 12 stacks of damage increase
god fucking help you if it happens during a nemesis gank
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>>562920108
people use tank valeera? her dps spec can face tank elite mobs and make it out alive if you're also attacking the mob.
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THERE IS A CHILD GROOMER IN GLOBOFOMO WHY IS NOTHING BEING DONE
actual cold hard evidence too lmaooo
why is their weird fur guild even allowed on the op
we have the manpower to solve this just stop putting na guilds on there until m*ye is removed
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>>562920494
You'll pull aggro. As healer with tankleera you can start doing 8s at sub 200 ilvl.
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CHILD GROOMER
>WITH HARD EVIDENCE FACT
WITH HARD EVIDENCE F A C T.
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>>562919123
I don't personally find it hard, but I can't solo it.
>>562919137
True, but there is plenty of much bwtter social experiences. Really it's not our fault if the social experience of mythic dungeons is pain. Barely a word gets spoken. You just don't have the time to talk. Usually only ever going to see people sperging out over fuck ups in a pug. Better with friends and voice chat.
>>562919384
Let us fight a special variant of the current nemesis at the end of the mega delve for a mythic item. Probably between normal and hardmode in terms of challenge. Really should be able to repeat ?? nemesis once per week for mythic gear too. It's certainly a higher individual challenge then +10 keys and those give welfare mythics.
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Do we have another craft this week?
I really don't understand this season spark thing, already have 3 crafted but the currency tab is at 5/6
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Helf Pussy
Belf Pussy
Velf Pussy

Human Cock
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>>562920706
futa human.
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Great. As if the antinerubschizo wasnt enough... Now we have another faggot stirring shit up
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Y'all really spending billions of gold on crafted itens when you can just get gear from doing content??
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>>562920749
they did it to us we can do it to them
just remove both guilds they're both disbarred
esp maye that rapist needs to be run off the Internet maybe more
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>ring
>ring
>ring
>belt
>ring
>ring
>ring
holy SHIT WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE ACTUAL ARMOR DROPS
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>>562920837
I ate the rings
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You know at this point I don't think he even posts here anymore. Just more convincing schizophrenics.
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>>562920586
Once valeera gets somewhere over level 40 she does a great job at holding that aggro because she pumps so hard as dps. Besides, she's got that crazy finisher that insta-deletes enemies when they get low like elites, nemesis packs, and even delve bosses.
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i want to attempt to heal a +10 but i only have a vet weapon
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>>562920260
I know all about you, including your /tg/ history.
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>>562920823
How about you stop trying to cause drama with faggots on the other side of the Atlantic that are asleep when we're awake? I'd get it if your boogeyman was in your region or guild but he's not so it literally doesn't affect you or your friends if you have any
>just remove both guilds they're both disbarred
I did that a few times for keks
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>>562921028
I +2 a seat 12 today and the healer got a ring and I was going to ask him if he wanted it when I noticed he had 2 246 ring
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>>562920108
she has a clone that pops out that you're supposed to DPS, otherwise it puts a dot on her. when you hit the clone it puts a HoT on her.
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Is the random catalyst charge thing for acquiring 4-set an account unlock or character-specific?
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>>562920737
>futa
stfu troon, I am a fat ugly bastard human who will breed them all
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>>562921487
its not that either. she dies and revives herself and dies near instantly again because she just takes too much damage due to a fucking bug
I know how much damage shes supposd to take on average and its not 80% of her health every white swing which only happens when she bugs out
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>>562921492
Character
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got 5 pieces of tier gear equipped rn feeling like such a geek
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The original Maiev Shadowsong voice actor is 75 years old
The one they replaced her with in Legion is 73 years old
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Maeiv raped Illidan for 10000 years
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If I see another Aug in a key Im trying to time I'm leaving, not making that mistake anymore.
This troll spec should've never been allowed to happen, it's the most irritating shit they've done in a while.
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>>562920539
>>562920631
All talk, no proof. Shut up. Please post proof, i know you won't because there isn't.
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>>562921495
prove it
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Human Cock vs Orc Cock

Discuss
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>>562922092
>american /wowg/
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>>562921843
You understand that AUG is currently the best ST dps right? It's also meta.
Meta is currently, monk tank - druid heal - lock demono - aug - last spot is either unholy-devourer-ret
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>>562922225
yeah you're based kiddo
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Matthias Shaw is a faggot?
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DEATH TO THE LIVING
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Undercity Revamp
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>>562922436
post your soundtrack like this faggot did
>>562922225
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>>562905640
Hellraiser was good since I hadnt seen it since I was a kid
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Not so tough when you're not playing a broken healer in wpvp eh Azos? Still using the Avatar of Bloodshed exploit but still dyin'!
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oh no no no no no no no no
stalker child
you've been found out!
and you've been found wanting!
shitter
don't ever reply to my posts or my sons ever again
>https://check-pvp.fr/us/Moon%20Guard/Basedhumpaly
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I'm level 71 and I don't know how to play Arms warrior
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>>562922721
Who's this?
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>>562922573
https://youtu.be/_Fj_2IJqk10?si=fsE6cq_qztpZVc6j
and
https://youtu.be/lrNHDJqE49E?si=s37VWNq4OWYTn0bc
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real schizo hours
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>>562922721
Wrong one, dipshit. Try again.
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>>562922805
some weirdo "cough cough" from the NA guild that thinks every person that posts is me
crazy right?
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>>562922885
literally no one knows who the fuck are you supposed to be
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>>562922305
Too bad the supposed "meta" best ST DPS was doing tank damage and this has happened to me 3 times now. I don't give a fuck about theoretical, I am not doing a key with another Aug.
Also Resto Druid is complete fucking trash, no one even wants to play that garbage in keys.
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>>562922938
no one
and thats entirely the point
but its lost on some schizos
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>>562922721
>hovering around 2400 most seasons
holy based
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im scared to pug march on quel danas bros
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you got the wrong guy pal LOL
*mwah*
>>562923083
cute gif...
hi
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>>562922841
yuros are waking up
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why would I POOOOOOSH in +15s and suffer the bitter sting of defeat when I can just blast 180k overall in +10s and have a chill time with m8s
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Goodnight /wowg/
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>>562923289
youre no better with your constant shitposting about them btw
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>>562923316
Wife and boywife.
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>>562923313
You don't need 15s for 3k and 3k is the guild flex, as long as you hit that everyone in the guild knows you're legit.
I'mma hit 3k on one character and then go fuck around on all the healers. I think healers have the most depth in this game, the other specs are tuned too awfully, like tanks are tuned to have shit damage and DPS have like barely any build variety.
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>>562923417
3k is too easy to be a flex this season
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I just saw fem belf palas with human men...
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>>562923709
silvermoon has fallen
it's over
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I've got 80 myth crests, shoudl I look to craft a staff? Only really do 6-8 keys and have hero weapons
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>>562913632
Most I've seen is they cut some hedges into the shape of the Horde symbol, which to elves is probably the height of honoring an ally lmao.
Lot of people already complained, but they basically neutered the blood elves, they used to be edgy willing to try any dark magic, now they're just as pussified as their new npc voices are.
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>dumbasses say its impossible to keep up slice and dice for 98% upkeep
>i've constantly hit it in m+
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>>562903114
>Do we know what Xal'atath will do next?
We have known since she teamed up with Iridikron though?
How come the people bitching about the story (not you in particular) don't know the story at all?
She corrupted the Sunwell because it was an exposure to the ley lines that lead to the core of the world. After she made it Void she was able to traverse it without being melted by Light magic and so she used it to travel into the core of the world, you can see this by how she retreats into the Darkwell instead of just teleporting away.
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>>562923935
Arent there abilities that refresh it also?
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I got 3k rating. what am I supposed to do now?
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>>562908765
big money if u is on classic
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>Pit of Sauron +7
>Learning
>led by a monk tank named after yipman
>starts the run by saying: "alright, if anyone here has a problem with this taking some time, then leave. The last group was a bunch of jerks"
What am I in for?
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>>562922982
Please tell me you are joking, are you trying to be in the reddit screenshot?
Are you also one of those guys who complain devourer is doing no damage on first pack or not enough even though the tank decided he'll do the smallest pack + wait time between each pack
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>>562924128
+20 minutes overtime.
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>>562923690
its never a flex
anyone can get that shit 2 months into the season
i would have a small, read: tiny amount of respect for it if you're a tww s1 vet but otherwise piss off nigga
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Next week I'll be free
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>>562924247
Run actually happened already. We had 5 min left at the last boss (route was all manners of fucked, but ppl kept quiet), then wipes there because people didn't stand at the bone piles. Wiped 2 more times then killed it without timing it, everyone laughed and was happy, especially the tank. Sovlful
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>>562924404
obviously it's only a flex if you get it early on in a season, but this season I would only be impressed if niggas got it week 1 or MAYBE 2
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>>562922885
Fuck are you talking about? Can you show some of these posts? Otherwise it looks like you're the schizo seeing shadows everywhere.
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>>562922721
>>562922852
You're genuinely so retarded it actually hurts, filthy mouth breathing mutant. This is your investigative technique? Checkpvp globofomo and link random person on the ladder?
Worse yet, some human paladin just like yourself? Really got me there. Dumb sewer rat. But please link more i'm curious to see who else you think is me. Hint: I'm not in globofomo.

You know how i know it's you every time? Your retarded ESL speak and info you give about yourself.
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>>562924517
Better to learn at a low key I suppose. There is still absurdly dumb idiots(mostly frost mages) that don't freeze the bones at +10.
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>All those people lying about the dawnwell being a rainbow
fucking lmao
doomjeets cant stop losing
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What if, instead of the World Soul of Azeroth taking the shape of an Elf, it took the shape of a Troll instead?

Also did BfA-lore make Trolls a Titan-made race or am I be trippin'?
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>>562924969
what? im sorry can you repeat what you said pls
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>xally used the well to shoot into the azerussy
yep knew it
im very smart
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>>562920642
You could probably one tap ?? nullaeus drunk with multiple other handicaps as a 270+ with tier sets.
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>>562925019
no they still evolved from piles of poo poo
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>marathon a +10 key
>finish it
>realise i have literally no idea why i just did that
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seethe nigga
you've been found out
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I have not timed academy +10, fuck that place
Did get the whistle for my resto druid though
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he won
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i haven't been found out for shit lil bro
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I won
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>binging mr ballen stories while leveling my alt
feels comfy
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>>562925148
>Found out
>Random guy on the public 4chan guild
Sure thing buddy, now link more. Please entertain me further. Show me how much of a investigative mastermind you are. You're scared as fuck because i call out every time.
Neck yourself.
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uh oh
saar melty
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>>562925115
Kewl, thank you.
*goes back to lurkin' and playing pserverWoW*
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>when I’m in a getting raped by BGCs contest and my opponent is Tyrande
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can you cunts both fuck off
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>responding
>responding multiple times
>responding with his avatar to "prove" its not him
>ur s-scared as fuck
lol
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>>562925534
it'll never happen again buddy
sorry i had to put a damper on your day
cheers
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>>562925085
Nulleaus is just a bad nemesis. Still requires higher individual skill then a +10. You could sit idle and pay chinamen to clear a 10 for you. Nulleaus will kill you if you can't press interrupt. In a dungeon you can get by letting your team do it for you.
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>>562925517
there is an evolutionary trait in humans that makes that you can't kill yourself by shoting yourself btw
its like how you cant hold your breath long enough to die
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>>562925226
People take the route that has like 3-4 of those worm things that DPS are allergic to not standing in front of. When you could just not take that route and skip most of the worms....

I can tell which tanks aren't using MDT because they pull shit that isn't necessary. It's all ego pulling and that's why tanks are retards.
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kinda dont want to raid tonight
or play this game at all
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frost mage is like a free dopamine dispenser bros i love this shit
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>>562924650
Someone in my guild got it week 2 but he barely plays with any of us and plays the game like a fucking freak and plays a meta spec. I can't sit there for 10 hours straight doing keys, that shit is insane.
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>>562925885
You don't need to do keys for 10 hours to get 3k. It's extremely easy this season.
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>>562925593
Nervous and shacking. But okay you can pretend i'm him if it makes you feel better, makes no difference to me. Gonna call you out each time you stir shit up, rancid mutant.
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>got a loot I don't care from the weekly box
It's over, I want to kill myself, no trinket this week
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>>562925825
i'm too stupid to play either of the other mage specs
it's a good thing frost is fun and good
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Seriously what is the point of abundance
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>>562925769
This is me every reset day
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>think im playing like shit
>get good trinkets and a weapon
>suddenly purple and orange parsing
never pressure yourself into thinking you suck
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>>562926203
that capybara loa is pretty funny
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>shacking
but i'm esl
lmao
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>>562926261
no the capybara loa is the god of children

the rat loa is the god of abundance
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>NA hours is just ERP and cropped tranny porn posts
...
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>>562926423
sorry not to be racist but uh "those types" all look the same to me
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>>562926335
Learn to type sentences, stop your obnoxious spacing.
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>>562926038
No shit faggot, I'm 2600 and I've barely even done anything. 3k is a flex in some guilds, trust me. Not every guild has every single person hitting 3k week 2, lets stop the cap.
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>>562926770
stop replying to him
you’re being toyed around
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>>562926867
Adorable misdirect, what's the matter. Scared?
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the apex talent for brewmasters have been really nice for roleplaying as a maid

you literally throw [refreshing drinks] at people when you use celestial brews
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>no more beam in the sky
nooo
i
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>>562926980
Why is the lightning so poor here? It's like some cheap ASMR streamer setup with purple lights.
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>>562926248
I don't like how absurdly strong raid trinkets are. Wish they could just have fun and mildly useful utility instead of being build defining. Then we could just be good without them. No more being balanced around trinkets.
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>look up havoc guide
>guy who made good ones is now only doing devourer
I hate it
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threadly reminder that tanks are evaporating from pugs because of these shit dungeons
blizzard will be forced to cancel turbo boost because no one will be tanking
and if you are wondering no buffing their auto attack damage will did not fix anything
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Should I focus all my knowledge into one type of ore in plentiful ores or level them all evenly? Silver and tin sell for more on average than copper but copper is more common. Help me.
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>>562926203
>Seriously what is the point of abundance
I got the eagle mount first day and then fucked off. Never putting my foot in that place ever again
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>>562926203
Ez coffer keys/gold for alts. 2 mounts and reputation with the trolls
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>>562927540
But reddit told me it was because of toxic people ninjapulling, being toxic and stuff, not the dungeons
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>>562927813
copper and tin seems to be needed more in quantity for blacksmiths and engineers

i have no clue about jewelcrafting/prospecting maybe they use silver ore more

i think you should just fully commit to one of the ores so you get the perk to get dazzling thorium more often
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>>562928060
its that too
for example you are expected to gigapull in most dungeons and it quickly goes to shit if people dont cc and kick or deal no damage and when the healer cant cope anymore you die and you get hte blame for being a shit tank
good examples are npx aa and seat where the first pull is brutal for everyone
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>>562928192
>+13 seat
>nobody uses defensives on first pull
>mfw
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>>562928151
JEWelers dont give a shit about the kind of ore. They will prospect the cheapest shit en masse
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>>562928192
I don't even do the big pull in seat
Don't like it? Find another tank, I want to fill my vault
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>>562927540
i recently switched to brewmaster because im struggling to get invites on my mistweaver lately

then i noticed that there are a LOT of low-skill mistweavers out there and its probably why im not getting invited
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>>562928325
jesus
i have to tell people to use freedom effects before the start every time too
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>>562928465
Half of the time I'm getting praised from pugs for being the only competent brewmaster they've met this season. The remaining half is when I pull like a gorilla nigger and chain wipe but no one dares to say a word
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>+8 seat
>mistweaver pug did not use tiger lust, ring, leg sweep and paralysis for the entire run
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>>562928647
probably didn't have any free gcds, dps in +8 are very special people
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>watching the arms warrior face and ass tank eiffel tower style every chakram but because it is a 10 they don't get one shot
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>>562928647
>press my cc
>dps instantly attack the cc'd mob
Can Blizzard finally castrate the dps role and turn it into melee dps, ranged dps and support dps roles? No more 3vs1vs1, it's fucking battle royale where everyone screams at each other.
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>Soloing fyrakk mythic
>the rng i have to go through to be able to kill him
elemental lol
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>>562928574
god I wish I knew a brewmaster able to do keys higher than 10s…
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>be me
>join M+ group
>say hi
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>>562929080
Tankeks dont need io as they have a friendlist full of simps ready to join your groups
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>>562903157
that sucks man, but im not on EU so shit,
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>>562927813
I went for copper ore since that shit is in everything. If you have a blacksmith loaded up the ass with multicraft you can further squeeze out higher profit from that by making ingots, T1 only unless you've capped the skill tree too. Those things sell fast.
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>>562903157
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>>562913723
i healed my guild raid as disc on crown h, and wiped for like an hour plus, they insisted on having 25 people in there, and 4-7 dps that did marginally better than the prot warrior. The platform breaking sequences are so frustrating to play through as priest, if you got to heal as well. This guild is so slow with getting into mythic of any kind, i think teh raid lead is just afraid of hurting feelings by cutting.
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>>562903157
>May hold an in-game eulogy, date and location TBD. Feel free to crash it and be inappropriate he'd have loved that.
Do it in Warmode?
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Just got told my name was posted on a mass report discord and to expect a ban notice soon.

Bye for a while, I guess. I always know how to piss off the wrong people...
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>>562928871
This is going to be me in two weeks once im done with the 3k grind.
Won't be using consumes either.
I'll have earned it. Do I do single button rotation too?
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>>562929480
Or maybe you just need to be patient. You got all season to clear that shit. Doing raids with the boys is the real reward, achievements are just a by product. Cutting people is soulless bugman behavior.
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i got 3k second week
probably the easiest season ever
i usually take 6 or so weeks because pugs are so bad
but i pugged it all
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>>562929747
>pugging it before turbo boost for ez +3
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>>562929747
For m+? Show keystone mount
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>>562929747
But the raids are just as hard as usual and we can see your shitter 3/9 H :)
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>>562929747
doesn't 0.5 hand out free gear for easier clears? why rush?
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>>562929839
LOL
no they arent
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>>562929896
true
they are harder than ever before
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>>562929812
i never use any of these
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So whats 3k comparable to in pvp?
1600?
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>pvp
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pugging m+ difficulty list

>easy
Healer
>easy-medium
Tank
>hard
DPS
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>>562930048
3k is 2.4k
2.5k is 1.8k
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>>562930124
>
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>>562930124
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>>562929192
>tank joins
>brb pee 5 min
>starts talking about random shit that happened while everyone is waiting for him to press ready for 5 minutes
>"fuck i forgot pots brb 2 min"
>wife aggro mid run
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kek did they stop showing severed heads as quest items and instead started doing these sacks?
how fragile are wow players?
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>>562930124
>3k is 2.4k
>2.5k is 1.8k
waris peace
freedom is slavery
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>>562930264
It's true but only last week of the season after the full inflation.
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>>562930047
>Aerial Unit R-21/X
For some reason I always thought that was a boss drop.
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>tanks and healers think they have all the power
>can't complete a key or raid with just each other
i wish tanks and healers would just admit that it's a group effort and stop shitting on dps players
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>>562930124
>mfw I hit 2.8k in pvp last season
I'm literally above 3k on the m+ scale
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>>562930395
>healer thinks he is invited
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>3vs1vs1
fuck dps niggers
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very cute fellas
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>>562904242
>gingipumper
>floorpov
lel
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>>562930048

~1.8
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we don't mention very cute around here
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>>562930528
>Healers aren't needed in the meme mode where everyone has 25% leech and only takes 1% damage
no shit
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>>562930406
I went the other way this season. lost down to MMR floor in my opening blitz games. I'm not one to bitch about coinflip MMR hell and say you have no control over the games outcome, that'd be a lie, but man I feel like I'm gonna be here for a few games. I'm fine with it too like you see some shit down here
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>>562930715
blitz is especially bad if you lose your first couple of games, your mmr is cooked
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>>562929727
i agree, but they can afford to cut people like trials and randoms that are too shit, like the raid is just openly complaining about strategy and shit because of this.
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>>562930816
This. Just make a new character and it would be easier to climb
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>>562929804
>nah dude just wait and ignore it while its current content, so you can do it later after its stale and all the motivated players have abandoned it
>so you can instead do it with all the lazy effort-allergic retards later.
>it'll be so much easier dude!
zoomers think like niggers.
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>>562930048
It might be, a week ago. Doing shuffles early on when everyone is condensed in lower brackets is easily 3200 for this season's dungeons.
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remove pvp talents
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another week, another useless garbage vault
why does this thing even exist?
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Always funny to find out a Euro raider is a Balkanoid
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>>562931089
Bring back the pvp row so it's always good and not just a gem slot
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>>562931124
are we supposed to know who that is or where you took it?
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bring back rank decay so faggots cant park 10+ of their alts to take up 10+ gladiator ranks from other people
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>>562931089
to keep mazies and impulsive retards who are incapable of setting their own goals subbed.

I havent filled a vault yet this expansion, am having a good time, have made millions of gold and feel no vault anguish of any sort.
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>>562931175
gladiator isn't limited to x amount of players anymore THOUGH
only rank 1 is
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explain to me why we need seasons for delves and preys
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>>562931181
No one cares you're a shitter
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>>562931124
>bulgarian
>balkanoid
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>>562931243
why don't you explain why we don't first
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>>562931089
>i've been getting weapons and tier for 3 weeks in a row
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>>562931243
We need a new prey season to justify the final boss scenario where we add a prey orb to the Dawnwell
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>>562931124
>BVLLGARYAN
certified pumper
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>>562930395
>bears rival dps st burst every 2.5 minutes if they invest 10 talent points into incarn + maul and don't use ironfur
>immediately eat 3 nerfs in a row
in a just world everyone would do dps on top of having actual responsibilities
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>>562931357
PVMPING Gayreek asses full of cum
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surv or bm/mm loot spec for vault, survivalchads? have crafted dagger mh
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>>562930715
>>562930816
>>562930952
>started great with about 30-10 ratio
>suddenly lose 20+ matches row
>only get people lower than me from now on so even wins don't give much bump
Aha... ha...



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