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#1299: Tropical Vacation Edition
Previous: >>570827495

This general is for the discussion of original, fan made, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.

>/mmg/ news
Mega Man Starforce Legacy Collection out now https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQ
Mega Man Dual Override announced for 2027 https://youtu.be/8i97QCOWSC4
Rockman EXE Phantom of Network PC Port
https://github.com/StraDaMa/PoN_PC
New official licensed smartwatch pre-order announced, a new way to Mega Man 2

>Fan game news:
Mega Man: The Rise of Ra Moon
https://gamejolt.com/games/MM25_2/566983
Mega Man 64
https://github.com/MegaMan64Recomp/MegaMan64Recompiled
Mega Man DXtreme
https://youtu.be/C9_ykoYqm44
Mega Man X Viral Nightmare
https://youtu.be/AVToZHXwlsE
Mega Man W
https://megamanw.com/

>/inti/ news:
Kingdom's Return out now https://youtu.be/uOW6WmLpUkU
Majogami out now on PS5 https://youtu.be/-j3Rl762aT4
Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 1+2 Dual Collection releasing on 7/9/2026 https://youtu.be/gvB2DzQ24Q4
Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 3 coming in 2027 https://youtu.be/R9-kBPHYMPs
Gunvolt Trilogy Enhanced Switch 2 Edition coming in 2026 https://youtu.be/TuAm0HVVkVE
Something Gal*Gun/Guardians related has been teased in Famitsu's 40th anniversary spread with artwork featuring two new characters
Huge revamp to the Gunvolt Triangle Edition site
https://gunvolt.com/TE/en/

>Other:
Translations of Classic mangas on mangadex
Despite no longer being in the game this is the X dive alt with more fanart after UAX and Black Zero

>DiVE Links
rentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)

>Koikatsu
rentry.org/mmgintikk

>Melt Stuff
rentry.org/mmelt melt 2 its real

>Game Downloads
rentry.org/mmglinks
Has all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files

>Audiovisual Media
rentry.org/mmgintimedia
Contains:Cartoons, Anime, Comics, Manga and other printed media - Music Playlists and albums
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I love my wife Misora Hibiki!
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>>571177987
Don't blame you, definitely one of the sexiest characters from the RPG side of the franchise
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>>571173690
Yes, but would you be able to handle adult Zonda:

https://voca.ro/12ipj08dslzd
https://voca.ro/11u0UFIZCtVw

Translations for lines:

Giggle

Dakitomete!
Hold me tight!

Giggle

Tamaranaa~i!
I can't hold out anymore!

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Kore ga… anata no ai…!
So this is... your love...!

Itami mo mata… ai no katachi…!
Pain, too... is a form of love...!

One thing I noticed was that the pain grunts of real and female adult Zonda are similar-ish. Same VA, so makes sense, right?

https://voca.ro/13C7V6PUglTA
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>>571177714
Little too similar to the last OP but whatever
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>>571178496
I'm not attracted to the big tiddy Zonda, just her real self; that said I would be ridiculously erect at true Zonda wearing her mirage's armed outfit
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>>571178496
If the mirage Zonda fight had been the real final battle there'd be nothing to complain about. It's actually fun and had two games of narrative buildup.
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After I lost, I awoke stripped of all my gear and tied to a pole, when these two monsters slithered into my peripheral vision and announced that I am to be their boy-toy slave from here on out. Exhausted and battered as I was, I prepared an attack, ready to reward their foolishness with my lightning of justice. But then, they began making out with one another like they were characters in one of Xeno's terrible cartoons. They kept breaking off and staring at me. I don't understand. Is this a distraction tactic? Please advise.
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>>571171586
This damn brat is gonna bully me out of so much money with her prismatic full art. Also no, Inti does not have that sort of money anything. If they did, Majogami would be getting one.
>>571149854
I think that it was the right call. Nobody should be able to stand up to ZZero besides X going all out. That's the main gripe that I have with Axl. Somehow he's able to keep up with X and Zero.
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Why'd they remove all the Dub VAs?
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>>571181035
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>>571181035
Not enough money to pay them. Not even dub Cope's VA who went to be a vtuber, played gunvolt once and never touched inti games again.
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>>571181035
holy based
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The moon is beautiful tonight
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>>571181746
The moon was destroyed though.
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>>571178496
>Copen's archenemy, his "Nova," is a staid loli adept supremacist who is obsessed with love and has a hidden lewd side
Why does that work so well for him?
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>>571182515
You forgot
>is the source for RoRo loving him
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>>571181849
>The moon was [Headcanon]
moon is intact and better than ever.
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>>571178736
I was going to make this OP, but whatever.

MM original vs her grimdark GV counterpart. Which side are you on?
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>>571182515
To seriously answer this, it plays into his "crusader" theme that got toned down a bit after the first game but is still prevalent in every game: what better villain for someone who considers himself damned but fighting for God's glory than an embodiment of passion and one of the deadly seven sins, quite literally an avatar of temptation, who considers him a target for her love?
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>>571183481
Ciel is too nice, she'd never make it
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>>571183298
We're just faking her existence with a clone after she got fisted from behind in front of Geo while calling his name out.
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>>571183481
Maybe a white background would be better. The transparency (PNG) is too big for 4chan.
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>>571183481
Who's lewder, fandom Ciel or Pantera?
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>>571183692
>>571183481
People always say Zonda = Ciel, but is she? She's Elpiss with some Albert. I don't see any Ciel in her, aside from being a cute girl.
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>>571183946
No, she's Ciel too. Many of her positive traits are taken from Ciel. She has genius in her repertoire, and she has an Olga-like character she considers her little sister in the audio drama. What is driving her is closest to what drive's Ciel, even if her means are closer to Elpizo. She's strongly idealistic and moved by the plight of adepts, whereas Elpizo is driven by emotions and feelings on inadequacy and vengeance. Finally, how she's perceived within Eden is closer to how Ciel is perceived within the Resistance than how Elpizo is viewed.
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>>571181035
Didn't they say at BitSummit that Gunvolt GX will in fact have an English dub?
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>>571183605
Also the fact that he can look even more like a meany when he pistol whips her.
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>>571185012
That Zonda face is her when first seeing nine inches of cock
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>>571185178
Please don't.
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>>571184730
>Many of her positive traits
hahaha...
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>>571185552
What? You think she's the only antagonist with no good qualities?
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>>571185324
I want to give Zonda all the love she could ask for and then some, by extension that includes sex
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>>571185908
I think her fake forms reveal her to be a cruel hypocrite deep down, even more so than Asimov. Asimov isn't sadistic, he's ruthless. He shot Joule because she was inconvenient. Zonda enjoys hurting and toying with people. Asimov had good traits. He's twisted, but he actually loved Gunvolt and raised him, just like he loved Moniqa. It won't stop him from killing them, because he's crazy and kills as easily as he breathes. So yes, I think of the big bads, she's the worst, which is why she doesn't get any sympathy or fanfare when she dies unlike everyone else. They just kill her and move on because she that is all she deserves.
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>>571183481
>>571183692
Saliva edit
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>>571183481
Lesbianism is just a tactic adepts use to make minos men lower their guard and get close.
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>>571186981
It looks like despite Zonda's more assertive kissing style, Ciel is still winning.
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>>571185917
That's a lot of love.
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>>571183481
Are there any new Zonda or Gibril in a bikini or a swimsuit pics this year?
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>>571188049
Her final form is like a bikini.
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>>571186348
Disagree, Zonda at bare minimum deserves enough loving that she can just be in the moment and forget about everything else for a while
>>571187805
Indeed it is, she'll be overflowing in more ways than one if you catch my drift
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>>571188149
A sexy leotard a bikini does not make.
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phantom should have exploded every game
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>>571188463
Disagree. Zonda at bare minimum deserves the showers like every filthy adept shit.
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>>571183605
If this was GalGun instead of GunVolt, the good end would be giving in to LOVE.
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>>571188804
If he exploded every game that'd be rude.
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>>571188923
I know this isn't the intent of what you're saying, but I'd love pressing Zonda against the wall for steamy shower sex
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>>571188542
...will this get nuked if it were to be used as an OP?
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>>571189073
Question, can you call it giving into love if my goal is to outlove Zonda
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>>571183812
"Fandom" Ciel as in what you posted, where she's corrupted into being lewd? That for sure, because there's no limit to how lewd she can get.

>>571183946
No, not really.

>>571187606
No, not really.
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>>571183946
>>571192604
Is there a Ciel in Gunvolt?
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>>571192823
Mytyl.

>>571183946
Zonda is like Elpizo without any of the humanizing traits. Her beliefs are closer to Albert. INTI decided not to give her a sympathetic death like Elpizo or Nova for a reason, and that's because she's a souless monster.
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Aside from the secret ending, why does Xiao completely drop from the plot after Belladen 03 (Savior)? Why does Gunvolt never mention him again?

We never see GV or Quinn interact with the guy again. Xiao was considered by GV to be like a little brother to him. You would think he might get some attention, but there is nothing. Nori got to meet Copen after the final battle, and that chapter in their relationship had reached a conclusion. Xiao isn't mentioned once again, even in GV3. Unlike Quinn, they never explain what happened between him and Gunvolt.

For comparison, in most Gunvolt endings, there is some conclusion to the group. Gunvolt ran into Moniqa and Xeno right before the credits rolled, and because he was unwilling to explain himself, caused the group to fall apart. With the Dragon Saviors, we see them tackling the dragon radiation issues after GV departs, and then again in ATEMs.

So why is that the case? Why NOTHING?
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>>571192823
No, not really. The world might be better off if there was, though.
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>>571183946
No, it's all Elpizo and Albert. Her intelligent and cult traits come from Albert. It's why I think she's an actual sociopath and the games all hilariously treat her death like it's something we should enjoy and be happy about. Even in GV3, she's one of the few Gunvolt is kind of proud of killing. Like INTI is doing a really uphill battle trying to turn an Alice character and imouto into a hatesink to a bunch of greasy weebs.
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>>571193872
GV2's ending is kind of shit. I'm starting to think that the grimderpness and coldness/edginess/hollowness of the ending was an unintentional side effect of running out time and/or budget. If they had the time, they would have delivered something sad, but balanced by hope and catharsis instead of the complete misery we got.

GV2 seems to ultimately prove Copen and Zonda right in the end that different groups can't get along, understanding cannot be reached and is useless (nobody even attempts to understand other perspectives), violence is the only means to break cycles of hate, and killing them all is the only/best path forward (after all, killing every single Eden member they could find was what solved the problem), which I don't know if that's what they were going for with their messaging.
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>>571196507
>I don't know if that's what they were going for with their messaging.
It was. Quinn was a literal afterthought and such a limp-wristed attempt to introduce a tolerance character, and Tenjian and several other characters make fun of GV's logic that the existence of 1 character who was sheltered and blind to the racial conflict not be a racist is enough to refute all of their arguments and traumatic experiences.

Gunvolt is a subversion of shonen cliches. Redemption, coexistence, undestanding one another; all of these are just naive ideals. People will never get along together, violence is the best tool for dealing with differences, and nakama is meaningless in the face of strength and ruthlessness. Just look at what happened to the G7+Zonda friends for life vs GV with his dysfunctional groups that he always abandons at the end.
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tl;dr
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>>571193872
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>>571190435
I think we've used it as an OP before.
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Mega Man X Recompiled
https://github.com/mstan/MegaManXSNESRecomp
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>>571196507
Don't care. The shittiness and depression you feel at the end was what made it great and defined Gunvolt for me.

>>571197712
That's why we liked early Gunvolt. It looks and feels like a cool shonen anime, but it's more like a seinen in its desolation and cynicism. Even dark shonen allows the heroes to make things better or achieve some personal happiness. GV gets neither. Gunvolt is like classic nihilistic cyberpunk. The only people who have happy endings are rich old politicians taking advantage of hate and Sumeragi executives who profit off of misery. For everyone else there is no way out of this hell that doesn't lead to something worse, despite GV's power.
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>>571188149
I think if true Zonda were to have a weaponized form, it'd look like a sluttier version of Elpizo's 1st combat form than her fake form.
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>>571201316
DOS is the only PC port I need
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>>571197712
>GV with his dysfunctional groups that he always abandons at the end.
GV's groups aren't dysfunctional? Asimov happened in GV1, and he had to leave Quinn and Xiao because of Dragon stuff. His group in GV3 are very close. And why does everyone say Eden are nakama? Nothing in game shows it so. There love is all shown to be fake cult stuff.
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>>571201316
holy shit

also fucken delivered where tokyoscarab did not
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>>571202362
>GV1
Asimov, as you mentioned. Though friends, outside of Asimov, his relationship felt more like a work relationship with QUILL.

>GV2
Xiao was manipulating all sides to get the pendant, especially Gunvolt. The entire conflict may have been set up by him. GV also considers Joule to be a curse, while Joule has a lot of tension with Quinn.

>GV3
First time he's actually had a nakama going on, but he's torn away by Morb. Still, he doesn't have an interesting dynamic with many of them.

>Why Eden nakama
Because Zonda plays into the nakama clichés a lot with them and Eden's Party makes them look like a nakama. They're comfortable around each other enough to let their masks slip. They will rib each other and butt heads, yet they enjoy being around and feel like they'd die for each other.

It's hard to describe. Sometimes with GV and iX, their group members feel too nice, like they aren't willing to tell a joke or poke fun at each other because they're afraid to offend, or they're putting on an act (and in a few cases, they are). They never really feel like they open up. Friends will get on each other's nerves and are awkward around one another at times. Although, they're not mean or resentful about it, like Joule vs Quinn.
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Fresh Lola and Lumen.
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>>571187519
>Lesbianism
I read that as Lebensraum at first, and it still worked.
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>>571194226
>>571192823
I can't think of a single competent nonadept who advocates for adepts in Gunvolt.

Copen is supposed to be the Weil analogue.
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Now we know who is the next one to wear the modest wedding dress.
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>>571207553
Sequin Land has very adept-like customs doesn't it.
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>>571187519
You think you're in the clear and then bam, tag teamed.
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>>571193872
I would say Xiao erased himself from GV's memory or something, but he appears in an image pulse and joke ending. Maybe GV doesn't think it's important. There are plenty of things that are/would be important to the audience that aren't to the characters, so don't ever get brought up.
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SotD characters may be sexier and/or look cooler, but Demon Purge characters were more memorable and charming. Anyone else agree?
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>>571213347
That's because GalGun is just really good.
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>>571213952
Mytyl's health improves when around the mirror shards. Say Joule moves in with her. Would that improve her condition? How would Joule deal with the revelation of being a human glaive for another adept?
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>>571214175

Put all 130 cms under one roof. Let Copen and Nori deal with them.
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>>571214175
Knowing how her septima works you might end up with both of them merged by accident out of the blue.
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Falzarbros....
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>>571219692
Greg is an ally of justice.
Birds can't be trusted.
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Covers for the next Udon series comic. Why it could not have been ZX instead?
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So what was gonna be today's melt?
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>>571221872
Isn't it 2.2
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GV3's end bosses had the best gameplay and most anime spectacle, but I think design wise, they were less interesting than Nova and Zonda's designs.
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Do you prefer your wifebots with dolljoints?
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>>571222519
correct
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INTI will not be taking advantage of the Alice craze like other "indy" studios.
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>>571224947
Inti's too busy begging Yacht club for money instead.
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>>571213347
Aside from subweapons being shit, the demon maids feel better to play than the Kamizonos, but the level, enemy, and encounter design are nowhere near as tight. Some of this would be forgivable, since we're comparing a true metroidvania against something closer to a classicvania, but there are so many tedious elements like the fast travel that make it a real chore.
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>>571224947
Wow! Haven't seen that happen since the Scrap Kong T shirt.
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>>571224947
It wasn't even a good shirt. That's how thirsty they are for her. They introduced a genius antivillain trickster who's quiet, calm, collected, mysterious, and with a slight air of temptation/sensuality, and all the little girls (and boys) went wild for her. Did you know the adult Japanese fans call her (loli) mommy partially because she talks all prim and proper like a freaky adult? You can understand why INTI avoids it.
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>>571227041
>(loli) mommy
>is 16
>born in 1983
She's a hag.
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>>571181035
Is there a reason for Gunvolt to be a tummy slut?
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>>571227041
>Japanese fans
>writing is clearly chinese
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>MEGAMAN x FORTNITE - LIKELY IN THE WORKS
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>>571227410
Yeah, mommyshit is more of a Chinese fetish. I'm pretty sure Japs would be focused on the "loli" part of the equation.
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>>571219692
Based bird will come one day. Trust the plan.
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>>571227297
Lightning lives in the stomach.
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>>571227786
>he doesn't know
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>>571227786
>>571227410
I got it from somebody else who was talking about Japanese fan reaction beforehand, and didn't check properly.

I am off to kill myself of embarrassment now.
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>>571228176
Make sure to poison Zonda properly this time.
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>>571225361
>>571213347
Is SotD worth $18?
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>>571228685
He can get GV and Joule's help too.
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>>571228782
Not even one dollarydoo
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>>571228782
Right now it's at like $9
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Gal*Gun is significantly discounted over on Green Man Gaming if anyone is interested.

GGR $4.75
DP $6.75
GG2 $6.75
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>>571231246
I already own it twice over. Except Double Peace, that's one I own thrice.
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After a long wait, we are back with episode 1 of The 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Rebirth (a.k.a Super Robot Wars Z2 Saisei-hen). The Z2-Taisen will never end.

https://parsec.gg/g/38gXmTiAVEvCVv85P6Krz86iKwm/wmclfadb/

At the end of Ruin (Hakai-Hen), our old pals in > were living happily ever after after defeating Gaioh in the Ruin Incident. With the whole world united after that battle, how could anything go wrong?

Starting in XX:00

Expect bugs/crashes, numerous untranslated things, numerous incorrectly translated things, and a new wave of bugs from an entirely new hack.
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>>571224947
>>571227041
>international appeal, people go rabid over her, solely carrying the show, sells out so fast GW is taking notes
>inti: "b-but loli. . . think of the modern audience, no one wants Pantera. . . ."
Oh boy. I wonder if she'll have a Rebecca or Diana effect in the west.
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>>571232075
Does the west give a shit about PreCure? I know they did Glitter Force once upon a time but those times are long gone.
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>>571232003
I hope we can get past the prologue
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>>571232475
surely we're not going to be autistic about maxing out kills there (do they carry over?)
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>>571232075
>>571227264
If anything you're getting fake Zonda again.
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>>571232589
No they don't and the prologues don't matter except for one single thing
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>>571232659
Inti would bitch out like that nowadays.
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>>571232075
Doubt it. Rebecca and Diana hurt them because she was tied to a product aimed specially at the normalfags. Precure does not do that.
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I want to give Zonda an extremely long and sloppy kiss with no opportunity to take a breath
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>>571232003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6HKEN-OpWI
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>>571233295
Hurt Inti because they weren't taken badly probably. Hurt Capcom then no.
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>Dr. K + Sumeragi propaganda states that adepts have turned the entire outside world into Fallout since most of them are like the Raptor
>Sumeragi has to maintain the barrier to keep outside nations from attacking them for being dicks
>Ending of GV1 was almost Japan getting nailed with missiles once their barrier fell
>Enemies of GV2 were almost a group of allied nations
>Eden's backstories reference states with governments all the time
>Eden routinely fight against military forces of governments, especially China
>GV2 reveals most adepts have powers that can't be used offensively
>Governments routinely organize adept suppression and oppression to varying degrees of success
>GV3 is implied to have a very active geopolitical scene
>Outside of freakishly strong adepts like Nova, GV, Zonda, which are extremely rare, notably strong adepts are like Viper or the Raptor, who act on a squad level
>Mirage party shows that adepts are not inherently violent and could have been integrated into society, leading to an even better world than before adepts emerged

Everything since Fleeting Memory seems to contradict what it stated on adepts.
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>>571234012
Maybe Dr Hitler and the evil mega corporation were not entirely truthful in their propaganda to keep doing horrible things to adepts.
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>>571234012
It's almost like Fleeting Memories is mostly told from the viewpoints of a man who wants to eradicate all that is supernatural because it's degenerate and a boy who lost most of his family to the Raptor, and one of the stated themes of Gunvolt by Tai and Tsuda was the dangers of a one-sided perspective. But don't tell the Copefags that.
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tl;dr: Fuck adept fucking shits, fuck Copen, and fuck adept sympathizer shits
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>>571234865
I'll happily fuck Zonda in the ass if that's what you're trying to say
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>>571234865
Agreed, adepts and adept sympathizers like me should fuck.
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>>571234475
>the dangers of a one-sided perspective
>Games refuse to tell the perspective of your enemies and makes all conflicts look one-sider black and white.
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>>571236525
You play as a gullible dolt, yes.
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>>571183298
Zangetsu clearly cut her in half
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>>571237125
One of the reasons he gets so upset at Nova is that he starts doing the "I am the electric sword of God come to judge you for your sins" routine, and Nova reverses it back at him, stripping all context of his actions to frame everything he did in the worst light, getting him to finally say at the end that he is the evil villain by Nova's definition, and he doesn't care so long as he saves Joule.
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>>571183179
It's going to suck when they finally do the love conquers hate, and it's Asimov/Moniqa. You know it's going to happen.

>But Copen/Zonda

Too based for INTI and not substantiated. The shards stuff and Mother is cool, and Zonda at least seems to respect Copen more than she does Gunvolt, but they've never once interacted normally. I don't think INTI has ever once paired up archenemies before.

Eden's not getting redeemed since they're just evil racist who will die, but they will redeem Asimov. Search your heart, you know this to be true.
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>>571240521
I refuse you.
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>>571240521
I accept you.
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Do you a) marry an adept; or b) buy a reploid?
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>>571233996
Can you even follow a reply chain?
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>>571244158
Somehow, the adept seem to be the most mentally stable and low maintenance of the two options.
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>>571245778
Can anyone in this general?
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did they keep rolls panties from her figure reissue
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>>571246018
You know, except for her anime eating habits, Lola came off as more normal than Copen when she was transformed into a human.
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>>571183481
>>571186981
Ciel couldn't pull away even if she wanted because Pantera is stronger than her, right?
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>>571232659
Is real Zonda in INTI's range now? Kaito (GV) is probably the most expensive guy they have, but that makes sense. Just to give you an idea, he voices Dimitri in Fire Emblem.
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>>571247060
God I hope so, imagine being overpowered by 130cm.
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>>571249620
I forgot there was a new Ranma
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>>571249939
They censored the tits, it sucks now. As in literally the nipples are gone its just breasts with no nipples.
Fucking uncanny.
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>>571250675
What happened to anime? How did it come to this?
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>>571250883
The West.
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>>571196507
Here's a Jap post from a while back concerning the ending:

GV編、初回クリア。

テンジアンの相討ち技、初見殺しもいいとこ。
SONG OF DIVAが発動する。
避ける方法はあるのか?

続いてボスラッシュの後、パンテーラと対決。
撃破後からは撮影不可区域になる。

あまりにも残酷な結末。
真エンドで救われるのか?

>Cleared the GV route for the first time.

>Tenjian’s mutual-destruction move is a classic "gotcha" attack—it catches you completely off guard the first time.
>"SONG OF DIVA" activates.
>Is there actually a way to dodge it?

>Next came the boss rush, followed by a showdown with Pantera.
>Playing is prohibited past the point when the enemy is defeated.

>An utterly cruel ending.
>Will there be salvation in the true ending?

It's always fun reading these blind reactions. They think that this is the bad end and that the True End will give them a shot at some happiness. Boy, are they in for a SURPRISE!

I think that feeds into the anger. The True End is a pain in the ass to unlock, but you hold out hope the entire time. Maybe it'll be like GV1, and there will be some silver linings. And then your reward is another sucker punch, but the game tells you to smile and bear it.
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>>571251598
What's so sad about the normal end? The true end is where all the sad stuff starts. Chap 4 of Garden is when it is confirmed that Mytyl and Joule died. The entire time in Zonda's fight, I was sure that Joule would be coming back to me after I killed Zonda and everything would be okay, especially after GV said she was killing Zonda from within. Wasn't until next chapter where it was confirmed that the worst had happened. If the game had just end on Chap 3 of Garden, it would have been hopeful and little happy.
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>>571251926
>especially after GV said she was killing Zonda from within
I guess you could say that was Cope.
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>>571249620
>in INTI's range now
lol
lmao even
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>>571228782
Yeah.
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>>571251926
Even without the Joule stuff, Belladen is very depressing. Suicidal Eden soldiers, Tenjian telling you about his past and suiciding himself to protect his sister, the rematch with the G7, and everything else.

If you don't unlock the true end, the last fight of the game is Zonda. She's not a malicious person, just misguided. If you understand everything she's saying, it sucks. It's a shame the English translations decide to leave some of the dialog unsubbed, because for some bosses, it greatly characterizes them, and Zonda is one such character. Her damage lines are about reassuring herself and how she needs to guide everyone to paradise. And then her death line is a miserable way of ending the game, terrified and sobbing for Tenjian.
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>>571252696
You'd never guess who's ZED's VA was.
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>>571254042
Oh, you have got to be shitting me.
>look it up
Yeah, if they got that guy voicing ZED, than Kaori is on the table. She's several tiers lower than him.
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>>571254042
Inti done fucked up not getting the meme va to shill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOpC5TODhU8
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>>571254042
you're implying inti has funding left to hire after that
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>>571251926
You thought you'd be getting Joule back, but it was me! Lumen!
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Thanks all for joining the first episode of The 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Rebirth - After The Ruin
It turns out uniting the world is a bad idea...

do folks want link
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>>571254993
I'll wait until we've progressed more to tinker with it, I don't remember how stages play out so I want to melt them first.
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>>571254042
Goes from loser simp self insert to harem guy.
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>>571254993
might as well post it in srwg
>>571255134
I guess it kind of fits
still not beating literally gemini
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>>571254418
>voices the Genshin MC too
Who knew ZEDO was such a nob.
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I wish I had Elise to comfort me in these trying times.
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>>571255831
could use more polish and fixes first
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>>571256137
They really like putting random ass images from Geass in the games
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>>571256043
I wish I had Elise to comfort in these trying times.
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>>571254418
I don't know why this place bought into the "Zonda VA too expensive" meme so hard in the first place when the entire ATEMS cast is on a higher tier than her these days plus they hired the fucking Goku/Luffy lady for Majogami.
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>>571244158
If I get to choose specifics, Zonda will be mine and I'll make sure she's practically drowning in love
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>>571260282
It was a convenient way for Zondafags to cope, but that's also all it ever was.
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>>571260282
It was believable at the time.
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>>571257440
They really would be the best couple. Elise gets to kill and bring back someone really into it. Gerbil gets dommed and doms in turn.
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Hi. I kept hearing Error 403 warnings on Dot Abyss. I want to ask you guys, for those playing the brothel game, do you all want a Global server that is split between the full SFW and NSFW X version only handled by Fakku? I swear, it will be a genuine hit.
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>>571268461
Wrong Pride.
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>>571249779
Yeah, imagine getting bossed around and harrased by a 130cm tall deviant with the sex drive of a hentai game MC. Now that I think about it Majogami even stole the lolibaba idea from Witchcrafter. Also, strange that we haven't had a lolibaba adept 6 (7 tecnically) games in this series.
>>571250675
Ranma was an ecchi comedy first and formost while the battles were just slapstick outside a very few ones. Now it's a proper shonen with a little bit more focus on the romance.
>>571250883
Netflix bought it.
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>>571272312
Forgot the pic.
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>>571271381
KnightMan Cross Fusion is sleek enough. Too bad it only appeared twice throughout Stream.
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>megger w has no charge
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>>571277819
inafune won
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>>571277819
Well well well, would you look at that
Sleep it is
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>>571278008
gamer cred debt isn't gonna clear itself
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My internals are melting from the heat.
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>>571272906
pic unrelated
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>>571260282
A seiyuu doesn't have to be too expensive for them to be unavailable for various reasons.
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>>571260282
almost like 90% of the shit you see in this general was completely made up bullshit with a dash of schizophrenia or something
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>>571260282
And now you know why Inti's even more broke.
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>>571249779
Happens way more often than you would think.
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>>571262827
How is it cope? It's heartening, if anything. The VA being too expensive or not being around is insurmountable and has been enough to write characters out or even end anime series as the Japanese are autistic about recasting. Now, like Joule, it's just down to the writers and scheduling.
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>>571283485
Why didn't they use her for GV3?
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>>571283620
She was unavailable throughout all 4 years of development.
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>>571283620
No place to stick real Zonda, and GV doesn't actually feel bad about killing her like the audience does so it wouldn't be that much more dramatic to include her (would be funny to see Kirin's reaction). The theme of the DLC final bosses was that they all had the Azure Striker. Zonda never fights directly unless she's in Wonderland, and having Serp summon THAT would be too much. So only fake Zonda makes sense.
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>>571283620
The reason the Japs suspect is that fighting real Zonda would be too risqué.
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>>571284205
>having Serp summon THAT would be too much
Technically, there's no defined limit to her ability. She lost against Zed because he had no trauma to guilt trip with.
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>>571284390
Shiron's fat ass is more risque.
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The shy Pandore vs the confident Pandora
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>méga man
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>>571285389
the dork
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>>571285389
Why did her head grow in proportion to her egg helmet between games

Aren't they set like 4 years apart
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>>571284205
Kirin would react the same way as she did to Tenjian. She's not Jota, Desna, or Nova, who'd be shocked. The most you might get is Kirin calling Zonda a fake shrine maiden. And on the cuteness front, although Kirin has a weakness for it, she'd find Zonda extremely creepy. Everyone outside of Eden thinks she's creepy in universe. It's only when you get to know her that she reveals her cute side.
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>>571285389
Oh no, here comes Zonda localization round folie le dux.
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>>571286123
zoomed on her face, I do prefer her zx portrait
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>>571285389
Made for instaloss.
Confident Pandora about to get more than she bargained for.
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>>571183605
>who considers him a target for her love?

Do you think Copen enjoyed it as much as Zonda did?
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>>571291137
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>>571291026
Pandora never once walks on her legs. This is OOC.
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How could anyone like Zonda when Joule is right there?
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>>571290161
Solo wouldn't bother thinking of that JOBBER who he always has to save.
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>>571291137
Copen thought he was a big shot, but he's really made for taking backshots.
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Starforce is the least "Mega Man" of any spinoff and I'm tired of pretending it's not. No surprise it got canned.
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How well does she do, assuming geahs are based on lifewave nonsense?
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>>571291905
We can't all have patrician taste.
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>>571291862
we do see her standing on the ground
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Pleased to see at least this particular general knows which side is up in the culture wars
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>>571293647
In that crummy UDON comic?
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>>571293834
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>>571291905
Not into banging sentient tulpas.
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>>571293803
>offtopic bullshit
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>>571294389
>offtopic
>with an OP like that
You like it or not, you're in the culture wars.
Hint: you're on the right side of it.
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>>571294028
Pandora has an invisible anti-gravity forcefield just beneath her feet at all time. You just can't see it in-game because of the low screen resolution.
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>>571292518
>No surprise it got canned.
But SF4 is coming... in the opposite world.
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>>571291905
You know you can like both, right?

But to answer your question, I like Zonda's design, gap moe, and bizarre personality. Zonda is powerful, yet tragic. Like the other major characters, she has some agency, but she's still pulled along and manipulated by others. She has many positive traits and beliefs along with the negatives that make her complex and dynamic. Often times, these negatives are twisted from her positive traits/beliefs informed by the traumas of her and those around her. Like GV, Nova, and Copen, she feels like a character who is in flux and can fall one way or another with the right push.

Joule, on the other hand, is just a very nice girl who gets constant shit due to her horrible luck and GV's fails. She doesn't do story like Zonda or even Kirin, story happens to her. I kind of wished she did have more negative traits to overcome for character development purposes. It's an issue that many of INTI's modern good girls have. I don't understand it, because Joule's creator knew how to write a sympathetic heroine with negative personality traits to work against, and Tai did it back with Gal*Gun and in the audio dramas.

I think that's one of the reasons people make up stuff about her vindictiveness, learned helplessness, or dependency issues. It gives her some spice and something to work against. All of Joule's issues stem from outsiders coming to ruin her life. She has a little bit of jealousy (which gets greatly exaggerated in the 8-4 script), but doesn't have the anger, spite, or close-mindedness issues that GV or Copen have, for instance. Ultimately, she's there to passively support GV and be his "island of peace."
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>>571295170
whatever Jeffrey.
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>>571295706
>a very nice girl who gets constant shit due to her horrible luck
As Mytyl's glaive, she should have never existed.
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>>571293108
In GV terms, Gears are all Muses who can also fight well. They're absolutely busted. Fine nearly destroyed Earth by pulling the moon down on it, and later villains like Shemmy and Carol are stronger than her.
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>>571296038
And Genjuro can 1v1 them with karate. Not particularly impressive.
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>>571295938
>Jeffrey
>in /mmg/+/inti/
Maybe you meant something more like Alejandro.
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Or Pablo
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>>571295706
You described a few of the many reasons why I want to outlove Zonda, correct
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>>571296525
You also have Jerome, he's an intern.
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>>571295706
This post nails why the villain girls have been more popular in Gunvolt than the heroines. The heroines are too safe and don't have the dynamic and contrasting traits, or internal struggle of the villainesses. With villainesses, you sympathize with their good parts and want to see them defeat their bad side, hence all the redemption fantasies. Even somebody like Gibril has likable traits that stand out more starkly against their bad ones. Gibril is one of the most empathetic characters to the injustice committed against adepts, and her hate of nonadepts grows from that empathy. That's a much more interesting dynamic than Quinn's gentle girl is nice to everyone and prays for peace, something which Zonda herself takes and subverts into something captivating.
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>>571297181
>This post nails why the villain girls have been more popular in Gunvolt than the heroines
wow I can't believe such a hard hitting barely tread upon topic was discussed in this thread
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>>571297441
I can't believe you cared.
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>>571291905
I prefer the racist buttball.
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>>571297615
I care about the health of this general to bemoan its state. I'll take the other general over this regurgitated vomit.
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>>571297615
it's not about caring it's just about seeing groundhog day on loop until you eventually figure you can at least point it out while everyone else is stuck in the same pattern
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>>571297616
>racist buttball
>actually has no butt
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>no dive mod that restores roll's original swimsuit
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Her death caused everything to spiral.
The Maya of Gunvolt.
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>>571298793
It's also what freed Gunvolt. Had Joule stuck around, he'd never have undergone character development, and still be treating every problem with a Lux to the face.
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>>571277901
He is too powerful
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>>571297616
>racist

How do you explain this then?

Lola:
>あー、アキュラくんってそういう人?
*Oh*, so that's the kind of person Acura is?

Acura:
>「そういう人」とは…どういう人だ?
“That type of”...? What “type”?

-https://youtu.be/4ReIjGkpkLQ?list=PL3kxMHwzLIFVr1HdpDLoAB83LOnh4kdno&t=149
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>>571264564
It never was if you made the extremely simple effort of checking each VA on any platform displaying the works they're on.
>>571282067
That wasn't the excuse by Zondafags, moreover, her 2021-2022 output doesn't look nearly busy enough for a schedule conflict to be a believable unless Inti deemed her to be extremely unimportant. The real reason was probably that the (ineffective) guilt tripping fights were mostly decided on a gameplay basis so fake Zonda was easier to implement as a boss that can be one shotted in normal mode than a final boss.
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>>571299372
A lux to the face is what every problem deserves though.
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>>571291905
Pantera doesn't have crippling oneitis.
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People with a spine would have long rebranded this to /inti/ or just /gvg/, with any incidental Megaman discussion excused by the shared history and inspiration, but we're dealing with cowards.
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>>571299372
His "character development" came from being removed from everything by being sealed for decades then being on a figurative leash by a girl with a cheat code that makes not killing adept opponents trivial. There was no real on screen introspection involved, GV3 is just shit in this regard.
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>>571300054
They floated Desna+Elise. That would have been the guiltiest trip fight outside of real Zonda, assuming GV was actually moved by deluded crying dying girl, had two hot chicks, one of which is a fan favorite, and it would have had great gameplay. Yes, my picture is fanart, but it's based off of the idea INTI had.
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>>571300390
>>His "character development" came from being removed from everything by being sealed for decades then being on a figurative leash by a girl with a cheat code that makes not killing adept opponents trivial.
The secret is that it was always non-trivial for GV. Like his inspiration, killing is a choice to him he makes, because he thinks his enemies are beyond redemption. In spinoff games, he does not kill, and they even talk about how he can use his powers nonlethally. He doesn't need to kill absolutely everyone, and that usually just makes his enemies more radical and willing to fight to the bitter end than give up. In CnC, they go over this too, where he's one of the few protags who is legitimately trying to kill Neon and is quick to escalate to lethal force on flimsy accusations. I wouldn't bring any of this up if GV3 didn't canonize all of it, and INTI didn't state that all of CnC's lore about their games were canon either.
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>>571300590
Desna was probably ditched to avoid her being linked to the dragon fetus due to her stars bullshit. Elise in turn was likely removed from consideration because while you can do simultaneous boss kills as Kirin it's nowhere as simple as when using GV and requires using an ult or selective weakening too annoying to pull off for a mostly single target character when fighting bosses.
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>>571297805
Concern-trolling is the lamest shit ever. People would have more respect if you just said "I don't like this thing" instead of being a little bitch.
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>>571291680
This kill the minos bloodline
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>>571300590
This is fanmade.
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>>571301115
Yeah the biggest problem in the face of this all is that Kirin's at the helm during the entire runtime, GV never outright explicitly goes "I'll kill you" only for Kirin to push back on it or anything really pointing out at this being anything but off screen bullshit like everything "character development" related has always been in this franchise.
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>>571301196
Or they could have just had one Elise, and the dynamic as that Desna would protect Elise and Elise would res Desna, or Elise would swap between personalities/attack patterns. Something like that.
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>>571282008
She's the boss monster and has her title as part of the name. And I bet that you are the anon that doesn't know what happens when somebody tries to correct Verre.
>>571291026
Forget about the black skin theory, she's not wearing anything regardless.
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>>571301513
Yeah remove the only memorable part of her boss fight, that's just great. What's next, remove fire pillars and touhou patterns from Viper?
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>>571291905
Because she would guide the world to a better future and because she's the prime example of "I can fix her with a mating press and a kiss on the forehead".
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Kelsinger's
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>>571301878
She's a retard that thinks giving all adepts godlike power would naturally fix things instead of causing an even worse shitshow that would make GV blush. It transparently shows her real age because only a small child would think something so retarded would work.
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>>571301440
They kill Asimov.

And it's not like GV is that torn up about killing the adepts. He's sadder about fucking things up and failing Joule. Like with Eden, he's initially regretful of ruining their dream of a safe home for adepts, not for killing Tenjian and Zonda, and he ends the fight reaffirming that they're shit with is line about destroying Zonda's paradise of false love. With Viper and Jota, or Merak and Teseo, it's more obvious he doesn't regret killing them, as he says stuff along the lines of sure, I've got blood on my hands, but you're still worse. Kirin also says it's a relief that GV didn't kill anyone decent when they run into Eden. The only person he regrets killing is Nova.
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>>571302184
>And this is where you spank my butt, onii-chan
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>>571302361
How does this counter anything I've said? All I'm saying is that this perceived notion that he underwent any development with Kirin is an asspull at best.
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>>571302184
It's dumber than that. She thinks that all the empowered adepts will voluntarily come together to form a united superstate to resist the nonadepts. GV thinks this plan is a masterwork of evil genius, showing that he's not much smarter himself. Copen thinks its dumb, but he doesn't like the idea of empowered adepts, they have Mytyl, and he promised fake Tenjian that he'd slowly kill Zonda, so...
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>>571302184
>She's a retard that thinks giving all adepts godlike power would naturally fix things instead of causing an even worse shitshow
You think that, not the person that can see the future and wad right about everything else.
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>>571302184
She's an 11 year old chink who lives in a fantasy world and regularly has sex with her brother. Don't bully her too hard for being dumb.
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>>571302361
Zonda's death seems to be pretty sad. Her fight and death lines are downers, and then there's EP, yet GV says he feels pretty good about it, Kirin says you should feel good about it, and Tsuda says killing her was a piece of the happy ending. Still don't know how the game wants me to feel about it. It's not just me, because Japanese seem to have the same reaction >>571251598
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>>571303063
Ah yes the person that could see the future yet failed to see both sides in the conflict were being manipulated so the the manipulator could walk away with the prize they were fighting over with none of them being the wiser, nor was able to use said precognition to give her side the victory, just another retard in the idiot club known as Eden.
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GV2 is just how a regular Chinese conflict is settled.
>Zonda tries to take power
>50.000 orphans perish
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>>571303673
Eden were good guys with the backing of the Stars (aka Heaven) up until they learned of the Muse and kicked off their plans. Zonda herself at the start of EP was telling the G7 that indiscriminate revenge killings was bad and solved nothing.

The Stars warned Desna that Eden would lose their righteous path after they met Olga. She misinterpreted it as Olga being the issue, and then lost the vision in a Zonda gag (because only Zonda would be naive enough to build secret compartments throughout Belladen that drop washbasins on adepts on command, because Teseo told her that's a good way of calming them down).
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>>571303673
Because that's your headcanon. Another thing is she did see that'd they'd all die if they went through with this plan so that's 3 for 3 in Nike's predictions, so all the cope about Pantera not being the true hope for a better world for all is just that, with a mix of seething.
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>>571302361
Teseo literally never did anything wrong
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>>571304747
So she got them all killed willingly, fantastic, clearly proved me wrong with regards to her intelligence.
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>>571304830
He did try to crash the Seraph into Sumeragi Tower. Also, a lot of Zonda was because Teseo kept feeding her stupid bullshit for the lulz.
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>>571305202
>Teseo kept feeding her stupid bullshit for the lulz.
If Zonda 100% trusted me and was coming to me for life advice, I'd do the same.
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>>571305127
She listens to a 4chan shitposter's advice. She may be the last hope left in man, but she's no PhD laureate.
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>>571305363
An idiot with ultimate power is about the worst thing you could do to ensure a better future. She was never the hope for anything if there was no real chance of her succeeding or her plan working as intended which is so retarded people have to headcanon that it was somehow going to turn into doki doki field instead of doing what she intended for it to do.
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>>571305818
That's your cope, as the future was bright and better for all under her lolidom.
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>>571305735
>adept women don't like minos men
>by the way here's a mega wealthy tech CEO that made her billions selling powerless robot boyfriends to adept women
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>>571306093
Whatever you say deluded Zondafag, don't forget she's not real and Inti's never bringing her back.
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>>571306298
>adept women likes reploid men
>minos men still fucked
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>>571305363
She'd have a PhD in septima studies and the esoteric. She's pretty top tier there, where she improved upon Sumeragi's glaive and muse tech in a few months, is the only other character who throws around some of the same lingo Copen does like normalization of (life) wavelengths, came up with grimoires (the only person so far to crack their glaive tech), understands how to manipulate and even alter Septima (something nobody else but Copen has really figured out), and so on. Remember that one of her inspirations is Albert from MMZX, just like Copen is Weil.

Like a lot of things about her, she's a contradiction. She is highly intelligent in what she knows, and she speaks like an adult, but she's still just as naive as you'd expect in anything outside of her expertise. Secondly, she's very trusting to the G7 and Tenjian shelters her, and that's how she ends up believing some fantastical ideas.

>>571305818
She lacks the life experience to really be making any of the calls she's making.
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>That's your cope
>the future was [my cope]
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>>571306965
You know that if Zonda shows up again and Gunvolt doesn't kill her, she'll abandon her plans, right?
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>>571306796
>tl,dr: Ciel 2.0 being Ciel 2.0
Really makes you think, the only difference is that Ciel got to witness her work backfire miserably and then have to try making up for it, wonder how that would've gone with her.
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>>571307051
Right. She was so close to abandoning her plans the last time.
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>>571308551
I'm just saying that's what will happen. She's not doing it because she wants to, and reiterates several times that this is the only way they can survive. She's not happy about purging nonadepts, and seems unhappy about adepts and nonadepts being incapable of coexisting peacefully, unlike many Eden members who would never even entertain the idea. She's just resigned that this is the way things are and in that framework, this is the best solution. Thus, either she reevaluates her ideals and gives up, or she dies. She can either become Ciel, or double down and become Albert. That's her only fate.
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>>571309323
>I'm just saying that's what will happen.
Meant to delete that line as it was leading into another statement. 4chan won't let me delete and repost, so whatever.
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>>571307051
Adept rights are human rights, adept liberation is human emancipation from the worst people on earth like Dr K.
This is the uncomfortable truth. Or as uncomfortable as you feel about being a background character in Ranma while your wife is a Shampoo clone.
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>>571309748
She will be pro-adept, it just won't be pro-genocide. Basically, Eden would be more like the Resistance from MMZ than the Mavericks of MMX. In GV2, they sit in an uncomfortable middle ground between the two.
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>>571310041

I love MMX, but their stories are a mess. So many things are either unclear or not explained well. And more than GV, there’s so much potential that goes underutilized.

Prime example: What is a Maverick? Is it just a Reploid who chooses to use their free will to do evil things, harm humans or otherwise break the laws of robotics? If so, does that mean the Hunters can just slap the label of “Maverick” onto any Reploid with radical views they disagree with? Cause that’s interesting and worth exploring, and several games tease the idea that the Maverick Hunters might be corrupt in their pursuit of justice…and then nothing is ever done with that. MMZ, GV, and even Classic and Legends does shit with this, but not MMX, despite being the core conflict of its setting.

Oh, and of course, the games do the stupid Marvel movie thing where any Maverick that kind of has a point immediately undermines that point by doing over the top acts of evil and carnage for no good reason. Even in GV, certain villains remain sympathetic despite the actions of their factions or even their own bad acts. If put into the same screwed up situation, you might think the same, unlike the MMX mavericks.

But then you have games like X4 through X6, which tell us that, no, Reploids “go Maverick” because of a virus that infects their brain and makes them evil. Which just spits all over the themes of free will that the X series is all about. What’s the point of Reploids having free will if it can just get overwritten by Wily AIDS? Plus it’s just way less interesting. It completely removes all sense of choice and agency from any of the characters. I get that Mega Man is just a run and shoot platformer that isn’t trying to be deep, but then, well, maybe the X games shouldn’t have teased the idea that they were going to be something more than they were.
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What would this general do if GX ends with Zonda saving the entire world with love
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>>571311209
Probably Zondapost between the complaints. The Joulefags would be absolutely livid for one. Then there are the 8-4ers.
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>>571311547
Joulefag here, laugh at the asspull, then wait for iX3 which I at least know will play better than the messy as fuck GX.
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>>571311547
Was wondering why Joulefags hate Zonda way more than Asimov, but I found this post from a Japanon:

いくらGVを苦しませたいからといって、シアンをここまで不幸にする必要はなかったと思う。物事には加減というものがある

実質3回死んでるからね(アシモフに肉体、パンテーラに魂を殺され、ミチルと融合してあの日の夢も見なくなった)


>Even if the goal was to make GV suffer, I don't think it was necessary to make Cyan this miserable. There’s a limit to how far you should take things.

>After all, she’s effectively died three times: Asimov killed her body, Pantera killed her soul, and merging with Michiru meant she stopped even dreaming about that day.

So the reason they consider her worse and cheer at her death is that she killed Joule's soul, even if Joule got revenge on her. Zonda breaking down and revealing herself to be scared and vulnerable might not have been intended to drum up sympathy by Tsuda, but was intended to elicit a feeling of power and vengeance fulfilled, just like the Joulefags felt after the fight was over.
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>>571312408
Anon what the fuck are you talking about.
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>>571311209
I'd be very happy.
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>>571312408
>Was wondering why Joulefags hate Zonda way more than Asimov, but I found this post from a Japanon:
Why would you wonder that?
It should be incredibly obvious, you don't need nips to tell you why.
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>>571312408
>Zonda breaking down and revealing herself to be scared and vulnerable
True. Liked hearing that bitch who acted so high and mighty blubber and cry for her brother like a terrified little baby, all while GV is like "Joule would never help a monster like you. This is what you get for treating her like a tool, bitch." One of the most satisfying moments in all of Gunvolt. She got corrected HARD. The didn't even give her the dignity of a badass villain monologue like everyone else, just terrified "big bro, save me."
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>>571310924
Maverick is a very loose term, like woke.
Originally its just any reploid that disobeyed their human masters, then it became associated with the RE tier robot zombie maverick virus. By Z it was again enemies of the states whom were mavericks and in ZX mavericks are the annoying remaining furrybots that wantonly kill people that were spawned by Weil's soul.
As for society at large, we hardly even see humans so they're irrelevant to anything, even if reploids are consumer goods this means nothing to us.
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>>571313365
Classic unironically does more with the
>Robots feeling bad for being consumer goods
stuff in all of its games and side material than MMX, and it's hilarious.
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>>571312774
Anon's ryouna fetish is getting out of control.
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Some of you Joulefags scare me.
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>killed Asimov 3 times
>killed Dr. K. 0 times
Just like in real life, Japanese Mengele got off scot free.
At least he doesn't have to sit and watch his son copulate with Sep*****s from the afterlife.
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>>571312774
What part confuses you? That Joulefags hate Zonda, that Joule got revenge, that Zonda did break down and cry, or that Joulefags liked it?
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>>571313512
It's bizarre, I guess it's because Capcom is willing to explore Classic more with side material while X doesn't get much. Saying this is rich compared to the even less that other subseries get compared to X.
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>>571312408
If they wanted to make it satisfying, they would have made Zonda curse GV, make one last attempt to murder GV, and/or rant/gloat how she's right with her dying breath, like Nova, Sigma, Asimov, Weil, Albert, etc.
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>>571310924
Something that you need to accept about this franchise: the writing always fails to deliver on the potential that the settings and characters offer.

That's how this works.

>Play a Mega Man game, and you enjoy it.

>Play more Mega Man games, and eventually you start to grow attached to the characters. You want to hear more about them, and the world they live in.

>Isn't any more to hear about them than what you've already seen in some cutscenes, and the more you think about the setting, the more frustratingly vague and undefined you realize it is.

>Hope Capcom does something more with Mega Man, something that finally gives you the story everything has been indicating was there.

>Capcom never does.

>Forced to accept that, and figure out how you're going to cope with your orbital habitat-sized disappointment.

>Fun into someone who hasn't fully awakened to the sad truth of the Mega Man franchise, and tell them so they can get to the healing part sooner rather than later.
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>>571313991
The utter retardation of thinking that the scene was somehow intended to evoke the feeling of revenge feeling good.
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>>571290161
My nigga Ace
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>>571313743
Hard to kill people that died off screen by their own experiment more than a decade before the games take place.
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>>571315021
Clearly some Joulefags disagree
>>571313309
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>>571315216
Yes, they are retarded and insane.
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>>571313309
Zonda is supposed to be corrected by cock, not lethal force
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>>571313743
How's it feel that Asimov is more likely to get a love redemption than Zonda?
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>>571315494
My cock uses lethal force so Zonda correction occurs. Her survival is irrelevant.
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You guys are just sadists aren't you?
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>>571314050
Yeah, but it's just a minor ancillary theme in Classic. In MMX, apart from the virus, it's what the entire conflict is based around and they ignore it.
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>>571315751
>Guy that gets written off as a lost cause by the most lenient character in the franchise has any chance
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>>571315910
You're just now noticing this? This general is deeply disturbed.
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>>571315991
I guess Japanese Timmy doesn't want the ethics of putting down a slave uprising that's also infected with the T virus to get in the way of his enjoyment of dashing, jumping, and shooting.
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>>571316527
>[Tsuda seething in the distance]
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>>571316314
To be fair, she wrote off Zonda and Tenjian as well.
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>>571313512
Because reploids generally aren't considered consumer goods.
>But-
I know.
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>>571316696
To be fair, most of the darkest stuff is in side material. Most of the wholesome, sentimental, and funny stuff is there too. GV is weird like that.
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>>571315751
Does Zonda deserve a love redemption?
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>>571315910
Some of us, yes. Most of it isn't even any kind of sexy sadism either. It's a pain.

>>571316817
Wrong.
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>>571317262
Obviously.
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>>571317262
She is the love redemption for the crimes of minos.
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>>571317058
No, 90% of the dark stuff in the side material is taking the chuuni anime blinders off and saying "yeah, this is actually horrible." It's why the side material doesn't ignore that Copen, Nova, and Zonda are kids when they're portrayed like emotionally competent adults in the game.
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>>571317262
If it copies Choujin Locke, then she's getting one.
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>>571315910
It's like two or three people, they just constantly talk to themselves and never shut the fuck up
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>>571318204
I'll take the image bump bot over this schizo shit any day of the week.
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>>571318432
and now you're going to be told
>then leave
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>>571318432
Fanfiction might be better than just cruelty for its own sake.
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>>571318636
Well, yeah. If there’s a thread you like and one you don’t then why hang out in the latter?
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>>571313365
>Originally its just any reploid that disobeyed their human masters
But that's wrong.
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Do you like pink Lola? This was the design they were sticking with for a long time. The green hair came late in development. She was supposed to be evocative of a scifi miko mixed with a phoenix. The reason for the pink hair should be obvious.
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>>571320735
This is just Pantera.
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>>571320735
Didn't Isola come from one of Lola's old designs too? Also, why did the Lola on the left steal Reverie's leotard?
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Imagine a world where Light wasn't compromised by the west and Roll was the basis for all reploids rather than Rock.
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>>571322385
In a way.
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>>571322646
This RoRo would singlehandedly repopulate the minos people.
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>>571321449
Probably why they gave her green hair.
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>>571322831
I guess Mother is closer to how Pantera in love would act like.
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>>571320735
So the idea behind Lola was that she was going to be the child of Asimov and Zonda? She combines the features of both of them. Even had the Zonda curls and outfit.
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>sings about Zed
Roro is peak NTRcore and BSSkino.
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>>571323613
Singing about herself, actually. The Phoenix and Vermillion Bird are very similar, but different creatures. They picked the Phoenix theme for Lola because of Resurrection. She was originally going to be a nurse and jab Copen with a giant needle, but they felt that looked too much like drug use (again, this was back when they were still marketing GV to a younger audience, instead of "young" media marketed towards older audiences).
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>>571317262
Yes, while face down on my lap as I smack her butt. Punishment is an act of love as well.
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>>571323378
The idea was that Zonda was greatly influencing her. This is carried through in her Clockwork Daydream interactions with Copen, and symbolized with the adopted siblings in that story, and then in iX2, which the Joulefags want to ignore. iX2 is shit, but it shows a trendline concerning Lola and the mirror shards.



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