A simple man - EditionPrevious thread: >>563248340>Official site:warthunder.com/>Custom sights, skins, hangars, ui & sound mods, etc:live.warthunder.com/>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old, better wiki (no longer updated but better layout):old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC:steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020>/// Top Tier jet gameplay FAQ ///>DO I HAVE TO WATCH ALL OF THEMYes.>BUT-Don't cry here then.>HOW DO I STOP DYING?https://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ?si=SRQAfaFmUHUHCX20https://youtu.be/xrNJZmA9aL8?si=EmBVLsEPpqBkBrdjhttps://youtu.be/SUgf2kaQPdc?si=JT3Ra3JekweNfXGShttps://youtu.be/_gp77rkWXVs?si=GysAtw_GtsLecZw2https://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk?si=MUroEf8K6BswauiQhttps://youtu.be/NYfNbDZw5J8?si=_rCIglb0PwI-QDft>HOW DO I GET KILLS?https://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfA?si=U5XORrB1CdNpqCZOhttps://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFU?si=IYR-mm3xKcSlJFQshttps://youtu.be/85QqlxXMywU?si=8FLv_ZNaAa6Oz9H_https://youtu.be/iaDMyKEW5Vc?si=rcC_CSLNM3C0_PQm>HELP I TRIED ALL OF THE ABOVE AND IT DOESN'T WORKPost replay / clip with data with sensor view on to get feedback and tips.>BUT MUH ANONIMIT-Shut the fuck up and get good then.>Hi-tech "slavmonkey / chinkroach to white people" communicator (post any fanmail you get):translate.yandex.com/ocr>/// It’s fixed! №114 ///>You can now track ALL of your dropped air munitions by clicking their new icons on the map.>Added new "newfag-retard" countermeasures for automatic bomb release using CCRP + Target Point.>Fixed players missing from replays.https://youtu.be/1acWg-c5Buo?si=I-jZe3GzoOPLoRPO&t=13Reminder: Plane game.Thread theme: https://youtu.be/8GmvXqIcRQs?si=iwjo-JpPGTAXlP8L
now that the dust has settleddoes keeping datalink to fakours messes up your gains?
afternoon
>fakoursenjoy getting gaped by PL-12s lol
>chinks and other assorted subhumans spamming walls of JDAMs/Groms just to mess with fakoursGODSkek peak beta sissycuck behaviour
>reporting name flanker>flank>get killswoah
>>563667965ok soryuu
Free SPAAGgers have made turning an almost lost game around with precision CAS hits impossible.
>suck at ground vehicles in GROUND battles>try to pussy out and get free kills with airsissy vehicles and mashing spacebar like a mouth breather>get fucked by Gaijin issued SPAAGod vehicles>this causes the airtranny to dilateLove to see it.
>pidor?>Yes pidor!
>>563668156It sure is cool that it also has the double effect of one team usually collapsing because half their respawns are stock AA guns
in?
>>563668053who is that? its a cute name but im just a fat slob
>>563668608Yet another bushmaster shitbox but if the shitbox part of it was even shittier than usual
I used to run duos with Soryuu and Gaijiggles back in the day, shame to see both of them to fall to inane faggotry.
>>563668590And then side with free ZA-35 having a major boost.
catch my vikhr...
>>563668875*opens my mouth*
>>563668875*opens my ass*
>>563668875>>563668937Hot.
Its always one.every single fucking time.
>>563669336aye dis nigga doin the poop pass LMAO
>12.7 sim>always just filled with premium hornets because german players cant learn a MiG-29fucking niggers
>>563669656There isn't a single thing the shit-29 is better at than the premium Hornet, why would they waste their time learning abysmal dogshit?
>>563669774He has Germany (WT) Derangement Syndrome, it's pointless to even reason with that animal.
>>563669774because they are paypiggy faggots, that's all I'm mad about
How the fuck is this thing still a 9.0? Downtiers are literally unfair, I am faster than everything, with insane armor, and solid firepower.
>faggot has fox 3 so he can just fnf me in uptier>have to decide wether to keep my radar lock for my fox 1 or evade like a bitch and by the the time i notch the game is overbravo
Wow the needful goes so much faster in top tier lol
>>56367006929% WR will let you get away with any bullshit.
2 3 4
>>563668608
its a lot faster than the J8A
I love this thing so much, just wish it got thermals and a little bit more zoom. But that would probably spike the BR and its fun where it's at
i4w?
a lot faster than the J11
>>563668820Were you the lucky Pierre?
Sirs! the event has begun! Please do the needful!
>>563668820>I used to run duos with Soryuu and Gaijiggles back in the dayi'm one of the people in this sentence and have never duoed with anyone in WT besides my gfwut are you on about
>>563673124I fought hard to escape the flareless supersonics i am not grinding this much just to have the opportunity to go back there
>>563673124Already on it boss
>>563673124i cant be fucked
Did they buff Firestreaks?Been spading the Javelin today while researching Hawk 200s, and I seem to be getting a lot more kills with them than when I first got the Javelin, and they seem better than say AIM-9Bs at similar BRs
>>563673194Which one?
>>563673660firestreaks have always been weirdly effective compared to 9Bstheyre kinda like shafir 2s in my experience, somewhere between a 9B and an 9E
>>563673860>shafir 2s >worse than 9ELolwut? They have MASSIVELY better pull, more range and a much wider pre-launch gimbal limit. They're more like 9Gs with a shittier engine.
>>563668820I remember feeling bad running duos with some fellow wartg because i kept tryharding to win matches and spawning entire lineups while he had to wait nearly half an hour at the hangar>t.the other guy>>563673774It was one time i tried that decal, leave me alone
Damn, that's crazy.
>>563671329greater than the sum of its parts>>563672631putting the reddit federation to unbearable shame
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Hello everyone hope you're doing well
As always I hope you have a wonderful day
>>563666662Would Gagarin play war thunder?
Why are the Javelin's engines different lol?
>>563678107because one had to be mirrored for some reasonanother jet did this but I cannot remember which one off the top of my head
why is this dogshit chink robot vacuum incapable of cleaning its mops properly holy fuck
Another thread, another Avon sabre when post
>>563678649Tell me more about it, how does it differ from what we have? Better than the CL-13B Mk.6?
Ruspidors are so silly
>>563678828Imagine hunter power with a sabre airframe and 2xADENs It's heavier than the sabre thoughIt's different because it would give Britain a T6 aircraft that's actually worth playing
>>563678828Best engines and two adens.
>ADENRuin a Sabre challenge.
Any gooner sound mods for RWR? It makes me horny
impeccable taste
>zrzut ekranu
>>563679153>T6 aircraft that's actually worth playingBrother your Hunter F6? Lightning? Even Javelin FAW?Are you merely pretending?
ngl bmpt is very average as far as survivability goes, most likely a merkava mk4 beats it over the head.Slow as shit, atrocious weaponry for the br, you can do the same amount of damage with a bmd4 or even more with a bmp2m and both give you a ticket to cas.I suppose its only saving grace is that the average shitter versing another average shitter will have a better chance of surviving and scoring a kill thanks to its autocannon and armor letting said autocannon spray for days
>poolish
What is the no escape range for the PL-12?
>>563679305>Best enginesOrenda 14s on the Canadair Sabre Mk.6 were more or less the same as Avon 26s on the CAC Sabre Mk.32sThe Canadair plane had better performance by nature of being lighter, but 30mms on a Sabre would be fun.Ideally the Bong tree would get a Mk.4 (actually used by Britain), a Canadian Mk.6 (premium maybe), and an Aussie Mk.32Japs can also get Avon Sabres through Indonesia and Malaysia. So I can definitely see them being added at some point
>>563679359>[WARTG]Dorit_REE in charge of not being a raging homo for one thread straightthis is why the squadron is dead
>>563679514>Hunter F6Only good for SRAAM memes. A 9.7 subsonic with no flairs is never going to be good>Lightning AliExpress F104. Same limitations, worse platform. >Javelin Shits energy with any maneuver, especially if you take all 4 guns and all 4 firestreaksThese aircraft are not your CL13Bs, not your F104As, not your MiG19sThey aren't without merits but none of them are good
>>563679534depends on your speed when launching and the altitude of your plane compared to the person you are launching at
>>563679941I'm launching it at a small fat german kid
>>563666954It depends if your radar gets bamboozled and starts mistaking a rival missile launch a being the enemy target
>>563680109why?
>>563679898>>Lightning >AliExpress F104. Same limitations, worse platform.It's a better dogfighter than the early MiG-21s lol.
All American jets are overtiered and should be lowered two be steps
>>563680215He stole mein lollipop
>>563680242It's a sky yacht
>>563680375Off the top of my head only 4C could go down to 9.7.
>>563679898Litening and Javelin are a lot of fun for hunting the current bomber spam
THE STOCK GRIND IS MISERABLE AT 13.7 WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>563680994to make you spend moolah dumbass
>>563680994money
>>563681106>>563681164I HAVE 1571 GE I MIGHT FUCKING DO IT THEY WON FUCKING GREEDY FUCKS
>>563680994I had a great time spading the J-11B idk dude it seems like a you problem
>>563681385Yeah man 2 PL-12s is a great time bro
Do they really need to call it Cheyenne II when the original didn't enter service?
>>563681486Literally just wiesel through the enemy line at multipath altitude and sling them at unsuspecting targets
>>563672240I got a talisman for it out of the random box, ground out huge chunk of the chink tree with it
>>563681546Cheyennagain?
>>563673616challenge accepted
With the battlepass/season ending in a week, help a noob out:What exactly gets reset when a season ends? Only pass progress and medals or also stored warbonds?Does a new season start immediately after?How long is a season usually?
>>563682163this is funny.
cactus you lazy bumfix the squadron's description
>>563682696War Bonds carry over, they're regulated by the 3.6k limit. The old shop is available for another week into a new season.
>>563682696You keep warbonds. limit is always 3600 but you can just hold off accepting new ones - shop levels unlock regardlessNew BP starts immediately (12:00 UTC on 22nd April IIRC) so you ear levels in the new BP and not the old one. But the old warbond shop runs parallel to the old one for like a week
>>563682860Oh that makes sense, thanks. I was afraid I'd have to spend them or something, but if stuff below the limit carries over then I'm good. Thanks!
>>563669024
So why is the p59 at 5.3
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>>563684569Comic name?
>>563684569me on the left
why is it taking so long to get a match @5.3 air?
Retarded German faggot hereFinally unlocked the LeKPz M41, which non-stock round should I be going for? Everything that I've read online has been pretty mixed at nearly 50/50 between APDS and HEAT-FS. I'm going to miss point and click nuke rounds.
Retarded German faggot hereFinally unlocked the LeKPz M41, which non-stock round should I be going for? Everything that I've read online has been pretty mixed at nearly 50/50 between APDS and HEAT-FS. I'm going to miss point and click nuke rounds so much.
Is Nuclear Thunder ever coming back?
>>563687769the artist has deleted their x account but its bsd
>>563687769its bsd art from "kimuchi_99" the X account is gone now
Retarded German faggot hereFinally unlocked the LeKPz M41, which non-stock round should I be going for? Everything that I've read online has been pretty mixed at nearly 50/50 between APDS and HEAT-FS. I'm going to miss point and click nuke rounds very much
this is awful
>>563684569Me watching.
Shit dogshit garbage website makes gaijin servers look good in comparison, most influential website of the decade kneels to some discord trannies ddosing it, meanwhile war thunder gets the full anger of the chinese people and it chugs along just fine
IFW???
Retarded German faggot hereFinally unlocked the LeKPz M41, which non-stock round should I be going for? Everything that I've read online has been pretty mixed at nearly 50/50 between APDS and HEAT-FS.I'm going to miss point and click nuke rounds very much
>>563692557yes we are all suffering here
>most influential website of the decade>3>4 4
>>563692557I got a nuke with a non-spaded M41 using just APDS earlier today, it's good. Think of it as a better Puma.
>>563691393shit optics the only negative
>>563688857>>563688941>>563689413>>563692557keeeek
Why does the type 90 have ammo inside slots in the fuel tank? I understand the water tank.. but fuel? wont that just be bad?
>>563696224>le forced diesel chimpout>no.351264325
>>563696346>diesel oooohhhh
>>563666662You got wrong thread for the >previouslyIt should have been>>563430958
>>563691393>>563694941Is the 90B different in any way?
>>563698951no, it's just copyslophas dozer mounting spots but no dozer
F100 stock is probably one of the worst experiences I've ever had in this game. I just can't be bothered to grind it's mods out, I don't care if it's actually a good plane
>>563691393you will explode when hit anywhereits a light tank
Finally taking my R2Y2's into battles and holy shit they are really good. After playing 262's with the shit 108's and g.91's with .50's for a while it's really nice to just tear the shit out of planes with 30mm's that don't need a ton of leading to use. Extremely generous 600 round ammo count too. I was worried about the BR but it's very manageable.
I want to thank the anon last thread who explained the F4's radar to me. I got into a 1v1 with a F4C in my mig21 and I just turned a flew away from him while pulling maneuvers. He fired all of his AIM7s at me and they lost lock almost as soon as they left the rail. Made it a lot easier
in fo wha?
Next sale im going to buy a shiny new premium but I cant decide between the Kfir Canard and the NF-5
>>563707549Kfir sucks and ARB is not worth playing past 10.7
didn't realize there was a free Mosquito in the BPhow is it? I see it has radar AND IR search
it aint wednesday, my dudes
>>563704595just go shoot down B-52's and Tu-95'syou couldn't have had a better time given to you than the past week with all them being retarded and flying straight at bases
I hate flying viggens so much its unrealWhy did the swiggers design such a ugly plane, doesnt help its fucking dogshit ingame too
>Ka-52 pilot committed suicide because he was being cucked by churkas AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA VIKHRTRANNY WHERE ARE YOU?
>>563711121His only mistake was falling for the 3DPD meme.
>>563707754There are better mosquitos in the tech tree but the premium bonuses make up for it
So I'm at 5.3 for GB with the brits with a pretty solid line, would going right to 6.0 utterly fuck me if I don't also grab another option like the FV4005 or the Charioteer?
>>563712763not really, 5.3 and 5.7 are br black holes already so you should have gotten used to constant uptiers. in fact, brits are probably one of the better nations to do this with because of their ammo with good pen and shit post pen. learn ammo placements and you'll be able to dumpster most nations, especially the krauts.
>>563712884I'll make the upgrade and get rid of my old firefly then. I almost always get uptiered against all sorts of crazy shit like you said, but I can still do work with emI do well enough now with all their pen, but any QoL new tanks might have will be worth it.
germ 11.0 is *unbelievable* suffering
Am I the only one that finds it impossible to go back to Air RB now that nuclear escalation is gone?
>>563715109Nah, I'm feeling the same.
morning
>>563716405mörning
>>563714648>T80 UD>T72 TURMS>BMPT>2S38>292>BMP2M>Arenaevery game its just hordes of this shit, its fucking disgusting. the russian team has to actively try and lose and often just holds W into a spawn trap
>>563716507just pissing by ze coffee, officer crabtree?
>>563712763Britain has no real good 6.0-7.3 lineups so you're better off to play 5.3 unless you want to bash a lineup together with 7.0+6.7 so you get the railgun Conway and the ratels until you get to 7.7. Don't bother with the HESH garbage as it will not work 75% of the time when it should and the charioteer is not worth the jump to 6.3 by itself. Stick to your challenger and comet as they still are competitive with their guns and mobility and if you have it the tog or qf ram if you need more reliable full AP rounds with high pen.
>>5637179246.7 is pretty solid if you have the Cent Mk.2
>>563717924I already made the jump with the basic Centurion, but that was largely going to be my plan. anyway. Lots of seemingly nice 6.7 stuff to work off
WTF since when J-10C "early" stopped being "early.They even swapped al-31f to ws-10b.
>>563721576In the latest big update when they gave it 12As iirc
>>563721576its still a fat cunt boat that doesnt turn
Its been almost 2 years grinding a lot of top tier jets on multiple nations, should I go back GRB?
>>563727560Grinding was your first mistake to make.
30m SL AND ALL I GOT IS A FUCKING BOATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
any way to change the enemy plane icons on the J-10C radar? nu-radar looks so shit
Hey, Rickets Boy...
>rough length of the round compared to the space between the breech and the radioI'm not entirely sure this would work
Sure would be nice if the generic UI radar display was color-coded.
>>563729492hehe
>>563730894thanks for feedback gif
>>563730730It's called two piece ammo anon which is why the long 90mm has a longer reload time than the regular one.
>>563716526>>563714648i enjoy it dearly
>>563696346
>>563714648Why would you even play germoid 11.0? All they have at at 11.0 is Puma and some event unobtainiumPlanes are decent though
>>563730894would be cool if we got a frontal view radar like the ground spaa gets
>>563716526>t80udslow af, dies to 1 shot>t72 turmseven worse >bmptlegitimate complaint only if you have 105mm>2S38dies to a single 20mm dart to fuel tank, cant do anything to you frontally>29210s reload, you can literally do 2 shots and it wont reload yet>BMP2Mdies to a single 20mm dart to fuel tanks or missiles>Arenasame as turms
>>563731969nooooo, wheres my OC diesel module image
Website work again?
>>563666662Hello, retard newbie here. Very retarded question. Please kill me if too retarded for thread.How do I do better-ish above rank 6 in Air RB?I hadn't read the OP links yet but I've been through rank 1 to rank 7 in Air RB- I wouldn't say I am good at it but I had a solid grasp until rank 5. F86F40 of the Japan tree is my last well performing aircraft and it's all downhill from there.Please, please teach me how to fly beyond that. I just want to fly the F15 so bad. I've tried sideclimbing, I've tried separating from my team and sticking with my team, I've tried doing dogfights I've tried not doing it, I've tried most of the flying styles in my arsenal but rank 6's F104J, T2, F1, rank 7's F4EJ, F5A, everything is just not flying right for me.It feels like wearing a glove that is too big for my hands. It feels like trying to solder or repair a circuit board with those gloves on. The F4EJ flies and turns pretty well above 700-800kmh range and the F5A is pretty manueverable but I just cannot get any kills. Is it my skills? I have a pretty good KD in my F86F40, I can hold my own in a dogfight, is it something I did wrong? Is it my tactics? But I've tried everything. Please.Please please please I just wanna get better at above BR9. I just want to get good enough that I can one day be able to fly the F15. Please impart some wisdom into my retarded little brainlet fat matter thing that still can't get this right. I CAN do well in Air AB but I cannot stand the progression.Pic for attention. Please help a retard out.
is it normal for your suspension to do this on a perfectly flat paved road
>>563732052Comrade you are hereby awarded a meatgrinder for your sons service
https://warthunder.com/en/news/9998-shop-esports-go-esports-with-the-new-wtcs-2026-season-pack-en>https://warthunder.com/en/news/9998-shop-esports-go-esports-with-the-new-wtcs-2026-season-pack-endamn, I thought these would just be twitch drops, not 8 dollars of bullshit
>>563731156but it's clearly in one piece
>>563732447bait
>>563732447Do you know how a missile works?Do you know how a radar works?Do you know how a radar missile works?
>paki mig-19 to 9.7it's over before it even began
>>563732969Why the fuck wouldn't it go to 9.7, it's a strictly better MiG-19PT (same FM, better missiles, can bring drop tanks for more flexible fuel economy).
>>563732448soviet leaf spring in action
>>563733281Raising the BR hurts the feelings of the Chinese people
>>563732447Just to add to my retarded little post,I know how to notch. I know how to press C. I know how to read radar. I know that at my rank there is no functional RWR.I know dogfight geometry and my game at it is good enough. I know how to read aircraft characteristics but I struggle to translate numerical data into intuition. I know flying high and fast is always good but I always get 5 way fucked by other radar missiles.My F4EJ is fresh bone stock with only the compressor purchased and are researching the new boosters. It does not have radar missiles, only a pair of AIM-9Es.>>563732719I know how a missile works, I've read and watched relevant documents. It isn't that I can't figure out how it works, it's just I can never catch a break in a non 1v1 scenario (and even then it'll be a teammate that comes along and claim the kill, me getting nothing.)I know how a radar works and how to read it, though I have trouble turning data into intuition, but I know how it works roughly. I've done radar training in my F1 and T2. I know how a radar missile works, how notching works, how multipathing works, how to counter it by firing a counterattack radar missile to prevent the sender from zeroing me in all the time and how to pre-chaff and even how to not fly in a straight line right after chaffing.I just have innate difficulty at succeeding in a match. Is it because I am in the east asia server? My only and most successful aircraft is the F86F40 and I can only do about as good as screenshot attached once every few days or so. Any aircraft beyond that is just endless suffering for me, even if I had spaded my F5A it's still struggling to fight in a match and/or struggling to produce any significant stable and positive performance.>>563732607I am actually really fucking bad and retarded and I feel so stupid and useless, please help. I remembered /vg/ being the only helpful place on the internet for retard such as I so I've come to beg.
>>563733459would you lick feet in exchange for tips?
>>563733746Shit man, this post made me realise I've been tasting blood in my mouth this whole time since the last defeat to posting my cry for help.I need to stop getting so caught up in a video game if I can care any less about it.
These packs are very expensive for so little of actual value
>>563734306>cosmetic packs have little valueyea no shit
>>563732969It IS pretty similar to the T-2.
>>563733459Wait until the Yank Phantom goes on sale again and use that to grind out the tree until the F-15
>>563732447>>563733459Have you considered that picking a top contender for shittiest air tree in the game may be influencing your experience somewhat
>grind
>>563735083my goal was the F15J, the F2A and the Gripen. All in all I thought the tree was decent for all the aircraft I wanna fly, but I am near the early jet in American tree and also progressing through Russian, German, and French trees slowly when I felt like it.>>563734868If I am to buy a premium aircraft I woulda just went for the premium F2A, either that or invest into the chink tree. But I am broke as hell.
>>563734306Fuck I want that winter frame, but I'm not paying $8 for it.
>>563734412These cosmetic packs used to be less than half the price in the past at least like 2 or 3 euro
>>563735738inflation((
>>563735738Your punishment for not voting for OrbanRussians are suffering
>>563735738frame tax
>>563732447I'm not going to lie, you may have chosen the worst tree to learn this stuff on>F104JAbsolute suffer bus. You get no flares at 10.3 and no maneuverability to defeat the missiles other ways. The F104s other than the A variant can be rough but the J is in a league of its own>T2Probably the most decent plane at this rank for Japan but it's strange. Supersonic with 9Ps but no flares. You have to get creative. Many players use the rocket pods on it as Ersatz flares. That might help>F1 Same thing as the T2 but higher BR>F4EJThe F4s stock are just terrible. Probably some of the worst stock syndrome I've seen in planes. They'll be bad until you have them most of the way spaded. Probably one of the only instances where I would say base bombing is warranted >F5AAll around good plane and honestly ntb to learn on. The F5C is many wallet warrior's first experience with jet gameplay after all. Its engines are pretty weak and the airframe needs speed to do well. You can take turn fights if you're 1v1 but if you spend too long in it and there are other enemies around, you'll get your cheeks clapped fast since the F5 takes a bit to get up to speedI respect you playing a tree you like though and not resorting to premium planes right awayI hope I've helped a little
>>563732447Around BR7 is when fights really start pushing towards longer ranged "missile thunder" as planes gain access to all aspect IR missiles and look-down radars that make it practical to use SARHs at low altitudes.Planes like the F-4EJ are in a bit of a sour spot since it doesn't have access to pulse doppler radar, and it has rear aspect fox 2s. I sort of skipped over this phase with the US and USSR trees by paypigging for the F-4S and Mig-23ML and then learning air combat with their look-down radars and fox2s.I hate to say it, but the path of least resistance might be to just buckle down and use F4EJ as a base bomber in air RB until you unlock something with a pulse doppler radar. To thwart enemy radar missiles during your approach, start learning the habit to "multipath". Enable your radar altimeter in the settings and configure it so that it turns red at 50m. The effect technically starts at 60m, but it doesn't get good until around 50m. You're looking to thread the needle between ~30-50m altitude. At this altitude your reflection basically causes radar guided missiles to see a point a dozen or so meters below your plane, which can be enough to defeat radar guided missiles from many angles of attack. You might also want to learn how to "pre-flare". By preemptively dispensing ~1-2 flares immediately prior to when an opponent is about to enter optimal fox-2 range, you can spoil their attempts to get a lock and deny them their window to shoot.After dropping your bombs, try to just yeet your AIM-9Ps at whatever you can. Don't put much faith in them. If they get a kill, great. If not, too bad. If you can find an opponent that doesn't have flares then you can fuck them up, but they're all probably already dead. If you see an opponent climb, then try to get a radar lock for the sparrows with radar in ACM mode. The ground really can't be anywhere close to your sight picture though.
>>563738326thank you. So my theory had been mostly correct- F4EJ is just plain insufferable until upgraded, and I gotta really nitpick my engagement until one of two things happen:I get lucky, or I eventually get good enough to 1v2 and not get killed. Perhaps it'll be a good idea to go back to T2/F1 because I'm tired of using my F86 for SL grinds.Thank you.
>>563738670Winning 1v2s is about game sense and your opponents being retarded desuI usually just don't take 1v2s if I'm in an aircraft that can run. If the players you are 1v2ing have a couple of brain cells between them, they can easily stagger their runs at you so you don't have an opportunity to get a firing solution unless you spread your ass to the other guy to do soAnd it's not about YOUR personal skill. Unless you are in some sort of good plane, they have to make a mistake
>>563738659Very practical advices, thank you. I do defeat radar missiles normally but I can't when I am out in the open and when chaff hasn't been unlocked (lol). Base bombing is indeed one of the more useful thing this plane can do but however, rushing bases are plenty dangerous and I think the extra weight make fighting against other planes impractical carrying it.I'll try my best to carry on, though. I think I'm more grasping for camaraderie than anything, but also genuinely baffled by just how bad I perform when I was doing decent in 9.0. >>563739319Make sense, but my toxic trait is that I think I am good enough to take on 1v2s all the time. At BR 11 I don't think running would be much help without terrains desu...
imagine if the f-6c had pl-5 instead of 9p
>>563739547>At BR 11 I don't think running would be much help without terrains desuWell the nice thing at 11.0 is most of the IR missiles you see will not have IRCM so they can be easily flared and the radars you see are usually pretty trashFlying away from an F4 can in many cases be enough to break its lockOr at least make the missile go dumbSo running is still possible I would still play the F4 close to teammates though
It would make the most sense to add south Korean vehicles to the Japanese tree but gaijin would never do that and have probably waited this long to add Korea because of the absolute rage Koreans would have if their vehicles were added to the Japanese treeAnd a separate tech tree for Korean vehicles would be dumb
>>563740393korea for italy when?
>>563739547You shouldn't make any attempts at all attack other planes while carrying the bombs. At most you can attempt to get a fox2 lock in a head-to-head as you fly past. This will be unlikely since your sidewinders have rear aspect seekers, but if the opponent is exceptionally hot then it's not impossible to get front aspect IR locks at close ranges with rear aspect seekers.I also agree with anon that 1v2ing people isn't a practical metric. If the opponents are competent, then 1v2 is the kind of situation where ground attackers can emerge victorious over a fighter.>>563739831>Well the nice thing at 11.0 is most of the IR missiles you see will not have IRCMYou're probably aware of it since you said "most" and not all, but to spell it out for jap anon: Some of the modern ground attackers like the A-10C, Su-25T, and Su-39 have access to advanced IR missiles with infrared counter-countermeasures. Do not carelessly approach them. The russian R-73 is close to unflareable once it gets within ~1km of you, and the american AIM-9M requires an abundance of flares to reliably defeat and the F-4 doesn't carry many countermeasures.
>>563740393Not any dumber than isreal or sweden,
>yet another thinly veiled attempt at begging for foreign vehicles to save crapan
Slow or in denial?Korea's confirmed for the 11th hangar.
>>563740614Sweden made sense because theyve had a domestic military industrial complex for centuries and have plenty of vehicles to pad out a full tree. I agree with Israel though. That was a dumb decision. There's a reason their ground tree is 90% magachs >>563740676China would get North Korean vehicles >>563740747It's a really really dumb idea
>>563740676>omg i fucking love japan!>more foreign vehicles now!
If I use as first spawn a tier 3 plane then tier 2 stuff the points I make using tier 2 go to the total points for the event?
>>563741183Every nation other than the US and Russia need foreign vehicles to pad them out especially in the Cold war and modern tiersJapan is just an extra special case of having a ton of WW2 planes to warrant a separate tree but nothing in the jet age
Am I suppose to stay with the furball in top tier ARB or what?
>>563741610Ideally you want to be the last guy to enter the furball.
>>563741610You want to be the guy above the furball who drops fox3s on peoples heads. Preferably just prior to the furball forming to so that teammates aren't within the danger zone.
>>563741708I see...>>563741937What if my fox3s have a shorter launch range than their fox3s
>>563742294If they were leveraging their superior range, they wouldn't be on the deck and approaching a furball. Those niggers on the deck aren't looking up much and they probably have their radars set to ACM mode. Your missiles should be in the air a few seconds before they get close enough for your nametag to appear.
Reminder that being virgin is the key to good looks and strength cause biologically you need to acquire a mate, meanwhile having sex = seed passed on therefore needs to die to accelerate evolution
not war thunder
>>563740747Do they make dakimakura of K-pop idols?
>>563740747Its already confirmed in the VK LeaksTogether with Nork Vehicles
>launcher defaults minimum how fucking nice >70gb download
I fucking love radarslop so much you guys are liars
>>563744119
Why. THE FUCK. Can't I see missiles on replay?I had AIM-4F miss Tu-95M from 2.5km away, but I cannot fucking see the missile on the replay.
>>563746064It's better than climbslop at least
>>563746519you probably have some filter on or off
I'm looking for a new air tree to play and I'm having trouble choosing between France, Sweden and Israel
>>563746947Nah, they show if I launch replay though the website, but not though the downloaded replays. And website replay doesn't have time markers to jump to.
>mig-29>2 r-27ER>first missile>enemy crashes into ground right before it hits him>second missile>enemy does the same thing>this goes on for 4 matches in a rowwhat the hell is going on?
>>563674095
>>563732001I got the pt16 in a lootbox>>563732052in isolation maybe, but they are all swarming and no amount of fragging seems to thin the spam most games. its an egregiously overperforming BR range for russia, probably moreso than any other in the game. I should add the SUs and kamovs and welfare 2S6s as well
>>563747541chinks are playing rn
>add bear and buff>don't make them the grb nuke planes
>>563747023I hear early air France is pretty miserable so maybe not that one
>>563748510i'm 34 actually still young bitch still kickin
>>563748672What the hell kind of an argument is hit?
>>563748084>kamovs>in 2026keeeeeeeek
>>563748672I have late props in France already I have early jets in Sweden Israel is really the only one of those trees I havent touched because the Sakeen is such dogass that I've avoided doing anything
>>563748964Why would you do something if its not fun?
>>563749059Because in the current year early of any nation is a fraction of overall experience.
>>563747541They are playing right
What happened to the sea harriers?The FRS1 used to be considered really good despite its flight model
>>563748084>kamov4 kill worthy at best even su25t pulls better stats
>>563749634makes 1 kill on average before deaththis defeats the german
>>563746365That‘s good camo. You can hardly tell it‘s a tank
>>563749557did it?
>keep on getting 1st place>still lose because of team incompetence im never getting that challenge done
>>563749160Fair enough I suppose, I'd just buy a premium at that point
>>563732447Keep your speed at about mach1 and avoid staying in the middle of the map. 90% of your kills are against players that don't see you coming or see you too late
are s25l's of any use? Worth taking four s25l's in place of 2 kh25ml's ?
>>563746064They are people who cannot read a search scope and just furball with ACM mode. They would be completely neutered if name tags were disabled
>>563750696well its a good job name tags are in the game
>>563749737>russians get a handcrushing paypigcopter for years but its OK because most are trash with itthis is literally every competitive paypig item (mostly russian) with the sole exception of the BMPT because its so pulverizingly strong it elevates even the most abject shitter
>>563752168>handcrushing
>>563732052>2S38>cant do anything to you frontallyLying faggot
>>563752168>kamovs>handcrushingpick one
>>563752168kek you can tell those faggots never played when it was first in the game
>>563752168>anon still has ptsd from the days when he couldn't mindlessly rush a ka52 with a plane or hold his mouse on the helicopter without any thought about his missiles proximity fusekek
>samefaggingkamovs were op only when they could spawn with s13s at the start
>queue all servers>get shit on constantly>queue US servers only>manage to get more kills and survive until the end of the matchlol
>>563752790dorit walked so that kamovposter could fly at hyperspeed
>>563752279>>563752375>paid access to vikhrsbetter than any slop with hellshit Bsthe ka50 was hilariously OP more than half a decade ago and nothing has changed
>>563753167>ka50>hilariously OPbaby where is your flarak where is your ito where is your adats
>>563753167Better spaas and planes were added since then
>>563753325that doesnt make it less powerful relative to other helis
>>563753167The only OP quality about vikhrs was that you couldn't retardrush it with a plane since you'd eat a vikhr and that its a certified spanish_avenger bully
anyone else still keeping spreadsheets?>only have 47k SL in the bank
>>563666662>play he*i>hide from spaa the entire time>kill 4 planes>prefire atgm>peek>have to dip right away because mach2 missle is otwmhhhh
>>563753452spanish troonvenger
>>563753452>trans on trans violencewhy is war thunder playerbase like this
>>563753529good
>>563753318>just sit in the SPAA cuck chair because you cant rely on your teammates for anything, its balancedfuck you ruspiggies rack up score with their handheld first and second spawns and then swarm the air when they mindlessly overextend and diethis BR range is completely broken
>>563754040>we need spaa to take out a kamovthis is the case for ALL cas excluding helirusherssounds balanced, keep coping
>>563753527May sale is 30%, right?
>>563754521yea
>>563754521But it's a f2p game.
>>563754207the post im replying to is explicitly saying I need to play SPAA you retard>a kamovtry several, plus the paypig/event SU25s/39. plus all the aforementioned bullshit on the ground. fuck yourself for defending this dogshit, 10-11 everything being food for pidors is terrible gameplay
>>563754870low iq. makes sense
>>563754521I'm waiting for the victory day sale and its only 30%!? Fuck me
>>563755005How new?
>>563755037New enough to not see the last vday sale clearly
>>563754870>10-11>food for pidorsoinkplot is 12.3 and you always squeal that you're left out starving there
>>563668875catch my fpv, Stepashka
i am genuinely baffled as to how people regularly die to cas in higher tiersIt takes some awful positioning and spatial awarness to get nailed with a bomb of any sort.
>>563755560I highkey whip those scout drones with my tail in game
>>563754521last years may salewith specific selection of packs afterwards at 50% offexpect to see some packs removed for fomo reasons, but also remember they will come back in less than a month as a GE premium most likely
how many updates back will things go on sale again?it's on when it's the 3rd right?so spearhead?
>>563755431im not your boyfriend faggot abundantly clear in my posts im bitching about german shitboxes being utterly outclassed in that range all the 2A4 alikes need a better dart bare minimum at this point
How do I survive the start of the match in ARB top tier
whats up with them making good looking camos paid nowim noticing
>>563755841God I hope the waifu packs are on sale. Maria was the only one that went on sale before and I want Kate.
>>563756147yes
>>563756248>disgusting digislop>good looking
>>563756576>su-30mk2 added13.3 air will be great to farm but it will become an even bigger black hole>>563756451the chances are highunless they treat them different because of the anime status from the normal ones
>>563756451Kate will go on sale for the 4th of July, Elsa for October 3
>>563748672The Potez and V.B. are all you need
what holiday is tomorrow that can warrant their comback?or just greed?
>>563757047First flight
>>563756173you could be my girlfriend, you already bitch like one
>>563757146huh yeahtrammy first flightbut the AMX A-1?just throwing that in for the sake of it?
>>563757205the entire point of this general is to bitch about the tortuous skinnerbox were all trapped in go be a homo elsewhere
>>563757358what i tell dorit every thread
So why does the Type 89 randomly decide it can't fire ATGMs? I thought it was commander controlled like the CV90 BILL, but it's not. They're not damaged, they just don't launch no matter how many times you hit the button.
>>563756208Notch and crank
noooooooooooo REDDIT complained about the game you know REDDIT the enemy the bad guys we aren't reddit we love sucking slav cock for their janky ass broken fucking video games because they are BASED and 4channy
>>563756671its less bad than the usual esp*rts camosthats what i mean
>>563757240Italian liberation day maybe
>>563757810good pointforgot about the fact that it's italian tree
https://wiki.warthunder.com/recordsfound a cute little page on the wiki
mi28nm aint allat gotta say, its worse than it was pre DIRCM and new spaa and i honestly doubt 8 fnf missiles will do it any good
>>563750123They're individually inferior to kh-25MLs and don't really have much of a place in current game modes. Russian planes mostly have laser designators with limited forward facing fields of view, so laser guided weapons are risky high commitment ordeals. If you are committing to a laser strike, then you want the better 25ML. In both ground RB and air RB, you don't have the luxury of being able to keep making many laser guided passes over targets. Depending on the situation you're usually going to want TV guided missiles/bombs, GPS guided bombs, or rocket pods.The S-25LD is notable on the Su-24 because it can equip them on a double pylon. If they bring back a "nuclear thunder/Air RB EC" style mode, AND if they nerf SPAA to be less godlike at munition interception, then the S-25LD might have a place on the Su-24 as part of a build that maximizes the number of precision guided weapons for engaging armor convoys. Alternatively, if they make the flakrakrads actually need to fucking reload after 2 shots, then spamming all 4 of them at a flakrakrad from long range should probably overwhelm its missile supply and lead to a kill.
>>563758648bs
there's no reason to touch this fucking mig-19 event is therewhy on earth would anyone want this
>>563758619>The biggest caliberShouldn't the PBJ-1H and Mosquito 18 be on thereor does it just not count planes with equal gun calibres?
>>563759216nvm I just noticed it lists the others as ># more...underneath
>>563757758i don't know neither about that reddit website nor sucking cock but you seem deeply knowledgeable about both, now how do you apply that wisdom to war thunder is another mystery to me
>>563758648>>563758895I mean it isn't bad but the DIRCM is very inconsistent so hardly how plebbitors make it up to be, with all the machjesus sams in its br it really requires some good knowledge of said helicopter, Haven't had the chance to try Lmurs but if they are in any way like spikes they wont be all that good and jew apache can carry 16 of them.Its weirdly manevourable compared to mi28n... Most samniggers just spam their missiles like crazy so its best to hug the ground and i assume? angle your belly towards the missiles to have the DIRCM affect them if they are IR though i've died to 9x and irist.With how shit the new sams are you can pretty effectively spray rockets at their spawn if you know how to spot with rocket tracking camera.Picrel is a second game i played with it ever since i got back to this game and i menaged to spawn two mi28nm's - one with full vikhr loadout and other with just khrizantemas along with a ka52 with full vikhr loadout for one airkill at the end.
>>563760897forgot image
>>563760897lemurs are guaranteed kills unlike spikes. you can take lemurs and vikhrs and everything will be so easy and boring
>>563761303How do they differ? Is their flightpath more steep? I've dodged lemurs in my spaa's before by going into hard cover. I see they are ir+iog+gnss. Does that mean they dont blow up when you smoke and that you can launch them by marking a point on the map?I like it easy and boring.
>>563747023Depends if you have USA tree researched.Because if you don't, Jews have a fair choice of both American planes (Best Phantoms, best A-4), and some fun French planes (Super Mystere, Mirage III family).
>>563761654congrats youre smarter than every forum rat spaa cuckold out there. yes indeed going into cover counters lemurs, but they shine so much because of the payload. they go up so some cover wont help. I have seen so many people get packs of kills with 13.0 helis theyre all very simple
>>563756671Digital camo is based imo. I am tired of seeing the trillionth splotchy disruptive pattern camouflage. It would be better if it had an anime girl on it tho.
>>563762060pure fucking sex
animals
today i learned the type10 turret cheeks cant stop a stock abrams heatfs>>563762060at first i was like shut the fuck up retard, but you posed yvonne so ill let it slide
>>563757047SWIP coming next updatefor real this time
>>563756671nta but i just think the blue is really pretty and it goes well with the white ;__;
>>563762060i like chink digi camos
[LowIQ] Regular_DudeWhy did you fire at my UAV?
>>563765231king
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lowIQ raped and leaking again by wartg bullswhy does it always happen
>>563765543is ur mom okay with you talking like this
>>563765543keeeeeeek
>is ur mom okay with you talking like this
>>563765231where you circling me for 5mins straight at the start?that was annoyingi had no more ammo so i drove my truck to b there and didnt notice you whiff your first shot
>>563765231>snipping tool in the endkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
>>563766021>where you circling me for 5mins straight at the start?Damn right i was, even exchanged shots with you at the very beggining for a while.
>>563766251>procesor graficzny
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
>replays changed to only appear after 12 hours to prevent people from investigating cheating))
>>563766251i got pinned by the other 2 dudes and knew i was perma spotted :ci think i only shot your uav once by accident with the sadness truck
>>563766251>>563766634oh right, i liked the ito just leaving the match after failing 5 shots and missing the plane flying up straight
>kingHoly shit are you OneTrueHeliGod?
>>563766956that guy was into sim only iirc
>>563765231>Why did you fire at my UAV?Huh I wonder why a AAA would shoot at something in the air especially something that spots enemies.
what is a diddy aah blud vehicle
>>563766474resident doxxschizos btfo
>>563767231merkava
>>563766634Nah it was with the type 10 mg so i decided to bully you before i knew it was even you.How did you run out of ammo that quickly?>>563767103I saw him in heli ec years back when mi28nm released day one and i wont put my life on that but i think i saw him once or twice in ground rb
>>563767298oh i was out of ammo in the tan sam kaiwhen you killed my radar truck in the webmwith the type 10 i thought i could get you with the ir tracking after you launched but i only got a hiti only shot like 3 or so mags with the mg
>>563766634>i got pinned by the other 2 dudesBet you liked it too.Fag.
>>563767298you've also seen my gameplay you said it reminds you of youalthough you were pretty mediocre in 2023, the webms were still alright for entertainment and inspo>>563769452kek
how is the mirage 2000c? I noticed a flood of jewtube clickbait videos when it was at 12.3 and absolutely nothing since it was moved to 12.7, is it just not worth it now?
>>563770226It's been kind of overshadowed by the premium F/A-18C Early but it's still FAR from the worst 12.7 you can play. The 12.3 event one is straight up broken OP though.
>>563770554>The 12.3 event one is straight up broken OP though.Why?
Daily tip: Don't switch from APHE to HE when engaging open tops. It's unnecessary and only done by bad players that can't aim.
>go to 4chan>open thread>reddit bait
>trying to help new players get better at the game>idiot claims it's "bait"
>>563770952keeeeeeek
Is it bad that the only plane im actually expecting to be good in the upper tiers of Britain is the Australian F/A-18 at 12.3
>>563770791It's the same thing, great FM and Magic 2s and excellent SARHs and all, but without MAW and with slightly fewer CM pops (it's still enough since they all fire one by one) at the same BR as the likes of the MiG-21 Bison, the Kurnass 2000 and the F-4EJ Kai.
>>563770795someone post his statcard
>>563770795He's a diehard British main. Of course he has retarded ideas on how APHE works.
How can the F-5E take so much damage center mass and keep flying?
>>563771561Didn't stop him from writing 80000 posts about how it should and needs to be changed
>>563771576f5c syndromethey overbuffed it in many ways, including more flares than it could historically mount (and that's besides the fact 5c carried zero), far lesser heat signature on engines and a retarded damage modelit's not exclusive to f5e, gaijin just refuses to fix it because f5c sold insanely well
>>563771576it was built by white people
>>563771702His mental deficiency is precisely the reason why he took that position in the first place
>>563771764this is how the resident piggies chimp out
>>563771794Don't forget the FM that's tuned to the results of the Soviet trials rather than the thing's own native manual.
>WT Mobile got SBMMThings are looking grim.
>>563771549
>>563772152eughhhhhh
>>563769452damn bro...im straight
>>563772198>negative in the amx30 supergenuinely unsalvageable retardation
>>563772152>mobile game is designed to squeeze out all the money from the playerbase, without regard for the actual quality of the productNothing new
>>563772208A straight man would not write such a sentence and think it was okay.
>>563772198This man practically only plays top tier (badly) and his mid tiers are mostly unspaded. Why does he seethe so much about APHE? He doesn't even play those BRs
>>563772285I genuinely don't get how you can have something like 10.000 matches in high/top tier tanks (which all pretty much play the same) and still barely break a K/D of 1.
>>563772697low standards
>>563772697I've been playing world of tanks recently and the amount of people clocking north of ~40k battles and having bot tier performance is beyond the roofIt's just something that's inherent to free to play games
>>563772198I feel like the 2A4 (pre-BMPTing) is babbies first "how do get good" vehicle. As in it actually rewards you for playing well. If you're negative in the 2A4 you might as well kill yourself.
>>563772152The fact that there are actual people playing the mobile version is baffling
>>563773096>actual peopleit's just children whose parents won't buy them a laptop and unironic indiansactual people is a bit much
>>563772619Beats me. But anyone that spams so many posts about a single topic can't exactly be right in the head.>>563772818It's not exactly hard to perform better, though, and knowing the maps/having a lot of experience regarding weakspots/target identification is worth so, so much. It's baffling that performance can still be that abysmal with that big an advantage.>>563772937Same for the M1, really. They're excellent vehicles, but positioning/awareness is important.
>>563773206Also people who want to get their second spawn Shermans and Akizukis.
I'm so proud of being above average, bros...
>>563773390that fad has mostly passed thoughno one really gives a shit about these especially since they're not premiumswt mobile playerbase still consists mainly of the two groups mentioned before
>>563771764Somebody was stat checked
>>563749738what no PF does to a missile
>>563749738good dodge
>>563765231
nothing but a hound dog
>>563771764>entire argument about how you can't be good without sacrificing a good chunk of time of your life, which is a decent argument overall given the nature of warthunder>it obviously implies the recipient of this message is good but has no life >contradicts himself at the very end saying that the recipient of the message isn't actually good, instead implying that he's (the sender) just so bad he got shat on by an average/bad playerif you are going to send fanmail, at least make sense
>>563776607I never even killed him I just killed 12 of his guys and died once
>>563776607>expecting a malding boomer to make sense
>>563777373
remember to be the problem
>lion of peshawar already upped in braiiieeeee
>>563776129Kek i remember that one, it made me chimp the fuck out behind my desk hard
>>563769908Looking back at those wembs 90% of them were utter “double kill” dogshit or shitpost material kekCan’t be arsed to even make one these days
>>563778076i am this far away from becoming a problem...
>>563780495did you expect that not to happen?
>>563780495it'll go back down once the event ends
Does Kh-23M have a proxy fuse?
I didn't even realize there was an event going for an air vehicle. Maybe not the best idea to have 2 back-to-back air events.
i am getting really tired of shooting t-80 lfp and getting a driver->autoloader->return oneshot kill also why are all radar missles hitting my heli stationary at 20m while none of my radar missles hit enemy helis ever?no matter which angle
>>563782525plane game