If it doesn't have wizards and magic then I'm not interested in your roguelike.

>>576144310
Every roguelike has an uninstall wizard and is made with technology indistinguishable from magic thoughbeit

>>>576144370
Nice. I started and got to around 25 but then switched to rift wizard 3 and mhgu with friends

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I guess I can add this to the list now.
>>576145941
Thanks.

>>576144074
>Featured game by thumbnail: 868 BACK
Is that actually a roguelike? Because it really doesn't look like a roguelike.

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>>576149909
It's based on an old 7drl game, and yes.

>>576149909
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3304110/868BACK/
I thought it was something like B*latro at first, but after looking at its Steam page, it does seem to be a proper roguelike.
Not to say it looks like a good one, le dismantle le capitalism by le destroying le megacorps is obvious neocommie bait and the graphics are utter garbage. I also doubt there's much room for interesting tactical play on a tiny 6x6 board, but I haven't played it so I wouldn't know.

>>576151296
>obvious neocommie bait
Fuck off, retard, that's a bog standard cyberpunk milieu

>is this a roguelike into /pol/ in 3 posts
new record

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>>576151390
>>576151582
I completely forgot cyberpunk was a thing.
Fucking kill me.

>>576151992
lol, that's what politics does to your brain

>>576151992
you were only partially wrong to be fair, since the cyberpunk genre has been essentially neocommie bait since its inception.

>>576152247
Far more anarchist than neocommie, on the rare occasion that reds appear they are portrayed as violent stooges, machiavellian assholes, or at best just sad old losers

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>>576149909
>>576151296
Surprised my random image question got made as thread pic but yeah its definitely a proper roguelike.
The steam reviews hard shill it and oversell it a bit but it is surprisingly good. Its kinda structured like xcom where you have a strategy layer on top where you make bigger campaign decisions, which then partly tie into the main game played on the 6x6 board where you try to get points before the run ends. I thought the tactical play would also be a bit boring, but after playing rift wizard I honestly think its better because every little decision matters and every mechanic ties into multiple others and makes it feel like a very tightly designed game.
I wish it had the build potential of PoA or Rift Wizard though, doing stupid shit like pic related is very fun and that kind of spectacle isn't there.

>>576155191
Please tell me how you got past rift 4-5 using eye of x spells

>>576155862
Probably luck, but this was taken in the demo so maybe the balance changed since then and maybe its extremely hard to do now. Might have been a few components that spawned something which carried along with the wolves
I think one of my items also procced every eye spell on realm entry so I didnt have to spend 3 turns setting them up and could immediately spawn wolves to tank for me

>>576152247
thank god i'm not a retard like you

>>576157683
Eyes and fire are two of the builds that I have never managed to get properly started

>>576144074
Oh what the fuck is this game in the OP

Hoe 2 clear cities in Cdda? Just set a building on fire at night?

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Failed first corp server due to a misclick move. Shame because it was easily won. Though it was cool learning that bind lets you see the cost of programs even when they are encrypted so you can use educated guess to work out what they are, and also helps securing cheap progs for the password. Very curious what solving this password is going to do

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I've been playing CDDA for the first time. It seems very slow and hard to do anything. Now I'm reading about how there's been weird bad updates for years, where devs try to add/remove/nerf something based on realism, but they don't actually know about the subject in question, so it comes out stupid, everyone is against it, but it gets merged anyway. The one with tires seems the dumbest.

Should I just be playing forks instead? Is DDA basically a legacy thing now?

>>576166924
>weird bad updates for years
What do you mean? These seem like important changes to me
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/74891
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/74935

>>576151296
>I also doubt there's much room for interesting tactical play on a tiny 6x6 board

yeah games played on a small grid famously have few tactical options and variations. chess for example is a very simple solved game

>>576166924
Forks are the way to go, but even the forks have become gay so really the answer is just dont play cdda

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I was actually going for the Ur-beast but the fucking helm didn't drop.

>>576142339
This is the best advice. It's just hard sometimes. Play the games before you, not what's in your head.

>>576166924
I don't really follow the latest drama but at least for the tire shit, that's only in the experimentals for now and not the latest stable. The latest stable also came out like 2 months ago and stable releases seem to be a least several years apart so if you don't play on experimental (which tends to be buggy anyway, though it does have more new content) you're safe to drive over stuff for a good while.
You should keep in mind that while there are issues, people like to blow shit out of propotion, particularly if they want to shill their "cooler" fork by contrast.

DDA is quite slow compared to most games if you play it like most games. Particularly, you'd expect to find a use for most items you can get access to. But it's the CBT way to play dda because you just turn into a loot goblin, eternally hoarding junk you don't actually need, and spend an eternity looting the places you clear. Then spend another eternity sorting all that shit in your goblin cave and god forbid you're one of those people who needs to put all the aspirins you found this run into your labeled jerry can with seven liters worth of aspirin pills you collected before, which is neatly stored in the oversize metal box labeled "medicine" on a nice shelf. When you're very likely to find enough codeine (which is strictly better because it's both strong and doesn't give a minor "-" to your health stat, making weak painkillers 99% useless at any point) when looting your second or third bathroom on day one for a week of use, and by the end of that week you'll have enough codeine/tramadol/oxycodone for the rest of the year. The most important thing you can learn playing the game is what you actually need and what to ignore, in my opinion.

>>576172958
>The most important thing you can learn playing the game is what you actually need and what to ignore, in my opinion.
Got a CBM that makes me not need to pick up pain killers at all early a recent run
Now I'm just waiting for the CBM that makes calories, water and vitamins so I don't need to loot those things ever again too

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Ok, got it this time.

>>576170819
>>576179116
Very nice, good job.

I like the idea of playing Cataclysm, but I always have the same problem. I download the game, create a character, spawn in, and then I walk around for a while, see I have no immediate goals (I have food, water, shelter, and a weapon most of the time), and I close the game.
Is this type of game just not for me, or is there a particular way to play to avoid this? I have the same problem with zomboid, but not with suvival games in general (where you start with nothing).

>>576182381
>is there a particular way to play to avoid this?
Disable metaprogression, pick a Labstart scenario and clear the lab you start in. Ideally you'll find a visitor's pass and can find another lab to clear out. Keep doing this and you'll eventually find the closest things this game has to endgame bosses, after which you can (hopefully) close the game without regret.

>>576183376
I'll try that start thanks. What's metaprogression? Because if it's something similar to a plot that develops as you play, that's actually a plus for me.

>>576183537
>What's metaprogression?
An option in world generation which unlocks more starting professions and scenarios as you find them for the first time, much like a plot that develops as you play, yes. Unfortunately it also means you can't spawn in a lab until you find a lab as a different character first. Searching for normal labs on the ground is tedious and involves nothing but overmap exploration, but there is a guaranteed lab that spawns somewhere in the subway layer that you can look for as well.

>>576184209
I see. Thanks. I think I'll hold off for now. I also didn't read the spoiler. I started another random scenario and got engaged in it trying to leave the starting building, so I'll poke around a bit more before giving up this time.
How do I view my character's health status/conditions other than the sidebar, and how do I answer these basic questions other than pestering the thread?

>>576184798
I found the "extended description" panel.

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I haven't talked to her in 4 hours I am literally going to die

>>576184798
>How do I view my character's health status/conditions other than the sidebar
Press N to view conditions. Modify your sidebar (unbound by default - press ? to bring up the keybinds page and add a keybind for Sidebar Options) and replace Health with Health (self-aware) to see exact numbers for your limb hp.
>how do I answer these basic questions other than pestering the thread?
Just ask in the thread, blogposts help with not getting bumped off and it's better than posting on some cesspit like trooncord or plebbit. The pasta in OP is ancient, so a lot of it has outdated information, though general info like how encumbrance and focus work should still hold true.

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Another one down.

>>576160187
fireball, flame gate, rain of fire

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>>576166924

>>576166924
If you don't like tedious bullshit, play Bright Nights instead

>>576196975
Brifht nights does have a "win condition" too if you want a goal.

>>576172958
>people like to blow shit out of propotion, particularly if they want to shill their "cooler" fork by contrast.
Wrong, the people bitching about how DDA sucks are the DDA players. When we suggest they play something else they scoff and go back to playing DDA

>>576193425
I take that back I've won with rain of fire, and chain fireball if that counts. But I was thinking of the other fire spells and particularly flame burst

>>576202156
Chain lightning, fireball, watcher form, fae garden and the eye equip that grants your summons your eye enchantments is very overpowered and doesn't take too much to get going. Then you can add holy watcher, threads and silver spear with remove resists upgrade

>>576202156
Here's my win with it thanks to another anon's post above with the build >>574779580

>>576203004
That was me.. butterfly garden is so strong because it self sustains, summoning more butterflies from its own damage, and doesn't have awkward conditions like furnace of sorcery and flame gate (and summons much stronger entities).

I've been trying to make it with ion tentacles but the low damage has been hurting me so far, you have to dodge every boss until mystic power

In cbn is there any downside to taking control of a npc via debug?
My guy got brutalized by a hulk at night, multiple broken bones. But I got out of there and got back home. Now I've gotta wait to heal. I figure instead of wasting time doing nothing I could temporarily take control of the npc instead, but attempting to do stuff like drop a wielded item throws an error. I assume save/loading will fix this error? but would there be any long term consequences from doing so?

Am I meant to install the leukocyte breeder system CBM if I get cancer or something?
The
>designed for continuous use and may cause unpleasant side effects when turned off
line in its description makes me not wanna install it lel

>>576207026
Isn't that vanilla in bright nights? I thought you could just change control.

>>576207663
I think its a passive one. Don't worry about it shutting off because you'll be dead.

>>576211848
I dunno. I assumed it was a debug command since I have that enabled and it's clearly a bit wonky with the errors. But it is in the default e menu when interacting with a follower.

Speaking of npcs in BN, is there any way to keep the fuckers doing their assigned tasks when I'm sleeping or away? They always stop working/reading and either return to me or idle in place.
I'm playing with the blood moon mod so it's good to have NPCs working on shit constantly to prepare for the blood moon, but they've got a lot of downtime since I'm often away on loot runs or sleeping after returning.

Is there anything I should do before tomb of the eaters quest? I have all crysteel armor and weapons, a force bracelet, akimbo blue weird looking lazer shot pistols with blood batteries for refilling off of dismemberment with 4 axes and 2 wrist blades swinging at once. I've gone down to depth 25 at the stilt with a couple spiral borers but got bored since the caves seem like an after thought in this game. Kind of an uninteresting game overall and I don't see how a different build would help. The fungal forest was the most exciting part after being disarmed of all weapons by a group of sludge things and screen cheesing to get them back. I know there is another tier of armor and weapons but I'm not sure if it's worth trying for them underground. Combat has been pretty boring with either stomping enemies or not able to over come them at all until weapons have been upgraded to the next tier. I went from hills and canyons (stomping) to jungle (run around looking for next tier) then never dying in the jungles after getting next tier. Same with jungle to deep jungle. I think I'm having a bit of sunk cost fallacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM9XNpgrqVk

>>576226630
Use a guide to finish out the story so you don't die to some BS, and get what you can out of the game. It sounds like you're past the point where blindly exploring is still fun so you might as well look up the tomb on the wiki.

Good night, /rlg/

>>576172958
>and god forbid you're one of those people who needs to put all the aspirins you found this run into your labeled jerry can with seven liters worth of aspirin pills you collected before, which is neatly stored in the oversize metal box labeled "medicine" on a nice shelf.
Yeah that explains why it felt slow, I was sorting food into an extra backpack on day 1 and wondering "is this what experienced players are actually doing"

so when looting in CDDA, it's better to just go out loot-shopping for specific items rather than looting everything?
I guess that also explains why combing towns feels unfeasible, with massive zombie numbers and rapid weariness accumulation, since you're not actually supposed to loot all the buildings

Playing BN and just cleared a Fema camp. I've never really used guns but with this 100 round mag in my rifle I was able to nuke everything. I looted ammo and a bunch of crap but I'm trying to keep it lean this time, to many playthroughs I snort up all the loot and never use anything . Only thing I'm looting is spares of armor for me or a follower if I pick one up. The rest can be trade fodder or scrapped.
I have the hub and the center close this time, I swear this is the first time I've seen the hub in a game for a while. I am basing out of an evac center and my truck is starting to fall apart, I want to get a motorcycle if I can.
Using a fire axe right now but Id like to go back to ol reliable soon, combat chainsaw mostly for the cool factor.

I feel like moving back to CLG
What's the point in CBN if its too easy to do anything.
I miss having to run a car for its alternator to power the lights. Mega inefficent and forced me to either keep going deeper for fuel, or create wind turbines which is what i did.

>>576238715
>it's better to just go out loot-shopping for specific items rather than looting everything
I realized that after I looted my first lab on one of my first characters
>waste a retarded about of time grabbing every item in the lab
>use none of it ever
>die to a poorly thrown molotov shortly after

>>576245327
>What's the point in CBN if its too easy to do anything.
Play a game for a little while, have fun, then turn it off?

Rate my build autism

>Double Rifle Case
>M4 with grenade launcher + Suppressor
>Hk417 with underbarrel double pipe shotgun
>Heavy Duty Load Bearing Vest with Sling
>MP5 in sling
>10 mag pouches, 16 STANAG 30 round mags, 4 7.62 20 round mags
>Shotshell Pouch with 12 rounds of 12g flachette
>2 pistol bandoliers with 36 .44 rounds
>Right Holster with .44 revolver
>Left Hip Concealed Holdster Glock .40 with sears
>Left Hip Sheath with Kukri
>Right Leg Grenade Pouch with 4 40mm grenades
>Left Leg Leg Ammo Pouch with 2 30 round mags of 9mm and 2 mags of Glock .40
>2x Ankle Ammo Pouches with 1 30 round mag and 1 mag of Glock .40
>2x Small Armband Pouches with Incendiary Grenades

>>576246374
Noooooo it needs to last forever!!!

>>576238715
Towns/cities are extremely easy to loot, all you need to do is go in the dead of night. Hug the buildings and slip through/around them to lose any zombies you encounter. Fighting is pointless unless you really want to clear the town for some reason. You'll never get anything worth the investment and you can loot the good shit without fighting at night.

>>576238715
>so when looting in CDDA, it's better to just go out loot-shopping for specific items rather than looting everything?
Imo no, i loot EVERYTHING.
You never know when you may need a random funnel, test tube or rubber gloves. Everything has a purpose, and those that dont can be turned into items with purposes ie electric hair trimmer into electronics.

>>576247738
This. The trick is to not bother with sorting things. Just get a big cart, dump everything you think might be needed later, dump that into your truck when it gets full, then dump your truck's stuff into your house when the truck gets full.
No sorting. That's a waste of time. The only thing that needs to be put in its place is food since it spoils fast without a freezer.

>>576246453
not bad
slap more attachments on the guns and switch the shotgun pouch for a 50 round shotgun bandoller and its close to my usual rollin around setup

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There's one thing about many roguelikes that doesn't make sense: some of the monsters are supposedly gigantic in size, yet are able to fit through doors that can be easily broken by creatures without extraordinary strength.

>>576249875
they run on furry logic

>>576249875
Proctologists ask this question all the time

>>576246453
depends what game you are talking about. if dda I would say it's pretty bad. the survivor belt/handmade utility belt is the best piece of gear in the game and would eliminate the need for a lot of these pouches. That's also just way, way too many guns, the weight and encumbrance must be obscene.

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Alright, I'm trying to get back into Elona and it's going as expected.
This game really isn't like riding a bike, I tell you hwat. It's all coming back to me like a fever dream. I'm perpetually confused and shit just happens around me for no apparent reason.

Like why do my stats keep getting drained? All I've done is travel from Benis to Yawny to do quests, got into a random encounter and had my retarded bear die offscreen. Now my strength, perception and willpower are way down. I just want to farm for goodness sake!

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I fucking did it.

>>576248803
Just buy flame burst or similar and refund it later

>>576252073
Good on ya, little buddy.

>>576255893
This is a big accomplishment in my gaming career.

>>576248803
If I've learned anything about RW3 it's that you never fight this guy on realm 5. He fills the entire level with slimes every 4 turns, heals nonstop, and reduces your max HP. It's not that he's unkillable (although he very often does just tank every spell charge you have). He literally makes you weaker because you chose to go to this level. You can beat him and be so hobbled that you lose on realm 6 or 7 anyway.

Do not ever fight the bloody horse. It is a bad fucking idea. Reroll and fight literally anything else.

>>576256273
6 7!

>>576248447
you'll get an encumbrance penalty if you use a bandoleer.

You could technically be rocking some pretty heavy armor while wearing this too.

>>576250906
Yes, but its perfect for zombie genocide. The military base has tons of basic ammo, and there are two gunstores right next to each other.

>>576260843
if you are just talking about killing surface zombies than any configuration of equipment on your character is inferior to simply using your car. Any decently reinforced car with a roof mounted M249 + whatever other weapons will kill any overworld enemy easier and faster than anything you can do on foot.

>>576260934
I like getting up and personal. I haven't built my deathmobile yet.

>>576260997
well regardless you should prioritize making a survivor belt if you are playing dda, or whatever they call it now the handmade utility belt. for whatever reason the belt loop it has is the only one in the game that can carry more than one item, so you can carry almost every important tool on that one loop. then on top of that it has an integral holster and sheath, and 6 pouches.

>>576261206
all the molle stuff you attach to your kit gets a bonus to reloading and readying weapons. The survivors belt is just a bunch of pockets, ammo pouches give a quick draw bonus when you pull magazines from them.

>>576261307
it's still by far the most efficient belt in terms of storage per encumbrance. The holster and sheath alone provide that but the tool storage is huge, it makes carrying a hacksaw and crowbar on your person at all times trivial. The slight move cost penalty to the pouches vs molle would probably never matter in regular gameplay, I use them for storing grenades and pistol mags.

>>576261463
haven't you ever used the molle webbing belt?

It has four belt clips and four molle compartments, you can stuff an axe down your trousers along with half a dozen other tools.

>>576261206
>he belt loop it has is the only one in the game that can carry more than one item
either your misinterpreting something or thats a bit of an exploit, i don't think your supposed to be able to use belt loops that way.

>>576261632
right, but the encumbrance penalty for it is gigantic. the survivor belt maxes out at 6 encumbrance. a fully loaded molle belt with added pouches can easily be 15+. That's why using tons of molle pouches in general is not worth it. you can use one or two for emergency reload mags but aside from that the encumbrance tradeoff is not great.
>>576261708
I'm not misinterpreting it because I have been using it in game for years at this point. I load it with a hacksaw, crowbar, adjustable wrench, screwdriver, hammer and a folding knife.

>>576246453
I mean, sure, if you just want to play a survivor its overkill. But if you just want to kill all the zombies it makes the best use of the ammo you got at the military base.

>>576261770
there is no encumbrance penalty for the molle belt if you don't have anything else on your waist, and its normal encumbrance is not a whole lot. (Not your hip, your hip is part of your leg)

>>576261858
>there is no encumbrance penalty for the molle belt if you don't have anything else on your waist,
I'm talking about the penalty it has vs using the survivor belt. an equivalent loadout on a molle belt will have significantly more encumbrance than a survivor belt. Adding a holster and sheath alone to a molle belt puts it at the same encumbrance as a survivor belt.

>>576261770
>I'm not misinterpreting it because I have been using it in game for years at this point. I load it with a hacksaw, crowbar, adjustable wrench, screwdriver, hammer and a folding knife.

maybe its just a strange mechanic.

I mean, sure, if you want to do the shoot and scoot, build yourself up from base 8 stats survivor on the hardest scenario, its a bad loadout.

But if you just want to go around killing every zombie and monster you see, its pretty fun. You don't have to run from zombies anymore, you can just mow em down like an action movie.

>>576261980
You don't add a holster or sheath to your molle belt, you wear them each seperately on the hip, so the legs take the weight instead of the torso.

You see how my build puts the kukri and the concealed holster on the same hip? thats cause one is a skintight layer and the other isn't, You see those little + marks on your enumbrance? thats what you get when stacking more than one item on the same layer in the same location.

Instead of carrying all my tools in a belt i tend to just wear a backpack and stuff everything in there, then drop it on the outskirts before a fight and come pick it up when i'm done fighting.

>>576262301
>You don't add a holster or sheath to your molle belt, you wear them each seperately on the hip, so the legs take the weight instead of the torso.
yes anon I am aware... the point is that the belt is the most efficient method for putting a holster and sheath on your person regardless of what you intended total loadout is. If you want to wear more holsters or sheaths you can, but it's simply not a matter of opinion that the survivor belt is more efficient to wear than a molle belt or literally anything else in the game in the waist slot.

>>576262363
If you mount the holster and the sheath on a molle belt or use the one that comes with the survivor belt, i'm pretty sure the encumbrance goes to your waist, which is your torso, not your legs.

I don't wear a belt because the torso is already heavy enough, adding waist encumbrance just adds more torso encumbrance.

>>576262494
And what is on your torso? and how much encumbrance total?

>>576262363
i mean the survivor belt sounds like good gear for sure. I'll probably be singing a different tune once i start running out of ammo, but hopefully i'll find / make more.

>>576262532
I think its like 18-20?

its all the stuff i listed here
>>576246453

the weight in the torso is usually defrayed somewhat by wielding the weapons your using in your arms.

>>576262816
I'm not at home right now or I'd send you a screenshot.

Want to post your inventory and enumbrance?

>>576262816
the double rifle case and the heavy load bearing vest with sling would put you over 18-20 by themselves, it has to be substantially higher than that even if you are running around naked aside from the gear listed.

In fact assuming all those pouches are attached to the vest I'm estimating the vest alone to be 25+, that's crazy.

I would say drop the bandoliers and shotshell pouches entirely and instead carry loose ammo in some pocket with spare room. The pistol bandoliers in particular seem useless, when are you ever going to have to reload a revolver 6 times in succession as quickly as possible? To my mind the only use for carrying a revolver like that is as an emergency backup against an armored enemy, in which case you aren't going to be reloading at all unless you want to be eaten alive regardless of where you store the rounds.
Same for the mag pouches, I would go down to a medium load bearing vest and cut the mags in half, if you must carry that much ammo carry the excess in pockets/backpack either loose or in clips.

The shoulder holster is also a great option because it's a holster with a baked in mag pouch equivalent to a chest mag pouch, so you can drop one of the holsters and pouches with that.

>>576262816
>>576263274
I'm not playing the game right now so I don't have a character to show you, but for reference what I typically use is:
survivor runner pack/armored runner pack
shoulder holster
survivor belt with a kukri in the sheath
scabbard for some kind of sword on one hip
large holster on the other hip

one rifle either 5.56 or .308 depending on what I happen to find, if I want more mag storage I will use a leg ammo pouch
In the large holster use either a 9mm glock with every attachment and a large mag, or a sawn off double barrel shotgun
in the belt holster some kind of larger handgun usually in a higher caliber like a .45 usp/mk23 depending on what's available
then in the shoulder holster another 9mm handgun.

I keep stripper clips, the kind you get out of military ammo cans, in the survivor belt pouches because you can fit more ammo in less volume that way and the clips still reload mags quite fast.

>>576263274
The more ammo I carry, the more zombies I can kill before I have to head back for more. The more types of ammo I use, the more types of ammunition I can use up.

The encumbrance is not that bad, unless your going to try and do martial arts. I suppose its a lot of weight if your not playing a strong character, i don't know if you use point pools or limit yourself to role play.

>>576263708
>The encumbrance is not that bad,
what do you use for armor?

>>576263602
why do you need a kukri and a sword? martial arts?

do you mount a sling on your rifle? do you wear it on the front or the back?

thats a lot of handguns. Why would you take two 9mm handguns?

>>576263806
If I want to use armor I switch out the heavy load bearing vest for ballistic armor or heavy ballistic armor and a molle beltt, there is usually some heavy ballistic armor and intact accessories on the corpses in the military base.

I was going to wear it with Sheet Metal Armor but I felt like I didn't really need armor, at least not yet. Your not really in a whole lot of danger so long as you don't draw too much aggro or run out of ammo, since your clearing zombies instead of skirmishing with them.

>>576263992
I always use melee for trivial enemies like random zombies, and I always carry two weapons because the primary will occasionally get damaged or if you get in trouble you can be forced to drop it. In fact I usually carry three melee weapons, a knife, a sword and some primary that I only carry in hand, either a spear or some other large weapon.

rifle has a sling yes mounted in front to avoid the backpack.

handguns again depend on the situation, the regular 9mm in the shoulder holster is basically just a backup in case of getting grabbed and unable to wield a rifle. The sawn off double barrel is similar, firing both barrels at once can eliminate most threats outright, even armored enemies if you have slugs. The alternative in the large holster of the modified glock I only use if I can find a very large mag like 33+, because at that point it functions more like a compact submachine gun. The .45 or whatever it might happen to be I use primarily to take out trivial enemies that are bad to fight in melee like boomers, or as another emergency backup. If you really get in trouble like getting grabbed by a bunch of mobs you can't reload, so having multiple guns allows you to simply drop them when empty and draw another one which has saved me many times.

>>576264208
I think the most tedious part of the military base start is the cleanup after. You got to gather up all the military ids to open all the locked doors, theres always a few stragglers by the gate and by the walls, you got to do a house by house sweep and you can never really be sure you got them all, then you gotta take your tools and patch up the holes in the walls, clear out all the cars near the gate that are busted or not working, find a solar panel, drag home a fridge cause there isn't a single freezer in the entire base, gather up all the food before it goes bad, (especially all the egg cartons), set up the battery and the panel. (I always make the mistake of setting it up on the roof of the warehouse, i don't think it tracks the fridge tempature well in different z levels or outside your reality bubble.

By the time i'm ready to go hunting zombies I'm pooped. Still haven't made deathmobile despite having all the materials.

>>576264315
you ever make a pipe shotgun? if you have some spare ammo you're not using and some used shotgun shell hulls you can dissasemble the bullets and reload the powder and primer, its not super complicated cause there is a thing called a makeshift shotshell press, its not super hard to make.

>>576264832
you can also mount pipe shotguns under your rifle as a mod if you have the right tools. you change what mode your using by pressing f to fire and s to select which mode. don't forget to switch back if your using a grenade launcher, it can really screw you.

>>576264208
Sheet Metal Armor is meh, but you can harden it and turn it into Hardened Sheet Metal Armor, gives 15 all round protection with great coverage.

Sometimes i forget to deconstruct a tank outside a barracks and drag those metal tanks around to empty out all the fuel from the cars, because if you don't get it quick it will start to leak if the gas tank is broken. between all the cars and vehicles there I got like 120L of diesel.

>>576263602
If you can craft / find them, you could use a concealable holster or ankle holster, or an ankle sheath for your kukri. putting the weight on your feet or legs helps distribute the load. The large holster covers both your hip and thigh, so if you try to strap something to that leg on the same slots you will get an encumbrance penalty.

The + value you see after encumbrance on a location scales to how much total encumbrance you wear on that location, thats why its such a nasty penalty.

>>576265485
If you were to strap a garter sheath and a concealable holster under you large holster, it would still add encumbrance value, but there wouldn't be the additional + penalty on your leg.

>>576265485
torso encumbrance is usually better than leg encumbrance in every scenario except melee, leg encumbrance slows you down among other things. foot encumbrance is even worse, usually you want to avoid foot encumbrance as much as possible.
I don't use the concealable holsters because I use some kind of skintight bodysuit always, either the flame resistance suit or the later game nomad suit or whatever they are called. either way I find 3 holsters to be plenty. The large holster I use because it's the only way to fit larger weapons like the double barrel, and there aren't many useful thigh pouches anyway. It's pretty much just the leg ammo pouch, a drop leg pouch, or a throwing knife sheath.

>>576245327
>What's the point in CBN if its too easy to do anything.
Yeah, that's its biggest problem.

>>576265675
its still better to have a little encumbrance on each location than it is to have a lot on one location. the amount of encumbrance you get for an ankle sheath or ankle holster is very small, 2 or 3. If your encumbrance is yellow that means your struggling, if its red that means your really struggling.

>>576266032
>its still better to have a little encumbrance on each location than it is to have a lot on one location
not really, like I said the speed penalty from leg/foot encumbrance is way worse than any of the penalties you get from torso encumbrance. in fact the game incentivizes you pretty strongly to centralize your encumbrance on the torso. The only significant penalty from torso encumbrance is for melee combat, but as I said I only ever use melee on weak enemies anyway where it doesn't matter. The only thing I will ever equip on feet is socks and boots, anything else is not worth it.

>>576246453
>seven different ammo calibers
Logistical nightmare. Have you actually used all these guns in combat?

>>576266032
the problem with concealable holsters, belly holsters, and ankle holsters is that they are really small. they won't even take a .357 snub, which is stupid because i own a .357 snub irl and it fits just fine in my ankle holster. You can still stuff a glock or other compact in there.

>>576266172
yeah, its fun.

i'd mostly been using the 5 shot sniper rifle but that ammo is pretty rare so i'm going to start saving it.

It works really well once you know the system. A place for everything and everything in its place. The trick is to clear and hopefully smash before looting, then come back with your backpack and your truck if you got one.

>>576266329
>i'd mostly been using the 5 shot sniper rifle but that ammo is pretty rare so i'm going to start saving it.
*in addition to the rest

>>576266329
Which fork is this? Do you have per-item kill counts?

>>576265675
If you ever find a police station, those things are gold mines, and police aren't as hard as soldiers to kill. You break into the police armory you'll be set if you can clear it.

>>576266464
I dunno, i hit the 1000 kills mark acheivement though, it was still like, day 4.

this is the normal stable cdda fork, i just recently installed it.

I'm sorry /rlg/

>>576271258
Retard

>>576251829
Visit that wizard and ask them to restore your stats. I forget all the stuff that can drain them. They will do your pretty too.
I got to the 3rd act in plus, one day I'll hey about to finishing all the content. My save file is something like a decade old.

Elin needs better controls.
Please fix the controls.
Are people really using the mouse for everything? I can't believe people are ok with doing this.

damn

>26 people watching dcss on twitch
yeah we so back

I don't like the blob lore in BN. It should still be an organism instead of just netherstuff.
My in game fit right now is the crit solder suit and a crit trench. The trenchcoat ,while very cool, causes leg encum. Its in the teens enough to make the text yellow so I might want to swap it out. Speaking of the CRIT mod it has a handful of cool items but so much is OP, I think I'll disable it next game.

My car in game is almost dead so I think I'll visit this military base I saw and check for a nice car. Clearing out a fema camp netted me a Barrett 50 cal which will deal with the turrets perfectly. Ill bring some torches to cut my way in and try not to die from a hulk.

https://codeberg.org/anaseto/shamogu
I found this while doomscrolling codeberg at work
what do you guys think, it reminds me of that anon that was making a roguelike and posted a playable demo here like 2 weeks ago, it has practically the same mechanics but more content

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I've gotten what seems to be the latest fork of undeadpeople but it has this bug where it doesn't tile right on the horizontal. What's the fix for this again? I've come across it a few times in my cata life but I just don't remember the fix offhand and can't search the right terms to find it.

>>576266609
BN has kill statistics for individual weapons, so you could have verified and proven that you've actually used the Glock, but I don't think the other forks have that.

>>576279015
I don't think the lore from DDA is any better. Blob shit just seems like an excuse for stuff most of the time.

hmmm
no

Besides no sunlight troglobite seems amazing. Anyone done it before?

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Elementalist done.

>>576144074
Why isn't shattered pixel dungeon in the /what to play/ readme?

Is hades good for beginners?

>Find a phial of Galadriel
>It makes less light than an everburning lantern
THIS IS SATANIC
DEMONIC
POSITIVELY LOVECRAFTIANESQUE

>>576279015
It is, isn't it? It's just made of netherstuff so it doesn't resemble a conventional organism.
It's basically Lovecraft's Color Out Of Space, except they somehow managed to pollute the entire water table of New England with it. Probably the rest of continental United States, and quite possibly the whole world.
>>576291669
From what I know of DDA blob lore, it feels like they made it far too human for a story like this. Like, it's not just spreading because the Xedra researchers poked a hole into space, it's actively trying to conquer new dimensions. It has comprehensible motives that it's pursuing with apparent intelligence.

>>576300391
Iirc, even the no sunlight thing can be worked around if you have total coverage, which is what you want anyway.
But yes, it's generally one of the better mutation trees as it gives you some nice bonuses and doesnt stop you wearing any gear.

>>576309101
Hades is not a roguelike.

>>576301467
Gee bill, two hoplons?

>>576314825
One for fire resistance, the other for free meditate.
The ice staff didn't come up as an option so I figured, why not?

>>576302185
Because the what to play pasta hasn't been updated in quite some time. If you think you could update it then post an updated version here, if I remember to do it I'll try to make the OP for the next thread and use the updated one. Or post the updated OP here and hope the guy who makes the next thread uses it.

no

>>576328606
ok

>>576320658
It wouldn't be appropriate for me to update it other than just adding that one game because it is the only traditional roguelike I have completed a run in so far. It was just highly enjoyable and it is free so I figured it should probably be there.

be strong ragu
be strong for mother Maya

Good night, /rlg/

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>>576339409

You know what they say

I like how errors sometimes start in dda saves as sorta small random things and then continue to get worse until the save is entirely unplayable

>>576345930
If your save gets corrupted then you were playing wrong

I've touched the glass ceiling and then it shattered

>>576342175
Lovecraft character after seeing some shit and then being released 'cured' after a stay in the sanitarium

roguelike ... minus all the rogue shit like stealth and trap detection

Well I for one want more ADOM updates and more TOME updates and I'll take that surprise Dredmor comeback and raise with with a miracle resurrection of Rogue Survivor just to style on zomboid by having functional dynamic post apocalyptic NPCs. Also I want a Qud expansion

>>576354750
I just want to die

>>576354807
That's ironic given how easy that normally is in roguelikes! Ha! We have fun

roguehive again

any dnd5e roguelikes that feel good to play?

>>576361421
Might as well ask if anybody's local McDonalds makes good racing canoes

>>576361913
?????????

>>576362157
It's a secret code word all Mcdonald employees know. If anybody asks them about good racing canoes, they are supposed to respond with their top 5 dnd5e roguelikes.

>>576362157
Tabletop RPGs rules don't make good video game rules, and D&D 5e would be particularly bad for roguelikes IMO. And nobody's tried to make one to my knowledge, so you're asking for a thing that doesn't exist

>>576361421
Not 5E but Pathfinder WOTR has a roguelite mode as dlc. (no it's not a roguelike)

>>576362157
dnd is a trash system that relies on the DM ignoring and reinterpreting rules on the fly.
This doesn't translate to good video gaming

>>576362672
>Tabletop RPGs rules don't make good video game rules
what is literally the game of the year of 2023?

>>576362672
>And nobody's tried to make one to my knowledge, so you're asking for a thing that doesn't exist
the red prison but it feels like shit to play

>>576362983
>what is literally the game of the year of 2023?
A piece of shit whose publishers paid people off, like every year for the past decade or more

Of course there can be a good TTRPG rougelike. It's called Caves of Qud

huh

>>576372448
QuakeRL when?

>>576373130
Honestly could just be a DoomRL sprite and name edit, it would be good enough.

That's why I gave up on roguelikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTZ-y85Erus

My quest for a motorcycle in cddabn continues. I finally located one by a movie theater but it's a hike, I'll have to leave my beat to shit truck at home. I kited all the zambs away so it should be ez to get to, hopefully.
I'm still looking for the hatch and I know where I can find a mininuke. So one part of end game is done.
Speaking of beat to shit trick it stranded me, again. The battery took damage when I hit something and drained while I was looting. I thought I would have to walk back to my base but I ended up finding another car and taking the battery from that. I don't really like the base I have but I couldn't find anything else that had a convenient location.

>>576374951
If you want a motorcycle it's extremely easy to simply make one from scratch. Just get three good steel frames and weld them together. Then just add two wheel mounts, wheels, a seat, controls, fuel tank and an engine.

>>576375507
Yeah but I gotta make that. I want one complete.

>>576374951
>it's easier to find a mininuke in bn than it is to find a motorcycle
Try hitting up those green colored campgrounds on the map. Don't remember if they're 2x2 or 1 tile. In dda those usually have motorcycles.

>>576374951
I never really had any issues finding motorcycles.
I prefer making my own heavy duty military one though.

>>576382435
Oh yeah, I forgot. I have one close by to my base too. Guess I'll head there. I'll take that tent too. I can use it to snooze inbetween raids. There are some augmentation clinics and banks I want to hit for some sweet cmbs. I have some quests to do like the collapsed tower and kill bandits. I don't think BN has a lot of quests right now.

What do cbms look like installed?

>>576394451
Depends on the CBM, it ranges from JC Denton to Gunther Herman

JC Denton
in da fresh

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I have been having a lot of fun, but I'm reaching the point where Chapter 6 is starting to annoy the fuck out of me. I don't feel like I unlock anything at all anymore, and if there's anything left it's hidden behind the last boss fight that seems to drag on forever... I still haven't cleared it. I also feel like some of the overall changes to the tower as a whole ahs been worse? The act 5 Mini-boss Have been a fucking menace

Maybe I'm just fatigues, but most likely it's the fact that I feel like failing a run gives me nothing at all now, No progression no new artefacts or Destiny-tablet unlocks..

>>576394680
I keep fucking up cyborg runs recently
Gonna name my next guy jc Denton with the win condition of finding the anti glare and binocular eyes CBMs

not yet

>>576412898
What game is this

>>576425625
Sephiria. It's pretty good, and it's cheap

>>576425625
It appears to be a top-down ARPG rogueLITE that recently had their 1.0 "release" out of early access on steam called Sephiria.

good morning saars

>>576432914
Good morning, did you redeeeeeeeeem?

redeem /rlg/

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>>576310096
I thought I had the "can't fathom the horror...niggers" image saved but alas, this will have to do

Good night, /rlg/

>>576311714
NTA but last I checked it, from my understanding, the blob is just trying to spread but it's intelligent enough to do it strategically. It's capable of influencing separated parts of itself at a microscopic level so they moment it became aware of our reality it was super fucked. It could crush the player character in an instant if it cared but it's so fuckmegahueg that anything we can do in game isn't even remotely a threat to it, the thing is supposed to be so massive it takes up entire star clusters. A single planet is relatively smaller to it then a blood cell is to your entire body. You'd have to have a way to destroy multiple galaxies at once to start tickling it.

>>576447321
>the thing is supposed to be so massive it takes up entire star clusters.
wow, that is incredibly fucking retarded. wish I hadn't read that.

>>576447550
I mean you can just headcanon it into being something less retarded

can't spell rlg without L

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>>576447321
>Heh, nice try humanity, but I was only using 0.01% of my power!

How difficult is nethack for not-so-complete beginner? I played my share of DCSS, a little bit of cataclysm, but always feared nethack.

>>576468786
If you look up every single spoiler and play an easy combo like dwarf valkyrie, it's actually not that hard

>>576468786
Nethack's great.You don't necessarily need spoilers, though they can help. (Everything you can learn from spoilers can also be figured out in-game from oracle consultations and/or careful observation and trial-and-error)
Valkyrie is probably the easiest class to ascend with, but I always suggest noobs try a variety of classes, because they each have things to teach you about the game.

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I'm loving Path of Asscrack and I'm not missing her, kurwa.

Thank you anon for letting me know that psychic is indeed a fun tree. I literally held spacebar and won!

No hope with the cybernetic abomination background plus having a world spawn nowhere near hub 01 is fuckin brutal
The only notable lucky drop has been a loaded swat plate carrier
Seen two separate house fires already on the outskirts of the mega city that have been spreading and every other house I've looted has been packed with zombies
Been a fun time tbqhwy

>>576471602
Who the FUCK thought Kairos skirt was okay?

>>576452181
that is the basis for enjoying most media.

Lands of achra when...

got my wife who's only played caves of qud before into elin and now she's addicted

Motorcycle get. My night raid to an augmentation clinic went ok but I forgot to bring food and water. The ride back should be smooth. I didn't get much, honestly I should just drive into a lab. I also need to snag an autodoc, I put on self install but I dont have the skills for it yet.
Next I want to hit up a bank for their vaults but I'll do the city closer.
I'm not really liking this map layout this time

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>>576471602
You should post the stat page next time.
>>576477985
I can't hear you over the sound of me beating the game with no gear at all.

>>576488524
I will, but why?
Also technically not a tree, but that's just my autism speaking post factum

>>576488697
It's nice to see and show how well your build has done.

New Cata player, should I play DDA or BN?

>>576490783
Try both, they're free
BN is more arcadey, DDA is more bogged down on realism minutia

So do you want to kill things more or have trouble surviving more?

>>576491557
Yeah, I think I will try both. I guess I am more attracted to a realistic scenario than arcade, but I'll give BN a shot.

Is there a Repentance mod that allows for Bag of Crafting automation? By that I mean a menu I can navigate that sees what combos I can make with my available items, and then I can select a combo, the mod removes all items involved from the floor and gives me the item. I know that Edmund would really love me to chew a gristly hour-long ribeye of a run spent running around floors and checking menus but I really can't be bothered.

>>576496829
Never heard of Repentance, so it's not a roguelike
Ask /indie/

>>576496829
Do you mean BoI Repentance?

>>576491557
What about TLG? I've heard different things online, some people saying it is more hardcore than DDA, and others saying it is a mix of DDA and BN.

>>576499545
TLG is much more like DDA than BN. In some ways it's attempting an even more realistic approach than DDA but it also is cutting a lot of a bloat and other tiresome qualities of DDA. It has its own unique 'realism' based mechanics that you may enjoy or find annoying, for example your clothing can get filthy in combat requiring you to regularly wash your gear, something that never happens in DDA. You can't traverse vehicle tiles if there is too much item volume in the tile, which changes how you can build and design vehicles. You can slip and fall on things like boomer bile, and so on. It has a few unique combat mechanics as well, probably the most relevant being the ability to grab and throw enemies, which sounds cool but I did not find too useful.
It also changes the setting to remove even more of the wacky sci-fi stuff, I think it's going for a more classic zombie setting with the only sci-fi edge being the Black Mesa esque XEDRA instigating the apocalypse, so no Exodii and all the other DDA specific setting stuff.

>>576499545
>>576500587
TLG is also going for pretty significantly higher difficulty. Almost everything you can think of is nerfed for the player. Character creation is nerfed with some of the best traits removed and the rest of them nerfed for example Tough is only a 10% hp boost instead of 20%, strong back is only a 15% carry weight boost instead of 35%.

Armor is nerfed, nearly every armor item in the game has its armor value significantly reduced vs DDA and the coverage is also reduced, 100% coverage armors are very uncommon in TLG. Many of the items that used to provide armor don't anymore either, e.g. the nomex firefighter suit is one of the best pieces of armor in DDA but has zero armor in TLG. Most weapons are nerfed, the highest damage weapons have like half the damage of their DDA equivalent.

Probably most significantly, item and equipment spawns are severely nerfed, finding a single solar panel in TLG takes a long time. Ammo is much more rare, most of the big ammo loot drops from DDA are gone. Food is more difficult to get. If there is an item that is useful it's probably hard to find in TLG.

>>576501841
I'm getting flashbacks of having to scour 5 towns to find a welder in Whales' Cataclysm.

>>576502834
yeah of all the changes in TLG that's what I dislike the most. It takes so long to find important items and so much longer to maintain food and resources that it feels like you never leave the early game.

>>576447321
>the thing is supposed to be so massive it takes up entire star clusters

anything that massive would collapse in on itself and form a black hole.

>>576505896
It would be so incredibly absurdly massive that it doesn't even make sense within physics as we know it. the sheer gravity from a concentration of mass like that is beyond incalculable.

Can you somehow break the ceiling in DDA? I started a backrooms run and I'm finding it hard to get electricity going.

I found a few vending machines with gas and diesel in glass bottles, a chainsaw I can decon to get an engine, and I set up a frame with a tool battery mount and a big tool battery. But I can't craft an alternator to actually generate power because it requires fine screw driving, which is only found on screwdriver sets and I haven't found any. I can't craft one either because it requires that annoying set of tools (anvil 3, tongs, forge, etc) for blacksmithing.

There's a "supply drop" above my level which should have a generator, but the map reveal I got by scanning a memory card shows that the closest stairs is quite far away. If only I could break the ceiling and go up it would simplify things. There's a "mine upwards" in the construction menu, but it apparently requires a solid rock tile. I tested "build wooden stairs", but I can only build that one to half-built state with the ceiling still there. I also tried a glitch seeing if there's still that weird behavior where floors and roofs are somehow linked, and built a chain link fence gate and broke it, but that only let me break the floor to go down, but not the ceiling. I can only think of trying a barrel bomb, but I think it'd be nearly impossible to get that many chemicals on backrooms.

Cata is not good enough for the amount of posting it gets. Always baffled.

>>576447321
I think it's not really supposed to be thought about that hard. It's just Azathoth but not sleeping. If you imagine something horrible then it can do it, if you imagine winning against it then you've imagined wrong, if you imagine how big and powerful and unimaginable it is, it's 1000x more than that, ad infinitum, also you are now blobbified for even imagining it and your whole reality is blobbed on a molecular level. blob

>>576447321
Isn't it more like a nigger man save me kind of being? It's not even aware of us in a way we can understand. It's also not in this dimension. Half of what its doing is more reflex than intentional.

>>576505896
The blob did it.

10 hours into Quasimorph and I'm losing my shit
the game is good and im having fun but 99% of the time being tile clicking is so tiring
this loop is straight up criminial:
>there are 30 doors per floor, 3 floors per mission
>move diagonally to door
>swap from dash to normal
>wait a turn
>open door
>wait a turn
>swap to dash
>click into room
>nobody is there
>move to another door
>repeat
>do this 11 times
>huh guess the floor is clear
>do not do it once when entering an already cleared room/misclick
>die in one action point
xcom/xenonauts already solved this with shit like overwatch/unspent time points, not sure why this game just has infinitely more micro without actually increasing player control, it is also comical that xenonauts, a game with 15x the units, has LESS micro than a game with 1 unit
it's just comical how much microing movement requires in this game, am I missing something in the controls or QoL options?

>>576511450
Apparently in DDA it canonically is aware of humans, and is deliberately not eating all of them right away because they're not a "threat" to it. Personally I think it kind of ruins the Lovecraftian horror of it.

>>576516438
>open door
>wait a turn
>switch to dash
>move into door
>four enemies take immediate overwatch shots
X-Com did solve it, but it was by having 14 guys on the default skyranger so it's fine if you lose a few.

>>576498021
But The Binding Of Isaac is a new generation of Roguelikes. Get with the times, unc.

>>576516438
Sneaking exists for the sole purpose of not having to do this. Fucking use it. Like seriously why does it seem like everyone playing this don't know it exists?

huh

>>576505896
According to all known laws of aviation...

>>576510194
No other game (rogue)like it.

bump

>>576520854
Not him but I know the devs are working on some work and releasing it soon. Hopefully they force a movement breakdown into the tutorial. I haven't played the tutorial for a long time so excuse this if it's already in there.

>>576543153
qol*

When you hang out with your roguelike enjoyers
https://arazu.io/t3_1vg3f4u/?timeframe=all&category=hot

>>576546730
How can one enjoy a roguelike?

>>576547291
Not for long, of course

Bump

Good night, /rlg/

Just got my first red rift win on the rogueliKe known as guildrun

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>>576564927
Congrat anon!

>>576520854
>Sneaking exists ... Fucking use it
Yeah, I don't think I will.
Getting stunlocked until I die is a stupid mechanic. The chance an enemy walks through the door on the turn sneak might be low, but it's not zero.

>>576564927
insane brown futa potential game

>>576547291
By being masochistic.

>>576516438
download the mod that lets you open doors while running or just burst fire at doors while running to not have to stance swap constantly. or do like the other anon said and sneak around

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Ok, here is your non kairos, non crows head caster run.
Of course I just used alterative BS instead...

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I think we should all agree that Pallas is the best god.

If Pallas is a real God he will let me die in my sleep tonight

Soo, is that new Russian roguelike from Stoneshard developers, or whatever, that getting through it's shilling phase on /v/ currently, is actually any good?

got the booze and the benzos

Anyone who has made a roguelike can you give me some tips.

>>576589414
If you haven't done the tutorial on roguebasin you should do this.
Think about how to make a non-random game first and how to make it fun. Then add randomness to it. A first time through a non-random game is identical to a roguelike's.

Raided a lab in BN as part of a quest for lab data. Up until this point I havent worn a helmet because helmets are for fags. Then I ran into a zombie bio operator and learned that helmets are not actually for fags as he dribbled my skull off the pavement multiple times. The rest of the raid went well but something was killing a bunch of zombies inside, I kept running into bodies. Then there was a zombie hulk that had smashed out of a crit dorm and I gunned it down and that netted me access to some printers and other goodies.
Final room is behind a locked door so return later and cut my way in. I think I'm Goin to mutate into a chud if I can find the right materials.

buh

Will they make a roguelike version of Deltarune

I spent a whole day digging into a hard soil wall with a pickaxe, and now I think digging should take more time in roguelikes.

>>576582335
Yeah Pallas alone solves defence for any build, especially when you realise you don't actually need a shield.

>>576565868
Huh. you doing your runs naked ?
Pick an armor according to the enemy and you should be able to avoid a stunlock and instant death from most enemies. If stunlocks are such a problem for you use an operator with no pain treshold. Or better get an implant that allows you to detect enemies without sneaking. Or just use Quasimorphosis to do your job.

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It's been a while since I've played DCSS. I think I'm gonna do an RP run today. Gonna play as The Pharaoh from Yugioh.
Give me some recommendations on how to build it. Should I make him a human or a mummy? Should I make him a summoner or a wizard? Is Nemelex still in the game, and does it still gives you more cards than you can hope to use in one game?

>>576611882
As a job, or just for fun

>>576621940
I feel like human summoner would fit more? Nemelex is still in the game I think but I am not entirely sure how it works these days.

>>576623110
Well, no way to know for now because the wiki is down. Fuck it, we do it live!
I'll go as far as I can without attacking myself too. Gonna try to win without hitting anything myself, only my summons and card effects are allowed to do damage. Maybe Evocables too if those are still a thing.

I doubt I'll get far with these wacky restrictions, but once you do MuMo you get used to some limiters for your own amusement.

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>>576623590
So far, so good. Haven't lift a finger since my lvl1 spell summons Beaver Warrior every now and then and that one can solo most of the 1st floor (if I don't fight a pack of monsters). Once I leveled up and learned my lvl2 spell, summoning a Feral Imp and a couple of lvl1 monsters to shield me got me through floor 2.
And once a unique tried to hunt me down, my lvl3 spell got me the perfect counter.
Summoning Silver Fang against a cat sounds like some bullshit Yugi would do in the anime, I can tell you that much.

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>>576625516
Looks like they added more stabbing support. Maybe that's gonna be my next build, but I gotta finish this one first.

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>>576625782
my first lvl 4 spell summons Krokodilus, complete with a bunch of water tiles for field advantage.
I've also found a staff. I'm probably gonna wield one in the end since I'm the Pharaoh and all that, but for now I'm using a mace I picked up earlier that comes with rF++ and rCorr, but it's also Fragile so once I unequip it it breaks and those resistances will go out with it.

>>576625516
That name seems familiar

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>>576627539
I've posted in here before. Like... years ago. When we still had enough people to play at the tourneys.
>>576627485
My first mistcast of many. It's a funny combination of statuses. Not so funny when I'm trying to kill a hornet and a nameless horror spawns next to me.

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>>576627993
Finally got to the Temple and got an appointment with the Heart of the Cards itself.
It doesn't look like Nem changed too much from the last time I picked him, but we will see.

>>576628623
I'm not keeping up much with DCSS but yeah I do not remember any big changes regarding him

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>>576628780
Alright, then I just need to find a faith amulet to get this build online.
>>576628623
My old spells and monsters aren't pulling up the weight against crowds anymore, so I'll borrow this Uraby from Rex. It does a lot against crowds but having to wait some turns until the egg hatches might get dangerous. I'll try not to rely on this one until I can get it to hatch faster.

>>576625782
huh, so that's a new magic weapon type? I've never seen it before.

>>576621940
You should post that in the discord so next patch all those options get removed/fused into one

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>>576634841
It's a randart, it came with pretty good mods. I'm assuming it's because it also spawned with the Fragile one which destroys the weapon if you unequip it.
I've also seen new weapons out there, mostly renamed old weapons but there were some new ones too, like a dagger that makes you hit harder if the enemy has a debuff other than poison. And it's not even a unique dagger.
>>576635259
I'm gonna be honest, I'm surprised there's still people in here jaded about the devil team removing shit constantly. Not because I condone it, but because I was pretty sure nobody in here still plays DCSS.
>>576631537
Looks like there's also new tools for summoners.
If this wasn't on such a cumbersome armor tho...
Not like I have other spells but summoning ones, but still.

>>576635567
shame it's +0 but alright artifact overall

>>576642076
Turns out it wasn't that good and I died because I kept miscasting shit with it, but that was the only way to get my summons to Lair-level power, otherwise they were fragged it a single hit.
It was strange to not find a single Summoning spell other than the initial ones, and even when I focused on Invocations to make my cards stronger now that Summoning was being outscaled, the flow of cards is pretty lackluster and I ran out of them pretty often.

I wish it was like in .15 where you could sling cards everytime, everyday. Guess I'll focus a lot more on leveling Summoning this time around and hope I get a spell at some point, before Lair preferably.

>>576627993
Fast Dog when?

>>576635259
>discord
forum is better

>>576642076
They'll remove the +X on the next patch

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>>576648079
Once I get a potion of haste.
>>576643196
Alright, this next run looks better.
There's this spell and Summon Hydra and got them before Lair, so I'm ready to not splat like an imbecile once again.
There's also something about piety not decreasing for inactivity anymore and adjusted piety gain in trunk and that's where I'm playing. I wonder if that's what's making cards rolling too slow for me.

>>576649387
Never mind that. I wasn't able to cast any of them by Lair, so it ended the same way.
Guess I'm gonna focus on Invocations next and keep all of my cards for Lair.

bump

god

>>576615680
For some reason this reminds me of people playing underrail without using all options at their disposal. Great game but not a roguelike. Roguelike like underrail?

>>576635567
>I'm surprised there's still people in here jaded about the devil team removing shit constantly
There's also me being jaded about all the garbage ideas they ADD to the game. I fucking hate talismans and doom. I can't play that game anymore.

Good night, /rlg/

>>576674150
Roguelikes for this feel?