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listen ok>she's dead technically>she's a spirit technically>she's a sweet girl >she's immortal
one mechanic that i think would define how modern sonic plays that i would also absolutely detest is something like this:>chaining actions like performing tricks, defeating enemies, and light dashing builds up a multiplier>the multiplier is temporary, fading if there is enough of a pause between actions OR if you get hit>instead of awarding a sum of bonus points corresponding to the length of the chain at the end, the bonus instead multiplies all incoming points while the multiplier is active>performing a long chain in quick succession will increase the multiplier in addition to maintaining it>the higher the multiplier, the more quickly it fades, though the increase in depletion is only slight at worst>completing the level without breaking the chain would boost your rank by one full grade, so B to A, A to S, and S to the exclusive X ranki think this mechanic would perfectly encapsulate the flowstate that sonic games are meant to support in that it encourages the player to do as much as they can in a level in the shortest amount of time without making mistakes - being a fusion and extension of the ring and time bonuses of the older games - while also encouraging replayability through practicing for that perfect run.and that's exactly why i would hate it.
>>565640703Just make sure there's a 2 hour unskippable cutscene where Shadow and Sally or Sonic and Surge fuck
>>565641042god I wish nicole was my gf
Tails ^-^
>>565640847kek
Say it.
>>565640847Someone add the previous thread link
Douge
>>565641685mid
plapping angry Surge
>>565641191This is why doing styling in the Rush games is just flavor, not an integral mechanic.
>>565640847>>565641676Previous Zone: >>565610662
Surj makes the greenest and meanest fucking logs.
>>565638183>>565638072Quaver hasn't been this based in a long time.
>>565641778i'd still prefer an actual roster with full move lists like in the advance trilogy, rather than focusing on only sonic and sheer speed alone>but it's HIS seriesit would cripple itself if it still revolved around him as it did since rush and unleashed
>>565641771Duofag do request please?
Rick & Nick
>>565641656Black Knight was one of the worst Sonic games.
What is the Sonic equivalent of this?
Tails’ big butt
https://x.com/sonic_hedgeblog/status/2050674227578118426>Sonic swimming
>>565642767Choosing Hedgehog for your OC in forces
>>565642767Playing solo Sonic in S3&K.
>>565640847Worst Sonic game in the OP.>>565642767Just playing Sonic in any game with multiple characters.
I don't like Sonic Heroes
>>565643732What do you like?
>>565643797Sonic 2 is pretty cool
>>565643871Nice
Nibroc is so much better at characterizing the game cast because he bases them off their dialogue and not their voice acting or autistic ideas about what they should be conceptually like Ian.
>>565643732>>565643871Excellent taste
c:
>>565644223>I like Nibroc's OOC headcanon better than Ian'sNo one asked but ok
>>565644412Boy!!!
>>565644223I haven't played Speed sim, what's the characterization like? Honestly I didn't even know it had dialogue until today.
>>565644478I love his little flying goggles
>>565644648(:
>>565644435What's OOC about Nibroc's work?
Have a lovely night
Loaf
>>565644684What is this from?
Does anyone know where these are from? I downloaded these last year
>>565644862Nurico
Is it a hot take to say Iizuka isn't the greatest at characterization
>>565645248Huh I just noticed they gave Tails pink colored ears. I think this is the first time we got to see his actual skin
>>565645306How?
>>565644435>Calls it OOC>can't name any exampleSomeone's just mad Shadikal won
Guess no one cares
>>565644843Good night, and stay safe
>>565645682How does that work, why would we be seeing his skin? I would have assumed it was a coloring error
doom....
Sal!
>>565646360Cute slut
You guys are odd
>>565646360Cutest slut
>>565646305I thought that was Jet in the bottom right for a second
;D
>Why? Why did she try to go it alone? She should've stayed in her bed. Her nice warm bed.>Now the fire was going out.>All Tangle could do now was wrap her tail around her freezing, stiffening body, all for the fleeting hope of warmth, and hope. Hope she wasn't alone.>"S-S-S-Sonicccc.... W-W-W-Whisperrrr... S-S-S-Somebodyyyy... Help me...">The fire goes out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZorOx1gHCzMNighty night
Anyone else watch Sonic X and pause whenever there's a good view of Sonic to appreciate how much of a snack he is?
>>565646830Goodnight!
>>565646967yeah
Why aren't you making an indie game inspired by your favorite blue hedgehog?
>>565647696Crippling lethargy.
Sonic ships for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_lfgahuMk0
Cream the Rabbit
>>565647696I don't want money I want Sonic
Tails!
Movie Amy sex.
>>565646967No, but I do this in Boom with Amy.
>>565647696Simply put any indie game you make based on sonic would be more interesting with sonic instead. Freedom Planet? Hot shit from a Butt, Rollin Rascals? shit looks like a 3D fan game engine tech demo from 2013. Lightspeed Lina? I doubt its real but I'd fuck this chick.
Krack got futa'd
>>565649530do you ever get tired of saying weird shit
I can be inactive for weeks and /sthg/ will still fill an entire archive pages with posts about me daily. Loving your favorite character as they are is just that controversial.A lot of Shadow fans don't actually love Shadow as he's written. It's more that they love the mental construct they've built around him to satisfy their own psychological needs. To such a fan, Shadow is supposed to deliver a specific "feeling". He makes them feel strong, loved, seen, or whatever other emotional gap they're trying to fill. When you point out canonical statements that disprove the projection, they feel discomfort from the cognitive dissonance. Their attachment to him has become fused with their identity, so if you point out a fact that disrupts the "feeling" they get from him, you're also threatening their sense of self. Changing their view of Shadow to be more accurate to who he really is would be too emotionally difficult for them, so it's easier to attack the source instead (Sonic Team, Iizuka, or any fan pointing out the information). At the end of the day, they're more invested in the role of being a Shadow fan than in the character himself.
>>565649943https://files.catbox.moe/x7k1m7.png
Fuck off Krack
Nerve hit?
*hides your post*
sex with (rape) autistic shadow fangirls
>>565646967they gave this character dimension, depth, an actual weight, and height, but still give him cartoon physicsokay
>>565649943I don't remember you why do they hate you again
>>565650484It's mostly off topic politics, talk about something else
oh looks it's female Ken Penders
>>565649943
>>565650484I point out factual information about things like Shadow, which makes them feel unsafe because they've tied part of their identity to a falsity.
Krack is the reason Shadow should have actually died in SA2.
Shadow is cool and I love him as he is. I hope Shadow continues to be Shadow forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h56PCj49_oE
>>565649392This pretty much, it also doesn't help that nine times out of ten the main character looks UGLYBut when they don't you're just like "man I wish this was Sonic..."
>>565650710She's the polar opposite of penders
>>565647696I'd sooner make a indie game inspired by Pizza Tower than Sonic.
>>565651305If you think about it, Pizza Tower did right what Lost World failed to to, which was make the dedicated run button fun to use.
>>565649943The first ten dozen times I was told you're an evil demon out to kill everyone for OOC who I should hate and shun didn't take. I think it's weird that your positions on Shadow or JP Sonic storytelling in general are controversial. I would have thought they were the default. I just chalk it up to people thinking "She doesn't agree that my ship is canon, she is the devil". That or troon politics.
Stop replying to yourself.
>>565651785I am glad I will never know what it's like to hate someone so much that I cannot possibly comprehend that other people might not hate them
>>565648807
>>565652329Don't reply to me either.
>>565651585pizza tower has better high speed gameplay than any sonic game and its not close
Sonic is fast
>>565652516Give me the frame of Amy responding to my formal request to have sex with her.
Sonic and Shadow are cool
>>565653086yeah but should he be fast all the time? idk, why doesn't he go to therapy and take estrogen or something
>>565653340How long has that meme been floating around for anyway
>>565653436idk one anon has been posting it for a week or something
Every night I lay awake thinking about what games that /sthg/ loves more than Sonic
>>565653648pizza tower and lies of p
>>565653648not really a ranking but >>565155875
>>565653648i like ultrakill and i promise you im not gay
>>565651708That's about right. Shipping or politics are the two main reasons. Disliking most Western Sonic content is a side reason. I'm not going to claim to be a nice person. I tend to talk in a blunt or truculent way. But I don't like manipulating or lying to others. It's a bit difficult for me to understand why those accusations increase the more honest I feel I'm being. Maybe it's because the intent is irrelevant or unbelievable to them. The statement is judged by how much it disrupted their feelings, not by what I meant. Or maybe they think some amount of manipulation is necessary to survive and be liked, so the concept of someone telling the truth for zero personal gain isn't believable to them.
>>565653648That's a lot of games. The only Sonic titles I truly love are the Adventure games
>>565653212
>>565644684>>565641771it's a good thing I came already today
>>565653648I don't think anyone should have to parade themselves as nice if they're on 4chan, though I personally prefer to be nice. I guess some people respond poorly to blunt speech even if you're telling the truth But even if that's a factor it reads as an overblown reaction, at least from an outside perspective. "Shadow loves Maria" shouldn't be controversial. "Shadow does not love Amy/Sally/Bulma/Sonic/Pancakes" shouldn't be controversial either but it is, unfortunately. My impression is that a lot of people associate you with a threat to a pairing they identify with. A threat to their entertainment or therapeutic comfort or whatever. Because of that they've decided that a human being is worth disrespecting in the name of a non-canon fictional pairing, or in spite of a canon one. It might not be motivated entirely by your person but rather they associate you as a threat to something important to them. That sounds insane laid out but that's the read I get with the constant "Krack is out to get everyone run for the hills" fearmongering.
OhhhhhThe pain....
>>565655340Meant for >>565654597
>>565655378me trying to remember the boss of the cave area in mgs3
>>565655030Feels off seeing satam lines come out of modernic. Sally as Misty is cute. I think you could give some Ash and Misty lines to Sonic and Sally and it'd sound how they normally do.
>>565655030elias
Look i got it, nobody is good in nature, you just do what feels right.You gotta do what you gotta do, like digging your way out of a dungeon with bare hands.Be like fiona, when life gives (You) lemons, piss battery acid.
>>565647696I don't want to.That reminds me, I should add her to the list even if I question if she'll ever come out.
>>565655727Sonic is good
>>565655868No he's a flawless moralnigger who got supposedly "tortured for months" but his personality is flat like a cardboard so nothing affected his sanity.
>>565655817I think you should add "has playable demo" to the release status because even making it that far is sometimes a miracle
>>565655727*pets you*
>>565656087You're wrong actually, he's the coolest
The funny thing about the "torture" line is that even though the dub made it up, Sonic could probably be tortured for months and still come out of it unaffected.
>>565656126No if only due to kickstarter scammers. Either you cross the finish line by releasing a game or you ain't worth shit. If an absolute NOBODY can release FOUR GAMES (Polyroll and Panic Porcupine have the same dev and are both getting sequels) then the least your sonic knockoff can do is release one.Yujiro posting cause the deep dive into Sonic clones can get just as convoluted and autistic as Sonic Timeline discussions.
dead generaldead site
>>565656230you could unironically rape him day and night and he would be like "Hey, i'm sonic the hedgehog! Let's go for an adventure!". That is not a person, it's a DEVIL! CANON NIC IS A DEVIL!
I'm just an average guy with super speed, super strength, can harness mystical energies to become a whole range of nigh unstoppable demigods, is chosen by the goddess gaia, has an airplane, and is so important that if anything happens to me the universe will literally create a copy of me to act in my steadwho loves adventure
>>565656087That was localization, JP says "given a hard time" not "tortured for months".
>>565656606Well yeah, he's not a bitch like the freedom planet sluts.
>>565656808>given a hard timeHow do you interpret that?
Sonic 3>Sonic is spoken of in legend on a mural as the being that will save the world from Eggman's machines Underground>Sonic is royaltySonic Adventure>Sonic is the only one in 5000 year to even consider making Chaos less angry Sonic Adventure 2>Sonic is identical to the ultimate genetic experiment made 35 years before he was bornSonic X>Cosmo has heard of Sonic for some reason>Sonic is the only person on planet earth to innately remember that the earth revolves Sonic Heroes>Sonic is the only person in team Sonic who can go superSonic 06>Sonic can't actually die, he just turns into the windSonic Riders>Sonic is better at Extreme Gear than people who have been doing it their entire livesSonic Storybook games>The characters of legend already know who Sonic isSonic Boom>Sonic is remembered across history for trapping Lyric before he even knows who Lyric isSonic Forces>Without Sonic, the world will go to hell>Sonic is so important that the universe will summon a Sonic from the multiverse if Sonic is ever incapacitatedSonic Frontiers>Sonic is the only mortal strong enough to escape cyber space, and the only mortal who can tolerate cyber corruptionSonic Prime>The world will go to hell if Sonic doesn't exist>Tails would become an introverted psychopath if Sonic wasn't in his life>After two days of meeting Sonic, everyone is willing to throw their lives away for him even if his death is the only thing that would save them allSonic films>Each of Sonic's quills has enough power to fuel a nuclear bomb.Just a regular guy who loves adventure. I can see why people don't think he's cocky. He should be a lot more arrogant than he actually is.
>>565657029every day they would present sonic with a plate of delicious food only for someone to flip the plate over and laugh at him
Sonic is an ideal, unreachable and fundamentally impossible to relate to. He possesses the power and influence to acquire anything he desires.Finding inspiration in him is a fool's errand. He has nothing but empty platitudes. He cannot help you in ways that would truly help, his transient nature won't allow him. Once he's gone, you're simply left to return to the grind, the struggle. Trusting Sonic is to live your life in a dangerous delusion.
>Silver: "and tails... tails just lost it"Tails, staring at the ceiling for months:
>>565657198>impossible to relate toMaybe for you!!!!!
Sonic is a bodhisattva
>>565657362gesundheit
>>565656803>>565657086>>565657198You're killing me this is the absolute best lazy writing. Sonic is the perfect semi-god.
she's probably never seen fat people before don't cancel her
>>565657198>ideal, unreachable and fundamentally impossible to relate to. He possesses the power and influence to acquire anything he desires.>Finding inspiration in him is a fool's errand.shut up jew
>>565657687Christ has a final purpose before he's gone, sonic not even that, sonic is never done.
>>565657687Da mormun jeezus
>>565657086That's exactly why he's not cocky. He's insanely humble for all the things they canonize about him. If he wasn't the second coming of Christ in-universe then sure the way he talks would be cocky. I would consider Sonic cocky if he talked the way he does but was actually just a regular person.
>Sonic>regular person
>>565656606>>565656853Sonic is a gary stu in Forces.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAzE93dpcoY
>Sonic is cyber corrupted for multiple days>Just minor groans of pain, eventually falls unconscious and paralyzed >Knuckles is cyber corrupted for a few hours at most>starts laughing maniacally
>>565658082Naw, Sonic is Jesus. He brushes off getting killed.
>>565657687>>565657514This explains why Sonic doesn't kill Eggman, for he has already forgiven his sins...
sonic is a proud muslim this is why he loves to fast
>>565658210He was just getting the chuckling out of his %system%
>>565658375Unleashed, Secret Rings, 06, and Rivals all confirm that Islam is a physical reality in the world of Sonic and not just religious scripture
I bet even bullets can't harm the blue rat, let's try it out.
>>565658457me thighfucking cream is an islamic physical reality
https://x.com/RAPYIER1/status/2050791032581763328?s=20I like proto AU art
>>565658375I met a bunch of christian ethiopians who don't eat pork and fast like jesus did. So i guess sonic is still more similar to a messiah.The only thing he misses is having hallucinations of god talking to him like every prophet.
Jesus wasn't even a gary stu like Sonic is.>My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?If Sonic is God, then Tails and Amy are religious zealots.
Give me some cute Jewel stories/art!And maybe some good porn too
>>565658565Why are people still drawing Terios with Sonic quills
>>565658706They are a pagan cult.
>>565658732because they can
>>565658725no
Islam is Stanism using Abrahamic religions to mask itself.
Is it just me or is Sonic a Gary Stu? I've even heard that Sega imposed a mandate on the movies that dictates that Sonic can't ask for help
if they tried to sacrifice Sonic on the cross he would either get away or inspire everyone who wanted to kill him into stopping
>>565658732Because that's what Terios had in the concept art.
>>565658831I remember when someone pointed that out I got confused, because I remembered that he specifically did. Then I went back to the scene and checked and he actually didn't. He didn't ask for help, he just demanded it until Tom caved. In fact the only time I can remember Sonic asking for help in the form of the question was SA2. Fuck, knowing what we know now that might just be a dub error.
Buddhism is the one true religion
Naka wouldn't ask for help
>>565658831All hedgehogs are Gary stus.
>>565658831Sonic is mandated to be strong, physically and psychologically because somehow their intent is to create a symbol of hope and cooperation.Problem is it's so exaggerated he doesn't feel like a person, so like any unnatural writing it just feel flat and weightless.Sonic can't even cry, although it's veru common for children to cry, they don't know how to manage negative emotions for a positive character because that would be a level of depth where you must put effort and ST just want easy money.
Isn gave Tangle this much praise while basically dissing most of the female characters in the games only for her to be reduced to yuribait and a walking pillow to cry into for the weeping wolf lol.
>>565659202Amy and Silver aren't
>>565659369Silver absolutely is.
>>565658831>>565659232All of those mandates are a result of Iizuka seeing Archie and Satam btw
Edits are funhttps://files.catbox.moe/sjwkwx.jpg
>>565659232>Problem is it's so exaggerated he doesn't feel like a person,I am pretty certain this is intentional. Western Sonics try to feel like a Teenager but JP Sonics are more like a rockstar fairy god parent with a hard to read stare
>>565659502They're alright
>>565659232There is nothing wrong with Sonic being someone who reached their peak. He doesn't need to be this flawed asshole or wimp who can't control his emotions and fuck things up. He's supposed to be a hero who inspires others and makes them feel safe by just being himself. When Sonic arrives to save the dat, it isn't about IF he can do it, it's about HOW he's gonna do it.
>>565659430Amy will be one too after the movie comes out.
>>565659232People will say this and love Dragon Ball where all the strongest characters are just as aloof as Sonic except Vegeta in particular
>>565659710That is a blatant lie.
>>565659753Beerus, Whis, Goku, Jiren, Broly.
If Sonic were real, you would want his in-character game version saving you, not the western version who would likely need your entire town destroyed with you in it because he wasn't "fast enough" and needs to learn a lesson and get another round of "character development".
>>565659830I would cope elope with Lanolin
>>565659826I don't watch nuDB so I don't know about any of the shit it's doing. I'm talking about the original
Would you join Sonic in the bathroom as he is pooping? Would you have a conversation with him? What about?
>>565659830I wouldn't want either because Sonic causes a shit ton of unnecessary property damage whether he saves the day or not. Stay out of my fucking city.
>>565659710>>565659826Goku struggles to get his power and is at least helped by others, sonic just wins so you should stfu.
>>565659946Even Goku is pretty much just a less intelligent Sonic and most of his heroic or sympathetic stuff is amplified in the anime.. Compare his reaction to being violently beaten in the anime to the manga where he gives a blank childlike stare.
>>565659502That's kinda small..
>>565660029>NOOOO SONIC DESTROYED MY CAR WHILE SKATEBOARDING DOWN THE STREET TRYING TO ESCAPE THE POLICE AFTER BEING UNJUSTLY ARRESTEDYour car or your life, nigga? Which one is replaceable?
>>565660148This is every video game character ever except the ones copying the last of us>>565660171*To videl being violently beaten
>>565660234Neither in this economy
>>565660281>This is every video game characterOnly mario but mario was never supposed to take himself seriously like sonic does.
>>565660397Sonic takes itself too seriously nowadays
>>565660397Mario does the everyman trope way better than Sonic ever will.
>>565660397In every single Pokemon game your character is a prodigy for even knowing the type match ups and all the other characters talk about what an incredible and inspiring person you are who believes in yourself. This is also true in nearly every Halo game and COD clone and they only shake it up to deconstruct the genre.
Amy's stupid ass tail placement is making this harder than it needs to be but I don't wanna redraw the whole thing
>>565660473In fairness, that was never Sonic's intention. But I think Sonic is a failed character either way. He's not an everyman nor is he a good inspirational figure in my opinion. In fact I feel as if Sonic was created by someone who doesn't understand why inspirational figures work.
Sonic being a gary stu who rarely makes unique expressions is based
>>565660473Yes but mario likes to leverage more on comedy and the absurd, sonic doesn't work because you either give him a characterization that firmts with the edge or just turn him into a lighthearted story.But sonic will always feel weird the way it is now.
>>565660489Okay but like...Master Chief has a reason why he is looked as an inspirational figure. Sonic is just inspirational because everyone likes him for no reason.
Let Ian make his Amy RPG card game, Sega!
>>565660690I thought the reason was because he's free like the wind or something
>>565660489>pokemonLmao, pokemon has a progression where the protagonist slowly trains and reaches hes the top as a trainer. Sonic is born perfect inside an edgy world and the best he goes through is minor setbacks, you guys should stop bullshitting around.Sonic is written with the buttcheeks.
>>565660690>for no reason.Okay, if Eggman, some alien, or some deity does something I guess Sonic will just sit back and do nothing then.
Master chief is helped by other characters, the cod protagonists are helped by other character, all of them have real military drama with real factions and the closest to that is archie sonic.Sonic has cheerleaders because he's perfect in every way, try again.
Sonic was born knowing how to walk and take care of himself because anything else would imply that Sonic is emotionally dependent on another being
>>565661063It didn't used to be like that. Naka once said Sonic going completely solo would make no sense because you would wonder where everyone else is at and how Sonic handled everything entirely on his own.
And before someone summons characters like the doom guy, doom never had a focus on any story, but more on gameplay. The creator of doom also shits on videogame plots because they're like the plot of a porn movies, you expect it to be there but nobody cares.
>>565660565Oh hell no Amy is built like a torta..