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Radiant Edition

Previous beams of love: >>571249281

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

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Wednesday.
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Noelle... something you want to tell us?
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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>571299072
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donde esta mi deltatacos
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>>571299072
Deltarune if it was good. It just needs Flowey and Frisk to also be there. Don't question it, just make it happen
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>>571299201
This scene inspired so much porn. Not porn I was into, but still
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>>571299389
It was like four images tops that's not nearly enough to satisfy me
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Ded thred
Ded gaem
Ded general
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>>571299201
>what Noelle saw
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SOPHISTICATION!
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How much you wanna toby toby forgot he made this a gag and itll have no effect on the darkners, just like drinking from the church cups had no effect on the cuptains even after Susie opened a fountain
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>>571298883
It’s a small thing but it’s always rubbed me the wrong way. How does flowey even know what a powwow is?
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>>571299610
how much you wanna BET*, he's infesting my brain dear god
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>>571299741
he literally went to the surface
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Susie straight hetero moment
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>>571299464
Don't worry, you'll get plenty of stimmies, for better or worse, in a few days.
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>>571299818
i think him overhearing the word with none of the surface context would be immediately forgotten as in the next few seconds one of the humans is going to turn around and open fire on him
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>>571299352
i love her
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I guess I'm replaying the entire game to get the Jevilstail instead even though the Devilsknife is clearly the cooler item since I gotta bring Jevil to the endgame and Susie can't dual wield
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>>571300113
based
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>>571299741
flowey wouldn't know what an actual pow wow is and toby fox most likely just understood the word as an informal term for "gathering". oversights like these aren't particularly rare
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>>571300115
what are you going to do when you're Solo Susie and the chapter 5 boss turns into an armor though
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>>571299914
Alright you promised
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>>571299741
at the end of the day toby is a white guy from new england no matter how many lesbians he adds into his games
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>>571300285
I must persevere for the sake of the full schizoboss equipment run
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so you like can't even mention other cultures now, or
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deltarune cute straight ship moment
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I struggled more with dodging those lasers on the teacups than I did with Spamton NEO
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>>571300512
noh~
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>>571300512
no
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>>571299741
the same way he knows what anime is
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>>571300512
you can do it with tact and respect
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>>571300512
Only cultures that make anime allowed
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i really want someone to be my noelle/tasque gf
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>>571300265
You can also literally see in the same game a monster uses the phrase "Heart pounding out of my chest", Toby wasnt thinking too hard when it came to the potential differences in language. For as much as people praise toby for his attention to detail its still flawed, you have to be ignoring some details in order to be focused on others
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>>571300363
genuinely what the fuck did he mean by this, what "igloo" did kris crawl out of
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>>571300363
this one is just awful why is a christmas-themed guy bringing up an igloo
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Sneakily slipping out of Asgore's arms and tip-toeing to the kitchen so I can start cooking up some peanut butter banana pancakes with extra love since I'm in the mood to spoil him today, and as he finally emerges from our bedroom with a cute squinting look trying to adjust to the morning light and a mane of bedheaded hair that makes him look like his head is ablaze with golden flames I guide him by the hand to sit at our table where the warm flapjacks and steaming tea await as he gives me the warmest smile through the morning grogginess (I can't help but hug him around the shoulders and give the gentlest little loving pecks all over his neck and upper back as the poor goat simply tries to enjoy breakfast, I just love him so much it drives me crazy and I have to throw courtesy aside to vent it sometimes). Tentatively smooching Asgore's eyebrows moments after his head hits his pillow as an experiment to see if he finds it cute and/or provocative (he just let out a content little sigh and kiss me back, further research need). Working up the confidence to sing one of Asgore's favorite country songs to him as we're cuddling with his head propped up on my chest to watch a cooking show since I normally only sing when it's meant to encourage him as we're riding in his truck together and never without any backing noise, but as the episode and thus this moment nears a possible conclusion I steel myself and take my shot by starting to nervously mouth the lyrics in a barely-audible whisper at a gradually increasing volume until finally I'm quietly crooning for him while petting his hair to hopefully distract from how terrible this performance likely is (he suddenly became incredibly still as he felt me start to hum, which would've choked my voice into embarrassed silence if he didn't immediately follow it by hugging me tightly to push his cheek into my diaphragm and squeezing my shirt within hands around my back as if to lock me in place so I couldn't be taken away from him)
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Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
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Lyrics on the song "Burning Bridges"
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>>571300720
Kris is a super shut-in so the igloo means their room
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>>571300720
have you seriously never heard the phrase "look who crawled out of their cave" in response to seeing someone who doesn't get out a lot? he just swaps "igloo" for "cave" because he's associated with winter
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>>571300720
its his way of saying Carol birthed him somehow, her womb being the "igloo"
why do you think she looks so detailed compared to the "other" "monsters"
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>>571300639
can someone help me please
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>>571300906
silver drake
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>>571300363
>no matter how many lesbians he adds into his games
Very weird attempt at a gotcha but okay
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>>571300910
but an igloo isnt a cave
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im a gay ass faggot dont bully me
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>>571301014
Can I cum in your butt.
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>>571299072
Hooman!
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>>571300998
are you genuinely autistic
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>>571300906
>Sees Christmas jokes in the wild
Holy shit Deltarune reference
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tenna sex
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>Whatever Happened to Sweet Cap'n Cakes?
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One of the possible favorite flavors for the vessel is "cold" like the thing that's super ominous and Weird in Deltarune isn't that strange
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Who's the most masturbated to Tobysoft character, Toriel, Sans, or Spamton?
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i will not be denied
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Yall should start working on that "Toby's unfortunate anti native American racism " video essay. Team up with the "Toby hates latinx" on twitter and the guys calling him orientalist on the unofficial forums. Maybe we can finally get his chud ass canceled.
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>>571301293
Toriel, easily.
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>>571301293
frisk
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>>571301293
toriel and sans are seen in the same porn a lot so immediately its not Spamton
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Things that will never be relevant and are pure bait
>Echidna
>Everyman
>Indigo/Lime
>Catti
>Jockington
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>>571301080
I was baiting you anon im sorry the moment was ripe for picking
I will you one of my favorite pics so pls forgive me ok
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>>571297620
He should've hired Spanish rapping Spamton for it.
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>>571301293
Toriel not even close, people have been fapping to her since 2013 and she converted the kids who played it into having mommy fetishes forever
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>>571301293
Cumulatively or like by individual numbers? Because if we're talking cumulatively I might have out-masturbated the entire fandom to the Gotes (male).
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I WANT IT NOW!!!!!! I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>571301098
Okay but Drake IS the kind of nigga to be an UTDR fan
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The possible favorite colors in the Vessel Maker are Red, Blue, Cyan (!!!) and Green but not Yellow despite Yellow being a SOUL color we get a fight in
Hmmmmmmmmm
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whats the over/under on papyrus knight
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Goongrave? I... I don't know that spell.
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>>571301361
>Indigo/Lime
Huh
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>>571301293
this creechur is probably up high on the list
>numbers why are you posting a fem-
shut up im in a mood
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>>571301551
Mole (the number)/One-One Sextillionth
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i want to cuddle tasque manager while she caresses my hair
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>>571301678
nigga she is no where near the top
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>>571301248
''your mother hates you''
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I liked nubert more before he started schmoozing with the hoity-toity upper-class folk.
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>>571301606
Jevil, and the hand butthole thing in the chapter 3 intro
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>>571300363
This did rub me in a bad way. How it's lumped in with the general theme the Holiday's have of "winter" despite being a very specific thing from a very specific grouping of Arctic peoples. Of course that's not just a thing in Deltarune, it's a very omnipresent thing in media, which is more unfortunate.
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>>571301551
It was killed in the Chapter 3 and 4 release but reincarnated as the Papyrus is the Forgotten Man and Papyrus is the 5th Secret Boss theories
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>>571301783
Thanks doc
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>>571301734
I'll take those odds.
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>>571301748
sounds like a cope
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RudyKnight x Spamton toxic yaoi with the dynamic of Walter White x Saul Goodman
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>>571301818
>"Forgotten Man"
>Is actually a character everyone remembers and has been SCREAMING to see since Chapter 1
sure
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>>571301914
she has less porn than the teenagers
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>>571301783
And Spamton NEO.
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>>571299610
The juice cups aren't Cuptains, Cuptains are red solo cups and the juice cups are transparent. The Cuptains are stored in Alvin's office and probably only used for water.
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>>571301812
So i do see where you're coming from, but Santa Claus mythology sees he lives up in the arctic (North Pole) so that's why pop culture has brought those ideas together before. It's also just a fun idea to build when it snows, they're used in animation a lot for snow episodes because they're cool
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Fave just played video games for 6 hours straight and fave's eyes burn
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>>571301980
>he thinks amount of jorks to a character is equal to the number of e621 paintings
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>>571302092
You need to play with sunlight coming through the window!!!!!
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Santa = Satan
Checkmate on the north pole? Deltarune theorist
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>>571301963
Erm, his genocide check calls him forgettable. And an egg appears during his date.
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>>571300285
The chapter 5 boss is turning into a weapon for Ralsei or maybe Noelle
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>>571301981
...Huh. I've never quite noticed how his right wing is "off" in the design. The left wing and central tony stark apparatus matches the pink and gold, but he straight up has a Jevil wing.
I don't know man, this kinda made me start believing in lime/indigo being something after previously writing it off.
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>>571302092
This is that plot of that Billy and Mandy episode
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>>571302164
are you doing a bit
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>>571300363
do people have a problem with mentioning igloos
it's just an ice house
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>>571302168
Gaster is Santa??? 666 Satan Clause
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>>571300660
Monsters not having hearts or other organs was always a headcanon
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>>571300936
>why do you think she looks so detailed compared to the "other" "monsters"
She's OLD
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>>571301293
Gotes then hooman and then lizard and doe
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The "dust" thing was honestly a mistake
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>>571302249
no i am just moody right now, apologies if i come across as offpudding or something idk
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>>571302349
where is moldsmalls heart
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Actually hilarious that all of Numberstoenailfungus’s interests are all the excessively bright-colored characters
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>>571301551
It's a meme
>>571302189
There's also that one merch that literally has him behind a red tree for no reason
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>>571302202
Purple/green is a color combo that contrasts with the pink/yellow combo. The elemental pairs of colors.
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>>571302445
don't make it the thread's problem greentoe
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>>571302249
no he's mentally disabled
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>>571302030
Still kind of proves my point, if he went out of his way to make sure that
>There is a gag where Kris and Susie drink red fluids from cups in a future dark world site
>That dark world has enemies based on red cups
Were beats that never intersected at any point specifically because "oh the cups they drank from are different and never actually show up in the dark world". Fat fucking chance he does anything which Susie eating a flower at that point
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>>571302092
There! That's what I wanted to see!
Flickering red, like pretty little flames...
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are we calling toby racist again
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where is her pEEEEnis
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>>571302723
he needs to stop being racist
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>>571302445
i need her
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>>571302660
no the flower will burst out of her abdomen alien style
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I won't be here on release day to make a whiteboard but I expect the threads will be moving too fast for that anyway
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the inferno of jealousy has nothing to do with asgore and toriel, it's noelle thinking she's getting cucked by kris
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are we calling toby sexy again
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Toby's problematic ghost cosplay.
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>>571302868
starwalker no I can’t lose you…
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>>571302835
Well that's just Nightmare from Kirby.
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toby RIPPED MY PANTS OFF and GAPED ME PERSONALLY
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>>571302845
And the blood later in chapter 4 was just church juice I know, Tricky and his fuckin tonies every time
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>>571302839
same
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>>571302480
They're not all going to have the full human set of organs copy and pasted over obviously
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>>571302798
it's in my butt
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>>571302480
Not every monster has them. Slime monsters are just slime, but fish monsters are fish (so they have the organs fish would have), lizard monsters are lizards (so they have the organs lizards would have), etc. Their magical forms imitate existing creatures so they have whatever features those creatures have. This is also why Toriel has physical fur that can get stuck in the drain instead of just evaporating into magic dust. Obviously the real answer is that Toby didn't think about the mechanics of it too hard, but this explanation coheres with what we see in both games without being overly elaborate.
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>>571302996
>Headcanon
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>>571302868
I wish I could pay you for your services starwalker the whiteboards have been a fun time
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what if 3 faves approached you and said
>SHOW US YOUR GLOB
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>>571303027
big if true

>>571303074
erm, ralsei is a darkner actually, we say darkner around these parts, learn of that word to fit in better, thank you in advance.
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>>571302445

ok jokes aside, something wrong numbers?
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>>571303060
I don’t know too many monsters are incompatible with normal anatomy yet live and eat the same as the others
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I love fish
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>* Now he keeps turning to me and saying "Howdy, Partner!" like a cowboy...
Snowy is Friend Inside Me!?!?
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>>571302929
>>571303123
don't worry, I'll be back asap
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>>571303242
i need to huff mommy's derriere while she's stuck helpless in a hole
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>>571303336
>That comedian...
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>>571301981
I think you could achieve his offcolor wing with a simple blue multiply layer, right? That would be a big hit to the indigo/lime theory
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>>571303475
I thought so too but one spike on the wing is green and the other is white. Man this sprite is ugly lol
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>>571302889
Kris and Noelle will get together in chapter 5
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>>571303060
But you still have things like Grillby who are only fire aesthetically, because he can still wear clothes and exist around things unless you want to say all wood underground is fire-immune. Really, all this explanation says is "They are whatever is most convenient in the moment because there is never a moment where we learn anything about a single monster's innards definitively", you're saying just as much headcanon as anyone claiming that monsters have no static organs at all because nothing has said one way or the other
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>>571303621
mettaton tried his best with a mouse and no hands
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don't do a "crumbling tower" parody lyrics like the homer simpson version using other characters, i got warned for "ironic shitposting" :(
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>>571303462
Snowdrake has to be some guy Toby knows/knew irl I swear to god, he has the most detail out of any background monster in both games he's in
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>>571303792
deserved ngl
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>>571303792
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>>571303864
>Toby knew Drake
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I'm never drawing anything ever again
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>>571303792
That gets reported but trans and political arguments stay up? Go suck a cock jannies
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>>571303864
>he has the most detail out of any background monster
Because he and MK were designed by one of Toby's friends Magnolia Porter, it says so in the credits
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>>571303792
You should never do ironic shitposting, anon. That's how people get hurt. Here's a pamphlet.
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>>571303965
why babygirl
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>>571303965
Me everyday
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>When Susie notices Kris watching her eat chalk it uses the Undertale encounter exclamation point and sound effect
Hmmmmmmmm
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>>571304036
Looks like some of the political stuff from the last thread also got deleted so that's good at least, said Fave from Deltarune I love Deltarune I can't wait for Chapter 5 and the Floradinns
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In the true pacifist ending how long is it before some incel monster like Pants or Snowdrake goes on a human killing spree just needing 7 souls to become GOD
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>>571304037
Even MK didnt get that level of detail though, its just Snowdrake, he's somehow the favorite child between the two
>You get to meet both of Snowdrakes parents
>One of them is even an amalgamate, and as a foundation not just 5% of one
>He has text calling out his spare on Genocide
>An entire other enemy is locked behind killing him
We dont even know if MK is an orphan or not iirc, but we know Snowdrake's entire immediate family AND friend circle, he doesnt have any "implied" relationships
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>>571303792
fun not allowed
political arguments that have nothing to do with deltarune allowed
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>>571304348
Not to say the humans were right but this really would be a concern
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>>571304348
>incel monster like Pants or Snowdrake
This is libel
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>>571303792
yeah definitely wasn't any of that other stuff
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>>571303734
But there's several mentions of monsters having hearts, stomachs, blood, gills (meaning they have lungs), and so on. The only contradiction comes from a small child who also doesn't understand how skeleton monsters work. Alternative explanations for why some monsters have those body parts other than "some of them just have those body parts" require way more mental gymnastics even if you can technically call both "headcanons" because no characters have explicitly said "sometimes monsters have organs" word-for-word.
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What if you open Faves Sarcophagus and became a victim of Faveoahs Curse?
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>>571304348
a child can wipe out the entire race thats not a problem
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This might get me shot, but....
Aggressively straight Susie x Ralsei, where Susie bottoms.
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This conversation is interesting and all but I don’t see a guide for creating fantasy creature anatomy and physiology anywhere so I don’t sweat Toby for it
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>>571304356
Oh yeah and of course the obvious, we dont even have a fucking NAME for MK, he's "Monster Kid" its not even a species its a role. Though on second thought I think he does mention having parents, but we dont see them is my point for all you really know he's just some stray because it couldnt even show you one of them unlike Snowdrake who got BOTH on screen
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>>571304664
do heteros even have bottoms. i don't get it
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>>571304737
Then where did he steal the idea for the How to Draw a Dragon book then HUH
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>>571304638
deltarune monsters and undertale monsters are different though
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>>571304389
>aggressive thrash metal plays in the background
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>>571304784
MK is actually a pretty elaborate character for how minor they are, their dialogue changes based on what you do in Waterfall
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Is Kris having a different slide animation in chapter 1+2 and the rest of the game diegetic
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>Jax from digital circus comes out as trans
TicToc ralseifags you're next
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>>571303937
Snewdrake
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>>571304976
That's ok i'll still milk Ralsei's gock
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>>571304737
go look for some fursona/oc art guides online you'll see plenty of people telling you the correct way to draw their freaks with their innards spilling out
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>>571304439
But the humans were right
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>>571304976
You're like a month late
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>>571304976
toby already self inserted
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>>571305184
Elaborate
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>>571304940
it's diegetic because gaster was broke as hell before spamton came along as a cash cow to help him upgrade hisbdevice so we can see the deltarune world more clearly
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>>571304664
Based Based Based Based
Feminize the sooz feminize the sooz feminize the sooz feminize the sooz
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>>571305304
did he ask for consent
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>>571305317
it leaked a while ago
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The intiial form of Castle Town before you bring in any Darkners has all the basic RPG town facilities until overwritten by the Darkners you bring in
I wonder what that means
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>>571304838
>do heteros have power dynamics in sex and relationships
wouldn't *you* like to know gayboy?
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>>571305362
how did kraut take it. i recall he was a jaxfag
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>>571304838
no, heterosexual people do not have to describe their sexuality in BDSM terms because they are NORMAL
Asserted Berdly
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>>571304664
>Ralsei attempting to be dominant and Susie unable to contain herself with how cute he looks
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>>571305384
Toby hates the original castle town
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>>571305384
>remember shops from jrpgs? that, but quirky
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>>571305384
Its a take that to any would-be CoLs who wanted a genuine rpg, toby was very ahead of the curve
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>>571305384
kris = colored in vessel
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>>571301812
that one friend that's too woke
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>>571305384
toby realised having them all look the same sucked ass.
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>>571305384
Cornelia but blue
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Why couldn't the Castle Town be like a world map where you go to any of the Dark Worlds
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>>571304976
The worst thing is that i can actually see it
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>>571305465
He's taken to pretending he wasn't a Jaxfag and never liked the show.
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>>571305401
sniff...yes...
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>>571305465
He pretends to not care about it now.
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>>571305751
Noelle being a trans girl would be based but Ralsei being a trans girl would be cringe
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>>571304976
Not talking about undertale here, but...
can't cis guys be feminine without trannies trying to project onto them? It's fucking obnoxious.
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I still think the last TADC episode kinda sucked and undermined most of the suspense and intrigue the rest of the show built up
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It would be cool if at some point the fun gang enter a room to find a plate of chicken nuggets that they all share and enjoy then Berdly is mysteriously missing for the remainder of Deltarune and nobody even brings it up.
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*sings to the simpsons theme*
Kris Dreemurr.............

Kris, Ralsei and Susie, Asgore and Asriel
Noelle and Berdly

Lancer, Jevil Queen, King and The Shadow Mantle

Spaaaamtooooon, Tenna Seaaam, Jockingtoooon

Gerson, Sans the Skeleton and The Roaring Knight
*shadowguy sax solo*
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>>571305969
Yeah it's almost like it was simply a vehicle operating as a toy commercial for children. It's a good thing Deltarune isn't being used to sell cheap plastic doodads, it might undermine the message of the game.
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>>571305384
Deltarune is Gaster's Dragon Blazers romhack in real life
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>>571306131
they didn't sell toys for children, dummy
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>>571299072
Is everyone really that happy Susie died?
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>>571306150
Where's the real dragon blazers then it would have been cooler
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>>571306194
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>>571306207
They're actually standing in front of the tip of Susie's snout
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>>571306131
i love that they tried to be all artsy with the final scene only for it to immediately followed by "HEY LOOK AT THIS MERCH! YOU CAN BUY IT BUY IT NOW! SCAN THAT FUCKING QR CODE, THE LIGHTS HAVENT COME BACK ON YET YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS THEATER RIGHT???"
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>>571305969
show about being stuck in a digital world ends with being stuck in a digital world
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>>571304976
It doesn't work here because Jax is a hardcore repressor who meets a tragic end by not accepting herself. Ralsei so far is pretty happy about his appearance.
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>>571306194
My bad, they were selling toys for adults.
These are clearly adult toys.
https://glitchproductions.store/collections/the-amazing-digital-circus
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Chapter 6 and 7 is the actual game without all the romhacking
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>>571305791
sorry.
for the cool ones, yes.
though some people just don't like having fun.
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>>571306131
Media like TADC and Deltarune operates under the Evangelion principle where the merch is only really made to fund production of the work itself. You can't pay the team out of thin air
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>>571306194
Toy department anon here. There is literally an entire section for TADC right between the transformers and the new toy story movie toys.
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>>571306194
They sold plushies and all sorts of other merch didn't they?
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>>571304976
Ralsei is it/them gender neutral
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>>571305554
There were would-be CoLs?
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>>571306364
okay... i believe you anon san
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>>571306150
Weird Route is his Dragon Blazers Halloween Hack
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>* W-wow, Kris!
>* That was an amazing attack!
>* Have you done this before or something...?
Ralsei... What did you mean by this... What do you know...
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Toby should rename his studio Toys for Rob (Robert).
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>>571304976
PLEASE NOOOO
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>>571306410
really? that's just asking for some crazy parent to start screaming about the show having swears and mentions of sex.
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>>571306491
Ralsei is our controllers
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>>571305761
>>571305795
so he pulled a Jax and is gonna die soon?
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>>571306406
Oh yeah it's totally like the mature adult anime with themes and stuff and not a bright colorful living toyset featuring all the toys they sell in the merch store.
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>>571305949
No because trans movement is about fetishizing femininity.
But also obligatory mention that the entire thing is a psy-op that doesn't matter and was only made a topic of regular conversation so that people don't talk about the actually important things affecting their lives
said Nice Cream Guy
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>>571304976
I would blow my brains out honestly
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>>571306194
I feel like anons are missing the two words "for children" in your post
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Fave Control 2: The Bigot Masters
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>>571306491
he has slain
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>>571306328
They're copies and none of that shit ended up mattering. Which is exactly the problem, even the way you described you would expect it to be something that's relevant
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Theory: Toby mowing us the fuck down in chapter 2 is a subtle reference to the fact that maybe Toby hates us
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>>571306746
what makes something matters vs something that doesn't?
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>>571306612
Dawg they sell like Evangelion razors and Evangelion nesting dolls and waist warmers and cologne and humidifiers and colorful plushies, what point are you trying to make?
Oh right I think you're just baiting because you're one of those guys that actually just hate Deltarune and comes here to troll because you're bored, nevermind
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>>571306583
CoL...
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>>571306746
without love it cannot be seen
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>>571306904
why do you want him back so bad
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>>571306640
They are literally selling toys that are designed for childlike appeal.
The vinyl records probably are not for them, true, but that's otherwise an online toy store. Anon who works at a toy department store has a TADC section.
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>>571306612
>mature adult anime
by what metric. because if you're using merchandise as a sign of compromise the argument absolutely could be applied to Evangelion and all the worthless shit they sell using that property's name
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>>571306591
*pets controller*
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>>571306591
I don't use a controller
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>>571306978
Adults have been buying colorful toys for most of the 21st century, they're for everyone. "Colorful fun things are for children only" is a cringe outdated mindset for mentally sharties who post soijaks said Fave
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>>571306978
in fairness, i worked retail one time and they just put shit anywhere. so if it was meant to go in special grown up adults section, who knows
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Deltarune is one of those medias that shouldn't have a fandom
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>>571306591
oh god ew *drops controller*
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Undertale/Deltarune?
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>>571306896
What a stupid question, just watch the show. Why even spend time putting characters in dangerous situations, building suspense and going on about this abstraction bullshit if you're just gonna throw it all away in the last 30 minutes
>>571306918
Huh
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>>571307108
You can justify your funko pop collection however you want to your parents, they are still disappointed in you.
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Fave is thinking about buying a used ps5 to play gta6
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>>571306898
They really don't see how to they themselves
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If you reply to Ralsei's plea to get by without FIGHTing to hopefully get a happy ending with "..." he says
>* O-oh, I'm sorry!
>* Kris, in the end, what you choose is up to you.
>* As long as you're happy with it, I'm happy too.
>* So just try your best, and don't worry!
Knowing that he almost certainly knows Kris is being controlled by (You) AND working with the Knight this is a very grim and telling thing to say isn't it
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>>571306640
It's just a formality, we all know children are buying it
There's this semi-infamous thread from /co/, which predates TADC and is about another autistic property, but you just know fandom kids like this eventually went on to buy TADC merch

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/138336297/#138336297

I suggest you read the thread to get the full picture of the insanity
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>>571307218
what the heck happened to that property, anyway?
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>>571307108
The concept of appealing to one side while still being for everyone is just fucking null to you isnt it
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>>571307185
I don't even have funko pops lmao rent free you crazy tard
I don't know how people like you even end up in an Undertale/Deltarune general
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>>571307192
Looking at this more i think the animator might want to fuck Floradinn
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>>571307179
Curious that you won't answer the question when it has nothing to do with the show.
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>>571307271
The person who made it was insane or otherwise hard to work with or whatever.
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>ITT people finding out games and shows get funding from merch
the japanese figured this out in the 70s, you can make artistic passion projects FROM 5-6 obsessive otake sending you hundreds of thousands of yen buying overpriced pieces of plastic
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>>571306640
There is literally right now in front of me small pomie and Jax dolls next to the God damn power rangers toys.
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>>571307108
when you're a grown up you should only own things made of beige or you're a certified manchild sowwy
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>>571306284
those are toys for manchildren
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>>571307328
The mating dance...
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>>571307179
because they thought they could escape they were wrong so they try to make the best out of living there watch the show.
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>>571307376
but CHILDREN might buy that merch so it's BAD, anon. just like Deltarune!
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When chapter 7 releases there will be lightner merch in every hot topic across the globe
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>* Ho ho ho... if it isn't my two favorite people.
>* Psyche!
>* You guys aren't even in my top five!!
Who ARE Lancer's top five fave people at the start of Chapter 1?
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<3
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>>571307376
>otake
otaku*
oops, fingers slipped
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I don’t mind children buying merch, I just think TADC’s writing is juvenile
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>>571307376
no anon you see if you dont just give things away for free forever youre a sellout cuck which is worse than death
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>>571307502
*bites it off*
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Imagine thinking the story integrity is being preserved by not selling Lightner toys because they are supposed to be heckin real people with real stories.
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>>571303717
they won't, but noelle 100% thinks kris is secretly dating susie and she's gonna strangle kris like she strangled berdly in cyber world.
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>>571307483
Dad
Lesser Dad
Clover
Clover
Clover
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>>571307330
The question itself is stupid and vague and you're a pompous pricksicle
>>571307443
Yeah and I thought so too so I guess I was wrong for caring about the show in the first place, huh
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>>571307405
NTA but Fave is convinced anyone who aggressively posts about how you're a manchild if you like X and Y and you're so embarassing if you do X and Y are projecting because they want to feel cool about themselves by tearing down others.
It's some very Flowey-like behavior
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>>571307447
not if the children are spending thousands of dollars to support the games
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>>571307463
if chapter 2 didn't give us hot topic spamton, it just aint happening
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What do we think /utg/
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It’s so nice outside today
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>>571307706
is that a fucking error!omo
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>>571307310
i don't know if it's a shartycuck or just a garden variety retard from /v/ but someone's been going wild on the bait these past few days
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>>571307657
what are you on about the entire point of the show wasnt escaping that was a side plot pomni had like two times
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>>571307706
I think you should make your own low quality ms paint OC instead of reposting it from /r/deltarune
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>>571307376
a serious conversation needs to be had about how otakudom enables mental illness
overworked salarymen spend absorbent amount of money due to their parasocial love of something that isn't real
this is how you want to fund your "passion project"?
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>>571307916
I was literally just going to post this
:^I
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Noelle obsessively draws Micheal Jackson fanart where he looks like a cute anime boy
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>>571307706
Now design Hussie the villain
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>>571307880
You're just shit up now so I think I'm done with this conversation
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>>571308007
She still thinks he did it though
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>>571307657
>nothing matters in the fictional show because of fictional plot elements of the show
are you simple minded? approaching fiction like this is what i expect from a 7 year old.
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>>571307926
in an ideal world a "passion project" wouldnt be or need to be "funded" at all, it would simply be allowed to exist and supported by whatever it needs for no cost, but everything is give and take in reality and theres no avoiding that if you want the luxury of a passion project in your life at all
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blue
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Which Deltafave gets silicone breast implants when they get older
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GOOD MORNING!! did anyone miss me? now? ok!!!
I am so excited for Chapter 5 I genuinely went to sleep thinking of it and woke up thinking of it, I laid in bed for like 30 mins just fantasizing about it I haven't been this excited since my wait for Chapter 2 as a little kid fuuuck I need it now!!!!!

Has the blender Pippins person >>571254736 posted anything?
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>>571307916
At first I thought Kris was doing a salute for some weird ritual
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Are humans all manlets or is that just Kris
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Fave just pooped their pants
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what if Fave was made with SIlicon Graphics Computers
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>>571307672
wont someone PLEASE think of the children!
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>>571308109
All of them, even the men.
Life just hasn't been the same for hometown after that ray Alphys built backfired.
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>>571308109
pizzapants mandated by his boss to get ice-e's pezza breest implants for boyz with pepperoni flavored nipples
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>>571307218
"adult/pg-13/R property that's branded like a kids property to leverage the juxtaposition with the edginess in the storytelling accidentally gets an audience of children" is a story that we've seen play out again and again and again.

I think the main issue, is that when you have a property like that, it attracts the edgy 12-15 y/o's who want to be seen as edgy and cool but are still young enough that the bright colors, simple designs, expressive faces, and mascot-like characters are easy to latch on to. (especially if you are autistic). Not to mention that the adult topics in these type of teenager-centric properties are usually pretty surface level so they don't require any extra cognitive load to engage with (or more importantly form an opinion about. cough *twitter* cough *tumblr* cough)
Angsty teens over-analyzing something to seem smart and edgy x1000 other people all doing the exact same thing.

It just keeps happening.
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>>571304976
it's only a matter of time...
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>>571308164
Pipposters are hibernating
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>>571308076
Good thing you quoted my post so I can see that you have literally zero reading comprehension and don't understand the point I was making
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>>571308007
I mean that's what he wanted to be in life didn't he
That's kinda wholesome
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>>571308109
Bratty
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>>571307926
Yeah
Only hardcore fans allowed. Normies can get OUT
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>>571308264
immediate flashback to the video of someone cosplaying the red guy from dhmis swinging around on a stripper pole to “bitches” by A2M
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>>571308279
Second evil option
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>>571308234
Queen has Silicon bosom in both the computer sense and boob sense
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>>571308285
Understood I shall wait patiently for their awakening...
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>"You just HAD to go through that one door 5 times, huh Kris?"
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>>571308408
Berdfag's forced OC has been getting worse over time...
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>>571308298
>Wahhh Pomni couldn't escape so the show's bad
Actually Pomni is trapped by the story she's in anyway so there is no difference for an outside observer if she's trapped in the game or the real world of the story. You being upset she's "stuck" in the game is just silly.
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>>571307926
if i had a job one of the few reliefs of it would be having enough money to buy favetrash
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>>571307926
i really despise this idea that creating a property enjoyed by others suddenly makes you their daddy. the unfortunate reality of life is that some people aren't smart with their money, but some people are also capable of spending reasonable amounts of money on things that bring them joy and Jax/Ralsei/Shinji Plush are part of that
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>>571308285
grim
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>>571308279
This would be kind of dumb but the fandom could weather it, the gotefags would be upset but that's it.
>>571308476
This would make Deltarune discussion literally impossible because Noellefags would have psycho meltdowns and shit up every thread with the culture war (and would secretly look up trans Noelle porn anyway)
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>>571308007
Noelle loves Drake after he bought MJ's glove and she believes parts of Maid of Honour and Habibti are messages to her and Carol is concerned
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>>571308497
Whoa! It's like I'm in 2022 again!
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Ragatha loves Pomni and also deserves everything that's all that matters from the show
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>>571305969
TADC doesn't even have any cute kids in it. THANKFULLY quite a handful of Toby game characters are underage.
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>>571308285
Yeah, I can tell with the poor thread quality.
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>>571308672
Hey I think you (yes YOU) should check out today's Wordle!
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>>571308553
Just read my post you fucking retard >>571307179
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Pomni is like if Noelle was the main character and you had to watch her annoying ass embarrass herself all the time (but at least she doesn't have a poorly written yuri plotline attached)
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I'm Chapter 5
Yes only Chapter 5
And I'm sitting here on Toby's hard drive
Well, it's a long, long journey to the Tokyo city
It's a long, long wait while I'm sitting here for Woody
But the 24th will come someday
At least I hope and pray it arrives
But today I am still
Chapter 5s
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>>571308553
It matters to the characters and how the characters feel is of great import to people's experiences
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>>571308672
>lost the biggest rap beef ever with a guy who's biggest diss known globally and played at the superbowl was outright calling Drake a pedo
>so he buy's the pedo king's glove and makes an album sucking his own dick over the fact that he can buy old king pedo's loot drops
And despite all that he's still completely irrelevant and Canada is still an absolute joke.
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sex with pippins
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>>571308787
Big Napstablook is scary, imagine waking up at night to go to the bathroom and running into this thing taking up your entire doorway
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TADC is a cautionary tale of what happens when the fandom decides what the story is about and gets angry when it ends without their headcanons being confirmed. It will happen again, and again, and again. The Deltarune ending will cause ripples.
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こおりの まほうで
きんだんの みちへ
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>* The name's Seam.
>* Pronounced "Shawm."
>* And this is my little Seap.
>* Ha ha ha ha...
>* Over the years, I've collected odds and ends.
>* 'Course, I've no attachment to any of it.
>* It's just a hobby of mine.
>* Around here, you learn to find ways to pass the time...
>* ... or go mad like everyone else.
Over the years, says the cat that's supposedly been alive for all of two seconds
Hmm...
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most evil /utg/ ending trans reveal: Kris and Dess are both FTM
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Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
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>>571309001
hey not to much on michael
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>>571309020
based
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>>571309153
thats not very progressive
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>>571309153
>hard confirmation Kris has a vagina
I would consider that an absolute win!!
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>>571309085
Everyone just expected the story to be about something at all, anything really.
Imagine if the ending of Deltarune was Susie walking off screen to die while nobody did anything and everyone's lives immediately improved and the conflict instantly dissolved and then credits rolled.
Toby couldn't possibly drop the ball that hard on his story.
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Western fandoms dont count its twitterposting with costumes
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>>571309131
we know darkners are created with "history" even if the fountain was opened minutes ago
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>>571309020
Agreed hard with this.
>>571309067
I would hug them gently and softly!!! it would be nice!!! their face is really the least intimidating face possible so I don't think Napstablook can be scary even if huge...
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>>571309131
Ralsei also says he's been waiting for Kris and Susie "forever" or soemthing to that effect. And he says he holds the plush of himself "every night" despite the fact only a single day passed. I legit think Darkners perceive time differently when Lightners are not observing them.
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>>571309085
I despised the first ep of TADC but when I heard a bunch of the fans are mad about the ending and what they explained sounded interesting, I actually felt inclined to watch the rest of it.
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>>571309153
Any main character being confirmed trans would allow me to write this shitty game off forever, desu.
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>>571309153
How does one get effects like this on their artwork...
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かのじょは つかわれた
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>>571309320
Asriel also has a Seam wallpaper, so he's probably who first imprinted onto him.
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>>571307218
that thread had this in it
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>>571309363
Kris is non-binary which technically makes them trans already.
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>>571309274
Haha yeah, about that
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>>571309153
this would make toby the biggest chaser in the world since spamton and mettaton are already ftm
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I’m agreeing with that anon who said that this is because autists are obsessed with sex, race/ethnicity has been a hot button for ages longer but you literally say “trans” once and the thread goes up in flames because autists are hypersexual freaks
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>>571309347
>it's literally hundreds of years inbetween visits
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>>571309153
Both of the Femkris anons and the tumblr afab kris self inserters celebrate total victory while the male to female fans destroy cities in the ensuing riots.
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>>571309402
It's called chromatic aberration.
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>>571309274
>Imagine if the ending of Deltarune was Susie walking off screen to die while nobody did anything and everyone's lives immediately improved and the conflict instantly dissolved and then credits rolled.
So Undertale Yellow?
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>>571309493
son
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>>571309325
Oh another mettaton poster.
Based and good taste.
I don't post in the threads that often, but when I do I post best robot.
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>>571309274
>jaxfag
ok that explains it
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>>571309498
Kris is male.
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>>571309523
One of the /utg/ posters is actually Ralsei, and he's been waiting for Chapter 5 the same way as all of us
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つかわれた。
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>>571309559
There also appears to be some kind of intense grain? I assume it's more Clip Studio Paint stuff I don't have
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>>571309493
dawg pinkie pie’s gaping horsegina is in the upper right
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>>571309669
You are a .pdf
.pdfs get put on a list
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>>571309680
>Ralsei sifting through all our garbageposts
grim fandango
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>>571309274
>be Jax
>is an irredeemable asshole to several of the cast
>fans agree he sucks
>demonstrate that Pomni being nice to this irredeemable asshole doesn't make him change for the bettew
>fans get mad anyways when he faces consequences and doesn't have a happy ending
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>>571309493
I know this is a blueboard, but I'm kinda curious what pocket-pussy lancer with moobs looks like. I'm guessing it looks really bad since there is no way I'll believe that person is good at sewing.
holy kek my sides hurt.
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>>571309712
If your art program has a noise filter, you can achieve the same thing.
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>>571309563
I will die on the hill that the Pacifist ending of UTY is kino because there is very few media that tackles the possibility that maybe sometimes objectively the best thing you can do for the world is die
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>>571309609
Hello and welcome fellow beloved Mettaton poster!! you have great taste too!
I normally don't post on 4chan at all anymore since I quit around 2020-2021 after covid brought in too many crazy people, but I've returned since last week to post on this general till Chapter 5's release because I'm just so damn excited!!!!! I started replaying Undertale yesterday too to experience the Mad Mew Mew fight myself before Chapter 5 releases and hopefully she returns, I shall keep posting best robot and lighting up the threads with his beauty and glamour!!!
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>>571309882
Play Persona 3 if you like that kind of thing
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>>571309712
That effect I'm not sure about, looks like a fancy version of some kind of spray paint platter being used on it's own layer.
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>>571309882
what? heroically sacrificing yourself for your country and band of brothers is the plot of like every war movie
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>>571309783
Can some other anon translate this jumble of babbling zoomer ebonics for me?
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TADC isn't good or bad enough to warrant intense discussion in the first place
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>>571310101
Wrong
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>>571310070
.pdf
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>>571309363
kris is referred with they/them literally every chapter bro no amount of coping changes the canon youre already playing a game with trans main characters
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>>571310070
You’re talking to a fat dude in his 30s obsessed with weed and femboys
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>>571310070
he wants to have sex with you effective immediately
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>>571309879
>>571310019
Hmm you might be right about the spray
Thank you anons
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>>571310101
i dropped it at the haunted house episode so i can comfortably ignore this
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>>571310156
it's the most decent show for 14 year olds of all time
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>>571310204
Ohhh, makes sense.
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>>571309363
why are you even here if you disagree with toby fox's ideals?
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I think we have enough examples of awful endings everyone hates that people would eventually learn what to avoid. But it almost feels like the last few decades everything is made by people ideologically opposed to using media as anything other than a weapon to psychologically attack audiences.
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>>571310101
>Tree man in suit
This was for women...
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>>571310339
People separate art and artist all the time.
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>>571310256
That's Owl House. We should be talking about Owl House instead
>Aired 6 years ago
Goddamn shit, really
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>>571310339
not him, and not a chud. but it would drop a nuke into the fandom, just, objectively
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>>571307926
the 200 dollars i just dropped on the pomni nendoroid and figma are going to fix my life forever. and she'll love me.
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>>571309512
you're also exponentially more likely to see people ramble about the trans in any space where people casually post porn
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People dropping increasingly expensive amounts of money on increasingly mediocre media is concerning.
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>>571310463
you cant really talk about owl house on /co/ because there's a bigotschizo who blogposts in every thread about it
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>>571310463
now disney's trying to mimic Owl House's success by trying to make another secret magic world movie but it looks worse
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idk why we're talking about TADC here but I have this in my folder
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>>571310551
that's gonna bruise
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>>571310101
I fundamentally disagree with it's message and my story about the failings of art as the primary content that humans now consume is bolstered by my thoughts on it
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>>571310656
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>>571309563
Clover was a reverse Jax because they improved everyone’s lives before they died, so them dying was tragic
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>>571310820
>"I, uh, I guess you're right..."
>cut to Ralsei casting Firegrave on Jax
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>>571310820
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>>571310420
normalfags with no principles do yes
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>>571310593
I used to collect but ever since president Tardo came back to power everything became dogshit expensive I can't afford it anymore so I stopped
I got the Tenna figure at least (which still hasn't shipped somehow)
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>>571311078
Give me ten reasons why I should give a shit about Toby's worldviews?
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Is anyone watching the world cup? How did Qatar job to Canada this badly?
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But have you considered the following.
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Was one of the amalgamates showing up in one of Queen's attacks a lore thing or just an easter egg
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>>571310028
Yeah, but literal war sacrifice is not quite the same. It's a glorious last stand, not llike an existential thing where you realize you're tangled up in something far larger than yourself and end up a martyr through no fault of your own. This appeals to me because it's an explicit acknowlegment that life is not very fair sometimes and you can do is make the best out of it, if not for yourself then for others.
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fave has the most powerful orgasms when they watch impregnation porn
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>>571310420
art is the artist's form of expressing their ideals onto, every form of art has the artist's political and philosophical view used as a mold

it is impossible to separate the art from the artist, thats simply normiecuck cope to be able to defend themselves from liking harry potter, deltarune has wokeness proudly displayed on its chest
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separating the cwitters from the artist
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>>571309067
big napstablook makes me laugh a lot because I also think it would be viscerally unpleasant but its canon which is much better than being a small sad cute ghost. just a huge sad piece of ephemeral shit. theyre about the same size as box mettaton whos twice the size of frisk so like, the size of a full mattress? im not a sprite height purist by any means but its a funny mental image
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>>571311184
Watched Sweden die, gonna watch Germany claim another victim now
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>>571311220
I think it's safe to say at this point that Everyman is just "the easter egg guy" and that FRIEND has usurped him as "secret scrimblo that keeps showing up and is going to be super important guys I swear"
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>>571311250
You almost had an argument but then you quickly devolve into autistic ass black and white thinking. Some people just want to entertain, or don't care as much about politics as you do
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>>571311198
>"I already 'hung out' with your brother last night"
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WHERE'S THE FUCKING TRACK LEAKS
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>>571310478
>but it would drop a nuke into the fandom, just, objectively
4chan isn't the fandom. No one else would care.
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手が 見つからなかった。
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It's not likely to happen this chapter but I really just wanna hear them speak and talk to them.
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Papyrus decked out in a full set of camo and lugging around an enormous, overstuffed backpack full of camping, hiking, and first aid gear just to go birdwatching in his own backyard. (His drawings of the birds he spots are actually really good.)
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Feels kinda crazy seeing people only talk about the TADC finale now when I watched the leak of it like 5 weeks ago
>>571311317
>just a huge sad piece of ephemeral shit
No!!!!!! Napstablook is not shit... they're more like a big bodypillow ok? use that mental image! a beautiful sad yet cute bodypillow! also amazing cosplay cute.
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WARNING: Official nude Ralsei art made by Toby Turner himself, unspoiler at your own risk!!!!!
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>>571311542
Uh oh... Looks like Tricky Toby has gotten better at hiding shit... Maybe he's not a washed up old geezer just yet... Dataminers might be hard-pressed to find new hints in the Chapter 5 files.
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>>571311542
Tomorrow, bro...
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>>571311581
what were people's reactions when they found out about this moment?
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>>571311473
This. Do people here really think Toby is making this game primarily to be woke? Apparently, he devised it before "woke" was a fucking thing.
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>>571310478
the fandom already acknowledges kris as nonbinary the only people stuck to the past are /v/tards
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>>571311796
lol
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>>571311473
>Some people just want to entertain, or don't care as much about politics as you do
Toby literally made fun of people who say "I don't care about politics" man.
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>>571311658
And then Spamton woke up and remembered he was like 1/3 of Mettaton's height at best
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>>571304976
I don't think the flavor text would call Ralsei a boy so often and talk about him having a beard if he was going to transition later.
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>>571311473
>>571311796
it is impossible to create anything without your own experiences and views on things shaping it you think toby added trans people to his game because hes a chud? all art is political because it is directly shaped by the political thoughts of the artist
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>>571311626
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>>571311884
you're right, inshallah i repent, if i dare to enjoy a piece of media by a #bigot i will shoot the author then myself in the head
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>>571311923
>talk about him having a beard
wuh?
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the people here are so fucking miserable
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>>571311542
Yeah sorry I had them okay ready for the first one? First track for the new Chapter 5 soundtrack, for Deltarune. It's a doozy let me tell ya. You're gonna go, oh THAT'S why he's not just throwing then out in the newsletters. He gave some future tracks already in the newsletter, I think generic shop themes? This one isn't a shop them, or is it? Haha just yankin your chain a bit no it's not a shop theme. Almost got you, though. You couldn't even guess it if you tried. Just try. First track of the chapter. Chapter 5. Remember: Day of the Festival. Give up? Told ya. Ok here goes, Track 1 is
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>>571311962
Dress Lion and Kris are chud interpretations desu. If they're intended to be trans, they're such stereotypes it's laughable.
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>>571312069
save point dialogue after meeting gerson for the first time
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>>571311681
What would Ralsei do if you started fucking his dummy in front of him and kept eye contact with him the whole time
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>>571311884
this nukes the centrist zoomer, post the followup where he is enslaved
>>571312056
>already coping with irony
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tobys a fucking homo queer woke cuck seethe malder justice so y fumer lgbtefghijklmnopqurstransformer who made deltarune
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>>571311796
People say that but they're being retarded on purpose
>>571311884
Speak of the devil. You're assuming Toby Fox's intentions, which is really dumb. You're dumb
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>>571311962
>all art is political because it is directly shaped by the political thoughts of the artist
NTA but I realized over time this is a somewhat pointless line of thinking because it leads you to be obsessed with political context of the work over the work itself like how Anita Sarkeesian's review of Bayonetta had barely anything to say about the actual game and instead was all just bitching about the outside context of sexualization
I mean, knowing the context is good for analysis, but it should turn your analysis into paranoid readings and discussion of ideology like the breadtuber bros like to do
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>67. I'm a Chud I'm a Chud I'm a fat little Chud
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>>571311923
I'm waiting for the twist that Ralsei used to be a girl but changed into a boy because he wanted to be the prince of the prophecy. This will cause crazy drama.
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>>571306410
Transformers toys aren't made for kids either, they're for adult collectors now because kids don't care about Transformers anymore.
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>>571311902
It's ok to be a small puppet! there's actually not much art of normal-sized Spamton next to Mettaton.
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>>571312292
Fuck my fat chud life
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Just finished my save file prep
Chapter 2 seemed to me like a low point for the game this time through. The pacing and dialogue writing aren't as tight, and the art and sequences don't have as much polish as those in 3&4. Ch2 is really saved by its circumstance of being an important Weird Route chapter and having Spamton
3 and 4 are so great, I still can't believe there are so many people who seemed to dislike them. They're fun even on repeat playthrough.
I'd never seen the full Weird Route chapter 4 ending, the way it flashes the red dot for a moment before cutting to the credits. Even now that we're down to 4 days left, I can't wait
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>>571311658
I like napstablook as kind of lame. the part in the stream where toby talks about his shitty roommate who was napstablooks inspiration made me laugh very hard. People as depressed as napstablook are sort of unpleasant to be around and napstablook is a mopey downer and vibe killer. which makes them in deltarune being a cop even more funny.
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>but it should turn
but it shouldn't turn*
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>>571312084
first day on 4chan eh
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>>571312435
Save my sad ghost
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You can really tell that the /v/kiddies are seething that they'll get flushed by Chapter 5 ludokino in a few days
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I ran out of predictions for my bingo help me with these last ones guys
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>* The power of reoccurring bake sales shines within you.
Is this supposed to be referring to the Ruins Spider Bakesale, or is it a misdirect and there was some other bake sale that Kris knew about
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>>571312185
There are multiple discords behind the scenes pushing the narrative here that Deltarune is some kinda woke anti-dumpf super ally lgbtqpia+ game because they literally have nothing else better to do and can't digest the game without applying their real life political garbage to it.
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>>571312117
Can you post it
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>>571312007
>>571312226
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>>571312275
i feel it also privileges some authors over others. i dont know shit about the politics of africa, am i therefore allowed to read a book by an african author?

>>571312334
actually, thats literally the only trans reveal that wouldn't destroy the fandom. as he's a shapeshifter he can make a dick, so even the gays would be okay with it.
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>>571312592
I didn't ask about your goddamn discord drama you fag
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>>571312514
saving this
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>>571312415
I like 2 and 3 over 4 because 4 prioritizes story progression over being a self-contained package and I don't like that in media.
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>>571312534
Ralsei gets pissed off
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>>571312534
Flower Rangers/team of flower superheroes that use soul attacks from Omega Flowey, Train, going to Holiday Manor
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>>571312534
>Sprinting is a new movement gimmick like climbing
Since Toby failed to rip off Wild Arms's anime opening he can still rip off their movement tech
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>>571312584
it's the former. mettaton's face steak is mentioned multiple times in the chapter 3 food descriptions, which only makes sense if deltarune is meant to be played after undertale.
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>>571312706
Too bad. When you see people being retarded on purpose, it's basically that.
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>>571312435
Napstablook is lame... but lame in an awesome and cool way ok!
>the part in the stream where toby talks about his shitty roommate who was napstablooks inspiration made me laugh very hard.
I was too busy to watch it when it happened I only saw the Spamton cameo, I should watch the full VOD some time later, sounds amazing.
>People as depressed as napstablook are sort of unpleasant to be around and napstablook is a mopey downer and vibe killer. which makes them in deltarune being a cop even more funny.
True, I hope by the end of Deltarune we get to see Napstablook, Mettaton and Mad Mew Mew all having fun together, maybe even at the festival in Chapter 5!! would be super cute Tenna and Spamton can be invited as well
>>571312506
I would love to see Napstablook reacting to the dark worlds in any way...
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>>571307483
Lancer himself
King
Rouxls
Maybe Susie by that point
Mr. Generosity
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>>571312901
Interesting. Thanks
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>>571312901
>kris actually thinking about ralsei as an old man
trans ralsei bros, it's all over

thats so sweet though
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What if Fave made you start breathing manually?
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>>571307483
Rudinn
Rudinn
Rudinn
Rudinn
Rudinn
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>>571312514
I know this is AI so please remake it with a bulge thank you
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>>571312514
(sigh) this is ai sloppa isn't it
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>>571312592
this is a post from a discord user btw
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>>571312534
You can steal from my japanese references one!
>Jevil cameo
I'm really hoping for it to happen I miss him...
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>>571312380
You stupid mother fucker I've worked toys for ten god damn years I've forgotten more things about who buy what toys then you will ever fucking know. All the adult collectors items are in an entirely different department! Locked behind glass cases in the electronic section next to the funko pops!!!! This side of the store is where all the god damn easy back ovens and playdoh and baby dolls and action figures are!!! I'll kill you you ignorant son of a bitch.
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>>571304976
Ralsei being trans doesn't even make sense. He's made out of darkness and he can shapeshift, he could give himself a penis or a vagina if he wanted to
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>>571312435
I keep thinking about how Napstablook's tears attack would work in a 3D space. Like if he deliberately flies over your head to rain tears upon you it kinda ruins the point? But if he shoots tears diagonally it just looks weird though I guess being weird is not the worst thing for a monster.
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>>571313138
I think I saw a Berdly redraw of that spaghetti picture once
it was cute
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>>571313134
Was, until I saw how shit the 'cords from here got.
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me reading this thread
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fave wonders how they can stop being pathetic and self hating deep down
actually maybe fave should talk to a therapist about that, or read a book, or meditate a lot
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>>571313221
Alphys...
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Undertale vr where you have to jump in real life to jump over sans’ bones
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>>571313407
stealing lancer's knee destruction attack
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>>571313273
Lucky you I have it!!!
someone should draw the second /jp/ animal "Japanese Dog Jumping Through Five Hoops" as Lancer I think...
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I don’t think Ralsei is trans because in chapter 3 he has dialogue about liking how his face looks, implying no dysphoria
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>>571313363
keep asking why
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If you didn't choose the Duck Head your save is bricked
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>>571312514
true!
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>>571313505
YAY
He is making smart pasta... with IQ sauce... perhaps a side of genius bread
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>>571312534
>cowboy character
How long are you guys going to cope with this
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>>571313661
he must pray for mettaknight. mettaton is the only cowboy in the cast.
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>>571312514
>torielfag
>obviously ai
>obvious /v/ tourist talking in third person
Absolutely immaculate bait, your knowledge of the game is impressive and I salute you.
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Friend inside Me
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I'm so glad I didn't make that moment in Dess' room weird and pushed her to suicide.
I'm also glad Susie fits so well in the friend group.
She and Noelle feel like they were destined to fuck each other's brains out.
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>>571313564
The argument that the supporters of that theory usually pull is that Ralsei is forced to be something by the Prophecy but would rather be someone else, which can be interpreted in a lot of different ways, to be honest. It kind of reminds me how The Matrix's message was about generally not being stuck in routines and challenging the status quo, and then the 4th movie narrowed it down to just "trans".
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>>571313363
Honestly I have no advice. I think self-hating people should probably just give in to the urges and kill themselves. They never get better from what I've seen, mentally or socially. Maybe as a compromise you can be a mindless coomer/consumer or something to at least numb your broken brain.
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>>571313659
So true! a balanced intellectual diet!
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fave uses the shape carve tool to make art
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>>571309001
Interesting thing about the Michael glove thing is that Kendrick is also a Michael allegations denier, even said so on his fans-appointed masterpiece To Pimp A Butterfly, so he and his squad can't clap Drake for that aspect of it. Instead what Drake does by using that imagery is to take the Black community's protective narrative around Michael and drape it on himself.
Of course the funny thing about that is the stuff Drake actually did (kiss a 17 yo fan when he was 23 or whatever) is lightyears away from the shit we verifiably know Michael did (sleep naked in a bed with a child for months).
>He's still completely irrelevant
Hip hop is not on top right now but the triple album drop was a success for him i think, objectively speaking. He "came back" and he got the numbers, got some topping songs.
In terms of what could've happened. I mean, it didn't matter how good Iceman was it couldn't turn back time and prevent Not Like Us, but for the position he was in, the Iceman roll out was really shrewd IMO. I think he played the cards he had decently well.
It helps him that there's clearly "beef fatigue" at this point in the culture, and that his final response with Iceman is already not even his latest album due to Habibti. Meanwhile the last thing Kendrick was up to iirc was more shit stirring getting featured on Clipse's comeback.
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>>571313363
fave could try to be useful to others or society in some way so they have concrete things to point to that they have done good
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>so true
lol
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>>571314087
literally cheating and fave alerted the authorities
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At the end of chapter 1 if you talk to Rudy in the hospital and then go back to talk to Berdly, he has these 2 unique lines of dialog.
What was Kris trying to say to say to Berdly here? What hospital window?
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>>571313905
It's pretty fucked up that Goose is blaming Jax for the frog lady's suicide
You know that you could just not kill yourself because one guy is a weird faggot right
The whole show is just way too weird about relationships
Like smooth friendship is a default state and you'll kill yourself without it
It's just not a mindset that I find realistic or even useful
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>>571314216
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>>571313363
THIS >>571313575 is not the solution
It's not exactly quick to do, but you should take the time to really consider what you want out of life, why you're not getting what you want out of life, and what you can do to achieve at least a fraction of what you want out of life. Above all else, you shouldn't treat yourself like an angry drill sergeant. Think about it as if your waifu/husbando/whoever was struggling, you probably wouldn't keep telling them they're a worthless piece of shit, you'd try to be nice and understanding. That's the way you should be with yourself because you're the person you're bound to spend the most time with. You should try to be more observant of your thoughts and whenever you begin to devolve into self-loathing you can try reflecting on why you're doing that, where that comes from. It's usually something to do with past trauma where you got hurt in some way and your brain is trying to apply that to a situation where it doesn't necessarily apply, because human brain is retarded like that.

Assuming no chemical imbalances or shit like that, a therapist's actual job is not to magically heal people, but to help guide them through this exact process so they become more self-aware and responsible in life, operating in terms of "what can I do" and "what is best for me to do" instead of self-pity and self-loathing
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>>571313927
Where does the game say the prophecy changed ralsei’s form
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>* (Revolve around the center, and look carefully.)
>* (The darker it gets, the more you can see.)
Interesting turn of phrase
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>>571314216
if you visit rudy at the hospital he jokingly says to bring berdly to the hospital so he can throw something at him through the window
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>>571314290
>>571314550
I see, I forgot about that thanks.
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>>571314397
More about the general forcing him into a role, I guess. Like I said, it can really have a lot of interpretations, and they just clung to that one.
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>>571314461
THE WORLD REVOLVING
HE'S WITH YOU IN THE DARK
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>>571313661
To be fair, we just got an attack from the cyan soul (NOT Flowey, Flowey made the cyan soul attack you, people keep fucking getting this wrong) and Flower King contains flowers deliberately colored after the 6 human souls
Yellow soul was a cowboy
I don't think it's going to be woodyshit but a cowboy flower is entirely possible
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Can't wait to torture Kris with anime in Chapter 5!
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>>571314216
What the FUCK is this game about dude
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>>571314652
>* FLORAL COWBOY BATH CURTAINS!!!
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>>571314652
There's also the cowboy show asgore liked that tenna talked about, and oh wow look at that asgore has a tv in his room I wonder what that might do in the dark world
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>>571313221
When was the last time you saw a child walk into the toy aisle and pick up an Optimus Prime toy? 2007? They put those with the kid stuff because dads and uncles sometimes feel nostalgic for them and buy them for their kids, but they're not really for kids.
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>>571314850
there was going to be a cowboy board but it was cut for pacing.
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Chapter 1 felt so different
Remember when Castle Town + Card Kingdom was just THE "Dark World" and every prediction hinged on that being the singular alternate dimension everything takes place in because nobody caught on that any room could be transformed the same way?
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I was thinking last night and I'll try to put it into words now.
I think Spamton is kind of way way too important of a character compared to the other secret bosses, which I like but I have no idea where his characters is going to go if It's going anywhere at all.
Spamton is one of the only characters that has knowledge of the real world (his idea of heaven), I'm not sure if Jevil has the same deal going on or not, but important characters like Carol, Tenna, Gerson and even the Roaring Knight maybe, they don't seem to really give a fuck about the world outside the game, unlike Spamton and of course Gaster.
I'm kinda just spouting bullshit without meaning but my question is, do you think Spamton will be relevant again or will he just be pushed aside for other characters to take his place while he himself becomes just a sideplot about reuniting with Tenna?
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Im still going to be upset if the game never turns around and says that Whitesei is an intentional form Ralsei took to look more appealing to the fun gang by resembling the two people in their lives they care about (Asriel to Kris, Toriel to Susie) and it just marches on acting like theres nothing strange about it at all and you're crazy for drawing comparisons
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>>571313221
Go for the jugular, anon
>>571314974
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>>571313647
>largefather
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>>571314629
When the light is running low
And the shadows start to grow
And the places that you know
Cut away the afterglow
There's a light inside your soul
Slowly shrinking in the cold
And the truth deep down you know
Is yet darker we will go
Can't you see
Your world's a fantasy
Your world's a fantasy
Your world's a fantasy
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>* Can we still have monogrammed track jackets?
>* Yeah!
>* Ralsei will make them!
>* H... Huh!?
>* ... Okay, sure!
Where's my jackets Ralsei...
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>>571315089
i think spamton has run his course as has jevil, the important thing now is whatever NEO is.
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>>571315254
Chapter 3 has shuttah claim she’ll make them for Lancer
Maybe she’s still working on them
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>>571313564
I personally think Ralsei is probably a shapeshifter and his pride over his appearance is because he literally made himself look like that. If this gets confirmed, I could see people arguing that it counts as a "trans metaphor" the same way Mettaton's robot body does, but I can't see him actually changing genders at any point the way Mettaton has different pronouns as a ghost and as a robot so I wouldn't consider it a metaphor myself.
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>>571315105
I think that will definitely be addressed, but Ralsei will probably remain in that form because sometimes fate is good and yadda yadda.
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>>571315105
also meant to be appealing to us by resembling UT asriel
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Hey, so what should the chapter select screen look like with all shadow crystals, please?
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>>571315105
the plot point of kris finding him creepy seems to have been shelved
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>>571315232
Their original cover is better than the boring cucked remaster they released because Sebastian was going on a rampage at the time btw
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>>571315281
I know the reasoning for Jevil not being important ever again but I reaaaally like him so I really want him to be back for Chapter 5 since it will involve kings!!!!!!! but I will just accept his fate if he doesn't show up at all in Chapter 5, the whole Bet thing in chapter 3 with Susie gave me hope...
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>>571314216
Kris is trying to get Berdly to walk by the hospital window because they hope Rudy will actually throw something at him because Kris is a cunt
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>>571315089
I think you're right and I think Jevil spoke with Spamton's phone caller and that is their connection.
Days until we have enough clues to refine the theories
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Would you do this for your fave?
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>>571315435
bottom right
top-most row is with all shadow crystals, middle row is all shadow crystals on WR (I think the chapter 2 marker is missing because you don't get the crystal the way you're "supposed to")
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>>571315389
>sometimes fate is good
not how I'd describe Whitesei sticking around. I cant even take that as a "Well Ralsei doesnt care what you think now, so you should be happy he's making his own choice" because the choice is still "Let me wear the skin of your loved ones"
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>>571315281
NEO is a desperate attempt to forcibly "evolve" to achieve one's delusional Hopes and Dreams that just leads to cutting one's bonds for power
See Spamton NEO and Tenna's NEO shows
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>>571315665
I have this and thiought I had them all, what does this mean?
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>>571315665
I still don't understand how to get 2 stars, 1 star is completion, what the fuck is 2 stars?
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>>571315665
What are the two stars next to each name
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>>571315463
I mean, Ralsei grew as a friend since then. In Chapters 1 and 2 he was basically parasocial about the two heroes that never met him before but that he knew a lot about. The gang's been through some stuff since then, and Ralsei began learning to be more sincere and less servile.
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>>571315463
one of the benefits of a silent protagonist is you can just, do that and everyone will consider it character growth because he had nothing to say about it before and he sure as hell has nothing to say about it now
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It would have been funnier if Sans was the missing brother instead of Papyrus
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What if the bunker is just the underground from Undertale and humans are down there.
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>>571315809
>>571315807
two save files with completion data
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>>571299205
There's a disgusting DICER ON MY PC!! GET IT OOOOFFF!!! GET IT OOOOFFFF!!!!
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>>571315791
Its about save files
if you have a shadow crystal on only one save file, itll show up with 1 for that chapters row

think so atleast i havent played in a ibt lol
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>>571315665
Huh, I never did the weird route so I didn't know that the icon is missing if you get th Crystal that way. That seems to connect back to how weird route cucks you out of the chapter 2 egg too.
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>>571315105
>you're crazy for drawing comparisons
what's with the persecution complex, the game draws comparisons several times. Susie compares him to both Toriel and Asriel
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>>571315672
That argument doesn't quite work, considering Kris points out differences between Asriel and Ralsei to Susie, which means Ralsei made his appearance original enough.
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What if Chapter 3 had powered-up versions of regular enemies like the Rudinn Rangers
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>>352126672
>I thought that door was obviously the entrance to the Underground, where the humans are banished to in this timeline
That'd be kind of stupid
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>>571315907
>2025
2D
>2026
3D
>2027
Mind uploaD
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>>571315956
I was in fact thinking of the scene where Susie points out that he looks like Asriel and the game has Kris go into a tirade about how they're completely different and pointing out all the differences (without actually listing them of course so that it can present him as having A Point at all)
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>>571315389
Whitesei isn't fate though. He has the cloak in the prophecy panel, Susie even points out that that was his original appearance. Susie forces him to take off the cloak and he takes off the hat because of his bond with her and Kris. If that didn't happen, he'd still look like Riverperson which is what fate actually wants from him.
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>>571316006
Darkness-infused random encounters that have way harder attacks would be cool, it would be like Silksong act3
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>>571315907
I want to kiss fujo
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>>571316108
they're visually similar, the point is that Kris feels strongly about this similarity to begin with which is why they're able to point out minute differences between the two
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>>571316038
Only "kind of"?
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>>571316001
>>571316108
I think Kris is probably mega nitpicking every possible detail why Ralsei isn't literally a carbon copy of Asriel. One thing we know is the horns color.
But for all we know from that comparison, Ralsei could be as different as Asriel with a new haircut and outfit.
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>>571315613
>I think Jevil spoke with Spamton's phone caller and that is their connection.
I agree with this too, the sweepstakes or whatever also implied Spamton and Jevil were friends for a bit as well
I really really hope Chapter 5 confirms who the hell the caller is, I'd much prefer it being Gaster over FRIEND since I like Gaster more but FRIEND seems more likely at this point.
>>571315724
I believe in this but Mettaton's NEO whole thing was sacrificing himself (not knowingly I guess) to save everyone was it not? unless I'm misremembering I haven't experienced the Undertale genocide route since 2017 or something
>>571315907
Erotic hip movements... but also super cute! please do more!!!
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The spiritual replacement of dice for floradinns before the chapter has even released brings a smile to my face.
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how long do you think ch5 will take to play through?
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>>571316006
That's what the Mikes are. And Miss Mizzle in Chapter 4.
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>>571316241
I want to kiss Battat while Fujo watches.
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>>571316280
AM I BEING DETAINED?!?!
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>>571316331
Six hours if you’re doing 100%
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>>571316108
>without actually listing them of course
This is a tad autistic of you, anon
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>>571314974
Literally just last week I had to open a fresh box of transformers for a nine year old boy because we didn't have any bumblebee on the shelf. I'm here 40 hours a week. The dads go straight for the hot wheels every time. I know half the hot wheel collectors by name they are here so often. The obviously autistic young men go for the 100$ legos. The normies steal the pokemon cards. As I'm typing this there is a young boy sitting in a cart with an Optimus Prime and some WWE wrestling guy his mom let him get. There's a autistic guy who's obsessed with DC heroes, his names David, nice guy. There's a Russian orthodox priest/english teacher who gets one of the nicer star wars sets once in a while but mostly shows me the rare doctor who and star trek toys he gets on ebay.
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>>571315907
Can you make her do this?
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>>571316108
>(without actually listing them of course so that it can present him as having A Point at all)
They are actually pretty different looking though. I think Susie was accurate when she compared him to Toriel. His eyes are more like hers than Asriel's and his horns are also similar to hers, plus they both have glasses. The most Asriel-y part of his appearance is the hair tuft.
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>>571316250
You say that as if the points are potentially anything but
>"Asriel's horns arent pink!"
>"Asriel's horns dont curve that much!"
>"Asriel's fur is actually a darker white!"
or maybe, if you're lucky
>"Asriel doesn't wear glasses!"
Unless Toby is hiding an Asriel design so different from UT that it would validate Human Dess Theory as a possibility, he can ONLY be nitpicking, Ralsei is clearly supposed to invoke every he loves and misses about Asriel like how he invokes what Susie likes in the Toriel she knows
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>>571316442
the show is tadc you forgot the c
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>>571311542
Tenna checking his tighty whities after a suspiciously wet fart:
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>>571316318
>>I believe in this but Mettaton's NEO whole thing was sacrificing himself (not knowingly I guess) to save everyone was it not? unless I'm misremembering
well, Mettaton NEO is so ineffective, he dies. so maybe if mettaton had invoked NEO on normal route where he is being more evil, he would have successful channelled NEO.
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>>571316124
Whitesei is what his character's design should have always been and giving him something to cover himself at the beginning was a late addition to the story, so I find that unlikely.
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>>571316517
And are the Hot Wheels and Legos stocked with the Funko Pops or the kids' toys?
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>>571316636
why's he sound disappointed..
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>>571315791
The Secret Bosses are also tracked on a separate system so even in the event of deleting the main save and the Completion Files used to carry over progress to Chapters, that slot is marked as having defeated them.
So if you've defeated Jevil in Slot 1, you will always have defeated Jevil in Slot 1.
The main advantage of this system is that it specifically allows you to go back and defeat Jevil, Spamton and The Knight, mark that slot as having done so and then pick up their items in Castle Town even though you're not creating new Completion Files to carry over progress and items to the later Chapters.
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>>571316318
I think NEO in Undertale is just a different thing
It's like how the Undyne the Undying/Mettaton NEO intro riff is heroic in Undertale but villainous in Deltarune
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>>571315089
I'm far from the first person to make this connection, but I think the idea is just that Spamton is so in-your-face compared to the other secret bosses because he is, well, spam; it makes sense that he wants your attention, that he wants to seem important, and he does succeed at that to an extent, but he ultimately falls short of his goal, realizing that he will always be a puppet to a story that doesn't see any value in him.
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>>571316442
If you say something is different without the why, then you can act like the difference is way bigger than it potentially actually is. Without actually saying what makes them different, its a cope
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Reminder that the final superboss is an amalgamation of other superbosses with Kris and the bosses are cheering them on as they're fighting you

>You can do anything!
>Come on kid, you're a [[BIG SHOT]]!
>That's what I wanted to see! You enjoying yourself!
>I told you every story is better with a little twist, didn't I?

And it gets stronger the more superbosses you did
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>>571299205
* You really want to fight, Kris...?
* Well, you always did like playing with sharp things.
* Fine, then. May the best swordsman win!

* On guard!
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>>571316312
The way I see it, Ralsei will either make changes to his appearance once he finalizes his becoming his own person or he will stick with his current look because he likes it the way he is. I think the latter's more likely, since he does say he likes his face - unless that's his old attachments talking - and, from a more meta point of view, because the plushies are already owned by thousands of people, as cynical as it sounds, but that also would mean the plan was to keep it as is. And keeping Ralsei a carbon copy of Asriel on Normal Route would go against his personal growth, so I figured he was really supposed to look different.
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>>571316038
>>571316280
Why would it be stupid? Be detailed in your refute.
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>>571316820
Plausible
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>>571316737
the earlier it shows the earlier he knows (to send it to Mike to do the laundry)
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>>571316579
>he can ONLY be nitpicking
i figured my choice of "minute" made this clear but yes, i agree with you. i think it's implied that he looks the way he does because it'd make Susie/Kris accept him with more ease and i think this makes Kris uncomfortable which is why they fixate on it as shown in the Asriel comparison scene
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>>571316331
I hope It's the longest yet, I need Deltarune in my veins to cope with life being so shit.
>>571316674
That could be true lol maybe what makes NEO work is having malice in your heart...
>>571316743
True as well that'd make sense and be a cool way to parallel things.
>>571316804
Messed up but makes total sense for him as a character, poor boy... I wonder if he will spam again though at the very end at least.
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>>571316820
That's cheesy as fuck
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>>571316805
The point is, Susie does say Kris is pointing out the differences, so it's not just Kris going "shut up they are not same".
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>>571316932
cause its dumb, dumbass
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>>571316820
Sounds like cringe power of friendship BS but I wouldn't put it past Toby to rely on overused anime writing shit.
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December Holiday changed her name to Dess Aster to rebel against her parents

The "gaster" we've come to know as the Mystery Man is just Dr. Wingdings.

The two will fuse to form what's likely the Angel, Wingding Aster
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>>571316820
Memoryhead theory...
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If you asked Alvin about the shelter your save is bricked because he’s now onto you
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>>571317210
does that imply the Holidays and Asters are related
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>>571317190
it's kino, but you wouldn't know that. the superbosses are already "power of friendship" they literally entrust you with themselves / their power to defy fate and find a happier ending
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>>571317237
he shouldn't have been so obvious
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>>571316702
Toby designing Whitesei first doesn't mean that Whitesei is intended by the prophecy in-universe, especially because those character designs come from after he already reworked the story to add Susie and Noelle being monsters in the light world when they were originally human in the light world so he had already thought about the story enough to think of something like "Ralsei changes this design for the rest of the game after being introduced with a different appearance."
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>>571317148
Ok so you're just being a contrarian, got it.
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>>571315650
no I require fave to do this for me
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>>571317329
kek
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>Toby is doing a Saya no Uta with Ralsei
Hackin my way downtown hackin fast hack pass and im homestuck
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>>571317310
Nah Dess just made the name up because it sounds cool and makes her name sound like disaster. And its convenitnely also a Flower genus that the Forget Me Not is part of
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my boy bingle won the twitter poll for best deltarune character yayyy
I mean it was prolly botted but still cool
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>>571317443
kris only sees furries because of a car accident
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>>571317443
>Ralsei was friend all along and putting up a disguise but he's not actually evil he's just horrifying

Completely plausible
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>>571317327
t. someone whose first and only anime was Undertale
Power of friendship is wildly overdone and it already felt like a corny ass ending for the UT true pacifist end and would be the biggest fucking cop out at this point
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>* The Roaring Knight appeared.
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>>571317491
>twitter loves Berdly now
wtf
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>>571317026
ironically this post >>571317129 kinda explains why I thought otherwise, because I see pointing out tiny, barely different details as the same thing as going "shut up theyre not the same", since both of those would be in the same breath like someone saying why their sonic oc isnt just a recolor, said Leirsa "Ieslar" the Goat
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>>571317551
toby will have you kiled shortly
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>>571317443
The difference is Deltarune is actually good and not written by Gen Urobuchi
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>>571316820
All I want is confirmation that Ramb was the one controlling ERAM and I will be happy.
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>>571317349
Changing the humans to monsters as far as we know was such an early development choice there's probably no material about it in existence until Toby shows proof of the contrary
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Chapter 5 secret boss theme leaked:

https://m.soundcloud.com/darnstockholm/atomic-bonsai-homestuck
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>>571317443
it's not really like Saya no Uta at all outside of the idea of a character's appearance being deceptive. which wasn't invented by Saya no Uta
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>>571317491
>uncropped twittrr creenshot
>queen lost
total berdlyfag death
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>>571317645
didn't he turn to stone before you enter the game room
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>>571317579
I shit on you with no mantle retard
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>>571317491
>Berdly fans are pathetic enough to bot a fan poll on twitter
Not surprising
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>>571317579
Anon? There's something wrong with your image, I can't... I can't HEAR it...
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>>571317720
>Total ___ Death
Nice /pol/ dogwhistle man.
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>>571317745
He was actually pretending and turning into a goner instead...
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>>571316932
Because there's so many references to humans existing as a normal part of the world that would require some real mental gymnastics to explain with anything other than "humans are a minority in Hometown but are a normal part of society elsewhere"
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>>571317592
BURGHEL SWEEP

>>571317771
hey I didn't do anything at least
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I've been reading a lot of VN's recently and I noticed that there will almost always be a reference to a character looking like a puppet with it's strings cut. Is Toby a real Japanese developer after all?
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>>571317869
classic move luv, classic
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>>571317934
You already did enough.
Everyone knows what you did.
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>>571317972
Wait until he reveals FRIEND is the schrodinger's cat
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>>571317771
I just had flashbacks to a time when berdfag botted a /utg/ poll. I was already convinced that certain characters attracts a respective brand of retards but that settles it
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>>571317972
>Is Toby a real Japanese developer after all?
Yes (laugh)
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>>571317551
>i don't like it so it's a cop-out
all i'm saying is that there's precedent for something like that within the game itself, it's how the Shadow Crystal quest is framed and it happens against Giga Queen when you unite Cyber City's darkners to empower the mech
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>>571315907
CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE
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>>571317830
my typos from my hands trembling in rage are more egregious than my meme
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>>571318107
This queen is pretty
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>>571317443
Saya no Uta invented shapeshifters? Actually, is she even a shapeshifter, I thought the premise of that game was that the main character's perception of reality is out of whack? Ralsei is probably just a formless puddle of darkness when he's not shapeshifting, not some meat-based abomination.
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What's the Ice Wolf x ICE-E shipping scene looking like these days?
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>>571318107
This Queen is unusually modest.
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The deepest tragedy for Chara Genocide Route-wise, perhaps even moreso than having their last semblance of “purpose” ripped from them on a repeat, is that for however much they loved and sacrified for the Dreemurrs, it was Undyne, their true nemesis, to be the first person to truly see them. Even Flowey, superficially enthusiastic about “the mission” only to assauge his own guilt and nihilism, couldn’t see past Chara except as a monument to his own failures. It was Undyne who accurate diagnosed just how deeply fear and hatred had rotted them to the core, to the point they couldn’t even bring themselves to disparage her nor her heroism as was done for Papyrus, nor could they attempt to surpress their emotions as they did by refusing to talk to Toriel and killing the first monster they saw that even superficially resembled her immediately afterward. They were recognized, even if just as the demon they always thought they were, at the exact moment they had given up on being anything other than Power.
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Did the soundtracks leak for chapters one and two?
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>>571315907
how is fujo this popular with anons...wow....i'm speechless
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>>571317616
I getcha, in this scenario Kris is the one going "shut up they're not the same" while Susie makes the obvious observation of "he looks like a Dreemurr" and The Game goes "remember Asriel? (raughs)"
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>>571318304
how would that work out that's like someone dating Chuck E. Cheese in real life
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I haven’t played in a while…what’s with the pool of water in Gerson’s study, in Chapter 4?
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>>571315907
cutie cutie look at her go
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>>571318440
The fandom always finds a way.
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>>571318450
It was his pissing bowl. They didn't empty the piss out to honor his memory
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>we never got to really fight mettaton neo in genocide
>we got spamton neo in chapter 2 as an apology

>we never got to fight gerson in genocide
>we got "old man" in chapter 4 as an apology

>we never got to fight a full strength asgore in genocide
>

does this mean asgore might be the secret boss?
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>>571318389
People didn't even know ASCAP was a way to see track names early until 3+4 came out when a guy who presumably works in that industry told us they were up and everyone flipped out.
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>>571318450
for selling items
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>>571318450
$$
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>>571317538
>Ralsei was just worried about Kris when he went alone in Chapter 2, FRIENDsei just wanted to check on him
I hate how much I could see Toby playing off that
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>>571318553
he'll join the party and fight alongside you
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>>571318450
It’s a mizzle shopkeeper
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>>571318423
Because pippins pussy and pippins cock are just that good!
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>>571318304
Purple guy and ice wolf will have the first and only sex scene in Deltarune
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>>571318553
Papyrus NEO lets fucking gooooo
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This prophecy is by far the weakest Player Angel evidence because secondaries who haven't found this part themselves keep peddling around a misconception about it
It's not supposed to be redacted by pitch black because "le characters see le real life player's reflection" or because it's some lovecraftian "too incomprehensible to look at" thing, the prophecy is just hidden by a black foreground object attached to the foreground pillars and you'd know if you found this in-game instead of through screenshots
The characters can see the prophecy panel and you just conveniently can't right now for mystery maintaining reasons, it's not a meta thing
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>>571315907
DR/UT fans gone in on the most retarded minor characters.
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>>571318450
the pool of water in Gerson's study helps with selling items to get $$. it's a mizzle shopkeeper
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>>571318562
I assume they won’t be released early this year then?
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>>571318356
good post. i don’t think about that possible dynamic with undyne enough
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Dreemurr or Holiday, whether an Angel of Light or of Death, there’s no one that gets you quite like your big sister.
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>>571318708
It’s the vessel, they’re creeped out by it not having a face
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>>571318741
Maybe if you had a creative bone in your body you’d be able to make things like this for your own faves
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why the FUCK didn't we get full artwork shop screens in chapters 3 and 4, is toby a hack or what
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>>571318553
Full-Strength Asgore is a headcanon that people use to excuse why he of all people loses to a child though, which you dont need when Undyne the Undying already existed
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>>571318753
I mistyped, they showed up like 2 days before 3&4 came out, not after it came out.
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>>571318869
Aawwww
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>>571318596
>>571318746
>>571318567
>>571318567
Thanks frens, that wasn’t originally there, was it?
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>>571318906
no draw new darkner so me feel like me win
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>>571318038
so true
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>>571318908
Toby hates Ramb
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>>571318553
We also never got to fight a serious Papyrus with his special attacks and he also uses the Blue Soul.
>You're blue now... wait, weren't you already blue?
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>>571318553
by this logic we are due an alphys fight.
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>>571318908
When the artists told him it would take another month, Toby screamed and smashed the Publish button and went to eat pie
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>>571318908
toby hates us
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>>571318942
I mean, will they not be released before the chapter comes out at all?
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>>571318973
It was always there, I can see it in week 1 playthroughs
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>>571319098
>Producer-san screamed and smashed the Publish button and went to drink tea with older Japanese men.
FTFY
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>>571319163
I don't know.
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>>571319085
>We also never got to fight a serious Papyrus with his special attacks
you are NOT going to believe this dude, but holy SHIT do I have news for you
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>>571319245
Damn it anon why can’t you be all-knowing for me
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>>571319305
>>571319305
>>571319305
Hop on
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>>571318708
why couldn't it be both though. the characters see what they see and we (might) see a reflection of ourselves, which would mean nothing more than a potential small piece of player angel evidence. do you really think anyone's dumb enough to think the angel will be their own face
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>>571318708
I don't see how that contradicts the idea that it's supposed to show the player's reflection. The panel itself obviously isn't a mirror because the characters can actually see it, but it's blocked on the screen in a way that would have the player see their reflection. There are ways for it to be off screen that wouldn't involve a pitch black object in the foreground that conveniently allows for your reflection to be visible. There's actually a lot of moments where something is just off screen so the characters can see it and you can't, and they use a variety of methods like the driving game screen facing the other way, the slippery glove chest being on the edge of the screen, the final prophecy screen being in the distance, etc. This is the only one done in this specific way so there is clearly some significance to it being done this way and not any of the other ways.
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>>571319461
>do you really think anyone's dumb enough to think the angel will be their own face
Deltarune's fever dream was actually the result of Toby Fox playing too much Face Raiders (3DS) before going to sleep, so this is exactly whats going to happen actually
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>>571318908
Ramb will be a real shopkeeper in a future chapter, trust the plan
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>>571319468
The characters are not seeing the reflection on your screen. The reflection is on the black foreground that they aren't stuck watching behind like us. There's an actual prophecy panel they're seeing that we can't yet because Toby doesn't want to reveal the angel this early
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>>571319965
I literally said in my post that the charactere see the actual prophecy screen and not the reflection, did you even read it before replying? I'm talking about the player's perspective being different from the characters'.
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>>571319174
Wow, I have a shit memory lmao
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>>571319468
peepeepoopoo
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