Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9363 - Magazine Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/>Sonic Live in Concerthttps://sonicliveinconcert.com/==Comic Release Dates==DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>568930726
>>568960748Base duofag gets first
SONEGG
We need more posters
>>568960748
Douge
>>568959205Sonic chooses between Amy and Elise and you'd expect that to be narratively relevant to Elise's death but it affects nothing. Silver's story introduces the "is it okay to sacrifice one person to save the world" which Sonic would never do, he would try to save everyone, but Silver would sacrifice someone which makes them different. You actually need to demonstrate the similarities and differences between Sonic and Silver if you want to establish Silver as a rival.Having Silver save the future by allowing Sonic to save someone but also sacrificing himself is exactly the kind of story he's made for.
>We're told the Blobians mostly live on the islands while Humans mostly live on the continents where there are big cities.>IDW continues to have blobian citizens in Central City and Station Square with no humans in sight even though those locations are supposed to be human territories....
>>568961043Krack?
>>568961104Cute n canon!
>>568960986
Shadally Shadouge Shadikal
Sonurge
>>568960647What's the world like in Sonic Chronicles
Silviona
Tails!>>568960986We'll have them in a few days when they reveal Kishimoto's next game
>>568961043How many times have you jerked off to this photo?
I ship duo x krack but she pegs him
>>568961716Get Colono on it
>>568959205Sonic chooses between Amy and Elise and you'd expect that to be related to Elise's death but it affects nothing. Silver's story introduces the "is it okay to sacrifice one person to save the world" which Sonic would never do, he would try to save everyone, but Silver would sacrifice someone which makes them different. You actually need to demonstrate the similarities and differences between them.>>568961858I agree with that theory. It's the only thing that makes Mephiles make sense. Except Elise dying releases Iblis anyway in the alternate timeline Silver is from which is a fucking retarded plothole. Like there is no reason Silver shouldn't have just been from the "Mephiles kills Elise" timeline. Pretty sure that's the only way Mephiles can bootstrap his own existence and reunite with Solaris without any plotholes.
>>568961716Much better than taildsiona
Sony is going to buy Sega after they're done raping Bungie
>>568962241Colono doesn't draw boys
>>568961716Maki Denji ship
I've been shitposting on this general for years and no one made a namefag for me :(
/sthg/ really is limitedinstead of drawing love triangles or polykino you prefer cheating and cucking
>>568961464Gotta love the Fonze
>>568962651The power of anonymity!
>>568962651cuz you’re not committed to the bit
>>568961716rape ship
>>568962651For some reason I've not been called anything despite posting one thing.
>>568962619My autoplay put on Kick Back right as I read thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMA_isZYsYQ
>>568962765terifag is much better than blossosmfag
>>568962841Hahaha imagine if Silver didn't lurch away so Fiona got more aggressive and started pumping his cock and kissing him and rubbing against him and then jumping his ear with her ear
*gulp*mmm*burp*ahhh
>vorepostingSparky came back
Your Shadow for tonight.
>Ian created Tangle to replace Amy because Amy having romantic feelings for Sonic and revolving around him was seen as a weakness to Ian.>Tangle is later revolving around Whisper with romantic feelings.Oh the irony.
https://youtu.be/LvwOUsggNqE?si=83tBefpQKDJrQiRa
>eargropingScribbles is a madman
Slut
I want a Chaotix themed orgy
It's positivity time sthg. Say something nice about a namefag you hate.
How do we stop the shounen-fication of Sonic?
>>568963642You don't hate those 2 useless OCs enough. There needs to be more pushback on them
Woefag is
>>568963965No
>>568963965I'll admit, [Insert Namefag here] isn't all that bad.
>>568963965 He's dead. You know who.
>>568963538I think Shadow is only grumpy because he needs to poo
>>568964074You take that back
https://youtu.be/lNHNSJ77K-c
Which character you want to dump with cum the most?
>>568963763What is the human equivalent of this hr violation
The true rape ship is Honine. They "rape" eachother over dominance daily. It's so common that even their marriage ended with them raping eachother over who was the groom and bride.
>>568964113Maybe he died from aids?
>>568963965I don't really hate anyone, closest would be Duofag I guess. I think I saw him genuinely talk about a Sonic game once
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhK-5N-REj4Further away, and further awayBut just don't say I didn't use my resources when it cameDown to you, I'm alone tooTo play this gameYou need rules, those chronic toolsBut it's okay, I have all day, touchéIt's easy when the rules are yours
>>568961916Only seventeen.
>>568964415Hoho
Here, have a honey the cat gif.
>>568964341>asks question>posts answer in pic rel
>>568964340>It's too late Sonic.i already made a wojak of you destroying the past and me as the Chad
>>568964341HoneyAnd I want to be Honey too~
I'm going to be wildly succesful. Fuck you /sthg/.
To Mephiles the Dark, how do I get a girlfriend?
>>568964438Most likely, as he did say "it's routine" and he had to take one when going to vacation as well. But we'll never know for 100% certain (without some serious GR4 violations)
>>568964415Nine hates everyone tho
>>568964882
>>568961205Didn't Station Square have humans in Casefiles?
>>568964778Who the fuck are these niggas
>>568964885Women find nothing hotter than dominance and power. When you see a girl you like, beat and rape her to demonstrate your power and ownership of her. If she tries to escape dont let her. She's just playing hard to get.
>>568965163Abyss the Squid, Horizont-Al and Verti-Cal, thanks
>>568964778>best theme song>gay songyou're not beating the allegations s/thg/
Have a good evening
STOP SUCKING MY DICK TANGLE OR IM GOING TO CRY FOR SURGE!
>>568965334Its a nice song ok
>>568963642To be fair, ST made Amy dispatch for the Resistance in Forces and it took a while for the comic to divest itself from that.
>>568965326
>>568965052Yesso either IDW has an actual "no humans" rule given to them by Sega or the IDW writers and artists just want Sonic to be a furry planet with no humans
>>568965587>IDW has an actual "no humans" rule given to them by SegaThat's correct
>>568965637ABT going off about "Why do we need humans?" puts that up for debate. There is a chance it's a choice. Remember, most of IDW's background is made up of OCs by whatever artist drawing an issue or people who sell off their OCs to appear in the book. Putting in humans would grind that to a halt.
>>568965904Iirc Paps said it was a rule they had to follow, and I think recently Evan said something that made it sound like they'll be allowed to start using humans soon
>>568964415
>>568966040Paps was making a guess. I don't think he really knew fully.
God do the smash skins suck shit>Here is a reference to the crystals ring, please forget the crystal ring has never appeared since SA1 and it's an useless item nowAsking for a red coat of paint for knuckles was too much to ask?
>>568966040If humans come back and start showing up in the comics, I'll be happy for the humanfags/2000fags; but I'm also gonna miss the Blobians.
>>568965334Behind the scenes doesn't count, or else we'd have Tails song being about wanting to be a pedophile
>>568966407The current direction seems to be having both coexist as background characters
>>568966407>Find the main character
>>568966474Sadly, that seems like cope if BoC is any indication. It appears to be a binary, you either get humans in the BG or blobians, no mixing. Casefiles could be vague because it's a radio drama.
The reason why the staff don't want to draw humans is because they can't charge their fans money to slip their OC in the comic if they have to draw them.Idk why you guys are pretending this is difficult to figure out.
>>568966407An entire page of background characters with more complicated designs than the entire main cast
Would you allow a mouthless fellow into your heart?
>>568966407Huh, for real I can't remember this panel.
>>568966417What are you referencing?
>>568966407>Designing OCs with tribal head gear even though idw isn't allowed to add any cultural world buildingIt's a waste. That character is literally wearing it for no reason. There is no reason to get invested in them. These are all wasted designs.
>>568966741They are all main characters of their own story anon, just like real life.Sonic and Tails were cropped out of the shot.
>>568967009I just wish they weren't so blatant and obvious about it. Like they could at least try to give an official reason why.
>>568965390What do you want from me?
This idea that Sonic should blend into the crowd is not compatible with IDW background characters not having any background information by force of Sega mandate
>>568966341The same text appears when Knuckles tries to impregnate Shade.
>>568962651Nobody cares until you avatarfag.
https://files.catbox.moe/z0caog.mp4
Eggman Negro
>jackal>jerks allAnd with this, i go to sleep. Night night.
>>568967259Time to hand mine over to IDW to be a main character like everyone else.
>>568967656Night, other me.
I'm surprised Evan drew her wheelchair OC into IDW since she already drew her into Archie meaning an OC who officially appeared in Archie snuck into idw
>>568965501IDW didn’t have to start from Forces in the first place, that was a choice by Ian.
>>568967736night fi'but don't kiss yourself
>>568967415Friendship
ABT wasn't wrong. In the current format IDW works with, adding humans to these stories wouldn't really improve anything
>>568964051Big headed, boastful, arrogant, vain, defensive, inept, invasive, egotistical, greedy, lazy, obnoxious, vain, pathetic, defiant, egotistical, hedonistic, I can go on.
>>568968008True, they would need a good writer to see any improvement in IDW
>>568968008Yeah it's the least of IDWs problems.
>>568968008If they insist on using adventure era Sonic then it should look like the adventure era games.
>>568968008No 1 human enjoyer here, I agree, they wouldn't add anything.
>>568968008Abt is a retard and flynn makes him twice as retarded.
>>568966341She's just too fucking powerful.
>>568968008People don't ask for humans to improve the story. They just want the world of Sonic to make sense
>>568968008The only relevant humans are the robotniks
>>568967315Silver is cool
>>568968225How would that improve the worldbuilding exactly? It's not like we have a clear map or locations or a clear division of where humans live and where blobmobiworldians live or if there's any context that makes them live together or cultures. If you ask for humans they're just going to slap human background characters and call it a day. Fixing the worldbuilding requires effort Sega doesn't want to put in either
>>568966407>but I'm also gonna miss the Blobians.I won't. Good riddance. Forces and IDW ruined the whole idea.
>>568963642It’s funny because Tangle wasn’t supposed to just end up as Whisper’s pet lol, they had no idea what else to do with her so she was absorbed into Whisper’s “development”
>>568968424The problem isn't the inclusion of humans, it's the lack of them that cause worldbuilding issues.I mean, take Shadow. His entire fucking backstory hinges on humans, yet you never see any. Bit weird, innit?
>>568968424I'm just going to steal the argument that humans impact world building more than blobians do since aside from Echidnas there are no world building implications when you see a blobian vs a human who's demographic alone will tell you what kind of location you're in
Sex?
>>568968192IDW doesn't look like Adventure Sonic to me. It looks like just an expansion of the Forces world to me
I don't care either way but I'm genuinely tired of seeing mobians with heavily characterized designs just being background fodder. Random background characters dressed like warriors or rock stars os stupid
>>568968008It would make the world of the comic more visually interesting and fleshed out having more species variety than just having nothing but furries everywhere
Kill counts
>>568968694I don't think there would be any implications either. It would make things even more confusing because they would write in and draw Station Square full of humans in a random story and you'll be completely contextless about why and when things are happening in this familiar Station Square
>>568968873It's just IDW artists are having fun.
>>568968424You can tell a lot about a human from how they look and how they dress which is usually congruent with their location AND their personality.Blobians mostly look the same and dress like whatever the fuck. This may be a shocking revelation to some, but humans are just more diverse than blobians.
>>568969025Not really. Throw in a "check out how they've rebuilt station square" and it's problem solved.Hell, knowing Ian's boner for unnecessary explanations, he'd probably have several pages dedicated to it.
>>568968008Radical position: furries make Sonic stand out less and are automatically bad. They shouldn't exist unless they're a major character. Loony tunes tends to do it this way. The adventure era didn't this way. It only changed after Boom and Forces. You can argue that the modern games changed the world but it's a moot point since IDW uses the modern setting.
>>568969161I guess at most we could have normal looking humans so you know this is Sonic's America I mean United Federation and in another story there'd be some tribal black humans and you'd know they're in Mazuri or something but I don't see how that minimal amount of context enriches the world of IDW a whole lot.At best, it solves the issue of OCs visually failing to stand out
>>568969025IDW is supposed to be canon to games, so places like Station Square needs humans just like the games. This is not up for debate.
News tomorrow?
>>568969187It's not so much furries inherently making Sonic stand out less, it's more that every OC they shove into the background is "overdesigned" when compared to the main cast because they all have various hair types, colors, clothing, accessories etc.That's the core issue. They just can't help themselves.
>>568969161>Blobians mostly look the same and dress like whatever the fuck.Even this point could've been solved if there was a guideline as to what they look like depending on the situation.
Can you find the main character in this panel?
>>568968008 I bet ABT just doesn’t want to draw anime humans like the current ST style for them. They would have to look like this in the regular Sonic comic.
>>568969530None
Why the fuck is IDW full of 3000s platformer protagonists? In Archie there was a clear context for the types of mobians you see everywhere. In the movies and Sonic X it's all humans because Sonic was an alien. In the 2000s they made it all humans to probably save model space. Now it's just anthros for some reddit theory crafting bullshit
>>568969530They look okay in this picture because they're all in low detail. Look at this on the other hand.
>>568969151They can habe fun by being consistent with the fucking franchise. It's like if a Mario comic had the Mushroom Kingdom full of humans who look like Mario and no Toads in sight. It's disrespecting the setting and you would think people who are supposed to be fans would know fucking better since they've spent years bitching about the lack of consistency in this franchise.
>>568969530holy eyebrows
>>568969530Low detail background Forces-Avatar filler.This is fine.>>568969713This is just a straight up DeviantArt collab. I hate every OC in this.
You guys know the real reason is because IDW is stuck with the 2 worlds mandate right? That is the only reason.
Neo Future Sage but it's Yuki Nagito (Haruhi Suzimiya) Endless 8 driving Eggman Nega insane
>>568969779I would rather have some funny looking colorful OCs in the background than bland humans that don't enrich the comic in any way just for the sake of consistency.
There are some anons in here twisting themselves into a pretzels trying to not just accept the fact that these are other people's OCs they're shoving in the background and they're getting paid to do it.
>>568969891Ian this is the 7th week in a row you've blamed mandates in class.
>>568969978We know, ABT.
>>568970023Reboot Archie was almost entirely humans. Why would he lie about it in this case? Par Casey said the same thing. The movies had to follow the two worlds mandate and it was lifted in late 2022. Before IDW was declared canon.
>>568969713These are people's OCs thrown into the comics out of nepotism and now the characters are owned by Sega.
I thought we love Ring Girl and her wolf boyfriend
OCs are dumb because they will never be as cool as Sonic
I think something else you guys are intentionally overlooking is the fact that no one on IDW can actually draw humans properly.
>>568969978Background OCs only enroch the setting when they're actually allowed to. We are literally cognizant of the fact that no background OC in IDW has a backstory or a personality or lore unless they go through Sega. So it's just an art museum of nothing. They are no less bland than humans and they have the added negative of making the main characters look weirdly simple
>>568970026>Annoucers
>>568969891And do you know it's likely complete bullshit because they just want to insert OCs in the comic and make a side hustle by having fans pay to have their OCs in the background?
>>568969978When there so many colorful animal OCs in the background that bleeds in with the main cast, it becomes bland. When you have nothing but stick figure cartoons animals just like Sonic it becomes bland
>>568969187Looney tunes is a bad comparison because the famous shorts are usually pretty limited in their cast (and usually the animals outnumber the humans or the humans are off screen), and the early shorts had animal people as the standard and used live action/caricatures for the very rare humans. LT was also kinda working on Sonic rules where it was a binary, either it was humans or animals, with some crossovers.Porky Pig's Feat is funny as fuck.
>>568970463>make a side hustle by having fans pay to have their OCs in the backgroundThis sounds like it breaks the rules of the artists' contracts with Sega. Why hasn't Sega stepped in and done something about it?
Yeah man humans are bland we should replace all Pokemon trainers with talking animals that totally won't fuck with the setting Toads are too blonde so it should be Yoshi variants everywhere The entire background populace having unique designs has no negatives
Perfect world
>>568970649>Hey Sega, why aren't you doing anything about the Sonic comic>"We have a Sonic comic?????"
Crazy how Iizuka made Shadow but is also a two worlds fag.
>>568970649Because they aren't doing it publicly. And regardless, it's another flavor of Ian having fans pay him to answer questions on his podcast.
>>568969978Jingling keys argument. There is objectively 0 depth to IDW background OCs. This isn't like Archie where a tribe of wolf people in the background actually meant that there is a canon wolf tried
>>568969626>noneI'll give you a hint, he has an article of clothing that the other blobians don't.This is unironically the best display of Mimic's power in the entire comic, and it was done by Evan of all people.
>>568970857Is there anyone saying anything about putting their OC into the comic or is this an assumption?
>>568970750Perfect world has way fewer blobians which would make them more special and unique
>>568970932Oh it's the dog thing with glasses on his head.I maintain that Mimic and Duo was totally wasted.
These super hero comics are so bland, why don't all the civilians dress up in super hero costumes
>>568971001People have had their OCs put in the comic said they had to be sold. I remember two occasions of this being explained.
So lively
>>568971174And nobody decided to record this info so that they can blast the IDW staff with it?Considering how much this place hates IDW you'd think someone here would have done that.
>>568971173>>568970652Alright I get it.
IDWfags be like "I fixed it"
>>568971192Why are we using default Puyo art style Arle as an example of current Sonic style humans?
>>568971328Funnily this is exactly what happened with the later YGO series. Every mother fucker got the MC hair.
>>568971230>>568971431Comparison is a little unfair because post Reboot Archie had worldbuilding while IDW has nothing which is the crux of the matter. As long as IDW has no worldbuilding nothing will be fixed, you'll get humans in the blandest possible way
>human discussiontime to push my "human blobian" Billy Hatched humanoid agenda
Why can't everyone in Dragon Ball just be Saiyans?Why can't everyone in Naruto just have a fox demon inside of them and have whisker marks to show it?
The mushroom kingdom if it i was good and not bland
>>568971328kek
>>568971328HA
Weasely from AOSTH announcing HEXAeco and Meteortech, awesome>>568971575I know, just gushing over how awesome Archie is
>>568971619Mushroom Kingdom is literally already this but with toads since they don't let them have unique features other than color anymore.
>>568971602We should just eliminate background civilians from all media because they are bland and that is bad. I like looking at exciting things only. Everyone should be exciting all the time. I hate when I'm watching a godzilla movie and there's humans in it. Why can't they all just be giant monsters? If it breathes it should be a giant monster. I don't understand, humans are boring.
>>568970652>we should replace all Pokemon trainers with talking animals that totally won't fuck with the setting.>Toads are too bland so it should be Yoshi variants everywherePeople liked both of those things though.
>>568971696You can still tell Mario is the main character.
>>568971602>whisker marksWell there's Naruto and his two kids. And their kids will likely have 'em too.
>>568971776>I hate when I'm watching a godzilla movie and there's humans in itOkay but this is true though
>>568971575The comic would be fixed visually and in presentation
>>568971379I thought the PNG looked good
>>568971665Gumball is an actual example of a setting that takes advantage of filling the background with random bullshit. IDW isn't.
>>568971836I guess the populace in the city must be Kaiju.
>>568971785>that totally won't fuck with the setting.Isn't PMD operating on two worlds logic?
Sonic and Mario have sex with each other
Enemies are the only ones that matter in the end
>>568971832They're the kids of the main character, though. That's clearly different.
Pokemon if it had good character design and world building. Humans literally don't make sense. Why is there a single typeless species of mammals in a world of pokemon? Humans should at least be normal type or something. This is just straight up nonsense. I've fixed it so now instead of boring humans we have several races of talking animals because humans are bland
>>568971593I feel like the issue is that a lot of fans see the Sonic cast as less like people and more like super powered beings who can't be mundane. But that's not how the series treats them.
>>568970649Becauae technically no contracts are being broken as long as the transactions are done in private, unless you can prove intent of breaking said contract which is basically impossible in this scenario.
>>568972267Vanilla is a mistake and I will never think otherwise.
>>568971819Yeah, because Mario's not a toad.
>>568972267Vanilla is a fuckable slut and i will never think otherwise.
>>568972223>>568971776You're not making a great case here you're just sounding autistic because you want your human background characters that change nothingThe issue with the OCs isn't even that it makes no sense they're also worldians, it's just that they're OCs, they could simply make them all different shades of flat grayish colors with no accessories and the problem would be solved
>>568972184I suppose. Shame him and his hot wife have been effectively shelved as the story continues atm.
>>568972335And Sonic is not a human. See? You're getting it.
>>568972148The only character that matters is Sonic. Everyone else is just an npc.
>>568972267I think Vanilla is fine, but I think the way she's being written right now by all the westoid writers is indicative of the exactly same problem every other character in the series is currently suffering through.
>>568972267This threw me off desu.>>568972330I might be inclined to believe this.
>>568972267The humans should have been the mundaneThey were the mundane actuallyAnd then we got Vanilla and sure an outlierBut then she became the norm
>>568972047Yeah it's like an isekai, and it didn't fuck up Pokemon's setting, lol.The real problem is that one-worldfags don't want that for Sonic.
>>568972418I honestly don't care if humans show up in IDW I just hate whenever people try to come up with some rationalization for it. Just say you want to see furries and move on. There is no cartoon setting that this logic doesn't sound retarded in.
>>568972280Basically this. You would need proof of the transactions taking place and we know the IDW staff should be smart enough not to have it ALL public.
>>568967009Is that true? I mean people having to pay, I already knew they put fan OCs in though I thought the only thing they lost was the copyright to the designs.
>>568972463I mean yeah, I wasn't arguing the point. I just said Mushroom Kingdom already looks like that pic but with toads.
Boring mobians should never exist, that is why background mobians are bad. This is my supreme logic.If a single mobian cannot cary an epic action adventure story then CUT IT. >but what aboutCUT HIM TOO
Sonic should be a human actually. Fuck off with that furry shit
Name some better game franchises than Sonic
The human question is so funny; it's Occidental and Oriental autism. Lovely.
>>568971285What would be the point in recording it and bringing it up?No official contract breach would have been made. The argument here isn't that they're breaking the rules, it's that they're using the comic as a means to milk the fanbase for more money and by virtue of how they're doing it, completely destroying any kind of logical world building.
>>568972267I don't mind them being mundane with no powers, I just want them to be rare and unique which would make each animal character special
>>568972764Tony Hawk'sDevil May CryBurnoutThat's about it.
I think overall I prefer Modern Sonic Design, But I occasionally go back to CD and the intro for it, that's probably the best vie and look for sonic, perfect blend of cute, cool and confidence. It's a shame how some people will take inspiration from that intro but never how he expresses himself, he feels like he's on a mission and nothing can stop him seeing through that adventure awaiting till the end. Not enough people really potray this with Sonic.Go imagine if we had a Sonic Anime, OVA is the closest we'll ever get.>Sonic XIs mostly lame.
I only fuck humans. Only. I would never fuck any species that isn't a human. That's disgusting. There is no species more sexy than humans.
>>568972687They need to exist as a matter of course because the islands are where they primarily live. Stories on the islands should still have them and little to no humans. But the problem is we're ignoring the rest of the world where we've established EXPANSIVE human territories so that we can continue to just shove blobians everywhere and pretend like the humans don't exist (except Eggman, don't ask questions).
>>568972418They mass exist in places where humans should and we literally had an artist from the comic denying the need for humans. The OC complaint exists because they want blobians everywhere and breaking the setting in the process. And it's likely no secret that they're Archie/Mobius fags who believe Sonic's world should be furryland.
What if Mixtape was about Sonic characters
>>568972878I don't give a fuck about the islands. I hate boring mobians. There should never be a boring mobian. If I see a boring mobian I see red. Bomb the islands. Get rid of them. Every single mobian should be interesting. If they aren't interesting they are shit. The echidnas in SA1 are my absolute limit.
>>568972967Sonic Rush
>>568971173>Batman should be the only giant bat anthro in Gothem, so the audience knows he's the main character!
>>568972878Man the mainline Sonic's world is so fucking boring not gonna lie
>>568972618Isn't that ultimately the same thing?
>>568973021The echidnas in SA1 that were literally all a single model multiplied 600 times? Your limit is sky high, brother.
>>568972618>I mean people having to payAnon, ABT charges 120+ dollars just to draw a single character he can do in less than an hour. They are definitely charging for that. Especially with how deliberately complex those background designs are.You really think these artists wouldn't just do the absolute bare minimum unless they're getting paid extra? This is the same comic where you can go multiple issues with completely blank backgrounds and the writer forgot how to write the main character.
>>568973076This but unironicallySonic worldbuilding is very poor and not even that much worth fighting for
>boring mobians shouldn't existif you insult Gardon we're gonna have a problem
>>568969713Hilarious how the original owner of the most blatant OC got mad at people calling it a girl.
>>568973132They exist to world build. which is already pushing it. the fact that they're all the same model is DOGSHIT
>>568971192>>568971379Here's a better one
>>568973076Yes, we know, you love Archie. Go read that instead of expecting the main series to suddenly transform into it.
>>568962351the same anon again, this is mostly speculation but i think mephiles needs a freshly formed iblis rather than one that's a fully formed thing to fuse cuz when he fuses it's random flames. it being from tears of despair might also mean it's more potent/stronger. but this is mostly relying on visual cues and speculation for a stroy that was most likely an incomplete draft.
>>568972418Or just have FEWER blobians, that's the real problem. Them being colorful wouldn't be a problem if they are a smaller minority and not be everywhere
Characters for this feel?
>>568973312Sonic Channel Elise so good it got people forgetting how fucking terrible 06 was
>>568973187I HATE GARDON. i REMEMBER WHEN i FIRST SAW THAT BORING kOALA AND MY FIRST THAUGHT WAS THAT HE BELONGS IN SOME DEAD 2000S PLATFORMER NOT SONIC. BELONGS IN JACK AND DAXTER OR SOMETHING NOT SONICI KNEW HE WOULD BECOME THE EXCUSE FOR MORE BORING MOBIANS LIKE HIM
>>568973395Her I recon.
do people who cum their pants over the sonic unleashed cgi intro even play the game
>>568972520>The humans should have been the mundane>They were the mundane actuallySonic just wanted some popcorn, man.
>>568973480No because the game fucked sucked.>But the day stagesAt 10 fps? Fuck off
If the background population aren't humans, it's not fucking Sonic. End of story.
>>568973524What is that thing
>>568972854>Devil May CryLet that nigga cry.
>Vanillathat worthless coombait pisses me off. She started that whole "mobians can be civilians" bullshit. Worthless character only loved by coomers.
>>568973410Aside from the fact that 06 is a technical disaster, I genuinely never hated it. It's the last game we got any good character development in, with Unleashed having at least a little. After that everything went to the most bland shit possible, and now we have Ian's Frontiers shit instead and I'd rather have the bland shit back.
The background OC shit pisses me off because it reminds me if how ponyfags used to have whole fucking fanfics and claim "ownerships" of reoccurring background designs.This shit just absolutely REEKS of the same exact autism, especially when Lanolin is 1-for-1 a Derpy for IDW.Go ahead and ban me for GR14 you know I'm fucking right.
>>568973615Guardian robot from Fleetway
>>568973539>Sonic struggling to keep ahead of Eggman>Eggman: *gay ballet run*
>>568973670I wouldn't know that man I wasn't a brony like you
>>568973410funny XD hahaha
>>568973720>>568973539Eggman's a lot faster than we think.
>>568973658Oh I'm cryin about how bad the netflix series is, yeahLuckily as a Sonic fan I've had experience of seeing terrible adaptations
>>568973395rougekatellabunnie
When did you learn that she's only attracted to him in the english dub
>>568973758And yet, we both meet eachother here.
>>568973670>LanolinI never thought about that lol
>>568973350I think it just had to be from Elise crying. But I hate the Egg Carrier exploding plotline. I'm thinking it actually only exists because it's the "main" timeline the game takes place in. Before somehow everyone switches to a second timeline where he saves Elise and we just kinda ignore that fact.
>>568967009Evan Stanley and Gigi Dutreix and that Starline fangirl have complained about drawing humans.Gigi at least still tries though.
>>568973594The framerate is only a serious problem in Jungle Joyride, at least on Xbox 360. Besides, we have the recomp now if it bothers you
>>568973824Maybe if they named it “Devil May Run Up On A Nigga” or sum shit then it probably be cool
>>568973312Have this one.
>>568973131They aren’t paying cash for it though. Just an empty promise of seeing their OC in a background lol with the addition that they no longer own it and Sega can do whatever they want with it.>>568973137Commission work is different from what you’re trying to claim. That sounds like illegal shit that would get you fired and blacklisted immediately. Do you have any proof?
>>568973137>Anon, ABT charges 120+ dollars just to draw a single character he can do in less than an hour. They are definitely charging for that. Especially with how deliberately complex those background designs are. We know how much IDW staff get paid though it is not that much.
the super genesis wave was mina's fault
If you want humans so badly why don't you get hired by IDW as an artist hmmmm?
>>568974003If you think about it, Elise getting killed was the best way to wrap up the "don't cry" thing with minimal damage to the timestream.
>>568973670>Lanolin is 1-for-1 a Derpy for IDW.I cant believe I am just now realizing this years later and from a fucking 4chan post.
>>568973720>>568973816>Sonic at that very moment.https://youtu.be/xCPA4DHbi4w
>>568974156zonic's fault
Explain to me why IDW staff charge way more for comms than what they expect their employer to charge them.
>Penders - Obsessed with teen drama and writing everyon OOC>Flynn - Obsessed with references and writing everyone OOC>Evan - Obsessed with mental illnesses and writing everyone OOC>Pontac and Graff - Didn't care at allWhat the fuck is this franchise man
>>568967009So if enough people were to request human ocs they could do it
>>568974168Do you know how shit the pay is? It makes you lose all desire to get better look at Paps.
>>568973670The Sonic fanbase were proto-bronies.
>>568974276Make Pontaff Great Again
>>568973670how is Lanolin a 1-1 with Derpy??
A third of the IDW staff do not even draw humans that well.Also despite drawing humans well ABT is mad that fans want them back.
>>568974276I can cut evan a break she writes Amy PERFECTLY in character
>>568973350I always assumed Elise crying properly unbroke the seal while killing her improperly broke it causing Iblis to come out in a way that couldn't be fused with. The game doesn't explain anything so it's up in the air though.
>>568974003No Anon. When Sonic saw the Egg Carrier crash, he was watching himself escaping the Egg Carrier with Elise but just didn't know. They didn't actually change the past there.
>>568974414No, Amy is way better in Sonic X than in her writing.
>>568974276Pontac and Graff were actually not bad choices and simply did the job Sega told them to do
>>568974182Well yes but in Silver's timeline the Day of Disaster happens when Elise dies on Eggman's ship. There are 3 total timelines in Sonic 06. We just switch to a 3rd one after Sonic saves Elise and we never acknowledge this fact.
>>568974260Supply over demand, they use their art credits to advertise themselves.
>>568974487Pontac has a stronger career than Flynn.
>>568974452I thought the same thing.
remember that really well drawn web comic where derpy is a delivery woman and flies into some guy's apartment and accidentally rides his cock until he cums
>>568974120>Commission work is different from what you’re trying to claim.It really isn't for these people. At the end of the day it's just a job for them to make money.>That sounds like illegal shit that would get you fired and blacklisted immediately.No it's not. What would even give you that impression? As long as you or the business cannot prove they are breaking contract then it's perfectly legal. Morally dubious but legally sound.>Do you have any proof?None that I've bothered to gather but I've seen people on here, discord and Twitter mention they got their OCs in the comic through the artists.
>>568974502Sounds like corporate cocksucking.Corporations deserve more love and attention than fans
>>568974003Why did the Egg Carrier malfunction and crash again?
>>568974408ABT honestly pissed me off with his faux-intellectual "why do you want humans" twitter moment.Framing it as a genuine intrigue only to immediately shit on everyone's opinion of wanting humans in IDW. What a dick.
>>568974623>>>/mlp/
Lanolin's boobs did nothing wrong.
>>568974276>Pontac and Graff - Didn't care at allThis is ultimately why I can forgive them. Penders wanted to practically own the series, Ian hates the game writing and wants the series to be Archie again, and Evan... I dunno, Evan could be worse. I feel bad for Silver fans that have to put up with her. But Pontaff were open about their limited knowledge of the series, so I didn't expect much from them.
>>568970594>spoilerOUCH AH OOH AH OOH OUCH EECH EE AA OHH OUCH eeh aahh ooh .. ahh... eee... aah... ouh...
>>568974487It was Sonic Team's fault for giving bad notes to Pontac and Graff on how to write the characters in the English dub. Pontac and Graff just did what they were told to do and unlike Ian Flynn, they never tried to change the characters to fit their personal opinions
>>568974832It's so ironic that /sthg/ are jap purists who demand writers should conform to the franchise and Sega's demands, and yet Pontac and Graff of all people did exactly that.
I think that most of you should actually learn what IDW staff get paid before you run your mouth.https://www.creatorresource.com/page-rate-finder-comic-book-publishers/There are 20 pages in a Sonic comic.
>>568974468Okay but Silver is actually from a 3rd timeline where Iblis is released by the crash.>Egg carrier crash timeline (Silver's timeline, Shadow creates Mephiles 1)>Sonic saves Elise/ Mephiles 2 kills Sonic timeline (Shadow creates Mephiles 2?)>Solaris erased timelineAm I crazy
>>568974832>>568974968After seeing how much Evan Stanley hates typical sonic writing, I miss Pontaff
>>568974406Background character that was given a starring role. Due to online popularity.
>>568960647>#9363What are we going to do when we reach 10000?
>>568974968>and Sega's demandsNo one wants this. What /sthg/ asks is for it to fit the series identity, and some generally assume that Sonic Team would want to follow that identity seeing as they were involved in the creation process in the first place. SEGA higher ups who aren't creatives being influenced by what they think will sell more or SoA influence isn't Sonic Team.
>>568963763Silver and Fiona
>>568974742They convinced people that she was a good character, and that was the worst thing ever.
>>568975161We should all totally kill ourselves!
>>568974305I'm not joking, probably. In fact I almost guarantee it if you shill out enough money.
>>568975161Nothing.There won't be a new game to discuss.The comic will still suck.The #10000 project link in OP is dead.It'll be just another thread.Sorry.
>>568975161We're supposed to be working on the "#10000 Project" https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4rBut I might the only one who remembers about it, no one has talked about it in months. I'm trying to draw something for it though at least, maybe activity will pick up as we get closer
I want to open a Sonic comic and be reminded of COOL SONIC GAMES like Sonic adventure 2, not NON CANON CARTOONS and not SHITTY SONIC GAMES like Forces
>>568975323What was the #10,000 project?
>>568975271
>>568975161>>568975354 (Me)lol the pastebin was deleted. Check the thread on /fast/ if you want to see what it was I guess
>>568975457Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
>>568975094Same here>>568975193>SEGA higher-upsDoes this mean that there are people at SEGA who have power even over Takashi Iizuka and tell him what direction to take the writing in, including the dubs?
>>568975161Mass namefag orgy followed by a suicide pact.
>>568975193>What /sthg/ asks is for it to fit the series identity,You're gonna have to be more specific because Sonic's identity is another big can of worms
>>568975193People just want a good or decent writer who respects what's there and likes the series, not retards who couldn't care less about it or being rebellious or wanting to turn the series into their personal fanfic.
>>568975584Tbh that comprises nearly everyone who tries to write here and sthg hated nearly every writefag.
>>568975451See>>568975510But basically one big art collabo for everyone to add something to
>>568975543Obviously SEGA has corpos in suits who listen to the guys in their statistics and market research department who said "Hey I think what Sonic needs is more kiddy humor more meta jokes and less characters because that will make more money" so the corpos tell Sonic Team to do that.
>>568975408This but unironically.
>>568975547Where should we meet up? The Sonic concert in Jonestown?
I like the story of Sonic Colors a lot.Ama.
>>568975543>Does this mean that there are people at SEGA who have power even over Takashi Iizuka and tell him what direction to take the writing in, including the dubs?Yes. Obviously. Did you think he's the CEO of SEGASammy?>>568975583It isn't, the series was originally conceived with very clear characteristics and ideas. It's fine if you enjoy alternate interpretations though, I don't mind, I just don't like the original identity to be erased by people claiming it never existed>>568975584Right
>>568975817The story is nothign so there is nothing to ask
>>568975723But is Sonic Team obligated to obey the corpos or is it just advice they give to Sonic Team?
>I want it to be like Sonic>Sonic as a franchise:yeah /sthg/ doesn't know what it wants
>>568975857Sonic "original identity" was to be a cash grabbing mascot made to rival Mario and the people who made Sonic like that (Naka, Oshima, Yasuhara) aren't around and haven't been for a long time and are not interested in Sonic anymore.
>>568974805Beats the Porky/Crazy Daffy tag teamBeats Bugs "He can get out of anything" BunnyWhat Sonic characters could escape the Broken Arms Hotel under his watch?
>there are people in here who think Iizuka and Kishimoto have ultimate power over Sonic just because their leadsOnce again, I am reminded how autistic and stupid some people on here are
>>568975857Iizuka is the head of Sonic Team. He has authority over the creative decisions and as producer, he can choose exactly which Sonic Team employees he wants to work on a new Sonic game
>>568975928The corpos are literally their bosses of course they have to obey.
Sonic characters for this feel?https://youtu.be/SdsJDLSI_Mo
>>568976109I legitimately feel like I'm talking to children on here sometimes. Like I've genuinely thought about reporting some posts on here for being underaged in the past few months.
>>568975817>I like the story of Sonic Colors a lot. AMAWhat did Sonic Colors mean by this?
>>568975758Over international waters.
>>568976287Starline implanted into Surge.
>>568975702Would've been fun desu.
i admire and fear people who rewrite an entire sentence in the quote arrow instead of just auto pasting it. Dutiful psychopaths the lot of you
>>568976396>Starline implanted into Surge.Did I miss something in the comics??
>>568975928SEGA literally pays their paycheck and publishes their games. Of course Sonic Team has to listen to them.
Why do I remember espio having an indian accent
>>568976109Who's saying that? I always see them being called retards who don't know or anything.
>>568976398It still could be. Plenty of time to revive it and preparehttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>>568976418>i admire and fear people who rewrite an entire sentence in the quote arrow instead of just auto pasting it. Dutiful psychopaths the lot of youIf you weren’t new here, you’d know that’s called a greentext, and anons here know how to copy/paste.
>>568975817What do you refer to when you say "story"? I think the cutscenes in Colors are bland, and I find the English dialogue bad. I like what Tails does during those cutscenes, at least. But there is nothing very exciting about them, and all the events that happen aren't taken seriously and are quickly forgotten, like whatever was going on with the mind control ray or what Eggman did with the moon or what was that thing that destroyed everything again? All this stuff is somehow going on and none of it matters because the game doesn't want you to care, so it's quickly forgotten. To a lot of people that's everything the story is. But I think the story is also told through the world design, and I think that Colors does that aspect of storytelling better than any other Sonic game>>568976106Being partially made to make money or be commercially competitive doesn't mean that it doesn't have an identity. The original creators eventually leaving the series also doesn't mean that their ideas should be abandoned, nor that the people they worked with later didn't learn from them>>568976257He's not powerless, but that doesn't mean there aren't people above him. He's not that powerful in the grand scheme of things. People like to attribute everything to him, but that's not the reality. He has said very clearly that he doesn't like Sonic Boom, for example
>>568976108>What Sonic characters could escape the Broken Arms Hotel under his watch?Not a single fucking one.
I intentionally misquote people on here just to force them to reply to me so they can correct me. Makes me feel like I can control them.
>What a life! Never a dull moment... And that's the way I like it!
>>568974832That's also why the comics have so much bad characterization. Sonic Team is bad at explaining things.
>>568976695Sometimes I can completely agree with someone and I’ll still bait them anyway just to see if they’ll snap.It’s amazing how they’ll fall for it more often than not.
>>568976418If your typing speed is fast enough on mobile it's actually about the same amount time.
>>568976278>>568976443Man. So does this mean that Amy's character being ruined in the English dubs is the fault of Sega higher-ups who think that westerners want her to no longer love Sonic? Is Ian Flynn not the one to blame after all?
Why are you fags acting like Sonic can have any story that doesn't consist of bad thing happen into Sonic saves the day? That's it. I've summarized every single Sonic anything ever. The other characters don't matter. Sonic is the Goku of this universe and it's everyone else's job to job until Sonic fixes things.
>>568976573Not him but did you know that "greentexting" predates 4chan and that outside of 4chan it's just called quoting because it being green is just 4chan's CSS? Maybe you did, but I find it funny when I see people who don't and act like it's le secret club 4chins hacker meme
>>568976853Sometimes I don’t know what the hell anyone is talking about but pretend to be pissed off anyway to farm engagement and derail the thread.
>>568976967You're racist
Sonic tanks lightning
>>568976874It's probably both. Corporate Murrica doesn't want certain specific groups reproducing.
Sonic and Tails should have worn a McLaren version of this
>>568976539I'll try to finish my drawing in the next few days. Hope someone updates the OP. We should talk about it more
>>568976573I'm talking about when you can tell they literally rewrote the entire sentence from scratch
>>568976636I like all of that especially the premise and limited cast.
I ate too much hamborgar
>>568977360Whisper...
>>568977258Do you like that it doesn't really do anything with its ideas like the mind control stuff? That doesn't sound right to me, but you do you>and limited castHow do you feel about the DS version then? And the secret extra boss after the end? I prefer those aspects of the DS version personally
>>568977360Same here
>>568963530that's not me.
>>568977408I love how that lady on the right became a memetic transphobe before this was posted.
>>568976827Shadow has the most mandates out of all the characters and the reason should be obvious (he's Takashi Iizuka's pet character). The other characters lack clear writing guidelines which explains why IDw is so bad at writing them but this doesn't exonerate Ian and Evan. I hate this double standard Sonic Team has for Shadow and the rest of the characters
>>568977448The mind control ray never leading to any fight is the biggest blunder of the story and the second biggest blunder of Sonic Lost World's story.I dislike the DS version story due to too much bloat. I believe the incredibly limited cast so late into the series was a legitimate charm.Frontiers almost has this but somehow ruins it with the constant references.
Reminder the former IDW editor said that if you do not struggle to pay bills you are evil.
>>568974646I’m already aware of people getting their OCs into the comic, nothing they said indicated they had to pay though. Only that they forfeited their rights. Deegeemin also got into trouble for letting it out there that they accepted OCs into the background through discord shit after people started talking. I think you’re just assuming shit.
>>568977574If Shadow didn't have mandates he'd probably spend every appearance waxing poetic about the meaning of life, sucking Sonic's cock, and defending trannies.
>>568977574Evan wanted Shadow to try to kill someone who was not an immediate threat.Why?Because it would be cool.She wanted him to assault a random civilian to do it.
>>568975161a better question would be if anyone really cares about this milestone anymore.
>>568977684Interesting
>>568977825Yeah I bet he struggles real hard with bills.
>>568977918The real problem is that the writers do not want to be writing for children.
>>568976636>He's not powerless, but that doesn't mean there aren't people above him. He's not that powerful in the grand scheme of things. People like to attribute everything to him, but that's not the reality. He has said very clearly that he doesn't like Sonic Boom, for example>>568977113>It's probably bothDon't be afraid to give Sega feedback on the tone and the dubs for the games. Unless you voice your opinions, the Sega higher-ups will keep on forcing Sonic Team to make the writing so different and dysfunctional in the English dubs
Someone once said Evan likes to write Shadow as Wolverine and I can't unsee it
>>568977090Man, I forgot how weird some Fleetwood sonic villians can be.Even normal characters can be weird in Fleetwood like those cheap super mario knockoff called the marxio brothers or the guy who's a pirate, that had a rubberhouse cat in their crew.The main original chicks were fine though, like sally, tekno and ebony.
>>568978165Fleetway seems like a funny book.
>>568978165>fleetwood
>>568978165Marxio Brothers work nicely as Eggman Empire's business side workers
>>568978165Got fleetwood?
>>568976108Whatever character actually decides to pay the hotel bill.
Mobian sports
>>568977574They have mandates for him but don't directly explain him either.
>>568978165>FleetwoodMiniplenty provided new issue biweekly, then increased the amount to monthly reprints, approved by miniluv to support minipax efforts.
>>568978314Now here I go againI see the crystal visionsI keep my visions to myselfIt's only me who wants to wrap around your dreamsAnd have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Dreams of loneliness
>>568974742Why do they put so many highlights in this piece? Also, where is the fucking light source for all of this?
Someone posted a Sonicguru image of Zeena riding Sonic's dick here once without a source
>>568975928Yuji Naka used to be in Takashi Iizuka's current role, and he was fired from SEGA
>>568978165I wonder how long any of the Sonic's would last against the BB?
Does anyone have more pics like this? Like it’s drawn from a younger character?
>>568979156BB?
>>568979038Have you tried IB?
>>568979156The Wind would win and save everyone and solve everything
>>568964341Artist?
>>568978730They have mandates for him because they'd probably have him job even worse if they didn't. I could easily see Shadow getting humbled by KNuckles over and over again, only to then get humbled by Sonic, have an existential crisis, then end up Tails tier at best. Cheering on the sidelines while Sonic solves all the problems like he always does. As the only character in the entire story with any agency.
sonic is the storm that is approaching
>>568979267Big Brother, the Party leader. Rumor has it he doesn't actually exist and was created by the party to give the masses something to worship and bait resistance to rally against, but that's just a traitorous oldspeak.
>>568979616Sonic is the shitty game starring discount Superman. Only every foe is Doomsday, and Sonic doesn't die.
>>568979439maris?
>>568979616That song applies better to Solaris>>568979581@freaky_frohicky on twitter
>>568977828Why in the world would the artists NOT charge for extra work?
>>568979705He is fodder to even the weaker versions of Sonic
I have screenshots from years ago on certain discord that ABT and Evan were in that I could drop on here and it would turn into a gigantic dlamewar that'd most likely spread to Twitter and the only reason why I dont drop them is because I feel a supreme sense of catharthis when I tell you faggots how things are and you only realize I'm right months ahead of time.FYI I'm the same anon who said that Evan was having a melty behind the scenes almost 2 whole months before she had her public bridge burning with most the fandom.
>>568980084kitty titty
>>568980219And other Bullshit I made up
>>568980219Likely story
>>568979178I guess?
>>568980219>haha I have privileged information and im not sharingVery cool anon. That achieves absolutely nothing but proves to us that you're a bigger faggot.
JUST WANT TO FUCK SONIA
>>568980219>that I could drop on here and it would turn into a gigantic dlamewar that'd most likely spread to TwitterSee, this is how we know you're lying.
>>568980516Sonic...
