Welcome to the Dragon Quest General! Everything related to the Dragon Quest series, also known as Dragon Warrior, is discussed here.XII-heroine-kun EditionLast Thread: >>569030584News• Update from the DRAGON QUEST team: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsYz_CVdowA • Dragon Quest XII: Flames of Fate is now Dragon Quest XII: Beyond Dreams. No release date or window yet.• Dragon Quest Monsters: The Withered World has been officially announced. No release date or window yet.>Now Available• Dragon Quest Smash/Grow, a Roguelite RPG for Android & iOS is out.• Dragon Quest VII Reimagined. Out now on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai. Available on PS4, PS5, Switch, and PC.• Dragon Quest Treasures. Available on Switch and PC.>Guides:/dqg/ Beginner's Guide to Dragon Quest: https://imgur.com/gallery/kE7vCn2Versions to Play/Buy: https://pastebin.com/TcW5bgqvDQM3 Resource: https://dev.metalkid.info/DQM3/MonsterpediaDragon Quest IX DLC/Treasure Map Searcher: https://pastebin.com/Paf0YpmeDQB2 Resources: https://pastebin.com/ykdKc201DQX Resources: https://pastebin.com/kE3XGQNS>Links:ROMs/Hacks/Mods/Translations: https://pastebin.com/QbQS5i2SAnime/TV: https://pastebin.com/a2cRRuziMusic: https://pastebin.com/NceqwLAa日本DQ Wiki: https://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/DQ Art, Guide Books, Non-H Doujins: https://pastebin.com/GnaCV4vW>OPhttps://pastebin.com/RSbUEyfQ>BROTHERS IN ARMS (F)>>>/vg/eagg/
>think about replaying IX>remember the dumb grind for vocations>don't replay IX
5 days left to vote/rank the mainline games with your fellow /dqg/oomanhttps://strawpoll.com/PKglebE7QZp
>>569842813Action Replay
>>569843556if you need to cheat for a game to be fun then maybe the game just sucks
>>5698379079 adds might/mending and then proceeds to shit on mages by giving them glacial spell learn levels.You want to try out a new vocation? Off to the metal slime mines friend. By the way, like half of the vocations are just glorified point caddies.The weapon distribution among vocations was also off. Why is there a grand total of 1 boomerang user for functionally the entire main game since sages don't exist until the last dungeon and luminaries are postgame only. Don't even get me started on how ass money gain is in this game, in an attempt to get people to use alchemy more and then they proceed to make you grind for drops/steals from monsters to make like 75% of them. Its a good? thing that DQ's damage formula is the way that it is in 9, so you can coast on the same shit for multiple dungeons but it "feels" bad to basically only buy from every third or fourth town.Tension is way more restricted compared to 8, since Egg On is restricted to one character, Psyche Up/Feel the Burn require investing into specific classes. If you don't plan on doing tension strats, then its either stack multiple people with the same build to exploit the combo mechanic or rely on all four people being in coup-de-grace state which is incredibly rare.Like, I don't hate 9, in fact, I've played it both vanilla and with a rebalance patch. But it needs work.
>>569844793Btw, don't give me that bullshit about boomerangs being gated because hitting the entire field is strong. 9's encounter sizes are small and half of the damn time, you're begging them to form groups so group target moves become more valuable. It's no DQ8 where you can feasibly encounter groups of 7 on a regular.
yeah 9 is just ass, feels like it punishes you for trying to use its mechanics
now i'm doing post game in II HD. I actually forgot about the Dwarven Caverns.
>>569845385Fat cow
>>569851307and that's a GOOD thing!
>>569841870My friend send me DQ 1+2 HDDo I have to play 3 first? I don't want to play 3 first because my autism says to play 1 before 2 and 2 before 3
>>569854830Not really1+2 HD just added references pointing back to 3 to complete the circlejerk
>>569841870fugly
Man... I want a cute girl who I can Princess Carry across the nation whilst she rests peacefully in my arms...
>>569854830keep in mind the series director outright said you have to play 3HD before 1+2HD, idk what that does for your autism
>>569863276My autism knows that a lot of japanese press statements only exist to cross promote other forms of media in the same franchise. Its like when toyotaro was asked at that french convention what parts of dragon ball were canon and he said "everything is canon" he didn't actually mean everything is canon he was just nicely saying "shut up and consume everything, goy" because the other 2 dudes at the Q&A panel that had the ability to fire him if he said anything uncueth were visibly recoiling at the fact that the goys would question the canonicity of nudragon ball
>>569864331but if the games are outright made (or, remade) to be played in that order, doesn't that mean that's the order to play them in? They're not the originals anymore, they're basically their own thing.Of course it's not that deep, but sitllalso people asked Tracetaro that cause nobody sane considers the DBS manga canon, even the companies involved will only ever use stuff that was in the anime instead
Release order is always the correct order. Release order for the HD remakes ia 3>1>2.
>replaying Builders 2 on Steam>those fucking unskippable text is still a thingI forgot about this shit. I thought they patched that already
>>569866889the issue is not even that they're unskippable, but that they stay on screen for like a whole minute each. Like imagine doing that stuff, seeing a "My liege, my god of destruction..." single line of text staying on the screen for a whole minute while the player can't do fucking anything else and thinking it's a good idealike i love the game, in fact i'm replaying it right now, but that's an absolute blunder
>>569866889>>those fucking unskippable text is still a thingdang, that sucks
>>569866889buy a switch 2 and play the superior pokemon themed version
>>5698666963 comes after 1 and 2. Simple as. It's funny that when it comes to final fantasy enix has this erection for presenting their classic titles as close to the original release as possible (even though literally every modern ff port is trash and out right worse than emulating the original release) but when it comes to dragon quest we get situations like 3, 1 and 2 hd-2d and dq7 reimagined
>>569854830For 95% of the game it doesn't really matter, the very end of DQ2 is the only place where it becomes somewhat important and even then the game recaps the relevant stuff for you so you probably won't be lost, it just won't be as effective.
>>569845385>>569853549
>>569875942>Horii tells people to play the remakes in that order>They were released in that order>The new events in 1/2 were written to accomodate that orderIf you want to play it as 1/2/3 then play the NES/SNES versions. Anything other than 3/1/2 for the remakes is objectively wrong.
>>569860319she really is best girl
ninten direct tomorrow :)
>>569877112>ywn feel jessica's huge tits sandwiching your face while her belly presses against your back
>>569877180What about GBC? I first played them there.
>>569882921Anything that's not HD remakes is 123
>>569877180hmmm nyo i will play 1 and then 2 and then 3
Artist said they might finish the line-up tomorrow.
I'll play 2, then 7, then 1, then 3 and then Monster Joker 2. Checkmate athetists.
>>569884648hmmm my play order will be 3 then 5 then 2 then 5 then 1 then 5 then 7 then 5 then dark prince then 5 then 11 then 5 then persona 3 then 5
>>569884597NiceAlso I preferred the Hellion recolour but that Psaro is also cool
>>569877112a pleasant fate
>>569885161Where does Peace Walker fit into all this
>>569885161anon playing the actual chronological order of leaving 5 running in the background for 10 years
>>569884648For me, its play 1, then play 9, then play 8, then finish 9, then play 1, then finish 8, then play 3, then play and finish heroes, then play 4, then play heroes 2, then finish 4, then finish 3, then finish heroes 2, then play and finish 7, then play and finish 11, then finish 1, then play and finish 2, then play and finish 6, then play 5, then play and finish 10 (v1), then play and finish 3hd, then play and finish 1&2hd, then play 7r
>>569888645my friend said he was gonna buy me heroes 1 when he gets paid next because he still owes me from when i bought him the elden ring dlc
>>569843352Funny that we only have 30 votes so far but the current order feels like what I would have expected.>>569884597This rules, thanks for sharing.
>>569890061Because there is probably legit only 35 of us here
>>569844793Yeh even as someone that sunk like 500+ hours into 9 as a teenager looking at the game now the balance is just a complete mess. Deftness being a stat that only really effects steal rates is baffling and means Thief and Ranger end up hitting like a wet noodle despite being physical focused classes due to how much of their stats go towards Deftness instead of something more practical. Not that it matters much when Gladiators are far and a way the best damage dealers and it's not even close
>>569897543Thief is important because you need someone to blow points into Deftness + Steal + Itemized Kill to get like 90% of the shit you need for the high end game.
>>569892985Yeah, considering that I think we are decently active and manage to not be too shitty of a place to be.
>>569902037smaller gens are generally better
>>569908509bigger jess is generally better
>>569908509I can see them...
Genuinely give me a DQ puzzle game
Oh magic conch she'll, what are the chances of news during the next NintendoDirect ?
>>56992293165% chance of DQM TWW news
they are calling you out /dqg/https://youtu.be/8cZOwDgXfu8?t=150
>>569924215only dragon quest game you have to grind in is 2
>>569922931no can do, it's FFVII turn
>>569925147More like DQ9
Hoping for good news.
>>569925147Estark's a cunt if you get to him without enough HP to survive two breaths in a row
>>569924215>>569925147How much extra fighting do you need to do before you consider it grinding? I'm usually ok with if if i'm just topping off a vocation or wanting to kill a couple of metal slimes before moving on, but if I'm feeling the need to have to do more than a level it's "actually" grinding.
>>569930584Awkward long Maribel
>>569930584Skinnyfat
>>569930584that's a goddamn rectangle
i love dragon quest 3
>>569942619Me too
>>569943189just has much replay value
I'm sleepy.
>>569945238wonder if we'll get that artbook, otherwise i'll import it.
It's dreamy
>>569951023Why is she looking at me like that. Stop it.
>>569935082Any amount of walking around in search of encounters for exp/gold/items is grinding.Note that grinding existing is not a bad thing, is a key feature and point of enjoyment in turn based RPGs imo. Its only bad when the game requires too much of it, such as NES Dragon Quest 1 or 2
I'm gonna try to beat Milly tonight for good DQM luck tomorrow. I bred Hale (level 40) with my SpotKing to get an even fatter SpotKing that can heal, Lizzie's descendant is a BoneWand with both flavors of breath attack, and slot 3 is a Slime Knight I'd breed away if there were any decent offspring options.
Started playing DQX again after a good long while. I’d only made it partway though Version 2. I remember thinking there were some solid stories, but I don’t remember super well. I think the parent/child towns were a highlight. I’d forgotten there was even a split dimension thing. I’m doing the questline with the King Kelp who’s curse you break, the one where monsters became humans and the reverse.
>>569953564i recently beat ver 1 and thought it was really good
DQX is the only MMO that has had me invested in the storyline of it's quests.
>>569955060they capture the feel and pacing of solo rpgs really well
tomorrow
>>569843352i like to think that 6 would be higher if people played the original version instead of ds with it butchering mechanics
>>569946130everyone looks so happy
>>569963670manlets, when will they learn
>>569964597
Finished! I'll confess I did have to lean heavily on 3x speed after a while. Not the sort of thing I'd usually do, but since it's all auto battles anyway I didn't feel too bad. Milly's MKS and magic burst guy were spooky but she wasn't nearly as tough as Dhuran.I started to get into the groove of the breeding stuff after a while, but the random dungeons really didn't do it for me. Not a bad game, but even at the time I'd rather have played real DQ or real Pokemon. Very interested to try the sequels though, I'm going to play the 3DS version of DQM2 for contrast.
been saving so much of my adventures with DQ II 2DHD it's going to be sad once I'm fully finished my journey against Malwrath. gonna do some final completions.
Today I learned that for some reason unlike Rockbombs, Bomboulders have a full set of teeth in the PS2 and DS versions of DQV (and the DS version of VI since it uses V's sprite) and nowhere else
>>569971035Holy shit look at those pearly whites
>>569971253The sprite version looks so much more menacing somehow what the fuck.The 3D model is just kinda goofy.
>>569971253>>569971372car salesman
>>569961946Imagine the ménage à trois (that's how it's called at Aubout du monde)
>>569884597Artist did indeed finish it.Also feel like I should just link them.https://x.com/On9602BrTKkRxHV/status/2064271282582216943
>>569922931Isn't it too soon to get any new information out from any of these?
>>569982534i think so toothen again, a "reminder that these got announced and are coming on <system>" could happen as well, like i'm betting FFVIIrevelation will get one of those today
>>569982534we could get gameplay shown for monsters 4 but it’s more likely being saved for tgs. maybe a new fortune street?
>Dragon's Dogma 2 expansion before DQ12Did we know about this already? What a weird place to announce it if not.
>one piece cooking game before dragon quest 12
I can't believe they're making Skuljagger 2
>ninjala sequel before dragon quest 12>nintendo achievements (limited time) before dragon quest 12
>jew jitsu cocksent vampire survivors before dragon quest 12
>new muramasa before dragon quest 12
>>569998139it was lightly teased earlier this year on the game's anniversary, but it was a schizotheory "you're looking too much into it, it's never happening" kind of teaseluckily hopeCHADS always win in the end
>xenoblade 4 (not called 4) before dragon quest 12
>>570000179Technically it's the fifth game.
>nintendo switch sports resort before dragon quest 12>>570000454x is fan fiction oc territory
>>570000551I guess but in its own way it's still part of the series.
>hd2d final fantasy game before dragon quest 12>turn based final fantasy again before dragon quest 12
>>570001042i'm pretty sure it's fucking brave exvius but console game instead of phone gacha
>new final fantasy before dragon quest 12Well there's DQM4 I guess.
>not vaporwarethank god
>Joker system AGAINI'm so tired
Debora bros we made it
deborabros!
>actual monsters 4 gameplay before dragon quest 12>monsters 4 is fucking beautiful before dragon quest 12
MY GIRL DEBBIELETS FUCKING GOOOOO
horii wasnt kidding, actual debbo
the models are so fucking beautiful bros
Still no budget kek, it's so shameful. At least we got Deb and it's coming soon I guess.
is there some extra info somewhere or was it just what they showed?
>>570001573It looks a lot better than Dark Prince's fuckass game engine
>>570001573budget is clearly much higher than 3s
>tales of eternia remaster before dragon quest 12
>kingdom hearts 4 combat shown before dragon quest 12
>kingdom hearts 4I told you
>ocarina of time remake before DQ12
>>570002542>implying that shit is real
>ocarina of time remake before dragon quest 12
this guy posting kpop in a DQ thread is really bizarre to me
that oot teaser was ugly as fuck kek maybe dq12 isn’t so bad
this dude looks cool
>>570003196I thought it was fine, I like the handpainted look. Then again I also like 7make's doll look.
>>570003147You new?
>>570003351“this will be zelda in 2019” ass graphics
>>570003647All games should look like 3DS XI desu.
>>570003746unironically
>only S and L monsters in the trailer>no offset eitherI think I'll stay a doomfag for nowseriously how hard is it to just copy and paste Monsters 2/Joker 3
hopefully its not as bad as DQM3
>>570005174The fact I can jerk off to it already makes it better
>>570004089Not being ironic at all, I fucking love the 3DS style.
Anyone else notice the rotating world when walking? Kinda similar to animal crossing? Thought that was neat
>>570005830my man
>>570006027probably to avoid LOD issuesbut that also means no giant monsters roaming about in large areas
damn those chibis are so cute
>>570006812But imagine how cool it would be if there are still roaming monsters and you slowly see the lower part and then upper of them as you move closer because of the rotation, like seeing them on the horizon
>>570006812Could still have it, doesn't seem like that big of a distance.
>>570003198>no fartingsoulless
Why can't we have builders3 with zenithian characters Smh
>>570007129*roaming giant monsters Obviously there are still roaming monsters
>>570006928they are really fucking cute, imagine if 7reimagined looked like that
Please remake V with this artsyle
So they are never bringing back the size slot system?
>>570007981I saw nips complaining before that they couldn't make full demonlord teams when so many of them are huge size so that kind of shit might be why they changed it
>>570007981Hopefully
>>570008017pikmin
>>570008149>they couldn't make full demonlord teams when so many of them are huge sizeJoker 3 already solved this issue by letting you fully customize size and passivesif anything the lack of giant monsters means LESS possible monsters in the roster as well as less customization option (which is fucking terrible)
I am interested in playing DQ II HD2D because II has my favorite OST in the series, but apparently you are supposed to play the HD2D remakes of the other two games first. Are playthoughs of the NES versions fine? I liked I and III but I feel like I got what I wanted out of my playthroughs of the NES versions and I prefer the more character focused games more (IV and V are my favorites)
>>570008674>means LESS possible monstersThere wouldn't be anything stopping them from making big niggas show up as Large-only or custom size if you could do it before anyways
Glad the speculation was correct that we'd see DQM4 in the direct and that it'd come out this year. Now I just hope the game is good.>>570003351I like 7R's look but Grokarina of Time looks like shit
>>570008709It doesn't matter that much. If you just wanna play II, play II.
>>570007254>monsters3 was dq4>monsters4 was dq5builders 3 will be dq6, trust the plan
>>570008709You kinda should play the HD versions since some lore things are different now. 3HD has cutscenes that flesh out things a bit more and some story changes and 1HD changes a lot actually and even introduced new npcs that show up in cutscenes and kinda add to the world
>>570008709You don't HAVE to, but the trilogy is narratively a lot more tight-knit in the HD-2D versions. There are a lot of references to the events of 1 and 3 in it.It's up to you, really.
this slop will have an even smaller monster rooster than DQM3
>>570009412what’s slop about it exactly?
>Incarnus will never return in a new game because they are joker series related
>the collectors edition is $220FUCK square enix. What a stupid price.
>>570009613joker 4 next year
>>570009613Incarnus was in Monsters 2 3DS
>>570008771>There wouldn't be anything stopping them from making big niggas show up as Large-only or custom size if you could do it before anywaysit would completely destroy the game's balance given certain passives were locked behind certain sizes (or size-related point system) to avoid you making full teams of busted monstersno matter how you look at it less is not more
>>570009845Idk what even in the collectors edition is worth 100. The pouch is cute but is probably like 30? Everything else looks cheap as shit
I think single players RPGs are better when they let you have freedom even if it means you can make a busted and broken team actually
>>570010009Dark Prince already changed it to 3 passives for S monsters and 6 for L monsters iirc
>new deltarune chapter before dragon quest 12
>>570010472yea and Monsters 3 has the worst balance since DQM GBC as well as a number of problems previous games didn't have
Just saw the trailerDEBORAH IS IN!Aaaaaaaa, I'm proper hyped for this now!
>>570010759Most of Dark Prince's problem was that they made status chance passives override immunities when explicitly it didn't before so you could just turn Sir Leopold or whoever into a lightning speed stunbot with no counterBut calling any game in the series balanced is a stretch PVP has been asscancer ever since Joker
>>570006027Good way to hide stuff popping in and out honestly
>>570006027>>570011512The Steam store page mentions it like its a marketable feature, lol
I really hate this early access shit
>>570011201>maids and and old guy behind herTheories? Part of me think it's just the Briscoletti manor at the start of the game. On the other hand, the trailer emphasised her too much for Debora to be a 5 secs NPC
>December releaseI want my Neraquest NOW>>570011201I hope she acts as a rival or something like that. It'd be a fun change to fight an ai team rather than wail on a boss monster.
>>570011917She's gonna be your rival
>>570011817Personally I do kinda see it as a feature. I like it in animal crossing and thought it gave the game a really unique feel in the trailer. I’m a fan personally, especially if it stops the bad pop in Monsters 3 had
>>570011078>PVP has been asscancer ever since Jokerclearly you didn't play any of the 3DS gamesthey were full of variety and there was always a counter to whatever bullshit someone could show up with (well outside of the Dai dlc for J3 Pro)making teams that could counter as much stuff as possible was some of the most fun I've ever hadclaiming the online was like Joker's just shows your ignoranceif anything the only one with pvp as bad as Joker 1 is Monsters 3 and they even cut it for the PC port knowing how bad it wasif they don't show a dedicated area for online battles like in the 3DS games it'll be a clear sign they simply don't care about the quality of the gameplay anymore
>>570011903oof, same. especially since i always buy dragon quest physically. makes it harder to avoid spoilers especially in a game that probably won’t be longer than 30 hours
>>570011903it just means you can pirate it "early" nowdays
>>570011917>Theories?you don't need theoriesthe game title (the japabese one at least) spells it out for youyou're going to be playing in the land of the dead (withered) treein Monsters 1 Milly is fighting for them and iirc the king is some old fuck
>>570012003>>570012707Do we always have rivals? I never played any monsters games
>>570011917She's got the same kind of poncho on, that has to mean monster scout. That's definitely a throne room, too, not the manor.>>570012707In DQM1 Milly's fighting for Greatlog (the DQM2 kingdom), not Deadtree.
>>570012879Joker 1 kinda did. It's not a series staple like it was for Pokemon though but there's usually some NPC scouts around.
>>570011201> mesuDebbie
>>570007769100% down for that
>>570012908>In DQM1 Milly's fighting for Greatlog (the DQM2 kingdom), not Deadtree.my bad it's been a whilewas their contestant some random guy?
>>570006027Didn't V PS2 do something a little similar? Maybe not as blatantly rolling-pin shaped.
>>570008017Looking kinda lit, anon
>touhou 6 remake before dragon quest 12
>>570013359Much less pronounced but yeah
>>570013359>>570013671We might actually get V remake in the style of Monsters 4…
>>570013645You're late, but is it a remake or just a port?
>>570013357Yeah, I think it's just a random guy. Their king also shows up for a little lore dump.
>>570014042full on remake, also on steam
>>570013896V only did it on the overworld, towns and caves and shit were flat
to the anon that said it would have less than monsters 3
Who?
>>570014534How many did 3 have, for comparison?
>>570015384Both advertised as 500+, 3s “500+” was like 530 monsters
>>570015246>waruiboueither the prince or some guy from the great log
>>570015384500+ as well but it was like 60% recolors
>>570015246>Fluffy for Bianca and Nera>Fizzy for Debora>Scruffy for some guyI thought for sure if they were going to do that it'd be Scruffy with Deb.
>>570015246One of the boys in the village that were bulling Saber maybe?
>>570015619recolor lives matter
>>570015246>Your regularly scheduled bratty prince has been enslaved, so here's some other guyI wonder if the monster tamer monster is going to be a monster or a generic NPC tamer.
>>570016004need my 5 killing machine recolors
>>570015619>worrying about recolors in dragon quest of all franchises
>>570015246bet they are going to make him debbies stooge that she bullies and makes wait on her at all times and eventually he has enough and leaves her and that’s why she is so mad at men and says she doesn’t need one in v
>>570015246My bro Madcandle!
>>570016418need at least 4 golems desu
>>570015246>Deb in sensible shoes
>>570016474I'm not against recolorsJoker 3 was like 800+ monsters but with 3-4 recolors for a lot of the basic monsters
>>570016942I went and double checked it's 782 and I can't be bothered to count how many it's got without the recolors
>>570018390220 dollars for one of the worst collectors editions you can imagine
>>570018402The screenshots they're posting around and on the JP game site show a bunch of different areas
>>570015246Young Papas...
>>570010989Is this fucker gonna get a variant?
>>570018607Who is that wolf thing?
>>570019619"Ruff Ruffian"
>>570017261Joker 3 Pro has around 330 uniques>>570019619This guy I think
10 more recolors of shit like komodo or goodie bag
>>570020146How's Debora supposed to make a team without 30 goodybag variants
I think Mottle King was MIA in Dark Prince
>One of the points of V is how the MC is super good at monster taming>Actually your potential wives were Super Monster Champions when they were kids and brutally mog you (the MC)Do they even care about their own setting and story anymore?
>>570021342It's never made sense man>Actually Terry made every demonlord his bitch when he was like 7
>>570011201Mirror mirror in the wall
>>570021492You just can't take the stories in spinoffs too seriously. Remember how Bianca and Nera were kidnapped by Empyrea to go fight in another dimension the night before the bride choice, then the next morning all three girls were turned into copies of Mr. Briscoletti and had to be saved by Eleven?
Its amazing to me how DQ is the only thing that manages to look good in HD2D.Everything else ends up so god damn ugly.
Why did Terry stop being a monster tamer is he stupid?
>>570018390god tier cover art>gkcI fucking hate square enix.
>>570022427It helps DQ actually has an art style
>>570015246both nera (or flora) and bianca have their hair combed back in the same way as if it were traced.
>>570022679Milly also gave it up. They're both stupid.
>>570022703just buy the switch 1 version
>>570021564whose the cunniest of them all?
FF won this one lads.
>>570023804
>>570022427it helps that it's the least HD2D of them all, it's basically just the DS remakes but in HD
>>570024741Ugly bitch cunt
>>570022427The new Final Fantasy game they just showed looks pretty good.
>>570014534>>570015619how anyone can be hyped for this slop is beyond meI would rather just replay DQM1&2
>>570025139The similar artstyle to some of the FF gachas plus the focus on summoning legacy characters really gives it a phone game vibe. In a vacuum I guess it doesn't look bad though. I'm just kind of disappointed they weren't brave enough to just do a normal retro-style FF.
>>570018390>don mole dlcsurely they're not cutting a basic feature and selling it once again
>>570025162What a scam.
>>570025431>The similar artstyle to some of the FF gachasi mean it is literally a remake of a FF gacha, brave exvius
>>570025139It looks as bad as Octopath and stuff to me.I think the main problems are the wild camera angles and crazy particle effects and shit everywhere. It looks like slop.
>>570025808The HD text for stuff like damage numbers on top of the pixel art doesn't look good either. It's not great in the DQ ones (I forget about Octopath) but it looks even worse in this FF game.
>>570025162every modern dragon quest has pre order and special edition bonuses. simply just don’t buy them
>>570025162just don’t buy the special edition bro it’s that easy
>>570022427I think the DQ HD2D games look a lot worse in motion than the other HD2D titles, on top of sloppy UI placement. The characters in the DQ ones look like they glide in the overworld due to less animated sprite movement and the battles look incredibly cheap with the constant switching between third and first person because they couldn't be assed to animate your characters attacking when every other HD2D does. The only plus with DQ is not having as many gratuitous post-processing effects. I know I'm not alone on this either, ironically I've seen more criticism for the presentation in DQ HD2D games from Japanese fans than from anywhere else.
>Resident Evil Veronica
im going to be buying the new ff, rhythm heaven and monsters
>>570027742What’s confusing about this ui?
>>570027742I hate the camera angle so fucking muchSNES remains the superior version no matter what normalfags say
>>570027096>>570027438people like you are the reason Nu-DQ games are soulless cashgrab, you are letting them get away with it
>>570027987how am i letting them get away with it when i don’t buy the special editions? i also didn’t buy dark prince till it was 20 bucks and didnt buy treasures at all
>>570027987anon they're not gonna care that you have a fit about it online, they're only gonna care if you buy them or not. Which means again, don't buy them, and simply tell others to not buy them either
>>570027742The ui is fine, its the exact same as X and XI.The character movement is also a good thing, its closer to old games like Xenogears, Grandia, and Wild Arms 2 in that regard, which look very elegant compared to HD2D.The battles being in first person is also fine, they didn't need to fix what isn't broken.
>>570028510>Which means again, don't buy them, and simply tell others to not buy them eitherexactly, I encourage you to do the same>>570028323you heard it, don't buy these games in the first place
I’ve always preferred first person battles, no wasted time on attack animations like in Chrono Cross and FF9
>>570029173But there are attack animations anyway
>>570029173DQ attack animations are generally pretty snappy no matter the perspectiveOnly the pep moves in 11 are longer than a few seconds
>>570029153you understand that buying the standard version that doesn’t come with the bonuses doesn’t support their behavior because i didn’t spend more right?
>>570029265Its not the same thing, a screen effect is in and out in a flash, much quicker than focusing on a character them leaping and doing an attack and them jumping backwards into position again before the next characters turn
>>570029357you shouldn't spend any money on these sloppy low effort games, skipping the bonuses is a step in the right direction but you can do better
>>570030157how is monsters 4 a low effort game?
>>570018390I want the figures so badly but not at that price jesusalso this setup makes me think debo is a late game/post game party member
>>570030647the number of monsters says everything you need to know about this gamethese lazy ass devs can't even be bothered to make 300 unique monsters before opening paint.net to recolor them and call it a daythere is 0 excuse to not have the full DQ X and XI monster roosters which already have existing 3d models
>>570032067but anon i thought it was lazy to reuse existing models? why do you support slop?
>>570030998>>570031716goddamn this looks leagues better than 3>>570032067do we know its mostly recolors? or are you being paranoid
>>570032402the face models and color are so good
>>570024741kino
>>570018607Did monsters in your party follow you around in Dark Prince? Genuinely can’t remember
I wish 12 looked like Monsters 4
>>570033190same
>>570033121I don't think so
>>570033317I didn’t think so either, really cool addition then that no one’s talking about
>>570033121I don't think they've done that since the series stopped being 2D
>>570024741Tot
>>570032285it is extremely lazy to cut original monsters out of lazyness and replace them with those who already have existing 3d models, like they did with 7 reimaginedbut in a game like DQM where monster rooster is everything and where fans are looking forward to build a team with their favorite monsters, you are absolutely meant to take and reuse everything from the previous titleshow do you think dqm2 SP got +900 monsters ? they took every 3d model they had at their disposal and that without cutting anything because they weren't lazy shitters back thenyou are a clueless newfag for even asking this question, every longtime monsters fans know that these games are about reusing assets as much as possible while adding new stuff on top of that
>>570035818maybe the roster is smaller because they follow you around in this one anon, a first for the 3d titles
Honestly I am fairly surprised Deborah is making it into the game, given how it seems like Japan and especially the devs feel about her.
>>570035818why are you defending slop?
>>5700358182 SP translation when
>>570035818Most of the monsters cut from 7 Reimagined were ones that haven't had a 3D model ever outside of 7 3DSThey still shouldn't have been cut but there wasn't any shit recent enough to reuse as-is
>>570036016joker 3 did something similar, they received a massive backlash for that and rightfully sonobody asked them to delete monsters for muh riding mechanic, and I don't think anybody asked them to delete monsters for the following mechanics either
>>570036597monsters iv isn’t cutting any monsters since it’s a standalone release, there is no standard it must follow. not the same as joker 3 at all, a direct sequel
>>570036870>there is no standard it must followthis is just retardedthe only one without standards here is (You)
>>570037416i have standards. already stated i didn’t buy treasures
>>570036587Doesn't X have like every single monster across all the mainline games in it?
>>570036587they should never delete monsters that are original to that particular mainline title, simple asthey are part of the game's identity, 8 wouldn't be 8 without puppet man, chicken knight, mumboh-jumboh, fencing fox, the sock devil etc...>>570036870cool mental gymnastics, but it doesn't make it any less lazy
>>570038162Model quality wise I don't think pasting stuff from X in would be the end of the world but it's a stretch to call it recent And there's still shit like these guys that were only ever in 7 (+3DS) and Monsters 2 and never came back for Joker 3.
>>570032604Too cute.
DQM4 is going to flop. It's basically a game for little girls.
>>570040620Actually was able to convince my sister to finally give dragon quest a try by showing her the trailer
>>570011956Would be fun if she keeps track of how many times you lose to her if you have to rematch and mocks you for it “took you 4 times?”
>>570044732It's such a baffling thing that people in the West see Dragon Quest and just immediately have no interest, meanwhile slap Final Fantasy on something and boom it's suddenly to be taken seriously.
>>570046471How can Dragon Ball be so popular and none of that floods over into Dragon Quest?
>>570047337because people in the west aren't as consoomers as japs, so people's first instinct is to avoid and shit on something they don't know well. Would've worked better if they hadn't kept the toriyama style from the first few games, to let the "gaming world" get used to it while it was young, cause i bet when they actually started using Toriyama's art people went with "why is this copying Dragon ball" instead of a more positive outlookit is what it is, i'm just glad they didn't actually go with the "we must do what the west likes" for XII
>>570047337People see that it looks like Dragon Ball and isn't Dragon Ball, so that say "ew, chinese knockoff!" and avoid it like the plague.The name being similar also doesn't help
>>570048062>cause i bet when they actually started using Toriyama's art people went with "why is this copying Dragon ball"Come on. I know people are retards, but I'm fairly certain even back then people would know Toriyama worked on the art for the series. It was never exactly secret. Hell I'm more sure that if the boxart of the first few games kept the Toriyama art it would've done better. Just look at Chrono Trigger and how highly regarded it is.
>>570048062>because people in the west aren't as consoomerslol
>>570047337Because RPGs are only a normalfag genre when something gets massively massively shilled or has a full blown dating sim built in
>>570049109The West isn't as bad as Japan yet, but is rapidly approaching that point.
>>570048820that's my point exactly anon, squaresoft used the actual Toriyama art for CT from the start and it became an icon, enix kept it away from the west for retarded reasons and it never took offof course that's not the only reason, another reason is the games being generally "calmer" than FF or whatever else (as they never try to be some kind of grand epic), but still it used to be that the cover sold you the game>>570049109you can lol all you want, japs beat anyone at being consoomers and generally plastic to fill the void buyers
Luv me DQMLuv fusing monstersLuv fighting in the arenaLuv powerleveling slimesSimple as>>569841870Tomboy pussy radar is tingling.
>>570049109West hasn't reached>emulation is always bad no matter what even if the game was never localized and made legally availablelevels of consumer the Japanese are.I once had one tell me I should fly to Japan, learn Japanese, and legally purchase Yo-kai Watch 4 if I was a REAL fan and wanted to play it, rather than emulating with a fan translation.
>>570049746to be fair they don't really have the issue of untranslated games, so for them it's a "oh you're poor? Just be rich!" kind of pov
>>570015497>>570015619Welp they're also saying 4 has 500 so
>>570050712Watch it sell less copies than DQM3
>>570051352Being out on all platforms at the same time and not running like rancid ass will probably help it
>>570051352It's a lot less ugly, and cute kid versions of waifus are more appealing than an awkward tween version of a cool villain. I'm sure it'll do fine.
>>570051887>cool edgy male MC vs little girls DQM4 is doomed. Boys aren't buying this shit.
Didn't 3 sell well? This one should do better since it's from a more popular entry.
>>570053379>a more popular entryThat's debatable, DQ4 is really popular itself. They're definitely taking a more marketable angle with this one though, not just with the waifus but leaning much more on the classic DQM stuff.
>>570051352it will be the best selling monsters game in the series
The JP website has a tiny bit more story information on its character page. Bianca and Nera are looking for an herb for sickdad (of course) and Fizzy is confirmed Deb's partner.
>>570055031lol
Now that I think about it, V's MC and Henry probably are already slaves while the girls are playing with the monsters
>>570057003It'd be so funny if they just don't address that.
>>570058345I'm sure they won't. It's not like the girls would know.
>>570057003And now that you mention it, I think there is a pretty big chance the girls will interact with them. Maybe not Fiveo, but absolutely Henry. I think the girls talking to Pankraz is also a "will happen." Not sure if that means this will take place before or after his death but i wouldn't put it past them to make him a force ghost.
>>570058429I mean 3 threw Solo in there so can't say for sure.
>>570058748Maybe. I could also see Madalena's spirit showing up since she's the ultimate monster tamer. I think the most likely thing is a flash-forward where the girls meet their grown up selves as a reference to Terry meeting himself in DQM1, though. Probably also a Saber encounter like the Lizzie one in DQM1, it'd be weird to do DQ5 DQM and not have The recruitable monster as a recruitable monster.
>>570046471Probably because "turn based" Final Fantasy is something that has been clamored for for a while now. It's also 2DHD so yeah.
>>570059140I haven't played DQM3 yet but it seems like a weird outlier since it actually takes place in the world of DQ4.It's definitely possible, but when the stakes are "get medicine for dad" it would kind of throw off the vibe to learn that your friend was enslaved when you weren't looking.
>>570059140>I mean 3 threw Solo in there so can't say for sure.Maybe it will be before the MC is enslaved and he will be the final boss of monster taming
>>570056367multiplatform, waifus, nice art style, more outwardly light hearted, followable monsters and animal crossing world spin? brother this is going to hit the “cozy” community like crack
>>570059982Actually yeah I just realized. Since V sorta pioneered Monster Taming in DQ it'd be neat if that was alluded to at all.
>>570027438Nah that anon is right because the existence of easy training dlc ruins the game.In a good game you got a well crafted exp curve. But with the exp dlc the devs have an incentive to make the exp curve worse, even slightly, to increase the dlc sales. It's fucked and unnecessary. Keep that gacha bullshit out of the game. That's also a pirate for me.It's gonna be on switch 1 (which is also an extremely retarded move) so we will have it day one.The only good thing I've seen so far is that I've seen no recolors. Which I give them big props for. Which would be an insane 'fuck you' if they intentionally kept them out of the promo shots.
>>570063814why is a game releasing on switch 1 a retarded move? it has a larger install base than ps5 and switch 2, it’s just smart business
>>570063814>no recolorsI haven't been scrutinizing the screenshots too closely but Bunicorn is in the first promo image and Spiked Hare is on the cover, so that's one.
>>570063814If you think there are going to be no recolors in a dragon quest game then you are truly a fucktard
>>570064181Because it is 100% holding the game back. Obviously. >>570064261Ah shit here we go. I still have hope though because no in-game screenshot has any.>>570064429There are acceptable recolors (slimes and stuff like lava man) and there is DQM3. If they are so common they shouldn't set me up for disappointment with their promo shots. Checkmate retard.
>>570065343how is it holding the game back? a game doesn’t need to be on strong hardware to be great, in fact games have gotten worse the more they chase graphical highs
The game more than likely started development originally targeting Switch 1 anyway. It's easy to forget Switch 2 is only one year old.
>>570065589>how is that insanely underpowered console holding the game, that needs to have a lowest common denominator, backI dont even know how to answer that. Well we sure as fuck won't have any DQMJ3 monster riding, jumping and giga monster strolling in it. That's for sure. Also the screenshots look very bleak if you look at the details and textures. Also that fancy animal crossing effect might just be a performance tradeoff. Techincal marvel like the joker games is off the table.
>>570066753damn i can’t believe joker 3 released on the 3ds instead of the playastation 4, them making it for that shitty gaytendo handheld really held it back and it would have been waaaaay better in the palace of sony because hardware power definitely = better game
>>570066753I'm just glad it doesn't look as repulsive as DQM3.>Techincal marvel like the joker games is off the table.This is true though, I played a little Joker 1 on my New 3DS a couple of days ago and it holds up really well for a full 3D DS game. Couldn't stick with it because it turns out my A button is fucked, but I was impressed.
>>570066753you do know peformance is going to be different between versions right? steam/switch2/playstation is going to ruin and look better, regardless of the switch. Literally switch games like pokemon get performance boosts based on the system its running onand riding has nothing to do with that, switch can easily handle it of the fucking 3ds could.
>>570066753It's still absolutely insane to me that they managed to not only have riding, but riding EVERY SINGLE MONSTER in DQMJ3. With different speeds, abilities, and accounting for ACCURATE size instead of shrinking everything for all-purpose use.Part of me has been itching to play it again because I feel like I sort of played it in a very. Wrong way the first time I did.
>2gb bigger than dark princeroster of 234 confirmed
>>570067076>single system game with custome engine vs 5 system release with unreal engineI really hope that 'argument' was supposed to be a joke.>>570067082>I'm just glad it doesn't look as repulsive as DQM3I agree with that.The crazy thing was that the rom was something like 60mb in size. It's rediculous.
>>570067439don’t tell him that the switch easily runs gamecube and 3ds ports with no issue and can even run nier automata and the witcher
>>570067521SE penny pinching as always. I don't even know if a new DQM would even need an upgrade.
>>570067796if that’s your defense then isnt the issue multi platform releases then? you should be advocating for it to be exclusive to one console
>>570067521>>570067920Atari can put a game on cart but Squenix can’t kek
>>570067439Do you guys not understand that certain features need to be cut if the lowest common denominator is just that much worse? I don't want to attack your precious handheld. It's just a fact.>>570067845At what cost? They look way worse and run like shit. And also released like 5 years (of brutal optimization) after the initial release. Is that supposed to be a gotcha?Get real.>>570067985No. Switch 1 is a real issue. Multi plattform to some degree aswell but with Xbox PS5 and pc you can make a go-all-out version and give the techincal bad version to switch 2. With switch 1, unless, you cut features, which they should, which they won't, it just drags everything down, because it's like 3 generations behind and simple downporting tricks won't do it.
>>570069052nier automata runs very good and consistent on switch, people referred to it as a miracle port when it released for a reason
>>570069052Nigga if switch 1 can run Metroid Prime 4 it can run whatever they had planned for Monsters 4, if we were talking about DQ12 i would agree with you
>>570069052You're doing an awful job pretending you don't.
>>570066753isn’t bamco literally porting digimon time strangers to switch with rideable digimon? that’s games also much more ambitious than monsters 4
The cover art literally spoils there will be ridable monsters lol. Look at Bianca and Deb
>>570069258I never saw the nier port in action, but alright. Then its a miracle port that took ages. The game is very empty and barebones though. You got to agree.Witcher 3 on the other hand runs and looks like shit. Even with ALL the optimization and downporting tricks in the world.Whatever my arguments are sound. I didn't want to hurt anyone's switch feelings, but the ARM console is just a massive piece of shit. Especially the s1.If anyone still doesn't get my argument, it's like I would argue with you guys that they could aswell make a GBA port and why the fuck would that be bad. Creativity is the bottleneck, right?
>>570070220
>>570070220the purple monster reminds me of a dragon ball character
>>570069891Miracles are 100% possible, but it's also undeniable that there's a type of "Switch ugly" that's a common artifact of low-budget multiplat-with-Switch-in-mind development and Treasures and DQM3 are both examples, and DQM4 being less ambitious is probably a tradeoff to some extent. I don't think it's possible for games like DQ spinoffs to exist and not come to Switch 1 though, so I can only vaguely wish they were better made.
>>570070525you aren’t going to believe this
>>570070525don't be silly anon
>>570069370Is an exclusive.It looks and runs like shit, aside from the fps but only because of extreme abuse of dynamic resolution and leaving out other graphic features.DQM4 could have been DQ12 quality vise if it wasn't for the s1.>>570069483Play DQMJ3P to understand what I'm saying. It's not just riding but also giga riding and strolling. I haven't played time stranger but I saw some animation and I assume the game is also very barebone and still took extra time to make.
Something that just clicked for me.The overworld looks really simplistic. Like- It's a 3D version of what you'd expect out of like, DQM1 randomized locations or something. The perspective also leading to that, being very top-down rather than 3rd person like DQM has been since it went 3D.
>>570070834>DQ12>qualityDid we see the same 12 teaser?
>>570070583Now thats a reasonable post. >>570070873That is what I'm saying!I dont even know why I'm arguing these simple facts with you. Look at the fucking ground textures and details.
>>570070873the simplicity works for monsters i feel
>>570070873Maybe it's because I was playing DQM1 yesterday, but I immediately assumed that's what they were going for. Everything about it screams DQM1.
>>570071217The textures look good? It’s not over detailed or messy and fits the cartoony aesthetic, nothing clashes. It looks like the models would actually live in that world
>>570071505Anon the grass is painted on the ground. Dont be fooled by high detail character models when everything else looks bad. The FF7 remakes did that aswell.also the models look kinda lifeless and off.
There's no pleasing some people.
>>570072006Yeah it’s not overly detailed or messy and fits the vibe. I prefer simple over individually modeled grass particles that blow in the wind and make the game 60gb. If every Dragon Quest looked like 8 i would be happy
I'll pray every day for the game to have god-tier gameplay like the 3DS games and not be 3-2
There is no displeasing some people. They even put up with gachas.
>>570072315The battle ui, capture method and breeding look all straight copied over from 3
The UI at least looks a bit nicer than DQM3's even if it's broadly similar. I just wish they'd use 2D art for the battle portraits instead of the in-game models.
>>570073345>just wish they'd use 2D art for the battle portraits instead of the in-game models.my thoughts on modern kingdom hearts
>>570073638It's a common problem. It's bothered me since I played... I think Neverwinter Nights 2? Some western RPG with a create-a-protag where all the party members used 2D portraits so your main guy's 3D mug always looked like shit next to them.
>>570072185You dont understand. I'm the biggest DQM fan. You guys need to escape the Stockholm syndrome. Don't put up with mediocre spinoffs, shady dlc, customer-exploiting gachas, year long delays and remakes after remakes.Expect new games. Expect great games. That's what DQ was all about.>>570072315This nigger gets it. DQM3 was also a single platform game btw. AND ran like shit. AND was pretty barebones. Except for that seasons feature. That was kinda neat. Overall it was a mediocre game that was leagues behind the good monster games.Lets hope for the best but call out bullshit.
>>570074252Okay, I'll call out your tactless console warrior bullshit right now then.You can complain without resorting it.
>>570074658I didn't make it into console warrior bullshit. You got butthurt because I called the s1 what it is. A piece of shit that holds games back. I even directly pointed out where I'm coming from with sound arguments. You are your own problem. You idiot.
I guess I'm a outlier here but I did enjoy most of their recent games, even Treasures. The only one I didn't bother buying was the 7 remake because of all the cut content.Don't think these games are worth full price though, maybe 1+2. They definitely need to put more effort into them.
>>570074252That’s because Monsters 3 was a phone game they pivoted to switch after rethinking their approach towards the mobile market
3 days left >>569843352
>>570077470I want a sequel poll ranking the spinoffs
>>570076454Yep, I know. Doesn't excuse the state the game was in though. I would have been so mad if I had bought it and that's what I got. We hope for the best. They won't fuck as again.
>>570077652Idk how that one would even work, feel like there would be too many jp only releases no one played so would have to make it en releases only besides joker 3? probably would have to leave out the mobile games too since they would just all eat the bottom rankings
>>570078003all of em so we can slander as many games as possible
Today went a lot better than I was expecting.
>>570081002Healie a cute
that trailer brought in literally zero new people to this thread kek
>>570083318did you get married?
>>570084215pikuniku 2 got more views than us bro
>>570084215Westerners can't handle fun games.
I'm not getting a Switch 2 for releases
>>570085320i just don’t know how it’s possible for no one new at all to come in and ask “can i just start with the new monsters game?” “is this game going to be good” nothing at all
>>570085601They'll trickle in. 99% of people who watched that Direct were there for Ocaremake tier news and everything else was fluff they had to sit through to get to that.
>>570084215sand lesbian in the op is keeping them away, cute + funny flora & bianca would bring them in
>>570084215It's just us, forever.
>>570046471That's the localization penalty.
>>570011201>You are in this spinoff, but we do not grant you the rank of Italian.
>>570088160Harry.. forgotten
It's them, from the movie.
>>570088430I'm not sure I like how Harry's looking at that cat.
>>570088494Not gonna say anything about how the slime's looking at Fiveo?
>>570090003Of course not.
that was a cool moment and callback.I think I should just defeat Malwrath and pick up last remaining things in the game.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/145481239would you marry matilda?
>slop
Cheering against it.
> Come on anon, we're going to raid crocodilopolis
>next remake is going to be either HD-2D slop or Reimagined slopIts so over..
>>570097081Oh that Matilda, right. I keep forgetting her and thinking people are talking about the warrior lady from the first past town in 7 when I see the name out of context.
>>570108936HD2D looks good when its DQ, and Reimagined is a very 7 specific thing, it wouldn't work for any other game, they're not doing the doll thing again.
just started DQ5 Mobile and the haunted castle is kicking my assEnemies are getting crits left and right, why is my rng so bad
>>570117714My first time playing i died there like 6 times, second time i died only twice. That’s just how it goes
>>570084403what the fucks a pikuniku
How many save files are there on 5? I'm going to try and do all 3 brides in different ones.
>>570114473>>570116983This is who Deb will meet at the end of the Gate of Reflection.>>570117714Probably one of the toughest areas in the series in terms of how likely you are to get your shit kicked in at first. A couple of levels and the boomerang make a huge difference. At least the way the game handles wiping out in the child section is pretty funny.
>>570118992wholesome quirky chungus game dats “ACTUAWEEE WEWEEE DEEEP!” and is raping us
>>570119054I think it's exactly three. The game even basically tells you you should try doing that.
>>570119339>>570118886Yeah I do like the wipe out cutscene.Well glad its not just me, the groups of bone snakes and will o wisps are terrifying
you can hype the square enix asia upload of monsters 4 and that could make it show up in more people’s feeds that usually wouldn’t see it and maybe get a few extra buys
>people enjoying the FF HD-2D game>biggest complaints I'm seeing about it revolve around summoning old characters from other gamesIt's funny that DQ (generally) doesn't have that problem. Like I guess because it's more broadly self-referential rather than mostly focusing on the most popular entries? Also plus many people just not knowing DQ like that.
>>570121116Callbacks and references are one thing, even ones that get too deep into timeline bullshit. Summoning Cloud™ from Final Fantasy VII™ Remake™ to do a Big Damage Cutscene™ is on a whole other level.
>2 views https://youtu.be/NE0Ofh1nXJE
>>570121116it doesn't have that problem cause we still don't have a game that is actually a remake of a gacha game, like the FF game you're talking about
>>570121430it’s really interesting that nintendo even makes all these small channels for different regions instead of just having a world wide channel with multiple subtitle options
>>570121430tfw the views on that channel are so small that we could manipulate the views by watching it again and again making it seem like it’s the most hyped game shown off in one region of the world
>>570121116Probably because DQ doesn't rely on specific entries as the series cash cow the way FF does.
>>570119054There's another way...
Deb doesn’t talk at all in the Japanese trailer and instead it’s Flora saying her name in a very shocked manner
>>570122348There was a JP tweet mentioning the voice actors and I'm pretty sure it's the same voices for the girls as all the other spinoffs
>>570122335Is this the fabled Dragon Quest V- yellow version?
>>570122335DQV harem fan rpg when?
>>570122706Fiveo's epic quest for hentai...
monsters 4 will have online co-op and cross platform pvp
>>570122506Floras voice sounded like Kanahana to me so i believe it
>>570122640You meant reimagined™ By the way, it would be funny a version where they all ended up in your party but only one married (You). Imagine the amount of banter in the party chat.
>>570122506>>570123329Everyone's VAs are listed on the character page of the JP website too, everyone's the same. I'm increasingly convinced that Rivals only existed as a scheme to attach VAs to every possible character.
>>570122784Sadly, 99.9% of DQ's hentai fan games are monster rape shit or gangbang cuckshit
>>570123801monster rape is unironic kino
>>570123952If I'm raping the monsters sure
>>570123695When they first teased 4 the thing i was most excited for was the idea of Kanahanas voice through out an entire game so im pretty ecstatic
>>570119054You need three saves to play Nera's game three times with her
>>570124742based
>>570124742>She marries someone else if you don't do itYou're getting cucked in your other saves if you don't marry her in every save
>>570124914This is why flora is the right choice, you steal her from her childhood friend and have nasty disgusting sex with her while he imagines what could have been. Bianca becomes a lonely dried up hag but gets to enter the kingdom of heaven a virgin and Deb masturbates angrily to the thought of taking you from her sister. It’s the only right choice desu
we have philosophers in /dqg/
Apparently this item can turn everything on the field into variants of Metal Slimes.This is definitely gonna be some day 1 grinding DLC.
>>570127630>You need 30 minutes between usesWhat's the point of doing that in a single player game and with a premium item
>>570127902Monsters 2 3D was spend a shitton of gold or wait 6 hours to reset the metal menagerieSo I guess they want you going to do something else inbetween grinding
>>570123801That DQ2 one with the shota was pretty good.
>>570123801Well that's weird since it seems like 'shota hero with harem party' specifically with DQ classes, feels relatively prevalent in hentai.
When flora calls me her knight in shining armor in party chat i get hard
DQM comparisons
>>570119628I really like how DQ gatekeeps itself in the west without doing nothing
>>570130774>523I swear it was closer to 530
>steam ending production of gift cards before dragon quest 12
Autist-kun, please comb through all the promo art and screenshots and tell us how many new monsters (vs. DQM3) they've showed off
>>570077470xbros…
>>569843352> IV and XI ahead of VIII againExcellent.
Should I play Dark Prince or wait for Withered World?
>>570141228If you really have to play Monsters now emulate one of the 3DS games.
>>570141418Why those over DP?
>>570141859Because Dark Prince is missing a bunch of shit because they released it barely finished, Monsters 2 or Joker 3 are absolutely better games
>>570142057Will WW be complete?
>>570142210It doesn't seem like it's the product of a double aborted development cycle so it's not completely fucked out of the gate at least.
>>570141228Have you played DQ5?
>>570142564>pink bagCute.
>>570140319top 3 spots being taken by 2d titles shows how boomer this gen is
>>570143683There are only 3 full 3D main games, one of them's an MMO and one is 20 years old
>>570144214but millenials and zooms say 8 and 11 are the only great ones and the others are very hard to get into and need a full 3d action remake :/ time to get with the times old man
>>570142885The only DQ game I played was the monsters one on the GameBoy as a kid
>>570144927Before playing the upcoming monsters game you really should play DQ5. It takes placing during the events of the story and features characters from it
>>570144927>>570145337Counterpoint: it takes place in a different setting and probably won't tie into DQ5's plot in any meaningful way. Anon played DQM1 without knowing it was connected to DQ6 and that probably didn't matter.
>>570145940Doesn’t Monsters 1 take place before 6 though? Not really the same as a game taking place in the middle of another. Sure you probably don’t have to play 5 to enjoy it but to fully enjoy it i really think you should
>>570142210Yes. The issue with Dark Prince is it was originally being developed as a mobile title before pivoting to a console release pretty late into development. WW has been being developed as a console game the entire time so should be far more refined
>>570144548you know, what if the next builders game takes place in DQVI?
>>570145209is that watercolor? nice details.
When are we getting a new trailer for DQ12?
>>570147576ah the sonic 4 problem
>>570149616My guess is September
>>570149616TGS
>>570149684Pretty much. Although these days with all the updates Dark Prince isnt so bad but its online scene is pretty dead so if the story doesn’t click with youre kinda fucked. Wouldn’t spend more than like 10ish on it these days
>>570149616At some point in the future.
>>570152024is there a list of updates? I bought it relatively early near release but dropped it cuz of life things so I'm curious to go back to it
>>570143683zoom here, 11 is my favorite but i loved the entirety of 5 and most of 4 particularly the brown gypsy twins part
>>570149850>>570149941Yeah if we're getting it this year it's either that or Jump Festa in December.
>>570130774can someone explain the moonrunes
>>570161107this is what google translate gave me"Illuka SP" is monsters 2 on phones, idk why they call it that way
>>570161339I'm guessing it's Iru+Ruka and SP is just the name of the phone port with extra rerelease content
>>570149616Very soon.
About Terry 3D, is there anything to look out for when breeding monsters? Can i just go for what looks cool? Also, is there a cutoff point or anyway a "don't do it as soon as you can but after the involved monsters are x level/x mastered skills'?
>>570148939The dream world schtick was already done by DQB2 though
>>570172283>is there anything to look out for when breeding monsters?>is there a cutoff point orIf you want your skill points to keep going up don't slam a monster that's the product of a whole bunch of fusions together with a freshly scouted monster. It's not a "never ever do this" but you keep 1/2 of the total points from both parents When you first start breeding just doing it at Lv11, and fusing as many monsters as you can, is efficient enough, when you get further in and it's faster to level start fusing at higher levels to preserve more points and stats for your important team members.>Can i just go for what looks cool?You can double back later and make almost any monster post-game worthy if you want by passing them stronger skills. Monsters stat caps aren't all that different if you go through all the grinding to get there, higher rank monsters just have more frontloaded levelups and sometimes more busted combinations of passives.Other than that just always slam fodder together so you have fresh sources of skill points soaking up levels in storage and if you discover a lot of monster types the fusion search will have more potential results to show you.
guys i thought up of something! Matilda, as a Mermaid! Maybe Peronel too, or just a swimsuit too embarrassed showing her huge breasts.
>>569843352More votes than I thought we would get desu
>>570123952Only if it's male hero on female monster.
>>570130774I don't really count recolors as actual slots.
>>570179847ok terry
>>570179847this results in demon lords btw
I assumed if they actually did include Debora as more than a cameo that she'd be teamed up with Scruffy and treated as more comedic, but I guess it makes sense to have the late additions be a duo. I haven't played DQM3 yet but it seems like Fizzy isn't actually in it much, which makes me wonder if she was designed for the Erik & Mia version and was left over in Dark Prince as a vestige of that. Either way, Deb inheriting Psaro's partner is kind of funny.
Is DQ6 the most underrated mainline game?
>>570182924yes. if we got the english release back on the snes it would be hailed as a classic
I think IX was pretty big in the West, but it feels like SE forgot it even exists.
>>570183313feel like 9 fans don’t realize how big of an undertaking it would be to remake 9 especially with how much would have to get reworked to work
>>570182924no it's always been properly rated
A dragon-quest.org user has been uploading concept art from Art of Alefgard. You can look at his upload log for the list, but you'll have to do some work to view them. Just CTRL+F "Art of Alefgard" and you should get them.https://dragon-quest.org/w/index.php?limit=500&user=Follower+of+Light&title=Special%3AListFilesThe earliest uploads start on April 15th
>>570188139>>570188427orange girls are the best
>>570189653
>>570189723she does need a bath though
>>570189775She barely has time to while time traveling.
>>570182924I have no idea why people rate it below 7, but otherwise it gets a fair enough assessment. I like it a lot, but it is flawed.
>>570187247awesome
>>570191739I like all the games, but VI and IX are the only ones to give me a strong "I'm ready for the game to end now" feeling by the time it was over
ix overstaying its welcome when you take into account they expected you to play like 10 minutes at a time cuz muh portable instead of sitting down for 6 hours with your DS plugged into the socket (what everyone actually did)
getting rare items from tombola's and enemy encounters is hard.
>>570199752What are you trying to get?
>>570201720they always leave gwaelin out of the orange hair lineups even though she is the original :(
>>570201901She's too powerful
Less than half a year until a new dqm!
>>570202171She’s so fucking sexy
>>570091383Is it going to turn out the waterfall Roto visited in their dreams is Angel Falls?
>>570191739I rate it so low because the ending makes me sad :(
I like how Personel holds the Siren Sword like it's a greatsword.ngl, I was half anticipating Matilda to be able to use it too.
>>570122335Okay but who's son becomes the legendary hero?
>>570221078they take turns, everyone gets two days a week and Sundays off
Wouldn't mind DQ 4 being 2DHD and DQ5 being released by TOSE with Monster gameplay.
>>570121116>>570121389DQ already has its share of referential games. People are just incapable of seeing the bigger picture whenever you see any cameo character.
>>570182924DQ1 is
4 should be hd2d to go in line with the other nes games, 5 should be in the style of monsters4 and 6 should be in the style of 11 and include the option to switch to the original graphics mimicking 11s retro mode
>>570239238>6 should be in the style of 11 and include the option to switch to the original graphics mimicking 11s retro modeHoly shit and that would play into the two worlds thing too kinda, square enix is too dumb for that though even though it’s genius
Are the remakes for I-II worth it I played a bit of the snes version but got wrecked hardthen I decided to check the remakes and the first game got a fucking cutscene that didnt exist on the first game lol
>>570243234Theyre good, but they're basically whole new games. Everything from the originals is there but so much has been added that the experience is totally different.
>>570243234As for the remakes, 1 is only hard sometimes when you get outnumbered something that wasn't possible before but otherwise shouldn't give you too much trouble.
>>570243234>and the first game got a fucking cutscene that didnt exist on the first game loland that's...bad?
>>570243234Most people tend to think 1 HD2D is a bit overkill but interesting and 2 HD2D is great but basically an entirely different game. The originals are good games but if you don't think you'd appreciate them but still like that sort of "classic" 2D JRPG feel then you are literally the target audience of the new games. But maybe give the SNES remakes another try they aren't too hard once you get the hang of them.
>>5702432341hd is like a side grade because how different it is and 2hd i like less than original, it doesn’t feel as free and i think the characterization of the cast is not what i imagined or would have wanted, the dialogue is also incredibly eye rolly and cringe. very very very forced moments of “hey we are different than the monsters! we don’t fight each other we work together!” repeated and spammed multiple fucking times like the exact same conclusion even though we could already see it our self we didn’t need to me told it like we are fucking 3 years old genuine dog shit writing
>>570252267and characters that were evil being given wiggle room to be “oh actually this is why they are evil! pls feel bad for them slightly pls!” when it wasn’t needed at all but that’s like the dragon quest remake games favorite thing to do they did it in iv ds and it was gay as well
>>570243234imo they're both way more preferable to play than their original counterparts. II in particular got such an insane glow up for what I used to consider the worst mainline game.
This is who the remakes are for, people that never liked the original games and need cutscene spam and told over and over again how you are supposed to feel instead of being shown it “wow we are really close and together” “wow we are together and close and together!” “wow in this journey we have really grown close and we are also together!” “wait…we don’t fight alone we fight together!” “hey that thing you just saw? let me explain to you the exact conclusion we want you to take away from it instead of you using your brain! bad guys lonely!!! us together!!!”>>570252625
>>570253119Its so funny how much of a meltdown you're having over being in the minority about the remakes.
>>570252267>>570252472Completely agree about the main party in 2 HD but I thought the villains were fine. Hargon gets a motivation but he's still treated as evil, and most of his minions are fun characters. It's not nearly as bad as remake Psaro and not even in the same galaxy as DQM3 Psaro where he totally didn't do the bad stuff he blatantly did in DQ4, we promise he's a good boy.
>>570253514Im literally right though, nearly everyone that compliment it goes “i never liked the original but-“ same with 7re. You can disagree with my opinion but im not wrong about that part, these were made for people that didn’t like the originals, unlike 3 which was clearly made for the fans of it
>>570252267>the dialogue is also incredibly eye rolly and cringeSometimes I wonder what was the writer of II doing while writing the dialoguesThere are a bunch of dialogues shitting on the Prince of Lauresia because he doesn't have magic that feel like the trigger of some isekai web novel revenge plotAnd then there is the Princess of Samantoria saying that those that cannot protect their family cannot protect the world in front of the other Princess after her whole family had just been massacred
>>570253563The one that bothered me the most actually was the human thief. “Yeah he isn’t actually doing it because he is corrupt and greedy and wants money showing a good example of how not just monsters are evil but humans can be too and are just as easily corrupt, instead he has a sick bitch at home and reaaaaally needs medicine to save her and this mean ol monster is manipulating him!! humans can do no wrong!!”
>>570254118Oh, I completely forgot about that. Yeah, that sucked. I expected that plot point to come back later somehow, but it never did.
>>570254330Just a random ass retcon for no reason
>>570254330Marvel tier writing. They changed someone else too to have stole something to protect the villagers instead of it being him just having sticky fingers. Think it was the floodgate key guy? Hated it
>>570253680>Im literally right though, nearly everyone that compliment it goes “i never liked the original but-“Doesn't change the fact that you're having a melty over most people enjoying them, like you could have left your post at >This is who the remakes are for, people that never liked the original gamesinstead of going on a tirade about how you can't stand the power of friendship or whatever.Anyways have you considered that the originals are pretty hard to like in the first place? 1 is a grinding simulator where you will spend more time grinding for levels and gold than you do walking around the map, you can walk over every tile in the entire game three times over and you will still be nowhere near high enough level to tackle the Dragonlord. 2 is infamously rushed with a horrendous endgame that has a massive grind wall again like in 1, but now with the added RNG hell of enemies and even a boss kamikazeing to a 100% instant kill on your whole party and the final boss can just full heal himself cause fuck you. Genuinely that endgame is exactly what tanked my opinion of 2 to the point of being below even 1.>same with 7reDespite them gutting the game for people that don't like 7, I've not seen a single person care for 7re that didn't like the original.
>>570253817>Sometimes I wonder what was the writer of II doing while writing the dialoguesAsking grok to finish the dialogue for him>>570255468Here’s the funny thing anon, I actually am a big sucker for the power of friendship. Especially when you see and watch it grow with your very own eyes and through joining together they conquer their biggest obstacle! You know what I don’t like? When you don’t see the growth at all and are instead told it again and again “hey we are actually really close!” “hey we are actually growing closer!” “hey we’ve made it so far because we are together and they aren’t!” “hey you know that cutscene you just saw where once monster sabotaged the other? they aren’t actually a team unlike us i bet you couldn’t tell that at all!!!!!!” Also you don’t have to grind much in 1 kek, sorry that you hate interacting with the gameplay part of an rpg little puppy
>>570255468>tiradeNTA but the game is actually like that, there are tons of cutscenes where the cousins pat each other on the back and recite extremely obvious things. They get some good stuff too but the ratio is way off.
>>570255468>You could have just not criticized thingDisney adult defense kek
>>570255468good thing the super fami, gb and mobile releases already fixed the balancing issues in those games years ago
Did we get our own dedicated autist?We're growing up, /dqg/!
>>570255951>>570256053I really don't see the issue with it, it really never came off as overdone to me throughout my playthrough.>Also you don’t have to grind much in 1 kek, sorry that you hate interacting with the gameplay part of an rpg little puppyI knew you were going to say some nonsense like this lol. You do have to grind a lot, you sound like a larper who has only played the SNES/GBC version.And it goes beyond just the final grind, you need to grind to have the best gear possible just to get around the world in the first place, 1 is extremely padded with grinding, grinding is almost all the game has to offer, and if you have an unfortunate name for your hero, the grind is even longer because despite them going for a sort of tradeoff deal with the different stat growths, having a high strength just stat outclasses everything else by leaps and bounds and is what makes the real difference.
>>570256147It was criticized fine here >>570252267This >>570253119 is just someone having a meltdown
>>570257195>I really don't see the issue with it, it really never came off as overdone to me throughout my playthrough.Agree to disagree I guess, but I was pretty disappointed with how the main cast were handled overall, and despite having so much dialogue they're probably still the weakest "real" party in the series. I really wish they'd trimmed down the cutscenes a bit and included party chat. My issue is really only with DQ2's party though, I mostly really liked the bad guys and I also adored Gwaelin in DQ1.
4chan ate my reply so i have to retype>>570257101Yeah he is special i guess >>570257195It was very very overdone and eye rolly, but since youre retarded you are probably used to being babied and coddled so it didn’t register as out of place to you. Oh nooo you used the larper wooord!!! I losstttt!!! I played the original kid, there are for more grindier rpgs on the NES. I’m sorry you have to interact with the gameplay of an rpg, i know it’s hard for you since youre used to mommy holding your hand while you get on the bus. It’s okay, i get it.
>>570257946Also really enjoyed Gwaelins characterization in it. Was exactly as i imagined and her little voice lines while in combat were chefs kiss
>>570257223she’s hotter than her sister, i said it
DQ2 main issue used to be balancing, specially the original.
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>>570259553fine I'll replay Joker 3 againanother 100 hours down the drain...
>>570258460Its so funny how you try to claim you played the original and that its not grindy, but then you get so triggered by even just the potential of being called a larper.>there are for more grindier rpgs on the NESIt doesn't matter that there are grindier RPGs on NES, DQ1 is still very grindy, especially for what little meat the game actually has to offer.>I'm sorry you have to interact with the gameplay of an rpgGrinding is not the end all be all of an RPG doofus, its actually really bad when its overdone, its only good in moderation, and it is certainly overdone in DQ1.
>>570259553old platypunk is so cute>>570260049lets fucking go
>>570257101He's not even really melting down tbf. People shitting on everything new sucks but he's explaining his preferences well enough and I agree with some of his points. If you're not at least a little bit passionate about a series it's weird to post in a general devoted to it on a mongolian basketweaving forum. I pray we never get a genuine schizo who derails everything though.
>>570260427>overdone in DQ1Well when you just bought a 50 dollar game in 1986 you would hope you got some good hours out of it because without the grinding you'd be done in like 20 minutes
>>570260427It’s not overdone especially considering we were marking places on the map we got from nintendo power, making are own maps of the dungeons, writing down what each enemy we ran into could do, how many hit points it took to kill them and writing down what each towns shop had and how much it costed + tips from each place. How is fighting enemies not the main part of an rpg? This is classic pen and paper rpg shit, you need more gold to acquire the item in the campaign? do a bunch of small mini dungeons to get gold
>>570261053Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that its poor design.I'm really against using time period to defend or just handwave away flaws in a video game because if a game was good back then, it should still be good now. I know DQ1 was a novel thing when it came out, but the novelty wore off decades ago.
>>570262946Still great to this day. You just have fried dopamine receptors and are used to hand holding in games and from your momma
>>570262847The thing is you can do all that, but by time you reach the final dungeon, you are underpowered, the enemies are strong as hell and even when you grab Erdrick's Sword, you still aren't going to even be able to scratch the Dragonlord, you just have to grind grind and grind until your strength stat is high enough. I literally said in my initial post about the game that you can walk every tile in the game three times over, but that still won't be enough. There is a very good reason why they toned the grind down in the remakes, it wasn't good design, and people didn't like dealing with it.>>570263161You can project all you want, but I primarily play older games.If you want an example of a better game on the same console, I can tell you that Megami Tensei is holds up way way WAY better than DQ1.
>>570263668Beaten by the rat...
>>570263969We also lost to Cloud and Tifa
>>570262946Right but DQ is a direct product of its time period. Most games were either stupid hard are padded like DQ because they had less storage on them than a png file, so they needed to artificially add length. It's only "poor" now because we've been used to far better.
>>570263668>>570263969>>570264237It's Square Enix's own fault for not making their games more accessible. Even in Japan the only way to play IV-VI is on mobile and needless to say long form RPGs aren't fitting for mobile when you can just be playing a gacha instead (not that anyone plays the DQ mobage)Their hold on Japan is dying because they refused to globalize (sadly). And I'm not saying pander to the West, I'm just saying TRY to make the work accessible at all
>>570265536agree, imagine having this >>570259553 and going "yeah lets' leave that on the 3DS forever"
