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The secret boss nobody invited edition

Previous secret boss: >>572692497

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

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>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-/utg/ Canvases
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>Current: https://magma.com/d/3B5chWd0Vh
>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

-Pippins Wiki
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my leading theory for chapter number sex is... god damn it what was i about to say
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Seth is so lucky
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>>572708901
Wing D. Gaster
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I LOVE TV!
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the image that DESTROYS maddiefags
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I will never have a cool and dastardly pirate voice like Gaster.
What's the point...
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does Samuel L. Jackson like Deltarune?
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Honest thoughts on seth?
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>>572709163
sex
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Pirate Gaster vs Big Naturals Gaster
Who wins
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Toby is more than experienced enough with fandom culture to know canon romance kills art. He killed Soriel last year and is killing Suselle this moment.
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>>572709121
>calls shadow crystals "black shards"
Image discarded. Play the game.
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>>572709142
>YARRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
>I HATE DARKNERS
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>>572709163
I've loved purple nerd girls ever since my mlp days
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>she forgor
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>>572709163
under developed
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>>572709297
ANON NOE!!! DO NOT!! I REPEAT!! DO NOT MENTION THE FORBIDDEN HORSESHOW!! ANON??!! ANOOOOOONNN!?!?!?
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Mfw some chibi starts running his mouth
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>>572709121
oh nyo~
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>>572709297
You need to [FUCKING] leave.
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>>572709378
tfw you know your bestie is a lieing faggot
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>>572708901
Hooman!
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>>572709393
its fine, I put spoiler text on so no one can read it
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>>572709364
what the actual fuck is toby gonna do with papyrus?
he's already teased seeing him from the start of the game so he HAS to appear unless he really managed to memoryhole him
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>Flowery
Mating press
>Aqua
Knife fight
>Yellow
Watch him fuck Blue while I'm in the cuck chair
>Blue
Watch him fuck Yellow while I'm in the cuck chair
>Green
Mating press
>Seth
Cucking Berdly by reading the first 7 paragraphs from the wikipedia page on astrophysics from memory
>Orange
Naizuri
>Pink
Cowgirl
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Ok but where's grillby?
Did the gaster mafia extinguish him?
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>Raper?
>I hardly know her!
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>>572708879
It might be intentional, Susie's healing spell has also stalled out on improvements.
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>Hey, sweet, no one's in there.
>That means free grape soda... and, uh...
>We could wear their uniforms and pretend to work there?
>And take like, pics of us standing on the salad...
Number fifteen. ICE-E foot lettuce.
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I just realized Flowery is very similar to the main rival of the story I'm writing ffffffuuuuuuckkkkk
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So he lived, the
Flower Man
Flower Man
With his heart,
in the sand...
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>favorite anime?
>opinion on the chapter 5 secret boss?
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>>572709163
mother of my children
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will toby make fun of me for committing to a 100% spare no pacify/sleep run
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>>572709121
I feel like the Pink fight is a statement that kris needs to stop being a bitch and tell Susie how they feel and that the soul nudging them to tell Susie how they feel isn't the fucking problem.
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>>572709659
dragon ball z
loved it
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>>572709659
>anime
lol
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What happened to the jolly smiling Kris from the end of chapter 1?
Why do they act so raped now?
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>>572709659
Miku saved the boss, otherwise it's nit as impactful as gerson
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>>572709645
Lean into it, that's what Toby would do.
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>>572709732
See >>572709561
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>>572709645
Same
In my case he's literally a plant man I can't fucking take it.
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>>572709659
Cromartie High School
Very cool fight and I appreciate the Themes & Such vis a vis Kris and Me and Pink's relationship with Orange but Toby making a joke out of it in the lead-in was really lame
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>>572709665
Holy mew mews
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Post Yellow killing h*mself.
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What is this thing’s name?
>Mew Mew
>Pink
>Maddie…???
Does the ghost have the same name?
Seriously Im confused, I need a scholar
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>>572709804
look at how fucking smug he is with the hat on, this is why he needs to keep it
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>>572709659
>favorite anime
Gurren Lagann
>opinion on the secret boss
She was great. Cute, innovative mechanics, amazing music (I am a huge vocaloid nerd), interesting parallels to Kris and the SOUL... the way she went berserk has worrying implications for the events of the next 2 chapters.
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>>572709659
Getter Robo Armageddon
Fun battle. underwhelming character. Definitely doesn't deserve to be a superboss. The scene with Ralsei and Susie acting self-aware about superbosses is the worst scene in the entire game.
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Will he be the next schizoboss or are we taking a morbid joke too seriously with this guy?
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>>572709732
Their attempts to distance themself from emotionally giving a shit has failed spectacularly and it's no longer funny.

Fake ass sociopath.
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>>572709891
forgot pic fuckk /vg/s cooldown timer
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Ice E is next boss, works for both holiday mansion or hospital
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So will money in the lightworld be useless?
we only needed it for susie's date
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>>572709891
>>572710057
The official name for the Deltarune character is "Pink"
The figure the character is based on is called "Mew Mew"
in Undertale the fusion between a ghost and a Mew Mew Plush was called "Mad Mew mew"
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>>572709891
>mew mew
The character from the anime, and the doll of her brought to life
>pink
The persona assumed by the fused lightner-darkner we meet in Chapter 5
>maddie
Fan name for the soul possessing the Mad Dummy and Mad Mew Mew in Undertale
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>>572710084
You will need to pay for your vessel at chapter 8
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Finally some good weird route shit.
https://x.com/badaqqle/status/2072422640044675512
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>>572709967
I hope Toby doesn't trash away NormalNPC's deal for a cheesy joke in Chapter 6 because this shit is golden
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>>572709732
Seeing everyone you know not notice anything different from your normal self and even preferring it to you is not only mentally taxing but also cause of dissociation
As Noelle said it's like they're watching their life from behind a glass
or at least fave said
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>>572709659
redline
it should've been a miniboss and not wasted on a secret bosss
like why tf do the flowers give you their special items after you defeat a non-flower
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>>572709659
ghost in the shell stand alone complex
i wanna fuck her
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>>572710084
Look man Gaster is trying but attempts to implement a shop in the light world went badly
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>>572709891
Maddy/Maddie is an old nickname for the Mad Dummy from Undertale, when people say that they specifically mean the ghost and her UT counterpart. Mew Mew is the name of the anime character the figure is based on and so it's probably the name of the Darkner too. Pink is the assumed identity of the ghost and the Darkner cooperating in the same body. Mew Mew and Pink are basically interchangeable because the body is the main operator and Maddie is just along for the ride. Pink is her canon name.
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hey guys!
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>>572709659
Space Dandy.
It was a little on the nose for themes and such in regards to both Japan and Kris but I played the switch undertale version of the fight so it was a cool callback to that at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjDsQXACFW0
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>>572709096
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>>572709804
Our boy has been granted the gift of sass
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>>572709163
If Aqua is meant to be Kris' chaos, Seth is their planning and analytical side.
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>>572710202
>Get to the final meta 4th wall breaking boss
>He kills him out of nowhere and takes over the encounter
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The ghost is a nameless ghost, a nobody
Mew Mew is the character the figurine is based off of
Pink is the name the ghost took on while possessing the Mew Mew figurine, it's interchangeably used for just the ghost and the ghost/figurine gestalt but I think it's meant to be specifically the ghost, it's all very clopen

In Undertale there's Mad Dummy who is a nameless ghost who took over a dummy, then went on to possess a Mew Mew doll thus becoming Mad Mew Mew which so her name is often shortened to Maddie (although in the Alarm Clock dialogue she's just called Mew Mew) but that's an parallel dimension version so calling Deltarune Ghost In A Mew Mew "Maddie" is like drawing Undertale Undyne without an eyepatch
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>>572710221
They consider Pink an honorary flower, didn't you see her diner scene?
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sex with kris is not enough, i want to be holding their hand while we walk through hometown, i want to get a pizza and sit on the roof of the school together, watching the sunset. i want to take them away from that stupid cult town and show them the world, i want them to see it all with me, and i want to see a sense of wonder return to their eyes as they slowly forget the town that made them so miserable to begin with. i love you, kris dreemur.
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>>572710329
>Undertale Undyne without an eyepatch
genocide run and pacifist credits?
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>>572709659
Souboutei is my favorite manga and I was really really happy with the boss fight for a thousand reasons some which would derail the thread so I will refrain but everything about it is pure perfection, mechanically It's my second favorite after ERAM's which I doubt will ever be beaten.
>>572709798
>>572710271
>Cromartie High School
>Space Dandy.
Really great taste both of you.
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Cyan soul mode concept:
>Slashing mode, the counterpart to green's blocking mode
>After a timer, the entire battle box is hit with an attack
>To escape, connect the dots. labeled on the screen to slice open the battle box and evade the oncoming attack
>It's exactly like what the Knight does - because the Knight has Kris's original Cyan Soul.
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>>572709659
>Favourite Anime
Horimiya (GIVE ME SEASON 3 GODAMMIT!)
>Opinions on Chapter 5 Secret Boss
Every second I loved her even more. Fuck Susie for screwing Kris out of a relationship with her.
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>>572710373
He is hardly a person to fuck to begin with. You would get more mileage out of blook and they are a ghost
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>>572709659
Concrete Revolutio
I wish the fight was a little longer, but it was very fun. I like the character and hope to see more of her in future chapters.
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Deltarune but Noelle and her family are titans instead of monsters
What happens?
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https://poal.me/qd1gl3
https://poal.me/qd1gl3
https://poal.me/qd1gl3
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>>572709486
Nothing
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>>572710551
the only six animes that exist in the world
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>>572710364
yeah and that's retarded. 20+ year old flowers who have insane meta knowledge and are a callback to undertale through the souls and omega flowey somehow equate to a joke miniboss that is only slightly above so sorry

all 4 other secret bosses have had much deeper connections to the storyline thus far
see >>572709121
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>>572710527
Weird route uses Susie instead of Noelle becomes way more based as a result
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>>572709659
his and her circumstances or elusive samurai (too hard to pick one desu)
hard fight, i like that she parallels kris, otherwise she's whatever. her status as fotm is annoying me though can't wait for that to be over
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>>572709659
Azumanga Daioh. It was alright. It'll retroactively get better or worse with chap six releases
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>>572710612
you can add a new answer if you want
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>>572710612
You can add new answers...
Please add your favorite!
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>>572709096
>>572710272
Deltarune Piece.
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>>572710308
He's a Gaster Follower. He's backing Gaster up in the final encounter
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>>572709659
NGE
Abysmal dogshit
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>>572710213
>The Susie dialog
Fuck Toby. Both for Kris's and Susie's. Both are not okay.
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this is flowery
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>>572710274
>Aww look at this cute RAT doesn't the rat want cheese? You love cheese don't you, little squeak squeak squeak *does ratface in from of Orange*
>You will never be a human Flowery you're just pretending to be something you're not
>You will never be a human Susie because you have a tail (affectionate)
>Mew Mew you need to listen to your body it won't just submit to your delusions
Fascinating how dropping the false toxic positivity makes the mask slip off.
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>>572710431
Space Dandy was anime in rare form, made me feel smarter for being able to understand any of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7InaXqf7W4
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>>572709659
Toradora
Le epic reference was a waste of a boss.
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>>572710737
Did any of you watch the new Trigun? It wasn't that bad
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>>572710751
Based Route
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Fave just added honey to green tea and fave had to add it to their list of reasons to keep living
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Did you guys run out of stuff to discuss with the new chapter why you guys talking about anime
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>>572710662
Why is she included in the Gaster gang now, what the fuck even is this design anyways...
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>>572710920
It's natural to discuss Japanese animation in a general centered on a Japanese role-playing game.
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So, Quick Question.
What is Artemisia? It's Ralsei's class before he picks up Dark Thorn
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I love fish
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>>572710808
New trigun was awful, they didn't even get the arm reveal right
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>>572710970
this game was made by a little white boy from new hampshire
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>>572710920
I just wanted to see if other anime fans like Pink or not
Seems like most of them do
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>>572711032
game was made by a weeb for weebs
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>>572711032
Look at the credits, honey. Little white boys from New Hampshire are Japanese now.
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>>572710951
Gaster needs to get his hands off her she's MINE
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>>572710982
Wormwood. It's a symbol for divine judgment.
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>>572710982
A plant I think
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>>572709659
Higurashi
I loved it. The boss herself was fun(if easy), the shop scene we first meet her in was emotionally evocative, and the diner scenes were funny.
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>>572710982
It's used to treat malaria. Also used to be used to treat women's ailments.
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>>572710551
/utg/ - ghost in the shell stand alone complex apparently
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Deltarune theorists will say some shit like "nahhh if you believe Rudy might be exagerating his illness or lying a bit while having piles of suspicious dialogue on his name you're making too many assumptions off the material given to ya" while seeing no problem whatsoever with time travelling teenage amalgamates or Dess being stuck deep inside Gaster's top secret bunker lab being injected with liquid hate 24/7 to keep her form as the Knight and doing it for uhhh [headcanon of her personality]
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>>572710808
Somehow changing his revolver to be be a .22 bothered me more than it should have. I only got a couple episodes into the new one but thought the original was a classic.
I liked Desert Punk's more pragmatic take on violence and the things humans do to each other for greed and survival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZACTNAkKfI
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>>572710982
It's a bitter plant used in medicine and cooking. I assume the idea is that Ralsei is reserved but resourseful and also a bit jaded by the time Ch5 rolls around, so he's kind of like that plant.
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>>572711135
>(if easy)
kiddo...
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>>572710982
It's a biblical thing.
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>>572710982
>“The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water—the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”
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>>572710982
>>572711137
>Also used to be used to treat women's ailments.
>ralsei is taking care of susie in the dark world
interesting
>>
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>>572711183
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>Normal route either makes you suffer though all the date shit or shows you a bunch of yearning from Noelle towards Kris depending on choices
>Weird route shows a bunch of cute Susie and Kris moments walking around the festival like the flower crown and Susie shaking the ferris wheel like you do to Noelle in the normal route
I dislike Toby greatly.
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>>572710920
If you didn't watch all of Toby's favorite anime your save is bricked.
If you don't know which anime is his favorite your taste is bricked too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khK_afMwAdA
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Bratfession
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>>572710615
Pink is a double callback to Undertale and the Mad Dummy half is one of the earliest Undertale characters conceptualized because Toby planned for a character that reacts to your choices in the tutorial from early in development. Her Deltarune appearance was likely planned since before Undertale's Switch port. She continues the escalation of each shadow crystal boss being closer and closer to being a Lightner. Her whole fight is a parallel to the relationship between Kris and the player which is one of the main focuses of the game as a whole. It also ties into the chapter's theme of love, specifically paralleling how Kris sabotages their relationships (both romantic and platonic) because they don't like themself and how they struggle with feeling any control over their identity. While Kris is the main focus, Susie and Ralsei struggle with similar things and these are generally important themes for the game. It's not just about the grandoise heroic narrative, it's also a game about psychological and interpersonal issues.
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>>572711451
It's on purpose. Has to be. He wants us to suffer before the grand payoff.
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>>572711381
these are really cool. i saw one that got flowery's name right but he was a big dude in a colorful flower coat
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>>572711183
dess knight i get but the amalgam knight is just the reheated remains of dess knight turned into a retarded fnaf theory
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>>572710982
literally tow click away dude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_(plant)
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>>572711183
What if Rudy is sick because part of his SOUL is missing?
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>>572711438
Yeah...
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kris is so lucky
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Me otr
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>>572711560
>turned into a retarded fnaf theory
Stfu
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FUCKKKKKK this goes HARD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OHoBJUSOE
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>>572711032
Tobi Kitsune is a full-blooded nipponjin
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>>572709121
>>572709707
Ralsei also tells Pink, a Lightner, that she needs to consider the feelings of the darkner he's possesing, after we make him decorate his room and value his well-being more. Also Pink has an absurd amount of setup across several chapters, a really hopeful payoff, and one of the best shop screens. I will contest Pink is a great schizoboss in almost every regard except novelty. Fuck it.

>>572710551
>Someone voted for Getter Robo Armageddon
I added another 90s OVA but BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED I'm gonna go listen to Heats now.
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>>572711538
>Looks down to not see it
>Looks away from Susie when she looks at him
I don't like that she dipped right after this
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>>572711451
You guys are talking as if normal route doesn't have cute moments with Susie or something. The moment we go to the lake, it stops being about Susie with Kris in both routes.
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>>572708901
Animal Gang.
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>>572711675
its true and we all know it
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You love me
Do you love me?
You wanna die
You really wanna see us laughin' at your body
Floating down the river, baby, you're pathetic
You are God, you are God, you are God
You are God, you are God, you are God
You are God
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are you a walking buddy?
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The fact Lancer never became a re-ocurring character is fucking criminal
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What does jarona mean?
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>>572711494
his favorite anime is joshiraku
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>>572711183
The issue isn't that Rudy Knight makes too many assumptions, it's that it would be really boring and I want the game to be interesting. Kriselle Knight is a little too far in the other direction though.
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>>572711847
It's a child molester reference only 90s kids would get.
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>>572711819
he is fat and stupid
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>>572711815
Yes. This actually overrides the weird route description.
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>>572711815
>Kris is even dog walked by Starwalker
Is there anyone who won't top Kris?
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>>572711819
Lancer seemed like he was going to be important but Toby suddenly lost interest and forgot about him, or was unable to think of anything for him to do moving forward
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yuri is safe horny
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>>572712005
that would be hetshit, actually
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>>572710175
>nonbinary pin
They may be drawing porn of minors but at least they're woke about it
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thing i'm not too into but seems widely accepted is safe horny
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>>572711819
I like Lancer but his potential sort of falls off because of King continuing to be irrelevant and castle town segments being a somewhat forced interaction between chapters for characters.
Toby clearly got bored of writing Lancer's opinions as an intractable inventory item too. At least the "built an outfit to thrash your date's ass" bit was funny.
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>>572712054
Yuri is so safe horny it was standard practice to use it for TV as stand ins for homo on home male relationships. It's the pinnacle of safe horni
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>>572710175
hot but i'll have to edit out the stupid pin
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what is unsafe horny then? bonus POINTs to those who don't answer with pedoshit
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>>572712054
No that's normal actually. Safe horny is something meant to seem exotic and out there while also being something no one will judge you for.
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>>572711943
flowery is a child molester
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>>572712193
rape
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Wait till aqua gets a load of my JARONA
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>>572712193
Full on bear/bear. That's dangerously unsafe horny
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>>572712193
Mom x son (adult) incest
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>>572711683
Thank you for sharing I agree this is awesome, the original makes me tear up (happily) this one makes me feel hyped, I love Flowery so fucking much.
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it's not 1940 so homosexuals aren't really seen as exotic anymore
safe horny (especially in the context of deltarune) is like porn of the explicitly adult furry/inhuman characters
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>>572711815
Of course, I keep my save unbricked at all times.
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>>572712193
Feral, guro especially on females, bimbos etc
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YET, IT STANDS.
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>>572712193
I guess like doing it on the train tracks
That's pretty unsafe
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>>572712193
trap x regular non mob guy will get you fury from both fujos and dudes into het, even if it's utterly vanilla
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>>572712193
Dominant masculine man x Submissive feminine woman
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>>572711943
Its a reference to tha Micheal Jackson song "My Sharona" its a clever play on how Jackson sings because he makes a lot of weird vocalizations like "shamona", "he he" and "ja". In the 90s it was suspected (but never proven in a court of law) that Jackson molested kids at his Neverland Ranch.
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Where is chapter 3 all stars? Where is chapter 4 all stars? Where is the new graze challenge?
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>>572712380
wrong this is extremely safe horny
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>>572712193
This.
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>>572712402
>Micheal Jackson song "My Sharona"
Anon...
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>>572712193
incest in general still seems pretty unsafe. especially if you're into crazy shit like father x son
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I cracked it.
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workin on some mad & pink
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>>572712193
Anything tale shows actual tits and genitals. Everything else is just teasing
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>>572712193
loli, you can keep your bonus points
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>>572711819
Lancer (and Berdly) being dropped into the irrelevancy meme character zone was such a loss but it is what it is
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>>572712418
a submissive woman thats even a year younger than the man is pedoshit
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>>572712402
Flowery keeps indecent photo collections of young boys in his bedroom
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>>572709163
cute boy
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Post seth pics
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>using safe horny unironically
buzzword so dead not even /vmg/ uses it
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>>572712356
fatass doesnt know what the hell that even means
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>>572711819
Lancer is the Queen/Tenna/Flowery of his chapter.
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>>572712536
you are purposely looking into online spaces that hate that. meanwhile in the real world men well over 50 are still banging barely 20 somethings and lower
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>>572712380
If you ever tried to read officially published romance novels then you'd know that this is the safest horny imaginable
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>>572712521
berdley just made goofy faces what story relevancy could he possibly ever have
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>>572709364
There was also the last about Sans replacing whoever was running the Ferris wheel "last year" and never going into more than that.
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>Kris is on a suicide guilt quest over a promise they made to their own time-displaced idiot self from the evil ending path that ruins the plan they promised to do in the first place
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>>572711629
This is cute but I'm the opposite with Maddy, I'm all about thinking about embarrassing and gently domming her- You know that's the ideal for her, this Purple ghost shit has proven it forever.
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>>572712670
Damn, he should have considered communicating that once, ever, at all.
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>>572712193
straightbreaking, dykebreaking, gaybreaking.
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>>572712695
awesome picture
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>>572712547
Those are reference images for his art career
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>>572712373
There are like fifty anime and manga of this, you're retarded. Real unsafe horny is straight trap x girl
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>>572712412
Toby has abandoned the mission
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>>572711393
ffffffffffffffffffffffffuck
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>>572712813
LMAO
sure
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>>572712521
Berdly has been irrelevant since chapter 2, and even in his character's big moment was still treated as a massive joke by every single character. Toby teased the Berdly festival date for years just to make a single joke about not actually doing it.
Killing Berdly would have made his character much more popular and tragic to the fandom, funny enough. Keeping him in a coma ensured that nobody would care enough to feel bad but also prevents him from doing anything interesting in the normal route.
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THE POWER OF FLOWERS
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>>572712517
Right is perfect
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>>572712793
>straightbreaking
Hope this happens with Nicepants
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>>572712865
I just think it's so lame that making [Frozen Chicken] became so inconsequential for Berdly himself. Nobody gives a shit about him, not even Noelle after going psycho mode, it doesn't mean anything to her that she specifically did it to Berdly.
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>>572712842
Everyday roots theory seems more and more likely...
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>>572712823
Tbdesu pretty much anything involving a trap is "unsafe horny" beyond /d/-adjacent circles.
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>>572712193
Men collar and leashing women. Any sort of playful dominance over them, even if it's gentle and consensual which it tends to be.

>>572712796
It is, have the other half. Someone else can post the cool meme edit.
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>>572713036
nah femboys are normie shit now, basically everyone knows astolfo
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unsafe horny is futa on male forced feminization and mpreg
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>>572712823
nothing involving het can ever be unsafe horny unless it's cunnyshit
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>>572711730
sans is a sly goatmomfucker, isn't he? Messing with a character who was on the brink of turning a complete Mary Sue and all.
Happiness is not at hand in this timeline either.
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Tenna is going to tell Susie the truth once she hears Asgore was kidnapped, and that Kris killed his cousin
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>>572712521
>>572712632
>>572712865
a world where Berdly replaces Noelle's role in the story is a better world, dude has a halberd, a cool and cute personality, is funny, and has a better design too, just way better than "im a polite girl but actually im a bit weird and quirkyyy deep down!"
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>>572708269
Here you go, face sprites are not mine but it's what i based these on
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Platformer Kris only exists to increase his viability of being a smashbros invite
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>>572713101
you can do all 3 at once for ultimate danger horny
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>>572713101
thats literally the only acceptable sexuality for white heterosexual men these days
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>>572713002
Even a funeral scene to show his family actually cared could have meant something and really hammered home the "This was a real person who actually had a life in Hometown and you ended it" but every moment with the character is completely unserious.
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>>572713106
>nothing involving het can ever be unsafe horny unless it's cunnyshit
Wrong.
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>>572713092
Knowing a character doesn't mean you accept what it represents. Even in this thread we've had anons complain about femboy Ralsei..
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>>572709659
Hare Guu
I hate it
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>>572713183
Toby literally already made his Break the Targets level
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>>572713153
Kris is a girl with gigantic tits in this scenario
You just can't see them because of technical limitations
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>>572713221
you should go outside and feel the sunshine on your skin like your problems do not exist in reality

>>572713227
>posts cunnyshit
good job on proving my point
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>>572713153
I can't see shit
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>>572713036
Gay trap is normieslop mossad shit
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>>572713138
friend it's perfectly fine for you to like berdley but his personality can be condensed to one of those awful gamer shirts
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>>572713138
the point of the game is to accept being gay for ralsei while all the potential female partners become unavailable
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I might fuck around and get a bootleg Noelle plush since Toby has that autism about "no merch of Lightners"
I wonder if there's any actually cute ones
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>>572713327
>>572712064
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Growing arms as a Soul to give Kris a well-deserved hug
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>>572713153
>darkworld sprites
Good shit. Keep it up anon
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>>572713323
here's an higher res
>>572713307
this is true.
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>>572713341
this is cool and aura however
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>>572712193
You know how on the internet you see men commonly say things like “she could dom me” or “I want her to be my mommy?” This is considered safe online because it’s an accepted way of saying I want to fuck her since it’s empowering or some shit and men saying what they really mean like I want to hold her on down on the table and make her scream like my bitch which is what they really mean would get them called a creep
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>>572713153
>kriselle yaoi
i love noelle as she is but this could've been insane
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>>572713383
facts do not care about your feelings
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>>572712670
typical kris behavior
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>>572713348
>the point of the game is to accept being gay for ralsei
Kriss is female though
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>>572713138
this is why i hate people who project, self inserters, all of it, you lot are freaking retarded
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>>572713348
Being gay for Ralsei is probably going to backfire just like the other relationships are set up to fail but damn if I'm not going to try and make it work anyways.
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can't believe you guys pointed out that the flowers are all like 30 years old. aqua saw 9/11 happen and the dale earnhardt crash
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>>572713537
what a retard
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>>572712864
Flowery is the straighest man in all of christendom and I'll not have you sully his good name.
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>>572713409
Kris would kick you away and then soak you in milk and throw you at the wall
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>>572713417
Second top right sprite is so very cute
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>>572713568
You're going to date Berdly and you're going to LIKE IT little they...
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>>572713608
>aqua saw 9/11 happen
Quick, someone please draw this I'm begging you
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>>572713484
the world wouldn't have been ready i'm afraid
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>>572713608
Aqua saw 9/11 happen and she liked it
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>>572713634
flowery takes asgore's fat loads in the brown
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>>572711723
I'd say Pink is very novel too, the fight isn't the hardest (beaten by the knight, obviously) but there's a certain fun to her crazy variety of attacks that only spamton really approaches. Also haunted bomb-throwing anime catgirl you have to do pun-based dates with that ends up in love with herself at the end of the fight is a pretty uniquely ridiculous concept
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>>572709096
https://files.catbox.moe/6y0a3i.mp4
Gaster pirate is quickly becoming my favorite thing about chapter 5s release
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>>572713762
Rude and false
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>>572713417
How hard would it be to mod this in the game? People always say Noelle would be seen differently as a boy but I want to put that into practice
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>>572713756
She was dancing
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>>572713762
I really hate how you guys talk sometimes. Why do I have to read sentences like this
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>>572711514
which are good points for why it should've been a mainline miniboss (like in undertale) and not something you have to go out of your way to see. i would probably be less opposed if pink actually reacted to any decision you make like in undertale, barring the choice to buy the pink key or not

is pink going to be referenced in the future or cause any implication? we don't even pick her up and take her to the dark fountain in the school. jevil linked us to seam, spamton was linked to tenna who knew kris on a personal basis and referenced heavily in ch 3, eram and ramb also gave explicit mention of knowing everything about kris, black knight is obvious, gerson heavily and explicitly guided susie into becoming a better version of herself. what does pink do that someone else taking her place couldn't? does the interpretation of the game or role someone has fundamentally change after having beaten pink, that wouldn't be missed if it was removed from the game? i don't think a passing parallel to kris justifies it when the previous chapter was explicitly explaining parallels against susie to make her feel better about her place in the prophecy

i think it could be a lot more justified if the player got a pink-related item after defeating her (like every other secret boss), but they don't. they instead get a possible item from every other flower, except pink

i kind of miss how the secret boss actually gave you a sentence or two to analyze to death during the gap between chapter releases to tide you over. every secret boss had one except for pink

i remember playing the game almost 10 years ago and by far my favorite line to keep thinking about was jevil telling you "SOON, THE "QUEEN" RETURNS, AND HELL'S ROAR BUBBLES FROM THE DEPTHS..." and wondering what the fuck was going to happen next
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anyone got that image an anon made a few days ago which was like a chart of how pacifist, weird, aborted weird etc. all these little routes ended up with a "key" which all contributed to getting a true ending?
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>>572713636
I would start flipping down the wall like one of those climber toys
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>>572713634
flowery is a pure service top who just wants to make his big bear bottom happy
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>>572712193
unconsensual /ss/
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>>572713348
what if he's just seducing us so we stay obedient
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>>572712865
What? You don't keep your turkey in the freezer before the Holiday cooking? Who are you? An apostate?
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The sideways Susie and Ralsei reaction is really funny
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>>572709659
Slayers, specifically the first OVA and Second movie (Returns)
I am thorughly conviced I loved the fight and glorious return of the character the most out of anyone in this general I've been with her since day 1 and this still feels like it's too good to be true.

>>572710431
>Souboutei
Oh fuck that's an obscure one. I've been reading Karakuri Circus and that one is defnitely on my list next up, it really interests me. Fujita seems to be pretty obscured in the west, pretty cultivated taste anon, now I'm hyped for it.

I think my favorite manga would be Sabu to Ichi or Golden Kamuy to name something newer I also love.
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>>572713762
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>>572713819
I imagine it would be easier once all the chapters are out, but you would need to edit text dialogue as well as sprites (still I would kill to see it happen).
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>>572713992
Stop enjoying things
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>>572713793
>discussion quickly shifts to things that didnt happen because the game is a mysterious happenings lampshading fest
grim
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>>572713138
Berdly would be better because he could have an actual character arc. Noelle is pointless outside of SideB because she doesnt grow at all, the plot just happens to her.
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>i stop posting ralsei hates flowery images for a day
>causes flowery lovers to suddenly post less
very curious!!
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>>572713965
but the whole point of the onsen scene was "do whatever you want kris, i trust you even if i don't agree with how you get there". cuz he obviously doesn't understand why we keep opening dark fountains
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>flowery acts like he doesn't have favorites
>literally wears green and orange
>literally makes you fight him with an orange heart
>orange is the only one to fight by his side
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>2.8 hours
>received for free
>deltarune avatar
what kind of marketing strategy is this mr. fox??
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my practice session makes me feel like a retard, i dont see any improvement. i wish i have Gerson here to give me advice or encourage me
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>>572714115
she grows into susie
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>>572714004
Golden Kamuy was great.
I signed up for a historical murder mystery with military conspiracy backdrop and got food porn and homosexual sauna scenes.
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>>572713819
Pretty hard, you'd have to resprite Noelle and she has a lot of sprites
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>>572714169
He's definitely fucking the little rat up the ass daily
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>>572714168
we don't understand that either
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>>572714175
>GTX 770
holy shit, does deltarune even run on that potato?
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>>572714305
Plus all the dialogue which refers to him as her
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>>572714337
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>>572714334
can you explain what we do understand, post ch5?
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>>572713632
Facts do not care about your feelings.
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>>572714168
what if that's just to encourage us to be obedient and he doesn't genuinely mean it
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>>572714349
Why are they hugging with their clothes off? Why does that make me feel funny?
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>>572714349
is the porn finally starting to roll out? also SAUCEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>572714349
god that is hot
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>>572714434
Because he probably doesn't care. He's the wormwood.
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>>572714349
It's a good thing those dick thorns are retractable.
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>>572714456
Gay
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idk how to feel about Susie saying Ralsei is a lot more talkative when Kris is not around. I don't think Gote likes us.
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>>572713773
Fight-wise, it's definitely quality. I think it's better than Gerson Eram and maybe Spamton if difficulty is a concern. And I love those fights. I almost understand people who are dissappointed because she's an existing character and they were obsessed with the darkness of the crystals perhaps a little too eagerly, and wanted some more doom and gloom and conspiracies but you know what I wholeheartedly love the positive tone and aftermath of the fight, and that we get to prevent someone's schizo meltdown, that's genuinely unexpected and uplifting.
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>>572714169
>Orange is the Bravery SOUL who is a Monster that wants to be a Human and the game over theme is "Faint Courage"
Much to think about
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>kriselleknight
Cringe theory
>gaster is the weird route final boss with megalovania playing
Based theory
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>>572709659
Tatami galaxy
I really enjoyed it, probably my favorite secret boss even if it isn't quite as satisfying to beat as the knight
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>>572714532
What does THAT mean? Explain in detail.
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>>572713002
It sucks that in weird route Noelle never reflects on what Berdly meant to her or explores her feelings any deeper than it making her feel powerful. Aborted routes dont even have her appreciate Berdly for trying to stop (You). They could have cast snowgrave on anyone and nothing changes.
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>>572714613
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>>572714561
She meant he says slurs when in off
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>>572714349
this ralsei is so hot but I hate this image from the depths of my heart
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>>572713965
He wants to fuck Kris because he likes Kris, there is a marked difference between that and the condescending tone he uses for the player and Orange
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>>572714349
sauce for full image?
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so asgore doesnt know, ralsei doesnt know and kris wont let (You) know. why is this a good thing, again?
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>>572714659
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>>572714416
why kris keeps opening fountains and working with the knight
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SO HE LIVED THE
FLOWER MAN
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>>572714793
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>>572714169
Because Flowery is Rudy, Green is Carol, and Orange is Noelle
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if megalovania plays anywhere in deltarune im going to close the game and sit in silence for 15 minutes
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>>572714829
we dont know why kris does that, thou
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>>572714860
>Green is Carol
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>>572714723
Artist is mercuriangel

https://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/1788/b5769ee91be160c46d32c50ce0ab51df.jpeg

https://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/1788/027b569cf70d0b77444fce2ab1eb34fc.jpeg
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>>572714839
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>>572714890
What if it starts playing when you play a game of rock paper scissors with sans?
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>>572713106
A lot of straight trap is shota
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>>572714990
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>>572714349
Reminds me of that one manga with the vtuber manager
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>>572714996
this is the only reasonable use for megalovania, i can accept this
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>>572715026
unless the trap is the dom of course
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>>572709913
That's why Noyno is the superior prince
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>>572714383
That would be the easy part
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>>572714585
>gaster is the weird route final boss with megalovania playing
Corny theory
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What I'm really interested in is where the Undertale Genocide Boss Intro Riff plays next time since it didn't show up in this chapter
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>>572714561
Ralsei is afraid of us, this has been implied for a while and it's almost explicit now. Most people don't like people they're afraid of unless they're really mentally ill like Noelle.
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>Ralsie refs Artemisia
>>Artemisia is also known as Wormwood
>>>Wormwood is associated with the endtimes
What the fuck is his endgame here?
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Dess is human because SHE is the Chara stand-in, not Kris. Kris is Frisk.
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>>572715165
Then he should quit praying to us.
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>>572711284
She is really easy once you figure out the strategy for each of her attacks
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>>572713002
I mean that's the point. As Noelle says...he's just an NPC to her now. He's just Berdly doing Berdly things, none of these people mean anything to her now, except Kris because she believes they changed
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>>572714989
thanks
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>>572715185
its another \/agu*post
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>>572712402
Several of the children accusing Flowery in the 90s were proven to have been taken to hypnotists by their parents to train them into making false testimonies
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>>572714964
It’s nuanced
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>>572714004
>Oh fuck that's an obscure one. I've been reading Karakuri Circus and that one is defnitely on my list next up, it really interests me. Fujita seems to be pretty obscured in the west, pretty cultivated taste anon, now I'm hyped for it.
Awesome! Souboutei is actually the only manga of his I finished, I read a bit of Karakuri Circus but paused because I was reading it with my ex before we broke up thank you for reading my blogpost but I REALLY REALLY adored Souboutei like It's a genuine masterpiece from start to finish and Deido is my favorite antagonist in all of fiction by far I love him as much as I love Mettaton, you will not be disappointed 100% It's worth it every single character in it is just phenomenal... I have Gekkou Jourei and Karakuri Circus fully downloaded on my phone I'll hop on them once I'm properly healed.
>Golden Kamuy
Golden Kamuy is on my Top 3!! I love it so fucking much too!! genuinely peak, you will definitely like Souboutei if you like Golden Kamuy I guarantee you.
>Sabu to Ichi
Wow, I never heard of this but I really like Robot Keiji from Ishinomori so I'll definitely check that out! I love the original Kamen Rider manga by him too
Well I will take the opportunity to recommend manga to you, apologizes if this post is hard to read I have been awake all night.
If you like Ishinomori's stuff I'm sure you'll like other old stuff to, so I'll recommend you read Black Jack by Osamu Tezuka, It's phenomenal and really really really really damn good, It's also not printed left to right like Astro Boy was so It's easier to read, Black Jack is seriously super fun to read every chapter has another interesting thing happening.
Another old manga artist I'll recommend is Shigeru Mizuki, Gegege No Kitaro by itself is already great but his biographical manga "Showa-Shi" is AWESOME!!!!! seriously, you'll like it if you like Golden Kamuy as well (lol)
running out of space to write... umm read Gin To Kin by Fukumoto too!!
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>>572714928
that's what I said
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>>572715228
The way things went in Ch5, he probably won't anymore.
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>>572713634
>pure hetero energy
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>>572715289
it's wrong, green makes more sense as toriel
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no idea what's going on here
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>>572713446
You know Maddy wants Asgore to destroy her. In UT she liked Undyne because she stabbed her repeatedly. She's so into being someone's slut.

>>572712517
Looking great. Good moment to bring up her japanese name is "Momo" which means Peach among other things.
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>>572714964
Asgore owes her money, she feeds him, and he thinks she's a really lovely person when you get to know her. Also we don't know what she was like before the terrible no good very bad incident and the flowers seem to draw on older versions of the Holiday and Dreemurr families (Aqua and Seth are kid Kris and Asriel, Yellow and Blue are undivorced Asgore and Toriel)
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The drawing rebound depression has hit, yet I must draw Noelle
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It literally doesn't make sense for the player to be the angel at this point. Ralsei praying to the Angel implies that it has agency, active control over the prophecy, something we pretty obviously lack. And why would he offer prayers we can't hear? If we were the Angel, he would be praying when he was in the same room as Kris.
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>>572715370
not really, blue does
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>>572714989
This entire chapter was hinting that Dessriel was a cover for Azzy and Rudy fucking in secret.
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>>572714593
>'french exit' album cover photo
>who really cares' coloring
MAKE YOUR FUCKING MIND UP
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>>572715263
This was inevitable with how tsundere Ralsei acts
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If I made Deltarune Flowery would be a 7ft tall bimbo woman with the same personality
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>>572715414
This shit probably funny as fuck
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>>572715454
it implies he believes the angel has agency or active control. we pray irl and nothing happens
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>>572715185
>And so wept the fallen star, making rivers with its tears.
>Then, slowly, from the bitter water, something grew.
>It looked like glass.
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>>572715263
I hope someone also draws flowsei hatesex but with rals on top.
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>>572715530
>we pray irl and nothing happens
I don't think you should take it for granted that Toby Fox of all people thinks in this fatalistic way
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if i made deltarune ralsei being called a bimbo would be a recurring joke
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>>572715414
Kris jokingly stuffed a $20 in Ralsies waistband then instinct took over
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>>572715414
Ralsei being carefree is always a nice sight
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>>572715456
>the gay black faggot makes more sense as the ex wife than the woman who cooks and wont talk to asgore
yeah sorry i forgot all about toriels ballet career my bad
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>>572715652
susie wouldn't let him score
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>>572715763
i HATE this image
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If I made Deltarune then you could inspect Noelle and learn that she's a virgin saving herself for marriage with Kris and that her panties are white with red stripes
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please tell me i am enough
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>>572715454
Ralsei has imperfect knowledge as proven in this chapter and we do in fact have a lot of agency over how the prophecy goes considering that the world ends if we give up on playing
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>>572715850
Keep on smiling
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>>572715790
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>>572715730
If Susie saw Kris and Ralsei about to kiss, do you really think she'd stop them?
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>>572715850
You are enough, you've always been enough.
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>>572715850
You are enough and I love you.
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>>572715850
Hi enough, I'm anon
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>>572715850
You are NOT ENOUGH. Do MORE. Be MORE.
Do not sacrifice what you COULD BECOME for WHAT YOU ARE NOW.
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>>572715850
*brppptpfff* excuse me
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>>572715626
People really think Toby Fox saw the Earthbounds praying and got so mad his fedora blew off
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>>572715850
>PROCEED
>PROCEED
>PROCEED
>PROCEED
>PROCEED
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>>572713634
That changes as soon as Asgore walks in
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>>572715850
Just being human, that's enough for me.
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>>572715891
it was just a joke
canonically speaking i think she'd crack a joke about it and leave it at that
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>>572715723
Green is paired with orange, who is Noelle. Blue is paired with Yellow, who is Asgore.
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You guys think Dess is important at all? Every chapter makes her seem she is just Azzy's girlfriend who dies and Deltarune is just about Noelle and her slave Kris.
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>>572715850
You're just Noelle and you're Noellenough
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>>572715891
>Susie contracts main character syndrome and wants to romance everyone herself one by one
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>>572715891
Yeah, that was that final panel of the prophecy she smashed.
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>>572715850
Its okay to not be enough.
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>>572716113
>orange, who is Noelle
???
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>>572714383
True, but sprite editing is arguably more tedious, even more so if Noel ends up taller than Noelle
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>>572716035
There is nothing gay about two bros wrestling in the traditional greco-roman fashion.
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>Noelle holding Kris down and grinding her pussy into Kris's genitals while Kris whimpers and pleads with Noelle while she says "You can't even say 'stop' like you used to!"
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>>572716061
>Susie walks in
>"Heh, GAYYYYYYYYYY"
>walks out
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>>572716130
>You guys think Dess is important at all?
No.

At this point I think Toby has every incentive to never make it clear what happened to her. The fact she's gone is the more important factor to the story now as oposed to why or how
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>>572716113
>Yellow, who is Asgore.
yellow is undyne, asgore doesn't have a representation among the flowers. Asgore is himself.
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>>572715296
Really glad Souboutei is also printed in French like a bunch of Fujita's manga so I can get it and hold it eventually. Cannot wait to get to it. I've already read some Kitaro, it's great, and speaking of Tezuka and yokai: I'm in the middle of Dororo, which I'm liking a lot more than its reputation suggests. I wanted to get into Phoenix next, but I'll see about Jack Black too, which I had forgotten, it seems to be really influential and you've made me curious, Showa-Shi is going onto the list too cuz I really want to read more of that man.

Anyways if you want a rec here's an obscure shot in the dark because you seem to be waaaay better read than I am: try Animal Land, by one of Fujita's disciples, I think a lot of his charm carried into that mangaka's work, a sort of really absurdist and out there high concept shonen with a great hook. Cheeers.
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>>572716201
Male Noelle, the greatest rapist in Hometown
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Okay but what if the flowers are meant to be aspects of Kris?
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>>572715891
She'd just stand 2 inches away expecting to get one too
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unsafe horny is traditional masculine man and traditional feminine woman couple, notice how soriel is hated here
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>>572716191
>mouse
>cowardly
>hid her real self at first
>wants to be respected
>not taken seriously
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>>572716179
>*STOP
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How is the story going to "justify" Kris? If Kris' motives for putting the entire town/world in danger, attempting to help kidnap their mom, helping their dad get kidnapped, helping undyne get kidnapped, helping the being that killed flowery, helping the being that (can) kill Tenna and Jackenstein is literally just "I wanted to save Dess"...
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>>572716201
>male role swap with this dialogue
Now that is just a rapist kek
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>>572715850
Get off the computer and have some air, or read a little under a tree. Or a night walk if it's too hot. Turn off your phone too. Just don't look at a screen for a while.
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>>572716334
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>>572716227
I will now buy your game
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>>572716339
>mouse
noelle is a doe
>cowardly
true for noelle but orange is literally brave
>hid her real self at first
not really
>wants to be respected
noelle really doesnt
>not taken seriously
as is most of the cast
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>>572715723
>the they/them faggot makes more sense as the ex wife than the character who loves the Asgore analogue and helps him through his depression caused by his self-inflicted guilt
The flowers want to make Asgore's dreams come true you know
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>>572716370
It's deeper than just "muh Dess", remember Kris is inspired by Oersted
Kris' life is pure suffering and their judgement is clouded
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>>572716250
Asgore’s sprite is yellow in the flashback scene where he talks about his self hatred consuming him and him blaming himself and assuming other people hate him, just like Yellow does throughout the game
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>>572716201
ugh stop torturing me with the au where we got toxic yaoi
i'm going to assume only noelle is genderbent here because i don't want to see male susie ever. but i also just realized suselle being het might make it just a teeny bit more interesting because you rarely see cute boy x monster girl that isn't a babe or a "monster" girl (regular cute girl with horns)
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>>572709659
She should've been fatter.
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>>572716370
maybe he's not even doing this willingly and was forced into this mess
the holiday family is full of rapists after all
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>>572716339
This makes Mouse more of a berdly than a Noelle
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>>572716201
If this happened Toby would've been cancelled instantly
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>>572716370
Toby is setting up the player to help the others to stop Kris, resulting in the death of us both so the gay girl pairing has no conflicts once the story wraps up.
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>>572716320
Susie demands prima nocta over the Fun Gang, huh? I see how it is.
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>>572709163
That they/them thussy/thick got people going crazy
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>>572716418
the agp radiating off this is blinding
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This has been the most Ralseiful thread I've seen since Ch5 dropped keep em comin.
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>>572716339
Also she's a bully who cries to her big sister when her victims retaliate
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>>572716418
Finally, the forcefem content is coming up
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>>572716130
She might just be normal dead and the game is about everyones unhealthy coping with it. It might be a bad message if doing all this evil shit did work to bring her back in the end.
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>>572716505
>i'm going to assume only noelle is genderbent here because i don't want to see male susie ever
It would just be a shorter bowl cut and a vest instead of jacket. She's already pretty boyish
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>>572716370
dess's pussy was that good
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>>572712356
Got an opp called Tachibana. Kicked out his leg, now he's just Bana.
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AIN'T IT NICE
THE LIFE FOREVER FOR
FLOWERS
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>>572714564
I think her being a really positive point with a crystal boss we could actually save and bring back to castle town suits the tone of the chapter really well, especially since we won't be seeing the flowers again unless they have some kind of last hurrah during the roaring. I think she's a really fun character in general though so I'm partially just happy we'll have more interactions with her. Chapter 6 also isn't really THAT far off and I'd be surprised if we don't get a Seam fight with some lore drops before he gives us the pure crystal
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>>572716314
>Aqua is the devil child Kris
>Seth is Kris' memory of little Azzy
>Flowery is Kris' envious perception of current Azzy
>Orange is Kris' inferiority complex
>Green is Kris' compulsion to throw themself silently into responsiblity
>Yellow is Kris' suicidal thoughts
>Blue is..?
I feel like it only partially fits, and mostly because there's some overlap with Asgore because they're family.
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>>572716605
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Deltarune is the LOST of video games.
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>>572714829
Mmmh, it just occured to me... The fun gang only encounter the Knight when there's someone to be abducted or make a Titan appear...
Carol is akin to Gendo from NGE. She has a master plan to do something incredibly nihilistic so Dess could be saved. Like Gendo, she may have access to another prophecy that uses the Roaring as a means for that.
You can imagine the rest.
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Im glad Toby looked at Kress' popularity and realized its better when the doe rapes.
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>>572716605
This is the part I was dreading the most when this shit went down
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>>572714276
I fucking love it, I think the action panneling is out of this world. Some of the best gunplay and messy skirmishes I've enjoyed in any for of media, and the historical + cultural shit is just fascinating, I love this kind of manga. And I'm not even into the fagshit at all, but if you love it that's great, have it, it's nice.
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Ralsei the fluffy boy died for
Ralsei the mean girl to live
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>>572716201
/utg/ back at work with kino I see
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>>572716598
Ralseifulness is next to godliness.
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>>572716648
i agree. i was trying to say that susie being a boyish/masculine girl is largely her appeal, so a boy!susie would be pointless, kinda similar to how a girl!ralsei is pointless
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>>572716725
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Wonder how many ESLs struggled with the VN portion of the Pink fight.
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>>572709659
one piece
Liked the old anime cues of it.
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>>572716919
I'm an EFL and I struggled
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>>572716201
This has got to be a thing someday. It's just too good to pass up
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>>572716201
I now understand Kriselle
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>>572715723
media literacy levels running low
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>>572716863
id enjoy boy susie and girl ralsei. im tired of hetnorm shaming
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How strong is he?
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>>572716808
I agree.. I liked forcefem when it wasn't considered representation or whatever. Just odd that images like that are no longer seen as the fetish fuel they are
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>>572716274
>Really glad Souboutei is also printed in French like a bunch of Fujita's manga so I can get it and hold it eventually.
The french have it easy! so much good manga printed there, well I'm a poorfag so I don't really buy anything at all ever since I left highschool but I own all volumes of Kamen Rider in portuguese.
>I'm in the middle of Dororo, which I'm liking a lot more than its reputation suggests. I wanted to get into Phoenix next, but I'll see about Jack Black too, which I had forgotten, it seems to be really influential and you've made me curious
I read Dororo It's awesome! I actually read it after finding out an enemy in Pikmin is literally just named "Dororo" in the code lol and It's like a fucked up fetus too, amazing, Phoenix has the issue of the english edition being fucked up left-to-right so I haven't read it yet but I'm interested and will read it one day! Black Jack is REALLY good and it cheered me up and made me emotional and made me feel intense emotions all that jazz when I read it, definitely my favorite Tezuka work you'll like it!
>Showa-Shi is going onto the list too cuz I really want to read more of that man.
Definitely worth it 100%, Mizuki is a goated author and person.
>Anyways if you want a rec here's an obscure shot in the dark because you seem to be waaaay better read than I am: try Animal Land, by one of Fujita's disciples, I think a lot of his charm carried into that mangaka's work, a sort of really absurdist and out there high concept shonen with a great hook. Cheeers.
Woah!! that seems awesome I'm definitely adding it to my list because I loved the Gash Bell anime from what I watched which was like 30 episodes, thank you for alerting me to It's existence, Cheers!
My final 2 recommendations:
If you liked Gash Bell (assuming you read it) you'll probably like Law Of Ueki, very similar shonen, and the last manga I finished, was Kiichi, really good! philosophy similar to Golden Kamuy's!
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>>572716963
I'm an ELF and I touched my self (to mewmew)
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>>572716919
One person said that being ESL made it easier for them because they were already thinking about the multiple meanings words can have in English.
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>>572716959
what's happening here
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>>572717003
so you genuinely don't see how green not talking is an analogy for toriel no longer talking to asgore?
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>>572716863
I'm at point where a fem ralsie crossdressing as a prince seems more interesting and compelling than the inverse. Honestly if you genderbend everything in the game it seems weirdly better suited for the characters
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EVEN IF BROKEN I AM MORE THAN GLASS
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>>572717092
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We still do not have a female schizoboss and we're never getting one
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>>572717103
>so you genuinely don't see how [unrelated shit] is an analogy
nta but no
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>>572717174
seam in chapter 6, if you headcanon them as grandma
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>>572717004
>hetnorm shaming
boy susie and girl ralsei would be boring. if you want masculine men and feminine women then that's basically everything barring standouts like deltarune
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>>572717221
>[unrelated shit]
and they call ME illiterate
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>>572716617
>do WR
>Noelle becomes the Angel amalgamation with (You) and Kris
>she destroys the world and etc.
>Dess not mentioned at all
kek
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>>572717168
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>>572717168
Nice
>would put it on the back of a skyline as a bumper sticker
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Is it force-fem if he got into the dress willingly?
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>>572717174
>falseflagging as a pippinsposter now
Get a chance.
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>>572717092
dog taming
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>>572716721
I was thinking less detailed, simple aspects
>Aqua is Kris' mischievousness
>Seth is Kris' intelligent side (remember he consistently places top three in the class while sleeping through class every day)
>Flowery is Kris' over the top showboat nature
>Orange is Kris' headstrongness
>Green is Kris' compassion and reclusiveness (also the cooking stuff fits given tori teaching him and the cooking game during chapter three)
>Yellow is Kris' tendency to put the blame on himself (And possibly meant to show his naivety to others tricking him)
>Blue is Kris' compassion (A lot of the stuff with Noelle fits here like him rocking the ferris wheel after they lost the King and Queen selection)
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>>572717174
maddie is a woman, chud
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>>572717048
I think forcefem on characters that are already feminine is kinda lame, the entire point of the fetish is to break apart the characters' resistance and see them fall and become mindbroken into loving it. this isn't really forcefem it's more like, suggestionfem or just straight up grooming
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>>572716919
Toby included that segment specifically to fuck with dirty minorities
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>>572717305
It's not, now that you mention it. So that image is incredibly out of character, I don't think the boy who has happily been wearing ribbons since day one would freak out over a little makeup. Ugh
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>>572717103
All the Flowers are of good times, not bad. Kris doesn't talk to Asgore but Aqua isnt a silent emo brat. Blue never shutting the fuck up is because Asgore misses talking to Toriel so much.
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>>572717439
Lmao I remember when this was first posted
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>>572717048
Pretty much. I'm far from a prude, but I feel like everything has its time and place. Ralsei's supposed "trans arc" wouldn't bother me if he actually took agency and made it clear that this is what he wants, but he's weirdly passive though most of it, and a lot of accompanying fanwork kind of carries the same feeling. I guess I'm also biased because I physically cannot whack it to characters I care about, especially the Deltarune kind of characters.
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>>572717305
yes if done by a lightner because he's groomed to be a slave of lightners
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>>572716648
What if male Susie was feminine and female Ralsei was masculine
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>>572717439
What even was the original context of this thing?! It's so bafflingly stupid, yet I can't stop watching it on loop!
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>>572717469
>All the Flowers are of good times
nice headcanon, sad it doesn't hold up
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If Ralsei ever pulls a Rock Lee and takes off his restraints, I hope we get to fight alongside him at least once and not feel like he's carrying the whole thing. If it's gonna lead to only a fight against him, boring. I'm fine with both things happening tho.
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>>572717530
We'll just have Lancer get him to do his makeup then.
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Do you think Aqua would enjoy being ryona'd or is she purely sadistic with no masochist traits
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>>572717058
Well then definitely check out Gash Bell next time you're in the mood for a good boiled chicken kinda shonen with some good action, you'll recognize a lot of Fujita's quirks in it. In fact it being one of my favorite childhood manga might be one of the reasons I've developed this fondness for Undertale and its corny ass, with its weird little monster guys and campy sentimentality. I'm so lucky to live between good countries with a good manga industry so I never have to suffer that "left to right" flippy shit lmao.
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>>572717405
not a schizoboss
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>>572717305
People are trying to force their weird insecure sissy fetish on a guy who's already incredibly comfortable with being fem.
"Haha, you will wear the frilly pink dress now!" they say to the guy in eyeliner and pink horns and already wasn't wearing pants.
It's silly.
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>>572717535
This could be fun.
>Male!Susie looks more like a gecko or something
>Female!Ralsei is almost indistinguishable from Asriel
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>>572717535
>What if male Susie was feminine
I'm trying to visualize that right now and I am not sure how you could do it with the bully persona. Ralsie can easily go either way though
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>>572717545
Its rotoscoped over Pathologic 1
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>>572717273
>nothing in the game hints at my crackpot theory, therefore i am the knower
yeah buddy, you sure are
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>there are STILL retards in this very thread that unironically believe in Rudy Knight
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>>572717591
chapter 5 fulfilled 0 of my hopes so i dunno if it'll happen but i would really love it if you fought against him in weird route, and with him on the normal route. or maybe just briefly you two box and then after you spare him it's back to normal
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>>572716598
Here's an oldie
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>>572717665
Noelle can't be trans because Carol would send her to a special Bible camp that beats her if she was
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>>572717385
Don't forget that Kris is the Fun Gang's "tactician", and that's what Seth is for the flowers.
Something to note is that Kris is generally perfect at everything they try despite having no awards on their side of the room. Their pirouette is perfect form, they're amazing at piano and guitar. Their grades are fantastic. And of course, when nobody's watching, they're also stronger than Susie.
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>>572717708
so the motherly feeder flower has nothing to do with the motherly feeder woman? the gay black ballet man is somehow a better allegory?
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>>572717547
Why not? Flowery is college age Rudy, Aqua is younger Kris, Yellow is still a lawman,
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>>572717665
>femboy noelle
i'm glad this didn't happen because i'd become a fiend
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>>572717385
You know what, I do see it now. With all the parallels some of this can be applied to other people, but Kris really does fit here.
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>noelle, sweetie, i vagueposted again!
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>>572717796
Carol wouldn't do that
The bigger problem is that Noelle is do what she is told and make no decisions of her own: the character so she wouldn't make the decision to transition
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>>572717103
She still communicates with him and wants to be around him/support him, it's a useless comparison
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>>572717267
>unironic tumblr screencap posting
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>>572712193
Older man (25+) / younger woman (18-21) gets people really mad. They're seemingly only okay with age gaps when it comes to homosexuals.
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>>572717915
>wants to be around him/support him
that's the case with literally all the flowers though
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>>572716505
>i also just realized suselle being het might make it just a teeny bit more interesting because you rarely see cute boy x monster girl that isn't a babe or a "monster" girl (regular cute girl with horns)
I fear there's no saving suselle, but genderswapping it is kind of fun
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>>572717454
Yeah, that also doesn't help. Taking a character like Ralsei and somehow sissifying him more just feels wrong.
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I think trying to draw analogies between all the Flowers and the other characters is kinda mislead. Only Aqua really has a direct comparison to Kris
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>>572717629
I should, I own a notebook shaped like Gash's magical book thingy so I need to at least finish the anime or pick up the manga and stop larping...
>I'm so lucky to live between good countries with a good manga industry so I never have to suffer that "left to right" flippy shit lmao.
True, glad they mostly stopped doing that nowadays.
>>572717796
Carol is nice and would be fine with it, she's a better mom than Toriel...
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>>572715370
>The kind character who communicates with notes isn't related to the character who Asgore says is kind and who communicates with notes
Hmmm... Grim?
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>>572718013
Everyone on this godforsaken website would love suselle if it was hetslop like this by the way
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>>572717660
He could be a Regina George type bully instead of a Sid Toy Story type bully. Instead of eating chalk you catch him throwing the chalk back up to maintain his figure.
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>>572717174
Fujo pippins is unironically a better character than Mew Mew, ESPECIALLY a better character in the context of writing women. I say this with my whole chest.
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>>572717967
it is a little cringe but if you can't address the point being made, you don't have an argument
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>>572717980
Who feels this way, comrade?
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>>572718042
Carol puts cigarettes out on Noelle for fun
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>>572718086
I would not and it would honestly probably destroy my enjoyment of the game a lot, I think my hatred for Noelle if she were a guy would cause a hole in the ozone layer.
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>>572718053
>the character who Asgore says is kind and who communicates with notes
genuinely have no idea who you're talking about here, pretty much everyone in asgores life communicates by talking to him
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>>572717980
It gets losers, mostly actual children, on the internet mad but its what happens in real life so is it reslly unsafe?
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>>572717839
>bringing up blue
>out of fucking nowhere
bad faith argument
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>>572717454
Ralsei doesn’t fit this, but the best option is when they’re naturally feminine but don’t want to be, get teased about it, have a complex about it, etc. Then when you dress them up it’s very effective and makes them embarrassed. Plus, then you’re able to include fun things like tricking others because they’re so feminine. It’s mild “forced” anyway.
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>>572716675
Yeah. The theme of the crystals and the schizobosses are Hopes and Dreams and which each one of them we've seen a happpier story. I think this has some sort of significance and Deltarune being such a sentimental heavy story might have something planned with this. Same reason we bring Tenna to Mettaton. We might seemore Lightners get over their lost dreams.
>we won't be seeing the flowers again unless they have some kind of last hurrah during the roaring
I've thought about this. And I keep wanting this last hurrah to be like Flowery's clash with Kris, except headed by Pink in his place. It will be the most anime thing of all time. I doubt it will ever happen and I might even draw it but a man can dream.
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>>572718086
Calm down dike, I'd have no issues with Suselle if it had any actual build up and felt natural in the slightest instead of as forced as it does.
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>>572718013
yeah i agree. if it were yaoi it would still be boring, if susie were a guy it would be damn boring, as it is now (lesbians) it's just mildly okay
but if noelle is a dude, then you do have that air of "freshness". of course it would still be way too saccharine and dampen susie's character too much
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>>572717967
tumblr is better than twitter
tumblr is better than /v/
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>>572718196
>Secondary
Grim!
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Does anyone else not like Ralsei? Like I know he's a main character and all but I don't really like him. I wish I could replace him in the party and make him not talk all the time
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>>572718261
That’s why I’m convinced it’s got to be for drama.
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>>572718086
People would fucking hate Noel
>hey Kris buddy please bring that new girl over to my house so I can make a move on her Im begging you dont fuck this up for me Kris
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>>572717839
>only going off the obvious external characteristics instead of analyzing their actual stories
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARP
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>>572717660
>I am not sure how you could do it with the bully persona
>Ralasie
aiyo
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>>572718218
>>out of fucking nowhere
read the thread retard
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>>572718402
wtf was this again?
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>>572718376
noelle takes his place in the normal route. susie becomes the prince. wish granted.
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>>572718332
Not a high bar, to be honest
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>>572718437
>Ralasie
aiyo
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>>572717839
If Blue wasn't gay and black, would you still object to the comparison?
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thread is getting grimmer, post faves to make it better
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>>572718376
Straight to Hell with you
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>>572718535
shut UP
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blueck
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>>572718376
Tobysoft Inc. has dispatched agents to your house to brick your save.
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>>572718402
>Deltarune Online
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>>572718512
Roblox
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>>572718537
probably, since green would still make more sense as toriel is kind, likes to cook and again, wont speak to asgore
I can't see a single connection between her and blue, they're nothing alike on any level
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>>572718130
Make a point yourself instead of posting a screencap like it's a holy text you lazy retard. Now that I think of it I fucking hate when people post 4chan screencaps too.
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>>572718231
Yes, exactly. Characters best fit for it are those with feminine tendencies, or appearance against their wishes, and they're ashamed and dislike it but very deeply don't hate it, so you poke right at their insecurities until they grow to love it. Otherwise you could forcefem any male character who's 100% male, but that's just pointless because it's a trying to fit the cube inside the round hole situation.
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>>572718551
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>>572718294
Noelle being a dude makes the ship better because it's now about a masculine girl and a girly boy, flipping stereotypes
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>>572718551
Out of nowhere people just post the same bait about the same topics and 5 different fish spawn to take the bait I don't understand It's like everyone has short term memory.
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>>572718551
I think it’s time I finally draw this.
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>>572718013
Ralsusie is better than Susie with male Noel. It's adorable, actually.

The date that Susie and Ralsei have in Cyber World often gets glossed over and forgotten by the fandom. They have cotton candy together, and he teaches her how to heal.
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This image is really funny to me because I too had to convince my dad survey program wasn't a virus in order to let me download it on his laptop
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>>572718036
When Ralsei and Noelle have interactions in chapter 6 that mirror the interactions between Ralsei and Orange, you will feel ashamed of your words and deeds
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>The retards arguing about who Green is when we already solved them all being Kris
lmao
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Thoughts on Deltarune being the Noelle game?

>NR
>Noelle dates Susie and doesn't become evil
>WR
>Noelle dates (You) and Kris and she becomes evil
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>>572718702
How does Toriel manage to make pie without the batter getting covered in fur?
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>>572718717
I love reaction based fishing minigames.
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If you genderbent Blue and Yellow theyd actually be popular instead of the most forgotten flowers.
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>>572718757
so?
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>>572718848
She wears a full-body furnet
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I don't dislike suselle but I hope it will be plot relevant and not just a relationship for ship stimmies.
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>>572718798
I think he's cute.
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>>572718661
i accept your concession
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>>572718841
susie in the protagonist thoever and you can tell because it is she who gatekeeps all pussy.
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>All of this fucking whining and arguing over who Green, Yellow, Aqua, Blue, Orange, and Flowery are

They're all flowers, mystery solved
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>>572718880
i love fish
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>>572708901
Best UT/DR fangames?
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>>572718910
People hate gay men. Not femboys, gay men. It's sad.
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>>572718910
>yurislop
nah
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>>572718990
Chapter 5.
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>>572718921
what?
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>>572718989
Well now I need a web fishing Ralsei mod
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>>572718990
That's like asking which animal has the tastiest shit
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>>572718910
why should anyone care?
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>>572718647
Blue is the only flower with a talk sprite specifically so he can make Toriel's annoyed face
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>>572718910
blue is maybe, but yellow? he is by far the funniest and coolest flower not named flowery
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Kris pussy
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>>572718992
femboys aren't men. it's not that deep.
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>>572718992
This is true except that it's not sad, it's just correct and normal
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>>572718716
noel's design doesn't seem too girly. i somewhat agree with what you mean
but also if i'm being honest i don't think noelle period is too overtly girly, she's a golden child who self restricts a lot but it's not like she's calling herself cute and giggling and twirling when you put her in ribbons. i could've missed something though
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>Menus are diagetic
>HERO_SWORD exists physically in the same plane as the fun gang
>holidaygirl1225 makes reference to the supernatural connection she has to Dragon Blazers
>The connection is played out in the sword route with the ice mage maze (you're playing Dragon Blazers in the sword route)
>Weird route skips over huge cutscenes/dialogues and even gameplay segments
>Noelle sequence breaks with Kris to Ch7 Side B
>Weird route is obviously a speedrun using hidden glitches
>With the opening scene of creating a vessel and the CRT monitor scene at the end of Ch5 weird route, it's very very likely that Deltarune is a metagame
>in other words, we're playing Gaster's game by controlling SOUL who is controlling Kris who goes on to control SWORD_HERO
>Sword route culminates in the shelter with HERO_SWORD confronting (or attacking) Kris
>Kris actively resists and opposes SOUL
>Roaring knight isn't explicitly mentioned in the prophesy
>Noelle is the angel
>"THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL
FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE."
>"Only they can seal the fountains
And banish the ANGEL'S HEAVEN."
I'm pretty sure Kris is aware he's trapped in a game like fuckin the Truman show and is conspiring with whatever the fuck the knight is because they've devised some sort of plan to break out of the game. Kris gets furious during the weird route because not only are you ruining everything, you're speedrunning to the credits which IS the roaring. So by doing all this shit with the fountains and stuff, they're trying to break out of the game/simulation or whatever and find freedom or something idk
I'm probably a retard but this seems like it'll become the consensus
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>>572718990
Aqua CBT Simulator 202X
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>>572719058
TRANNY TORIEL
TRANNY TORIEL
TRANNY TORIEL
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>>572718989
fish status: wished
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>>572718735
Now that the parallels between Noelle and Ralsei are becoming blatant, I'm thinking maybe they should have been merged into the same character?
>"Ralselle" is a copy of Kris' childhood friend that justifies having Kris having unambiguous feelings for
>Susie is now infatuated with the same person that's both not real, thus creating a tragic lovers worlds apart scenario, and someone she legitimately is falling for
>Susellesei is immediately improved because of the above
>The love triangle in the group is now more explicit than ever
>Weird route thematics sort of still work seeing Ralsei is meant to have powers he doesn't want to use
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Imagine Aqua doing this to you with her flower cunny rubbing against the back of your neck
..
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Yellow is asgores sense of self guilt and desire for justice obviously
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>>572718927
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>>572718990
Undertale 2 is easily the best one
Do not be alarmed by the shitpost veneer it's just using the same tactics that Undertale (real) did
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>>572719030
>>572719046
There must be some good ones surely?
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>>572719086
No one wants hetslop
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>>572717405
Was Mad dummy ever called a guy in the first place? I always thought it used "They" when describing Mad dummy.
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>>572718716
that has nothing to do with me
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>>572719058
you gotta be on another level of schizo if you think 2 people looking annoyed implies some level of connection
they don't even look alike
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>>572719058
Nta but he has it so he can make the negro gif face
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>>572718910
Flowery is now a harem protagonist, the one guy surrounded by girls and two enbies.
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>>572710785
https://youtu.be/ybFFHNhVQ2s
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>>572719124
>Roaring knight isn't explicitly mentioned in the prophesy
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>>572718910
>claiming yellow is one of the least popular flowers because he's gay
>Yellow is one of the most popular flowers
This is what a professional victim looks like
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>>572719170
tag: both_sexes_in_same_position
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>>572718990
Yellow is hated by this general but i played it after seeing threads for it on /v/ and i thought it was pretty epic
Back in the day there were so many shitty ut fangames so i was really impressed at the increase in quality over the years
Its also referenced in chapter 5 which makes it extra special
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Kris really be like
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT MAKE ME HUG MY FRIENDS FUUUUUUUUUUUU-
>Actually yeah I don't really like the skeleton either. He gives me a weird vibe.
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>>572718689
Why should I care about your sexual inclinations?
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>>572719113
There's nothing wrong with people you think are ugly being in love.
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>>572719271
That's Kris btw
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>>572718735
i like ralsusie but it's not quite as compelling as sukris or kralsei

>>572718992
people hate femboys too. if they didn't, tralsei stuff wouldn't be so popular
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>>572719218
the ghost possessing the dummy was born ghost gendered and transitioned into a woman
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>>572718992
Tobyverse isnt fit for gay men. This aint Lisa.
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>>572719348
joseph bulkin.....
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Three Save files are not enough.
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>>572719338
You guys don't like UT Yellow?
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>>572719169
what do blue and yellow together represent of asgore then
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>>572719348
You tell me, you replied on your own volition
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>>572718910
Yellow is beloved as he is, but nobody likes ballerina Floyd. Only works as het.
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>>572718647
>likes to cook
Both Asgore and Toriel cooked when they were together and we know that Carol cooks for Noelle too. All of the parents cook. Green is specifically mentioned to make holiday cookies.
Blue has a lot in common with Toriel in terms of personality especially if you see him as Asgore's idealized version of Toriel. Articulate, graceful, slightly condescending, has a sixth sense for when Kris is up to something they shouldn't be doing. Also he basically orbits Yellow because Asgore really wants Toriel to love him like she used to.
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>>572719218
Undertale ghosts don't seem to have a biological sex. It's never said how they reproduce, but I like to imagine they spread ghostly spores.
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>>572719362
>in love
Let me stop you right there
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>>572718551
No
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weird route won
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>>572719471
I like blue the way he is
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>>572719131
...If someone actually made an Aqua game where she Is playing with your cock and balls and It ends up advancing to cbt I would cum to It daily
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>>572719263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQpEnN6bxxw
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>>572719442
T
E D I T O R
N
N
A
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>>572718959
retard
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>>572718841
Toby can't make me care about Noelle no matter how hard he tries
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>>572718841
Well yeah. No one else matters.

>becomes evil
At the surface level maybe. In WR, she's psychotic, but not necessarily evil: you have to consider she has a goal, and she tried so many times to make Kris change. But you could see the cracks under the mask forming in the NR already.
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>>572718402
You feel cheated every time you have a wet dream that isn't about you
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Cunnyfags don't want Blue to be Toriel because it disproves their retarded theory that Kris has a pussy because Aqua supposedly has one.
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>>572719486
>asgore wants tori to have a bbc
wtfbased?
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genuinely what the fuck happened why did the thread get 100+ replies and turn to shit in like 20 minutes
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Im calling it now:
With how much Ralsie was acting up in this chapter, I feel like he's a secret antagonist where sealing the dark fountains (and keeping his open) keeps giving his more and more power while all the Darkners there never turn to stone (remember, those outside of their realm turn to stone if gone from there too long)
Notice how he calls all the Darkners we show mercy to "Followers" instead of "Friends"
I feel like he is somehow gonna be extremely powerful to the point where everything we were told about the world being covered in darkness is false and that he just wants all the darkness that we stop for himself
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>>572719414
I like how they're drawn here. Artist?
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>>572719271
Yea that's Kris
And whoever said the human in the prophecy isn't the player?
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>>572719578
Hey you should post your hand for all the new friends on our thread!
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>>572719175
This one?
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https://youtu.be/OPoTqWlHY3k
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>>572719486
every single word you just said is cope, there is no connection between toriel and blue and those faces don't even look the same other than both being slightly annoyed
>carol cooks
fucking lmao carols at work all day that bitch doesn't cook shit, and having carol as the embodiment of kindness is so many levels of wrong even from asgores perspective
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>>572719685
Latin America woke up...
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>>572719453
I liked UT Yellow, I just don't understand Yellow fans who were enamoured by the game. Althought at this point UTY fans have transitioned fully into a new brand of fans of fanfiction loosely based on Undertale.
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>>572719216
You know you're wrong
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Chapter 3 isnt Dragon Blazers, its Mantle.
If it was Dragon Blazers Susie would have recognized it.
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>>572719672
probably the most retarded headcanon possible. well done
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>>572718990
Ribbit
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>>572718376
Why should anyone care that you feel such a way?
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>>572719486
Blue's character flaw is also being too sure of himself and never asking for permission or apologizing and that's Toriel
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>>572719686
He's gonna be powerful enough to say slurs by Chapter 7
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I love ralsusie
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>>572719820
blues character flaw is being a faggot
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>>572719793
>If it was Dragon Blazers Susie would have recognized it.
Didn't she then later admit to having never played the game?
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>>572719809
ralsei posted this
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How do you fags cope when Toby forced soriel on your playthrough?
Did you cry for the hetgem?
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>>572719124
>(you're playing Dragon Blazers in the sword route)
You aren't, Dragon Blazers is canonically turn-based and the Sweepstakes ARG is non-canon. Mantle is a different game.
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>>572718294
What's in it for me in exchange for upvoting this post?
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>>572719793
>kris
>accountability
rules for thee and not for me
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>>572719701
That one
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>>572719687
loopsybell
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>>572719672
They're idealized versions. Asgore wishes his daughter would have stayed a cute little girl instead of becoming an androgynous freak, and that his wife would have a cock like his best friend.
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>>572719259
Green is they/them and silent so Asgore can better self insert as them, not because theyre nonbinary
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>>572719831
Ralsei will say niggerfaggot and royal science gets canceled, thus banishing the angel's heaven
>t. final prophecy
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>>572718551
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>>572719793
did kris really say this?
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>>572719871
One Girl One Darkner
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>>572719471
>"nobody likes Blue"
literally the only people bemoaning this character are chuds mind broken by African facial features
>floyd
It's been 5 years you need to get new "jokes"
>>572719659
>"okay Noelle's not evil"
>"she just explicitly stopped seeing the people around her as people and her reality as something to be broken for her amusement"
>"YES these are the traits of a psychopath but like come on there's like a hecking nuance"
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>>572719162
>>The love triangle in the group is now more explicit than ever
This is supposed to be a good thing somehow?
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>>572719981
green is a she I do not care what the game says
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>>572719047
>>572719348
>>572719809
you good bro?
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>>572718261
What are your issues worth?
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>>572719963
sick mate thanks
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>>572719976
>They're idealized versions.
That's your headcanon. Nowhere in the game is it said or implied that they're "idealized" representations of people in his life. Rather, they're very distorted amalgamates of stuff they heard Asgore say over the years or his feelings
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>>572720029
>Susie and Ralsei play PS4 games.png
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>>572720084
I mean, ask Toby fox, it's already happening in the first place might as well optimize it.
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>>572719486
>>572719734
Asriel is green, Toriel is purple
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>>572719471
I don't like love him but the hate for him is hugely overblown because his portrait is so goddamn weird. He's a damn flower for God's sake, of course he's as ballerina faggotty as they come.
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>>572718990
there used to be an amazing flash game about working at grillbys on the surface
it was basically cooking mama except with way more interactivity and actual banter between characters and a story
i have literally been looking for this game again for the past decade and have never ever been able to find it
it was unreasonable high quality not just for flash but when you consider that undertale fanworks at the time was shit like "sans i need youre dark soul to revive gaster" fic nonsense
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>>572719734
>carol doesnt cook
Nice try /v/irgin, try playing the game next time
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>>572720089
>i do not care what the game says
self insert fags be like
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None of the Flowers correlate to anything they're just random characters that randomly showed up to do bits
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is blue and yellow bbcpilled or bwcpilled?
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>>572718551
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>>572720152
I think you're taking this moment too literally
asgore is just, toriel is wise, asriel is kind and kris is patient
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>>572720152
So Toriel is in love with Berdley? Make it make sense
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>>572718218
If you wanted good faith arguments you'd stop coming to 4chan
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>>572719696
You're still hot and bothered about having seen my hand almost an entire year ago?
I'd love you know more about your life if I'm being honest, lets put aside me for a moment. Explain yourself.
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Susie = Dess
Ralsei = Asriel and Kris's bull who steals Susie from them
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https://hometownlibrarby.tumblr.com/post/727341025938538496

Remembering this thing from the ch2 era where Catti appears alongside some very important characters in a short list where portrait sprites filenames are done with a single initial rather than a full name and that turning out to mean absolutely nothing.
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did anyone draw flowery in the golden freddy pose yet
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The Flowers correlate to colors of the spectrum.
For example
The Yellow flower is Yellow.
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>>572720097
About as much as your complaints of people not liking Susie and Noelle's pairing. :)
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>>572720186
>>572720065
Really more like Pucci than Floyd
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>>572720278
I'll explain ONLY if you post your hand right here and now!
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>>572720186
Do you think Flowery is fucking every single one of these
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>>572720329
So we're really just saying shit now aren't we?
Fuck off with your headcanons.
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if you think toriel is meant to be blue then you confirm that asgore is both gay and blacked
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>>572719696
Vagueslop has even affected threadpillar drama... This is just like...
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>>572718196
Asgore isn't real. Nobody communicates with him.
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>>572720359
kek same
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>>572720329
holy fuck we solved deltarune
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>>572719419
>>572719501
I always wondered if I missed something since a bunch of discourse and fanart of Mad Dummy and MewMew involved them being intersex, thanksa Anons.
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>>572720325
weird route noelle fallen angel (she has no wings) vs dragon susie (she has wings)
when
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>>572720359
TRUE honestly Alvin not being a major character robbed us of Pucci posting
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>>572718990
Don't even bother.
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>>572720418
They represent the soul colours, they don't have to be the same gender
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chuds think they're the good guys when their entire philosophy revolves around belittling and oppressing minorities and their comedy revolves around mocking the dead
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>>572719871
So this is the gameplay that was meant to be in Blood Crushers?
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>>572720357
My complaints are worth negative ten million dollars. enjoy poverty
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>>572720226
this is the most likely explanation desu
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>>572718990
Nothing else really feels like a toby game if that's what you're hoping for
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>>572720528
>Used the word chud unironicly on 4chan
lmao
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>>572720528
i will eat all the wokies in the world and then digest them
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>>572720524
>they don't have to be the same gender
wrong, souls have genders too anon
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>>572720528
Throwing stones in glass houses
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>>572720418
>obsessed with bbc sodomy
why are chuds obsessed with shoving their fetishes in our faces?
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>>572719672
it really is no deeper than that desu
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How did Susies broke ass play Dragon Blazers 1-5?
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>>572720696
She only played 2 because she swiped it from the lost and found
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>>572719871
Elaborate
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>>572720679
this is a little different as ckrik was a racist, homophobic, etc. all around a bad person, most of the dead people right wingers mock are normal and have never harmed anyone, they just happened to be brown and in front of a cop (or they were a woman in front of a cop or something)
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>>572720696
she watched gameplay videos at the library
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>>572720359
He reminded me of this guy from FMA. Way, way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more of a flaming faggot but he's got the sideburns and the fake dread thing.

>>572719734
If you don't get that Yellow and Blue are very clearly Asgore and Toriel there's no hope for you. Green being Asriel is perhaps a little weird but seeing as how the other three here >>572720152 are so crystal clear, I think we're missing some info on his DR self. Green also reminds me a little bit of Ralsei so there might be that, not everything needs to be literal, Rudy wasn't an human nor an anime character.
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>>572720265
Sorry you had to find out this way, Kris
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>>572720089
Based
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>>572720696
Susie only played Dragon Blazers 2, and I think it's implied it was on a borrowed console or copy
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>>572720804
It's just Asgore's projecting, they're not actually the same souls anon
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>>572720794
did you spare undyne in undertale?
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second bulkiest kris design i've seen (i cannot find the first)
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>>572720790
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>>572720693
SEAmonkeys are home for the evening, this is usually their handiwork.
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>>572720804
>if you don't believe my schizo headcanon then there's no hope for you
great, thanks for playing
anyway none of the flowers represent asgore, they are all asgores relationships with other people. He does not have a relationship with himself.
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>>572720152
Toby is retarded for not making this consistent
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>>572720924
ENTER
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>>572720794
He isn't interested in sincere discussion I wouldn't bother
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>>572720904
I mean of course, goes without saying this is just Asgore's mind.
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>>572720790
Soft femboy meets Strong as nails Tomboy, What more do you need?
They complement each other and work on each other's shared flaws to become a better whole.
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Do you guys like when people draw Susie as sorta like a big seal
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>>572720065
>"YES these are the traits of a psychopath but like come on there's like a hecking nuance"
There is nuance. Put yourself in her sh- hooves. Wouldn't you like to free yourself from a fake weird world that only caused pain and suffering? The nuance is between being suicidal and seeing a breach in the inner workings of the world she's in.
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>>572720990
holy shit this is it thank you
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STRAIGHTENING PETALS OUT WITHOUT A PLAN
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>>572719734
Take it up with Toby, Carol canonically cooks dinner since she has to tell Noelle when she'll be home too late to cook dinner
>... Huh? No problem, I can probably just cook something.
>Gosh, mom, I'm not going to burn myself!
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how does kris hide his dick in the dark world does he code geass it away...?
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>>572720953
Yellow represents things he's feeling. Self-hatred and a wish for justice. He's an ex-cop.
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>>572721030
sealsie is peak
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>>572721014
i bet these two explore each other's bodies
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>>572721151
>>572721151
>>572721151
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>>572720528
good point invalidated by usage of safe edgy pseudoword
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>>572719907
No? She said she only played the second one which is the only one she ever talks about
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>>572721142
if only there was another cop character who's close to asgore, has homosexual tendencies and has a love for justice
perhaps some kind of spear of justice maybe
sad there isn't anyone like that in deltarune
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>Asgore thinks of Asriel as Perseverance (Extreme nerd but dogged at his pursuit of it), Toriel as Integrity (Always doing the right thing, never wrong) and Kris as Patience (?)
>Asriel is actually Kindness, Toriel is actually Perseverance and Kris is actually Patience-into-Determination
Much to think about
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>90% of toby time is having fun and being indulgent about his hobbies
>10% of the time is caring about irl politics

his fanbase
>101% of their time is discussing politics and shit
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>>572721143
She looks like Hanks big dumb friend from Venture Bros
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>>572720790
If I could make my own Deltarune I'd rewrite the story where it's an impossible love between the Rals equivalent and the Sus equivalent
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Can someone make an actual thread
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>>572721131
Bought some tuck friendly underwear from the kids' Pride month collection.
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>>572718086
Only retards "hate" Suselle. I'm just apathetic towards it because yurislop is oversaturated and panders to transbians while being "safe" for straights. I'm honestly kind of shocked Toby had the balls to make a MxM romance so central to part 5.
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>>572720418
Rudy says Asgore is a fruit and I believe him
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>>572721318
We have one right here, comrade!!

>>572721151
>>572721151
>>572721151
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>>572720679
Personally I found the grave dancing distasteful and as awful as I found the man to be in life I think a his needless death being celebrated speaks to the wider social ills we face as many people across the political spectrum become more radicalized via online spaces and the news cycle. Of course "two wrongs don't make a right" and this doesn't retroactively make the chuds cheering every time a black guy gets shot or a tranny seppukus. Of course you also know that and just are looking for reason to justify your own sociopathic behavior.
>>572720931
I'm not brown and I will not sodomize you sorry chuddy
>>572720804
Some people are trolling and some people are too retarded to understand allegory/symbolism and neither of them are worth engaging with
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>>572720794
>Family man with virtue DESERVED TO DIE for having different opinions of me and mocking his death is ACTUALLY a good thing chud
>Drug addict going in and out of prison who committed armed robbery on a pregnant woman by pointing a gun at her child is an innocent soul and the ebil rebublicans mocking his death is the worst thing ever
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>>572710662
>Deltarune Piece.
One Soul.
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>>572713867
>is pink going to be referenced in the future or cause any implication? we don't even pick her up and take her to the dark fountain in the school.
> does the interpretation of the game or role someone has fundamentally change after having beaten pink, that wouldn't be missed if it was removed from the game?
She says she will meet you in Castle Town. Mettaton and Asgore are very likely candidates to relate to her, specially because giving Tenna to MTT is another optional way of mending a Lightner's dream the way you do with schizo Pink, and the only reason she hops onto the Dark World is because she's been reluctantly admiring Asgore from her gloomy house.

> does the interpretation of the game or role someone has fundamentally change after having beaten pink, that wouldn't be missed if it was removed from the game?
Motherfucker, you really missed her whole theme song's lyrics being full of ominous conspiratorial statements???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkUTuN8Nlis

>"the world's massacre, this time beneath the water"

And a bunch of these also relate to the Mew Mew opening we saw like 9 years ago in the Switch trailer. And the weird lake and dungeon we go through during the CH 3 route. I've even seen some people say that weird pink singing rabbit you fight is supposed to paralell her. I get why you'd be underwhelmed but pay more attention!
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>>572721254
I think Undyne is Orange because these characters are based on younger versions of people as they were during Asgore's youth and he also knows Undyne within this timeline. I doubt she was ever as self-hating as Yellow.
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>>572719124
Kris is angry at you because you're ruining the plan/prophecy. Weird route completely skips chapter 5 which means flowerman trapped in asylum never occurs since Kris doesn't make the dark fountain. It's actively hampering the prophecy.
>The Knight can make the dark fountain
Kris is the only one capable of sealing the fountain, meaning the world will end if the Knight makes a fountain when Kris is sinking. Both Knight and Kris seem to be working towards the prophecy, so I don't think they want to start the roaring before everything falls into place.
Weird route being a sequence break is the most likely thing but the real question is why does the player want to do it. Something in chapter 6 will occur that makes the player want to skip it at any cost.
Considering that Kris finished the summoning ritual alone after Catti runs away and being duty bound to whatever promise was made, he's not actively trying to escape from us. Kris chose to become the vessel for a reason. Why would Kris look for freedom when he's the one that locked the cage in the first place? Kris knows where the key is after all.
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>>572711183
The problem with Rudy Knight theory is that Black Knife is too awesome as a theme for Rudy of all characters being the current overarching villain
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>>572719932
>Sweepstakes ARG being non-canon

Does anyone actually believe that?

If anything Sweepstakes takes place in the world we see through the crystals. The world where Susie and Kris never became friends and Kris went through the Dark World with Noelle instead



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