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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER>THAN HE WHO DENIES>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?">YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?">"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?">ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
sex with kris
TEN FEET TWENTY THE FLOWER MAN
Hide your dilfs
Imagine fucking both of them. My dick would have choice paralysis.
Why didn't Kris and the Knight just set things up so Snowy enters the Prophecy Scenario instead of Noelle? Are they stupid?
Does Yellow Blue imply Asgore is suicidal without Toriel
>>572345515If you're doing a sans ritualpost now please include the sound title so it's more immersive. thanks
Why would Chara do this?No Seriously, Acceleration is shit, Chara don't do this to yourself you'll never get 6th or above in online matches.
Remember back when people were convinced 'Mike" was gonna be some kind of archangel Micha-ElGood times
>>572345657Yellow immediately jumps to suicide when he thinks he did something bad, Asgore has been punishing himself since THE TERRIBLE INCIDENT because he's wants to convince people and himself it's not his fault.
personal creations anchor! reply with your latest works!
>>572345703don't lie /utg/
I'm glad the younger generation is learning After Effects with TikTok at such a young age. meanwhile on 4chan we don't even have the technology to post .mp4https://files.catbox.moe/3ssm9g.mp4
>>572345735i still do
>>572345657It's more like how Asgore's sense of justice makes him self-destructive and guilt-riddenThink back to how Asgore kills himself on a post-Omega Flowey neutral end
>ch6 starts>Kris seems to wake up early for school>All examine texts are now simple and emotionless, similar to UT geno route>Talking to Toriel has her imply Kris says an unusually heartfelt goodbye before leaving, as if expecting not to see her again>Kris still has the seed packet, examining it reads " * Almost there. " How would you react?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQai9BKW3E Hometown in the weird route was beyond haunting. It felt reality left you behind.
>>572345794hmmm chud we actually can post audioless .mp4
>>572345152even if they're friends you don't just walk in a conversation, cut off whoever is talking, and change the topic however you like. It's just disrespectful. And it happens EVERY time. But the only time ralsei dared to treat her the same way (healing Kris in chapter 4, and it was justified) she played the victim.
>>572345735Michael still hasn't appeared in earnest.
>>572345836https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IavUg17J2GU
>>572345769
>>572345909next time I'm posting audioless edits with a timestamped youtube link and you'll have to sync the audio yourself
The only ship that won in chapter 5 btw.
>Roaring Knight>Jevil>Spamton NEO>a TITAN>Spade King>ERAM>Krisvs>Gerson>Giga Queen>Flowery>Mr (Ant) Tenna>Jackenstein>Pink Mew Mew>Susiewhich side wins?
>>572345921Yeah, ironically if you acted like her around the average friend group who's into this sort of game she'd get ostracized very quickly. People like the idea of mean girls until they witness the reality of it.
>>572345476I still can't believe this is an actual plotline in this game lol, genuinely more shocking than the potential "Kriselle Fusion time travel" plotline with the Knight or anything else that has happened so farhttps://youtu.be/QdyMik9Ffz4
>>572345904Kris marching to their suicide while Susie tries to cheer them up and actually doing it a little is a one-of-a-kind experience
>>572345769No idea who made this but it made me laugh hard.
Why was there still Kralsei baiting this chapter? I don't understand how this pairing serves Kris' character, it feels like it never did, I can see Ralsei doing it because his love for Kris would justify his faith despite his fear and hopelessness but in another hand I think it makes it sound like he didn't quite learn enough from Flowery. I just don't get where is this going
>>572345794there was a /jp/ altchan I fucked off to during the hackening and among other quality of life improvements mp4 embeds w/ audio was one of the features they had and I quite liked it
I earned this statue through gambling FAIR and SQUARE so why is it not in my Castle Town?
We all love Toby and appreciate his games
taking drawing requests (maybe) (good ones only)
>>572346045>knight, Kris, and a Titan on the same teamAutowin by default
>>572346212Flowery and the Knight making out sloppy style
>>572345904It's like that feeling when you're so scared of something you're going to do you start disassociating as your body tries to make it feel less real.
>>572346212this but they make out crazy sloppy style saliva dripping everywhere
>>572346212Seth and Ralsei burning an effigy of Flowery
>>572346173To fuel literal fanwank
Just finished Chapter 5. I never thought to do the weird route, but if it's going to skip to Chapter 7 I might do it now since there's likely going to be a drought in Deltarune content for the time being.I enjoyed the chapter so far. I don't really have a tier list of all the chapters except that I didn't like Chapter 3. It was still a decent experience, but Tenna was just not an interesting character and repetitive, and the gameplay as an old zelda clone wasn't really up my alley.Overall, I still play this game because it's pretty much the only game that genuinely makes me laugh out loud on a consistent basis, like Kris facedown at the picnic table as a third wheel and Yellow finding any excuse to harm himself.
Pour some more love to the generic encounters <3
>>572346212Weird Route Chapter 5 but Noelle bought a submarine
>>572346212OK. draw the knight, and knight taking helmet off with the face being of whicever character comes to mind first and this will be the truth
>>572346205It's a shame toby doesn't like showing his face because he looks drop dead gorgeous imo
>King hates Queen>Queen hates King>Spamton hates Jevil>Tenna hates Spamton>Ralsei hates Flowery>Catti hates Susie>Everyone hates Berdly>Kris hates the playerwtf I thought this was a game about friendship
>>572346297>I might do it nowOF!! NOTE!!!!!Finishing Weird this chapter saves itself to all your save files.Just bringing this up in case this is something you wouldn't want to happen to you.
>>572346212Pirate Gaster
hugging a floradinnwrapping your legs around a floradinn's thick serpentine tailsliding your dick into a floradinn's holefeeling a floradinn's cock throb between your bellies (if applicable)looking into a floradinn's big dopey eyeskissing a floradinn on their big cute mouth
>>572346212Jevil and Aqua playing a simple numbers game together
>>572346319D-D-D-DAB!!!!
>>572345836"Fucking finally I can't wait to possess Berdly and groom both Susie and Noelle."
>Try to read the new wave of fanfics that came with CH5>Weird route>Weird route>Yaoislop >Weird routeany recommendations?
>>572346212Jevil making a cake
I love fish
>>572346319All the other bullshit in the chapter made me forget how I FUCKING LOVE MY ABSOLUTE GOAT KAUKAU
>>572346212Pic related with Aqua
The weird route festival had the same emotions as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCFYOCkAjqk
>>572346453Kris trying to find out which flower is the best at kissing? I think that'd be pretty hot ngl
>>572346319Love these freaks but the significance of them just being Migosps in ninja costumes eludes me especially with Pink buying the purple soul mode off a "bug"Is Toby implying that bugs become Darkners
>>572346212Pretty fish, please?In a sundress, enjoying summer, and with a big, lovely smile?
>>572346435Do kids even dab anymore?
>>572345904why the fuck is carol's theme in this though
>>572346401Should I make a copy of my save files before starting it in a different folder or something? Playing on PC.
>tfw no deer tomboy childhood friend gfIs life even worth living?
>>572346571wouldve been funnier and more appropriate if they did the usain bolt thing instead
>>572346612Dunno lol.
>>572346049unless they're charismatic enough, and the bar is really low here, you have the only other loser in town, the masochistic doe and the darkner with a lot of self-esteem issues.
What are the chances that Aqua wears any panties down there?
How can I force myself to not care about Deltarune for exactly a year?
>>572346664Can the Titans also cheat or are they bound by the Deltarune game mechanics
>>572346173last silly chapter so they cope
TEN THREADS TWENTY THE 4CHAN MAN
>>572346687Chapter 6 will release in the December-April window trust
do you have to get the eggs sequentially? like you have to do 1-2-3-4 etc or can you chapter hop. also what are the requirements for an objectively good non bricked safe file >all eggs>all crystals>all recruits>all dojo fights >spincake>???
YET THE EVERY DAILYHOPE THAT POWERED THE FLOWER MANWOULD NEVER COWER OFF OF HIS PATHEVEN IF BROKEN I AM MORE THAN GLASSFLOWER MANFLOWER MANWITH HIS HEARTIN THE STANDSO HE STANDSTO WATCH THE WHOLE WIDE WORLDFROM A CAN
>>572346319>>572346543What an awesome design. These and the kitsune are the best Ch5 mobs.
>>572346212Dess caressing Kris's cheek and whisper "Don't tell anyone about this" in a sultry tone, while Kris is looking down/away with a blank look, too blank for a child to have
>>572346664>>572346707>Flowery flat out says "You can ignore my fake stats?">the fans: "wait how did THE KNIGHT cheat?"agenda posters are something else man
>>572346707they probably have the power for it but not the intelligence needed to do so
BUT DON'T BLAME ME WHEN YOU'RE [Crying] IN A [Broken Home] WISHING YOU LET YOUR OLD PAL SPAMTON [Kill You]
>>572346812seconded
>>572346812Second this please please please please please please please please
>>572346838You need either cheats or admin powers to counter cheats though
The PINNACLE of POWERY
>>572345735
>>572346319this bird feels like a reference to the "didn't i do it for you" dog
>>572346212Noelle wringing the water out of her panties after the aborted Ch5 weird route
There should be more art of Catti with her naturally puffy purple hair i.e same as her momNo I won't commission any or draw it myself.
>>572346687Keep using /utg/ until you're ashamed enough
confess your sins
>yaoislopWhat is yaoigem?
>>572346982No confession I'm just going to bed
MY HERO
>>572346543I think so, yeah. It's weird because we should've seen some by now, but maybe he'll drop lore about them avoiding us. The whole point of dark worlds creating darkners out of objects and plants is to make you care about things more, animist-style. That extends to bugs pretty easily
>>572345769From last thread https://voca.ro/1ftZ3zuAdaw5
>>572345921(me)>>572346049Also, to add to my complain. Even if it's supposed to be a gag, in this chapter (at least at the start of the dark world) Susie has the emotional intelligence of a fucking toddler. You can clearly see that Ralsei is being uncomfortable/stressed around Flowery and despises him. And despite that, despite him keeping up with your bullshit from day one, despite what happened in chapter 4, you basically go "dude he's like you but better".
>>572346045Without the black knife or the Soul beating a titan seems impossible, even if Flowery has the hacked stats the knight beats them.
>>572346319this enemy literaly used fascism rethoric
>>572346932I don't think Flowery was actually changing his stats. He was so high off the idea of the power of friendship letting him change fate that he thought he was actually invincible and couldn't possibly lose. If his stats were real he could have one shotted you in his fight.
>the prophecy CANNOT be broken, only reinterpreted>the flower man trapped in asylum MUST appear as a bossWeirdies, prepare to get your shit ROCKED in Chapter 7.
>>572346687You just need to wait.
DESS?Where...Where am I?Hello...? Anyone...?Is... is anybody out there...?Someone!? Anyone!? Can anyone hear me!?...It's dark.It's so dark here.Someone, anyone, if you can hear me...Say something... please...No one can hear me, can they...?...I guess not.To be honest, I'm not even sure if I can hear myself.It's so quiet here...... and yet, sometimes,I swear I hear something...Something like... scratching?What is this place, anyway...?How did I get here?... as if I haven't asked that question a billion times already.I...I always did have that nightmare.Walking into the darkness,With the light shining from the doorway...Then the door slams behind me.And everything goes black.... is this that nightmare?... or was everything else a dream?I'm starting to lose track of the time.Has it been days? Hours?If someone told me it's been years, I might believe them...Before, the sun came up,And so many wonderful things happened that made time meaningful.Things like breakfast, or late night TV...In this place,I don't eat or drink anymore.I can't tell if I'm awake or dreaming.I can't even tell if I'm dead or alive.It's just nothing but pitch black silence.... except for the noise.The scratching noise I sometimes hear...This sounds crazy, but even though no one can hear me,When I hear that noise, I feel like someone's listening.Anyone, if you're there... thank you.I do have one thing, though.And that's memories.Memories of my life...Maybe that's all I am at this point.A collection of memory......Then all I can do is... not forget, right?"Don't forget."I just have to keep telling myself that...
>>572347108>the prophecy re-interprets this as Asgore trapped in the shelter
>>572346042i want these fuckers to kiss at the end of chapter 7.given me a genuine loving relationship Toby. not this wishy washy cringe flirting shit.
>>572346319nyon
>>572346631Dess and Azzy are a balm for the soul
Damn, I didn't realize that I should choose OPPOSITE of Ralsei's choice and chose the wrong one, in the heat of the moment I thought it was just a memory game and I should choose what I just heard.Did I brick my save? Was some internal "cruelty to Ralsei point" was added to my save and now I can't reach the happy end anymore???
How does current /utg/ think of Burgerpants?
>>572347080Chapter 5 really is singlehandedly just fueling the Susie hate train isn't it? And I'm jumping aboard, fuck you barney undyne did it better
>>572346173Ralsei isn't warming up to Kris, he's warming up to YOU. If the romance is bait, it's at the very least profound admiration for YOU, because he has faith YOU can actually do something about the prophecy. He needs to keep playing his part in the play, though, so he still talks to YOU through Kris. This chapter he asked YOU to stay a while and talk instead of checking in on Susie. I think people that believe Ralsei is falling for Kris are being baited. Kris opens fountains. He doesn't like this. It continues the story and doesn't help his goals. YOU, however, provide hope that something could change.
>>572345794I learned After Effects and it's not even worth it now that the entire planet has the attention span of a goldfish. You can make the coolest ass edit ever and people are gonna impulsively skip over it regardless
>>572347143yeah yeah put the eggs in the basket bro
Toriel either directly taught or inspired Dess to get into guitar music after the other instruments didn't pan outSource: Revealed to me in a dream
>>572345735Still the funniest possible thing ever that "Mike" was only ever going to be Spamton and Tenna's tulpa based on a person who MIGHT have existed but years of being stuck on chapter 2 made Mike the fandom's own tulpa too. At least we got some great side characters out of it>because he's wants to convince people and himself it's not his faultYou've got it backwards, yellow's behavior reflects Asgore blaming and punishing himself for not upholding "justice" and letting whoever did whatever on "that day" in the "original dark world" get away, not him taking blame for the actual crimes. While the contrast and shock of Yellow's cheery demeanor and casualness with his explicit stated intention to self harm is played for comedic effect (and quite effectively imo that shit had me in stitches) we know Undertale Asgore will literally kill himself so Frisk can use his soul to cross the barrier if you spare him on a repeated neutral run. Deltarune Asgore is neglecting his own needs and pushing his loved ones away in the pursuit of his "justice" and Yellow reflects that while also having his cheery and silly persona otherwise
>>572347080Susie is a goddamn moron and no one can deny that. She somehow cannot sense the ominous clouds hovering around everyone in the weird route two seconds before her two best friends try to march towards the depth of the abyss.
Idk man I kinda feel like deltarune is becoming a bit shit
>>572346571The dab hasn't been a thing since like 2015. Except ironically which is almost as bad as doing it sincerely
>>572347012Cho-Aniki
>>572347106he did change his stats, but that constrained him into the system of the dark worlds logic. the roaring knight can exceed that logic and the "magic circle" of make-believe. getting caught in tag only works if youre playing, and absolutely nothing if you're not playing
Pic related is all the Shadow Crystals interactions the game.Seam said this:>The Shadow Crystals are far more than mere pieces of glass. In actuality, they contain a certain power.>You could call this the power of "will".>... no, perhaps "will" isn't right. The power they contain is...>"The power of lost dreams".>When a strong attachment is formed... when a dream is gripped tightly... and then broken off. These... are the shards that remain>"Failed dreams"... of course, these things are useless to you, Kris.>I, however, am aware of something interesting we can do with them. Something very, very, interesting.>No doubt you will find it quite entertaining! Hahaha!!!What kind of dream would be one where Susie is glaring at you or one where Kris doesn't exist?I'm bit lost on the whole lost dreams thing
>>572347080imagine how much worse itd be for ralsei if flowery didnt even antagonize him, not even a bit of teasing, just a completely nice guyHe'd have to stew in envy fueled by susies words and he couldnt even lash out at flowery without seeming like an assholei dunno what else ralsei would do
ANNOYING MAN, ANNOYING MANHIS HEART'S FORTHING, JAPAN
>>572347290Literally chapter 5. Not really, not even close. But literally chapter 5
>>572346858THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic].YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR....... YOU LOST IT...
>Dess is a trans woman>Ralsei is a trans woman>Kris is a trans woman>Noelle is a trans woman>Susie is a trans womanIs there any character in this game that isn’t a trans woman?
>>572347238Could be...we are searching for corpse? And all this unused lines are Dess's words stuck in a loop. Stalker anomaly style. Where stalkers died for few weeks now, but radio signal was still getting repeated
>>572347267I wonder what Toby's original plan for mike was. You cannot tell me he always created it to be a 3d chess theory mockery joke.
Finished chapter 5 yesterday and can finally talk about here, I thought it was the second best chapter after ch4. Music & story were incredible, Flowery is the best chapter boss we've had so far. I love Aqua and Seth!I'm seeing that theorybrained types didn't like the chapter because it wasn't what they were expecting. What are you guys thoughts on ch5?(also I saw a surprising amount of people complaining the flowery fight was hard, for me it was the easiest I can remember I think I used maybe 3 healing items total. Did people really struggle that bad with the dash and parry timings??)
>>572347336mettaton
WAY UP HIGHIN THE SKYWITH THE SUNIN HIS EYES
>>572346687I don't know.
>>572347336(You)
reposting>>572347258unrelated to what this guy is saying in the post buti don't get why ralsei only now says this and decides to keep us from looking at what susie's doing this chapterlike i thought the whole point of ralsei suggesting we switch to susie's pov in the previous chapters was so that we the players could give him and kris some privacy while they talk about meta shit and everything about the dark worlds. and like he himself wanted us to look at what susie was doing those times. so why only let us see what they're talking about between the two of them this time?
>>572347309WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT ALL MEANWHAT DOES IT MEANTOBYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>572347424Anon, I don't know how to tell you this.
>>572347336that's just how it is with this demographic. every character must be [insert novel wacky and zany and totally not annoying and also definitely oppressed demographic here]
>>572347349Mike is the microphone that Shyra was buried with and the end of the subplot is her Dustner overwriting whatever Darkner Mike was and Tenna and Spamton having to let it go
>>572346803MY KING
So were there any CH5 fan theories that actually ended up being somewhat true? Because after playing it I just thought lol everyone (self included) was wrong about what would happen in it
>>572347456Are you samefagging or are you really just taking the bait and running with it like it's true. I don't even know, there's been too much retardation in these threads
>>572347349It will end up unexplained. Just like FRIEND *laughs*
Flowery dancing downstairs like Inspector Cabanela.
Spamton scares me when I see pictures of him posted in the thread it makes me feel stressed.
>>572347456>le transexuals were invented in 2015 by klaus schwab
I want Susie
>>572347424The game uses it/its pronouns for (You), so...Also Pink fight hints that we have to transition to Kris' gender (whatever it is) if we want the whole possessing Kris thing to work out.
>>572347483I knew the Suselle date was going to have absolutely no substanceBut I did think there would be some sort of friction thrown into it in the latter half of the chapter so not 100%
>>572347448He's not being sneaky anymore and genuinely wants to give Kris some alone time with Susie if they want it AND allows (You) to see what he has to say to Kris meaning he's trusting (You) a little more as well
i think trans people are awesome and the more that exist in this game the better, unironically
what are some good kralsei fics
Heh! YOU'RE a hero?
>>572346982I got up to Mettaton for the first time today. It's true that Undertale is much easier than Deltarune but the UI and the way I have to backtrack from a boss to buy healing items make it "harder"
>>572347509>*slosh*>*slosh*>*slosh*
>>572347519>>572347531I respect transgender people and think they are men/women but I don’t like them and find them annoying so avoid them at all costs
>>572347519It's not the bait. It's basically what the non-channer fandom is saying now. See the latest JaruJaru video
how serious will be chapter 6?no more starwalker no more moss... scarier than jackenstein...
>>572347528Is that so?
>>572347614That's fine, I can work with that.
>greetings lightner traveler, may i suck out the demon within (You)? it will restore your HP to full :3how do you respond without sounding like a sinner
>>572347614>I respect transgender peopleI don't>>572347619>See the latest JaruJaru videoI don't
I think trans people are alright but "enbies" are fake attention seekers.
>>572347667"i'm good ty"
>>572347629YOUR ROARING TOO MUCH
>>572347330So is this foreshadowing that you’re locked out of the good ending if you do WR?
>>572347378Loved it a lot.As you said Flowery was the best chapter boss, it was funny and had great moments, and as you said (again) Aqua and Seth were a fantastic duo.I struggled a lot against Flowery, but it was still a great battle with one if Deltarune's best themes.
>>572347309They are all showing the near futureI am Toby fox
>>572347676based
>>572346042If there's ONE thing I miss about pre-Ch5, it's the optimism we had about Dess and Azzy maybe being a thing, and faintly, just faintly, the possibility of a good ending for them.Man...
>>572347639Yeah but it’s mainly because of someone I knew on discord who had a spamton pfp.
Normal NPC, I am praying for you, please, take the life of the people in this thread, they are ready, I promise you they are ready.
>>572347753Flowery became easier when i realized what was going on and switched from my Deltarune brain to my Kingdom Hearts brain
>>572347450the shadow crystals don't let you see reality. theyre broken dreams, and that's what you see>the closet is just a closet>the lab is just the lab>the broken tv is just a broken tv>susie scowls at you>noelle smiling at you with flowers in hand>your mother holding someone elsethis is probably why the undyne frozen in ice text was discarded because it doesn't make sense as a broken dream. bit of a rewrite
>>572347629TOO SCAIRY!!!!!!
>>572347349>I wonder what Toby's original plan for mike wasGiven that tenna alludes to there being an "original mike" that he and spamton did actually know them whoever or whatever he is probably has always been something that tony planned even if it's not gonna be "big." I imagine that the original reveal was going to be that "mike" was just a pippins that played along with Tenna's fantasy that Mike was still around to keep him happy and all the mania inspired Toby to expand the idea and make some tongue-in-cheek cutscenes lampshading the theory craze and add some cute mini games
>>572347309I think the loat dreams are things like Mettaton creating his body, and what we see aren't lost dreams but rather different possibilities, with their interaction with the prophecy.
>>572346042i hate shipniggers anyways so if this is all that's left, based
Ghost seggs
>>572347221Funny guy. Im enjoying seeing Tony flesh his spaghetti -dropping ways out. Catti is the one btw
>>572347815So like, they're the opposite of dreams? Like they show you a reality where what you want is dispelled? No imaginary worlds, no character development? That's convoluted as fuck and I hope Toby didn't change ideas midway through and fuck up the consistency of the writing.
>>572347523I think I will actually be mad if Friend gets explained. It's nice to have cryptic shit that hints at a greater picture without fully revealing it, like Gaster.
EWWWLESBIANS>*sprays nol and sus with fire extinguisher*
>>572347378I loved it. 10/10 chapter for me hitting all the right notes of dread, tension, hype, friendship, and escalation. Flowery is currently the king of my mindscape.
>>572346061pls pls pls let the knight be rudy it would make this so kino
EWWWFAGGOTS>*sprays ralsei and me with fire extinguisher*
>chapter 4 Susie's character development >"Ohh it's ok susie. Even if you're not good at it, if you work hard and keep trying you can do anything.">chapter 5 Ralsei's character development>"BAHAHAHA look how fucking pathetic you are, trying to save your friends and the world from doom."
>>572347795Since the release of Chapter 5 the only thing making these threads usable have been Floweryposting and Normalposting... I hope the newfags go away soon so Flowery and NormalNPC can co-exist with Tenna and Pippins
EWWWFAGGOT>pic related
>>572348058Chapter 5 Ralsei was based DESU
>>572348004True actually, light vs dark
same but everything stays unexplained I LOVE VAGUEPOSTING
>>572347309With how Noelle-centric these are getting, I'm starting to think the Shadow Crystal visions are just showing you glimpses of the weird route's future. But the television one seems to be showing something from the past, unless Kris and Noelle decide to SMASH THEIR TV WITH A BATTERING RAM at some point in the future for whatever reason. The ones about Susie being pissed off all make sense, but I don't know what the Toriel one implies; she adopts a new kid...?
>>572348131
>>572347897Mettaton ghost x Nice Cream Guy
>>572347815>>572347450Those last three kind of ring to me as more in relation to the player than Kris. Susie is unfamiliar with you, unlike Kris. Noelle is the only other Lightner than Kris to actually interact with you directly via the weird route, and that last one with Toriel holding someone else could very well be the vessel, and if so that ties back into Kris seeing through their hand.
>>572348129That's the grill he uses to make his Hotdogs and Hotcats in Undertale.
>>572347378Thought it was great and honestly, even if you are theory brained, if you can read between the lines it has a lot to chew on. It really feels like this is the final farewell before shit hits the fan. Was also the most fun gameplay wise and it didn't have you sitting still for too long before putting you back into the action.
>>572347378Chapter 5 was nearly perfect. The music, the environments, the characters, the fights, the comedy. The only thing I would change? I would make Flowery even STRONGER.
>>572347915yeah i think it shows broken dreams and the world that results from that, probably tied to the dark worlds as a source of fantasy fulfillment. interestingly kris cant see themselves in the broken dream world meaning they mustve been the result of someones hopes and dreams
>>572348129>He hates it!
I’m not kidding when I say I haven’t played Deltarune yet and only know of the characters from porn I’ve seen around can one of you explain the plot to me in maybe six sentences tops
>>572348164
>>572347336None of these people are trans, and I will never understand the obsession with it. Everywhere else the talks is more about what "Gender" and "Trans" characters are, like it's a personality trait. Like, not even into the game for it being good.
>>572348160there is no timeloopthere are no amalgamatesnoelle took the soul in the lakekris is deadnoelle is never heard from againvagueposters FUARKING WIN
Toby's a great composer but he seems to have a tough time with lyrics. I thought some of the nonsense lyrics in the chapter 3 song were on purpose since a teenager wrote it, but then Flower Man had them too.
>>572348225Flowery can't be too hard because he's a mandatory boss and the kiddos will complain.
>>572348273kill yourself
>>572348353The Flower Man lyrics are supposed to be a bad English localization of the coolest song you've ever heard.
>>572348287
Schizotheory: all of the secret bosses represent Kris at different stages of their lifeJevil: very young Kris before the Dess incident, similar speech quirk to AquaSpamton: Kris's current mental state, being puppeted by someone else and craving freedomERAM/Mantle: Kris during/right after Dess's disappearance grappling with PTSD symptoms and intrusive thoughtsGerson: An older, wiser Kris from the far future with self acceptance. No longer feeling overly emotional about the things beyond their control.Maddie: The end point of (You) and Kris's relationship in a neutral/pacifist route. You both grow to understand each other and can finally cooperate in sync with each other.
/utg/ is going to turn from a noblebright disneyland Flowery tribute into a fucking Silent Hill asylum after Ch6/7, I just know it. We're all going to be depressed and talking about the tragedy and how fucking miserable everything is
>>572348328>Thanks for walking me to my and Noelle's home
>>572348328>chapter 6 loads into an army manager>arrange your units to defend castle town from kris, the knight, carol and rudy>deltabloonskino
>>572348425
>>572348402Nah
>>572348353tbf both of the vocal tracks in chapter 5 are parodies of anime insert songs
>>572347309okay, so my interpretation, left to right, top to bottom>Seems like it's talking about the true nature of Darkners?>Just good ol' Kris having existential crisis>...which computer lab exactly?>There are two reasons i can think of that Susie would hate or at least angry at Kris, that is if she found out about their agenda, or if they never became friend in the first place.>"Smashed to pieces" Interesting choice of words. Perhaps when someone gets too angry and lashes out?>This is pretty straight-forward, but if i have to guess if it happens on Normal or Weird route... both.>Lake scene.>Shadow Crystal are formed from broken dreams. So could the Church be someone's failed dreams and regrets?>The next two are just talking about how the Prophecy is unchangeable. No matter if you try to create some minor deviance like Susie is doing right now, or go completely off the rail like in the weird route, it ultimately won't matter. >Just good ol' Kris having existential crisis part 2, or maybe it's talking about how Toriel is holding someone else other than Asgore.>Post-weird route syndrome.>Post-weird route syndrome pt. 2
>>572348431Kris isn't ever going to grow old, anon...
>>572348391The kiddos NEED to be made to eat shit. The harder the boss, the fonder your memories of the encounter.
Hey /yooteegee/, got any art of Maddy's shopkeeper dress?
>>572348273with spoilers or just a vague outline?
>>572348471Where'd the berducky go
>>572348529
>>572348570all of them make sense as broken dreams or the result of broken dreams (except undyne which makes sense because it was cut)
>>572348546ghost upskirt... lewd...
The more I think of Susie the more I'm starting to despise her.
>>572348626
>>572347378>Did people really struggle that bad with the dash and parry timings??yes :(
>Friend Inside Me was split between Pink and YellowI WILL NEVER DIE
>>572348595too soon for that. let them get the catgirl titty poison out
>>572347378At first, I wasn't sure how to feel about it. There was a lot I didn't like (Suselle is totally radioactive to me so it dominating Susie's character and haunting the chapter overall sucked). Some of the music blends together (but the good tracks are really fucking good), and Mew Mew is easily the least interesting shadow crystal encounter. But, the more I think on it, the more I like the chapter. Gimmick was awesome, I knew Flowery would get on my nerves in a good way from the getgo, and Asgore being so prevalent is over 10 years in the making after barely getting to know him in Undertale. I hope that all the soft puppy love shit being set up here is so that it's delightfully blown up in Chapter 6, but I'm worried that landing won't be stuck.
Chara made me doing genocide was canon and the jokes made toby mad so now he's redoing it with noelle, hope you understand it now that yes genocide was chara choice and your choices don't matter
>>572348273Flowery.>the magic of Flowey>the conviction of Frisk>the swagger of Undyne>the charisma of MettatonThis is all you need to know.
>>572348273evil fucking clown gets the answer to the universe caved into his skull and becomes retarded
kris kabedon'g ralsei (fat ass ver….)
>>572348273Two teenagers go on a coming-of-age adventure in a parallel world and it goes really, really fucking badly.
>>572348713Chara only goes full evil if you teach them by example
>>572348665Chapter 5 really took a fuck ton of good will built up toward her over 4 chapters and slam dunked in the trash for more Suselle.
>>572348665if you think about any of Toby's characters for more than 5 minutes that happens.
>>572348671
>>572348601Spoilers fine
>>572348665Just big and greedy. I think her and Noelle are doomed though.
>>572348612So cool.So cool.So cool.So cool.
>>572348816
>>572348665Hating Susie because she's supposed to understand that the person who's using her while hiding all of their feelings feels left out is very grim
>>572347267There had to be originator of idea of mike, tenna calling Mike theese days and the pretend trio answering is only because there was a Mike tenna was receiving help from before. Green pippins says that when tenna ask something from Mike, either tenna does it himself, the trio does it or sometimes things happen on their own>He just does it himself, we do it secretly, or...> It just sorta happens!
>>572348273Pajama Sam: No Need to Hide When it's Dark Outside
>>572345703yoo tee gee please post more creepy art like this I'm tired of the fluffy creature
>>572348862
>>572348665It's not her fault.
>>572348954
>it's another /v/ pretending to be retarded rerun>(You) baiting-paloozacan normalnpc kill the summerfags now
You've just realised this is now canon.
finally completed Undertale (true pacifist) for the first time and i have to say uhh. i’m still confused as to why people talk about how important Gaster is to deltarune bc like. he’s even less relevant in Undertale than i thought
OMEGA FLOWERYLAST JARONA
Also here's all the mirror interactions in the game.I think it's safe to say Kris is suffering from identity crisis due our prolonged control.
>>572348997
>>572348797why the FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE CARE ABOUT SHIPPING THIS MUCH THE GAME ISNT ABOUT SHIPPING
>>572345703I'm all in on "alternate timeline amalgamate" theory.
>>572349029The reason Gaster being a big deal in Deltarune is so exciting is because Gaster was this inexplicable lurking background presence that appeared in Undertale usually only when you fucked around with the game files. Before SURVEY_PROGRAM dropped we had absolutely no idea what to make of it.
>>572349080>single paw padoffmodel trash
>>572348943>pajama samThe start of my childhood fujo degeneracy at age five…
>>572349042This is so sad.Alexa, order more quirk chungus Deltarune merch.
>>572348353There's a reason some musicians work with lyricists. Being good at one thing doesn't make you good at the other.
>>572349080>single paw pad freaking CUTE
>>572349080
Either he's going to be an 11th hour character or he won't show up at all.
>>572349092their brains cannot comprehend characters acting in ways they disagree with to tell a story, they need to all be neutral dolls they can pick up and mash their faces together
>>572349092Despite everything Toby is neurotypical so when he writes complex character relationships that can't be to whittled down to just which ship won or lost and who's in the right or wrong in his quirky autistbait game it confuses people
>>572349000>tripsMay what you wish for happen... It's only 2G, I mean It's only for free.
>>572349175
I just realized something.Is Deltarune the promised "Undertale Hard Mode"?
>>572348936No I don't care about that, I despise her because she thinks and acts as if the world revolves around her. I get you're poor, had no friends, lacked attention and care, but jesus fucking christ...
>>572347378I was severely disappointed by the lack of answers. The only thing we've learned was the reason for Toriel and Asgore's divorce. And what the shadow crystals are I guess, but that stuff is optional.
>>572348829From our current understanding of the storyYou're a Kris' soul, who controls him during his adventures to seal dark fountains, magical constructs an antagonistic figure named the roaring knight and his collaborators (among which secretly Kris himself) creates, risking to cause the apocalypse, for some mysterious reason connected to the disappearance of a girl years ago.Also everything is part of an ancestral prophecy that can't be defied, but in your attempt to do so you can discover an hidden route where you mindbreak Kris' innocent feined in a quest for freedom, killing tons of people in your road.
>>572349268
>>572349196He's going to step in when the Knight is about to kill everyone and he will unlock his Disbelief Papyrus form to kill him at the cost of his life. As a reward for his sacrifice the Lifestream will reincarnate him in Undertale.
>>572349271Undertale but it makes my dick hard has been pretty accurate to describe Deltarune so far.
Haha. Sorry about that, little guy!
>>572349328
>>572349328POV: I made my way to ralsei inside the baloon
>>572349278I hate her because she’s big and greedy
>>572349249This guy really creeps me out
>>572349215This is what really gets me about any fandom. So so few people can appreciate complex characters, they're simply incapable of imagining anything outside of their own personal view and motivations, and how that character makes them feel. So naturally when they don't get worshipped it's the apocalypse...
>>572348665I'm waiting for this bitch to slowly become a Vriska.
>>572349279This chapter was basically a blanket confirmation of theories (aka following up on foreshadowing) without offering any new information. Most of the popular theories were already basically proven by foreshadowing (e.g. Dess and Asriel being in a relationship), but this is their payoff.
>>572349405
>>572349196Chapter 5 was the final nail in the coffin for Papyrus for me. I don't see him being relevant anymore, which is a shame because I always liked Papyrus
>>572349146How on Earth did pajama sam make you a fujo
>>572349473I like when Ralsei actually looks like a guy.
>>572349384These two should fuck.
>>572349384how would ch5 change if instead of mocking ralsei flowery just constantly flirts with him insteadThis assume flowery still has the Perfect, Ideal Hero thing that made ralsei so envious in the first place
>>572348692Aww not even one? I wanna see her canon elegant dress more :'(((( I only got this one.
>>572349473
Noelle's the one that's going to become a VriskaDidn't you hear those Megalovania-esque guitars in the Weird Route by the lake?
>>572349215uh no, i just don't want her entire story to revolve around noelle from now on. is that too much to ask?
Which girl is Ramb referring to?
>>572349518Group chat is going to be pissed
>>572349549
>>572349557>deltarune is just one long rewrite of halloween hack with toby's original IP
>>572349630Noelle or Dess. They're really the only two candidates that fit the time frame.
What is your preferred theory as to who the Knight is, /utg/?
>>572349557How fitting that the Hussie character becomes a Vriska, then.
I'm not reading anything ITT but I just need to share that I just started playing and I'm in fucking agony not being able to talk about it due to spoilers because I'm so far behind. Doesn't help that all my algorithms have caught onto my interest and keep recommending me shit that I can't look at yet.
>>572349573Third Act Break-up will happen. Trust the plan.Either that, or Noelle will be kidnapped before she can be invited.
>>572349646
>>572349465And I'm waiting for Kris to become a Eridan
>>572349520I can't even imagine how much good getting laid would do for Ralsei's character.
>>572349515thats what im saying where’s the art of flowery mating pressing ralsei while mockingly calling him a princess
>>572349573you are genuinely retarded man I'm sorry you have to live like this it must be miserable
>>572349302Thanks for honest answer. I think I got to the point where Susie pretends to chomp Kris then backs out at school before I stopped
>>572349729
>>572349696All of them are extremely viable and I hate it
good morning /utg/good morning mewmew
>>572349749Worst possible thing that could happen, NO nigga...
>>572349706HURRY ANON, DON'T WAIT! DON'T WAIT!
>>572349706Godspeed anon, you will soon be able to join for trivialities and derivatives like it's meant to be experienced.
Noelle's gonna be super pissed in the rest of the weird route when she finds out Kris never actually changed, and Not!Kris is just a completely different entity that's taken over their bodyIt might even push her into becoming a super boss herself to try and prove she can completely change even if Kris couldn't
>>572349793
>>572349489It’s an unpleasant story.
>>572349775You're welcome.The three protagonists are Kris, Susie and Ralsei.If you have other questions ask away.
>>572349520a flower can do both
>>572349819>chapter 6>soul goes inside susie>we get to finally talk with kris>incel sperg out>he joins the knight>the knight kills his ass
>>572349749are they in ss13
>>572349749Fuck that'd be funny. I hope it happens.
>>572349729>>572349874White boys can't kickflip
Especially the books upstairs.
>>572349874
>>572349749Berdley is the Eridan coded one
It was confirmed that Dess and Asriel sucked shit at music and it was Kris's talent that made them special
Especially the cuck chair upstair.
>>572349934grim>>572349974
>>572349773yes, what a horrible existence to be able to find issues in what i like and not just blindly love everything that's put in front of me like a lobotomized egg
>>572349501he always does
the game is intended for hardcore undertale autists who combed through the game for everything.
>>572350045
>>572350047she's only got 2 more chapters dude, the rest of the game could be a noelle date and statistically the game is not mostly suselle
none of the ralseis being posted itt were created with god's permission
>>572347378Anything that Toby puts out is always incredible. That said, compared to the previous chapters it felt more 'fillery'. All 7 flowers had to be introduced, developed and get a proper send off, so the rest took a bit of a back seat, including Asgore's story which felt a tad rushed. I preferred the Suselle moments in chapter 4. Other than that, incredible as always.
>>572350127
Real furrys don't just change their fursonas
>>572349343But Undertale had Muffet...
Kriselle knight will be the hated theory of post ch5 era but i love it
>>572349974cute trans girl!! its canon btw :3
>>572350110It's funny seeing a lot of posts saying this and a huge amount of posts saying shit like "WOW YOU EXPECTED LORE FROM DELTARUNE? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, YOU NEED TO LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS"
What do you guys think of the theory that the Knight is Kris (possibly fused with Noelee) from the Weird Route who reset themselves in the normal route?
>>572349980Nahh, Berdly is way more of a Cronus I feel.
>>572350181he referenced this in chapter 5 btw
>>572350176
>>572350136stop lying
chapter 3chapter 4chapter 5all fillers
>>572350243>>572350254
>>572350054I don't think he's usually portrayed very boyishly at all. Which is a shame.
Kris - MinecraftSusie - Dragon QuestRalsei - Animal CrossingLancer - GTA
>572350275(Yuo)
Does anyone have the pirate gaster theme on them?
>>572350136I'm a pantheist. As an aspect of the godhead I give them permission
i need that painting of all the warriors kneeling at jesus' feet, but with mewmew
>>572350275This but unironically. There's some parts of 4 that definitely isn't filler but most of the time spent playing is just more of the same
>>572350110It really isn't, though. I haven't even played Undertale and consider Deltarune an incredible rpg. Toby's character writing and ability to tell a story is incredibly high level.
>>572350247Creates more problems than it solves because why the hell would Kris Suicide Dreemurr be making promises to their own self
>>572350220are the huge number of posts in the room with us
>>572349524i want it too, anon but i can't draw or i would. sorry
>>572350317
>Tfw everytime Mewmew gets mentioned someone comment about how absolute dickmove was Susie cucking KriskekLet me make a prediction, this will be the "Toriel is a bad mom" from chapter 4.It will start as a joke but it will grow and after a few months people will start hating herAnd then Toby will have to put a dialogue in chapter 6 about how that was actually a good thing and Susie is not to blame at all, like he did with Sans and Toriel this one
Honest question, how many hints and build up we had through chapters 1 to 4 for Ralsei being trans? I'm not sure if I'm missing anything, but the concept of him having gender dysphoria really came out of nowhere ...
>>572345476I think people are sleeping on the fact that the prophecy is the list of flags in the code in-universe, and not a mystical magical prophecy enforced by angels or whatever. Glitching past it is very interesting, but also probably just takes you to the same ending
Chat i might be becoming insane enough to believe I can do a cover for Flower Man that won't suck doodooshit.
>>572349630Likely Dess
>>572350376please play undertale i like it
>>572350251Cronus is just an Eridan that got a bit older, tried to reinvent himself to become less cringe and more interesting, and fell into a different pit of arrested development
>>572350396
>>572345476Hooman!
>>572350346Isn't it just thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWADynlMHZw
>>572350427>Honest question, how many hints and build up we had through chapters 1 to 4 for Ralsei being trans?I wasn't even a real tranny yet but when survey program came out at the end when Ralsei tool the hat off something in my gut said "this white boy is gonna troon"
>>572350427None. It's just people being retards and deliberately misconstruing Ralsei getting teased by Flowery
I still want my vessel back, but I don't want Kris to die of soullessness. Can Gaster get another SOUL for me to give them?
>>572350454LIVE YOUR DREAMS
Reminder that human-like Maddy lewds are fine but they cannot go past an 8/10 without doll joints. I do not make the fucking rules.
>>572350485Thank you for posting with me, fren! I wish you a nice day! Byeeeee! :D
>>572350427Chapter 4 introduces the specific wording of the prophecy that genders the roles: The prince and the girl are gendered, the cage is not and is directly unpersoned except via the images that show 3 heroes.
>>572350470Planning to do it in between Chapter 5 and 6. It's about time.
>>572349696It seems more and more likely that Roaring Knight is a mantle for multiple generations
>>572350503Okay yeah that's it.I forgot it was actually a real thing Toby made, I just saw it associated with Gaster in a pirate hat for some reason.
>>572346212Frisk, Chara and Aqua playing with knives.
>>572350427current theory is that he is a pinetree, and pinetree don't have a gender
>>572349436>haha look its that grey weirdo from undertale>lmao he's a wall blorbo to keep us away from lore books>dumb fucker can't speak lol>oh shit this nigga wasn't playing oh shit guys fuck what the fuck
>>572350320if I see ralsei I see a boy. Dresses and makeup or not.
The only reason you like Ralsei is because he makes you horny, if someone was like Ralsei in real life you'd treat him like shit.
>>572350247Dislike.It assumes time travel different from the save points, it has little to 0 foreshadowing, doesn't add anything to either character and generally is what Battat commented as just assuming it's true because it looks cool.Becomes worse if you add noelle, even if at least explains the sounds and the horns.
>>572350542Mew Mew in chapter 5 is made from a scale figure, though, so she doesn't have joints. And I'm saying this as a huge doll joints enjoyer.
>>572350543likewise!! cya!!
>>572350550yay! i love deltarune but undertale made me who i am today. as fruity as that sounds. it's very special, too. a bit simple now, compared to deltarune, but i think you'll find it's very concise and realized by comparison! and still a huge 7~ hour treat!
>>572350405Cuck accusations are kinda the big thing in chapter 5 already with suselle and how some /v/ posters weirdly feel like suselle being confirmed is a personal attack on THEM, like THEY'RE getting cucked by fictional characters and they're barred from consuming porn of either of the characters because a controversial ship got confirmed. I'm not really a huge suselle fan but it boggles the mind
>>572350637We have that in common because Ralsei also treats himself like shit
Can anyone explain the freaking mechanics of our control over Kris? How come sometimes he resists us, and others we take complete control?Is it related to their mental state?
How would hugging a gote feel?
>>572350272Still fun that the final boss was gold and the secret was Pink.
>>572350615 pinetrees are some of the few plants that actually have two separate sexes that an individual is born into
>>572350632Ralsei is European. Refuses to buy air condition even though he can afford it, complains about the heat
>>572350542I want to fuck weird living dolls, and make'em my wife!
>>572350631>Wait, don't! WAIT, DON'T!>Especially>the don't.
>>572350749>THEY'RE getting cucked by fictional charactersWhy does susie like noelle more than me? am I not enough?????
know the difference between Kris and Aqua, it could save you
Can someone me explain why do you think Ralsei is a trans girl without sounding insane?
>>572350547It does, but is this any kind of build up for Ralsei not wanting to be a boy?>>572350505Sure, but that's not a hint or build up?
>>572350807But what if it gives him a cold! Luften is enough.*fucking dies*
>>572350802CUTE BOY PINETREES!!!!
Susie's susies
>>572350247Complete crack theory fueled by hype moments and aura only. Doesn't explain the Knight's motivations in the slightest nor why is Kris helping their future PROCEEDed self.
>>572350859i think it might just be shitposting. i don't know anymore.
I want to serve Flowery
>>572350859Can you just be normal and not talk about retarded shit
>>572350773They save their energy until the appropriate time. Without us they get sicker and sicker, so playing the puppet for a full day give them barely enough time to pull an allnighter for the plan
>>572350427Honest answer: I don't care any near enough about discussing gendershit on 4chan to go trawling through the wiki to give you a dot point summary of all the times Ralsei said something Eggy or otherwise repressive re: "being Ralsei" vs "being whatever Kris/the Prophecy want him to be"
>>572350859I don't think they're trans, I think they're genderfluid.
>>572347228Everything Ralsei says in that scene is directed at Kris though. He talks about the dark fountains that Kris opens, he praises Kris's piano playing (again), and if you look at his overworld sprite, he's staring at Kris the whole time instead of looking straight forward towards the screen like he often does when he's addressing the player. The point of the scene, similar to the Gerson tea party from chapter 4, is that Ralsei is distinguishing between (You) and Kris more and he genuinely likes Kris while he's just appeasing (You) in the vain hope that it will keep you playing long enough to save the world.
>>572350902Fuck OFF! BITCH!!
>>572350859people can't read.
>>572350924Suckle it up!
>>572350946would you drink a glass of ralsei?
>>572350902She's 17 and 6 months how dare you!
>>572350967Booby. Hee hee.
>>572350540>I am breaking your heart my child...
Toby Fox is deeply racist, my former friends DM'd me asking how much Hüpfenjumpen and Freudekuchen I do every do
funihttps://youtu.be/1oZ5j3ZU1KQ
>>572350547because if Toby gave a gender to the cage(vessel/kris) people would be fucking malding>>572350637no shit sherlock, I like what my eyes like. I don't know if you noticed but bipedal antro goats with toe beans and pink horns don't exist in real life
>>572350859I don't think Ralsei is a trans girl, I think Ralsei is a genderless creature who decided his own gender based on the prophecy and can move past that in the future. By identifying so much with the prophecy he has made himself into a predictable creature, and that's NO GOOD
>>572350637that is NOT TRUEI would love ralsei no matter what
>>572346243She's so cute
>>572350427I look at that Deltarune forum people talk about and it seems like everyone is calling Ralsei a she/her there nowThey were also talking about transmasc Noelle headcanonsI felt like an aneurism was popping in my brain it's like those people are talking about a completely different game
>>572350686I'm pretty convinced Asgore mentions she's an action figure, which do have joints. I'm picturing a revoltech. I am gonna go back and replay the beginning of CH5 to get some church dialogue and will check for myself.
>>572351038I'd rather drink it straight from the source
>>572351080great now i won't get this out of my fucking head when I listen to Flower Man THank you anon
>>572351136have you ever read y*utube comments on tracks from the games? it's demented.
Oh yeah, Orange was totally based on her
>>572350872It does imply that Ralsei's gender comes from the prophecy and wanting to fit it, that he didn't have it before he knew his role in it
>>572351080Triple T theory...
>>572350902Susie's canonically stinky susies
>>572350807well, he speaks british, lives in a castle and darkners keep migrating to his fountain.
>>572346543>especially with Pink buying the purple soul mode off a "bug"She meant a computer bug by the way.
>>572350615That theory is pretty weak, clearly Ralsei as a very direct relation to Kris, since it's always asking them permission to have individuality. He has to be a part of Kris, or their creation.>>572350953You don't have even one or two moments that come to mind? ...
>>572351254>susie fanning her shirt on a hot day and stinking up the classroom
So you think Dess and Asriel ever got past second base?
>>572348782Chara was always evil. He always wanted to kill all humans, and always didn't care about monster lives. You can call it a mental illness or a quirk if you want, I call it "evil".
>>572351193I mainly saw her as being younger Undyne but I wouldn't be surprised if this was an influence given how 2hu this chapter was overall.
>>572346398>>King hates Queen>>Queen hates KingWrong>Oh Hoop And Stick You Are My Only Ally Now>That And My Ex Husband Or Whatever He IsThey're just mutually tsundere
>susie fanning her farts on a hot day stinking up the class room while noelle huffs the fumes violently
Asgore/Maddy is such a fucking TREASURE. Take the stupid catgirl Asgore, your horrible whööre wife could never. Best ship in the game.
as an Australian this is hilarious
>>572351039All the fun gang is legal.
>>572351350i think asriel used to hotdog dess' deerpussy and make her beg for it but asriel wanted to wait for marriagethen they'd go right to bed without getting off at all
>>572351350Yeah, Dess totally fingered the goat.
Seth feet
The ending fight has to be some of the most peak game Toby has ever made. The song makes me fucking cry during the fight, especially when all the flowers join the fight. They're all fighting for their existence and true friendship. Fuck man... it's pure fucking art and speaks to my soul and being.
>>572351101No, retard. It's because the prophecy is vague that there are ways around it. The 3 heroes don't need to be the Prince, Girl and Cage, for example, you just need a Prince, Girl and Cage in the 3 heroes, and you can fulfill the requirements more than once per person. Someone with complicated enough identity can be all 3, but it's difficult
>>572351472>Kris can still answer "Not if you don't go" hereWere they really holding out hope that they weren't going into the water 10 minutes later or was this just trying to make Susie feel better
a lot of people treat ralseis ch5 crashout as a joke which it is really funny at TIMES but it definitely reinforced the fact that they HATE when things are “out of their control” / “off the script”, because that’s all their live has been. a script, a prophecy, a play.ralsei has never had freedom of choice, from the moment they were bornthey stood robed in the middle of a forgotten world waiting for their “role”, and they do everything by the book ..literally! they wrote an entire manual! it also makes you wonder if they KNOW their digital or not because it really seems sotheir a prince without power. a submissive royal. they’ve spent their entire life predicting the future, so when something goes off script they just..get scared. flowery is the perfect parallel, because unlike ralsei: he’s an attention grabber, he’s great with people and he bends the rules to his will…because, he quite literally has the world in the palm of his hand. why would he listen to silly rules?ralsei sees that and honestly, maybe kind of envies it . the more they get stepped on [LITERALLY. we use ralsei as a stool ALL of the time] the more they begrudgingly accept that they understand flowery, where as flowery understood from the startin any other game, the roles would’ve been switched. ralsei is royalty, and their word is absolute. flowery is just another object brought to life. so why is he the only one free from shackles?
>>572351350yeah dess was pregnant and the knight is what happens when a fetus turns into a darkner
Six foot nothingthe manlet man
>>572351472What is the over/under that this was specifically included to quell "you can't draw porn of the fun gang they're minors" discussion
>>572351543aren't they a little clean for a nerd?
>>572351350They got to Base 37 and live there under new identities where they are under constant watch and armed protection from anti-dark demon security personnel who are trained to combat dark cat demons that show you the video game source code that makes you go crazy.
>>572351472Moral EjaculationsToby knew everyone was goona be busting every nut and gushing every pussy
>>572348570>or go completely off the rail like in the weird route, it ultimately won't matterThe prophecy is broken in the weird route because all of chapter 5 doesn’t happen
>>572351350Friend is their unborn hybrid mutant child
flow her, man?i hardly know her!
>>572351226I don't think it implies it necessarily, but I'll give you that it can clearly be build upon. Ralsei does say on the climbing game that he has never tried being a princess before. Could be just some playful femboy fun, or something deeper.
>>572351574No flavor text in the house. Kris is fucking out of it by this point, this is just (You).
>>572351574it's always been about trying to lift susie up. lil nigga is devious but also a true friend
>>572351545The last time I felt like how the Flowery fight made me feel was Asriel Undertale and the one before that was the Wonderful 101 finale
>>572348129grill = girlThis implies that between Toriel and whatever Shifters/Sliders thing he had going on, he won't choose Toriel.It us likely UT!Sans' greatest regret.
>>572351607I don't think Toby actually gives a shit so there's a 0% chance that's why.
>>572351552>prince>girl>cage with human parts (or just a human) are they trying to fulfill the prophecy prematurely by sacrificing 3 people who just about match the description in the bunker?
>>572351562>KRIS>KRIS I DONT CARE IF YOURE WORKING WITH THE KNIGHT OR NOT>BUT IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE YOU WILL STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM THAT GUY
>>572351587>"they"Opinion invalidated, rest in piss.
>>572348129grilby
>>572351472>tricky Tony validating my agenda to spread Kris sex in /utg/Bless
>>572351545There is nothing more pure and noble than fighting for your friends.
>>572351761>defeated by pronouns used in-gamelol
>>572351681nah, there's a moment where kris genuinely laughs at susie without any input from (You). they are catatonic til then tho
>>572351663Me as a fat unloved balding 30 year old man every time I see a cute anime girl
>>572351472>Friends off the college>Don't have the grades>Susie is doomed to become Burgerpantsgrim
>>572351701Ralsei: Make way for my arival worms!
>>572351747That's 100% what the conspiracy is about, yes. It's some Evangelion "complete instrumentality/the roaring but the way we want it" bullshit almost for sure.
>>572351604cant reach the shelfto put the food in his hand
>>572351656a dark fountain is still opened in the flower shop by the knight and asgore kidnapped, even if none of the Fuck Gang were there to see it
just finished it (started yesterday), struggled much less with the fights than I expected. Secret boss second try, flowery third.Was impressed with it, platformer gameplay was great, bosses were great. Story is still stuck in an awkward spot where I can't tell if it has the depth it hints at and all the schizo theory stuff ends up more interesting than the real thing. The ending (has to be noelle's thing too, thanks for walking me home) was kino. Considering becoming gay for Ralsei out of convenience.
>>572351782Cute
>>572351816You mean pronouns exclusively used in a title shared by two people (see >>572350989)? Yeah sure.
>>572351829Deltarune 2 spinoff where krusie end up minimum wage workers
>>572351747probably not, cops aren't people
>>572351782>the earthbound npc is an orange mouseTOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>572350859there are a vocal minority of trans people who believe that they are the main characters of Real Life and twist everything they see to support that
The flowers in chapter 5 is the closest video games have gotten to plautistic representation.
>>572351545NO GREATER LOVE
>>572351860green would do that
>>572351819I cant tell whats more plausibleKris actually feeling the slightest tinge of joy before the end from their new friendOr kris just pretending to have a bit of fun for susie's sake so that shed feel better and less guilty about whatll come nextI cant believe people still think Kris is le pure evil when they try (emphasis on try) to prevent noelle from drowning and clearly care about their family and friendsTheyre just severely mentally FUCKED and whatever promise they made to dess/carol takes advantage of that
pippins died
i'm so glad i'm a cis heterosexual so i don't go insane over pronouns by writing 10 page long paragraphs to convince likeminded retards to follow my autistic mental gymnastics headcanon
trans ralsei was actually foreshadowed in chapter 4
what would you do if you found a recently-drowned noelle? like her body wasn't even pruney yet.
>>572351893TEN NOUNS OR TWENTYFILTER'DMAN
>>572351226I don't buy this point of view for RalseiIt feels contrived to that he's only male to fit the Prophecy and that specifically gives him angst because it means he's repressing his own identityHe says in one of the dialogue options something in the lines of "I guess the only difference is how you present yourself" which means, if he felt like being a Princess, nothing would really change about fate. And it shouldn't, because it's kinda silly that the almighty Prophecy can be broken by a gender transitionAnyway, I fundamentally dislike trans Ralsei because it feels like the lamest approach to his identity issues and pushes aside more interesting questions about his status as non existant, being a copy of Asriel, and servitude to push a point that's just not that interesting. It's the kind of scenario that only serves the people who want it to happen.I'd be tremendously disappointed because I cannot see a world where trans Ralsei is a cool synthesis of his character arcI'd be even down for non binary Ralsei if he's meant to be Kris' soul or whatever because that would have a much grander meaning to who he is
I am not attached to Ralsei enough to care whether they're trans or not
Speaking of, Flowery points out that your "companionship" is not the same as the friendship between the flowers and really tries to hammer the point that you can't call what Kris, Susie and Ralsei has as actual friendship. It kind of hit me in the gut that none of the characters are interacting with Kris, they're interacting with minimal text boxes that I get to interact with. I mean I obviously don't think they're my friends but it's weird to have it pointed out that these are just my party. Honestly there's so much good writing in this chapter, I've played it three times now and am still noticing stuff.
>>572352096not very woke of mr fox to suggest transitioning is "something much worse"
What is onion-san endgame in the weird route?
>>572352110as a monster, Noelle's body would collapse into dust the moment she died
>>572352215they were used up earlier
>>572352215nigga she dead and eatenalthough if she's still around after that it would be very kino
>>572351472>just like noelle and everyone elseWhat do you think every classmate (except Susie) is studying?
>Kris outright refusing to narrate in weird route Does this imply they tolerate us enough in normal route to narrate stuff?
>>572352135I didn't say he was repressing anything, anon. That's you projecting your own closet shit you've got in your head. Ralsei is defined from the ground up by the prophecy and can't see a way to exist without matching it beat for beat, so he's a guy and maybe he'll step into the The Girl role by the end of the game as a misdirect. If this came about a chapter ago I'd be more sure about it, but admittedly it'll be hard to fit that kind of arc in Chapter 6.
Flower man is definitely up there but Third Sanctuary is still one of the best video game songs (I mean maybe even songs) I've ever heard. The song makes me weep, I can feel the soul seeping out of it.
>>572352018>I cant believe people still think Kris is le pure evil You just have to ignore them, tons of people especially on twitter are huge midwits who are assuming that because Undertale cordoned off both story routes into "pure good" and "pure evil" with no room for moral debate that it must mean Deltarune is doing the same thing, when in fact to anyone with a brain the story is obviously a lot more morally nuanced than that on both routes.
>>572352251i just realized onionsan couldn't have been eaten...HE'S SAFE
Chapter 6 will give us chaser Rouxls Kaard. Trust the plan.
>>572352310narrating is an unconscious response but weird route has broken them so thoroughly they can't even do that
What is this foreshadowing?
>Suselle is intentionally hollow because it's forced by the prophecy>Kris and Noelle's relationship is revealed to be the core of the entire storyToo based for Toby but I want to believe.
>>572352215Onion-san is the exclusive chapter 7 octopus secret boss Weird Beard Gaster and his crew (including YOU!) fight while sailing the Sea of the Depths
>Guys I chopped of my pingus the prophecy is no morewtf? is that easy? BRAVO TOBY!
>normal npc was upstairs in the library next to the book about monster funerals in chapter 4 purely to learn how best to keep onion san within an inch of his life to harvest meat from himGrim as fuck, we're going to find a barely alive chopped up onionsan
>>572352310I feel like the empty textboxes is just them being nearly catatonic and hopelessTheyre practically certain their plan will fail nowThey just want to stay in bed and never wake up
should i read homestuck
>>572352356He's being farmed for parts anon. Takoyaki and squid ink pasta for everyone in the shelter
>>572352215free snacks at gaster's birthday party
>>572352135NTA, but for me the worst thing about all this is that the supposed "trans" moments in Chapter 5 are the lamest shit possible. To compare, Mettaton is probably my favorite Undertale character, and Mew Mew from the very same Chapter 5 was pretty cool while also clearly being a trans allegory. Both those characters have issues and angst about their situation, but they kick ass regardless. Meanwhile, if Ralsei's "princess" moments are viewed through the trans theory, it just looks like he's bullied into transitioning, and it actually is very creepy.
>>572352508>>572352448no... NO!!!
>>572352380Asriel is going to bring home a yoshi boyfriend
>>572352503Absolutely not. It's not good in the slightest.
>>572352503If you are homosexual.
>>572352448it's so over
Was Asriel having a USB microphone at his computer desk supposed to imply that that was the real Mike Darkner? Is it foreshadowing something with the rhythm game and fake Mikes in Castle Town? Or is it just a meta gag, like Toby originally planned to use the microphone feature in the rhythm minigame and scrapped it in development?
>>572352549>>572352558but toby loves it?
Tricky Tony is using the non-binary brainrot to hide the fact that there are multiple Ralseis in plain sight
>>572352508forget Berdly, NormalNPC is the one that deserves to become frozen chicken
>>572352380if only there was a girl that uses magic...
First he came for the onions. Now he comes for blooky.
>>572352630says alot don't it
>>572352630brother, toby is retarded as evidenced by this fever nightmare he charged 20 bucks for. you guys didnt pay for it, right? guys...
>>572352503you gotta start with Humanimals and Team Special Olympics
>>572352659look at this dumbass eating her dumbass toast
I hate how fucking contrived all the plot points in this game are.Everything is just way too convenient.
>>572352630You genuinely had to be there at the time. It was much more about the process of it releasing than it was the actual content. You're getting the best of its humor filtered through Toby so don't worry about it.
>>572352528where was the princess scene? i didnt see it.i liked mew mew too, helps shes cute.
>>572348160>I don't know what the Toriel one implies; she adopts a new kid...?Alternate timeline where the vessel is the protagonist and replaces Kris as Toriel's adopted human child
>>572352721Such as?
MY VAGUEPOSTING KING
>>572348160>she adopts a new kidNo. "Kris" isn't actually Kris.
>>572352503No, read Jailbreak and Problem Sleuth though. They'll give you a glimpse into Toby's foundational humor without making you want to die.
>>572352717
>>572352750Flowery just mockingly calls Ralsei princess. Yes, that's it. The logic is that tortured.
>>572352659A girl, who uses fire magic... replacing a yoshi-like character...
>>572352721>too convenientOR everything's being pulled by strings from behind the scenes...a man can cope, ok?
>>572352135NTA but Darkner genders to me just feel like window dressing because they're not "real" and don't have real sex characteristics. Ralsei could easily switch to a girl and back to a boy based on vibes, it wouldn't be this major life-changing decision that determines his future.Which I think is supposed to get across the idea that Ralsei could always be whatever he wanted to be and doesn't realize the scope of choice he has. By extension, he could always defy the prophecy whenever he wants to but doesn't realize it.
>>572352503Yes, and if not watch the 'let's read homestuck' youtube audio book, and if not listen to the ost.
>>572352707Those dreams and 20 bucks were promised to Toby three thousand years ago, chuddie.
>>572352858fuck!! it's time to drown!!!!
>>572352891i cant believe a marketing blurb for ch3 merch foreshadowed the main gameplay gimmick of ch5
>>572352817>Now that Asgore has finally has seen the Dark Fountain and has even had some character growth maybe we might get som- OH SHIT ITS THE PLOT ENFORCEMENT KNIGHT OH FUCK
>>572352528I don't think anyone with a modicum of literacy thinks Ralsei is a trans allegory to be honest. Like I'm woke and don't think it's anything like that. He is genderfluid and doesn't stick to one role in particular but I just don't see it as one of his main narrative devices.
>>572352891good thing ralsei doesn't use fire magic and doesn't want t-...
>>572352982imagine the smell...
>>572352928>Pretending leftists are pro IsraelKill yourself chud
>>572352982>maddie bulge>null null cutiewhat did anon mean by this
>>572352997I'm still waiting for Susie to actually chop down a tree.
>>572353142if you knock down all the dark candy on the tree you encounter right after getting the feather it cuts down the tree
>>572352750By "princess" moments I collectively mean all the stuff that was put in as vague pandering to that theory. The only one that's more or less fine is when Ralsei appears at the end of the Castle Town climbing game as a princess for Kris. That one is actually cute, and it's made clear that Ralsei doesn't care if he's a prince or a princess. But later on there is a bunch of moments with Flowery where he calls Ralsei "princess", shoves him in the closet, etc., which apparently are supposed to hint at transness without being too explicit. But if you do view it like that, it just looks as if Flowery's some kind of groomer getting off on deciding a kid's indentity, and it ruins his character completely.
>>572353142>he doesn't knowFake fan.
>>572353115literally a toyno nipples either
>>572353106toby is a leftist jew
>>572352947good luck with that
Anyone have good predictions for what's going to happen and how it all ends?
I want Ralsei to be trans because then chuds will finally leave the fandom for good right?
>>572352910Not only this, anon. The equipment restrictions are all Ralsei implementaing the prophecy in your menu, but one day he'll let go of all that bullshit and pick up the sword or the axe and he'll wear scarves as armor like you're supposed to
>>572353213>implying alphys cheaped out on the model
>ghh im gonna drown!>what>I'M SCHIZSING?INSERT CHAPTER 7 SIDE B
>>572353179i guess that fits. she is no true lumberjack until she puts the axe to the wood, however.
>>572353307familiar with omega catti? you'll soon be...
>>572353189Yeah also the fact that Flowery knows what Ralsei actually is as opposed to what he's presenting which, if you are running along the lines of trans allegory, Flowery is basically telling him YWNBAH which isn't very woke of him. It just doesn't hold up.
hey guys!
wtf ralsei man give me some fake stats im struggling here
>aw cool mom and soos dark world adventur- OH NOPE SHES ASLEEP OK WERE DOING ONE OF THOSE
>>572353310Same, I want the game to have the most dogshit ending possible to own the chuds!!!
>>572353062Genderfluid is something I can totally buy for the fluffy boy, fits his supernatural essence. I kind of can't even picture him with actual primary sexual characteristics, he probably replicates by holding hands really hard or something.
>>572353310No. But fem Kris will cause all leftists to leave.
>>572353307i'm going to play chapter six. i'm going to stand up and yell kino. i'm going to play chapter seven. i'm going to stand up and yell kino. i'll play the whole game again. i'll stand up and yell kino. i'll play the whole weird route. i'll stand up and yell kino. i'll never give toby 20 bucks for this vagueposting faggot trash
>>572353462>Salted Earth Route
I did the mewmew fight again and it felt waaay easier. I don't remember there being little targets for where the bombs were gonna land so did those get patched in recently?
>>572353437my king
>>572351587>ralsei has never had freedom of choice, from the moment they were bornDisagree, Ralsei has just as much of a choice in matters as Susie and Kris but I think the point is that Ralsei knows (because Kris knows) that as bad as things are that they are many MANY worse outcomes that they're all trying to avoid. Ralsei says it himself, he COULD let loose, he COULD not care but then "everything falls apart." Ralsei prays for salvation, he prays that he and his friends are protected and walking the correct path after all. We don't even know to whom, Ralsei may not even know but he prays nonetheless. Faith is often characterized in trusting and believing that which can never truly know and it's a part of the human condition
>>572353438He's already doing that!
Ralsei is fantasy creation of Asriel or Kris (probably Kris, his idealized version that looks like a Dreemur with the red horns), similar to Asriel version of himself at the end of Undertale he has 999 in every stat and that's what Flowery was calling him out on.We know Kris created fantasy characters with both Noelle and his brother, and Ralsei keeps asking permission and validation from Kris (his creator) to have individuality (that are misdirected as romantic moments). What relation does all of this with the prophecy? I do not know, any ideas?
>>572353047>Asgore yoinked out of the plot>Rudy yoinked out of the plot for the knight reveal>Suselle rushed through just so it can break apart>every other Lightner irrelevant or doesn't even bother to show upbravo toby
>>572353310mad mew mew the canonical transgender character that has existed for 8 years becoming a super boss in this chapter didnt make them leave, nothing will, they will just invent a coping mechanism like they always do like saying ralsei is actually a genderless object so its not really being trans
>>572353495>giving the millionaire more moneyif it was his first game and he was struggling financially maybe, he should be pleased im playing and enjoying his game
>>572353047Kris is working with Carol/The Knight as we saw in previous chapters, and trying to remove any leads to the shelter. He slashed the tires to Toriel's car so the police would come to his house then created a fountain to have Undyne removed from the equation by getting swooped up by the knight. Asgore was also another lead, so he created a dark world in the flower shop to hold Asgore down long enough for the knight to come take him and have him removed from the equation.
so am i having a media literacy moment or do asgore's notes in chapter 5 confirm that the knight was around prior to dess going missing
>>572352424>>572352419Krisincels lost
HI SUSTINGUS WELCOME TO FLOWUR TO FLOWURTODAY'S GUEST IS DOCTOR ASPERGOR DREEMGUS, NAME OF FLOWER SHOP FLOUR CRINGE, CHECK IT OUT
>>572353394cute boy>>572353438stop holding back kris>>572353454>can't wait for Toriel reaction to ralsei>can't wait for Asgore reaction to ralseifeel for it again
>>572353631Now comes the part were you reveal you spend money on gacha games
we need to start revoking the chud licenses for anyone who played all the way to the end of deltarune chapter 5. just admit your worldview is retarded and you like being edgy and getting into arguments at this point. Yes, we all know the nazis looked cool. Grow up.
>>572353434Yeah, pretty much. It's really weird how these people latched onto the bully character as some kind of benevolent closet opener.
>>572352858
>>572353701NTR chads won
>>572353625>they will just invent a coping mechanism like they always do like saying ralsei is actually a genderless object so its not really being transThis is 100% going to happen if Ralsei ends up transitioning, every single thread too
>>572353697The event in which Dess goes missing is also the birth/first apperance of the Knight.This means either Dess & co. were the actual Delta Warriors (since the Knight is prophecized to appear alongside them) or someone becoming the Knight in the '97 incident is what kicks off the prophecy.
>>572353770the last game i spent money on was the factorio dlc so i could play online, sorry
>>572353697with how solid Noelle+Kris knight theory is now, the knight is a time travelling entity, or similarly an entity created from noelle and kris being and sent to the past a la homestuck, but it would be troublesome if homestuck actually becomes required reading to understand deltarune time travelling
>>572353551more like scorched earth>>572353592>$36>it's $32 in gameWhy does he keep lying?
>>572353789>you like being edgy and getting into arguments at this point.this is the entire point of /v/ so i dont get why they dont just stay there
>>572353701>Kris is completely and entirely for (Me) because they literally need (Me) to live otherwise they rot and dieWe won hard thoughever?
>>572353943>noelle and kris boundary broke so hard in the future they came back as the knight>like in the film terminator or something>now you must read all of homsetuckandrew...
>>572353910>Factorio STILL not on saleNext month, next month I'll get it...
>>572353961excuse me luv
>>572352721>anon, i'm happy with these sweet moments kris, susie and this kinda jokey onion guy>yeah this lake stuff is fucking cool. i'm glad i found this stuff and i can't wait to see where the investi>OH SHIT RANDOMNPC PLOT DEVICE GASTER GANG GANG LOL HORRO MASCOT TIME YEEEEEEE
>>572353943Guys, what are the best flower items?
WAS THAT THE KNIGHT OF '97??
>>572353789I don't have a save file that isn't the weird route, can I still be a chuddie? plz
>>572353701They don't know what they're missing out on. Once i get my vessel back, i'll steal their emotional comfort human away from them.
>>572349630I thought it was Dess before but Noelle's reaction to giving away Tenna makes me think it's Noelle
>>572353701>>572353835Love trumps hate, bigots lost bigly
>>572354115We don't know what's in Chapter 6 and 7, but Specs and Apron are good for everything. The rest are harder because we don't know if pacifying will be important
>>572354105
>>572354115apron, glasses, and boxing glove
how has there not been an evil fun gang parallel yetwho's going to be in it?
>>572353943I figured if time loop theory was correct it would be something more akin to Stranger of Paradise, no?
>>572354060Ok but you should buy Deltarune so you make the player count in steamcharts bigger and I feel good because big number on my favorite thing.
Why did it get so samefaggy in here all of the sudden
I get the feeling that there's going to be a marriage in the dark world between Noelle and Susie and it's going to cause Snowgrave to rear it's ugly head in one way or another. I don't know if it will be Ralsei setting the world ablaze that forces them to use it or the other way round where Noelle has frozen everything over and Ralsei is required to use his fire but, knowing what's been said about burning flowerbeds, I'm going to guess that Ralsei is going to lose his shit for some reason.I think the weird route will essentially be a sequence break to access snowgrave earlier than chapter 6/7 and that ultimately the ending will be the same.Am I a schizo or does this sound reasonable?
>>572353943You will have to watch Deltarune stage play for the true ending.
>>572353962pete n vb theme but the freedom leitmotif is replaced with FLOWER MAN FLOWERMAN WITH HIS HEART IN THE SAND
>>572354146Imagine the sex
>>572353943If they are time traveling it'll just use Deltarune mechanics and not Homestuck mechanics.Undertale Flowey could already pseudo time travel because of Human+Monster soul merge.Kris+Noelle soul merge + Shadow/pure crystal fuckery could be something or they use meta UI mechanics which were even alluded to in the Normal route.
>>572354291basically a lot of words to say:>"STAHP LIKING WHAT I LIKE"
Our “Kris” is not Kris.The Knight is an amalgam of the real Kris and Dess.
>>572354115(in order of goodness)apronglassesyellow hat
>>572353697Susie thinks so, but Ralsei thinks the knight is only supposed to show up when the heroes do. Whatever happened “that day” could mean the knight showing before they were supposed to.
Post chapter 2 isn't canon anyway
>>572354274obviously berdly + jockington + catti
I don't remember what my vessel looks like anymore...
>>572354183>Love trumps hateso do I!
>>572354291the usual suspects with their gay discord circlejerkjust ignore them
>>572354453I've done nothing but masturbate to Mad Mew Mew fanart since I beat her bossfight, do I have a problem?
wtf i hate susie now
>>572351587I really sympathized with Ralsei for most of the chapter. It was a necessary kind of challenge for him, but it's clear it was also a painful one. May sound a little stupid, but it kind of reminds me of autistic kids being teased for always doing things in patterns.
>>572354440you niggers are starting to sound like pokemon genwunners, just admit your theories weren't right and move on
>>572354372stop liking a series that is directly opposed to your bigoted worldview
*maxes out my vessels boob and butt sliders*
>>572354372A sad, 30 year old bald man made this post since those are the only people who would ever use the word "staph" for shitposting reasons and not for medical reasons
>>572354392Do you think that there was a different loop/prophecy fulfillment before Kris was able to extract his soul? I'm certain Ralsei has gone through this loop thousands of times already.
>>572353047Dude they were talking and worried about the knight showing up the whole chapter. Get real
>>572346243She’s so fucking cute oh my god I love this
>>572354578based
>>572354514which posters are in the discord?
>Hey Ralsei I didn't know how to take care of the flowers without Asgore but Noelle taught me how to press flowers and and>cut to Ralsei with the most horrified expression known to man on his face with a wide flowery in the background saying 'Kept you weighting, huh?'
>>572354557WOAH, you can't use that word!
>>572351587Ralsei is right thoughthe whole thing is, and always will be, on railshard thing for him to come to terms with, wonder how metafictional it'll get. I think the chapter 1 "none of your choices matter" stuff was more revealing than it now seems, after later chapters kind of overshadowed it.
>>572354578why didn't gaster implement this option? is he redacted?
>>572354289>Ok but you should buy DeltaruneAlready brought.
>>572354620I don’t think loop theory works, especially not if the heroes of the prophecy don’t change and Ralsei has his memories. In Chapter 5 it was revealed that Ralsei doesn’t actually know everything, even about the major players in the prophecy like the Knight.
>>572354768what are you gonna do about it... GENWUNNER??
>>572354372i feel bad for the upbringing you had that turned you into this
What was Jevil's broken dream?
why were there two yellow flowers and where is the red flower?
>>572354626Literally at the very last second before they close the fountain?15 seconds a too late and Asgore, Kris, and Susie would've returned to the light world with Rupert McKnighterson right there with his fucking pants down red-handed.
>>572354938You’re retardedIt’s terminal
>>572354739
rightwingers go to /v/leftists go to /utg/centrists kill themselvesdeal or no deal?
>>572354938i ated the red flower sorry
>>572354941the knight knows beforehand exactly what time it has to be there
>>572352982well did you imagine it, anon?
ALSO HOW THE FUCK DID THE ROARING KNIGHT MAKE A SECOND SEPARATE FOUNTAIN IN THE DARK WORLD WITHOUT SUMMONING A TITAN
>>572354820>gave gaben 20 clams for a rental licensefool and their money yadda yadda
>>572354938Ermmm flowery was GOLDEN not yellow
>>572354938
>>572355067>t.
>>572354941Kris and the knight are working together, it definitely wasn't a last minute convenience. Everything was planned.
>>572355021I'm in both. What does that make me?
>>572354938Kris represents red
>>572355103They didn'tthey made a fountain in the flowership literally as the fountain Kris made disappeared
>>572354938you have to grind up the aqua and purple flower to make red AGP THEORY CONFIRMED OH MY ANGEL
>>572355231KWNBAF though
NIGGA HEIL GASTER
I've gotten more emotionally attached to these characters as time goes on. In different chapter eras I wouldn't have cared that much but now the thought of them not having a happy ending makes me feel a bit queasy. I'm not normally a very emotional person so these feelings are quite novel and unpleasant.
>>572346670Low
>>572355103good timing or some shit idk
>>572355327What is this referencing why do you keep saying this
>>572355002answer the question
kris at the end of chapter 7 after we get the vessel and give his SOUL and freedom back during a normal/good route:>you're a hero... and you have to leave the vessel with our own SOUL:>pic relatedBRAVO TOBY FUCKS!!!
>>572355021I'm a lost SOUL navigating across time and space, between /v/, /vg/, /vrpg/.And mostly /trash/, because I'm free to visit anytime.
>>572355393kanye said it during the last presidential address
>>572354453What a great drawing, Could you tell me where you found it or who the artist is?
>>572355375Same here, I was crying like a bitch and the end and I literally can’t remember a game making me feel that way before
>>572355414PLAY UNDERTALE
boob slider? maxbutt slider? max
>>572355375this but replace noelle with ralseii would genuinely cheer if #gastergang got noelleplease toby read this post
My mentally and financially stable wife
>/utg/ is a re-occuring demonstration of the bicycle man puts stick in his spokes meme after every DR releasedonno what else to add to this
>>572354540yeah, the problem is you haven't cum to her ass today
>>572355375Every single one of the Deltateens deserves a big hug.Except Kris who doesn't like big hugs and deserves a small but heartfelt one
>>572355327
>>572354739>bring the pressed flowers into the Dark World>they're all lobotomized zombies now
>>572355202>>572355245Yesit was all plannedwhat a master manipulator the nite isthey even took into account for when kris was t posing in the corner for 12 minutes while a took as shitthis small child and their crippled zombie friend are truly the most wicked of villains
>>572355414the red flower was the secret boss
>>572355582new hack for artists, you just have to draw one of them and you can mirror it and change the coloursgenius
>>572355641ralsei wouldn't do THAT
>>572349489I'm guessing they ended up shipping Sam with The Dark
>>572355647>braindead Flowery still cracking his one-liners, but they're now even more of a word salad
>>572355440>ok, I'm taking ralsei with me btw
>>572355652Get a chance
the look on the knight's face when I leave the game open and running for a week without finishing chapter one (their plan is ruined)
Do you think its possible that a part of why Ralsei hated Flowery is because he knows what happened in Undertale and noticed the similarities to Flowey like us?He was hating on him from the start before he even messed with stats and shit
>>572355859>a Kralsei adventure through the great wasteland beyond HometownI would so read this fanfic.
>>572351330>since it's always asking them permission to have individuality.He's asking YOU for permission, not Kris. His whole thing is sucking up to YOU. He can tell the difference, if he was concerned with Kris's approval then he wouldn't ask while you're around.
>>572355710temmie is a FUARKING GENIUS WHOAAA HOLY! is there a chance she would post her mirrored and recolored tits?
The whiteboards are slowly healing
UeueleuleuleueNyonUeueleuleuleueNyonUeueleuleuleueNyon
>>572351604>>572351862FIVE ELEVEN THE MANLET MANTIPTOES ATOP OF A STANDREACHING FOR THE CUPBOARD WHEREIN LAYS A CANFOR THE EVER MISSINGINCHES TALL ON THE MANLET MANCOULD I DO SOMETHING TO LIFT HIS ASSUP TO HEIGHTS LADIES BEGIN TO GLANCESO HE LIFTS THEMANLET MANMANLET MANCAN'T GROW TALL, WIDE HE CANSO HE STANDS A FEW INCHES TOO SMALLFOR THIS RIDEWAY UP HIGH, IN THE SKYJUST LIKE MOST THINGS IN LIFEAIN'T IT NICETO LIVE LIFE JUST LIKE MICEMANLETSNot doing another takehttps://voca.ro/16jXBdq7jcAm
>>572355375To feel love, you also need to experience anxiety. For there is no love if there's no fear of losing it.However unpleasant some moments will be, it will be alright.
why was rudy pretending to be ill but then he's fine and can climb up ladders and shit?seems suspicious...
>>572355710No no noMaddie NEEDS to have smaller boobs and smaller cock than Pink
>>572355941>He was hating on him from the start before he even messed with stats and shitHe shoved ralsei in a closet
>>572355859>MAYYYYBE YOU'LL THINK OF ME, WHEN YOU ARE ALL ALONE, MAYBE THE ONE, WHO IS WAITING FOR YOU, WILL PROVE UNTRUETHEN WHAT WILL YOU DO?
https://voca.ro/1oOzYfP3QZGn
>>572355974I doubt that if Ralsei was supposed to always be talking to the player, he'd be addressing Kris by name, isn't Toby's style to do something like that.
>>572356134uh based?
I'm just not a fan of suselle at all. They barely have any interactions at all with each other compared to Susie with Kris.
mew mew's sweaty pits
>>572351782It's also a callback to Lancer referencing that same Earthbound joke when you put him in your pants hole in chapter 2
the red flower represents kris' prolapsed butthole when futa mewmew is done with them
>>572356270fuck off, chuddie
You can now create a dark fountain inside your room, and exlusively your room. Would you do it?
>>572353701this art pmo so much cause the table is clearly metal, not wooden chris even gets pineapple face as susie calls it, which i actually thought he would irl
>>572356270>They barely have any interactions at all with each other compared to Susie with Kris.Don't worry the next chapters will fix this :)
confess what you posted on this bread before the next bread appears
>>572356295I will miss Moldesster...
>>572356295MORE
>>572352910That's also my interpretation, he has the power to do and be almost anything he'd likeStill doesn't exactly explain why is his "base" form like Asriel though
>>572356169That was funny though
>>572356326not after the incident
>>572356326I absolutely would. I wanna be friends with my MP3 player.
>>572355375The game has honestly moved me in ways that very few games have and has got me to engage with it on more than just a surface level. I don't want to be over dramatic, but the writing in this game is on a whole other level compared to most games and actually uses the medium so well to compliment that writing. Not only am I invested in the characters but the core themes of the game really resonate with me. It's weird to play a game and feel like it kind of gets you.
Passionately arguing about a fictional character's gender or sexuality is the most nothingburger thing you can do. They're not real, you're not debating real world politics. Get over yourselves.
CATTAIL DOWN THE MORNING RAILYARD WHISTLE BLOWSCATTAIL DOWN OUR BOX CAR BOUND FOR NO ONE KNOWSAFTER EVERY HIDDEN SEED OUT FROM ITS COVERING HAS BEEN FREED AND EVERY BOOK HAS BEEN DISCARDED FROMTHE BOOKSHELF…CATTAIL DOWN IN THE FORGETTING OF MYSELF.CATTAIL DOWN SURROUND THE IVY,ITS GONE TO POISON IN MY CHEST..THE DEER BETWEEN THE TOWER AND THE TRACKS SAW RIGHT THROUGH US,SAID YOU DONT KNOW WHERE YOU CAME FROM YOU DONT KNOW WHERE YOURE GOING.YOU THINK YOURE YOU ,YOU DONT KNOW WHO YOU AREYOURE NOT YOU.YOURE EVERYONE ELSE>YOURE EVERYONE ELSEYOURE EVERYONE ELSE>YOURE EVERYONE ELSEYOURE EVERYONE ELSE>YOURE EVERYONE ELSEYOURE EVERYONE ELSE
>>572356326Mmmmmmmno
how the fuck can ralsei heal the enemies to max HP but he won't heal me to max HP fucking traitor
>>572356294the magical girl outfit stained with sweat under her arms.you don't worry about how that works will ball joints
>>572356326>my shinobu oshino figure becomes realLET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>572356423Suffering is funny when framed right, that's comedy for you.
>>572356120Ralsei is suspiciously collecting ladders lately.
>>572356413He doesn't look like Asriel in-universe though. He only looks like Asriel to the player.
>>572352310They complain about you asking them to inspect Asriel's letters and deodorant while they feel like shit, but they still do it (while complaining)
>>572356516He's a balancefag
>>572356516He's literally limiting himself because that's what his role requires him to be. I kind of wonder what specifically he knows that makes him follow those rules though.
i only come here during chapter releases because the fangame and oc autism is an insult to my autism
>>572356326If Ralsei, yes.
>>572356487Can you stop being such a bigot for once jesus christo on a cracker
>>572356180rocket 69 :)
what if the dark fountain somehow got sealed before the knight even showed upthey arrive and they get all pissy because they have to use the dad beating club and the knockout gas like a traditional mobster instead of the overly complicated magic scheme they were runningtoby at least thought of the knights plan fucking up since thats what happens in chapter 4they go in to nab toriel and she isnt there so they just kind of fuck around and try and distract the fun gang with a titan while they escapeso its not nearly as ridiculous but this is a very convoluted evil plan to kidnap people
>>572355858>yet somehow they're more contextually appropriate than beforeGlue!
>>572356487>the most nothingburger thing you can do.I dunno, arguing about who was struggling more in a fight by counting how many sweat drops the artist drew on them seems pretty up their (seen in the one piece general)
>>572356607doesn't someone say he looks like asriel
>>572356624she's>>572356645she'sherselfherhersheher
>>572356656OKHi
>>572353310If Ralsei goes by she/her at the end, Im leaving he/him behind. I signed up for gay goat romance
>>572356717Asgore does
>>572356607He does look like Asriel, Susie thought he does, he himself believes he does, and even Asgore thought so. The thing is once you look a little closer he's not literally a copy. Also, the whole name anagram thing.
>>572356487> debating real world politicsalso a nothing burger. i don't think destiny or hasan or even ben shapiro made a change to the world
I'm not transphobic but I swear there are a certain subset of trans people who want me to be.
ralsei is obviously toriel's abortion toby is practically spelling it out at this point
RALSEI HAS A PENIS AND IN THIS HOUSE RALSEI IS A MAN. END OF STORY.
>>572356790i remember when i thought he was a spider in chapter 1... i didn't even realize the anagram until someone in the thread pointed it out...i'm so SILLY
>>572356326Anon this is called putting on a vr headset and dying of dehydration.
>kisses ralseis pine tree penis
>>572356585Evil goat is gonna set them up in Rudykngiht's way to make him fall, it's his only weakness
>>572356846Get used to it, that's how people become transphobic in the first place
>>572354576>>572354610>>572354878kill trannies
>>572356685>NO EL REPOSTU>uploads it to the internetz
new thread when
>>572356853*Dess' aborted baby
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
>>572356983the funny part is ai could easily be used to edit this and remove the watermarks, so going through all that shit to avoid having it be part of training data is pointless anyhow.
>there are annoying trannies on the internet>this means i am going to obessively rant for years and years about how we need to kill all trans people (especially the nice normal ones who arent annoying on the internet)can someone make it make senseand no im not trans, sorry.
>>572356295>hand between kris' legs GUH
>>572356846I'm trans and can confirm that this is true
how it feels
>>572356939>not powered upwhy do you redacts keep posting off model slop
>>572357090you suppose there are trannies that aren't annoying or disadvanting in one way or another
>>572357070>dess and asgore's aborted baby after they were somehow forced to have sex in a dark worldHOLY FUCKING KINO BRAVO TOBEY
I truly don't understand how chuds could enjoy this game. Everything about it is in opposition to their fucked up world view. Do they just interface with it using the shallowest interpretation possible? Is it just about hype moments and aura for them? Or is it that they don't even play it and are just social media addicts?
>>572357162this is a really good look for noelle
>>572356405https://files.catbox.moe/krmo14.png
>I turned myself into a cube kris. I'm cube ralsei!funniest shit ever
aqua sexo?>[YES]>[NO TIME TO WAIT, YES!]
>>572356790>Susie thought he doesRight before Kris pointed out the obvious differences. It's like saying another white guy looks like Jerma, any 2 people you're not familiar with can look the same especially if you're autistic and face-blind.Asgore says at first he thought Ralsei looked like Asriel but upon closer look, he doesn't. It's just that Ralsei looks like a goat so his appearance gets compared to the only goatpeople.Why his name is an Anagram of Asriel, I don't know. Maybe he's Kris's fursona.
>>572357090This is actually just how tranny derangement syndrome works and it's the pipeline that made Josh Moon crazy>"20% of 2% of the population is annoying and weird">"So I have to obsess about them and freak out and make literally everything about them every day" >"this somehow makes me sane by comparison"
does anyone have the Ja-CUMMING pic
>>572357192i don't understand what you're trying to say, please fix your broken english.do I suppose there are trannies who aren't annoying or who don't deserve to be killed? yes.
>>572357262holy shit this is hot. that's a REALLY good bulge
>>572357262O lordy that's way too good. Actual peak.
Can you get me a hot gamer boyfriend?
You will never be a real mew.
>>572357296I literally cannot talk about a character in this game anymore without certain people inserting their pronouns headcanon anymore so yeah
>>572357398Kris...
>>572357398N...no...
>>572357262Why is she crying?
>>572357454Ralseibro... Mew Mewbro...
>>572356326if my cut man figurine is a party member sure
>>572357486>>572357486>>572357486Hop on
Sustingus
>>572357467you just looked at a RAPED CHILD! what the fuck is wrong with you
>>572356294>>572356545It's not real sweat, it's ectoplasmic ooze from her ghost. Smells like plums[spoiler/]
>>572357454>game had an explicitly trans character>game puts in little hints that a different character may be questioning their gender>"what the fuck why are people talking about pronouns???"did it hurt when your mom dropped you down the stairs as a kid?
>>572351285I'm pretty sure it's talking about Muffet since she can't reappear being a special guest character and not actually Toby's propertay (although I hear rumorings that muffet's creator is in """controversy""" a while back for "drawing their underaged OCs in porn" which is like based???)>>572351545Ch2: "Wow nothings topping this final fight, it was so cool!"Ch3: "Fucking incredible final fight, tops ch2 easily!"Ch4: "Nothing is going to be more epic than this moment holy shit"Ch5: "THIS FUCKING ROCKS NOTHING WILL TOP THIS">>572352528This honestly. I think trans allegory characters are better and far more interesting than just outright doing it even if you'll get flak from people wanting to twist your arm for not going far enough. One thing I've appreciated is that Toby treats his gay characters by not having the actual thing about them being gay in your face even if them being in love is super in your face like with RG01 and RG02 or Yellow and Blue. I don't know how to describe it, it's like them being gay is an afterthought and not at all an important detail whereas most other writers make them being gay the most important detail>>572353961Lmao
>572357220the way nobody is responding to this bait is frying me IJBOL
>>572354451I had an actual dream after playing ch5 that they would have a section where you have to pick your vessel from a group of other vessels and picking wrongly had permanent consequences and I was like "FUUCK I DON"T REMEMBER BUT THIS BITCH LOOKED LIKE"
>>572357287>but upon closer look, he doesn't.Because if you stare too long at a darkner they stop looking like a monster at all, not because his appearance doesn't resemble Asriel.Also, Asriel's own dad saying he looks like him eliminates the possibility of it just being racial face-blindness.
>>572357467Post-nut clarity
Trying to predict Chapter 6 early because I'm bored.>start>brief walking section where you get to check out post-festival shenanigans>you're blocked from going to hospital>go to the school>cutscene starts as soon as you get supply closet in view>noelle runs out of the supply closet and pushes past you>susie tries to chase after her, either just fucking grabs you and drags you along or stops to try and explain the situation before grabbing you>she fucked up by explaining dark worlds to noelle when her dad is in critical condition>run to hospitalOR>get to go to castle town, susie says she's pretty sure noelle is at the hospitaleither way>hospital door opens>dark world fumes pour out>ice-themed hospital dark world>incredibly pretty>made by noelle>you occasionally catch glimpses of noelle and it drags you along deeper and deeper>blah blah blah strong chapter 4 vibes dark world>ralsei keeps acting crazy>you finally get to the end>noelle is there>rudy is there>she knows you're going to seal the fountain because she remembers from her dream>susie tries to heal rudy>doesn't work. obviously>kris susie ralsei fight against noelle>turns out rudy already died while he was in the dark world>piles of rudy's dust>rudy FINALLY fucking talks about what happened to dess before magnanimously accepting that he's fucking dead>roaring knight shows up>flips the fuck out at piles of rudy's dust (GUESS THE ANIMAL)>starts roaring>it looks like you're going to do a 4 player battle for about 10 seconds before someone splits off and goes "I'LL HOLD THEM FROM HERE. YOU EVACUATE EVERYONE TO THE BUNKER!">rudy tells you the final code>chapter ends on bunker door slamming shut
Real talk though how would anyone ever tell the difference between a monster and a darkner? They can both look like any kind of crazy bullshit
>>572358375they check if the profile picture in the textbox is colored or not
>>572358375Darkners are object-based. While Lightners are animal-based. Of course there are times when the line blurred but a general rule of thumb, is that if a cup started talking, it's probably is a Darkner
>>572359676What about Woshua?
