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Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.
/ffg/ spam filter: https://clipb.in/mu46EOG

>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

>What version should I play?
https://pastebin.com/70d511Ka

>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E

>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
https://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c

>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailer
https://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is

>Final Fantasy VII Revelation
https://youtu.be/rpugeKC14bw
https://youtu.be/N99VdWs-OfE

>Final Fantasy Resonance
https://youtu.be/42mOKP0eIBU
https://youtu.be/BJl6QvjFpsA

>Dissidia Duellum Final Fantasy
https://youtu.be/dgTNtB9myss
https://youtu.be/L-UITSfBZpc
>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
>>>/vmg/2120114 #
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8

>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Previous thread: >>579790975
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Resonance is the true XVI.
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Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
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FFXVI = Low Quality
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>that moment the main theme started playing
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>>580187198
If only the fatherless loser could heed this post...
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>>580187117
Final Fantasy is back.
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>>580166396
It really does make a lot of sense, but it's also astonishing to find out exactly how stupid the schizo shitposters are on /ffg/. (extremely stupid)
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>actual proof the haters were wrong and revelation is selling 8 times as many copies as GTA 6 despite their bitching
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>>580186119
This boss is a cakewalk if you know what you're doing.
>Rain for Protega, Physical Counter and Multi Cover (WoL)
>Fina for Cura (Leah)
>Lasswell for Debrave (Cloud) and DPS
The real pain in the ass is that fucking level 20 Antlion
>>580187283
For me it was when the FF1 theme started playing in WoL's shrine. That shit fucked me up.
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Cloud reaching for his true love, Aerith
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One true love and kissu hug! Canon and cute couple!
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>>580187854
>8 times as many
Look, anon, I'm happy that everything in your life revolves around your bogeymen and what they think of the [Good News], but that is not how the math works out. Just because GTA VI is #8 and Revelation is both 4th and 1st does not mean that it is selling 8x as many copies.

Did any of you even go to school, or did you drop out to pursue Jimbo full time?
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>>580187854
Revelation will be the best Final Fantasy game
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>>580188116
>Amazon best sellers
>our most popular products
>based on sales
>updated frequently
Go check it yourself. Revelation is crushing GTA.
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>>580188279
You can't intuit basic math principles, and you can't read either. Incredible.
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Resonance demo was pretty damn good desu
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>>580188279
GTA is incentivizing digital sales as much as humanly possible.
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Dead game, but thanks for the memories
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>>580188371
>show hater proof of revelation being a success
>they refuse to accept reality
Grim.
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Aerisu!
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We agree Revelation will be the best selling game in the series right?
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>>580188732
You aren't reading my posts or even attempting to understand what I said.

You are making VIIRgins look very, very bad, just so you know. It does not do you or your "team" any favors to act retarded on purpose like this. Or maybe you're just literally retarded and you can't help it, either way it does not make "your people" look good to be doing this.
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And it's done. It's pretty unfortunate that this is ultimately a repurposed gacha game with gacha writing, there's a lot of very fun systems that I think deserve a much better framework than this. The party in particular is insanely dull even by "simple FF adventure" standards (even with Lasswell getting a few standout moments for himself), the next characters really need to bring up more interesting dynamics.
Writing did pick up around Kobolos so I hope this indicates an upward trend for the full game.
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Pull for her.
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>>580188023
Don't forget about the dark horse!
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>>580188893
>We agree Revelation will be the best selling game in the series right?
In the Remake SERIES? Honestly, probably not. Remake has sold like 8m or something, maybe more, and we still have not even an inkling of how much Rebirth sold. I do sincerely believe that Rebirth sold drastically fewer copies than Remake. I think that Remake will remain the best selling game in the Final Fantasy VII Remake trilogy. And personally, I liked Remake more than Rebirth, so my opinion might even end up being that Remake is both the best selling and the best game in the VII Remake series.

I'm not even sure if Revelation will manage to outsell Rebirth, which is really saying something because Square Enix is so ashamed of Rebirth's lackluster sales that they wont even tell us what they are.
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>>580189123
Don't worry. Egdar is carefully counting down the days until she turns 18.
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>>580188023
Revelation can't come soon enough.
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>>580188748
>wearing a combination wedding dress and white mage robe complete with thigh slits
Nice
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>>580189449
>cetra officiating cloti wedding giving her blessing
Nice
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>>580189325
Can't wait to see Tifa get friendzoned for the 3rd time in a row!
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>>580163345
>XVI proved that no one will buy a new AAA final fantasy game unless its called FFVII.
XVI sold more copies than Rebirth, so actually what XVI proved is that people are so tired of VII or that the VIIR devs messed up with VIIR so badly that even the most divisive mainline Final Fantasy title of all time is capable of selling more copies than the latest entry in the beloved Final Fantasy VII expanded universe.
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>>580189775
Oh, you're coping hard. Aerith lost. Get over it.
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>>580190256
Of course Aerith lost, she already lost before she died.
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>>580189196
>we still have not even an inkling of how much Rebirth sold
5M. Devs said it did great
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>>580189757
>Tifa dressed like a casino owners mistress complete with a boob window and side slit with her bare legs shown
That is anything but wife material, anon
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>>580190524
>Devs said
And of course devs would never lie.
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>>580190583
I trust them
When have they ever lied and why would they?
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>>580190583
This. See: Yoshi-P.
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>>580190980
>immediate deflection
That doesn't bode well for the XIIIfags...
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>>580190524
>5M. Devs said it did great
Pic related. If it was actually doing great, Square Enix would have just told us what the sales are instead of having all the devs going around telling every single news outlet who will listen about how great Rebirth is selling.

In the lead up to Revelation, they will probably do a sales announcement for the entire trilogy, like how they did before Rebirth. I'm personally expecting a number between 10-12m. A number lower than 10-12m would be so catastrophic that they would probably refrain from stating any number, so a lack of sales figure associated with the Remake trilogy is most likely indicative of a total number below 10m. On the high end, I would say 15m would be insanely good. That would mean that Rebirth probably did sell around 5m copies, which I personally think is borderline impossible.
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>>580190256
>>Oh, you're coping hard
>shows fanart
Afraid if you showed the optional kiss scene you were gonna get roasted for that, too? Go on, you can post it. I'll even pretend the devs didn't go out of their way to bury it in every piece of media referencing the gold saucer date in favor of Aerith. Some loser she is, huh?
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>>580191063
I hate XIII, thoughbeight.
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>>580191063
Irrefutable.
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>>580190524
Sales status?
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Remember Clotards, when arguing your ships legitimacy make sure to highlight canon scenes that every person that played the games can actually see! Optional scenes don't count!
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Uhm, Aerithsisters?
What the FUCK is this?
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And THIS?
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>>580191461
Um, Tifasisters?
What the FUCK is this?
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>>580191661
And THIS?
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Which way white man?
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>>580191095
>more coping
The optional scene that completely mogs your crackship's optional scene that no one cares about. The optional scene that everyone got and that's all over the marketing. I genuinely feel bad for you. You're not going to survive Revelation at this point.
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Playing through FFT for the first time vianthe ivalice chronicles

How do I resist the urge to just grind random encounters making the game trivial?
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>>580191406
Currently outselling GTA VI
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>>580191964
My religion dictates that I must choose the right hand path.
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Exivus veterans, did they steadily give out more visions as the game went on? I know they revealed Sephiroth, and there's a blank space in the list in-game, so I guess we can expect some DLC?

Pic semi-related, it's the only FF pic I have on my new pc and it was from the street fighter thread
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>>580191406
Cute and canon!
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>>580192340
>so I guess we can expect some DLC?
It's 2026. It's a given that if a game does well enough it will receive DLC. The only real question regarding Resonance is whether the rest of the Brave Exvius story will be DLC or whether it will be a separate new game entirely (sequel(s)).
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>>580192017
>>The optional scene that completely mogs your crackship's optional scene that no one cares about. The optional scene that everyone got and that's all over the marketing.
Aww look at you thinking you did something by taking a screenshot of a livestream to try and prove a point. Tifa's gold saucer seen was poorly lit, ugly and never referenced unless to promote wider features the devs want players to engage with. Aerith is all over the marketing, even the promo art for Revelation where she is 3 times the size of your whore monk who is of the same amount of importance as cait sith.
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>>580192526
>It's a given that if a game does well enough
What do you mean by "do well"? Reviews wise, sales wise?
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>>580191964
I choose a third path:
>Fastest Selling!
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>>580193032
Sales wise, of course. The fuck? Is that a real question?
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>>580191964
Do sales really matter that much? More than the quality of the game?
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>>580193130
You better watch your mouth around here
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Cute and canon!
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>>580193160
>Do sales really matter that much?
Sometimes, not at all. Other times, it's all that matters. Lurk long enough and you start to get a feel for it. Soon you will "see" like we do.
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>>580193160
Only game "discussion" has progressed to the point where opinions are dangerous or even shameful to have. You see it play out on /ffg/ every single day. Any time someone has an opinion, someone swoops in to tell them that their opinion is wrong, but the person swooping in to correct the opinion never provides their own opinion. A few days ago, someone had a meltdown because they were asked what their opinion was.

The only conversations permitted are conversations about sales, because sales are concrete and based in reality and are not a subjective opinion like "quality" or "enjoyment". However, we're deep into the "sales" metagame now on 4chan, and people are starting to take extreme liberties with the sales conversation. For example, Rebirth has never had its sales provided by Square Enix. Obviously this is most likely indicative of poor sales, and Square Enix has previously been forced to state in an earnings report that Rebirth had disappointing sales, but the sales metagame is such that the most devout worshipers take this as meaning that the sales are literally too spectacular to state for fear that Square Enix might accidentally shit on their other games by providing Rebirth's massive sales, and so you get people saying Rebirth has sold 5, 6, 7, 8m copies, and it's truly impossible to say whether or not this person is being sincere or is falseflag shitposting. That's where the conversation is at now.
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what's the best tifa figure out there
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>>580193714
I think it's fair to say Revelation is selling well if it's managing to outdo gta 6
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>>580194138
Thats... you know what, you didn't read my other post about how GTA VI being #8 and Revelation being #1 and #4 doesn't mean that Revelation is selling 8x more than GTA VI, so I'm just going to refrain from attempting to explain the rest of your statement to you, because it's useless to do so. You are operating from a religious point of view, not a logical point of view.

But yes, I would say if Revelation manages to outsell GTA VI, then it will have sold well.
(unless all of the hype surrounding GTA VI is completely fabricated, I don't care enough about it to know one way or the other if it's real or fake)
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>>580193020
Where's your crackship's optional date here? I could keep going, too, since they've been using the best Gold Saucer date in the marketing a lot lately. Can't blame them, it's the most iconic scene in Rebirth, completely mogging all of prosti-chan's scenes, including her death scene.
>Aerith is all over the marketing
She really isn't. That's why her fanatics have been crying so much lately.
>the promo art for Revelation
The same size as her true love, Zack, the guy you hate so much lol
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It makes narrative and promotional sense to end the series with Aerith alive and as the canon love interest. For the past 29 years, her death has been the biggest point of reference when highlighting the narrative power of storytelling that went into the title, and her character, theme and imagery continue to endure even as the series has aged. Since the time of FF7s first release, players have begged for a way to save her and have carried that wish in their hearts, even as supplementary material has raped the franchise with convoluted plotlines and bizarre characters (Genesis, Glenn, Cissnei). For Revelation to drop the same year as the franchise is celebrating it's 30th anniversary marks a milestone moment where they can tell the definitive tale of FF7 and leave no unresolved thoughts or feelings left in players. They can also properly sell an "Aerith survives and has a happy ending" narrative to both players to encourage further hype in the franchise and to shareholders eager to see how Square can breathe new life into Final Fantasy as a whole. It just makes sense.
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Narratively, she needs to stay dead
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>VIIRgins now believe that Revelation will outsell GTA VI
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>>580194984
>AI overview
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>>580194858
Your fanfic isn't real, sis. It's over. You lost. FLOPrith lost.
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You know what, I just realized that we are experiencing Barry math again.

Is Barry here and he is posting as a Revelation hopeful/defender?
Or is a complete lack of normal functioning logical and cognitive faculties just a side effect of the B-virus?
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>>580194984
>Amazon best sellers
>our most popular products
>based on sales
>updated frequently
By all means go check the amazon ps5 best seller list yourself.
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>>580194691
>W-where is your date in this promotional reel here then since you know so much!!
It's cute that you want my attention so badly, Clotard, but nothing you say will change that Square is marketing Aerith with more importance than Tifa would ever get. No Clerith fans are crying because we see the vision the devs have for the story. You guys acted just as cocky in Rebirth and what do you have to show for that? An optional kiss scene that isn't referenced outside of itself and canon scenes of Cloud fighting with Tifa, shoving Tifa, and almost killing Tifa. Wow, that sure is laying the groundwork for a steamy romantic conclusion come Revelation's release!
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Seph didn't control the weapons in OG right? They were just reacting to his nonsense?
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>>580195808
I believe they are just defending the planet, almost like the planet's white blood cells.
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>>580195596
Who are you quoting?
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>>580195924
gotcha, thanks
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>>580195132
Chant it like a mantra, anon. It's sure to become true if you say it enough times
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>>580195132
Irrefutable, the aerishitter immediately lost control of her composure.
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>>580196140
Remake is a sequel!
Tifa will die!
Aerith is alive!
Cloud is a time-traveler!
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>>580196140
Sephiroth will turn good!
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will the multiverse shit finally be explained in revelation?
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>>580195973
I accept your concession, retard. Hope you enjoy Revelation as much as I will
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>>580195973
The question that set off the cult.
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>>580196526
Maybe, maybe not. The advantage is that Square has already confirmed FF7's story will keep going after Revelation, so there will be plenty of opportunities to expend the multiverse lore.
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>>580196741
I dont want it expanded beyond part 3
I want it closed
I want it complete
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>>580194858
>For the past 29 years, her death has been the biggest point of reference when highlighting the narrative power of storytelling that went into the title, and her character, theme and imagery continue to endure even as the series has aged.
Holy fuck, VII-onlies are high off their own farts. What the fuck am I reading?

A fucking PIG has a more emotional, memorable, and impactful death than Aerith.

This is not a shitpost about Aerith specifically but rather how shallow and meaningless the narrative of VII is. Everything in VIIR is just as shallow and meaningless. It's all diversion and distraction, smoke and mirrors. Nothing is going to be any different, because nothing so far has been any different. Aerith needs to be dead in order for Advent Children to still exist. She'll just be around as a force ghost or as a schizo delusion or something. It's REALLY, really, reaaaallly *really* not that deep, I promise you. Your error is that you believe anything about this is deep or has even the slightest amount of thought put behind it. When asked what Nomura was going for with Sephiroth in Remake, he literally just said that he wants Sephiroth to look cool. That's it. It is NOT that deep, don't try to read into it. The people making the game aren't putting any effort into it, and neither should you. The people making the fucking game couldn't even bother replaying the original real quick before going into the writer's room to start the game.
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>>580196854
That's cool and all, but fans actually do want more FF7 content rather than pointlessly bitch.
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Smash Tifa reveal Wednesday
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>>580196946
>reddit spacing
Next time, steal posts from a better place.
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>>580196526
No, because it doesn't mean anything to begin with. There is nothing to explain. If they bother explaining it at all, they will say something like "it's a reflection" or "it's ripples/waves in the lifestream" or something equally just as hand wavey and they will never address it again or ever go into more detail than that, because it literally does not and never did have any meaning at all whatsoever.
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>>580187117
Should be renamed to /ff7rg/ at this point
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>>580197091
I've been here significantly longer than you, and I don't use Reddit.
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>>580197091
fucking wild that proper paragraphical spacing used for legibility is reddit and therefore should be looked down upon
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>>580196971
Anyone who claimed SE would continue to milk FFVII after part 3 releases has been proven right.
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>>580197347
It's just a Schrödinger's shitpost used exclusively by brown retards as an excuse to justify their illiteracy. Either the post is properly formatted for legibility, and is therefore Reddit, or it is a single text block full of complete and coherent sentences which do not require linebreaks and is therefore ChatGPT.
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>>580197408
>throughout the entirety of the Final Fantasy VII Remake news and release cycle, it has been uniquely the doomer shitposters who didn't even play the game that were right about everything
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>>580197091
Damn you struck a massive nerve, he got very angry that his lazy pasta got spotted.
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>>580197724
Luckily, I am extremely good at admitting when I was wrong and when others were right.
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>>580197117
then why fucking show the different worlds
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>>580198126
To make you talk about it. And see? It works like a charm.
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>>580198217
>i was just le trolling xDDDD
Low IQ, no-dad answer.
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>>580198126
They wanted people to talk about Remake the way people talked about the Eva Rebuilds, except they either completely pussied out or have a fundamental misunderstanding of what made people speculate about the Eva Rebuilds as they were releasing. They either had an idea, and they deviated from it, or they are retarded and never understood at all. Maybe a small combination of both.
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>>580198430
>Eva Rebuilds
The what now?
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>>580198356
>i was just le trolling xDDDD
First off, that's not what he said. Second off, yes, Nomura is literally a troll.

>>580198626
You're too brown and illiterate to even try to bother explaining. Just imagine if VII Remake was actually different and actually good so fans actually cared about what was going to happen since it was so crazy that they genuinely had no idea what was going to happen. Instead of just "oh, it's exactly the same anyway, who cares, why did they even kill Barret for 5 seconds if it's all meaningless?"
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>>580195596
The original conversation was about the gondola date. That's not your crackship's optional date in the current marketing. You're moving the goalposts.
>we see the vision
Sure nice vision you retards have >>580196386
Cloud will kiss Aerith during the gondola!
LMAO
Sephiroth knowing that Tifa is the key and manipulating schizo Cloud to drive him away from his true love Tifa is pure kino. Peak angst that makes the payoff even more exquisite. I know you don't understand basic storytelling like that. All your trashy theories are getting destroyed one by one.
>Aerith representing Rebirth
Good for you? No wonder Rebirth flopped. No one cares about your flop waifu.
If you need edited images to make yourself feel better, go ahead and cope. It won't make your funeral crackship real, unfortunately.
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Get fucked you stupid fucking Antlion, that took ages on Expert
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>>580197169
This is the FFXVI General. Everyone loves to talk about FFXVI.
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>>580200149
Personally, I liked Rebirth, but I liked the 10/10 FFXVI even more.
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>>580189093
130ish rolls, she came on the second outfit ticket but I kept going for dupes and eggs
and now I wanna fertilize her eggs
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>>580198950
Calm down, fatherless, you're only embarassing yourself. Take a chill pill and go touch grass.
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>>580200782
I'm not your bogeyman, but you do have my condolences for you being brown. Everyone can tell, btw.
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>>580200629
Why is she so tiny?
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>>580200782
You struck a massive nerve, the fatherless fatherlessed even more.
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>>580201145
you know why
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>>580201431
Do you ever get sad at the end of the day, knowing how many months go by, doing this? And for what? You know you only live once you know, you don't get this time back.
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>>580201431
As usual, really. It's just so sad and angry all the time, usually after being laughed at in /v/.
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>>580202228
I wonder what /v/ think of that shitposter. Whenever they laugh at him and ridicule him for being stupid, he comes back here to cry his soul out like a 7-years old orphan with no dad being the last to be picked up at kindergarten by his tramp mother.
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WE ARE SO BACK TURN BASED GODS
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>>580187192
>Resonance is the true XIII.
FTFY
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>>580205018
your mom is the true XVI.
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My wife Eiko is incredibly cute!
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>>580205162
Street fighter is the true FF7 remake
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>>580205456
The bestest
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XIII needs a remake
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>FF3 and FF4 get 3D remakes
>FF5 gets spiritual sequels in 4 Heroes of Light and Bravely Default
>FF6 gets nothing
It's not fair!
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I really do wonder what they mean when they said the FFVII Remake is going to continue forever. In what capacity? Endless DLC? Endless additional games? A bunch of low budget miscellaneous titles with a Final Fantasy VII IP paintjob to make sure that they sell? And who is making them? CBU1 is chained to FFVII forever now? Team Asano only makes Octopath games set in the FFVII universe now? It's the eternal project that they use the Luminous engine people for?

What is going on here exactly?
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>>580206604
They'll release a poster/calendar or a plushie as merch periodically
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>>580206517
>>FF6 gets nothing
Octopath is the FF6 spiritual successor.
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>>580198626
To actually answer your question, the EVA rebuilds are a series of 4 movies that retell the story of the original series, at least for the first two movies. The ending of the second film onward deviate greatly from the source material.
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>>580208321
Weird. I thought I was an Evangelion fan but I never heard of these. Were they poorly received? Or very spaced out? Or did they come out at the same time Gurren Lagann or another big anime came out and got overshadowed?
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>>580200629
Pixelated low rez trash
How shit is your phone thirdworld-kun?
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>>580208473
To add to what the other anon said, it's very obviously a sequel even though it's a remake. That's probably where they got the idea for VII Remake in the first place.

While they were ongoing, they were very well received on /a/ and had true speculation and evidence threads, unlike what /v/ has with VIIR, where it's just people arguing about Tifa and Aerith or Jimbo or some Reddit infograph. They came out in a similar cadence to the VII Remake, except the last movie which took forever to come out and is the least exciting of the movies by a mile. I don't really go to /a/ anymore, but people on /v/ at least (inside of VIIR discussion threads) love to shit on the Eva Rebuilds even though they are objectively better at being a remake sequel than VIIR is.
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>>580187854
>thinks 7R slop will get anywhere close to GTA sales let alone surpass
We're reaching levels of VIIRgin delusion never thought possible....
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>>580209018
Oh wait, I remember now. That's the remake with the super cool... Remiel, I think. Bro from being a polygon to a fractal. And that super weird brown-haired girl who felt edited in.
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>>580209018
>well received on/a/
You're right. 7Remake is anime slop.
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>>580209332
lol
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>>580209332
I didn't say that. I said that the Evangelion Rebuilds do a much better job at being a remake sequel than the VII Remake. Any VIIRgin who is blindly slurping and defending every single aspect of the VII Remake series needs to do themselves a favor and watch Evangelion, End of Evangelion, and then the Rebuild movies so that they can see how good VII Remake could have been, but isn't.
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>>580209147
>And that super weird brown-haired girl
Oh yeah, and she has the same voice actress as Aerith.

Aerith's voice actress is really so good. She voices every different age of Shinobu/Kiss Shot too. However, because she has her own music career, she refused to sing any opening character songs for Shinobu, unlike the other voice actresses for the Bakemonogatari girls.
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>>580210491
Mari, right. Bitch was fucking weird, you could've cut all her scenes from the movie and it'd have changed nothing.
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>>580210565
>you could've cut all her scenes from the movie and it'd have changed nothing
That's... completely wrong, but okay. You didn't even remember that the Rebulids existed a second ago, remember?
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>>580210763
I think I only watched the first two? Last thing I remember is... Gendo Ikari and what's-this-face in a space satellite going around the moon.
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>>580209332
Many have been saying this
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>>580210956
Watch them or don't, it doesn't even matter. Any VIIR player who hasn't seen them really should do themselves a favor and watch them so that they can find out what they're missing with VIIR. I'm just still disappointed that I thought VII Remake was going to be Evangelion Rebuild, for FFVII, and it turned out to be some convoluted, unnecessary, meaningless Nomura fakedeep bullshit instead.
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>>580211256
I mean, I remember people bitching that "Asuka wasn't Asuka anymore". That's why I remember that as some weird fanfiction instead of being a real sequel/retelling.
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>>580211683
You don't remember anything, anon. We already established this.
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Royal beauty
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>>580211683
She’s a vastly different character from the second movie onward, yes. There’s a time skip between 2 and 3 that facilitates the different characterization but it can still be a bit jarring
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>>580200629
Is she naked underneath her coat?
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>>580213514
One of these days, I'll have to watch the whole things since all the movies are out.

>>580213819
If only.
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Does Terra use her full trance transformation in Resonance/Exvius
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>>580208815
I only lowered it as to not rape my battery, it's mediocre trash, but not turd-worlder quality
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>7R derangement syndrome has spread to YouTube
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chud tourist here, is /ffg/ the chud version of /xivg/?
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>>580217968
It's complicated.
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>>580217968
/xivg/ is the tranny snapchat of Final Fantasy where people still mostly have fun despite it

/ffg/ is the literal schizophrenic uncle who doesn't get invited to any family get togethers anymore because he's weird and talks to himself about things that don't make any sense, and the only reason he holds any of the opinions that he has is specifically to spite one of the other family members in a very strange, sadistic, and obsessive one-sided war that only he knows they are having
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Will Resonance have the trance system?
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What if Revelation ends up selling better than Rebirth and XVI?
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>>580211683
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>>580215357
Is that the famous Jimbo?
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>>580219872
Now show an obsessed Tifag's wall or whatever the fuck you call it on Twitter.

>>580220024
It better. If Rebirth sold so poorly that Square Enix still has never released sales numbers, and Revelation can't beat that despite being the first simultaneous multi-plat release in the trilogy... that's going to be bad news bears for the Final Fantasy VII IP.
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>>580220061
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why does there need to be an "FF7 IP" to begin with
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>>580220252
Asuka isn't tsundere, thoughbeight
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>>580220180
"Jimbo" is anyone who is not being positive about 7R and "Jimbo" is also anyone who *is* being positive about 7R, so the answer to your question is "yes"
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>>580220287
because your IP being just 'moogles, chocobo, and summons' isn't a good strategy; characters sell IPs, not vistas or tertiary npcs
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>>580220287
FFVII is the only entry that has transcended vidya and has become a religion for a decently sized subsect of terminally online schizos who are literally always going to buy anything called "Final Fantasy VII" no matter what, and who are more than happy to have the same arguments with each other for decades upon decades upon decades.

It would be stupid business move not to cater a product to them. It's free real estate.
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>>580220736
>FF7 has become a religion
kind of explains a lot in hindsight
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>>580200629
When are they adding Eiko or Realm?
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>>580220867
relm would be nice but I doubt we're getting a third ff6 rep for a long while (also because we could just EOS before we get her)
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>>580220830
Yoko Taro is/was the only person at Square Enix that I still trust to have good ideas and vision, and Square Enix's ethics department kept cancelling Taro's projects, so he went to go work on the new Evangelion, where he will undoutedly be able to make all the girls sexy in a way that Square Enix would never allow, because Square Enix is gay and pozzed now, but also because the girls are like 14 years old.
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>>580212932
It's a shame all those outfits will die with the game.
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>>580215357
>>580220376
>7R
To be fair, the thumbnail says Final Fantasy 7. Not Remake.
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I don't care about FF7 anymore.
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You know, I don't think I've seen any of the usual suspects describe Resonance as "staggerslop" like they do all the other games.
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Is anyone still playing duellum
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>>580222032
I’d wager we’ll see some as DLC FiTs
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>>580222050
>To be fair, the thumbnail says Final Fantasy 7. Not Remake.
He's talking about Remake. He says that he hasn't been making Final Fantasy videos lately and he thinks it's because he sort of laments what Final Fantasy has become, citing specifically the Final Fantasy VII Remake, especially alongside the more recent news that Square Enix wants it to continue on forever. With a quick "don't get me wrong, I'm still looking forward to Revelation" thrown in.
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>>580222734
WoFF also had toppling as a gameplay mechanic.
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>>580225560
Okay. I just think it's very revealing that I haven't seen Resonance labeled as the "staggerslop" that it is yet by the usual suspects here. If you don't see one person spamming about "staggerslop" after its release, you'll know who the shitposters have been.
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>>580226529
Wrong general, tranny.
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>>580226932
But anon, he posted FFXVI gameplay..
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>>580227307
That's Devil May Cry, you fucking newfag. You tourists can't even recognize DMC, how fucking embarrassing.
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>>580227307
FFXVI wishes it was that.
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>>580227592
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>>580222734
It's not a primary focus nor action game. It's at best an additional DPS phase like staggering in 13. The lion's share of the DPS doesn't rely on it.
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>>580224358
More people are playing Duellum right now than FFXVI.
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>>580227774
Stagger was much, MUCH more important in XIII. You did fuck all damage outside of Stagger windows and the multiplier could get ridiculously high.
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>>580227765
>i-i-i-i-i was just le trolling, i was being retarded on purpose!
>r-really!!!!
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I'm dating Fina by the way, any red flags?
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>>580228787
He was clearly joking and you're being a raging sperg
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>>580229027
Keep lying to yourself, tourist.
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https://x.com/ProvocativePix/status/1986116298250539176
I knew aerith was a slut
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>>580228872
She has Dissociative Identity Disorder.
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Royal
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>FFXIII popularized and defined the modern version of Stagger used in role-playing games today
Woah... XIII actually influenced the gaming world
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>play the demo for resonance
>no Ariana Grande
???
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>>580224358
Yeah, Bartz is kinda ass though. Which is unfortunate since his skills and gimmick seemed interesting.
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>>580236623
Mod her in
>>580117346
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>>580233073
negativity
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>/ffg/ hates "staggerslop"
>/ffg/ hates memberberries
>/ffg/ hates gacha ("belongs on /vmg/")

>Resonance is memberberries staggerslop gacha, but we love it
The /ffg/ shitpost hivemind has absolutely zero morals or principles. They just justify their shitposts with random reasonings that are never universally applicable.
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Why is he standing like this. He's such a dork
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>>580238419 (me)
Oh also:
>/ffg/ wants "real turn-based FF", not low budget Team Asano slop
>Resonance is low budget Team Asano slop
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Cute and canon!
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>>580238419
BE was gods gift, faggot. It's the exception to the rule.
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>>580242725
kek
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I think it’s safe to say now that BE had the best soundtrack.
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>gachaslop
I bet Ariana Grande's gacha banner sold more than Aerith's flop banners in Ever Crisis.
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>>580243609
Kek kek kek kek so true!
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>>580238419
Is the hivemind in the room with us right now?
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>>580243609
At least say Katy Perry. Her last banner had a ridiculous STMR.
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Can this fit every Final Fantasy game?
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>>580246573
Easily.
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>>580246573
All the VIIR games + XIV + XV is like 600-700 gigs. The rest are inconsequential as far as filesize goes. You maybe could fit them all on 1tb even, but it'd probably be close.
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>>580187117
Currently on a kick to play the series in order. Just finished I last week. On the tail end of II. Debating whether to continue onto III or to take a break.
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>>580248846
Go play 2. Why would you skip?
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>>580232948
Aerith shouldn't show her tummies like that.
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>>580248846
Please tell me you're playing the Soul of Rebirth version
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>>580248846
2 is one of the worst games in the series. It's only up from there. Play FF3 3D next.
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>>580249664
Still way better than Action Slop XVI.
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XVI derangement syndrome in effect!
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Every time I open social media recently, it's just non-stop shilling for the new Onimusha game people going on about how cool the combat looks and how perfect the parry and dodge systems are. It kinda gives me XVI vibes except Onimusha actually has way more cultural impact than XVI could ever dream of. Pretty funny, really. The other FF posts are all Resonance shills, which is a good sight to see.
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>>580250853
XVI is a shit game. Onimusha was always good, even though the new one is largely Onimusha in name only with the Issen mechanic slapped on.
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>>580251628
I've never played Onimusha so I have no comment on that, but judging from what I've seen in the gameplay I can assume it's way better than XVI as a game.
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>>580252210
The final classic Onimusha, Dawn of Dreams, ironically has more RPG elements than FFXVI. Full party system, lots of different upgradable weapons and armor, standard 1 - 99 leveling. XVI is SHIT!
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If you say Final Fantasy as a series is bad, then what is a better series than Final Fantasy?
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>>580252892
XIII, XIV, XV and XVI being bad doesn't mean the whole series is bad. Just that those games are bad.
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>>580253409
XIV and XV are not bad.
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>>580254660
They are.
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>>580250715
The VIIRgin narrative is actually bonkers because they are 100x more guilty of everything they accuse their enemies of, including Rebirth's lack of sales. I can't imagine living with such insane levels of cognitive dissonance. The cognitive dissonance is so extreme that surely their brain, at some point, was like "hey wait" but their shitpost brain broke through to the other side, aided by the power of their latent B-virus cells, and has since released itself from the constraints of facts and logic, until they eventually entered the spiritual realm of Barry-like nirvana, no longer tethered by the reality that binds the rest of us, able to freely experience the unknowable abstract scriptures of Barry math.
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>>580250715
You somehow managed to induce 7R derangement syndrome with this post.
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>>580252892
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02tZAMinwnU
I forgot how good this battle theme was, probably one of my favorites for standard battles
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>>580187117
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KINO
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>>580249107
I'm at the tail end of 2
>>580249386
I am.
>>580249664
The only problem I have with 2 currently is the unholy levels of grinding.
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>>580256587
>I can't imagine living with such insane levels of cognitive dissonance
LACK
OF
FATHER
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Mother....
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>filtered posts
Ha, the fatherless loser got laughed out of /v/ again.
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I noticed that we're all deciding to be very quiet about the OoT post.
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...and Goddess...


Princess! in envying the fate of a Hebe,
Who appears on this cup at the kiss of your lips,
I use up my ardor, but my modest station is only that of abbé
And I won't even appear nude on the Sévres porcelain.

Since I am not your bewhiskered lapdog,
Nor lozenge, nor rouge, nor affected games,
And since I know that you look on me with indifferent eyesy
Blonde whose divine hairdressers are goldsmiths!

Appoint me... you whose many raspberried laughs
Are gathered into flocks of docile lambs,
Nibbling at all vows and bleating deliriously,

Appoint me... in order that Love, with a fan as his wings,
May paint me fingering a flute and lulling this sheepfold,
Princess, appoint me shepherd of your smiles. <3
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>>580268257
I already said my piece, that OoT is overrated trash. The Nintendrones live in denial and pretend it's a good game (it isn't), so there's no point in trying to reason them.
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>>580268486
Okay, but... what if they Remade OoT into a trilogy of 3 games spanning 7 years?
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>>580268060
FUCKER!
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>>580268946
what if your little brother orbits my dick
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>>580269280
It's just a question, anon. No need to start having gay thoughts about it.
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>>580269432
Too late, now you' little brother's ass is gonna pay the price of your stupid question. Tell him I'm coming tonight. And tell him to put on a cute maid outfit.
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>>580238419
People liking games other than 7R really doesn't sit right with me either.
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>7R outta nowhere
strawman doomers acting out this morning.
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>>580191095
Turn the page over
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>>580191450
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>>580273712
Yep, that's 7R derangement syndrome for you...
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I see that the "7R derangement syndrome" plan is working quite nicely.
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>>580274020
Whoops wrong page
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>>580276812
damn brat yuff...
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>>580276501
>see anything 7R-related or bring it up unprompted
>melt down immediately
Yep, that's 7R derangement syndrome in effect...
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>>580196526
The multverse? there's no multiverse.
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https://youtu.be/hl9Fv-ZncHA?list=PLbfwjbLs98qE

I liked this one
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>>580281670
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>>580281670
I liked Onslaught and Order with no Honor
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We got fucking mogged bros
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>>580288590
It kinda just proved to me that remake direction was better
i felt nothing of OoT remake
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>>580288923
Not what I was talking about, moron.
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>>580289058
casually saying that after OoT livestream and its news being everywhere?
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>>580289125
I care minus about your trashy nintendrone game, fuck off to /lozg/ already, this is /ffg/ in case oyu couldn't read.
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>>580289197
Ok anon
why were we mogged, then?
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>>580289242
They're selling more DLC with VIIR.
They're going to sell us stuff that should've been in the game to begin with.
We were mogged.
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>>580289325
mogged by what
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>>580289534
BY SE'S GREED
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>>580289617
thats not what mogged means
get your zoomer terms right
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>>580289197
Schizo, are you okay?
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>>580289325
Are you... criticizing VIIR? We can't have that!
FANS, SILENCE HIM!
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>sudden VIIR derangement syndrome
See?
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>>580289660
>>580289756
>>580290015
I'm proud of /ffg/ for silencing anyone who doesn't love VIIR like us.
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>>580227774
>It's not a primary focus
Lmao, staggering an enemy literally gets you a free turn, and staggering all enemies lets you unleash a free super move. The game is staggerslop.

Although, personally, the thing I hated most was that I couldn't shut off the objective marker and minimap. Instantly dropped.
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>>580292098
more like instantly filtered lmao gottem self-high-five!
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>>580289197
Based. We don't care for Nintroondies here. Take it to /v/.
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>>580292098
>Although, personally, the thing I hated most was that I couldn't shut off the objective marker and minimap. Instantly dropped.
overall, the game suffers from feeling too much like "Octopath if it were Final Fantasy". If we'd gotten this 5 or 6 years ago, I'd be more interested, but I'm fucking burnt out on Square's modern, HD-2D formula.

The one thing I'll say this game seems to have improved from all previous HD-2D slop is that there's less dialogue, overall. Don't get me wrong, there's still WAY too much talking, but it's not as absurd as it was in Octopath or Triangle Strategy.
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>>580290252
This is 7R derangement syndrome. Your reaction to anything 7R being posted. You can't help yourself. Every time you try to play into it, you prove the point further.
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>>580293439
>I'm fucking burnt out on Square's modern, HD-2D formula
And this is why the REAL Final Fantasy, the mainline games, are NOT HD2D.
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>>580293442
Bodied that freak.
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>>580293551
Nah. The HD3D slop formula was old long before HD2D slop was even a thing. Square just makes shitty games all around, now, because they are a bad and lazy company resting on their laurels. Many such cases.
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Why didn't Ocarina of Time Remake need 3 separate games and multiverse plot ghosts?
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>>580300842
>>>/vg/lozg/
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>>580264181
>>580300842
@grok is this true?
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>>580300842
I don't know but the game looks ugly as shit. It looks like an UE5 Mario meme
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>>580301268
but enough about Rebirth
we're discussing the 10/10 OoT Remake!
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>>580301345
It's really impressive how they managed to make OoT look uglier than the DQ7 Reimagine
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>>580301345
Wrong general, tranny, go to >>580295954
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>>580301558
I like the aesthetic of both of those.
What art style would you have preferred?
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>>580301674
HD-2D of couse.
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>>580301345
looks like you struck a nerve
>>580301786
lol
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>>580300842
Because Nintendo is aware that not all publicity is good publicity and that shitting on their old fans will piss them off.
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>>580300842
>Why didn't Ocarina of Time Remake need 3 separate games and multiverse plot ghosts?
You know Hamaguchi, Nomura and some various SE execs are all sitting somewhere right now watching the OOT trailer
and thinking this exact thing in the back of their minds
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>>580268486
>>580268946
Children, children. OoT and FFVII both suck.
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>>580303204
OoT is offtopic and therefore worse.
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>>580303204
true, I prefer ALTTP and FFVI
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Oot is a fine game. Dungeons and bosses are mostly good and fun. Over praised? Yes but being a contrarian about it being decent is faggy and childish.
FF7 is also a fine game, vastly overhyped, and didn't need a ten year remake series, but here we are.
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>>580304367
>>580305070
Wrong general, tranny. Go to >>580295954
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>>580307420
I'm bumped your sad general kek, be grateful faggot.
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>>580308345
Wrong general, tranny, go to >>>/vg/lozg/
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>tranny
Why you want me to be a troon is that your fag fetish
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>>580300842
Because taking a single beloved game from everyone's childhood and bastardizing it by turning it into a trilogy is just about the most greedy and underhanded thing anyone could ever possibly do. The fans would never be on board for that. It's so ridiculous it sounds like an Onion article. Next you're gonna tell me that they plan to keep releasing the same one game, which they already turned into a trilogy, forever and ever.
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>>580313421
Can't imagine why anyone that doesn't secretly hate said game would support that idea.
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>>580313421
Sad but true
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>>580313602
I could imagine the most diehard, soulless, tendiest tendies defending a OoT trilogy. Some of their arguments that I've seen are so crazy that it's impossible to believe they aren't shills, but I think even a paid shill would have difficulty coming up with some of the things they say.

For some gamers, their games or companies of choice transcend gaming and become a religion to them. And once someone's choice of entertainment becomes their religion, there is no more reasoning with them. It's sad and strange, but it's also the most desirable outcome for a company that it have devout devotees who treat their games or one of their games as a divine, religious idol of worship. If a company ever managed to turn customers into zealots, they could probably even get away with turning that OoT trilogy into something that goes on forever.
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>>580314665
I fucking hate OoT. It's a nice game, but I feel like it's massively overrated. All dungeons are "find item, use item on boss". I think even ALttP has better dungeons, and Majora's Mask has a lot of more interesting characters, characters in OoT are just glorified signs telling you to go there or go here.
I returned often to the Kokiri Forest and I was very annoyed that once you're done with the Forest Temple, there's no longer any reason to go back: NPCs don't get new lines, they don't comment on the world getting restored or why it's weird that you're here or the Mojo Tree growing back, no, they're all like "Is Saria still in the forest temple", and you're like "yo little girl I fixed Saria's issues ages ago, anyway hop in my van I got some candy".
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>>580315056
I'm just glad that, even though all of my favorite childhood games are THE favorite games of the era, my favorite-favorite games have managed to avoid being slopped to death by the nostalgiabait lack of creativity soullessness of the modern era and the nufans that pervade it.
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>>580315610
...the Unholy War? Ninja Shadow of Darkness? Akuji the Heartless? Team Buddies?
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>>580315828
Although I do remember seeing Ninja and Akuji at the vidya rental store all the time, I think the only one of those games I've played is Team Buddies but I barely remember it.
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>>580316054
Ninja is that weird fucking game I played 10 minutes off but it lives in my head since. Kinda like Deathtrap Dungeons and Team Buddies.
Through Team Buddies was never sold in my country, I only got the demo. And I never understood what they fucking said, these lemon bastads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QFREKzRzLY
"CAHM OVAH HER' AND I'LL SLAP YA LIKE A BITCH"
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>>580316348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mql8yc1Nt_0
There were a ton of games I'd see all the time when trying to decide which game to rent. A lot of them just looked stupid or low budget or not cool or whatever, so I never had any interest in them. Every once in a while, when I really didn't know what game I wanted, my mom or dad would pick a game, and it was usually trash just like I thought it would be from the box.

One time though, I think it was my mom, she picked Spike McFang and that was actually an extremely kino game. The game looked stupid based on the box so I never got it until she picked it, and I still remember how surprised I was that it was an actually good game. I'm sure there are like 1 or 2 other times that happened where a game I thought was going to be retarded ended up being good, but Spike McFang was the first time that happened for me and the only one I can remember off the top of my head.
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>>580316958
I really like the colour style, reminds me of Actraiser and... what was the name... Ys? Lagoon?
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>>580318128
Yeah, it's just a top-down action game from the era.
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>>580300842
>>580313421
>>580303075
The real reason is that OoT remake doesnt have a real story to expand on. Also, Nintendo has no ambition, no real new mechanics, or battle system or exploration.
Meanwhile, SE actually bothered doing something entertaining and unique that feels like playing FF7 for the first time again.
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>>580319014
I like it. Well, in appearance, I haven't played it.
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>>580320125
>The real reason is that OoT remake doesnt have a real story to expand on.
Shoving whispers and Sephiroth into every scene are not an "expansion" on the original story.

>SE actually bothered doing something entertaining and unique that feels like playing FF7 for the first time again.
They failed to understand what made the original VII good, while also simultaneously failing to understand what made the Evangelion Rebuild good. It's quite impressive actually. And no, it does not feel like "playing FF7 for the first time again". It feels like playing a decent action game with a dogshit story which has been modded and has replaced all of the former characters with the cast of Final Fantasy VII.
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>>580320830
>Shoving whispers and Sephiroth into every scene are not an "expansion" on the original story.
why did you focus on one single aspect you didnt like?
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>>580320830
>They failed to understand what made the original VII good
No, they just didnt appeal to the very specifics you personally believe FFVII was good for.
>And no, it does not feel like "playing FF7 for the first time again". It feels like playing a decent action game with a dogshit story which has been modded and has replaced all of the former characters with the cast of Final Fantasy VII.
A lot of people played FFVII remake for the first time and they really liked it. That's proof it works.
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>>580320892
>why did you focus on one single aspect
>>>one single aspect
Because it is a recurring issue that is also the simplest one to point, because anyone who has played the games know what I am talking about.
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>>580321016
>No, they just didnt appeal to the very specifics you personally believe FFVII was good for.
No, the existence of VII Remake demonstrates a misunderstanding of both source materials it is attempting to be. A misunderstanding of the original Final Fantasy VII (the source material) as well as a misunderstanding of the Evangelion Rebuild movies (the source material for what they tried, but failed, to turn the Remake into). AI could not have crafted something this soulless even if it tried.
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>>580320125
Cool, but I'll still purchase OoT and not Revelation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9kcwGafVKI
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>>580322113
>first CEO created trilogies and the FF7 forever expanding universe
>second CEO made the push into mobile gacha games and all of the live service games that notoriously flopped, like Babylon's Fall

Kiryu cannot possibly end up being worse, can he?
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Maybe my mind just isn't in the mood but does Resonance ever pick up and get more intricate? I understand you can't do much in the first hour of a game so I could give the story a pass but there barely seem to be any hidden interactions etc. in maps and frankly, I get the feeling it's not something that gets much better as you go, doesn't seem like the game is built around that.
At least stagger isn't as obnoxious as I feared.
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>>580322727
doesnt matter
LE TURN BASED!
just clap, anon, thats what old ff fags want.
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>>580292098
>staggering an enemy literally gets you a free turn, and staggering all enemies lets you unleash a free super move
But you deal much more damage without it than XIII or XVI and it takes longer to stagger them. The big moves aren't as major as limit breaks and doing skills.
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>>580323043
>doesnt matter
>LE TURN BASED!
It really is that simple. On the surface, Resonance is everything that /ffg/ says it hates. It's a cheap Team Asano game, it's a reuse of an EoS'd gacha's assets, it's staggerslop, it's "look, it's Final Fantasy!" nostalgia memberberry bait. It's everything that /ffg/ hates in literally *any* other conversation about *any* other FF or SE title. But Resonance is getting a pass because it's "the Final Fantasy game that fans have been waiting for", i.e. "it's a turn-based game that has the name Final Fantasy in the title", and it's not any more complicated than that.
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>>580273635
Many people are saying this.
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>>580320892
Seems a bit strange to be hyperfixated on the one plot point you really don't like while ignoring dozens and dozens of hours of gameplay across Remake and Rebirth. I think we all understand that (You) don't like The Whispers and are very angry at Tetsuya Nomura. I hope that one day you'll let it go after you realize that it's not for you. Maybe then you can move on
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Players dont want turn-based as proven by E33. E33 is not actually a turn-based game. Offensively, it's a QTE game, but you barely play offense in E33. It's almost entirely a defensive game, where all you do is time your Parries and your Jumps and your Dodges and you Gradients to the enemy's attacks, thus making it a real-time game. The turn-based portion of E33 is maybe like 20% of the gameplay being generous but much lower if I'm being honest. It's like 80% active time parrying. Then 10% active time QTE button presses. Then 10% actual turn-based, and of that 10% sometimes you're doing third-person shooting. Thus over 90% of what players like isn't turn-based in E33.
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>>580324710
Nice reddit pasta.
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>>580323385
But anon, that's not what /ffg/ hates the most. /ffg/ hates FF lacking any coherent direction and instead poorly attempting action in failed attempts to get more new players like FFXVI. They assume old players would just get games like how FF7R casually reveals and spoils OG FF7 plot lines while going a different direction. /ffg/ dislikes the implementation of newer games like extremely shallow action systems that fail to reach DMC3 levels and instead rely on effects and spectacle.
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>>580324710
Almost everyone considers E33 to be a turn-based game meaning they do not realize this. Selecting commands from a menu is seemingly all the culture war needs.
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This is what FF players hate the most about XVI. They wanted the Naruto audience but failed to commit. Clive may be the Ifrit Jinchuriki chosen one who gets powers from all the other Tailed Beasts, fighting against the alien god creator of their magic powers trying to gather everyone's power into a fruit, but they failed to include pic. This is because they killed Cid without resurrecting him.
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>>580325028
>But anon, that's not what /ffg/ hates the most.
I did list the things that /ffg/ hates the most in any other conversation besides the one relating to Resonance. Years of "gacha belongs on /vmg/". Years of "staggerslop" shitpost spam. Years of "we don't want low budget Team Asano slop, we want a real turn-based FF game". Years of "it's bad to put Final Fantasy into Final Fantasy just of the sake of being Final Fantasy".

All of these things present in Resonance, however.
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>>580325453
Who are you talking to?
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>>580325028
He can't deny his list is skewed and inaccurate. He can't even accept how the execution of all of them is the problem like you said. I bet he thinks e33 is actually turn based. Watch him seethe as his deliberate misrepresentation fails.
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Final fantasy is about sex with men
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>>580300842
>Why didn't Ocarina of Time Remake need 3 separate games
That's a strawman. Nothing "needs" to be done in any way. No game "needs to be remade" at all. FFVII was done that way though, and it was done because it was an ambitious creative endeavor for them to attempt to achieve. CS1 has always tried to be ambitious with Final Fantasy titles and do something fresh every time.

OoT was one cartridge. FFVII was 3 discs, and that was unheard of in the series history. It was born from limitations but that thicker jewel case helped define the PS1 era of big budget cinematic games. It mattered. During the years when the game was being imagined in the eyes of the public, multiple discs doesn't really carry the same grandiosity. It really just means "there's not enough space on one disk", and everyone knows that now. So there really isn't an equivalent way to capture that same feeling of 3 disc grandiosity, they have to do something else.

Enter the trilogies. During the 2000's and 2010's trilogies were absolutely everywhere. I don't think I need to explain that very much. The concept of turning a 3-disc PS1 game into a 3-game trilogy is a contemporary refresh on the same concept born from limitation that made FFVII stand apart to begin with.

Is it a successful idea? Depends on who you ask. For some people, VIIR has been a major staple for these almost 7 years. We've had a great time playing the games despite their imperfections. Some wanted the entire book to be thrown out and are upset it's not more different. Many others would prefer a much more scaled back approach that doesn't try anything new but simply gives us exactly what was asked for. FFVII with new graphics. A "Remaster++" with a new translation and voice acting. Something resembling a mod pack. They don't want fleshed out concepts taken from the original concepts to challenge them or ideas from across the VII Compilation all put into one singular definitive FFVII experience told across 3 games.
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I am sad because Kite's Dot Hack games both are more turn based than E33 and that they had dummy data taking up much of each disk so they can sell 4 games that fit into one disk.
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>>580326626
GU is better
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>>580327349
Pretty cool
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>>580315056
>All dungeons are "find item, use item on boss"
I mean, OoT is a kids game after all. It's a damn fine game though, with very well crafted atmosphere, incredible music and some brilliant usage of technical limitations. It's the single most definitive action adventure title in history IMO, every single game for decades now all use the 3D camera view and Z-targeting that OoT innovated. From the mountains of Souls-likes, to Witcher and now even all FF games. Basically every 3rd person action game uses a form of lock-on targeting with angled camera.

If you were a Playstation kid, spoiled with that massive library of smash hit games, OoT was probably the one game you really wanted to play from the N64 that you would have legitimately missed out on because there truly was no equivalent.
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>>580327505
>I mean, OoT is a kids game after all
Compare it to A Link To The Past or Majora's Mask where it's not the case.
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>>580238508
why would they show off the superboss of game though
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>>580327621
>ALTTP and Majora's Mask aren't kids games
Because? They're all kids games mate. I think the problem you actually have is that it's the very first 3D Zelda game and so they kept the refreshed mechanics mostly straight forward. Look around > gain item > use item to solve problem. In 2D space they can craft different problems to solve while creating a 3D space meant that there were less opportunities to use dungeon items outside of their intended use.

Can you point to an example about those games in particular whenever compared to OoT, that doesn't fall under the same "gain item > use item to solve problem" design?
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Just started Resonance, seems pretty cool.
I know the bar in the top left is the action order, but what does the bar in the center top represent?
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>>580328376
>Can you point to an example about those games in particular whenever compared to OoT, that doesn't fall under the same "gain item > use item to solve problem" design?
Every dungeon? The item you find in Woodfall Dungeon isn't needed to kill Odolva, and isn't the item you need to unlock the next dungeon. Same in... whatever the fuck the Goron dungeon is named, the boss infamously in that one could be killed with just the goron mask (until Grezzo fucked it up, or so I heard). Same with the purification plant whose boss could be beaten with just the Zora mask.
No clue about Stone Tower, friend whose game I borrowed moved out so I had to give it back to him before I could finish the mummies quest.

Anyway, my point is that in these dungeons, you don't need the dungeon's item to beat the boss.
Same in ALttP, through I struggle to remember the bosses names. The witch woman that you kill in the palace can be killed with just the master sword, that fucking PONG worm that boucnes off the edges of the fucking arena only takes sword hits to be killed, and I also remember a butterfly that you have to kill with your sword when the dungeon item was a fire rod.
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>>580328908
So you don't like that the game made many of its dungeon items required for combat? You like it better when bosses are literally identical to any other fight in the game?

Kinda weird but you're free to hate the game however you'd like (you haven't played it in 20 years)
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>>580328908
>Anyway, my point is that in these dungeons, you don't need the dungeon's item to beat the boss.
I kneel before Ghirahim and his eyes too small to target.
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>>580328580
Isn't it a preview of the next turn?
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>>580329148
I don't like that OOT is lauded as the best game in forever when it's piss easy. It's celebrating mediocrity and nostalgia google.

Of course you're free to be wrong and blinded by nostalgia, but if you act like a NPC, don't be surprised if you're treated like one.
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>>580330041
>celebrating mediocrity and nostalgia google
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>>580330027
There's 2 bars.
I think the bar in the top left is the Turn order, I don't know what the smaller bar in the top middle represents
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>>580330352
Yeah, that's what I mean. Top left is current turn, Top middle is next turn.
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>come back to /ffg/
>someone samefagged themselves, created a strawman that wasn't related to anything I said, and then argued against it
Love this thread sometimes.
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>>580330267
I kneel before the death of classical materialism
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>>580330041
Anon... you described VII Remake and VII Remake fans.
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>>580330041
The best game of all time is pacman, retard
Everyone likes playing pacman. Maybe miss pacman since it has the little cutscenes and shit.
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>>580334719
I don't like playing pacman.
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>>580334968
Should have been clearer then, every *human being* likes playing pacman.
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>>580336503
I am a human being and I don't like playing Pacman. I'd rather play Pong than play Pacman. I'd rather play Missile Command than play Pacman. I'd much, much, much rather play Tempest than Pacman. I'd rather play DigDug than Pacman. I'd rather play Centipede than play Pacman.

I'd rather fucking play SNAKE than play Pacman.
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>>580337201
>I am a human being
I don't believe you
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I liked Arkanoid with the knobby paddle
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>>580337201
>I am a human being
Nice try Gary.
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ffvii revelation escaped steam achievements leaks lmao
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>>580350013
Persona 6's achievements getting leaked before the game is even fully announced is funnier.
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>blud literally spent 8 hours discussing zelda
lmao
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What did I miss, something something faithful remakes vs reimagining?
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Does anyone know if the ever crisis EOS means a full shutting down of servers and becoming unplayable or is it just a halt of future content with servers still up? I kind of want to go through it but not really in a hurry
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>>580359989
Someone made a mock up of the OoT remake announcement: >>580264181
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Somehow, 7R derangement syndrome returned.
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https://steamdb.info/app/3259780/stats/

is there anything special here
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>>580365990
This strategy has really been paying dividends.
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>>580222734
Weird how that happens, isn't it?
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>>580369228
It's very effective because by shitposting about 7R, he's proving the point more and more with each post.
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>people are praising the 10/10 FFXVI
What in the world is going on?
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>>580372820
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>485 players right now
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XVI derangement syndrome has returned to the thread.
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>922 players 24-hour peak
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>>580375054
Buy an ad.
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>>580375054
I don't follow faggot e-celebs.
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>>580380689
Nobody with a brain does, but sadly Barry is not smart and is a mindless sheeple who needs his opinion validated by some random faggot on the Musk Rat's nazi propaganda platform.
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excited for resonance, don't care about revelation, simple as
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>>580372820
Final Fantasy games are only appreciated after they aged.
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>>580381702
Like girls.
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>>580381798
Explain the Krilepedo.
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>>580381849
He's American.
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>>580381849
He's a conservative.
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>>580381849
He's from the North, they're all hypocrites ranting about protecting the kids while simultaneously sodomizing them.
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>>580375054
Then just say "i dont like his voice". Don't have to turn it into a whole crusade against every single aspect of a character just because you dont like the voice.
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>>580388810
Eh, I wouldn't accept the criticism even if he did leave it at that.
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I got to D3 in dissidia! I wonder if I can get to d1+... But I only have 11k combat power so probably no unless I get carried
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WHY ARE THEY MARKETING REVELATION SO MUCH
I THOUGHT THE TRILOGY FFFFLLLLOOOOOOOPPPEEEDDDDDD
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but what about XVI....
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I SAW AN UNKNOWN, THE HORSE FACE
TAKING PICS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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ROMANCING SAGA 3 FULL 3D REMAKE

TURN BASED GODS WINNING, STAGGERSLOP GARBAGE REJECTED
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>>580400952
romancing saga 2 and 3 have stagger you retard
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Torneko‘s Mystery Dungeon -Classic HD-...
I fuarking kneel...
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Clive will get a Bayonetta outfit when XVI inevitably gets ported to the Switch 2.
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>>580401134
no they dont
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Did anyone else see revelation advertised during the direct and immediately think about their enemies on 4chan instead of being excited for the game?
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>>580402685
Something that is better than XVI
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>>580402742
Yep, this guy >>580397778
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So how is FF Resonance?
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>>580210491
>no mention of Escaflowne
Damn zoomers.
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>>580402856
>better than the 10/10 FFXVI
Are you sure?
That's a really high bar
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>>580404480
It's ok. Plot is on the dull side and suffers from obvious gacha writing, battle system is promising. It'll probably be decent enough.
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>>580402685
Looks like it's an experiment in the Sunken Gelnica.



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