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Semi hardcore edition

>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW
>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more
>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman
>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, crossregion but will be on EU on release
<Little Space> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be on NA on release

>Old
>>581846262
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I think flying needs to be added to the game and also i LOVE cock
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I'm a sub-saharan african man living in russia with genitals the sized of a thimble when hard, which race and class would best suite me in wow forever
My genitals are still much larger than the average russian male btw
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>>581862189
whoever made OP's pic couldn't hack it in classic 40 man raids because of a social deficit
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>>581870729
>social deficit
lmfao!
you need more networking skills even in retoilet if you wanna clear all the content than you do for vanilla wow
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>>581871016
That's not true since in retail you don't even have to interact to join a raid
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>>581871242
>reading comprehension
good luck clearing mythic raids without talking to anyone
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>>581871507
Then go back to retail if it's so good
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>>581871713
i never said it was good
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Guys are there any PVE /wfg/ guilds?
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Anyone getting the urge to ditch all your friends, create a new battle net, avoid everyone, make a new path, fresh account, blank slate into Forever?
I could become a new man.
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>>581872971
I don't have that problem because I never keep friends beyond a server or guild. I always start fresh.
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>>581872971
why? what do you gain from all that
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>>581873481
So he can have gay furry erp.
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>Go on the official forums
>To see if anyone made a thread about opt-in beta
>Nothing but people complaining
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>>581877354
Claiming her. She's mine now.
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>>581877354
let us see the bulge
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>Name character Fart Mcpoo
>banned
>beta taken away
>money stolened
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>>581877354
>world of warcraft?
>zephrys isle?
>stormwind?
>relax honey, we're just walking down the streets of downtown did you hit your head?
you will never walk with your skelf wife in a snowy city
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>Rage generation has been normalized, meaning it the Rage you gain from auto-attacks no longer is based on the damage you dealt, it is a predetermined amount; this greatly reduces the amount of Rage that a Warrior can generate. On top of that, you also no longer generate additional Rage from Crits, you will get the same amount of Rage as if you dealt a normal hit.
Ewwwwww
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They should add a boat that goes between Shadowprey and Revantusk Village, I just think it'd be neat if the two troll ports in the game were connected.
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How much will you be willing to spend to unlock high elves? Keep in mind blizzard has worked incredibly hard on these asset flips and you should tip them aswell (25%).
1. 150$ -(youre ok blizz)
2. 200$ -(i like you blizz)
3. 250$ -(i LOVE you blizz)
4. 300$ -(put ur baby in me blizz)
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>>581877694
>making stuff up to make herself angry
girlllll....
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>alexensual says were playing a glorified private server
no...
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>>581877597
but... why
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>>581877772
literally who cares about this faggot
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>>581872874
I believe PvE is more designed for dad gamers and competitive raiders, and this demographic is not going to go and meme on a casual 4chin guild
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Quesa status?
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>>581877597
>rage normalisation
>stance dancing dead
We need to start a suicide watch for the brownies.
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What guild am I supposed to join if I'm not good enough for hardcore guilds but don't want to deal with 40 year old boomers taking 6 hours to do a raid in a casual guild?
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>>581872874
Any guild that isn't pvp alliance isn't a true 4chan guild.
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>>581877778
puffy vulva
>>581877849
only an orc warrior can satisfy her
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>>581877773
We have had 20 years of warrior being the top dps.
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https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/experience-requirements-significantly-reduced-in-wow-forever-383038
>leveling experience cut by 30%
Oh no no no... bros, news of our classic experience getting raped is increasing every day that goes by.
I don't know much longer I can cope..
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>>581877913
warriors get first dibs on weapons and trinkets as reparations
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>>581877765
youre right, 300$ is far underpriced for such craftsman ship…
The base package will start at 500$… msft needs to milk you incredibly smart gaymers 2 da max!
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sup fartmongers.
what's the general conensus?
is wow back or not?
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>alexensual says this is classic for retailers
>he says blizz will never listen to you, only voice of xaryu, esfand, etc. matter
>this is not classic plus
wow.
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>>581877997
He won
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>>581878045
ermmm muh little bideo game!!!
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alex spewing a lot of truth tonight for once
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Think Gilneas will be a raid or will they finally try that gilneas city bg they had planned for cata?
And speaking of battlegrounds I wonder if Azshara Crater will be dota style.
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Has blizzard said when they plan on adding new races?

i want to make a hunter but i’d prefer to be a goblin hunter, so if they eventually add goblins after i’m 40 lvls deep as a troll hunter i’m going to pissed.

also i heard melee hunters are viable now? when will we know what types of weapons/equipment each race/class can use? i would be a melee hunter if i could have mail/plate and a shield. i don’t want to be a dps melee hunter.
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Has anyone checked Gnomeragon yet or is it gunna be the same shit house it was before?
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ewww, the retail tranny blue efl spammer is an actual namefag pedophile posting in an active thread on /b/
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no longer generating rage from being hit. what the fuck blizzard
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>>581877597
They ought to normalize windfury next. Give it a 30s icd and have it only do one bonus hit.
RNG shouldn't be winning duels.
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>>581878045
>>alexensual says this is classic for retailers
i mean alex memes aside, is this not true? They clearly do want to try and say "see retail fans? look at this. it's more le accessible for you. go on, try it" with a lot of design choices.

Not that this necessarily means the game is hopeless, ofc - im not dooming. But their messaging and marketing are pretty clear with the whole "third pillar" thing.
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so now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
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forever is retail
classic is retail
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>>581878285
like?
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>>581878452
Proof?
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>They reduced the amount of XP it takes level 5 and onward
Ew
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Any other way of getting a key other than praying for beta opt-in if I don't want to shell out 60 fucking clams?
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>>581878334
The roadmap only really has a new zone and a bunch of (slop) raids for the first year of the game's life. I wouldn't bank on any sort of meaningful changes outside of those two things for a long period of time.
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>>581878498
other than the UI this game is 90% classic. what is the problem? i'm as classic andy as they come and this is fucking great. like what specifically is retail. and don't give me ui or elf shit. something tangible about the syste,s that is meaningfully closer to retail than classic
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>>581878498
If you play the sky tranny zone its extremely obvious its made for retailers
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>>581878536
no patch in 5 days
they haven't sent me a beta key
game's cooked, they forgot about it. I messaged aggrend about Forever and he was confused what I was talking about and had to google it
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>>581878632
Xaryu debunked this.
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>>581878761
I counter-debunked it
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Xaryu tongues my anus.
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>>581878334
Probably not for like a year
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>>581878704
yes, and we’ll still love this game next expansion where we go to the Dragon Isles to learn dragon riding! However; it may not be the dragon riding youre thinking of ;)
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>>581878632
it's all about the journey so this is a good thing, actually
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>>581877773
Rage generation coupled with scaling with item stats meant brownoids would never be dethroned. They had their knees capped but without rage changes they'd have to be beaten to death like twice as bad as they have it.
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Anybody did the lvl 20 undead paladin class quest?
Is it good?
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How long will servers be down?
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To fix the FPS issue..
Update drivers. I did a clean install (5070ti).
In graphics option, make sure you don't have any target FPS options set.
I've been at least 120 FPS on high/ultra settings since. No dips even after going to a city and leaving.
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They should make Gnomeragon a 10 man raid at Mid-Gane and also give Horde something similar.
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I thought I would hate the sky elves while playing as one but I have to admit they are growing on me
just wish they had an SD model that is a belf from the tbc days and give the same hairs and skin colors since they already share the same animations and all
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>>581878849
>revamped iconic raid
it's gonna be mc ain't it?
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>>581879032
make her lift the dress up and show her chastity cage
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>>581879101
duh
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Server restart in 3 mins, down for 4 hours.
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>>581879032
yes gaymer, we should all open our wallets for the small fee of 30$ for blue blood elves from 20 years ago… hehehe *rubs hands together*
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>>581879030
horde gets the booty bay teleporter to gnomer, it's arguably faster to get there as a dindu than ally
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>>581878632
isnt the whole game about leveling
why even do this
t. retoilet
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>>581872874
Trying to join a 4Chan Guild after reading even 2 WoW generals, doesn't matter what flavor is crazy. Troons and drama all day. Have fun!
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>>581878571
don't feel comfortable linking to what i see as child porn, but he's namefagging as Gardener on /b/ in one of the generals, should be pretty easy to find if you know how to use the archive site
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why is this blue elf nigga still posting oh my god we know it's you
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>join /vg/ Forever guild
>people found out I'm the 20 year old femboy
>whispered for 4 hours straight
>leave guild
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>>581879101
i mean what else. def not bwl, aq40, naxx. could be zg, aq20 as an intro to some scepter of the shifting sands event. ooo they could go nutty with karazhan.
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>4 days in and pooever is already dead
this is really sad, blizzard needs to pay for more viewbotting on twitch
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>>581879221
Fair enough. I don't have much experience with Horde so I wasn't aware of that. Still it be nice for them to rework Gnomeragon a bit
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>>581878632
wowhead being retarded
the numbers they are reporting are identical to the numbers used for classic which are the same that vanilla used
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HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO TANK AS A PALADIN???? I HAVE A TAUNT WITH A COOLDOWN OF LIKE 30 SECONDS.
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So is Warrior a dead class now?
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I want to serve mummy sylvanas but orgrimmar is too much of a ghetto mudhut shithole is justify planing horde
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>>581879465
IGN?
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>>581879560
I tried it at LVL 20 for awhile when I unlocked DW. Without the rage giving extra on crit the class feels so slow now.
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Why did they give orcs a curse and bane immunity for 8 seconds? Alliance warlocks already have to suffer under the bullshit that is WotF. Now it's going to be twice as worse. Undead and Orc are the most common horde races. I really hope there's a ton of elf players, because there's seriously going to be zero alliance warlock players unless they make more changes.
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>>581879534
what? judgment has a 10 sec cd.
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>>581862189
Can I name myself Nagger Slayer or is that bad
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>>581878632
See >>581879556
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petri petri
GET OUT BROS PETRI PETRI PETRI PETRI
will there be petris in wowever hardcore
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best class to play when you're le high?
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>>581879534
RF
Consc
Stop spamming judge
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>>581879284
>believing the guild drama you read about on 4chan
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>>581879514
true
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>>581879560
It's kinda looking that way. DPS Warrior will probably still be fine but even with the Prot buffs they seem quite lacking compared to all the insane shit Druid and Paladin have now.
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>>581879748
the devs said you can petri but you can't teleport out of instance when you leave group
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>>581878849
I think launch is going to be really fun but this really tempers the long term of this whole thing for me. They're not constrained by the retail issue of every major patch needing to have a new zone/raid/casual content/assets out the ass resulting in 7 month stretched of no content with the same thing. The amount of polish they're working with here is "shove goblins into the den or make high elves spawn in northshire abbey" and it'd be on par with the rest of the game but all we're getting here is 10 months of raids and some dungeons. Not that my primary want here is new races or anything but it's just raids and dungeons. I certainly want new raids and dungeons but I was really hoping they'd add weirder shit as a result of being able to do whatever whenever.
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>>581879769
>RF
What does this mean?
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>>581879771
Nigger, they post screenshots. I'VE SEENT IT. It's all mentally ill people. Sorry to the normal people who are in these guilds, if they are indeed normal.
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>>581879101
Inside info is that MC is getting split into a 10 and 20 with Rag as a stand alone 40
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>>581879861
righteous fury
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>>581879635
Without a shield warrior rage is extremely slow leveling. It's actually faster as prot because you get some rage from blocks, dodge, and parry. Taking a hit doesn't even give a rage point either anymore. I don't see how anyone would want to be a warrior right now.
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>>581879861
righteous fire
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>>581879861
rape females
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>>581879465

Faggot troon
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>>581879816
so hardcore will be pretty dead then
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>>581880074
From fags who suck, which is a good thing
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>>581880074
The respawn rates in mines and caves will make HC unplayable anyway.
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>>581879518
Wtf they actually are the same kek
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https://x.com/towelthetank/status/2102137668377473277

Your boy Towelie is having a meltdown over Forever
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>>581879909
What are the screenshots, what are the unredacted wowfg guild files
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>>581879560
Warrior and mage are both dead now.
The age of the hybrid tax is over.
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>>581880074
all servers will be dead because forever is too hard for retailers and too easy for classic autists, it leaves a playerbase of 0
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>>581879518
>>581880152
Imagine fucking taking anything wowhead says seriously
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>>581880194
hybrid tax is an essential component of vanilla class design but this thread is full of retoilets who dont know any better so it goes uncriticized btw.
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>>581880209
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I will be erping with Quesa's "wife" (aka himself on his sock puppet account)
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>>581880149
They won't be that quick in HC. They won't continue to be that quick on live after the initial launch rush dies down. Are you retarded? Honest question.
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>find group
>run dungeon
>kill first boss
>tank leaves because that's the only boss he needed loot from
>everyone else now has to sit around for 30 mins waiting for another tank
i'm guessing this is just how retail players behave
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>>581880074
Hardcore was always a dead mode.
>b-but onlyfags..
Astroturfed streamer shit doesn't count
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>>581880152
>Wowhead misreports something without doing basic fact-checking
>it becomes gospel for doomers who are going to repost is incessantly for the new 2 months
Epic as always, Wowhead, you fucking nonces
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>>581880181
More like /wowpsg/ and /wowcg/ is where I saw them, but all the same fags are now playing Forever and in this Gen.
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>wowhead is fudging the numbers or incorrectly pulling "vanilla XP rates from some pserver" with adjusted values
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which genius invented the word retoilet
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>>581880293
Hybrid tax was a mistake because it's fucking nothing at lower levels but punishing at higher levels with pigeonholing the hybrids into being healers or healer support since they can't tank or DPS as effectively as other tanks or DPS specs.
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>>581880194
>>581880293
It will never not be funny that warrior is so broken in classic that it psy-oped people into forgetting it's a hybrid
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I WILL be watching BIG TONKA T TYLER1 play WoW forever thougheverbeit

And occasionally Grubby.
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>>581880209
TRVKE! This will 100% happen a couple months after release.
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>>581880293
Nah, more options is always better.
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>>581880373
based tank, dabbing on DPS trannies. Sucks for the innocent healer though.
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warriors are worse now? excellent, I will play one
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>>581880487
me
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>>581880554
Being able to toss out a shitty heal that costs your main resource that you need for tanking/DPS abilities means you need to be 80% less effective overall.
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>>581880209
why would it be too hard for retailers

is retail really that much easier than OG WoW?
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>>581880451
>wowhead slapped (UNDER REVIEW) on their news post about XP requirements being reduced by 40%
lol
lmao
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>They're already backtracking
>Article writer is a retail fag
This is why retail faggots need to stay away
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>>581880569
DOPA DOWN!
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WOWHEAD LIED
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>>581880157
lmaoing at the classicsissies seething hard at towel
the reality is classicturds had their go on at their own servers and it failed and is now fucking dead, blizzard learned it's lesson and won't be listening to classictroons any longer, they will play by ear with forever and filter out the loudmouth classictards because they know it's all talk and no gaming
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OMEGALUL
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>>581880194
Um, what do I do if I play both classes?
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Add a zep tower to Kargath
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>>581877778
>kisses her bulge
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>>581879598
I know this feeling bro. orgrimmar is very uncomfy and so is that indian underworld sewer city. forgot the name.

thunderbluff is nice though, i try to use that as my main city even if it’s out of the way
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what does he think of forever?
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>>581880835
janny rape this retoilet and send him back to the maze+ mines IMMEDIATELY
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>>581872874
<Little Space> (name pending) will be on RP(pve)
many of us have played together since 2019 classic and cleared all content back then, most in tbc (aka pre nerf kt/vashj) and all of sod stuff except the very last raid
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>>581880859
wew
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>2026
>still giving traffic to wowhead
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>>581880152
>>581880741
>>581880859
doomerjeetbros, our response?
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>>581880859
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>>581880930
your guild name sounds like a pedo dogwhistle, fag
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>>581880859
>Retail faggot that writes guides for wowhead somehow grabs Legion XP rates and doesn't think to fact check this in game that would take literally 10 seconds
What the fuck, not even chatgpt would make that mistake
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>>581880792
>WOWHEAD LIED
'NILLERS DIED
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OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHA
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>>581877997
So leveling takes longer? Why would that ruin the experience then, this is kino
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do you still need to trade people to sell enchants?
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>xp nerf debunked
what will private server assblasted russians cope about now? i think they'll spam ai slop once again
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>>581881039
Still not playing forever
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>40% less total xp required
>free rested xp every hour
>permanent 5% xp from trivial cooking
>permanent 3% xp from sleeping bag
>consumables that give you 40% rested xp
You didn't listen
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What's 1 thing you feel they NEED to change before release? However big or small. For me? They NEED to 1,000,000,000% change the Treasure Finding Racial for Dwarf into something new and interesting like all the other Races have.
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Forever IS NOT for you, chvd. It's not YOUR game.
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>>581881130
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They should add more questlines about the 4 main shit stirrers (Magatha, Varimathras, Fandral and Onyxia) undermining peace between factions and causing general unrest.
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>>581881181
>internet celeb
>4chan addon
>wanting instant leveling
>>>/wowg/
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Forever is for me, specifically.

Or it will be, ONCE THEY ADD GOBLINS!!!!!!
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i miss dungeon spamming.
i don't care about boosting, but doing dungeons was my favorite part about wow, then they ruined it with level scaling.
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>>581880554
when stuff like dps priest on twow got buffed I had guildmates deciding they had a doctorate in hybrid tax theory. then I asked them ok how come warrior gets to be the best tank and dps in vanilla WoW? and they always spew the most random bullshit
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In every world PvP skirmish I've seen from streamer clips Horde still dominate. Why can't Alliance sissies into PvP even with new broken racials?
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>>581881143
Lords of lordaeron has some hidden chests here and there, its not that useless, kappa
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people who complained about Dungeon XP must be absolutly no gamers, Quests give so much fucking xp, I chained RFC(14->16)->UC(16->19)->WC(19-20 would have been level 21 if not capped),

You can prolly just chain dungeons from level 14-39 without doing a single non dungeon Quest.

I will totally try to chain:
Ragefire Chasm 14-16
Ruins of Lordaeron 16-19
Wailing Caverns 19-21
Shadowfang Keep 21-23
Excavation Site 23-25
Blackfathom Deeps 25-27
Scarlet Monastery: Graveyard 27-28
City of Dalaran 28-30
Scarlet Monastery: Library 30-31
Razorfen Kraul 31-33
The Drowned City 33-35
Scarlet Monastery: Armory & Cathedral 35-37
Krol'dok Stronghold 37-39
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>>581881130
>>40% less total xp required
this is a lie btw it was made up out of thin air and wowhead is already retracting the article
the XP chart is identical to vanilla
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>>581880859
They were using values when you min-maxed sleeping bags. It's okay foreverjeets, we can keep playing.
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>>581881220
Onyxia already has a huge quest line attached to her but you're absolutely right about the other three.
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>receive a tell asking if I'd be interested in joining a guild and that they'd love to have me and do all sorts of events and stuff, well written and considerate even if it's just a macro
>reply with 'yeah sure sounds good'
>never receive a guild invite
my dumb ass really thought somebody wanted me
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>>581881149
i mean he's right. they made it for a broader audience. leaving in 80-90% of classic and modifying the rest
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>>581881238
I don't give a fuck it's a funny clip + imagine being too fucking lazy to install a tampermonkey script lmao
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>>581878919
Crits have always generated extra rage even on retail.
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>>581881289
I think they might have to nerf dungeon quest exp, you're going to be able to ignore large swathes of the game and it's way less annoying to do than dungeon spam was.
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>>581881149
next blizzcon holly will disembowel him in front of thousands
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>>581877773
Because it's impossible to balance. Your damage increasing also increases your rage generation which further increases your damage, exponential returns. In this pic warriors are the green line and every other class is the blue line. The fundamentally different shape of the graph means you cannot reconcile the two lines no matter what you do.
Exponential doesn't mean that warriors are guaranteed to be overpowered, you could translate the green line downward to be below the blue line i.e. you could nerf warrior damage to be the worst in the game, but the shape of their dps progression with gear would remain the same. No matter what you do the two lines can only intersect at one point, i.e. even the best case scenario is that warriors can only be considered balanced at a single point of progression like a single raid tier.

Another good example of this is WotLK armor penetration. It was also a stat with exponential returns, the more of it you had the better it got. Warriors were obviously the most dependent on armor penetration of any class because they are 100% physical, and how did they rank in WotLK? They ranged from bad to mediocre until the end of ICC when they finally attained the ArP hardcap. In this case, their dps curve was translated such that it only intersected the linear graph of every other dps class at the very end of the expansion.

Rage was a mistake from the very beginning, in all reality warriors should have just had energy like rogues.
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>>581881149
Has anyone figured out what race towelliee is yet
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>>581881341
lmao retard
sorry, bro
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>>581881315
I hope you're right !
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>>581881341
Let's make our own guild called <Gay Losers> and fill it with rejects.
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>>581881149
fat piece of shit
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realistically speaking the people that will play forever are the people that played classic because their servers are dead and the reality is that their servers are dead because of their nochanges stance
so, it's a very funny paradox that the game is meant to be played (and will) be played mostly by classic players AND at same time they shouldn't have any say on the direction of the game because it's been proven they are stupid and blizzard shouldn't listen to them
people who play retail will quit forever very soon after because there is literally nothing fun for them to do in the game that isn't more fun on retail
if you disagree with my very reasonable statements you are wrong
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>>581881320
xp buffs don't change the amount of xp needed to level you fucking retard.
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Do warlocks not get a mass summon type spell?
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>>581879648
Warlock will always be a free raid spot as ally, same as shaman. This time the number of rogues and mages is rock bottom too
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>>581881436
mystery meat aka american
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>>581881556
lol
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>>581881149
this entire discourse is just from side A or B using extreme examples such as 1 retard making unreasonable statements and or strawmen, then using that for the entirety of their arguments and vagueposts. they won't directly reply to this so-called outrageous retard, they'll just say "so many people are saying (1)"
basically, kill them all.
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>>581881448
just google "wow vanilla xp table" if you don't believe me
there were no XP spikes at 39 and 59, wowhead just made that up

>>581881479
#nochanges was always retarded and ignorable, the reason we got it for so long is that blizzard had zero faith in classic and genuinely didn't understand why anyone wouldn't want to play the latest FOMOslop
once they saw people preferred the old design philosophy they started experimenting with SOD but it's clearly been low budget considering skelves are just reskins of belves so obviously corporate still doesn't trust the team
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>>581881027
He obviously thought he discovered the new retail vs classic controversy in forever that would attract tons of clicks/views and didn't hesitate to try to be the first one posting about it instead of reviewing the accuracy of the information.
Typical retail nigger behaviour.
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>>581881503
yes it do nigga
if i have an xp buff that gives me 3x xp at all times
that means i level 3x as fast
which means i cut leveling 2/3rds
which means less less xp required to level up
which means ur wrong. i accept your consolidation.
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>>581881315
>(UNDER REVIEW)
>We are currently reviewing the accuracy of the experience table numbers - we'll update this article shortly.
>Author's name revoked
kek
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>>581881149
So what part of the game did he find annoying and want to retail-ify to prompt this seethe?
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>City of Dalaran 28-33
dalaran is going to be popping off once the level cap is raised to 30, and the stinky horde niggers will be forced to congregate at the sewer entrance while alliance chads enjoy the city

lmao
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>hit level 17
>whole gear is in blue
Hmm...did they at least make enemies stronger? Shit feels way too easy now
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>>581881479
No matter how we struggle to return home, we simply can't
Blizzard North is gone and not coming back
Nu-Blizz can't be trusted
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>>581881435
Good post in a sea of retardation
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Asmongold is like Joshua leading an army 100k strong
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>>581881149
I genuinely agree with everything he's saying but he wrote this statement like he's a kindergarten teacher clapping back at his unruly class and I resent that
fuck Towelliee
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>>581881708
gen alpha fat asian kid
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>>581881341
Damn I want you to be my in-game bf
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>>581881435
Having lots of warriors is good for the community because it means you have lots of tanks available for dungeons. If warriors aren't the top damage there won't be a reason for anyone to roll them since then it's a class with no cc, no damage, and no utility.
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>>581881706
You actually fucking think they're giving you an item that just gives you 3x rates?
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>>581881640
blizzcon: we present A+!!
A-chads: wow this is going to be great!
B-tards: make it like B or it sucks!
enlightened centrist retards (you): both sides are equally bad
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>>581877597
Get fucked woyer nigger. You're not the best by default anymore.
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>>581881706
>3x xp
You get 1.03x xp you retard
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>people left era to play other iterations
>this means era bad nobody wants it haha take that chuds
Blizzard has actively stopped doing anything for it, that's why. So of course people are going to go for the new thing that is being actually worked on. I GUARANTEE YOU if Blizz released a fresh Era it would be by far the most popular out of all the classic realms.
The very fact that Era, being a literal dead frozen in time server, still has an active playerbase, is a testament to just how good it is.
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>>581881149
This is 100% facts though. Blizz isn't trying to pander to classic andys or retoilets, they are trying to make money and that means getting the most paying customers possible, and the single biggest population of wow players are people that don't play the game at all anymore because they don't like any of what blizzard is providing. Classic is too clunky, retail is way too convoluted, overdesigned and incoherent. A truly modern version of wow was necessary.
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>>581880194
What happened to Mages?
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>>581881941
nope, I'm calling retards that argue in bad faith like you retards. here's your (You) on the house
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>>581881556
Not even in retail
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good news /wowfg/ there is now OLYMPUS GAY, even you have a spot now
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>>581881745
this is what my chudai orc sees when he casts rockbiter on his thick 2hander
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>>581882005
>The very fact that Era, being a literal dead frozen in time server, still has an active playerbase, is a testament to just how good it is.
Retail has a playerbase too. That metric means literally nothing.
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>>581882003
camping gives you 10k xp every hour at upper levels
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>30 y/o
>virgin
>$0 bank account

what race and class am I?
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>>581882112
Human paladin
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>>581882112
Welcome to the fray, my fellow Night Elf Druid(female)
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>>581882112
Orc Warrior.
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>>581882103
I am dead fucking serious dude you need to kill yourself.
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>>581882005
bro there's like 2 guilds playing era don't kid yourself
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>RoL quests give more exp than WC quests despite WC being a higher level than RoL
>for some reason every RoL quest is 22 despite the highest level mob being 20
this has to be a bug
doing RoL doesn't take very long and it's 2.5 levels
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>Trying to cover for the author that fucked up
SHUT IT DOWN
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>>581882179
still 2 more guilds than SoD has
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>ctrl+f "toggle"
>0 results
what the fuck
not my /wowfg/
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>>581881887
Good news, faggot: There's going to be an immensity of Paladins now that the don't suck ass. And Druids are far better at tanking now as well. So your desperate, retarded cope is totally irrelevant to Forever.
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>>581882112
gnome priest, holy.
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Anyone doing fun stuff on the beta? Like pacifist/fishing only, other dumb things like that?
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>>581881875
wow... do you really mean it... haha...
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who is going to be the villain of forever
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>>581882201
Why can't they just delete the article instead of this tomfoolery?
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>>581882282
ad clicks
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>>581882278
retail content creators/refugees.
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>>581882250
you dont actually care you just wanted to post your goonslop
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>>581882103
>10k xp every hour at upper levels
So a maximum of 1.05% from minmax camping. Hardly 3x is it you retard?
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>>581882278
/wpsg/ spamming /wowfg/ naturaly.
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>>581881728
>Nelves can sail right to Southshore
>humans can port to Dalaran
Hillsbrad is basically an alliance zone now. Noshoes keep walking.
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>>581882278
some made up chud
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>>581882112
Angloid mystery meat living in his parents house playing undead rogue or white human male paladin with helmet graphics turned on
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>>581881861
>Asmongold is like Joshua leading an army 100k strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NX2I-2WGDE
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>>581882282
because you slobs keep clicking it and giving them views (money). You people are just nigger cattle I swear
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>>581882256
a fellow sensei...world of warcraft would be 10x better if they added Kivotos as a zone
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>>581882045
AoE nerfs, but they're still going to be good for all the non-AoE reasons mages were already good for.
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did the servers just blow up again
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>>581882278
onyxia, who will survive and go back into hiding after onyxia's lair
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>>581881341
>tell
Is this a xiv thing?
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>>581882278
the playerbase
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>>581882278
The enemies we made along the way
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What I want -
More grounded foes, no fucking retarded Titanshit.
Old Gods that are in the style of C'thun and Yogg, the way the others like N'zoth were introduced meant they were retailified, aka dogshit. I would happily welcome another telling and showing of N'zoth in a less retarded way.

I want things to revolve around the Naga, Furbolgs, Demons, Dragons, Scourge, Centaurs, Quilboar, Ogres, Worgen, Twilight Hammer (and other factions) and the Silithid.
That sort of thing. None of these are outlandish. They're all reigned in and familiar. They all have plenty of room to be expanded upon too.
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>>581882343
>humans can port to Dalaran
Huh? You mean mages
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>>581882328
I do care but I also did want to post the goonslop yeah. I was thinking of starting up an UD pally to try to solo the new Undercity dungeon or something. I wonder what class would be best suited for that.
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>>581882330
Not the same anon just dropping trvkes
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>>581882412
>onyxia escapes
>onyxia's layer
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>>581881479
Ironically, #nochanges Classic Andy players are guilty of the same shit that they accuse Retail players of - making selfish, unreasonable demands that cater to their specific sensibilities. We know the logical conclusion of Classic's (not vanilla's) design philosophy; we know it twice over, in fact. No one wants Forever to be Classic 3: raids of 30 fury warriors and dual wield fury warrior tanks huffing raid buffs from their chronoboon displacers to clear trivial, 20 year-old content.

The nice thing about Forever is that it can actually be changed, as long as the feedback is worth listening to. I ultimately trust Classic players less than I trust nu-Blizzard, which is saying something. There will be good feedback from both Classic and Retail players, but it will be buried beneath so much garbage.
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>>581882256
Yeah but I already play a healer so you're banned from that role.
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>>581882256
>>581882392
/bag/gots
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>>581882278
blizzard entertainment
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>>581881789
>my dumb racist name got me banned!!! Forever is OVER!! ...STOP HAVING FUN
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>>581881887
>and no utility.

>sunder
>pummel/bash
>demo shout
>tclap attack speed debuff
>aoe slow
>only reliable crush immunity
>disarm
>aoe fear
>MS
>taunt + shield wall, any warrior is an emergency tank


But yeah they have no utility so they totally have to always and forever be top dps.
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>>581881149
>they want OSRS players
Retoilet trannies better hope that isn't the case
Runescape players thrive on tedium and long inconvenient grind
If they wanted to appeal to that crowd they'd make you rp walk everywhere and it would take more xp to get from 59 to 60 than 1 to 59
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>>581882475
What do you think PST stands for?
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I'm sorry I didn't make this clear. I was very upset. How do I tank as a level 15 Paladin?
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askers?
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>>581882603
please send tits
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>>581882250
Can you even get to lvl 60 only with fishing? Pacifist works easy if you have a group who does the killing
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>>581882634
You attack things and use seal of fury
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/wowfg/ is it true that if I'm feeling overwhelmed, that's okay too?
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>>581882507
can you fuck off back to /wpsg/? im 100% sure there are some brown negro 3rd worlders that will think you look amazing overthere.
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Pick a Good tier class or above if you want a spot in WoW Forever raids.

God Tier:
>Paladin

Great Tier:
>Druid
>Shaman
>Priest

Good Tier:
>Warlock
>Mage

Dumpster Tier:
>Warrior
>Hunter
>Rogue
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>>581882603
please send toes
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>>581882278
Skyborne Elves.
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dont exit game to fix the lag, stuck on retrieving character list now
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>>581882634
You don't.
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>>581881149
He's right... we need flying mounts bros
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>>581882371
I meant to say 600k strong because that's how many fighting aged Israelites there were. The largest army in human history
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>>581882705
They're probably just gonna restart the servers again
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>>581882680
What about when there's more than 1 enemy? How can I use a ten second taunt on TWO enemies?
>>581882718
I'm starting to understand what you're saying.
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>>581882692
>pick the same class 50% of the playerbase will play if you want a raid spot
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>>581882603
Pacific succy time?
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>>581882603
pussy sex tits
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PVP alliance server is dead.
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>>581882529
>trivial, 20 year-old content.
This is a point of concern for me. If all new raids are legitimately designed to be as easy as the old ones, even average guilds are going to absolutely curbstomp them an have them on farm in two weeks. They don't need to be retail hard, but they need to be meaningfully more difficult than Classic raids to prevent people from quitting the game en masse.
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>>581880930
Jesus, I'll just make a PVP character.

Damn did the Roach King blow up the server again?
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>>581882634
righteous fury
consecrate
taunt (judgement)
is not difficult big man
don't have one of those? take the 30 mins to level to 20 and get them to save yourself the headache
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>>581882692
I'm not gonna play pooever because I'll be having too much fun in aion 2, but if I were to play I'd play undead paladin or orc enhancement and be forever requested in raids
it's just so fucking lame that they didn't add more classes to forever, it could have been an actual fun game but it'll be solved in less than 2 months because blizzard sucks massive dick
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>>581882692
Alliance shamans will have the easiest raid invites. People will suck your dick to join their raid.
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>>581879909
It's just a beta guild, come fag it up.
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You will all eventually get curious and try the real thing, the real experience… retail :)
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>exp required to go from 1 to 60 has been reduced by 26%
>leveling through 15 to 30 is 40% less exp than before
This is why dungeon quest exp seems so broken, the whole exp per level is far too low
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>>581882634
The same way you tank as any class before you get your full toolkit, you don't and it's fine. You walk into RFC and be the first one to attack a mob, you get shit pulled off of you and it attacks the other guy, and none of that matters because it's fucking RFC and 2 mobs running around hitting someone doesn't matter.
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Today I learned about the SoD sleeping bag quest chain, which gives a permanent +3% XP gain as long as you nap every 2 hours. What a terribly designed quest chain, there’s no marker on the map, and the instructions are vagueposting useless directions. I tried to engage with the game and do it the flavorful way by asking in Barrens chat which directions to take to progress, but everyone just told me to look up a guide online instead of actually telling me where to go. The whole trip is Barrens -> Westfall -> Stonetalon -> Loch Modan -> Arathi Highlands, in a remote 'secret' location every time. The only redeeming quality is the “parkour” section in Arathi Highlands. There were both Alliance and Horde trying to overcome the obby and no one attacked each other, it was very #wholesome. I won’t be doing this quest on official release, given how much of a waste of time it is to go to Westfall and Loch Modan as Horde. It feels more like an Alliance quest chain than anything. Best case scenario they take this out of the game because it's stupid.
>>581880469
I'm not a fag
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>>581882658
That goes entirely against the point of playing pacifist if you just have another player do the killing what kind of method is that??
The idea with fishing is you only use gear you get from fishing I think.
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please let forever kill retail and classic
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>>581882370
>mystery meat living in his parents house playing undead rogue
clocked me
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>>581882805
Yes, the roach king always causes that
>>581880930
So no LS guild yet? shame
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>>581882486
i find it funny that they explicitly said
>we're going back to small-scale stories that belong in vanilla Azeroth
and everyone's immediate response to this was
>hey guys, guess who's ALIVE in Forever?
>KAEL'THAS
>ILLIDAN
>ARTHAS
What the fuck is wrong with people? We should be specifically avoiding these large-scale, expansion-sized stories that Forever probably doesn't even have the resources to do well.
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>>581882730
>Jews when they try to stop exaggerating about the stone ages for just one second
Why are they like this?
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>>581882603
It's onomatopoeia for when you whisper like: "pst, hey, over here"
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>>581882805
>Damn did the Roach King blow up the server again?
It's even worse this time around.
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New raids should be as hard as Naxx is. Any raids that are harder than Naxx can be categorized thusly as DoubleNaxx and so on.
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>he payed 60 dollars to beta test
>>
I'm concerned about the class distribution, it's fucking dogshit. Hopefully just beta test things and people will be on their mains for the actual launch but there's just way way too many paladins, druids and shamans. You'll notice it's all the hybrids right there whereas pure classes like rogue, mage are very low populated with only the huntard being popular.
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>>581882018
No, a "truly modern" version of WoW is not possible because it would pander to subhuman zoomoids.

I once again reiterate: retail exists. Go play that. And preferably stay there. it was made for you lot.
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>>581882765
>How can I use a ten second taunt on TWO enemies?
you let the dps tank the one they're all bursting down because one single mob in deadmines won't kill them and it will die soon anyways
or you stun it
or you bop him
read your spells and ponder how you may use them in which situations
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>>581882860
dunno how to feel about this
I like to complete a lot of quests in one zone and go to another
I imagine I'll always be a little overleveled? and this isnt even counting the giga Dungeon Quests xp
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>>581882658
>Pacifist works easy if you have a group who does the killing
Thats a jew playthrough, not pacifist
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>>581882874
classic is cooked
retail has boomers too attached to their collections to let it go
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Please for the love of God Blizzard, kick Asmon off the PVP server and give him a private server or something.
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yeah I paid 60 dollaroos
yeah the max level I go to was 3
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>>581882692
>God Tier:
>>Paladin
Pinkies are in for a shock when Ret Paladin gets worse and worse the closer to 60 they get.

>>581882860
You've fallen for fake wowhead news, read the fucking thread.
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>>581882692
is it just me or does ret and prot paladin look extremely mid? I'd rather play any other class.
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>>581882860
No wonder I felt like they should reduce exp gains by 30%
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>>581882841
They are working on a new class but couldn't announce it at Blizzcon because the #NoChanges chuds would commit suicide en masse
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Did the server lag out?
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>>581883003
>nigger posting
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>>581882634
>no Righteous Fury
>no Consecrate
You're entirely reliant on your auto attack to hold aggro, and your Seal of Fury to taunt if one gets away.
You'll have to have your group let you get a few swings in on every pull, or your're fucked.
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Bros I wanna play warlock but I don't want to be a summonbitch
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its over they're shutting down the server
everyone back to retail, joke's over
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>>581883002
did Asmon rape the servers or something
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>>581882486
>Old Gods that are in the style of C'thun and Yogg, the way the others like N'zoth were introduced meant they were retailified, aka dogshit.
i am not shitposting or baiting at all when i ask: how is yogg not "retailified" via your telling/definition?

i dont even know what retail means in this context anymore, because the way you put it shouldnt he fit the mold? Ulduar was as high-stakes and over the top fantasy as you can really get.
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>>581882963
>You'll notice it's all the hybrids
95% of all paladins and shaman are just playing dps. They're never going to bother to tank or put on the dress.
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>>581883067
Alliance side here, I havent been able to do shit in 4 mins.
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>>581882872
>That goes entirely against the point of playing pacifist if you just have another player do the killing what kind of method is that??
That's actually exactly fitting for a pacifist. You're against violence but you can't do anything against your teammates killing enemies because you can't hurt them
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>>581882864
>Today I learn ... I'm... a fag
What took you so long?
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stuck on retrieving character list

nice "restart" fix blizz
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>>581882860
No it hasn't you faggot. It's the same numbers as currently on classic right now you can load it up and look
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>>581882278
Xalatath.
They already set her up in SoD.
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>>581883110
It's a mage that trades damage for utility, what else do you expect?
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>>581882860
>he fell for it
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>>581883110
you will farm the soulshards
you will ask if anyone needs summons
you will beg everyone around you to click the portal
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>>581882912
they can add kael and illidan without needing a huge story narrative focused around them.
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>>581883002
If this shit is breaking with just him the game won't make it on launch.
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>>581883145
He just ran through Elwynn Forest with 200+ followers. He needs to be kicked off. If he's ever in SW good luck with anything.
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anyone else not able to log in?
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>>581882392
world of warcraft would be 100x better if I could play with my wife, Aris Tendou
>>581882547
I really want to play a melee class and I've been bouncing between enhance shaman, swords rogue, or fury warrior
>>581882563
UHNGH-! *dies*
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>>581882803
you niggas need to ralize that hard content does not retain a playerbase, hard does not equal fun, wow should be the equivialt of a country club where you just go and chill and undwind with the boyz after work, nobody needs wow retail mythic autism raids to have fun
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>>581883110
too bad
you can't say "I don't wanna summon" because it will make you look like a cunt and you'll get kicked from groups
all warlocks are doomed to be summonsissies
>pls click the summon portal
will be you, ad nauseam
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>>581883190
Bodied that freakazoid
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>>581882912
>doesn't even have the resources to do well.
The problem isnt ressources unless youre american and meant human ressources because original wow team was like a dozen fat white nerds just banging out kino content
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>>581883229
>It's the same numbers as currently on classic
What about vanilla?
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what class does a 33-year old homosexual irish-scottish american male play
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they cut me off
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>>581883212
same
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they took my legs doc
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>>581883241
in what direction is the trade
lock got less damage and less utility than mage
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>>581883380
Warlock
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>>581883380
paladin
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>>581883380
>homosexual
druid
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>>581883373
same numbers, just google it
The author was a shithead who didn't actually look but wanted a gotcha
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>>581882912
Yeah it's not like there was a whole plotline about one of Deathwing's kids actively working on undermining the kingdom of Stormwind, or delving into the capital of the entire Dark Iron dwarves and eventually slaying the elemental lord of fire himself. Or working on putting an end to an Old God that woke up.
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>>581883338
too many burgers logging in, us euro poors are suffering for it
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WoW players really did delude themselves into thinking they wanted "hard" content and now look at the state of retail and MMOs in general.
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I'm standing on the road, can't do anything. Restart fucked everything upo.
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>>581883380
bottom? any healer except shaman
top? rogue or hunter
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>>581883241
>>581883273
>>581883353
Just go there then go afk
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Undead won
Sex elves won
Hybrids won
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>>581883450
Well clearly the author pulled the numbers from somewhere, where is that?
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>>581883426
Summoning from anywhere and giving free temporary health pots>food and drink and portals to specific places. Ez
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>they didn't turn the shadow hold into a dungeon or raid
The main Horde storyline in Classic remains unsatisfying compared to the main Alliance storyline.
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Warlocks should be able to Enslave the soul of another player as a summon by using a spell on their corpse. It'll behave as a pet but have the body and name of a player. Call it Possession or something.
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Warrior and Hunters are currently the top dps in simulations.
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>>581882698
That would be kino.
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>>581883457
only thing i really hate about retail is the expansion rape and disjointness you feel
and because of that it makes the story much worse plus impossible to start as a new player
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>>581883570
he pulled it from legion lmao
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>>581883352
I hope they fuck up the new raid balancing and there's another pug breaker like the 2nd last boss in BFD.
DUST TO DUST
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>>581883110
retail tried to solve this with the closet but i think thats too much for Forever. Maybe warlocks just need to stay as summonsissies.
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Nice servers wowbabs ;)
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>>581881479
Does anyone else's mind get invaded with an image of this anon typing this out while sucking on two black colored furry shit logs in retail
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>>581882874
Retail will always stick around as a zombie game for mazies to grind rating for a season then get bored until next season.

Classic is kinda fucked, especially if they don't keep going after MoP.
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>>581883352
imo, 10 mans should be the hardest pve content, but still no more difficult than a normal mode wotlk 10 man. 40 mans should solely be puggable content existing for spectacle more than anything. Much like a pve version of AV, a battleground where there is no real coordination or objective just 40 players a side smashing into each other enjoying the carnage.

A boss equivalent to 10 man normal mode Lich King should be the absolute hardest raid content in the game.
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>>581883556
Your own fault for playing with roachman. Pick your server wisely next time.
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smol indie company (run by indians)
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>>581883570
Legion somehow - compare the xp levels to wowhead
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Experience_to_level
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>>581883457
I don't want /hard/ content but I do want /group/ content.
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>>581882547
You already play a healer? Maybe you should be my in-game gf(male)
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nora milkers
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>status: castatrophic crash
What the fuck does this mean?
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>>581882919
its true though
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What's the point of the quest markers toggle if all the new quests are designed around having quest markers enabled?

>Old quest: Go to X location, in Y direction from here. Look for this landmark and gather the materials, then bring them back to Wilhelm at Z to the east; you'll find him in the inn.
>New quest: Go to X location and get the materials. Give them to Glup Shitto.
Where the fuck is X? Who and where the fuck is Glup Shitto? I dunno, you'll never know unless you turn on the quest markers. So it's not really an optional classic experience, is it? What's the fucking point of making it "optional"
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playing warlock will be a constant humiliation ritual
play shaman instead, especially if you're alliance
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bwooos!!!!!!!!!
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>>581883380
>irish-scottish american
lomao, fucking burgers man....
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>>581883727
It means it's over.
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>>581883656
>the closet
the what?
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>>581883723
>_> .....
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>>581883560
Imagine playing horde, enjoy your pink dps playerbase
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>>581883560
slopborne will be lower on release
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Would you be okay with BLizzard making a streamer server?
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no one in here is complaining about servers being down. or asking if they are.

none of you actually play this game. it's just pserfs vs poors in a constant flame war holy shit. i need to get out of here
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>>581882278
If Blizzard isn't fucking retarded, the Burning Legion.
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>>581883762
>the scottish irish american in question
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I played Shaman on TBC anniversary. What should I play in forever?
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>>581883762
their entire history and culture is a made-up theme park anon, have some mercy on them
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>>581883679
Im on horde PVE!
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>>581882963
Dwarf shaman and undead paladin are going to be the new hotness and the already strong paladin shaman distribution WILL grow

I'm a rogue main and even I plan on going dwarf shaman for something new. I ain't changin cuz "distribution" or w/e
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>>581883051
it's not even that they're "bad" in terms of numbers. It's that the utility doesnt stack
50% of the server being pinks and they have no overlapping utility. majority of them will have to heal just like in vanilla because ret ain't going to be doing great dps.
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>>581883846
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/88/Demoman_battlecry06.wav
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>>581883592
What does shadow hold have to do with the horde
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>>581883560
Why are undead so popular anyway? It's not just paladins because undead were the most popular horde race in og vanilla too. They don't fit the conventions of the most popular races, they are ugly as fuck hunchbacks which is why the other horde races are unpopular, but somehow people accept that on undead.
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>>581883762
mom's side is scottish, dad's side is irish
their familes came 1900s
sounds legit to me
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>unable to retrive character list
WTF happened?
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>>581883846
umm ever heard of shaquille o'neal sweaty? check and mate
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>>581883762
>the american who can trace his ancestry to ireland isn't irish but this paki is, am i right fellow europeans?
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So if I want to grind low level dungeons, is paladin or warlock gonna be better?
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>>581883560
>horde is nothing but undead paladins and blue elves
OH NO NO NO
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>>581883556
because azzy mcasmongold decided to have all of his chat buddies come on and destroy the server.
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>>581883923
undead are the coolest race by far and they have busted racials just like gnomes
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>>581883923
they're just like me fr fr
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>>581883792
calm down coray, you'll get your blue elf cunny later mr.
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>>581883850
im always a shaman i just like the qol they get particularly ghost wolf now and astral recall. its more like sod and wotlk healing though its still mostly chain heal spam its exactly like sod healing actually as far as i can tell
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>>581883380
Rogue, hunter, or warrior
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>>581883960
pooever already EoS, thanks for the 60 bucks, chuddie *dabs*
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>>581883110
Just don't do it then.
Although you will be shunned for not doing so, but it is an option. You can just tell people no.
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My streamer can't login, are the servers down?
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>>581883994
Wait until they add High Elves like the lead dev hinted at soon. It's gonna be a bloodbath.
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WoW forever ideas:

- WoW Token
- XP boosts via Ingame shop
- Profession boosts
- LFR
- Warmode
- Dungeon+ (Timed dungeons with extra rewards based on completion time)

Thoughts?
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>>581883827
>Instead of factions you pledge yourself to a streamer and battle in their name
ludokino...
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how does plate look on undead? they don't turn into shorts, right...?
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>>581883745
Why? Warlock is based
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>>581881149
All I see when I read this is Towellie's fat fucking head being hit between the eyes with a spear
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>>581883923
they look cool
GOATED animations fr fr, male and female
racial game is fire
what's not to buss over??
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>>581883994
but i see so many fast movin cows in moonglade
makes me jealous of their long, swift strides :(
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The quests at the new Undead Paladin zone quite often refer to the place by different names
Tyr's Hand(doesn't exist anymore), Bandarion Keep(The actual name), and Banderon Keep(during the npc talk with the argent dawn undead guy)
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>>581883827
sure, then they just need to add one for women, jews, and non-whites and we can finally enjoy the game
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>>581883923
cool + spooky + sexy leader
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>>581884060
Sounds like ascension
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>>581883891
Then it's truly owari
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My dad's side of the family got here in the very early 1700s, youre all swarthy immigrants compared to me
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>>581883923
undead are the human of horde, orcs and elves are monsters only furries and other types of maladjusted people like
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They should still increase the amount of exp needed to level, dungeon quests are letting you skip whole zones
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>>581883915
The horde equivalent of Deadmines is RFC. RFC establishes the Shadow Council as a big, recurring enemy for the Horde. You'd assume that means a second dungeon, like Stockades, and then a big fight at endgame like Onyxia (the puppet master of the Defias revolt, along with all of the other problems facing Stormwind). Nope.
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>>581884034
I'm holding my breath on Touch of the Grave until release day. They're clearly tuning it. Gnome racials are busted no matter what though unless they change them entirely
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Straight male classes:
>Warrior
>Rogue
>Warlock
>Hunter

Gay male/female/tranny classes:
>Paladin
>Priest
>Druid
>Shaman
>Mage
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>join group as healer
>3 paladins
>"we still need a tank"
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>>581883827
Only if it's mandatory for streamers of a certain size who intend to stream the game.
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I would play female ogre for the same reason why i play female taurens. I feel bad for nobody picking them.
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>>581884210
>dungeon quests are letting you skip whole zones
Good. Fuck Desolace.
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>>581883960
Asmongold brought the server to its knees, thousands of people were in SW. Plus I heard there was a DDOS
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it's over
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>>581884102
then at 30 you get travel form and plainsrunning is a forgotten memory
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>>581883051
Prot paladin looks good but doesn't necessarily look game breaking good as warrior. I wouldn't be shocked if it's "the best tank" in a sort of boring 20% better mitigation way. The one thing I could see (which we have no way of knowing) is + spell gear ends up being broken as fuck and prot paladin just shits out damage like crazy.
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I cracked open a perfectly good beer for this?!
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>>581884298
i concede
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>>581882658
>>Can you even get to lvl 60 only with fishing?
No, on Vanilla gathering gives no exp, that's a retoilet onry feature
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>>581884276
Too attractive to be ogres and I mean this genuinely.
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>>581884318
does it not stay active with their other forms?
figured it would since racials work fine
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>>581884276
they're fucking huge
what I wouldn't give to drown in them
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>>581883850
Another Shaman. Shaman are fucking awesome.
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I just ate 4 edibles and now I can't even play.

Fucking wasted.
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>>581883923
Are you stupid?
Did you not see how hard they got marketed at Blizzcon?
>Big moneyshot reveal in the trailer, only race featured besides the dwarf and $30 elf
>Got an entire wc3 campaign made to justify their existence including a new neutral hero
>ANOTHER moneyshot in the ingame trailer
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>>581884298
>blizzard reached out to wowhead and told them to stop being retarded
lmao
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>>581883781
warlocks can just cast a spell to summon a giant gateway with the help of 2 other players. Once it's up, you can just use this gateway as a summon stone for as many people as you need until it disappears.
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>>581884249
thats nice anon
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>>581884403
it doesn't stack with anything, cheetah mogs it and that's at what? 20?
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>>581884298
Hahahaha imagine reading this fucking website
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Race and Class I plan to play. Lemme hear yours.
>Dwarf Warrior
>Dwarf Rogue
>Dwarf Shaman
>Dwarf Priest
>Dwarf Hunter
>Nelf Druid
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>>581883989
You mean at max level, or while leveling?
Paladin will fill groups easier, and have an easier time soloing most low level content at max level.
Unless they went and fixed the reset points, Warlock will be able to clear most dungeons solo at max level.
Being a portal jockey at low level will only get you so far; you're going to be competing against mages, and priests.
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>>581884501
cheetah is 30
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>>581884298
LMAO they run the numbers through some AI slop that shat out the wrong answer HAHAHAHA
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LET ME IN!!!
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>try and drop the log
>i cant wait
MONEY STOLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>581884381
people forget this but ogres are japanese oni-coded so female ogres would be really beautiful busty giant girls actually
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fuck asmongold and his army of retards
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>>581883909
They're bad. At least warriors, druids and shaman are needed 1 per group. 3 holy paladins cover the entire raid's needs.
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>>581884298
>After reviewing the values in the table, as well as Blizzard reaching out regarding this article, we can confirm that there are no changes to the experience amounts required to level in WoW Forever
KWAB, even Blizzard panic reached out
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THE SOULFLAYER COMES!
HAKKAR WILL LIVE AGAIN!
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>>581884210
no theyre not you fat fucking retard. holy shit people keep repeating this like it's real
>DOOD U SKIP EVERY LEVEL 10-20 AND YOU GET 7 BLUES EACH RUN
pserf or cattle take your pick
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>>581884034
>>581884442

I see
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>>581883859
You're just mad we have cowboys and you're an irrelevant slavshit.
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>>581883827
Machamps are cool!

streamer server would be good if it were RP-PVP but too many streamers complain about getting stream sniped and ganked / camped
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>>581883923
edgy satanic antifa faggots
that's why
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What's the deal with leveling? I mean you go out, you grind for a level, then have to do it all over again! Nobody has time for that! *sips Diet Coke*
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>>581884587
hahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>581884536
>Aspect of the Cheetah is a level 20 Hunter ability in Classic World of Warcraft that increases movement speed by 30%
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my bros are forcing me to be alliance in this game so
>dwarf enhancement shaman
>human lock
>human paladin
which of these would u pick
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>>581884494
that's cool, i could see this being tweaked a bit to work in forever
maybe you need a BoP drop from a raid or something
seems like they want utility upgrades alongside power upgrades and that would be a good choice
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>>581884587
hopefully the intern who pushed that article out was taken out back and dealt with
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>>581884587
>values found via datamining
>hey dude, I'm leveling quicker, think it's because of the more quests?
>nah, totally reduced xp, ask chatgpt
>spits out legion xp with no source
>rushes to post
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>>581883110
just make sure your guild as 2+ other warlocks, and use them to summon instead.
can't help you with dungeons.
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>>581884514
New dwarf models with the beard flying around as your character moves and shit looks great, can't believe the grognards were against this
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>>581883579
You also forgot the sovlstone (bres)
>>
just tried to login, what happened?
>>
is it down? its annoying cuz it claims to be up but then you get stuck on the retrieving character list
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>>581884294
10s of thousands of people that sucked his cock is in SW. And the people that hated him is DDOSing the server since they don't game.
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>>581884679
maybe he means travel form for druids?
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>>581884382
Fake Sylvanas.
Real Sylvanas is being held prisoner by the jailer.
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>>581884756
>>581884763
Was just about to ask the same thing
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>>581884679
hunters aren't in moonglade, silly
still a bit of a shame it doesn't stack at least diminishingly, that would've been funny
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>>581884587
>doomjeets frantically looking for a new grift to spam the threads with
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>>581883338
wow is kill
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>>581884193
>elves
>furries
only nelves. blood elves are aryans.
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>>581884587
any of you other old farts remember when publishing for a large paper/newsletter had some prestige and you fact checked like crazy before publishing anything.

how things have fallen. 80-90iq hit the scroll down retards have ruined so many things
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>>581884514
>Nelf druid
>Nelf rogue
>Nelf hunter
>Human paladin
>Troll shaman
>Undead priest
Horde chars maybe in pvp since my friends would prefer that, but I'm not sold on the idea of never being able to level an alt without some 60 retard camping me.
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Undead
Female
Paladin
Holy
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>>581884514
Dwarf Prot Pala (as always)
Nelf Marksman hunter
and MAYBE Tauren Shaman (if they remove the PvP ruleset restriction)
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>>581883236
probably right? shadow figure wasnt used much besides gear
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>>581884786
>>581884807
ok but in my first reply in the chain I spoke of travel form at 30, I was providing another example of plainsrunning getting mogged
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>>581884587
lol.
lmao!
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druid is the only class i enjoy. every time ive played wow, ive regretted not having 2 druids so this time i will be making 2 (cat and boomie)
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>>581884382
cairne alive + thrall/sylvanas not being enshittified is the best part of this for me, a wc3 lore nerd
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The only reason im playing on WoW Forever because i am intimidated and overstimulated by new things. I dont want new thing, i dont want to improve, i dont want harder PvE, i want Classic WoW with some flavors.
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>>581883846
Looks like he just got off the boat from Scotland.
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Blue Elves are cool.
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>>581884298
>we have always been at war with Eastasia
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>>581883728
Who told you that, Mike Fart?
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>>581884485
But like I said, undead have always been popular from the very beginning long before blizzcon 2026. They are ugly as sin by any measure, their zones and cities are gross run down shitholes, their aesthetic and character is evil as fuck. All of these things are normally repellent to players which is why people don't play trolls, and don't play warlocks.

Do undead just absorb all of the minority of people that do like those things as opposed to the majority that prefer attractive good guys being distributed among humans and elves?
>>
Forever needs goblins.
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>surprised server maintenence
Post your lodestones.
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>>581884905
yeah but that's just the direct comparison
I'm saying that since racials are usable in shapeshifts now they should at least let this be usable in some way even if it has diminishing returns to not "mog" a mount when it ramps to full
other races with movement bonuses like nelf/skelf can have their slight movement speed increase in forms right?
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>>581884514
Gnome Rogue
Human Priest
Human Walock
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I'm going to play a tank warlock. I will be the only one in the whole server. If you see one you will know it's me.
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>>581884973
skeletons look cool
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>>581884587
Imagine being one of the Forlo devs and seeing the fucking pint from WoWhead saying you raped and gaped the leveling curve using comparison tables from fucking LEGION, I would personally drop a plane on top of their server farm.
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>>581884875
>useless racials for healer
lol
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>>581884587
kek
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>>581885016
good job with the model. what's the chest armor and leg?
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>>581884602
People have been posting about getting over a level per dungeon in the level 15 to 20 range
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>>581885051
shut up and summon me, sissy
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>brownies are gonna be useless and-ACCCCCCK!
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>>581884949
I actually played a Bluey Rogue for the beta, the leveling zone was pretty alright (except the last quest, to fucking retail-y with a literal god appearing at level 13)
if they had a proper AD model I wouldn't mind them at all.... but they don't so I hate 'em
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>>581884298
GROK HOW COULD YOU BETRAY ME!!!
>>
Brave HEROES of the realm march on the wicked undead's lair to reclaim their holy land of Lordareon.
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>>581885106
IDK the game is dead.
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>>581884973
undead are proof that a cool but ugly race backed up by cool lore can be just as successful as a beautiful perfect elf race, we just haven't been allowed to prove this in practice for the last 22 years
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>>581884587
They just took down the servers to hotfix the values
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>>581884949
t. faggot
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Do we know yet if Plains Running will work in forms yet? Like Shaman's Spirit Wolf or Druid's anything?
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>>581885002
TRVKE
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>>581884514
Undead Warrior
Skelf Shaman
Troll Warlock
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>>581884210
me when i lie and my skin is brown
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>>581885134
rage normalization really fucks warriors
not even getting extra rage from crits feels awful
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>>581885002
This is so gross i have told the president to bomb your clearly black ass.
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>>581885112
people have been posting?? that's your source???
i did hall of thanes at level 16 fresh ding yesterday and barely got over 1 level and 3 blues with one of them being a drop from the boss. this shit is retarded you are not only using dungeons to level
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>its true retail has the same memory leak

uh bros im not feeling too good about forever...
i dont want to hang out in a capital city where my fps drops even when its empty
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Just like to point out the reason that the blue elf retail tranny janny pornsick slop spam stoppted is because it was found out it's coming from a pedophile namefag called Gardener who posts child porn on /b/ in one of their generals
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>>581885047
I believe so. Honestly they need to rework dwarves and tauren. Make plainsrunning an actual mount stance like on turtle and give them another passive
give them a bull rush attack or something
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>>581885135
SD*
too angry to spell rn
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>>581884973
undead zones are so cool and it's a shame only the alliance is going to get gilneas with its spooky gothic architecture
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>>581885142
Was this the asmon raid? Because they got wiped the instant the reached the entrance.
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*retrieves your character list*
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do I stay true to classic and say no to trasmogs or turn them on so I can look at the whores who dress up
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Oh it was Aggrend that reached out in response to some meek sperg trying to bitch him out on twitter kek
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>>581885120
what are the chances it was vibe-coded?
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>>581885157
but is lore appreciation actually the reason? I mean how many people even know the forsaken lore? I would guess a very small number. And even if they do, would your average person really have a disproportionate appreciation for that lore? I mean they are basically just undead that happened to wake up from mind control and set up shop in their sewer shithole, not exactly the most compelling story of all time.
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>>581885134
>frost gutted
based, hopefully the nigger parsers fucks off to a different class
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>>581885323
KEK
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>wowheaders rn
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>>581884514
(Female) Human Paladin
(Female) Human Hunter
(Female) Smurf Mage
(Male) Orc Mage

>>581885002
Wood
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>>581885323
>You're right to push back on this
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>>581884514
Female Skelf Druid
Male Troll Shaman or Lock maybe
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>>581885323
candie chud absolutely btfo and turned into a coward. many such cases
same shit happened with the dude getting banned for his name yesterday. why do they turn into a complete bitch after.
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>>581885323
LMFAO
Wowhead more like wowdead
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>>581885256
So you agree you can get over a level from doing one dungeon with the quests, there are several dungeons in the 15 to 20 range that you can do to skip all questing in that level range
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>>581885193
afaik it doesn't stack with any movement boosts
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>>581885193
Literally just try it you faggot. And yes it works so cool for bear but does nothing for cat or travel form
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>>581885323
>why did you nerf the exp? the game is too fast!!!
>we did no such thing, its same as era
>well its still too fast!!!! grrrr!!!!!!
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>>581884514
It will probably suck ass, but i want to make a Tauren Shaman with tank build that just runs around with plainsrunning and spam frost shock.
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I just got in
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>>581885323
AIEEEEEEEE FORGIVE ME AGGREND-SAMA I COMMIT SEPPUKU
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at risk of being bullied, which healers on classic are fun

i usually heal on retail
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>>581885096
Racials are a meme, got plenty of 99s with my hpal in mop while playing a cow
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guys I am at a loss what class to play, thinking about Hunter-Rogue-Mage-Warlock, would like a class that can farm dungeons solo lategame so I am thinking hunter but man they kinda all look good.....
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Got to pick my character but I can't load into the gaaaaaaaaaaame fuck



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