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NO BALANCE CHANGES EDITION

[PoE 1]
>Curse of the Allflame
https://www.pathofexile.com/allflame
>3.29.3 Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3996516

[PoE 2]
>Retard of the Ancients
https://pathofexile2.com/ancients
>Ongoing 0.5.4b patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3980516

Resources
https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt

Last map:
>>579024876
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What is the purpose of 0.55 now?
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First for grace and decorum
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>no flails
>no knifes
>no axes
>no slings
>no darts
>no claws
>no templar
>no shadow
>no marauder
>no templar
>no halfling
>no circus artist
>no doppleganger
>no spy
>no heist
>no blight
>no lab
>no metamorph
>no scion
yep, they gave up on poo2
3.30 this year, thank god
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>25% of a "full release" missing is a GOOD thing
>it's all just a matter of definition
>taking 2x as long for early access as initially planned, all while delivering less content than initially planned is a GOOD thing
tub turd
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>>579067223
stall for time
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comparison is the thief of joy
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watch them not release acts 5 and 6 with 1.0 too
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>>579067257
>>579067238
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>>579067403
i wonder how this happened... oh yeah, ggg choking the life out of poe1 by cucking the dev team could what caused this
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>>579067454
>SABOTAGE
No, people just have a better game to play now
>>
Sell character skins that make you look like your ascend picture already
Why do you hate money
GGG hire me man
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>>579067403
>remove all hard farms from the game
>make scour&go the most lucrative farm
>no aspirational content or farms
guys why are you quitting the league so early?
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>>579067403
dude what the fuck. this isn't funny anymore
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>>579067540
most players don't do the hardest farms or aspirational content. most players just alch and go yellow or red maps.
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>>579067540
say the buzzword poopwunner
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>it's not sabotage to stop updating your old game for a year when the new comes
>it's not sabotage when the dev team of your old game gets cut down to a tired guy and a clueless faggot who is proud about making saaresh
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>>579067513
They already told us they plan to make it so your appearance changes FOR FREE to match the art when you ascend.
It's just not a priority for 1.0.

Maybe they will show it at exilecon.
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>>579067803
Most players see empty market because good players do not do hardest farms or aspirational content
And leave because ambush scarab is 25c which is absurd, and other gear barely exists as well or overpriced
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>>579067834
Alternative is end of service, take your pick
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>>579067803
yeah but now even the alch&goers are better off running scour&go, it's a shitshow, sadly. also, they were promising a big endgame rework for the last 2 or 3 leagues, and it never works out, i wonder why...
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>>579067979
i'll take EOS & cut your losses on poo2 any day, sadly sunk cost fallacy has captured woodful
he WILL polish the turd, if it takes him til the day he dies!
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I like PoE, but wunners are so profoundly insufferable faggots that I'm actively cheering for the game's demise.
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>immediately starts looping
grim
grim dawn fangs of asterkarn even
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>>579068081
you lost
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>>579067960
i'm in a guild with a bunch of average players. they don't run expensive scarabs, they don't have 6 slots unlocked, the don't have all their favorite maps unlocked, they don't have full point atlas passive trees, most of them don't even have 4 watchstones.
people are quitting because the game isn't fun anymore.
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>>579068295
>favorite maps
You don't play the game at all
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POOP
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>>579067403
They didn't really add anything new, i don't consider pacts a new thing

I'm still playing on my worst build yet
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>>579068378
>You don't play the game at all
true, i moved over to poe2 like everyone else.
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>>579068217
>I'm actively cheering for the game's demise
Many people are saying this
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I just realized we're probably not even getting ToTA in 1.0.
It's literally just gonna be full campaign, swords and 2 out of 3 Duelist ascendancies.
And they're gonna call it the complete release. Holy fuck. The audacity.
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>>579068217
this but 100% unironically
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>>579068426
I'm not saying you HAVE to be impressed by the new uniques they added, but they're really good
>subsume the source: completely transformative stat block, fun to make
>spinesnatch: super fresh 2h unique weapon, that's either the fastest unique wep in the game or something else entirely depending on how you equip it
>new timeless jewels and timeless jewels that change ascendancies
>chase unique rings that work on a million different builds (pearls)

Coupled with sweeping spell buffs, a league mechanic I actually enjoy running and comfy crafting, I pretty much couldn't be happier with Curse as a league.
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do you think jonatroon is not releasing more classes and weapons because he knows the moment every class weapon and ascendancy is out he will no longer have anything to bait people with and poe2 will finally have to stand on it's own feet as a game to draw people in at every league launch?
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>>579068646
they added builds/items, but they removed content and challenge. why would you wanna make a giga strong character if the "pinnacle" content is scouring your maps and running them as fast as you can?
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uh ohh poopiewunnie' big meltie today
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>>579068646
The majority of uniques they've added lately have been good, i will admit that. I heard they hired a new guy and he has been doing a good job for a little while
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cringe
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>no hard content
>*checks inside*
>doesn't do titanic blight
>doesn't do pilfering
>doesn't do anarchy
>doesn't do 100% delirious maps
>doesn't do deep delve
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>>579068852
people are going to play the game because it's good and they like it.
>but i hate it!!
ok?
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>>579069273
>doesn't do titanic blight
removed
>doesn't do pilfering
not hard
>doesn't do anarchy
best with mercs in scoured maps
>doesn't do 100% delirious maps
not hard and unrewarding
>doesn't do deep delve
lol
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>>579069273
Embarrassing post.
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>>579069389
post your 40/40
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>>579067129
I am thinking of coming back to POE2 for 0.5.5. Anon should I? or should I wait for 1.0?
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>>579068870
>but they removed content and challenge
Well what did they remove? Harb (indefensible if you like it, but I don't care), and some mirage-only stuff. I'd like some of that mirage-only stuff back but I'm really not particularly fussed about it, I liked POE just fine pre-mirage.

>challenge
I don't think that challenge is fundamentally removed from the game because 1-2 high-end farms have been nerfed. It's not like you can't run valdos, deep delve, or ultrajuiced maps.
Can you actually genuinely run an allflame of propagation, 2x nemeses, 1x divinity map with high % deli? Or exceptional exiles? I feel like even a mid-level "hard" farm like pilfering+plenty requires a pretty good character if you're running it on well rolled originator maps and with deli.
I don't want to attack you just for making the argument, I know there are legit high-end juicers in this thread, but it feels to me like a lot of the "no challenge" complaints come from people just parroting a streamer and not actually being anywhere near the existing aspirational content.
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>>579069475
sure, what league?
now post yours.
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>wunners have insane melties any time character power goes down
>wunners complain there's no hard content
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I'd rather run my maps scoured
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>>579069534
in the last couple leagues:
any hard/rewarding variation of blight
any hard/rewarding variation of rogue exiles
hard variations of alva
and they added nothing back, they constantly keep lowering the ceiling, without buffing anything in return.
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this thread really went to shit over the last few days
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>>579069553
honestly surprised someone here still plays poe 1
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>>579069701
true, 4chan is now full of redditors and normalfags
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>>579069761
post your legacy portal
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>no real PoE2 league
RIP
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>>579069662
the tubspammer and his samefag personalities are mad poe2 gets contenr
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post your kiwi
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>>579069841
anon, you are being unreasonable. it's only been 2 years, let them cook
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the future looks GRIM
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>>579069660
>and they added nothing back
abyss is new, allflame voyages and charts are new, anomalies are new.

>any hard/rewarding variation of rogue exiles
what's wrong with titanic exceptional exiles with boxes?

>they constantly keep lowering the ceiling
I'm fundamentally not bothered by this, I only care loot as a tool to further my character, I'm not invested in the div/h being at some specific level or going up. If div/h per juiced map is down for everyone, then it doesn't matter if it's down.
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>>579069868
sadly in 2012 i got the no-kiwi pack because poor
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let me get this straight. the "FULL" 1.0 release only adds 2 ascendencies? how about the other half? are they planned for the 2.0 expansion? lol
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>>579070029
post your legacy portal or you are a poser
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Yeah, we're only 2 years into the 6 months period Johnnyboi said they would need up to feature complete release. Why would they need to add anything to this event? You guys are just ungrateful and will never be happy.
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>>579070006
poopwunner fantasy
kek
cant make this shit up
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0.6 will fix everything
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Remember that Jonathan also liked the spear parry bullshit

So if he likes duelist, its probably shit
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>true release
>still endless atlas turd endgame
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>>579069882
going to be funny when 0.5.5 has a higher launch ccu than 3.29
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>>579070021
>abyss is new, allflame voyages and charts are new, anomalies are new.
yes, but abyss is both dogshit reward-wise, even after 2 rounds of buffs, and not really challenging. if (release version) abyss is the baseline for where mechanics should be they might aswell shut down poe1
anomalies are not new content, just old content repackaged and not challenging. also lol voyages

>what's wrong with titanic exceptional exiles with boxes?
they don't give loot. the way you did rogue exiles was giant exiles, and that got obliterated.

>I'm fundamentally not bothered by this, I only care loot as a tool to further my character, I'm not invested in the div/h being at some specific level or going up. If div/h per juiced map is down for everyone, then it doesn't matter if it's down.
the problem is that there is no need to further your character anymore, scouring your maps and running them as fast as possible is THE "aspirational" endgame loop, and you can do that with a day 2 character still half covered in act rares.
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>>579070191
spear parry was a test of whether you have over 80 IQ (not to try parrying a crowd of mobs) and at least a 5s reaction time (to press it at the right time) and the community failed it en mases.
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>>579070134
i'll post it when you post any form of achievement, but i am afraid you can't.
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>>579070313
it's a mechanic that sounds epic in some meeting room, but the moment you expect players to engage with it it falls apart, there is no way to defend jonathan's hubris.
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>poe2niggers unironically defending parry now
that's fucking crazy
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>>579070531
you don't understand, you need 140 iq to press a button in a game at the right moment, but of course a monkey like yourself wouldn't get it
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>>579070376
why didn't you play legacy league?
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>>579070313
Spear parry is fucking trash, because if your build actually needs parry debuff to function (which is the kind of gameplay Johnathan likes btw), you can spend up to 5 minutes in some boss fights to wait for the boss to an attack you can actually parry to get a single instance of debuff for a total of ONE (1!) attack that uses said debuff. Some bosses just spam slam after slam. And many boss attacks are still unparryable despite not even being classified as slam.
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>>579070252
>but abyss is both dogshit reward-wise,
no it isn't, it drops a screen worth of scarabs per skitterbox, and the rares are well juiced through the property of inheriting rare mods, and frequently drop divs, valdos etc.

> not really challenging
Put in the consort scarab kek.

>anomalies are not new content, just old content repackaged
That applies to all content really, but okay, I'll give you that one.

>also lol voyages
Lol what? Voyages print.

>they don't give loot
How many exceptional exiles have you killed to come to this assessment?

>the problem is that there is no need to further your character anymore
Why not? Don't you want to be able to run mageblood valdos or 1000 card pilfering maps?

>scouring your maps and running them as fast as possible is THE "aspirational" endgame loop
This is pure cope, I'm not gonna go through 500 maps per an hour just so I can grab a few divs from gambler's district, rather kill fat fucking rares and a crowd of Destructive Play+pandemonium bosses.
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>>579070770
i killed enough exiles with wild mercs this league to get 2 magebloods and 2 headhunters, but exiles never give shit.
>swooning over boring box loot
lol
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>>579070770
>abyss loot comes from boxes just like anything else does now
grim
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>>579070485
>it's a mechanic that sounds epic in some meeting room
It is fucking epic, it's cool to parry a boss and own it back with greatly increased damage. I understand it's not for everyone but it's implemented just fine, it's seamless and doesn't cost you much to use, can be used to animation cancel for ultra-high skill gameplay, and it's an extra button to press to do more damage, which is a reasonable addition to the game the same way a warcry or a curse is.

>>579070698
>you can spend up to 5 minutes in some boss fights to wait for the boss to an attac
Just get Calgyra's.

>And many boss attacks are still unparryable
A metric fuckton of boss attacks are parryable.
https://youtu.be/R-nLivVSPE0?t=278
I'm gonna be honest, parry is 10x less annoying to use than Earthshatter, which bugs out when there's a hole or ground geography.
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>>579071084
it is in a game like dark souls, i loved parrying bosses there.
but it's dogshit in a mindlessly-grind-for-12-hours game
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I ran scepter with malice/discipline instead of a buckler
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>>579070887
So just admit it plainly, you killed 0 (zero) exceptional rogue exiles this league.

>>579071002
The box drops scarabs, other boxes are shit. The rares drop normal loot and they're good for loot because they have double the number of mods in practice. I'd tell you what the consort drops, but I think 0.00001% of this thread has actually killed a juiced consort (not the one in the depths) so I don't want to spoil the surprise.
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6 months until pokemon bank is closed and I still have to play 0.5.5 because of fomo. This is literally rape. you're raping me, jonaton
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>>579071084
hello woodful, how do you like gamescom?
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>>579071196
i would have, if they gave any form of worthy rewards. but they don't. challenge is good when it gates good rewards, and it's dogshit for the challenge's sake.
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>>579071158
I think the current implementation, with all the QoL they added, is fundamentally fine.
You parry in 1v1s, and you eschew parry while clearing packs, and the game lets you do that just fine as parry isn't the sole source of charges.

>>579071253
You couldn't pay me to go to a con kek, all the games are awful slop from what I can tell from the first day stream too.
Anyway I would like parry in a vacuum because I'm a cringe nerd, and I like parry even more because it filters shitters. It's like an overpowered fighting game character retards can't use because the moveset confuses them.
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>>579071084
>ultra-high skill gameplay
Holy shit, you are straight up living in a different reality.
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>>579071253
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>I got ANOTHER Box!
>3BOX IS REAL
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>>579071253
i wonder what he would think if he knew there was some mentally ill guy on 4chan that spamming his middle name 16 hours a day.
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>>579071373
anon, i don't know what version of poo2 you are playing but the version i play, and see others play, is the version where a boss never lives for long enough to get parried. are you maybe a shitter who expects everyone else to be a shitter with him?
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>>579071223
>0.5.5
>fomo
what exactly are you worried about missing out on
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>>579071367
I don't value your input if you didn't even try the content.
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>>579071451
i got the reveal first box. then got another 30 minutes ago, wheres my third box?
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>>579071549
anon, the content gives you zero reasons to do it.
actually, i am bored, post a tree, map and scarab setup and i'll do 10 maps of it and then laugh at you for finding it challenging.
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>>579071492
nta but mechanics that involve interacting with the content are always going to be more relevant in ssf. just ignore stuff if you know you're not going to need to bother doing it.
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Why did they have to make it a challenge league? No one wants to play this nothingburger.
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>>579071827
even SSFags just kill things in seconds, only people i see parry are dadgamers having the time of their lives running the campaign once, only to never return again
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>>579071830
>the only reason 0.5.5 had a higher player count than 3.29 is because everyone had challenge fomo
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>>579071830
You answered your own question there lil gup
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>>579071451
Got an Otter
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>>579071943
>even SSFags just kill things in seconds
only if you're overgeared. if you're trying to progress as fast as possible you have to use combos.
go watch the races to see what the actual best players do, parrying is part of it and GGG didn't even add the 1.0 reworks to make it easier yet.
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>>579071639
You missed the race box I guess
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>>579071943
do you watch dadgamer lets play slop on youtube or something?
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>>579071451
can you beat this
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I still haven't finished my 0.5 challenges :x At least I'll only need to kill Divinity one more time instead of four
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>>579072093
where is this from?
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>>579071414
Using a movement skill then canceling the end of the animation with parry/raise shield is high-skilled gameplay to me, because it takes mechanical skill. You're welcome to disagree, but something tells me you didn't even know about that.

>>579071492
I don't like the larp where we pretend that you start the game with a temporalis character, you have to progress to assrape instakill gear, even though the threshold is pretty low.

> are you maybe a shitter
Yes bro I'm a shitter, a shitter of turds into your ugly fat brown mom's mouth.
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>>579072054
while that is true, i don't see one of the best players to sperg out over parry being really good.
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>>579071979
Jelly. I got the tiny ass ship hideout. Like, 90% of map devices don't even fit on that shit.
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>>579072093
what's the context of this footage? it's clearly the same as the well of souls > kulemak animation.
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>>579072145
>he struggles during campaign
what is this, 0.1?
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>>579072210
It's a gimmick of the whale tier supporter hideout
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>>579072176
yeah it's not worth putting points into. but basic parry adds damage to bursty things like owl twister spam and that helped out in endgame before I had a really good spear

until I fought a boss in a large room like AssArbiter or Bodach at which point I was fucked
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>>579072278
My campaign times are probably genuinely 1/2 yours, on HC fresh stash, and I'm a slow player.
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>>579072130
Poe2 hideout lets you kys
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>>579072391
for sure, parryfag. i don't even play poo2.
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>>579072406
Very trans-coded game. No wonder Lily loves it so much.
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>>579072464
It's not like I needed any confirmation that you don't know anything about the game kek, filtered shitter
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>>579069662
People are lashing out over 0.5.5 flopping bigly.
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>>579072464
>i don't even play poo2.
woah we had no idea bro
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>>579072130
https://youtu.be/WMo3RYyr4vY?t=1972
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>>579072464
I kneel.
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>>579072878
you kneel to suck cock, you sissy faggot.
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>>579073024
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>no balance changes because we want to get them right for 1.0
Call me crazy, but I just might have an idea on how to get a bunch of testing and feedback on your planned changes.
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I randomly found this video about Sorcery: Contested Realm and dude namedropped PoE
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If Quin plays, I'll play. Doesn't seem worth unless you are trying to be a challenge completionist in POE 2.
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>>579073093
>newfag still thinks ggg tests things
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>>579073059
sorry wrong image
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cringe
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>>579073127
it's made by one of the co founders of ggg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LurKRjYgFps
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This post has never been more accurate.
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>>579073226
>players who started with poo2 also have lower expectations and grasp concepts slower
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Jonathan literally falling asleep during the announcement didn't help
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This time we shit the tub so good, you guys won't know what hit you!
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>>579073093
Sometimes it feels like they're really tired of developing the game and that they take every opportunity to procrastinate and go "ah fuck it, do that one later".
It's either that, or there's a gigantic disconnect between what they see as priorities and what players see as priorities. Sometimes it's crazy to me how little shit they make for patches for either game, but then they put absurd amount of design effort into something like different player dialogue options or how intricate the league mechanic grid setup is.
I think the pinnacle of this is the fact that they added dialogue to expedition members back in 0.1 or 0.2, explaining why they traveled back in time with the player. As if anyone would say "hey but why are these guys back in the vaal era with us". Just kek. That's the kind of shit they think of, instead of, you know, new skills and weapon types.
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>>579073270
Nice
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>>579073423
It's the one thing I don't fault him on. He had been working at Gamescom for like 16+ hours a day before the stream which happened at 10pm his time and still made sure to be present for announcing this absolute nothingburger. His game might be a turd, but he's incredibly passionate about it. If he was just out to scam people, he wouldn't need to be doing this.
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>>579073572
it's pretty clear that the game they wanted to make (0.1) and the game people want is not the same thing.
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>>579069861
"saaaaar everyone is the tubful!!!!!"
lol the jeetest post ever made
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>>579073746
you lost
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>>579067403
the league is ass undeniably, but really who gives a fuck after first 2 weeks anyway? get your 40/40 and fuck off lmao
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>>579073774
that's the poowunner cope now?
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>>579073774
mazed
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>only 1 person in the whole thread dislikes poo2
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>Poo 2'ers are coping so hard over 0.5.5 being trash that they would rather talk shit about the good game
LMAO
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how do I claim this bad boy?
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>>579073767
-1 izzat :^)
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>>579073994
forgot pic
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>>579073897
there's like 1 person left playing poop1 so it seems fitting
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>>579073741
shitters couldn't afford good builds in 0.1 so they all thought the game was supposed to be slow as fuck.
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>>579074153
Keep refreshing until the website can bruteforce through jeet coding.
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>>579073774
I'm noticing that there's an incredibly high correlation between not enjoying a league (any league) really and being a challengefag.
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0.5.5 flopped
3.30 waiting room
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>>579073774
it's been what, 14 years? at this point they need something as big as another atlas expansion to get me interested for more than that
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>>579074310
i did enjoy it though, leveled two luminaries to test them side by side with life stacking and aura botting, there's just no point sticking around after trying all new shit
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>>579074240
every build that turned out to be good/fast in 0.1 was only so because of GGG's mistakes they started nerfing stuff early on, but the backlash made them stop (see cast when freeze)
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>>579074508
>luminareddit
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>>579074247
turns out that if you go to an active poe2 channel, there is a button under the chatbox which opens a dialogue with a claim button that actually fucking works.

I found an entire page of redditors with the same problem
https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/1vym6hb/twitch_inventory_wont_let_me_claim_twitch_drop/
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>>579074310
challengefags don't need to enjoy things to end up doing them, that's why they're challengefags.
its very much a "tell me what to do daddy" mindset.
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>>579072075
i logged into another twitch account, linked it with ggg, watched 30 minutes and claimed another box LOL
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I just realized there's a new box is this still working?
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>>579074830
see >>579074629
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>>579074581
literally every league since 0.1 had zooming screen clearing builds.
the only part of the game that was deliberately slowed down was map completion with rare hunting, and that was obviously just there to test the new map generator because the removed rare hunting once they sorted out the bugs.
ggg didn't change the vision or whatever, people are just slightly less shit at the game now.
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>>579074921
you are misunderstanding what i am trying to say: 0.1 was the version of the game they wanted to make, super slow and hated by the community. anything that was not slow was bugged or unintended. with 0.2, and even moreso with 0.3 they gave up on that vision and are now dragging their feet.
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we're still doing this cope
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>pillar gemling was bugged and unintended
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>80 hour challenges for a statue
ugh
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>>579075018
0.2 was slower than 0.1 you silly non-poe2 player.
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>>579075018
They can't bring themselves to admit that the original game flopped and GGG had to cave to the playerbase. They would lose izzat.
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What do we think of the Trial of Chaos changes?
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>>579075018
0.1 wasn't super slow.
and they always said mapping would be zoom zoom and juice, before 0.1 even launched.
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>>579075280
I'm interested in using it to solve the fact that GGG decided to make the game not drop any greater/perfect transmute or augmentation.
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2 boxes are real
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>>579075338
they also said beta was 6 months, up to 12 months. how'd that turn out?
it is a well-known fact that they are constantly lying.
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>>579075280
Good that they listened, but who gives a fuck honestly? Fuck ToC.



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