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DARKNESS WITHIN DARKNESS WITHOUT Edition

>News:
Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138
Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121
Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108
Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99

>Wiki:
https://bg3.wiki

>Mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/

>FAQ:
>Q: How often should I long rest?
>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.
>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?
>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.
>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?
>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.
>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?
>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.
>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?
>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.
>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?
>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.

>Polls:
>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6
>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ
>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA
>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnY

OP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpasta

Previous thread: >>563224335
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were still doing this huh
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>>563469759
What do you mean, who's doing what?
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>>563469759
all you had to do was follow the damn pastebin cj
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Gorion's Ward once said:
I am excited for Divinity
Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms is an official Dungeons & Dragons tm game.
Minthara is canonically 150 years old, pansexual and neutral evil
I collect barrels and throw them at every boss including Minthara
Minthara did not watch Viconia leave in her childhood
Minthara is the throat goat
I respect all women but Minthara
If you romance Minthara you are a horrible person
If you romance Astarion you are a great person
I ascended Astarion
I romanced ascended Astarion
I play with lots of mods on
I fucked Halsin and Shadowheart at the same time and loved it
Shadowheart is right not to use her birthname
Shadowheart is not chaotic evil
Shar is neutral evil
Gale was groomed by Mystra
I play sorcerer
I camp cast
You can't find Mayrina's brothers' corpses
Karlach is okay for using soul coins
Wyll is a real character
I sympathized with Ketheric
I play male Tav
I love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarves
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I dare you. I double dare you. I triple dog dare you to stop playing Baldur's Gate 3 and uninstall it.
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>>563471198
nope I made 30 characters
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>>563471515
What other games do you have installed?
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>>563472230
other rpgs
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the ever vigilant frog never sheathes her crossbow
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What's a more fun DEX class? Hunter Ranger or Swashbuckler Rogue? No multiclassing.
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>I can tell you this - when the trivial parts have been whittled away, and I have sifted through what remains, in most cases a person amounts to nothing at all.
Minthara is so wise and well-spoken.
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>>563473545
Swash stays relevant in and out of combat, upclose and at distance.
The only thing I've ever seen anyone do with hunter ranger is a STR build that used the sword of chaos and the healing necklace to run up to groups of enemies and do the whirlwind attack to gain life and tank damage. It's a fine build but situational and doesn't do the thing until act 3.
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>gale gets put into the wyll corner
lmfao
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>>563473618
>>563474313
I HATE WIZARDS.
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>>563474505
in act 3 he gets put into the astarion corner. everytime i walked by those fucks i just though
>nah, not taking your ass to the bookstore and not taking the other one to his dads house
fuck em.
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>>563474510
stop trying to force this
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>>563474678
Force what?
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>>563474110
Hunter Ranger does get Volley which is legit one of the best abilities in the game. AoE attack that applies all your damage riders to each enemy in the AoE. But again it only comes online in Act 3 because they get it at level 11.
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>>563473618
She does have a lot of good lines. She also tells a couple rather funny jokes. What's there is indeed good, she just has less of it since she doesn't join until halfway through act 2.

Quality over quantity is quite alright with me.
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>>563475212
I love act 3

>>563475783
minthara was the only other character that made me laugh out loud after lae'zel
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>>563475948
>In Menzoberranzan
>something extremely fucked up
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>>563475783
sloppy rebound
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what would happen in a game world where i never met halsin but recruited shadowheart as laezel origin
i mean they kinda have tons of romantic dialogue together haha
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Nettie, my beloved
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>>563476992
base
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>>563478009
acid?
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>"Redhammer is a godless fool, but his love of gold outweighs any moral qualms he might have - he will do for now."
>wrote the Black Gauntlet in charge of the SW about the Dwarf

Yet I have mixed feelings about handing over this dude to the Waveservants for a good old fashioned eye-for-an-eye. Yes, I realize he's not a saint and I his read journal and notes. I'm not talking about the usual circles here. Pic rel was my first convo with him. He spilled the beans without any pressure, get us to the place without the promise of protection, didn't flinch when Gortash threatened us nor when the detonations happened and actually waited for us while we were inside. Redhammer had multiple opportunities to fuck over our party big time yet he handled every challenge without a peep and turned out to be a vital part of our rescue mission.

I'm thinking about knocking the Waveservanst out with Non-Lethal attacks in the inevitable fight as a compromise. I don't give a damn about the quest rewards.
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Divinity and bg3
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>>563471198
havent played bg3 for over 6 months
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>>563463513
>circus performers shouldn't wear make up especially the elves, the twinkiest of dnd races
>dragonborns shouldn't sell weapons
>aylin should be a male because lesbians are gross or something
my GOD chuds are lame no wonder they're losing everything right now ruining videogames is all they have left
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>>563471198
Why? I only play BG3 every so often. Once I'm done with my playthroughs. I'll be gone until the urge to play strikes again.
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oh my god I love when the game allows you to be a retard, LOVE IT
another great moment is when you tell the emperor that you refuse to give him an information and he tells you that he can literally read your mind
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>>563484286
geraldus detected
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https://youtu.be/SNcRmRRrTYk?si=GZ14ShBzIo8XGJzY
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>>563482776
Don't bully the chuds, they just lost Thisobald.
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>>563486326
he looks like he romances minthara/laezel
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>>563486449
this!
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>>563474714
>Force what?

>>563482819
You don't have a high enough WIS to resist or you just decide to embrace it?
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>>563473097
if you squint it looks like as if it her forearm was replaced with the crossbow
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Anyone tried the rape mod from ll?
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>>563480071
Shit. I guess you can call this karma. I ended up separating the question into two: I gave him up, as that's what we agreed in the temple; then attacked the waveservants with Non-Lethal attacks to give Redhammer a chance to get out of the city. Gortash dislikes loose ends after all and it was the priestess' leader who forced this into a "he or us" situation with the threat of deadly violence. Optimally I would've been able to finish the fight with all "mermaids" Knocked Out while keeping Redhammer from delivering the killing blow on any of them but shit happens. At least he will rest next to his beloved Cap instead at the depths of a cold cave after being waterboarded to death.
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>>563502228
Looks like the Bitch Queen will have her due.
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ok so far the only bg3 companion mods people are working on are:
>the 4(6?) from the menzobarrenzan mod that will drop god knows when
>the helia restoration mod
>a dropped(?) male drow warlock mod
>and last but not least, a gay, trans female to male jewish gay half elf cowboy wizard, no I'm not kidding and the worst part is that it's the highest quality mod of the bunch as far as I know

and all of that after getting 3 years to cook and the dev tools, what the fuck, fucking skyrim gets companion mods every week
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>>563502990
The funniest part of this was the rescued NPCs casually strolling all over the place (in real time) while you were stuck fighting Water Elements (in turn-based mode). Even better they were treated as allies who benefited from all your AoE healings and buffs despite not participating in the fight. I wonder if Ulder would've been treated the same way (remember, we had him as an attached follower before!) but he only emerged from Cap after we were finished. How convenient!
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>>563505548
>a gay, trans female to male jewish gay half elf cowboy wizard
Is that the Jason?? one. I can't believe they put effort into making that.
>>563505925
Cowards
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>>563505997
>Is that the Jason?
yup, I checked the comments on the mod page because I figured that there's no way someone autistic enough to make a mod this good doesn't have a few screws loose and it turns out that jason is the modder's self insert and he's so autistic about it that he's working on ways to tweak the game's data to only allow male tavs & origin to romance his OC, there you have it, one of the best bg3 mod is about a gay elf cowboy KEK
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>>563505997
>>563506274
>>a gay, trans female to male jewish gay half elf cowboy wizard
>it turns out that jason is the modder's self insert
Imagine my surprise! Every. Damn. Time.
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>>563506274
>jason is the modder's self insert
Explains why his name is Jason. How does Jason feel if I KILL him (ingame)
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>>563505548
Inigo is the only worthwhile companion mod I've ever seen, and I tried a lot of them. If these people could write or act they would be working on their own games instead of making mods.
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>>563506687
you can't trust waifugooners to create anything
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The parasite's newfound interest in the personal lives or views of mod authors is not on topic. And oh my god, did you see how the author of Really Shadowheart got banned from nexusmods? The same goes for its fixation on how openly gay and degenerate the writers are - to say nothing of the sick and twisted mind (Welch) that came up with the romance between the Dark Urge and Astarion. If that creature could understand characterization, it wouldn't be clamoring for a Sazza or "femboy" Geraldus companion mod. But this is what it has to offer. Stupidity and ugliness.
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>just noticed Omeluum gave me a backpack with all his stuff after teleporting home
T-thanks? Creation's Echo in the middle is a dead giveaway. The numbers are off (see >>563405037) but this more or less his inventory's content. I knew I sold him my remaining supply from the Nautiloid so that might explain the difference between the two.
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>>563509003
wheres your nametranny screenshot
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>>563511221
Lae'zel had a similar opinion about Orin except she called her a "shivering child". Neither statement is particularly on point imho.
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>>563475783
Beautiful. Minthara, I mean. The line deserves some credit, too. There is wisdom in recognizing the paradox of Karlach - "ferocious and unassailable", and yet so "fragile and impermanent." Maybe Minthara is a bard after all. Most people, whether inside or outside the story, can only see the surface - they stop at appearance. But this story is not about ordinary people - who, in most cases, amount to nothing at all - or surface-level beauty. This story is about extraordinary individuals, beautiful in their existence.
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>>563513659
Karlach is a cutie, too bad the Avernus content was all cut
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karlach pegged my tav and he liked it
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>>563514426
Those who fear pegging can just play female tav
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Helia...
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>>563514426
That act three sex scene is nasty. Here I thought I was having a nice vanilla romance with her, a good wholesome Christian relationship, true love with a cute genki tomboy type who I couldn't even kiss for such a long time, when suddenly I get that perverted shit forced on me. And right after such an innocent dinner date scene, too. At least give me a choice if you're going to insert your fetishes into your game.
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There really is nowhere to go, crpg is just as bad as here if not worse. Schizo trannies or schizo redditor trannies, that's it. The entire internet has been destroyed.
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>>563516191
>. At least give me a choice if you're going to insert your fetishes into your game.
she's not actually pegging you lol they ran out of time and didn't have time to make a sex scene for male tavs
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>>563516274
>this is the cope they have to come up with
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>>563516460
gale would get pegged
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>>563516460
I don't approve of this couple
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>>563517000
why? they're heartbomb buddies
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What's your favorite track on the OST?

https://youtu.be/8Tc2bxO0qMw
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>>563517509
https://youtu.be/5TCOtEJD6zk?si=OK9ubMHc5Tu-sz-h
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What would you reply to a fella who argues their story is pretty much the same?
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>>563517509
The music fucking sucks dude. None of it is memorable enough to have a favorite
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>>563519513
This HAS to be bait
whiner pull up the copypasta about the soundtrack, I don't remember what I wrote
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>>563519667
>the big popular game of the year won the popularity contest
Game Awards aren't indicative of quality.
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>>563519513
Shaddap
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>>563519513
bait
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>>563519667
>>563520070
>I dont like this opinion, it MUST BE BAIT!!!
retards
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>>563519778
BAFTAs they have a different weight than that useless TGA show filled with commercials

>>563520195
If you want to say that something respected and appreciated by many has no value, you'd better argue a bit instead of just posting "contrarian content" for the sake of generating engagement with your post
sadly this has been the mo for many around these parts
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>>563520393
What's the point of providing actual arguments on this general? Even if I did put effort in, it would be either ignored or otherwise shitposted on so that people can get back to posting Lae'zel over and over
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how far into the game before you reach a level with enough fun stuff unlocked?
i keep making new characters and have only made it to the entrance of the goblin camp
but every class feels like the same, why can't you start at level 5?
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>>563520874
act 3 is where the fun begins
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>>563520696
thats a whole other discourse
but then again, to remain consistent then it wouldn't even make sense to write that the music sucks to begin with
be the change you want to see, anon

cut Gale's hand
stab astarion with a stake
throw the Spectator flask during the thiefling camp party

>>563520874
post lvl5, around the goblin camp, is where characters become fun and builds more viable
>why can't you start at level 5
something something tadpoles eat their brains
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>>563520696
>Even if I did put effort in, it would be either ignored or otherwise shitposted
you can thank the sharter elements ITT for that, they are consistently the lowest quality posters, constantly posting "kys" to well thought out posts from the namefag
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The swine cannot go two posts without being self-referential. I briefly considered answering that question as well. But animals are incapable of understanding characterization or character arcs. They see a similarity - both Lae'zel and Shadowheart renounce their goddesses, both Astarion and Karlach were slaves - and misidentify that as a "theme." But surface-level similarities or even shared traits are not automatically themes. You're not saying anything about trauma by giving every character a traumatic backstory.
>All parental figures and surrogates in this game are awful
>like a telling tale of the writers' relationships with their parents...weird.
Genuine, not performative, stupidity, by the way. This is what the subhuman has to offer, when it's not joking about Astarion being sexually abused.
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no no no I said the other one about music and the soundtrack, don't you want to actually contrinute to the discussion for once?
you could have been useful for once, sigh

>by giving every character a traumatic backstory
literally and factually every origin character in this game btw
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>>563521821
kill youself
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>>563520874
Pick something and stick with it you ADHD-addled retard. Better yet, slit your throat.
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>>563520874
Subclasses unlock at level 3. What did you expect before that? Martial gets a big boost at 5 with Extra Attack but even caster classes get their second Subclass Feature by 6. If that's somehow still not enough by that time you should have collected enough magical items to spice things up.
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>>563520874
lvl 5 is when it becomes fun and when classes start to become their own
> why can't you start at level 5?
lol
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>>563521554
>>563521821
You are very annoying
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>>563519778
>"The music is awesome because it won many awards!"
Appeal to popularity.
>"I like Swen because Swen is liked by everyone!"
Circular reasoning.

There is a pattern. These are the same stupid creatures that accuse others of adopting contrarian talking points for engagement. Of course, stupidity is not something that they need to feign - it comes very naturally to them. For the record, I like the soundtrack. It's difficult to pick just one favorite, but lately I've been listening to Down By The River.
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>>563523123
fat gross character
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fine I'll do it myself then, sigh!

>>500823135
>>473205996
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>>563523228
no, this is: https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/22308
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>>563524072
I will now buy your game
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>>563524016
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>>563523123
kill your self
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>>563524072
>>563524443
baste
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Rolan, Geraldus & Zevlor are /bgg/'s precious babies.
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>>563524443
incredible
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>>563524841
>>563524971
huh what
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>>563525157
the shitposter is a mobileuser
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it's called a typo, you guys are so lame
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>>563525224
Nothing shitposty about it
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>>563525441
he's projecting, idk how Rolan, Geraldus & Zevlor would piss off anyone
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>>563525578
the schizoid hates dreamed companions
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>>563524971
>Zevlor
I have killed him everytime even if otherwise i have saved thieflings
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daily shadowbaby
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>>563526171
I will now pray to Shar
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>>563526171
no fanart of her doing that heart-butt trend?
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>>563527150
good, it's corny as fuck
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>>563520567
Goddamn smug frog, I love her so much.
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>>563527784
Replace Wyll with Nere or Geraldus
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>>563528017
>BG3 if it were peak
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>>563528017
bg3 if it was chinese
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>>563528187
kek
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dang twitter found out about all the cut bg3 plotlines
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>>563529765
>"Wizard..."
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>>563528884
>more goth
Vanilla Shart doesn't even look goth in the first place
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>>563524443
saved
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>>563529765
Imagine the smell
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the summer game fest...I can smell it...bg3's successor...the biggest baddest coolest deepest larian game yet...and the coolest part is that it's still not swen's dream game...it really is a good day to be a larian fan
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>>563492258
>talking about an aspect of a character I like in a game I like that happens to be the topic of the general I'm posting in
>this is somehow a problem
Go harass someone else.
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>>563533531
For the record I'm not that Anon. I should've probably said that. I just remembered I had a fitting screenshot for this Wizard meme.

>>563524443
OC fresh out of the oven? If so well done!
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>>563533006
The wait is unbearable tbqhbbw
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>>563540285
1 month and a half left before they reveal some of the companions
bg3's companions were one of the best thing about the game, I got high expectations
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>>563540729
nothing stops you from discussing this in the proper general, cRPG
would you still doing this bit if it didnt piss of the whiner? I bet theres more people there if you really want to discuss next larian's game
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I'm unsure about what's the best ending for Wyll. Leaving up to his own devices he chooses to be the Blade of Avernus. Which sounds a pretty idiotic without his Warlock powers. Throwing himself into an endless meat grinder until he gets overwhelmed? Maybe if he had some terminal illness and wanted to spent the rest of his life on a suicide mission it'd make sense. Speaking of which the only reason I'm considering this option is to have somebody accompany Karlach to the Hell. It's still a pretty idiotic move and I feel we just delaying the inevitable but it at least has an additional purpose now.

I'm not sure if there's a Persuasion check involved in convincing her to choose that route but if it does that adds some uncertainty to my low CHA Tav. Back to Wyll we also have the Mizora wanting to take revenge on the Grand Duke issue, so having the Blade nearby for practical and political reasons makes a lot of sense. Especially if you take into account how Gortash mass slaughtered the nobles who attended his coronation. I know he's not too fond of diplomacy but he has the necessary skills and pedigree for the job. Meanwhile the one above is the only ending I consider "good" for (non-romanced) K, so it's hard to decide what to do.
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>>563541191
oh yes why would people POSSIBLY talk about the game that's teased in bg3, has cameos in bg3, is made by the same devs that made bg3 and is about to have a trailer in less than 2 months yeah why would ANYONE talk about it on the baldur's gate 3 general surely it has to because of some off topic reason right?
my GOD you guys are lame, I'll keep talking about divinity because it's on topic and I'm excited, don't like it? filter away
bitch
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>>563542736
what I'm trying to say to you, in the clearest and non hostile way possible, is that yes, it's kind off topic talking about about "Divinity" in the "Baldur's Gate 3" general thread. we all know its the same developers and theres easter eggs to their previous work, but you dont seen people discussing fallout 76 in TES generals
its different games, matter of fact, one of them is not even out yet and we only have a cinematic trailer to discuss
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>>563543227
> is that yes, it's kind off topic talking about about "Divinity" in the "Baldur's Gate 3" general thread.
IT'S NOT OH MY GOD THEY LITERALLY SHARE THE SAME MULTIVERSE
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>>563543341
That sounds more like an easter egg
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>>563543487
how? he literally interacts with lenore in act 1?
AND
the sharrans in act 3
yall are just playing the thread police at this point, I don't see any of you bitching about the resident shitposters & the cropped cuckporn spam only the heartfelt posts about divinity or bg3 mods
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>>563542208
The issue with debating this is that Wyll never articulates any goals for himself, he's just there for others and his story reflects this.
Every other character at least has some goal they intent to achieve after completing the main quest, Wyll is just a blank slate going from quest to quest without personal drive.
So the entire decision just comes down what is good for others, and the choice there is clear
>keep the pact (dad remains alive and can help rebuild Baldur's Gate)
>go to hell with Karlach (making the choice to become duke irrelevant anyway)

You can argue about it if Karlach is either dead, you want to see her explode or become a squid but, then Wyll is free to become a Duke but with the pact intact, it's basically a ticking timebomb that needs to have a solid Plan B.
Breaking the pact, saving his dad and becoming Duke would be the best option, though that ending is pretty niche and also has Mizora actively seek revenge upon the Ravenguards.
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>>563543987
>putting this much import on a throwaway line
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>>563543987
That doesn't really affect the gameplay in any meaningful way. It's literally just a throw-away easter egg for DOS II fans.
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>>563535294
Ah, my apologies then.
I actually forgot about Naaber. While his antics are fun the first time, it's not really a fun interaction on repeat playthroughs as the only things that change are your responses and his response to that. The overall flow is the exact same every time.
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>>563544606
>something needs to affect gameplay to be significant
ive never seen someone be so wrong
if these kinds of things didnt matter then books in every rpg would be empty because there would be no point to environmental storytelling
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>>563544340
First time? Have you never played Skyrim?
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>>563545570
I might have taken it more seriously if it was a character special to WOTC or DND in general but it's quite literally just their own OC from a completely different IP. Just an easter egg.
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I found a shadowheart ponytail in the wild
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>>563545405
>talking about the "good old days"
I know J, I was there twenty years ago...
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>>563544340
unfortunately you are not the final arbiter on what does or doesnt count
now unlike the other guy im not saying for sure he is entangled in the forgotten realms lore and really did cross over universes
im just saying you cant really say definitively that hes wrong just that anything he has is speculative or circumstantial at best to be desu i agree with you that claiming they share the same multiverse is a stretch but he should be allowed to speculate on tarquins existence in forgotten realms not about the rest of the divinity stuff
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>>563546315
shit meant for >>563545724
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see what I'm talking about? they put more efforts into bitching & whining than actually talk about bg3
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>>563546315
>unfortunately you are not the final arbiter on what does or doesnt count
Hey how come I never see you say this to the sharters who want to pretend the dreams didn't happen
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>>563546525
what does that have to do with anything????
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>>563546525
go away faggot go drink bleach or something i am trying to talk about the game with someone here
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>>563543987
>yall are just playing the thread police at this point
No, it's just that more posters are starting to realize that you're a worthless parasite using the "tangentially related" pretext to shit up threads. There can be no pretense that >>563533006 and >>563540729 are on topic, let alone meant to spark any meaningful discussion. Then again, neither is sharing some random tweet or youtube comment. Different anons react to your obnoxious presence in different ways. Most are indifferent. The Lae'zel spammer will create early threads to prevent your shitty, low-effort, advertising ones. And I started calling out that shit months ago, when that behavior started becoming truly intrusive. Reminder that generals die not because of a lack of activity - or "engagement," as the unintelligent swine puts it - but because of apathy. Crying about the non-character or Minthara is at least vaguely "on topic." Stick to that.
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Withers X Myrkul
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>>563521821
To be fair it's hard for Vlaakith to be a good parental figure when Gith is the only one in the species to be called "mother" and she's still alive and trapped in Dispater's tower.
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>>563549919
>t.
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https://www.deviantart.com/lyumos/art/Baldur-s-Gate-3-Shar-cosplay-by-Lada-Lyumos-1321444759
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>>563550865
>wahhh tr*ns
larian is based for pissing on "people" like this
bg3 truly is game of the decade
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>>563551769
hello minthara enjoyer, had any dreams lately?
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Alright gentlemen who should I romance? Aerie, Viconia, or Jaheria?
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>>563550865
What kind of person self-inserts as a bugbear plapping a she-ogre unless it is to troll?
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>>563552257
what's funny is that bugbear must have had crazy dick game if he could pleasure an ogre thrice his size
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>>563552257
Obviously a mentally ill person such as the average AAA writer in the last five years would and they do so seriously.
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>>563552630
So an undercover AAA writer wrote an article criticizing Larian about penis-shaming a bugbear?
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>>563551893
honestly bg3 is sometimes so weirdly written & rushed some scenes/characters manage to piss off both sides of the political spectrum at the same time *cough cough* wyll
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>>563552787
Probably one of his friends.
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Take the Wyllpill
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>>563552816
>*cough cough* wyll
Doesn't piss off anyone. Needs actual content to truly piss off someone; content wyll does not have.
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>>563553009
This seems to be a little too obvious.
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>>563553046
speak for yourself, wyll's lack of personality is super duper annoying
>>563553193
let him cook
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>>563550843
To be fair, it's rather heavy-handed that every Origin companion has a complicated and often abusive relationship with an authority figure (often divine) who shaped their lives. It's not exactly an insightful observation to make - even the average redditor can make a Venn diagram about it. But once again, a repeated motif is not automatically a theme. You're not saying anything meaningful about religion or faith just by having Lae'zel, Shadowheart, Minthara, and the Dark Urge lose faith and outright renounce their gods. Motif is observable. Theme (meaning) is interpretative. A story means something to the average person. The swine suggests that Astarion was tortured for the better part of two hundred years only because his writer must have a bad relationship with his dad. That's the extent of its "intellect."
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we're rich
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>>563553565
The loreful insight re: Lae'zel is that being abused by Vlaakith is part of being a githyanki, if she was a githzerai being abused by an authority figure could be something specific to her as an individual.
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you guys said he wasn't companion material...
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>>563554162
:(
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>>563554361
In the rather unlikely case BG3 needed some chud who's obsessed with Aylin as a companion, Balthazar still has him beat.
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>>563554795
aradin got skibidi rizz with that haircut of his and him butting head with tav to see who gets to lead the party would have been hilarious
fun fact: Aradin's party is named the Beno Boys even though one of the member is a woman
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Perhaps you'd care for a little extra company...
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>>563553274
I usually just click through his dialogue and leave him in camp. He only leaves camp if I want a rapier.
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>>563554162
Right. It's also possible Lae'zel doesn't even conceptualize it as abuse. She doesn't view herself as a victim. She feels heartbroken and betrayed upon learning the truth, of course, but that's different. That's the danger in trying to equate characters and companions simply because they share a similar character arc. Lae'zel is not Shadowheart is not Minthara is not the Dark Urge. Any attempt to flatten these characters and put them all into a tiny box is misguided at best, and entirely stupid at worst. But nuance in characterization doesn't get award ceremonies, so the swine was never told it's there. At least it can post its favorite track.
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>>563471198
I did it.
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>>563549919
kill
your self
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>>563553862
That was just in 2023. Game's sold 20+ million copies now, and is one of the highest grossing paid games on Steam.
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>>563559630
common Swen W
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>>563554832
Big!
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Shaddy why...
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swen better use his billions to hire UI programmers & artists that are actually competent for divinity, bg3's inventory is SO FUCKING BAD
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>>563561159
>pure delusion
yup she wants karlach to carry her not the toad
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>>563561159
>pure delusion
yep shart is a sharer and lae'zel doesn't share
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>>563561368
oh my god aren't you tired of bringing up this garbage
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cucks aren't welcome in this general
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>>563561552
this but you and that tarquin nonsense!
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>>563561691
>>563561783
I guess that's a no?
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>>563561969
no it doesn't get tiring, it makes you sharters seethe every time it's hilarious.
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Canonical ending? Everyone dies except Shadowheart and Durge. Realm is repopulated entirely by Lizard/Half-Elf Bhaalspawn.
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>>563561783
in a year or two you'll get a tarquin nonsense edition mark my words
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>>563561368
High-quality webbum. Have a frog.
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I love my cute frog!
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I am attempting to romance Astarion. If I am supportive but also urge him to take Araj's potion, do I lose out on his romance? My character is right about that potion being able to change our fate..
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>>563564183
you can manipulate him into staying with you. google it. its kinda fuucked up
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>>563561368
lae'zel's writer literally planned her to be with shart
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>>563564248
I don't think I've ever actually done the Astarion romance so I just wanted to know if there's a chance or if this is a hard wall. Outside the romance he is supportive, saying that he doesn't really give the impression of someone who would care. I'll go in blind, but the potion I'm getting is for him to use so I hope that will help.
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>>563564939
>would care
no he definitely cares
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people keep astarion around for reasons other than the STR potion?
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>>563565237
iirc the line went something along the lines of "All the promiscuous jibes paint a picture of someone who would relish the deed. You couldn't really have known." I know he would care, I mean that he understands that the player may not have known the true meaning of making him do that until he tells you. In the platonic version, anyway.
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>>563565267
I like characters that make me feel like I'm not in a party of moralfags. Lae'zel, Shadowheart, Astarion, Minthara, and Gale are all my standard go-to's.
>Gale
Is more of a neutralfag, honestly. Maybe Neutral Good.
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>>563565457
you will see more on his romance how he really feels about it
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>>563563987
hm
>>563564049
cute frog
>>563564589
unfortunately reality does not reflect your ego!
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Divinity
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>>563565267
he's a funny sounding homosexual
>>563565718
ack and wyll i consider good since they leave if you assault the grove but gale is like neutral neutral since he can be convinced to stay
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>>563566010
>unfortunately reality does not reflect your ego!
huh? that's straight from the writer. what the hell are you talking about
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>>563566427
his cope is that it doesnt count unless it fits his definition of canon
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if it isn't in game its not canon

simple as
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>>563566564
what's canon is what's in the game, what the devs intentions were are irrelevant
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>>563566652
kevin vanord created lae'zel. he thinks for lae'zel. he thinks shart is her ideal partner.

kevin even created this for origin shart. its like a hundred times more romantic than anything tav can say to her
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toadcel's daily seethe
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>>563566937
shart and lae'zel pairing up is not in the game thus it is not canon, you delusional retard. it really is that simple.
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Divinity Astarion
Divinity Shadowheart
Divinity Karlach
Divinity Gale
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see what i mean
its the ultimate cope
no one can tell him hes wrong
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>>563567320
there isn't even a canon until the show comes out and continues their storylines. stop malding so much. shart is her preferred match
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and that literally applies to you too!

except one of us is based in reality (game) while yours are twitter screenshots!
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>>563567591
he's a chud i think. larian loves shadowzel and he just can't accept it
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>>563567658
you can raid the grove as origin karlach, that doesn't mean it's canon to her character.
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>>563567781
yyes hes a chud
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>>563567956
TRVTHNVKE
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>>563567956
did you miss what i said? there isn't a canon until the show comes out. we don't know if orpheus is alive or dead, among many other things. shadowzel could be canon in the show, it might not.

kevin still would have put inter-companion romances in the game if the project didn't get re scoped though. he wanted shadowzel
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>using some fag companion mod when we already have fagstarion (who you can play as origin, give a cool haircut + tattoos, and put in a loving, heterosexual, monogamous relationship with best girl Laelae, thus negating any gay bullshit from his VA/writer and just playing him as a cool vampire)
>couldn't be me
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>>563568248
shartsin might be canon too then huh
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>>563568326
could be but i seriously doubt it. if she's gonna be in a relationship with anybody, there's a 99% chance it's either shadowzel or shadowlach
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oh i see when it doesn't suit your headcanon you seriously doubt it when it does everything including noningame is real
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you frogfags need to do a better job of bullying sharters out of the general, they're insufferably stupid.
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>>563568285
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toadcel talking to himself
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>>563568518
no? the writers prefer shadowzel. the show director said he's gonna be working with the videogame va's. jennifer english and devora wilde like shadowzel too. it's a pretty popular ship. use some basic common sense man
>>563568669
yeah he's just really mad. i'm not even a waifufag. i like every female companion
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unfortunately we deal in realities here and not what could have beens

and the events in game are so real that a mod to remove that event is the most popular mod for that character
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for a two handed weapon, which type should I be aiming for? Swords, axes, or halberds?
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>>563569183
man you really love to deflect lmao. we'll see what the showrunner does, not to mention origin runs are no less "canon" than anything else. bg3 doesn't have a canon route
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its not deflection its ignoring the ramblings of a mad man who doesn't deal in realities
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>>563569438
glaives, pikes and halberds get a full meter of reach compared to other weapons which can be handy
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>>563569183
the reality is that shadowzel is canon
tav is not canon and therefore nothing you experience as tav is canon
durge is also not canon as they are dead in all timelines except one
only origins are canon and in shart or laezel origin they are extremely horny for each other
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>>563569674
which is going to regularly destroy everything I be dumb Fighter at? From Act 1 to Act 3
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>tav only exists when you play it
>durge is only alive if you play as him
>origins exist no matter what choice you make
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT MENTION ORIGINS THEY ARENT CANOOOOONNNNNNN
really makes you think doesnt it
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how do you reconcile contradictory canon then? lae'zel will refuse the threesome with the drow twins, while as an origin you can of course do it. these can't both be canon, so which is it?
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>>563569540
you tried to compare origin karlach raiding the grove to shadowzel. one situation is the player deliberately acting contrary to companion karlach. the other situation is a nod to content that was planned but had to be cut for the sake of a timely release date for the game. shadowzel doesn't run contrary to either of their characters

you are the king of disingenuous arguments
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>you
uh oh wrong right out of the gate post discarded
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>>563568653
hey I made that one! thank you based frog enjoyer
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The answer is no one gives a fuck about your "canon" except people who are autistic and have to define their actual world view on fictional video game characters. I have never seen anyone ask what is canon except here, and we know 4chan attracts autists like flies to honey. I will simply enjoy the game while you continue to spew your schizobabble here regardless of whether I am present or not.
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>>563569852
Yeah, there's no way "Tav" will exist in the canon
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>>563569843
well as you progress through the acts you'll come across weapons that are +1, +2 and eventually +3. you do want to swap a +1 for a +2 and a +2 for a +3 because that'll both increase your chance to hit AND the damage you deal

>>563570132
kek and i made that oh baby edit, good times
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the final defense of the sharter
>shart lusting after halsin isn't canon because there is no canon!
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I'm not using Lae'zel this run, but whoever shilled EK I'd like to thank you. I'm using the 1d6 Lightning damage bound weapon and it feels good. Only downside is that being a third class spellcaster means that I functionally have no access to magic.
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>anyone who says something i dont like is my thread enemy
the cope is evolving in ways I didnt think was possible
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The dude got destroyed in an argument. His final defense is to start talking about Halsin
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Toadcel ONLY talks about Sh and Big H
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>>563570965
be honest are you the shaddy big h spammer
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Astarion!
He's the pookie.
Astarion!
So perfect and spooky.
Astarion!
The beating of our liiiiiivvveeesss.
Astarion!
Oh so handsome~
Astarion!
Infinite wisdom.
Astarion!
I want to give him all my blooooodd...
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>>563571086
no gross
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>>563569843
>>563570480
whoops i was wrong there are no +3 extra reach weapons
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the poke squad
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>had 11 illithid powers stored
>look at my counter
>dropped to 10
>haven't spent any
???
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>>563570480
kek the fucking chance that we post each others maymays. blessed by the cute frog
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>>563574437
must be the psionics



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