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>>>The Game<<<
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/

>>>News<<<>30/09: Shattered Space is released
>05/08: New update - Bethesda confirming that "exciting things" are coming in the future: https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1947686948799389848
>06/05: New update in Steam beta: https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1919776896578982315
>17/03: Free Lanes and Terran Armada announcement video: https://youtu.be/ScvzSEaUrBs

>>>Resources<<<
>Mods: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/

>>>FAQ<<<
>Q: CK?
>A: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2722710/Starfield_Creation_Kit/
>Q: What happened to .ESL?
>A: .ESM can become light plugins now instead
>Q: What's the deal with NG+(+...)?
>A: Restarts the game with minor changes to the story and world, while preserving your powers and skills. 10 cycles for suit upgrades, 6 cycles for upgrading the starborn ship
>Q: Should I reinstall?
>A: If you are excited about a customizable difficulty, 3D maps, ship decorations, new bounty hunting missions and mechanics, official mod support. Free Lanes update added Cruise mode, more POIs, a new set of collectiables, and more.
>Q: DLC?
>A: Latest came out April 7th
>Q: Free?
>A: Free Lanes is free, Terran Armada and Shattererd Space are included with Premium Edition.

>>>Misc<<<
>/stag/ modlist: https://pastebin.com/VJNgbAzw (embed) - https://rentry.org/stag_mods
>Artbook rips: https://mega.nz/file/TlJSBTwB#GhmrZRoHDAhhei__Bz2zc6GisgB67_vONrAfYQR8lK0
>Character builder: https://nukesdragons.com/starfield/character
>Threadly space music: https://youtu.be/9jK-NcRmVcw

>>>OP template<<<
>https://rentry.org/stag_op_new (will be periodically updated)

Previous Universe: >>563480745
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Taping a fleshlight to Delta's head!
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>>563729597
>not Model G while the Flirty personality is active
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>>563729669
DO NOT the Model G
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>>563729770
Imma do it!
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>>563729597
>starfield does automatron
>option to change delta's voice to female
>inexplicably rounded and thick leg and chasis options with """padding""""
do it todd, remind them of who you are
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>>563729597
Female voice for Delta when? Assaultron Delta replacer when? Assaultron voice and model replacer for Delta when?
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I expect Muria to get Serana levels of obsession
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what's the best background from the standpoint of plausibly being with argos? I get that all of them have reasons they could be there, but leaving an exciting life as a ronin or cyber runner is more of a stretch than others.
>chef
this one feels pretty right, assuming not everyone is just eating chunks, a large operation like that would have a cook so a down on his luck chef would have a job related reason for being there
>combat medic/soldier
veterans need jobs, I would give a slight edge to medic since similar to a cook, an operation like that is going to want one around so you have a more specific reason than just some grunt lugging rocks
>homesteader
your just an honest joe who needed a job, maybe you were homesteading the previous rock that lin was mining before vectera and ran into her there
>explorer
this starts to get into stretch territory but lin's line alludes to the fact you didn't have a ship so it makes sense to join a mining outfit since they move around a lot, plus the skillset actually ties in with the job. This also has the added benefit of explaining why you'd be so gung ho to join constellation
>file not found
I wanted to give this an honorable mention. Like explorer fits best with joining constellation in the initial universe, I feel this one works best with becoming a starborn later since you yourself are an anomaly
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Are the level ranges for the Basic/Calibrated/Refined tier known?
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>>563730337
Doubtful. Serana was popular because she was the only follower in skyrim with actual voicelines and content. Muria isn't quite there. And Seranafag in particular has already latched onto Sarah. I don't think he changes targets within a game
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>>563730337
she's not nearly cute enough and a lot of her lines are pretty bitchy
must be weird for the irl VA who is now seeing pictures of her virtual self wearing lingerie and getting railed tho
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So this place is just a big tease, right?
>scrap metal foundry
Still, quite cool. The scale is huge, and I just worked out the exploration percent goes up by walking into the right area, not looting a thing, so that's nice.
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>>563730840
it's item dependent, but yeah, it's known per item type. for eg you can start seeing advanced eon while the highest a hard target will go is refined or calibrated. inara dot cz slash starfield has the levels.
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>>563730816
Your alternate reality self tells you that before Argos you worked mining for Deimos, and it sucked. Dunno why there's no option to pick that as a background.
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Ah yes the non-lethal DOOM shotgun...
The texture on the armor is so bad I'm just going to store it somewhere and forget it existed. And uninstall this Creation when I Unity hop
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>>563731354
in that case I feel like I might have to give the edge to explorer then, since that doesn't preclude working for a different mining outfit. I get that the alternate universe yous can be completely different, but I think the one where it's just the single you feels better if it's as close to your background as possible
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>>563729597
Do we need this kind of /tesg/ tier cringe in /stag/? I think not.
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>>563729067
>>563727840
>>563727634
>use a cheat mod to enable an achievement you get for not cheating
why do zoomzoomzs do this to themselves? at this point just use steam achievement unlocker
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low effort bait
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>coop mod for starfield
https://old.reddit.com/r/starfieldmods/comments/1smlosp/pulsar_i_made_starfield_coop_actually_work_6_days/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daAdpnRT4DA
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my autistic wife
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>>563734114
>vibe coded
disgusting
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>>563734114
Shitting all over that guy who abandoned the Starfield Together project a few years ago
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>ps5 getting a hotfix
>not hotfix for everyone that fixes everything wrong with muria or the bugged quests
this company is actually a joke
>but the mods would break again!
Bethesda doesn't care. This is a critique of their insane laziness, nothing else.
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>>563735178
Obviously addressing issues that made the PS5 version nearly unplayable was going to take a higher, faster priority, especially considering people were still well into the refund window.
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>>563734560
Yeah, welcome to the new modding scene. Every other mod is going to be vibe coded, and they'll work and you won't even notice.
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I have 7 extra perk points that I don’t know how to spend. What should I do?

I was thinking dialogue options like intimidate, bribery, diplomacy, even pickpocket.
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>>563735576
You don't understand, I MUST complain about any and all AI use (and unconfirmed, potential AI use) even if it improves the quality of the free mods that otherwise wouldn't exist because fewer and fewer people with skill are making free mods these days.
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>>563735868
But there no known fat chicks to impress here
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I hope we get a colony focused DLC that expands on LIST, and maybe a bit on the Trade Authority and Argos. A small story focusing on helping LIST set up a colony on a planet. Similar to raven Rock in Morrowind's Bloodmoon expansion. Get new features like buildable/customzieable robots, space stations for outposts, starship/outpost blueprinting/ More stuff on setting up resource gathering. Add in the cut fuel mechanic as an optional hardcore setting. etc. etc.

That, and a Starborn focused DLC, are like the two things I really want to see for Starfield. As those are the two biggest gaps in the game now that we have stuff for House Va'ruun, and a Colony War follow up.
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>>563735868
B-but muh jobs, how can workers unite if the workers dont have jobs :DD
t. Garl Margs
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>>563735717
guys, please, I hate seeing excess points
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>>563736351
if you don't already know what skills you want next you must not need them very badly, so just dump them into whatever at that point. I do usually try to get the social ones right away since options to complete the challenges for those are more limited
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>>563736143
>I hope we get a colony focused DLC that expands on LIST, and maybe a bit on the Trade Authority and Argos. A small story focusing on helping LIST set up a colony on a planet. Similar to raven Rock in Morrowind's Bloodmoon expansion. Get new features like buildable/customzieable robots, space stations for outposts, starship/outpost blueprinting/ More stuff on setting up resource gathering. Add in the cut fuel mechanic as an optional hardcore setting. etc. etc.
I've been waiting on this basically since launch. It seems like such an obvious setup that I'm annoyed it hasn't happened yet.
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>>563734560
>>563735576
>>563735868
>>563736058
>>563736159
there's no mention of him using AI anywhere other than to translate his post
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>>563736746
That's enough to label him a fascist piece of shit
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>>563736839
literally worse than trump
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>>563735717
paste picture of build so we see what you have already. it's okay to save points until you decide to do something new.
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>Making a gun model for a mod
>About 10k faces
>Check a gun made by Bethesda to match the size and shit for the animations
>20k faces
Well well well, I get some extra budget it seems
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First ranged damage mod I've seen, and it's owned. Damnit.
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>>563741990
>owned
NPCs aren't real. Just take it.
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>>563742054
I was going to post a picture of
>Items Stolen (0)
but I just looked, and it says 6. Oh well. I guess I'm a thief now.
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Trying to work out a small ship build, one hab + cockpit. Not having everything on your ship is kind of nice, it makes you travel to your home base/use city benches.
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>need to convince ships to surrender to rank up deception
>"not a chance, take a look at our weapons asshole"
>level 4 class A shitbox with a three pip laser gun
>I'm flying a stolen ecliptic fighter with lasers, ballistics, and missiles
Is there something else I'm missing? Or is it just a low chance to begin with. I'm tired of getting stuck with a 50k bounty everyone these faggots act tough just to die over some zero wire
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>>563737098
Still can't tell if that big black oval void is his nose or his mouth
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>>563743171
It's quite clearly his mouth.
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Why are all ships expensive as fuck, I want to upgrade the shitty Frontier ship but every ship that's actually an upgrade is 130k credits geez
Is building your own ship cheaper?
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>>563730994
her va has a channel where she started playing the game as a mod of her character, and then once freelanes released she played to recruit herself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g29vfYffgk
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>>563744138
>Is building your own ship cheaper?
usually, yeah
just go board a spacer ship and land at a spaceport, pay the registration fee (usually under 10k credits) and then edit it
you'd probably pay about the same as a new ship on parts and modules though, but at least you have more freedom
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>>563731081
there are a few variations of it. Once where its a variation of the robots kill human workers thing and you have to shut them down at a terminal, one where its a variation of the POI with heatleech eggs around the central spot, and one where a terramorph jumps you at that central spot.
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>>563735563
addressing the issues on PC by now is not acceptable, simply because its far easier and quicker to push out a patch through Steam than it is to go through the console validation process.
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>>563742356
Your level compared to theirs matters too.
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>>563744138
Depends on the parts you use. I'm in the process of making a very large c class ship and I've sunk nearly 200k on it and I'm not done yet.
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>>563742286
>use city benches
You can add all the workbenches you need manually. Taiyo cockpit in particular has loads of free space you could use.
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how is roleplayers alternate start? I kind of want to start as a pedestrian on neon and have to grind up enough credits for a ship
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I want to have a threesome with Muria and Lin. Sarah can watch.
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I'm going to give Andreja blue eyes and a different haircut and you can't stop me
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>>563746096
Gergel Ebanex lets you do that, but we're still waiting on it and SAF to get updated first
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That's the first time I've seen one of these ships as a POI wtf
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dead game
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>>563748551
Any ship that lands gets marked as a POI
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https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/16576
it's up
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Any space suit mods that look vaguely like medieval armor?
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>>563754743
yeah
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>>563754324
>Removed
That was fast? What was it?
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>>563754874
thanks dude
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>>563754941
probably remove black npcs or something
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is nexus down? I can't download anything
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>>563754941
astral ui
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Is there a mod or console command to reset my character to level 1? I jumped through the Unity and want to do a "fresh" run.
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>>563755170
in all seriousness I don't think so, I saw a mod pack with some bronze age suits, but nothing medieval
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>>563755291
What's wrong with that
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>>563745573
Yeah I know, what I'm saying is that after a run or two where your ship has everything it's fun to have to actually get around and engage with the cities instead.

I still haven't dressed up the hab part, and cockpit still needs some work but i'm fairly satisfied with how this one is shaping up.
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>>563755548
you could use player.remove perk to remove all those, but I don't think player.setlevel allows you to go backwards so everything would still be super scaled up
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>>563755872
idk I had just opened it and read the title, maybe that wasn't what the file actually was
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>>563755291
>telling lies on the internet
Don't know what mod it was, but it wasn't that
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Just did new game+ for the first time. Is there a way to upgrade the Starborn ship? It feels supremely shite even compared to the default Frontier
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>>563756056
Correct, it was Astral U1
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>>563756614
>Is there a way to upgrade the Starborn ship?
By jumping through the Unity again :^)
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>>563756614
Probably some mod, but like the starborn suits, you'd be better off using a normal ship.
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I KNOW it says "or crew" but I'm just double checking because >Bethesda, this perk only works if I have no companions, no robots, no assigned crew, just me right?
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>>563757101
You can have crew assigned to your ship but not following you (Hey you come with me dialogue)
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>>563757101
>for each spacesuit and helmet
This description is fucking weird
Can I have more that one of each equipped? Can I realistically get around without either? Am I cucked if I'm wearing a single piece spacesuit? What is even the reasoning behind it?
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>>563756724
Based on all the bans Nexus has be unleashing lately, somebody probably tried to reupload the original mod with embedded malware.
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So how did Neon came to be? Obviously they didn't orbital drop the hole thing in one go. It had to be build in stages. How the fuck would that happen?
inb4 It just works
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>>563758192
it do really be just working
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>>563758192
you land a construction ship on the water and start constructing
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>>563758192
Probably started as a resource platform mining something valuable which drew in more people
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>>563758192
Neon started off as a simple fishing industry. They later found out the oil from the fish (Chasmbass) had hallucinogenic properties and decided to build a pleasure city on the fishing platform where the main economy is mostly selling fish and party drugs to tourists.
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>>563758192
>Obviously they didn't orbital drop the hole thing in one go
The terran armada has drilling platforms with grav drives that you encounter both on land and in orbit of a comparable size.
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>>563733172
For real. Kind of stupid to think you deserve achievements if you play with mods.
>"Durr I play with Real Fuel and Cost of Spacing and actually it makes the game harder than vanilla"
If Todd wanted the game to play like that, he would have made the game play like that. You are tainting Todd's perfect creation, and yet you feel entitled to his approval in the form of achievements? Sickening.
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>>563759581
>If Todd wanted the game to play like that, he would have made the game play like that
he did, but removed it because of casual shitters like you
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>>563755909
>>563742286
very nice build anon
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>>563758192
For a project like Neon you would want to arrive with enough resources to set up a basic fishing platform and a refinery to process materials so you can potentially expand the outpost. Then you harvest raw materials from nearby planets and haul them to Volii Alpha for refinement (grav drives make this a lot easier).
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Rabbit's Real Lights and NaturaLUT really make New Atlantis feel like a real city at night, damn. Bethesda really needs to stop shoving their god damn fake lights everywhere.
>>563758192
The weight alone of something that size makes it an physical impossibility to drop from orbit, so the explanation could be that they built it in situ slowly. As another anon pointed out, Neon started as a fishing planet so it stands to reason they'd lower some ships and make a big ass hulk out of them like the Asians do. Second, there's one NPC that says that there is land on the planet, just not much of it, so they could've also started there. Lastly, we don't know how deep the planet is, we can assume it's nightmarishly deep with Cthulhu at the bottom but we just don't know.
The real answer is that Bethesda probably didn't think about it and just did what they usually do and go with rule of cool
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>>563730873
>And Seranafag in particular has already latched onto Sarah
Wait really?
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>>563748551
nice shot btw
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>>563760102
>"No, no you don't understand, Todd the Godd Howard - notorious Diablo 4 addict who thinks ultrastreamlined live service slop is Peak Game Design - really wanted the game to be an obtuse immersive sim with docking fees and fuel management!"
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>>563739073
Yeah the vanilla guns look pretty good up close
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Wait… wait a damn minute… you’re telling me there’s an achievement specifically for sparing Caruso??? Good thing I had a save before the votes and I can steal the ballots, but what the hell, Todd.
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>>563761314
yes
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>>563761314
>who thinks ultrastreamlined live service slop is Peak Game Design

No that would be the normies
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>>563759153
>>563759339
>>563759438
It's a water planet in a perpetual storm. Who would see that and think: "Yes, fishery innit"
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What do I get with the remaining 300 creation credits
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>>563761441
Correction: I do NOT have a save. Shit.
Fuck you, Todd. Now I’m stuck with this piss poor ending.
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>>563761638
Eh there are worse venture attempts IRL
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>>563761840
You people should have 10-20 full saves minimum for Bethesda games.
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>>563761840
how do you fuck up so bad. I save in a new slot every time
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>>563761638
If you install the Deadly Hazards mod, Gagarin becomes unlivable because of the high surface temperatures, while Porrima II becomes a death trap because of the high surface pressure. Meanwhile Akila has 1.5x Earth gravity which would make human life impossible. Bethesda didn't really put any thought into how livable and realistic the settlements are.

Imagine if New Homestead and Cydonia were just ruined husks you could visit because the inhabitants all left when more Earth like planets were discovered around other stars. That would've been cool.
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>>563761827
A job
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>>563761840
>piss poor ending
please explain, in detail, how you think spending a few years being nice to people means you get to walk away from an entire life of being a wandering murderrapist
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>>563759581
I've never cared about cheevos and never will.

But what i don't get is why go thru the effort of cheating the system if you're gonna cheat just give yourself the cheevo with the unlocker so you can unfuck your brain from whatever zoomie achievement hunter mind virus and just play the game.

That's what I'd do if I was a zoomie addicted to getting 100% cheevoments.

>>563761473
>>563761626
iirc the original plan was to have survival mechanics that matter but they got scrapped. like helium is now just a leftover mechanic

i wish they'd have made a survival difficulty where you have all those limitations like the original plan was. the post launch support of this game is more or less fallout 76, where it takes them years to make anything after the initial launch. maybe they'll wake up in 5 more years and start pumping out frequent content once they make the amazon show
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>>563762020
Because I didn’t think a side quest would need a save file, this is LITERALLY the only missable achievement in ALL bethesda games tied to a side quest! This shit is usually devoted to main quests.
>>563762435
No, I’m saying it’s piss-poor because it feels the most just, but the game is essentially telling me I picked the wrong ending.
But what do I know, my character’s a murderer and a thief as well, I shouldn’t have voted to kill Caruso because it would’ve been 50/50 with exoneration.
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>>563761367
Yeah I'm figuring out how to increase the details without just throwing random edge loops everywhere, I can probably add stuff like screw heads without resorting to normal maps. We'll see how it works out, doesn't mean I have to match their poly count but I want to make it look good.
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>>563761626
>spent an hour clearing out a ship
>repaired broken components
>had apparently never done any space combat prior
This is such a "shit that never happened" post.
Theres no repairing broken components in the base game, and if it takes you a fucking hour to clear out a single ship you shouldn't be playing videogames
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who makes the better emissary, barrett or sarah?
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>>563763659
I've only had Andreja as the Emissary, but I would think that it makes the most sense for it to be Barrett considering his exposure to the Artifacts and the fact that he can get a Starborn power
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>>563763505
Don't you need to own the ship before being allowed to use the decorate pannel too?
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>>563763659
Sarah, the emissary's nagging, methods, and savior complex just makes so much sense when it's her.
>why didn't you just tell us what we needed to know instead of cryptically threatening us
>b-because...
woman moment
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Oh my god… it doesn’t matter. I missed the achievement with destroying the robot using magnets. I have to skip for this shit.
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>>563764315
someone who forces themselves to platinum games they don't like should always be disregarded
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>>563764315
>NEWS: rando has opinion
>ai sticker in the corner
i mean, lolmaroflao honestly.
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>>563764132
When you have ADHD conflicting with your OCD
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>>563764445
>lolmaroflao
>laughing out loud, my ass really on fire, like all ouches
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>>563764315
Used to be we'd say you need 50 hours in the game to have a valid opinion. This guy has a platinum and we still think he's talking out his ass... Never change, stag
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>>563765012
>This guy has a platinum
prove it
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>>563765012
he's a snoy so he's subhuman by default
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>>563765012
>we
You are a brownie who posts AI slop and replies to itself and seethes about Toddkino.

I am a white man who enjoys Toddkino. We are not the same.
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>>563765012
Trophy hunters are subhuman.
Theres a difference between playing a game earnestly and being the kind of soulless autist who rushes through games just to get a sticker for his console profile then never touches it again
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>>563765261
why did he keep playing
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>the NMS shill is back
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>>563765515
haha no that's not me, I'm delighted that you're still thinking about me when I had completely forgotten our entire conversation up until now though :)
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>>563765012
>50
More like 300-500
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>>563765072
Why? So you can move the goalposts again? lmao
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>>563765259
this, but by extension all console people really are not "gamers", they are normie trash. Especially anyone that platinums games is saying "I am a conformist that measures my life based on criteria that others set for me". Starfield has many issues and mucho dev stupidity and arrogance behind it, but its not the type of game you play for achievements.
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>>563766663
>they are normie trash
Its stuff like this that makes 4chan opinions kind of objectively wrong and terrible. Its all coming from a shitty place
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>>563766805
silence, consoloid
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>Everyone defending this fucking game
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>>563765261
Remember Anons Bethesda made Starfield boring on purpose. The fact he said its the most boring game he's ever played means Bethesda did a good job
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>>563766419
what's funnier than you still being here after getting raped by the thread, is you voluntarily submit this information for me
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Companion when
Wife when
Pregnancy mods when
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>>563767482
I don't wear sandals.
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Stop fucking feeding it. Report it.
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>>563767497
>y-you got totally pwned!
>that's why I'm still infuriated by you and jumping at shadows thinking they're you the next day while you completely forgot about me!
haha okay sweetie
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>>563767660
>Negative opinions on this game are trolls
Okay then.
Anyway, I though this thread would explode in righteous vindication once the Sonybros got a hold of it? Now we hate Sonybros because they don't like the game? kek. Ya'll are worse than Trump
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>>563764315
Platinuming the game in 50 hours means he's skipping a lot of things
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>>563767687
you were literally raped by the thread and you VOLUNTEERED this information to me instead of just hiding behind the anonymity.

you are one broken buck
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>>563767660
>Don't respond to trolls
>Make stupid memes to respond to trolls instead
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I like space :^)
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Does Captain Myeong say anything if you have her action figure?
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>>563768296
Stop that!
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Over a year later and Bethesda still hasn't fixed this. They're just really fucking lazy. I actually do like the game and am playing obsessively right now, but there's a ton of shit like this that just feels lazy and underdone, and it's a lot worse because I remember it from back when I first played it and it's still a problem. I talked to some provisioner at a random moon colony, and I asked him one question and he told me how he really liked this camp, how he had always traveled and he usually went from one to the next every few months but he thought he might make this one home. I asked him the second question, they always have "buy something, first question, second question" and he starts talking about how he has always lived at this camp and never gone anywhere else. I was on a lifeless moon and I talked to some researcher and he started talking about the wildlife. I'll see a military camp and then like 800 meters away is a huge crimson fleet base. I can straight up land on that base's landing pad and they don't even react.

I actually generally like the setting, I love this sort of lower tier sci fi and I've played the game probably 30ish hours this week alone, but I really wish Bethesda did a better job with the technicals and paid more attention to the small stuff. Put some more exclusivity constraints on the proc gen to help make the world feel more designed and less random. Individually I'm sure everyone thought they were low impact and wouldn't bother anything but they add up.
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>>563768083
is there an echo in here?
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>>563768612
Yeah and fuck you too
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>>563768601
NNNNGHHHHHHHHH keep going you little rapeslut i'm close
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oh great they're back too
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>>563768803
lol
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>>563768601
Yes. es...es...es...es...
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But all in all I do really like it. I wish it were bigger and less "video game" i.e. only ever having one bar and being able to just walk up to the literal governor and shit like that, I always want these games to be more of a sim and Todd wants dungeon action games I guess. But I've just been on an extended tour of Sol with Sarah, RPing that this is our extended training tour as she teaches me to survey planets, how to fight and fly and so on, and it's a really great atmosphere. On low g moons I can boost pack away from Sarah so fast that I basically never see her again until I fast travel, they should work on their companion system, but she feels much more "full" than Skyrim companions when we're in some old factory or mine and she has a bunch of different comments for everything. I don't know yet if she's this game's Serana and all the others are more flat or if they're all like that, I never went past Mars in my first time trying to play it.
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>>563768486
>>563769179
youre a breath of fresh air anon. thanks for actually talking about the game
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>>563742286
cute
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>>563768486
>Put some more exclusivity constraints on the proc gen to help make the world feel more designed and less random.
I kinda wonder if the game would benefit from having the POIs be placed deterministically rather than randomly, similar to something like Minecraft (same world seed) where if two people went to the exact same location on different machines, they'd see the same POIs.
However that might make it harder to add new ones, either with a mod or an update.

Also I kinda wish they added truly procedurally generated POIs rather than just picking one of the handcrafted ones. Some WFC rooms or something to add a bit of extra variety.
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>>563769179
I always make a point of exploring every planet I land on, but I don't think I've done the full tour and explored every single one in a solar system, not even in Sol. But yeah the game is a slow burn, really made for autistic boomers like me and not so much for the general audience, the jank doesn't help it either.
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>>563762109
>New Homestead and Cydonia were just ruined husks
They kinda feel that way anyway.
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In 2009 Obsidian programmed Black Jack, Roulette, and Slots into New Vegas
In 2023 Bethesda put Black Jack , Roulette, and Slots into their game but as pure decoration
Red Dead Redemption 2 managed it. The game is already rated M. There is no fucking excuse
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>>563762109
>because the inhabitants all left when more Earth like planets were discovered around other stars
One complaint I've always had about the setting, it makes zero sense that anybody is forming these little settler colonies on planets and moons that don't even have breathable air when Jemison is almost entirely uninhabited. Even if you're this far frontier type that wants to be left alone, there are entire continents with a population of zero, and there are many planets like this. Bethesda wanted to treat planets like Skyrim cities and not actual planets, so you get stuff like the late colonists having to work in Paradiso instead of just settling somewhere else on the entire empty planet.
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>>563769930
thats what i did at launch. im pretty sure i did 1 solar system 100% and then never again

it helped convince me the systems at launch, needed lots of work
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>>563771723
The Paradiso thing kind of makes sense to me. I see the complaint a lot, and I guess I get why it might seem silly to others, but if I owned a luxury resort with more-or-les exclusive ownership of an entire paradise planet... I would not feel like sharing that shit either?

Like the whole idea is the untarnished natural beauty of the planet with a little oasis of civilization and relaxation at its heart. As soon as you let colonists start living on the far side of the planet, developing and industrializing, you've lost the entire concept. Now you're just operating a resort on a colony world. The whole leisure world charm point is gone. Irreparable brand damage.
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>>563771723
>virtually instantaneous travel across the entire galaxy is possible
people living off in fuck knows where makes perfect sense, if they've got ships
not a lot of parked ships tho
bethesda also could've done a better job saying that being out in the middle of nowhere is lucrative, if it even is
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>>563772658
While that is true, it's also a problem of scale, planets are fucking huge. Humanity hasn't recovered even to the numbers we have currently (I think they mention it somewhere in the game) and the devastating and horrible Colony War was like 30k deaths or some low number like that. So while I'm not saying all of humanity has to live together, sure you can fuck off to other planets to start your own thing, there's basically no real advantage to living alone in a 5x5 little metal cube in a hellish planet, you'd still want to go for Earth-like ones like Ursa Major II like >>563771723 said and leaving companies and corporations and whatnot to make mining and labs wherever they want because 0 regulations.
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>>563772658
>you've lost the entire concept
Not really. Nobody is going to care that some other settlement exists on the other side of the planet. This already exists as you can find all sorts of industrial and research whatever's on the same planet. It would be like saying a resort in Florida loses appeal because somebody opened one in Turkey.

>>563773063
>people living off in fuck knows where makes perfect sense
Not the same thing. Living off on some Earth-like planet, sure. Living on Jemison's airless, foodless, waterless moon when there's an entire unsettled planet literally right there? No, that's asinine.
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Any recommendations on what I should spend my 1000 creation credits on, after some research I've decided on trackers alliance and McClarence outfitters but I'm open to anything that is achievement friendly
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>>563773454
I like the one that gives spacers unique outfits.
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>kill enemies with negotiator (heavy weapon)
>it counts towards demolitions challenge but not heavy weapons challenge
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>>563773454
fuck you for enabling paid mods, if in 20 years all mods become soulless slop you have yourself to blame
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>>563774272
>if
*when
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>>563774272
i doubt gaming will even be recognizable 20 years from now.
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>>563773454
McClarence Outfitters has lost some of its raison d'être with the Free Lanes update allowing us to roll legendary modifiers with credits and x-tech. I mean, it's still cool to be able to swap them out of gear you find instead of relying on RNGesus (or save scumming), but we have other options now. If it's all you can afford after Tracker's Alliance it's probably still worth it, but of the Kinggath mods Watchtower is definitely the better choice imo.
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>>563773596
I'm on a tight budget so I'm looking for content or something that changes systems

>>563774272
They came with my premium upgrade, 90% of mods are free, I have to pay for the achievement friendly stuff :(
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>>563771723
sol system is entirery UC jurisdiction so they will fuck you over if you don't play their game. the whole space being explorable and FTL being free, magical, solved tech means people can just pop in and out so the distance between 2 stars and the distance to the next continent is equal.
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>>563774272
Those 1000 credits are free, anon
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>>563775230
FTL is not free in lore, just mechanically for the player (without mods anyway - Real Fuel is a great mod). Like Lin makes a big deal about the Vectera gig buying them enough Helium-3 to travel without worry.
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>>563774986
>something that changes systems
Real Fuel - Immersive Exploration and The Space Economy are pretty good systems overhauls that are achievement friendly if you buy them as Creations, but they're also kind of free on Nexus and Baka Achievement Enabler exists ("kind of" as in The Space Economy is actually a combination of Cost of Spacing and Cost of Living with some extra features).
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>>563775524
>Real Fuel is a great mod
How well does it work with the latest update?
I was thinking about picking up the creation version with my remaining 300 free credits (sadly, i'm on console).
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>>563775524
helium isnt hard to mine or produce so it basically is free. probably not to a consumer but to an enterprise, it's just another running cost.



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