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>>580936992Old:>>580903463
>>580936992Champion you just posted cringe!
>>580936757>a belly button is absolute fuck allI DISAGREE.
>>580936992So what's the starting zone story like? I know you pick either Horde or Alliance at the START of it so I imagine the Skyborne are pretty divided from the get go? Maybe an isolationist party at odds with a more liberal one.
>$30 price tag in order to play an attractive race as a horde player or to play the perfect stand-in for high elves as an alliance playerBravo, Blizzard. Skyborne are the ultimate grift.
>>580936992>exodar crashed so hard it evaporated an entire race of elvesIs that really the official explanation for them not being in reail? The fuck blizzard?
My last shilling for nowhttps://youtu.be/T55gtXO5gfQ?si=daSmGgyC3ks66xZf&t=1Some third worlders are fine
>>580937571Link?
>>580937345Wait a minute those markings...
>>580936992SOON
>>580937345I know that underboob...
Why does literally no one care of retoilet? Mightnight is heating up while TLT is just around the corner. The epic culmination to a twenty year story saga.
>>580937707>no sneed elfFake
>>580937707I'm fine if trannies want to play as female elves
>>580937707All these troll devolutionary descendants...
>blizzard rigged the mdi for china>they got crushed by liquid
>In Forever I can tank dungeons with Survival Hunter>2 Handed Shaman that can tank dungeons>Warlock without a petwhy can't they do this with Retail bros
>>580938143That sounds fuckin stupid. Only people with plate armor should tank.
>>580938143Petless warlocks are a thing since mop...
>>580938143>Warlock without a petDo they still have that horribly undertuned talent? I haven't touched my warlock in years.
>>580938185Or fur, apparently.
>>580938107China only has sweats, America has dedicated professional teams who do this for a living and have gamed it to a science as God intended.
>>580938143no pet warlock has been a thing several times in retail and it's always gay as fuck when it's a thing.
>>580938201>>580938213They have it in retail but it's absolutely worthless
>>580938143You wont be able to tank shit as survival lmao
>>580938213They do, and it was indirectly made even worse because of the huge buff they gave to all the pets.At this point I'm convinced they make it intentionally garbage just to shit on the undying memory of Xelnath.
>>580938439They nerfed it because lock players like pet faggotry
>>580937828It's too early in the patch cycle to hype up what we'll actually get in 12.2, we're not even close to 12.1.5 yet, and Blizzard knows from past experience that it's retarded to kneecap the final patch of an expansion by doing a big reveal of the next expansion first. See 8.3 being considered a flop and a waiting room for Shadowlands, because Shadowlands was revealed 2 months before 8.3 even came out.
>>580938357Why is it called survival if they can't survive?
>>580938554They can survive outside!
>>580938520Is that why Felguard sucks a mountain of cock for the only spec that can use it and does less single-target damage than a woman with a whip?
>>580938606Ironically most hunters are played by people afraid to even go outside and touch grass.
i can't choose between paladin, warrior and rogue for foreveri guess i'll go with paladin since im retarded uncgamer at this point..
>>580938987Dunno maybe
>>580939045You can't go wrong with straight human white male paladin
>>580939137>paladinenjoy being shoehorned into healing lmao
>>580939045I think it's a fools game to pick a main now.I'm waiting to see what kind of last minute panic buffs/nerfs to talents will happen after people who actually know how to play Classic get their hands on the game when the Beta starts and start breaking everything.
WoW Forever actually instilled a slight bit of hope in me, a player who quit because of the button pruning.Could it be possible they return to more complex class design with Forever filling the needs for casuals and the people living in old folks homes?Sometimes I have the urge to return, but, my healer ain't got no kick.
>>580939528>Could it be possible they return to more complex class design with Forever filling the needs for casuals and the people living in old folks homes?No
Anyone a little bit bored seeing the new patch area? It's got zerith mortis vibes. The piss yellow an purple areas are off-putting too.
>>580939725Are you insane? Literally nothing in those pics looks like zereth mortis.
>>580939810this bit specifically
Forever is the true canon. Y'all are playing a gay fanfiction. Y'all are playing... Gaytail.
>>580939528>Could it be possible they return to more complex class design with Forever filling the needs for casuals and the people living in old folks homes?100% no. People bitch and moan that retail classes are too "complicated" and "bloated".
>>580939910That looks like ringing deeps and zaralek. I don't even remember crystals in zm just spheres.
>>580939624>>580939981sadness.
The fact that there are no Kultiran paladins pisses me off, a fucking night elf but no Kultirans after showing so many of them being paladins up to this point...
>>580940118>so many of them being paladins up to this point...I only remember one but lets be real they picked nelf because they are popular
>>580940118I bet they forgot kultirans even exist.
>>580940007>>580939810ZM had a fetish for blocky shapes and spheres.
>>580940204This time next year 40% of characters will be nelves. If they get shaman I can see 80% easy.
>>580940204>they picked nelf because they are popularThat would be the most retarded reason, which means it's probably exactly that.>"let's ignore an unpopular race and add mor to the already most popular one"
>>580940260The forms are kinda similar but its not the same the cavern looks exactly like zaralek and depths.
>>580940118I've yet to see a KT in plate that didn't look beyond stupid.
>>580939219Nonny didn't look at the talent trees. Paladin is actually good now. And the nillafags are being ousted en masse because Forever isn't for them so they'll have no influence whatsoever on what does and doesn't get played when they're nothing but a drop in the ocean if eventual Forever players. I still wouldn't want to fucking play one, though.
>>580940292Yeah meld is too fucking strong.>>580940305That's not really retarded, popular shit get attention and it will sell race changes because of meld on the other hand no one is going to care if they add kt paladin.
>>580939910>nobody remembers Deepholm
>>580940292I'll stop playing a night elf when the stuck in combat bug is finally fucking fixed.So never.
>>580940506I liked that zone. On Cata launch day. Not so much after that.
>>580940494>That's not really retardedIt is.They could have added both.
>>580936992>WUH WUH WHAT?! I CAN PAY 30 DOLLARS TO PLAY AS A BLOOD ELF RECOLOR IN WORLD OF WARCRAFT "FOREVER"?! LET ME JUST FINISHING SHITTING MY STY IN DELIGHT AND PRE PURCHASE THIS YUMMY SLOPPA! HOLD ON. AAAAAHHHHHH UUURRGGGH. JUST SHIT MY BRAINS OUT SOMETHING FIERCE. OINK OINK SUUUUUUEY SUUUUUUEEEEEEEEY SNORT SNOOOORT *braaap* SUUUUUUEY SUUUUEEEEEY OINK OINK OINK *braaaaaap*
>>580937707You forgot to add rainbow elf at the bottom
>>580937707Hear me out: think of how much content this would fund. I think it may be worth it, Foreverbros.
>>580939725i like the 3rd screenshot quite a lot
>>580940924What's wrong with paypigs? let them spend their money however they want!https://files.catbox.moe/7ctyy5.png
>>580939725I can't escape Arator and his mom and dad (Pic 2)Do you guys think they'll be main characters in TLT too?
This is the one. It's the one that will break all casual and veteran players alike. Casual players want to fit in for the 'older experience', veteran players are desperate for the 'old good new bad' experience. Neither actually want this shit. The few that are left will return to retail to a much lower player count as many will first be fucked over and many are tired of being fucked over. Come 2027 there will only be retail.
WE ARE SO BACK, NELFIE PALADINS
>>580940118Why does anyone wanna play as those fat retards
>forever in 2 years time>hit 60>27 billion different things to do because they keep adding more and moreAre they smart enough to avoid this shit that happens in retail during the late expansion?
How much of a shitfit are you fags gonna throw when Forever doesn't have any addon restrictions?
>>580941612It happens by the first patch of nuExpansions lol
>>580936992>We want to keep the same feel and style of Classic WoW>Anyway here's some blueberry elves with pink hair BUY BUY BUY
>>580939725i dont see zerith mortis at all. zerith mortis was mostly lush greens and very light grey stone with gold and lots of translucent forcefields and runesi see deepholm, ulduar, and BFA azerite
>paladin is generally a popular class>ret is always popular>holy is popular/meta>expansion has light and paladin themes>people will be rolling night elf, forsaken, and darkspear paladinsThe end of the expansion is going to be a sea of pink names
>meanwhile still no kul tiran paladins despite kul tiran paladins literally being in the game right now
>>580941849Who cares about landwhales?
>>580941971The chinks abusing the knockback disconnect bug in blitz care.
>>580941556Should be glowing white like the moon. Don't expect the general spell effects to change colour, but they could at least get the mount right for their actual Goddess worshipping magic.
>>580941838as supposed to whatever else is fotm?
>>580941849If they're in the game already then why are you complaining
>>580941610They don't even have combat facial animations. They just stare blankly
>yeah I want to play this fantasy game to control an obese characterSaid no one ever.
>>580942240ogres
>>580942240pandaren and kul tiran players somehow exist
>yeah I want to play this fantasy game to control a transsexual reptile character
>>580941838Nobody played pallys for 2 entire expansions until their revamp at the start of Dragonflight.
>>580942240Thats why ogres is the most retarded idea ever. Holly would just straight up laugh at you. No one wants to play anything except human male and female elf
>yeah I want to play this fantasy game to control a green skinned shortstack sex goddessSaid everyone in here
>>580942453A very vocal minority is pushing for the garbage of Ogres, Naga and Sethrak and they know full well not to listen to them
>>580942240>he doesn't know
>>580942496TRVKE
>>580942496>yeah i'm attracted to sickly looking yellowish-green skinsaid only you and the few freaks like you
https://www.wowhead.com/news/void-elf-paladin-in-patch-10-2-7-hints-at-future-possibilities-339902BIMBODOREI SIS, WE DIDN'T GET PALADINS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
What is it about elf fags that give them a borderline autistic obsession with elves of all colors? They are just fruity humans with pointed ears. I guess people like that idk. You can understand why people like the other human-like races. Dwarfs are super masculine and badass. Gnomes are smart and comedic. Orcs are peak masculinity. Elves have that niche of being flamboyant. I guess I just didn't want to believe so many enjoy that fantasy. Night elves are alright I guess.
What's a good server to play on as an alliance player.
>>580942868Orcs are ugly and sauron and saruman bitches. Dwarves are comedy relief characters. Humans are cool main characters like aragorn. Elves are the pinnacle of beauty like legolas. Gnomes are loser crybabies like Frodo. You may not like it, but this is what normies think.
>>580943040PVP (forever)
>>580942868All that could be avoided if blizzard just made high elves called high elves and that's that.It's blizzard who chooses to jump through retarded hoops.
>releasing wow forever during the worst expansion since shadowlandsare they just giving up on retail?
>>580943465Midnight is so boring I went back to Korthia. I'm farming sylvanus mount
Do they still say "Amani Quality" around here?
>>580942868Elves are only supposed to be druids or hunters. They're people of the land. The OG 'trad' if you will. Your 'Faustian spirit' circlejerk of a white man. They're cool because they venture or live where no human can, thus making them superior in nature by their basic instinct of life etc.I dunno go read a book or something, start with the 3.5 Player's Manual you fucking retard.
>>580942868>>580943120It's literally this. The helf fans literally just wanted Alliance high elves. That's it.It's Blizz that makes these random flavors of elf to spite helf fans, because Kikekostas has white people and views it as racist whites wanting aryan stand-ins.
Anyone paypig'd and reserved their name?Are you allowed to use stuff like Lord/Lady/Mister/Miss etc. as the First Name?
>>580943732name reserves aren't up yet
>>580943732Is it paypigging if you get it with gold you had lying around?
https://www.warcrafttavern.com/forever/news/ion-holly-interview-blizzcon-2026/
>>580943938Kind of a follow up question. What about the newest, newest, newest players that are going to find out so many options — and they should try Classic, they should try Forever, how [have you] managed to move that energy towards the right direction, or the direction you believe is the best?>It’s a wonderful question. I don’t think we have it fully perfected yet, but I think we’re gonna be directing our messaging… “messaging” sounds terrible. But, our thoughts, kind of like last night — if you’ve never played, please try Forever because you’ll get in on the ground floor with other people just like you. Like, you’ll all be essentially going at the same pace, at the same time. So we want to make sure we’re communicating that out more broadly — and please, if you could help us send that message out, that would be great.
>>580943708Never give in to the demands of the mentally ill
>DOODZ DARK PORTAL NEVER OPENS, AZEROTH HORIZONTALLY DEVELOPS COMPLETELY ON ITS OWNNNNNNN!!!Does anyone actually believe this shit? They'll eventually go off-world with TBC+ or TBC Forever or whatever the fuck. It will all begin anew, everyone will swear by this new timeline until another hack write throws a wrench and now instead of just one shitty WoW timeline, we end up with several.
>>580943938Ion:>Yeah, I think I would say Forever in November is going to be an excellent starting point for anyone who’s never experienced WoW before just because of the pace and the revisiting where it all began narratively, but to your other question — I think another strength of the way WoW exists today is that this is all covered under your same subscription. So, no one’s forcing you to make a hard, rigid choice. If someone comes in and is playing Forever and they want to check out Modern World of Warcraft and see what’s going on in the Worldsoul Saga, they can play all the way to level 80 without needing to buy Midnight or anything, experience all of that, see what that flavor of the game is like, and decide what’s best for them.
>next patch makes maze+ titles spec specificironically, doesnt this make metafagging actually kind of a legitimate challenge? You're going to be intentionally going against both the highest absolute number of people, and presumably the best players in the game whose natural tendencies will be playing the best specs to do the best keys.
ion has always sounded like ai speak. im convinced the ai models trained off of him
>>580943938Holly:>So, the Forever team is mostly fashioned from the Classic team, which, to your point, very reactive, vocal, scrappier, which is actually… (Audience member says something and Holly laughs).>If we’re talking about time to iterate on issues and make corrections, the modern team is, in number and effectiveness, faster than Classic. We could probably argue they almost do… they’re doing so much, so often. Like, if we could show you our hotfix numbers from each, it’s impressive, almost scary at times, but they’re very successful.So I guess the Retail Team/Writers AREN'T at Forever like anons here said.
kek dude's mask is just comically stretched to fit his wide obese face
>>580944314I hate this
>>580944140The retail devs are just so fucking lazy. None of them wan to actually fix the new player problem on retail. Remember how we where supposed to get a starting experience revamp this xpac? Only for them to add big lore NPCs to Exiles Reach and nothing else?
>>580944314they really need a pandaren thats more like the older art proportions than the kung fu panda we got. keep both models, but make it a posture style toggle
>>580944052So spawn 15 other things worse than the original to combat a false enemy?Peak retardation.
>>580944504Have you ever read the high elf thread on the official forums? Funny as fuck
>>580944498third pic is perfect, I'd roll pandaren immediately if they looked like that
>>580943938That response about squishes is disheartening.I want Forever's horizontal progression brought to retail. Squishes and ilvl scaling are two of the most cancerous dogshit things ever brought to retail WoW.
>>580944594I love the interviewer really didn't hold anything back, the jump in the last patch is huge for NO reason
Which of the shaman specializations is the best thematicly for a dwarf?
>>580944265he's a literal lawyer
>>580944314delete this post
>>580944703enhancement is pretty wildhammer coded, but the other caster specs play into dwarf ancestor reverenceso honestly all 3 of them, with the right hero talents
>>580943938>Nothing to announce at this time, but we’ll definitely do one again, and way down the line, I would say that, as we hit level 100 again in Last Titan, we’ll probably want to look at another level squish like we did back in Shadowlands.TLT is the last xpac for retail sayers found dead in ditch lmao.
>>580936992The Exodar was sabotaged by blood elves.
>>580944314So many headgear do this on mandaren, the fel biker one looks very silly
>>580943938>You see we'd like to but the WoW Forever team actually put in the effort to improve lighting and effects as well as add some things to Forever and the Retail team isn't quite there yetkek
>>580944726for how long? people call him a lawyer but at this point he's had probably 5x the career years as a gamedev than a lawyer. its like calling a racecar driver a frycook because they spent a few years after highschool flipping burgers
>>580944910I'm curious what build of the game they forked from.
>>580944891>fel bikerwhich one is that
Belf druids?
>>580944934he's still practicing, both his legal practice and jewish practice
>>580943839To these poor faggots it is, because they can't comprehend the idea of playing the game and gaining that gold.
>>580945041It has all the modern features like customizable UI so it must be some recent build of retail.
>>580945083https://www.wowhead.com/item=246973/ensemble-fashion-of-the-fanatic-felcyclist this one
Why is this not an interface setting, what is this bootleg pserver solution?Did they just hire actual pserver devs who are used to not being able to modify the client so they do these kind of workarounds where an npc casts an aura? What the fuck?
>>580943839No. You didn't pay Blizzard, someone else did.
>>580945262>dude I heckin love vanilla! you gotta go back to your major city to do so many things!>what do you mean I have to talk to an npc in stormwind one time? WHAT IS THIS PRIVATE SERVER SLOP?
>>580945218The biggest self own argument I see when someone mentions they buy shit with gold is that they are wageslaving for fictional currency ingame. It's essentially telling people that you suck at the game and you can't comprehend making good amounts of gold by just enjoying your time in the game and being good at it.
>>580943465The whole trilogy is just a rush job to end retail story.I just wonder what happens next.
>>580943938>mentioning new players who never played a bunch of timesThe biggest hurdle in my experience to get them over, is the sub cost. >wait i cant play it f2p like x, y or z game?>i can't just buy the game?Are things I've had asked by people curious about WoW.
>>580944068They can just expand to Northrend and Pandaria.Those are on Azeroth too.
could i run retail with 8gb vram or would that shit lag like crazy
>>580945665yes
>>580945665WoW is a CPU-bound game
TICK TOCK RETAILKEKS, YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED HAHAHAHA
>>580945665i play this game on a gtx960 4gb
>>580945498I'm still coasting off Legion orderhall and selling mythic mounts in BFA gold.Makes me laugh when I see people break out the spreadsheets and have 60 crafting alts to manage, or spend their entire game time at the AH.
>>580945726I can just play both they use the same sub I don't understand where this competition comes from feels kinda forced
first time lock lvld 1 to 90 got 1800 elite set from blitz easy participation reward
>>580945705>>580945706>>580945732neat
>>580945785AH goblinning is fine if they enjoy it. Actually, anything is fine if you enjoy it, that's the point of playing a game. Yes, even gathering like a bot for hours on end. Though in gathering's case, if someone say they actually enjoy that I'll seriously doubt they are being genuine. Possible I guess, people can be crazy, but very dubious.
wow pvp is easy!!i cannot fucking wait to play forever and never see a permanently full hp healer in a battleground i am so fucking tired of evokers and mw bros holy shit
>>580945498That's probably a much rarer instance though because its very common knowledge on just how stupid easy it is to make gold in these last few expansions, just casually playing. Worst case, a round of weeklies and such in each zone, which most people would've been doing early on in an expansion anyway. Bunch of us just have shit saved up from as early as WoD because of how stupid easy it is.Anyone 'waging' for their fictional currency is also just playing the game retardedly because its practically unnecessary. And Blizzard know it, hence the gold sink shit they throw out every so often, like this incoming mount.
>>580944780I've decided to go enhancement for now and if I don't like it I'll switch to another spec.
>>580945871>got 1800 elite set from blitz easy participation rewardDon't you have to win to get to 1800?
>>580944068Honestly I would rather have dark portal opens, but kael goes horde blood elf while illidan and vashj go understandably evil instead of comic slave fuck everything evilBased on the found photographs talk today, I think they're trying to avoid that for now, but really want to not horribly fuck up every wc3 character again.Probably also why they made this new sylvanas campaign (this new hero is sick btw but he needs insane mana simping)
>>580945960yea i went 15-10 every game is either a free win or an auto loss
>>580945871NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ELITE SETS ARE SUPER DUPER HARD TO GET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>580944253It should be retroactive. Imagine the aug seethe when 99% of them get bumped out of top 1% for season one.
the whole point of elite sets is to be accessible enough to get casuals to play pvp, and thats a good thing
>>580946009So if I just go in as someone who doesn't pvp and just spam blitz a lot and sit by some flag and proceed to be an invalid if I actually have to fight something I can still get 1800?
>>580945463>here we can see a live blizzdrone in the wild, lapping up any slop and saying thank you like they always do
>>580946197>sitting by the flagCongrats you are better than 50% of my team mates. As long as sitting by the flag doesn't also include alt tabbing to do something else because you are bored.
Are there seriously people who play WoW 24/7 and nothing else?Like they play wow, then play more wow, and if they play any sort of variant of wow, it's wow classic and now wow forever?Surely there are no people like that... there are so many hobbies, and there's thousands of other videogames, why would someone play WoW 24/7 it's not even like it has infinite content or anything, surely those people by now have all mounts and shit, what more is this game giving them that it's their only hobby?
are there any specs that just straight up feel like shit to play in midnight?
>>580946482Not but I do mean if I have to fight I'll be an invalid.
>>580946513why are you posting Ian
>>580946513WoW is the endgame, newfag.
>>580946513>Are there seriously people who play WoW 24/7 and nothing else?Me
Whatever happened to Rich Campbell?
>>580946513The wow monogamer is a thing yes. When the one two punch of lawsuit + 9.1 happened a lot of them experienced their first non-wow game in decades.
>>580946197Call out when the flag is under attack and be a class that can't get rouge'd. So any pet class or paladin. Only use your trinket if the guy attacking will take the flag if you don't. You will win much more often from that alone.
>>580946787Alright cool I'll give that a shot. I just want the transmog.
>>580946641His reward for rape allegations was spending a decade with one of the biggest pornstars in the world and playing 40k all day
>>580946641he was lost to the maze...
god i wish i were my dracthyr
>>580946725And it was so bad they all came back to the GOAT Worlo
>>580946725>9.1>decades(You)
The first based blood elf player (Though really he's probably upset the alliance got high elves even in classic)
so what is the path to get to the world soul, does ulduar lead to it or something?
>>580947250You go down. Dornogol has passageways to it but filled with rubble.
>>580947040No, they came running back because they got scammed by Metzen into thinking they were gonna take shit seriously and now they are lost and confused again hoping Forever will finally be the one they do right. I know those people because I am one of them.
>>580947250Just dig a whole next to the sword
>>580947294>>580947306>>580947250but they have a path or elevator located in ulduart too? And a little room around it?
what about erp-pvp, aggrend???she's in
>>580947520hope not, if the majority of RPPvPers are creatures like that
>retards are unironically paying 30+ for a fucking belf recolor>”they need to make money somehow”So lets say I buy the expansions, I buy the sub, they are absolutely making money. And if they’re not, they should close down and die, pservers do it better anyways
>>580947592Barny is a gross troon but the scarab lord adventure series are the legit best WoW videos ever created.
>>580947592wdym?
>>580947776what forever expansion?
Do you rpers in this thread do anything rp related besides erp? I am noticing. Never hear any genuine rp stories in this thread, just how many miles of cock you avatar has taken. All the little rp profiles you post are sex related(extremely degenerate ones at that).
>>580947787>watching wow videos>troonyeah you're a tranny
>>580947909i go on big adventures and write up autistically extravagant storylines, but i keep it private between me and rp partners and never share the details
>>580947520How is this going to work if it's realmless? What's stopping a pvechad from temp flagging himself to gank a pvptard when it's safe to do so?If hardcore works like Turtle it's gonna be cancer. You can't group up with normal characters so everyone gets fucked in the open world specifically when it comes to group quests
>>580948179Not allowing grouping is actually pretty cool cuz pvp faggots are faggots by nature. If grouping is allowed they'll gang up in doomstacks running around which just fucking ruins the fun of everything and kills any organic pvp.
>>580948179These are separate gigaservers. Different playstyles don't interact with each other.
>>580947520She's got a point, part of what made the RP PVP server special in Classic was the different faction interactions.
>>580948131It's your choice, but it really does effect the perception of wow rp when all you ever hear about it is goldshire horror stories. You guys should share your adventures in the thread. Give it a test run I say. Keep it anonymous of course.
>>580948653I'm hesitant of talking about or showing anything I do because we had schizos in the thread finding us using very limited info.
>>580939725>Zerith mortis vibesTo me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzLovws2Ums
Forever is going to be devastating for retail, the devs confirmed that they will stop working on retail once tlt is done...
guise im scard what if xally kills azeruth ??
>>580937607>over a goddamn hourm8 the meta is short form stuff, if you want your channel to break out you need to make highlight clips for those along with 5-10 minute videos of longer shit when you hook people in with them
>>580949276Sure thing buddy, let's get you those meds before bed shall we?
>>580949276You mean in the same interview where they said they'll probably have to do another SL tier squish because we'll be 100 again in Midnight?
>>580949276>>580949374>i posted it again give me attention ME ME ME ME GIVE ME ATTENTION
>>580949450>SL Tier squishYeah they're going to squish the retail population to 0 just like in Shadowlands
>>580947790Man I would love a gf like this.Too bad she likely aims at 8/10 and above guys...
why are they so quiet about Forever??
>>580949474>let's never post anything ever because muh attention seekingGreat idea, you first schizo.
>"umm this is a lot like ffxiv">said the guy who only ever played ffxiv
>>580948653I don't keep a collection of screenshots but sure, here's a brief retelling of something I ran a while back. My character at the time was best friends with a necromancer dude and he really wanted to become more powerful for story reasons. So my character was like "I gotchu bro, lemme see what I can do" and I had my character do some research to help him out. I wrote up a second-gen DK with a big ass backstory and a evil asshole personality and had my character track him down to Stratholme with some Argent help. My character rounded up necromancer bro and some misfit friends and we infiltrated Stratholme as four against thousands. Everyone was dropping very long, descriptive emotes as I threw wave after wave of undead swarms at us and right as my character was getting his guts ripped out by ghouls necromancer bro 1v1'd the dk in a climactic anime fight, stole his talking vampiric runeblade (i was inspired by the talking sword from wakfu) and brought back all the cultists we killed to life and turned the entire tide of battle, leading an epic charge into the fray while his new sword shit talked him the entire time
>>580949736>random vagueposting about other game
>>580949671Tali saw Asmon's gf and realized he settled for a tranny who's cucking him (child definitely isn't his) so he went full Watts.
>>580949885She settled for him doeEvitel is beautiful and I would let her cuck me for sure.
>>580944068>Portal opens but Kael isnt turned into a mana zombie and is actually trying to save his peopleI would shit myself if they actually fixed the timeline in the fucking meme spinoff
>>580949747Thanks for sharing anon.So does someone take the role of dungeon master? Do you roll dice or have character sheets? Dungeons and dragons was my only experience with rp.
>>580949885I'm still surprised the child came out white.A guy like Tali, you think he'd only settle for the darkest tribal from the depths of the Congo.
>>580949983I wouldn't mind the portal opening if we didn't go through ourselves. Like if Illidan, Vash and Kael came through to beg us for help with KJ and we got another Hyjal I'd be okay with that. Although KJ's power level might be too much for classic, maybe he should send some lackey.
>>580946513I'm the sort of person that will sit there and say how much I enjoy a game, and then only play it for a few hours in and let it sit for god knows how long to probably never finish it.I don't know why I do this. I haven't done it with WoW because I guess there's no endgame so its easier to return to, but I do have a break here and there.
>>580950069It just depends on who you roleplay with, but my style is to usually DM things while roleplaying my character at the same time. I don't like to use character sheets personally. I alternate my events between completely freeform and rolling
blizzcon:>wow classic+ coming soon>diablo 5 announced>new starcraft game announced>new warcraft RTS campaign released >.... and a new temporary meme game mode for retail WoW
>>580946513I don't get people like this.How can you play WoW 24/7 for over 20 years? Like what do you do in game, keep making alts after you finish up your latest character or what?I get that you sometimes have these seasons when you just want to play some certain game for weeks but it stops at some point.
retail got humiliated at blizzcon, we literally paid for forever and got jackshit in exchange
>>580950443
>>580946513>webmWhy are americans like this?
Did you support Forever servers with WoW tokens /wowg/
>>580950443Forever is getting funded with blue pay'dorei elves though.
>>580950735No, I'll do it later.Or do it by proxy when my pre-established vast wealth gets me the mount and for some reason makes people jealous enough to want to get it as well.
>>580947776Firstly, no, they're not "making money", they're "covering cost" with all this bullshit. AAA games are expensive nightmares.Secondly, yes, they should die. Whenever an animal in the wild grows too big to sustain itself and eats up all the resources, it's a threat to the rest of the ecosystem unless the ecosystem somehow benefits from their poop. Why should it be any different for game development studios and publisher companies?Thirdly, you're a faggot.
Did people really wanna play these hideous freaks back when TBC was released to the point that the Draenei being made pretty caused so much outraged?Nobody plays ugly raceslike Kul'tiran but i'm supposed to believe people would have mained literal walking horrors with tentacles?
>midnight narrative is a wet noodle>the last titan teaser is literally big robot with the guns>no warcraft animated series
>>580950964>what does he domake new colors of elves apparently
>>580950591Is this Blizzard's official position?
>>580950949These didn't even exist before, they were added along with nu-draenei as a stage between them and pic related.
>>580946513I play other things, but I also hate a lot of other things as well. Which is hilarious and sad when what I play consistently is WoW.What other shit are we playing if monoing WoW is so bad?
>>580950964>the last titan teaser is literally big robot with the gunsretoilets unironically love skibidi toilet
>>580950964>>580951012He brought his sketch book where they dug up the sky elves from.
>>580951059Probably, but I'm applying it to majority of retail players as well.Shitposting doomers aside, the people actually playing don't seem to care that much.
>>580951170the tlt robot for comparison, it looks exactly the same
>>580950964BUT THE JAILER HAS ALL OF THE SIGILSI MEAN UHHH XALATATH HAS ALL OF THE ALTERNATE TIMELINE GALAKROND SOUPED UP DRAGON SOUL (AND HAS HAD IT FOR 4 YEARS CANONICALLY BUT NOT ACCOMPLISHED SHIT BUT TURN SOME PISS PURPLE)
How are you preparing for the end-of-service announcement for the retail WoW and are you planning to switch to the Forever afterwards
>>580950376I think I would prefer structure over free-form. Maybe if that wow dnd rulebook releases I would try it. I just would have no clue how powerful my character should be in combat without rules. There would have to be a dm. It would be anarchy without someone having the final say on what's happening.How can you keep people honest without a character sheet? Shit people try to sneak bullshit in even with a charcter sheet the dm can look at whenever he wants.
>>580950403It's their digital 3rd space, anon.WoW was the first social media on the global scale we know of today. It gave a lot of "people with anxiety" the chance to literally just hang out in Comfwind or Comfgrimmar, like a sane person would at a pub or the park.The population shrunk and the need for WoW as a social media went away with it, but to a minority of damaged souls, it never changed from being their hangout; It was just that the hangout happened to have less people in it.They play quests and then fume because all the people who actually want a guild or group up actually do so for a bigger purpose, like raiding or mazing, which these people can't do because of their "performance anxiety" or genuinely they're too dumb for it, so they're still alone.They still come back to sit in their memories and the safety of the comfort of logging into WoW, and never play anythign else, because other games are new and frightening and overstimulating. Fear of experiences keeps them not just mazed, but chained.
>>580936992WTF Iove Draenei even more now!?
>>580951170Aren't they making a skibidi toilet movie? It's goofy as fuck, but I must confess that is impressive. Well that must have been years ago I heard that and no movie ever came out.
>>580951381By trying out Forever beta in few days.
>Retail timeline is being de-canonized and replaced with WoW Forever>Draenei won't exist anymore.>Worgen won't exist anymore.>Pandaren won't exist anymore.>Dracthyr won't exist anymore.>Vulpera won't exist anymore.>But Tauren still exist for some pathetic fucking reason.I guess I shouldn't expect anything more from the company that literally invented furries. No matter what they do they can't help but fuck everything up.
>>580950919I cast “no u”
>>580941203just think how much Breastmilk can Ion buy with that money..
considering blizzard's trend of adding shit no one asked for, i predict that the last titan will add a new class that no one asked for. i think we'll get something like a cloth-wearing oracle that channel's the azeroth world soul's girlboss power
That reminds me, why are we not fighting resurrected galakrond like in hearthstone and instead are bothering with MORE troll bullshit?
>>580951775It's going to be a reskin of an existing class like those faggot-ass Void Demon Hunters.
Someone catch me up on the lore, why isn't Tyrande the current NE rep?
>>580951721Worgen were already in vanilla wow as enemies.The existence of pandaren is also confirmed with the Chens keg quest in barrens.
https://jigex.com/JKXbRD
>>580951775A more esoteric caster would be a dream for me. Something more witch-like.Trolls and their loa are more akin to witches than any other class in the game, in terms of how they cast. So something that uses spirit and death energy, with maybe a new type of demon that involves itself with other types of magic and a little fel. So maybe just a satyr, honestly.
>>580951909Blizzard deliberately wrote the playable Worgen as unable to breed so that they would go extinct in a single generation.Worgen aren't canon and anyone who likes them does not deserve human rights.
>>580951125>What other shit are we playing if monoing WoW is so bad?I've been playing Endless Space 2 on the side recently...I'm a smooth brain at it and have no concept of how a turn I save and leave on will still be there exactly as is when I return to it later.
>>580951897Tyrande and Malfurion retired in Dragonflight and their dyke adoptive daughter Shandris along with edgy dyke Maiev are now the leaders of the night elves.
>>580952041Maiev is for Illidan only
>>580951721furries were never canon in wow, they were just added because of early 2000s deviantart degeneracy and monkeys getting a hardon while they're staring at dogs.
>>580951721They still exist we just have to make contact with them again. Worgen could potentially never get infected. The Gilnean ones anyways. If the cataclysm never happens the worgen might not ever break into Gilneas. Might get... elf worgen *vomits*. Please no more elves! Please!
>>580951409I agree with you mostly. For most situations, like roleplaying with a large group or with people you hardly know, freeform is a nightmare that enables certain types of people to try to hog the spotlight and be the main character. It only works for me when I do it with a small group of people that I know won't fuck it up.
>>580939528Play shaman then
>>580951909>>580951961>>580952146>>580952151What about Worgen players that aren't gooners or porn addicts and just think werewolves are cool?
>>580951775Just because TWW, Mid, TLT where all supposed to be 1 xpac I'm really not expecting anything major getting added like a new class. It's going to be TWW 3.0 and we'll have to wait for the xpac after TLT to start speculating on actual cool new additions.
>>580952372No such thing. No sane individual looks at a human/wolf hybrid and thinks "zomg that's so cool fr fr he's literally me no cap."Only perverse, morally evil individuals who molest children and rape animals think Worgen are "cool."
>>580950443forever is gonna get some grok quests while retail gets all the (low) effort
how do you actually eat a gem as an earthen now to change your racial bonus? it looks like they made the eat gems button a passive, but i cant click on a gem to consume it.
>>580952506Have you tried biting it from the thin side first?
>>580942453I've only ever mained male dwarves and male orcs.
>>580952478FVKING TRVTH NVKE
helms make you bald lmao
>DF:Furry races>TWW: Titan spawned races (Dwarves and Humans) and gobbos>Midnig: Harandar descendant races (Elves and trolls)Will TLT be all about Gnomes?
>>580951721>He thinks they won't eventually sell race packs after all the marks gladly bought up Blue ElvesGet a load of this guy.
Pandaren were a marketing ploy to cash in on the popularity of Kung Fu Panda.Tauren are an Easter Egg reference to the Secret Cow Level in Diablo II.Vulpera were a marketing ploy to make the game more accessible to kids.Dracthyr & Worgen are perverted abominations dreamed from the diseased minds of the most vile and repulsive people known to Mankind.Do NOT get them mixed up.
>reused zaralek/ringing deeps/zm assetsit's not looking good for tlt...
>>580950949>>580951119Wouldn't mind of they ever bring back Draenei as a race in Forever after opening the Dark Portal - but I do hope only these two Draenei models will exist, Broken being the playable option.
>>580953170>bring back generic furry race as a race in ForeverHmmm... nyoo~
WoW Forever will be the most perfect version of the game and it will not have digusting furries in it.
is this just one schizo rambling the entire time? jesus fucking christ
>>580953170Someone brought the idea of playable satyr the other day - that would imo be brilliant, and they could be available to both factions as well.Ngl I imagined some more daring designs, such as third faction even, that such races could be a part of, but alas.
>>580953537Furries are proof that White people don't deserve human rights.
So it's safe to say the "next 20 years of WoW" was meant to be Forever.
Ew is Velen shipping Faerin X Anduin too?
>>580953736World of Warcraft of any kind will not be a live service past 2030.
hats make you bald lmao
>>580953736ObviouslySee the game breaking bugs and errors with TWW and Midnight20+ year old game can't handle new updates anymore so that's why we are going to get WoW Forever for next 20 years
i miss when the leader of the alliance was a hot masculine big sweaty guy (varian wrynn) and i also miss when the leader of the horde was a hot masculine big sweaty guy (thrall)
Everything is going according to the plan.
>>580953898You made that sound pretty gay... but you are right. Those two were proper faction leaders that people respected and adored. Cuck thrall and Anduin suck.
>>580953898>>580954087Blame the furries. It's their fault after all.
>>580954128>furjeet meltieGo back to your /trash/ thread
>>580954303DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE COMPARE ME TO THOSE SUBHUMAN CHILDFUCKER PIECES OF SHIT I WILL FIND YOU AND UNPLUG YOUR ASSHOLE BITCH
>>580954303lol the furfags got kicked off /trash/ for posting AI porn
>>580954128No. Furrys don't like these fucked up and ruined characters either. I blame the elves. You have 50% of the players playing pansy knife eared foids, you get a girly story with sensitive impotent men.
>>580953756Velen is a clueless volcel he'd ship anyone with anyone
>>580954483>kicked off /trash/jesus how low can a person go
>>580954682The resident /trash/furs have a strict no-AI policy AND they almost exclusively post furry child porn.They were NOT happy to have a bunch of people show up that enjoyed sex with strictly adult characters.
>>580954753That is hilarious, but also I thought they went to make their own shitty Furry-MMO thread for furry races of all games.Did they let the furries already situated there hijack them?
>>580954810Yeah, /wowfg/ was invaded and then abandoned after both the /mmog/ pedos AND some /wowg/ trolls who were upset they made their own thread spammed it to death.
>>580954881Curious. We got invaded by some Forevertrannies yesterday as well.
>>580954753This doesn't sound believable. They have a dedicated furry ai thread. It's just not wow or vidya exclusive.
>>580954945It's all related. There is a group who is playing a silly little game at our expense. Why? I don't know. It's best to just ignore them so they can't complete their autistic little mission. They aren't playing spergo vs baldo anymore. I am sure you all noticed.
>tww is bazinga california vanilla>midnight is baziga california tbc>tlt is bazinga california wotlknow forever looks to me like some kind of catai can't stop noticing
>>580954881Getting cucked and bullied by /trash/ of all boards without being into it is certainly a new low on my unit of measurement.
>>580955153How do you figure TWW correlates to vanilla?
>>580954753but furry characters are not real, same as anime stuff. Only idiots compare it to real kids
>>580952372its a cope by closeted furfags
>>580955372What about dwarf players?
>>580954753>The resident /trash/furs have a strict no-AI policy AND they almost exclusively post furry child porn.Extremely based
>SoD specs leaked for Forever
>>580954881>spammed it to deathmore like ignored it to death lmao
>>580953736YesIf you've listened to what Hag and Ion said the mentioned that TLT is basically the last page of retail WoW. They are gonna put retail onto maintenance mode and put everything into seasonal form of Forever
>>580955412The best players. They embody the true spirit of wow more then any other.
>>580955839Do you retards actually believe tehy would put their milking cow aside just like that, or do you just type out random shit like some shitty llm?
>>580939528>Complains about not enough glowing buttons>plays a healer Try playing something where things actually happen
>>580956179They know Retail is dead.Retail is losing money to maintain and not making them money anymore. And everyone hates is due to all the furries.
>>580956390Yeah, the version of the game that has cash shop and tokens, the one where "anything goes".What a deluded retard you are.
i am so fucking dogshit
>>580956639Just play an evoker.
>>580956390Finish up retail with The Last Titan and pull the plugThe Last Titan is designed name for end of service announcement, no king rules forever.
What's the difference between classic phase 2, SOD phase 2, SOM phase 2, etc.? What phase is the regular classic era on? The wowhead comments and pages are confusing as hell and don't explain shit
>>580956390Retail ain't dying yet, but if forever really takes off then retail will suffer from becoming less of a focus. That will leave retail players that have no interest in swapping to forever disenfranchised. I got a bad feeling about this. They have done nothing yet that I have seen to encourage playing both. It's just too much to play two mmos in my opinion. If you aren't a neet that is. How can you fit in the time to get properly geared for two different raids? Then you only really have the weekend to schedule a raid.
>>580942868you're gay
i will delve forever
Ngl, I preferred it when we were competing against FFXIV. Retail being used, mocked, and then discarded by Blizzard in favor of Forever kinda hurts. I feel like I’ve wasted so many years and so much feedback on this game for absolutely nothing.They’re just going to use Retail as a cash cow to squeeze money from, only to invest it all into Forever. You can already see how much effort went into this new version of WoW, while Retail has been stuck with buggy, formulaic content for years now.I don't really feel like restarting in Forever. If I’m going to make a fresh start, I’d rather do it somewhere else with a brand-new game. I really hope Evercold is good.
>>580956839Need me a onions quirky chungus reddit'dorei GF...
This has to be the ugliest scar any character in any videogame ever has ever had. Literlaly just a weird ugly red line under the eye, not even properly in a line down like Geralt of Rivia, just some skewed weird red line. It's so fucking short even that it makes you wonder how is a huge veteran orc warrior so incompetent.
Forever is giving me extreme "Fanfiction" vibes, man. The whole premise isn't even "I want to play a game like back then", because that's Classic already. It's the wet dream of manchildren who want to turn back time and start over in 2004 with the knowledge of today.The past is the past, the story is written as it is. Move on and do your own thing.
>classic+ gets new rendering tech>retoilet gets nothingGRIM
>>580957137>HotS revived & add new hero after years>retoilet gets nothingLMAO
>>580956929You are right to be concerned. Anyone who isn't is too lost in the sauce to see what's happening. Forever isn't just some Classic Side-Project they are literally resurrecting classic WoW and developing it fully moving forward. In no world do these two vastly different experiences co-exist long term without one of them suffering.
>>580957076>Give Sylvie a cut in her face during a fully rendered cinematic cutscene that cost probably at least a fifth of the BFA budget for the year>It's barely notable in the cutscene itself as to preserve her dark mysterious beauty not to be damaged too much, but rather accentuated>Ingame scare is just one more of her weird smudged mascara/visible veins around the eyes>It's even less notable so people don't think she's disfigured even though that would score major points with the diversity chart at the timeBlizzard is incompetent, straight up.Even when they committed fully under Bobby and the USAID money to head-on pandering for maximum sheepbux, they just couldn't help themselves from keeping a conventionally attractive character from being fapbait.
>>580956994Right I have no desire to start over in wow. If I play another mmo it would be another game. I know nu blizzard sucks. Only thing that keeps me playing is the history I have with retail. Fuck that up and there goes my last vestige of loyalty to wow.
I refuse to believe that classicfags will stick around for more than 6/12 months before dropping forever and i think retail players are more interested in retail being good and fun
Did the thread counter ack himself?Why do we no longer get reports of who long have threads been up?
>>580957076Well yeah Anon, she's Undead. She's not gonna heal over that scar to make it look better.
>>580958036It's Blizzcon week, his self created purpose was just telling us how slow the threads are, but unfortunately for him they're moving very fast.
>>580958125Yes Anon, I also saw that in the forever thread.Have fun sharing a server with that.
>>580958125
>>580958125>soon in your Forever™
>>580957997Forever is going to be a clown fiesta the same way classic servers are right now. Retail isn't going anywhere.
>>580958125>alliance>american>always having some sort of mental diseaseevery time
>>580958345I feel this way because all the most annoying streamers and their minions are gonna flood Forever and ruin any feel Blizzard may be dreaming about building there.
>>580958125Average "I prefer to see female ass while I play" fan.
>>580957997>in retail being good and funWhen is that happening?>OMG, a new rotation of dungeons (that we've done before for months) for M+ to spam for months!!>Woah! A new raid tuned for the best players in the world to grind for 3 weeks straight while no one else can do it! so fun!!
>>580958690Because having even less variance to do in the endgame in classic is so much better.
>>580958480I think the megaserver thing is going to utterly destroy any of Blizzard's delusions of "community".
>>580937345Trollanon tummy...
>>580939725where did these pictures come from?
>>580958798>You have to have 70 mechanics in order for a boss to be fun ahhh!>even less variance to do in the endgameHow are those 4 different modes of the same raid doing?Retail "variance" is just>damage taken scaled up
>>580959163Yeah.And Classic variance is "Stand here and spam #2."Works in both dungeons and raids, accessible for everyone!
>>580959124nigger https://youtu.be/vgT5KpTPcQc&t=858
>>580959321I'm so fucking tired of caves and underneath the earth shit.
>>580959319>MMORPG is about the world>Plays a MMORPG and is mad that it's not about raids being tuned for less than 1% of the playerbase.
Enjoy your dead game, retoilets.
>>580959484They'd make fantastic darkrangers. Any plague canister catapults ITT?
>>580959321you can tell that this was supposed to be the og ending of tww and everything that came in between undermine and patch 12.2 is just filler garbage.
>>580959481Oh yeah, a world you can also spam #2 in over and over again. I sure remember doing that 20 years ago when it was new, can't wait to do it again for the fourth time.We get it dude, you hate the maze. You're free. Enjoy the freedom. Don't come swinging your dick acting like there's a fuckton more substance in Classics gameplay though, you look like a retard.
>>580938143I had a look at the talents and there's nothing like that, where are you getting this?
>>580940506One of my favorite zones. Low-key Cata new zones were awesome. Except Uldum perhaps
In classic I made the mistake and rolled a warlock. I was bored mindless by the time I hit 60. After I killed onyxia I uninstalled.Think I'm gonna go with rogue this time.
>>580960382You play warlock to kill people in the open worldYou're the rogue of casters.Raiding is just to get more powerful to camp people better.
>>580960382all classes are boring as fuck in vanilla rogue has 2 buttons and 50 buffs you never use3 buttons if you fall for the hemo meme
>>580960382I'd suggest going feral but it's gonna be garbage in Forever. No formweaving or powershifting, just shitty shred spam.
>>580960896My main class since Wotlk (DK) is not available, what a conundrum.I'd go paladin but literally everyone is going to be a paladin kek, especially undead.
https://vocaroo.com/1eneT9yeZuuSNew datamined voiceline for 12.2.5, spoilers beware
>>580961002Right. Platekeks won't be having a good time
>>580961068She says this to worgen players during the secret cutscene.
>after forever's major success, we have decided to delete all of the furry races from retail
>>580961068>says this with her feet on your penisThere would be no coom left, I would be empty for the rest of my days
post good
>>580961002I was thinking about warrior or maybe druid, dk isn't available i don't feel like playing rogue
World of Warcraft
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Reins_of_Titan-Reforged_InvincibleTHERE IT IS DOOD, 100K BRONZE IN WRATHBABBY REMIX
I will be playing druid and be getting my cock milked in every form every day.
>>580961234>remove furry races>druid class still exists¿?
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/skyborne-druid-forms-in-wow-forever-382861NELFIE SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>580961410I'd go dwarf hunter too, but huntards are huntards. So I think I'm going to have to decide between rolling another lock (maybe it'll be different this time!) or a rogue. Leaning on rogue, though, it has the adventurer feel and it fits the theme of Forever.
>>580961610Nelfies still mog those freaks tbqh
>>580961454Wtf how do you know my name?
>>580961610Those are ugly as shit honestly
when do we get cloaks like this? It is 2026 and blizz is still making same garbage looking cloaks since vanilla, they can't even make decent hair when wearing helms issues that other mmos solved 10 years ago
Valeera's braindead AI is proof the entier game is now just prompted by jeets.
>>580961856Follower raid bots jump off of cliffs mid boss and not do carrying mechanics.
excited to transmog as plate for my warlock and rp as some necro dude
What character is your delvin melvin companion in woke titan?
>Midnight Deep Dive>240K views>Forever Deep Dive>270K viewsIt's so over, retailbros...
>>580961996TLT will be discussed next year, they only talked about the final Mid patch.
>>580962041So the 240k retail players watched both and the 30k classic players watched only forever!
BIMBODOREI SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>580961996Lightforged Xally (she makes foot jokes).
>everyone will just wear plate now regardless of class>99% of players in judgement/judgement-adjacent setsMaybe I will switch to Forever after all.
>>580963124>99% of players in judgement/judgement-adjacent setsDoubt it. I don't see that many paladins even using it these days.
>>580960896what is powershifting? i saw a guide mention that but it didnt explain what it was or how it worked
I didn't watch the rest of the panel, did they talk about the lore (serious) behind the Skyborne? >Their hidden islands, where is it on the map? >How the other races discovered them?>Why are some of them choosing to join the evil murder rapist unholy faction?
>>580962041midnight is essentially in "no spoilers mode" until the end of the x-pac because presumably some huge events are going to go down at the end of the xpac to the point where they cant even talk about the next one without spoiling it
>>580963718transofming out and in cat form grants more energy than waiting for it to regen naturally especially with the helmet but its mana intensive as fuck
>>580963831I think I already know the " huge event", it's Azeroth leaving Azeroth. Ion said it, in the Last Titan, we are going "to save her one last time". The question is, what happen when a Titan is born, for the planet and for the living beings on it?
cant believe blizzcon is bigly over...
>>580961610>bear form>it's an owlDo Forevercucks really like this?
>/wowfg/ is literally ff14 general but WoWAnime posters, easy memes, frog and wojak posters... I think we are safe, the people going to play WoWforever will be the ff14/Jrpg people
>>580963764Dreamu BTFO and seething (whoever that gaywad even is lmao)
>>580964152we already have owlbears, owlcats and moonkin for druids, this isnt a shock
>>580963764>troonsky
>>580964152Travel form is a bird that can't fly. All this blue Elves stuff is really weird and somewhat rushed.
>>580963813They did, yeah. It's in the last panel with Aggrend, think it was called "found photographs" or something like that.
>>580963764>dreams up a fake scenario>posts it on twitter as if it actually happened>people like and retweet holy schizophrenia what the fuck
>>580964225Maybe it was /wowg/ that was shit all along...
>>580963852okay, thanks. that sounds annoying, i think i'm gonna just eat the dps loss and not do that
>>580951721>He actually thinks Blizzard isn't going to re-add existing races and classes in future updates.Imagine you're a product manager trying to keep a live-service game fed with content while minimizing dev time. Reintroducing existing races is basically free money compared to building entirely new ones from scratch.Worgen already have SD and HD models, animations, customization assets, etc. Most of the expensive work is already done. They'd mainly need to adapt them to Forever's systems and rebalance/rework the racials.Considering a dev at BlizzCon said the next races would be faction-exclusive, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we end up getting Worgen and Goblins.
>>580964898Forever is getting Gilneas for sure but I wouldn't be so sure about worgen being playable. Same with gobs, them joining the Horde was a bit of a stretch in the first place.
>>580964898They (devs and players) want new stuff. WoWforever gonna have all our dream races (Ogres, Centaurs, blue/yeallow/black Orcs/Trolls/Gnomes/Dwarves)
>>580964152
>>580965186This isn't me implying we're never gonna get new stuff. I'm sure we'll get plenty of new races/classes eventually. But best believe Blizzard is gonna sprinkle in old stuff too, especially when a lot of the work is already done and it gives them an easy content drop.
>perfect comfy classic+ with slightly upgraded graphics to enjoy alongside retail>ruined by way too many elves, just like retail they just can't help themselves, can they?
>>580964898>Worgen>negroWs in ForeverHmmm... nyoo~
>>580965527One of the first things they mentioned when talking about future content was Gilneas, sis...
I haven't played WoW since Draenor. Would I even recognise it now? I'm amazed people still play it.
Have we collectively decided on an abbreviation for The World of Warcraft: Forever?Personally I'm calling it: Tworloforlo
>>580961306Take those shoes off, slut>>580961996Hopefully a slutmogged female gnome
>>580965649>furries in ForeverLet me check again... hmm... nyoo~
WorfoWoweverForloRetail 2
>>580965663Silvermoon is the main hub city, you'd be fine. Just gotta catch up on tons of lore since Legion...
>>580965807Druids and tauren are right there sis.
>>580965349I imagine they'll make a decision on this, but the Worgens? I don't think so. They never really liked them in Retail or Classic: no content featuring them after Cataclysm, no stories, no major characters. It's not like the Draenei, a truly core race in WoW, whom they absolutely loved.
>>580965740WooF
man i wish we could see these class presentations like paladin one, just to see how bums at blizzard see classes, gotta wait for beta to see how rogue, druid and warrior look
>>580965663Honestly not a bad point to stopAs soon as you catch up, you'll be disgusted by what it is now
>>580965740OSWC
>>580965829My pick: wowever or worlever
RETAIL IS DOOMED
>>580965403elfslop game
>>580966074This is EVERYTHING (and that's a good thing, here's why)
>>580965992I thought Draenor was shit, my peak WoW years were during Wotlk and I wish I could back and re-live them, so every now and then I think 'I wonder what it's like now'.
>>580965403The $30 fee isn't enough, there should be an extended subscription that includes elves, you should be paying $5 a month every month in addition to your regular sub if you want access to any type of elf.This should be in both retail and forever.
The new elf race is lame. Also, why are they allowed to be black? I thought they're blue and that's it? What is this shit, they're not drows are they?
>>580966074>all the asmondrones quitting retailthe game is fucking saved holy shit
>>580965909I don't think "Blizzard never liked Worgen" is really evidenced by anything. Them not getting as much story focus as Humans/Orcs/Elves doesn't mean Blizzard wouldn't reuse them. From a product standpoint they're almost ideal: recognizable race, existing fanbase, furries who will absolutely open their wallets for anthro content, most of the art/animation work already exists, and they pair neatly with Goblins for a faction-exclusive drop.
>>580966039thoughever
TALK ABOUT WORLDSOUL SAGA
>>580966205>I thought Draenor was shitIt was mostly panned because it lacked endgame content and focused too much on story and setting, I bet that people would be seeing it through a new eye today now that retail is sinkingI had a decent time on release and will never forget the Arakk music personally
>>580937828i don't think there was much to care about, just a tease of things we already knew. unless blizzard puts something out soon we're probably going to get months of "please stay on the plantation with me" types of people "caring" about retail. already started with people trying to decanonize forever as if it's just some random pserver from nobody.
>>580966381UhhhhBig robot shooting near Wyrmrest, pew pew! Looks like Ulduar got up, stompy stomp, watch out!
>>580966426I hated garrisons, Star Trek Online did a much better job of them.
>>580966381Forever is about to flush the retoilet saga and retoilets will pay for it.
>>580965909There was an entire zone in legion where one of the main quest lines was the Gilneas brigade hunting down and raping the forsaken to stop Sylvanus.
remember what they took from you
>got accused of being a furry todayBe honest, does this scream furry to you? It's funny because I'm actually not, I just thought the mog looked comfy
>>580966349just like all the mazies quit for fellowship
>I'm actually not
>>580966549wowever will never have Pandaren because they will never have Cataclysm because they will never have Metzen
>>580966685HOLY
>>580966735Is that a cat for ants?
>>580966554Unironically kino transmog, you need fat orange boots
>>580966798lmao fake
a new bell ah bell oreo lawn
>>580966349Finally, I was tired of those homophobes and their hatred towards to LGBQT+ content which I like
>>580966554It screams silly chungus. A non-serious player that's not an autistic furry.
>>580966381I will play arcane mage today to see if it's bussin on low ilvl
>>580967028It is. Arcane explo is busted with low level dungeon scaling.
>>580966554there are just way too many furries playing this game, there's nothing you can do, you just have to accept that everyone will think you're a furryI play fempanda and the same happens to me all the time, my entire guild thinks I'm a furry erper because I play on AD
>>580966381Ulduar was Warcraft Metroplex and got up for a walk and to stretch it's legs.
>>580961306ayo thats my girl again
>>580966381I hope xalath beat dikron in ulduar or smthI also hope they have this shit wrapped up by 2027 so the other timeline can start to progress
>>580967192>dikronStop thinking about dicks
>>580967182TAKE THOSE SHOES OFF
>>580945262Making it an interface setting would be dumb
>Forever getting megaservers>We get shitI'm mad.
>>580967556>forever gets mentally ill classic players>we get nothingwe won
>>580966381There is nothing to talk about, BLIZZARD didn't even want to talk about it at blizzcon, it's actually dead
Forever chads can't stop winning. I just hope nelf wifey joins the winning side.
>>580967612>we got nothing because we have nothing
Reminder Xal'atath is going to merge with the worldsoul, but the worldsoul is going to influence her to be good now so she can become the new goddess of Azeroth. Then we fight and kill the titans with the help of the void lords and the new Xal'lune
>>580967823dont worry youll be back on retail when theres a content draught on forever
>My based Horse died>But you will live again thanks to Death magic>By the way, you serve the Light now>Your first mission is to kill the other Light worshippersIt's so retarded
>>580947787Gbay mogs
>>580967923basically what happened to UD priestsim over it
>>580967556forever doesnt risk bricking peoples guild vaults, losing transmog libraries or hell even losing all of your characters if they try to fuck with the servers. imagine the absolute nuclear apocalypse malding that would come about if blizz lost the serverside data on who had sparkle kitty and werebear unlocked
>>580967826Be cool if Xal starts to successfully merge with her, but she only lets Xal start the process and instead reverses it, eradicating Xal and birthing herself.
>>580967826Ackshully Alleria is gonna pull her out and get sucked in herself, turning into a cringesoul.
>>580967637He's already spamming slop in their thread just like he did for epoch and ascension.
>>580967301no. She is not to be used in such ways. Shoo
>>580967556Imagine the absolute nightmare trying to uncouple all the systems from realms and the problem of names. Fuck even trying that.
>>580967556I don't want megaservers for retail.I want my goonguard left to itself.
People who are mindraped by Retail are the funniest to listen to. One of my friends went on a 30 minute rant about forever saying "NUH THE CLASSIC SD MODELS ARENT DA SAME RETAIL ITS RETAILLLLLLLLL" in full earnest, and then saying how it should just be turtle WoW
>>580969018Did he actually play retail recently? I feel like the people saying "muh retail" have no idea of what it is currently
>>580958493>Being attracted to women makes you gay
>>580969324I'm a current player and I really don't know either. The quest design alone separates them by miles But this was also someone who said "There are some retail DPS rotations easier than classic ones atm due to bursts and CDs"
>>580969429Um didn't you know? you should only be looking at other people's asses. If you're looking at your own its because you want to look like that irl.
Is there like a site that tracks when specific world quests are up? I'm just missing some "Vulpera for a Day" world quest for the BFA meta, but it's never up and I'm tired of checking ever like 12 hours.
I know I'm super late but where do the forsaken (un)live now? With undercity being destroyed and all that.
>>580939045>male human rogue>blackened defias set with bandanayep it's gamin time>>580940506I 'member
>>580936992Holy fucking shit there's some complete shitters in the ~14 range today. Zero knowledge of dungeons and pulls, what the fuck is going on
>talk to a normie friend at dinner>he's excited for Forever>doesn't give a single shit about the blueberries, neither positive or negativeDamm. I wish that was me.
THREAD THEMEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtF_rqp5EDY
>>580970037That's me.
>>580961306That is one sexy gnome
>>580970037Your friends name? Albert Einstein.
>>580968238Nope, it's people from here. The queen hasn't appeared since Blizzcon.
>>580969324retail is Ion's Frankenstein currently
this shit is kinomatica
>>580966349No one that isn't trans plays retail anymore. They have one more expansion to salvage something out of their gay saga.
will forever finally have us cleanse the plague lands?
I think Talebound looks fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKBGQBUAYhUTHIS KILLS THE RETOILET
>>580971357it'll take Forever
Will I be able to transfer my tmogs, mounts and cheevos to Forever after The Last Titan and retail closing?
>>580971486>invite to asmon layer
>>580971809Nope.
>>580958036I stopped at the end of August and made a giant graph about it. I ended it with a hope that BlizzCon returns us to our usual thread speeds. Plus people were getting more and more mad about it.I think a lot of people misunderstand my counting for doomin but I just like data
>megaserver means literally every streamer and their cretin followers will be all over the place
>Ion on the future of Midnight and the Worldsoul Saga: "It's actually so fucking over....">"We gave the players 8 new dungeons... and they've seemingly rejected them", he whimpered>Tears began to form in his eyes>The interview had to be stopped for a moment so that he could regain some composure>"4 new zones... 1 new raid...", he repeated to himself softly, whilst rocking back and forth
>>580944703stormbringer enhancement
>>580950735Yes. I was saving those for Last Titan, but I have a plan to make more.
>>580972489set the game to mexican hermano they wont be able to touch you there
>>580972609Why he make mythic plus and raids so hard dude? He took away the addons and kept the difficulty high?
Any vanilla warrior and rogue enjoyers to form my opinion? haha..
>>580973183vanilla has nothing to do with forever but warrior was the only class allowed to do dps in vanilla and rogue was a sunderbot also the guy in charge of forever loves ret so it will be the op class for sure.
>>580973129e-sports o algo
>>580973129for race to world first and MDI of course
>>580973302so there's a chance you have to choose between warrior and paladin
>>580973129>>580973425>>580973452What the fuck are you talking about? mythic plus is completely free this season, I already got 3400 because the dungeons are a joke. The raids are aids because of the vault and coins changes tho.
>>580950735Colors on the saddle totally clash with the rest of the stupid horse cock. What an absolute shit mess of a mount
Do you guys think I'll make it to 7m in time?
>>580969882I think Calia Menethil used her cocksucking powers to succ the plague out of the city or some anti-plague serum was made, one of those two I remember all the way back in SL
>>580973846>6 milly before woke titan release in august 2027Tough man, good luck I guess
>>580969882Back in shadowlands the forsaken cleanses undercity and they live there.>>580973853Nah it was Belmont, Anya, Lilian and the apothecary lord from vanilla she was there but she did nothing.
>>580973846Sure just buy a few more tokens goy
I haven't read any of these threads but I guarantee theres gotta be FAGGOTS seething about Skyborne LOLI hate classic fags that expected high elves or ogres. I would much rather Blizzard create something new and go the way of OSRS rather than tread all the same ground.Classic MAGGOTS and all these other niggers will never be satisfied. Fuck them, they're subhuman losers.https://youtu.be/-CEtTIaLI_EEven this broad is being a whinebag.What's my reaction you might be asking?Im excited because I am an optimistic person who optimism is warranted. This is genuinely cool and the only way they could make it better is... 1. if they launched with a 40 man raid / announced plans of one.2. Made Skyborne Alliance and added Ogres to Horde3. Talked about how they will poll every update similar to OSRS (the wow community doesn't know what they want so I dont trust this)
>>580972609WHERE WAS METZEN BTW?
I don't want to play paladin only because everyone will play pink crusader
no one cares
>>580974027Working on Forever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89KfZyZgukDEAD GAME
>>580950949nobody wants to actually play Broken. People who wished to get Broken were just mad because they didn't like the others playing hot space goats.At least that's my personal theory because I don't remember anyone ever just saying "I wish they added Broken" It's always "this is what Draeneis should have looked like"
>retail minusWe won
>>580974018>This is genuinely coolThat's why they are mad lol this tranny shit is made for retail faggots like yourself its not classic+ its retail lite.
>>580974310Nixxiom is such a grifter these days, it really is sad how low he's fallen.
>>580974370Retail minus faggots trannies and furries. We won alright hehe. Minus mythic raids and maze also hehe. Can't stop Winn ng here
>>580974370Is that what is should be called?I was thinking if the shorthand will be WoW:Fo, WoW:Fe or will it stay as classic+
>>580969882We fixed the green poison a long time ago
>>580974392>these daysHe was always a grifter lmaoRemember when he took money from blizzard to shill undermine?
>>580973129You don't need add-ons just use your eyeballs
>>580974018>xmog toggle they stole the Ascension client and are developing on it lmao
>>580974560I'm talking way back during his machinima days. Undermine is still fairly recent in the grand scheme of things.
EZPZ fix for Sk*b*rn*: a toggle in options that visualizes players that aren't your friends or in your guild as "standard" races. Alliance Sk*b*rn* turn into Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes, and Nelves. Horde Sk*b*rn* turn into Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, and Forsaken.
>>580974706>You don't need add-onsYou can watch any title player/mdi player and they basically have all the same shit they had before except they have to install 50 different addons instead of just weakauras.>>580974742>Undermine is still fairly recent in the grand scheme of things.Yes but after spending the last 8 years shitting on blizzard he shilled for money because he is a griter.
>>580974275why the fuck wasn't his ass at a panel at pizzcon then?
>>580974706Gotta give it to them, honestly, current dungeon pool is almost 100% doable without addons. Trash and nameplates still need work though.
skybourne look better than all the Elf Races in Retail.
>>580974392his reaction and adherence to the vanilla feel of the game is more genuine than any of the shills i've seen
>>580975010well yeah he is not getting paid to shill like the others
>>580974883how could they look better than something that's already in retail but with a minor color variation?
So we're not getting any retail news till next year?
>>580974715The ascension client was just the BFA client pretending to be a wrath client
>>580975249We already got a roadmap and a deep dive on all the stuff they are releasing in the near future.
>>580974742>muh fat jewtuber!you are pathetic
>>580974310Fat and can't play gamesLike 90% of this thread
I'm really excited about Forever because I really don't like how retail has turned into an endgame season simulator where everything is "GO GO GO" as fast as possible. But I'm autistic as fuck and hesitate to play it because it's not the "real" WoW. What should I do about my doubts?
Who won? Who losted?
>>580975249
>>580975515that's a male elf btw
https://www.youtube.com/@Warcraft/videos>all the videos is about classic+RETOILET SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>580975624And he's made for worgen knot.
Is the actual brutosaur ever coming back? I'd rather spend a hundred bucks than burn through my gold reserves for an even uglier mount desu
>>580975539Retail won. Classic losted bigly. We are getting kino robo climax expac and they are getting WoW canon try #2: tranny boogaloo
Female worgen.
RETOILET SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
What I hope with this Forever thing being a thing is that retail takes a similar approach after TLT. Leave the cap at 100 and keep the content to a smaller scale story-wise. It's not like the majority of retail players care about that, they only care about ilvl numbers and parse colors anyway.
>>580975931that's not going to happen because you have to lvl for more power, play forever if you fell for the horizontal progression meme.
>>580975884finally, some good fucking post amid constant dooming
>>580974018I never really understood the obsession with the Ogres as a playable race.I feel like people who cry for ogres don't even want to play as one, they are just obsessed over "cut content". but that might be just because I personally feel like they would look pretty stupid in armor, but hey at least they would fit horde more than Vulperas.
>>580974861No one cares about tranny mdi players
>>580975539retail is in nothing short of flames right now with EOS in sight due to esports fatigue and client bloat and classic has a hundreds of posts an hour thread going what do you think WE'RE FUCKED NIGGAWHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO MY MOGS AND MOUNTS ION???
>>580975931There was a small glimmer of hope when they said we would be saving azeroth "One last time." That implies their future plans are on the smaller scale and they won't be doing this cosmic bullshit any more.But then they showed the Forever trailer after proclaiming they were bringing "war back to warcraft" and showed nothing even remotely matching that so that faint glimmer of hope got snuffed out pretty fast.
>>580975539The old wow players won. Those of us who will not be partaking in Forever, I'm sure, have all been made to understand they have aged out of the game and have evolved beyond it. Wow is truly dead because it has done the worst thing a tech product could possibly do: become obsolete.
I'm so ready to make my next prelate
>>580975539Retail about to get the runescape treatment
>>580976364cant wait for the mount
>>580976364>le norf sandalslmaoall you need now is white socks
>>580976485what the fuck is a le norf sandal suppose to be lmao
>>580976197I think ogres would be funny, especially if they were added and high elves were not lol.I dont need ogres really. What I want with WoW Forever is what Classic WoW shouldve moved onto instead of TBC, alternative history.Make a murloc patch with all new murloc creatures or an ogre patch. Make another undead or legion raid. Do something.Build more next to the continents or create an entirely new continent but do it all in the style of Vanilla WoW. I want new shit, I want shit I would never see in Retail and then, if they want, both games could feed ideas into eachother, as long as its not the same lore. Add worgens or vulpera to Classic, in a classic style, add Skyborne to Retail. Who knows, I feel like people are very cynical and thats coming from me. My girlfriend and I are excited. My friends are too.Too bad I cant BUY WOW FOREVER ON MY BANNED BLIZZARD GAME LICENSE (im currently banned until February 2027 LOL)I should add that I am still working on my new room but itll serve as a backdrop for when I start rating TMogs in thread (tranny mogs)
>>580976572
>>580976687WeArenotonreddit
>>580976827Ah yes the famous retarded 4chan memes book.
>>580976415
>>580976994WROOOOONG!!!
>>580977228Looks bad
>>580976151I'm scared for worgs, bro.It might be over... forever.......
>no ulatek nerfs
>>580977228Top soul but still not as cool as undead
>>580976687How do I unsubscribe?
>>580969983I had this problem too, the tank kept trying to jump around mob packs and go over mountains that just ended up wasting so much time and pulling everything anyway, just do it fucking normally
>>580977320WROOOOONG!!!>>580977375Not wrong...
>>580977228>recolor of the pvp mounti sleep
>>580977228yeah boy
>>580977339Can't kill the boss too fast goy, gotta stay subbed for another month
>Classhit servers when Forever comes out
>>580969983>>580977529thats because this season is free and all the good players are doing 16s for 3400 and above for the new 5% and 1% shit.
>>580977713Hundreds of classic guilds died instantly as soon as the announcement hit kekthey won't even last until launch
>there's a la-dy who's sure>all that glit-ters is gold>and she's BUYYYYYYING the stairway,to Heaven
>>580977713Retail will be new classic
I was researching futa draenei yesterday
>>580977713>Classhit servers right now
>>580978024You came to the conclusion that red > blue?
>>580977713>>580978062>retail servers right now
>>580977380its called FOREVER for a reason, retard-kun.
is the town hub in last titan going to be dalaran AGAIN?
>>580977713>>580978062>Classhit servers since month 2 of launch
>>580978226no
>>580978163>dragonblight when TLT launches
>>580978107Yes
>>580977846triple…
>>580978226Dalaran is too busy doing triple duty in crystalsong forest, broken isles, and broken on khaz algar
Azeroth is getting killed/replaced/merged with Xal'atath during her boss fight. The Last Titan refers to the new Azeroth-Xal'atath hybrid, and we're making her the last titan by killing the Pantheon which shows up to obliterate this new void-infused worldsoul in TLT. We're now on her side because fighting her would kill the planet.They can't talk about TLT because they don't want to spoil this, which theoretically is the biggest plot point in WoW to date (counting coherent plot points so no Jailer). I say "theoretically" because they will absolutely fuck this up in every way just like every major and minor plot they've written since 8.0, but assuming they didn't fuck this up, this would be a plot point worth hiding TLT from Blizzcon for.
>>580978226no. they ported it to forever and i dont know whyits easily one of the worst cities ever added. its worse than oribos
>>580978403Talking about the last sneed would be dumb when they are trying to shill forever, they have to establish the server hard in order to kill classic and consolidate those players
>>580978403This is the most retarded thing ever, so it's probably true
>>580975406What
>>580976257you and every other legacy collection homo will get the joy of forever being mounted up in TLT main hub "y-youll never g-get this" youll whisper to no one as retail is put on maint mode while foreverchads actually have fun
Sargeras would kill himself if he saw his sword was inches away from connecting
>>580978679
>>580978348>there's a sign on the wall>but she wants to be sure>cause you know sometimes words have 2 meaningsoooOOOooo.. OOOOOooooooo
Forever is gonna flop. Well flop may be too strong of a word, but it's not going to be the success you think it's going to be. People are going to flock to it, naturally (and blizzard will make sure it launches during a content draught phase of the main game, of course) and then it's going to steadily dwindle exactly like classic did as people return to retail or quit altogether.That's all. Feel free to screenshot this post, because it's going to be true in a few years.
>>580977335worgens WILL be coming to foreverthis was revealed to me in a dream
>>580979168They will release another fresh tho
What happened to the porn in these threads?
>be me>join warcraft retail thread>all i see is classic/forever wabba dub dub>mfw
>>580979168>saying this doomer shit when its already fixed all that classic shit that kills realms in a couple monthsbehead all doomers
>>580978568I can't imagine what else happens in that fight. It has to be a plot point so big that they refuse to play TLT's cinematic at Blizzcon because it spoils it. "We beat Xal'atath" is obviously not good enough. Even "we kill Xal'atath and finally meet Azeroth in person" isn't good enough because that doesn't set up the third expac in a trilogy particularly well. Personally I think it's actually a pretty cool plot point because it immediately drops our motivations from "we must defeat evil" to "We hate this bitch but it's side with her or die".None of this matters though because they will fuck it up as they always do. This plot point is being written by the people who just presented us with Zul'jarra and Zul'jan.>>580978679Remember that Zovaal (the Jailer) specifically needed the Fourth War to happen and weaken Azeroth, so he meticulously planned for Sargeras to stab Azeroth but be stopped before he could mortally wound it. That little gap between the tip of the sword and the worldsoul? Yup. Jailer.
>>580979371There's nothing doomy about this, it's going to have the same population that classic has today in the end, give or take. People will still play it. But it's not going to be this GIGA new thing that people expect, either.
Are the Forsaken the most fumbled race in the whole game? It feels like they never could decide on if they were supposed to be genocidal maniacs crusading against life, or if they were supposed to be just as human as the average citizen of other kingdoms but shunned and mistrusted if not outright despised due to them being undeath.
>>580979356look at this retail jeet. so low iq lol.
>>580979262Forever as it's revealed to be, is horizontal progression. Meaning you hit lvl 60 and that's it. No more extra power or levels. So you'll be running raids and dungeons for mogs and other cosmetics, even the newer stuff. I very seriously doubt that this has staying power for the main wow demographic. People will still hop on and off, and it'll be this side gig, just not what most of you expect. Kinda like a perma Remix server if you will.
i fucking suck im so fucking bad
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow-forever/talent-calculatorForever Talent Calculator is up. Assassination Rogue getting huge love.
>>580979704I know what it is that's why they will want another fresh so they can start all over again>>580979781>shitter envenom you have to manage with sndIt feels like assassination is getting huge hate unless they get cut to the chase
How the fuck did we losted so bigly bros? Feels like they said fuck all about retail meanwhile classic gets a new engine and new graphics.
>>580979556Different writers with different interpretations, some who think undead should have never been playable in the first place and treat them like the Scourge 2.0 and others who treat them like any other Horde race with a struggling-to-survive-in-a-world-that-hates-them narrative.
>>580936992>blizz finally make light caster>it's stuck in some scenario mode that will be forgotten the next expansion
>>580979781I was promised tanking survival and warlocks, where is it?
>>580979989wdym? They announced a new retail patch and an entire new retail game. They said nothing about classic at all.
>>580980067You fell for the 4chan memes anon... Forever is not sod they are not adding meme specs to classes.
>>580980087>They said nothing about classic at alStill in the denial phase I guess?
>>580980135Hmm but melee survival seems to be a legit thing now? Hmmmmmmmm
>>580979405>We hate this bitch but it's side with her or dieWe literally just did that in Ka'resh against big bad Dimensius and Xally betrayed our naïve asses
>>580977335best case scenario - retailkeks will realize soon that forever is still clunky ass vanilla with toxic population and return for 12.2/TLT.worst case scenario - it will become popular enough so they start importing races from retail to forever, including worgs and 'peras
>>580979556Kinda makes sense for undead doe. Some are just happy they are sort of "alive" and some think they're fucking abominations anyway and might as well go beast mode.
>>580980221Melee survival is not a meme spec tho and they are fixing all the shitty useless trash from vanilla like prot and ret paladin/survivor hunter
>>580980207Show me where they announced anything for classic. I'll wait. We got retail and retail-, that's it.
I knew they were gonna announce classic+ but I didn't think they would go so hard in it that it threatens to kill retail. They must want to pull the ripcord on all of modern wow since the lore is going nowhere and faces nothing but ridicule.
>>580980387Wait melee survival was viable in classic? Last time I played it was still a meme. Anyway, yeah, that's what I mean, seems like it's becoming a legit thing now.Human Rogue - adventurer themedHuman Survival hunter - duskwood themed, with a dog petHuman Warlock - eeeeeh themed, just a dark wizard igThree challengers approach. I have some musing to do.
>>580980569>Wait melee survival was viable in classic?No that's the point survival was suppose to be a melee spec in vanilla but blizzard had no idea what they were doing and they ran out of time and shipped a really broken and incomplete product but this time they are taking their time to fix shit like surv hunter, disc priest, paladins, etc.
>>580979356This is the exact kind of player who farms LFR every week for 8 hours, buys wow tokens for Normal/Heroic carries and does Daily content every patch reset.
>>580979989It's all in support of trash. It's just dogshit wrapped up in shiny tinfoil, much like Midnight. Not only are Classicucks getting revamped vanilla, but now they're getting it without decent expansions like TBC and Wrath. Skyborne prove Blizz is as lazy and moneygrubbing as ever and both Skyborne and undead paladins prove they haven't learned a fucking thing. They're still trying to subvert expectations and force asspull fanfic OC bullshit.This was their chance to add ogres and naga to the game, the community would've gone fucking wild. They could gone in so many different directions within what people had long expected out of Classic+/WoW2 and instead they basically transplanted everything wrong with Retail to a fever dream Classic era.This is going to be such a fucking shitshow that I guarantee we'll be hearing about how pozzed the storylines are and how they don't hold a candle to anything pre-Shadowlands.
>>580979781quick look over paladin tree.I feel like you could make 30ret-21holy into a pretty damn powerful holy shockadin pvp build.
>>580980431Yep, that's some extreme level of denial. Doctor, get this man some higher dosage medication, stat.
>>580980870Blizzard is smarter than you lmao they know no one want ogres and trash like nag, not even the classic cucks
>>580979556Not even close.>Main characters of one of the most beloved and great zones ever made>Look fucking cool, great narrative behind them both in general and specifically reasons to become playable>Multiple flavors from arcane to withered to fel>Everyone begged for them to be playable from 7.0 then>Nightborne go Horde with the flimsiest narrative reasoning when they're way too similar to Belves thematically anyway>This was the end of 7.3.5 so you could even argue playable Nightborne was the start of the eternal slop era of WoW writing>Hideous Norwood Elves with crackwhore faces that don't match the beauty of the Suramar ones at all>Both males and females are this ugly, there is zero value for anyone>Dogshit racials>Never become Demon Hunters because Blizzard is too fucking lazy to hire 2 new voice actors and model 4 gendered metas>Go from one of the most requested races I've ever seen to completely unplayed>Even outside of their playable version Nightborne as a race have been fumbled so hard that outside of Thalyssra they might as well not exist and Thalyssra herself could be reskinned as Lor'themar's belf arm candy and nothing would change
>>580973846unless you have the mind and morals of a 3rd world meth addicted grifter and you're amazed you can buy items for 1k then resell them for 50k you're probably better off quitting now.in the very least if you're going to try doing a lot of the world questing and even more repetitive work table farming expect to burn out of that multiple times before the end of the expansion. this kind of shit will make you sick of the game. if you haven't done anything like this before whatever pace you think you can keep cut it in half.
>>580980870>This was their chance to add ogres and naga to the game, the community would've gone fucking wildExcept, elves are by far the most played race and were by far the most popular in their surveys? I think by "the community" you mean you.
>>580980948NTA but I would love to know what you've seen so far that makes you think the stories will be better in Forever. The Skyborne alone prove it's going to be utter garbage.
they should've just done high elves and undead elves for each faction and charged 15$ for Forever access (on top of the sub). I bet they would get 0 complaints then.
>>580980948classic is dead lil gup, get over it
>>580981016Sure buddy. Just like how Classic was supposed to kill Retail. If you want want to play another reskinned belf model, go right ahead. It just doesn't interest me, sorry.
Skyborne (and their asspulled lore) is a red flag the size of Africa for what kind of "content" forever is going to get.
>>580981127I've seen you posted this repeatedly across multiple boards, I get that you just want the game to be Elfcraft, that's fine. But Midnight proved Blizz can't write stories even with an all-elf cast of characters so I have zero faith in Forever. At least in retail I get to play a version of my class I'm already happy with and just pvp all day. I hope Forever does it for you though, I really do. Seems like you've been chasing that rainbow for a while.
>>580979556Yes, it'll always be the Forsaken. Anyone saying other-wise is just coping. The entire race had it's lore built around 1 character for over a decade and then they decided to remove that character from the faction and replace her with one that wasn't built up at all and most people consider Alliance.The lore has been a mess since BFA and really, they're not allowed any big attempt to try and fix it because if Night Elf players have to spend 5 more minutes on screen with the Forsaken again they'll chimp out so hard they'll make the Great Sundering look like a simple earthquake.
>>580980870>add ogres and naga to the gameI've been seeing this shit for almost 20 years now and I don't understand why people ask for it.No, you are not going to play as fat meme race. Ogres will become designated lvl 1 alt in skimpy pants race with le funny name, that dances on the mailbox or whatever.And no you don't want a race that cannot wear 50% of the gear either, you already have fucking dragons and nobody plays them.
>>580980024>>580980362I always preferred them being *misunderstood* that word doing a bit of heavy lifting here. But I dislike how many writers just choose to make them comically evil. I like them better when they are desperate survivors of the scourge trying to forge something akin to a *life* in the ruins of their old home, that doesn't mean they all have to be *good* but something in between due to their circumstance and the hostility they are met with in most cases. Them being a mirror of the kingdom of Stormwind, would be more interesting in my opinion
>>580981101So just buy wow tokens?
>>580981406Skyborne is a red flag the size of the fucking moon. Them and forsaken paladins. Blizz really has no idea what they're doing, they're just pooling all their talent points into mechanics, graphics, monetization and HR-led decisions.Lore might as well not even exist at this point, the game in any form is just a lobby now.
>>580981768At this point people want ogres out of spite.
>>580973846Same but I already have 5m. But it's comfy having that much money, I don't wanna go back to 0
>>580981768>you people keep asking for this, well we know you won't play them despite you saying you want to play them, we know better than you so nyeh>now here's kul tiran, haranir, reskinned dwarves and dragonfaggotsUh huh.
>>580981952I have like 15m and I wouldn't waste so much on such an ugly mount. I might buy the new vrykul mount when it's on sale tho that one is pretty cool.
>>580981768>>580981897>blizz shouldn't make meme races people ask for because no one would really play them>so blizz instead pumps out complete asspull races no one asked for and no one plays
Did classic people figure out what they wanted for Plus yet?
>>580982202asspulls are fast and easy unlike ogres tho>>580982286yeah but it wasnt forever...
>>580982031the dragons are cool fuck yourest can fuck off doe
>>580982048I don't have any AH mount so it would be a nice to have. Though I could wait for a brutosaur resale, which is, what, 2,5m in Tokens?
>>580981768>Blizzard shouldn't make races for people who actually wanna play the race>Instead they should keep making asspulled variants of Night Elf and Blood Elf for the people who'll never swap off Night Elf and Blood Elf.I'd take Ogre any day because at least it's Warcraft
it seems for forever they are returning to the Legion Demonic WC2 roots and reworking all of the Titan/Void lore.
>>580982328>yeah but it wasnt forever...What was it?
>>580982328Explain to me how KT humans are fast and easy. They had to design them from the ground up and no one plays them. Literally no one.
>>580982456more people wouldve played the lanklet skeleton kultirans if they had the option
>>580982456they share a skeleton with Pandas, I'm pretty sure
>>580982456>KT humansTheir biggest problem is that they can't play paladin's for some fucked up reason, and they decided to make their women chubby and goofy looking too. Had they designed more in line with the old Human models from Warcraft 1-2 or that guy from the MOP cinematic, I think they would have been way more popular
ARGHHHHHH KINOOOOOO
>>580982031>>580982202>>580982357Reskins are cheaper than your mother, that's why blizz pumps them out every expac. Ogres and Naga would require actual development time and dragon experiment showed that it is simply not worth it.>b-but I'm going to play it!no you're not. You're going to make an alt play it for 15 minutes realize that new race does not match the wet dreams you had in your head and drop it.
drae-babes for-forever and I´ll be there for-foreverI´m a man of conviction and I´m convicted to goon, so give me the goats and I´ll give you my doubloons
please blizzGAWDS....blizzcon is over....please...nerf the tank....doing 110k more dps than prot paladin....please....I....want invites....too
>>580982795Yes Chang, we know you don't like Warcraft you just want more Elf craft. You don't need to seethe about people who want Warcraft all the time.
