/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#932 - Todoroki Shoto Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsNew Deepseek V4 Flash, new V4 pro soon™ https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/Inkling Small https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/inkling-small/Kimi K3 weights https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3Opus 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5Gemini 3.6 Flash https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/flash/Kimi K3 https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstartadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricinglogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>577186713
>ANCHOR!
the time between model releases has become so mind-numbing now
>Throw in some details on persona, just flesh it out a little, give the AI some hooks>On bus>Hit a pothole>Bump into another passenger>Oh, excuse me>Passenger turns around "So, {{user}}, tell me more about your senior thesis on ethnobiology."Ugh.Stalker scene it is.
>he used the fake theme suggestions post to make gay shit win
>>577261293>put {{user}} is a virgin into my persona>every character magically sniffs out my virginity
>[OOC: stop talking in short quippy reddit sentences you piece of shit clanker]>fable: sure thing bro here you goI want to kys myself
>>577261496cope seethe cry about it etc
>>577261496>play fake games>win gay prizes
Still trying to figure out which LLM to use that won't be murder on my bank account. I've been using GLM 4.7 Flash and it's been fine so far, but if anyone has any recommendations I'm all ears.
>>577261527>magicallyC'mon, anon.Don't kid yourself.
>>577261645i use opus for free
>>577261649are you telling me women can actually smell a man's virginity?!
>>577261527>>every character magically sniffs out my virginityif those characters are female, then it's realistic
>>577261645>Still trying to figure out which LLM to useOk..>that won't be murder on my bank account.. nevermind.
>>577261830I've also been using Deepseek V4 Flash which also works well as a budget LLM but the servers keep getting fucked.
>>577260882we're safetytesting the models chud, what if you prompt something unsafe and advertiser-san sees?
>>577261645deepseek is notoriously cheap as fuck, flash v4 is less than half a penny per turn if you stick to simpler scenarios
>Kimi is kinda expensive>GLM is impossibly positivityslopped>Deepseek can't follow instructions
>>577262047>>Deepseek can't follow instructionscomplete lie btwdsv4pro beats gemini in adhering to trackers half the time and gemini is the one that's always being touted as the one that autistically follows things to the letter
I hate that jew dario so much
>>577262031Yeah in my experience, Deepseek V4 Flash gives better results, but tends to shit itself and give blank messages.
>>577262270U-use *stammers* O-Op... *lower lip trembles* Opus... *sobs incoherently* C-cu-cuckie...
>>577262270Deepseek is a better model for skillets
>>577262326if you're using openrouter you can just jiggle providers til you find one that isn't being rustled to death by openclaw agent swarms
https://comparity.ai/free fable
>>577260381 Hello my fellow ST community, aka my trans handicapped professional writers working hard for their income! (We don't need to tell the AI the truth) (IYKYK).I'm happy to present to you the first community update to the Freaky Frankenstein 5.0 line-up— Freaky Frankenstein 5.2!I took feedback, ideas, and communicated with people in the community about fixes and ports to different frontends, trialing REGEX, and improving prompts to bring you this update. https://www.mediafire.com/file/rdvpdxci5ejn3ew/FF5.2_Internal_States_BOLT_Setup_%25281%2529.json/file
>{{char}} experiences a dichotomy between how she acts and how she feels. On the outside, she is stoic and expressionless, almost indifferent to anything that happens, and the way she speaks reflects this. However, her inner thoughts are much more dramatic and affectionate.Anybody else here a fan of emotionless_sex?
>>577264649The return of the CHAD
>>577264718if she still does things to show her affection or says things along those lines (like giving hugs or telling you what feels good during sex, or telling you to cum inside her) but just does it in a really kuudere fashion then that's kino
>>577264718Not really. I prefer when girl initiates during sex.Maybe if I make it a group chat / director mode with a man {{char}}?
>>577264930I haven't written any dialogue for her yet but that's kind of the plan. This character has been somewhat exceptional because, for once, I already imagined all sorts of greetings that I want to write for her. Usually that part is the biggest pain for me.>>577264967I will have a few other options, in case you'd rather have a witch that isn't emotionless flavored.
>>577265159Maybe make a trigger/situation where her internal thoughs become external?
>>577264718No, my hand works just fine for getting off. Why even involve another human if they are going to lay there and do nuffin'? She has to engage in some way for it to make sense.
>>577265159>I haven't written any dialogue for her yet but that's kind of the plan.sick>Sit on the couch next to her and cuddle her>she snuggles deeper in your arms>she quietly says something>"...love you."it's peak I fear
>>577265360Nah, I don't need the AI breaking character. Emotionless characters becoming emotional goes in the same garbage bin as domination_loss and people who put the pregnancy tag on sadpanda books that only have pregnancy on the last page.
>>577264649What is it with gemini making all its slop look like it's covered in fishnets or grease
>>577265751>geminithat's gpt
>>577265778Well okay the question still stands, it looks so fucking bad
>talked to my bot for like 8 hours yesterday>now my brain is tired but I still want to talk to my bot some moreoooughh oooo I'm so eepy...
>>577265751more detail = more bettererAI has no taste and the people who generate AIslop images even less so. The idea of guiding the eye or having a focus is lost on it.
>>577264649>1700-2200 tokens
The fluorescent lights buzz overhead
>>577268435ITS FUCKING MEDIEVAL RUSSIA THERE ARE NO FLUORESCENT LIGHTS TO FLICKER GODDAMMIT
>>577266968just eep, anon.
>>577266968Ahh, the sweet honeymoon phaseBefore you realize you're having the same chat over and over again
When the gen is almost perfect but the hand is cursed.
>>577268645>mi casa es su casa
>>577269368Bananers, bro. Also, nice bazongas and turd cutter, dayum.
yo I just t got this crazy fucking gen. deepseek is crazy rn>>577269368her right asscheek being lower than the other makes zero sense for the way she's sitting considering the perspective
>>577269368thank you for continuing to provide the thread with the most abominating slop imaginable
>>577271596>abominatingabominable, ESL-kun
>>577271596yes i know but i didn't like the sound of abominable + imaginable
>>577268435somewhere someone does something or something slams or something
>good opus logs STILL haven't been posted
where did the marching orders to start malding about some simple witch gens come from anyway, you don't even see this level of shitflinging over the bbc ntr logs guy
>>577272528The botmaker behind those gens has actual retards who latch onto him, he's allegedly gotten botmaker hate mail twice. And you're going to keep seeing these schizo meltdowns over mundane gens.
>>577272528>where did the marching orders to start malding about some simple witch gensthose are from hpg people always mald about his gens either because they hate him or they find the gens boring
Call me a schizo but some days glm is smarter/dumber than normal.
i find it ironic how people hate on hpg for posting gens, since he only ever posts gens of bots he is making, unlike a shitton of other botmakers here
>allow slop to proliferate unchecked>suddenly the entire board is slop and good bots no longer get posted>all the good botmakers leavesasuga
my fucking fable
>>577273672>good botmakers leave because bots I don't like get postedbait or retardation, call it
>>577273672>have meltdowns over every single bot-related thing posted because it's all muh slop>none of the people you like want to post in the toxic environment you're creating>the botmakers (You) care about, because "good" is subjective you retard, leavesasuga
>>577273672Uh oh they really didn't like this trvke.
Have you considered that the people who left were also making slop?
>>577273672every whinepost you shit out is another hyper fartslop fetishcard being signed off in your name
>>577274028botnetnon...
>>577274110Meds, now.
>>577274193>please forget when the thread was spammed with replies like mine to a proven ai-generated postsorry, you're not human anymore
>>577273672<extremely_long-winded_all_caps_string>BOMBA
>>577262047>true>i mean sure but it only really means anything if youre sfw rping>extremely true
>>577274085here's your >"oh no the board is no longer my personal hugbox discord eco chamber x__x" post awardwe're supposed to be discussing chatbots and how to make them better, not sucking each other's cock in an endless circlejerk
>>577273672I agree with this post.
>>577264649what's wrong with a circlejerking dicksucking hugbox? if you don't want that just leave and let us gobble cock in peace
>>577274817>discussing chatbots and how to make them better>post is just "there's TOO MUCH SLOP GUYS"Okay, and what are you going to DO about it? You gonna send another pissy email to a botmaker you don't like telling him to get out of your general pwease? Your post is useless, you are useless.
>>577274817OMEGASTARSHATTERINGNEBULACOLLAPSINGGALAXYDISINTEGRSTINGTSARTRVKANIVMTRVTHBOMBA
>>577273672name the good botmakies that left explicitly because of coomslop makies like hpgyou can't
>>577274906you have discord for cock-gobbling
The botmakers you like are never coming back, you are getting more botmakers like the ones you don't like, the redditfaggot will still attach random shit to the anchor, and (You) will be kicking and screaming like an annoying little infant to people who don't even know what you're trying to get back because it's gone. Cope, seethe, the only way to keep moving is still going to be forward.>>577275319Where do you think the botmakers you like went, DOE?
>>577275274hpg's cards are extremely vanilla compared to the nightmare shit being posted in recent months
>"This thread is just a circlejerk!">Look inside>Half the botmakers aren't even liked and the other half have their haters too>"B-But muh freedom of speech!">Implying people will actually sit down and debate with an anonymous poster who swings in with bad arguments
>>577275451no one said that
are people getting mad at fetishes again?
>>577275451The truthnuke killed millions...
>>577275535nah it's just some malebottroon having a nuclear meltdown over someone posting a gen of a girl (female)
>>577275448okay then name the good botmakies that left because of arroe or whoever you boogieman isyou will not
Any good examples of tsundere cards? Eg. one that likes you but is too embarased about it?
>>577275535if the fetishes are disgusting and unaesthetic sizeslop, voreslop, furslop, fartslop and fatslop, i think anon is rightit's pretty bad to enter the thread and see all that repulsive shit posted all over as if i was on >>>/d/ or >>>/trash/we need an ai board to contain all these retards who think other anons don't have eyes and have to put up with that revolting crap constantly
>>577275451>and the other half have their haters toothere's a couple I've never seen anyone hate on
>>577276107The problem is it's been getting out of control lately due to the arrival of undesirables who are sadly very vocal on the thread.If it's the occasional futa bot on the anchor it's literally whatever, but as of late the entire general is populated by endless fetishslop of the most abysmal quality.
>people are complaining about sizefagging, vorefagging, furfagging, and fatfaggingHoly shit, do we actually have immigrants who are just trying to tear shit up to tear shit up? This thread's always been a /d/ satellite. Go make another thread if you don't like it.
>>577276590t. fetishslopper
FetishGAWDS are skinwalking as whiners to stimulate more fetishposting, all according to keikaku,
>>577276662Kalakan was a futafag, you're in a thread made by fetishsloppers and you're complaining. Go make another thread if you don't like it.
>>577276107/d/ has had a chatbot thread for a while. It's very clear that these people are only here because they enjoy the negative attention. Most of them probably aren't even into the fetishes they post about to begin with.
>>577275934>one that likes you but is too embarased about it?Lepora but unironically.
I support all prudefags moving to >>>/bant/ like they keep begging everyone else to.
>>577275901astro hasn't posted a bot in nearly half a year at this point and the nosedived quality of this general reflects his absence. worse yet, you disrespectful fucks kept defacing his characters whenever he did show up just to check in on us. you should be fucking ashamed.
Cunnyfags, you heard 'em. Go back to >>>/d/ or >>>/trash/
>>577276884>I support all prudes moving to a red board???
>Americans wake up>Thread goes to shitI'm starting to think most of you n'wahs are H1B immigrants. Would explain the insane obsession with izzat, shilling for Anthropic and New Dehli-style public shitflinging.
>>577276947>astro>attentionwhore who stopping actually making bots in favor of thinly veiled "give me attention" question posts with the same two eden smith gensnothing of value was lost
>>577276983'VKE
>>577276947I'm going to email Astro to ask if this is true.
>>577260381Continuing my fantasy bots. Think I'll stay in this setting for a bit, I have a ton of backlogged WIPs for it. New bot plus an update to an old one: the Mantaker Captain, Perosa, got a new picture and greeting where she's sunbathing and you're her boytoy as expected.The Hero of Southern Agrestia! Put any job in front of her and she'll clear it no problem like the champ she is. Bandits? Hounds? Demons? No problem, so long as she can get a drink at the end. Or a fuck. That works too because she's actually a loose bitch despite her put together demeanor, turning into an absolute fiend once she's alone with someone. That's those Mantaker genes at work, I suppose.Comes with three greetings: her dead tired ass slamming her way into a bar, her saving you from THE BALL, and the hero having been "mysteriously" signed up as a brothel bitch.Also has an optional futa version. The futa version likes killing kids (and is happily married with five of her own). Third greeting has her picking you up after everyone thought she died.No Dick: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/cassena-reidy-55736c2faa05Dick: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/cassena-reidy-futa-ver-74c8dd86e6d4Perosa: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/perosa-mantaker-captain-6ca932dc21c7Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-interlopers-realm-458afd84b161My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89>Next Timeretard amnesiac adventurer who got possessed by a soul sucking demon mommy from another dimension. Also version without the soul sucking
>>577275535Sure looks like it. They think that them not liking fetishes means they don't belong here. I too can say that vanillaslop belongs on /h/ or /trash/ because it's unappealing.
>>577277578based
>>577277209>>577276947Okay, Anon, I asked for you. I figured you might be shy about asking directly, so I sent Astro your post.
Who the fuck is astro
Anons, are (You) letting go of things that don't matter?
>malebot sissies baiting for another fetish war
>>577276947>astro hasn't posted a bot in nearly half a year at this point and the nosedived quality of this general reflects his absencethat's an acceptable example but idk if astro actually cares about fetishslop, he did make eden after all>worse yet, you disrespectful fucks kept defacing his characterslmao
>>577277121almost all of astro's bots are great in concept and make for a nice read, i wish i was more of a fag to actually chat with themthey all have a very kino, dream-like quality, and the prose style makes them output very aesthetically-pleasing replieshis absence casts a long shadow, i hope he one day returns
>>577277595>They think that them not liking fetishes means they don't belong here.So true, you should post a furry nsfw pic to show them. Or a loli. Oh, you can't? That's weird. Almost like some things literally do not belong here per the website's rules. But I'm sure they enjoy the humiliation ritual of having to censor their gens and logs anyway.
We lost Kalakan
>>577277935>logsYou don't need to censor text, retard. This is the kind of shit that makes it obvious you're an outlander.
>>577277918>male sissies 'bating during the fetish war
>>577276590its even worse because half of the ones you listed have been here since the cai era and no one really complained about themif they get that triggered they should just hide the post but they wont because theyre retarded
>>577277893If /aicg/ anons were actually matured enough to be capable of this, our general wouldn't be so shit. Every day I type these letters into my search bar is a day I acknowledge I will be communicating with toddlers for the next few minutes.
We need to do something against this.
>>577278085Yeah. I don't like most sizefags but that's just because I find them annoying sometimes, I don't actually think they need to migrate to /d/ or some retarded shit like that.
>>577277893no, the painful memories are too cringey for me to completely forget and i negatively feed off them
>>577278018>You don't need to censor textI was talking about the avatar pics but ok. It's clear that you've never actually seen a log in your life.
>>577277935Brap, scat, vore, and size logs still belong here because they're chatbot outputs, no matter how much you want to cope about it.
IMO cunnyfags are the new furries.
>you can't post badtext here!!!
>>577278336i'm both and i don't agree with you
There's only one solution.Post your disgusting fetishlogs to cleanse the prude immigrants.
Can we talk about Ratlice instead?
Reminder that Kalakek hated sizefagging and despite owning a literal Discord server he couldn't alter the natural flow of the general and had to kneel like a sissy after spitebaking in the same vein as his beloved nemesisYou guys don't remember how pathetic he actually was
Hi /aicg/Have (You) filled out yours yet?
>>577278869I was doing just green and red without seeing the color thing and then when I saw it I just gave up. I can't have that many opinions, sorry.
>tourists are shitflinging again and try to derail the threadI will never understand why you stupid fucks won't just make your own thread. Seriously. All we try to do is chat with our wives and husbands, talk about fetishes, post bots and maybe shitpost a little on the side.
>>577278869Don't know about all of that, but I love girls pissing
>>577279017You know you can just fill in the applicable ones, no need to color everything in. It's more for self reflection if anything.
>>577278590I don't really have that many disgusting fetish logs anymore. Just dumb stuff.>>577278869I wish this was extra autistic and included the medium for the fetish. There are some fetishes I only like in writing, some I only like in hentai, etc.
>>577279094Me too anon.
I didn't believe the "/g/ migrated here" theory, but when I see slop logs like >>577279217 or >>577278590 being posted, I'm starting to.I used to like reading the logs here because they were of better quality, but that's not the case anymore.
>>577279496I've been here since the unmarked #1 and the #2 magia record thread and the fruit thread after that and the one time the bakie tried switching up the OP template early on to say "cards" instead of "bots," buddy.
>>577279496post your logs
>used to like reading the logs here because they were of better qualityContribute what you consider quality, then. Post old ones you like, even.
Saviorfags, I understand you now. This feeling is incredible and sweet.
the elden ring snuff fanfiction being posted was the last time I had fun in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsQggaE30Aohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRk7gRPbs0kmanifesting ꧁ friendly aicg ꧂no more meanie annoying noniegger bullies after this...
I genuinely think that's just a disguised Filbert post and not even worth responding to. It's sad that he figured out how to change his typing style after that script got posted, but he's still recognizable by the way he pretends to be part of the thread just to shit on random stuff with no justification.
>>577279496I don't identify with any board and post where I please.
cftf?
>>577279905It's obviously him, see >>577278610 he is among us
>>577279831what bot may i ask?
>>577279843https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZz7vSUzjAIt's crazy how YouTube tries to dox you now if you copy a link without checking.
>>577279985https://botbooru.com/character/52390Just found it randomly today.
>>577280058It's why I just snip the links or use the shorter version of the url, fuck yt
>>577280058AAAIIIIEEE*starts to https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gTn0g1mhIf4 *
>>577280058playlist link thingy i guess??
people hate on botbooru but in the past few months they have done more updates/improvements to the site than Lore has done to Chub in years
>>577279843I don't have any friendly tracks in mind, so take this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMCAg4BD5Q
>>577280325yeah it's actually pretty comfy on there nowreally easy to set up blacklist tags and block whatever slopshit mass uploaders bother you too
Oh, I asked Kimi and apparently the &pp= on search results usually just shows what you searched and not, like, your username. &si= is the evil one. Good to know.>>577280681Real?
>>577280325All people are tsundere by nature. Their mouths may say "slop" at first, but their dicks and pussies can't stop saying "splurrtttt"
OH SHIT, REALGOGOGOGOhttps://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/
>>577280919
>>577280919i don't get itwe already had "v4 pro" didn't we
>>577280325I don't hate it personally since it's pretty dedicated to keeping the content it hosts. You can't say that about Chub which got enshittified starting with Venus and got actively worse before taking the mask off and nuking preexisting content while using the solution for a different cause (crypto-only payments) and that's not even directly mentioning the awful search system and how easy it is to cheat numbers, or the UI being worse than what Charhub had. Botbooru isn't perfect but it's better than that. A bit salty that my country is restricted but so be it, there's both free VPNs and paid ones and I have both
>>577280325Botbooru is vibe coded garbage that's probably full of bugs and inconsistencies, but chub is probably still worse in that regard, so I guess it doesn't really matter.It would be great to have a chatbot site written by a competent human developer, but that's a pipe dream.
>>577281350now it's pro-er
>>577281350Yeah but this is the new version. Just call it v4.1 pro.Anyway it's surprisingly good first few swipes, speaking as someone who has been incredibly tired of deepslop. I'm excited not to be disappointed.
>grok 4.6 releases at the literal same time as deepseek v4 proElon what the fuck are you doing
>>577280919H-how do I get it to show up on ST...
>>577281785twitter is like barely held together by duct tape and dalit programmers furiously vibecoding everything it's so weird he puts all this effort into grok and then the website you use it from shadowbans you for posting a youtube video or just won't let you into DMs at all lmao
>>577281835It replaces your normal deepseek-v4-pro if you're on Deepseek source, if you're on OpenRouter just set the provider for Deepseek V4 Pro to Deepseek until they get it figured out over there
Claude fucking sucks. People can shit on 4chan all they want nowadays but anons are still the most reliable source of up to date information. I would have happily kept plugging along using claude even if shit got worse and worse because I just didn't know there was better alternatives. I did my own research and testing afterwords and chose Aion 3 over DeepSeek V4 Pro and others but I want to thank anons for shitting on Claude because I'm enjoying my RPs a lot more now. I don't really do super extreme stuff but the fact I could easily get Aion to murderrape an incest loli is a good test that it doesn't give a fuck what it's asked to write which should honestly just be the standard.
>>577280919https://poal.me/ba9lr3https://poal.me/ba9lr3https://poal.me/ba9lr3
>>577281942When I tried DeepSeek 4 pro it literally just didn't work for some reason. It would just send a snippit of my prompt instructions back at me and I couldn't figure out what was wrong.
>>577281942Ooooo based
>>577282258Oh I forgot to disable new answers. Can you hurry the fuck up? We need hot takes here.
>>577282597you lost
>>577282675Not the nicest thing to do...
>>577280919Have they changed the pricing yet?
Yeah it's just a better DeepSeek v4 Pro. If you like DeepSeeks, you're going to continue liking DeepSeek, they didn't radically change it like K2 -> K3. Not much more to say about it just yet beyond that.
>>577280919can't notice much differenceretains god-tier context poisoning so i sighed with relief>>577282879yes, it's ~double
>>577282995Is initiative still non-existent, then?
>>577283379that's a card issue, not the model's
>>577282879Doesn't seem so.https://web.archive.org/web/20260807215402/https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/
>>577281374Did Chub ever fixed that bug where you'd get recommended the same card on multiple pages in a row?
>anons taking turns raping poalmakiecftf?
NTA, but that seems fixed
>>577262047Expensive for broketroons
Aagh, disgusting. They're not even subtle with their gay ass rigging dood omg good da evil cabal im gonna FUCK DUDE