Visual Novel General #7838This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriatly when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>579228872
What would you do in this situation?
>>579254601>annual MUMBAImasa festival HFK
>>579254679Either !? or ? I think.
>>579254601Kill yourself
KINOmasa
what's the lore behind the steins;gate poster? I haven't been to /vn/ much>t. lurker from 2021
>>579254823top off rinny
>>579254948maho saved SG 0
>>579254948he is a servant to redman
Has moege ever made you cry, bros?
>>579255250i've never cried to fiction. i do cry whenever i get a fever. idk why.
>>579255187redmans still on the loose? jesus>>579255176love maho
>>579255349
>>579255250Gore Screaming Show did, yeah.
I cry when I see oppai. From my dick, I mean.
I need a rimjob
>>579255349>be floodtroon>/djt/ reject>eternal dekinai>obsessed with jops>weird obsession with steins;gate>neet>retarded>fat>poorhe also posts vndb links, reddit and ranks all the timeuser of ai sloppa and gooooog posts
>>579255432I cry for real cuz they get into my eyes.
>>579255729rin blushing up to her ears in the anime was cute
My first post ITTORETSUBA~!
oppai
unravel trigger cold war doko?https://vndb.org/v55273
>>579256238She'd be better in a yurige
>>579255905For me it's because I don't blink when they're on-screen.
>>579256238Rape correction needed.
>>579256320I need more white woman sex
>>579256320>cold warSo like, nothing happens?
Thoughts on moles?
>>579257049fine. i don't have a fetish or hatred of them.
The future of Azurashi Soft works is depicting highschoolers with the bodies of 20+ year old women.
The future of eroge is ohogoe
>>579257343whatever happened to depicting 1000 year old dragons with the bodies of lolies
>>579257343And 3Ps.
>>579257049Gross skin defects that don't belong in the 2D realm
I love 5000 year old wizards.
>>579257343>the bodies of 20+ year old women.That's peak female physique so I can understand
>>579257520Women peak from 17-23
>>57925764013-15*
>>579257397Our masters at Visa and Mastercard said you can't do that.
>>579257706Fuck off pdf
>>57925770612-15
What could've been...https://x.com/nijikonhitler/status/2093807218281832799/video/1
>>579257706Kill yourself
>>579258059
>>579258117Why does her helmet have a defloration creampie pattern?
Large
Frieren > VNs
>>579258508Hi Karenschizo
>>579258508frieren was only good when it was depicting 5-10 years per episode
>>579258447Medium.
>>579258664Stop talking about yourself in third person nigga
>>579258969Mind your own business
>Mind your own business
Karenschizo is really mad huh
What would the hero Himmel do
ORETSUBAA
>>579259421Kill yourself
>>579259421Neck yourself
paaaaaaaaaiotsu
>>579258447ge?
>>579259421Himmel is already a cuck in the source anyway.
>>579259580https://vndb.org/v66155
>>579259605Kill yourself
Well, one route down. If this was the end of the VN I would say that it was easily the worst moege I've ever played. Hopefully some of the other routes are better.
Any vn which is like pokemon?
>>579259687Reina's is the best.
>>579259509>>579259558Are you happy now?
>>579259773Benis Blood
>>579259849You're not funny
>>579259605Just like Karenschizo geg
>>579259687JOPs overrated it because of one route
>>579259849You are a funny guy
>>579259849I never belived it even once.
>>579259849Rokuhana...
>>579259849FPBP
I've never played muramasa but why is that guy so infamous? his wiki page is like one paragraph
>>579260389Read Umineko.
>>579260389His philosophy resonates with the masses
>>579260389One of his lines was funny out of context and it got spammed a lot.
>>579260696what was the line
>>579260714I feel hopeless that my life will never end. I never belived it even once.
>>579260456that not safe for work
Reading VNs makes me accumulate certain low density forms of matter
>>579260918Cum?
>>579260714He was refferring to a mecha he created
Any VN characters like picrel, personality-wise?
>>579260932No, that's high density
>>579261027But it's not a solid.
>>579259637Translated day 1 by Sol 5.6
It was a thrust like lightning.
>>579260962Why exactly did Arunaru make him black?
>>579260918Moid post
>>579261356it was moogy, but he did say bring a 黒人 in the originalno cock line tho
>>579254493Is this what LOSE is up to nowadays?
>>579261586Lose is now whisp and they only helped publish sickly days
>>579261518Moogy is a member of the bibisi cult too?
>>579260978>know it all assholeThe Juice.
>>579261446it's her voice that gets me
>>579261907the cartel worships bobs
>>579260978>faustian bargain>hides real personality behind a comedic demeanor>all knowing
Muramasa ever going to be on steam? Want to excuse to reread it ngl.
>>579262125https://youtu.be/DzD76g4BlQA?list=RDDzD76g4BlQA
>>579262297Already rejected, so no
>faustian bargain>hides real personality behind a comedic demeanor>all knowing
>>579262424what faustian bargain does k1 accept?
>>579262297No but you can buy it on GOG.com
>>579262374
>>579262519GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
New Qruppo when?New Clochette when?New SAGA PLANETS when?3+ when?Totsuraba one rooms when?
New inre when?
>>579262125You just made remember that FSN was the second VN I read after Tsukihime, and since Tsukihime didn't have voice acting I initially thought the voices in Fate were annoying and muted them so I never got to read it voiced.
>>579262858you need to reread it then because it sounds like you read it 20 years ago. illya and rider have the sexiest voices
>>579262916yani neko
>>579262913Redman VA did rly good job too or gil or lancer or shinji.>inb4 homoNo they are my real niggas
>>579262297Some other publisher could take a crack at it like others have with previously rejected games. Really just depends if other publishers feel like it's worth the investment to negotiate with nitro+ to license it.
>>579263063Zouken and True Assassin for me.
>>579263063I agree. I was talking about sexiness though.
>>579263063Male voices are always the most important in a kamige.
Good 20 to 5 AM /vn/ hope alls well
despicable...
Retro gamer girlfriend. Nice.
I haven't read an interesting game with a maid heroine in years. Why did they die off?
>>579264154By "old games" they mean Dark Souls, btw.
Ok!
>>579264180It's a lack of 性奴隷メイド heroines
>>579264317read that as >But even if it gets fate
>>579256325
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever bothered to make a family tree of the super fucked up incest yakuza artist family in the Sakura franchise? I mostly want to see it because of how much of it would lead back to this guy.
She thinks of everything
>>579264180nobody has maids anymore
>>579264524I'm sure rich people do. They probably do actually molest them too.
Any VNs where you solve mysteries and execute the murderers?
Chudrisu....
>>579264667compensated dating is part of the job description
>>579264468I dont think they give us enough details to tell, the only thing we do know is a good chunk of the heroines are his daughters
>>579264180Bro you're never gonna believe this.
She's both small and big. I love it.https://files.catbox.moe/xv0iw2.pngAfter:https://files.catbox.moe/nljnh6.png
>>579264698>Manosaba (the one the girl you posted is from)>Danganronpa>Rain CodeThere might be others
>>579265000>an interesting game
I hope the all ages mystery genre disappears
>>579265035Got 3dayed once for posting something like this btw, how gay and retarded this site can be sometimes.
>>579264698
>>579265105I don't, I want the Shigatsu Youka remake to come out.
>>579265056I thought it was interesting and had a good time reading it. Perhaps you would too if you gave it a chance. If not, I'm still glad you tried.
https://files.catbox.moe/zd94yc.pngI guess she is...
>>579265189He's really hyping it up on twitter, I'm excited but I wish he'd give us at least a release window.
>>579264698kara no shoujo
>>579265415>defined nosekimoi...
>>579265660Raging Loop is really good until it gets terrible, it's worth reading for the good parts.
>>579254734Lol
>>579265660
>>579265916Bwo this is a massive spoiler for the VN even if it doesn't look like it out of context.
>>579266047I know the word autistic gets tossed around a lot but I think several /vn/ posters may legitimately have diagnosable neurodivergence that's affecting their quality of life in a negative way.
>>579265869raging loop never gets terrible
>>579266146lol
>>579265869Like most mysteryge, it struggles to land when all the mysteries are revealed. The only reason I like the last chapter of Higurashi is because I was too invested in the characters.
>>579266047Me on the right
>>579266146Brother the fourth route is literally just them reading books and dumping exposition to explain the plot and the explanations are really, really bad. And the fifth route is worse.The game turns to shit after it stops being a game of werewolf and starts trying to actually explain the mysteries.
HFOretsuba
As someone who didn't watch the FSN anime first, I enjoyed the mysterious aspects of the vn and learning the world via Rin's exposition dumps especially with this playing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCOTWQexTjs
>>579266339I don't know what this means.
What was that one VN website we all used to use that had VN news but also just hosted VNs for free but eventually stopped hosting them called?
>>579266420RokuharaVN.org
>>579266420It was Fuwanovel and "we all used it" is a stretch.It was pretty funny that if you downloaded a copy of an eroge of the site it included a text file that was a message from the site's owner about piracy that was so completely schizophrenic it was mostly ranting about burning hatsune miku dolls.
>>579266412Oretsuba = kino
>>579266509Make it.
>>579266420Idk, but probably fuwa.Also, that was ages ago bro, I got into vns around 12 years ago (probably more). And even then thay had already stoped hosting vns
>>579266547Yeah that's what I was thinking of. I remember downloading my first VN from there. (Wanko to Kurasou)
We just don't have the tubas. Blame the bra ban.
>>579266792I was so sad when I learned Bra Ban was about a Brass Band and not about a world where brassieres were illegal.
>go to a random r/visualnovels thread>they're talking about JOPocalypse and EOP World OrderI thought that acronym shit was contained to here
>>579267073/vn/ rules the visual novel space.
>>579266982Bro...
>>579267106pubes
would you marry a cup?
>>579266982
>>579267158
>>579265301Not him should I just wait for the tl? I read way too slow in jp otherwise.
You know, there's an implausibly large number of very young kids who are super painting geniuses in the Sakura series. I kinda find it less believable than the magic.
>>579267374https://vndb.org/r163740
Oh boy, im genuinelly getting nervous
>>579265301What's your top ten VNs?
>>579267383Kind of agree, especially with everyone glazing Kei as this one in a million genius, but we only see one mid painting that instantly gets overshadowed by Rin's and almost every other sinlge painter in the vn
>>579267374Just read the Sol 5.6 patch, not like some shit from Shiravune would be any better.
>>579267383>implausiblyBecause they go to the expensive private school on a scholarship?
>>579267374You should read VNs in whatever way makes you happiest.
Shira tls are kind of weirdSome times they absolutelly fuck up like on nukitashi 1but sometimes they cook like they did on henpri
>>579267919I read them in Turkish text to speech
>>579267971Because they have like 30 different translators they use
>>579267971>Some times they absolutelly fuck up like on nukitashi 1Shiravune didn't TL nukitashi 1. Xev did. Then Sol Press collapsed and Shiravune bought the finished TL. The Nukitashi 1 TL is famous because the translator read it and thought they must've thrown out all of his work and started over since he didn't recognize a single sentence and didn't realize it was still his until the credits. The editor completely rewrote every line.
>>579267971Comes down to the editor probably.
>>579267971I hate when they release shit like Criminal Border part 1 or Restless Sheep that look like they received no QA due to the insane amount of typos and general mistakes in the text.
>>579267886There are characters in Sakutoki who have 10+ year careers as painters winning multiple major national and international competitions at like 16.
>>579267073Those are the ones spamming mao shit here. Did you really think all that spam was organic? Unfortunately /vn/ is constantly being overrun by retards like that
>>579268374Shit girl.
God I wish white women were real
>>579268374If a heroine is raped by tentacles but then she gets put in a new body that's a virgin, and you have sex with her, is that virgin sex?
>fanTLkeeps Oxford comma>MTLdrops Oxford comma
>>579268374how come she's not the retard bunny anymore?
>>579268327Which is probably why the school brought them in.
>>579268509vndb, we need new tags: mental virgin, physical virgin, total virgin
>>579268537No because she's not going to the actually good art school, she wants to but she's not allowed because the principal hates her because her uncle is a turbo rapist
>>579268537smartber
>Cocoro>KoikataWhich one of those should I read first?
I was lying awake last night and the thought occurred to me that if they ever dubbed FSN they'd have to give Saber a British accent and the thought horrified me.
>>579268881Cocoro
>>579268882That would be based though
>>579268882at least she could say excalibur then
>>579268882American voice actors are better
>>579268882https://youtu.be/ix4thQNoXIAsounds good to me
>>579269052yuck, shan't even click
the last good dub was code geass
I read every line in VNs out loud and dub them myself.
>>579269168>code gay ass
>>579269208Based chuunige enjoyer
>>579269208This (in Japanese)
>>579269302How good is your buhiii, ikuuu?
oppai.
>>579269458>/vn/: I love oppai!>/vn/: I hate oppai!>Director/Writer of Milk Factory VNs: I am quite fond of Red Dead Redemption 2.
>>579269543
>/vn/: I love Oretsuba!
>>579269657I don't think /vn/ loves Oretsuba, but that's okay, they haven't played it. They probably would if they had.
>/vn/: I love men!
night night
>>579269717/vn/ will play when MAO translates it
>>579269773>Ooe announced for 2026 release>3 months left in 2026>No updatesMangagameeeeeeeeeerrrr!
>>579269806ThisTotal JOP Genocide
>snoretsuba
>fujos
>>579269717I've played it and think it's okay and nothing special
/vn/ is not ready for "best girl in the entire fucking medium" Asuka
>>579269215This never gets old.
>>579270062Oops! I posted the wrong image, pic related is the true heroine of Oretsuba.
Oretsuba will change my life
>>579270062Asuka love
>>579270062>Her entire design screams generic boring main heroine who eill end up being the most forgettable of them all>Is unironically the best girl in the entire vn, and probably the best in the entire Navel catalogueHow did they do it
>>579270370but enough about nagisa
>>579270370By making her a huge bitch in a lovable way
>>579270410She's good, but she's no Asuka.
>>579270150There's nothing in it that is intended to rouse you to action or impart profound wisdom or shatter your worldview or preconceived notions. It's not that kind of VN.
>>579270565>rouse you to action or impart profound wisdom or shatter your worldview or preconceived notionsOkay give me VNs that does this
>>579270645Unironically Henpri.
>>579270565>t. seething baby jop
I wish I was a normalfag
>>579270753It sucks, man. It fucking sucks. Reading moege is so much better.
>>579270645WA2 taught me to not let my fiancée stop me from finding my wife
I miss Hata
>>579271119It doesn't work because she's using RP vocally but also cockney slang, you mixed up two different accents and mashed them together. For Americans, it's like if somebody from New York came up to you with a New York accent and said "Well howdy there pardner".
yep redman wonned again
>>579271221Why are you up at 6 in the morning, Nigel?
>>579271254It truly does be like that.
>>579271275Have to go to work
I love Karen
>>579271221>For Americans, it's like if somebody from New York came up to you with a New York accent and said "Well howdy there pardner".This doesn't make sense because nobody in America outside of movies say that either
>>579270753As in you want to be content with grueling wageslavery all day long and come home to a wife who spends your hard-earned money on sexy lingerie that she wears for another man because she suffers from postpartum depression and hates you and your kids, who will grow up to hate you partly because of your wife and partly because of the education system and media?
I have tracked down the origins of Coquimba....
>>579271543
>>579271635What
Is it true that AI translations are good now? Quof said so.
>>579271908Yes. We are all waiting for Oretsuba to be translated soon.
>>579271635GAAAAAAAAAG
>>579271908Everything Quof says is wrong. I'll never understand people think he's someone you should listen to and not an upjumped /vn/ shitposter.
>No fan translator wants to do Oretsuba since the cartel will murder them>No official company wants to do Oretsuba because it's too old>AI "gods" won't do it because it'll expose AI TLs as still being pretty shittyIs this the actual only untranslatable VN?
>>579271908see>>579215984
>>579271998>Everything Quof says is wrong.He's correct about LiL tho
>>579271998Go back
>>579271998He was right about Lessons in Love.
>>579271635I almost spit out my drink fuck you anon
>>579272029No, that's Amairo Islenauts.
AI god won https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/1w1ok84/a_serious_look_at_gpt56_sol_translations/
>>579271908Regardless how good AI is or not, I think it's hilarious that quof so confidently said that after only reading 100 lines.
>>579272252And he's right about those 100 lines so what's your point?
If AI is so good, where's my AI oppaibot? Checkmate
I'm thinking Dissonance won
>>579271712Coquimba is the main anon responsible for the manosaba spam. ArchiveCHAD tracked him down and found out he lives in coquimbo chile. But since xhe's a troon, xhe has been dubbed coquimba.
>>579271908see>>579266047
>>579271543I don't think it's that bad broI see a lot of happy married couples all the time
>>579272307I agree. Dissonance represents a compelling evolution of the visual novel medium, offering a more sophisticated and innovative experience than many traditional Japanese visual novels. While conventional visual novels often rely on established character archetypes, predictable narrative structures, and familiar genre conventions, Dissonance distinguishes itself through its emphasis on nuanced storytelling, immersive atmosphere, and meaningful character development. The work demonstrates a willingness to challenge conventional expectations while effectively utilizing the strengths of the visual novel format to create a deeper and more engaging narrative experience. By combining strong thematic elements with distinctive presentation and carefully constructed characterization, Dissonance illustrates the potential of visual novels to transcend traditional formulas and appeal to audiences seeking something more ambitious, memorable, and narratively complex. It's not just an EVN - it's the future of VNs.
>>579271908AI is already better than the average JOP troonslator and you'd have to get to the really good translators to get noticeably better translations. AI with good prompting and light editing to fix some pronouns, etc. will basically have 0 difference in enjoyment for a reader compared to a human TL in 99% of VNs.
>>579272327How do we stop Coquimba
I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!
>>579272401That's what I thought too.
What does moogy has to say about AI MTL?
>Do you remember the first time we touched hands? It happened on accident on the floor of your bedroom. At first I thought there was no way you would ever see me in that light, but when all of the other lights burnt out and I was still there, I finally understood. You were just as broken as me, and I knew then and there that I would fall into you.VNs for this feel?
>>579272561How come you guys care about what Moogy and Quof have to say but you never care about what I have to say? ;_; my opinions matter too ;_;
>i read the first 100 lines of this translationQuit cross posting your reddit posts here queef
>my first crush >look her name up in the name register >Le gasp >tfw her name is Oretsuba
>>579272656I feel the kino.
>>579272717>Only 100 lines100 lines from VNs that are 50,000 lines long is hardly a representative sample of the TL quality of either the original or the AI, what the fuck does he think this proves? It's just Quof being a lazy hack as usual, he loves reading 5 minutes of a VN then complaining about how it's shit.
>>579272457He was stopped at first by being exposed by archiveCHAD, then came back for revenge and started spamming manosaba art and fgo art using his 4chan pass. Then anons invoked the power of Troonbane to have mods smite him and delete all his spam. He will return again one day and when that day comes, Troonbane must be summoned again.
>>579272252The agent has access to a persistent lookup store where it can save terminologies for consistency and it has access to scene level and overall summaries so it's not just your usual "feed a bunch of text sequentially and polish the output with another agent"
>>579272702Because they have been in the community since the beginning and you are basically a newcomer compared to them
>>579271218TITS
>KINOsaba had two threads in a rowKiiiiiiiiiiik, they can't stop winning
Every VN needs long oppai, pubes and ohogoe
>>579272781>VNs that are 50,000 lines longim pretty sure bst is WAY longer than that, thats like only 2 routes worth of lines on a medium size vn
>>579271908He said AI TL is at a level that with editorial it could be workable, but the majority of the people doing AI TL are idiots that don't even bother to QC what they get out of the machine once it's done.
>>579272927Lord Byron had 30+ threads in a row
gambs loves AI too, the AI takeover of JOPs will soon be finished. All JOPs will bow down to AI in the future.
>>579272947That's not what we said while reviewing BST MTL.
>>579272859>You are a newcomer compared to themOh my god people think I'm younger than Quof and started after him now.
>>579272850You didn't read to the point where any of that matters. Why don't MTLers want to read MTLs?
I'll only care about AI when I get breedable moebots. I don't care about translations.
>>579272435So true
>>579272859>Because they have been in the community since the beginningThere was a fucking DECADE between Quof and Moogy starting and neither was there from the beginning jesus christ you newfags literally just make shit up and then believe itthis is an absolutely fucking insane post that's wrong on every level.
>>579273075Why is she made of chcolate?
>>579273035You were still learning Japanese while he was doing sansha mendan. You're also too tech illiterate to give your opinion on this. You probably think MTLbros use the chat interface.
>>579273142>You probably think MTLbros use the chat interface.you don't?
Its him
>>579273142>You were still learning Japanese while he was doing sansha mendanAnon, I'm literally the guy that taught Quof how to hack Harem Guild and encouraged him to start translating back in /hgg/ over a decade ago>You probably think MTLbros use the chat interface.They don't?
>>579273120Why are you speaking facts let me revise and control the history
>>579273120Still an oldfag compared to moeanon
Cu doesnt like burgers huh
>>579273120then who was the first JOP translator on 4chan?
>>579273434your mom
This slut does not look innocent
>AI
What would Conjueror think of AI?
Why do so few artists draw areolar glands surrounding the nipples?https://files.catbox.moe/tc2vv6.jpg
>>579273534Aren't half the characters in fgo used goods anyway
>>579273589You can tell this guy is a fake Sei Shoujo fan who only posts Sei Shoujo for attention and (You)'s and doesn't truly love Sei Shoujo because today is Discipline's 24th anniversary and you didn't even mention it.
Hmm
>>579273581He would toe the cartel line and denounce it.
I still can't read hard kanji.
>>579273649>he keeps track of product anniversariesAutism speaks
>>579273604FGO girls are based on historical and mythological figures, so almost all of them have had sex. Which is a good thing, since it means they know how to make men feel good.
>>579273434Moogy's not even a translator. He just demanded a credit if people used TLwiki so now people who only look at VNDB think he worked on a ton of projects when the reality is he's never translated shit. He's literally just an attentionwhore, like everyone else in the cartel, that newfags somehow think the opinions of matter because they're very stupid.
>>579273604>type-cucklol
The west will fall.>>579273604I have clanker chat setup to check their purity status before i invest resources, suprisingly non virgins are rare.
>>579273698Just Grok it
Just found the sakura no uta review while going through conjueror website https://vnrw.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/vn-sakura-no-uta/
>>579273604>>579273791
>>579273754>he doesn't know
>>579273791>I have clanker chat setup to check their purity status before i invest resources
>>579273816>Unfortunately, the initial chapter of the game starts very slow, and apart from a few foreshadowing parts, incredibly generic, full of pace slumbering light-hearted comedy and slice of life. It’s obvious it was written early in Scaji’s career, as while not particularly impressive prose-wise, it doesn’t even offer that much of an interesting plot, and only introduces the characters at bestThis is true>Interestingly enough, some characters in parts written by Scaji, like Rin, actually have more of a presence in other routes than their own, her route being just a fairly simple romantic story with a couple of dark revelations that only really come into play in the later routes.This is true (and bad)>Oddly enough, my favorite part from the whole thing is the exploration of Yumi’s and Rina’s relationship in their route that only indirectly touches upon the overarching story??? What the fuck this is like saying the best part of Subahibi is LGI>Negative: The ending leaves room for a sequel (if ten years weren’t enough)HehGood review, I'd rate it an 7.5/10 on the review scale.
>>579273816>Seriously, if Scaji wasn’t writing visual novels, I’d expect his name to come up among Nobel Prize laureates in a year or two — I definitely read less profound books of the guys that actually won the prize.
>>579273816>Nowhere near as mind-blowing philosophy-wise as Subarashiki Hibilol
>>579273816>Positive:>Beautiful, flowing prose>Very-well written, amusing H scenesWhat did bro mean by this?
>>579273964Thats not so different from reality if you think about it, no cave man would want to raise someone else child.
I liked Sakuuta way more than Subahibi.
>>579273816His thoughts were provoked
JOPs have terrible taste, I'd sooner trust ChatGPT reviews.
>>579273965>https://vnrw.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/vn-sakura-no-uta/Did he even live to play Toki?Was it lifechanging enough to save his life had he read it?
>>579273974I now remember the time that Scaji seethed against Westerners because some French dude said eating meat is dumb, which contradicted Westerners promoting meat eating in the 19th century.
>>579274165Sakura no Uta -To Dance Over the Cherry Blossoms- is one of those visual novels that is difficult to evaluate purely as a story. It is simultaneously a coming-of-age drama, an examination of artistic creation, a philosophical novel, a mystery, and—occasionally rather abruptly—a conventional eroge.Released by Makura in 2015 and written primarily by SCA-自, it has since acquired something close to legendary status among enthusiasts of Japanese visual novels. It won both the overall and scenario categories of the 2015 Bishoujo Game Awards, and its reputation has only grown.My overall verdict: an extraordinarily ambitious, frequently beautiful, occasionally frustrating masterpiece that is much more interesting than it is consistently well-written.The central strength: its obsession with artThe game is particularly fascinated by the relationship between genius and ordinary people. Its characters aren't merely trying to produce beautiful paintings; they're trying to understand what separates someone who can create something extraordinary from someone who cannot.And importantly, the game doesn't treat artistic creation as an isolated activity. Art becomes something inherited, imitated, challenged, destroyed, remembered and eventually surpassed.That gives the story a surprisingly strong generational quality. The relationship between Kusakabe Naoya and Kusakabe Kenichiro is arguably more important to the work than any individual romance.The writing is simultaneously brilliant and insufferableThis is probably the game's defining contradiction.The problem is that the game knows it is clever.Characters sometimes sound less like human beings having conversations and more like philosophy students taking turns delivering essays. Ideas that could have been communicated naturally are occasionally buried beneath quotations, metaphors and deliberately obscure dialogue.
>>579274156Had he read LiL he would've been like>thought-provoking on grooming minors
>>579274090>a woman having had a penis inside her vagina in the past is the same thing as her being a single mother
Personally I am waiting for sakura no oto before reading uta for the full experience
>>579274325Yeah sounds about right
>>579274263Better review than Conjueror.
>>579274263OK AIfriends I might actually have to kneel here that's a way better review than I thought AI was capable of.
>>579274132I think I will also have the same opinion since I didn't enjoy suba that much
>>579274351Uta+Toki is enough. Not expecting anything from the student routes, lol
>>579274325And its more of "risk of her being pregnant with someone elses child", simply biological reaction.
>Disciplinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKA9Zi5-_Y
>>579274271and he'd be right
>>579274204Despite the memes consooming can't change your attitude towards life. It can't cure your depression. It'll only make you want to consoom more media.
>>579274351You might as well go for it nowIm waiting for oto too. But the chances of it not even being made are high
>>579274415Most AI haters are stuck in 2016 or 2021 when it was completely dogshit. It's legit now and becomes much better with good prompting. Being a luddite at this point is lunacy.
>>579274529Can it get me my wife or hair back?
>>579273137She's a Rokuhara nurse, please be kind to her.
Im in murica boyos :OFor some reason im in rokuhara hills...
>>579274584Can I just say posting cute brown girls has done more to interest me in this VN than anything you've done so far. I hope she has good h-scenes.If you respond with "no" or "she has no h-scenes" the game is SHIT
>want to see the new white album 2 ASMR>the only source is behind baidu links FUCK CHINKS
>>579274501>It'll only make you want to consoom more media.That's enough to make you want to keep living.
>>579274472Human women aren't turtles, they can't store semen in their bodies for years before fertilizing their eggs.
>>579274661>see >ASMR
>>579274558Prompt your wifes personality into it
>>579274746At one point when you'll grow tired of that shit and off yourself. It's not sustainable.
>>579274661>they're not talking to haruki, they're talking to (you)hmmmm, this is like layered ntr
>>579274827There's simply no other way. There's nothing else to live for.
>>579274501Anything can change your life, it really says more about the life than the thing.If you're about to kill yourself but then oppai spy comes out and you want to live to masturbate to more big tits
>>579274887What if they ban oppai shit? Will you kill yourself?
>>579274842(You) are supposed to be the mc. Are you new?
>>579274952You can't ban oppai, bwo. That's impossible.
>>579274842I wasn't interested until you said this but now I'm super in. I'll definitely check these out.
Anyone try out the translations from this? https://vndb.org/p28757I saw they had Ai Shimai IV and a Cation game.
>>579274995>self-inserting as a shit protagonistgrim
>>579274995yeah but you spend 100+ hours being haruki, so by not being addressed as haruki, it's like you're listening to a cheating audio. hence "layered"
>>579274654Well...
>>579275024>MTLshit
ge with this feel?also, I feel I would be narcissistic enough for this to work on me
>>579274995Bro is voiced and has a personality no matter how matter how shitty that might be
>>579275024>MTLKino
>>579274952Who is "they" in this scenario? Who could possibly have the power to ban oppai?
>>579275006>sleevless outfit>not a single sprite or CG showing her Toumapitskusoge
>>579275112
>>579275112how would it not work on anyone, no one can understand and trust you more than you
>>579275124like Geralt from The Witchertriss true > yennefer true btw
>>579275047>Mindbroken and think 24/7 about ntrNo saving for you whatever i try to say.>>579275032Its not some extra step people go out of their way to do.
>>579275195If I was a girl I think I'd want a bigger cock than mine to be honest.
>>579275112I think that's kind of a dumb concept, since an opposite sex version of the MC would have had a significantly different life and thus developed differently. She'd be more similar to a sister than the MC himself.
>>579273965Hey I liked LGI. It's a good opportunity to self-insert into a female protagonist for once.
>>579275195I wouldn't date myself
>>579275219Ntr has ruined my brain true. I’d go to a therapist but they’ve probably never dealt with someone with this type of mental debuff
>>579275112Its hugue fucking spoiler but https://vndb.org/v1179
>>579275124Yeah so are harem anine protagonist or shit like mushoku, your point?Those factors does not prevent such immersion.
>>579275321>only good endingsIf I wanted to play snoreworks, I’d replay hoshi ori
I don't self insert. I see protagonists as my bros.
>>579275327>hates Mushoku Tenseiroom temp IQ I’m afraid
>>579275418We know you love to watch monosabacuck
>>579275418>plays VNs to root for his bros when they get laidBased!
>>579275446>still mindbroken by some random danpoopronpa ripofflel
>>579275112Read these https://vndb.org/g788?f=&m=0&s=24w
>>579275327>mushokuHe's a fat retarded pedo otaku media consoomerSo a self insert for a lot of losers like you
>>579275443When did i say i hate it you fucking retard, literally my favorite anime and LN.Kill yourself.
>>579275515Nobody here is as bad as Rudeus tho the type of shit he did in his previous life would have landed him in prison
I just generate AI porn with my favorite heroines. Since the male in those has no personality, it makes it easy to self-insert and I'm not being cucked.
>>579275545>isekai sloppa>favorite anime buhi
>>579275545You said “shit like Mushoku” you gaslighting homo
>>579275515Yeah and he has hecking personality, so much for your fragile non existing argument.
>>579275443I read a chunk of the manga and hated the MC. He was a cringy retard and I was not interested in seeing his adventures.
>>579275606Enough to put him in the... Hentai Prison?
>>579275112dumb unimaginative garbage, just read any all age trash
>MUMBAI Tensei
>>579275275I have a sister and we pretty have the same interests but different preferences if that makes sense. We both play VN’s for instance and play valorant.An example of our different tastes is that I’m a Kazusafag and she’s a Setsunafag,
>>579275696all-ages KAMIGE*
Do you people ever talk about actual visual novels here?
>>579275640The so called personality is tailor made for otaku self insertion.
>>579275745No because there hasn’t been a good VN since 2012 when the world ended
>>579275745what's your favorite visual novel? mine is lessons in love
>>579275387Whoever added that tag was king of a retard tho Yeah, they are happy on nature, but most endings are pretty bitterseweet. One heroine literally dies on every route but hers, in one mc never sees his family again, and thats without going into the fucked up implications of dimention travel
>>579275689Unironically yes but this time the story would be about getting beaten by other prisoners instead of philosophical debate about prison system and self expression
>>579275741all-ages DOGSHIT*
>>579275725I have a sister and we're very different.
>>579275689I want to be in the hentai prison but I'm too yasashii.
>>579275797Wrong.
>>579275769Whatever makes you sleep at night yuricuck
MT is so ass. Shit like that would've been rightfully hated in pre covid times.
>>579275701I bet he's a big Muramasa fan
>>579275803Good lord it’s a steins gate ripoff
>>579275725>>579275814why haven't you impregnated her?
>>579275152visa and mastercard
My talented and beautiful wife
>>579275927won't do shit
>>579275701Why do they all have that hairstyle?
>>579275912Cause she looks like our mom????
>>579275889Guess what
>>579275745I'm reading a visual novel, it's pretty good.
>>579275984I wish I had hair
>>579275807>the story would be good instead of midwit slopa
We all love Ai here
>>579276030@grok, translate this for me
>>579276060you are low iq
>>579276063I do love plotge with 40 year old loli main heroines.
>>579275807Like prison on fire?
Saionji Sekai is light.
>>579276105>as he types in lower case
>>579276097>>579276030Here you go, sir.
>>579276150>>579276030You seriously telling me this is a baba?
The kamige kombo
>AIwonned
>>579276305uhh.. jopbros?
>>579276379Fate is the only kamige in this image though.
>>579276387HFK
>>579275989That's an interesting comparison.
>>579276494It’s genuinely concerning how many dudes marry essentially what’s younger versions of their moms where I live
>>579276423How many more episodes until he gets self-cested by Oldeus?
>>579276363Main heroine baba, to boot.
>>579276305JOPs, is this right? I need a check, immediately.
>>579276558>Main heroineNo such thing
should i still learn japanese for VNs?
>>579276560It translates "sorry" as "well then", which is kinda odd.
>>579276560It doesn't really seem right to me, but I can't read hard kanji.
>>579276656If you are a NEET? Yes
>>579276558I still kind of hate how they lolified her on toki.At least her H-scenes were hot as fuck
>>579276656If you are a NEET? No
>>579276656only if you actually like visual novels
>>579276656Absolutely not
Will visual novels ever escape hard work vs talent?>>579276746Everyone's lolified in Toki. Kana is a completely different character in Toki and looks way younger.
>>579276305Deliberate falsefagKill yourself
>>579276656by the way you learn japanese, AI will translate better than Alexander smith
>>579276656No need, we are in the AI singularity.
Do you like heroines that speak in R'lyehian?
>>579276837I'd rather read the author's own words.
>>579276880Like these are not the same person.
I don't like visual novels. I just like some VNs. Overall I don't like the concept of heroine routes or the protagonist being surrounded by a harem of cute girls he has to choose from to get into their route or this medium's obsession with unfunny shimoneta or high school setting.BST is the only one I'm interested in for now.
>>579277016Is she eating her?
>>579276963Are you reading that MTL?
>>579276834Huh? What do you even mean by false flag sir? Are you saying it's not AI?
>>579277094I think he's saying that you deliberately made the AI do a bad job?
Genuinely fucking crazy she never got a route in either VN despite being more important to the plot than multiple heroines.
>>579277254Route in Oto, this time for sure!
>Entire VN is about art and artists>But apparently being Banksy is too far and crossing a line and unforgivably evil
>>579277367It's sca-ji's voice
>>579276963>quintessential midwit post
>>579276963Yeah, the high school boy surrounded by cute girls setup is overused and hampers the development of interesting stories.
>>579277475He wasn't praising Steins;Gate though.
>>579277086No, I'll read it in jp.
>>579277254Why are you spoiling people for free with a hyped release?
Plotge should have more bro routes than heroine routes.
>>579277367How many warikashis are there in this game?
>>579277603That's not a spoiler.
>>579277579Enjoy your kamige.
>>579277620Based FSN had the Archer route disguised as a Rin route.
>>579277525geg, true
Sometimes interacting with you fags makes me hate the medium.
>>579276679>>579277139I asked it about that and it said it was because I asked it to do image generation and told me to use this one instead. Here you go sirs.>The first version was made with image generation, which re-created the screenshot rather than reliably preserving every pixel of your original. When I noticed the translation itself was wrong, I switched to a deterministic edit of your actual screenshot: I covered the Japanese dialogue area and placed the corrected English on top
Nonomi, you've known her for 5 minutes and were just talking about how her Banksy stuff is performance and not real art.
>>579277657>saying a girl has no route in either VN is not a spoilerWeird way your brain works.
>>579277775What the fuck does "real art" mean?
>>579277719jopbros, is it time to be scared?
>>579277819>real artStuff I like.>fake artStuff I don't like.
>>579277819Do I have a visual novel franchise for you
>>579277776Yeah, it's not.
jopsisters, are we washed?
>>579277896Not convincing
>>579277915I washed myself in the tub earlier today, yes.
>>579277915I wash everyday. You can't JOP dirty.
>>579277959tub of cum*
>>579277915>>579277835Human translations will always have SOUL
>>579277959>unironically using tubwhat are you? 60? lol
thinking about redman
>>579278012What love? She's selling that shit in a capitalist market for profit
>>579277915What VN are you reading? Now that you can read any VN you like surely you could tell us about the games you enjoyed recently.
>>579278012AI translations don't call me an incel
>yandere who thinks that the MC is her dead husbandDo you like this heroine type?
My right arm...
>>579278059Thinking about his big succulent cock huh? You absolute homo. You want to play with his nipples with one hand and jerk him off with another while your ears feast on his moans???
>>579278094I'm going to release a bunch of AI translations and insert the incel word near the end of the game so you can't even drop it by the time you reach it.
>>579278148No one will read them so dropping them won't be necessary.
I mean I get the idea but I'm not sure it's possible to train your eyes to have different rods and cones just by working hard but I guess I'll roll with it. There's already magic in the setting, this isn't a big dealExplains why Nei was painting with one eye closed though.
>>579278094>AI translations don't call me what I am
>>579278143>post made by tennouji kotarou
>>579278094
>>579278143
>>579278193Maybe they're talking about one of those eye contact lenses that filter light in a certain way...
Can you incels spare me a moment and tell me a VN that is like Inception?
>>579278094You? What you? You are not a protagonist, you are not japanese high school boy, you are not yasashii and you do not have a voice(voiced mc). all you do is WATCH japanese boy fuck your girls.T. >>579275124 (me)
>>579278384Don't falseflag as me but yeah but I would say that shit to his face
>>579278384I'm the protagonist.
>>579278454T. Dull
>>579278347Closest is gonna be AI somnium files. Second closest is Euphoria
VNs where you do casual homo stuff with your best friend(male)? No real homo. Just casual shit like deeply caring about each other to the point of neglecting heroines or kissing on lips and being all touchy feely. No butt sex.
Is this the class /vn/ posters belong to?
>>579278640Jopping: the VN
>>579278640>No butt sex.I had a suggestion but it doesn't fulfill that requirement.
>>579276656Yeah, no matter how good a translation might be, it will never be the same as reading the original language. This holds true for any language. A minor issue is that a translation might be perfectly understandable yet overlook the fact that word placement within a sequence is part of the literary effect, ultimately a translation is always just a reading of the work, not the work itself. Sometimes translation simply isn't enough because the way something is expressed in the original language is what matters and other languages have limitations that prevent the reader from grasping that intent. Nowadays there are more tools than ever, so it’s a great time to start learning.
>>579278701>muh literary effectlmao, the absolute state of JOPs
>>579278640Little Busters is actually the closest thing I can think of.
>>579278658The Kageaki favorite...
>>579278701So do you learn French for reading French literature?
>>579278658"The Holy Grail War has existed for thousands of years, and yet, mysteriously, every Master reports in writing that they summoned Minato Kageaki. To this day, no other Servant has ever been summoned to the Watcher Class other than the hero Minato Kageaki."hfk
For a serious plotge for serious plotge readers, they sure are spending a lot of time making flyers to hand out to promote their club and talking about food.
>>579278827>French literatureexamples
>>579278057Well it does take 50+ years for non natives to finally become proficient in Japanese so...
>jop screenshot>>>/jp/untranslated
>>579278780Anon, you should be grateful that anonymity allows you to participate in discussions where you evidently lack the competence to contribute anything.
>>579278923Notre-Dame de Paris
>>579278923You're know the usual classics most people have touched at least once Balzac, Flaubert, Proust, Hugo, Camus , Dumas, Bataille etc
>>579279051quof you're an indiansee>>579266047
Before learning Japanese to read Subahibi in its original language, don't forget the required reading.You MUST learn German and read Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, learn French and read Cyrano de Bergerac, learn Italian and read Novelle fatte a macchina, AND learn Latin and read De Docta Ignorantia in their original languages. Without doing this bare minimum, you AT MOST will appreciate 10% of Subahibi.
>>579279015
>>579279229Kek
>>579272252I think the one flaw in his analysis so far is not having spent more focus on potential differences between narration and dialogue. Or maybe I missed him going into it. But that could be somewhat different in terms of translation quality. And the opening lines are often pure narration, so might not reflect dialogue appropriately.
>>579279229But I want to read Sakuuta, the JOPs said it's better.
SMT III: Nocturne of visual novels???
>>579279195>>579279229
>>579279229this is what jops sound like to normal people btw
>>579274667
>>579279209Damn, now I'm "quof"... but then again I'm glad the internet allows for the democratization of discussion and that even people like you can have access to these exchanges.
>>579278701Too bad this is the VISUAL novel general that's backed by audio. Your literary cuckery barely matters in this medium
>>579279195I don't even read American lit. Only Japanese shit is worth it because they're the only ones with soul. No one cares about other shit.
>>579279319I'm a JOP and I'm normal.
>>579277915Did you guys seriously learn the language to boast here? Go offline for a bit bro
>>579279360quofgeakijeet
gm sars
I'm, drunk as fuck, ask me anything
>>579279364>t. never read ASOIAF or shakespeare
>>579279229>GermanNot any German but early 20th century Austrian German
>>579279305this is what quof and moeanon looks like to me
why do some people in this thread feel so insecure about discussing anything
I only read chuunige.
>>579279489zoomers hate discussion and only come here for shitposting and try to derail any discussion to get back to shitposting
>>579279489Most people here don't even read VNs they just open the thread to shitpost like it's their personal discord
>>579279489hooktrannies do be like that
>>579279441>ASOIAFJust read the dragonbone chair.
>>579279489you could try >>>/jp/untranslated
>>579279319This. Then the VN they're defending is some random moenukige
Sometimes I think I'd really like to start a cord with the anons who genuinely want to talk about visual novels... I think it would be really cool
lol he added praise quotes at the bottomhttps://mao-tls.github.io
>>579279229How many years of studying will this take me? Is understanding Subahibi really a lifelong ordeal?
>>579279739GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
>>579279716Dude it'll just be anons talking about their life shit in #general while other discussion channels would move at 1 post per hour speed
>>579279716ywnbaw
>>579279739>“Far superior to the existing Todokanai TL… the definitive way to read WHITE ALBUM 2 if you are unable to read the original Japanese.”>gambs, r/visualnovels head moderator, JLPT N1 + Kanken 2, on MAO Translations’ English translation of WHITE ALBUM 2
>>579279739Gambs is a top tier ragebaiter
>>579279739>the praise is from our guysbased
>>579279817I don't know I'm pretty sure a lot of people here would really like to share their thoughts on what they're reading especially if they're enjoying it but unfortunately they don't really have a place to do that
>>579279739This is like quoting the Socrates and Plato of our generation.
>>579279739and bst chapter names still aren't translated...
>>579279915Where's Moogy???
>>579279915niggas mama named they son carter lmao
>>579279716The discussion will last for maybe a week, and then it will degenerate into incelbait, polfaggotry, and eventually transitioning while building a support group on the main channel
>>579279936I think you fundamentally misunderstand why people come here
>>579279936The problem with discussing VNs is the same as discussing any anime, manga, etc. that isn't currently airing. Most people here aren't reading the same shit you are, and if they did, they already finished it. VNs don't get consistent enough releases for the "group" to be discussing a shared topic. That's why these generals suck, it's gonna be one guy blogposting at best while everyone else already read it years ago.
>>579279739Based
>>579280010Has moogy even said anything about these TLs?
It would be fun if we agreed to read something at the same time
I used to get pretty invested in translation issues and probably would have had a lot to say about this current "controversy", but after realizing the best VN of all time is actually an EVN, I just don't care anymore. It feels quite liberating, honestly.
>>579280091real VN fans are all reading LiL monthly now however
>>579279915>even the best JOP is only at mid-high C1 masteryAnd these retards pretend to understand Japanese
>>579280265Probably on his privatecords
>>579280269>the best VN of all time is actually an EVN
>>579279936The problem is that if you're reading something I haven't read yet, I'll ignore you. If you've finished reading something I've read but it's not one of my favorites, I'll only engage with you sometimes. VN discussions and books as a whole aren't something meant to be discussed like FOTM games/movies/animes/gacha, they're a solitary hobby.
Any JOPs here who are Italian American? I wanna know if I can call someone here a WOPJOP
>>579279739I can't be bothered to reread WA2 in this patch
>>579280342I think that would only be a problem if both people have read very few vns, when you've read a lot of them, there are bound to be several overlaps.
>>579280317Lessons in Love, yes.
>Episodic VN with monthly releases
>>579280471Not a chuunige.
>mumbaimasa alliance lost their best warrior to LiL
We're shilling the sad, emotionally complicated groomer again?
>>579273754didn't he transl8 mura-massa?
https://vndb.org/v24672hidden kamige>>579280268BST in september
>>579280474Black & White was kino.
>>579280268We used to always do this before the JOPs arrived.
>>579280269>>579280471
Steins Gate Reboot just released, why aren't we all reading it and discussing?
But Lessons in Love isn't even best EVN.
>>579280793most people here are poor/thirworlders, they can't afford it
>>579280781It was done again on /jp/ a while back, but unfortunately it didn't last for many threads
>>579273120>>579273754>>579273227I don't know man. Sounds like you're frustrated that they made a name for themselves in the community while you're still in the shadows.
>>579280793I do not like the live 2d aspect and asami imai's lines are inferior compared to the original. Not to mention the art is also inferior.
>>579273754He does have translation credits thoughhttps://vndb.org/s27460
>>579280802you haven't read it
>>579280802TRVKE
>>579280908Sub route in Subahibi?
>>579280470It's a problem because most people are not going to remember a lot of something they read years ago unless they had strong feelings about it. Details will fade and they won't be as inclined to discuss it. This is much different from a weekly manga where everyone will be discussing the latest chapter they just read.
>>579280802Because that's Dissonance, of course.
>>579279739I like that he still hasn't fixed the CC image kek
Boooring. Where's Manomura?
>>579280474On the bright side I'm getting kamige delivered on a(n almost) monthly basis, which I can't say I mind.>>579280512The only chuunige I ever had in my top 10 was Muramasa and that wasn't my favorite VN to begin with. I don't really think a chuunige can reach that sort of level because a lot of the genre is based on playing around with strange, abstract ideas for the sake of "coolness", which isn't a bad thing per se, but it causes them to have a superficial quality regardless of the depth in which said ideas get explored. I think people make a mistake by treating the stuff about killing/war/etc. in Muramasa too seriously.>>579280802Picrel.
>>579281065Wtf is Manomura?
>>579280908Kirby is always ranting about how he translated 77 lines and then stopped helping.
>>579281009Honestly, I’ve taken part in discussions about things I read years ago and recall details as I go, but it’s true that the less interested I was, the harder it is to participate actively in the discussion.
>>579280839Most people here aren't brainless goyim consoomers paying more for less when the original is perfect.
Why is this nigga shirtless
>>579281009Yeah, like, if you start reading a Yuzusoft VN that I read three or four years ago, I probably won't have much motivation to talk about it, except for a few times, since I've already moved on.You can't go to a niche medium where you're required to read long works and expect huge book club discussions about VNs that aren't the most popular.
