teams edition>What is Wardogs?A planetside/battlefield/arma/tarkov/squad-like with 3 teams and 100 players, from the developers of such classic and beloved titles as Battlion and KillrunLaunch Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQnZgZCIo810 Reasons Not to Buy Wardogshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkuP4a3xk4Anti-Cheat Infohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YpSHod0FAHelpful Links:https://wardogs.zone/previous>>581778136
>>581917636idk i think you need to specifically discount gear to incentivize your dudes just getting in there, which is probably the number one cause of teams getting omega-gapped. i mean, part of the number one reason. the other part is the only dudes who try to get in there do it alone and die and do not get rez'dmaybe half-off for infantry items only? and give bonuses to activities that are supporting your front-line, like rez'ing and healing and getting kills near infantry (including AS infantry) or what-not. something that's like "hey, are you stupid? lock the fuck in you shouldn't be trailing this hard. go contest the circle or rape their fob you lunatics, get out there and stick together"really though those kinds of bonuses should exist in general. infantry could use more income streams, and fobbits, armor, and birds could use more incentive to directly assist the front line
Since the game is about persistent money, the correct way to correct griefing like this is to make it unprofitable. Nobody will risk an expensive kit to troll over and over.You can't balance this problem by making things cheaper for the underdog because they're fighting established forces with nothing most of the time. You need to break up the camping behavior by making it inefficient and risky
That was close x2
>>581918171If you make kits cheaper then wouldnt more people just buy snipers and sit in a bush, because those are the most expensive guns by far. They need to balance it in a way that pushes the third place team into action. Bonus HZ money would be good, to get people rushing the point, but bonus CZ money would just lead to even more Fobbiting. So its a very delicate balance.
>>581918846300% for the last-place team for killing enemies who're in the leading team. hire me.
>>581918902>incentivized to always be in last place and just fobbit mortar farm 3x value kills
>>581918963Cash has to be per match, this is the only solution
Armor/helmets should be removed entirely.
>>581919034YOU HAVE A MEANS OF MOTIVATING PLAYERS TO ENGAGE EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT THEM TO
SAARS THE BLOODY CHINESE BENCHODS USED WALLBOT AIMHACKS IN THE DOGS OF WAR GAME!!!DO THE NEEDFUL AND RETURN TO BATTLEFIELD 6 IMMEDIATELY SAARS!!!
Early access status?
>>581918846>maybe half-off for infantry items only?yeah that's what i->oh.whatever definition means cheaper gear for the guys most likely to lose it and be discouraged, that one. those people should have their kits be cheaper. smokes. nades. assault rifles, SMGs, meds, probably armor
Or the vision holders could start by changing hqs positions so blue doesn't get gangbanged every game. Or remove the ability to choose team and switch teams, and fix the system for friends and clans to join together without it being a chore. Or give every team points for showing up, with the lesser teams getting a lesser rate so the 00 points bluetards have a chance or the redittors stop going for second place every round.These cunts have options.
>>581919232it's early and its accessable
>>581919425>and fix the system for friends and clans to join together without it being a chorethey dont want you to know this but if you join a friend through steam you automatically get put on their team and squad regardless of team size
>>581919475Woah... you sure?
oh hey if you haven't tried it yet, the sports parachute is fucking worthlessthat or i did something wrong"oh you can control this one, i wonder if that means it'll be hard to shoot you out of the air" lmfao
>>581919707just pull the cord 1 pixel before hitting the ground dumbass hahaha it's that easy nigga haha how is fall damage even real
>>581919851nigger i KNOWhow am i supposed to evaluate the steerable parachute if i pop it as i touch the ground retardalso>1 pixellarp?
>>581920190relax latinx don't take everything at face value it's called shitposting.anyway if you want my actual experience with the sports chute it makes steering a little easier but honestly popping it at the height it needs for you to see how it works is usually not worth it at all. just buy a basic one and pop it low before the speed bar goes full red or just tell the helislave to land
>>581920459i cannot stand the illiterate please stop replying
>>581920508elaboratate
Just a reminder: If you don't unlock the Golden AK before the season reset, your account is bricked.
>>581920508yeah you really should learn to read
does stance actually affect recoil while shooting or is that fuddlore
>>581920508@grok explain to anon
>>581920858Why are you making these ritual posts?
>>581921028In game definitely yeah.
>>581921095nigga we're the wardogs
IR Thermal Goggles need battery usage to balance out the wallhack.
>>581921028in game, yeah. crouching might be like -10%, prone -30%. don't actually know, just based on vibesIRL? not really, mostly fuddlore
>>581921095I'm attempting to harness the psychic gestalt into making the devs into removing the FOMO
what if instead of wardogs it was warcats and the gold bar cosmetics were kitty ears
>>581920858The devs said the target acquisition rate for the limited skin is about 5% of the games playerbase. Given 2 million sales, that means at least 100,000 people should be able to get the skin within 18 days until the wipe. But given how even nolife ecelebs with a clan full of dicksucks to help them grind arent stacking benjamins like crazy, the devs will clearly have to do something about it.Will they interfere and force the price down or will the skin be exclusive to chinese cashfarmers and exploiters. Time will tell.
>>581921626I simply cannot fathom that it's intended for it to literally see through user buildables. There's so many critical bugs here that I just can't believe that no one picked this shit up.
>>5819233075% of the playerbase are cheating and exploiting, so it works out just fine
>base is secure>spawn vehicle well hidden>hz contested but held>winning>drill activates>for the first time in the history of the game both other teams converge on the base simultaneously>base gets leveled>spawn vehicle found and destroyed>couple of niggers are camping the remnants of the base>couple more are camping the entrance>most of the team sitting dying on the ground with no hope of res>lose
>>581923640I think that's the most interesting thing I've noticed, when people die in their base, even if it's being actively assaulted and they're unlikely to get revived, they just... sit there, and wait.It's happened way too often across way too large of situations for me to say it's a one-off, it's almost every time I participate, enemy teams and my teams. I wonder what causes it. Do they think it's "safe" cause they built walls, ignoring how they probably left gaps or super easily scaled points of entry? Cause 99% of the time that's where enemies get in anyway.
>>581923732I think they just assume help is coming without counting the bodies on the ground to realise it'll only be coming if they all respawn.
>>581923851But even shit like retards sitting on top of tower who get sniped then whine in team chat "REZ MEEEE REZ ME PICK ME UPPP PICK ME UP GET ME", it's like "you got sniped, fucktard, why is anyone going up there when they're pushing us cause we have hz?"It's like there's 0 situational awareness.Not that it matters much anymore, I haven't had any sort of base assault that wasn't just a havoc obliterating us or arty spam since last thursday.
>>581923640>whole squad of corpses behind enemy lines BEGGING for a rez>we're down on manpower all the whilewhy do reddies do this
>>581924061see the op imageimagine the internal life of a gun otaku catgirl with one and a half braincells
Am I just crazy or what? AP seems like it's never worth using. Only at level 4 armor does it seem like it actually does more damage than FMJ, across pretty much all guns, minus maybe snipers cause of their multipliers. Why would anyone spend the money on it?
>spent like 3-4 hours practicing flying heli in firing range>can't land for shit>play the actual game>pick it up in less than an hour ferrying people around cause they mock you if you fuck uphmhow does that work
>>581924484that's how god designed us
>>581923732Some players just don't know what they should do when their base gets raided or what they should be doing after they're taken out. All they know is it means buying a new kit and going infantry, so in their case, an express trip back to the spawn a few time in a row, killing their wallets. They can't survive more than a couple of minutes if not inside a somewhat secured fob. >>581924484Bullying saving the day as usual
>>581924161>girl
>>581924683you can see her hips, retard
>>581924270+ near identical STK on all targets- near identical STK on all targets+ always worth it in 7.62x51/54
>>581924767I don't know what STK isassuming it means anything related to time to kill or damage to target it's wrong though. If someone's using lv1 or lv2 armor your ap is doing less than hp on armor lmao
>>581924748anon-kun........
>>581924829shots to kill, which is generally what matters
>>581924932it's called a vulva. hate all these repressed faggots who see men in everything
>>581924997>
can someone post the video of the killfeed of the kodiak guy killing the entire server?
>>581924997anon...
>>581924943then yeah it's definitely wrong. Let's use the M4 as an example cause plenty of people are running that currently.>AP on naked, center mass24.8>lv120.22>lv218.74>lv315.02>lv428.7And now let's see FMJ>naked30.82>lv119.62>lv218.5>lv313.87>lv410.8So the only place that AP is actually worth it is lv4.In fact you LOSE damage if they're unarmored, which with recoil/sway is a horrible thing to try and risk unless you know your enemies are running lv4 kit. Crazy shit. AP is a complete fucking joke. Nearly the same functionality for an increase in price.
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>>581925410brammerbros? the anticheat?
>>581925396yeah i wasn't agreeing with him just saying what the acronym meant. seems to be only useful on snipers who don't want to get cucked by lv4 helmets, and i guess for if you're hunting down a humvee gunner?actually, what i want to know is, is AP ammo better at just shooting vehicles than FMJ?
When's the last time you pooped /wdg?
>>581925532i eat a banana every day so my poops are regularif i eat some bullshit instead of what i'm supposed to it could delay my poopin 12 hours or so
>>581925515we now require you photoscan your anus to play our gameWe hope our dedicated amazing awesome epic gamer crew fanbase understands!(the cheaters have hacked our anus database and are continuing to play just fine)
>>581925659thank you doomgod. your posts soothe me.
>>581924829>>581925396sorry i meant the "+/- near identical STK" as AP-specific. as in it doesn't matter what armor your target wears, you put a burst or two center mass and they die. not that it's superior in all instances, that's the implication behind the minus part. similar STK on all targets (lvl 3 4 -> :D), similar STK on all targets (lvl 0 1 2 -> D:)
So apparently the secret is to nolife the game, get the endgame guns, then sell them to people at 25% markup not for the upfront profit but because each kill gives you $1000 and support exphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmeRPDnuzbgI'm sure this guy is also getting funneled by his twitch audience.
>>581926539assist xp is absolutely cracked in this gameone of the best designed things in it
>>581925530that actually is true, yes, AP ammo tears through armored vehicles, makes your bullets pierce windows on humvees so you can take out drivers, and damages helis/other vehicles much moreso than FMJ (you're not gonna blow up a heli with your mp5 but, you might be able to ding the tail rotor)
>>581926539worst intro montage of all time
Okay so I'm nearing 30 support, and gonna try to grind out for the nade launcher, but my question before I hard commit to it: does it do decent building damage, or is it like the rpg/maaws where it does less than a handgun?Can I reasonably take out a gate/door with the nade launcher?>>581926932the slop ass AI thumbnail didn't give that away? c'mon bro
>>581926992half the things made by this community is sloppified it slipped my mind
>>581926895might be fun to see how i can terrorize helis with a SAW with AP rounds
>>581896237YesYou also could've simply opened the firing range and checked
I don't mind playing blue but holy shit this is fucking cancer with every high level stacking red and green, I need to try to get in those teams just because I want a different fucking map position once in a whileyou pieces of shit can't NOT help to min-max even a fucking shooting game, 3 teams, lets spread evenly? nah fuck that, green and if you can't get into green, redit's actually astounding how much of a cancer humans are dude, fairplay? fun? what's that? I wanna play on green in a deathball but heaven forbid I play blue once in a while, I am aids incarnate and I will turn this great game design into fucking cancer where nobody wants to play 1/3 identical fucking factionsthis game needs to force distribution into a random team, just like squad, where retards will stack on one team, people are just fucking cancer and refuse to balance the games by themselves even a little bit
>>581926992>does it do decent building damageIt's weird and you should try it in the shooting range.Buy a FOB either from the vendor upstairs from the first vendor (inside the shooting range) or there's one near like a white on the ground, then either build on the white circle next to the vendor and fire nades at it, or move away from spawn (via a vehicle) and build something.In fact, it might not even do building damage at all? Or it takes so many nade rounds that it's impractical?I forget, I just remember C4 and IEDs were your only real choice out of all the things I tested with C4 >>> IEDs
As I unlocked arty, I realized just how much worse the spawn disparity actually is, and green has ENORMOUS benefits on bakurati and ozeti. zesto is pretty balanced, but those other 2 are completely sided to green.You have better angled access and better setup points with flatter ground to ALL of the towers, and things like church you get access to the dedicated entry points. It's so fucking weird how much better it is for green.
Repost from the /vmg/ thread since it's dead.I played this game over the weekend and it was fucking dogshit. If you enter the game even one week into a wipe then you are forced to basically play a turboshit version of Minecraft afking in Squad/PR style superfobs or spotting things. You can't unlock any AT or AA weapons without massive support XP that you can only grind if you're behind the progression curve by afk building, and even then they're shit until even deeper in the tree, meanwhile other players will have attack helicopters, tanks and artillery. You can't level assault for shit because every nolife whale will have armor impervious to low tier ammo. You can only level recon by AFK spotting things.Remarkably shit. I can't actually remember the last time I played a game and enjoyed it less. The entire economy of the game, if you aren't ahead of the progression curve or at least on it, is absolutely menial and tedious busywork. Profoundly cancerous design to make whales and nolifers feel good despite whatever mechanical handicaps they might have.
>>581928891>can't NOT help to min-maxI assumed this would be less the case in this game. I was expecting hell let loose levels of tryhards, which was still rather casual. But the sweats really jumped on this game like it's some kind of extraction shooter. Maybe it'll be all over once the reset hits, and the player base will start to thin and balance out.
yes congratulations you figured out what everyone was saying for the last month and a half, no on responded on vmg because we already know, retard.
>>581924270yes, dadgamers are having a fucking melty because something is not available to them and their 25% accuracy no longer kills people before they can react
>>581929262I still think progression should be scrapped entirely as it is now. It serves no purpose and is only the source of problems and frustration. But then again, it's not impossible to balance it out properly. You kinda forget when playing, but in the end this is v0.0.1 early access so the horrid balance doesn't have to be a dealbreaker in the long run.
>>581929262the amp9 shreds people even in tier 3 armor, it is unlocked by default.I got most of my support xp by running around with a backpack of c4. C4 is unlocked at support level 2, aka go shoot someone with a shotgun a few times.Stop being bitch made and try.
xp should just go the way of hte dodo, remove unlock costs, and increase base costs by a bunch, make every life an actual attempt to REALLY make the best of all your tools, make havocs cost like 100k and tanks like 150k, I guarantee you'll stop seeing so many lmao. Also adds value to repairs and refueling cause people will be desperate to actually keep their shit up.
>>581929761>increase kit costs a ton>helis and arty dominate even harder because their risk is so much lower
>>581924270I bring AP so I can remind little birds that rotorcraft are an affront to God.
>>581929845Well yes that's why helis should cost even more, instead of costing less than a kit they should cost 10-20x the cost of an average infantry kit.That's why I said they should cost 100k-150k.are you okay? can you not read? did you have a stroke?
>>581929262progression is shit but unironically after a bit more familiarity with the map and patience you can ambush some retard at close range with a free gun and take all his shit
>>581929894>suggest increasing costs across the board>this disproportionately affects infantry kits (only people taking real risk)>pretending that the increase to heli cost matters when they are the least affected by any changes to kit costs because they rarely lose theirsCranking up the price dial on everything does literally nothing other than make the existing problems even more obvious.
>>581929649>got most of my support xp by running around with a backpack of c4.Sure you did buddy.>bitch madeAh, I see now. Opinion discarded. Also I hope you get mobik'd and sent to die in the grey zone, pidor.
>>581930106Except they'll be less likely to buy 5-10 havocs because one single kill gets them their money back.Even if infantry doubled, helis going to 100k requires 30+ kills to break even, it will instantly solve the problem, you're a retard, thanks for the laughs.
>extendo mags increase your horizontal recoil by 20%what the fuck lmaois that real or did this website invent that, because everything else here looks reliable
>>581930157>Sure you did buddy.I did retard? Spawn vehicle kills instantly pay for a backpack worth of c4 and are great xp. They're also just objectively better grenades.>Also I hope you get mobik'd and sent to die in the grey zone, pidor.Sorry I'm not european so I don't suffer your mental illnesses when it comes to slavs, this means literally nothing to me.
>>581923189Then red team would get them first- >>581918082
Things being as cheap as they are right now are for metric gathering. They need DATA and allowing players to use the tools more liberally gets them that data. Infantry players get to suck shit for a minute because infantry game play is going to be redone and revamped and rebalanced so regularly that what applies this wipe probably won't apply next wipe. Cry about it.
>>581930289ah fuck bad screenshot
>>581930289doesn't it say that on the description
>>581930341if nobody cries about it nothing will changestop being a retard
Every game should have a buy in, and that's your starting cash for it. At the end of the game your money + rewards get cashed out. Each game should progress through the tech tree naturally with costs spread out to make higher tier stuff appear later unless you're on a 30 killstreak in the first 5 minutes. I can't even see the point of the XP system for any purpose other than whale gratification and giving the studio an out to force a premium currency to avoid getting farmed by nolifers a week into every season if you have a job.
>>581930438not for the galil 50 rounders at the very least, which are also marked as 1.2x
>>581930481No shit retard that is why I told you to cry about it. Stop taking shit so personally. No one gives a fuck about you.
>>581930295spawn vehicles spontaneously combust if spotted within range of a mortar anyways
>>581930554???
>>581930569You're right anon, time to refund and stop opening threads about games that are so bad they're unplayable
>>581930541imo this is just, someone forgor to update the tooltip
>>581930603Curse Vishnu right this fucking second.
>>581930295>Spawn vehicle killsYou farmed your support xp tree off spawn vehicle kills? You killed a spawn vehicle on average once per spawn with a backback of C4?Pull the other one mate.
>>581930686What is so complex about this to you? You go find the blue spawn vehicle, you blow it up or at least get a few fobbit kills with your c4, if you killed it reup and go after red/green, if you didn't go again. You cycle between teams. If both teams don't have one you just blow up fobbit shit.I'm sorry you have a mental made of tissue paper and can't stand any pressure from a game.
>>581929360nta once bf & hll nyggers leave game quality will improve
>>581918082I don't hate Valkrya boy because he's a boy, I hate Valkrya boy because he's a fucking furry.
>>581930848Teams don't even usually bring multiple spawn vehicles per game, and you're not going to C4 any of them before mortars get them with any consistency. You're just lying, and badly. I'm sorry you feel the need to white knight for a game with a shitty first-in-best-dressed progression system that makes you feel skillful simply because you invested the time to unlock things before other people. Sad.
@581931123(You)
>>581931123no one leaves their spawn vehicles out in the open anymore
>>581931123>Teams don't even usually bring multiple spawn vehicles per gamethis is just blatantly untrue, it gives so much xp that the picosecond it spawns or respawns someone is on that shit
>>581931036copingest cope
fucking grim1-50-30 now and blue still doesn't even have a foband i know that for a fact, i'm stuck with these retards
>>581931381if you aren't going to be with a decent sized squad, its literally a waste of your precious time on this earth to play blue.
>>581931381Are you a eurofaggot or a nolife?
>>581931443i've had some solid blue teams but yeah this one's uhjesus.once this kit is gone, so am i>>581931505closer to nolife, but i'm not up hard-grinding my sleep schedule is just rapedi don't even have the m4 unlocked....
>watch youtube videos on building to get some ideas>"unraidable super secure base">requires 10 builders and 20 minutes of uninterrupted building time>proceeds to build a giant coffin with no entranceI guess only retards play this game
>THUNK>THUNK>THUNK
>>581932028a guy i see posting practical building tech is RadioGLHF
>>581932028tbf you often do get 20min of uninterrupted building time
>>581932048>THUD>THUD>THUDGet pregnant, get pregnant.
>>581921328>we're the wardogsAre you new porn, wardoggo?
>>581930654>>581930438uhhh unless it's something you can only see when you own the mag, literally every single extended mag has this penalty not listed in its tooltip
>>581932123His floating block ceilings are going to cuck the shit out of mortars once more people catch on>>581932156I think this is only true for red team. Green and blue starts are constantly getting rushed by the other two teams in my experience
>>581930528>I can't even see the point of the XP systemLikewise>force a premium currencyThey already said they wouldn't do this, so the whole XP system serves no point at all. Except to hide endgame balancing issues maybe. But if that's the case, wouldn't it be less work to balance it all out against each other instead of creating some convoluted tiered balancing?
>>581932340nigga we're the wardogsnigga we build drill fobsnigga i click green til one more nigga logs offnigga we're the war houndsnigga we're in mortar townnigga i aint revivin nobody who was downednigga we're the war pupsnigga get my money upnigga i just be spotting shit like a damn voyeur cucknigga we're the war wolvesnigga we got hidey holesnigga my 30k kit im boutta lose it allnigga i was bluenigga i got bluesnigga this team gives me boo boosnigga i picked rednigga they always deadniggas cant prioritize i scratch my headnigga i finna greennigga feelin meannigga i finally get my win win win
>>581932759how do we rape and kill brammer
>>581932759le enlightened centrist has arrived
>>581932759>>581932803>Blue team is American The only way Brammer could be more of a cuck is if blue team was Israel.
With the way progression works, matches are becoming increasingly onesided as time goes on. It's just bizarre they went this route for what the game is. It should be a fun all-out battle, not a poopsocket grindfest. Why would you frustrate your more casual audience like this? Seemingly needlessly.
>>581933090>all-out battleThen cash should be persistent and all the richfags should be able to buy attack vehicles and level 4 at spawn.
>>581933090I'm holding off on an actual opinion until the game actually releases
one gold bar to give brammer one cleveland steamer
>>581933090unlocks and cash are coolthe structure of these systems are notwhy do we even have a split between cash and XP, why not just have cash let you buy "skill points" or some shit
>>581933258Sure, there's room to turn things around, but they seem locked in on this whole gear unlock idea. Which makes about as much sense to me as having to be some arbitrary level 15 to buy the AWP in Counter-strike. When you buy an AWP as a noob in CS, you don't magically get stronger. You still have to learn the skills to use it. Same as with a noob picking up lvl 4 armor, he won't suddenly start dominating. Progression in a game like this should be player skill, maybe with some tacked on perk tree like they are working on. Weapon unlocks are just goofy and feel misplaced. >>581933232Then other richfags will buy shit to counter them. All-out warfare, wasn't it? But at least casual players could keep up by earning money and not get cockblocked by silly level requirements. >>581933629>cash let you buy "skill points"Would be a good middle-ground solution. At least this way you aren't forced into a certain playstyle to unlock the things you want.
>>581933981>but they seem locked in on this whole gear unlock ideaagain, i'm holding off on an actual opinion when they've already stated that they're going to tweak and shuffle things around with each of these early access wipes, i get that shit don't make too much sense right now but that's probably also why this first wipe is a month long for now i'm just rolling with it and having fun
>>581930289yeah not bullshit, huhthis is bullet 9 in an m4 with 60 rounders (left) and 30 rounders (right)seemingly also increases vertical recoil? but that might be a quirk of the recoil calculation in general
>>581933981>at least casual players could keep up by earning moneyIsn't that how it would work out since the richfags would be out somewhere sucking each other's dicks?
>>581933258>until the game actually releases2 million players, anon. The game released.
>>581934843into early access yes, the game in it's current state is barebones as fuck and there's plenty of shit to add in, make better/worse, tweak. I'd never consider an early access game an actual finished product.
i managed 8 hours before i quitlove the game but i hate the slow grind
are russians region locked or rangebanned off EU servers? game looks interesting but i've given up on like 3 games already because of russians
>>581935812Play on west and not central/east, that's where all the slavs are.
>>581935881desu usually the russians will spread over to other servers after a sufficient hacker/russian quotient has been reached on the dedicated russian servers
>>581935953Honestly it varies from server to server. I play on central mostly and i rarely hear non-english speech, most often nobody speaks at all. I'd rather rangeban the fucking turkroaches.
>>581932360yeah that's what i mean, it feels like someone did a balance pass on all extended mags then forgot to update the tooltips
>>581936037>I'd rather rangeban the fucking turkroaches.desu yeah i don't like most non-westerners who queue on euro servers. but desu even if middle easterners etc. are incredibly annoying to play with in team games, they at least don't have a culture of wanting to obsessively hack the shit out of every single game they get their hands on and also subsequently ban evade no matter how costly or tedious it isit only takes 1 cheater in a lobby of 100 people to fucking up my session so i just can't take a chance with a game that doesn't aggressively quarantine these people to their own containment server
>>581933004I don't vouch for left or right either but I'll never call myself a centrist either because I'm completely out of that tug of war, not neutral.Anyone labeling themselves a centrist is indeed thinking himself as wiser and smarter than either side, but also being so fucking blind that by being centrist you account for nothing and are useless. I'm useless too but I don't think I'm somehow smarter than left or right
>>581930289Is this from the link in the OP?
>>581933004More repliesHow can one man be so based?
>>581931443I play blue to grind for support xp in some remote as fuck fob, just building a bunch of CIWS and Talons because they take a long time to build. Not planning to ever even use them. Blue is also fun for off-zone harassing like the stinger car because it does no good for the team and blue loses anyway so it's all just for fun
He’s so down to earth he’s so based but he won’t implement the hot fix for it
>>581929360nigga once the wipe hits, only the tryhards will remain. Casuals cannot be arsed to grind again.
>you can plant mines outside of your humvee from the passenger seatThese roads will know no peace.
>>581936818metaforge.app/wardogs
>>581928891>this game needs to force distribution into a random teamJust unlocking team joining will fix shit. The team menu locking up when blue is one man down is garbage.
If he wasn’t a twitter addicted chud the impending crash out he goes on twitter will be glorious Look up old promos/battalion 1944 drama too the consistent name that comes up is “Brammer” the guy never changed his attitude and now wardogs was massively popular
>>581937316Neat so it was this one, I wonder how to compares to this one https://wardogtools.gg/builder/
>>581937150That would only be useful in a scenario where you are being chased.
>>581937509The trick is to drive down a road and hop into the passenger seat and place them while the car is still moving forward, this giving you a perfectly spaced line of mines down a road. Of course it's probably less effective than alternating between lanes but it works for being quick about it
>>581937468How would squad join fix anything?If you're joining with 4 players they would logically be put onto Blue because it would not want to imbalance the teams any more than usualSo every squad joining would go to Blue, which is possible now anyways because it's always available to join
>>581936926>>581933004>>581932759This shit is so cringe he’s gonna end up as Nikita one bad patch and his lil BANTER will erode into actual retardation . There’s a lot of *rumors* swirling around and I’m inclined to believe them (they aren’t bad rumors but it’s actually insanely based if true)
>>581937897>There’s a lot of *rumors* swirling around and I’m inclined to believe them (they aren’t bad rumors but it’s actually insanely based if true)Just like Nikita!
>>581937897Who tf is Nikita? Tarkov dev who said they don't want to completely get rid of cheaters because they keep buying more copies of the game?
>>581937770Ban clans that pubstomp. Problem solved.
>>581938157That is a bad solution because pubstomping is the entire point of squadding up and clan mentality.
>>581938157>Ban players who do well in the video gameI can't tell if you people are genuinely retarded, trolling, or just butthurt that you're bad at the gameI'm horrible at the game and I don't say retarded shit like this
>>581938062>Who tf is Nikita?>He doesn't know Mr. Nikita "Pelmen" BuyanovYes he's a tarkov lead dev who started out making a shitty browser unity game in the russian version of facebook that was insanely p2w and horrible to play which then became tarkov, and yes he's very well known in his homeland for the "cheaters buy more game copies which is good for profit" quote.
>>581937493this is uhwhat the fuck is this showingthere is no auto-recoil compensation in this game, what the fuck is thiscomical jump on first shot followed by uh, negative recoil?>>581938062tarkov's brammeras in literally the CEO of BSGhe's a fat retard but i kinda like him despite it allnow brammer... i don't know
>>581938242yeah but me having fun is more important than others having fun so I think devs should do what I suggest desu
>>581935881from my experience Central EU has the most chill and communication-ready players. West has a lot of french who can't really even speak English and in addition they are french, East has slavs who are a hit or miss if they're even on your side. Central has a lot of germs who usually only speak german but at least they are willing to speak english if you tell them you cant understand them at all.One game I squaded up with a bunch of germs and when I told them I'm Finnish they instantly became buttbuddies with me and started cursing in Finnish and made sure I was having a good time playing with them, shit was cool.On week 1 EU players were very talkative, yesterday when I played people didn't really talk at all. I think it's just more common for EU players to not talk when compared to US players
>>581938297idk maybe i'm just imagining it but this matches with my experience, every gun kicks like an absolute mule on the first shot and then it's not so bad
>>581936935embarrassing behavior for anyone over the age of like 27. if you're a grown man still talking like that, cut it out for your own sake
>>581938437NA servers are more talkative because everyone speaks the same language, while euro servers are always a mishmash of people with different native tongues, so people are more reluctant to speak. Especially because a lot of times when things get hectic they automatically default to their native language (a.k.a. the language they think in).
>>581938498>>581938297This is the most retarded way to do full auto recoil lmao. Guns should be difficult to control on full auto and this shit just encourages you to spray and pray rather than be mindful of your fire.Only heavy as shit guns like LMG and other unwieldy pieces of shit should have manageable recoil, because ADSing them takes ages. Right now it's never worth it to single fire on pretty much anything
>>581934721What do you mean?>>581934245It's not bad enough to kill all enjoyment out of the game, but not gonna lie, the level disparity does get tiresome. And as I said, the main problem I see now is just utterly boring one-sided matches where the whole match just devolves into some waiting game with no real objective outside of grinding for exp and snagging a couple of kills. And it's no better on the winning side. The last couple of days I've seen more and more completely empty HZ's because my team has a 30-point lead out of the gate because of some humvee/havok shenanigans, and everybody just gives up because they either don't have access to counters or are unwilling to invest in a hopeless game. Casually walking around following the HZ uncontested until it's over isn't exactly fun either. >>581937094I'm somewhere in between. I'm lvl 60 and I've been playing every night for 5-6 hours. Idk, the way I've heard these tryhards talk, they are all getting "burned out" lol.
>>581938793i agree, but maybe the devs are some of those pathological bloom haters or something? anyway, i watched a streamer playing assault for like 20 minutes and saw that he literally just held full auto on people and pulled down whenever they were win range, i copied it and it just worked
>>581923307I think the skin is set to be intentionally unachievable. you'd need to be averaging 100k-250k a game and playing nonstop every day. they're most likely just pulling some kind of 5th dimensional retard move and planned from the start to ban everyone who gets it for exploiting.
>>581938498nah?first shot i tried to place at the seam, rest were uncompensated (left side of the in-game comparison is with the big mag, so ~20% worse recoil)and uh, at no point does the recoil decide to walk downwardsthese graphs seem far, far more accurate to what the recoil actually does than... whatever the fuck that one is trying to show
>>581937897What are the rumors?
>>581938945Insurgency does it well. Then again, that game has a bit different system altogether: your aim moves inside your screen a bit, as in your character moves his hands without turning yet. Then when you move your aim enough your character also turns. And in that game the bullets always go straight where the barrel is pointing. And using full auto moves your gun all around and it's not really possible to spray beam anything unless youre on a bipod or prone. It's more like ARMA in that regard, that your character is actually handling a weapon and not this arcade fps style where you are the weapon
>>581939613So beyond his comment on crunch being maybe sort of forced you can say whatever but apparently >Brammer is a chud>They also don’t hire you if you use pro nouns or are gay (insane for a uk dev LMAO)>Hes a bully >Old battalion 1944 threads often mention him directly as the issue >he tries to make a cod modern warfare clone but then sort of lies and changes the game into a speed run game last minute goes radio silent and starts wardogs >Their Glassdoor reviews are insanely scrubbed but still have reviews mentioning the lead ceo is crazy
>>581938294>playersDiscord users aren't people.
>>581939208ok it was just imagination then
>>6239236I dont know how to cross-board quote, does this work
>>581940534>>/boardcode/>postnumber
>>581940534apparently not lolhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1790084488806193.mp4
>>581940534>>581940653wait no its>>>/wsg/6239236
>>581940785so do I just type >>/board/post#
>>581940850yes but >>>
>>581939932the hermit....
>>581940983the groomer....
>>581925396>AP isn't worth since nakeds take 1 extra shot to killAbsolute fucking morons in these threads as usualNewsflash: anyone running around with no armour is already a free kill. Against targets who are actually a threat, AP ammo is either as good or much better than fmj. Would you rather bring ammo that's slightly more effective against fobbits, or the ammo that's slightly more effective against wardog level 120 piss bottle juggernauts and heli pilots? Use your brains retards
>>581942223The one that costs less money.
>>581942223It's just retarded that the AP ammo unlocks so much later than the armor. It should always be the other way around, so that the armor unlock feels like "yes now I can survive better" rather than "haha now I can stomp on noobs"
>>581942608Better yet, why have the special ammo be an unlockable at all?You could have truly special ammo be unlockable, like subsonic so you can be truly stealthy.But the HP and AP ammo are so basic stuff that requiring level 80 something for 9x19 AP is just silly
>>581925396these numbers are wrongclass '0' to 4, FMJ: >30.82 | 21.57 | 18.50 | 13.87 | 10.80AP:>24.66 | 20.22 | 18.74 | 16.53 | 15.05
>>581942608I get it, but that's literally the entire progression system. It's totally shamelessly vertical. Being able to shit on defenseless noobs is intentional.
It's the armor piercing even good for killing players? Does it actually take fewer bullets to kill a guy in level 4 armor. What about level 1?
>Arrive to the party 2 weeks late>Most of the fun siphoned out of the game as every server is plagued with 3-5 aimbotters that instinctively stack teams, not including rust kid clans with designated togglers/carriesGod, i hope they actually solve this, but i really don't think they will. You're just going to end up with an entire account boosting market facilitating cheaters cycling through new accounts the moment they get banned.Any game that cannot get its time to ban down below 24hrs from first report is doomed.
>>581944982YesOn average: AP takes 1 MORE bullet to kill an an unarmored target. Equal for t1/t2, 2-4 bullets less for t4 armour. It also does more damage to heli pilots, and more wallbang damage.
>>581944982Galil AP against unarmored chest takes 5 shots to kill, 2 headshots to kill.Galil AP against T4 armored chest takes 8, head takes 4.Galil FMJ vs T4 armor: chest takes 11, head takes 5.FMJ vs unarmored: chest 4, head 2.source: just tried it in the firing range
hmm yes this seems right
>>581946049thats just how impact damage works on vehicles, lots of 1's until it breaks your spine and hits you for a milli
>grab cheap, shitty gear just to grind scout>spawn on apc>the moment I step out, I get a mortar shell on my head>teammate revives me>turns out he looted my sks and my bandages>kidnap our apc, drive it to the hz until someone destroys the antenna, then park it right next to green's apcFuck blue and fuck blue shitters
>>5819429149mm AP is lvl 75. 9mm can't even penetrate the wooden fences according to the game. 9mm. Lvl 75. The progression is simply FUBAR. It's gotten so bad that when I smell a neet, I simply don't engage if I'm not spotted. Why the fuck would I? Even completely surprising him mid-sprint has a 50/50 shot of him surviving my entire mag and just flcking around to beam me to death with an M4. With or without cheats, it doesn't even matter. Fuck him, just let him pass and spot him. He isn't getting a hollow victory out of me. The game fires on all cylinders for me when you're fighting on a somewhat even level, minor advantages are fun to have or overcome but the gap between mid level and 100+ is just a gaping goatse.
>>581944982yesnote: all guns in the same class (like Assault Rifle) and caliber (like 5.56) have the same damagefor a 5.56 AR, all shots to chest, the STK (shots-to-kill) looks like this:>FMJ4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 10>AP5 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 7that'sT0 - T1 - ... - T4or in other words, yes. AP ammo is good for killing playersthe drawback (besides price) is that its benefits are only realized against T3/T4 armor, and it's slightly worse at killing the free-kill players. AP ammo is worse against nakeds (T0) in all classes and calibers, and worse against T1 armor in certain specific classes and calibers (like SMGs, who need an additional shot-to-kill; the horror)
>>581947281I have to second the complaint, It makes the new player experience way more grinding than it should be, and it's going to be really hard to onboard people when they're shooting beanbag rounds at people while wearing cardboard.
>>581947752i think the idea is that noobs do logistics roles that don't require shootingbut it is implemented poorly
>>5819460490.9 ARMOR OP NERF PLEASE
>>581947947>i think the idea is that noobs do logistics roles that don't require shootingEven if that's the case, fucking why? What happened to "play how you want". Now it's "play how you want but if you want to have fun you have to be there day 1 of every season with a fresh batch of socks".
>>581947281anon everything except like the last bullet went into his arm
>>581930848How are you doing this VS attack helis and armored neets? What you're describing might have been valid levelling tactic at wipe, but taking out backpacks full of C4 as a hatchling now to hunt fobs will just send you broke for no XP. Starting the game RN just isn't viable unless you are a cuck with a humiliation fetish: Neets get to fly attack helicopters and farm you for less money than it costs to buy a backpack and fill it with C4.
>>581948264No, it didn't. I got overwhelmed shortly after and checked the logs because I wanted to see how many times he hit me to get me that low. Head and chest we're hit several times too. I'm aimed at his head to begin with. I'm no aimfaggot but even a magdump in his arm should kill someone at this range.
>>581947947Yeah, but why the fuck am I going to play your game if you built it from the ground up for it to not be fun for me because I started 5 days later than some neets? Like, why am I going to go and do unfun logistics jobs and be a free kill for neets for x or y hours, what's in it for me?
Remove the shell camera plz
>red winning>green attacks blue>green winning>red attacks blueSTOP IT. Face the greater foe you cunts!
>try to play a game of wardogs>literally entire lobby is chineseplease give me ping locked servers
>>581950217>ping lockedHow about region locking in general. I don't want a server full of spics, either.
In the server browser, literally every single server is Europe (East) which means roughly half the players are Russian or Ukrainian. Now, I'm not a hateful person. But I wonder; do Europe (West) servers exist? Is it possible to switch region or something? Asking purely out of curiosity of course.
>>581950132Why attack the team that's ahead?They both pay the same amount
>>581950217NA west during morning hours be like
>>581950538Yeah? Just click the region filter dude
The steam reviews for this game are going to tank from Overwhelmingly Positive to Mixed in the next week and Mostly Negative over the next three weeks.Pretty much no one who starts playing this game from now to the end of the wipe is going to leave a positive review, because the game fucking sux to start late right now. Every positive review the game is going to get in the next 4 months to the end of the wipe is from a player who started more than a week ago and nolifed it.Unless there's a change of plans, the game is already dead and it's living on borrowed time while it waits for a sharp death spiral.
>>581950538Do you even filter, bro?Bottom of the browser screen
>>581950815yeah but if you win you get more moneyalso it's more fun to play to win
>>581950976>>581951000oh shit, thanks. You're doing a great service to the blind community.
>>581951181To be fair, that button does not stand out at all, and being at the bottom of the screen makes my brain think it's a confirmation box, not an option boxAdding to the confusion is that there are also buttons at the top that perform filter functions (show full/empty) but that region filter is at the bottomSo you might be only partially blindThe entire UI is a bit of hit-and-miss overall, it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out how other people were buying pallets of supplies when I was stuck with filling chests
how 2 make money?iam poor :(
>>581947281>No damage logI shan't be engaging
>>581951832The server browser especially is very barebones, doesn't show time elapsed which is like the very basic info you would want everyone to know.The pallet buying is also silly because once you buy one pallet it takes you back to the main screen so you have to click your way to the pallets again. No wonder some people think the ural only carries one pallet and chests. Because when it takes you back to the main screen it sends a message saying "youre done with pallets now, lets buy something else next"
>>581953206be a cuck and watch people with binoculars or drive a supply truck
>>581919124>>581925410chinks should be gassed
>>581947281people like to say "just use HP and shoot the legs lol" but filling my mags with airsoft ammo doesn't seem like a viable strategy when the legs aren't always visible and hitting arms is very unreliable
>>581953206Be jewish
>finally unlock 7.62x39mm AP ammoCan the resident nerd test the ak74 STK for AP ammo
what went wrong?
>>581954278>Market the game for months saying its the return of old school FPS fun>Dont outright call it an "Anything" killer they learned their lesson with battalion 1944 but will often wink and nudge against battlefield or cod>Keep pandering the ever living fuck out of the marketing >Get Steamers salivating realize you are gonna be fucking set >PANDER EVEN HARDER make a direct halo 3 reference >Desperate FPS fanboys are here but often hate streamers, hate tryhards, and think wardogs is the answer >Almost 2 weeks in the game is breaking at the seams and no lifes who grind super hard are feasting >There is no official roadmap (sorry early access no road map!!!)>There is no official path of communication you have to either be in a discord server, or follow the CEOs twitter page, OR watching fucking PODCASTS THAT HAVE THEM MENTION FUTURE PLANS>The seasonal "wipe" progression is listed no where in game its often either mentioned in dev blog videos that are months old >Most of the playerbase might not actually know a wipe is coming >Gameplay devolved into being to much of a sandbox people rather grind safely while actual fps gameplay is to expensive or annoying to consistently do >Lead CEO often seems more like a streamer slave and shroud/peanut might even get the progression to be LONGER due to their complaints >Bulkhead often have stressed the game will lose players as a sort of preemptive defense from complaints, 10 reasons not to buy another defense measure>Almost like they knew the game didnt have legs to stand on>Also hackers are a bigger issue now even after killing Linux, using shit anti cheat, and also begging people to not openly report on it
>>581954059AK doesnt shoot 762 but 545. Did you mean SKS or AK?
>>581954278Exp grind, artillery camera, nerf RPG.
>>581954684No way they’ll need progression even more
>>581954734Fuck, i keep forgetting the AK74 in this game shoots 5.45 for some reason its the lvl 63 unlock i guess that means the sks for me
>>581954278>advertise "old style all-out warfare">the game you actually send out is a tarkov-style poopsock grindfest
>>581954684>Bulkhead often have stressed the game will lose players as a sort of preemptive defense from complaints, 10 reasons not to buy another defense measureIt really is a sort of cope
>>581954684>shroud/peanut might even get the progression to be LONGER due to their complaintsWhat, these cod players whined about dying to vehicles again?
>>581954884Yes, fix all of these.
Game is fun but I can tell I'm going to drop it the second all of my friends lose interest. It's just so incredibly biased for group play. Trying to play infantry feels impossible when the instant you shoot or kill somebody you have 6 dudes all sprinting to your exact position because they called you out in discord. And playing on the backlines is so piss boring
>>581955120SKS AP vs Unarmored torso takes 3 shots, head takes 2.SKS FMJ vs armored torso takes 2 shots, head takes 1.SKS AP vs T4 Armor torso takes 4 shots, head takes 3.SKS FMJ vs T4 Armor torso takes 6 shots, head takes 4.The FMJ vs T4 torso was like 99 damage at five shots so I guess it could be 5 or 6 in a real life situation
>>581918082Is there any reason to use AP instead of just using FMJ for everything and the kitchen sink?
>>581954684Lowkey they are gonna use all the money to make a call of duty clone like they always wanted to do
>>581955640Killing T3 T4 armor wearers
>>581955640Yes, it's almost always better.For 99% of guns, TTK is ONLY lower if you're considering enemies with no armour. If you're dying to enemies without armour, you have other problems.For t1-t2 armour, ap and fmj usually perform either the same, or the difference is negligible. And again, If you're dying to enemies with t1 armour, jesus fucking christ.For t3-t4 armour, enemies in helicopters, enemies behind walls (situations where you might actually need an edge), ap strictly outperforms FMJ
>>581955640Differences are very minor, but depends on your weapon. If you're using something that spits out ammo like a slav spits out sunflower seed shells then it doesn't matter, but if youre using high damage and slow weapon then it's a difference of one more shot needed to kill and can make a difference.But I think you should use AP in almost every case because most people are now wearing armor and AP has the added benefit of being dangerous to vehicles so you can actually fight back against humvees and little birds with your gun
>>5819540597.62x39 (DMR class) STK vs chest:>FMJ2 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 5>AP2 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 37.62x54 (DMR class) STK vs chest:>FMJ2 - 2 - 3 - 3 - 4>AP2 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 35.45x39 (AR class) STK vs chest:>FMJ4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 10>AP5 - 6 - 6 - 7 - 8>>581955120irl the AKM is the one that shoots 7.62. it is iconic, but statistically speaking the majority of AKs, both in existence and in use by militaries, shoot 5.45 (source: the vibes in my ass)smaller bullets work better for infantry. the benefits you get from using lighter ammo that shoots flatter and further which you can carry more of while being cheaper to produce, those benefits tend to outweigh the con of less stopping power
Trying to hit helis with an rpg is pretty damn difficult, the RPG is too slow ino and drops way too fast can you consistently hit strafing and low flying helis with the maaws? Had a couple games where a havoc and rocket/minigun little birds fucked my shitup and couldnt hit them worth a damn with an RPG
>>581956386And the smaller bullet will wound a soldier just the same as the 762, and in some marginal cases wounding is even better than outright killing because wounding a soldier takes him out and then it requires another soldier to take him to safety, effectively 2 for 1.
>>581953206literally everything that isn't buying a gun and armor and potentially dying makes you money
>>581956485i spent some time hitting a heli with an rpg and it didnt fucking die
>>581953206go in with nothing but your fists and learn how to play gun gameit's not actually that efficient for making money, but it is good practice for figuring how to survive when in/near active fights, which will indirectly give great returnsthat, or just spot people with binos. usually there's a free kodiak you can yoink in spawn (no one will care) or a quad is $500. but grab one of those and drive around outside the circle towards a good quiet flank spot, infil quietly, and simply Look
>reddit learning you can sell high level items to the gamerdads who haven't unlocked shit yet by putting all the good gear in crates at HQIt's over. I'll no longer have a monopoly
>>581956623Finland is phasing out the 762 RK and replacing them with a 556 platform because the 762 was a logistics choice, being Russia's neighbor and RK is a kalashnikov based platform. And one reason for choosing 762 in the first place was that it performs better in the undergrowth, the bullet doesn't change directions so easily when hitting through willows and other bushes.The 556 is faster though and now that we are friends with Nato it's easier to get than 762, in addition to being lighter and more universal.I don't think Russia uses the 762 anymore either, if I'm not mistaken. It's just heavier and the pros over 556 are too situational.AFAIK 556 performs better against body armor as well because it's faster than the 762
https://x.com/TheJanOfficial/status/2102078063886442809good. fuck these no lifes
>>581957805who the fuck is this>1M views?
>>581957940admin banned some neckbeard using a humvee and grenade launcher
>>581958047yeah i just watched the video seems like a well adjusted guy
>>581957805In theory this is cringe and gay, in practice he's got a ton of people seething and coping in the replies so I'm gonna go with a final verdict of based
>>581957805Holy based. I'd favourite his server if there was such a system.
>>581958185nah, it's his server, if he wants to ban nolifers that's his perogative. this is just people coping with the first shooter to release with an actual server browser in 3000 years
>>581957805I kneel.
>>581958047sounds like the perfect server for the seething troons in this thread
>>581958720t. nolife retard getting b&
>>581957805legitimately based and i would be banned from his serverwell. not for giga-grinding at least
https://youtu.be/3rdbnh8P0T0season 2 trailerweather
>>581958327>I'd favourite his server if there was such a system.>all the marketing is hurr durr play like you're used to>the most basic of server browser features is missingI'm getting fed up with Brammer and /wdg/ lies
>>581957805How do I get neet bucks so I can play video games and not work?
>>581958994Can't wait to see even less shit than I already can
>>581958994>season 2 trailer>weatherAnd starting October 15So another 23 days to get the golden AK
>>581959051Neetbuxs aren't real, anyone who says they are is probably living with their parents.If you want a full ride, you need to go get your leg blown off in Iran. But you WILL have to fight with the VA for your vetbux constantly.
>>581958994yay even more power to the IR goggles.Zestafona is already so foggy at times that you cannot see the top of the smokestack from the edge of the CZ with naked eye
>>581959185I've been playing on average 3 rounds a night 4 days a week. I'll probably drop the game if there is ~3 weeks of life until the wipe, that's enough for me.
>>581959051anon even if you get neetbucks and dont have a job you would still need a severe mental illness to play the game 16-18 hours a day to keep up with these fat fucks. I've had to actually take evenings off here and there on my way to WD level 73 because my obsessive personality only gets me so far.
>>581959360>>581959051By not being american I think. I get fingol neetbux so that after rent and bills I have 200 euros for the month which isn't enough to live on really, not with the food prices nowadays. 50 euros per week can be done but it requires you to eat boring as hell, and obviously no car.
>>581959360spoiler alert, neetbux are actually nepo bucks and thats why they think they're better than everybody while wasting grand-daddy's money
>>581959051Not as easy as it used to be because of all the fucked employment stuff that's been going on for the last 15 years.You used to be able to just take a 3 day stay in a psych ward and that would immediately and permanently disqualify you from tons of jobs, so you could apply for disability under mental health reasons, but now everybody does that so you need years of history.Basically, you don't.
>>581929893Deserved a (you) for this and I will give it to youHelicopters are abominations Their pilots practice black magic
>>581959735>check yourself into a looney bin for "free" moneyjesus christ it's worse than I thought. I could probably game a disability off my back injuries but I'm too ethical to do that.
>>581959990Pretty much yeah, 5150s are funny.
>>581958994rain ambiance...
>>581959821they worship dogs and reptilesthey blacken their eyes with soot like a prostitutethey dance and play cymbals in vile helicoptic rites
>>581958994I don’t understand we are in early access yet have live service seasons
>>581960602because that's how marketing works now. Instead of just patching it regularly, they turn every update into a spectacle/event. That's really it.The "seasons" is just an excuse to justify wiping progress.
Been overseas since release of game. Get back Friday, how cooked am I starting at level 1?
>>581960602It’s so you can’t criticize them as hard
Does it make sense to even build a big FOB instead of a bunch of sattelite mortar pits/SAM sites that take a lot less investment? A FOB represents a lot of time/manpower/logi support that could be used just to hunt the HZ or fuck up other FOB's People have gotten pretty good about mortaring and hitting drills sites in FOBS and that seems like the only reason besides AA and mortars to build a FOB. Only exception i could see is getting tower codes since there is no drill to hit, thoughts?
Am I crazy of is bakurani fucking terrible? There's nothing fucking there. Infantry is a complete waste of time, 90% of the map has no cover and the other 10% doesn't see any play since everybody just gigafobs in the fields on the edge of the CZ or in church
>>581960757Not as cooked as people claim, because you are just as hamstringed against minigun humvees and their T4 drivers armed with grenade launchers as people with 100 hours of playtime
>>581960773That's part of the meta everyone's learning.Megafobs if PROPERLY created, can be really tough to crack and easy to defend, and stockpile fuel enough to keep HZ on you foreverially without delitizing you.Smaller fobs wrapped around the ring with, say, 1 build 1 fuel to keep shit on lock and everything moving without providing major cover is more exposed to mortar fire obliterating your value.It really comes down to, right now, who wins the "mortar" war. Whoever remains shelling will be able to stop anyone else from setting up, meaning they can build drills uncontested and hold HZ until people crack the base.
>>581960551>romepostingyoure alright, anon
>>581960782Ozeti is worse because everybody just goes to the soccer field and it turns into a nuketown clusterfuck
>>581960773i think 2 bases is good in basically every game
>>581961175i've seen people avoiding the field in my last like 10 ozeti games actually
>>581958994sounds like the gepard is being added back to the game
>>581957805He banned Gigachud and made a video about it, it’s time we retaliate sisters.
>>581961006>SAAR YOU ARE HAMSTRINGED AGAINST THE HUMVEE VEHICLE!!! DO NOT PLAY THE DOGS OF WAR SAAR!!!
>>581961149You dont even bring build or fuel to a sattelite FOB you just bring 2 ammo crates with some build supply in your back pack, build a SAM site/mortar and mess with their logi or interrupt their FOB building with minimal investment until you piss enough people off that they hunt you down which distracts a lot of people in the process, could also just fill a truck with verbas and do the same thing which slows their entire team down with minimal investment.
when u get blu team
>>581957805Back in the day it would be cringe. Nowadays... I'd pay to powertrip some as well, fuck it. The current online free experience is cs2 with 7 cheaters out of 10 players each match. I say free experience, but cs2 premier also isn't free while what I said is true.
>>581961383>>581961149I've had many games where they either send a m249 humvee into where we are building our FOB and fuck everyone up, or they take our main FOB and everyone goes "fuck it, HZ time" and the entire team just chases the point around the entire games and wins, when a drill calls the HZ everyone storms the FOB and takes it over it also only takes 3 rpg hits to take out a drill
>>581962121Back in the day it was only US, Europe, and JP playing games. It just ain't like that anymore.
I'm looking for a new game to play with my friend, is it viable to play wardogs as a duo just fucking around doing whatever or do you need to join some sweaty squad and be on voice with them like in ARMA?
>>581962448you can just fuck around
>>581962448now, no, you missed the fun part, it's at the point where everyone has outleveled you and will fuck you over.Try again october 15th when everything resets and you'll have a fucking blast, duo is MORE than enough, you can roam around and break fobs down and shit.
>>581962448Dont have to listen to the other guy, each match you will in the first 5 minutes you will see at least 10 people dying jumping out of helis without a parachute, and even if someone is max lvl no life, there's like 1% you will even encounter that shit.
>>581962975>each match you will in the first 5 minutes you will see at least 10 people dying jumping out of helis without a parachuteeach match in the first 5 minutes you will see at least 10 people dying by jumping out of a heli without a parachute*
>>581962295I blame Nixon for having relations with chinks and Jimmy Carter for starting relations with towelheads.
>>581962975doesn't have to but he'd be retarded not to.He just needs to look at any public forum and he'll see the general sentiment souring in real time because high level content is broken as fuck and the only people who have it are playing 24/7 and will ensure you CAN'T get it.
>>581958994>october 15Ok how about a mid season patch to address some key issues
>>581929262If you cant in t2 with a galil and fmj you simply cant. Its ok you dont have to be good its just a video game.
>>581963525u have not played the gameprobably another streamer stan
>>581963525This is the first week/two they have with millions of people playing, for the first time they have actual data they could focus on to make proper adjustments with rather than trying to imagine how stuff will play out. Their first two big adjustment passes will be what matters combined with the content they are already hyping up.
>>581958994comfy rain
>>581958994for schizophrenics who don't click links
>>581963892They really need to adjust RPG damage, they should make it max 2HKO on humvees reduce the drop off and increase the speed as well
>>581964375they should make it turn the occupants into copper infused slurry
>>581964308How is that fire burning?
>>581960551>>581961152This month's public bread is provided by the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers. The Brotherhood uses only the finest flour: true Roman bread for true Romans.
>>581963892I agree. Which is why there's 0 value to playing right now as we now know they won't do big patches mid-season, lmao.>>581964492jet fuel.
>>581963465real
Anyone have some hotkey bindings to make flying more intuitive? I want to git gud and use the minigun little bird to kill other planes
>>581964714steel beams?
>>581964308not clicking that
>>581964308the sounds are the best part tho...
>>581964807W/S for pitchA/D for rollQ/E for yawthere's a learning curve but if you can properly fly with mouse and with keyboard you can basically do anything as long as you try
>clicking obvious ip grabbers
>>581964375>they should make it max 2HKO on humveesThe thing is, right now people just don't know to bring AT weapons. So when it's just one guy shooting the rpg at a target it really seems like it doesn't do shit. But the intention was for players to say "oh there's a humvee raping our team, let's get a group with rockets to take it out" and end it in one salvo. So if you buff the rpg damage it's going to negatively effect the game once the casuals filter out and the ones remaining are the ones who know to switch loadouts to counter.I think first the usability of the rpg should go up by making it cheaper and also putting it in the wardog tree instead of support, so more people have access to it and might change to it. Then after trying that look to change damage on it.Oh and make all vehicles cost more so they aren't so easily spammable.
>>581958994oh shit sonrai
>>581965375imo the biggest rpg problem is it's heavy as FUCK
>>581965375Same with tanks actually, the moment enemy notices there's a tank in play, they all pull up with some RPGs. I've seen a strimmer do just that, he was doing well, but when they started fighting back - you just strolling alone in the tank was easy to counter. If you pulled up with a tank at the back of your assault team, that's some kino that's actually rewarding teamwork.
i think the other problem is that a lot of people play shooters with a preconceived notion of what they are going to do in the match. this game expects you to do actual tactics, to flow and adjust and spend money on different things as a team
>>581966138Ive had a couple of kino games with massive fights in the HZ where logi would drop supply crates with ammo nades and smokes to keep the team supplied because we were ruinng out of everything because guys would stay so long on 1 life due to the amount of rez we could do when there was 20 guys in the hz
Yet another reason to rethink or forego the progression all together
>>581965375my main issue with the rpg is that it's also shit against infantry and urals
>>581966138That'd be a lot easier if you change your kit at a FOB. Clearly they wanted you to ask pilots to bring a crate of whatever you need, and that does happen a lot, but many players are still to dumb to consider that. So when they're out in the CZ and circumstances change they try to force a square block in a circular hole rather than think to go re-kit
>>581966643>to ask pilots to bring a crate of whatever you needI use the "pick me up" emote and just ask for a pilot to pick me up. Stand near an FOB on open ground so it's an easy landing, and you can catch a ride to base within 5 minutes usually.
why the fuck do SAM sites just not lock on sometimes.
>>581966643i mean, you can technically do that, by delivering shit to it.
>>581966568>shit against uralsYeah that should be changed>infantryThe rpg should only one shot someone if it's a direct hit. Letting it take out people in splash damage would also ruin the game's balance. It's supposed to be a cheap and early method to take out vehicles, not a spammable, field clearing noob tube. That's what the grenade launcher is for.
luv me fobluv me 'ammer'ate mortars'ate choppassimple as
>>581966856Too close to the ground, if the heli is too close to the ground it can't lock forcing you to use a maaws or try and shoot out the pilot
>>581966856I've had instances where it doesn't play the sound, but is still locking, and will green when it's locked. Or they could be too low. It seems pretty finnicky,
>red humvee spend the entire game with hit and run tactics on the hz>fed up, buy only rpg and ammo>by the time I get back to the zone, somebody already destroyed it>-7k and I have no actual gearAlso makes me wonder about hoew useful would the tank be since humvees can take this much damage and deal even more already
>headshot against a pilot with 556 3 times>12 damage per shotShoot out the pilot they say. Helicopters aren't disgustingly broken they say.
>>581968504Tanks are brutal for zone control. With a proper gunner and a good driver tanks are gonna be very tough to beat. The only real limiting factor is the turn rate now that they capped it (being able to do 360 trickshots with the tank in the beta was fucking great)
>ram a kodiak with my ural>no damage doneFuck this game
>>581968637>very tough to beatThe level 20 rocket bird is enough
>>581966439These accounts are all speedlevelled by chinese/SEAmonkey RMTbot cheaters, you know that? If they flag that shit you will just get domed and HWID logged.
>>581969635>hits you with a single MG round and obliterates your rotorslol
>>581960551Good post, this.
what is the best most surefire braindead way to farm money?>supplying ammorequires the team to be winning the mortar war>deliver APCrequires the team to be respawning i.e losing but not losing too hard the APC gets blown up>secret mortar baseonly works if theres a heavy concentration of enemy fobbits
>>581969842Recon. Spot everything. Especially helicopters and parachutersCost of entry is like, 150-200 (binocs, parachute)Essentially no danger although I've found it's more effective if you get a little closer to the action. And it's not like you have anything to lose.
>>581969842spotting in a good spot
>>581920858>Price of gold is absurdly high>See price trending downward, assume it will become more affordable later in the season right before the reset. Makes sense late wipe to want to suck up everyone's money so everyone isnt spamming 100k loadouts.>Price of gold starts going up again
>>581970167poopsocking for a limited time skin for a low tier gun that you stop using very early on doesn't seem worth it
>>581970167everyone has like 5m sitting in the bank so they're buying it.EVERYONE is waiting for it to hit the lows, it's not gonna. Anything under like 2m I think is the best you'll feasibly get.
>>581970167My theory is it's going back up because rewards are wack and high end gear is expensive.So all the 4+kd chads were making bank in t2 armour with a galil, but now they're running t4 +m4 and the profit margin has shrunk because the gear improvement doesn't translate 1-1 with the increased cost. So some grinders are going broke
>>581919425>Blue is permanently crippled because for some reason the game allows you to have 30/35/35 teamsThe scoring system is basically a head count. How can anyone expect to win when they are down 5 players?
streamer effect brought in too many clip-chasing cod freaks who learn 0 mechanics
the subjective reasonings for blue being the worst are so funny because there are objective design-based decisions like blue being pincered on 2/3 the maps, and having the worst spawns on 3/3 maps, worst tower locations, worst pre-baked indestructible locations, etc etc. Blue REALLY gets fucked. And still people are joking that it's just newbies and stuff.>>581970789well they broke the fucking game's queue system on launch day to bring streamers in so that's clearly the end goal.
I mean, it's been said 10 times over already in this general but they obviously need to nerf recon, or rework it or something, it's such a ridiculous method to earn money in the game.
how many rpgs to kill a fob
Do we think the rain is gonna be a separate map or dynamic weather?
>>581970845Season 2 should just swap blue's main base with Green on every map. I want to see what happens.
Im gonna do it
>>581971215DO NOT REDEEM. DO NOT GIVE SOME CHINESE DUDE YOUR STEAM ACCOUNT JUST TO GRIND YOUR DUMBASS WARDOGS LEVEL
>>581971024rain effects, especially heavy rain like their little trailer, will absolutely rape streamer bitrates, and make them go play other games.
Seriously who fucking designed these maps?From the top: Bakarani t1 completely fucks the entire center of the map and turns the northern field into a no-go kill zone.Green has 1x tower close and 1x tower that's "technically" contested blue green, but it's in such an inconsequential location that it can pretty much be ignored. Plus it's easier to hold them take, since the South side of the tower is sparse veg/fields, and the north is in the tree line.Red gets church, which is easily the best fob location on the map. And they can use the North village as cover to move up on green positions.And then blue gets t5. Trying to take t1 from the east, raped by church snipers.From the west, raped by green t3 on the hillside or even t2 I'd they take it. But if they DON'T take t1, they're completely locked out of the fucking map. Flank routes? Fucking none.
>>581970845>they broke the fucking game's queue system on launch day to bring streamers inweird way to say they specifically gave priority access to the people they were paying to market their game
>>581971816I don't understand why the towers are in the game at all. the mechanic associated with them never gets used, they just end up being retard magnets and sniper nests
>>581971916And all their marketing was trying to appeal to anti streamer boomers btw
>>581971916Well, they did that, and it lead to the queue system which had previously managed the similar 250-300k player queues breaking in half and becoming entirely nonfunctional (though it still worked just fine for streamers!)
>>581965165why 8% sensitivity? I'm at 80% am I shit?
>>581971962Yeah not sure why these towers exist if you can build your own hotzone drill wherever you want without the restriction of having to collect all 5 pieces of exodia just to start the drill for like 2 minutes. If you get the code the hotzone should be yours for the rest of the match. That would actually make it worth fighting for.
>>581969124I killed a guy doing this but he got out and I pushed his kodiak into him causing a suicide kwab
What am I supposed to do now? I won the game
i can't seem to stay connected to servers today
well well well
PSA: Stop placing your recon towers so that the front of the tower lines up with the wall. It's so much more powerful to place them so that the back of the tower lines up with the wall. It also gives you the added bonus of giving you a nice airlock into and out of the base by deleting the pillar next to the ladder and throwing up doors. Added points for making the corners of your square a double recon tower that easily looks down the whole wall.
>>581972156allows for more precise aim in first person
>>581971215Why would anyone pay for a boost in a game with wipes
>>581972171They could just double the amount of drill time and make it so other drills cant pull the zone from tower, that would make it pretty strong
>join green>only 2 guys bother to build a fob>everyone else just rushes to the hz, dies, and rushes back in>it works, game ends with 9 points for blue and 17 for redCouldn't even grind any role besides recon, assault and medic because red gave up and decided to send humvees and kodiaks to harass our two fobbits and my delivery route.This is just retarded and yet every game is the same. I'd rather get back to the mortar spam than this. If I wanted to play Battlefield, I'd just play Battlefield.
>>581971816the towers are bait and i bet 99.99% of foboids don't even know how to use the code terminal in them. stop building on them.
i think i'm about to start just teamkilling these retarded freaks who stand next to me and spam their unsuppressed mosin while i'm sniping
In your opinion, what’s the best/favourite class so far? Also easiest one to level up?
fuck ass SAM logic.
>>581972921>every game is the samechoose a different teamblue is the opposite: if the one singular attempt at an hz rush fails, everyone becomes a fobbit
>>581972608get a job
>>581973086too low.
>>581973086You can't get a lock if they fly too close to the ground. It mimics some sort of real life radar mechanic.
>>581972980towers are still the best fob location because of the tall, indestructible tower itself and the large amount of flat ground to build on
>>581973086There's a weird ass bubble around the "playable" area of the map where the circle is that fucks with heli flight, im guessing it also fucks with locking onto them.
>>581972752here's an anon that understands defence
>>581973240they really aren't, there are numerous buildings on every map that are also indestructible and placed in better spots. Even the edge of the map is better if you get an early enough start and aren't raped before getting a perimeter set up.
>>581972769ah okay, I havent flown enough to mess with first person yet
>>581973023probably medic for both. I like the guns, I like the kit you unlock, running into smoke under fire to pull a teammate back to safety is fun, and you can farm a lot of xp off rez's while really contributing to your teams efforts.or if I'm drunk it's all about trucking.
>>581973461>>581972769Should be added that yaw is usually the most important part when aiming with a chopper or a plane, because most of the time the vehicle is drifting a little bit (yes even planes drift all the time) and yaw fixes the aiming when drifting. It's easy to yank the stick into correct pitch because that's intuitive and obvious but yaw does the fine tuning
>>581973191>>581973237>>581973268is the "low" relative to the bird, then? cause thats fuckin awful. I get that it's counterplay to SAMspam, I guess but that's still grim since the RPGs are a bit shit.
>>581972854in path of exile they pay $200 for a belt which wipes after 3 months
>>581972752Anon.. im going to let you in on a secret. But you have to promise not to tell anyone else or you will break the poor fobbits hearts.The recon towers base is extremely weak, and if it is exposed to the outside, anyone can punch it out in less than 30 seconds and the entire tower gets deleted.I'm sorry to break your dreams like this anon, but its for your own good.
>>581974168It's relative to the ground. It rewards skilled polots for flying just over the heads of the infantry. No, this is not an easy thing for them to do, especially while they try to line up shots. I had a game yesterday where I was walking around in the hot zone infantry blob with a verba and pointing it at the copters that were peppering us. I wasn't firing it, just doing locks to scare them down/away. They had to fly so low and slow that another guy got to blast one from 20 feet away with an RPG.
oh shitwaht if the fire in the teaser is fucking molotovs to stop campers
nice game
>>581975119Even if that is true (I can't figure out how to do it) , it's still better if it's protruding because it would be just as weak with only the front exposed.
>>581972752>blue team builds a fob like this>instead of manning towers and using high ground everyone is outside the fob getting killed in a random adjacent building
>>581975906It is true unfortunately, once you have the tower built, go prone and crawl as close as you can to the base of the tower. Start punching the sandbags under the floor and the tower will eventually collapse. Theres no kind of hit registration or hitmarker sound, but it does work.I do hope they patch it in season 2, but of course you can still put barbed wire or hesco blocks or concrete walls around the recon tower to protect its base from fisticuffs.
>>581975119i don't think this is truei just went into the downstairs part of an exposed enemy recon tower and couldn't punch any of the wood parts
>>581976881hmmi'll try again
>still under 10 hours and don't know shit>take a cheapo rifle, spare mag, and box of ammo to a FOB with APC on it>grab a hammer from the FOB and start building random walls>shoot at random helos that get too close>revive randos that got strafed by a helo or mortar'd>run out of ammo>hang around the FOB for 30 more minutes doing nothing>game ends>+$50,000 profit>team losesAm I playing this game right?
>>581977150Yeah, pretty much. I'd recommend you try to keep a buffer of 100k on you at all times, just so if you're in a bad mood and just want to throw cash away on juggernaut kits you can without going totally broke.Building is #1 moneymaker for 0 risk.
>>581971816the only good tower on that map is t3 for green as a SAM site
>>581976881>it workslmao
>>581973191>>581973237not too low, if it's too low it shows long dark red on the indicators
>>581954684thanks
>>581955640there is literally no reason to use anything but HP
>>581976948I don't know about the wood, but the sandbags under the wood definitely works. I did it to a blue base that was running a drill. And I did it to a hidden SAM site with a guy sitting on top of the recon tower. His whole structure just dissappeared and he fell in front of me.
>>581976881Well I don't think anyone is actually doing this, because I've never seen one just implode like that, but if you are scared you throw up cement walls around your tower and place an unbuilt sandbag wall to give yourself a bit of a boost to see over them from inside.
>>581978483does shooting work instead of sitting and punching?
>>581969649Yes, I do. And they will still have to flag that shit. And even if they do, it's still going to be a forever problem. Like any form of cheating. All I'm saying is that it's yet another problem the progression caused, and it solves nothing.Idk what cheat programs cost generally, but there will always be idiots who buy this crap at those prices.
>>581978595Thats one way to do it yeah, or 1 block hescos with barbed wire on top. Anything to hide the sandbag foundations.>>581978613Probably. Anything to hit the base of the tower rather than the main structure Hescos. But punching is preferable because its almost silent.
>>581979134>You arent allowed to have progression otherwise bugmen will cheat and exploit to bypass the progression, and then sell their services to othersYou do understand how much of a schizo take this is right? Whats next, we aren't allowed to have FPS games anymore because russians will create aimbots and wallhacks for them?
>>581972608Unironically, get a life. Maybe start with a shower.
>>581979691Scrub a dub dub
What is this guy doing to get such a score at 5 minutes into the game? score was 5/6/11 at the time and this dude has 5 times the score of everyone else. Also level 159 is wild.
>>581975476erm
>>581980127go find him and find out for us
>>581980127hacking, obviously.That speed seems like a blatant spinbot, could also be something like the bridge fly-under thing too. If you loop flyunders on a bridge in the map you get a stacking cash bonus, with no cap.
>>581954684Would they actually nerf progression?
>>581954684>Bulkhead often have stressed the game will lose players as a sort of preemptive defense from complaints, 10 reasons not to buy another defense measure>Almost like they knew the game didnt have legs to stand onThey have had multiple betas but took barely any feedback on them
>>581980127He's doing this (skip the intro):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmeRPDnuzbgIf you sell weapons to people via small box (logistics vehicles can carry them) in addition to the 25% markup, you get 1k per kill kickback
>>581980428>could also be something like the bridge fly-under thing too.I keep hearing about this. You get paid for doing stunts?
>>581977150if you just stayed invisible recon the entire game you'd make twice as much
>>581979402>>You arent allowed to have progression otherwise bugmen will cheat and exploit to bypass the progression, and then sell their services to othersYes.
>>581980976some stunts, yeah.It was an exploit that people were keeping under wraps but someone posted it on plebbit so cat's out of the bag (also I opened a ticket in the fucking BETA and it's still not in a channel for it)If you have a heli and fly it under a bridge on ozeti or bakurani, you will get a small cash prize (it gives exp the first like 2 times then no more), and it stacks for each loop with no cap. You can get it up to $3000, $4000, or $5000 per passunder very fast.
>>581981078this doesn't work anymore now that everyone has IR. you will get killed in a minute trying to spot.
>>581977150>didn't found the hidden casette and scoffed when it was anything but Giantsyou're getting there!
>>581981410i've seen precisely zero IR spotters lol
>>581981552this guy with ir goggles on the stack made 600k in a match
>>581981410>brings like $200 hammer and one stack of build mats>puts up sniper tentlmao good luck IR cuck
Season 2 has rain
>>581979156>>581978613Here's my theory after some testing: Punching is considered "armor piercing" damage, probably for the purpose of being able to punch out people in level 4 armor. Armor piercing bullets deal extra damage to wood fences so you can more easily shoot people standing behind them. The bottoms of the recon tower, fire shelter, and bunker are made of wood and therefore take maximum damage from armor piercing sources.
>>581981410>this doesn't work anymoreMy two $140k matches last night hiding in the hotels beg to differ
>>581981410anon, your ghillie suit?
>>581969842>requires the team to be winning the mortar warwrong
why isn't hardcore more popular?
>>581983281because it's not actually hardcore. Same shit as "infantry only" still having fucking minigun humvees.
>>581979402That's not what I said. In the case of wardogs, the progression creates more problems than it solves (nothing).
>>581931381either leave the game or go mesh with whatever the blob is doing so you can suck up some money/xp
Just sniped a ghillie suit off some random green nigger trying to stealth outside the circle behind our fob and holy fuck it's so fucking broken for foresty maps it's actually insane. I stood literally 10 meters from a guy and he didn't see me put a 7.62 in his head. Can't believe i have to grind 8 more fucking levels for this thing.
Is it even worth it to snipe people for xp? Should I just spot and nothing else because it lowers my chances of dying while in a spot?
>>581984120Spotting falls off insanely hard later on if you're not spotting people who then get killed so just grab a dmr and go fight in the HZ
>>581983281hardcore is just regular but with less ui in ways that just make it annoyinglike okay I now I can't see what my quickslots are set to but mortars still get UAV cam sure thing bulwark
>>581937897>>581939613>>581939894>
Save this tweet when they ignore valuable feedback
>>581984314The woman who wrote this has pink or purple hair
>>581939894>>581984314Yeah I like wardogs but I think he should stop using twitter now, the down to earth gimmick doesn’t work for long
>>581984645>oh my gawd theyre heckin BASTE like me! please subject me to 12 hours of unpaid overtime daddy jew! thank you thank you!No wonder white people are dying out.
>>581984314>>581984324If you look into old posts, everyone mentions Brammer it’s insane like he’s consistently the one piece of info mentioned
I love caring just about the game, how is this crunch gotta affect my enjoyment while playing? Not one bit? That's crazy, I'll go do something more interesting than listening to drama and cloutslop.
>>581984780I do unironically wonder what the world will be like when it's all jeets and chinks.Like will the level of corruption and degradation of basic services be such that war is impossible because smelting metal is impossible?Will the whole planet be one giant toilet?
>>581985164If Brammer is forcing you to post this please blink twice we are here for you
>>581957805>wow thats alot of hours, wonder how many i have>I'm not even a poopsocker on this game either
>>581985164It's just pure virtue signaling and trolls trying to derail the discussion
>>581985254who?
>>581985484I wouldn’t care if that retard after 5 betas actually changed anything in this game. This shit is a poopsock grind fest and if season 2 does actually just increase the grind it’s GG
>>581985314what game?
>>581985736
>>581985254No seriously why should we care at all? Crunch means faster updates
>>581985736There is no way they increase xp requirements right?
>>581985990Streamers are complaining others are unlocking things to fast
>>581985990they will probably rebalance xp rewards so you can't farm as effectively
>>581957805He bans people that kill him regardless of their level, his a faggot that has the be the best in his server, if you are above him on the leaderboard, you are a "no life" and get the ban,
>>581983281because it's gay hardcore like mlg halo 3
>>581986151IMO they're right but in a really fucked up way, poopsockers are unlocking things too quickly while everyone else is stuck behind the grind and the power imbalance between the haves and the have nots is crazy wide so it screws things up.
>>581985230noyes
>>581985314sounds about right.
>>581986498How do you fix it?
>>581986498I see the reasoning but by the time the wipe happens the casuals will just be getting the high tier toys and back to square 1 This is a mess at this rate, you can’t stop poopsockers they’ll always bounce back
>>581986669Massively reduce the grind, the poopsockers will be geared up instantly but if everyone else can unlock a bunch of the fun toys with a solid week or so of playing the worst of the pain only lasts for a few days instead of potentially month-long CBT sessions for average players like the game is developing into at the moment.
>>581986884>>581986669The money system should be more important and actually use it to balance items instead of wiping shit
>>581986669you either make it so everyone gets it faster, or it requires significantly more resource investment. Normalfags won't notice if assault vehicles cost 1m per spawn, poopsockers will though.I think the smoothest application would be weekly 'gating' on price. Everything costs xx% more week 1, yy% week 2, z% week 3, then by week 4 it's at standard price. Even if you unlock it early, you're still going to have to spend significantly more to use it early.If they want progression to be a bit more smooth to keep people on par, they'll never be able to do that, but they CAN artificially gate how often/easily people are using the high level unlocks.Why do tanks and havocs cost under $20k each less than 2 weeks in? They should cost way more right now and then slowly get down to 20k after the wipe is near done.
>>581955640AP rounds let you damage Humvees with small arms fire and penetrate the glass to kill the driver. If you dont have AP ammo the humvee is server admin.
>>581987141and by everything I obviously mean everything level 25 and up in a skill tree, as that tends to be the big turning point for pilot/vehicles/sniper.
I really hope you guys are practicing with the Stingray because with artillery trucks and tanks becoming more and more common its going to be the single best way to fight back
>>581986669soft cap on XP gain per day
>>581987380Killing myself in a c4 humvee is easier and more difficult to counter
>leveling assault>my kit is t-21 with an extra mag, the $350 backpack, stack of loose ammo, two FAKs, two frags, and a rangefinder, and a verba>just burst his ass from the back as he was hiding solo in a building>jack all his shit>"FUCKING HOMELESS PEOPLE"
>>581987447turns the gameplay loop into a gacha dailies type of thingoh i gotta log in today and get my XP cap or else i'll be behind!
>>581987872add rested xp then like literally every game in the last 20 years has, I didn't think that needed to even be said it's so obvious.
>>581985742Also a ton of other games ranging from 50 to 500 hoursI was surprised because although I play much more vidya than the average person I didn't think it was that much, guess it starts to add up after 13 years.
>>581987981then i'm only going to log in when my rested XP is capped retard
>>581988073so?
>>581987872>oh i gotta log in today and get my XP cap or else i'll be behind!But that's already the case
>>581988073then we won't have retards like you playing most of the timewin-win
>>581986669preferably make it easy for server owners to have lvl cap on who can join and have official servers divide players into brackets so noobies cant be farmed by sweats with havoc and tanks.
>>581988018i mean specifically the 25k number
>>581986498then why didn't he turn on total level cap? or individual skill level cap?Or you know, any of the caps that would stop those people?He deliberately let the guy in, then only banned him when HE got shit on with the noob tube. Literally just a powertripping redditor.
ozeti is such a garbage mapbakurani is pretty bad toozastafona is alright
>>581984314>company with a history of failures and layoffs has spiteful former employeesNo shit.>muh crunchBulkhead has a 4 day workweek for most of the year btw. Crunch for them isn't the same as it is for other devs. it's just a regular workweek.
>try and play infantry>squad gets spotted by IR from 1000 meters, instantly swiss cheesed by 8 dudes with m4's in bushes 400 meters away>try and play inside a house, lee chin plugs my coordinates into his AI SAAS deeplearning mortar webapp and drops 3x shells directly on my head>attempt a deep flank, rocket pod helicopter on potato graphics spots me through foliage and fucking atomizes me >finally feel like I'm on a roll>"John Smith" deletes half our squad in one mag and finishes off the rest with his second>check scoreboard>210 pingSo are we still having fun or
>>581988667Stop trying to convince retards that they are retarded, they will just cry more
>>581988427That's total hours across the whole account, from the augmented steam extension
>>581986593>20,000 hoursAnon thats over 2 years straight of playing the same game. Thats 12 hours a day every single day for 4 years straight. What game could possibly be worth that many hours of your life?
>>581989181I bet it's tf2
>>581985314cant really show off my total playtime since majority of it would've been league of legends, a few MMO's as well as CS (offsteam / before they started counting cs hours), at least I have over 2400h in TF2, peak
>>581989264>>581989181Runescape, OSRS in particular, so a good portion of those hours are likely not wholly active.It's less exaggerated when you look at it on a scale of 10 years, 20 years, 30 years instead of 4-5.TF2 is for fags, I have like 200~ hours in it, but once they really started going hard on crates I stopped playing. I don't like mtx.
I kind of wish the maps were a little smaller. right now it's 33 people and (most) are on fobbits or sniper duty. the HZ blob either wins or disperses when they take enough losses. I kind of wish there was some overlord commander, like NS2 who could direct stragglers to doing something useful while letting squads handle their own business? Maybe letting whoevers in the APC deliver some sort of "go here" order, that sticks a thing on your HUD.
>>581986669significantly reduce the grind so that everyone is on the same playing field after a short time.Escape from Tarkov already proved that no amount of increased grind will stop determined poopsocks from getting ahead of everyone else for an advantage. BSG continually increased the grind for 5+ years straight and it did absolutely nothing to slow down unemployed grinders (and cheaters). grind is completely counterproductive if the goal is to have everyone be on a similar level
>>581989684you mean like the game that solved this like 20 years go?
>>581960757unless you join some community low level server if those are even a thing yet you are completely fucked>enemy attacks with humveesyou cant do shit>enemy attacks with havocsyou cant do shit>enemy snipes you from 9000+ myou cant do shit>enemy has t4 armoryou cant do shitat this point I honestly wait for the wipe or maybe even refund it if you still can
>>581989806The whole issue is that everyone likes the early part, reducing grind brings it to the dogshit state everyone hates, faster. We want LONGER grind. Or at least the bullshit pushed out way way further.
>>581988745not really I was getting 25k-100k lives a few days ago but now Im getting deleted instantly and losing all my money.
>>581933629What kind of skinner boxed modern gamer brain rot tier is "grinding for unlocks is cool".What do you get out of that shit?
>>581989994people say the same thing about early wipe Tarkov but even with exponentially increasing grind and level requirements you'd still end up getting run over by level 40 people in end game kits 3 days after wipe. the only thing increasing the grind does is extend the window that unemployed autists get where they have the busted shit and nobody else does. they should balance it via the money mechanics like how they advertised.
>>581990436this mentality has been around since before you were even alive
>>581990801No, hardcore wipe on tarkov with extended grind actually made it an enjoyable week before everyone was just shitting out level 1488 plate carriers and meta m4s, INSTEAD of 3 days.
>>581988127no, if I have saturdays and sundays off work I can play all day on those days, without falling behind the people who can play every day
>buy an SVD with a scope>take the scope off because it's too high magnification for a shorter range combat that is approaching>the gun has no front sight because I bought it with a scopelol watAlso>blue is at 95, red at 95, green at 93, HZ is at red>blue activates drill>the ENTIRE red team charges out of their fob to follow the HZ, all on foot and yelling like madmen>the blue fob ends up being an israeli superfort so no getting in>but their drill is so close to the wall that reds just hunker down outside and win the gamethat charge was fucking awesome, attack choppers just flew past us because probably didnt expect to see 30 guys running on foot right there
I'm so tight with my nearly a mil in cash that I don't even want to run level 3 armor despite having the ability to unlock it because some no life cunt will still one tap me with it on anyways. So I just run level 1 armor
>>581990436you get the unlock that other people may not have yet, and get to fucking curbstomp the shitters that don't.That's literally the whole point, getting to be better and win.
more people should drop ir binos at startthough this fag did do a max markup
>>581954278Vertical progression. Everything that people initially liked about the game has drowned in an ocean of grind sweats flexing their unemployment.
>>581987801and I forgot the most important part>dude hiding in a building with drum mags silenced AMP, medic bag, defib on sling, t4 armor
>4channelers conferring on how to drag everyone else down to their levelall top tier gear and especially vehicles should be massively buffed, and the xp requirement should increase based on the number of players who have already unlocked themserious players should NOT be on the same power level with plebs
I think the whole unlocks and wipes system was a lot more palatable before I realized that progression is strictly vertical, and the gap between early and late unlocks is insane. It's also way less interesting. It's not like there's some cool combination of attachments that makes the AK a contender- as soon as you have the galil, never buy it again. As soon as you have the m4? Never seeing the galil again. And so on.Doubly so since there's pretty much no cost effective counter to a lot of the shit people can unlock. You will 100% lose money if you carry verbas, rpgs, c4, etc, in a standard kit. You lose less if just assume that all the times you get assraped like a defenseless little bitch come out in the wash. Which is stupid.
>>581992278worse than that like 75% of each tree is damn near identical."Oh wow the galil is -2% horizontal sway and -1% vertical recoil versus the $0 rifle? holy cow yipee golly jee that's amazing!"Then you go up to 35 and the FAL without any attachments is firing fucking cannonballs for 70 damage a shot. What's the fucking purpose.Same shit with spotting tools, why would you EVER buy the monocular. Why would you even unlock it?
>>581981836i always call towercucks out in all chat so both teams shoot at them
>Some stupid retarded dipshit halfwit morainic faggot doing callouts in the all chatI want to strangle these embarrassing fucking losers so fucking badly
>>581965375>the intention was for players to say "oh there's a humvee raping our team, let's get a group with rockets to take it out"this shit does not work once you realize you have one teleport to frontlines every 10 minutes, every other form of transport including heli is slow AF and dangerous, the tools to deal with them slow you down massively and provide almost to no benefit outside the designated "boss" killnobody is casually running a launcher or C4 or IEDs
>>581986669Make balance horizontal. The starter kit should be just as good as anything you get after a week of shitting into an empty mountain dew bottle.
>>581992931So did you take any steps to help them, like telling them the enemy can hear them? Or inviting them to a squad?Or did you just quietly shit your diaper and go cry on 4chan after the match?
>>581993109It shouldn't be horizontal, but just dampen the late game effectiveness of weapons. Diminishing returns.Red is how it is now. Blue is how it should be.
>>581989181anyone with more than like 3-4k hours in a game is just a fag who leaves their shit open for steam hours
>>581991764Grinding a game doesn't make you good at it. Vertical progression is for crippled little bitches who can play a game for 1000 and never actually get better at it, so need progression systems baked into give them the experience of not being ass for the first time in their lives.
>>581965375if you have to die and then respawn and wait for a heli or god fucking forbid DRIVE back to the zone, you are not going to want to also have to forsake a meaningful kit just to stack rockets for your maaws, and pray that it hasn't fucked off somewhere else you can't track it to take it out, cause then all of your kit is entirely worthless outright.
>>581984324yeah im enjoying the game but i'm definitely looking forward to the inevitable meltdown brammer will have the second they do something that the community isn't 100% responsive to. type of guy to dig a hole deeper for sure. they think they're way more clever than they actually are
>>581989994>We want LONGER grind.No, I don't. The gear and weapons just have to be properly balanced as a whole.
Chat am I banned?
>>581994116you're not weand they've had 6 months of active playtesting to balance with hyper-express exp rates, this is balanced to them
>>581993704the thing about noobs is that you can have a better gun and better armor than me and i'll still kill you because you're a noob. i don't care about vertical progression because i'm still better at the game, vertical progression just makes the gap wider because i can use the good shit too
>working for fat stacks cheevo>get to 80k>no sign of me getting found and killed before 100k>except for the fact that red and blue completely drop the ball and green wins 0-4-100you fuckers couldn't have put up just a little more resistance?
Please can someone just make a 20x xp server this shit is unbearable i can't level fucking recon cause the only open team is blue and you're bright fucking blue and you can't set up flanks on any map cause everything is green and you are blue so you just get lit up by thermals and domed by niggers with 50cal rifles who poop in a bucket and havent logged off since the game started
>>581994569if a team gets a sizeable lead in the beginning there's no point trying to corral the retards on your team into trying to catch up, its better to just make money
>>581994126tuesday maintbut to put it simplyyes
>>581994570>yes let me play on the designated mouthbreathing retard team instead of playing on the teams where the actual players are
>>581994842>yesIt's been real
>>581994570My man. Lonestar for LIFE
>>581994857>he's so bad he needs other players to win for him
>shoot a ural twice with an rpg right on the driver side window>it just drives offFUCK OFF.
>>581995861bro your MAAWS?
>>581995861I've detonated upwards of 4 C4 underneath Urals as they drive over it and they just drive off unbothered.
>>581996095locked behind another 20 hours of hammer
>>581995861I like to vibe logi in the ural and i can tell you that you are wasting your time and resources messing with ural drivers. the supplies we provide are nothing compared to what a lakota can shit out, and the ural itself costs more to destroy than it does to buy. If you want to fuck with logi you are better off building cheeky AA fobs.
a hotfix to randomize team HQ locations each round needs to happen ASAP
>Join blue team
I had some really good and close games tonight. Lots of tanks, arty, moving apc’s and all teams contesting HZ. Won one as red, one as blue and lost one as blue to red.
>>581956623This is fuddlore. 5.55x45 wounds much better than 7.62x39. The only advantage of x39 is barrier blindness, which >>581957602 is correct about. Armor penetration is a wash - non AP 5.56 like M193 can be more penetrative than real AP at point blank due to sanic fast velocity, but outside of edge cases like that both calibers have ammunition at any given AP performance.
>His fobs aren't mortar proof
