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Sex with Beato...
bought this gamewhere the FUCK is vira
>>574243425Beyblade is a dps loss your retard. Yes, she can chase but her damage falls into the shitter. If you actually looked at parses you would see that she is never a top damage dealer even without Fedi on team.
>queue for slimepede 2.0>queue into nips that have instantly skipped the intro cutscene before I even loaded>run around hitting random slimes and not the celestial one>stand still at the end, not even ready up for more runsAm I playing with bots or something? All of them had the white color on their characters, is this nipper running 3 pc just to farm slimpede?
>parsing in this baby gameEmbarrassing.
Where the fuck do I go to grind Damage Cap sigilsI need an obscene amount of them as fodder for synthesis, max mastery level pretty much requires me to redo my whole ass setup
>Me and a few friends on Defy Infinity>Me as Face Tank Beatrix, and the others as Fraux, Offensive Bea, and Io>Destroy The World, Beelzebub, Bahamut so far before taking a lunch breakI thought Defy was supposed to be hard? Lucilius might be annoying but I hear he's easier than Zero?
>ora>ora>ora>oraWe timed out
>>574244610they drop all over but I get most of mine from transmutation. every rack of 100 I'll get 2-3
>>574244635As long as everyone is properly geared and can do the mechanics the infinity missions aren't that impossible. The time limits are strict but not completely unforgiving and the bar is currently at even someone solo with non-maxed out AI can do it. I think your group will probably breeze through the last two although luci's HP cut makes him the only one of the 5 you probably shouldn't be face-tanking
>>574244610>Where the fuck do I go to grind Damage Cap sigilsBase game; The Tale of Bahamut's Rage (proud)IDK if there is a better DLC quest.
he finished it bros
I love bosse that run away to do easy to dodge mechanics with characters that have gauges to manage. So fun.
15$ game quality90$ price tag
>>574246538all worth it
>>574246538Relink is one of the few games in this genre that's actually worth the price tag desuCore gameplay is just very fun and satisfying, I wish Endless Ragnarok had more new fights and meatier story but even just Relink But More is still really fun
>>574246218play no gauge niggas then
>Don't worry guys there will be some skins added to the game>Game will likely be dead by then with only maybe one extra boss and a new character Skins should have been in this expansion...
UNBIRIBABOO
>>574246990Beatrix will be stuffed into a tight swimsuit and sold for pocket change to boost player retention
Shield or Skill spam Maglielle?
>>574246990Of all the retarded shit Cygames did, this is not even in top 50.
>>574246990bea and zeta need their halloween costumes
>>574247463shield to completely trivialize the game for the entire party, like every defensive buffer
>Mage Awakening and Fearless Soul in the same batchouhhhfg
>>574244635Qrd on the beas. Im only m20
How do I get my XXXY finisher to glow pink for Maglielle? No idea how this mechanic works for her.
>>574248269You hold it, the bigger the target the easier
>>574248071Invest in her Mastery Trait 2 tree. At level three you get access to overclock mode, which involves going into Devour Casualty with all three buffs active (do a finisher hit in each mode...red, yellow, green). When you clock is fully and you have all three buffs, Devour will auto activate upon the finisher of w/e stance you are in. After that you keep doing your combos for 10 hits and Overclock will activate allowing you to spam finishers than hone in on the boss over and over again until it runs out. Bea is more or less unkillable in this mode (Golden Clock spinning wildly). After it runs out, rinse and repeat. Sounds tedious but becomes second nature after a bit.
>>574248269hold over enemies, it'll turn pink after it hits them enough. if you have supp dmg, it turns pink faster. spartan and berserker echo do not work. i don't know if other supp sources work. if the boss is close, you can pull back on the stick to hold it in front of you for a bit, the swords are completely drunk otherwise and will go off to the right
>no Galleonbruh
>>574244635None of them are hard except faa if you can't nuke him from phase to phase and actually have to try and guess what the fuck is happening on the screen
>get 2 spartan soul summons in a row>both with 1800 hpEh, whatever I'll take it.
Just beat the chaos+ white dragon quest, that was pretty fun. People keep saying chaos++ is the difficulty spike, anything I should be building towards in specific? I'm just maxing out my main and ignoring my CPU builds and things are going fine so far.
I'm still new to the game. Could someone give me a tip on using Yoda's parry? It's easy enough to land but I just generally eat shit right after a successful one anyways.
Siete bros, teach me how to play Siete...
Damn didnt know bea got a 5*
>>574249368That cracker is harder than most Chaos++ enemies, some with the fire Quakedille
Do people really stick both Guts/Autorevive on their NPC characters?I might just do it, because they are down too often.
>>574249541Yeah you get the sigil? that gives you iframes on his combo finisher
>>574247463Skill spam, shield is the floor tank build>>574247769shield build make her shields useless just so she can have cap increases, the ones that spams shield is the skill build with caduceus
>>574243429Is Song's rotation on targets too small to shotgun really just spamming XXYY until you get full Hail?
What's the difference between fully maxed terminus vs fully maxed ascension weapon? or are both pretty viable?
Stasis Field! Stasis Field! Stasis Field! Stasis Field!
>cant Trade All character sigilsWHYI HAVE LIKE 1000 OF THEM FROM THE FUCKING GACHA BRID
>>574243429Can someone explain to me why they nerfed Charlotta's homing Y and made her linear vertical downward stab that sometimes misses Dragons if they're being forced to jerk about by an SBA chain? Did they forget they made all bosses in this game jump all over the place?
A narmayacuck just ruined my lobby how do you fucks dealt with this for over 2 years?
Finally got a FoF+ to drop, really happy with the trait.
>>574249770Yeah and the fate episode is her backstory.Pretty good read imo.
Lobby doko?
>finally saw a Seofon>fucker keep dyingENOUGH with the holding back
>>574243429Could they have made Defy Infinity any more fucking annoying? Beezlebub is a fucking warcrime
>>574249819Seriously? That's a good sign then. It did feel like a step up from the other dragons for sure, but it was a pretty smooth and fun fight.I've been S++ing everything while only upgrading Siegfried while my CPUs are basically at base game endgame Terminus builds. I guess I'll see how much longer I can keep doing this since I definitely can't afford to upgrade everybody's stuff yet. Also not sure what I'm gonna want my CPU team to be now.Also, I'm already getting summon drops that seem pretty great. Should I start using these new celestial drops or do they require high stats?
>>574250386>terminus-higher damage cap-innate damage cap 15>ascension-better sigil booster-innate supplementary damage 15Terminus is better but considering how diluted damage cap has become, both are very viable.
>>574244092Finally people are talking about this, not to mention how brain numbing it is, at least beyblade looked and felt cool, personally I wish they'd just buff her ground infinite auto because I want to stand still for a bit, damn
>>574248269at the end of the arc is a weapon spinning and it is smaller for the three x combo than other onesyou hold the spinning weapon in the enemyon the three x combo version it drifts away from you so you pull it back into the enemyfor weaker enemies try a one or two x combo where the spinny part is largerBTW is it worth it in npc party to have a character dedicated to stun with no dmg cap sigils? I've been using all the newer characters that don't have stunner weapons. will a stun character help with bosses that have stupidly long overdrive?
>>574251178>defy infinityMore like defy visibility
>>574244635How do you build face tank Beatrix? Also doesn't face tanking Bubs get your HP nerfed?
>>574250112He always has i frames on his finishers? But I can't go right into it after a parry. Are these not all his character specific sigils?
>>574251564You're thinking of faa and yesIt also randomly bricks your run with skill and sb sealed
Non-infinity missions also drop the higher % sub effect summons, like this babu-san I got from the proud++ version. Since you can afk the proud++ versions of babu, za waarudo and rushifaa that's a potentially less painful way of getting the summons.
>>574251475Another thing no one seems to mention, My Charlotta fucking disappears under all the effects and I get one shot
>>574251671Oh my bad I remembered wrong>I cant go into it rigth after parryAre you sure you didn't block?
>>574251709No, it's Bubs, Faa-san might do it too but I haven't tried him yet but I'm so ass at Bubs my HP was eventually below base game endgame levels
>>574251952Disable VFX and set silhouette to dark if you haven't, should help.
>>574250527I bet its a chink fuck. I failed my chaos + fire rolling boss multiple times yesterday because of one
>>574252110I only dud bubs once so I might have missed it, or is it tied to some special moves?
>>574246990All I'm asking for is Fraux to get her fancy dress skin from her uncap. Probably eaiser to model considering her hair is tied up.Aldo Eugens grand skin with the sick ass coat would be baller.
>>574250534Is that worth over improve dodge?
>bots too stupid to not get hit by sumo crabSad.
>>574251469>BTW is it worth it in npc party to have a character dedicated to stun with no dmg cap sigils?I don't know the answer but I do know is whoever decided the Defy Infinity fights needed to have stun checks just made building a character even more boring than it already is, I don't mind stun but making actual stun checks is cancer, I don't even bother to bring Song into Bubs because I hear her Stun is awful
>>574250534>inflicts dmg downHuh? didn't it straight up cut your atk in half before?
any lobbies? no I refuse to make one
>>574252572Yes, now it's only after you use the effect, I think for 6 seconds. I'd still build for 200% cap anyway if you plan on using it though.
>>574252734Remember that it's a modifier that hits after all of your damage is taken into account. There's no way to avoid the damage loss.
Lobby KOKOID: FT1P 3EHN DBTL MGSCPass: ChatNoirDoing whatever>>574252608>>574250630
>>574251469Charlotta players got it good this expansion>Best DPS combo can whiff, especially if boss moves away>Best DPS combo can sometimes whiff if Boss jerks about on the spot during SBA>Barely get to even use it because BOSSES DO NOT STAND FUCKING STILL>It's a really fucking boring playstyle, why cant we use our autos and try to keep Valiant up without getting hit?>SBA generation is AWFUL now
>>574250534is that DMG down before or after damage cap?
>>574253126after
>>574253035>>Best DPS combo can whiff, especially if boss moves away>>Best DPS combo can sometimes whiff if Boss jerks about on the spot during SBA>>Barely get to even use it because BOSSES DO NOT STAND FUCKING STILLLiterally every melee character>SBA generation is AWFUL nowAnd that's the consequence
Can you perfect guard the aoe circles?
>>574252110Bubs nerfs your max HP when you fall down from the arena so outside of his fuck off attack you can face tank the remaing moves, maybe.
>>574253245Yes
>>574243429I hope if we get Six thrown at us again he brings along Sarasa this time. If people want to keep mentioning Monster Hunter with this game, I would like my switch axe then.
Which master trait style are you guys running on Maglielle? The shield one?
>>574253396We need a th9 rep
>>574253447Speaking of Maggy, is she even anywhere near Song's DPS? Who is the current top 3? Fediel, Charlotta and Sieg?
Fedbros, whats better for her, fully transcended terminus or fuly transcended ascension (rose)?
>>574253771terminus is better for litteraly everyone
>>574252415She’ll get super spats’d due to the hip cut outs and thigh slit if they do that.
Finally killed infinifaa, fuck that fightHow much worse is hexa compared to the base version? The other fights didn't seem to bad
>>574253997hexa is easier but the dps check is a bitch if you are not pulling at least 250m on dummy
Why did they ruin slimeblasting again? The base game version was fun because you used Eugen to just one shot everything and laser shit loads and now they're so fucking tanky it's awful
>>574252037Yes. I get the buff for supp damage and then I have to at least do the final light attack in the combo before I can use the finisher. I can dodge cancel the light into the finisher but there's still so much vulnerability doing that. I know it's probably a skill issue but I'm thinking I might just use flight over fight. I swear I saw a video where you could parry and perfect dodge at the same time to trigger both.
>>574253969I want to see the night sky...
>>574243743Sir put that away
>>574253997Much easier than Faa.
I don't understand Beatrix's clock mechanic, why would I ever not stay in the DPS part? Also it's janky as fuck to actually use
>>574252954Room's full? I can't find it.
>>574254354Because Yellow Gives you permanent Stout Heart and even more defense so you can maintain 100% uptime grug smashing through everything and ignoring anything that doesn’t instant kill you.
I can't decide what should fill my last slot on Vane.
man why did they have to make the no pet buff at max stacks so short for Ferry. It's so annoying trying to keep it up.
>>574254192Oh, nevermind, you're right. But you can dodge out of the parry and keep your combo status so that's the way to do against multihit stuff. I don't think you can dodge the same attack you parried
>>574254426Full
>keep getting one shot on Defy Infinity onlineThis is FFXIV PF stress all over again, guess I'll just build good AIs so I can learn the fights
>>574243429Can Wee Pincer III (from defy Hexa Hierach) have Immortal shell?I got one with Crabby Resonance so im curious if I should keep farming. Also HH is the easiest boss of the defy bosses imo
>>574250039Please respond.
Is there some trick to bea clock switching? It feels super clunky if I do it after the normal combo finisher. It's way smoother after the causailty one>>574254720Just get some hp/def so you can actually learn the fight rather than dying to everything
>>574254354Green Regen is really good specially when potions dont heal you to full anymoreYellow Clock gives you Immunity to Knockback and tankyness, so you can stick to the boss and smash disregarding everythingYeah you can try doing that on Red clock for more damage, but you will very quickly understand why it's not a good idea, only go for red clock if the boss isnt attacking so you dont have to worry about getting pushed away.
>>574254547But what's the DPS loss, I keep timing out on Bubs Infinity and I dunno if it's me or what but I doubt I should be making it worse
>>574254827CPUs are dodge gods so its not usually needed. Unless you have Stout Heart summon so AI turns stupid and decides tanking hits is fine.
>>574254867>>574254547Is Bea's super causality tree herb est one? I assume it gives her the buffs from everything right?
>>574254895There's no bigger dps loss than not attacking at all because you need to dodge or block
Anyone down for some infinity farming?Randoms are failing me too often...Room ID: 2D4N WU60 0FL7Pw: gbvsg
>>574255036Currently doing Conflux 3 and they are constantly going down, despite running improved dodge and the 2 dodge sigils that give more invincibility window.
>>574254867....can't decide if Beatrix's design is good not when Siegfried just exists
>>574255171You do know you can block mid combo and if it's a perfect block it won't break your animation or combo?It even works on skills.
>>574254827been afking the world for a bit and it helps to smooth the run for both the FA character and CPU companions because they can't do mechs (like the death card) and there's some floor DoT attacks they can't trigger dodges on and often eat shit to
Yoda's mirrors are the most OP support in the entiregame
>have to do hexa infinity for my terminus' final awakening stepGod please help me
>>574253969Close it off, make dress lower and I'll be fine. Personally never hates spats but if they have to modify it the only thing I'd like to remain is her chest area since that's the best part for me.
>>574255368If you are a god at this game then every suggestion is irrelevant. Just perfect block everything then.
>>574255576I'll race you to it
>>574255368Yeah but why play Bear at that point. Just play Neechang, Vas, or Id.
What is Tweyen's best dps rotation on targets to small for shotgun? And 2 Crown is viable in Infinity right? Seeing as they'll usually last that long
>>574252954Can i just if im still in chaos?
Flies away flies away flies away flies away Flies away flies away flies away flies away Flies away flies away flies away flies away Flies away flies away flies away flies away Flies away flies away flies away flies away
>>574255968I wouldn't mind personally, however we're full. If a spot opens up I'll reply to you.
Every Narm I've ever met online has been an absolute psychopath, very good players but still complete lunatics
Relink devs design a fight without wind pressure mechanics challenge
>>574255576People are doing it even with just the AI, so I believe you can do beat him to
>>574256317I can't be bothered grinding 3 other Terminus tier characters with full sigils just for AI purposes
>>574256020FLY AWAY NOWFLY AWAY NOWFLY AWAYYYY
What is the attack beelzebub does during his final 15% enrage sequence where he just teleports to you, inflicts dizzy, and then does some launcher into juggle combo and blasts you off the edgeI got hit with it twice and I figure I must have just got hit by an orb bind that I didn't see. But I just did him again and I'm 100% sure I didn't get orbed and he still just did it to me. Does he just randomly select a player and tell them to go and fuck themself during this or is there something I'm missing
>>574255186full?
I have never played anything GBF related before Relink, and I think I've fallen in love with Beatrix. I want to marry her....
>>574256682It's the orbs. They can still hit you if he throws them at someone else, especually if you're in melee range and jumping around
>>574256784For me its Racing Suit Bea
>>574252443I run both like the disgusting degenerate I am
Whats the optimal PWR to borrow people for infinity? I'm seeing a lot of super high PWR AI that cross into 65k have berserker for instance so I can't really trust that and I just want to know what PWR an AI should be. I already know to weed out anyone without at least 280 ideally 300+ stun and any AI not holding a termie weapon but what else should I look for?>>574256497Technically you only need 2 and can borrow the last but all I'm saying is the bar to clear hexa infinity is in hell, its not that bad and generally players do better than AI so you'll be fine
>>574256580Panty and Stocking was fun.
>>574256784
>>574256943Series 2 was so bad I didn't even finish it
>>574257108I don't remember too much about it aside from some funny moments, and Stocking killing Panty at the end or w/e kek.
>>574256942Anything with higher than 110k attack is trying to trick you
>*protects you*You will NOT suffer from status effects You will NOT take full damage from attacks I WILL drop everything to go revive you, alwaysYou WILL be protected, motherfucker
>>574256942PWR isn't real. Make sure they have the right skills and master traits for their character. Also all the core sigils (not on your summons) and nimble onslaught/defense ofc.
>>574257062Well...she is a Bear.
>>574256784Same bro same
>>574255576Hexa is the second easiest fight though
>>574257412How do i build him. I was going all in on Vane as my bot provoker but he looks cool with the mask on
has anyone done hard numbers on cpu power for dlc?
What's the tweyen mastery trait status? I've been using the multilock one just because it plays more or less the same as OG relink tweyen. Are the other two any good?
>>574256780No one joined yet.Maybe the servers are fucked again...
>>574257412should I just max quick cooldown and cascade on him for the most skill uptime? I'm assuming he gets good value on cascade
>do infinity hexa>random quest failedhuh?
>>574257583That's the thing, you have to beat all the harder fights to unlock it.
>Randomly looking on yt for some background noise Infinity Streams while I work on cleaning my home office>See thisKek
>>574257812Unless you have enough room to do so you shouldn't use more than one quick cooldown/cascade sigil.The diminishing returns from levels beyond 15 just aren't worth it.
>>574257861What's the point of terminus weapons then if everything was already cleared by then?
>>574257861Oh I thought you were done with themGodspeed
>>574258130Hoping that something worthwhile comes post launch.
Jita players owe me sex
What's a good tier list to use as reference?I know fediel is top but I'm interested in seeing the average standing of others
Hired a rosetta bot and man I think might be missing out. Not sure why but she felt consistent in the buffing/debuffing, damage was good and despite my other AI also having the same level of uplift she was always 10-20% ahead of everyone. Any other AI I've missed that don't get talked about a lot?
>play essence beatrix>decide to try out the master trait that gives shield when drain is triggered on full hp on green clockI thought I already achieved peak unga, but I was so wrong. This trait makes her even more unga.
>>574258332
>>574258332Djeeta IS for sex.
where is my relink relief ace
>>574257969that's how you know bea enjoyers are dedicated.
I think djeeta's ass
>>574240328GGs brosBubs is such a bullshit, even harder than faa imo
>>574258482Isn't that only once until you switch clock?
>>574258834WHY is it so BIG?
>>574258889When you're in gold clock mode, all clock bonuses trigger, so you get that shield during it.
>>574240328GG bros, the infinity gauntlet doesn't seem nearly as daunting when you have Yoda and Danchou soaking up a lot of the screen nukes.Lucilius can eat a back of dicks, thougheverbeit.
>Revenge of the Ooze is a proper upgrade over how boring the first slime quest was>>the quest for farming daybreak merits is just some bullshit
>>574257738are you on switch?
>>574258987ggs thanks for the host very cool
Post more of her
>>574257631I'm actually still deciding what my default build and style should be, aside from the mandatory stuff. I'm using the counter style. Dying all the time due to substitute can be kinda ass but you can burn your auto revive early on and you get free stacks, even if you die you're only penalized by having a one stack reduction instead of all them going poof like with the other styles. The stacks aren't timed either which is nice, spamming his counter is also nice. You can counter a lingering attack like an AoE, iframe through it with the counter animation, dodge on landing to get nimble sigil i-frames instantly and then get his perfect finisher after dodge cancelling in a totally safe way. As an AI well, I put that build up for people to hire and folks seem to appreciate it since my sieg actually got used a bunch so that's neat, you might like that on your team too. >>574257812Think I'm using one quick cooldown 15, it seems to be enough. Dragonslayer's Ingenuity is also good if you wanna use it to help cooldowns, but I recently removed it since I'm using the counter style for now and the defense abilities, counter gets free cooldown reduction. I don't remember if his skill spam style reduces skill cooldowns too so you might not need quick cooldown at all on him but im not sure.
>>574259078>are you on switch?PS4, but I had no issues playing with other platforms until today.I think it might really be the servers being cooked
>>574259410maybe wrong code or something. try remake the lobby
>>574258928Healthy young girl on her sprout growth
>>574259410the servers are fine
>>574259342Okay
>>574258928Lots of running and glute training from climbing and fighting
>>574257482Can you waifu a character even if you haven't experienced most of their games?
>>574259342Dunno which poster you're referring to but okay
>Chaos FurycaneWtf is this bullshit? When is it my party's turn to attick this faggot?
>>574259602*stares in tohuo*
>>574258928Because she's built for minotaurs and other monsters.
>>574259649You can always attack her except the time she flew away>but the attackJust dodge
Cunny ga iru! found all the crabs, is this sigil really worth it?
>none of the wikis ive seen have anything important in themi just wanna see the required mats for transcending the Ascension and Terminus...
>>574259520>try remake the lobbyI doubt it'll make a difference but okay.ID: GWSE Q0RD DLN4 U26WPW: gbvsg
>>574259952if you have access to litteraly every sigil combination you need it could be worth sloting if your character doesn't need many utility sigils, otherwise not really, it's dead last in prio for minmaxin
>no summer rolls this yearimout
>>574260097Not sure if the region matters but you're using no setting right?
>>574260097works but you also forgot the pw
>>574259952It would be worth if it only increased your damage by 10%, but it also gives you other bonuses on top soYeah it is
>>574259952If it's immortal shell it's pretty good to have since it's a 9% damage amp with drain Regen and some defense on top.
what is even the point of conflux 5
>Wondering how this sandy does does the giga clutch ougi timing every time>post battle screen>dude dc'd and it was AIAnd that's how I beat infinity hexa fo the first time...
If I have to choose between one or the other, Ventus is better than Terra, right?
>>574261017a way to farm mats
>>574261118not really, they went pretty hard on the farming quests
>>574259952Immortal shell? If you're running drain and regen its an easy one to slot in to get more benefit out of those slots. Its a good sigil>>574260025Ascension is easy to look up, theres packages for ascension transcendence up to 4 divided by element and then another one for just 5 and 6. Terminus is again divided by element but follows the same pattern of Ragnite(terminus), Fortitude(L) crystal, and the main material reward of quests from hexa chaos++ onward, with the sole exception of the final upgrade which requires 100 fortitude crystals(L) and the material drop from infinity hexa
Does improved guard improve the perfect guard window or is it placebo
>>574259024>>Revenge of the Ooze is a proper upgrade over how boring the first slime quest wasIt's just a worse version now because the slimes are tanky, I have almost endgame gear and I still tickle these things
holy fucking choke
You can only choose 1
>>574261707
Anyone got a spreadsheet of Tweyen's best build, including Mastery Trees and shit?
>>574260097full?
Why have there been so many connection issues these past couple of days?
>>574261403>improve the perfect guard windowNo, it's for shitter who can't stop holding their guard
>>574262095figured as much
>>574259602Of course you can. There is nothing stopping me from going back and playing them now
Quest to get some Silverslime summons?Bros?
>perfect blocking The World in the middle of Deadlands animation making it look like I punch parried his charge
>While inflicted with Burn: 100% damage capThey mean the enemy right? Why is this worded so poorly
>>574261017So bubs can job
>>574262604no it's when you are burned
>>574262771Tweyen's skill trees are ass and so is she
>>574263007Richi will self inflict burn and poison for the whole team while negating the dot and those nodes will be coreCORE
>>574263114
Where do I get Warpath+? Transmarvel?
>>574263261yes, sub skill is random and cant be changed
>>574263261Yeah but it also drops from most Chaos quests
Whos the most fun to pilot charge character? Io? Vas? Perci?
>>574263261Damage Cap and shit like this absolutely ruins gear building for me
What mastery rank dos my eustace both become useful for afk slimes?
>>574263385Idk about IOPerci is pretty simple but the new nodes might make him a bit more complexVase is peak and also giga frustrating when the boss desides to go somewhere else instead
>>574263385PerciYou are encouraged to spam his skillsHis charge doesnt take longYou are encouraged to parry with it, is not that hard, he has gorillon of frames to do so
>>574263362Really? I've never seen it drop and I've been farming a lot
I forgot how you even get a lot of transmarvel, was I supposed to use tickets for sigils?
>>574263804nah that guy is retarded and is confusing it with war elemental
>>574263873You aren't gonna like this but the answer is slime blastingIt all comes down to slimeblasting
Which of the new damage cap sigils are worth using? I've heard people save Lumen is a must-slot and Terra is not as good as it seems.
>>574264089Truly the GBF experience from 2016 or so
>>574264148Ventus, Lumen, and Aqua
>>574264148lumen, terra, aqua, ventus. nyx isnt usable, incendo is a worse fatebreaker.
>>574264483Nyx is usable if you're a retard bea enmity player or a vas player.
>>574264148Lumen big and pretty much freeVentus is also prety freeI've seen some people do 1 hp shield builds so I guess they run terra and nyx. Prolly bad in some fights but definitely worked in others
>>574263873>>574264089i find it very cute that cygames felt the need to emulate their gacha bullshit 1 to 1. shit like the obsession with damage cap and slimeblasting can only come from a traumatized gold bar farmer
Terra is good if your can deal with the HP loss, but as soon as it slot in an Aegis our Greater Aegis to make up for it, it becomes trashSo only run it if you're confident in being a dodge god
>>574252954Thanks for the runs bros, hopefully we can farm some more when I actually finish my build.
>>574264776At least we don't have to forge eternal weapons...
>>574265037GBF is such a fucking shit game, I'm so glad the FG and this rescued the abundance of 10/10 character designs and cool lore into something I want to play
>>574263606Yeah Vas seemed pretty cool but I was worried about how long his charges take. Granted I was testing it without quick charge so maybe that would solve the problem>>574263636So skill -> charge -> skill -> charge is the basic play pattern? Doesn't seem too bad, are his CD's low enough/can be lowered with QCD or cascade that he doesn't need to do his regular attack chain? Also I guess I'll ask the obvious question what if I suck at parrying? How much does it hurt his gameplan if any parrys I do are purely incidental?
big update will introduce ultima weapons and ultimate bahamut but it'll all be worth it for the ultimate bahamut theme playing while the content behind it is FUCKNIG HARD
>>574264776if it works, don't touch it
>>574265364well they did with Arcarum
the infinity quests are seasonal so we should see new ones early August
What are the best overmasteries to try and roll for?
I think I'll have abetter chance killing Fatalis in MHW than I will any of these Infinity quests
>>57426553420% crit chance. OM doesnt matter any more.
>>574265364It's insane to me that GBF players don't know gacha can actually be fun and not work
>>574265512Source?
>>574265537You have to stop thinking about this game like a monster hunter game and think of it like an arpg. You don't do mechanics, you circumvent them with your own bullshitthat being said the only hard rule is the dps check you should always bow down to the dps check
>>574265336HEAVEN'S TORN ASUNDER
Christ, what's the best method to level weapons nowadays?
>>574265534+20 Stun Power is easily the best nowDamage caps will give you like 0.9% more damage if you're really min maxingMaybe 20% crit if you're starved for mastery skill tree points, but only a few characters are so starved they can't spend 1 point on a crit node in there
>>574259952I found them all, where the hell do you pick up the sigil?
>>574266074a quest in folca
>>574266074Seedhollow NPC a kid with a quest by a fountain
I feel like a retard, hitting training dummy shows 220-320% of damage caps per hit. How much should I aim for? Or do I just assume 55-57k ATK is enough?M30 Mag using fully transcend ascension weapon for context.
>>574264613Does RACKAAAAAAAAAAAM use Nyx? Seems good on the Collateral Damage build
Is there no way to check your total damage cap? I'm getting so much of it but I dont know when I should start taking damage cap out of my sigils or if I even should
>>574265534Stun powerYour favorite damage capHealing cap is pretty neatCrit if you somehow don't hit 100
>>574265810You absolutely have to do Infinity Mechanics though, or at least respect the fight
>>574265849We need more primal reps jk is too old
Man, The World and Bahamut Versa has literally nothing on Beelzebub and Lucilius. I don't think I'll ever play those quests ever again. They're beyond beyond infinite.
That was a interesting bub run
>>574266337Yes I need to git gud but the endgame for Relink is insanely unfun
>>574266337Faa already was the final beyond boss and then they tuned it up some more and you really feel it
>>574266302not if you're Fedielnothing matters
>even ps5 has cheatersI don't even know how you could get 300% crit rate and 5 96 stun power legit, but this guy has 594k HP with terminus too
Speaking of music, it was nice to fight Furycane and hearing Tiamat's song play instead. Not so much Managarmr, though, his theme is miles better than Levi's.Also I want Trial of the Primarchs in here, but I haven't finished the DLC so I don't know if it was added.>>574266309RUDE, she's a young school girl.
>>574264148These guys(Eraqus is a stand-in for Lumen)
>>574266578kek
>>574266229220-320% means you already have 2-3x too much attack actuallyYou rarely need to think about attack at all, the game is all about damage caps. Fatebreaker and a maybe a few attack nodes in your masteries will be more than you'll need except to cap everything except SBA which isn't really worth it
Any tips to imrpove my Maglielle's damage? I tried copying some build from a video doing insane damage and I'm copying it almost 99% and I'm still lacking cap and being at 52k power instead of 55-56.I don't know what else I can do.
what quest drops the wee pincer summon with crabvestment?
>>574266164ah thanks I thought the kid in folca would have it again and it was bugged or I already had the sigil somehow
>>574266546Dlc only adds 4 fights and primarchs ain't one
>>574266750the only improvement is the terminus weapon
Am I getting memed or is Overcrit (crit past 100%) actually a thing.
>>574266523Holy shit lol, click R3 to see his trait list what is he running to cover it up
Farming SummonsID: 2CME BTHB NFT3 1GFDPass: Bubs
>>574266863I meant the song, not the fight. The Trial of the Primarchs is legit one of the best songs in the game.
>>574266653Wait so anything over 100% (or 180% because supp/echoes/war elemental?) are wasted?
>>574266962Only if you're using the Stinger weapon or have one of the auras that increase damage based on overcrit in Conflux
>>574266962only in conflux
>>574266497I would definitely put Beel and Luci in unfun tier. Especially beel since he can debuff invulnerability which was a really big crutch for me and his HP reduction if you fall off the platform is permanent, at least against Luci it resets on death.
>>574267107Echos are a separate number. Anything past 100% does nothing.
>>5742670703/4
>>574266913I have the terminus at 6/7. The video was also using a maxed Ascension weapon so I'm really out of ideas to reach 55k. I doubt the Over Masteries do THAT much of a difference.Maybe I have to mess with the Master Traits myself instead of following a video while prioritizing all caps first.
>>574266750Get normal damage cap and skill damage cap on your overmastery at least.Swap out Terra for VentusSwap out Incendo for Aquaget the crab sigil
>>574267070Can you wait until my controller battery is charged thanks
>>574267187I don't think bubs is that bad....
>>574267156>>574267158Ah I see. Thank you.
>>574267269>Swap out Terra for Ventus>Swap out Incendo for AquaLose all that cap for more damage? Sure? My normal attacks are hitting 200% and the skills 300% on the training.Also, first time I've seen someone recommend Aqua over Incendo, bosses barely spend some seconds broken compared to the time they spend in Overdrive.
pyet-a is the best relink fight still, he just needs a fight with 3x hp and 2x speed and 2x damage dealt
>>574267376you're probably better at the game than me then lol
>>574266750I'd personally drop Incendo, Terra, and Aegis for Ventus, Aqua, and Cascade
>>574267187I think putting Stun checks in the game can suck my dick, at least in The World there's a fun mechanic for it (assuming you can Quick Guards)
Motherfucker dude not again
But what’s the summon call tier list?
I enjoy having 400k HP
>>574267471bro you don't want critical hit rate?
>>574267458You can be good at something and still think a fight is bad though, like I can play Ninja Gaiden 2 on the highest difficulty and all those bosses suck dirty cocks
>>574267239Well shit, thanks.
Has anyone ever managed to queue into "Zathba's 'volunteers'", I feel like it's impossible.
>>574267187Equip firm stance somewhere in your build and suddenly bubs becomes much more funYou'll rarely get knocked off anymore
>>574267428aqua and ventus are post cap so much stronger than terra and incendoaqua also works during SBA and link time which is where a lot of your dmg happens anyway
>>574266750Don't see the Power number as the end all be all in terms of performance. Also trying to chase the highest damage cap possible will give you diminishing returns. With that said>Get your Terminus weapon>Consider Celestial Ventus and Aqua, those give Damage Dealt which is basically just better than cap (and Aqua especially is pretty great on Maggie because she's a Link Time demon)>Try to get a good Bladeqeen's Circuit. The cap on it is negligible but the extra veil gain helps a ton>consider Uplift. Maggie is very good at getting to her SBA fast, and more SBAs mean more chain bursts, which lead to more Link Time.>flat HP sigils are a trap and I will die on that hill. Just stick with Stun Power sigils for your basic stat caps.
>>574267607no bro...
>>574267458Lemme clarifyI think luci "I have more phases and mechanics than relink has new bossfightsm good luck seeing what is even happening at times, anything I do either cuts your hp or nukes you from full" is miles worse than bubs. Bubs is still harder way than the other two and I can see why people wouldn't like him but he never really felt unfair
>>574265257you're gonna need to attack, but if the boss jumps away to the other side of the screen you can just charge while you walk overparrying is simple, once you have schlacht+ you let go of the charge button at the same time the attack would hit you and you'll get a parry 95% of the timeHis attack string also linearly reduces the charge time, not just after the finisher so you can interrupt it to charge for a parry if you're anticipating one
>>574266750Summons: Berserker Echo, Spartan Echo, War Elemental, and a flex slot (Celestial/DMG Cap/Supplementary DMG)Swap Incendo for Aqua.You can also swap Terra for Flight over Fight as well if you want survivability
>>574267428ventus will give you like +6% more damage dealt, terra will maybe give you +3%incendo will maybe give you +2% when boss is in overdrive, but during sba and chain bursts and primal bursts until the boss isn't staggered anymore and can act, and during link time, and during break, you do 10% more damage
can you get cap+100% summons from the chaos++ versions of luci and bub?
>>574268062Luci yes bub idk
>>574268062yes. I've done bubs and faa on infinite like 30 times combined and have seen maybe 2 summons that go past base summon passive caps. I farmed chaos++ for like 2 hours while watching a movie and got an 80% alpha faa
>>574267698I just solod itThe double mechs at the end are really the only thing that do anything at all
>>574260097thanks for the runs bros, not a single good summon was rolled this day.Maybe soon i'll have something else ready instead of abusing fediel
>>574267428Aqua also kicks in when the boss is stunlocked during SBA chains and link time which is one of the biggest damage windows and is especially for characters that absolutely demolish during link time. The 15% is also a separate-ish multiplier that goes in a bin that's much less diluted than Damage capFor reference most people will have around 2000% cap at end game, so 70% would just be a 3.5% increase in damage
>>574267187>bubsy>unfunwhathe's the antithesis of lucilius, just a straight up brawl compared to faa's raidlike mechanicsthe only actually difficult part is checking which of his Robust Orbs he's throwing at you
If they're not going to patch slime blasting I'm probably not going to bother playing another character
>>574268415That I didn't know, thanks anon
Thanks for carrying me bros.I didn't get a single useful summon...
>>574267443diaspora's theme is the only reason that fight is good
I remember slime blasting with my /gbfrg/ bros two years ago. Do we still do that now?
NOT AGAIN
>>574267882>he never really felt unfairtfw>teammate gets command grabbed by his yellow or red orb>he starts comboing them>even if I have invulnerability buff it doesn't matter, if I get close I'm gonna get caught in itCRINGE
>>574268581The year will be 2086 and we’ll still be slimeblasting in grub.
>>574268581Yeah I was doing that just last night evenIf you bring Eustace everyone will love you>>574268594..........you rike?
What backup assist should I put up if I want people to actually use my character? Power padding is cringe
here's the Correct rankings of infinite fightsBubs>World>Luci>Hexa>Versa
>>574266229
>>574268829Yoostace
>>574267564fat fuck
>healing cap (not skill healing cap) on summon makes your pots heal moremy 45% healing cap summon made my small green pot heal for 65,250, my blue pot for 78,304, and my big green pot for 144,998
>Found a functioning Cheat Table>Can finally try some of the characters I was on the fence on without wasting 6-10 hours before hand.Gunna give Gallanza a try even if he seems boring as shit and now I don't have to feel bad wasting resources on Ghandagoza either when he ends up useless. Still.
>>574268935Swap Luci with Za Warudo and you're spot on
>>574269251Based. I like a little bit of grind but I'd rather try out more new characters than slimeblast and conflux for half a day
>>574268961I was such an idiot before. The first time I thought "I'm doing 600% damage with Tweyen, I'm so fucking OP"... until I FINALLY understood.This is the first videogame in my entire life that I've seen where having TOO MUCH DAMAGE is actually a bad thing.
>>574268581You have to do it more
>>574268829Ghandagoza because people will be forced to notice the literal who on their rental list
>>574269142Does it affect things like drain as well?
>>574266229as long as you're hitting cap on whatever your build is supposed to do damage with you're good, capping link attack and SBA is usually harder and completely unnecessary
>>574268829People have been using my Siegfried oddly enough. I assume because people know he has support skills and other people also know the AI perfectly executed everything he does now as well. It's also hard to ignore his handsome face and luscious hair.Although realistically. Marielle or Caligostro would likely get work as well because of their support.
>>574269904people are using 2 siegs because he's the meta approved AI
Anyone got that 60s dps chart?
>>574269904>>574269997Which mastery is best for AI Sieg? I have him on perfect striker with 3 damage skills + damage cut, and he does well enough. The substitute mastery tree seems strong but I don't like how so much of it is dedicated to the counter skill.
>>574267564same
>get a fast party with Ferry, Fediel, Fraux and myself as Beato>Beat the ever loving fuck out of Infinity Hexa while doing emotes the entire time>Clear quicky and get S++ rank>They all select to repeat and flash at me to do the same>Return to village....I feel like scum...but I had to eat dinner.
>>574270185Yeah here's the chartFediel is still number 1
Is there a new ai google docs
>>574269904I've gotten rewards for others using my delegate even when I couldn't connect to the servers.I'm convinced the rafale coins are just a general reward you get at certain times for having a delegate at all regardless of wether somone uses them or not.
>>574269997but my eustace and percy mog my sieg..
>>5742670702/4
>>574270526Not really. But Siegfried and Eustace are the go to AIs right now.
>>574270335fortnite girl is #1 acktually
How do you perfect block World correctly? I can't seem to figure it out.
>>574270963See the flash > blockEven my Bea brain can figure this out.
>>574270963It comes out quick enough that if you just walk into the AOE and smash guard, you'll perfect guard it over half the time
Tell me Eustace tech
>Like hot women>All Female characters are simple and boring as shit>Male characters are generally more complicated and interesting to play.You really can tell it's made by a Gacha company.
>>574271187try Katalina
>>574271035if you block on the flash it's slightly too early
>>574271186Which tree are you using bro, I can only help you if you're playing perfectionist.
you have to block after the flash goes away
>>574271264Who? She doesn't exist and you can't convince me otherwise.
>>574271187Bro? Your bro?
Has anyone managed to get exactly 200K health for their Terminus?
>>574268062I fought chaos lucillius a few times and I'm unironically getting stuff like "skill damage up +18%"I highly doubt he goes up to 100% unless its like 0.1% dropChaos beelzebub at least drops around 45% so I can see the vision there
>>574271550you don't need 200k health
>>574271383well tried shotgun cause it seems the most accessible right now to try stuff around with the sigils i carried over from other character but fire away anyways, its not like i am dead set on it
Started playing the game, but I'm still in the first town trying to grind stones to lvl up my weapons. So far I have only gotten 1. Should I keep trying or should I just move with the story and leave the grinding until I have finished the MSQ? I feel like with this type of game you should just focus the story and only lvl up when it is necessary, and grind the fuck out of it once I finish everything and I am in the endgame stuff
bros i jsut realizedgranbluegran girl in bluegranbluemy mind is blown
>>574271695Yerp
>>574271695clear the story
>>574271550There was a Maggie a few threads ago that did.
>>574270335Isn't this outdated?
>>574271615That's the upper limit of what you can have with the Terminus, 200k and below no? Was just wondering if anyone got it on the dot. Highest I can get is 199747. Just like the dead even 200,000.
>>574271712The airship is also called the GRANdcypherAnd Djeeta is glorious engrish from fan-ta-dji
>bubs kicks me off the stage>use a skill to hop back on like it's fucking smash brosriding free indeed
>>574271695You're better off focusing on one character and throwing scraps to others. However if your autism won't let you (like me) then try sticking to a single 4 man team the whole time you can kinda swap around. Also the game is gunna force you to use Captain multiple times so at least give them SOMETHING while leveling.
>>574271889Yeah but I had it saved
>>574271993Yes some sword potato dude had it at 200k perfectly using like 79 plus marks on the weapon
>>574268435too many of his mechs seem cheesy >3/4 room cleave that's a 50/50 you die if you guess wrong (at least during 2nd one where you can't start middle because he shits on the floor)>room corner suck in portals that you have a 25% of dying to if you guessed wrong where the safe spot would spawn>orbs that have a 50% chance of instakilling you if he picked red and you are animation locked from an attack you started using before he even showed the orb startup>pull in expanding meteor that just has a 50% chance of killing you even if you start as far away as possible and run directly away the whole timeIts literally the most luck based encounter in the game. If I wanted to flip this many coins to win I'd just play the gacha granblue
>>574271649Here's the tech but promise me you won't tell anyone If there's an AOE on the ground like faa's slow, lava from the dragon, or a tornado you can invuln with a dodge, then charge a shot and dodge to get free stacks. If you have quick charge and 3 sec invuln from nimble onslaught you can usually get all 3 stacks for the IV shots. Keep it a secret between you and me, promise me bro.
>>574271325Just underclock your neurons.
>>574272416>3/4 room cleave that's a 50/50 you die if you guess wrong (at least during 2nd one where you can't start middle because he shits on the floor)that's on the team putting them all there tho?>room corner suck in portals that you have a 25% of dying to if you guessed wrong where the safe spot would spawnwhat>orbs that have a 50% chance of instakilling you if he picked red and you are animation locked from an attack you started using before he even showed the orb startuppretty sure you can block/dodge cancel anything in the game>pull in expanding meteor that just has a 50% chance of killing you even if you start as far away as possible and run directly away the whole timeI've never died to this and it wasn't because I fucked up
>>574267070Host dc'd but the room is still open
>>574272416>>orbs that have a 50% chance of instakilling you if he picked red and you are animation locked from an attack you started using before he even showed the orb startupThis is the one that does it for me. I can deal with yellow orbs just fine because you can always dodge cancel out of anything. But even when I see a red orb coming I still eat it half the time because I can't guard it fast enough.
>>574272416>3/4 room cleave that's a 50/50 you die if you guess wrong (at least during 2nd one where you can't start middle because he shits on the floor)if you have a gap closer move, use that to move to the right side quickly
>>574272416Anon... this game is the gacha but in 3d
Loop Zeta definitely isn't the way to play her right? Trying to keep the loop going when Bubs and Luci teleport somewhere every 5 seconds seems like fucking hell
Meanwhile luci can literally randomly sba seal you because you can't see shit while everyone else is doing ougi and then you get slapped with the end. And that's somehow the least rng bullshit in the fight
>>574272416>3/4 room cleave that's a 50/50 you die if you guess wrong (at least during 2nd one where you can't start middle because he shits on the floor)I'm sure there's a safe spot somewhere near the middle for you to go to and waitBut if not you still have options: perfect dodging/counter skill/movement skill >room corner suck in portals that you have a 25% of dying to if you guessed wrong where the safe spot would spawnAlways go to the center of the arena after each stage of hail to the king and you don't have to guess>pull in expanding meteor that just has a 50% chance of killing you even if you start as far away as possible and run directly away the whole timeI don't know how people get caught in that, I always just run away in a straight line and maybe dodge near the border>orbs that have a 50% chance of instakilling you if he picked red and you are animation locked from an attack you started using before he even showed the orb startupThis is the only valid complaint and even then, that's what guts/autorevive/pots are for
Why does everything above Master Level 50 feel like Placebo
>>574273213Danchou...
>>574273213My favorite is getting sba locked because a teammate stepped on a mine you couldn't see because the camera makes you look up, leading to you being unable to knock him out of paradise lost.
not gonna lie after like 6 hours of boring grind the bubz fight was like being hit with a truck
uh i cant max rank the new slime manually
>>574273132I beat every fight with intense loops, you just need to learn the fights and how the 2 jobbers move, then you can time your jumps right to keep the loop going
>>574267070Host is gone but we're at 3/4 players still. Please join
>>574273289You get like 150% cap from the tree...
>>574273289Probably because the damage cap bonuses are minuscule. a 2% cap increase of normal, skill and sky? barely changes anything
Conflux is exactly the xenoblade 3 rougelite mode and that kinda pisses me off
>>574271790>>574271798>>574272178I see, thanks a lot. I will do that and hopefully reach endgame soon to try and help and play with others. Specially since there doesn't seem to be anyone doing easy stuff lol Cheers
Really thirteen seconds, wow. If the boss wouldn't phase jump this dragon lady would just pound it even faster.
the ascension weapon starts off expensive, wow. How good is it?
>in full assist mode your character just stands there and gets sucked out of the arena during hail to the kingthanks game
>>574273747Why is she even in Proud at master level 50 post-uncap?
Literally how the FUCK are people getting 600m+ with Gallanza this got to be some bullshit
>>574273656Conflux is lacking and it pisses me off because it would be so easy to fix>add another tier>put a random boss at the end>give it actual rewards>enable coop>>574273747That's actually normal, the jump between old and new endgame is insane>>574273829Best you get until terminus but you don't need to go for it first
>>574273902th9 faster cutie
My current takeaway from this thread is that we should invest in Firm Stance stonks.
>>574274042or get a stout heart summon like a human being would
>>574274109Stout heart doesn't do anything about the wind effects.
I'm firmly stanced up
ai sieg bros..
ID: 2CME BTHB NFT3 1GFDPass: Bubs3/4
>>574270274Perfect striker should be good since I assume the AI will never drop the perfect inputs
>>574273914heh, I just know that 700m Io spent hours resetting until he got 90%+ warpath rate on his star gazer.I think overall if Fediel wasn't a thing percival would be the best character in the game right now too, because he transfers his dummy damage to bosses way too easily
>>5742743894/4
>>574273914This but Eustace, the only big thing I'm missing is the final terminus transcendence and I'm like 200m behind in damage. Is there video proof somewhere?
>>574270693the thing is sieg has cut, veil and drain buffs, he's got much better support than eustace and percy, while also not being shabby in the damage department unlike fucking cagliostro. you can also run tank sieg and just monke around while he absorbs all the damage solely for you since the other cpu units won't bother him as they will perfect dodge everything
>>574274574the 600m eustace is with the ai doing attacks so he gets counter from it as well as free flamek unleashed stacks from dodge shotting into it, it was on bilibili
>>574274527What's the go-to for perci?Parry looks fun but it's probably worse than the other two, problem is that "sometimes skills reset" and "does a lot of damage ant eats all stacks" doesn't really tell me anything worthwhile and I don't have the msp to try it out
>>574273902I like doing quick quests so I get all sort of people and bosses. This is just the first time I've ever had a Proud fight which I'm currently at go this fast. I had to check the boss health twice as I couldn't believe it was already at like 10% when starting his phase attack thingy.>>574273916I expect the scaling to adjust to atleast some degree, but I suppose after a certain point it can't hold back the power of actual end game builds.
>>574274834Only quick quests cale down, it he queued up for that to grab some materials he'd be at full power
>>574274749the 9 stack skill one, which also incentivizes parrying a lot funny enough. You just build 9 stacks through parrying in uptime/downtime or skills or regularly and you do close to 100 mil damage in a 2 second window, he's incredibly practical. The skill spam one is a decent SBA gauge builder and stunner as well
The difference between this general and /gbfg/ is insane. People are chill here, while that place is just a schizo containment zone. Summer Atman broke them
i remember from a lobby here few days ago seofon gives 100% SBA after link time from his mastery, so does that mean he is one of the best AI to have outside of afk farms? of course you have to use top tier dps because all CCs in the world means jackshit if you hit like wet noodle but considering AI is frame perfect at using SBA as long as you use yours last its something to consider
>>574272628wait what, dodging gives you a stack of perfectionist? i thought you had to fire a full clip of heavy ammo?
>>574274689That makes more sense but I'm still very behind in damage.
>>574275054With his charge slide shot yeah. But the funny thing is that you can dodge into an aoe while you have invuln up from perfect dodge and it'll still grant you the stack. Perfectionist eustace is fun as hell and makes all those downtime phases interactive
>>574272628NTA but I read all of it and won't tell anyone because I'm not a filthy snitch, don't worry your secret's safeHave a nice day
>>574274995they were broken a long time ago
>>574275261does fof work on strafe shots?
>>574275340>>574274995qrd? why is gbfg so schizo
>>574275054Yeah, you can charge slide into an aoe puddle and dodge to get out to get a free stack. If the aoe puddle is like a tornado you could dodge into it for the invuln and then start charge sliding for stacks. It's helpful in downtime or when the enemy leaves something for you to get free stacks from.>>574275280Heh, I knew you were a real one bro.
Is the Reaper nigga actually any good? The one time I tried him he seemed genuinely worse then Ghandagoza because Doza has like 3 skills that instantly teleport him across the arena.
>>574275416There's multiple people there who hate any sort of fun or positive discussion over there and try to derail the thread into shitflinging about homos and troons. Sometimes this goes on for up to 20 hours nonstop. It's really bad. At least that's how it was when I was there.
>>574274995Grub general has like 10 schizos shitposting over and over. It became worse after some fags from /bag/ became regulars.
>>574275416>why is gbfg so schizoCause the game gets updates once every 3 months and half the time they aren't worth talking about. The worse the thread gets the more people leave until it's only the bottom of the barrel shitposters and there's never any real reason for regular people to go back to it
jiggufriedo..
How do I deal with these awkward situations where my invincibility is about to run out while the boss is doing 10 billion attacks? Do I just have to time the buff running out with another dodge while the boss wilds out?
>>574274247You mainly run him for the dmg cut & veil. His damage is just good enough to justify the support. Something is wrong with that Fraux though
Endless ragnarok is probably the end of relink.. and I'm gonna miss Id a lot..
>>574275715I've been comparing it to /feg/ (the place with a known scat/gore spamming schizo) for a while now and somehow I think /gbfg/ has become even worse than them. At least the /feg/ schizo gets their posts deleted. Oigen just lets the grub schizos do their thing unimpeded.
>>574275416There are multiple schizo sagas in /gbfg/.One was the fox schizo who was mind broke by FKHR or KMR refusing to make his insane fanfic real.One was a raging homosexual who took on the Poseidon persona and kept shitposting with him every day. He was so obnoxiously annoying that I think his catch phrase resulted in autobans for a while.There was the athena schizo tooGood lord how did /gbfg/ birth so many
>Gallanza in the dedicated death match finale style gets knocked out of it if he takes a total of 100k damage, meanwhile gran is allowed to keep arts level 4 permanently as long as a 50k+ single hit does not tap him>Crux path has actual anti-synergy with deathmatch mode where you want to be in deathmatch to maximize damage but being deathmatch prevents you from doing the combo finishers you need to do cooldown your skills and do your gimmick>Essence gallanza locks you out of your main gimmick for 10 seconds if you fuck it up>The bastard child of an XY combo gauge character, Perfect attack character, and Charge characterJesus christ what the fuck is going on with this character and why does it feel like the devs hated him every step of the way?
>>574275445>Doza has like 3 skills that instantly teleport him across the arena.He has two shoulder tackle and a counter, the later has a long CD.Meanwhile Vas has a gap closer build into one of his strings that he can use at command.
>>574275994>>574274607Maggy is a better support in that case then, constantly shield reapplications from caduceus is pretty op. Better sba gauge, about equal damage, brings def down too.
>>574276094>Good lord how did /gbfg/ birth so manyYou have to be turbo autistic to grind a game with no content for hours
>alt skins comingPlease cy...
>>574276312The bad kind of tism...I'm sure /egg/ is alright
>>574276267caduceus's shields are tiny. the amount of shit you're allowed to get away with using sieg's cut + drain or tank sieg is a whole nother level of unga bunga, veil is also very useful to ignore bullshit debuffs like hp down or the cc debuffs
>>574276094The fact that I know two of these people by name means that I've been in the /gbfg/ trenches for too long.I sincerely hope this place never gets to be even a fraction as bad as that general.
>>574276313GIVE ME GRAND ZETA AND MY LIFE IS YOURS, CYGAMES
>>574276040Pray he's top tier in Rising and you'll see him a lot
>>574276549The shield stacks with each tick of "healing" from the staff. It can easily reach the 10s of thousands if you go long enough without it being broken.
>>574276582Well no we're gonna go the way of all mortal things once the dlc has run its course
>>574276795when cag's 99k shield gets instagibbed by a single hit from any infinity or even chaos++ bosses, that's just a worse version of 1 stack of mirror image. you can tank through lots of stuff with 70% cut or if sieg has substitute on, you can just ignore attacks entirely
>>574266302https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGPHH8RZz5Q
>>574276828Nyo...
>>574276549a 1k shield is the same as mirror image (1) bro
What is the best kredit2team build
>>574277085Okay, Fediel is an outlier
>>574275873just use flight over fight
>>574277085>It's actually impossible to tell where the beams are coming from so you need to procc iframes on the ground explosions to not get hitSomeone tought this way okay
>>574277027When people realise how fucking busted Yoda is we'll see CCers making a million videos about it and sleepwalking Infinity
>>574277251I don't give a fuck what anyone says these fights are terribly designed
>>574272416>3/4 room cleave that's a 50/50 you die if you guess wrong (at least during 2nd one where you can't start middle because he shits on the floor)you go mid and see where he is in the distance, you don't literally wait until the floor tell shows up>room corner suck in portals that you have a 25% of dying to if you guessed wrong where the safe spot would spawna level 15 firm stance negates this>orbs that have a 50% chance of instakilling you if he picked red and you are animation locked from an attack you started using before he even showed the orb startupyou can hold block and it will block in the middle of the attack>pull in expanding meteor that just has a 50% chance of killing you even if you start as far away as possible and run directly away the whole timesee above
>>574277251it probably is possible to avoid all of them if you wanna learn the pattern
>>574277442Way too much visual vomit.
>>574276549As a Maggie player who was playing with a danchou and Yoda earlier, I can say that having shields definitely helps everyone involved, no matter how small. Defensive buffs compound on eachother in a similar way to how offensive damage is multiplicative. Mirror Image + Shield + Damage Cut and potentially sub is nasty work.
>>574277318How so?
I often do not even know what's happening and go entirely off vibes. Sometimes I'm attacking and don't even notice my HP has dropped.
>>574277251This is the kinda shit that makes me want to bring the Vane bubble
>>574277251?but they are visible and ER luci has way more forgiving PL lasers patters than Zero
>>574277159fedielSBA builder skill spam maggydrain and DMG cut Siegfried
>>574271035the flash is only a guide that he's about to shoot it, your distance is still a factor
>>574277781based stoutheartdrainchad
>>574264089No?Spam the dragons with an ai party.You get more vouchers per minute
>>574277726A good Yoda on the team is 100% uptime through most mechanics for all melee and even for mechanics where you cant even target the boss and mess up a dodge
How do I get spartan echo on a summon crystal
>>574265690>gacha>>>>funThe act of spending money in a machine and getting a random prize shouldn't be fun.A gacha is a demerit, always.Play fun games regardless of that garbage
NOOOOOO STOP RUNNING OFF FIELD MY GOLDEN SCHIZO CLOCK IS FUCKING DRAINING AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
How is Gallanza?
>>574278323Beat up bubsy
>8 copies of Excalibur>4 other Superlative WeaponsThis potato spent 1200 Gold Moons and yet her fate episode stated that she could barely afford a slice of bread before meeting Lilith
>>574278398Yeah probably because she spent so much on weapons
>it's realThank you spooky skellington man.
>>574278356why doesn't time freeze for her golden cock like it does for everyone else's gauges during some off screen bloodlusts..
>>574278356>he's not doing anything, I'll do a summon now>smothered matesI never learn
>the world's visual vomitflight over fight>bubs' visual vomitflight over fight>lucifer'sflight over fight>versa's visual vomitflight over fight>hexa's visual vomitflight over fightwhy is FoF so op?
>>574278515>4 FrauxsThe quad SBA voice lines stacking on top of each other must've been heavenly
Someone needs to make the Fediel jiggle physics mod compatible with the big breasts mod
>>574278560we may never know
>>574278560it used to be even more op when it wasn't a final multiplier, you could just stack some damage sigils to make sure you hit cap again. if they had left it untouched in endless ragnarok, you would probably still cap with literally no changes to your build lol
>>574279164It's more op now cuz the penalty isn't always active
>>574278327This is just the same fluff anyone spouts about gacha games, not really interested
How am I supposed to be building defense in this game? I'm only on maniac but the galanza fight is one shotting me with nearly every attack and doing it through my fucking first blocked attack too.
>>574279351the old penalty would literally not penalize you at all since all it did was lower your attack power, not your cap, and character in endless ragnarok have way more attack than cap
sick https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/summon_trait_chances/
>>574278371Bretty gud
I am currently hitting 300% of my cap I have max cap and 0 attack boostshelp
>>574279547depends on the character as not all can cap with old fof even with loading up on atk traits, and you also had to give stuff up to slot those in
>>574279773well you wouldn't in endless ragnarok, that's the point. they probably changed it because they realized the old penalty would have done fuckall when people are overcapping by 200% now
>>574279624>Literal 1% chance for the good sigil with 60% auto cap or higher
>>574279716Invest more into Damage Dealt sources like Celestial Ventus and Aqua
>>574279773Honestly I would prefer having to slot in 1 Life on the Line (that has no penalty since you are already running Ventus anyway) or just put some more Master levels into ATK over the new FoF that just debuffs you and you can't do anything to compensate.
>>574279925yeah but now you have no penalty until you perfect dodge so you so normal damage 80% of the time
>>574279468Stout heart with steel nerve and improved dodge with nimble onslaught
>>574280167most characters won't have any penalty 100% of the time since they are massively overcapping, for the rare exceptions that can't cap they can just add more attack from master traits
Why does literally everything Tweyen do knock her backwards it's SO fucking annoying dude
>>574280325that's old fof, read the new description
>>574277496>see where he is in the distance?what? he always shows up above the arena in the sky it never changesBut whether he goes right to left or left to right from there seems completely random and the only tell I can notice is the floor pattern
>>574280423yes i'm saying the old fof would be better than the new one if it survived unchanged into er
So, with all the new stuff pushing DMG Cap, do we still want to max the skill with sigils? It's a bit overwhelming trying to understand. Sorry if it's a dumb question.
>>574278356paizuri with bea
>>574279624I hope when they make a sequel 5 years from now they learn that they can tone down the Gacha rate faggotry just a little bit when not actually making a gacha game. That or when Hoyo makes their own with ZZZ.
>>574280656Yes
>>5742806563 damage cap sigils + Transcended Terminus gets it to Lv.63. You're only 12% below the cap which you won't notice at all.
How are Io's non-stargazer focused styles?
>>574280656And the basic stats have to be the first ability or it wont fucking work
>>574280956f7 is whatever, magic chain is pretty good and better overall imo but you can only do ice+lightning's extra def debuff out of od
>>5742800850.022% devs really think they're funny
>>574280894>>574280954Thank you very much.>>574281406What do you mean by this exactly? Is it a bug?
Should I replace Sieg with Eustace now?
>>574279468>>574280238Dude is on maniac, can you even get Stout Heart that earlyBut Maniac is the point in the game where most things 1 or 2 shot you in the gameImproved dodge 15 is absolutely mandatory and should help your survivability significantlyPotion Hoarder 15 and levels in guts and autorevive are also a pretty much standard in all builds. That should mostly be enough until you get to Chaos++/Inf. Stout heart + steel nerves will make you pretty much unkillable when you get it later though
>>574277978which skills on sieg?
>>574257412Sieg's tank masteries confuse me deeply. they completely ignore UwU (literally FREE Stout Heart) and focus on Hombre Over Here. you're never gonna time that shit properly in the current state of particle effects and you still eat a good chunk of AoE damage even if you land the counterattack just right. 9 out of 10 times i'm going to ignore the counterattack when i'm building Siegtank despite it being a big focus of the entire playstyle to begin with because it sucks for tanking. landing the right Hombre Over here timing feels like CUMMING but it's so rare that i just don't bother with it. the game just got a rework and there are already spots where the game needs additional rework. rather disappointing.
>>574281640>Potion Hoarder 15 and levels in guts and autorevivebecause people know Infinity is absolute bullshit and basically just scrape through it
>>574281619for full afk the best team is player Eustace with provoke, Percy, borrow Eustace, fediel
>>574281610The skill still works, but there are 2 nodes in every characters' new mastery tree that give 20% damage cap each if the first skill of the sigil is a basic stat like Stun Power or Health. By doing that, you get an extra 40% damage cap when you slot it in. It's not mandatory but it's one of the last damage optimizations you can do
>>574281483Rad, I was more interested in magic chain anyway so thats good news. Whats the skill loadout for that all 3 elements and maxed out QCD?
best io non training dummy build?
>>574281850that's a lot of text to say you suck at parrying
>>574281987max qcd and 15 uplift or max uplift and 15 qcd. i use f7 for my fourth skill, the stun on it is very good to have
>>574274389ggs
>>574281619you mean replacing cogthe more i play support cog the more i believe support cog is surprisingly griefing because her super phantasma isn't enough to make up that the party only has 3 dps basicly. if this AI team i don't think AI can pilot combo/s collapse builds properlysad times that best girl have fallen this hard
Eustace perfectionist has been fun to play but I feel like I do too much just to do less damage than most characters. It sucks a lot that I get close to pumping IV shots and get hit once by something random and it's all over, that and it kinda sucks when SBA chaining too...
>>574274389Good runsOne day I'll get a good summon drop
Thank you for all the lobbies today, very cool
how do I inspect someone's master traits in my quest?
>>574281640Yeah, Stout Heart unlocks at Maniac, you buy it from the treasure trade using some boss materials and prisms.
>>574282265That makes sense thanks.
>>574278560I would use it in base game where I could realistically cap with it on most things but now I dropped it since it makes me too retardedI feel like I'm engaging more with the fights now but I haven't gotten to infinity yet so we'll see
>>574279624Core skills summary-----Berserker>Luci, IcewyrmSpartan>Bubs, BlackwyrmWar Ele>Rolan, LilithSteady>Behemoth, FirewyrmFatebreaker>Infernadile, Ruby Golem, Furycane N, Managarmr N, Folcan Defense Corps, Seedhollow Defense CorpsAqua>Infernadile, Furycane N, WhitewyrmLumen>Ruby Golem, Icewyrm, Storm-Mane GatekeeperSupp>Windwyrm, Furycane Obsidian Raptor, Behemoth, Wheel of FateDMG Cap>Firewyrm, Earthwyrm, Blood-Dyed Rakshasa, Ballistic Ballista, Wee PincerWhy are dragons so OP?
What advantages does Eustace have over Eugen as an AI partner? If there about the same I'll probably train up another character first.
My stout heart goes Doki Doki for Charlotta.
>>574282951Dragons are easier to get compared to the Astrals, but their summons aren't as good. It's an interesting tradeoff.
>>574282951>SteadyI assume you mean Stoutheart?
If you put Path to Mastery sigils on a CPU party member does the whole party still benefit or does it need to be on the character you control?
>>574281927It isn't an AFK team, I don't play online so I'm just trying to find a good balance between support and damage
>>574283052If only people used summons more. Online you only get 1 anyways, so Rolan/Lilith is an easy slot in that case.>>574283058Yes.
>>574282951can you auto assist afk all of those?
>>574283219in that place you should go with sieg percy and eustace and make sieg a bit more support oriented. make sure he doesn't take uwe or he suicides with its stout heart buff
>>574283230The only one I see people use is Behemoth. I wish I got to see Rolan more.
I finally made an endgame Cag build I'm happy with. Gonna start bringing up Yodarha. Does he get even more Mirror Image shinanigans with the expansion. I loved letting my whole team just turn their brains off and mash through mechanics with it.
>>574283329I use rolan all the time in infinites. He's pretty good, I think he's the 2nd best summon and the best would be managarmr nihilla. For rolan, When I know the boss is gonna be in non-bloodthirst OD/fuck you mode for a while and gonna be here for a while I pop the rolan and LARP as vane while everyone gets free dps on the boss. Like the last logos in hexa, death 13 on the world, for bubs and faa when they're spazzing out, etc
is there any cope placeholder summons I can go after?stuff that is relatively easy to get at a usable level, that will be good placeholder I can use while I farm the endgame onesMy summons since finishing the story are SHIT
>>574283316Yeah, I'll respec him to Crux then start building Eustace to see how he performs. Thanks for the help.
>>574274995It's just as much of a shithole as it usually is outside of content drops like new raids that aren't assblasters, big balance changes, or GW.There's no point in actively browsing it outside of those periods because it's just the same trannycord posters replying to themselves ~18 hours a day. Atman is just "haha look at the silly HOT LIMIT reference", and nothing worth caring about beyond that.
>>574283247Assuming the table isn't leaving any details out, yes, they're all in Chaos++ except Lilith, and Infinity might just have better drop rates for the summons themselves. I've AFK'd Beelzebub even without Firm Stance.
I absolutely hate fighting Luci as Mag
>>574282116parrying is relatively easy because it's reactive and can be done mid-swingcounterattack skills are hard because they're proactive and can't be done mid-swing if the fights are incomprehensible graphically then you can rely on your reflex to carry you through with parries, not so much with counterattacks
i need a knickknack vouchers and transmarvel summon gacha NOW >>574283654honestly, any summons with auto revive, potion, guts are almost just as good as the endgame trinity.
Whens the earliest i can start farming for summon with stout heart?
DORIYAAAAAAAAAH
>>574283945chaos++ ennugi appetizing meat is like 10 missions earlier than the spooky skeleton stout heart farm
>>574282951So dragons is the best source of Stout, the quest is easy, quick and you get two assured dragons instead of a chance of Behemoth in Skelly Ragnalia
>>574284038The Beatrix player's default state.
>>574273132You need to be patient. Whenever you feel like they are about to move you delay your finisher as much as possible. You can airdodge to stay up in the air a bit longer and then use your finisher which has insane range and tracking to stay on top and continue looping.
7 min auto with 2 retards
>>574284038The floor MVP...
>>574283108HELP ME
so, what's the verdict on plain legacy DMG Cap sigils? are they now second class shitizens since we have so many sources of dmg caps?
>>574282951War Element is on Goldslime too lol. Of all the fucking summons to have it
>>574284140>>574284038>mash buttons like an ape>yelling and screaming and numbers>if I die lots from face tanking shit I'm just being in characterI fucking love this gorilla
>>574284463They need to be on your main dude I think
>>574284476For the basic Damage Cap sigil that goes up to Lv65, see >>574280954For stuff like Glass Cannon, Super Ultimate Perfect Dodge, etc, yeah dont bother with those unless you want to flex for an extremely miniscule damage boost.Invest in Damage Dealt sigils like Celestial Ventus and Aqua instead.
>>574284705alright thanks
>>574284624I want to be educated by Bea...
>>574284714wait is dmg dealt just straight up dmg amp? like it raises the cap? i've avoided aqua since it doesnt say dmg cap anywhere
>>574283818I don't know how people can fight Bubz with Maglielle, half the time I literally can't even tell where Bubz is, or what he's doing, or whether my charged Y is near him, and when you're pissing out your stream of swords you can see even less.
Is Eugen still a good AI for dps?
>>574285013Don't bother. Nobody here answers questions and then wonders why they take 10 minutes to form a quick mission party.
>>574285013Just use soulless Brokiel like all the other metafagging gameruining assholes that don't want to play.
>>574283590Not much changed with yoda, 3 mirror image to the whole team is just that goodYou can spam your finisher way more often now but thats it
>>574284938yeah, it's in the same bucket as war ele and atk up buffs/def down debuffs so it's nowhere near as diluted as dmg cap which you will have over 2000% of by the end of the game
How easy is it to collect the pincers?
>>574280507you're talking about unisonic? he has two distinct locations in the sky when he's doing left or right dashes
>>574285013I used him for awhile up to Chaos+ and I noticed he had bad target acquisition in the slime mission so I swapped him out. But I need to max him out and test it before I can say if he's worth taking.
>>574285013Eustace is better generally I thinkEspecially if he's your main character, he moves closer to the enemies, the other ranged dudes just stand around
but I luv dwagon
>>574284938Yeah, Damage Dealt and DMG ^ go past the cap and are on a different multiplier from Damage Cap boosts. They're more like War Elemental.Aqua is deceptively good because it applies during Link Time, which is where most characters biggest damage windows comes from.>>574284941Bubs is my hardest boss for that exact reason. I also play the skill spam build and I do not appreciate the brown bara dodging all of my Blade Dance finishers...
>>574284038>queue up for ZA WARUDO EXTREME>get a team with healer/shield Cag and mirror spam Yoda>"holy shit we literally cannot lose this run.">mfw Bea tongue fucking the floor and single handedly raping our perfect support duoYou have to be an exceptionally retarded person to burn through both shields and invincibility stacks enough to ruin the match. Those guys were competent too. Fuck you Beatrix anon if you're here.
>>574285453Took me like 30 minutes to get all dark crabsI already had the normal crabs from back when base game released
>>574285382>>574285572ah....good to know im on infinity now but i guess better than never knowing
I just got done unlocking all the new cap ups from ML50 + 5, and when I hit the dummy with Bea with her fully transcended Ascension weapon, it said 72%...
>>574285505>the other ranged dudes just stand aroundWrong, Song actively pushes herself in the opposite direction of the enemy for some god awful reason.
>>574285505I thought that was kind of a plus to ranged CPUs, the fact that they can just sit there and pew pew while the boss zips around
>>574285453I did them all this morning, the only annoying one was the one I had to platform for in the snow area.
>>574285672Have you been equipping your forced Atk +10% Master Trait nodes, anon?>AscensionYeah that'll do it
>>574285990Bea doesn't have an ATK EX trait, she only has the one where you get ATK from orange sigils, and I just got done converting all my orange sigils to blue/pink ones for the HP/Def trait...
>>574285767True, Song might be the worst afk character lmao>>574285869Sometimes the bosses move out of range, Eustace either moves back in if it's not too far or he teleports on top of the boss with his counterattack skill, so he can come back to the fightAnd it doesn't really matter if they are close to danger, the AI always perfect dodges the attacks anyways
>>574286262Well I'm not specifically asking about AFK characters, just for a general party I know Eugen still has utility like the def debuff and dispel so I'm sure he's still decent, just want to know if things are way different now before I start putting in the tons of resources needed to build peopleI will look into Eustace though, he seems cool
I like Granblue Fantasy Relink and Endless Ragnarok.I still want cygames to burn tho.
pls dont tell me i need to do conflux 5 to unlock lvl 7 defender. my bots are too garbage. ive been getting carried so far
>>574280954so the new meta is to only use 3 damage cap? that's nice since it frees up space for more damage cap
>>574285989what even is the hard platforming there, that area was easy, I'd say the one in seedhollow castle but only because that area was dark af I had to use naru's dawnfly charge to map out where the platforms are
>>574286581I unlocked Ascension 3 and that already feels better than defender, and I could solo bubs with PW20k bots just fine.
i don't play this game at all but who's the biggest anal slut character?
>>574286603it's not a new meta you woofus, it's simply the terminus having dmg cap, do you even math?
>>574286721charlotta
>>574286721
>>574286721Maglielle.
>>574286624It wasn't hard or anything I'm just bad.
>>574286603>What happens when you get done slotting in Damage Cap?>Don't you know? Thats when you start slotting in Damage Cap.
>>574286464For not AFKing I think the best two are Cog and Sieg since his AI damage seems to be among the highest and he can help you surviveThen you can just experiment with people's supporters for your 4th
>>574286820I like how this retard artist drew the butthole so close to the pussy
>>574286789>>574286820>>574286837I'm noticing a pattern here
Song's knockbacks make her incredibly frustrating top lay
>>574287005
>finally get to play>hyped for Conflux tism runs>offline onlyI'm fucking mad. The least they could have done was let us bring one of the rental characters along.
>>574286721Sandalphon
there has to be a viral chink video for flight over fight, so many of them run it for some reason but they do okay damage still
>get to see Hexa in 3D>barely see part of the model>still can't tell what the fuck the were going for design wise
Infinite Infinito Creare feels silly during link time.
I cant find any good bea char sigils at all
>>5742867614 damage cap sigil slots were what you had prior to ER. the extra levels were covered by terminus.>>574280954explicitly said 3 damage cap sigils. Since when was only using 3 damage cap sigils meta? In ER it makes sense because there are tons of damage cap sources.
>>574287223>enter Link Time>Siete spamming Unlimited Blade Works with Maglielle shooting a sword machine gun in the back
Are bub summon drops worse than luci in chaos++ or am I just really unlucky?I'm only getting fuckass snake II and shit
>>574286963I am the Sieg so it gives me another slot to figure out, Cog is still a great support for sure. I was thinking maybe Cog/Yoda/Fraux if the latter's damage is good which I've heard it is.
>>574286820SNIFF
>>574287397you can always have another sieg as backup
Ruricuck quit the game because Zeta's JP VA called some Brazilian a tranny on twitter 3 years ago. I think it's over.
>>574287367Post grid
>>574287561
>>574287557who? cares?
>>574287557>no way noooooo oh maaaaan>that's so disappointing man>like, I really liked this game>I can't support Cygames man>I can't believe they'd ruin the game like thisHe's a faggot. He also said he'd not play Diablo 2 and caved immediately when it was #1 most viewed on Twitch. He was already ass at the game and got laughed at for his shitter Gallanza build. He probably wanted to leave anyways and found an easy excuse.
They made Faa even worse with how much he fucks off, especially if you have any sort of long build up to burst character.Incredible.
>>574287557Based?
>>574287557Damn didn't know hanakana was based like thatJust makes me love her even more
>>574287557wtf I'm a zeta player now???
>>574287557>Zeta's JP VA called some Brazilian a tranny on twitter 3 years agowtf I love zeta now?
>>574287984Your Sette Mk IIs...Fucked up how the Sette's glow doesn't look like the Mk IIs too...
>>574287557I think It's time to switch mains kyoudais.
>>574287557WTF Hanakana was based all along?
>>574265690GBF is literally the only gacha I've stuck with in these ten years. I can't stand anything else. Even FGO and Blue Archive and Arknights with their good writing are still just such fundamentally uninteresting video games that I cannot actually get invested enough to consistently return to them to read new content. granblue is just enjoyable for me. and I'm not even a grinder. I've just played at my own pace for 10 years and it turns out that's enough to do every nm250 at a 15-minute FA. can't ask for anything more.
>>574287141I don't even care too much about relative DPS, but this part is what made me stop playing her.
>>574287557No clue who that guy isGood on Zeta's VA though.
>>574287731Him malding about Versa and Faa-san with his shit build was hilarious
>>574287557WHO IS RURIKEK?!
>>574287557>>574287731Who?
>>574288251I used to think GBF was good, then I realised it was more of a job and played like a cookie clicker game, and pretty much any other gacha was more fun to actually play, incredible music and design though I guess.
Finally
>bubs infinite>get linktime for the 2nd time>spam deadlands ("ether round")>peak at 7mil dps when he's at 1% and waiting for 2 sbas and chain burst and primal to finish him off>fediels mogged
>>574288251gbf does have an interesting enough gameplay loop, it's biggest problem is that cygames wants you to do every piece of content 1 bahamillion times. Let's not even fucking talk about GW, that entire game mode is a crime against humanity.I also think F5 is actually bad for the game but that shit's sailed.
>>574288602What master trait style and skills do you run on Fraux?
>>574287557I can't find any of this online
Questions on afk eustance fsrm>is there any infamous player i should borrow?>do I make him shotgun spec? Enemies keep getting too far>what the fuck do i spend rafale coins on?
>>574288632>cygames wants you to do every piece of content 1 bahamillion times.I'm tired of the game trying to force me to play Hexa. That raid is so dogshit and unfun, which makes it all the more ironic that Hexa in Relink is actually fun.
>>574288267>I don't even care too much about relative DPS....she's weak?
>Everyone outside of 4chan is shitting on Crab SigilBros, are we in the wrong?
>>574288536For me at least the trick is to never actually keep playing it when it feels like a job. If I'm not enjoying bookmarking some sandbox monster or w/e and hitting it for two hours... I just don't. I didn't even touch arcarum until they made skip tickets. But that's not gonna work for everyone because you're not gonna be the best player in the top raid very often that way ofc. But it's enough for me to enjoy the characters and story and still feel like guild wars is a benchmark for my progression a few times a year.
>>574288815you already posted this yesterday
>>574288815No, no, it's the redditors who are in the wrong.
>>574288536>and pretty much any other gacha was more fun to actually play,Yeah, because other generic auto battlers or zero difficulty or stakes 0-1 button """""action"""" games are so much fun!
>>574288686If he's focused in on Link Time and Deadlands then it's' the Deal with the Devil mastery trait tree.
>>574288837>For me at least the trick is to never actually keep playing it when it feels like a job.Then you literally never get anything done, all the events are jobs, Guild Wars is a fucking joke and GBF players should be laughed at for it. You can literally not do this compromise and just play literally any other gacha, if you're Mihoyo hate try either Arknights or whatever
uh oh grubrager melty
>Finished maxing my main as best as I can without summon rngWell shit. I have no idea who I want to try playing now. I have a bit of a list, but i hadn't thought about having options.>Fraux>Gallanza>Bea>Io>Rosetta>Eustace>Captain>Mag>Fediel>Ferry>Id>>574288815Shit, apparently the damn thing drops as a summon trait from hexa. That just makes it even better.
>>574288251man I gave gbf a go when it released on steam and I just could not get into it, the web-based aspect of it just seemed too jank compared to modern gachas
>>574289158Part of me wonders why Relink was never a gacha game. I am glad it isn't but it feels like the obvious successor game.
>>574288967Yeah, they fucking are, because they don't have events based around farming 'meat', I don't know if you've seen events in other gacha games but they decided to make them fun and not a job, crazy stuff
Gacha games can't have real gameplay or the SEAplayer base will throw an orangutantrum when they can't beat the first boss
>>574289118i looked at the summon trait list and it doesn't say immortal shell is on anything
>>574288709What?I use perfectionist. I think it works. Provoke sigil.L crystals.
>>574289296Changroaches too.
>>574289118isn't the good one immortal shell? ctrl+f in summon tables gives me 0 results
>>574287557>don't even know about this literal who rurikek>actually discovered that hanakana was gigabasedI'll forgive you this time
The only Gacha that was decent for a time was ZZZ because it had actual gameplay and unique designs. Now every agent release is just standard low effort Hoyo slop but hey the Co-Op event copied Relink almost 1:1 which was kinda hilarious.
idding and faating
>>574289468Rurikhan hasn't quit Relink
>>574289385>>574289458Maybe what I found was just talking about crabvestment, it was a japanese screen with poor context behind it.
CZN is a gacha with real gameplay, it's just copying Slay the Spire with anime girls.
who the fuck are you people even talking about
>>574289696>Slay the Spire>Real gameplayLOL!
>>574289824don't you have honours to farm, serf?
>>574289930The fuck are honours?
>>574289158I found the web element quaint, actually. It reminded me of old flash games like Adventure Quest. It was a big part of why I enjoyed it.A browser's keyboard shortcuts and URL history made its menus infinitely more pleasant to navigate than any other gacha I've tried, too. Shame about the grinding and monetization, though.
4-5 minute (ingame time) bub afk runs...Anyone going faster?
Thanks to the massively extended grind to get every character maxed, everyone just becomes the sunken cost fallacy now
I don't get it. my eustace fucking sucks at doing the slime quest and he gets stuck 90% of the time at 20 kills. I'm following all the guides I saw exactly how they described it with the way you build him as well. the only thing I can think of is one of my CPUs is fucking me in a way that I don't understand
>>574291436get another Eustace as borrow
every single fediel ive had to group with attempting infinity bubs has not done a single fucking mechanic properly, constantly dying
i cant take this potato seriously
>>574279406Maybe because it's true?The goal of a gacha is to get you addicted. This is a fact.To login every single day. To keep it on your mind.If they can get you to make a single purchase the next one gets easier and easier and easier.The girls.The skins.All the pretty colours and excitable babble from characters you pull are there to make the next pull ooooh so exciting.
>>574291593His graboid lines come out too fast to react to, especially if you're first in line
>>574291607potatoes are completely incapable of being cool and I cannot wait for the entire fantasy genre to scrape them off
>>574291779>>Maybe because it's true?As someone who actually plays them, no, I'm not going to deny they have gambling obviously, or are predatory, but I have fun following the stories, I have fun fighting the new bosses, you literally can't tell me my own experiences, sorry. Gacha games are fun despite the gacha, it's as simple as that.
>>574291779Fontaine was better Dawntrail, eat a dick
What level of investment does my CPU party need to start afking chaos++/infinity? I refuse to believe everyone has them at max everything, that's too much grind.
I saw a Ferry online today holy SHIT
>>574292365In terms of story or gameplay?
>see fediel with asian characters name>get up and afkheh
>>574292506Story, I don't raid in XIV so there's fuck all else to do but it doesn't matter, a gacha has a better story than everyone's favourite wonder child
>>574292365what are you talking about here exactly?>>574292121>The act of spending money in a machine and getting a random prize shouldn't be fun.>A gacha is a demerit>Play fun games regardless of that garbagestories aren't gameplay.if you have fun playing the actual GAME part of the gacha, all the power to you.Doesn't change the fact that it would be better off with the gacha removed.>b-b-but how would they make the monies...Make a game people want to play.
>>574292487I have literally never seen a BullDoza once except myself but I've seen a couple Ferry's here and there.
>>574292365>>574292616fontoilet's story fucking sucks, it's the worst slop genshit shat out so fart. genshitter
>>574292365And piss is better than diarrhea.
>Don't get a single Fediel>have to do mechanics>everyone shits the bedWhy is every infinite like thisLike how hard is it to fucking block when you see red balls or dodge when you see yellowHow hard is it to actually have stun power on you to at least be of use that way
>>574292643>if you have fun playing the actual GAME part of the gacha, all the power to you.Yes, thank you. I had a lot of fun flying around Rinascita on the flier, clearing all the map objectives, far more than any other ubislop lately.>Doesn't change the fact that it would be better off with the gacha removed.Sure, but it does have the gacha, so this is irrelevant, since we already established I enjoy them>Make a game people want to play.I didn't like GBF, I didn't like FGO, I like WuWa and Genshin, it's not the gambling, it's the game. Also I play HI3 and PGR casually so I didn't want to bring them up, but I haven't spent a dime on them and I've had a blast.
>16500 good boy pointsI kneel...
Everyone says Gacha are evil than played Uma Musume in droves kek
>>574291436Which mastery tree did you pick? I use perfectionist and it seems to work most of the time, I have seen it get stuck at around 20 slimes too but it's somewhat rareBut like the other anon said, bring a second Eustace with the skill Forever Yours and it becomes a lot more reliable
>>574293190How do Honors work? I can't beat Yoda no matter what I do and I have a great build. Is Mirror Image padding it?
>>574291856thats reasonable i mess up sometimes too , but what isnt understandable is getting hit by the same attack the 10th time
>>574293329buffs, debuffs and heals pad the shit out of honors
Spent basically all day afk farming faa and bubs and this was the best I could doI no rike
>>574293329Yes. Support abilities are skewed heavy.
>see player innocently doing something that upsets me and only me>ruin the game for 3 other playersJUSTICE IS SERVED
>>574292121>storiesWe have a medium for games that focus on that already (VN), and they aren't profitable in 90% of cases.Add gambling to those same games?Suddenly everyone wants to play them and sing their praises as the greatest story ever told.They shit up everywhere they go over how much better *their* game is, and how all the other gachas are money grubbing black holes.
>>574289051>all the events are jobsit takes like two hours to grind out a story event, reccing arknights after this post is crazy man. I'm not letting my phone sit all night running arknights autos like im some bitcoin miner.
>>574293362>>574291856I heard that he always gets the orbs out before he attacks but I know for a fact he's point blank slapped me with the red one without doing that, actually garbage fight
I tried hexa infinity twice and the raid glitched and got stuck in the same place. Is this a known thing or am I the problem...?
>>574293473>Add gambling to those same games?Not every Gacha is a VN-like menu based game, I'm sorry but you just don't know what you're talking about and are just regurgitating generic anti gacha talking points. You don't see these as real games, so you'll never understand how people can find them fun to play, because if you admitted these games had artistic merit despite their insidious qualities, you'd be giving them leeway to even exist and you can't have that. So this discussion is pointless
>>574293427Honestly, unless we know for sure we're getting meaningful content post launch content to warrant min maxing I don't think it's worth it...
>>574288595The jiggle physics mod is killing my FPS in town
>>574293473>They shit up everywhere they go over how much better *their* game isOnly GBF players think their game is better than other gacha to be fair, because that shit is so old they've invested way too much at this point and all they have to show for it is a jpeg
>>574293974limbus niggas toot. limbus nigga
which one is better beabros?
>>574293974nta but whenever i see subhumans arguing about the superior gacha i never see granblue playersits always BA, limbus or hoyoniggers
>>574293974>Only GBF players think their game is better than other gacha to be fairbro you're fucking delusionalevery single gacha has people that never stop doing it
>Kiana's character development culminating in Everlasting Flame is worth nothing because HI3 is a gacha
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>>574294104>>574294049>>574293974>this one does it>no, actually, this one does it>you're both wrong it this, this and thisWow... almost like it's part and parcel with the word huh?
>>574294124Fine, whatever, I don't really care. I'm a hoyoshill (not touching ZZZ, not a furry) so I have to watch Genshin and HSRfans bitching when I know HI3 is much better than both
meme wind man is funny
>>574294101You're beancounting at this point.Just get stun and helf and you're good. It's like less than one percent difference in dps for the cap up stuff.
>>574294280it's ALL THE SAME SHIT it's all hoyoslop>>574294212funny how you can smell BAggots through the internet
>>574294305>doxxing Beelzebub
Can someone post the Beatrix Facetank build please, Skill Trees and all?
>>574294101probably a negligible difference. id go with health generally. really i dont bother rerolling these if i get NA/skill cap at 10+ each
>>574294305Always kino when he gets to use it
>>574294212>Wow... almost like it's part and parcel with the word huh?Nah, those are all mineI was samefagging just for shit and giggle
>>574294389>it's ALL THE SAME SHIT it's all hoyoslopSpeak for yourself
>>574292425ML30 should be enough if you have good sigils lying around. You can get Terminus to stage 2 very quickly as well for most of the benefit and skip all the earlier weapons.
DO YOUR QUICK QUESTS
Call me when any other gacha property in existence gets a real game half as good as Relink. Cygames my fucking goats. Princess Connect clears your oshi btw.
What's the comfiest character? I'm blowing through Chaos+ on Turbine Gallanza now and it's extremely comfy. I've stacked a good bit of Aegis, Steel Nerves, and Drain (on top of all the typical DPS shit), and I feel truly unkillable. I just spin and auto-stick to the boss and facetank every attack.Eventually I'll want to pick another main though. And this strategy might not scale into the truly final bosses. Can I no-brain a ranged character like Eustace? Rackam had too much thinking for me.I've been enjoying substitute captain and it's relatively comfy. Maybe that should be my next main? I just don't want to have to think.
>>574294705>And this strategy might not scale into the truly final bosses.Melee doesn't become invalidated by later bosses you just need to get better at guarding/perfect guarding during your swings.
how much value does stronghold have? is it worth keeping on a slot over regen?
>https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/summon_trait_chancesthis list seems incomplete? I got my stout heart from post game Gerasene but this list doesn't show it
>>574294820stronghold is one of the most efficient effective hp skills in the game i believe
>>574294820yeah it's surprisingly noticeable when your hp is above 75% and you take a hit, it barely deals any damage
>>574294820Stronghold is probably one of the best defensive sigils in the game. I'd definitely take it over regen.
>>574294820It has good value. I don't value it endgame on ranged (improved guard/dodge+nimble defense/onslaught are better) but if you have anyone with a health pool it gives them lots of breathing room. Pairs wonderfully with steel nerves.
>>574294652Can I skip crafting and leveling (and god forbid transcending) their other weapons and just get their terminus?
I really wish that we didn't have our combat cut interrupted with cinematic cutaways so much, every single SBA chain I have to deal with it happening mid combo 4 times in a fucking row too
>>574294705Dunno much about gallanza but as a substitute captain player legitimately the only boss that can potentially stop face-tanking is infinity faa-san. Everyone else as long as you're not blatantly sitting on top of a pattern attack for no reason you can take their attacks. The only thing you'll ever need to fear is hp cut and DoTs
>>574293926Well it's not like I was actively playingFarming for summons + MSP for other characters at the same timeI'm also not even trying to min max them, just any of the orange skills + any kind of cap up and I'd be happy
