Visual Novel General #7906This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>581913208
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>>581977451Be nice to your fellow prisoners
kek if this one sticks trannager might actually kill ximself
>>581977546GLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG
Boku no Hitori Sensou - My One-Man WarContinued from >>581915208
we good now?
>>581977572apotheos will kill ximself*manager isn't the early thread spammer
>>581977647
>>581977546GLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
>two saba threads in a row instead of being a polite human being and giving space to other VNsnot denying the spammer troon allegations
>>581977451We love the 'Sabas here.
>>581977903mald lol
>>581977903uh oh, earlyspammer meltdown
>In a dying industry considered a expired corpse of a bygone era (eroge)>A new title releases>Not a sequel, no established big name megastudio behind it, no mass marketing, no hololive vtuber shill deal, no shared universe, absolute brand spanking new IP>It's sold out across the nation in record time>To the point it made national news on the telly of all things>Developer even made emergency announcement that they will restock copies asap>A flame of hope ignites in the hearts of bishojoge otakus across the worldThe Last Hope of Eroge."Maybe with this... We've bought another five years of time..." - /vn/ anon
>>581977771HFK>>581977771HF CUTE
O-okay... I thought I was being pretty smooth. :/
The good thing with AGPcord is that at least they'll 41% soon like every one of them does
>>581977876
Is someone gonna go on IRC and report this fag janny for leaving up an early saba thread for 8 hours while instantly deleting the next one?
I don't visit here often, only when I finish a VN and want to blog about it, could someone elaborate on the MUMBAImasa meme to meWhat's the relation between an indian city and muramasa? This is a serious question, please answer truthfully before memeing
>>581978173>it's seething
>>581978173>MUMBAI meltyGODnitor broke you
>>581978051Download on Android
>>581977903I mean you any of you guys coud've made a thread before the saba spammers did.
>>581978105>>581978173This is unseemly. Have some dignity and composure.
>>581978181unfunny spammers shitting up the thread
MUMBAInnad
>>581977903Our last thread was >>579986249
>>581978181see >>581977546
>>581978282He tried twice and both got deleted.
>>581978181Months ago Trannager posted on /bant/, but he didn't realize he was on /bant/, and so we all saw his India flag. The rest is history
>>581978181It's been discovered a large amount of our muramasa posters were indian so we started calling it MUMBAImasa
>>581977451Ema is legitimately one of the sexiest characters I've seen in years
>original version of the game, +18>newer release with updated visuals, voice acting, more content, etc, all ageswhich way are you going, western man?
>>581978316>it's from mumbai
>>581978463You may be a pdf file.
>>581978516The new version with the 18+ content ported in with help from Codex, obviously.
One of the sexiest, indeed.
>>581978516Newer version is just strictly better
it's up
>>581978421I dont know what that picture means>>581978454Is that just the name of some namefag?
>>581978463You may be a based.
>>581978051Where's Totsutaba excellence award?
>>581978813you should just ignore any post that brings up fake thread personalities since it's all samefag shitposting
>>581978801nanAIro reincarnation
>>581978801Now that's pretty cool. Is it possible to have a list of literally every single MTL though?
>>581978960That samefag's name? Trannager (from Mumbai, ergo MUMBAImasa).
>>581977903You can do the nuclear option and put spoilers on the OP instead like last thread.
Wife
>>581979014yes, i'm doing the page now, with a sortable table
>>581978463She's incredibly seductive.>>581978582You may be gay.
>>581978516Tsukire is objectively better than the OG so obviously the new one
zanmatAIsei demonbane
>>581979147HFK.
>>581979036i'm talking about (You) but anyways back to filtering this garbage since that guy is probably lying about needing an explanation
>>581978181Kageakijeet
Aschenputtel comes out tomorrow, bros. I feel like I've been waiting for weeks.
>>581978454>>581978459You learn something new everyday huh
>>581979185only midwit slop eaters say that
>>581979185Ciel's route is dogshit so it's worse.
tsujidou-san no jun'AI road
>>581979303Cope>>581979316New route is much better
Why the fuck aren't you playing her game yet
>>581978960Trannager is real thoHe's the one who spams that scat demon and low effort edits, and he samefags a lot
>>581979376maybe if you're a gachafag slopeater
HOLY FUCKING KINO
>>581979409Waiting for the translation
>>581979409I already read it.
gyakuten sAIban
>>581979443But enough about yourself
>>581979470can you fuck her?
KINOmasa
>>581978181Our resident muramasa spammer is from Mumbai.The rest is history.
>>581979409I don't like shonenslop. I don't like magic battle scenes in anime, let alone in text format. I think JJK and DBS have done untold damage to the Western otaku community.
>>581979728ShounenKINOjj* is garbage doe
>>581978438GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG.com
>>581979801JJKINO*
>>581979728You want romcom haremslop instead
Tokeijikake no Ley Line -Tasogaredoki no KyoukAIsen-
>>581979728Die moefaggot.
>>581979409I read the MTL and it was really good. Are the other Crystalia VNs worth reading?
>>581979942>>581979556>>581979373>>581979202bro how bored are you
Where's the oppai?
Fate/Stay Night, the Best Visual nOvel in The World.
>>581980070THIS THIS THISSO MUCH THIS
IDBLTThis is the choice of Steins;Gate.
>>581972546simply ask GPT to do a general character voice writeup on the game and then use that as the basis to judge if the translation departed
>>581980007mAItetsu
>>581980045The Oppai is here!
>>581980070Meant to say steins;KINO
>>581980184Amakano foxe reference
>>581980271
KINOnance
>>581980001Nah, totsureba was a one off freak production. Their other titles are pretty generic. But totsureba tho, it's not called the Final Hope of bishojoge for a reason.
KAMIGEsona 5 Royal
>>581980276>KINOmasaIDBLT
KAMI SHEEP TOWN
>>581979498>EOPiggyEhhhhh~? We have subhumans around here?
the bridge on dimension traverse is really good
NEGROmasa
>>581980187>simply ask GPT to do a general character voice writeup on the game and then use that as the basis to judge if the translation departedthere are a bunch of problems with this:>1. codex limits the context to 270k tokensaka it won't remember any prose detail when it reaches the end, just the plot beats. to avoid this, it would need to assign scores line by line while it checks it, but since it doesn't know how that voice should be beforehand, it doesn't help much. another solution could be making 2 passes, 1 to determine how each voice should be, and then simply re-check everything linearly, but it would it more tokens. i might try this with kurai heya tho>2. this shit is way too non-deterministic for this. even the accuracy errors thing can vary a lot based on how nitpicky it decides to be, so unless there is a very specific methodology for this, i wouldn't bother
togAInu no chi
>>581980426Their project katana games were better than totsuraba. It only looks good cause the production value was better.
>>581980649dimenshun rabasu*pronounce it correctly EOPiggy.
>>581978454Post the link gaynigger
>>581980808totino rabasu*
We should have heeded Karenschizo’s warnings
sAIonara wo oshiete
>>581980808I'm talking about the OP track you retard
>>581980656>NEGROmasaIDBLTMUMBAImasa
Dimension Contortion Lovers
>>581980758Production values matter retard. Why the fuck do you think no one gave a fuck about OG uminegro and higurashit until they got remastered.It's called VISUAL novel fuckturd. You can't just cope and go>But the writing is kami!!!Might as well go read an actual kami like Murakami in that case.
>>581978801actually how would it rate some MTL slop by shit models? Curious>>581980658? The voice writeup on how character speaks doesn't require the whole VN - 30-60 lines by a character is plenty, all it has to do is pull by name, make a 1-3 sentence writeup and go.>non-deterministicIt should flag cases where it doesn't fit the character or the translation overdoes it by turning into caricaturetoss me kurai heiya script and I can try since I dont really use work for much
umiNEGRO
>>581979204>>581979014it's up https://mtlwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/All_MTL_Releases
>>581981118>actually how would it rate some MTL slop by shit models?The rating is a mostly objective look at accuracy. So MTL slop by shit models, if inaccurate, would be rated poorly.
>>581981076>But the writing is kami!!!nta (he's wrong) but yes I can
>>581980360
>>581981053She's a normal sister with a normal torso
nukige mitAI na shima ni sunderu
>>581981131>umiNEGROThis and KINOmasa
>>581980758I've read most of them and I wouldn't go that far. The Project KATANA games had great common routes, but their individual character routes tended to not be as good. The best game in the series (Yureaka) had detached H-content in the common route and largely vestigial character routes where basically nothing happened. Totsuraba is definitely a better overall game than the Project KATANA series.
>>581980932Dimension Traverse is the name of totsureba's op.double retard
>>581981145It's un-objective but it may be ideal to add a column marking the model used for each translation so they aren't considered equal. "Unknown" if the patch releaser didn't clarify. Maybe just put "slop" for any game from 2024 or earlier.
>umiNEGRONo one says this. Umineko is aryan
>>581979290You have been waiting for weeksI wanna see more Alisa ballet fanart
maggot bAIts
>>581981217Yeah, in theory. But in practrice it wasn't done yet so fuck knows
>>581981416You forgot>Needing a shared universe setup aka multiple games to hook the player>Meanwhile totsureba dunks on all that in 20 hours or less as a standalone title
>>581981453You just said it, you are aryanjeet
The thing is this general is so unhinged that it's impossible to even know whether these>>581980914>>581981350>>581981523are real posts or bot posts. Both are possible
Good evenin /vn/ hope alls wel
>>581981453This. Umineko is for White gods.Mumbaimasa is for Mumbai
>>581981701irotoridori no sekAI
>>581981118>The voice writeup on how character speaks doesn't require the whole VN - 30-60 lines by a character is plenty, all it has to do is pull by name, make a 1-3 sentence writeup and go.this would work on moeshit/shounenslop, but it's not good enough for anything with nuance characters that aren't cardboard cutouts>It should flag cases where it doesn't fit the character or the translation overdoes it by turning into caricatureno, i mean that each run it could decided that the character voice should be different, based purely on randomness, and while the jp/en mistakes also has this problem, there's way less room for nitpickiness than with characters voices, especially if the initial sample is taken randomly and is 30 lines onlythis is the tl with most translation errors already fixed (the one i used when reading it), but the tone is the same of the original TL: https://pixeldrain com/u/bknNRp5A>>581981445i can either add the whole "notes" section but it will ruin the aesthetic, or the model field, but it definitely won't be me the one who fills it randomly. anyway, they are in release order so the higher it is the more like it's to be good
How are we feeling, JOPbros? Anki reps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M9f6gqcbDwMan they really are just slowly drip feeding the soundtrack huh
>>581981701Bots can't post on 4chan. VPNs are blocked. They have to solve captchas.
>>581982097I'm feeling good. I don't use flashcards.
>>581982084>but it definitely won't be me the one who fills it randomly.If you add the model field I am autistic enough to manually check for the most recent onesand add "slop" to 2024 and before
スパイおっぱい
>>581982161fAIrytale requiem
>>581982161Holy 2026 newfag.
>>581982084>but it definitely won't be me the one who fills it randomlyignore randomly, i mean i'm not filling that shit manually>>581982209i'll put a disclaimer about this at the top. also i think i can run every single NOTE field through chatgpt and ask it to extract the model only, but not now
>>581982161>Bots can't post on 4chan. >he doesn't known>VPNs are blocked. >he doesn't known V2>They have to solve captchas.>he doesn't know V3
>>581981869KINOmasa broke you, Coquimba
>>581981869>Mumbaimasa is for MumbaiMHBST
>>581981453>Transgender Heroine
>>581982512>NTRKINOmasaThis.
>>581981869>Obsessed with Gods and aryan heritageYOUAREJEET
>>581981869IDBLT
>>581982679
Kagami teasing 2 new announcements.
>>581981145This is great. Thank you
>>581982737This man would crush Trannager with one hand
>>581982910Who cares? Anyone can just MTL those games and it'd be faster and more accurate.
>>581982084AIshiteru
>>581982928np, i'm up for further suggestion.
>>581982963GLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG
>>581982910twintastic is probably https://vndb.org/v61214
>>581982084Ideally it should be sortable by model like some table. You've GPT you can fucking code a decent site UI thing for sure bro
>>581982910Incestkino
>>581982325OK. Model info is really important so it would be good for the wiki to have it at some point. In 2027 people will want to know if something is new cutting edge or Sol.
>>581983220ren'AI x royale
>>581982128That sounds kino.Recommendation?
>>581981774I'm fine thank you, how're u?
>I used to be of the opinion that music, art, voice acting, presentation and etc. (aka production values) could only carry a novel so far. After all, visual novels are still at the heart of it, novels, and the story is the 'meat' of the content. That notion was completely shattered after I finished Dimension Totsu Lovers. This game is sheer testament to how high music and art can elevate a given story or more than compensate for it's shortcomings in DTL's case.From VNDB.
>>581983734All good>>581982963I didnt know Mumbai had such French-lookin restaurants
>>581983883Wait but that VN looks like shit. That doesn't make sense
>>581981076Of course they matter, but they can only carry shit writing so far dipshit e.g. Nekopara>>581981416The heroine routes were shit in totsuraba wdym? The MC was also much worse. At least in the project katana games the main girls route ended up being good cause she gets the most effort put into it at the expense of the other heroines. >Yureaka is the bestThat's debatable, I've heard more people say Mekuiro was the best of the series. And the detached H-scenes/heroine routes in yureaka was certainly a decision that crystalia thankfully will never do again.
>>581983929That's good to hear, have a nice day.
>>581983883Fine nigga I will read Totsuraba.
>>581983158>>581983220the problem isn't the code, it's the data, lil bro. guess you don't have a degree in cs so you have no idea how hard it is to do what you are asking for with the data i have. the existting information isn't going anywhere btw, since it's still saved on vndb, but consider that>most of those don't disclaim the model used so 90% will be blank>some use multiple/different models/harnesses/thinking budgets/etc combination>even if i take the few with a single disclosed model, i would still need to decide how they are ranked between each others, otherwise the sorting would be meaningless>even if i go through all the llm release histories, i still wouldn't be able to meaningfull sort by that because there are no translation-specific leaderboards so it would be very approximate>and all this shit is completely a waste of time since pre-2025 mtl are all shit anywayi'd rather wait until sol is ultra-fast and free, and then run the qc and assign an accuracy score to each release semi-automatically (that's the plan for 2027)tl;dr: 2026 = good, 2025 = good if edited, 2024 = fan-tl level if edited
>>581984129Thanks
>>581983883the music isn't impressing me so far. i understand what it's going for, but it feels very amateurish so far
>>581983883>rates it a 7So mid?
>>581983883Post some good tracks if you want to convince me.They better be Umineko / Subahibi / F/SN tier.
>>581978137
>>581984312good*medicore is a 5
>>581984149dAIbanchou
>>581984312I thought a 4 would be mid.
>>581984336>Subahibilow bar
>>581977571
Chapter 2 of the Coquimba chronicles dropped. Stay tuned for Chapter 3: "A hero's test"
>>581984336Which SH OST tracks are good, the OP?
I'm getting second hand embarrassment.
>>581984614LFG
>>581984575Wife
>>581984686All of them.
>>581984691coquimba's papi...
>>581984336A large part of the reason why the tracks are good is cause of the context of the scene. They all work hand in hand to create that cinema moment, though personally I think If*else is the best track of the game, though dimension traverse and unification are pretty up there.
post racemixing white women
>>581984767lmfao