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#6809 - SUMMer! Edition

Previous: >>564193362

>Simulators
Automated:
●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html
●Master Duel (Multi-plat): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850
Manual:
●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.com
Tag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.
Genesys Duels: MR5, TCG, Custom Rules: No Links/Pend/EMZ/Pend Zones

>Links
Rulebook: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/
Wiki: https://yugipedia.com
Probability Calculator: https://yugioh.fyi
Stock Market: https://yugiohprices.com
Database: https://www.db.yugioh-card.com
Misc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.com
Blog:
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/
Alt Format:
https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/

>Banlists
TCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2026-02-02/ (Feb 2/Next List: TBA)
OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2488 (April 1/Next List: July 1)

>Decklists
OCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocg
TCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-decks

>News
JP: https://yugioh-starlight.com
EN: https://ygorganization.com

>Upcoming Sets
OCG:
●Chaos Origin (Apr 25)
●REVOLUTION BOOSTER -Toon Witchcraft (May 30)
●World Premiere Pack 2026 (Jun 27)
●Limited Pack GX: Ra Yellow (Made to Order, July)
●Beyond the Brave (July 18)
●Utility Pack (Aug 8)
●Deluxe Duel Set - Sky Striker (Late Aug)

TCG:
●Blazing Dominion (May 8)
●Battle of Legends: Glorious Gallery (Jun 5)
●Chaos Origin (Jul 3)
●Legendary Arc V Decks (Aug 6)

>Events
●/dng/ Emergency Revival Series 2 (May 2, 2000 UTC):
TBA
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Oh nice, Blazing Dominion in 2 weeks? Based.
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Blzd news next week?
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Everyone apparently hates ass Ripper, do you think she's next on the chopping block for getting banned?
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>>564372838
Chess stream?
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>>564373160
No you dumb nigger, stop asking about the chess stuff, that's for Chaos Origins.
Blazing Dominion is going to have the second wave of GMX trash.

I don't know why the fuck they revealed the chess TCG exclusive so far ahead of schedule, keeps confusing everyone into thinking it's in BD.
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>Used to religiously play this game for 20 years
>Now can't even be bothered to read the new cards
>Zero motivation to play
Been watching tons of Edison though. It's so much fun.
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Are you guys looking forward to Dominus Spark getting short printed?
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>Clown Clan low rarity
Immensely based.
>Now called Clown Crew though
Immensely cringe.

>>564373965
Shortprints don't happen in mainsets. It is a secret rare though and the cat is already out of the bag that it's good so it'll be expensive either way.
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>>564374014
I'm amazed they didn't call them a Krew.
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>>564373965
She deserves it, she’s the hottest Dominus
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I really can't get excited for Blazing Dominion without a banlist. It's long since time we just nuked every JUHU into irrelevancy. I'm so tired of this format.
I don't care if KT is already the best deck, I don't want to see Dracotail, K9 and Yummy ever again. Let's make way for decks like Doom-Z, Elfnote, Artmage, Predaplant and Rokket...then we nuke KT next list and then Yugioh is saved.
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Decks for this feel? No Sorafag shit.
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Ban these -
Izuna
Caeser (I love D/D, this card is aids outside of the deck and I'm tired of seeing it, it is what it is)
Rose Whip
Yummy Way/Snatchy
Arthalion
Droll
Lancea
Shifter
Fuwalos (Other 2 can stay, the other 2 are fine and balanced, Fuwalos is aids)
Ass Blassum & No Joy (only if Fuwalos gets killed)
CbTG

All other handtraps are fine. Imperm, Veiler, Nib, the other Ghost Girls, all totally fine.

Limit these -
Razen
Stake your Soul
Because fuck VS.

Unban these -
>Block Dragon
>Fiber Jar
>Fishborg Blaster
>Agido
>Kekbek
>Phoenixian Cluster Amaryllis
>SKDSV
>Kiitkallos
>Agarpain
>Elpy
>Electrumite
>Isolde
>Goblin
>Mermaid
>Link Decoder
>White Binder
>Linkross
>Auroradon
>Verte
>Simorgh
>Splash Mage
>Spright Elf
>SHS Scarecrow
>Union Carrier
>Savage Dragon
>Bahamut Shark
>Heavy Storm
>OSS
>Ultimate Offering

Unlimit these -
Misc
Chundra
A Case for K9
Bonfire
Chaos Space
Infernity Launcher
Sekka's Light
Slash Draw
Naturia Sacred Tree
Sharvara


Yugioh is now (almost) saved.
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>>564375576
>no zenmaity
kys jerome
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>>564375576
Also make Harmonia a secret and pre-emptively ban it before Blazing Dominion even comes out for maximum aura because cards like that are a mistake.
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It's crazy how both Son and Maze are always posting at the same time what are the odds of that
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>>564375675
Why?
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>>564376164
Turn 0 double pop and a 2500 body on board.
Why wouldn't it be? Bystials did less and were hated and 2 of them are still limited even now.
Druiswurm is infinitely worse than Harmonia and is at 1 lmao.

Now every synchro deck just gets this random ass pop 2 that basically can't be countered that also puts itself on board, like it doesn't even have the courtesy of destroying itself to activate its effect. I don't know why we're acting like cards like this are good for the game.
And if you play a fusion, xyz or link deck well tough shit there is no equivalence, and I don't even want their to be an equivalence, that shit is the sort of power creep we do not need in the game, more lame ass staple turn 0 shit. Fuck no, I can't stand Harmonia already and we don't even have it yet.
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>>564376164
As a general rule of thumb you should ignore that unplayer's opinions. He's not particularly subtle so you can basically just ignore it if it's some avatarfag wordswordswords whining about Maliss hits or other inane shit.
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>unplayer just spewing out what his youtubers say
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>>564376545
Refer to >>564376596. He's literally just getting all his opinion from "competitive" online personalities. Nigga doesn't play the game.
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>>564376545
Ah gotcha.
I'll keep that in mind from now on
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>>564375576
I don’t want sprelf unbanned unless they errata it to be non generic
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>>564376596
All the youtubers I watch have the opposite opinion of me.
>Heckin' wholesome Dracotail should never be hit
>Turn 0 good
>Fuwalos is based and it SHOULD resolve
>Ash only now needs to be banned specifically because it stops my Fuwalos, not because of the negative stuff it was doing before Fuwalos was even a thing
>VS is le based
>We should hit random Sky Striker cards instead of killing Yummy
>We should hit Branded instead of killing Dracotail
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you can't just heckin' ban Arthalion, the deck will be dead if you do that! Oh but hitting White Binder who is the lifeblood of Malice is totally fine

The only thing in my post that mimics the yugituber opinion is Izuna ban and Caeser and they're right about those so I'm not going to disagree just to be contrarian. K9 can be entirely unhit if they just ban izuna and it's the most elegant way of dealing with that archetype.
Caeser is getting hit not just to protect Fiendsmith, but rather because Unchained is getting new support and that can and does already make Caeser and I'm so fucking tired of seeing that shit on end boards, same way I was tired of seeing Baronne and Apo all the time.
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>Maze is the shitter crying about Ash
oh lol
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>>564376940
What if they errata caeser instead of banning it?
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>>564376734
Not him but you need to remember the one time he tried to prove he totally plays the game to "own" a hater he just dueled himself proving he fabricated the argument. Or the time he was commenting on a YCS stream crying why someone didn't pull off such an "obvious strategy" ignoring a blatantly well known lock that was in play. He doesn't play. Unironically Soundwave, Mieru and Sora probably know more since they're the sorry side that drop money into this game.
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>I copy+pasted a Yugituber banlist but I added Maliss cards in the unban section and Fuwalos/Arthalion in the ban section
wow...
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>>564377047
They won't though so it's not worth considering.
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With all due respect, you shouldn't be playing a deck that dies to fuwalos
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For me it's target the Benghalancer summoned off its own effect with Ragnaraika Skeletal Soldier so you can banish your Benghalancer, fizzle your Skeletal Soldier and lock yourself out of the Regulus in your hand.
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I don't care what celebs say. Free Kitkallos.
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>>564377237
Correct. She should come back.
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I would simply skillfully play under the Fuwalos, Purulia and Meowls.
Turned on my Thrust and Talents for no draws, even.
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Inherent Summon negates, amirite.
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>>564377336
Yeah but you die to lancea and bystial (you technically can play around bystial but that combo will die to any 2 handtraps hand)
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>>564377529
>Bystials
:^)
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Condensed list of high impact things that should come back to shake up the game in an interesting way
>OSS
>Electrumite
>Block Dragon
>Verte
>Bahamut Shark
>Kitkat
>Mermaid
And Misc specifically to 3.

Holy shit that would be peak... so fucking peak...
Instead they'll unlimit something fucking lame that doesn't do shit like ultimate offering to 1, like who the fuck even cares? Unban things which will have an immediate impact and give a power boost to several decks instead of shit that doesn't even matter that shouldn't even be on the banlist in the first place.
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>>564377529
Toon BE will stay in hand so I don't know why you think Bystials are a good counter.
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>>564377471
Wonder how good a remotely generic boss that negates an inherent summon would be as opposed to random various shit you have to go out of your way to make/play
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>>564377682
>OSS
Doesn't this make snake eye become the best deck again?
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Is he still replying to himself?
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free my nigga mind master he dindu and he's at 1 point in genesys and he isnt doing anything even there
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>>564377682
>>Electrumite
Pendulums are so powercrept. Electrumite coming back won't do anything as seen with her being free in the OCG.
>>Block Dragon
Do Magnets even need it?
>>Bahamut Shark
Ryzeal doesn't really care that much.
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>>564377637
Setting up that early will require you to play dugares
>>564377723
Every good toon combo will have DM discarding BE. I don't know why you are pretending that isn't the case
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>>564375525
Literally punk or frightfur
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>>564377913
>implying you need Dugares to set it up
You can quite literally perform a search for it off of Funny Dark Rabbit or Toon World because of the banish resetting the OPT meaning you get 2 searches alone
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>>564378068
But don't you get fucked by Lancea then?
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>>564377801
Nothing listed would make anything rise to the top. They're the best unbans and yet they still wouldn't do anything other than improve a few decks which begs the question as to why they're all still hit.

That's the problem with our banlists, they keep things hit for way too long. Most of the shit that gets hit could come back after a year and natural powercreep will have already rendered those hits useless anyway.
>>564377885
So why leave them banned? All that happens if they come back is the decks that do play them get better and you may see more people being more inclined to play something else because they're no longer butchered.
Nobody will play a pend deck here because why the fuck would they without Electrumite? As you said pends aren't doing anything with it.
>Do Magnets even need it?
It's not a question of need, it just shouldn't be banned anymore. Things should only be banned if they actively ruin the game. Block Dragon is still strong but it isn't ruining any games by it being legal. None of the cards listed are.
Like I understand keeping turn skips banned, nobody wants VFD or S0 back, but why is something like Electrumite still banned long after Orcust, Salamangreat, Sky Striker and Thunder dragons got back all their cards? Why are we still worrying about the 5th strongest TOSS deck? Throw pendulum niggers a bone so they can at least pretend that their decks aren't shit if they have Electrumite legal.
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>>564378136
If they Lancea you they can't Bystial you?
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when are we even getting the banlist anyway? before or after blazing dumpster fire?
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>>564378068
Yeah, 1 of them is to setup the trap. Feel free to combo off with 1 extra search without dugares
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>>564378456
Probably May or Summer.
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>>564378507
? Are you missing something? You can just make Dugares AFTER you use one of your searches on Toon Bookmark into Illusionist into Mind Scan to look at their hand
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>>564378350
So Toons are just fucked either way then is what you're getting at?
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Pragmata archetype when?
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>>564378664
You can still set up an endboard even if you get Lancea'd? You just can't easily loop the non-OPTs as easily and you can't dodge Imperm/Veiler sans Comic Cat? I'm really not sure what about this is confusing you
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>>564378350
if they lancea you ur turn is over
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"It's over I lost out on ONE of my free activations of my non-OPT cards I am going to fucking kill myself"
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>>564378598
Yeah, that is why I said that combo die a hand with 2+ handtraps because dugares is an extra choke point. You dodge bystial with that combo but if your opponent has 2 handtraps then you are fucked
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considering the entire archetype relies on them, yeah
what are you ending on? comic cat set 1 pass?
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>>564379072
You know Mind Scan looks at your opponent's ENTIRE hand right
Like you can just not play into some handtraps? Determine which one is the bigger threat to call and play around the other? "Oh they have Bystial and X, better not play into the Bystials by discarding the Toon BE, or set up Dark Box to dodge it."
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>>564379090
Comic Cat, Toon Terror, Mind Scan, le generic endboardEDslop?
I don't understand why we have some retard trying to downplay the new Toon cards by "BUT WHAT IF YOU GET MINORLY INCONVENIENCED IN A WAY THAT MARGINALLY INCONVENIENCES THE 1 CARD COMBO (you still end on multiple interruptions btw)!"
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>>564379434
Well maybe you're like just up playing it.
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>>564379496
>Well maybe you're like just up playing it
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>>564379614
I understood him. Sounds like a skill issue on your part.
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>>564379614
How does that not make sense?
Are you just being retarded now?
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>>564379434
in a realistic scenario, you are not getting the edslop if you get lancea'd
you are only getting mind scan if you hard draw the guy
your actual board will be in most cases comic cat set 1 pass
>B-BUT BRO WHAT IF YOU GOT ALL LE COMBO PIECES IN HAND ANYWAY
eat my ass
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>>564379729
You've literally been arguing like a slow moron getting confused over every single step on how you're meant to set up Mind Scan early in the combo so I'm not sure why you're accusing anyone of "just being retarded"
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>>564379614
You are definitely on the left side of the median, aren't you?
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>>564379837
>you are only getting mind scan if you hard draw the guy
Why do we have the dumbest fucking morons here
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https://challonge.com/dngers2
https://challonge.com/dngers2
https://challonge.com/dngers2
saturday tournament on may 2nd.
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>he's now resorted to samefagging after failing to understand being slowly told how to set up your Mind Scan
Man
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>>564379915
No you're just high on your own farts.
The deck dies to Lancea or Bystials.
Ending on just Mind Scan isn't really good enough
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>>564379228
Yeah, you saw 2 handtraps, call one of them, then "play around" the other one into a KWAB board. Nice board lmao
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>>564380183
>he thinks you're just ending on Mind Scan
>he thinks you can't loop under Lancea
>he thinks the deck is dying under fucking dd crow
Where do we keep finding these retards man
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has /dng/ finally realized past the heckin' FTK thats going to be killed right away, Toon is objectively just an okay deck. It doesn't produce spectacular boards and its schtick of Mind Scan is pretty humble besides fucking over VS
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>>564380498
Wholesome
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>>564380728
>besides fucking over VS
That's incredibly based though. VS should be fucked over for being such a homosexual deck.
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>>564380352
Gonna need you to think really slowly and hard on how many starters your opponent has as you keep arguing on how many handtraps they have. Try to think really hard on this, I know this isn't your strong suit but you're really gonna have to try for some basic mathematics about 5 card hand+a draw for turn, and how many starters they'd have in comparison to handtraps
Also, you know this deck can set up Dragoon with the only Bystial target being a Comic Cat or Funny Dark Rabbit or something right? Really not sure why you think this deck is this hyperfragile combo deck that needs every single Funny Dark Rabbit to go through
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>>564380728
>killed right away
>ocg
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Mimighoul snake anytime now
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>>564380728
It is not as bad like you say but it is actually more susceptible to handtraps than most people think. The best point about toon is the unholy non-engine line of the deck
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>>564380728
Oh my god this retard thinks people are only worried about the shitty ass WARLOCK FTK that explains way too much lol
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I feel like I'm missing something. Did the new Unchained support ever get announced? Because it seems like they just went for the Witchcrafter and Toon stuff and then forgot to announce any of the Unchained stuff.
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No one is making arcana force deck with the hanged man? :(
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Starting to think the Toon downplayers are only "semi-pretending" to be retarded so they can screencap their posts and go "UMMM DNG SAID TOON WAS LE BAD? ALWAYS LE WRONG!" when to the surprise of no one it's tiered
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>>564381083
Candelato is 3-of
The Hanged Man is entirely optional
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>>564381117
Can't you be accused of doing the opposite though?
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I don't think about toons at all.
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>>564381223
Nah, his stupidity is 100% real
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>>564381171
How about the goddess card?
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>>564381223
Guy that's arguing for Toons losing to DD Crow: Erm, how do we know YOU'RE not the one doing that?
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>>564381252
What about troons?
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Remember the golden eggwich card?
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>>564381341
Well?
Care to answer the question
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>>564381079
It's next month.
>>564381406
Probably because you're arguing entirely in bad faith, hence "Toons lose to DD Crow"
Still haven't seen a refutation for the line in which you just set up Dragoon off Toon DM for the "BUT WHAT IF THEY HAVE BYSTIAL AND ANOTHER HANDTRAP"
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>>564381382
its win more shit like doll hammer
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>>564381813
Well you've just admitted that toons can't play through 2 hand traps.
Which means they're not as good as you make them out to be
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>>564382014
You can literally set Dragoon off Toon DM super early, before Nib even but this would presume you're arguing in good faith and not doing "muh le epic contrarian /dng/ so I can screencap my posts when i'm wrong"
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>>564382154
Then you just Impulse the Gaze or again just use Lancea
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You can also tell this guy is trolling on the account of arguing for fucking Bystials and not Droll given that the latter would at least necessitate opening engine and Dark Illusionist to stop
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>>564382283
The Impulse that got Mind Scanned?
>uh I actually opened 3 handtraps
Oh, so you only have at best 2-3 starters depending on what you draw? So even the cope endboard outputs enough interaction given perfect handknowledge? Especially including the fact that several of the top decks need to reveal cards in hand to activate their power effects in their first place?
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>>564382314
The point is that Toons aren't as good as you're implying
Like who cares if you can do all this stuff if you can get stopped relatively easily
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Yeah, I'm thinking I would now like some more Clear support, Konami.
I want to see some more attribute hate folded into the archetype too. There's a bunch of "Attribute" cards in Fujiwara's deck that do things like that, but they're pretty fucking shit. The ideas there though, just have them always treated as Clear cards so they're searchable and obviously buff the shit out of them, including pic related.
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>>564382469
>>uh I actually opened 3 handtraps
Why act like that's impossible.
Also what's stopping the Mind Scan from getting Ogre'd
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>>564382473
The point is that you're very obviously retarded, hence why you dropped the "BUT WHAT IF THEY BYSTIAL THE TOON BEWD" in favor of "BUT WHAT IF THEY BYSTIAL A DARK FUNNY RABBIT YOU RESOLVED TWICE (this ends the turn for some reason)"
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>>564382575
>>564382469
>Oh, so you only have at best 2-3 starters depending on what you draw? So even the cope endboard outputs enough interaction given perfect handknowledge?
Does this retard have any sort of fucking reading comprehension?
>but what if they have ghost ogre
The Ghost Ogre you can literally see they have? Uh damn if only we had some way to summon a Toon Dark Magician who could resolve its effect twice then translate into Dragoon or something
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>>564380904
I will give you a chance to think about why both nip and chink players aren't running dragoon in their extra deck
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>>564382489
Fujiwara's remaining backlog for visual reference.
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>>564382630
I'm not the one going on about how toons are an unstoppable tier 0 threat just because they can bring out dragoon or see your hand or stop 1 card from said hand.
I'm not even calling the deck shit man I'm just saying that you're overhyping it whether maliciously or otherwise
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>>564382792
>even the most suboptimal of Toon lists can effortlessly chew through handtraps and still end on a copeboard (against a smaller hand)
Might wanna think about the logical conclusion of that
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>>564382801
What does his deck need to be playable in today’s standard?
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Guy arguing that no really Toons die to DD Crow because uhhh what if they banish a Funny Dark Rabbit (not even the Toon BEWD when it was already established how early Toons can set up Mind Scan) while everyone else is actively bitching about how broken the Toon cards is totally not being malicious or anything haha
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>>564383004
I gave you the time to think, not for you to immediately start daydreaming about how you are the better player than the majority of people who tried out the deck
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>>564382801
>Trigger-like
>Quick-like
I wish people would stop using these gay and retarded Upperdeck terms.
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But why is the Dimension Different?
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>look up the Japanese response on twitter
>a bunch of posts on both Top and New either calling it broken and/or bitching about it
Fascinating. Curious as to how only on /dng/ we have a retard making the most bad faith arguments and how uhhhh dd crow on dark funny rabbit kills the deck you guys
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>Gets better legacy support than both Marik and Bakura.
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>>564383685
Would you like to post them?
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>he ran to twitter instead of booting up his pc and see for himself why dragoon is not an option
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>>564383061
By todays standards? A lot. Probably too much for it to ever happen.
I'd just be happy to have it cleaned up and made a bit more consistent.
The archetype is pretty barebones and has 1 win condition and 1 only and that's Clear Vicious Knight and to be honest I'm fine with that.
If we got Clear Sacrifice that would help the deck a lot in terms of getting him out on the board and the destruction protection is nice too.

Apart from that, the deck could do with a better normal summon (seriously we don't even have the basics like the normal summon that searches) and some extenders. No good normal summon, 0 extenders. I mean seriously the deck is lacking a lot.

>>564383489
Saiou has so much to work with here. A stark comparison vs Fujiwara here >>564382801.
And he still has a bunch of other Major Arcana that was never shown at all. The world is his oyster, Arcana Force has a never ending supply of cards that can be made for it since it's based on Tarot, even outside of the 78 cards in a Tarot deck.
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>>564383942
Do you have any more?
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>>564383909
>I want you to think on the Japanese and Chinese players think
>here's the Japanese players thoughts on Toons because wow everyone but you thinks its broken (who mysteriously is seriously arguing bystial on funny dark rabbit kills the deck rofl)
>N-NOT LIKE THAT?!
Again, see what I mean by this retard's argument being entirely in bad faith
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>2 negates and 1 counter trap?!?!! KYAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE SAVE ME KONAMI
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>>564384050
Sure. There's a fucking swarm of these posts lol
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>>564384020
I hope the hermit, the high priestess, death, judgment, and justice are good. My wish is the star is the fusion of E-Neos and Za Warudo.
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>>564384152
"Actually this seems pretty good given it gives 0 draws under Fuwa or Maxx C"
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>>564384242
Nah that'll do.
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>toon = maliss now
kek
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>>564384242
>3 posts from the same guy
>1 compared it to maliss which jobbed to ryzeal
>1 guy was complaining about toon
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>>564384480
Surely they can't job as hard as Maliss.
Right?
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https://x.com/search?q=%22%E3%83%88%E3%82%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%22&src=typed_query
Feel free to look up the Japanese response yourself, since this guy is still trying to downplay this lmao
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>>564384563
>1 compared it to maliss which jobbed to ryzeal
I'm sure the Japanese deeply know about Maliss's YCS performance in the TCG and aren't referring to its OCG (and presumably MD) performance when making the comparison.
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how long until they create a mulcharmy just for returning from banished?
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do you think the next tcg list is another nothingburger or they'll finally address the meta?
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>I know what I'll do to convince them. I'll get opinions from the smartest players in the world; Japanese people, posting on Twitter!
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Bro's not even trying to convince you that the new Toon cards are bad m'kay anymore? He just looks at you like this.
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>>564384824
Rahu to 1
Razen to 2
Have a nice day
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Your verdicts on this card now?
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>>564384901
>>564382792
>I will give you a chance to think about why both nip and chink players aren't running dragoon in their extra deck
I see he's suddenly stopped caring about the Japanese playerbase's opinions lol
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>>564384759
Ryzeal was raping maliss in the OCG in the later half of 2024 (before the banlist)
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>>564384984
Pretty nice for going second decks.
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>>564385065
And how'd that end up panning out for Maliss in the longterm in the OCG format?
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>>564385045
R E T A R D
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>>564384984
nice tcg secret
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>>564384984
My opinion of the card is skewed because I've somehow only gone against players that are able to draw 10 cards and still end up losing.
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>>564385240
>actually there's many retards arguing that toons are bad m'kay?
Alarming.
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>>564384314
For me? I can hardly wait for the supremely beautiful and chaotically destructive Tower card.
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>>564385475
Ah shit I forgot about this. Same.
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Which season 3 cards would you like to get printed in the inevitable Obelisk Blue Limited Pack for next year?
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>>564381986
more like shartmage
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Who cares what japs say? They're so uptight they'd stop breathing if they made it a law.
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>>564383659
because its not the same
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>>564383767
bakura support next time please konami
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Judai's season 4 backlog.
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Toons will be shit because /dng/ hyped them up. It is written.
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>>564375576
>unban Fiber Jar and Ishizu cancer
>Fuwalos ban
>Nib is fine
Fuck off.
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>>564385619
Was Johan always that ripped or did Yubel make him start lifting when they took over his body?
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>>564388137
How the fuck are you concerned about Fiber Jar in year 2022+4?
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>>564387423
Some of them could use a buff or two, some of them should be locked in Jaden.dek, some of them could use an additional effect with an Elemental HERO's name (being in one category doesn't exclude them from another).
Code Change should just never be printed. It would only be used in degenerate strategies.
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>>564388463
It's too slow for normal plays, it hurts modern Flip decks' strategies, it would only find use in the most insufferable decks imaginable.
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>>564387852
Didn't they win a no banlist tournament or something?
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>>564383324
Should have had an effect that lets you bring it back by putting another Nova back in the Extra Deck. I mean, let's be real, no wants to keep Red Nova on the field.
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>>564388137
>unban Fiber Jar and Ishizu cancer
Fiber Jar is a complete non issue.
All the cards in unbanned are to 1. 1 Kelbek and Agido are fine. All the Ishizu cards are fine at 1. It's a good number for them to stay at.
>Fuwalos ban
Yeah, and? Card is aids.
>Nib is fine
Correct.
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>>564389298
Fiber Jar can't hurt anything because it does absolutely nothing to a modern deck.
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>>564390558
>Drawing because your opponent is emptying their entire Extra Deck and keep summoning from the Deck is pure aids.
>A card resets the entire game, a card that punishes decks that can't summon a monster negate in less than 5 summons and the cards that hard carried a tier 0 deck are fine.
Your opinions are all shit and you should be ashamed of it.
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>>564390941
Let's be fucking real for a second. Not even you believe that. No one would care for whether a card they believe does nothing gets unbanned or not.
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>>564391226
Yes drawing 2/3 cards AND forcing the opponent to make a half-board at the same time is AIDS
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>>564391226
>Drawing because your opponent is emptying their entire Extra Deck and keep summoning from the Deck is pure aids.
Why yes, I do in fact find Maxx C to be aids!
>A card resets the entire game
Damn that's crazy. What's this doing to any modern deck? It's far more likely to hurt the person using it than the opponent lol.
>a card that punishes decks that can't summon a monster negate in less than 5 summons
But you've just been crying about decks that summon a lot in that same post. What happened? Nibiru is a far more fair punishment to summoning a lot than drawing half your deck. Fuck off, retard.
>and the cards that hard carried a tier 0 deck are fine.
They most certainly are. We had them at 1 for a while and they were doing barely anything.
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>guy that thinks Ash is broken vs guy that thinks Nib is broken
They havin' an actual tard-off
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Being scared of fiber jar reminds me of the people who were saying yata can never come back
So dumb
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>>564391618
Might as well cry for Guard Dog and Whirlwind Weasel to be banned too at this point since FLIP effects are so easy to activate
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>Ash is in the game
>Games go like this (and it is still like this even all these years after Ash has been around)
>"Normal summon, activate effect, response?"
>Ash
>Set, pass
Damn, what an incredible game that card just facilitated. I'm sure it's that players fault that his deck just couldn't push through a single negate, now the opponent uses his starter and you don't have Ash and you lose.
Truly riveting gameplay. Why don't you like this???

Any card that pushes for games to end in a similar way to that example I just gave should be given considerable thought on whether they should be kept around or not because that's no different than the same gameplay floodgates facilitate.
Handtraps should not be turn skipping anybody. It's boring, it's cringe. They should be making the opponent put up a weaker board, not no board at all.

Honestly, handtraps in general are the most boring part about the game.
>Going second with handtraps
>Goal is to negate all your opponents shit so they can't play
Cringe
>Going first with handtraps
>Now you make a big board and then you surprise the guy that's already facing an uphill battle trying to out your board by bolstering it with a bunch of handtraps
Also cringe.

We've had this same boring ass handtrap dominated game for so long. Every time a handtrap interaction takes place it's the most dull part of the game. Undeniably. Nobody is clapping at you for Ashing their starter and making them pass on nothing. That's a miserable fucking turn right there.
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>>564393282
>british faggot getting iq checked by ash in 2026
El oh el
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>>564393282
Except literally any competent not even tiered deck has played through one negate in forever. News flash retard if your deck dies to one negate it also autodies going second or also Imperm/Veiler given your example of "dying to one negate" being the Normal Summon
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>>564393671
Even ext ryzeal dies to a single veiler if you don't open extender
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Anyone still bitching about Ash or Nib is just bitching about playing ygo in general.
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>>564393282
Clearly if you have zero extenders or interrupts in your hand and you consistently draw 2+ bricks you're not playing a good deck.
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>>564393906
That basically applies to almost every deck's 1 card combo that isn't Circularing or having two effects in its way into two must negates or whatever
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>>564393459
I'm not getting checked by anything, I don't play. I observe.

I am, however, creating my own glorious version of the game so I can play again. Since I own my cards I am the ultimate arbiter of what goes and what doesn't, not Konami or anybody else. I can fix their mistakes. Etch out new rules. These are the sort of things even sims cannot hope to mirror.
Clear monsters in my game? They're not Dark attribute, they have no attribute, as it should have been.
Black Rose Dragon missing timing (making Bramble Rose infinitely more shit than it should have been)? Not on my watch.
Cyberdark Wurm is also treated as a Cyberdark in the graveyard, as it should have been. So retarded and unnecessary that it can't be used in the fusion summon for Cyberdarkness Dragon.
I've made it so you can run 3 Light Water Dragon and the OG Water Dragon in the same deck, because why would anybody want to play a Bonding deck without Water Dragon? That's like playing a Blue-Eyes/Red-Eyes deck without those being present. Ridiculous. And Light WD is too good to not be played as a 3-of so you'd have to sacrifice the OG WD if you want to play them.
S-Force Justify needing 3 material? No, I don't think so. I decree it to be 2, so shall it be done.
No banlist. Why would I need one when I'm the one creating the decks? No side deck. No need to build every deck full of staples. No need for any deck to have generic handtraps.
Unburdened by the restrictions of the TCG, I can take any and all silly restrictions and transmute them however I see fit like the grand alchemist that I am

I'll breathe life into this Yugioh RPG world of my dreams

>>564393671
This is the most easily debunked argument that people have been parroting for years.
>Um, actually, any deck can play through Ash
Do I have to grab your retarded head and force you to look at YCS winning players saying that they lost this round and that round because they got hit with a singular Ash because they didn't open an extender?
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>>564394201
>Do I have to grab your retarded head and force you to look at YCS winning players saying that they lost this round and that round because they got hit with a singular Ash because they didn't open an extender?
Wow now replace Ash with Imperm/Veiler, wow it's functionally identical except Imperm/Veiler isn't HOPT and fucks over decks with monsters that have 2 on field effects you want to resolve
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>wordwordwords niggerbabble no one cares about opinion downstream from yugitubers have i mentioned i'm an unplaying faggot?
Thank you Maze, I think you've made it abundantly clear every time you've posted.
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Ash has been turn skipping people since it was created. Doesn't provide any fun gameplay, it either skips a turn or does nothing and yet it's mandatory in every deck.
How boring is that? We just gonna play Ash for all this games life, is that it?
What happened to banning staples? I remember when we used to do that. But no we can't ban handtraps because... BECAUSE WE JUST FUCKING CAN'T OKAY???
You HAVE to put these 15 handtraps in every deck you make so you can have the best chance at turn skipping your opponent. Truly incredible gameplay...

Yaaaaaawn.
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Your branded fusion WILL NOT resolve. Sorry not sorry!
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>>564394714
You're bitching about ygo being ygo. Go away.
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how long till we get a card that says "if this card is looked at by your opponent by their card effect" to jumpscare all the hand peekers
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Mulchammies should resolve actually
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>>564391618
Think critically for a moment. You open engine only against Fiber Jar turbo. They do their combo line and set Fiber Jar as well as their means to flip it.

You start playing into the board. They have to preemptively quick flip it before you activate removal. If they let I:P hit the field, it's already too late; if they chain the quick flip it's banished before it can activate. Fiber Jar resolves. You now have 5 cards to deal with an empty board.
How are you losing in this position?
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>>564394896
>Stimulating the Dragon
>If this card in your hand is revealed by your opponent's card effect, Special Summon one monster from your Deck or GY, ignoring its summoning conditions.
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>>564395252
>I:P
Meant S:P obviously.
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>>564391729
>Why yes, I do in fact find Maxx C to be aids!
Except we're not talking about Maxx C, we're talking about a massively nerfed version of Maxx C.
>What's this doing to any modern deck?
Only the most degenerate stalling possible.
>It's far more likely to hurt the person using it than the opponent lol.
You clearly do not believe that or you wouldn't have even thought about bringing it back.
>lol
And you're seething that people can see through you.
>But you've just been crying about decks that summon a lot in that same post.
Completely different problems: Fuwalos DISCOURAGES the two strongest forms of Special Summoning, Nibiru PUNISHES not summoning strong monsters fast enough. One hurts proportionally one of the strongest type of combo plays, the other hurts the weaker ones exclusively and a lot more.
>They most certainly are
>t. Ishizu Tear player
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>>564395252
>If they let you win, you'll win.
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As for Nibiru. I love Nibiru. Quite possibly the greatest most well designed handtrap (maybe even the only of its kind) that we've ever had. It gives you 5 whole summons to do something about it, and I don't just mean putting up a negate. You can set up some extension in those 5 summons so that after you get Nib'd you can continue doing something, you may not build as strong a board as you would have if you weren't nibbed but how is that a problem? That's what it's supposed to do.
It's the only handtrap I actually like.

So in summary
>Nibiru
>5 summons to do what you need to, you can do what you like, be greedy, play conservative if you suspect the nib, your choice
>You can normal summon a card, grab an extender and then play on saving that extender for after the nib hits.

>Ash
>Kills you before you even get a chance to play by just nuking your starter
That's it. Nothing interesting about it. It's the most boring card imaginable.
>"I just want to play the game can I just search this ca-"
>"NO"

Someone needs to fucking lynch this nightmarish little gremlin bitch already. And Fuwalos which is also a turn skip for most decks.
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>>564395426
>>564395681
Again, there are already turn skip FLIP monsters that see zero play, why would Fiber Jar be any different?
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>>564395681
Yes, playing Fiber Jar is letting your opponent win. Outing your own board and ensuring your opponent has 5 cards in hand does exactly that.
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>>564395879
This but unironically.
And Fiber Jar isn't a turn skip. You give your opponent 5 new cards and he's going to end you on the spot.
Guard Dog is much more likely to win for you than Fiber Jar. Fiber Jar is a complete nothing burger. Can't believe we still have people who are scared of it.
I hope it comes back just to laugh when it does literally nothing and sees 0 play.
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>>564395426
>>What's this doing to any modern deck?
>Only the most degenerate stalling possible.
Oh, yeah, and shit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHMQvzorWY0
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Most one for one handtraps suck balls actually, they're only ever good if they're really trading 2/3+ for 1s or via handtrapspam which is an exceptionally mediocre playstyle given that most of them are -1s don't pop the card in question (or negate in case of Ghost Ogre) and every deck that's Tier 10 or higher's extension game will always be better than most le -1 handtrap spam where each handtrap you use you have to quietly cope what starter you have (or don't have) will beat their copeboard or handcraps they have
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Fuwalos should have been either summon from deck or summon from extra deck.
Not both.
The fact that it is both is why it has to go. They have to go back. Simple as.
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>Ash
>turnskip
Pure, undiluted shitter cope
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>>564395879
>there are already turn skip FLIP monsters that see zero play
Name 10.
>>564395940
>>564396039
Except you're not just outing your own board: You're returning all your resources and non-HOPT card back into your Deck, and restore your hand and if you use it on your opponent's turn, you waste their Normal Summon and all their HOPT cards activated so far. Also no banished cards return. Yes these apply for both players but you can build around it. And, again, again, if any of you truly believed that it is not good, you wouldn't care about it enough to spew all this bullshit.
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Imperm/Veiler is even more conducive to handtrapspam until the first player passes given that it's not HOPT making the argument about "muh handtrapspam" even more retarded
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>>564396929
>And, again, again, if any of you truly believed that it is not good, you wouldn't care about it enough to spew all this bullshit.
I like how it looks and I like it's name. It's a nostalgic card and it does nothing and for that I want it back, not because I want it to concoct some epic sekrit broken deck.
Cry and project all you want, you're being a retard. The card won't do shit.
We've seen a ton of no banlist tournaments, where's all the decks playing Fiber Jar?
Strange that none are playing it if it's as strong as you claim (it isn't).
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>only the guy arguing about how broken fiber jar is is giving Maze's wordvomit any attention beyond "lol shitter" because he's the only one that matches his tard
lmao
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Hold up, if I'm playing an hyper combo deck that charmies are supposed to counter, what am I supposed to be scared of them drawing?
>1 for 1 handtraps are weak and come too late to stop me
>Droll would turn off the charmies
>Starters and extenders would be HOPT regardless
>Other high power handtraps like Nibiru should be negated mid combo regardless
What are they gonna do, side in Illusion Gate + Super Poly + Sphere Mode?
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>>564395775
Not that Ash is well designed, but how is a handtrap that punishes decks that can't put at least 1 monster negate by the 5th summon, and/or can rebuild their field after a non-destructive board wipe fair. When it came out it basically punished you for not playing meta decks and I wouldn't say the situation has changed all that much since then.
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>>564397206
>We've seen a ton of no banlist tournaments, where's all the decks playing Fiber Jar?
NTA, but that's a shitty argument.
Maliss isn't topping no-banlist tournaments either, doesn't mean we need them back.
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>>564396192
You posted an 8 year old video that not only relies on not only on banned draw spells to function but also guarantees that your opponent sees their hand traps to stop you dead.
>>564396929
Which deck is burning through all its HOPTs to out one set monster?
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>>564397772
Endless handtrapspam and nibperm
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>>564380041
I'm considering joining, but I have some questions as a person who's never played with others in an "official" setting outside of master duel
>what is the prerelease cardpool? I know what a cardpool is, but I don't know what cards fall under "prerelease"
>what sim? I only have MD and EDOPro downloaded, and the challonge page only says yugioh
>I don't know what segoc is, but I'm assuming it means the difference in rules between TCG and OCG, is this correct?
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>>564397784
Because it gives you 5 whole summons to solve the issue. That's a lot of freedom.
Ash has the potential to fuck you up before you can do anything about it. The solution to Ash is to hope you drew into extenders.
Harmonia is more designed worse than Nib too. Harmonia can just wait till you put 2 monsters on the field and then pop both and summon itself and it doesn't even give you a fucking token either, you're just left with nothing.
Nib is like the only decently designed handtrap. Not perfect but better than the rest.
>>564397903
>Maliss isn't topping no-banlist tournaments either
It is though lol, it didn't just top them, it won one not long ago.
>doesn't mean we need them back.
We do.
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>>564384984
Not good enough to make up for the downsides of going 2nd I feel. It's still just a +0 even if it's a mulligan for your hand. You likely won't draw more than 5-6 cards so it's actually just a pseudo pot of prosperity going 2nd most of the time (which is an insane card going 1st, but going 2nd it can only do so much).
Being able to play around ash won't even matter outside of very specific scenarios.

Overall this is just ok.
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fiber jar isn't banned because its broken
its in the same tier as dogshit cards like self destruct button/last turn/victory dragon
its only banned because it makes tournaments worse
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Good to see that, as always, /dng/ has the shittiest opinions possible.
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>>564398708
/dng/ said and then it's just one retard (that nobody even likes or tolerates mind you)
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>>564398651
If your tournament record is 0-x you've got bigger issues than Fiber Jar.
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>>564398651
>its only banned because it makes tournaments worse
Self Destruct Button, Last Turn and Victory Dragon can all be used to cheese wins in tournaments.
Fiber Jar has zero tournament relevancy.
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'Member when the fight used to take place on the board? 'Member when we used to summon monsters to face the opponents monsters?
Now it's all decided by handcraps.

How dull.
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>>564399196
fiber jar only exist to be as annoying as possible like question
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>>564385360
Ummm sex
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Abloobloobloo every deck is the same with the same nonengine, also i TRANSHATE archetypal turn 0s and more powerful handtraps that lock you in exchange which would naturally restrict it into fewer decks that can and would make use of them, and the former quite literally using engine vs engine :(
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Jewsha Shit said Fuwalos is in a good spot right now but will become problematic if Konami goes all in on turn 0 so I, /dng/, will insist that Fuwalos needs to be banned this very instant and should return when everything plays turn zero because it's powercrept.
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>DID YOU KNOW THAT JOSHUA SCHMI-
I don't care
>but he th-
Nobody cares.
>he sa-
Don't.
>but
Care.
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yugioh is saved
you're welcome
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Hear me out.
Delete all/most handtraps
New rule, 10 special summon limit per turn.
(....Admittedly, the most annoying part of this is keeping track of it.)
No more generic negates, negates can be put onto archetypal boss monsters that require archetypal monsters to make.

Why 10 special summons? Because a lot of decks are built around spamming special summons, it's the nature of the game so the number has to be high enough to allow that but not high enough where you can just climb into and shit out an entire board of high impact interaction that accounts for every card your opponent has.

We cut out the need for handtraps by lowering the power of the end boards, you now get to play into boards, you can include more extenders into your deck and board interacting cards due to the absence of handtraps.
Game goes back to board based interaction.

Think about it logically and then tell me why this would/wouldn't be a good idea.
The handtrap experiment has gone on for long enough and it's proven time and time again to be a failure in game design. It's time to go back to our roots.
And that means that we don't get to do everything in 1 turn. Yeah dude your synchron deck isn't going to be able to summon out 6 different flavours of Quasar in 1 turn. Crazy, I know.

I can't stress this enough, the battle needs to (for the most part) take place on the board. Board vs board. You play into my board then I counter. Defensive plays when needed, not just full throttle offense in all situations.
It can be done, we have the technology.
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>summon limit
Stopped reading
Go play another TCG (not like you even play this one to begin with lol)
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>>564401253
shut the fuck up nigger
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>>564401181
>no branded hits
kys
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>>564400903
Jobshua still mogs any /dng/chudcel.
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>>564401490
>>564401613
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564401806
kill yourself faggot shill
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Summon limit is retarded and annoying to keep track, stop bringing this up.
If you want a dumb power check you may as well play an alternate format with only 3 monster zones.
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>>564402054
>stop bringing this up.
I don't think I will, actually.
It being annoying to keep track of isn't a good enough argument for me to drop it.
I find it both annoying and dull that handtraps are so prevalent. I find it annoying and downright dogshit gameplay that without a summon limit we have to deal with boards that have more interactions than we have cards in our hand.
I find it annoying that gameplay has devolved into being over in 1 turn.

So it being annoying to you to have a summon limit isn't enough to convince me that it's a bad idea when the game we currently have is by all metrics more annoying than the idea I proposed which would fix all of those problems.
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The cool thing is Maze likes to immediately frontload his WORDSWORDSWORDS with retarded opinions so you don't actually have to read any of it past a glance at the first sentence
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>>564401278
Cute brothers.
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>Blazing Dominion (May 8)
So, will they fix GMX?
Also why the fuck do we not have any leak image yet?
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>>564402558
>Ash is in the game (scenario)
>I'm not getting checked by anything, I don't play.
>Ash has been turn skipping people since it was created.
>New rule, 10 special summon limit per turn.
geg it actually works
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>>564398356
>Any card that hasn't yet been officially released in the OCG or TCG yet
>EDO
I'll let someone else more knowledgeable explain it, but yeah.
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>>564398356
>>what is the prerelease cardpool? I know what a cardpool is, but I don't know what cards fall under "prerelease"
prerelease is basically a format where every known card that we know is or will be legal is allowed
hence prerelease because besides TCG/OCG legal cards, most cards that fall under that category are cards konami revealed but whose set is not out yet (like the new toon support for example)
>what sim? I only have MD and EDOPro
we play on edopro
>I don't know what segoc is, but I'm assuming it means the difference in rules between TCG and OCG, is this correct?
small differences between TCG and OCG rulings, hosting with segoc on means using the TCG rulings
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>10 special summon limit in place
>Handtraps deleted from existence
>Someone is playing Speedroid, now rather than taking 10-15 minutes to finish his turn which ends on multiple Crystal Wings and some other Clear Wings, said player will now end on less, doesn't exhaust their entire hand, doesn't exhaust their entire extra deck, has a board that can be pushed through, but not killed through, and he has enough resources to fight back against the opponents board on his next turn, extending the game into later turns.


>Summon limit not in place
>Handtraps now exist again
>Either gets handtrapped and skips his turn on nothing (non-game) or takes 15 minutes to make a board that has as many interactions as you have cards (so another non-game) after going through his entire extra deck in a single turn.
And if this theoretical board did get outed by say a going second deck full of board breakers, then the guy loses on the spot because he just blew everything on a retarded turn 1 board that has no care in the world for any turn after because its built to either win or lose with the board that is made

How are we even pretending the latter is better? Really makes me wonder.
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https://youtu.be/1TbHYjGvS68?is=8sRLbnziSL8GK_EF
we do philosophy with YGO cards now???
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>>564402985
I hope they'll give us at least something broken. look likes KoA try to make playable TCG exclusive deck now(?)
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>>564403912
>Foucault
>The pedo
Bruh.
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wasn't there some new TCG original announced recently besides GMX or i'm imagining shit? not the arc-v stuff
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>>564404578
yes, for chaos origin: it is a chess synchro based archetype
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>>564404578
The synchro chess archetype will be coming out in CORI in July. For reasons they decided to tease them several months early in advance
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>>564404578
https://www.yugiohmeta.com/articles/product-news/2026/march/cori-tcg
here
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>>564404748
They probably proud of that shit
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The only way to save GMX is give them Landing, but without restriction
That shit is legit War Rock tier
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Fucking R.B have
>Monster Negate
>S/T Negate
>Quickplay Pop/Steal
>Snip monster from hand
The fuck does GMX have?
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>>564405725
Fuse from deck :)
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>>564405725
Sadness.
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>>564404714
>>564404748
>>564404865
this was for cori and not bldo? wtf it's such an early ass reveal
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>>564403153
>>564403602
thank you
I read up on segoc, and the only difference seems to be priority for unknown cards
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>>564405404
Tewart was very proud when he announced to the world that he made maxx c, droll, shifter
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>>564407270
i mean, from what it description, it more like TCG's Runick
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>>564407632
>mature woman
*vomit*
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>>564408028
You might want to do something about that liver failure
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name the deck that made you say this
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Best girl
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ban ash
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turn 0 was a mistake
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Edo fucking dies when there are more than 3 Kewl Tunes on the field.
It took me 4 MINUTES to do ONE synchro summon because Edo doesn't understand how many tuner combinations are legal.
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>>564409712
So that's how konami plans on killing free sims.
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>>564409712
What PC are you using?
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>>564409268
1 witchcrafter + 1 spellcaster is such an easy requirement for a monster with 3 good effects om it
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>>564408336
Cute mom and daughter
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>>564409928
It's a 4 years old Core i7 2.60GHz lapop.
It should be more than enough for a game like this
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>>564409712
Truly a high IQ deck
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>>564408818
Me when I try to play against Kewl Tune and they tear 3 cards out of my ED before I even get to my turn.
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>>564410000
But the tradeoff is that you have to play Witchcrafter
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>>564410283
Even Balatro can blow your machine up once the numbers get big enough.
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>>564410000
It’s a LV6 or lower Witchcrafter.
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>>564411442
It's a budget "gamer" laptop, it can run Witcher 4 just fine.
RDR2 too if you don't care about the thermals.
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>>564384984
People will say this helps go-second decks, but i am salivating about going first against a chump that tries turn 0 shit and then get to drawing cards.
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Your shitty decks would not die to ash or nibiru if they were not shitty decks, ever thought of that?
Because that's the core problem with YGO, niggas think they're yugi and think any deck can win if your'e skillful enough, which is a complete fucking lie. This is not a 1994-2001 fighting game, this is 2026 Yugioh.
>BUT MUH HYPERBOREAN ARYAN AESTHETIC AS FUARK DECK FOR MY AURA!!!
Aesthetics don't win games, strong cards do.
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can we genuinely fucking ban blazing cartesia or something
how many years of branded do I have to endure
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>>564414039
>This is not a 1994-2001 fighting game
Are you ranting about any mildly modern fighting game not requiring skill?
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>>564414451
Modern fighting games are not built like old fighting games that had low tiers with half of their kit being punishable on hit. a modern low tier character would be a mid tier in an old game while a bottom tier character in a fighting game is some TRUE FUCKING TRASH.
And yet if you're skilled enough, you can make a miracle, 3rd strike goons made Hugo beat the low tier allegations.
I cannot say the same for YGO, no matter if you're too skilled or you know the entire game inside out, your skill alone is not gonna make some trash like Dream Mirror win.
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>>564414039
Just top deck everything you need while your opponent bricks.
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>>564415029
Trading card games aren't balanced, more news at 11.

The whole business model requires them to print more and more powerful cards to encourage sales.
It's not the same as a fighting game where at concept level, all characters are meant to be balanced.
I don't know why every once in a while people feel the need to compare card games with fighting games, when their gameplay couldn't be more different.
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>>564414039
maybe ash IS the problem
ever thought of that
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>>564416204
If ash is a problem, then why everybody that wants her (and damn near every handtrap for that matter) always brings up the whole "Handtraps should be banned because they kill low tiers more than high tier decks!" argument. Maybe if no deck was low tier shit then ash ceases to be an issue. Plus, making YGO not have shitty cards means that if packfiller is good, then sets are worth buying, thus konami wins money.
The existence of low tiers is only going to affect the profits negatively.
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>BUT MUH HYPERBOREAN ARYAN AESTHETIC AS FUARK DECK FOR MY AURA!!!

Name 1 archetype that does this
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unban ishizu
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>>564416716
Yummy.
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>>564416716
Traptrix
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>>564416716
KASHTIRA
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>Maze is still samefagging
Unplayer so desperate to be seen as a good source of information he's too busy to notice that he sounds like an outsider retard
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>>564411205
They're pretty decent with the upcoming support, for what it's worth. Terracottan's archetype lock also isn't nearly as harsh as it sounds on paper since you're only using the in-hand effect when you're recovering from a nearly-irrevocable gamestate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds1AcfyQ87Y

>that comment section

wtf did julien do?
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>>564416716
buster blader the hyperborean swordsman and his aryan white and blue-eyed whelp gf
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>>564384984
Absolute fucking dogshit card that people are hyping out insanely hard for no reason, same as crown but this is way worse.
If you're running this going second any mulcharmy would be better
It eats shit to a negate that they're gonna have because you decided to run this taking space in your turn 1 hand instead of a proper interaction
And if the effect does go off it's not even anything special.
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>>564418738
He activated a searcher or something in one of his games, then looked at a card at the top of his deck, didn't shuffle, didn't offer a cut for the opponent then drew the card he saw which won him the game.
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>>564419082
holy shit, that happened on a feature match?
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>>564419228
It is yeah but I can't remember which one, maybe someone else can link it.
It was recent though.
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>>564419374
judges are either useless or in bad faith, it's not even that surprising top players get away with so much cheating
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>>564419871
It's both judges and konami being absurdly retarded
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>>564416716
Ryzeal cope builds
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>>564418738
>>564419082
>>564419228
>>564419374
World Champion Julien Kehon searches his deck, pushes up top card to see it then decides not to shuffle and just places his deck back and ends turn. Guess what he draws next turn?

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxIB2Q2EWsSOhjzHk4jGGWbcVJIoNRRjpg

Something similar happened in the next streamed YCS but I don't think it was Julien that time.
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>>564414068
>how many years of branded do I have to endure
its here to stay, bitch
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is pot of sloth dangerous?

>This vase is like a satire on adult Yu-Gi-Oh! users
>Yu-Gi-Oh! players tend to underestimate the mulligan, don't they?
>My grandmother, who's been getting senile lately, has the same face
>I really don't want to spend money on this
>It's hilarious how everyone's talking about looks rather than performance
>It was just the right amount of strong; it could have been even stronger
>It's the fault of the person who's letting things escalate to this point
>I'm happy to have a strong card that I can use when going second
>Basically, it's a mulligan, so I think it depends on the other cards you draw
>Seriously, I won't bother setting aside a side deck slot just for a mulligan...
>It's not dangerous, but it's pretty strong.
>the ability to draw and then return cards is truly great.
>It's strong because you can return unwanted cards from your hand.
>I'll put three on the side for now.
>It's not a second-player card. Since there are more opponents who make moves on turn 0 when going second, this is a card for going first
>Even with those conditions, you'd almost never be able to draw more than two cards!
>Woohoo, I drew 13 cards!
>It's an exciting card, but the design is gross.
>It doesn't work when going first, so it's truly a lazy pot.
>It won't fit on MD.
>I would have preferred it to be -2 or -3, but I guess that would be too strong?
>I have a feeling we might see three jars combined soon
>Why didn't you come a few years ago?!
>High-powered magic mallet
>It's incredibly powerful; the power of a second-turn mulligan shouldn't be underestimated.
>It looks like it'll make it into the Tenpai deck.
>There's no downside to using it, is there?
>having a mulligan + draw is just wrong.
>Is this card the new harmonia?
>So this is how the official team views the person who goes second...
>I came across some erotic images of this guy and was shocked.
>[reply] Why did you search for that...?
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>>564422740
Is cheating a form of skill expression?
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>>564422740
Just checked, the other guy wasn't a YCS it was the streamed Italian open.

https://www.youtube.com/live/ycskkoBuKb4?si=7SRtOUtMlVE8t4mr&t=33498

9:18:18
Albion the Shrouded dumps White Albaz, player slides up the top card of the deck to see what it was (it was a Lukias that he needed) while looking for the Albaz, he doesn't shuffle the deck at all and doesn't present the deck, draws the 1 card for Albion Shrouded, immediately shuffles hand to make it so the gamestate can't be reversed, then summons Lukias.
Even the casters tried calling it out.

9:22:55
Head Judge says that not cutting was ok and Xinxin said he didn't want to bother cutting the deck, but the head judge completely ignored the fact that Romeo didn't shuffle the deck at all and even gave him a 3 minute extension.

Cheating happens constantly during every big event but they usually didn't do it that obviously in the finals or semis beforehand.
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>>564423524
Yes, it's a feature for paper play.
The judges don't give a fuck 99% of the time so you're only handicapping yourself if you don't cheat in paper.
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>>564423314
>>I came across some erotic images of this guy and was shocked.
>>[reply] Why did you search for that...?

comedy

The Pot is okay. Not insane, not trash
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>>564423314
This Pot is just ok. Not trash like dng says but not broken either.
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we got borreload L(iberator) dragon, how long until we get firewall L(INKVRAINS) dragon? or will they cuck firewall even more for decode L talker
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What's the current /dng/ drama?
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>>564428264
Uhh, toons meta.
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>>564428264
Malisstrannies crying
Soratroon is a Indian
Trannywave trooned out over Lunalight
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And remember. /dng/ called the new pot shit and Toons broken. Therefore, invest in pot and ignore toons.
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>>564375576
If you ban droll you have to hit about 2 dozen FTK and hand ripping lines
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>>564409712
meanwhile mdpro works fine kek
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>>564405725
They have oviraptor and the dino boys.
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>>564429095
>ban the bandaid
>forced to deal with the root problem
Where's the downside?
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>>564429095
That should have always been the solution.
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How did Maliss manage to mind break this general so much?
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>>564429549
Because 60% of the posts in this general is from the same 5 individuals.
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our heroes
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Are there actual decks that mindbroke this place?
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>>564429781
I mean, that's the be expected. There's legitimately only like 20 posters here now. It's crazy low. It's just a never ending ride of us 20 shit talking each other.
Everybody else left.
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*toonifies your 5Ds and GX monsters*
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Maze/Sonian hours.
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>>564430060
>cyber tutu remembered
PROPER CYBER GIRL SUPPORT WHEN
DO NOT RETRAIN CYBER TUTU AS CYBER ANGEL SUPPORT I BEG OF YOU.
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>>564430060
mindnumbingly broken toon HEROes soon
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>>564430176
Cyber tutubon.
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>>564430386
I have literally never seen this card in my life lmao
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I'm afraid next banlist won't hit shit
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>>564430763
Welcome to the clown clan.
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>>564430763
It'll hit the current cheapest playable deck in the meta.
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If it wasn't for Maze and Sora this general would already be dead.
On behalf of /dng/, I kneel to them.
Thank you for your service.
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>>564430910
we are Maze Kirk
we carry the general
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>>564430910
Probably the saddest part of it all is I know son is pulling double duty shitposting on /v/ yugioh threads and maze shitposts on /vt/ full time as well
These two legitimately throw away 12+ hours of every day on this website.
Their lives just totally wasted.
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>>564430910
>Maze and Sora
Did you mean Maze and Son?
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people are starting to call out kotton's 2 free byes again but without actually saying kotton to not start a civil yugiwar
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>>564431938
>as realistically if you top a YCS you should be good enough to win your first two rounds anyways
Who wants to tell Kotton that?
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>>564431938
will he address the elephant in the room? Just win a 4 round local at your OTS and get VIP status.
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>>564431938
TL;DR
I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened
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>>564431938
fattonbros... we are slowly being called out...
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>>564431938
Hoban called Kotton out on that shit years ago and nothing happened, all the other yugitubers are pussies.
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that guy is talking about the VIP status that anyone can get from >>564433306
not Kotton. But you may as well throw that lump in the conversation
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>>564431938
the most hilarious aspect is that the byes work in 3v3s as well
there were how many, eight rounds only in La Paz? the whole team still got a 2-0 start
the amount of advantage that a 2-0 start give in tiebreaks is massive
>>564433605
hoban is a cunt, he'd the be the first to defend the system had he won one of those meme uds in the past
he was part of the team in La Paz btw
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>>564433605
Hoban being the closest we've got to a yugioh name with integrity is still funny to me, and he only counts because he's not afraid to be a dick unlike people like MBT who have to hide behind fifty layers of irony before they say anything.
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>>564431125
Son and Maze are welfare recipients. They legit have nothing else in life to do. Hell you'd think with that free time they'd at least go to locals but they don't even play the game.
>>564433794
They honestly need to remove their guaranteed byes.
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>>564433605
Kotton had to beg Hoban and LeBlanc and bribe them with 2 free byes to let him on their team so he could finally win a South American YCS, if he didn't he'd never ever win against the LATAMonkeys.
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>>564434028
they removed them for anyone but kotton... they'll last until 2029 just for him and whoever teams with him in team ycses, lol
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>>564434048
>he'd never ever win against the LATAMonkeys
And he still hasn't. If you had to be carried not only by your byes but by your teammates you didn't win shit.
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>>564434028
So son dropped out of his courses?
Bummer. I bet maze dragged him down the welfare path. Crabs in a bucket mentality man, he sees another brit try and better themselves and just tries to destroy their future so he won't be alone.
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>>564433605
The yugitubers would lose fans (and thus money) or they'd stop getting konami gibmedats if they speak up against Konami or Kotton's free byes.
Hoban is rich enough to not give a fuck so he can say whatever, and even before becoming a CEO he'd say whatever he wanted to.
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>564434473
>why does general hate (me) and not (people I hate)
shuuuuut the fuck up faggot
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>>564434048
We count that as a Hoban and LeBlanc win, Kotton didn't do shit.
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>>564434048
>let them on their team
>so they could finally win a YCS
Damn I didn't know Maliss and Kotton had so much in common
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I can't wait for Unchained to get a Light Fiend that has an effect when sent to the gy as link material
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>inb4 requiem or engraver ban
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Feels like Enneacraft needs a guy that can mass set a bunch of your monsters at once rather than the slow "set one guy at a time", as a quickie even
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>>564435587
requiem should be ban
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Mildly funny there's no way for Unchained to get around being a vehicle for Fiendslop save for humiliation ritual archetypelock
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>>564434473
Soundwave, as cringe as he is, actually does play the game. Something both the brits stopped doing
As for Sora...its interesting how he only posts during the exact same times that son used to post? People will always claim that son "isn't here anymore" but I think its fairly clear that "son" isn't here but son is posting as someone else.
And this "diapercord" that "magically" popped up (that the british enlightened us to (while also giving no proof of their existance)) AND this "diapercord" strictly shitposted in the EXACT same manner that both maze and son would post?
And the fact that Maze's only 1 skill, his bread and butter, is burrowing into discords for incriminating screenshots yet the "diapercord" has fully evaded him somehow. Meaning maze is either completely incompetent and has been bested or there's nothing to screenshot.
I dunno. Soundwave is like a 10% annoyance on /dng/. The british/"sora" are the remaining 90%
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>>564435764
>A fiend deck shouldn't use fiend cards because... LE SLOP
Also they could just say non-LIGHT
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>>564436779
It would still just be yubel slop.
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>I don't care what the say about me I just want people to talk about me
You have a better future becoming a streamer with your attention-whore mindset but you waste your talents on 4chan
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>>564437384
I'd watch a retarded british lolcow.
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>>564435764
How do they bridge into Fiendsmith?
It's not like they have an in-archetype light fiend.
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>>564438558
Unchained has a bunch of level 3s, you just make brass djinn.
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>>564394787
Branded players after white dragon don’t look at Branded fusion as a great card.
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um, duel links sisters...?
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>>564435802
Son can't be Sora simply from the fact that it seems Sora has too much money given his purchases. Son doesn't even make a fraction of what Soundwave makes.
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>>564439575
He's british
By default those people are all thieves. Never met a brit in my life who isn't constantly shoplifting
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>>564439474
what game is 5th place?
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https://twitter.com/NeyQiiGRpaer/status/2046996723520926075
Today is April 23, 2026 in Japan, 10 years since the release of The Darkside of Dimensions. Say anything about this movie on its 10th anniversary.
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>>564439732
How would he shoplift stuff that's made to order and Japan exclusive? The guy has too much of the only for Japan stuff that isn't sold in the US or UK.
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>>564436779
they technically did give enough support for rokkets so that it plays mostly standalone along with borrels and DARK lock and doesn't put any extra dragon slop like seals/romulus/baby chaos dragons/bmd engine anymore, they could probably do the same for unchained since they are getting 7 cards
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>>564439575
>>564440010
Son seems stupid enough to fall for the debt meme
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>>564439831
Game of Heroes: Three Kingdoms
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Animal buddy.
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>>564439895
It's the best yugioh movie of all time and we were due a DM Super before Kaz died.
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if I want to smokescreen into tenpai what should I use? 3 paidra 1 chundra 1 sangen kaimen 1 field spell? what about the extra
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>>564445253
>It's the best yugioh movie of all time
I mean, the competition wasn't really present for that title.
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>>564439895
Kneel
https://files.catbox.moe/ujgali.mp4
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>>564445872
>the death rattle of Toei Yugioh before Gallop took over
>4Kids Slop which breaks the canon
>a glorified 5Ds OVA which just so happened to have Yugi and Judai in it
You'd think we'd have more movies or OVAs because of how crazy Yugioh lore is but it just didn't happen.
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>>564445872
>>564439895
>BBT for the 10th anniversary
>DSoD for the 20th anniversary
So we should be getting a new movie soon right?
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>>564447274
Made odder since Pyramid of Light is functionally just the prototype of Dark Side of Dimensions as it takes several cues from from the former.
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>>564447521
PoL was a shit movie but quite a few concepts from it ended up being recycled into R, GX and DSoD.

>Barbaros is a clear homage to the Sphinxes
>GX Light of Destruction vs Gentle Darkness was obviously inspired by the Pyramid of Light vs the Millenium Puzzle
>and Pegasus needing a tablet to create cards comes from the novelization of the movie which GX shows with the Rainbow Dragon tablet
>also Yubel's surgery echos the surgery Anubis had in the novelization of PoL
>DSoD just replaced the Pyramid of Light with the Quantum Cube and replaced everything else which didn't make much sense with its own version



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